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NARRATOR:
In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups,
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the police
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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My kid wants 60
bucks for one card.
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Hey, we had baseball,
they got Pok?mon.
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Hey, Thurman Munson
never cost me 60 bucks.
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Oh, man.
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What's the matter?
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Thing weighs a ton.
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Well, check it out. Could
be a computer or somethin'.
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Whatever it is, I want half.
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I don't think so.
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(CHATTER ON POLICE RADIO)
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Male, 16. Wrapped up in a
blanket, then double bagged.
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(SIREN WAILING)
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Slashed once on the neck.
ED: Damn.
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BRISCOE: So who is he?
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School ID from Jameson High.
Name's Chris Skinner.
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Mother called the precinct last
night, reported him missing.
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Here's his address.
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Columbus.
About 10 blocks north.
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Anybody see the bag get dumped?
We're on it.
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Could've been dragged from
any one of these buildings.
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Or somebody drove
up with a delivery.
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Is that Chris?
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Who called her?
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Not us.
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What a coincidence What,
she just showed up?
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Chris never came
home for dinner.
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I called his friends, looked
around the neighborhood.
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Then I called the police.
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They didn't find him.
And now he's dead.
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How did you happen to come to
the murder scene Ms. Skinner?
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A friend heard it on the news.
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A dead boy on 56th Street.
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Are you married,
Ms. Skinner?
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Boyfriend?
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No. Why?
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These are just standard
questions, Ms. Skinner.
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I would never let
anyone hurt Chris.
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(STAMMERS) I need a cigarette.
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An officer will walk you out.
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When did patrol get
there last night?
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9:20. About 10 minutes
after she called 911.
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They canvassed the neighborhood,
searched his building.
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And the apartment?
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Yeah, and the car.
Nothing suspicious.
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Just a missing kid.
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Fax from the kid's school.
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Two years ago,
he came in all beat up.
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They called
Children's Services.
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Chris and his mom said
he fell down some stairs.
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May be this time he
fell down on a knife.
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I make time of death
about 5:00 p.m.
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What's this on his arm?
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It's from yesterday.
I'm guessin' a grab mark.
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Or from getting banged
around in the bag?
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People don't bruise so
easy when they're dead.
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So you can't tell if he was
dragged, carried or beamed down.
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Any signs of abuse?
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Either that or he played
serious contact sports.
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Found some edema on his
right shoulder and side.
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He got popped a
couple of weeks ago.
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ED: Not like
this time.
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Interesting wound.
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At least a six-inch blade based
on the length of the cut.
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And I'm guessing a blade
with a wide curve.
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What, like a scythe?
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Well, whatever it was, it hacked
into his artery and he bled out.
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All over that blanket.
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Must've been washed recently.
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No hairs, no fingernails,
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no fibers that didn't
come from the blanket.
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And the garbage bags
are no good for prints.
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Good enough for dumpin' a body.
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Extra large. Three-millimeter, heavy
duty, high-density polyethylene.
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Not something you'd
find in your kitchen.
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There were cigarette ash
and tobacco particles
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on the outside
of the outer bag,
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stuck to some dried blood.
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What brand?
American, menthol.
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Can't give you more until we
get it back from the lab.
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Stuff could have been
picked up on the sidewalk.
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Or a smoke after
to calm your nerves.
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Sorry to hear the
boy got killed,
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but I have to be at a
divorce hearing in an hour.
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I don't have time for
this Make him wait.
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You hear any commotion in the
Skinner's apartment yesterday?
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Thick walls, okay? Only good
thing about this building.
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She have any boyfriends
staying over?
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I'm not interested in
the woman's sex life.
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Uh, did you ever hear
her get mad at her son?
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You think I stand in the hall
with my ear to the door?
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We love nosy people.
We gotta ask.
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Any idea what kind of
cigarettes she smokes?
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I've seen her at the
deli around the corner.
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ED: Long brown hair.
She smokes.
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She might have come
in with her son.
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I know them. They walk by
here to church every Sunday.
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She ever buy cigarettes here?
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Yeah. Uh,
Deauville Lights.
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Not exactly American menthol.
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I saw 'em yesterday.
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When?
About 4:15.
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He was out here with another boy,
selling candy bars for school.
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I sell candy too, so
I told 'em to go away.
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- You know the other boy?
- No.
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What did he look like?
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Spanish kid.
Uh, teenager.
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I'm sorry I yelled at them.
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Thanks.
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Maybe the kid sold
some bad candy.
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(BELL RINGING)
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MAN: I just heard.
My God.
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Uh, Chris was sellin' chocolate
bars for the school.
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The office pointed us
in your direction. Why?
