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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,306 --> 00:00:08,035 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:08,108 --> 00:00:12,011 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:12,079 --> 00:00:13,877 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:13,947 --> 00:00:16,746 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:16,817 --> 00:00:18,478 These are their stories. 6 00:00:19,253 --> 00:00:22,018 CROSSING GUARD: Come on, let's shake a leg, there's the bell. 7 00:00:22,089 --> 00:00:24,820 Good morning, sunshine, you feeling better today? 8 00:00:24,892 --> 00:00:25,882 Yeah. Good. 9 00:00:25,959 --> 00:00:29,259 Come on. It's a beautiful day, let's make it a good one. 10 00:00:29,329 --> 00:00:31,798 All right, young man, come on, now. 11 00:00:31,865 --> 00:00:33,663 Have a good day. 12 00:00:33,734 --> 00:00:34,724 How are you? 13 00:00:34,801 --> 00:00:36,496 I can't complain. How's the family? 14 00:00:36,570 --> 00:00:38,629 Lianajust got early acceptance to Cornell. 15 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:40,764 You must be so proud. 16 00:00:40,841 --> 00:00:41,831 How is your daughter? 17 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:44,378 Ten years old, acting like Lil' Kim. 18 00:00:44,444 --> 00:00:47,175 Mothers of daughters have more gray hairs than mothers of sons. 19 00:00:47,247 --> 00:00:49,545 Tell me about it. All you can do is pray. (TIRES SCREECHING) 20 00:00:49,616 --> 00:00:50,777 (CRASHING) 21 00:00:50,851 --> 00:00:51,841 Oh, my word! 22 00:00:51,919 --> 00:00:54,149 That didn't sound good. Oh, no. 23 00:00:54,688 --> 00:00:55,712 (GIRL SCREAMING) 24 00:00:55,789 --> 00:00:57,883 Call 911. Now! 25 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:03,719 FONTANA: What you got? 26 00:01:03,797 --> 00:01:04,787 Hit and run. 27 00:01:04,865 --> 00:01:06,060 ED: So Why'd you call us? 28 00:01:06,133 --> 00:01:08,431 I'm not sure it was an accident. 29 00:01:09,403 --> 00:01:10,871 Jacob Lowenstein. 30 00:01:10,938 --> 00:01:13,032 Lowenstein? The wife beater? 31 00:01:13,106 --> 00:01:14,335 COP: The one who killed his little kid. 32 00:01:14,408 --> 00:01:16,240 I saw his coming out photo a month ago. 33 00:01:16,310 --> 00:01:18,176 I thought, you know, what's this guy doing around a school? 34 00:01:18,245 --> 00:01:19,440 You did the right thing calling us. 35 00:01:19,513 --> 00:01:21,003 Witnesses? 36 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:24,016 Yeah. A big black car, maybe an SUV, 37 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:25,711 travelling at a high rate of speed, 38 00:01:25,786 --> 00:01:28,084 hit him as he jay walked across the street, 39 00:01:28,155 --> 00:01:30,817 and kept going. That's about it. I'll keep looking. 40 00:01:30,891 --> 00:01:31,983 What about Lowenstein? 41 00:01:32,059 --> 00:01:33,083 Tore off his leg. 42 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,491 I thought he wouldn't make it to the O.R. 43 00:01:34,561 --> 00:01:37,428 Let us know what you come up with, all right? 44 00:01:37,497 --> 00:01:40,694 No skid marks, no indication the driver tried not to hit him. 45 00:01:40,767 --> 00:01:44,328 FONTANA: Talk about your public service homicides. ED: If he dies. 46 00:01:44,404 --> 00:01:47,101 Well, it is rush hour. 47 00:02:37,958 --> 00:02:39,949 Guy's out a month, someone runs him down. 48 00:02:40,027 --> 00:02:41,927 Lowenstein's parole got plenty of press. 49 00:02:41,995 --> 00:02:44,430 That man beat his wife until she didn't look human 50 00:02:44,498 --> 00:02:45,590 and then he did the same thing 51 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:48,260 to his five-year-old daughter and left her to die. 52 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:51,201 And for that he winds up doing 15 years. 53 00:02:51,271 --> 00:02:53,831 You know, Donald Cragen worked the original case. 54 00:02:54,241 --> 00:02:55,231 We'll reach out to him. 55 00:02:55,308 --> 00:02:57,106 We thought maybe we'd start with Lowenstein's PO first 56 00:02:57,177 --> 00:02:58,303 and then maybe his ex. 57 00:02:58,645 --> 00:02:59,976 All right. 58 00:03:03,483 --> 00:03:05,781 GRADY: Served the required two-thirds of his sentence. 59 00:03:05,852 --> 00:03:07,479 Model prisoner. They had to let him out. 60 00:03:07,554 --> 00:03:08,783 System sucks. 61 00:03:08,855 --> 00:03:10,482 You gotta give him some hope, I suppose. 62 00:03:10,557 --> 00:03:11,718 That's what they say. 63 00:03:11,792 --> 00:03:14,284 Without the carrot, these guys would be impossible to control. 64 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:15,954 And you know, they're not all as bad as Lowenstein. 65 00:03:16,029 --> 00:03:17,019 Well, that's the point. 66 00:03:17,097 --> 00:03:19,327 Someone like Lowenstein short circuits the system. 67 00:03:19,399 --> 00:03:20,867 So what were the rules of his release? 68 00:03:20,934 --> 00:03:24,768 A curfew, 9:00 to 7:00, drug counseling random drug testing, 69 00:03:24,838 --> 00:03:27,569 anger management classes, a 12-step program. 70 00:03:27,641 --> 00:03:29,575 Hey, it's all part of a package these days. 71 00:03:29,643 --> 00:03:31,372 You gotta try somethin'. 72 00:03:31,445 --> 00:03:32,435 Anything else? 73 00:03:32,512 --> 00:03:35,482 Well, no contact with minors, of course. No contact with his kid. 74 00:03:36,483 --> 00:03:38,042 Kid? Yeah, there was a son. 75 00:03:38,118 --> 00:03:40,018 Must have been two, three, at the time. 76 00:03:40,087 --> 00:03:41,714 He's living on Long Island somewhere. 77 00:03:41,788 --> 00:03:44,052 Lowenstein was supposed to be staying in a halfway house? 78 00:03:44,124 --> 00:03:45,387 For the first six months. 79 00:03:45,459 --> 00:03:47,359 ED: You got an address? 80 00:03:47,894 --> 00:03:49,419 They, uh... They call me. 81 00:03:49,496 --> 00:03:50,827 You lost track of him? 82 00:03:50,897 --> 00:03:53,059 What am I supposed to do, call the National Guard to find the guy? 83 00:03:53,133 --> 00:03:54,259 Do you know how many cases I got? 84 00:03:54,334 --> 00:03:57,599 Do you have a more high profile parolee than Lowenstein? 85 00:03:57,671 --> 00:03:58,934 Why didn't you violate him? 86 00:03:59,005 --> 00:04:00,473 Well, I'm going to, aren't I, 87 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:01,769 as soon as I can get to the paperwork. 88 00:04:02,442 --> 00:04:05,605 Something tells me that your workload is gonna get a lot lighter. 89 00:04:06,279 --> 00:04:08,247 Whoa. Take it easy, man. 90 00:04:09,583 --> 00:04:11,881 Lowenstein was a coked-up, crazy creep. 91 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:15,186 He used Carla as a punching bag for years. 92 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:16,552 Bruises, broken bones. 93 00:04:16,623 --> 00:04:19,752 By the time we got there, herjaw was so swollen she couldn't talk. 94 00:04:19,826 --> 00:04:21,851 What about the little girl? 95 00:04:22,295 --> 00:04:25,060 She was black, blue and burned. 96 00:04:26,433 --> 00:04:27,559 When I'm havin' a bad night, 97 00:04:27,634 --> 00:04:30,569 this is the one that comes back and haunts me. 98 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:34,130 His PO said he had a son? 99 00:04:34,441 --> 00:04:36,341 Ezra. Two years old. 100 00:04:36,409 --> 00:04:38,605 Malnourished, neglected. 101 00:04:38,678 --> 00:04:42,171 Spent most of his time tied to the radiator, like a dog. 102 00:04:42,249 --> 00:04:44,741 The parole officer also said that he's living on Long Island. 103 00:04:44,818 --> 00:04:46,411 I'll get you a name and address. 104 00:04:46,486 --> 00:04:48,079 He was doing well, last I heard. 105 00:04:48,155 --> 00:04:49,486 A happy ending, considering. 106 00:04:49,556 --> 00:04:51,490 Speaking of happy endings, how's Lowenstein? 107 00:04:51,558 --> 00:04:52,957 He's still on the critical list. 108 00:04:53,026 --> 00:04:56,223 I hope he lingers a long time in excruciating pain. 109 00:04:57,164 --> 00:04:58,928 Have you talked to his ex yet, Carla? 110 00:04:58,999 --> 00:05:00,990 ED: We're still looking for her. 111 00:05:01,067 --> 00:05:02,728 Her shrink might be able to help you. 112 00:05:02,803 --> 00:05:06,603 He resurrected her. Brought her back from the dead. Literally. 113 00:05:13,113 --> 00:05:16,344 Someone like Lowenstein is a user, a predator. 114 00:05:16,416 --> 00:05:20,410 He can smell weakness vulnerability, and exploit it. 115 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:23,286 Like a hyena stalking awounded animal. 