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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,235 --> 00:00:02,976 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:03,037 --> 00:00:06,917 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:06,974 --> 00:00:08,783 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,843 --> 00:00:11,653 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,712 --> 00:00:13,248 These are their stories. 6 00:00:15,883 --> 00:00:17,521 We're obviously not hitting it off 7 00:00:17,585 --> 00:00:19,462 like Bob and Marcy thought we would. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,364 We don't have to go eat dinner, okay? We could just call it a night. 9 00:00:22,423 --> 00:00:23,993 (EXHALES) We already came this far. 10 00:00:24,058 --> 00:00:29,007 We might as well find this place and get some tofu or whatever. 11 00:00:29,230 --> 00:00:31,073 Now you're being hostile. 12 00:00:31,132 --> 00:00:33,339 Look, I'm not judging you for eating meat, okay? 13 00:00:33,401 --> 00:00:35,972 I just prefer not to eat beings with souls. 14 00:00:36,037 --> 00:00:37,072 (CHUCKLES) 15 00:00:37,138 --> 00:00:39,744 The Pantheists believed plants had souls. 16 00:00:39,807 --> 00:00:42,048 How does that fit into your paradigm? 17 00:00:42,110 --> 00:00:44,613 I choose to draw the line at animal matter. 18 00:00:44,679 --> 00:00:47,626 And you shouldn't litter. We're all custodians of the earth. 19 00:00:49,383 --> 00:00:51,385 Oh, my God. What now? 20 00:00:56,691 --> 00:00:57,829 How long's he been here? 21 00:00:57,892 --> 00:01:01,135 Well, the body's still warm. M.E. says no more than an hour. 22 00:01:01,195 --> 00:01:04,233 Looks like he was shot on the street and then dragged down here. 23 00:01:04,298 --> 00:01:06,244 Yeah, he took one in the chest. 24 00:01:07,101 --> 00:01:09,445 CSU's got the shell casings. 25 00:01:10,605 --> 00:01:11,879 Looks like his early 50s? 26 00:01:11,939 --> 00:01:14,647 Yeah. He did pretty well, from the looks of his clothes. 27 00:01:14,709 --> 00:01:16,086 Any ID? 28 00:01:16,144 --> 00:01:18,715 The money's still here, so it's probably not a robbery. 29 00:01:18,779 --> 00:01:19,883 Let's see. 30 00:01:21,282 --> 00:01:24,320 Thomas Reddick. Pavilion Publishing. CEO. 31 00:01:24,919 --> 00:01:26,455 (SIREN WAILS) 32 00:01:26,787 --> 00:01:30,894 Looks like they publish a string of magazines. News, fashion. 33 00:01:30,958 --> 00:01:33,461 Well, he's on the other side of the camera now. 34 00:01:33,528 --> 00:01:35,405 He's on the other side, period. 35 00:02:26,581 --> 00:02:28,652 Tomorrow's our anniversary. 36 00:02:29,850 --> 00:02:31,352 Twenty-three years. 37 00:02:32,019 --> 00:02:34,431 ED: We're very sorry for your loss, Mrs. Reddick. 38 00:02:36,157 --> 00:02:38,831 Our son Ted is a senior at Brown and... 39 00:02:40,995 --> 00:02:42,975 I don't know how I'm going to tell him. 40 00:02:43,798 --> 00:02:47,075 The last time you spoke to your husband, he was in his office? 41 00:02:48,903 --> 00:02:53,545 He called me at about 5:00, just to say hi. 42 00:02:57,778 --> 00:03:01,817 I hurried him off the phone because I was late for my pilates class. 43 00:03:01,882 --> 00:03:03,828 ED: What time did you get home? 44 00:03:03,884 --> 00:03:06,057 Around 7:00 or so. 45 00:03:07,288 --> 00:03:09,791 Were you concerned at all that he wasn't here? 46 00:03:09,857 --> 00:03:12,997 Ever since they made him CEO at Pavilion, 47 00:03:13,060 --> 00:03:15,438 he's had an enormous demand on his time. 48 00:03:15,963 --> 00:03:18,000 His office is at Midtown. 49 00:03:18,265 --> 00:03:20,871 Any idea why he was five blocks from here? 50 00:03:21,469 --> 00:03:24,609 (SIGHS) The only thing I can think is that, 51 00:03:24,672 --> 00:03:27,983 he stopped to get a last minute anniversary gift. 52 00:03:29,076 --> 00:03:31,056 ED: ls there anybody in the area he would have visited? 53 00:03:31,112 --> 00:03:33,114 (SIGHS) Not that I know of. 54 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:36,792 I hate to ask you this but, 55 00:03:37,985 --> 00:03:41,057 could there have been another party involved? 56 00:03:42,957 --> 00:03:47,702 The only other party in our marriage was that job, Detective. 57 00:03:48,596 --> 00:03:50,132 I used to joke that 58 00:03:52,099 --> 00:03:54,170 that job would make me a widow. 59 00:03:58,539 --> 00:04:00,780 You know, this is pretty impressive. Yeah. 60 00:04:00,841 --> 00:04:03,981 And for all that the guy ends up dead at the bottom of a stairwell. 61 00:04:04,045 --> 00:04:05,922 I've got his appointment book. 62 00:04:05,980 --> 00:04:08,017 I'm not sure you should be going through that. 63 00:04:08,082 --> 00:04:10,255 Look, we're dealing with a homicide investigation. 64 00:04:10,317 --> 00:04:12,695 Oh, I just meant there might be some sensitive material there. 65 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:14,426 That's exactly what we're looking for. 66 00:04:14,488 --> 00:04:17,162 I was referring to the corporate financial information 67 00:04:17,224 --> 00:04:18,259 about the buyouts. 68 00:04:18,325 --> 00:04:20,305 Buyouts? Of the other magazines. 69 00:04:20,528 --> 00:04:22,735 That's what Mr. Reddick's meetings were about yesterday. 70 00:04:22,797 --> 00:04:24,538 When was his last appointment? 71 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,246 That would have been his 6:30 with Legal. 72 00:04:28,336 --> 00:04:30,179 And that was the last time you saw him? 73 00:04:30,237 --> 00:04:32,979 On his way upstairs. He wasn't very happy. 74 00:04:33,474 --> 00:04:36,080 Mr. Reddick didn't really look forward to meetings with lawyers. 75 00:04:36,143 --> 00:04:37,588 I know the feeling. 76 00:04:39,046 --> 00:04:41,424 Pavilion Publishing just bought out several magazines 77 00:04:41,482 --> 00:04:43,223 to bring under our umbrella. 78 00:04:43,584 --> 00:04:45,860 Naturally, it came with residual baggage. 79 00:04:46,220 --> 00:04:47,927 Meaning? Lawsuits. 80 00:04:48,723 --> 00:04:52,227 Thomas was here for an hour or so to discuss potential resolutions. 81 00:04:54,862 --> 00:04:57,866 Thomas was such a driving force in this company. 82 00:04:59,333 --> 00:05:01,040 I can't believe he's gone. 83 00:05:01,102 --> 00:05:03,309 Was there anybody else here besides you two? 84 00:05:04,004 --> 00:05:07,474 Several of our in-house attorneys, a paralegal. 85 00:05:07,975 --> 00:05:11,354 We were evaluating the cases and preparing settlement offers. 86 00:05:11,412 --> 00:05:14,018 Do you recall what time Mr. Reddick left the meeting? 87 00:05:14,081 --> 00:05:16,322 I know it was around 7:30. 88 00:05:16,450 --> 00:05:19,659 I just assumed he was going back to his office. 89 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,132 I was on duty last night when Mr. Reddick left. 90 00:05:22,590 --> 00:05:24,900 We've all been working double shifts these last few months. 91 00:05:24,959 --> 00:05:27,098 Do people sign in and out of the building after hours? 92 00:05:27,161 --> 00:05:30,438 If they don't have IDs, anyone in after 6:00 signs a sheet 93 00:05:30,498 --> 00:05:31,738 and again when they leave. 94 00:05:31,799 --> 00:05:34,643 Does that show anybody signing out around the time Mr. Reddick left? 95 00:05:34,702 --> 00:05:36,739 No, sir. Not until 10 minutes later. 96 00:05:38,005 --> 00:05:40,576 This doesn't say which offices half the people went to. 97 00:05:40,641 --> 00:05:42,120 And some of them didn't even sign out. 98 00:05:42,276 --> 00:05:44,847 Phone rings, I can't do six things at once. 99 00:05:44,912 --> 00:05:47,620 Was anybody with Mr. Reddick when he went out? 100 00:05:47,681 --> 00:05:48,853 He was by himself. 101 00:05:48,916 --> 00:05:50,987 I offered to get him a cab, it was freezing out, 102 00:05:51,051 --> 00:05:52,496 but he said I should stay warm. 103 00:05:52,553 --> 00:05:53,588 Decent guy. 104 00:05:53,654 --> 00:05:54,962 Did you see him get in the cab? 105 00:05:55,022 --> 00:05:56,467 I saw it pull up. 106 00:05:56,524 --> 00:05:58,902 I remember because there were a few other people out there. 107 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:00,370 Looked like he was talking to one of them. 108 00:06:00,428 --> 00:06:02,874 I looked again, the cab was gone, so was Mr. Reddick. 109 00:06:02,930 --> 00:06:05,376 So you didn't see if Mr. Reddick got in the taxi by himself? 110 00:06:05,433 --> 00:06:07,106 I wasn't paying close attention. 111 00:06:07,168 --> 00:06:08,977 Do you remember what this person looked like? 112 00:06:09,036 --> 00:06:11,038 The one that Reddick was talking to? 113 00:06:11,105 --> 00:06:12,482 A white guy. 114 00:06:12,540 --> 00:06:14,713 Suit and tie, overcoat. 115 00:06:14,775 --> 00:06:15,810 That's about it. 116 00:06:15,876 --> 00:06:16,877 Thanks. 