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We figure he got killed
while he was hawkin' candy.
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Oh, I hope it wasn't that.
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Our Weightlifting Club just started
a fundraising drive yesterday.
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The boys were out
selling Neptune bars
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to, uh, raise money
for new equipment.
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Somebody else from the club
was with him yesterday.
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Could have been Terry Sanchez.
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When Chris joined
the club a month ago
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Terry kind of took
him under his wing.
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You know, help pushed
him through his reps.
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Terry show up today?
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I think I saw him.
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We only sold like one candy
bar in about half an hour.
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Then the Korean guy ran us off.
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Where'd you and Chris go?
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We split up. Figured,
why stand on the street
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when I could sell a whole
box to my grandmother?
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And that's where you
were at five o'clock?
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Yeah.
What about Chris?
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He was gonna sell door to
door above 56th Street.
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Why 56th?
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Said there was a big
building with no doorman.
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It'd be easy to get in.
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You and Chris were
buddies, huh?
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Yeah, I guess you
could say that.
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I shoulda went with him.
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Maybe not.
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BRISCOE: ls the
doorman on a break?
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Yeah, since '96. Co-op board
decided they're too expensive.
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I'm the super.
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I'm Detective Briscoe.
This is Detective...
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Ooh-hoo! Two o'clock!
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Hey, follow the shiny badge.
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You see this kid
yesterday afternoon?
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May have been going door to
door with a box of candy?
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Uh, I wasn't here
yesterday afternoon.
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But I know that boy, all right.
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A couple of weeks ago,
right across the street,
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he was messin' with one of
the kids from the building.
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I ran after him. Had him
pushed up against the wall.
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Who was the kid
from the building?
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Uh, skinny kid.
Always wears black.
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Ryan Velardi, 12C.
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RYAN: I got home
right after school.
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But no one came
around sellin' candy.
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Where were your parents?
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At work.
Like they are now.
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What about you? Is this
about the dead kid?
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What makes you think that?
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He was found right
down the street.
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Yeah, you guys know him?
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Nah.
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What school you go to?
Jameson High.
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Same school as Chris Skinner.
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I knew who he was. We just
never hung out together.
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How about a couple of weeks ago, when
he had you shoved up against the wall?
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Where'd you hear that?
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Look, maybe you should come
back when my parents get home.
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ED: What's he
got to hide?
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They'll be home from
work around 10:00.
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Why don't we call them?
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You can't reach them now.
We'll be back later.
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Charming pair.
Parents work till 10:00?
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Maybe they're cops.
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Hey, Lennie.
What the hell?
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They won't have bags
that big up here.
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Couldn't fit a large pizza
box into one of these.
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Yeah?
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How about this?
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Neptune Bars.
"Not for retail."
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I want my brother here.
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Ryan, relax. He's right
across the hall.
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Then why can't he come in?
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Don't worry about it.
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Just me and you.
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I didn't do anything.
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Mmm, you lied about
Chris Skinner.
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I'm not lying.
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Come on, man.
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The two of you had beef.
He chased you.
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I barely know the kid.
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You saw him after school on Thursday.
I didn't.
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So it was just a coincidence
that he was sellin' candy
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on your floor at the
same time he got killed?
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Yeah, I guess.
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Don't play me!
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You really think you're gonna
get up and walk outta here?
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You and your brother
both are down with this.
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You got him to help you drag the
bag downstairs, didn't you?
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No.
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Come on, man. We're getting
fingerprints off your door.
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You're lyin' to me,
you're goin' to Rikers.
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I'm only 16.
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Mmm-hmm. And they got a place for
little boys like you out there.
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You think you're scared now, wait'll
they get a hold of your little ass.
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I'm not saying anything
till I talk to my brother.
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I wasn't even home on Thursday.
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BRISCOE: What time did you get in?
Like 6:30.
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Your brother mention anything about
Chris Skinner comin' around?
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He told you,
he hardly knows him.
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He was havin' problems
with this kid, wasn't he?
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What kind of problems?
Come on, Ricky.
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We got a witness who saw Chris
goin after your brother.
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I don't really get all involved
in my brother's social life.
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Maybe there's somethin
goin' on with him.
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Like what?
You gotta ask him.
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What kind of knives
do you and Ryan have?
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We don't have any knives.
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(KNOCK ON DOOR)
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Mr. Velardi's lawyer.
Uh, interview's over.
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Unless you have some
evidence I don't know about.
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COVEN: Let's go.
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We searched their apartment.
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No blood, no bags
and no prints.
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We know the victim
was up there.
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His prints were
on the candy box.
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Could be coincidence.
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Ryan had motive. The dead
kid was hassling him.
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One witness, one incident.