116 00:05:23,356 --> 00:05:25,848 Is that what happened with Carla? Did he sniff her out? 117 00:05:25,926 --> 00:05:28,918 Let's just say, such a woman, 118 00:05:29,696 --> 00:05:33,394 damaged, vulnerable, lonely, 119 00:05:33,466 --> 00:05:36,163 under the sway of such a man, would do anything 120 00:05:36,236 --> 00:05:39,467 to win and keep his approval no matter how depraved, 121 00:05:39,539 --> 00:05:42,065 no matter what the damage to herself or her children. 122 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:45,702 Would such a woman still be under his sway? 123 00:05:45,779 --> 00:05:48,214 Recovery is possible. I've seen it myself. 124 00:05:48,281 --> 00:05:50,010 Is it ever possible 125 00:05:50,717 --> 00:05:54,813 that the prey animal attacked the predator first before he could find her? 126 00:05:54,888 --> 00:05:58,620 A prey animal doesn't attack a predator unless it's cornered. 127 00:05:59,459 --> 00:06:00,654 I mean, if he came to her door, 128 00:06:00,727 --> 00:06:03,697 maybe she might use a knife or a gun to defend herself. 129 00:06:03,763 --> 00:06:07,996 But follow him, stalk him, attack him preemptively with a car? 130 00:06:08,068 --> 00:06:09,593 No. I wouldn't think so. 131 00:06:09,669 --> 00:06:12,730 You sound pretty passionate about this, Doctor. 132 00:06:13,173 --> 00:06:15,642 Maybe we be asking you about your alibi? 133 00:06:16,109 --> 00:06:18,635 I'm a lifelong New Yorker, Detective. 134 00:06:20,213 --> 00:06:22,113 I don't have a license, 135 00:06:23,149 --> 00:06:25,811 and I don't drive. 136 00:06:26,786 --> 00:06:29,585 Look, Doctor, we need to talk to Carla, 137 00:06:29,656 --> 00:06:32,250 if only to eliminate her as a suspect. 138 00:06:33,059 --> 00:06:35,460 I'll tell you what. I'll call her. 139 00:06:36,763 --> 00:06:39,061 If she's willing to talk to you. 140 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,129 She works in a nursery school. 141 00:06:42,202 --> 00:06:44,864 We thought we'd take a ride out there, see if she's got an alibi. 142 00:06:44,938 --> 00:06:48,431 Her shrink says that we can cross her off the list and move on. 143 00:06:48,508 --> 00:06:49,873 I'll do it. 144 00:06:51,611 --> 00:06:54,706 It had nothing to do with what happened to Jacob. 145 00:06:55,048 --> 00:06:57,449 VAN BUREN: So, when he got paroled? 146 00:06:57,517 --> 00:06:58,882 I panicked. 147 00:07:01,154 --> 00:07:03,145 I walked away from my job, 148 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:05,692 my apartment. 149 00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:09,085 I was afraid he would find me. 150 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:11,962 Why would he come looking for you? 151 00:07:13,133 --> 00:07:15,158 Because he still blames me. 152 00:07:16,069 --> 00:07:17,798 Can you believe it? 153 00:07:19,873 --> 00:07:22,069 He never admitted what he did. 154 00:07:23,209 --> 00:07:26,941 Everything that ever happened to him is someone else's fault. 155 00:07:27,314 --> 00:07:28,873 Where were you that morning? 156 00:07:28,949 --> 00:07:31,577 I was here. Drop-off starts at 7:30. 157 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:39,858 If I was still angry enough to want to kill him, 158 00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:45,058 it would mean I was still tied to him emotionally. 159 00:07:46,299 --> 00:07:48,267 And I can't afford that. 160 00:07:49,536 --> 00:07:52,198 Even after what he did to you and your children? 161 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,275 You know what I want in life? 162 00:07:58,411 --> 00:08:00,311 Not to think about him. 163 00:08:01,247 --> 00:08:02,874 Not remember him. 164 00:08:04,117 --> 00:08:05,846 Not talk about him. 165 00:08:07,053 --> 00:08:08,714 Not hear his name. 166 00:08:11,291 --> 00:08:12,622 That's all. 167 00:08:21,701 --> 00:08:24,227 I don't believe she'd ever go near that man again, 168 00:08:24,304 --> 00:08:26,671 not even behind the wheel of a tank. 169 00:08:26,740 --> 00:08:27,969 How is Lowenstein? 170 00:08:28,041 --> 00:08:30,408 Still critical. But we may be able to talk to him tomorrow. 171 00:08:30,477 --> 00:08:32,275 And we did get a location on his son. 172 00:08:32,345 --> 00:08:33,335 Yeah, Patchogue. 173 00:08:33,413 --> 00:08:37,111 Well, this time of day, you're better off taking the tunnel. 174 00:08:37,951 --> 00:08:39,316 PLAYER: Set! 175 00:08:40,153 --> 00:08:41,848 (WHISTLE BLOWS) 176 00:08:41,921 --> 00:08:45,152 Ez! Brian! Two more plays and we're done. 177 00:08:45,225 --> 00:08:48,957 Come here, will you? These two gentlemen want to talk to you. 178 00:08:50,663 --> 00:08:52,062 Thanks, Coach. How you doing, Ezra? 179 00:08:52,132 --> 00:08:54,430 I'm Detective Green, this is my partner, Detective Fontana. 180 00:08:54,501 --> 00:08:56,230 Hi, Ezra. Do you know why we're here? 181 00:08:56,302 --> 00:08:59,033 I think so. I've been reading the papers. 182 00:08:59,572 --> 00:09:00,562 Is he gonna die? 183 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,937 He might. It don't look good. 184 00:09:02,008 --> 00:09:02,998 Okay. 185 00:09:03,076 --> 00:09:05,909 Have you heard from him since he's been out of prison? 186 00:09:05,979 --> 00:09:07,845 It's okay if you have. 187 00:09:08,314 --> 00:09:09,873 He called a couple of times. 188 00:09:09,949 --> 00:09:11,314 Have you seen him? 189 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:12,374 Hey, Ezra. 190 00:09:12,452 --> 00:09:14,318 Dad. What's going on? 191 00:09:14,387 --> 00:09:16,219 New York City Police Department, sir. 192 00:09:16,289 --> 00:09:17,347 What's this about? 193 00:09:17,424 --> 00:09:18,949 Jacob Lowenstein. 194 00:09:19,025 --> 00:09:21,187 We werejust asking Ezra if he'd seen him recently. 195 00:09:21,261 --> 00:09:22,990 I can answer that. No, he hasn't. 196 00:09:23,396 --> 00:09:26,422 Uh, actually, I have. Once. 197 00:09:26,833 --> 00:09:29,530 He took the train out. I met him at the station for a few minutes. 198 00:09:29,602 --> 00:09:31,934 Don't be mad. I was curious. 199 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:33,501 I'm not mad. 200 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:34,665 ED: What'd you talk about? 201 00:09:35,508 --> 00:09:38,842 He denied everything. Said it was all lies, he never hurt anyone, 202 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:41,677 especially my birth mother, my sister and me. 203 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:43,375 Anything else? 204 00:09:43,450 --> 00:09:44,815 He asked me for money. 205 00:09:44,884 --> 00:09:46,682 I told you he didn't care about you. 206 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,913 It was like talking to a creepy stranger. 207 00:09:48,988 --> 00:09:51,218 NATE: That's exactly what he is, Ezra, a creepy stranger. 208 00:09:51,291 --> 00:09:52,918 I know. I'm sorry. 209 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,821 Excuse me, sir, but where were you the day that Lowenstein got hit? 210 00:09:56,896 --> 00:09:59,866 On the Long Island Rail Road, on my way into my office in Midtown. 211 00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:01,796 Where were you that morning, Ezra? 212 00:10:01,868 --> 00:10:04,030 School. You can check with my homeroom teacher. 213 00:10:04,104 --> 00:10:05,196 ED: Do you have a car? 214 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:06,261 Yeah. 215 00:10:06,339 --> 00:10:07,807 We're gonna need to take a look at both of your cars. 216 00:10:09,909 --> 00:10:12,310 Go ahead. We have nothing to hide. 217 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:19,176 FONTANA: When do you think we'll be able to talk to him? 218 00:10:19,252 --> 00:10:22,711 Well, maybe tomorrow. He's in and out of lucidity. The morphine. 219 00:10:22,789 --> 00:10:23,915 He have any visitors? 220 00:10:23,990 --> 00:10:27,688 Uh, his lawyer and his fianc?e. 221 00:10:28,394 --> 00:10:29,384 His fianc?e? 222 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:30,452 That's what she said. 223 00:10:30,530 --> 00:10:31,588 You remember her name? 224 00:10:31,664 --> 00:10:34,099 She's down the hall, in the lounge. 225 00:10:36,736 --> 00:10:38,431 We got engaged about a year ago, 226 00:10:38,505 --> 00:10:41,998 when it started to look like Jake's parole would come through. 227 00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:45,136 "Jake." Can we talk to you out here? 228 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:48,043 He gave me this ring when he got out. 229 00:10:48,114 --> 00:10:50,981 He spent every dime he had in the world on it. 230 00:10:51,050 --> 00:10:52,814 He loves me so much. 231 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,715 Sheryl. 232 00:10:57,090 --> 00:10:59,559 Do you know why he was in prison? 