117 00:06:19,547 --> 00:06:21,117 So he leaves his office at 7:30 118 00:06:21,182 --> 00:06:24,561 and winds up dead five blocks from home a half hour later. 119 00:06:24,618 --> 00:06:27,997 The canvass didn't turn up any witnesses in the vicinity of the attack. 120 00:06:28,055 --> 00:06:32,333 Well, Ballistics said the gun used to kill Mr. Reddick was a Glock 9mm. 121 00:06:32,393 --> 00:06:34,202 Anything recovered from the search of the area? 122 00:06:34,261 --> 00:06:35,433 Nothing so far. 123 00:06:35,496 --> 00:06:37,772 There were a couple of gift shops and florists in the area. 124 00:06:37,832 --> 00:06:41,575 So if his wife was right about him stopping for an anniversary present, 125 00:06:41,635 --> 00:06:43,205 he never made it. 126 00:06:43,270 --> 00:06:45,113 Wallet full of cash, nothing taken. 127 00:06:45,172 --> 00:06:46,310 It still could have been a robbery. 128 00:06:46,373 --> 00:06:48,375 Somebody comes along, they scare the attacker off. 129 00:06:48,442 --> 00:06:51,286 So we're right back to the last people who saw him alive. 130 00:06:51,378 --> 00:06:53,790 Security guard said Reddick left the building alone 131 00:06:53,848 --> 00:06:57,455 and then was talking to a white guy in a suit just before he got into the cab. 132 00:06:57,551 --> 00:07:00,464 Only he wasn't sure if this guy got in the cab with Reddick. 133 00:07:00,521 --> 00:07:02,125 Now, that lawyer you spoke with, 134 00:07:02,189 --> 00:07:04,294 didn't he say there were other people at the meeting? 135 00:07:04,358 --> 00:07:07,567 Well, maybe this guy in the suit was one of them. 136 00:07:07,628 --> 00:07:09,539 Mr. Reddick left by himself. 137 00:07:09,597 --> 00:07:12,339 He didn't offer to maybe share a cab with anybody? 138 00:07:12,466 --> 00:07:14,742 Mmm-mmm. The rest of us continued working on the cases. 139 00:07:14,802 --> 00:07:15,974 The lawsuits? 140 00:07:16,036 --> 00:07:17,310 Are those them? Yes. 141 00:07:17,371 --> 00:07:18,611 Mind if we take a look? 142 00:07:18,672 --> 00:07:20,811 Actually, all those files are privileged. 143 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:24,079 Okay. Can you tell us the nature of the litigations? 144 00:07:24,144 --> 00:07:27,682 They run the gamut from slip-and-falls to contract disputes, 145 00:07:27,748 --> 00:07:29,921 a few sexual harassment suits. 146 00:07:30,184 --> 00:07:31,788 Just one big happy company. 147 00:07:32,219 --> 00:07:33,721 ED: Were there any plaintiffs that were a problem? 148 00:07:33,787 --> 00:07:35,562 They are all a problem. 149 00:07:35,623 --> 00:07:38,866 But it wouldn't have been in anyone's interest to harm Thomas. 150 00:07:38,926 --> 00:07:41,702 He was the one anxious to dispose of the suits. 151 00:07:42,129 --> 00:07:43,267 BRISCOE: Well, what we're thinking is, 152 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:46,641 would anybody on this list have been interested in disposing of him? 153 00:07:51,272 --> 00:07:53,115 IRWIN: I filed the suit because as a stockholder 154 00:07:53,174 --> 00:07:55,552 I disagree with the management decisions of the company. 155 00:07:55,609 --> 00:07:57,987 I'm guessing you're a minority shareholder. 156 00:07:58,045 --> 00:07:59,991 I'm entitled to express my views. 157 00:08:00,047 --> 00:08:02,186 Please don't lean on the Chippendale. 158 00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:07,057 Maybe you wanted to express your views directly to Thomas Reddick. 159 00:08:07,121 --> 00:08:09,328 That's why I sued. But as for killing him... 160 00:08:09,390 --> 00:08:11,927 Look, we spoke to the lawyers at the publishing company. 161 00:08:11,992 --> 00:08:14,438 They got a whole stack of letters that you wrote to Mr. Reddick. 162 00:08:14,495 --> 00:08:15,940 Threatening letters, Irwin. 163 00:08:15,996 --> 00:08:18,499 Look, I believe in the pen, not the sword. 164 00:08:18,999 --> 00:08:20,740 In fact, I got a file cabinet full of complaint letters 165 00:08:20,801 --> 00:08:23,372 just like the one I sent to Pavilion. 166 00:08:23,437 --> 00:08:25,417 How come I have no problem believing that? 167 00:08:25,472 --> 00:08:27,281 So what the hell were you so upset about? 168 00:08:27,741 --> 00:08:29,277 Pavilion is expanding into areas 169 00:08:29,343 --> 00:08:30,947 I don't think are in its best interest. 170 00:08:32,246 --> 00:08:33,520 Such as... 171 00:08:33,981 --> 00:08:37,190 Porn. I mean, they were soft core magazines, 172 00:08:37,251 --> 00:08:41,722 but buying them out was a fundamental violation of Pavilion's corporate mission. 173 00:08:41,789 --> 00:08:44,736 The guy sells Chippendales, but he objects to porn. 174 00:08:44,792 --> 00:08:45,930 (LAUGHS MOCKINGLY) 175 00:08:45,993 --> 00:08:48,405 Wonder why Pavilion's lawyers never mentioned it. 176 00:08:48,462 --> 00:08:50,533 It's their dirty little secret. 177 00:08:50,598 --> 00:08:52,043 A profitable one. 178 00:08:52,099 --> 00:08:54,340 You know, we can cross-reference the list of plaintiffs 179 00:08:54,401 --> 00:08:56,745 from the magazine and see what turns up. 180 00:09:00,107 --> 00:09:02,451 My agent told me it was away to make some easy money. 181 00:09:02,509 --> 00:09:04,250 You mean posing for those photos? 182 00:09:04,311 --> 00:09:07,315 (SIGHS) Rent, acting classes, time off for auditions. 183 00:09:07,381 --> 00:09:09,122 It all takes money, Detective. 184 00:09:09,183 --> 00:09:10,355 Money I don't have. 185 00:09:10,417 --> 00:09:12,158 So, why did you sue? 186 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:14,363 'Cause your boyfriend didn't like it? 187 00:09:15,055 --> 00:09:16,762 Doug doesn't understand what it's like. 188 00:09:16,857 --> 00:09:18,803 How much competition there is out there. 189 00:09:19,193 --> 00:09:21,764 So, he's the one who didn't want the photos published? 190 00:09:22,363 --> 00:09:24,934 Well, they were supposed to be for a private collection. 191 00:09:24,999 --> 00:09:26,910 Then about six months ago, I got a letter in the mail 192 00:09:26,967 --> 00:09:29,277 saying they were going to run them in one of their magazines. 193 00:09:29,336 --> 00:09:30,679 ED: How did Doug take that? 194 00:09:30,738 --> 00:09:32,149 (SIGHS) Not real well. 195 00:09:32,973 --> 00:09:35,852 Is there any chance that your boyfriend could have known 196 00:09:35,909 --> 00:09:38,389 Pavilion was going to talk about your lawsuit that night? 197 00:09:38,445 --> 00:09:39,480 AMANDA: Why? 198 00:09:39,546 --> 00:09:42,026 We just need to speak to anybody that might have been involved. 199 00:09:42,082 --> 00:09:44,255 Look, Doug was pissed, but that's all. 200 00:09:45,052 --> 00:09:46,656 He couldn't have had anything to do with it. 201 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,893 He works two jobs. Nights he tends bar. 202 00:09:51,325 --> 00:09:53,066 Doug never showed up that night. He say why? 203 00:09:53,127 --> 00:09:54,765 Said he forgot. 204 00:09:54,828 --> 00:09:56,068 Kid's been with me over a year. 205 00:09:56,130 --> 00:09:58,041 I gotta cut him some slack, you know. 206 00:09:58,098 --> 00:09:59,702 What do you guys want to talk to him about? 207 00:09:59,767 --> 00:10:00,973 His girlfriend. 208 00:10:01,035 --> 00:10:02,605 Amanda. You know her? 209 00:10:03,203 --> 00:10:05,183 Yeah, sure. She comes in here all the time. 210 00:10:05,239 --> 00:10:07,412 Whoa, whoa. Doug didn't do something stupid, now did he? 211 00:10:07,474 --> 00:10:08,714 Why do you say that? 212 00:10:08,776 --> 00:10:10,153 Well, the kid's upset, you know. 213 00:10:10,210 --> 00:10:12,053 I mean, this girl's the girl of his dreams, 214 00:10:12,112 --> 00:10:13,955 if we can all remember what that's like. 215 00:10:14,014 --> 00:10:16,517 You know, the stuff about the pictures comes out, you know. 216 00:10:16,583 --> 00:10:17,721 He talked about it? 217 00:10:17,785 --> 00:10:20,265 Yeah, sure. It's all he could talk about. I tried to tell him, 218 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,459 I said, "Look, it's not the end of the world or anything." 219 00:10:22,523 --> 00:10:24,434 But he didn't see it that way. No. 220 00:10:24,491 --> 00:10:25,936 The guys at the construction job 221 00:10:25,993 --> 00:10:27,472 started giving him the grief, you know. 222 00:10:27,528 --> 00:10:29,064 We get lawyers in here from time to time. 223 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:31,541 He was always asking 'em what he could do, you know. 224 00:10:31,598 --> 00:10:33,475 But they kept telling him there's nothing he could do. 225 00:10:33,534 --> 00:10:35,707 So Doug didn't take no for an answer. 226 00:10:36,603 --> 00:10:37,638 BRISCOE: Douglas Larson? 227 00:10:37,705 --> 00:10:39,013 DOUG: That's right. 228 00:10:39,073 --> 00:10:41,383 We need to talk to you about Thomas Reddick. 229 00:10:41,442 --> 00:10:42,716 What about? 