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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,436 --> 00:00:03,741 [ominous music] 2 00:00:03,841 --> 00:00:08,551 ♪ 3 00:00:08,617 --> 00:00:09,920 - How y'all doing today? 4 00:00:09,987 --> 00:00:11,557 Do you guys have any cameras? 5 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,162 I was curious if we could take a look-see. 6 00:00:14,262 --> 00:00:15,999 - In today's world, cameras are everywhere. 7 00:00:16,099 --> 00:00:17,468 [camera beeps] 8 00:00:17,536 --> 00:00:19,305 And with that, a detective's chance 9 00:00:19,405 --> 00:00:21,276 of catching a crime in action is better than ever. 10 00:00:21,376 --> 00:00:22,679 - He's got a crowbar. 11 00:00:22,779 --> 00:00:26,153 - Tonight, on "The First 48: Critical Minutes"... 12 00:00:26,219 --> 00:00:28,157 - There he goes. - Oh, shot in the head. 13 00:00:28,257 --> 00:00:29,726 - Video hides nothing. 14 00:00:30,762 --> 00:00:32,264 - Then... 15 00:00:32,331 --> 00:00:34,603 - Boom. He just walks off. 16 00:00:34,703 --> 00:00:37,341 - Multiple cameras help crack open a case. 17 00:00:40,649 --> 00:00:41,850 [dramatic music] 18 00:00:41,917 --> 00:00:43,822 - And... - Oh, my gosh. 19 00:00:43,888 --> 00:00:45,157 [camera shutter clicking] 20 00:00:45,257 --> 00:00:46,994 - Detectives hunt for a hit-and-run driver... 21 00:00:47,061 --> 00:00:48,765 - He hit another homeless person. 22 00:00:48,865 --> 00:00:50,267 - Before he kills again. 23 00:00:50,333 --> 00:00:52,505 - This guy's not gonna stop until we stop him. 24 00:00:52,605 --> 00:00:55,545 [dramatic music] 25 00:00:55,645 --> 00:01:02,558 ♪ 26 00:01:08,102 --> 00:01:10,040 [sirens wailing] 27 00:01:10,106 --> 00:01:13,347 ♪ 28 00:01:13,447 --> 00:01:14,950 - In a homicide investigation, 29 00:01:15,017 --> 00:01:18,624 surveillance footage is like an extra set of eyes and ears, 30 00:01:18,724 --> 00:01:21,664 an unbiased witness that can be rewound, 31 00:01:21,730 --> 00:01:23,801 replayed, and zoomed in on. 32 00:01:23,901 --> 00:01:26,807 [ominous music] 33 00:01:26,873 --> 00:01:28,511 ♪ 34 00:01:28,611 --> 00:01:31,517 - Headed up to the northeast of Tulsa out by the airport. 35 00:01:31,617 --> 00:01:34,054 It's--there's a convenience store. 36 00:01:34,121 --> 00:01:36,827 The worker there, employee of the store, 37 00:01:36,894 --> 00:01:39,098 has been shot 38 00:01:39,198 --> 00:01:41,435 and has died there at the scene. 39 00:01:41,536 --> 00:01:48,517 ♪ 40 00:01:53,060 --> 00:01:54,596 [doorbell chimes] 41 00:01:54,696 --> 00:02:01,710 ♪ 42 00:02:02,845 --> 00:02:05,451 - Is he back here? - Yeah. 43 00:02:05,518 --> 00:02:12,497 ♪ 44 00:02:15,838 --> 00:02:17,007 - Well. 45 00:02:17,107 --> 00:02:20,380 ♪ 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,453 Who's--do we know who our victim is, what his name is? 47 00:02:23,521 --> 00:02:24,590 - Yeah. 48 00:02:24,656 --> 00:02:27,328 ♪ 49 00:02:27,394 --> 00:02:29,966 narrator: 51-year-old Aftab Ahmed Khan 50 00:02:30,033 --> 00:02:32,572 was originally from Pakistan. 51 00:02:32,673 --> 00:02:34,409 He worked at the convenience store 52 00:02:34,475 --> 00:02:36,613 to support his family and send money back home. 53 00:02:36,713 --> 00:02:37,983 [solemn music] 54 00:02:38,083 --> 00:02:41,790 He is survived by his live-in girlfriend of nearly 20 years 55 00:02:41,890 --> 00:02:43,895 and three children. 56 00:02:43,961 --> 00:02:48,937 ♪ 57 00:02:49,037 --> 00:02:52,377 - He's got two bullet holes in the top left shoulder. 58 00:02:52,444 --> 00:02:55,684 narrator: Aftab was shot three times, 59 00:02:55,751 --> 00:02:59,893 twice below the neck and once in the forehead. 60 00:02:59,959 --> 00:03:02,131 ♪ 61 00:03:02,197 --> 00:03:03,935 - Have you seen that? 62 00:03:04,035 --> 00:03:05,304 narrator: On the counter... 63 00:03:05,370 --> 00:03:06,573 [camera shutter clicking] 64 00:03:06,673 --> 00:03:09,445 - There's a bullet shot in the register. 65 00:03:09,513 --> 00:03:10,682 [camera shutter clicks] 66 00:03:10,748 --> 00:03:12,653 narrator: A .40-caliber projectile. 67 00:03:12,719 --> 00:03:14,188 ♪ 68 00:03:14,288 --> 00:03:16,860 - That's stinking crazy. 69 00:03:16,927 --> 00:03:18,163 - And there's a gun below him, 70 00:03:18,229 --> 00:03:19,833 like he was going for a gun or something. 71 00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:22,038 ♪ 72 00:03:22,138 --> 00:03:23,373 [camera shutter clicks] 73 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:24,776 narrator: They find a 9-millimeter handgun 74 00:03:24,876 --> 00:03:27,248 on the floor. 75 00:03:27,314 --> 00:03:29,619 - Most likely the victim's. 76 00:03:29,686 --> 00:03:32,659 [ominous music] 77 00:03:32,725 --> 00:03:35,831 ♪ 78 00:03:35,931 --> 00:03:38,270 [indistinct radio chatter] 79 00:03:38,336 --> 00:03:40,040 narrator: Two hours in... 80 00:03:40,106 --> 00:03:41,777 - There was a blue... 81 00:03:43,614 --> 00:03:46,018 narrator: Word come in about a robbery at a bakery 82 00:03:46,085 --> 00:03:48,991 just ten miles up the road. 83 00:03:49,091 --> 00:03:50,427 - We need to finish up here, 84 00:03:50,494 --> 00:03:52,599 get some guys broke away so we can go out 85 00:03:52,666 --> 00:03:54,101 and start looking for that vehicle. 86 00:03:54,201 --> 00:03:55,070 - OK. 87 00:03:55,137 --> 00:03:57,207 [pulsing dramatic music] 88 00:03:57,307 --> 00:04:00,214 - Nate Schilling? 89 00:04:00,281 --> 00:04:02,953 Any luck? - Yes. 90 00:04:03,019 --> 00:04:07,094 ♪ 91 00:04:07,194 --> 00:04:09,699 See if we can pull up the actual murder. 92 00:04:09,766 --> 00:04:13,507 See if we can get a good view of our suspects. 93 00:04:13,607 --> 00:04:16,412 Find out who's doing what. 94 00:04:19,385 --> 00:04:21,122 - There it is, right there. - Yeah. 95 00:04:21,222 --> 00:04:23,260 [ominous music] 96 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,030 - Coming right up to the counter. 97 00:04:25,130 --> 00:04:29,939 ♪ 98 00:04:30,006 --> 00:04:32,879 Glasses, gun. 99 00:04:32,979 --> 00:04:35,518 ♪ 100 00:04:35,618 --> 00:04:37,622 - Gloves on both hands. 101 00:04:37,722 --> 00:04:40,393 ♪ 102 00:04:40,493 --> 00:04:43,634 - Here's where the witness comes in. 103 00:04:43,734 --> 00:04:50,748 ♪ 104 00:04:54,288 --> 00:04:56,025 - Oh, there he goes. 105 00:04:56,091 --> 00:05:01,368 ♪ 106 00:05:01,435 --> 00:05:03,039 - The guy getting his gun? - Yeah. 107 00:05:03,139 --> 00:05:04,241 ♪ 108 00:05:04,308 --> 00:05:05,411 [dramatic music] 109 00:05:05,512 --> 00:05:08,150 - Oh, shot in the head. - One in the head. 110 00:05:08,216 --> 00:05:13,627 ♪ 111 00:05:13,727 --> 00:05:14,930 Two. 112 00:05:15,030 --> 00:05:17,535 Three. Well. 113 00:05:17,635 --> 00:05:18,770 ♪ 114 00:05:20,107 --> 00:05:24,616 ♪ 115 00:05:24,716 --> 00:05:26,654 - He shoots the register to try to open it. 116 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,325 ♪ 117 00:05:29,391 --> 00:05:30,929 - He got nothing. - Coward. 