233 00:10:59,626 --> 00:11:01,822 I was, like, in grammar school when that happened. 234 00:11:01,895 --> 00:11:03,056 If it happened. 235 00:11:04,597 --> 00:11:07,931 So, you're not worried about any of this? 236 00:11:08,768 --> 00:11:09,860 About what? 237 00:11:12,272 --> 00:11:15,003 Okay, listen, we're gonna give you a card. 238 00:11:15,909 --> 00:11:17,934 If you need anything. What would I need? 239 00:11:19,712 --> 00:11:20,873 How did you two meet? 240 00:11:20,947 --> 00:11:23,041 Oh, I read an article about him, 241 00:11:23,116 --> 00:11:25,642 and then I wrote him a letter. And he wrote back. 242 00:11:25,718 --> 00:11:28,187 Sol looked him up on the Corrections Department website. 243 00:11:28,254 --> 00:11:30,416 They even had a map and instructions. 244 00:11:30,490 --> 00:11:32,356 Must have made visiting day a snap. 245 00:11:32,425 --> 00:11:35,986 Yeah, well, we just wanna put this all behind us, you know, get married, 246 00:11:36,062 --> 00:11:37,860 get on with our lives. 247 00:11:37,931 --> 00:11:39,797 Jake's so good with my kids. 248 00:11:41,034 --> 00:11:42,399 (STAMMERS) You have kids? 249 00:11:42,468 --> 00:11:44,334 Yeah, a boy and a girl. 250 00:11:44,404 --> 00:11:47,533 They've been so happy since he moved in with us. 251 00:11:47,607 --> 00:11:50,406 Wait a second. This guy is living with you? 252 00:11:50,476 --> 00:11:51,637 Since he left the halfway house. 253 00:11:51,711 --> 00:11:53,577 What the hell is the matter with you? 254 00:11:53,646 --> 00:11:55,273 If you want to screw up your own life, 255 00:11:55,348 --> 00:11:57,112 be our guest, it's a free country, 256 00:11:57,183 --> 00:12:00,084 but to bring this guy into your house with your kids? 257 00:12:00,153 --> 00:12:02,781 Yeah, he would never ever hurt them. 258 00:12:03,489 --> 00:12:06,254 Does his parole officer know about this arrangement? 259 00:12:06,326 --> 00:12:08,886 Jacob said he approved it, and so did Dr. Draper. 260 00:12:08,962 --> 00:12:11,897 Said it was his first step in his return to normalcy. 261 00:12:11,965 --> 00:12:12,955 Who's Dr. Draper? 262 00:12:13,032 --> 00:12:16,024 Joyce Draper, the therapist he worked with in prison. 263 00:12:16,102 --> 00:12:18,901 She really helped him deal with his anger. 264 00:12:19,205 --> 00:12:21,606 About him being incarcerated and all. 265 00:12:21,674 --> 00:12:22,800 Oh, he was angry about that, huh? 266 00:12:22,875 --> 00:12:24,138 Oh, yeah. 267 00:12:24,210 --> 00:12:26,144 But he was getting through it. 268 00:12:26,212 --> 00:12:29,580 He was doing really well, too. And then this happened. 269 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:32,714 (SIGHS) I feel so guilty. 270 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:36,886 I mean, we lived right around the corner from where he got hit. 271 00:12:36,956 --> 00:12:38,481 But why would you feel guilty? 272 00:12:39,525 --> 00:12:40,993 The accident? 273 00:12:41,694 --> 00:12:44,391 It happened right after he dropped Emily off at school. 274 00:12:52,105 --> 00:12:55,700 Joyce'll be right out. She's just finishing up with a patient. 275 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:58,244 We understand your wife does some work up at the penitentiary. 276 00:12:58,311 --> 00:12:59,801 Couple of days a week. 277 00:12:59,879 --> 00:13:02,371 The rest of the time, she sees her regular patients here. 278 00:13:02,448 --> 00:13:04,610 She ever talk about the patients she treats? 279 00:13:04,684 --> 00:13:05,879 You mean like Jacob Lowenstein? 280 00:13:05,952 --> 00:13:07,442 FONTANA: For instance. 281 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,215 We have a rule in the house. 282 00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:11,348 I don't talk about calculus proofs, 283 00:13:11,424 --> 00:13:13,358 she doesn't make pillow talk about prisoners. 284 00:13:13,426 --> 00:13:15,155 You said it wasn't your choice? 285 00:13:15,228 --> 00:13:16,855 If I had my druthers, she'd do something else. 286 00:13:16,929 --> 00:13:18,954 JOYCE: Ron? In here, honey. 287 00:13:22,669 --> 00:13:24,467 My wife, Joyce Draper. 288 00:13:25,004 --> 00:13:27,132 Hi. Detective G reen, Detective Fontana. 289 00:13:27,774 --> 00:13:28,832 Hi. 290 00:13:28,908 --> 00:13:30,933 Well, I'll leave you to it. 291 00:13:32,011 --> 00:13:34,480 I imagine you're here about Jacob Lowenstein. 292 00:13:34,547 --> 00:13:37,539 Yes. Dr. Draper, what can you tell us about him? 293 00:13:38,017 --> 00:13:40,111 I'm not a doctor, I'm a social worker. 294 00:13:40,186 --> 00:13:41,347 Sorry. 295 00:13:41,421 --> 00:13:43,981 Lowenstein was one of a number of inmates 296 00:13:44,057 --> 00:13:46,458 who volunteered to have intensive therapy. 297 00:13:46,526 --> 00:13:49,359 An experimental program. Individual and group. 298 00:13:49,429 --> 00:13:50,487 Did he want to change his life? 299 00:13:50,563 --> 00:13:51,928 Did he want to straighten himself out? What? 300 00:13:51,998 --> 00:13:54,990 Because it'd look good on his parole application. 301 00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:58,436 I'm not a babe in the woods. I don't kid myself about their motives. 302 00:13:58,504 --> 00:14:00,871 But that doesn't mean it didn't do him some good, anyway. 303 00:14:00,940 --> 00:14:02,066 Well, did it do him any good? 304 00:14:02,141 --> 00:14:04,838 I think it did, yes. Definitely. 305 00:14:04,911 --> 00:14:07,403 FONTANA: After he got out, did you have any further contact with him? 306 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,472 My contact with an inmate ends when he's released. 307 00:14:11,484 --> 00:14:14,476 And then what happens? He goes cold turkey? 308 00:14:14,554 --> 00:14:18,184 He receives counseling as a part of his parole. Just not from me. 309 00:14:18,257 --> 00:14:19,986 He didn't call, try to get in touch with you? 310 00:14:20,059 --> 00:14:22,790 He did call once, from the halfway house. 311 00:14:23,129 --> 00:14:25,029 Told me how hard it was to be out, 312 00:14:25,098 --> 00:14:27,260 all eyes on him all the time. 313 00:14:27,333 --> 00:14:28,459 FONTANA: He didn't want to see you? 314 00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:30,161 I wasn't about to violate the rules. 315 00:14:30,536 --> 00:14:32,265 And that was it? You never heard from him again? 316 00:14:32,338 --> 00:14:35,399 I didn't give him what he wanted, so he gave up. 317 00:14:36,676 --> 00:14:39,805 Uh, did you know about his fianc?e, Sheryl? 318 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:43,311 Yes. Met her once, after a therapy session. 319 00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:46,944 Yeah. She's got children, two little kids. He's living with them. 320 00:14:47,019 --> 00:14:48,487 He's supposed to be at the halfway house. 321 00:14:48,554 --> 00:14:50,215 His parole officer lost track of him. 322 00:14:50,289 --> 00:14:51,518 That's not a good situation. 323 00:14:51,591 --> 00:14:55,721 Well, if he lives, he's going back to jail for violating his parole. 324 00:14:56,162 --> 00:14:59,462 We talked to Carla's psychiatrist, Dr. Clayburg. 325 00:14:59,532 --> 00:15:01,364 Yes, he's well-respected. 326 00:15:01,434 --> 00:15:05,132 Yeah. He says that guys like Lowenstein were incurable. 327 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:07,566 There is that school of thought. 328 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,734 Do you subscribe to that school of thought? 329 00:15:09,809 --> 00:15:13,245 If I did, I couldn't continue to do the work that I do. 330 00:15:15,715 --> 00:15:17,843 The son, Ezra? His car is clean. (CELL PHONE RINGING) 331 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:19,646 What about his father's SUV? 332 00:15:19,719 --> 00:15:21,687 That's clean, too. Hello? 333 00:15:21,754 --> 00:15:23,654 His alibi is solid. He was in his office. 334 00:15:23,723 --> 00:15:25,088 He had meetings the whole morning. 335 00:15:25,158 --> 00:15:27,650 Okay, okay, thanks. It was the hospital. 336 00:15:27,727 --> 00:15:28,785 Lowenstein? Mmm-hmm. 337 00:15:28,861 --> 00:15:30,761 He wants to talk to us. 338 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:39,296 It wasn't an accident? Somebody did this deliberately? 339 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:43,671 What the hell? Why would somebody wanna hurt me? 340 00:15:43,743 --> 00:15:44,733 FONTANA: You're kidding, right? 341 00:15:44,811 --> 00:15:49,271 ED: Witnesses say they heard a car accelerating before and after it hit you. 342 00:15:49,348 --> 00:15:54,809 All those years in that godforsaken place. I paid my dues. 343 00:15:55,021 --> 00:15:57,149 Some people would say you haven't even begun. 