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NARRATOR:
In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups,
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the police who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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So, what do you think?
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Excuse me.
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Burritos? Greek? There's
that Spanish place.
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El Faro's?
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The one on Carmine.
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Oh, I'm not in a
tapas state of mind.
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Hey, what about that Thai
joint we always go to?
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This is the problem with New York.
Too much choice.
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You know we should...
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Oh my God! What
was that?
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Hey!
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Call 911.
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Oh my God! Robby,
be careful!
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Oh my God!
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Dina!
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We need you to come down
and look at some pictures.
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Okay. But like we said...
Hey, you never know,
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something might jog your memory.
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Could they ID the shooter?
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Eh, too dark, it all
happened so fast, etcetera.
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Uh, he's about six feet,
dark hair, dark complexion.
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Black, white,
Hispanic? What?
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Italian, Greek,
Armenian, who knows?
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What about the witness? He
must've gotten a good look.
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Glen Fordyce. He's
visiting from Chicago,
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and that's about all I got.
He's still in shock.
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What do we know
about the dead guy?
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That's Josh Baker, fifty-three.
He's the proprietor.
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Oh, there's his
daughter right there.
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We're very sorry about your dad.
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Thank you. Listen, I'm
sorry to trouble you,
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but we're gonna need a list of
all the things that were stolen
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so we can check pawn
shops, fences, etcetera.
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I can do that for
you in the morning.
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He wouldn't have put up a fight.
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He always said just give
it up, it's not worth it.
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So why? Sometimes they
worry about witnesses.
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What about the
customer? How...
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He's on his way to surgery.
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We're actually hoping that
he can ID the shooter.
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Could you tell him
how sorry I am?
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Two or three to the chest.
Point blank.
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That's nine millimeter.
Any prints?
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Not a lot.
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It's closing time.
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Must've just finished wiping
the counter down back here.
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Who knows?
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He left a few pieces behind.
Maybe we'll get lucky.
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Yeah, and if our witness lives through
surgery, we'll all hit the lottery.
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This is a business trip,
and I finished early
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so I figured I'd stop and pick
something up for my wife.
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How's the owner?
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Mr. Baker didn't make it.
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See, that's what you get
for being a nice guy,
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going out of your way.
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What do you mean,
Mr. Fordyce?
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Well, he was closing up, and
he let me stay and browse
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'cause he knew I was heading
to Chicago in the morning.
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Then this punk...
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They don't make morphine
like they used to.
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Thanks.
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Anyway,
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this kid rings the buzzer.
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And since I was already
there, I guess he figured,
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what the hell, he'd help
out two prodigal husbands.
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Can you describe him?
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Early twenties.
Uh, skinny.
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Had curly dark hair,
uh, dark complexion.
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BRISCOE: Black? White?
Not black.
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Uh, hard to tell. Uh,
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Hispanic, Middle Eastern,
Gypsy maybe.
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He had some kind of accent.
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A foreign accent?
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I'm all for "your
huddled masses yearning
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"to breathe free" and all, but
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sometimes
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makes you wonder
who's watching the door.
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You think you could pick
his face out of a book?
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Whatever you need
I'm here for you.
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ED: Good. Thank you.
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Thanks.
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Now all we need is a pawnbroker
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who's as accommodating
as Mr. Baker was.
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Pawnbroker? Let's start in
the Village, move north.
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Oh, come on, man. Three hundred for
this old beat up no count guitar?
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Sorry, no discounts.
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You sure you don't have
something more exciting?
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Exciting?
Uh, like what?
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Oh, something, uh, special.
You know, private stock.
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Yeah, uh,
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I just got these babies in. Right off
the boat, if you know what I mean.
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Estate sale. What,
somebody died?
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Wow, now you're talking.
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You put these earrings together,
I'll give you a price.
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How about I take the whole lot?
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You buy in bulk and save.
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I didn't know the stuff
was hot, I swear.
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Yeah, I didn't know either. Let's
consult with an expert. Ed.
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Want to take a look at these?
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Oh, crap, man. What are you
guys, Starsky and Hutch?
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Ding, ding.
We got a match.
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Looks like you're closed
for the day, pal.
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Well, what's the pawnbroker
have to say for himself?
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"I never saw
him before."
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Of course. His log book?
Illegible.
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Isn't it always?
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And I'll bet he neglected
to ask for ID.
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Completely slipped his mind.
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But he did give us the same
description as Fordyce.
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Dark curly hair, skinny,
six foot, accent.
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Hey, we got a hit on a print from the
store off a bracelet he left behind.
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Uh, Eddie Travandze. Twenty-eight,
six foot, dark hair, brown eyes.
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BCI's sending over a photo.
And what's claim to fame?
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Oh, B and E, possession
of burglary tools.
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He did eighteen months upstate.
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Travandze? What is that?
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Says here he's from Georgia.
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So his foreign accent
was southern?
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No, Georgia, like in Russia.
You know, Soviet Union.
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Is there a last known?
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Yeah, 125 Delancey.
See ya.
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When's the last time you saw
your husband? Who knows?
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He left. Doesn't
live here no more.
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Yeah? Why are all his clothes
still in the closet?
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I told you, he left.
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Girlfriend floozy. I tell
him to get the hell out,
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or else or else I do like Mrs.
Bobbitt. Snip, snip.
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This floozy, you know
where we can find her?
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No ideas.
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Officer would you mind sitting here
with Mrs. Travandze for a while?
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Disgusting.
Worse than KGB.
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Pigs!
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Get the hell out!
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Don't you love
innocent bystanders?
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Police!
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I don't know nothing.
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Actually, we'll be
the judge of that.
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I'm outta work as it is.
I don't need trouble.
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We're here to prevent
trouble, Mr?
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Yeats.
Timmy Yeats.
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I don't need this.
I really don't.
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Yeah, we just got a few
questions about Mr. Travandze.
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Who'd he kill? Now, why
would you say that?
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Them Georgians.
Worse than Ukes.
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They're a crazy breed,
know what I'm saying'?
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Screaming all the time
like there's no tomorrow.
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What, screaming at each other?
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Him at her. Her at him.
Both of 'em at me.
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You know any of his friends?
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Me? Nah.
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All right, man, so when we see
Eddie, we'll give him your regards.
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Okay.
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Okay. There's this bar
in the East Village.
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Eddie dragged me there
on a couple of occasions
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for some cheap vodka called Borka's.
Borzoi's, something.
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On St. Mark's.
Real dump.
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When he's not beating the wife,
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he's down there swapping lies
with the other Cossacks.
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I know the place.
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Edward Travandze?
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Never heard of him.
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That was a rhetorical
question, smart ass.
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Go away. You're under arrest.
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For what? Armed
robbery and murder.
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Maybe he doesn't
understand English, Ed.
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You got wrong guy.
Stand up.
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Go to hell.
What do you want?
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BRISCOE: Hey, any of you guys
want to join your friend,
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there's plenty
of room in Rikers.
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Guess they understood that.
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Yeah, Rikers is Rikers
in any language.
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You've probably
heard this before, too.
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You have the right
to remain silent.
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Anything you say can and will be
used against you in a court of law.
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Do svidaniya.
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That's him.
Number four.
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You're positive?
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Yep, he's the one who sold me the stuff.
Definitely.
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ED: Thank you,
Mr. Krakow.
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Can I go, uh, home now?
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Yeah, we're gonna have
an officer escort you.
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Uh, we have a a bargain, right?
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Now, that sounds interesting.
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Look, I'm a stand up guy. I told you
I'd come in pick the guy out, so...
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And what did they promise you?
A hot cup of coffee.
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Officer.
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If that's who you're hanging your case
on, you're wasting everyone's time.