230 00:10:42,776 --> 00:10:44,312 You don't seem surprised. 231 00:10:45,746 --> 00:10:47,817 Well, I figure it has something to do with Amanda. 232 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:49,383 Then you know Mr. Reddick? 233 00:10:49,450 --> 00:10:51,054 I know who he is, yeah. 234 00:10:51,118 --> 00:10:52,825 When's the last time you saw him? 235 00:10:52,886 --> 00:10:55,833 I've never seen him. Look, what's this all about? 236 00:10:55,889 --> 00:10:58,495 BRISCOE: Maybe we better talk down at the precinct. 237 00:10:59,026 --> 00:11:00,403 Are You saying I gotta go with you? 238 00:11:00,461 --> 00:11:03,135 Look, it would help to clear some things up. 239 00:11:03,197 --> 00:11:04,369 About Amanda. 240 00:11:05,899 --> 00:11:07,139 Can I at least change? 241 00:11:07,201 --> 00:11:08,407 BRISCOE: Oh, don't worry about it. 242 00:11:08,469 --> 00:11:11,507 The kind of pictures we take are only from the neck up. 243 00:11:11,705 --> 00:11:12,706 Let's go. 244 00:11:17,945 --> 00:11:20,118 I told you, I never saw Reddick that night. 245 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:21,625 But you did go to his office. 246 00:11:21,715 --> 00:11:24,457 Your name's on the building sign-in sheet. 247 00:11:27,321 --> 00:11:29,892 You recognize your signature, Mr. Larson? 248 00:11:30,924 --> 00:11:32,870 Okay, I went up to see Reddick, 249 00:11:32,926 --> 00:11:34,200 but he was already gone. 250 00:11:34,628 --> 00:11:36,005 Then why go there at all? 251 00:11:36,063 --> 00:11:37,167 I just wanted to talk to him. 252 00:11:37,231 --> 00:11:39,609 See if maybe they'd think about what they were doing to Amanda. 253 00:11:39,666 --> 00:11:41,373 You mean about what they were doing to you? 254 00:11:41,435 --> 00:11:45,281 People have told us you were pretty angry about those pictures, Mr. Larson. 255 00:11:46,006 --> 00:11:47,508 What are you saying? 256 00:11:47,574 --> 00:11:50,214 Why did you lie to your boss about where you were that night? 257 00:11:50,277 --> 00:11:52,052 I didn't think it was any of his business. 258 00:11:52,112 --> 00:11:55,184 The security guard said he saw you talkin' to Reddick 259 00:11:55,249 --> 00:11:57,092 that night in front of his building. 260 00:11:57,151 --> 00:11:59,153 I told you, I never saw him. 261 00:11:59,219 --> 00:12:01,722 He said that you two were arguing. 262 00:12:01,789 --> 00:12:03,166 It never happened. 263 00:12:04,958 --> 00:12:07,905 Look, I went up to Reddick's office, he wasn't there. 264 00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:10,805 I came back down, got in the car with my friend. That's all. 265 00:12:10,931 --> 00:12:12,968 BRISCOE: What friend? A guy I work at the site with. 266 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:15,206 Danny Moreno. He gave me a ride. 267 00:12:15,869 --> 00:12:19,078 Look, you can ask him yourself. He was there when I came out. 268 00:12:19,673 --> 00:12:22,313 My wife temps three blocks away. I gave Doug a lift. 269 00:12:22,476 --> 00:12:24,752 You drove into Midtown to pick your wife up? 270 00:12:24,845 --> 00:12:26,153 She broke her leg a few months ago. 271 00:12:26,213 --> 00:12:27,749 She still has trouble getting around. 272 00:12:27,814 --> 00:12:29,020 What's going on? 273 00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:32,461 Hey, did Doug tell you why he was going to Pavilion Publishing? 274 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:34,726 To talk to some guy about his girlfriend's pictures. 275 00:12:34,788 --> 00:12:37,166 Was he angry? Of course he was. Wouldn't you be? 276 00:12:37,224 --> 00:12:39,704 BRISCOE: He said that you were there when he came out. 277 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,003 Yeah, my wife doesn't get off till 8:00. I found a spot on the corner. 278 00:12:43,697 --> 00:12:46,303 A man was killed that night, Mr. Moreno. 279 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:48,038 This man. 280 00:12:48,101 --> 00:12:50,308 Actually there were a couple of guys 281 00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:51,906 and I think one of them was a black guy. 282 00:12:51,972 --> 00:12:53,815 Looked to me like they had some sort of beef. 283 00:12:53,874 --> 00:12:55,251 Might've been him, I don't know. 284 00:12:55,309 --> 00:12:57,118 BRISCOE: Can you describe who was with him? 285 00:12:57,177 --> 00:12:58,485 Two white guys. ED: Two white guys? 286 00:12:58,545 --> 00:12:59,580 Right. 287 00:12:59,646 --> 00:13:02,217 Did you notice if they all came out of the same building? 288 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:03,693 I didn't see. 289 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:05,252 Did you see if they left together? 290 00:13:05,352 --> 00:13:06,660 Black guy got in the cab, 291 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,667 then the other two flagged down another one a couple of seconds later. 292 00:13:09,723 --> 00:13:10,793 Anything else you can tell us? 293 00:13:10,858 --> 00:13:12,804 Just that the white guys seemed in a hurry. 294 00:13:12,860 --> 00:13:14,464 I noticed that 'cause they started helping a lady 295 00:13:14,528 --> 00:13:16,804 who was already in the cab take her luggage out of the back. 296 00:13:16,864 --> 00:13:19,811 It was one of those, you know, minivan type taxis. 297 00:13:21,869 --> 00:13:24,145 So, we're not looking for one white guy in a suit. Now it's two. 298 00:13:24,204 --> 00:13:26,377 Oh, well, that just narrows it right down. 299 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,545 And we're sure Doug Larson wasn't one of them? 300 00:13:28,609 --> 00:13:31,590 Only time you'd find him in a suit would be at a wedding or a funeral. 301 00:13:31,645 --> 00:13:35,218 Okay, so this witness sees these two guys with Reddick arguing. 302 00:13:35,282 --> 00:13:37,489 Although he's not sure he saw them come out of the same building. 303 00:13:37,551 --> 00:13:39,087 Well, if they had something to do with the murder, 304 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:41,154 then they had to follow him in the second cab. 305 00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:43,792 Or they knew where Reddick was going in the first place. 306 00:13:43,857 --> 00:13:45,097 Well, the only way to find out 307 00:13:45,158 --> 00:13:46,899 is to talk to the second cabbie. 308 00:13:47,361 --> 00:13:48,772 Oh, that ought to be easy. 309 00:13:51,064 --> 00:13:55,103 Taxi and Limousine Commission says there's 382 minivan type cabs in the city. 310 00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:56,613 They tell you which companies use them? 311 00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:58,240 Yeah, mainly the independents. 312 00:13:58,305 --> 00:14:00,911 Guy said the sedans are lucky to have a three-year street life. 313 00:14:00,974 --> 00:14:02,715 Minivans go for five or more. 314 00:14:02,776 --> 00:14:03,914 There's three makes. 315 00:14:03,977 --> 00:14:07,151 Isuzu Oasis, Chevy Venture and Honda Odyssey. 316 00:14:07,214 --> 00:14:08,887 Here's a list of the independents. 317 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:11,225 We can pull the registrations from the DMV. 318 00:14:11,285 --> 00:14:14,061 Please tell me they weren't all on the road that night. 319 00:14:15,489 --> 00:14:17,196 I had just gotten back from JFK. 320 00:14:17,257 --> 00:14:20,136 I was about to go back to the airport when these two guys jumped in. 321 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:21,467 One of them gave me $50. 322 00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:24,737 I figured, airport business isn't what it used to be anyway, so... 323 00:14:24,798 --> 00:14:25,902 Where'd you take 'em? 324 00:14:25,966 --> 00:14:27,775 The West Side. The Seventies. 325 00:14:27,834 --> 00:14:28,835 You're sure? 326 00:14:28,902 --> 00:14:31,314 Yes, one of them wanted me to follow this other cab. 327 00:14:31,371 --> 00:14:32,714 At first, I started to laugh. 328 00:14:32,773 --> 00:14:34,775 I thought maybe I was on Spy TV. 329 00:14:34,841 --> 00:14:36,320 But then the one guy, he tells me to shut up 330 00:14:36,376 --> 00:14:37,855 and keep my eyes on the other cab. 331 00:14:37,911 --> 00:14:39,356 That is why I remember. 332 00:14:39,780 --> 00:14:41,157 So what happened when you dropped them off? 333 00:14:41,381 --> 00:14:42,985 The one who gave me the money got out. 334 00:14:43,050 --> 00:14:45,155 The other one I took back across the park. 335 00:14:45,218 --> 00:14:46,322 BRISCOE: So, they didn't both get out? 336 00:14:46,386 --> 00:14:49,128 No, no, just the one. The other guy wanted to go home. 337 00:14:49,189 --> 00:14:51,635 So, what did the first guy do when he got out? 338 00:14:51,692 --> 00:14:53,933 He went off into the direction of the other cab. 339 00:14:53,994 --> 00:14:55,473 After that, I didn't see. 340 00:14:55,529 --> 00:14:57,839 Do you remember where you dropped the second guy off? 341 00:14:57,898 --> 00:15:01,778 82nd and York, I think But I could check my trip sheet. 