344 00:15:57,223 --> 00:16:00,352 Forget about everything you think you know. 345 00:16:01,594 --> 00:16:05,997 I loved those kids, every minute I was with them. 346 00:16:06,199 --> 00:16:08,395 Yeah,youloved those kids to death, didn't you? 347 00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:10,835 That was all the media's fault. 348 00:16:11,571 --> 00:16:15,599 The whole thing from start to finish, blown out of proportion. 349 00:16:16,175 --> 00:16:17,540 You think they were hard on you? 350 00:16:17,610 --> 00:16:20,807 They took her side all the way. Carla's. 351 00:16:21,848 --> 00:16:23,338 And then when they let me out, 352 00:16:23,416 --> 00:16:26,317 they completely made me a target, 353 00:16:26,385 --> 00:16:29,844 with the cameras and the news coverage. 354 00:16:29,922 --> 00:16:31,754 Look what it got me. 355 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:33,792 What do you remember about that morning? 356 00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:36,454 I dropped Emily off at school. 357 00:16:37,129 --> 00:16:40,429 And then I was walking to the corner to get a paper. 358 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,261 Next thing I know, I wake up here, 359 00:16:45,037 --> 00:16:49,668 and I'm missing my leg. My leg, for God's sake. 360 00:16:52,345 --> 00:16:55,076 Did you see the car that hit you, sir? 361 00:16:56,048 --> 00:17:00,417 I don't remember anything after I dropped her off. 362 00:17:01,287 --> 00:17:03,346 You ain't giving us that much to work with. 363 00:17:03,422 --> 00:17:05,413 I'm giving you what I got. 364 00:17:06,459 --> 00:17:10,521 So, you find the scumbag who ran me over? 365 00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:12,058 We're looking. 366 00:17:12,131 --> 00:17:14,657 Not looking too hard, are you? 367 00:17:15,701 --> 00:17:18,534 I can't believe I was safer inside. 368 00:17:18,604 --> 00:17:19,765 FONTANA: How did you manage that? 369 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:22,001 To stay safe on the inside? 370 00:17:22,074 --> 00:17:25,135 Guys like you, child killers, molesters... 371 00:17:25,211 --> 00:17:27,236 I never killed anybody. 372 00:17:27,313 --> 00:17:29,714 They get taken apart in the joint. 373 00:17:30,816 --> 00:17:33,308 I got a law degree, 374 00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:37,345 and I did legal work for the other inmates. 375 00:17:43,229 --> 00:17:46,221 Managed to get himself a correspondence school J.D. inside. 376 00:17:46,299 --> 00:17:47,494 ED: Kept him in one piece. 377 00:17:47,567 --> 00:17:49,296 Kept him busy, too. 378 00:17:49,368 --> 00:17:51,530 He had 'em lining up around the cell block. 379 00:17:51,604 --> 00:17:54,972 Writs, appeals for new trials, for parole hearings. 380 00:17:55,041 --> 00:17:56,202 Well, he couldn't have won any. 381 00:17:56,275 --> 00:17:57,743 Of course not, they're all guilty. 382 00:17:57,810 --> 00:17:59,039 It doesn't stop them from trying. 383 00:17:59,111 --> 00:18:00,670 Well, was there anyone in particular 384 00:18:00,746 --> 00:18:02,805 who was bent out of shape over losing an appeal? 385 00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:06,949 This one inmate, Lowenstein tried a couple of times 386 00:18:07,019 --> 00:18:09,010 to get him a hearing for a new trial. 387 00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:11,955 He didn't take it at all well when he got turned down. 388 00:18:12,024 --> 00:18:13,253 Blamed it on his lawyer. 389 00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:14,316 Don't they all? 390 00:18:14,393 --> 00:18:15,383 Can we talk to him? 391 00:18:15,461 --> 00:18:18,055 He got released, couple of months ago. 392 00:18:19,932 --> 00:18:22,367 I watched his back, he was supposed to get me out. 393 00:18:22,435 --> 00:18:24,062 But he screwed up your appeal. 394 00:18:24,136 --> 00:18:26,537 Twice. Till I got me a real lawyer. 395 00:18:26,606 --> 00:18:29,507 The Cockroach didn't have a clue what he was doing. 396 00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:30,701 "Cockroach"? 397 00:18:30,776 --> 00:18:32,244 That was his nickname inside the joint 398 00:18:32,311 --> 00:18:33,801 'cause he gave everybody the creeps. 399 00:18:33,879 --> 00:18:35,074 Made your skin crawl. 400 00:18:35,147 --> 00:18:38,310 Okay. You got an alibi for the morning he got hit by that car? 401 00:18:38,384 --> 00:18:39,715 You're lookin' at it. 402 00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:42,550 Anyone else on the inside have a beef with Lowenstein? 403 00:18:42,622 --> 00:18:44,681 Yeah, take your pick. Nobody liked him. 404 00:18:44,757 --> 00:18:48,819 He was a whiner, a teacher's pet. The therapist? 405 00:18:48,894 --> 00:18:52,125 Her experimental cognitive whatever. 406 00:18:52,198 --> 00:18:53,222 You're talking about Draper? 407 00:18:53,299 --> 00:18:55,324 Lowenstein was her pet project. 408 00:18:55,401 --> 00:18:56,800 ED: You were in her group, too? 409 00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:59,736 Yeah. Wanna know the best part about therapy? 410 00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:01,034 Her ass. 411 00:19:03,576 --> 00:19:07,979 Thanks. Joyce Draper drives a 2002 Ford Explorer SUV. 412 00:19:08,047 --> 00:19:10,175 Fits what the crime lab said. 413 00:19:11,417 --> 00:19:14,910 What if Lowenstein was her pet project, 414 00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:16,216 and what if, for some reason, 415 00:19:16,288 --> 00:19:18,256 she decided that this was never gonna work, 416 00:19:18,324 --> 00:19:19,519 he was never gonna change. 417 00:19:19,592 --> 00:19:20,889 Like Dr. Clayburg said. Right. 418 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:21,950 Remember what he said? 419 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:25,623 He said that a woman like Carla would not have the moxie 420 00:19:25,698 --> 00:19:27,257 to kill Lowenstein preemptively. 421 00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:28,528 But Joyce Draper would. 422 00:19:28,601 --> 00:19:31,263 Brother would she? With plenty of moxie left over. 423 00:19:31,337 --> 00:19:33,465 We need to look into her car. 424 00:19:33,539 --> 00:19:34,700 Hello? 425 00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:36,604 Hospital? 426 00:19:37,043 --> 00:19:38,841 Lowenstein just took a turn for the worse. 427 00:19:38,911 --> 00:19:40,345 Well, I hope he doesn't settle out 428 00:19:40,413 --> 00:19:41,847 before we get a chance to talk to him 429 00:19:41,914 --> 00:19:43,245 about his favorite shrink. 430 00:19:43,315 --> 00:19:45,750 Okay, we'll be right there. Thanks. 431 00:19:46,952 --> 00:19:48,681 Pulmonary embolism. 432 00:19:49,455 --> 00:19:51,890 I guarantee you, she's the only person in this world 433 00:19:51,957 --> 00:19:54,688 that will ever shed a tear over this guy. 434 00:20:00,166 --> 00:20:02,100 We took a look at Joyce Draper's car. 435 00:20:02,168 --> 00:20:03,158 Without a warrant? 436 00:20:03,235 --> 00:20:05,863 She offered it up. Just had it washed and detailed, 437 00:20:05,938 --> 00:20:08,339 didn't expect us to find anything. 438 00:20:08,741 --> 00:20:09,731 Did you? Yeah. 439 00:20:09,809 --> 00:20:12,107 A hairline crack in the front grille 440 00:20:12,178 --> 00:20:14,146 and trace DNA on the bumper. 441 00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:15,203 Can we match it? 442 00:20:15,281 --> 00:20:19,081 It's a little bit degraded, but the M.E. says it's definitely Lowenstein's. 443 00:20:19,151 --> 00:20:20,312 What about her alibi? 444 00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:22,514 Home alone, no way to verify. 445 00:20:22,588 --> 00:20:23,851 What about a motive? 446 00:20:23,923 --> 00:20:26,415 Not so far. But we found out she quit herjob 447 00:20:26,492 --> 00:20:29,587 at the penitentiary a week after he got paroled. 448 00:20:29,662 --> 00:20:32,688 That's interesting. So she bluffed on the car. 449 00:20:32,765 --> 00:20:35,257 Well, let's ask her to come in and talk to us voluntarily. 450 00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:37,735 She can hardly say no to that now. 451 00:20:38,871 --> 00:20:40,532 I took a mental health morning, 452 00:20:40,606 --> 00:20:43,837 stayed home catching up on back issues of The New Yorker. 453 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:46,105 You make any calls, have any visitors? 454 00:20:46,178 --> 00:20:48,010 No, sorry. 455 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,344 Nobody to vouch for me but myself. 456 00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:52,350 Where was your husband? 457 00:20:52,418 --> 00:20:54,409 He had an early lecture to give. 458 00:20:55,454 --> 00:20:58,048 The police examined your car. 459 00:20:59,225 --> 00:21:00,522 I told them they could. 