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If you don't have anything
better than a witness
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with a lot to gain by perjuring
himself, my work here is done.
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Sorry I'm late.
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It's easier to get through customs
than check out of a hospital.
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I'm sorry,
Mr. Finnerty.
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It looks like you might have to
put in a couple of more hours
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on behalf of your client.
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Yeah, your client used Mr.
Fordyce for target practice.
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Detective Briscoe says you have
fingerprints and another witness?
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There's no such thing
as too much evidence.
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Good. I wouldn't want
this mutt to get away.
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Hey! Save it for the
courtroom, Counselor.
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Let's get this over with.
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Take your time, now.
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No need.
Number four.
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I'll never forget that
face as long as I live.
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Docket number 274691.
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People v. Edward Travandze. Charges
are murder in the first degree,
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attempted murder in the first degree,
robbery in the first degree.
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That's a pretty good trifecta, Mr.
Travandze.
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JUDGE: What've you got
to say for yourself?
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You got the wrong guy.
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I assume that's a not guilty.
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Not at all guilty.
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JUDGE: That's a first.
Counselor?
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The defendant killed one
man and wounded another
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during the course of an armed
robbery, and as such...
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You had me at "killed," Ms.
Southerlyn.
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Defendant's remanded
without bail. Next.
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I figure murder two, assault
one, served concurrently.
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Feeling generous this
morning, are we?
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His lawyer's bringing coffee.
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He's been like that
for twenty minutes.
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Maybe Travandze likes
vodka for breakfast.
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Do what I say, okay?
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(CURSING IN RUSSIAN) I said no.
Okay? No plea bargain.
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Don't mind us.
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I'm sorry to waste your time.
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It seems my client is hell bent
on having his day in court.
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You explained the consequences
of a guilty verdict?
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Needle and all.
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I go to prison one time.
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I not go back. Never.
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I don't think that's an issue here, Mr.
Travandze.
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Your choice is between life in
prison or the death penalty.
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Screw you!
It wasn't me!
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You were ID'd by the pawnbroker
and the other customer you shot.
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Mistaken identity.
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I got jewels from guy in bar.
He sold to me.
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I don't know where he get from.
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Please don't insult my intelligence
with a fairy tale like that.
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Last time I do nothing wrong,
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son of bitch lawyer
says take deal.
246
00:12:07,226 --> 00:12:09,126
Not again.
I know rights.
247
00:12:09,195 --> 00:12:12,790
Most people looking at this kind of
evidence would take a deal and run.
248
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I take chances in court instead.
249
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I believe in jury system.
250
00:12:22,408 --> 00:12:24,569
This guy was waiting
outside my store
251
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when I came in that morning, uh, in a
real hurry to sell me some jewelry.
252
00:12:29,482 --> 00:12:30,642
I see.
253
00:12:31,617 --> 00:12:33,141
Did you buy it?
KRAKOW: Yeah.
254
00:12:33,652 --> 00:12:35,372
KRAKOW: Yeah, of course.
That's my business.
255
00:12:36,856 --> 00:12:38,416
And the person who
sold you this jewelry,
256
00:12:38,457 --> 00:12:40,152
do you see him in
the courtroom today?
257
00:12:40,426 --> 00:12:42,724
Yeah. He's over there.
The, uh, defendant.
258
00:12:44,830 --> 00:12:50,268
These items which have already been
labeled People's two through eleven
259
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are they the pieces that you
bought from the defendant?
260
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KRAKOW: Yeah. Yeah,
that's them.
261
00:13:02,548 --> 00:13:04,277
How much did you
pay for the lot?
262
00:13:05,551 --> 00:13:07,781
Five hundred and fifty
dollars, cash.
263
00:13:09,321 --> 00:13:10,321
Thank you.
264
00:13:19,698 --> 00:13:22,895
You knew that these
pieces were stolen?
265
00:13:25,805 --> 00:13:28,171
I run my business,
266
00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:30,999
like the Army.
Don't ask, don't tell.
267
00:13:32,478 --> 00:13:34,912
In fact, the District
Attorney indicted you for
268
00:13:35,548 --> 00:13:38,449
receiving stolen property in
connection with this case,
269
00:13:38,517 --> 00:13:39,517
didn't he?
270
00:13:39,585 --> 00:13:42,554
I have, charges pending, yeah.
271
00:13:43,155 --> 00:13:46,355
FINNERTY: Did they promise to drop those
charges if you testify against my client?
272
00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,484
No, they didn't.
273
00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:53,465
But you have hopes, don't
you, if you cooperate?
274
00:13:53,532 --> 00:13:54,624
Objection.
275
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FINNERTY: Withdrawn.
276
00:13:58,904 --> 00:14:01,702
Dad...
I mean, my father
277
00:14:02,174 --> 00:14:06,508
kept careful records of every piece of
inventory in the store for insurance.
278
00:14:06,979 --> 00:14:11,177
Are any of the items labeled People's two
through eleven listed in that ledger?
279
00:14:11,317 --> 00:14:12,875
Uh, all of them.
280
00:14:13,719 --> 00:14:15,983
The pearl necklace.
281
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The gold bracelet.
282
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(SOBBING)
283
00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,529
Do you know what
all this is worth?
284
00:14:31,036 --> 00:14:34,938
That bastard killed my father for
maybe five thousand dollars.
285
00:14:43,415 --> 00:14:45,713
I'm very sorry for
your loss, Ms. Baker.
286
00:14:45,951 --> 00:14:46,951
Thank you.
287
00:14:51,323 --> 00:14:56,158
You said exhibits two through eleven
were worth collectively about
288
00:14:57,162 --> 00:14:58,789
five thousand dollars.
Is that correct?
289
00:14:59,064 --> 00:15:00,064
About.
290
00:15:00,132 --> 00:15:03,829
So it's not what you'd call
top of the line jewelry.
291
00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:07,030
Isn't it highly unlikely that your
father's the only jeweler in town
292
00:15:07,106 --> 00:15:08,506
who would sell
these kind of pieces?
293
00:15:08,540 --> 00:15:10,531
I know what you're doing.
Ms. Baker?
294
00:15:11,176 --> 00:15:13,940
Those pieces came
from my father's store.
295
00:15:14,146 --> 00:15:16,979
Please, Ms. Baker
answer the question.
296
00:15:19,451 --> 00:15:23,148
No. Other people sell
this kind ofjewelry, too.
297
00:15:24,623 --> 00:15:25,623
Thank you.
298
00:15:32,531 --> 00:15:34,192
Next witness, Mr. McCoy.
299
00:15:34,667 --> 00:15:35,929
Approach, Your Honor.
300
00:15:40,005 --> 00:15:41,666
The People request
a recess, Your Honor.
301
00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:43,799
What seems to be the problem, Mr.
McCoy?
302
00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:47,106
Our final witness Mr. Glen Fordyce,
is coming in from Chicago.
303
00:15:47,179 --> 00:15:48,441
His plane must've been delayed.
304
00:15:48,514 --> 00:15:49,981
Is he essential to your case?
305
00:15:50,115 --> 00:15:51,795
Crucial, Your Honor.
Victim and eyewitness.
306
00:15:51,817 --> 00:15:53,717
My client is entitled
to a speedy trial.
307
00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:55,048
Relax, Mr. Finnerty.
308
00:15:55,187 --> 00:15:58,782
I'll see everybody bright-eyed and
bushy-tailed tomorrow morning.
309
00:15:59,525 --> 00:16:00,525
Yes, Your Honor.
310
00:16:03,228 --> 00:16:07,028
Jack. Fordyce never
got on the plane.
311
00:16:07,266 --> 00:16:09,427
Well, get him on the red-eye. We
need him here tomorrow morning.