342 00:15:01,835 --> 00:15:04,145 BRISCOE: You remember anything else about these guys? 343 00:15:04,204 --> 00:15:05,444 Just that the one was real angry. 344 00:15:05,505 --> 00:15:06,813 ED: Angry? Angry about what? 345 00:15:06,873 --> 00:15:08,784 I couldn't hear. Just the other one. 346 00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:10,752 He kept saying how it is not worth it. 347 00:15:10,811 --> 00:15:12,791 Kept trying to get his friend to go back to some bar. 348 00:15:12,846 --> 00:15:13,916 What bar? 349 00:15:13,981 --> 00:15:15,426 Had to be near where I picked them up. 350 00:15:15,482 --> 00:15:18,326 He kept on talking about the waitress. A redhead. 351 00:15:19,252 --> 00:15:21,630 We get a lot of customers from the building after work. 352 00:15:21,688 --> 00:15:23,065 Brokers, lawyers. 353 00:15:23,123 --> 00:15:25,125 You made quite an impression on this guy. 354 00:15:25,192 --> 00:15:27,035 He was talking about you in the cab. 355 00:15:27,094 --> 00:15:28,368 Nothing stands out. 356 00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:31,375 Okay, this guy had a friend. They would have left around 7:30. 357 00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:33,468 That's happy hour. It's a mob scene in here. 358 00:15:33,533 --> 00:15:36,707 Well, we're gonna need all your charge receipts from that night. 359 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:38,044 My manager could get those for you, 360 00:15:38,105 --> 00:15:40,085 but usually guys just pay cash. 361 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:42,279 Hey, did anybody try to hook up with you? 362 00:15:42,342 --> 00:15:43,548 Ask for your number? 363 00:15:44,511 --> 00:15:46,013 Hang on a minute. 364 00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:50,621 Hook up? Were these guys trying to get laid or tow her car? 365 00:15:50,684 --> 00:15:51,992 (CHUCKLES) 366 00:15:52,285 --> 00:15:55,562 I don't give out my number. But sometimes guys give me their business cards. 367 00:15:55,622 --> 00:15:58,125 These are from the past couple of nights. 368 00:16:00,927 --> 00:16:03,840 I had no idea that was the guy who was killed. 369 00:16:04,931 --> 00:16:06,433 So, you don't read the paper? 370 00:16:06,500 --> 00:16:09,208 Look, if I would have known, I would have... 371 00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:13,445 Well, now you do know. So why don't you tell us what happened, Mr. Turner? 372 00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:16,477 Or we can put your ass in a line-up. 373 00:16:16,543 --> 00:16:18,079 Should I have a lawyer here? 374 00:16:18,178 --> 00:16:20,715 If you don't start telling us what happened, yeah. 375 00:16:23,917 --> 00:16:26,124 I had a drink with Ray. Ray Burrows. 376 00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:27,931 Mr. Burrows works here, too? 377 00:16:27,988 --> 00:16:30,332 Used to. Not anymore. 378 00:16:30,390 --> 00:16:32,529 So you met him for a drink. Then what? 379 00:16:32,592 --> 00:16:33,662 I went home. 380 00:16:34,594 --> 00:16:37,632 Mr. Turner, we know that you followed Mr. Reddick in a taxi. 381 00:16:38,098 --> 00:16:41,204 Then you know I'm telling the truth about going home. 382 00:16:41,268 --> 00:16:44,272 We think you know more about what happened than that. 383 00:16:45,772 --> 00:16:48,275 Are you gonna tell us or am I gonna slap cuffs on you? 384 00:16:50,777 --> 00:16:52,552 We came out of the bar. 385 00:16:53,413 --> 00:16:55,154 Ray got a cab. 386 00:16:56,016 --> 00:16:57,723 This other guy walks up to it. 387 00:16:57,784 --> 00:16:58,922 BRISCOE: Thomas Reddick. 388 00:16:58,985 --> 00:17:00,987 The black guy who got killed. 389 00:17:01,054 --> 00:17:02,795 I didn't know his name. 390 00:17:04,191 --> 00:17:07,570 He starts to get in, Ray puts an arm on him, tells him that's our cab. 391 00:17:08,895 --> 00:17:10,636 It just escalated from there. 392 00:17:11,798 --> 00:17:13,072 Wait a minute. 393 00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:15,113 You're telling us that this whole thing 394 00:17:15,168 --> 00:17:17,011 was because of an argument over a taxi? 395 00:17:19,139 --> 00:17:20,379 Yeah. 396 00:17:23,410 --> 00:17:25,913 Great. Search warrant's in the building. 397 00:17:26,179 --> 00:17:28,557 Now, we're sure Turner's not gonna tip off his friend? 398 00:17:28,615 --> 00:17:30,686 Not from the jail cell we got him sitting in. 399 00:17:30,751 --> 00:17:32,924 We're holding him for a material witness order. 400 00:17:32,986 --> 00:17:34,897 Figure it's better to be safe than sorry 401 00:17:34,955 --> 00:17:36,263 till the warrant gets here. 402 00:17:36,323 --> 00:17:39,133 And this whole thing comes out of a dispute over a cab? 403 00:17:39,192 --> 00:17:40,762 BRISCOE: Looks that way. 404 00:17:40,827 --> 00:17:42,204 Here's the warrant, Lieutenant, 405 00:17:42,262 --> 00:17:43,935 signed, sealed and delivered. 406 00:17:43,997 --> 00:17:45,499 VAN BUREN: Thanks. 407 00:17:46,967 --> 00:17:48,776 Ain't this something? 408 00:17:48,835 --> 00:17:52,408 Black man finally gets a cab in this city and gets killed for it. 409 00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:58,016 BURROWS: This is way out of line. 410 00:17:58,078 --> 00:18:00,991 Most people would say killing a man for a taxi is way out of line. 411 00:18:01,047 --> 00:18:03,357 Yeah, most people don't know their ass from their elbow. 412 00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:05,521 You know your ass from your elbow, Detective? 413 00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:06,996 I know an ass when I see one. 414 00:18:07,053 --> 00:18:08,123 Well, I'll tell you what, Tonto, 415 00:18:08,188 --> 00:18:10,031 if that's all you've got, then get the hell out. 416 00:18:10,090 --> 00:18:11,535 I have a date tonight. 417 00:18:11,591 --> 00:18:13,901 Yeah, I bet you're a real pistol, too. 418 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,132 Hey, Ed. ED: Yeah? 419 00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:17,237 Rounds for a 9mm. 420 00:18:17,297 --> 00:18:19,937 Oh, now you can show us where the gun is, Kemosabe. 421 00:18:20,267 --> 00:18:21,268 I don't have a gun. 422 00:18:21,334 --> 00:18:24,144 Oh, no? What do you do, throw the bullets? 423 00:18:24,204 --> 00:18:25,512 ED: Lennie. 424 00:18:30,143 --> 00:18:31,281 Take this. 425 00:18:34,114 --> 00:18:36,253 Put your hands behind your back. No, not for you. 426 00:18:36,316 --> 00:18:37,317 For him. 427 00:18:37,384 --> 00:18:39,330 You'll do whatever the hell I tell you to do. 428 00:18:39,386 --> 00:18:40,729 Now, turn around. 429 00:18:41,955 --> 00:18:43,093 (LAUGHS) 430 00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:44,499 I want to see my lawyer. 431 00:18:44,591 --> 00:18:46,468 Oh, sure. We'll just step outside 432 00:18:46,526 --> 00:18:48,802 and my partner here will flag you a cab. 433 00:18:48,862 --> 00:18:50,000 ED: Come on. 434 00:18:54,701 --> 00:18:58,843 Ballistics matched the gun as the weapon that killed Mr. Reddick. 435 00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:00,714 Burrows make any statements about the shooting? 436 00:19:00,774 --> 00:19:04,051 Never got a chance to. The guy lawyered up first thing. 437 00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:05,885 SERENA: He's got no prior criminal history. 438 00:19:05,946 --> 00:19:08,893 And we also haven't been able to establish any contact 439 00:19:08,949 --> 00:19:12,362 between him and Reddick prior to the argument over the cab. 440 00:19:12,619 --> 00:19:14,496 So what's the theory? He just snapped? 441 00:19:14,554 --> 00:19:17,091 According to Turner, they followed the victim's cab 442 00:19:17,157 --> 00:19:19,831 for almost 20 minutes before the attack. 443 00:19:20,594 --> 00:19:23,404 Which should have been plenty of time to cool off. 444 00:19:24,431 --> 00:19:26,001 What the hell's his problem? 445 00:19:26,066 --> 00:19:28,672 We think he killed this man because he was black. 446 00:19:29,736 --> 00:19:31,943 The guy went crazy when I tried to cuff him. 447 00:19:32,005 --> 00:19:33,109 SERENA: So it's a hate crime. 448 00:19:33,173 --> 00:19:35,653 VAN BUREN: Look, the man's walking around with a loaded 9mm, 449 00:19:35,709 --> 00:19:37,655 uses it without provocation. 450 00:19:37,878 --> 00:19:39,414 May not have been premeditated, 451 00:19:39,479 --> 00:19:42,187 but it sure seems pretty damned calculated. 452 00:19:45,752 --> 00:19:48,858 My client's been completely cooperative with this investigation. 