460 00:21:00,593 --> 00:21:03,119 And found a crack in the front grille. 461 00:21:03,195 --> 00:21:05,357 I rear-ended somebody ages ago. 462 00:21:05,431 --> 00:21:08,128 It didn't seem worth getting fixed just to jack up my insurance. 463 00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:09,930 Mmm-hmm. 464 00:21:11,036 --> 00:21:16,167 Crack in the front grille and Jacob Lowenstein's DNA. 465 00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:19,775 Jacob Lowenstein's DNA? That's not possible. 466 00:21:19,845 --> 00:21:21,335 Maybe you thought you'd washed it away? 467 00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:24,144 I really don't know how it could have gotten there. Are you sure? 468 00:21:24,216 --> 00:21:27,277 Look, Joyce, we know why you did it. 469 00:21:28,187 --> 00:21:29,814 You knew he shouldn't be out on the street. 470 00:21:29,889 --> 00:21:31,823 You probably did the city a real service. 471 00:21:31,891 --> 00:21:35,691 Hell, I wish I could throw you a parade. 472 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:41,066 But you also knew he was in violation of his parole. 473 00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:43,966 If you'd picked up the phone and called, 474 00:21:44,036 --> 00:21:46,664 he would have been sent back to prison. 475 00:21:50,342 --> 00:21:54,745 Now, I know the D.A. would consider a lesser charge. 476 00:21:57,016 --> 00:21:59,110 Vehicular manslaughter, maybe. 477 00:21:59,185 --> 00:22:02,155 A couple of years in a minimum security facility, 478 00:22:02,221 --> 00:22:03,382 and you're paroled. 479 00:22:03,455 --> 00:22:06,914 You can go on with your life. Pick up where you left off. 480 00:22:06,992 --> 00:22:10,724 We can work with you, Joyce. You hear what I'm saying? 481 00:22:12,565 --> 00:22:16,263 All you have to do is tell us what happened. 482 00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:24,600 I didn't do it. 483 00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:34,952 The DNA cannot be explained away. 484 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:38,684 Please, don't take your chances at trial. 485 00:22:38,757 --> 00:22:41,317 This here is your best shot. 486 00:22:44,597 --> 00:22:47,965 Come on. Tell me what happened. 487 00:22:53,138 --> 00:22:55,573 I can't continue this conversation. 488 00:22:57,943 --> 00:22:59,741 Not without a lawyer. 489 00:23:10,289 --> 00:23:13,350 She was on the brink. Just couldn't bring herself to give it up. 490 00:23:13,425 --> 00:23:15,450 If she did, it'd be the end of her career. 491 00:23:15,527 --> 00:23:18,053 Well, maybe that's what we should be looking at. 492 00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:19,120 Her career? 493 00:23:19,198 --> 00:23:22,031 Well, her work at the prison with Lowenstein. 494 00:23:22,101 --> 00:23:24,399 He had to volunteer for her treatment program. 495 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:25,938 Maybe those sessions were taped. 496 00:23:26,005 --> 00:23:27,564 If they were, we might get a better idea of 497 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,802 what was going on between the two of them. 498 00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:33,368 So do social workers have privilege, like shrinks? 499 00:23:33,445 --> 00:23:34,469 Well, it might not matter. 500 00:23:34,546 --> 00:23:36,708 If he was a prisoner in an experimental program, 501 00:23:36,782 --> 00:23:39,114 he probably had to sign a waiver. 502 00:23:42,321 --> 00:23:44,312 I was Joyce's supervisor on the study. 503 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:46,688 I understand that she resigned suddenly. 504 00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:51,162 The recidivism of certain kinds of offenders, sex offenders, sociopaths, 505 00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:53,562 it's inevitable. It's death and taxes. 506 00:23:53,632 --> 00:23:56,465 And so is the eventual burn-out of the people who try to help them. 507 00:23:56,535 --> 00:23:58,333 That's what happened, she burned out? 508 00:23:58,404 --> 00:24:02,568 I've been Joyce's mentor since graduate school. Her work is her life. 509 00:24:03,075 --> 00:24:04,338 Her marriage, personal life, 510 00:24:04,410 --> 00:24:06,902 everything else takes a back seat. 511 00:24:06,979 --> 00:24:08,606 It's a shame. 512 00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:11,981 She had eight years in on this study, less than two to go. 513 00:24:12,051 --> 00:24:14,247 What specifically made her quit? 514 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,845 She hit a wall. 515 00:24:15,921 --> 00:24:16,979 With Lowenstein? 516 00:24:17,056 --> 00:24:18,649 The study has a built-in component, 517 00:24:18,724 --> 00:24:21,421 so each researcher gets their own therapist. 518 00:24:21,493 --> 00:24:24,827 I was Joyce's. It's a firewall of sorts. 519 00:24:25,497 --> 00:24:27,556 So, their personal feelings about the inmates 520 00:24:27,633 --> 00:24:29,294 don't start to color the research. 521 00:24:29,368 --> 00:24:30,699 How often did you see her? 522 00:24:30,769 --> 00:24:32,066 It was supposed to be once a week. 523 00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:34,731 But toward the end, Joyce upped it to three times a week. 524 00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:36,400 Do you know why? 525 00:24:37,009 --> 00:24:38,443 Lowenstein was about to be released. 526 00:24:38,510 --> 00:24:40,604 Her stress level was through the roof. 527 00:24:40,679 --> 00:24:42,909 She was concerned about what he'd do? 528 00:24:45,417 --> 00:24:48,944 Take a look at the tape and judge for yourself. 529 00:24:53,926 --> 00:24:57,055 Oh, don't worry, I've always been a good daddy. 530 00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:00,755 He practically dared Draper to stop him. 531 00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:04,167 She must have tracked him from the halfway house to Sheryl's. 532 00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:08,195 If she was keeping tabs on the kids, maybe she called the school. 533 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:12,508 This lady called the office, said she was Emily's aunt. 534 00:25:12,578 --> 00:25:14,171 Wanted to know how she was feeling. 535 00:25:14,246 --> 00:25:15,338 What did you tell her? 536 00:25:15,414 --> 00:25:16,848 At first I didn't tell her anything. 537 00:25:16,915 --> 00:25:19,145 The nurse's office is not supposed to. 538 00:25:19,218 --> 00:25:21,050 But she was so nice and so persistent, 539 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,248 and she said she was trying to reach Emily's mother. 540 00:25:23,956 --> 00:25:25,890 It's okay, I don't blame you. 541 00:25:25,958 --> 00:25:27,221 You're not going to get into trouble. 542 00:25:27,826 --> 00:25:30,420 I told her she was a real trooper, which she is. 543 00:25:30,496 --> 00:25:33,329 Writing and drawing, even with the cast on. 544 00:25:37,302 --> 00:25:38,497 We checked the phone records. 545 00:25:38,570 --> 00:25:40,868 Draper placed the call from her office at the penitentiary 546 00:25:40,939 --> 00:25:42,998 two days before she ran Lowenstein down. 547 00:25:43,075 --> 00:25:44,702 When does the little girl break her wrist? 548 00:25:44,777 --> 00:25:48,042 A week after Lowenstein moved in with them, she fell off her bike. 549 00:25:48,113 --> 00:25:50,104 Draper thought Lowenstein was to blame. 550 00:25:50,182 --> 00:25:51,775 It's a fair assumption. 551 00:25:51,850 --> 00:25:54,911 And a strong motive. Have the police pick her up. 552 00:25:56,655 --> 00:25:58,180 Mrs. Draper. 553 00:25:58,257 --> 00:25:59,383 Detectives? 554 00:25:59,458 --> 00:26:01,927 You're under arrest for the murder of Jacob Lowenstein. 555 00:26:01,994 --> 00:26:03,120 Please don't handcuff me. 556 00:26:03,195 --> 00:26:06,187 We'll read you your rights in the car. Come on. 557 00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:09,758 If you're gonna let 'em out, you'd better keep up with 'em. 558 00:26:09,835 --> 00:26:12,668 We allowed him to go right back into the same situation, 559 00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:14,763 putting young children in harm's way. 560 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,604 It's the limitations of the system. 561 00:26:16,675 --> 00:26:19,337 Too many people on parole, not enough parole officers. 562 00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:23,245 Well, what's the alternative? Keeping guys like Lowenstein imprisoned indefinitely? 