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Are you saying my son
was bullying this boy?
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High school can
be a rough place.
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Sometimes you gotta act tough
to keep the wolves at bay.
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Chris wouldn't hurt anyone.
I'm sure of that.
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BRISCOE: Our M.E. said
he was all bruised up.
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He was?
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BRISCOE: Did he mention
being in a fight?
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Ever get a call
from the school?
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Detention? Anything
like that?
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MARCIA: No.
248
00:10:34,810 --> 00:10:37,552
But Chris wasn't doing all
that well when school started.
249
00:10:38,347 --> 00:10:40,520
I just thought he didn't
like his teachers.
250
00:10:40,583 --> 00:10:42,563
When you say he
wasn't doing well...
251
00:10:45,187 --> 00:10:46,996
He didn't really talk to me.
252
00:10:48,190 --> 00:10:51,296
But the last few weeks,
he seemed a lot better.
253
00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:53,403
Around the time he joined
the Weightlifting Club.
254
00:10:54,130 --> 00:10:55,609
Chris was lifting weights?
255
00:10:57,299 --> 00:10:58,778
He'd never done that before?
256
00:10:59,135 --> 00:11:00,239
No.
257
00:11:00,302 --> 00:11:02,339
BRISCOE: Anything else
unusual going on?
258
00:11:05,674 --> 00:11:10,714
I found a pamphlet on his desk
about conflict resolution.
259
00:11:11,113 --> 00:11:15,061
I thought it was just something that
they gave everybody at his school.
260
00:11:16,752 --> 00:11:19,028
(CRYING) I meant to
ask him about it.
261
00:11:19,088 --> 00:11:21,159
I was just so busy lately.
262
00:11:25,027 --> 00:11:26,836
Are you going to
be okay, ma'am?
263
00:11:27,663 --> 00:11:29,142
I don't know.
264
00:11:35,771 --> 00:11:38,752
So the student has a problem, he sits
down with a group of peer counselors.
265
00:11:38,808 --> 00:11:40,253
They try and talk it out.
266
00:11:40,443 --> 00:11:42,514
And if that doesn't work,
they grab their guns.
267
00:11:42,578 --> 00:11:46,492
(LAUGHS) I hate to disappoint you,
Detective, but Jameson's a magnet school.
268
00:11:46,549 --> 00:11:49,928
We don't really have the violence
prevalent in bigger city schools.
269
00:11:49,985 --> 00:11:52,488
If a kid requested intervention,
would you know about it?
270
00:11:52,555 --> 00:11:53,761
I'm supposed to.
271
00:11:53,823 --> 00:11:54,961
Chris Skinner?
272
00:11:55,458 --> 00:11:58,439
Uh, no. Chris was in my math
class, but he never came here.
273
00:11:58,494 --> 00:11:59,666
He had one of your handouts.
274
00:11:59,728 --> 00:12:01,537
Any sense of what
was bothering him?
275
00:12:02,498 --> 00:12:05,945
There's a lot of tension between
the various cliques, you know?
276
00:12:06,001 --> 00:12:09,380
The jocks diss the freaks. The
hip-hop kids diss the nerds.
277
00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:11,245
Any fights?
278
00:12:11,307 --> 00:12:13,548
Uh, not that I'm aware of.
279
00:12:13,609 --> 00:12:15,919
The psychological torture
can get pretty nasty.
280
00:12:15,978 --> 00:12:18,288
It can drive a weak
kid to self-destruct.
281
00:12:18,380 --> 00:12:20,121
Or to destruct some other kid.
282
00:12:20,249 --> 00:12:23,093
Was Chris in one of the cliques?
I'm not sure.
283
00:12:23,152 --> 00:12:25,223
What about a kid
named Ryan Velardi?
284
00:12:26,355 --> 00:12:27,629
I don't recognize that name.
285
00:12:27,923 --> 00:12:29,834
Dark greasy hair,
black clothes.
286
00:12:29,892 --> 00:12:32,896
Mascara, black nail polish?
He'd be a Goth.
287
00:12:33,162 --> 00:12:34,402
Just black clothes.
288
00:12:34,630 --> 00:12:36,405
Oh, then he'd be
with the freaks.
289
00:12:43,372 --> 00:12:44,851
I just lost my appetite.
290
00:12:44,907 --> 00:12:46,682
ED: We just have
a few questions.
291
00:12:46,742 --> 00:12:48,517
This has gotta be
about Chris Skinner.
292
00:12:48,577 --> 00:12:51,683
It's about Ryan Velardi. He
hangs out with you guys, right?
293
00:12:52,047 --> 00:12:53,048
Sometimes.