312
00:16:09,501 --> 00:16:10,763
I can't. He's gone.
313
00:16:10,836 --> 00:16:12,667
What do you mean, gone?
He called his office,
314
00:16:12,738 --> 00:16:14,433
said he needed to take
some time off.
315
00:16:14,506 --> 00:16:16,266
That he and his wife were
going on a car trip.
316
00:16:16,608 --> 00:16:18,576
A car trip?
Unbelievable.
317
00:16:18,944 --> 00:16:21,276
Well, they've gotta eat and sleep.
Run their credit cards.
318
00:16:21,347 --> 00:16:23,110
I did. So far, they
haven't used them.
319
00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:27,013
And there's something else. Travandze's
uncle's doing life in Otisville.
320
00:16:27,386 --> 00:16:28,386
The Russian mob.
321
00:16:30,589 --> 00:16:32,250
What do you mean, disappeared?
322
00:16:33,025 --> 00:16:34,424
Ask defense counsel.
323
00:16:34,493 --> 00:16:36,461
Are you implying I had
something to do with this?
324
00:16:36,528 --> 00:16:39,019
I'm not implying anything,
I'm saying it outright.
325
00:16:39,732 --> 00:16:42,758
You, your client, somebody
got to my witness.
326
00:16:42,835 --> 00:16:45,736
No wonder Mr. Travandze has
such faith in the jury system.
327
00:16:45,804 --> 00:16:47,362
You have proof
of this, Counselor?
328
00:16:47,439 --> 00:16:49,464
If something's happened
to Mr. Fordyce,
329
00:16:50,075 --> 00:16:51,975
if you had anything
to do with it,
330
00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:55,040
you'll be looking at conspiracy
to commit murder charges,
331
00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,077
in addition to witness
tampering.
332
00:16:57,149 --> 00:16:59,811
You just better hope that Mr.
Fordyce is still alive and well.
333
00:17:00,386 --> 00:17:02,547
JACK: I need two weeks, Your Honor.
So do I.
334
00:17:02,621 --> 00:17:03,849
In Vermont.
335
00:17:04,456 --> 00:17:06,287
Do you have any more witnesses?
336
00:17:06,458 --> 00:17:07,550
No, Your Honor.
337
00:17:07,626 --> 00:17:11,289
Fine. Then let's see if we can put
an end to this proceeding ASAP.
338
00:17:11,363 --> 00:17:12,557
This is ridiculous.
339
00:17:12,631 --> 00:17:15,759
Your witness. Your job
to put him on the stand.
340
00:17:16,802 --> 00:17:20,067
Go ahead, Mr. McCoy. Charge
me with conspiracy, too.
341
00:17:30,816 --> 00:17:32,306
JUDGE: Have you reached
a verdict?
342
00:17:32,418 --> 00:17:33,783
We have.
343
00:17:33,852 --> 00:17:35,292
On the first count
of the indictment,
344
00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,288
murder in the first degree,
how do you find?
345
00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:40,582
We find the defendant,
not guilty.
346
00:17:41,527 --> 00:17:43,461
On the second count
of the indictment,
347
00:17:43,595 --> 00:17:46,325
attempt to commit murder in the
first degree, how do you find?
348
00:17:46,598 --> 00:17:48,998
We find the defendant,
not guilty.
349
00:17:49,435 --> 00:17:51,300
On the third count
of the indictment,
350
00:17:51,403 --> 00:17:53,428
robbery in the first degree,
how do you find?
351
00:17:53,806 --> 00:17:56,468
We find the defendant,
not guilty.
352
00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:08,213
You don't seriously
suspect the Russian mob?
353
00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:10,981
A key witness doesn't just
conveniently disappear Arthur.
354
00:18:11,290 --> 00:18:14,623
Especially one who has a chance to put
the man who shot him behind bars.
355
00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:16,852
What'd you find out?
356
00:18:16,962 --> 00:18:19,482
The Chicago police pulled Fordyce's
LUDs, searched his apartment.
357
00:18:19,531 --> 00:18:21,795
His clothes, his wife's
clothes, all gone.
358
00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:24,630
Maybe your boy just got a
bad case of stage fright.
359
00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:28,297
I don't think so. His prints in his
apartment matched someone named Levi March.
360
00:18:28,407 --> 00:18:30,875
He has a record. For
killing Abby Sherman.
361
00:18:31,176 --> 00:18:32,268
You know who he is?
362
00:18:32,344 --> 00:18:34,224
You think that's possible
after all these years?
363
00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:37,013
Why not? Everybody's
gotta be somewhere.
364
00:18:38,016 --> 00:18:40,541
What are we talking about?
Glen Fordyce is The Griffin.
365
00:18:41,653 --> 00:18:46,090
Well, if he is The Griffin, he sure as hell
doesn't want his kisser in a courtroom.
366
00:18:46,558 --> 00:18:47,991
Why are you calling him
The Griffin?
367
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,526
That's what he called
himself, The Griffin.
368
00:18:51,263 --> 00:18:54,460
A mythical beast.
Half dragon, half lion.
369
00:18:56,201 --> 00:18:57,600
Levi March.
370
00:18:58,303 --> 00:19:02,103
Gadfly, media maven, ladies'
man extraordinaire.
371
00:19:02,307 --> 00:19:05,936
Who skipped bail after murdering
his girlfriend twenty years ago.
372
00:19:12,184 --> 00:19:14,880
BRISCOE: In 1983, The Griffin
was front page news.
373
00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:16,954
Every era has its gurus.
374
00:19:17,289 --> 00:19:20,781
So this is all that we have. He
killed his girlfriend, Abby Sherman,
375
00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:23,257
beat her to death with a blunt object.
Allegedly.
376
00:19:23,395 --> 00:19:25,386
Oh, he did it.
The jury said so.
377
00:19:25,464 --> 00:19:26,590
I thought he skipped bail.
378
00:19:26,899 --> 00:19:29,299
He did. He was
tried in absentia.
379
00:19:29,635 --> 00:19:31,102
That doesn't happen
often, does it?
380
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:32,931
Well, the Sherman family
had connections.
381
00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:35,633
They knew a sympathetic judge that they
thought would give them some closure.
382
00:19:35,707 --> 00:19:39,006
Well, shouldn't you be turning
this over to Cold Cases?
383
00:19:39,211 --> 00:19:41,441
Well, Branch figures since
you actually met the man.
384
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,580
Always thinking
of others, your boss.
385
00:19:43,749 --> 00:19:46,115
The original detective on
the case was Will Ashman.
386
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:47,777
He retired in '94.
387
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,119
Will Ashman?
388
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:52,851
Oh, you're gonna love this one.
389
00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:57,260
March. Supposed to be a
real lady-killer, right?
390
00:19:57,329 --> 00:20:00,298
Heh. What the broads saw in that
pudgy little son of a bitch,
391
00:20:00,365 --> 00:20:01,593
I'll never know.
392
00:20:02,267 --> 00:20:03,666
That's what makes 'em
broads, right, Lennie.
393
00:20:03,936 --> 00:20:05,130
I'm with you, Will.
394
00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:06,603
So this girl that March killed?
395
00:20:06,672 --> 00:20:08,799
Oh, nice kid. Kinda
your girl next door.
396
00:20:09,141 --> 00:20:10,301
Cuter than a bug's ear.
397
00:20:10,475 --> 00:20:12,739
Lennie knows the type.
I used to.
398
00:20:12,978 --> 00:20:15,208
I don't know what she was doing
with a creep like March.
399
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,374
Finally, she gets fed up. Tells
him she's dumping him, blah-blah.
400
00:20:18,850 --> 00:20:22,377
He flips. Bashes her head
in with a champagne bottle,
401
00:20:22,454 --> 00:20:25,548
bricks up her bod behind the
fireplace in his apartment.