563 00:26:23,315 --> 00:26:24,874 I wish. 564 00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:27,942 Look, I understand that everything is a trade-off. 565 00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:30,990 I mean, obviously, the D.A. didn't have a slam-dunk murder case. 566 00:26:31,056 --> 00:26:32,615 Getting Lowenstein to plead to manslaughter 567 00:26:32,691 --> 00:26:34,056 was the best that they could do. 568 00:26:34,126 --> 00:26:36,322 That's what keeps D.A.'s up at night. 569 00:26:36,395 --> 00:26:38,295 You go for the max, you could lose. 570 00:26:38,363 --> 00:26:40,798 If you don't, the monster gets back on the street. 571 00:26:40,866 --> 00:26:44,268 They played the cards they were dealt, just as we do. 572 00:26:44,336 --> 00:26:48,136 And what Draper did was clearly wrong, any way you look at it. 573 00:26:48,707 --> 00:26:51,142 We can't countenance vigilantism. 574 00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:52,200 But realistically... 575 00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:53,506 Realistically? 576 00:26:53,579 --> 00:26:57,413 I know and you know, and Joyce Draper knows better than any of us, 577 00:26:57,483 --> 00:26:59,884 that the Lowensteins of the world don't change. 578 00:27:00,686 --> 00:27:02,677 But the law doesn't know. 579 00:27:03,689 --> 00:27:05,623 Maybe the Chinese have the best idea. 580 00:27:06,825 --> 00:27:09,260 Summary execution. A bullet to the brain. 581 00:27:09,328 --> 00:27:11,057 And the family pays for the bullet. 582 00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:13,423 You're not serious? 583 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:16,324 No. 584 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,702 Therapists who do this sort of work long enough, 585 00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:28,640 end up in the same dark place. 586 00:27:28,714 --> 00:27:30,239 JACK: Which is? 587 00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:32,511 They come to realize they themselves 588 00:27:32,584 --> 00:27:36,020 have been suffering from narcissistic wishful thinking. 589 00:27:36,588 --> 00:27:39,717 Did Joyce Draper think that she could cure Jacob Lowenstein? 590 00:27:39,791 --> 00:27:40,849 Objection. 591 00:27:40,926 --> 00:27:43,725 Dr. Peters can't testify to what Joyce Draper thought 592 00:27:43,795 --> 00:27:44,956 Sustained. 593 00:27:45,931 --> 00:27:47,763 You were her supervisor and therapist? 594 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:48,823 Yes. 595 00:27:48,901 --> 00:27:49,925 For how long? 596 00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:51,663 Eight years, six months. 597 00:27:51,737 --> 00:27:53,000 Until she resigned. 598 00:27:53,071 --> 00:27:54,061 Yes. 599 00:27:54,139 --> 00:27:56,233 Was her work at the prison complete? 600 00:27:56,308 --> 00:27:59,403 No, no. The study still had 18 months to run. 601 00:27:59,478 --> 00:28:03,608 Would you describe Joyce Draper as dependable, conscientious? 602 00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:05,275 More than that. She was driven. 603 00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:07,546 She was thoroughly committed to her work. 604 00:28:07,619 --> 00:28:11,817 JACK: Did she offer an explanation about her sudden decision to resign? 605 00:28:11,890 --> 00:28:15,793 In the beginning she'd thought she was making some progress with Lowenstein, 606 00:28:15,861 --> 00:28:17,829 then she came to realize he'd been conning her. 607 00:28:17,896 --> 00:28:19,694 Using her. Those were her words. 608 00:28:19,765 --> 00:28:25,135 How close in time was her resignation to Lowenstein's release? 609 00:28:25,571 --> 00:28:27,039 Within aweek of his parole. 610 00:28:27,105 --> 00:28:29,233 And that was the source of her frustration? 611 00:28:29,308 --> 00:28:31,800 In large part. Certainly there were other factors. 612 00:28:31,877 --> 00:28:33,003 Such as? 613 00:28:33,078 --> 00:28:35,604 I'd say that the stresses of her work life 614 00:28:35,681 --> 00:28:38,514 had a ripple effect on other areas of her life as well. 615 00:28:38,584 --> 00:28:39,779 JACK: At home? 616 00:28:39,851 --> 00:28:43,185 PETERS: This sort of work is bound to cause strains in a marriage. 617 00:28:43,255 --> 00:28:45,952 Can you say more about the stress she was under at work? 618 00:28:46,024 --> 00:28:47,788 You might say she had a crisis of faith. 619 00:28:47,859 --> 00:28:50,988 You see, it's not so much the particular technique here 620 00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:54,328 that makes the difference, it's the therapeutic relationship. 621 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:57,960 Between Joyce Draper and Jacob Lowenstein? 622 00:28:58,036 --> 00:29:00,937 This kind of offender tests the basic principle 623 00:29:01,006 --> 00:29:02,496 that everyone is redeemable. 624 00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:05,373 Therapists have to work through their own repulsion. 625 00:29:05,444 --> 00:29:08,880 Was Joyce Draper repulsed by Jacob Lowenstein? 626 00:29:08,947 --> 00:29:09,937 PETERS: Certainly. 627 00:29:10,015 --> 00:29:13,212 And Joyce held herself to some very high standards. 628 00:29:14,219 --> 00:29:15,983 She couldn't stand to fail. 629 00:29:16,054 --> 00:29:18,853 JACK: And she failed with Jacob Lowenstein? 630 00:29:18,924 --> 00:29:20,289 PETERS: Absolutely. 631 00:29:20,926 --> 00:29:23,452 Anyone would. He was beyond the pale. 632 00:29:26,698 --> 00:29:29,724 Did you know that from the beginning of the study? 633 00:29:29,801 --> 00:29:31,030 Oh, yes. 634 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:34,865 But you let her go ahead with it anyway? 635 00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:38,274 I thought she'd be a better therapist for it in the long run. 636 00:29:38,343 --> 00:29:39,401 Why? 637 00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:44,674 Joyce is very talented, maybe too talented. 638 00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:46,684 She thought she could get through to anyone. 639 00:29:46,752 --> 00:29:49,221 GOIDELL: And this experience would humble her? 640 00:29:50,322 --> 00:29:53,986 In away she needed to encounter someone like Lowenstein. 641 00:29:54,059 --> 00:29:57,324 We learn so much more from our failures than from our successes. 642 00:30:00,032 --> 00:30:02,057 And you set her up to fail. 643 00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:12,944 I think his testimony may have cut both ways. 644 00:30:13,011 --> 00:30:14,604 It helped paint the portrait, 645 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,240 a woman under stress who snapped when she saw Lowenstein 646 00:30:17,316 --> 00:30:19,717 drop that little girl off at school with her arm in a cast. 647 00:30:19,785 --> 00:30:22,720 Someone the jury may very well empathize with. 648 00:30:23,889 --> 00:30:26,290 It's a strong circumstantial case. 649 00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:30,755 They're still gonna latch on to why a woman like Draper, a professional woman, 650 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:33,298 did something so drastic, so out of character. 651 00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:35,163 It gives the jury cover. 652 00:30:35,233 --> 00:30:37,827 She couldn't have done it, despite all the evidence to the contrary. 653 00:30:37,903 --> 00:30:39,837 So what about the videotape from their last session? 654 00:30:39,905 --> 00:30:41,031 Talk about a two-edged sword. 655 00:30:41,106 --> 00:30:42,335 It gives you such a visceral sense 656 00:30:42,407 --> 00:30:44,569 of how dangerous Lowenstein was. 657 00:30:44,643 --> 00:30:47,510 It also shows her motive. You saw her reaction. 658 00:30:47,579 --> 00:30:49,513 What he was saying to her stopped her cold. 659 00:30:49,981 --> 00:30:52,450 If the defense is going forjury nullification... 660 00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:55,111 The imminent threat to the little girl, a sudden, impulsive act. 661 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:56,882 The tape supports premeditation. 662 00:30:56,955 --> 00:30:59,219 She started thinking about killing him then, 663 00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:01,350 not when she saw him on the street with Emily. 664 00:31:01,426 --> 00:31:03,053 That was just what made her pull the trigger. 665 00:31:03,128 --> 00:31:05,256 She'd already loaded the gun. 666 00:31:06,064 --> 00:31:07,759 It's a huge gamble. 667 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,127 It's your choice. 668 00:31:16,174 --> 00:31:20,168 JACOB: (ON TV) I can't wait to really get back to society. 