453 00:19:48,922 --> 00:19:50,959 Which is the only reason he hasn't been indicted. 454 00:19:51,024 --> 00:19:54,494 Indicted for what? Scott never even got out of that cab. 455 00:19:54,561 --> 00:19:56,370 Look, I told you what happened. 456 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:59,270 But you haven't told us why it happened, Mr. Turner. 457 00:19:59,332 --> 00:20:02,643 Yeah, like why your friend Ray was walkin' around with a gun. 458 00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:03,737 I never saw a gun. 459 00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:05,646 ED: Yeah, but you knew he had one. 460 00:20:05,705 --> 00:20:07,480 That's why you and Ray were so brave that night. 461 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:10,851 SHIELDS: Look, I represent this man as a material witness. 462 00:20:10,911 --> 00:20:12,720 If he's becoming a target in this investigation, 463 00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:14,417 he has a right to know. 464 00:20:14,481 --> 00:20:16,017 You knew your friend. 465 00:20:16,082 --> 00:20:18,028 You heard him ask the driver to follow the victim. 466 00:20:18,084 --> 00:20:20,462 Don't pretend you had no idea what would happen. 467 00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:25,567 What are you after? 468 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,169 All statements made by Ray Burrows during the initial altercation 469 00:20:29,229 --> 00:20:31,402 with the victim and throughout the cab ride. 470 00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:33,603 In other words, we want to know if your buddy Ray 471 00:20:33,667 --> 00:20:35,044 called him a nigger. 472 00:20:40,273 --> 00:20:42,583 Turner says Burrows used repeated racial epithets 473 00:20:42,642 --> 00:20:45,088 during the argument and throughout the cab ride. 474 00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:47,483 What about at the scene? 475 00:20:47,547 --> 00:20:49,083 There's no eyewitness. 476 00:20:50,183 --> 00:20:53,596 Which means that his lawyer can argue that racist or not, 477 00:20:53,653 --> 00:20:55,530 this was just a crime of opportunity. 478 00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:58,091 Not if we can show Burrows has been involved in other incidents. 479 00:20:58,158 --> 00:21:01,071 Turner mentioned another altercation with a black salesman at work. 480 00:21:01,127 --> 00:21:02,162 Talk to him. 481 00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:05,505 Before we play the race card, I want to see the whole deck. 482 00:21:09,603 --> 00:21:12,516 I'm not surprised. Frankly, it was only a matter of time. 483 00:21:12,572 --> 00:21:14,882 What makes you say that? 484 00:21:14,941 --> 00:21:17,182 A few months ago, Burrows barged into my office 485 00:21:17,244 --> 00:21:19,724 and accused me of stealing a client. 486 00:21:19,779 --> 00:21:21,349 Why did he think that? 487 00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:23,087 The client was black. 488 00:21:23,149 --> 00:21:25,789 Apparently he thought Ray was condescending. 489 00:21:25,852 --> 00:21:27,729 So what happened? 490 00:21:27,787 --> 00:21:29,858 The manager reassigned the client to me, 491 00:21:29,923 --> 00:21:31,732 and when Burrows found out, he hit the roof. 492 00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:33,634 He started screaming that we were all out to get him. 493 00:21:33,693 --> 00:21:35,138 You know, black people. 494 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:39,902 And he called me an affirmative action incompetent 495 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,106 and few other things I'd rather not repeat. 496 00:21:43,503 --> 00:21:45,380 What did you do? 497 00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:49,386 I was about to smack him in his mouth only that's when I saw his gun. 498 00:21:50,477 --> 00:21:52,150 He had a gun? 499 00:21:52,212 --> 00:21:53,691 In his waistband. 500 00:21:53,747 --> 00:21:55,192 Pulled back his jacket so I could see it. 501 00:21:55,248 --> 00:21:56,318 What did you do? 502 00:21:56,383 --> 00:21:58,294 I backed the hell off. 503 00:21:58,351 --> 00:22:01,195 I mean, I thought he was going to shoot me. 504 00:22:01,254 --> 00:22:03,632 And then something caught his attention and he walked out. 505 00:22:03,957 --> 00:22:05,561 Did you report this to anyone? 506 00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:07,229 Told the boss. 507 00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:08,294 What was done? 508 00:22:09,262 --> 00:22:10,741 Burrows was fired. 509 00:22:12,365 --> 00:22:16,245 You know, it took me over a month before I could sleep again. 510 00:22:17,771 --> 00:22:19,444 I still think about it. 511 00:22:22,876 --> 00:22:25,789 The incident with the co-worker was not an isolated event. 512 00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:28,018 Pretty much everybody I spoke to said the same thing. 513 00:22:28,081 --> 00:22:31,426 Burrows goes out of his way to let people know how he feels. 514 00:22:31,985 --> 00:22:34,465 He even wrote a letter to his co-op board 515 00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:37,661 trying to get them to reject a couple buying an apartment in his building. 516 00:22:39,025 --> 00:22:42,199 Apparently Mr. Burrows has a problem with interracial couples. 517 00:22:42,929 --> 00:22:45,569 You'd at least think he'd try to be subtle. 518 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,905 Call his lawyer. Set up a meeting. 519 00:22:49,636 --> 00:22:51,377 We're going with a hate crime. 520 00:22:52,472 --> 00:22:53,712 (SIGHS) 521 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:58,211 He deserves all the time we can give him. 522 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,086 ARCHER: You can't be serious. 523 00:23:02,382 --> 00:23:04,419 That's five years on top of the murder charge. 524 00:23:04,484 --> 00:23:07,658 Your client hunted down a total stranger, killed him in cold blood. 525 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,256 Offer's 20-to-life. 526 00:23:09,322 --> 00:23:12,599 It was rage reaction to a dispute over a taxi. 527 00:23:13,326 --> 00:23:16,500 He followed this man through traffic for over 20 minutes. 528 00:23:16,563 --> 00:23:19,203 Engaged in conversation, paid the driver. 529 00:23:19,265 --> 00:23:22,769 There's more than sufficient attenuation to preclude any rage defense. 530 00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:24,611 He's got no criminal record. 531 00:23:24,971 --> 00:23:27,747 Well, then, he hit the jackpot the first time out. 532 00:23:28,541 --> 00:23:30,487 At least let's take the hate crime off the table. 533 00:23:30,543 --> 00:23:33,183 Mr. Burrows put it on the table in the first place. 534 00:23:33,246 --> 00:23:34,418 In writing. 535 00:23:36,716 --> 00:23:39,162 Which leaves me no choice but to do the same. 536 00:23:39,219 --> 00:23:41,563 You'll have my motion by the end of the day. 537 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,568 Not only can't they link this co-op board letter to the homicide, 538 00:23:49,629 --> 00:23:51,233 but they can't establish that the crime 539 00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:52,867 had anything to do with race at all. 540 00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:55,071 We can show a history of racist attitudes 541 00:23:55,135 --> 00:23:57,081 and the statements he made in the cab. 542 00:23:57,136 --> 00:24:00,117 Your Honor, this letter would be so inflammatory. It would be so prejudicial. 543 00:24:00,173 --> 00:24:01,311 That's exactly the point. 544 00:24:01,374 --> 00:24:03,115 The hate crime statute requires us to prove 545 00:24:03,176 --> 00:24:05,656 that the victim was targeted because of his race. 546 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:10,694 This letter provides a jury with a context to evaluate the defendant's motive. 547 00:24:11,918 --> 00:24:13,261 Let it in. 548 00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:15,230 Ray. No, I'm tired of all of this. 549 00:24:15,288 --> 00:24:17,268 Tired of hiding. I did the right thing. 550 00:24:17,891 --> 00:24:19,893 Your Honor, please, I'd like to call for an immediate adjournment. 551 00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:21,233 I don't want an adjournment. 552 00:24:21,294 --> 00:24:24,537 What I want is for a jury to hear why I shot the bastard. 553 00:24:24,597 --> 00:24:26,702 Judge, I object to this entire proceeding. 554 00:24:26,766 --> 00:24:28,575 It's your own motion, Mr. Archer. 555 00:24:29,369 --> 00:24:31,315 BURROWS: Let 'em see that letter, Judge. 