118 00:05:30,995 --> 00:05:34,503 ♪ 119 00:05:34,603 --> 00:05:36,005 narrator: Then... 120 00:05:39,178 --> 00:05:46,358 ♪ 121 00:05:49,465 --> 00:05:52,606 - Two robberies, same type of vehicle. 122 00:05:52,672 --> 00:05:54,375 - I'll let patrol know that 123 00:05:54,475 --> 00:05:56,947 that vehicle may be connected to our murder. 124 00:05:57,047 --> 00:05:59,986 [ominous music] 125 00:06:00,086 --> 00:06:02,124 ♪ 126 00:06:02,224 --> 00:06:05,531 [indistinct radio chatter] 127 00:06:09,038 --> 00:06:10,106 [dramatic music] 128 00:06:10,206 --> 00:06:11,510 narrator: Patrol is in pursuit 129 00:06:11,610 --> 00:06:13,714 of the possible suspect vehicle. 130 00:06:13,814 --> 00:06:15,149 ♪ 131 00:06:16,954 --> 00:06:22,331 ♪ 132 00:06:22,397 --> 00:06:23,968 - We need to figure out who these two guys are 133 00:06:24,068 --> 00:06:25,437 that are with the shooter. 134 00:06:25,504 --> 00:06:28,142 I'm gonna go over to the bakery that they held up. 135 00:06:28,242 --> 00:06:29,846 Hopefully they've got some video. 136 00:06:29,913 --> 00:06:32,986 - Okeydoke. I am headed back to the office. 137 00:06:33,086 --> 00:06:33,988 - Let's bolt. 138 00:06:34,088 --> 00:06:35,023 [ominous music] 139 00:06:35,123 --> 00:06:36,225 [car door clicks shut] 140 00:06:36,292 --> 00:06:37,461 - Breaking news: 141 00:06:37,529 --> 00:06:39,666 the Tulsa police now in a standoff 142 00:06:39,766 --> 00:06:42,738 with suspects wanted for robbery and possibly a murder. 143 00:06:42,805 --> 00:06:45,611 - Police believe the suspects are in an attic right now 144 00:06:45,678 --> 00:06:47,213 at the Meadows Apartments in East Tulsa. 145 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:48,517 [dramatic music] 146 00:06:48,584 --> 00:06:50,253 narrator: While the standoff continues... 147 00:06:50,353 --> 00:06:51,957 - Here. You wanna see the video? 148 00:06:52,023 --> 00:06:53,159 - Yes, sir. 149 00:06:53,260 --> 00:06:54,729 narrator: Detective Jason White 150 00:06:54,796 --> 00:06:56,533 returns with surveillance video 151 00:06:56,633 --> 00:06:58,738 from the robbery at the bakery. 152 00:06:58,804 --> 00:07:03,714 ♪ 153 00:07:03,814 --> 00:07:05,284 - Here they come in, right here. 154 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:06,418 [indistinct radio chatter] 155 00:07:06,485 --> 00:07:08,557 - He's got a gun. 156 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:16,673 ♪ 157 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:18,644 - Got those khaki shorts. 158 00:07:18,744 --> 00:07:20,280 ♪ 159 00:07:20,380 --> 00:07:22,752 - The old cargo britches? - Yeah. 160 00:07:22,818 --> 00:07:25,525 ♪ 161 00:07:25,591 --> 00:07:27,896 Got his gloves on still. 162 00:07:27,962 --> 00:07:30,868 ♪ 163 00:07:30,969 --> 00:07:32,805 - Takes a good amount of cash there. 164 00:07:32,905 --> 00:07:36,713 ♪ 165 00:07:36,780 --> 00:07:38,584 - Check out the second suspect. 166 00:07:38,684 --> 00:07:41,790 [ominous music] 167 00:07:41,856 --> 00:07:43,026 ♪ 168 00:07:43,092 --> 00:07:44,462 - He's got a crowbar. 169 00:07:44,529 --> 00:07:51,442 ♪ 170 00:07:51,510 --> 00:07:54,749 - I think it's the big guy, Jose. 171 00:07:54,850 --> 00:07:57,789 - He's a lot bigger than the other. 172 00:07:57,855 --> 00:08:04,836 ♪ 173 00:08:20,835 --> 00:08:22,204 - [bleep]. 174 00:08:22,270 --> 00:08:28,349 ♪ 175 00:08:28,449 --> 00:08:29,720 [dramatic music] 176 00:08:29,786 --> 00:08:31,189 - Just a minute ago, 177 00:08:31,289 --> 00:08:33,392 police started firing pepper balls into the attic. 178 00:08:33,492 --> 00:08:34,863 We could actually hear it. 179 00:08:34,930 --> 00:08:36,398 This could end in two minutes. 180 00:08:36,498 --> 00:08:38,369 This could end in 20 hours. 181 00:08:38,469 --> 00:08:41,376 [dramatic music] 182 00:08:41,442 --> 00:08:48,657 ♪ 183 00:08:57,508 --> 00:08:59,512 - The little fella was identified 184 00:08:59,612 --> 00:09:01,750 as Bayle Snell. 185 00:09:01,816 --> 00:09:04,655 The other individual 186 00:09:04,722 --> 00:09:06,994 was Jose Mata. 187 00:09:07,060 --> 00:09:14,040 ♪ 188 00:09:15,711 --> 00:09:17,715 narrator: 19-year-old Jose Mata 189 00:09:17,815 --> 00:09:21,455 has a conviction for larceny. 190 00:09:21,556 --> 00:09:24,028 - Gonna talk to Jose Mata. 191 00:09:24,095 --> 00:09:27,467 We'll see if he wants to save his butt 192 00:09:27,568 --> 00:09:29,004 and go from there. 193 00:09:29,104 --> 00:09:31,943 [ominous music] 194 00:09:32,845 --> 00:09:35,017 Jose. 195 00:09:35,083 --> 00:09:36,786 [grunts] 196 00:09:40,460 --> 00:09:43,534 - OK. Listen to me and do me a favor. 197 00:09:43,601 --> 00:09:44,836 Answer with me a "Yes, I understand" 198 00:09:44,903 --> 00:09:46,439 or "No, I don't understand." 199 00:09:46,540 --> 00:09:47,608 OK? 200 00:09:47,708 --> 00:09:48,610 You have the right to remain silent. 201 00:09:48,711 --> 00:09:49,979 You do not have... 202 00:09:50,046 --> 00:09:52,719 narrator: Brown reads Jose his Miranda Rights. 203 00:09:52,786 --> 00:09:55,223 - You wanna talk to me? 204 00:09:56,726 --> 00:10:00,099 - Well why you're down here with handcuffs on. 205 00:10:02,304 --> 00:10:05,310 [inaudible speech] 206 00:10:05,376 --> 00:10:10,419 ♪ 207 00:10:10,486 --> 00:10:13,326 - OK. Jose, here's the deal. 208 00:10:13,392 --> 00:10:14,495 ♪ 209 00:10:14,596 --> 00:10:16,132 There was an incident that happened tonight... 210 00:10:16,199 --> 00:10:17,434 - Mm-hmm. 211 00:10:17,535 --> 00:10:21,209 - Where a guy shoots and kills a convenience store clerk. 212 00:10:21,275 --> 00:10:22,344 ♪ 213 00:10:22,444 --> 00:10:23,514 OK? 214 00:10:23,614 --> 00:10:25,651 And the guy's face is on video. 215 00:10:25,752 --> 00:10:28,089 I know it's not you. 216 00:10:28,155 --> 00:10:29,491 ♪ 217 00:10:29,592 --> 00:10:30,728 OK? 218 00:10:30,794 --> 00:10:32,766 But I also know this: 219 00:10:32,866 --> 00:10:35,470 the story you just said 220 00:10:35,571 --> 00:10:37,742 is a bunch of bull[bleep] and you know it. 221 00:10:37,808 --> 00:10:41,014 [dramatic music building] 222 00:10:45,423 --> 00:10:46,626 ♪ 223 00:10:46,626 --> 00:10:48,630 - Obviously a murder captured on video 224 00:10:48,664 --> 00:10:50,399 is gonna show you who the shooter is. 225 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:53,406 But it's also gonna show you who their accomplices are. 226 00:10:53,507 --> 00:10:54,775 And so when you're looking 227 00:10:54,842 --> 00:10:57,280 at trying to get information from that person, 228 00:10:57,347 --> 00:10:58,850 you can look at 'em, and you can look 'em in the eye, 229 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:00,521 and you can say, "Look, hey. I know you didn't do this." 230 00:11:00,621 --> 00:11:03,560 [dramatic music] 231 00:11:03,660 --> 00:11:06,165 ♪ 232 00:11:06,265 --> 00:11:07,868 - Jose. 233 00:11:07,935 --> 00:11:10,541 All I want from you is the truth. 