402
00:20:26,191 --> 00:20:28,853
Place smells worse than
a Cambodian kitchen.
403
00:20:30,562 --> 00:20:32,553
Finally, the landlord
calls the cops.
404
00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:35,291
So why would a judge let a
man like that out on bail?
405
00:20:35,434 --> 00:20:37,766
It's hard to say no when you
ask for a cool mil up front
406
00:20:37,836 --> 00:20:39,516
and they write you out
a check on the spot.
407
00:20:39,638 --> 00:20:41,333
I didn't know March
had that kind of money.
408
00:20:41,406 --> 00:20:44,034
Nah, his old man. Levi never
worked a day in his life.
409
00:20:44,543 --> 00:20:46,636
And that's the last we hear of
him until about ten years ago.
410
00:20:46,712 --> 00:20:50,079
We get this anonymous tip that he's shacked
up with some local talent up in Montreal.
411
00:20:50,148 --> 00:20:51,148
So,
412
00:20:52,517 --> 00:20:56,214
we strap on our snowshoes, go up there, make
nice with the Mounties, raid the place.
413
00:20:56,622 --> 00:20:59,523
Miss the little nudnik
by a nose hair.
414
00:21:03,729 --> 00:21:06,027
Yeah, Will's what
you call old school.
415
00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:07,258
You mean
prehistoric. Hello.
416
00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:09,931
But entertaining, in a
Neanderthal sort of way.
417
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:12,567
Hey, Fordyce has
a '91 Chevy Camaro.
418
00:21:12,771 --> 00:21:15,205
A little extra horsepower
helps when you're on the run.
419
00:21:15,374 --> 00:21:17,899
Yeah, spell that.
All right, cool.
420
00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:20,369
It was registered
under Mr. And Mrs. Fordyce,
421
00:21:20,445 --> 00:21:23,710
but the wife's driver's license has
the name Anne-Marie Gautreaux.
422
00:21:24,349 --> 00:21:27,182
And you're thinking she's the
local talent from Montreal?
423
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,616
Montreal faxed us the driver's
license photos of all 145
424
00:21:32,691 --> 00:21:35,023
Anne-Marie Gautreauxs
in the province.
425
00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:37,152
A Chicago neighbor picked one as Mrs.
Fordyce.
426
00:21:37,229 --> 00:21:40,027
Well, that doesn't necessarily
mean they've gone back to Canada.
427
00:21:40,098 --> 00:21:43,192
On the other hand they left in a hurry
without any time to make plans.
428
00:21:43,268 --> 00:21:44,628
They might've
looked up her family.
429
00:21:44,670 --> 00:21:47,571
And all the cash they had was the couple
of hundred they got from the ATM.
430
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,270
I know where my kid comes
when she's running on empty.
431
00:21:51,176 --> 00:21:52,176
Au revoir.
432
00:21:55,681 --> 00:21:57,876
I take it you still haven't
located Monsieur March.
433
00:21:57,949 --> 00:21:59,849
Well, until a few days
ago they were living
434
00:21:59,918 --> 00:22:02,045
in Chicago under
the name Fordyce.
435
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:03,120
And he disappeared?
436
00:22:03,188 --> 00:22:05,188
We're thinking maybe he paid
a visit to his in-laws.
437
00:22:05,290 --> 00:22:08,191
That'd be difficult. They were killed six
months ago in an automobile accident.
438
00:22:08,260 --> 00:22:11,525
Well, living under an assumed identity
and not able to get in touch,
439
00:22:11,596 --> 00:22:14,190
there's a chance Anne-Marie
didn't hear about her folks.
440
00:22:14,399 --> 00:22:16,424
She have any other family?
Sister.
441
00:22:18,804 --> 00:22:20,431
She was here the day
before yesterday.
442
00:22:20,639 --> 00:22:22,402
Was she alone?
Yeah. All alone.
443
00:22:22,841 --> 00:22:24,433
Did she say
where her husband is?
444
00:22:24,643 --> 00:22:27,407
We don't talk about him. He's
not welcome in this house.
445
00:22:27,646 --> 00:22:29,477
You know where she is now? No.
446
00:22:29,948 --> 00:22:31,245
No, I swear.
447
00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:33,416
Did she say where she was going?
448
00:22:33,485 --> 00:22:36,682
When she left she was very upset.
About what?
449
00:22:37,789 --> 00:22:40,485
Our parents.
She didn't know.
450
00:22:41,426 --> 00:22:43,519
I had no way to reach her.
She was...
451
00:22:45,597 --> 00:22:46,859
She still in Montreal?
452
00:22:48,667 --> 00:22:50,430
I think so, oui.
453
00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:52,998
As far as I know.
454
00:22:56,375 --> 00:23:00,106
If you should hear from Anne-Marie,
if she gets tired of running,
455
00:23:00,812 --> 00:23:02,109
ask her to give us a call.
456
00:23:04,416 --> 00:23:06,714
We can call New York
and make a deal.
457
00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:10,821
She won't be prosecuted.
458
00:23:19,631 --> 00:23:21,462
Mademoiselle Gautreaux?
Oui.
459
00:23:21,533 --> 00:23:23,364
Gabrielle Simone,
Anne-Marie's attorney.
460
00:23:23,435 --> 00:23:26,404
Oh, I might've known. A lawyer's
a lawyer anywhere in the world.
461
00:23:26,471 --> 00:23:28,200
And so's a cop. Let's
cut to the chase.
462
00:23:28,573 --> 00:23:30,768
Since Anne-Marie is totally
innocent of any crime...
463
00:23:30,842 --> 00:23:32,742
Let's not forget about
harboring a fugitive.
464
00:23:32,811 --> 00:23:34,335
Oh, I get it.
You're the straight man.
465
00:23:34,479 --> 00:23:36,174
My sister said that I wouldn't
be charged with anything.
466
00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:38,408
ED: And you won't, if you tell
us where your husband is.
467
00:23:39,618 --> 00:23:40,778
I don't know If I can do this.
468
00:23:40,786 --> 00:23:43,414
He's not getting away this time, Mrs.
Fordyce.
469
00:23:43,488 --> 00:23:45,979
It's a lot harder to cross
borders than it used to be.
470
00:23:46,057 --> 00:23:48,297
ED: It would be better for him
if you tell us where he is.
471
00:23:48,326 --> 00:23:50,089
Otherwise, some other
cops get to him...
472
00:23:50,328 --> 00:23:53,126
You never know what could happen.
He could wind up dead.
473
00:23:56,201 --> 00:23:58,669
(WHISPERING IN FRENCH)
474
00:24:01,273 --> 00:24:04,071
Anne-Marie will tell you where her
husband is if you give her immunity.
475
00:24:04,576 --> 00:24:08,672
Plus she won't testify against him.
Not under any circumstances.
476
00:24:11,416 --> 00:24:13,111
It's not a problem.
We want it in writing
477
00:24:13,385 --> 00:24:14,545
from the District Attorney.
478
00:24:16,688 --> 00:24:17,688
You can get that.
479
00:24:19,157 --> 00:24:20,283
So when are you due?
480
00:24:21,326 --> 00:24:22,326
Three months.
481
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:25,123
Is that why you decided to give
it up, after all these years?
482
00:24:27,199 --> 00:24:28,223
It's too hard.
483
00:24:29,568 --> 00:24:30,899
I love Glen, but
484
00:24:32,404 --> 00:24:34,929
I'm tired. This is
no way to live.
485
00:24:37,008 --> 00:24:39,568
My sister got married.
I missed the wedding.
486
00:24:40,312 --> 00:24:41,745
She's got two kids
I've never met.