556 00:24:31,371 --> 00:24:34,147 Let a jury hear the truth for once. 557 00:24:34,207 --> 00:24:35,709 Once a jury of my peers does, 558 00:24:35,808 --> 00:24:39,483 they'll see that we're the ones on the endangered species list. 559 00:24:39,546 --> 00:24:42,083 Obviously I have to consult with my client. 560 00:24:42,148 --> 00:24:44,788 JUDGE: Talk to him about anything you want, Counselor. 561 00:24:44,851 --> 00:24:46,228 I've heard enough. 562 00:24:47,387 --> 00:24:50,459 The defendant's letter to the co-op board comes in. 563 00:24:51,424 --> 00:24:55,873 The defendant's history of his racist attitudes comes in. 564 00:24:56,396 --> 00:24:59,468 But what I will not do is allow the People 565 00:24:59,532 --> 00:25:03,036 to use what your client just said right here. 566 00:25:05,905 --> 00:25:08,784 You're sure this wasn't some sort of stunt his lawyer pulled? 567 00:25:08,842 --> 00:25:11,448 Archer did everything but stuff a sock in his mouth. 568 00:25:11,511 --> 00:25:14,082 Well, maybe he should have. He just walked into a five-year enhancement 569 00:25:14,147 --> 00:25:16,627 of the murder charge. What is he, nuts? 570 00:25:16,683 --> 00:25:18,390 You may not be far off. 571 00:25:18,451 --> 00:25:22,024 Archer just filed notice of his intent to offer psychiatric evidence. 572 00:25:22,622 --> 00:25:24,101 An insanity defense. 573 00:25:24,424 --> 00:25:26,199 Based on what? Racism. 574 00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:30,607 He claims Burrows' hatred of blacks rises to some sort of paranoid delusion. 575 00:25:31,331 --> 00:25:33,868 The only delusion here is Archer's. 576 00:25:36,402 --> 00:25:38,712 I have a duty to defend my client any way I see fit. 577 00:25:38,771 --> 00:25:39,909 Within the bounds of law. 578 00:25:39,973 --> 00:25:42,852 Racism has never been legally recognized as a mental defect. 579 00:25:43,676 --> 00:25:47,681 I now have an expert witness, Your Honor, and he's willing to testify. 580 00:25:47,747 --> 00:25:49,624 Some rent-a-doc, Mr. Archer? 581 00:25:49,749 --> 00:25:52,195 No, a psychiatrist from the Yale Medical School 582 00:25:52,652 --> 00:25:54,222 and an African-American. 583 00:25:54,287 --> 00:25:57,200 JUDGE: And he will testify to exactly what, Mr. Archer? 584 00:25:57,256 --> 00:26:01,762 That extreme racism is a form of mental illness that should be recognized 585 00:26:01,828 --> 00:26:04,900 by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. 586 00:26:04,964 --> 00:26:06,739 Meaning that it isn't. 587 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:11,771 I'm not going to have my court turned upside down with speculation, Counselor. 588 00:26:11,838 --> 00:26:15,479 A Massachusetts court has already accepted the theory 589 00:26:15,541 --> 00:26:18,920 that racially paranoid beliefs constitute a mental defect. 590 00:26:20,013 --> 00:26:22,892 Look, all I am asking is for a chance to present my case. 591 00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:25,555 What he's asking for is a free pass. 592 00:26:25,618 --> 00:26:29,566 He does have the right to use any defense cognizable at law. 593 00:26:29,622 --> 00:26:32,569 And like it or not, this one is. 594 00:26:36,696 --> 00:26:40,337 No jury in New York's going to buy an insanity defense from an admitted racist. 595 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,470 It gets a little easier when judges let experts 596 00:26:42,535 --> 00:26:44,412 testify he's delusional. 597 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:46,006 Try selling it to a black juror. 598 00:26:46,072 --> 00:26:48,643 Only takes one to hang a jury, Jack. 599 00:26:48,708 --> 00:26:51,120 Have you taken a look at their expert's CV? 600 00:26:51,177 --> 00:26:52,850 I mean, this psychiatrist is no quack. 601 00:26:53,513 --> 00:26:56,392 If he believes what's in his own report, he's not far off. 602 00:26:56,949 --> 00:26:59,930 Why? Because psychiatry doesn't agree with him? 603 00:27:00,420 --> 00:27:02,058 You know, at one time or another 604 00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:04,328 there was no precedent for most of the mental disorders 605 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:05,767 we now allow in court. 606 00:27:05,825 --> 00:27:08,032 JACK: And I've spent more than 20 years in this office 607 00:27:08,094 --> 00:27:10,301 making sure there are less of them, not more. 608 00:27:11,331 --> 00:27:13,675 The last time, it was a black defendant 609 00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:16,577 trying to justify a murder on black rage. 610 00:27:16,636 --> 00:27:18,547 I'd no more accept that nonsense than this. 611 00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:22,909 Yeah, the irony is though if there's any truth to this theory, 612 00:27:23,710 --> 00:27:28,022 and if we'd been treating racism as a mental illness all along, 613 00:27:28,581 --> 00:27:30,618 maybe we wouldn't have a Ray Burrows. 614 00:27:30,917 --> 00:27:32,658 Or there'd be more of them. 615 00:27:33,753 --> 00:27:35,096 The only way to prevent that 616 00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:37,225 is to hold people responsible for their actions. 617 00:27:45,098 --> 00:27:47,578 You know what I read that crystallized it for me? 618 00:27:47,634 --> 00:27:49,671 Why don't you tell me? 619 00:27:49,736 --> 00:27:53,081 An account by a guy who went around shooting MRCs. 620 00:27:54,273 --> 00:27:55,616 MRCs? 621 00:27:56,409 --> 00:27:58,320 Mixed racial couples. 622 00:28:01,114 --> 00:28:05,153 See the key is, he always had to shoot the black guy first 623 00:28:05,485 --> 00:28:07,965 if he was going to shoot them both. 624 00:28:08,021 --> 00:28:10,001 Why is that, Ray? 625 00:28:10,056 --> 00:28:11,899 Because if he shot the white woman first, 626 00:28:11,958 --> 00:28:14,131 then the black man would just run away. 627 00:28:14,494 --> 00:28:19,534 But if he shot him first, then the white woman would stay to help. 628 00:28:20,566 --> 00:28:22,773 Then the shooter could get them both. 629 00:28:24,837 --> 00:28:27,545 The point is you believe black men are cowards. 630 00:28:27,607 --> 00:28:31,282 Well, the empirical evidence seems to bear that out, wouldn't you say? 631 00:28:31,344 --> 00:28:34,018 I'm more interested in what you have to say. 632 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,082 You're aware your lawyer's claiming you're delusional 633 00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:37,822 because you hold just these kinds of views? 634 00:28:37,884 --> 00:28:39,056 (MUTTERS) 635 00:28:39,118 --> 00:28:41,325 Well, I'm not delusional. Anyone who doesn't see 636 00:28:41,387 --> 00:28:44,197 that this country's being taken away from guys like you and me 637 00:28:44,257 --> 00:28:46,032 is the one who's delusional. 638 00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:50,297 You think minorities are out to get you, Mr. Burrows? 639 00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:53,370 We both know that they are. 640 00:28:55,334 --> 00:28:57,780 Don't tell me that if you were about to get on an airplane 641 00:28:57,837 --> 00:29:00,443 and there was an Arab in line that you wouldn't check him out 642 00:29:00,506 --> 00:29:02,782 just a little bit harder? 643 00:29:04,644 --> 00:29:06,624 Is that delusion, Doc? 644 00:29:10,550 --> 00:29:12,427 What's your impression of him? 645 00:29:12,485 --> 00:29:15,022 In my opinion, Ray Burrows is one scary dude. 646 00:29:15,087 --> 00:29:17,897 But he fully appreciated the nature of his actions. 647 00:29:17,957 --> 00:29:19,527 You're basing this on what? 648 00:29:19,592 --> 00:29:22,505 The fact that racism is not a mental illness. 649 00:29:22,562 --> 00:29:24,269 Yale shrink or no Yale shrink. 650 00:29:24,364 --> 00:29:25,968 No matter how severe his delusions are 651 00:29:26,032 --> 00:29:28,137 that black people pose a threat to him? 652 00:29:28,201 --> 00:29:30,181 Mr. Burrows could use a course in anger management, 653 00:29:30,236 --> 00:29:32,614 but he definitely knew what he'd done was wrong. 654 00:29:32,672 --> 00:29:36,347 Believe me, nobody tries that hard to convince me they're right otherwise. 655 00:29:40,346 --> 00:29:42,326 So what did Skoda have to say? 656 00:29:42,381 --> 00:29:43,792 What we expected. 657 00:29:44,684 --> 00:29:46,061 Do you agree with him? 658 00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:47,598 I'm just second chair. 659 00:29:47,653 --> 00:29:49,530 Oh, you don't have an opinion? 660 00:29:52,158 --> 00:29:56,971 An opinion about whether a racist should escape responsibility for murder? 661 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:03,141 (CLEARS THROAT) You mean you want the truth? 662 00:30:04,937 --> 00:30:06,575 I've been with Jack for about six months, 663 00:30:06,639 --> 00:30:10,917 and all I ever hear are people making excuses about killing other people. 