234 00:11:10,641 --> 00:11:15,116 ♪ 235 00:11:15,183 --> 00:11:16,853 - Well... 236 00:11:20,794 --> 00:11:22,397 - Who's he? 237 00:11:24,536 --> 00:11:26,071 ♪ 238 00:11:26,138 --> 00:11:27,742 narrator: Jose claims he was hanging out 239 00:11:27,808 --> 00:11:29,077 at Bayle's apartment 240 00:11:29,144 --> 00:11:30,748 when Cesar asked him for a ride 241 00:11:30,814 --> 00:11:33,219 to the convenience store. 242 00:11:33,319 --> 00:11:36,258 - Yeah, at first, I was like, "I'm just gonna park in front." 243 00:11:36,358 --> 00:11:39,464 And then he was like, "No, no, no, what are you doing?" 244 00:11:39,566 --> 00:11:41,101 narrator: He says Cesar insisted 245 00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:44,341 they park in the back of the store. 246 00:11:48,182 --> 00:11:49,384 narrator: After waiting a few minutes 247 00:11:49,451 --> 00:11:51,957 for Cesar to return... 248 00:11:52,023 --> 00:11:54,929 ♪ 249 00:12:06,318 --> 00:12:13,365 ♪ 250 00:12:15,638 --> 00:12:18,409 - He gets back in the car. And then what? 251 00:12:20,748 --> 00:12:22,317 narrator: He claims they fled 252 00:12:22,384 --> 00:12:25,624 and drove directly to the apartment complex. 253 00:12:25,724 --> 00:12:27,160 - You go halfway. 254 00:12:27,260 --> 00:12:29,097 You're just stuck out there in the middle. 255 00:12:29,164 --> 00:12:30,466 You gotta tell the whole truth... 256 00:12:30,534 --> 00:12:32,070 - Yeah. - Or none of it. 257 00:12:32,137 --> 00:12:34,174 - Yeah. 258 00:12:34,275 --> 00:12:37,582 - You guys go on and rob another place. 259 00:12:37,648 --> 00:12:39,117 Am I right? 260 00:12:39,217 --> 00:12:41,254 [tense music] 261 00:12:43,426 --> 00:12:44,294 ♪ 262 00:12:44,361 --> 00:12:46,432 - Whose idea was it for that one? 263 00:12:46,498 --> 00:12:49,070 ♪ 264 00:12:50,340 --> 00:12:57,387 ♪ 265 00:13:01,930 --> 00:13:03,700 - And I'll agree with you. 266 00:13:03,767 --> 00:13:06,606 But instead of, you know, being like 267 00:13:06,673 --> 00:13:08,008 a cat in a freaking sandbox, 268 00:13:08,075 --> 00:13:10,146 just trying to bury it, you're putting it out there, 269 00:13:10,213 --> 00:13:11,983 and saying, "Man, this is what happened. 270 00:13:12,050 --> 00:13:13,787 I screwed up. I wanna fix it." 271 00:13:13,853 --> 00:13:15,323 ♪ 272 00:13:15,389 --> 00:13:17,561 And this is how you go about fixing it. 273 00:13:17,661 --> 00:13:21,803 ♪ 274 00:13:21,903 --> 00:13:25,142 We'll make a run at Cesar Espinoza. 275 00:13:25,209 --> 00:13:28,750 See what he can tell us to confirm what we already know. 276 00:13:28,817 --> 00:13:31,723 [ominous music] 277 00:13:31,789 --> 00:13:32,858 ♪ 278 00:13:32,925 --> 00:13:34,562 Mr. Espinoza. 279 00:13:34,662 --> 00:13:36,399 ♪ 280 00:13:36,465 --> 00:13:38,336 Why are you down here, sir? 281 00:13:38,402 --> 00:13:39,605 ♪ 282 00:13:51,362 --> 00:13:52,463 [sighs] 283 00:13:55,103 --> 00:13:56,740 - Where'd you hide? 284 00:13:56,807 --> 00:13:58,075 - [scoffs] 285 00:13:59,144 --> 00:14:05,924 ♪ 286 00:14:11,335 --> 00:14:12,871 [dramatic music] 287 00:14:14,408 --> 00:14:18,115 - Well, let me tell you. There is video. 288 00:14:18,182 --> 00:14:20,052 Yeah. And you're on it. 289 00:14:50,380 --> 00:14:51,716 [dramatic music] 290 00:14:51,783 --> 00:14:53,286 - Sounds like a plan. 291 00:14:54,288 --> 00:14:56,627 - If you decide you do wanna tell the truth and confess, 292 00:14:56,727 --> 00:14:58,295 we have to listen to you. 293 00:14:59,632 --> 00:15:00,568 - Here we go. 294 00:15:00,634 --> 00:15:02,505 ♪ 295 00:15:02,605 --> 00:15:04,007 - [sighs] 296 00:15:05,476 --> 00:15:07,246 - Yes, sir. 297 00:15:07,313 --> 00:15:08,784 - Yeah. You wanna know now? 298 00:15:08,884 --> 00:15:10,520 Murder. 299 00:15:10,620 --> 00:15:12,691 ♪ 300 00:15:12,758 --> 00:15:14,696 - Hang tight for just a second. - All right. Appreciate it. 301 00:15:14,762 --> 00:15:18,168 ♪ 302 00:15:18,268 --> 00:15:21,876 - I didn't like him when I saw the video at the store. 303 00:15:21,943 --> 00:15:23,747 And I really don't like him now. 304 00:15:23,813 --> 00:15:26,384 - I concur. 305 00:15:26,451 --> 00:15:29,391 [dramatic music] 306 00:15:29,457 --> 00:15:36,471 ♪ 307 00:15:42,050 --> 00:15:44,254 - You can just stand right here. 308 00:15:49,532 --> 00:15:52,170 - Dang, gonna be on TV with a bunch of... 309 00:15:52,270 --> 00:15:57,380 ♪ 310 00:15:59,117 --> 00:16:02,224 [dramatic music] 311 00:16:02,290 --> 00:16:03,627 ♪ 312 00:16:03,694 --> 00:16:05,329 - When investigating a case, 313 00:16:05,396 --> 00:16:08,236 we rely on the local community for our tips. 314 00:16:08,302 --> 00:16:10,072 One of the best ways to enlist their help 315 00:16:10,139 --> 00:16:11,710 is by releasing footage or photos 316 00:16:11,810 --> 00:16:13,412 of the suspect to the news media, 317 00:16:13,479 --> 00:16:15,885 as you will see in this next case out of Atlanta. 318 00:16:15,951 --> 00:16:23,232 ♪ 319 00:16:30,580 --> 00:16:33,720 - Looks like it. How sad. 320 00:16:33,787 --> 00:16:35,825 His ID? 321 00:16:35,891 --> 00:16:38,028 - Last name Williams. 322 00:16:38,128 --> 00:16:39,330 [solemn music] 323 00:16:39,397 --> 00:16:41,803 narrator: 23-year-old Mantrzes Williams 324 00:16:41,870 --> 00:16:44,207 was the oldest of four siblings. 325 00:16:44,307 --> 00:16:45,343 ♪ 326 00:16:45,410 --> 00:16:49,184 He leaves behind two young children. 327 00:16:49,250 --> 00:16:51,623 Mantrzes worked at an organic grocery store 328 00:16:51,690 --> 00:16:54,628 and dreamed of one day having his own business. 329 00:16:54,728 --> 00:16:55,964 ♪ 330 00:16:56,031 --> 00:16:58,570 - So as far as cameras, what do we have? 331 00:16:59,906 --> 00:17:01,174 - Out here, OK. 332 00:17:02,511 --> 00:17:03,346 - Excellent. 333 00:17:03,413 --> 00:17:04,782 - They got cameras across the street, 334 00:17:04,882 --> 00:17:06,151 but no contact made. 335 00:17:06,251 --> 00:17:07,955 Probably have to wait till Monday when they open up. 336 00:17:08,022 --> 00:17:10,159 - Hey, man, we got a witness outside. 337 00:17:10,226 --> 00:17:13,366 [ominous music] 338 00:17:13,432 --> 00:17:16,137 ♪ 339 00:17:20,413 --> 00:17:24,689 ♪ 340 00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:27,327 - So the perp's out for, like, ten seconds and comes back in. 341 00:17:27,427 --> 00:17:28,530 And he said the guy unloaded-- 342 00:17:28,597 --> 00:17:31,101 he said maybe three shots, so-- - Wow. 343 00:17:31,167 --> 00:17:32,672 So he just, "Pow, pow, pow," and the dude falls 344 00:17:32,772 --> 00:17:33,573 and then he leaves? 