294
00:12:53,115 --> 00:12:55,618
He's got a PlayStation
and some ill video games.
295
00:12:55,684 --> 00:12:57,664
He ever have any
problems with Skinner?
296
00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,427
Aside from Chris being a geek?
297
00:12:59,488 --> 00:13:00,933
It sounds like you and
Skinner didn't get along.
298
00:13:00,990 --> 00:13:02,731
We didn't have anything
to do with him.
299
00:13:02,791 --> 00:13:04,771
He didn't have any
classes with you?
300
00:13:04,827 --> 00:13:06,807
Ask Jon.
He's in Special Ed.
301
00:13:06,862 --> 00:13:08,671
(LAUGHS SARCASTICALLY) Shut up.
302
00:13:08,731 --> 00:13:11,211
We didn't hate him or anything.
He was just shallow.
303
00:13:11,267 --> 00:13:12,610
Practically a skater-oid.
304
00:13:12,668 --> 00:13:14,170
A what?
BOY: A skater.
305
00:13:14,503 --> 00:13:16,483
You know, baggy
pants, no brains.
306
00:13:16,705 --> 00:13:18,480
Ah, that would make him
stand out around here.
307
00:13:18,541 --> 00:13:19,747
Thanks.
308
00:13:21,443 --> 00:13:22,945
I bummed a cigarette
off Chris a few times,
309
00:13:23,012 --> 00:13:24,320
but he didn't really
hang out with us.
310
00:13:24,380 --> 00:13:26,792
Did he ever say anything
about Ryan Velardi?
311
00:13:26,916 --> 00:13:28,190
He was kind of quiet.
312
00:13:28,284 --> 00:13:30,355
Maybe Chris had a
grudge against him.
313
00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:32,226
Is that what the
freaks told you?
314
00:13:32,288 --> 00:13:34,564
We think Chris was pickin'
on this Velardi kid.
315
00:13:34,723 --> 00:13:36,259
GIRL: Doesn't
sound like him.
316
00:13:36,458 --> 00:13:38,768
Chris was in my
Modern Lit class.
317
00:13:38,827 --> 00:13:40,704
He was like,
you know, sensitive.
318
00:13:41,297 --> 00:13:42,469
Sensitive?
319
00:13:42,531 --> 00:13:44,340
He was. When we
did poetry,
320
00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,846
he recited a Kurt
Cobain song in class.
321
00:13:46,902 --> 00:13:48,609
When did he start pumpin' iron?
322
00:13:48,804 --> 00:13:50,681
Serious?
Chris Skinner lifting?
323
00:13:51,573 --> 00:13:54,247
I guess you don't really know what
anybody's really like inside.
324
00:13:54,877 --> 00:13:56,754
So there's nothing between
him and the freaks?
325
00:13:56,845 --> 00:13:58,347
We would've heard something.
326
00:13:58,514 --> 00:13:59,720
Thanks for your help.
327
00:13:59,782 --> 00:14:03,594
Chris asks about counseling,
he starts some weight lifting.
328
00:14:03,719 --> 00:14:06,393
I don't see the bully. I'm
seein' the 98 pound weakling.
329
00:14:06,455 --> 00:14:08,833
I just wonder who kicked
sand in his face.
330
00:14:10,259 --> 00:14:12,865
Chris started showin' up to
work out like a month ago.
331
00:14:12,928 --> 00:14:15,169
BRISCOE: Why a sudden
interest in body building?
332
00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:18,643
Said he wanted to get cut. Then maybe the
jerks in school would leave him alone.
333
00:14:18,701 --> 00:14:20,612
Which jerks are
we talkin' about?
334
00:14:20,669 --> 00:14:22,740
Hey, man, in this place?
Take your pick.
335
00:14:22,805 --> 00:14:24,216
Between you and me,
what do you think?
336
00:14:28,777 --> 00:14:29,983
I don't know.
337
00:14:31,647 --> 00:14:33,251
Who you protecting?
338
00:14:33,349 --> 00:14:34,521
The kid who killed your buddy?
339
00:14:36,852 --> 00:14:39,196
I think Chris was having some
problems with the freaks.
340
00:14:39,254 --> 00:14:40,597
Who in particular?
341
00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:42,264
There's like 10 or 12 of them.
342
00:14:42,925 --> 00:14:44,199
We need the names.
343
00:14:48,163 --> 00:14:50,541
You talked to my son
at school already.
344
00:14:50,599 --> 00:14:52,909
BRISCOE: Look, we just need to ask
a couple of follow-up questions.
345
00:14:52,968 --> 00:14:55,005
Uh-huh.
You think Jon's involved?
346
00:14:55,070 --> 00:14:56,879
I'll take care of it, Sandra.