487
00:24:43,949 --> 00:24:45,576
My parents died,
488
00:24:46,518 --> 00:24:47,849
and I didn't even know.
489
00:24:50,088 --> 00:24:51,350
I missed their funeral.
490
00:24:57,729 --> 00:25:00,289
I'm not a criminal. I shouldn't
have to live like one.
491
00:25:18,283 --> 00:25:20,683
How do you say "we're screwed" in French?
(CHATTERING ON WALKIE-TALKIE)
492
00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:22,854
I guess that's how. He's
on the fire escape.
493
00:25:27,792 --> 00:25:30,590
Oh, I thought
Griffins could fly.
494
00:25:32,631 --> 00:25:33,757
You want to do the honors?
495
00:25:33,832 --> 00:25:34,856
Avec plaisir.
496
00:25:36,902 --> 00:25:39,200
March is on a plane back
to New York as we speak.
497
00:25:39,838 --> 00:25:41,897
I've already picked out a
room for him at Attica.
498
00:25:42,774 --> 00:25:44,334
Wait a minute. Aren't
we skipping a step?
499
00:25:44,576 --> 00:25:46,908
March was tried
and convicted, Serena.
500
00:25:47,078 --> 00:25:48,943
I just assumed there'd
be a new trial.
501
00:25:50,849 --> 00:25:51,907
Yep.
502
00:25:52,651 --> 00:25:55,245
I thought this office was serious
about due process, Jack.
503
00:25:55,353 --> 00:25:58,220
And they are. He was represented
by very able counsel.
504
00:25:58,657 --> 00:26:01,057
Who is sitting in the
conference room as we speak.
505
00:26:03,662 --> 00:26:06,460
Two words, kangaroo court.
506
00:26:06,531 --> 00:26:08,431
Evidence was presented.
Witnesses testified.
507
00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:11,092
You represented
him, if memory serves.
508
00:26:11,169 --> 00:26:13,160
I was young.
I was naive.
509
00:26:13,805 --> 00:26:14,965
And now?
510
00:26:15,206 --> 00:26:17,834
I'm old enough to realize
just how naive I was
511
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:20,343
for letting the state
proceed with that farce.
512
00:26:20,512 --> 00:26:22,707
This is a municipal
building, Marvin.
513
00:26:23,281 --> 00:26:24,771
Heil McCoy.
514
00:26:26,251 --> 00:26:29,311
So what do you say
we call it man two.
515
00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:31,556
Time served?
What time?
516
00:26:31,823 --> 00:26:35,486
Twenty years, Levi had to
deny his own existence.
517
00:26:35,860 --> 00:26:37,191
He could have turned himself in.
518
00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:38,961
For something he didn't do.
519
00:26:39,497 --> 00:26:40,862
Heil to you, too.
520
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:43,099
Murder two.
Twenty-five.
521
00:26:43,468 --> 00:26:46,596
He's fifty-five years old.
That's a life sentence.
522
00:26:46,671 --> 00:26:49,333
And Abby Sherman would be
forty-five if she'd lived.
523
00:26:49,741 --> 00:26:51,606
If Levi March hadn't killed her.
524
00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:55,440
You know, I was hoping
you'd take this position.
525
00:26:56,314 --> 00:26:59,078
Now I get to correct the mistake
I made twenty years ago.
526
00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:01,775
What's done cannot be
undone, Marvin.
527
00:27:01,853 --> 00:27:03,218
Oh, yes it can.
528
00:27:03,421 --> 00:27:05,184
That's what appellate
courts are for.
529
00:27:12,998 --> 00:27:16,764
It is well established that in all
criminal proceedings, the accused
530
00:27:16,835 --> 00:27:19,497
has the right, guaranteed
by the Sixth Amendment,
531
00:27:19,571 --> 00:27:23,735
to be, and I quote, "Confronted
with the witnesses against him."
532
00:27:24,309 --> 00:27:27,506
Similarly the due process clause
of the Fourteenth Amendment
533
00:27:27,779 --> 00:27:30,304
implicitly guarantees
a defendant
534
00:27:30,382 --> 00:27:32,646
the right to a fair
and impartial trial.
535
00:27:32,817 --> 00:27:36,583
That's all very interesting, but
you're appealing a decision
536
00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,247
rendered over twenty years ago.
537
00:27:38,857 --> 00:27:41,758
The last I looked, this state
required notice of appeal
538
00:27:41,826 --> 00:27:43,657
within sixty days of a verdict.
539
00:27:43,762 --> 00:27:45,354
With all due respect,
Your Honor,
540
00:27:45,697 --> 00:27:47,028
cart before the horse.
541
00:27:47,198 --> 00:27:49,962
If the original trial
was unconstitutional
542
00:27:50,035 --> 00:27:51,866
there was no verdict.
543
00:27:51,936 --> 00:27:53,801
Always the clever one,
Mr. Silverman.
544
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,400
Thank you, Your Honors.
545
00:27:58,410 --> 00:28:01,004
JACK: In "Davis v. Alaska,"
the Supreme Court held
546
00:28:01,379 --> 00:28:03,677
that the essence of the
right of confrontation
547
00:28:03,748 --> 00:28:05,340
was the right
to cross-examine.
548
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:08,617
That right was certainly
not denied the defendant,
549
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:12,919
in that he was represented more than
competently by present counsel.
550
00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:14,316
Within limits.
551
00:28:14,392 --> 00:28:16,952
He can't very well advise
counsel on his own defense
552
00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:18,290
when he's not in the courtroom.
553
00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:20,625
Mr. March, waived his
right to advise counsel
554
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:22,929
when he failed
to turn up for his trial.
555
00:28:23,168 --> 00:28:26,934
Doesn't "Crosby v. United States"
preclude trial in absentia
556
00:28:27,005 --> 00:28:29,906
when the defendant flees
before proceedings commence?
557
00:28:30,008 --> 00:28:34,172
Mr. March was in custody under indictment
at the time he fled the jurisdiction.
558
00:28:34,512 --> 00:28:37,606
It was his choice
not to participate
559
00:28:37,682 --> 00:28:39,582
in subsequent legal proceedings.
560
00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:42,744
Nobody at the time,
including counsel, objected.
561
00:28:43,655 --> 00:28:47,318
The People should not be penalized
now, twenty years later.
562
00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:53,892
How could you have lost?
He killed my sister.
563
00:28:54,099 --> 00:28:55,657
We already proved it in court.
564
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:58,027
Appellate courts look at
the law, Mrs. Carmody,
565
00:28:58,103 --> 00:28:59,570
and not the people it effects.
566
00:28:59,671 --> 00:29:02,504
This has been going
on for twenty years.
567
00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:05,907
It ruined my family. It
killed my parents, literally.
568
00:29:06,811 --> 00:29:09,780
We convicted him once, I'm
confident we'll convict him again.
569
00:29:13,218 --> 00:29:14,480
I hope so.
570
00:29:15,553 --> 00:29:16,679
Good night.
571
00:29:17,288 --> 00:29:18,288
Bye.
572
00:29:23,661 --> 00:29:25,390
You that sanguine?
Of course not.
573
00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:29,029
A twenty-year-old case. Evidence
goes astray, witnesses die.
574
00:29:30,535 --> 00:29:32,765
You wouldn't want it to
be too easy, would you?
575
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:40,237
Detective Ashman?
576
00:29:40,311 --> 00:29:42,006
Remembers it like it was
yesterday.
577
00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:45,609
Mr. And Mrs. Sherman.
Both dead.
578
00:29:45,817 --> 00:29:48,877
Thomas Styner? A neighbor.
He died last year.
579
00:29:49,254 --> 00:29:52,382
Trish Tippens? Abby
Sherman's best friend.