345 00:17:33,740 --> 00:17:36,278 - And then he just casually walks on out. 346 00:17:36,378 --> 00:17:39,351 ♪ 347 00:17:39,451 --> 00:17:41,956 - This is a senseless, brutal, 348 00:17:42,056 --> 00:17:45,463 blunt, old, blatant killing. 349 00:17:45,531 --> 00:17:47,735 Video's gonna play a huge part in this. 350 00:17:47,801 --> 00:17:51,308 Once we get the best shot of him that we can get, 351 00:17:51,375 --> 00:17:52,745 we'll release it to the news media. 352 00:17:52,811 --> 00:17:53,913 We'll make him famous. 353 00:17:53,980 --> 00:17:56,853 [dramatic music] 354 00:17:56,919 --> 00:18:03,399 ♪ 355 00:18:03,466 --> 00:18:07,575 Right now, we're taking a look at the surveillance video 356 00:18:07,675 --> 00:18:09,444 from the Quik Mart. 357 00:18:09,545 --> 00:18:10,413 ♪ 358 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,983 Here's the victim right here. 359 00:18:12,083 --> 00:18:13,385 ♪ 360 00:18:13,485 --> 00:18:15,691 narrator: Minutes before the shooting... 361 00:18:15,791 --> 00:18:17,026 [ominous music] 362 00:18:17,093 --> 00:18:20,500 - This is our outside view of the store. 363 00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:23,740 ♪ 364 00:18:23,807 --> 00:18:25,777 The guy here in the yellow and white jacket 365 00:18:25,877 --> 00:18:29,953 matches the description provided by the witnesses. 366 00:18:30,019 --> 00:18:31,656 ♪ 367 00:18:31,756 --> 00:18:34,595 The victim's just kind of standing there. 368 00:18:34,695 --> 00:18:35,764 ♪ 369 00:18:35,831 --> 00:18:37,868 Suspect approaches him. 370 00:18:37,968 --> 00:18:39,037 ♪ 371 00:18:39,104 --> 00:18:41,007 He's having words with him. 372 00:18:41,107 --> 00:18:42,744 ♪ 373 00:18:42,844 --> 00:18:44,582 He talked [bleep] to him. 374 00:18:44,682 --> 00:18:46,620 [dramatic music] 375 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,024 Leaves. 376 00:18:49,124 --> 00:18:51,896 See his hand in his pocket right there. 377 00:18:51,996 --> 00:18:55,369 ♪ 378 00:18:56,506 --> 00:18:59,579 narrator: The suspect pulls a gun from his pocket. 379 00:18:59,679 --> 00:19:01,348 - Walks in. 380 00:19:01,448 --> 00:19:02,183 ♪ 381 00:19:02,250 --> 00:19:03,920 Victim looks toward him. 382 00:19:03,987 --> 00:19:06,124 Boom. 383 00:19:06,191 --> 00:19:08,864 Suspect just came in and shot him. 384 00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:09,999 ♪ 385 00:19:10,099 --> 00:19:12,070 Three times, like it was nothing. 386 00:19:12,136 --> 00:19:16,378 ♪ 387 00:19:20,553 --> 00:19:22,324 - Video evidence is a great piece of the puzzle 388 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:23,793 in a homicide investigation. 389 00:19:23,793 --> 00:19:26,364 While it can show detectives what a suspect did, 390 00:19:26,364 --> 00:19:28,603 they still need to identify who they are. 391 00:19:28,703 --> 00:19:31,642 [dramatic music] 392 00:19:31,742 --> 00:19:34,815 ♪ 393 00:19:34,882 --> 00:19:36,318 - He just walks off. 394 00:19:36,418 --> 00:19:38,690 Cool, calm, collected. 395 00:19:38,756 --> 00:19:43,031 ♪ 396 00:19:43,131 --> 00:19:45,537 Human life means nothing to him. 397 00:19:45,637 --> 00:19:48,375 ♪ 398 00:19:50,046 --> 00:19:53,553 But yeah, he's definitely skinny, tall. 399 00:19:53,653 --> 00:19:55,223 ♪ 400 00:19:55,323 --> 00:19:59,097 He's got a--distinct clothing. 401 00:19:59,197 --> 00:20:01,101 This is great video. 402 00:20:01,201 --> 00:20:04,140 I mean, as far as for identification purposes, 403 00:20:04,207 --> 00:20:05,778 I mean, it ain't the greatest. 404 00:20:05,844 --> 00:20:09,818 But it shows his carefree attitude towards life. 405 00:20:09,918 --> 00:20:11,221 ♪ 406 00:20:11,321 --> 00:20:13,627 [shutter sound effect plays, keyboard keys clacking] 407 00:20:13,727 --> 00:20:15,396 Right now, I'm just composing an email 408 00:20:15,462 --> 00:20:17,367 to send out department wide. 409 00:20:17,467 --> 00:20:20,372 There's a chance an investigator, officer, 410 00:20:20,472 --> 00:20:22,878 someone may have come in contact with this cat, 411 00:20:22,944 --> 00:20:25,349 kind of recognize him. 412 00:20:25,449 --> 00:20:28,589 [dramatic music] 413 00:20:28,689 --> 00:20:35,637 ♪ 414 00:20:53,372 --> 00:20:55,844 I'm sorry to keep you waiting. 415 00:20:59,250 --> 00:21:01,756 All right, so... 416 00:21:01,822 --> 00:21:04,762 you gave us a call 'cause you were watching the news. 417 00:21:04,862 --> 00:21:06,498 And what'd you see? 418 00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:18,589 - Mm. 419 00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:22,429 narrator: "Bell" is a nickname for Danney Marshall Jr. 420 00:21:27,741 --> 00:21:28,809 - Mm-hmm. 421 00:21:37,761 --> 00:21:38,829 [ominous music] 422 00:21:43,606 --> 00:21:45,008 - Mm-hmm. 423 00:21:53,425 --> 00:21:57,567 - Yeah, 'cause our goal is for Danney to be safe. 424 00:21:57,667 --> 00:21:59,070 I wanna hear his side of the story 425 00:21:59,171 --> 00:22:01,275 'cause there's two sides to every story. 426 00:22:01,341 --> 00:22:03,546 Do you know where he is right now? 427 00:22:03,646 --> 00:22:05,750 ♪ 428 00:22:06,919 --> 00:22:10,827 ♪ 429 00:22:10,927 --> 00:22:11,863 - Let me just see 430 00:22:11,963 --> 00:22:13,967 what his license photo looks like real quick. 431 00:22:14,067 --> 00:22:16,939 [ominous music] 432 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,478 ♪ 433 00:22:19,579 --> 00:22:21,915 narrator: 34-year-old Danney Marshall Junior 434 00:22:21,982 --> 00:22:26,224 has multiple convictions for drug dealing and battery. 435 00:22:26,324 --> 00:22:28,462 - That's enough for an arrest warrant. 436 00:22:28,530 --> 00:22:30,868 We'll have the Fugitive Unit hunting him down. 437 00:22:30,934 --> 00:22:38,148 ♪ 438 00:22:39,017 --> 00:22:41,856 narrator: Three weeks after Mantrzes Williams' murder... 439 00:22:41,956 --> 00:22:44,628 ♪ 440 00:22:44,728 --> 00:22:47,734 - Mr. Marshall was apprehended in North Carolina. 441 00:22:47,801 --> 00:22:50,974 We received intel from the family 442 00:22:51,074 --> 00:22:52,243 of his whereabouts. 443 00:22:52,343 --> 00:22:53,879 Detective Berhalter's in training. 444 00:22:53,979 --> 00:22:56,585 So I'm going to go ahead and conduct his interview. 445 00:22:56,685 --> 00:23:02,530 ♪ 446 00:23:05,369 --> 00:23:07,574 - All right. 447 00:23:11,247 --> 00:23:13,786 - Mm-hmm. 448 00:23:20,299 --> 00:23:21,669 - Mm-hmm. 449 00:23:56,004 --> 00:23:57,106 ♪ 450 00:24:05,524 --> 00:24:07,226 [dramatic music] 451 00:24:07,293 --> 00:24:10,065 - Mr. Marshall, I can understand. 