347
00:14:59,742 --> 00:15:01,949
The boy's body was found just
down the block from here.
348
00:15:02,011 --> 00:15:04,252
It's probably a coincidence
but we need to check it out.
349
00:15:04,313 --> 00:15:05,621
Well, what do you want to know?
350
00:15:05,681 --> 00:15:07,251
We'd rather talk to him.
351
00:15:07,316 --> 00:15:09,193
Right now, you'll
have to talk to me.
352
00:15:09,685 --> 00:15:11,756
Where was your son
Thursday afternoon?
353
00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:15,231
He needs an alibi?
That'd be a start.
354
00:15:15,524 --> 00:15:18,095
(STAMMERS) Well, I think I'd
like to see a lawyer first.
355
00:15:18,627 --> 00:15:21,073
I gotta tell you, you're not
helping your boy like this.
356
00:15:21,263 --> 00:15:22,799
Do you have a business card?
357
00:15:26,535 --> 00:15:28,606
Detective Green, um,
358
00:15:28,671 --> 00:15:31,311
I'll call you when Jon's ready
to be interviewed, all right?
359
00:15:31,774 --> 00:15:33,151
Good night.
360
00:15:34,810 --> 00:15:36,118
Bingo.
361
00:15:36,178 --> 00:15:38,488
Maybe somebody up here
bought a Neptune bar.
362
00:15:39,481 --> 00:15:41,825
I was home all
day Thursday. Why?
363
00:15:41,884 --> 00:15:45,127
Anybody come to your door around
five, six o'clock sellin' candy?
364
00:15:45,287 --> 00:15:46,960
No.
You know the Telfords?
365
00:15:47,356 --> 00:15:49,529
Who, the family down
the hall? Not really.
366
00:15:49,992 --> 00:15:52,131
Those Bronco Menthols? Yeah, man.
You want one?
367
00:15:52,394 --> 00:15:53,873
Yeah, for later.
368
00:15:54,063 --> 00:15:55,736
You ever smoke out
here in the hallway?
369
00:15:55,798 --> 00:15:57,539
My wife won't let me
smoke in the apartment.
370
00:15:57,599 --> 00:15:58,942
Yeah?
Where do you go?
371
00:16:00,035 --> 00:16:02,174
She makes me stand out here.
372
00:16:04,206 --> 00:16:06,208
BRISCOE: You always leave
your butts on the floor?
373
00:16:06,341 --> 00:16:08,947
I know, I know. Super's
been on me about it.
374
00:16:09,011 --> 00:16:11,150
Says he always has
to mop up after me.
375
00:16:11,914 --> 00:16:14,292
I throw him an extra 20
around Christmas, you know.
376
00:16:14,349 --> 00:16:17,455
You hear anything unusual goin'
on out here Thursday afternoon?
377
00:16:17,653 --> 00:16:21,032
I'm a percussionist. I've been
workin' on some new material, man.
378
00:16:21,090 --> 00:16:23,127
I wouldn't have heard
a cannon go off.
379
00:16:23,826 --> 00:16:25,806
The cigarette ash we
found in the stairwell
380
00:16:25,861 --> 00:16:29,331
matches the tobacco residue
on the outer garbage bag.
381
00:16:29,398 --> 00:16:32,572
The Telford kid dragged the body
down the stairs and onto the street.
382
00:16:32,634 --> 00:16:34,307
Plus, the kid won't
give us an alibi.
383
00:16:34,369 --> 00:16:36,144
Or his father won't
give him a chance.
384
00:16:36,205 --> 00:16:37,513
What do we have for motive?
385
00:16:37,573 --> 00:16:39,985
The Telford kid's clique at school was
giving Chris Skinner a hard time.
386
00:16:40,042 --> 00:16:42,682
He started pumping iron so maybe
they'd stop hassling him.
387
00:16:42,745 --> 00:16:45,988
I'll talk to Carmichael. It sounds
like enough for a search warrant.
388
00:16:46,448 --> 00:16:48,621
BRISCOE: Where's your son's bedroom?
Jon's doing his homework.
389
00:16:49,885 --> 00:16:51,330
Police!
390
00:16:52,354 --> 00:16:54,095
Unlock the door, Jon.
391
00:16:54,923 --> 00:16:55,924
Bust it.
392
00:17:00,796 --> 00:17:01,900
Please, don't hurt him.
393
00:17:01,964 --> 00:17:03,238
Don't say a word, Jon.
394
00:17:04,733 --> 00:17:05,734
Homework, huh?
395
00:17:05,834 --> 00:17:08,110
"Biker Sluts Rock Vegas."
396
00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:09,881
Must be the new math.