580
00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:55,310
She moved to Europe after the first trial.
You know, it's a shame too.
581
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,051
Because Mrs. Sherman testified
that Abby told her that
582
00:29:58,129 --> 00:30:00,063
she was going to leave
Levi because she came home
583
00:30:00,131 --> 00:30:01,723
and found him in bed
with her friend, Trish.
584
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,028
There was a quote.
585
00:30:03,434 --> 00:30:06,631
"I'm leaving him, although I'm
afraid he might kill me if I do."
586
00:30:06,938 --> 00:30:10,101
There's your motive. We'll read Mrs.
Sherman's testimony into evidence.
587
00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:13,167
And between that, the detective's
testimony and forensics,
588
00:30:13,278 --> 00:30:16,338
Levi March will go to prison
for the rest of his life.
589
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,485
I was just a kid when
Abby moved in with Levi.
590
00:30:24,923 --> 00:30:26,857
What did you family
think of Mr. March?
591
00:30:27,192 --> 00:30:29,990
He was okay. He and my
dad would talk politics.
592
00:30:30,728 --> 00:30:31,990
Levi was always on the news,
593
00:30:32,063 --> 00:30:33,928
so it was like we had a
celebrity in the family.
594
00:30:34,532 --> 00:30:36,212
JACK: Was your sister
happy with Mr. March?
595
00:30:36,734 --> 00:30:37,894
At first.
596
00:30:38,136 --> 00:30:40,468
Then I started to notice
how he'd boss her around.
597
00:30:40,905 --> 00:30:42,825
At a restaurant, he would
tell her what to order.
598
00:30:43,241 --> 00:30:45,402
He made her wear certain
clothes, things like that.
599
00:30:45,476 --> 00:30:46,476
He was a control freak.
600
00:30:46,544 --> 00:30:47,943
JACK: Did she ever complain?
601
00:30:49,948 --> 00:30:53,679
It was a family tradition to go skating
in Central Park, every New Year's Day.
602
00:30:54,118 --> 00:30:56,109
Until Abby met Levi, that is.
603
00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:58,421
That year, Levi
wouldn't let Abby go.
604
00:30:58,923 --> 00:31:02,120
He didn't know how to skate, so
that was it, Abby couldn't go.
605
00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:05,390
So after we were done, we
dropped by their apartment.
606
00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:07,798
Abby was alone.
She was crying.
607
00:31:08,466 --> 00:31:09,831
Did she tell you why?
608
00:31:11,336 --> 00:31:14,032
My dad took me for a walk,
while Abby talked to Mom.
609
00:31:14,706 --> 00:31:17,140
I found out afterwards.
He'd hit her.
610
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:21,358
A couple of months later
she was dead.
611
00:31:26,818 --> 00:31:30,117
Did you see Levi March
hit your sister?
612
00:31:31,422 --> 00:31:32,446
No.
613
00:31:32,523 --> 00:31:34,013
Did she ever tell you
he'd hit her?
614
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:35,759
No.
615
00:31:35,827 --> 00:31:39,160
Tell me Mrs. Carmody, was there ever
a time when you saw your mother cry?
616
00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:41,255
Of course.
617
00:31:41,499 --> 00:31:42,693
Did your father kill her?
618
00:31:43,368 --> 00:31:46,166
Do you know what that
man did to our family?
619
00:31:46,704 --> 00:31:50,606
A crying girlfriend. A disagreement
about a family outing.
620
00:31:51,376 --> 00:31:54,368
A hearsay story about someone
hitting someone else.
621
00:31:54,579 --> 00:31:57,047
Not exactly evidence
of murder, is it?
622
00:31:57,115 --> 00:31:59,913
That bastard killed Abby!
SILVERMAN: Your Honor.
623
00:32:00,852 --> 00:32:03,252
JUDGE: We get your point,
Mr. Silverman.
624
00:32:06,291 --> 00:32:09,488
At this time, Your Honor, the People
would like to read into evidence
625
00:32:09,627 --> 00:32:12,095
the testimony
of Mrs. Vera Sherman.
626
00:32:12,463 --> 00:32:13,691
Chambers, Judge.
627
00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:18,758
Hearsay, best evidence.
Take your pick.
628
00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:21,297
The witness is deceased,
Your Honor.
629
00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:23,699
Who's your witness?
The victim's mother.
630
00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:25,834
She testified at the first
trial that Abby Sherman
631
00:32:25,910 --> 00:32:28,071
had told her that she was scared
the defendant would kill her
632
00:32:28,179 --> 00:32:29,271
if she tried to leave.
633
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,938
Sworn testimony is admissible if the
witness is unavailable for trial.
634
00:32:33,251 --> 00:32:35,651
You're forgetting, Jack, according
to the Appellate Division,
635
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,178
that trial was an unconstitutional
violation of my client's rights.
636
00:32:39,290 --> 00:32:42,782
Ergo the verdict was void, ergo
the trial never took place,
637
00:32:42,894 --> 00:32:45,727
ergo Mrs. Sherman
never testified.
638
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:48,799
That is absurd. Defense counsel's
welcome to read his own
639
00:32:48,866 --> 00:32:50,527
cross-examination
of the witness
640
00:32:50,601 --> 00:32:52,933
from the first trial into
evidence, if he likes.
641
00:32:53,004 --> 00:32:56,405
What witness?
I don't see a witness.
642
00:32:57,308 --> 00:32:58,707
I don't either.
643
00:32:58,776 --> 00:33:01,574
As far as I'm concerned, that
transcript doesn't exist.
644
00:33:09,187 --> 00:33:11,155
The neighbors complained
about a stink.
645
00:33:11,889 --> 00:33:12,889
JACK: What did you do?
646
00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:15,148
We searched the place.
647
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,154
It stunk all right.
648
00:33:17,428 --> 00:33:19,623
Could you describe the smell?
Sure.
649
00:33:20,531 --> 00:33:22,522
It smelled like death
and peppermint.
650
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:23,894
Objection.
651
00:33:24,302 --> 00:33:27,169
Is the witness an expert
in the olfactory sciences?
652
00:33:27,238 --> 00:33:29,069
I'm an expert in dead bodies
653
00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:30,767
and the people
who try to hide them.
654
00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:32,542
I'll let it go.
655
00:33:33,378 --> 00:33:34,504
Thank you, Judge.
656
00:33:36,714 --> 00:33:40,206
Turns out the smell was a
combination of air fresheners
657
00:33:40,284 --> 00:33:41,808
and decomposing flesh.
658
00:33:42,186 --> 00:33:45,121
JACK: And this odor was emanating
from the defendant's apartment?
659
00:33:45,323 --> 00:33:46,950
His fireplace, to be exact.
660
00:33:47,191 --> 00:33:48,351
What did you do?
661
00:33:48,793 --> 00:33:50,693
I waited there while
my partner got a warrant
662
00:33:50,762 --> 00:33:52,491
and we tore down the wall.
663
00:33:53,731 --> 00:33:54,789
What did you find?
664
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,794
Human remains.
665
00:34:00,004 --> 00:34:02,973
Are these photographs
of those human remains?
666
00:34:03,574 --> 00:34:04,700
ASHMAN: Yes. Yes, they are.
667
00:34:16,421 --> 00:34:19,219
JACK: Could you describe the
condition of those remains?
668
00:34:19,323 --> 00:34:20,790
Badly decomposed.
669
00:34:22,260 --> 00:34:23,921
The body had been dismembered.
670
00:34:24,695 --> 00:34:25,923
The skull crushed.
671
00:34:26,364 --> 00:34:29,527
Were you subsequently able
to identify those remains?
672
00:34:30,435 --> 00:34:31,435
Yes.