452 00:24:10,165 --> 00:24:11,467 There's rules to the game. 453 00:24:11,569 --> 00:24:13,338 You don't threaten a man and his kid. 454 00:24:13,438 --> 00:24:14,474 ♪ 455 00:24:14,575 --> 00:24:16,912 But I can see it in your face. 456 00:24:16,979 --> 00:24:21,221 Your whole actions right here, man, tells it all. 457 00:24:21,321 --> 00:24:23,058 ♪ 458 00:24:23,125 --> 00:24:25,697 Man, you set out to take somebody's life that night. 459 00:24:25,797 --> 00:24:29,905 ♪ 460 00:24:33,913 --> 00:24:36,552 ♪ 461 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:40,693 ♪ 462 00:24:48,208 --> 00:24:49,376 ♪ 463 00:24:49,477 --> 00:24:50,847 OK? 464 00:24:50,947 --> 00:24:52,550 ♪ 465 00:25:05,877 --> 00:25:07,747 - But have you seen the video? 466 00:25:09,483 --> 00:25:11,989 - OK. And that is you? 467 00:25:12,089 --> 00:25:14,160 [ominous music] 468 00:25:15,496 --> 00:25:17,166 [dramatic sting] 469 00:25:24,514 --> 00:25:26,619 - Yeah. 470 00:25:26,686 --> 00:25:29,156 [papers rustle, door clicks open] 471 00:25:29,256 --> 00:25:33,833 ♪ 472 00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:36,572 - He said they was arguing as they got inside the store. 473 00:25:36,639 --> 00:25:37,807 Dude told him, 474 00:25:37,907 --> 00:25:40,714 "I should've murked you and your son yesterday." 475 00:25:40,781 --> 00:25:44,320 So he said that's when he went off the deep end. 476 00:25:44,387 --> 00:25:46,525 He said next, you know, he went in. 477 00:25:46,625 --> 00:25:48,529 He said everything went black after that. 478 00:25:48,629 --> 00:25:50,399 - So he admitted to everything? - Yeah. 479 00:25:50,499 --> 00:25:53,438 [pulsing ominous music] 480 00:25:53,539 --> 00:26:00,720 ♪ 481 00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:08,468 [ominous music] 482 00:26:08,569 --> 00:26:11,341 ♪ 483 00:26:11,408 --> 00:26:13,145 - In this next case from Tulsa, 484 00:26:13,211 --> 00:26:15,716 video played a critical role in determining 485 00:26:15,817 --> 00:26:17,353 whether the victim's hit-and-run death 486 00:26:17,420 --> 00:26:19,491 was a murder or a careless accident. 487 00:26:19,558 --> 00:26:26,539 ♪ 488 00:26:26,606 --> 00:26:29,143 [camera shutter clicks] 489 00:26:43,005 --> 00:26:45,577 [camera shutter clicking] - Oh, my gosh. 490 00:26:45,677 --> 00:26:47,748 [ominous music] 491 00:26:47,848 --> 00:26:50,953 - Victim that's dead is a Shawn Birdo. 492 00:26:51,053 --> 00:26:53,025 ♪ 493 00:26:53,125 --> 00:26:56,699 narrator: 46-year-old Shawn Birdo worked odd jobs 494 00:26:56,766 --> 00:26:58,837 and often stayed with family members, 495 00:26:58,903 --> 00:27:02,944 but sometimes chose to sleep in shelters or on the street. 496 00:27:03,011 --> 00:27:07,052 He was known for his sense of humor and kindness to others. 497 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,724 [dramatic music] 498 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:17,608 - Mm-kay. The girl's in the hospital? 499 00:27:17,708 --> 00:27:19,611 - Yeah, she's stable condition now. 500 00:27:19,711 --> 00:27:22,717 [indistinct radio chatter] 501 00:27:22,784 --> 00:27:25,857 [solemn music] 502 00:27:25,957 --> 00:27:31,033 ♪ 503 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,577 ♪ 504 00:27:35,644 --> 00:27:38,215 - So did three people get hit? - Yes. 505 00:27:38,315 --> 00:27:40,219 narrator: Officers discovered a third victim 506 00:27:40,285 --> 00:27:41,420 with minor injuries 507 00:27:41,522 --> 00:27:44,026 and transported him to Homicide. 508 00:27:44,126 --> 00:27:47,967 ♪ 509 00:27:48,969 --> 00:27:49,772 - Yeah? 510 00:27:49,872 --> 00:27:51,609 - I think that looks new. 511 00:27:51,676 --> 00:27:53,278 [camera shutter clicks] 512 00:27:53,378 --> 00:27:54,915 There's one new little track. 513 00:27:54,981 --> 00:27:56,183 ♪ 514 00:27:57,654 --> 00:27:58,956 Turned, hit the curb a little bit 515 00:27:59,057 --> 00:28:01,160 as he's trying to turn onto the sidewalk. 516 00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:02,330 ♪ 517 00:28:02,397 --> 00:28:04,133 Goes through here. 518 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,473 Goes in between the pole and the wall. 519 00:28:07,540 --> 00:28:10,145 Like, he avoided this? 520 00:28:10,245 --> 00:28:11,715 Oh! 521 00:28:11,816 --> 00:28:14,487 You couldn't do this unless you tried. 522 00:28:14,555 --> 00:28:15,857 - I would've thought 523 00:28:15,957 --> 00:28:18,863 if he came off at all, he'd have got stuck right here. 524 00:28:18,963 --> 00:28:19,831 - Right, he would've been stuck. 525 00:28:19,931 --> 00:28:21,868 So he's intentionally sober enough 526 00:28:21,969 --> 00:28:23,272 not to hit the wall, 527 00:28:23,372 --> 00:28:26,377 'cause I haven't seen a mark yet on the wall from a car. 528 00:28:26,444 --> 00:28:27,914 And he didn't fall in this. 529 00:28:27,981 --> 00:28:30,786 So that's some pretty meticulous driving. 530 00:28:30,853 --> 00:28:32,289 [ominous music] 531 00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:34,093 This is an intentional act. 532 00:28:34,193 --> 00:28:35,830 I mean, I thought--well, at first, 533 00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:36,866 maybe we got a drunk driver 534 00:28:36,966 --> 00:28:38,302 who just accidentally did something, 535 00:28:38,402 --> 00:28:40,472 but this is too specific. 536 00:28:40,574 --> 00:28:42,511 - Someone who knew what he was doing. 537 00:28:42,578 --> 00:28:45,482 [pulsing dramatic music] 538 00:28:45,583 --> 00:28:46,719 ♪ 539 00:28:46,786 --> 00:28:48,388 - There's a camera on the corner. 540 00:28:48,454 --> 00:28:50,693 There's one right up there. 541 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,229 - The top one, I think, 542 00:28:52,296 --> 00:28:53,967 is the one that shoots back this way. 543 00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:55,369 - Cool. 544 00:28:55,469 --> 00:28:57,641 - We'll get the video. 545 00:28:57,707 --> 00:29:00,880 ♪ 546 00:29:00,980 --> 00:29:02,851 - I have no idea why you'd wanna kill homeless people. 547 00:29:02,918 --> 00:29:06,625 That's the million-dollar question right now. 548 00:29:06,725 --> 00:29:10,499 ♪ 549 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,506 [ominous music] 550 00:29:13,606 --> 00:29:18,381 ♪ 551 00:29:18,481 --> 00:29:20,085 OK. We got video. 552 00:29:20,152 --> 00:29:21,856 narrator: The team has the surveillance video 553 00:29:21,922 --> 00:29:24,193 from the homeless mission next to the crime scene. 554 00:29:24,293 --> 00:29:27,667 - 6:15, I think, is the time the officers got the call. 555 00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:29,436 ♪ 556 00:29:32,076 --> 00:29:36,451 ♪ 557 00:29:36,518 --> 00:29:37,554 Whoa. 558 00:29:37,621 --> 00:29:39,658 That's the truck. 