397
00:17:10,005 --> 00:17:11,746
No place like home.
398
00:17:11,874 --> 00:17:13,080
He's a teenage boy.
399
00:17:13,442 --> 00:17:16,616
Oh, yeah? What's this?
400
00:17:17,613 --> 00:17:18,887
A zit remover?
401
00:17:25,487 --> 00:17:27,057
Murder in the second degree.
402
00:17:27,122 --> 00:17:29,534
How does the defendant plead?
Not guilty.
403
00:17:29,591 --> 00:17:31,730
People request $500,000 bail.
404
00:17:31,827 --> 00:17:33,135
GRANICK: They're dreaming,
Your Honor.
405
00:17:33,195 --> 00:17:34,970
CARMICHAEL: We have a weapon
that matches the fatal wound.
406
00:17:35,030 --> 00:17:37,909
No blood was found on this weapon
or in the defendant's apartment.
407
00:17:37,966 --> 00:17:39,411
CARMICHAEL: There's
evidence the victim's body
408
00:17:39,468 --> 00:17:41,072
was dragged through
the defendant's stairwell.
409
00:17:41,136 --> 00:17:43,582
GRANICK: Tobacco residue that could
have come from a million places.
410
00:17:43,639 --> 00:17:45,141
All they've got
is coincidences.
411
00:17:45,207 --> 00:17:47,983
You get enough coincidences,
they start to add up.
412
00:17:48,544 --> 00:17:51,047
Yes, they do.
To $20,000.
413
00:17:55,984 --> 00:17:57,691
Can't fault Judge
Fraser on bail.
414
00:17:58,620 --> 00:18:01,328
Can you put Telford and Chris Skinner
together on the day of the murder?
415
00:18:01,390 --> 00:18:02,926
Nobody saw them together.
416
00:18:03,192 --> 00:18:05,433
And how'd he manage to
clean up all that blood?
417
00:18:05,494 --> 00:18:07,599
He got an A in Home Ec.
418
00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:09,766
Or maybe he had help.
419
00:18:10,866 --> 00:18:12,743
I never saw Chris
or Jon that day.
420
00:18:12,868 --> 00:18:14,905
You stickin' with that?
It's the truth.
421
00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:15,971
Then you're under arrest.
422
00:18:16,038 --> 00:18:17,711
You said you were just
gonna talk to him.
423
00:18:17,773 --> 00:18:18,877
And he's not talking.
424
00:18:18,941 --> 00:18:20,579
So that makes him an
accomplice to murder.
425
00:18:20,642 --> 00:18:22,713
So you and Jon are going
upstate together.
426
00:18:22,911 --> 00:18:24,015
For a couple of decades.
427
00:18:24,079 --> 00:18:26,491
COVEN: Oh, please. My
son didn't do anything.
428
00:18:26,548 --> 00:18:28,255
Except set the whole thing up.
429
00:18:28,317 --> 00:18:30,729
Jon killed Chris because he
was bullying you, right?
430
00:18:30,786 --> 00:18:33,858
That's your case?
A second-hand motive?
431
00:18:34,022 --> 00:18:35,262
RYAN: It wasn't
even like that.
432
00:18:35,357 --> 00:18:38,065
That's the only theory we have
so we're runnin' with it.
433
00:18:38,127 --> 00:18:40,664
I never even told Jon about
Chris pushin' me around.
434
00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:42,531
I didn't want him
to think I was a wimp.
435
00:18:43,665 --> 00:18:45,804
So what did you tell Jon?
436
00:18:46,368 --> 00:18:50,009
He talks to you, you forget
about this accomplice nonsense?
437
00:18:51,273 --> 00:18:52,650
We'll see.
438
00:18:54,676 --> 00:18:56,178
(WHISPERS INAUDIBLY)
439
00:18:56,245 --> 00:18:58,225
I saw him on the
street that day.
440
00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,385
All I said was Chris was in the
neighborhood sellin' candy.
441
00:19:00,816 --> 00:19:01,886
Why?
442
00:19:02,751 --> 00:19:04,230
I knew Jon liked
messin' with him.
443
00:19:04,453 --> 00:19:06,228
VAN BUREN: Messin
with him how?
444
00:19:06,288 --> 00:19:08,598
RYAN: I don't know. Just
givin' him a hard time.
445
00:19:08,657 --> 00:19:10,796
What did Jon say when you
told him about Chris.
446
00:19:11,627 --> 00:19:12,765
Nothin' about killin' him.
447
00:19:12,961 --> 00:19:13,962
Then what?
448
00:19:15,597 --> 00:19:19,238
He said, "I hope that faggot
comes to my building."