669 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,871 Done with the halfway house, 670 00:31:23,949 --> 00:31:26,247 with some guy telling me what I can and cannot do. 671 00:31:26,318 --> 00:31:29,185 JOYCE: You still have almost seven years of parole to comply with. 672 00:31:29,254 --> 00:31:33,248 Oh, sure, I'll show up for the obligatory urine tests, 673 00:31:34,025 --> 00:31:38,121 and tell my PO exactly where I am at all times. 674 00:31:39,131 --> 00:31:41,463 Hey, Dr. Draper, don't worry about it. 675 00:31:41,533 --> 00:31:45,367 You know me, right? I always follow the rules. 676 00:31:46,304 --> 00:31:47,294 JOYCE: Good. 677 00:31:47,372 --> 00:31:48,965 JACOB: I'm not coming back here. 678 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,371 No, sir, no way. 679 00:31:54,646 --> 00:31:57,479 You know what I'm really looking forward to? 680 00:31:58,216 --> 00:31:59,809 No, Jacob, what? 681 00:32:00,419 --> 00:32:02,410 Spending time with Sheryl. 682 00:32:03,455 --> 00:32:04,854 That's natural. 683 00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:06,322 I'm thinking of moving in with her. 684 00:32:07,125 --> 00:32:08,684 After you're done with the halfway house? 685 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,195 Oh, sure, of course, absolutely. 686 00:32:12,197 --> 00:32:13,562 After that. 687 00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:15,756 Don't you think it'd be good for you 688 00:32:15,834 --> 00:32:18,235 to have your own place for a while? 689 00:32:18,303 --> 00:32:20,601 Nah, I never liked living alone. 690 00:32:21,139 --> 00:32:22,607 I always... 691 00:32:22,674 --> 00:32:25,405 I felt! needed a family, you know? 692 00:32:27,179 --> 00:32:29,409 A little girl. Like my Didi. 693 00:32:31,183 --> 00:32:35,051 You think that's wise? Besides the terms of your parole, clearly... 694 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,183 I know, I know. No unsupervised contact with minors. 695 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,951 Sheryl will supervise. 696 00:32:46,331 --> 00:32:48,095 Sheryl has children? 697 00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:49,991 I didn't realize that. 698 00:32:50,068 --> 00:32:54,301 Oh, yeah, she has Emily, a cute little first grader. 699 00:32:55,207 --> 00:33:01,305 This is Emily. Isn't she cute? Oh, what a face. 700 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,308 And this is her little brother, Spence. 701 00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:05,641 (CHUCKLING) 702 00:33:08,086 --> 00:33:11,386 Oh, don't worry, I've always been a good daddy. 703 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,254 (LAUGHING) 704 00:33:21,066 --> 00:33:22,727 You're still here. 705 00:33:22,801 --> 00:33:24,633 I'm writing my closing statement. 706 00:33:24,703 --> 00:33:26,467 You're going to take it all the way to the jury. 707 00:33:26,538 --> 00:33:29,530 No reason not to. That tape was pretty damning. 708 00:33:29,875 --> 00:33:31,240 That's your call, but a part of me 709 00:33:31,309 --> 00:33:33,368 wouldn't mind seeing this whole thing go away. 710 00:33:33,445 --> 00:33:34,674 Me, too. 711 00:33:36,715 --> 00:33:38,877 You know, this office has cut a deal 712 00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:41,044 with the likes of Jacob Lowenstein. 713 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:43,486 We could do the same thing with Joyce Draper. 714 00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:46,217 I'd be happy to if she'd allocute to what she did. 715 00:33:46,291 --> 00:33:47,383 She won't? 716 00:33:47,459 --> 00:33:50,121 I spoke to her lawyer, dangled the possibility. 717 00:33:50,195 --> 00:33:52,425 She won't accept any sort of guilty plea. 718 00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:55,265 I guess she's determined to see this thing through, too. 719 00:33:55,333 --> 00:33:56,823 Apparently so. 720 00:33:58,303 --> 00:34:00,294 He's putting her on the stand. 721 00:34:00,772 --> 00:34:02,672 (LAUGHS) Tread lightly. 722 00:34:04,342 --> 00:34:06,504 You know, this case reminds me of something 723 00:34:06,578 --> 00:34:09,070 a wise old country lawyer once said. 724 00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:13,985 He said, "You know, the first question that you ask in any murder case, 725 00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:16,544 "'Did the deceased deserve to die?"' 726 00:34:22,627 --> 00:34:27,064 JOYCE: I left abruptly, but burnout isn't exactly rare in my line of work. 727 00:34:27,632 --> 00:34:29,191 GOIDELL: Did your resignation have anything to do 728 00:34:29,267 --> 00:34:31,463 with Jacob Lowenstein's release? 729 00:34:31,536 --> 00:34:32,526 No. 730 00:34:32,604 --> 00:34:35,266 Lowenstein's release wasn't the reason you resigned? 731 00:34:35,874 --> 00:34:37,364 No, it wasn't. 732 00:34:37,976 --> 00:34:40,001 Did you hate Jacob Lowenstein? 733 00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:41,903 No. 734 00:34:42,547 --> 00:34:45,175 Can you describe your feelings for him? 735 00:34:46,351 --> 00:34:48,012 I found him fascinating. 736 00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:49,485 Fascinating? 737 00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:52,987 Highly intelligent, in some ways. 738 00:34:53,992 --> 00:34:56,859 Amoral. Without conscience or scruple. 739 00:34:56,928 --> 00:34:58,726 I wanted to know what made him tick. 740 00:34:58,797 --> 00:34:59,787 GOIDELL: Repulsive? 741 00:34:59,864 --> 00:35:01,025 JOYCE: Oh, certainly. 742 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:03,227 And did you think that you could help him? 743 00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:04,769 I wanted to try. 744 00:35:04,836 --> 00:35:06,065 Did you have any success? 745 00:35:06,137 --> 00:35:08,663 I think, through our work together, 746 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:11,766 he may have gained some insight into the sources of his behavior, 747 00:35:11,843 --> 00:35:13,709 which is the first step to controlling it. 748 00:35:14,813 --> 00:35:16,372 And was he able to do that? 749 00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:18,075 I don't know. 750 00:35:18,149 --> 00:35:19,981 Were you concerned about that? 751 00:35:20,051 --> 00:35:21,041 I was. 752 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,247 In fact you called Emily's school pretending to be her aunt. 753 00:35:23,688 --> 00:35:26,885 They told me she had a broken wrist, she'd fallen off her bike. 754 00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:27,948 Were you concerned? 755 00:35:28,026 --> 00:35:30,723 Of course, but I didn't have any proof Jacob was to blame. 756 00:35:30,795 --> 00:35:32,160 And if you did? 757 00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:34,665 I would have reported it to the authorities. 758 00:35:34,733 --> 00:35:38,499 But you knew that he was living with Sheryl and her children. 759 00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:42,473 Yes. I tried to reach his parole officer several times. 760 00:35:43,408 --> 00:35:45,502 Did you take your car and run him down? 761 00:35:46,411 --> 00:35:48,072 No, I didn't. 762 00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:52,083 So how do you explain his DNA on the bumper of your car? 763 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:54,551 I can't. I don't know how it got there. 764 00:35:54,619 --> 00:35:58,249 I keep my car in a garage. Any number of people have access to the key. 765 00:35:58,323 --> 00:35:59,415 Objection. Foundation. 766 00:36:00,425 --> 00:36:01,859 Sustained. 767 00:36:01,926 --> 00:36:03,724 GOIDELL: No more questions, Your Honor. 768 00:36:06,698 --> 00:36:08,462 We all saw the tape. 769 00:36:09,934 --> 00:36:11,834 And during that session, 770 00:36:12,303 --> 00:36:16,297 didn't he as much as tell you he was going to harm those children? 771 00:36:16,608 --> 00:36:18,474 I thought he was being provocative. 772 00:36:18,543 --> 00:36:19,704 Provocative? 773 00:36:19,778 --> 00:36:22,213 It's not uncommon for patients to want 774 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,443 to end the therapeutic relationship with a fight. 775 00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:28,319 As a way to get over their separation anxiety. 776 00:36:28,386 --> 00:36:32,482 But you called the school anyway to check on Emily. 777 00:36:32,557 --> 00:36:35,822 Checking with the school seemed unobtrusive and wise. 778 00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:38,454 Why didn't you call her mother? 779 00:36:38,530 --> 00:36:40,555 I didn't think she'd tell me the truth. 