559 00:29:39,758 --> 00:29:41,227 ♪ 560 00:29:41,327 --> 00:29:42,530 God! 561 00:29:46,939 --> 00:29:48,074 - We rarely think of a vehicle as a murder weapon. 562 00:29:48,074 --> 00:29:50,078 But cars are like a multi-ton missile. 563 00:29:50,178 --> 00:29:52,349 Using one to kill homeless people is hard to believe. 564 00:29:52,449 --> 00:29:54,821 But the Tulsa detectives have it all on video. 565 00:29:54,921 --> 00:29:58,028 [ominous music] 566 00:29:58,128 --> 00:29:59,430 - [gasps] 567 00:29:59,531 --> 00:30:02,737 ♪ 568 00:30:02,804 --> 00:30:04,307 - See if you can just roll that back. 569 00:30:04,373 --> 00:30:05,643 ♪ 570 00:30:05,743 --> 00:30:09,751 - There's a couple sleeping right here. 571 00:30:09,818 --> 00:30:12,724 The third guy's against the wall. 572 00:30:12,790 --> 00:30:19,404 ♪ 573 00:30:19,470 --> 00:30:22,042 He's right in between that pillar and the wall. 574 00:30:22,142 --> 00:30:23,145 ♪ 575 00:30:23,211 --> 00:30:24,748 He is actually on the curb. 576 00:30:24,814 --> 00:30:30,994 ♪ 577 00:30:31,094 --> 00:30:33,431 God, he just gunned the hell out of it and took off. 578 00:30:33,532 --> 00:30:35,603 [ominous music] 579 00:30:35,704 --> 00:30:37,439 - Here. Go back. 580 00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:44,521 ♪ 581 00:30:47,694 --> 00:30:49,765 - Oh, he's casing. 582 00:30:49,832 --> 00:30:53,071 This was a true murder. 583 00:30:53,171 --> 00:30:54,842 ♪ 584 00:30:54,942 --> 00:30:56,879 - Is that even a full-size truck? 585 00:30:56,979 --> 00:30:58,048 - It's a little one. 586 00:30:58,115 --> 00:30:59,918 - It looks like an older Toyota Tacoma. 587 00:30:59,985 --> 00:31:02,991 [intriguing music] 588 00:31:03,058 --> 00:31:05,329 - Looks like it's got a bed liner in the back. 589 00:31:05,396 --> 00:31:07,366 - Yeah. - Maybe. 590 00:31:07,466 --> 00:31:10,338 [ominous music] 591 00:31:10,438 --> 00:31:11,542 ♪ 592 00:31:11,642 --> 00:31:15,415 - I think that the top right of that windshield is broke. 593 00:31:15,482 --> 00:31:16,885 You can barely tell. 594 00:31:16,985 --> 00:31:18,154 I think a rock hit it, 595 00:31:18,254 --> 00:31:21,896 and I think that circle you see is the spider. 596 00:31:21,996 --> 00:31:23,397 It's like a tattoo. 597 00:31:23,497 --> 00:31:26,505 We're gonna know we have the right car because of that. 598 00:31:26,605 --> 00:31:27,640 ♪ 599 00:31:27,707 --> 00:31:31,046 - Right now looks like just victims for no reason. 600 00:31:31,147 --> 00:31:32,483 There could be more to it, obviously. 601 00:31:32,584 --> 00:31:33,786 We don't know. 602 00:31:33,886 --> 00:31:36,124 [cell phone ringing] 603 00:31:36,224 --> 00:31:37,192 - Yeah? 604 00:31:37,292 --> 00:31:39,062 narrator: Ryden gets a call from Patrol. 605 00:31:39,163 --> 00:31:40,466 - [bleep]. OK. 606 00:31:40,533 --> 00:31:42,904 I'm headed out there. 607 00:31:45,743 --> 00:31:48,014 Same car hit another person downtown. 608 00:31:48,114 --> 00:31:51,253 [tense music] 609 00:31:51,353 --> 00:31:55,062 ♪ 610 00:31:55,162 --> 00:31:57,365 We're going on the assumption right now 611 00:31:57,432 --> 00:31:59,537 it's the same vehicle we already have a picture of. 612 00:31:59,637 --> 00:32:06,618 ♪ 613 00:32:07,821 --> 00:32:11,260 [sighs] How many people got hit on this? 614 00:32:12,798 --> 00:32:14,535 - Sitting right there eating a salad, 615 00:32:14,635 --> 00:32:16,104 doing her thing. 616 00:32:16,204 --> 00:32:18,274 He come up on the curb and ran over the girl. 617 00:32:18,374 --> 00:32:19,443 [indistinct] 618 00:32:19,511 --> 00:32:21,413 - Did she already go to the hospital? 619 00:32:23,485 --> 00:32:26,424 [solemn music] 620 00:32:26,525 --> 00:32:27,694 ♪ 621 00:32:27,794 --> 00:32:29,631 [dramatic music] 622 00:32:32,637 --> 00:32:33,572 - OK. 623 00:32:33,672 --> 00:32:34,841 ♪ 624 00:32:34,941 --> 00:32:37,479 - So I'm gonna have to have you guys come out and talk to me 625 00:32:37,547 --> 00:32:38,883 at the detective division 626 00:32:38,949 --> 00:32:40,520 because someone died earlier 627 00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:42,456 and this man is trying to target homeless people. 628 00:32:42,557 --> 00:32:43,224 - Yeah. 629 00:32:43,324 --> 00:32:44,293 - I gotta get him off the streets. 630 00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:45,495 And it's witnesses like you 631 00:32:45,596 --> 00:32:46,932 that are gonna make me able to do that. 632 00:32:46,999 --> 00:32:49,872 [dramatic music] 633 00:32:49,938 --> 00:32:57,219 ♪ 634 00:32:59,958 --> 00:33:01,728 Michael, I appreciate you coming down. 635 00:33:02,997 --> 00:33:04,433 So tell me in your words 636 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:06,571 what happened before the police got there. 637 00:33:08,976 --> 00:33:10,746 - The girl that got hit was your girlfriend? 638 00:33:10,846 --> 00:33:12,148 - Yes, sir. 639 00:33:12,249 --> 00:33:14,019 Me and her was sitting down, eating. 640 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,891 She's sitting right here. I'm sitting here. 641 00:33:16,992 --> 00:33:18,996 She was on the curb. 642 00:33:19,096 --> 00:33:22,035 And I turned to get a-- 643 00:33:22,136 --> 00:33:24,473 I'm not gonna lie to you-- my drink. 644 00:33:24,574 --> 00:33:25,609 ♪ 645 00:33:25,710 --> 00:33:27,179 I seen the truck. 646 00:33:27,246 --> 00:33:30,285 When he came around the corner, he was turning real slow. 647 00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:31,521 But when he seen her on the curb, 648 00:33:31,688 --> 00:33:33,358 looked like he just floored it, just--I mean, man, 649 00:33:33,425 --> 00:33:36,231 he just ran over her like a dog or something, man. 650 00:33:36,297 --> 00:33:37,399 - And did she go right underneath the front? 651 00:33:37,499 --> 00:33:38,903 - Yes, she went under the truck. 652 00:33:39,003 --> 00:33:40,471 - It's amazing she's alive. 653 00:33:40,539 --> 00:33:42,844 Is there any reason this man should have run her over? 654 00:33:42,911 --> 00:33:43,913 - Not at all. - OK. 655 00:33:44,013 --> 00:33:45,014 - She don't even know him. 656 00:33:45,114 --> 00:33:46,986 - Could you tell what race he was? 657 00:33:47,052 --> 00:33:48,454 - White. 658 00:33:48,555 --> 00:33:51,294 narrator: He says the driver appeared to be in his mid-30s 659 00:33:51,394 --> 00:33:53,197 and wore a baseball cap. 660 00:33:53,298 --> 00:33:55,469 - OK. The vehicle. 661 00:33:55,570 --> 00:33:58,843 - A white--it had to be a Toyota or Chevy, 662 00:33:58,910 --> 00:34:00,478 but it was a short bed. 663 00:34:00,579 --> 00:34:03,519 [ominous music] 664 00:34:03,619 --> 00:34:04,386 ♪ 665 00:34:04,453 --> 00:34:06,224 That's the truck right there. 