449
00:19:22,404 --> 00:19:24,111
Not exactly a death threat.
450
00:19:24,172 --> 00:19:25,981
He was lying in wait
for Chris Skinner.
451
00:19:26,041 --> 00:19:27,520
Because he has a sweet tooth.
452
00:19:27,576 --> 00:19:29,578
He enjoyed hassling the kid.
453
00:19:29,645 --> 00:19:31,716
Why not try out
his toys on him?
454
00:19:31,780 --> 00:19:33,623
His parents know that
he had these weapons?
455
00:19:33,682 --> 00:19:35,355
They were hanging on his wall.
456
00:19:35,417 --> 00:19:37,090
He ever threaten anyone else?
457
00:19:37,152 --> 00:19:39,063
So far, none of the
kids are talking.
458
00:19:39,121 --> 00:19:40,794
And the people who aren't kids?
459
00:19:45,327 --> 00:19:48,331
Teaching creative writing
is like being a therapist.
460
00:19:48,397 --> 00:19:50,809
Some of the stuff they
write would freak you out.
461
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,471
What kind of stuff
did Jon Telford write?
462
00:19:53,969 --> 00:19:55,471
Very disturbing.
463
00:19:56,004 --> 00:19:57,915
I saved one of his stories.
464
00:20:00,075 --> 00:20:02,954
"I sent my enemy's gibs
flying through the air."
465
00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:04,919
Gibs?
466
00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:06,357
Body parts.
467
00:20:06,615 --> 00:20:09,528
"I spammed him with my
pill, threw my grenade."
468
00:20:09,585 --> 00:20:11,360
"I fragged another fresh beer,"
469
00:20:11,853 --> 00:20:13,491
"made another
easy kill."
470
00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:16,226
Anthony Burgess would be proud.
471
00:20:16,291 --> 00:20:18,794
I wish Burgess was
the inspiration.
472
00:20:18,860 --> 00:20:20,840
It's from a computer
game called Terror.
473
00:20:20,963 --> 00:20:24,376
Jon told me he plays it on the
Internet five, six hours a night.
474
00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:26,545
You mind if I borrow that?
475
00:20:26,602 --> 00:20:30,015
I called Jon's parents about it,
but his father hung up on me.
476
00:20:32,074 --> 00:20:34,020
I didn't know what
else to do. (SIGHS)
477
00:20:34,610 --> 00:20:38,456
You know, I still can't believe
that Jon actually killed that boy.
478
00:20:39,247 --> 00:20:43,161
"Then I laid a gash in the
neck of Superfly Jones."
479
00:20:43,852 --> 00:20:45,297
Character from the game.
480
00:20:46,488 --> 00:20:48,024
We seized his computer
this morning,
481
00:20:48,090 --> 00:20:50,468
and I found these video
games on his hard drive.
482
00:20:50,626 --> 00:20:52,469
The violence looks
so over-the-top.
483
00:20:52,527 --> 00:20:55,599
That's what sells. Terror
2's the best on the market.
484
00:20:55,664 --> 00:20:58,406
The Marines use games like
this to train their newbies.
485
00:20:58,467 --> 00:20:59,673
Must be a male thing.
486
00:20:59,735 --> 00:21:01,772
My nephew has the old version.
487
00:21:01,837 --> 00:21:03,145
It gets to you.
488
00:21:03,605 --> 00:21:04,879
So you like this junk?
489
00:21:05,207 --> 00:21:07,312
Lighten up, Abbie. He got
me to try it one night.
490
00:21:07,376 --> 00:21:09,913
Three o'clock in the morning
I was still hypnotized.
491
00:21:11,713 --> 00:21:13,886
Anything else interesting
in his computer?
492
00:21:13,949 --> 00:21:16,361
I downloaded a bunch
of e-mails for you.
493
00:21:20,188 --> 00:21:21,690
Anything useful?
494
00:21:21,757 --> 00:21:25,864
Let's see. Telford e-mailed
somebody named DoomMaster.
495
00:21:27,062 --> 00:21:29,440
"Did you notice Skinner's
faggot haircut?"
496
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,402
Here's one about
some kid named Leo.
497
00:21:34,636 --> 00:21:37,879
Telford was trying to figure out
away to put urine in his locker.
498
00:21:42,878 --> 00:21:44,949
CLAYTON: I'm just glad he
didn't kill Leo.
499
00:21:45,714 --> 00:21:47,557
Did you have problems with Jon?
500
00:21:47,616 --> 00:21:48,993
Not really.
501
00:21:49,084 --> 00:21:52,258
Oh, come on, Leo.
It's no big deal.
502
00:21:53,588 --> 00:21:55,499
He'll barely talk
to me about it.