780 00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:43,658 When you were told that Emily had a wrist fracture, 781 00:36:43,735 --> 00:36:45,863 did you call her mother then? 782 00:36:46,371 --> 00:36:49,534 To tell her that you thought Lowenstein might be to blame? 783 00:36:49,607 --> 00:36:51,507 I didn't want to jump in too soon. 784 00:36:51,576 --> 00:36:53,567 When would it have been a good time to intervene? 785 00:36:53,645 --> 00:36:54,806 When she was in a coma? 786 00:36:54,879 --> 00:36:56,142 Objection. 787 00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:59,912 The truth is, you weren't really concerned about that little girl. 788 00:36:59,984 --> 00:37:02,419 I was planning to check on her every week. 789 00:37:02,487 --> 00:37:06,321 If Emily had other injuries, then I'd contact her mother. 790 00:37:06,391 --> 00:37:08,018 Tell her to make Lowenstein move out, 791 00:37:08,093 --> 00:37:09,891 or I'd report her to Social Services. 792 00:37:09,961 --> 00:37:12,453 I was trying to reach a parole officer. 793 00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:16,160 You could have gone the police, had them look into it. 794 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:19,431 Lowenstein was in violation of his parole. 795 00:37:20,305 --> 00:37:22,433 He would have been removed from that household. 796 00:37:22,507 --> 00:37:24,737 I was debating when to do that. 797 00:37:26,277 --> 00:37:28,006 You were waiting for the right moment to kill him. 798 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:29,069 Objection. 799 00:37:29,147 --> 00:37:30,137 JUDGE: Sustained. 800 00:37:30,215 --> 00:37:32,616 Didn't you stalk Jacob Lowenstein, 801 00:37:33,151 --> 00:37:35,142 follow him from his halfway house? 802 00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:37,552 Stake out his fianc?e's house? No. 803 00:37:38,156 --> 00:37:40,955 Follow him when he brought Emily to school? 804 00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:43,653 I didn't do that. I didn't even know where they lived. 805 00:37:43,728 --> 00:37:45,696 You knew which school Emily attended. 806 00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:48,426 All you had to do was follow her home. 807 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:50,969 She'd lead you directly to Lowenstein. 808 00:37:51,035 --> 00:37:52,799 Isn't that the simple truth? 809 00:37:52,871 --> 00:37:54,896 I didn't do that. I didn't. 810 00:37:56,908 --> 00:37:59,741 You never intended to call the police, did you? 811 00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,499 There are several things to remember about this case. 812 00:38:25,170 --> 00:38:27,764 Lots of people hated Jacob Lowenstein. 813 00:38:28,807 --> 00:38:31,208 And with good reason. He was a danger. 814 00:38:31,743 --> 00:38:34,144 To the community, to our children. 815 00:38:36,181 --> 00:38:39,583 Other people had access to Joyce Draper's car. 816 00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:42,681 There's reasonable doubt here, ladies and gentlemen. 817 00:38:42,754 --> 00:38:45,519 And that reasonable doubt is only strengthened 818 00:38:45,590 --> 00:38:48,184 when you consider who Joyce Draper is. 819 00:38:48,726 --> 00:38:50,524 A professional woman. 820 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:56,096 Someone who has devoted her entire life to helping other people. 821 00:38:57,435 --> 00:38:59,995 There are people who belong in prison, 822 00:39:00,071 --> 00:39:01,937 like Jacob Lowenstein, 823 00:39:03,474 --> 00:39:05,704 and there are people who don't. 824 00:39:08,646 --> 00:39:13,447 Joyce Draper does not belong in prison. 825 00:39:22,093 --> 00:39:24,460 It's frustrating, as a prosecutor, 826 00:39:24,529 --> 00:39:27,362 when you're sure someone's a murderer 827 00:39:27,432 --> 00:39:31,596 but the only thing you can convict him of is tax evasion or assault. 828 00:39:31,669 --> 00:39:34,639 It's frustrating. But it's fundamental. 829 00:39:34,706 --> 00:39:37,300 You can't punish a crime that you can't prove. 830 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:38,900 That's where the penal code 831 00:39:38,977 --> 00:39:41,571 meets the Declaration of Independence. 832 00:39:42,113 --> 00:39:45,708 What do you do as a cop if you're sure there's a bad man on your beat 833 00:39:45,783 --> 00:39:48,684 but you don't have a made case against him? 834 00:39:48,753 --> 00:39:52,314 You don't frame him, you can't harass him, you make the case. 835 00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:54,620 You definitely don't shoot him. 836 00:39:55,193 --> 00:39:59,130 So, what should you do as a citizen 837 00:39:59,998 --> 00:40:04,367 if you're sure a monstrous predator has been released from prison 838 00:40:04,435 --> 00:40:07,735 because they couldn't hold him anymore under the law? 839 00:40:08,273 --> 00:40:11,573 Write your own law? Run him down in the street? 840 00:40:11,976 --> 00:40:16,106 You make sure that the state enforces its rules. 841 00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:18,376 You get him for violating parole. 842 00:40:18,449 --> 00:40:20,349 The day he moves in with Sheryl, 843 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:22,216 you have the cops at the door. 844 00:40:22,287 --> 00:40:23,721 You make sure they watch him. 845 00:40:23,788 --> 00:40:28,419 And if they don't, if the system messes up, if he hurts someone, 846 00:40:29,193 --> 00:40:32,629 like Lowenstein could've hurt Sheryl's little girl, 847 00:40:32,697 --> 00:40:36,361 you sound the general alarm, you call the police and the papers. 848 00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:38,960 You go on TV. You make a scandal. 849 00:40:39,704 --> 00:40:41,798 Not a plan to commit murder. 850 00:40:43,408 --> 00:40:46,105 Joyce Draper is talented and brilliant. 851 00:40:47,145 --> 00:40:50,137 She might be the smartest person in this room. 852 00:40:50,214 --> 00:40:55,015 She's a sympathetic defendant, and Jacob Lowenstein was a repulsive victim. 853 00:40:55,086 --> 00:40:59,114 It doesn't matter. Joyce Draper murdered Jacob Lowenstein, 854 00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:02,820 deliberately, with malice a forethought. 855 00:41:02,894 --> 00:41:05,261 And there's no reasonable doubt about that whatsoever. 856 00:41:06,497 --> 00:41:11,025 She didn't even really try to explain his blood on her car 857 00:41:11,102 --> 00:41:15,096 because she's betting on you to let her get away with it. 858 00:41:16,507 --> 00:41:18,703 Citizens, no matter what their role, 859 00:41:18,776 --> 00:41:22,041 if it's a doctor, or a police officer, a prosecutor, 860 00:41:23,081 --> 00:41:24,446 or a juror, 861 00:41:26,784 --> 00:41:30,778 may not take the law into their own hands. 862 00:41:33,124 --> 00:41:35,718 Joyce Draper belongs in jail, 863 00:41:36,294 --> 00:41:40,094 long enough to make it plain that we as a society 864 00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:45,000 will not tolerate citizens choosing who lives and who dies. 865 00:41:47,972 --> 00:41:50,464 And it's up to you to put her there. 866 00:42:03,654 --> 00:42:05,144 Is this a record-breaker? 867 00:42:05,223 --> 00:42:06,748 No, but it is pretty fast. 868 00:42:06,824 --> 00:42:09,486 Thejury didn't have much choice, after her story unraveled 869 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,825 and you countered Goidell's wink-wink nudge-nudge to the jury. 870 00:42:12,897 --> 00:42:14,228 We'll see. 871 00:42:20,171 --> 00:42:21,434 All rise. 872 00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:33,547 Have you reached a verdict? 873 00:42:33,818 --> 00:42:35,582 We have, Your Honor. 874 00:42:40,858 --> 00:42:42,087 How say you? 875 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,586 On the charge of murder in the second degree, 876 00:42:45,663 --> 00:42:47,757 we find the defendant not guilty. 877 00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:18,186 They knew she was guilty but didn't want to hold her accountable. 878 00:43:18,262 --> 00:43:20,856 Goidell gave them a door to walk through and they took it. 879 00:43:20,932 --> 00:43:22,127 They don't think the system works 880 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,635 for guys like Lowenstein any more than we do. 881 00:43:24,702 --> 00:43:25,828 So what's the answer? 882 00:43:25,903 --> 00:43:27,564 Nobody has one. 883 00:43:27,638 --> 00:43:31,632 I think that's exactly why Joyce Draper's on her way home tonight. 884 00:43:31,682 --> 00:43:36,232 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 69620

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