666 00:34:06,291 --> 00:34:08,027 - OK. - I remember the tires on it. 667 00:34:08,127 --> 00:34:09,330 These. - Kay. 668 00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:11,601 - Just like it. - OK. 669 00:34:11,668 --> 00:34:13,238 [dramatic music] 670 00:34:13,304 --> 00:34:15,910 narrator: Ryden turns to the second witness. 671 00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:17,213 - OK, Jackie. 672 00:34:17,313 --> 00:34:18,749 I appreciate you coming down. 673 00:34:18,816 --> 00:34:20,620 - No problem. 674 00:34:20,686 --> 00:34:22,089 - Tell me what you saw 675 00:34:22,189 --> 00:34:24,694 in reference to what just happened at the QuikTrip. 676 00:34:24,795 --> 00:34:26,932 [speech inaudible] 677 00:34:27,032 --> 00:34:29,938 [solemn music] 678 00:34:30,038 --> 00:34:37,252 ♪ 679 00:34:38,054 --> 00:34:40,224 - That's a psycho. 680 00:34:40,325 --> 00:34:42,463 - We have three different incidents. 681 00:34:42,564 --> 00:34:45,435 This guy's not gonna stop until we stop him. 682 00:34:45,536 --> 00:34:48,441 [dramatic music] 683 00:34:48,542 --> 00:34:49,744 ♪ 684 00:34:49,844 --> 00:34:52,517 narrator: Ten hours in, Corporal Schilling returns 685 00:34:52,617 --> 00:34:54,621 with surveillance video from the QuikTrip. 686 00:34:54,687 --> 00:34:57,560 ♪ 687 00:34:57,660 --> 00:34:58,996 - So here's... 688 00:34:59,096 --> 00:35:02,002 [ominous music] 689 00:35:02,102 --> 00:35:03,706 ♪ 690 00:35:03,806 --> 00:35:05,375 He pulls off Denver. 691 00:35:05,475 --> 00:35:06,812 Goes on the street. - Yep. 692 00:35:06,912 --> 00:35:08,314 - Heads north. 693 00:35:08,414 --> 00:35:09,717 ♪ 694 00:35:09,784 --> 00:35:13,324 - Then you see him come up here and take the left. 695 00:35:13,424 --> 00:35:15,863 ♪ 696 00:35:15,963 --> 00:35:19,604 - I believe it's this one. 697 00:35:19,704 --> 00:35:21,073 - Where's she at? 698 00:35:21,140 --> 00:35:23,044 - Right here. 699 00:35:23,110 --> 00:35:25,448 ♪ 700 00:35:25,516 --> 00:35:27,152 - They said he went real slow around the corner, 701 00:35:27,253 --> 00:35:28,354 then he gunned it. 702 00:35:28,454 --> 00:35:34,232 ♪ 703 00:35:34,299 --> 00:35:36,471 [dramatic music] 704 00:35:36,572 --> 00:35:37,908 - [sighs] 705 00:35:37,974 --> 00:35:39,678 ♪ 706 00:35:39,778 --> 00:35:41,447 The coldness and the callousness you see here, 707 00:35:41,514 --> 00:35:43,451 she actually saw it coming. 708 00:35:43,518 --> 00:35:46,625 You can see her lean back at the very last minute. 709 00:35:46,725 --> 00:35:50,198 ♪ 710 00:35:52,002 --> 00:35:54,908 [ominous music] 711 00:35:55,008 --> 00:35:57,714 ♪ 712 00:35:57,814 --> 00:36:00,451 - Can you go back to 5:30 this morning? 713 00:36:00,553 --> 00:36:02,389 Jackie was attacked at the bus stop 714 00:36:02,456 --> 00:36:04,761 and thinks it's the same truck. 715 00:36:04,828 --> 00:36:08,067 narrator: On another camera angle from the store... 716 00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:10,639 - I believe it's this one. 717 00:36:10,739 --> 00:36:11,742 - Let's see. 718 00:36:11,842 --> 00:36:14,581 [ominous music] 719 00:36:14,681 --> 00:36:17,385 Yeah, that's definitely the same car. 720 00:36:17,485 --> 00:36:20,959 ♪ 721 00:36:25,435 --> 00:36:28,240 ♪ 722 00:36:28,307 --> 00:36:31,313 - Dude's laying down on the bench. 723 00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:34,521 [ominous music] 724 00:36:34,587 --> 00:36:38,495 ♪ 725 00:36:38,596 --> 00:36:41,200 - Right here he says, "Hey, man. What's up?" 726 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:43,805 And then he pulls out the rod immediately. 727 00:36:43,905 --> 00:36:46,545 ♪ 728 00:36:46,612 --> 00:36:48,783 Yeah, there he goes. He hit him in the shoulder. 729 00:36:48,849 --> 00:36:52,255 ♪ 730 00:36:52,322 --> 00:36:54,460 He's big enough he was able to fight him off. 731 00:36:54,527 --> 00:36:57,534 ♪ 732 00:36:57,601 --> 00:36:59,871 - I think now we blow up the media. 733 00:36:59,938 --> 00:37:03,211 - We begin Fox 23 News at 10:00 with two hit and runs 734 00:37:03,311 --> 00:37:05,248 within the last 12 hours, 735 00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:06,417 one of them deadly 736 00:37:06,483 --> 00:37:08,421 but both sending people to the hospital. 737 00:37:08,488 --> 00:37:11,662 Police are still searching for the driver of this truck 738 00:37:11,762 --> 00:37:14,667 who they believe to be involved in both accidents. 739 00:37:14,734 --> 00:37:17,607 [driving music] 740 00:37:17,673 --> 00:37:24,754 ♪ 741 00:37:29,864 --> 00:37:31,568 - Smashed windshield. 742 00:37:31,634 --> 00:37:34,774 ♪ 743 00:37:34,841 --> 00:37:36,845 [camera shutter clicks] 744 00:37:36,911 --> 00:37:37,947 ♪ 745 00:37:38,014 --> 00:37:39,383 - It's got the black wheels... 746 00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:40,753 [camera shutter clicks] 747 00:37:40,853 --> 00:37:42,056 And the bed liner. 748 00:37:42,122 --> 00:37:47,967 ♪ 749 00:37:48,034 --> 00:37:49,771 - It's gonna be our truck. 750 00:37:49,838 --> 00:37:51,808 - '91 Toyota. 751 00:37:51,875 --> 00:37:53,043 [ominous music] 752 00:37:53,110 --> 00:37:56,117 It's registered to a house quarter mile from here. 753 00:37:56,183 --> 00:37:57,553 - We got officers on scene. 754 00:37:57,653 --> 00:38:00,926 Ran the tag and it checks to a Jeremy Thacker. 755 00:38:00,993 --> 00:38:03,565 He's a 40-year-old white male. 756 00:38:03,665 --> 00:38:06,905 I think we the vehicle for sure and possible suspect. 757 00:38:07,005 --> 00:38:08,308 ♪ 758 00:38:08,408 --> 00:38:09,577 But he's dangerous for sure. 759 00:38:09,677 --> 00:38:11,481 I mean, tried to kill five people. 760 00:38:11,548 --> 00:38:13,552 Hopefully we'll get him in custody pretty soon 761 00:38:13,652 --> 00:38:14,887 and see what he has to say for himself. 762 00:38:14,954 --> 00:38:16,056 [pulsing music] 763 00:38:16,123 --> 00:38:18,494 narrator: Detectives meet the warrants squad 764 00:38:18,562 --> 00:38:21,868 at Jeremy Thacker's address... 765 00:38:21,935 --> 00:38:24,808 [dramatic music] 766 00:38:24,874 --> 00:38:30,084 ♪ 767 00:38:30,151 --> 00:38:31,521 - He in custody yet? 768 00:38:31,621 --> 00:38:34,159 ♪ 769 00:38:34,259 --> 00:38:36,598 narrator: And place him under arrest. 770 00:38:38,836 --> 00:38:45,415 ♪ 771 00:38:45,482 --> 00:38:47,886 - It's Jeremy, right? Jeremy Thacker? 772 00:38:47,953 --> 00:38:48,955 [ominous music] 773 00:38:49,055 --> 00:38:51,293 Yep. He's got a history. 