673
00:34:31,769 --> 00:34:33,669
As those of Abby Sherman.
674
00:34:44,515 --> 00:34:46,278
Sure, Abby and I had problems.
675
00:34:47,018 --> 00:34:48,952
I'm sure all couples do
from time to time.
676
00:34:50,054 --> 00:34:51,521
Did you ever hit her?
677
00:34:53,891 --> 00:34:55,222
Let me tell you something.
678
00:34:56,794 --> 00:34:58,887
I believe, I truly believe,
679
00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:02,691
that each person on this planet
has only one true soul mate.
680
00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:05,569
Abby and I were born
for each other.
681
00:35:07,205 --> 00:35:08,331
No, I didn't hit her.
682
00:35:09,373 --> 00:35:10,840
And I certainly didn't kill her.
683
00:35:12,009 --> 00:35:13,601
When was the last time
you saw her?
684
00:35:14,178 --> 00:35:15,941
March 12th, 1982.
685
00:35:16,481 --> 00:35:18,972
We made love on the couch, and
I got on a plane for Detroit.
686
00:35:19,717 --> 00:35:21,309
If you remember there was
an auto worker's strike.
687
00:35:21,385 --> 00:35:24,684
I just flew out to lend
support for the working man.
688
00:35:26,491 --> 00:35:27,958
How long were you out of town?
689
00:35:30,695 --> 00:35:31,992
Maybe six weeks.
690
00:35:33,631 --> 00:35:35,622
Did you talk to Abby while you
were in Detroit?
691
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:36,860
No.
692
00:35:37,034 --> 00:35:40,800
She was going the next day to the Navajo
Reservation where she was doing work
693
00:35:41,005 --> 00:35:42,097
at the tribal hospital.
694
00:35:42,173 --> 00:35:44,038
And you couldn't reach her? No.
695
00:35:44,542 --> 00:35:46,142
In those days,
there were no cell phones,
696
00:35:46,377 --> 00:35:48,311
and she didn't have an answering
machine where she was staying.
697
00:35:48,479 --> 00:35:50,504
So what happened
when you got home?
698
00:35:51,015 --> 00:35:52,935
I called her parents.
They hadn't heard from her.
699
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:54,042
They didn't know where
she was either.
700
00:35:54,385 --> 00:35:55,716
Did the apartment smell?
701
00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:58,186
I called the super.
I complained.
702
00:35:58,422 --> 00:36:00,856
He said we had rats.
He put out poison.
703
00:36:01,392 --> 00:36:04,327
I just assumed that they crawled
off and died in the walls.
704
00:36:04,829 --> 00:36:06,729
A few days later, Detective
Ashman showed up.
705
00:36:07,498 --> 00:36:10,194
He took the fireplace apart,
and he found her body.
706
00:36:10,701 --> 00:36:11,861
And you were shocked?
707
00:36:14,305 --> 00:36:15,397
Devastated.
708
00:36:16,941 --> 00:36:18,067
I wanted to die.
709
00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:22,408
Do you have any idea who could
have done such a thing?
710
00:36:23,214 --> 00:36:24,306
Of course I do.
711
00:36:25,216 --> 00:36:26,274
That's why I ran.
712
00:36:26,684 --> 00:36:28,117
I knew I couldn't
get a fair trial.
713
00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:31,014
They were trying to frame me.
714
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:34,314
Why don't you tell us
who did it?
715
00:36:37,328 --> 00:36:38,818
Who killed Abby Sherman?
716
00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:42,030
Well, what you have to know
is that at that time I was
717
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,565
a very high profile person.
718
00:36:44,802 --> 00:36:46,929
I spoke truths a lot of
people didn't want to hear.
719
00:36:47,038 --> 00:36:48,130
Like what?
720
00:36:48,506 --> 00:36:51,475
Like the marriage of corporate
America and the American government.
721
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:56,172
Like the conspiracy of greed
and power that controls
722
00:36:56,247 --> 00:36:59,444
each and every human
being on this planet.
723
00:36:59,517 --> 00:37:01,075
I spoke the truth back then.
724
00:37:01,152 --> 00:37:03,313
People were starting to listen.
725
00:37:03,654 --> 00:37:07,420
Are you saying the American
government killed Abby Sherman?
726
00:37:08,292 --> 00:37:09,292
Yes.
727
00:37:09,894 --> 00:37:11,225
That's exactly what I'm saying.
728
00:37:12,296 --> 00:37:15,663
But if you were the problem,
if you were such a threat,
729
00:37:16,667 --> 00:37:18,191
why didn't they just kill you?
730
00:37:19,003 --> 00:37:20,334
They wanted to discredit me.
731
00:37:22,607 --> 00:37:23,938
Shut me up,
732
00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:26,440
not make me a martyr.
733
00:37:38,189 --> 00:37:40,680
Mr. McCoy? I'm
sorry, Your Honor,
734
00:37:40,791 --> 00:37:42,190
I just don't know what to say.
735
00:37:43,761 --> 00:37:45,592
I've heard some
whoppers on the stand,
736
00:37:45,663 --> 00:37:47,722
but this beggars
the imagination.
737
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:49,494
Objection.
738
00:37:49,834 --> 00:37:52,564
Do you have any questions for
this witness, Counselor?
739
00:38:00,177 --> 00:38:02,873
The government
murdered Abby Sherman?
740
00:38:03,681 --> 00:38:04,739
Who was it?
741
00:38:05,516 --> 00:38:06,642
The CIA?
742
00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:08,517
The FBI?
743
00:38:09,487 --> 00:38:11,546
Go ahead, just mock me,
Mr. McCoy.
744
00:38:13,658 --> 00:38:14,920
It is the truth.
745
00:38:14,992 --> 00:38:17,927
You've got to admit this is
all pretty hard to believe?
746
00:38:18,195 --> 00:38:20,129
Why? Why is it so hard
to believe?
747
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:23,899
They killed John, didn't they?
748
00:38:24,368 --> 00:38:25,892
John Kennedy?
749
00:38:26,604 --> 00:38:27,604
John Lennon.
750
00:38:27,838 --> 00:38:30,966
So Mark David Chapman was
working for the government?
751
00:38:31,275 --> 00:38:34,802
He spent time in a CIA
training camp in Beirut,
752
00:38:36,013 --> 00:38:37,105
where he was blooded.
753
00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:38,315
Blooded?
754
00:38:38,382 --> 00:38:39,508
Brainwashed.
755
00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:41,175
Trained,
756
00:38:42,219 --> 00:38:46,087
to be a skilled, covert
assassin.
757
00:38:46,157 --> 00:38:49,684
Are you saying the CIA
assassinated John Lennon?
758
00:38:49,994 --> 00:38:51,962
He was as dangerous
to them as I was.
759
00:38:54,131 --> 00:38:57,225
It's so sad. You're a part of the
conspiracy and you don't even know it.
760
00:38:57,301 --> 00:38:58,563
You're a dupe,
Mr. McCoy.
761
00:38:58,803 --> 00:39:01,067
And you're not.
You know the truth.
762
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:02,731
That's right, I do.
763
00:39:04,408 --> 00:39:07,605
How, in this world of uncertainty,
can you be so damned sure?
764
00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:09,179
They told me.
765
00:39:09,447 --> 00:39:11,472
Told you?
Who told you?
766
00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:14,483
A retired black ops agent.
767
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:17,119
Black ops?
768
00:39:17,421 --> 00:39:20,185
Illegal, covert operations.
769
00:39:20,925 --> 00:39:21,949
Wet works.
770
00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:23,825
Assassinations.
771
00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:26,292
The Phoenix program in Vietnam.
You remember,
772
00:39:26,864 --> 00:39:30,027
"Terminate with extreme
prejudice."