664 00:30:12,078 --> 00:30:13,614 We have to hold them accountable. 665 00:30:14,514 --> 00:30:16,721 So you'd just dismiss treatment options? 666 00:30:16,783 --> 00:30:19,889 You make it sound like there are treatment options for racists. 667 00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:21,494 There aren't. 668 00:30:21,554 --> 00:30:23,659 No. There may never be. 669 00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:26,401 But still, you know, you can't let fear 670 00:30:26,459 --> 00:30:28,598 dictate your decisions about criminal justice. 671 00:30:28,895 --> 00:30:31,899 Everyone's afraid, Nora. I'm afraid. 672 00:30:33,232 --> 00:30:35,542 And it just seems like after what happened with the Towers, 673 00:30:35,601 --> 00:30:39,708 the last thing we want to do is give people a blank check to act on their hatred. 674 00:30:42,108 --> 00:30:44,145 That's interesting. 675 00:30:48,214 --> 00:30:52,185 Doctor, is it your opinion that at the time of the crime 676 00:30:52,251 --> 00:30:54,857 my client suffered from a mental disease 677 00:30:54,954 --> 00:30:58,026 which precluded his capacity to appreciate right from wrong? 678 00:30:58,291 --> 00:30:59,292 Yes, it is. 679 00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:00,632 And what was that mental defect? 680 00:31:00,693 --> 00:31:01,728 Racism. 681 00:31:01,794 --> 00:31:03,171 That is an extreme belief 682 00:31:03,229 --> 00:31:06,267 that a racial group poses a threat, unsupported by reality. 683 00:31:06,332 --> 00:31:09,472 Hmm. So what about Ray Burrows? 684 00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:12,607 I believe his racist attitudes so interfered with his behavior 685 00:31:12,672 --> 00:31:13,946 that he thought that killing Mr. Reddick 686 00:31:14,006 --> 00:31:16,885 was not only not wrong, it actually was justified. 687 00:31:16,943 --> 00:31:19,480 You're not saying we shouldn't hold him accountable? 688 00:31:19,545 --> 00:31:21,616 I'm saying he's in need of psychiatric help. 689 00:31:21,981 --> 00:31:23,824 If we want to do anything about prevention, 690 00:31:23,883 --> 00:31:26,625 we must consider racism as a form of mental disorder. 691 00:31:27,353 --> 00:31:28,855 Thank you, Doctor. 692 00:31:33,592 --> 00:31:35,697 What about blacks killing whites? 693 00:31:35,761 --> 00:31:37,638 It doesn't matter who kills whom. 694 00:31:37,697 --> 00:31:40,940 Not as long as the individual suffers from racist delusions. 695 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,276 You're not suggesting that African-Americans 696 00:31:43,336 --> 00:31:45,373 haven't been discriminated against in this country? 697 00:31:45,438 --> 00:31:46,781 Of course not. 698 00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:50,082 Meaning that you wouldn't consider those perceptions delusional. 699 00:31:50,943 --> 00:31:52,581 Perhaps not. 700 00:31:52,645 --> 00:31:53,885 So whites would be the only ones 701 00:31:53,946 --> 00:31:56,256 who could benefit from this diagnosis. 702 00:31:57,516 --> 00:32:01,726 You also maintain the defendant believes that what he did was right. 703 00:32:01,787 --> 00:32:02,993 Yes. 704 00:32:03,456 --> 00:32:06,528 How is it then that he concealed his crime from the police? 705 00:32:06,592 --> 00:32:09,698 Society doesn't encourage people to admit being racist. 706 00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:12,072 If fact, we ostracize them when they do. 707 00:32:12,131 --> 00:32:15,806 We did the same thing to people suffering from cancer in the '50s, 708 00:32:15,868 --> 00:32:17,506 AIDS in the '80s. 709 00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:20,312 You'd compare a racist to a cancer patient? 710 00:32:20,373 --> 00:32:23,252 Only in the way society considers them. 711 00:32:23,309 --> 00:32:26,722 Consider that Mr. Burrows wrote a racist letter to his co-op board. 712 00:32:26,779 --> 00:32:28,315 Nobody said anything to him. 713 00:32:28,381 --> 00:32:30,122 Now, had he said he was suffering from depression, 714 00:32:30,182 --> 00:32:33,095 they may very well have recommended psychological treatment. 715 00:32:33,152 --> 00:32:35,826 Only there is no treatment for the racist. 716 00:32:35,888 --> 00:32:38,835 Because your view has been specifically rejected 717 00:32:38,891 --> 00:32:41,371 by the American Psychiatric Association. 718 00:32:41,427 --> 00:32:42,906 Unfortunately, yes. 719 00:32:42,962 --> 00:32:47,104 In fact, racism isn't mentioned anywhere in the DSM-IV, 720 00:32:47,166 --> 00:32:48,509 is it, Doctor? 721 00:32:48,567 --> 00:32:50,410 Until 1974, 722 00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:53,678 being gay was considered a mental disorder in this very book. 723 00:32:53,739 --> 00:32:58,313 Until a consensus was formed among psychiatrists that its inclusion was wrong. 724 00:32:59,545 --> 00:33:02,822 But there's no consensus for what you're proposing, is there, Doctor? 725 00:33:02,882 --> 00:33:04,725 Not at this time, no. 726 00:33:04,784 --> 00:33:08,630 A great many people think negative thoughts about other people, 727 00:33:09,088 --> 00:33:11,534 but they don't break the law because of them. 728 00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:14,867 But when racist thoughts are coupled with threats of violence, 729 00:33:14,927 --> 00:33:17,737 that moves into the territory of mental illness. 730 00:33:17,797 --> 00:33:20,175 So it's outcome determinative. 731 00:33:20,232 --> 00:33:22,610 The racist's views become delusional 732 00:33:22,668 --> 00:33:25,239 only when they escalate into an act of violence. 733 00:33:25,671 --> 00:33:29,642 When the racist's mental processes interfere with normal functioning. 734 00:33:30,976 --> 00:33:34,048 Without regard to whether Mr. Burrows 735 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,786 was actually able to appreciate the nature of his actions or not. 736 00:33:43,856 --> 00:33:45,802 It's a theory in search of a patient. 737 00:33:47,593 --> 00:33:50,802 I know firsthand what it is to experience prejudice, Mr. McCoy. 738 00:33:51,831 --> 00:33:55,040 But if we continue to deny racism as a form of mental illness 739 00:33:55,634 --> 00:33:57,409 and attack it solely on cultural grounds, 740 00:33:57,470 --> 00:33:59,848 we lose any chance to treat it. 741 00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:02,084 No, sir. 742 00:34:02,141 --> 00:34:05,782 By creating an excuse, we lose any chance to punish it. 743 00:34:15,354 --> 00:34:16,958 In my opinion, at the time of the crime, 744 00:34:17,023 --> 00:34:20,698 Ray Burrows was oriented to reality and able to control his actions. 745 00:34:21,193 --> 00:34:23,366 So you disagree with Dr. Bernard's theory 746 00:34:23,429 --> 00:34:26,433 that racism qualifies as a delusional disorder. 747 00:34:26,499 --> 00:34:29,309 It's pretty much the entire psychiatric community. 748 00:34:30,336 --> 00:34:32,316 I mean, if we're going to say everyone who espouses 749 00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:34,578 bigoted beliefs has a mental illness, 750 00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:38,285 we stretch the term mental illness beyond any usefulness. 751 00:34:38,344 --> 00:34:41,120 What about his assertion that racism can be treated? 752 00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:42,591 How? Through talk therapy? 753 00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:45,492 I doubt that's likely to be very effective. 754 00:34:45,918 --> 00:34:48,660 Racism simply is not a matter of individual pathology. 755 00:34:48,721 --> 00:34:51,702 That's why it's not included in the DSM-IV. 756 00:34:53,025 --> 00:34:54,299 Nothing further. 757 00:34:56,095 --> 00:35:00,009 So, exactly what research was done 758 00:35:00,066 --> 00:35:02,774 prior to removing homosexuality from the DSM-IV? 759 00:35:03,035 --> 00:35:04,639 A consensus was reached 760 00:35:04,703 --> 00:35:07,946 that homosexuality didn't meet the criteria for a mental disease. 761 00:35:08,007 --> 00:35:11,853 Well, the fact is, it was a social policy decision, wasn't it, Doctor? 762 00:35:11,911 --> 00:35:14,824 The decision wasn't based on any research at all. 763 00:35:15,681 --> 00:35:19,094 Now, what about racism? What's the research being done there? 764 00:35:19,151 --> 00:35:21,222 I'm not aware of any research being done. 765 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:24,234 Again, because the psychiatric community 766 00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:26,998 continually rejects proposals to study the issue. 767 00:35:28,027 --> 00:35:31,702 Which means that any lack of inclusion of racism 768 00:35:31,764 --> 00:35:34,244 as a mental illness in this book, 769 00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:36,570 has very little to do with science 770 00:35:36,635 --> 00:35:39,673 and almost everything to do with politics. 