774 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,266 [dramatic music] 775 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:56,170 narrator: 40-year-old Jeremy Thacker 776 00:38:56,237 --> 00:38:57,840 has prior convictions for assault 777 00:38:57,907 --> 00:38:59,009 with a dangerous weapon, 778 00:38:59,109 --> 00:39:02,282 public intoxication, driving under the influence, 779 00:39:02,349 --> 00:39:05,221 speeding, and resisting arrest. 780 00:39:05,321 --> 00:39:07,392 - Hey, Jeremy. - How are you doing? 781 00:39:07,459 --> 00:39:08,729 - All right. How about you? 782 00:39:08,796 --> 00:39:10,566 - Pretty good. 783 00:39:10,633 --> 00:39:12,436 - There's your Coke, and I'm gonna have one myself. 784 00:39:12,503 --> 00:39:14,072 It's been a long day. 785 00:39:16,344 --> 00:39:17,445 Jeremy, I'm Detective Ryden. 786 00:39:17,513 --> 00:39:18,915 This is Detective Schilling. 787 00:39:18,982 --> 00:39:20,218 - What's going on? 788 00:39:20,284 --> 00:39:21,354 - We're working some cases, 789 00:39:21,420 --> 00:39:22,857 and you've come up in those investigations, 790 00:39:22,923 --> 00:39:24,293 and I'd like to get your side of the story 791 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,863 if you're willing to give it. 792 00:39:25,963 --> 00:39:27,465 - What's going on? 793 00:39:27,533 --> 00:39:28,602 - Well, I'll go into that, 794 00:39:28,668 --> 00:39:31,373 but first I need to ask you some questions. 795 00:39:31,473 --> 00:39:33,177 No questions I ask are meant to be insulting. 796 00:39:33,244 --> 00:39:34,581 I ask everybody. 797 00:39:34,647 --> 00:39:35,883 Do you understand that 798 00:39:35,950 --> 00:39:37,219 I'm a detective with the police department? 799 00:39:37,286 --> 00:39:38,454 - Mm-hmm. 800 00:39:38,555 --> 00:39:40,057 - Do you understand you're at the police station? 801 00:39:40,124 --> 00:39:41,294 - Yes. - OK. 802 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,863 - Today, have you had any alcohol? 803 00:39:42,930 --> 00:39:45,335 - No, I just woke up. - OK. 804 00:39:45,402 --> 00:39:47,072 Have you taken any illegal drugs? 805 00:39:47,138 --> 00:39:48,307 - Uh, no. 806 00:39:48,374 --> 00:39:49,911 - Are you prescribed any medication 807 00:39:50,011 --> 00:39:52,048 you're supposed to take from a doctor? 808 00:39:53,017 --> 00:39:54,820 - Yes, sir. 809 00:39:55,556 --> 00:39:57,693 - OK. And what is that for, sir? 810 00:39:57,793 --> 00:40:00,131 - That is for bipolar two. 811 00:40:00,231 --> 00:40:03,237 A rare disorder. 812 00:40:03,304 --> 00:40:05,341 It's on the lines of schizophrenic. 813 00:40:05,408 --> 00:40:07,179 [dramatic music] 814 00:40:07,246 --> 00:40:09,416 - OK, and how many times 815 00:40:09,517 --> 00:40:11,387 do you take that medication a day? 816 00:40:11,453 --> 00:40:12,890 - You're supposed to take it one time a day. 817 00:40:12,957 --> 00:40:14,927 - When was the last time you took that medication? 818 00:40:16,731 --> 00:40:17,934 - When you're not taking that medication, 819 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,136 does that affect the way you're thinking, 820 00:40:19,236 --> 00:40:20,271 talking to me? 821 00:40:20,371 --> 00:40:22,008 Do you understand what I'm talking about? 822 00:40:22,108 --> 00:40:23,812 - Yes. - OK. 823 00:40:23,912 --> 00:40:25,381 I've done this for over 20 years. 824 00:40:25,448 --> 00:40:26,785 There's always two sides to every story. 825 00:40:26,851 --> 00:40:29,223 And I like to not go with just one side of the story. 826 00:40:29,290 --> 00:40:31,460 If you're willing to talk to me today, 827 00:40:31,561 --> 00:40:33,531 I'm gonna talk about my investigation. 828 00:40:33,598 --> 00:40:34,900 [ominous music] 829 00:40:34,967 --> 00:40:36,470 - If I want to talk to you today? 830 00:40:36,571 --> 00:40:38,141 - If you wanna start answering--talking to me, 831 00:40:38,241 --> 00:40:39,510 and if at any point you say no-- 832 00:40:39,577 --> 00:40:41,915 - I think I'm gonna go ahead and get an attorney. 833 00:40:42,015 --> 00:40:43,050 - That's totally fine. 834 00:40:43,150 --> 00:40:50,164 ♪ 835 00:40:53,605 --> 00:40:55,609 - So you know the damage to the windshield? 836 00:40:55,709 --> 00:40:58,114 Everyone that we've looked at so far 837 00:40:58,180 --> 00:40:59,116 went under the truck. 838 00:40:59,183 --> 00:41:00,418 Is that... - Right. 839 00:41:00,484 --> 00:41:02,523 - The impact team found a report 840 00:41:02,590 --> 00:41:04,861 of a guy that got hit on Sunday night. 841 00:41:04,961 --> 00:41:07,365 narrator: Schilling discovers another hit-and-run victim 842 00:41:07,432 --> 00:41:11,675 who was run over the night before Shawn Birdo was killed. 843 00:41:11,742 --> 00:41:13,979 - We went up to the hospital. 844 00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:17,085 He's got a broken pelvis, three broken ribs. 845 00:41:17,152 --> 00:41:19,356 He says, "Man, I was walking down the sidewalk." 846 00:41:19,456 --> 00:41:21,027 So that's gonna fit with... - Right. 847 00:41:21,127 --> 00:41:23,632 - The intentional acts on these other ones. 848 00:41:23,732 --> 00:41:25,603 Don't have a very good vehicle description. 849 00:41:25,669 --> 00:41:28,775 But he says that he rolls up 850 00:41:28,875 --> 00:41:32,382 on the vehicle into the windshield. 851 00:41:32,482 --> 00:41:33,619 - So that would explain why 852 00:41:33,685 --> 00:41:36,591 Mr. Thacker's windshield's all messed up. 853 00:41:36,658 --> 00:41:38,193 - [clicks tongue] 854 00:41:38,260 --> 00:41:40,397 [dramatic music] 855 00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:42,804 - This is an extraordinary case. 856 00:41:42,904 --> 00:41:45,341 Usually people don't start running over innocent people 857 00:41:45,408 --> 00:41:46,912 for absolutely no reason. 858 00:41:47,012 --> 00:41:49,416 I mean, he knows the difference between right, wrong. 859 00:41:49,483 --> 00:41:51,487 Some mental issues plays a part in it 860 00:41:51,554 --> 00:41:54,392 but I don't think that excuses what he did. 861 00:41:54,492 --> 00:42:01,707 ♪ 862 00:42:09,924 --> 00:42:12,128 - The first time you watch a murder on video, 863 00:42:12,195 --> 00:42:13,965 nothing can prepare you. 864 00:42:14,065 --> 00:42:16,336 You see the anger. You see the rage. 865 00:42:16,403 --> 00:42:18,308 You see the crazy. 866 00:42:18,374 --> 00:42:19,810 In the heat of the moment, 867 00:42:19,911 --> 00:42:21,848 people don't care whether cameras are rolling or not. 868 00:42:21,915 --> 00:42:23,384 If it's something that they're determined 869 00:42:23,451 --> 00:42:24,721 that they're gonna do, 870 00:42:24,787 --> 00:42:26,090 they're gonna do it. 871 00:42:26,190 --> 00:42:28,360 And I think that's the most disturbing part of it. 872 00:42:28,427 --> 00:42:31,166 [birds chirping] 57058

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