773
00:39:30,234 --> 00:39:33,397
You remember that
one, don't you, Mr. McCoy?
774
00:39:34,071 --> 00:39:35,629
And what did this
775
00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:37,435
retired,
776
00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:38,875
secret,
777
00:39:39,443 --> 00:39:40,705
covert,
778
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:42,045
black ops
779
00:39:42,713 --> 00:39:43,713
assassin
780
00:39:44,448 --> 00:39:45,448
tell you?
781
00:39:46,450 --> 00:39:49,544
He called me in Chicago
last year and apologized
782
00:39:49,754 --> 00:39:50,948
for killing Abby.
783
00:39:51,889 --> 00:39:52,947
I see.
784
00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:56,250
And for the record,
785
00:39:57,895 --> 00:39:59,522
what was this man's name?
786
00:40:01,766 --> 00:40:02,960
He couldn't tell me.
787
00:40:04,935 --> 00:40:05,993
Classified,
788
00:40:07,338 --> 00:40:08,338
on pain of death.
789
00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:10,198
Oh, please.
790
00:40:10,274 --> 00:40:11,366
SILVERMAN: Objection.
791
00:40:13,944 --> 00:40:14,944
Withdrawn.
792
00:40:22,219 --> 00:40:23,811
There's a word
for people like March.
793
00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:26,382
Let's hope it's "guilty".
794
00:40:26,757 --> 00:40:29,453
Paranoid. Wild theories
without a wisp of fact.
795
00:40:29,827 --> 00:40:31,954
The '97 NBA conference finals.
796
00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:34,764
The refs threw out
half the Knicks' team.
797
00:40:35,232 --> 00:40:36,631
So they'd lose to Miami,
798
00:40:36,767 --> 00:40:38,758
and Miami would lose
to the Bulls
799
00:40:38,936 --> 00:40:41,097
and Michael Jordan
would end up in the finals.
800
00:40:41,539 --> 00:40:43,097
The payday everyone wanted.
801
00:40:43,207 --> 00:40:44,970
You don't believe that, Arthur.
802
00:40:45,075 --> 00:40:46,303
Me? No.
803
00:40:46,844 --> 00:40:49,938
But the fellow I get my paper from every
morning's still yapping about it.
804
00:40:50,848 --> 00:40:52,713
It only takes one
out of twelve, Jack.
805
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:54,713
Don't I know it.
806
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,816
I just went over the LUDs pulled
from March's Chicago phone.
807
00:40:58,889 --> 00:41:01,585
Please don't tell me there
was a call from Langley.
808
00:41:01,759 --> 00:41:05,286
No, but there were quite a few
to and from a P. Tippens.
809
00:41:05,863 --> 00:41:06,863
JACK: Tippens.
810
00:41:07,531 --> 00:41:09,021
Trish Tippens.
811
00:41:09,733 --> 00:41:12,600
Patricia. The one Abby Sherman
caught March in bed with.
812
00:41:12,703 --> 00:41:13,703
I'll tell you what,
813
00:41:14,138 --> 00:41:16,265
it's March's girlfriends
who ought to be paranoid.
814
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,567
Actually, I was thinking
more about his wife.
815
00:41:22,112 --> 00:41:25,343
Mrs. Sherman, "She told me Levi was
cheating on her all the time."
816
00:41:25,583 --> 00:41:27,312
Question,
"Did she say with whom?"
817
00:41:27,718 --> 00:41:29,777
Answer, "Well, the straw
that broke the camel's back
818
00:41:29,854 --> 00:41:31,879
"was her friend Trish.
Trish Tippens.
819
00:41:32,456 --> 00:41:34,720
"Abby came home and
found Trish and Levi in bed."
820
00:41:35,025 --> 00:41:37,289
Judge already said none of
this can be used in court.
821
00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:39,527
We're not in court, Marvin.
822
00:41:39,830 --> 00:41:41,092
I don't understand.
823
00:41:41,265 --> 00:41:43,233
Who cares about an affair
I had twenty years ago?
824
00:41:46,237 --> 00:41:48,197
This is a list of phone calls
between your husband
825
00:41:48,205 --> 00:41:50,366
and Patricia Tippens
over the past two years.
826
00:41:50,441 --> 00:41:51,738
There are hundreds of them.
827
00:41:52,743 --> 00:41:55,712
If you look closely, you'll see
that the area code is 312.
828
00:41:55,913 --> 00:41:58,313
Chicago, isn't it where you've
been living the past two years?
829
00:42:00,217 --> 00:42:01,479
They're all local calls.
830
00:42:02,953 --> 00:42:04,953
Do you really think they
were just staying in touch?
831
00:42:17,601 --> 00:42:18,693
Bastard.
832
00:42:20,004 --> 00:42:21,004
You are a pig.
833
00:42:21,705 --> 00:42:22,967
Cochon.
834
00:42:24,074 --> 00:42:25,507
Don't you see, sweetie?
835
00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:27,636
They're setting us up.
836
00:42:27,878 --> 00:42:29,436
I gave up my life for you.
837
00:42:30,114 --> 00:42:31,114
My family.
838
00:42:31,181 --> 00:42:32,181
Ten years.
839
00:42:33,117 --> 00:42:34,209
I trusted you.
840
00:42:38,088 --> 00:42:40,249
You never even stopped
seeing her, did you?
841
00:42:40,791 --> 00:42:43,692
Even while I'm pregnant
you were still screwing her.
842
00:42:43,928 --> 00:42:45,793
They're lying, Anne-Marie.
843
00:42:46,897 --> 00:42:48,592
And we'll talk about it later.
844
00:42:49,733 --> 00:42:50,825
That's right.
845
00:42:50,901 --> 00:42:52,198
They're always lying.
846
00:42:52,303 --> 00:42:54,965
Everyone else is always lying.
847
00:42:55,072 --> 00:42:56,767
You're the only one
who tells the truth.
848
00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:03,937
Do you know what he told me?
849
00:43:05,783 --> 00:43:07,774
He told me that he killed
that girl,
850
00:43:08,819 --> 00:43:09,819
Abby.
851
00:43:10,487 --> 00:43:13,513
That he killed her and he put
her body in the fireplace.
852
00:43:17,061 --> 00:43:18,119
Anne-Marie.
853
00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:21,629
What are you saying?
854
00:43:23,934 --> 00:43:25,333
I never told you that.
855
00:43:32,576 --> 00:43:34,237
They're married.
It's privileged.
856
00:43:34,311 --> 00:43:35,403
No, guess again.
857
00:43:36,313 --> 00:43:37,644
We were never married.
858
00:43:38,482 --> 00:43:40,677
Our marriage is a sham, a lie.
859
00:43:44,021 --> 00:43:45,021
Just like him.
860
00:43:56,867 --> 00:43:58,232
Give us a minute, Jack.
861
00:44:07,111 --> 00:44:08,738
He took murder two, the max.
862
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,674
Twenty-five to life?
863
00:44:11,448 --> 00:44:13,416
I would've rolled the dice
with a jury.
864
00:44:13,684 --> 00:44:16,676
You didn't have a felony escape
charge hanging over your head
865
00:44:16,754 --> 00:44:19,052
with sentences
to run consecutively.
866
00:44:19,690 --> 00:44:22,523
This way, he has at least a
theoretical chance of parole.
867
00:44:22,626 --> 00:44:25,066
Do you really think he told
Anne-Marie he committed the murder?
868
00:44:25,729 --> 00:44:27,287
I think she proved his point.
869
00:44:28,732 --> 00:44:30,597
This time, finally,
someone was out
870
00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:31,726
to get him.
871
00:44:31,776 --> 00:44:36,326
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