771 00:35:46,245 --> 00:35:48,486 They say I'm sick. I don't know. 772 00:35:48,547 --> 00:35:51,084 All I can tell you is that I feel pretty good about what I did. 773 00:35:51,317 --> 00:35:54,560 About killing Mr. Reddick? That's right. 774 00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:57,726 Social courtesies mean nothing to these people. 775 00:35:57,790 --> 00:35:59,360 I mean, you ever try to see a movie 776 00:35:59,425 --> 00:36:00,927 with black people in the audience? 777 00:36:00,993 --> 00:36:02,597 You can't hear a thing. 778 00:36:03,362 --> 00:36:06,809 I mean, the sign's up there, "Please, no talking." 779 00:36:06,866 --> 00:36:08,641 But do they listen? 780 00:36:09,702 --> 00:36:11,272 When this guy jumped in front of me like that, 781 00:36:11,337 --> 00:36:13,977 like he thought he was better than me, that was it. 782 00:36:14,907 --> 00:36:16,352 The line was drawn. 783 00:36:17,009 --> 00:36:18,955 So what was going through your mind? 784 00:36:19,011 --> 00:36:21,355 Here he was, going wherever he wanted, 785 00:36:21,914 --> 00:36:24,121 doing whatever he wanted and me... 786 00:36:25,618 --> 00:36:28,394 I mean, they can decide they don't want to work with me, 787 00:36:28,454 --> 00:36:31,298 but I can't say I don't want to live with them? 788 00:36:32,491 --> 00:36:35,597 I lost my job because of these people. 789 00:36:35,661 --> 00:36:37,800 The bank is foreclosing on my home. 790 00:36:37,863 --> 00:36:40,366 I was not about to lose that cab. 791 00:36:49,041 --> 00:36:53,285 You feel justified taking Mr. Reddick's life because he took your cab? 792 00:36:53,345 --> 00:36:54,722 That's right. 793 00:36:58,317 --> 00:37:00,388 Then why didn't you tell your friend what you'd done? 794 00:37:00,853 --> 00:37:02,833 Why didn't you tell the police? 795 00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:04,333 They never asked. 796 00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:06,028 Because you requested a lawyer. 797 00:37:07,226 --> 00:37:09,137 Because from the very start, 798 00:37:09,195 --> 00:37:12,039 you were looking for a way out, weren't you, Mr. Burrows? 799 00:37:12,097 --> 00:37:14,509 Because you didn't want to pay for what you'd done. 800 00:37:14,567 --> 00:37:15,875 Not true. 801 00:37:17,236 --> 00:37:21,309 But you made Mr. Reddick pay. Pay with his life. 802 00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:26,848 And then you dragged his body down those steps 803 00:37:26,912 --> 00:37:28,414 to hide your crime. 804 00:37:29,048 --> 00:37:30,322 I dragged his body down there 805 00:37:30,382 --> 00:37:33,056 because that's where the rest of the garbage was. 806 00:37:37,089 --> 00:37:40,434 Not all the garbage, Mr. Burrows, not all the garbage. 807 00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:42,369 ARCHER: Objection. JUDGE: Sustained. 808 00:37:52,338 --> 00:37:55,114 Do you think that African-Americans pose a threat? 809 00:37:56,041 --> 00:37:57,748 I know they do. 810 00:37:57,810 --> 00:38:00,450 But you've come into contact with other black people 811 00:38:00,513 --> 00:38:01,890 before Mr. Reddick. 812 00:38:01,947 --> 00:38:03,426 You never killed them. 813 00:38:07,686 --> 00:38:09,859 What about this juror? 814 00:38:12,491 --> 00:38:15,233 She's been here for the entire trial, 815 00:38:15,294 --> 00:38:18,002 and yet you don't seem to have had a problem. 816 00:38:18,063 --> 00:38:20,134 That's a very sensible attitude 817 00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:23,612 for a man in your position to take, isn't it, Mr. Burrows? 818 00:38:24,570 --> 00:38:27,551 Because she's helping to decide your fate. 819 00:38:30,910 --> 00:38:32,890 So are you insane, Mr. Burrows? 820 00:38:34,647 --> 00:38:37,992 Or are you just a man who knows how to keep his mouth shut 821 00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:40,553 when he's supposed to and how to lose his mind 822 00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:42,656 when his lawyer tells him to? 823 00:38:53,299 --> 00:38:57,247 Is there anyone here who heard what Ray Burrows said in this courtroom 824 00:38:57,303 --> 00:39:00,079 who doesn't believe that he is sick? 825 00:39:00,139 --> 00:39:03,052 Who doesn't find his hatred of other human beings, 826 00:39:03,375 --> 00:39:07,881 solely based on the color of their skin, so twisted, 827 00:39:08,547 --> 00:39:11,994 so abnormal that you wouldn't be able to find mental illness? 828 00:39:12,618 --> 00:39:16,122 My client belongs in a psychiatric institution, not a prison. 829 00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:18,129 You know that, you know that. 830 00:39:18,757 --> 00:39:20,668 And yet, in a few moments, 831 00:39:20,726 --> 00:39:23,707 the D.A. is going to ask you to forget what you know. 832 00:39:24,296 --> 00:39:25,707 Because as a prosecutor, 833 00:39:25,764 --> 00:39:29,177 he is more interested in punishing Ray Burrows 834 00:39:29,435 --> 00:39:32,473 than he is in preventing more people from becoming like him. 835 00:39:33,505 --> 00:39:34,984 Spare the rod, spoil the racist. 836 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,917 That's how his argument goes. 837 00:39:36,975 --> 00:39:39,751 But unless we recognize racism 838 00:39:39,812 --> 00:39:42,759 as the delusional mental disorder that it is, 839 00:39:43,115 --> 00:39:46,528 people like my client, they're not going to get the treatment they need. 840 00:39:46,585 --> 00:39:50,397 Which in the final analysis is what this case boils down to. 841 00:39:50,789 --> 00:39:52,234 Whether as a society, 842 00:39:52,825 --> 00:39:55,305 we stand a better chance of preventing racism 843 00:39:56,361 --> 00:39:59,501 by punishing someone who commits a racist act 844 00:40:02,401 --> 00:40:05,814 or treating them before they can. 845 00:40:17,683 --> 00:40:18,957 I'm sorry. 846 00:40:19,017 --> 00:40:22,464 This defense would be laughable if it weren't so dangerous. 847 00:40:23,856 --> 00:40:26,132 We live in a world where people commit 848 00:40:26,191 --> 00:40:29,695 unspeakable violent acts against other people. 849 00:40:30,896 --> 00:40:35,936 Terrorists, racists, anyone who kills out of hate. 850 00:40:38,203 --> 00:40:40,376 Do we hold them accountable, 851 00:40:41,307 --> 00:40:44,720 or do we excuse their acts and sit them down for a chat 852 00:40:45,244 --> 00:40:47,554 to tell them that it's wrong? 853 00:40:48,414 --> 00:40:51,418 In the world the defense would create, 854 00:40:51,483 --> 00:40:54,396 murderers would never be held responsible. 855 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,197 In that world, right and wrong would lose all meaning. 856 00:40:59,024 --> 00:41:00,560 Killers would become victims. 857 00:41:01,627 --> 00:41:05,040 The only one who would benefit from the defendant 858 00:41:05,097 --> 00:41:08,476 being found mentally ill is the defendant. 859 00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:12,014 Not society. 860 00:41:12,070 --> 00:41:13,777 Certainly not the victim. 861 00:41:16,742 --> 00:41:19,951 Not Thomas Reddick or his family, 862 00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:24,060 or anyone else with his skin color. 863 00:41:25,284 --> 00:41:29,824 To excuse Ray Burrows because of his prejudice 864 00:41:30,322 --> 00:41:31,892 only promotes racism. 865 00:41:34,326 --> 00:41:36,704 What happened to Thomas Reddick 866 00:41:36,762 --> 00:41:38,935 is a crime of hate. 867 00:41:42,301 --> 00:41:46,613 To call it anything else is to deny justice. 868 00:41:58,951 --> 00:42:00,589 Madame Foreman, 869 00:42:01,420 --> 00:42:03,024 has the jury reached its verdict? 870 00:42:03,455 --> 00:42:04,763 We have, Your Honor. 871 00:42:04,823 --> 00:42:06,666 Will the defendant please rise? 872 00:42:10,662 --> 00:42:12,232 What is your verdict? 873 00:42:12,297 --> 00:42:15,835 On the charge of Murder in the Second Degree as a Hate Crime, 874 00:42:15,901 --> 00:42:17,642 we find the defendant guilty. 875 00:42:32,217 --> 00:42:34,424 I wonder if Burrows will still have a problem with minorities 876 00:42:34,486 --> 00:42:36,523 once he gets to prison and finds out he is one. 877 00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:37,794 Check back with him in 40 years. 878 00:42:37,856 --> 00:42:40,496 By then, he might be ready for an insanity defense. 879 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:42,698 To kill out of hate, then be exempt from punishment, 880 00:42:42,761 --> 00:42:44,536 that'd be the real insanity. 881 00:42:44,586 --> 00:42:49,136 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 71880

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