503
00:21:56,892 --> 00:21:59,668
Maybe you'd feel better if
you got it off your chest.
504
00:22:01,863 --> 00:22:03,638
Well, I'll tell
you what I know.
505
00:22:03,699 --> 00:22:07,374
Last year in study hall, Jon put
a dead rat in Leo's backpack.
506
00:22:07,903 --> 00:22:10,850
This year, he scratched the
word 'faggot' on his locker.
507
00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:12,818
Did you complain to the school?
508
00:22:13,075 --> 00:22:14,383
Leo didn't want me to.
509
00:22:14,943 --> 00:22:16,786
He was afraid
it'd make it worse.
510
00:22:16,845 --> 00:22:19,052
One of his friends
told me about the locker.
511
00:22:19,481 --> 00:22:21,392
I decided to go
see Telford's father.
512
00:22:21,783 --> 00:22:22,955
And how'd he react?
513
00:22:23,285 --> 00:22:27,062
He said I had no proof, and if I
called the school he was gonna sue me.
514
00:22:28,290 --> 00:22:29,496
You sure it was Jon?
515
00:22:31,326 --> 00:22:33,863
CLAYTON: Leo says Jon's the only
one who calls him "faggot."
516
00:22:34,863 --> 00:22:36,809
Look, it's no big deal.
517
00:22:36,865 --> 00:22:37,935
And it did not end there.
518
00:22:37,999 --> 00:22:40,138
Three weeks later, he locked
him in a bathroom stall.
519
00:22:40,202 --> 00:22:42,341
Come on, Dad. I called
Telford's father.
520
00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:44,509
He said Leo should learn
to tough it out.
521
00:22:45,407 --> 00:22:47,045
Sounds like you were having
a pretty rough time.
522
00:22:48,477 --> 00:22:51,185
Let's face it, I'm short,
523
00:22:51,613 --> 00:22:52,887
I'm nerdy looking.
524
00:22:53,582 --> 00:22:55,459
Bullies like Jon are
going to pick on me.
525
00:22:55,517 --> 00:22:56,928
Did he ever threaten you?
526
00:22:59,821 --> 00:23:01,596
If he did,
I need you to tell me.
527
00:23:03,291 --> 00:23:04,929
It's really nothing.
528
00:23:06,161 --> 00:23:07,504
Look, Leo,
529
00:23:08,463 --> 00:23:11,501
maybe it's okay to keep what
happened to you a secret,
530
00:23:11,566 --> 00:23:13,375
but Chris Skinner was murdered.
531
00:23:19,975 --> 00:23:23,889
Jon once took out a knife and tried
to pull me into his building.
532
00:23:23,945 --> 00:23:25,447
What happened?
533
00:23:25,881 --> 00:23:27,792
He said he had a room
in his basement
534
00:23:27,883 --> 00:23:30,090
where he was gonna use
me for sword practice.
535
00:23:30,919 --> 00:23:32,398
Then I ran away.
536
00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:34,365
Why didn't you tell me?
537
00:23:35,490 --> 00:23:37,367
What were you gonna do, Dad?
538
00:23:37,426 --> 00:23:38,803
Call his father again?
539
00:23:43,265 --> 00:23:45,108
Which one is your storage
room, Mr. Telford?
540
00:23:45,167 --> 00:23:47,647
Why should I help you? You're
tryin' to lock up my son.
541
00:23:47,702 --> 00:23:49,545
You son is a predator.
542
00:23:49,604 --> 00:23:51,641
Why? Because he
plays video games?
543
00:23:51,706 --> 00:23:52,980
BRISCOE: This is it.
544
00:23:53,308 --> 00:23:54,378
Give us the key.
545
00:23:54,443 --> 00:23:56,150
I don't have to.
ED: You're right.
546
00:24:08,423 --> 00:24:09,697
What the hell is this?
547
00:24:09,758 --> 00:24:11,635
I brought it home from
the store where I work.
548
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,797
Couldn't you get
any live volunteers?
549
00:24:14,362 --> 00:24:15,363
You knew about this?
550
00:24:15,463 --> 00:24:17,443
What's the big deal?
Jon was practicing.
551
00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:20,373
Looks like he was gettin'
pretty good at it.
552
00:24:24,773 --> 00:24:28,016
The People's motion should be
denied in its entirety, Judge.
553
00:24:28,076 --> 00:24:30,420
What evidence are you seeking
to introduce, Mr. McCoy?
554
00:24:30,512 --> 00:24:32,219
Jon Telford's practice dummy.
555
00:24:32,848 --> 00:24:34,384
Evidence of his
Internet fantasies.
556
00:24:34,449 --> 00:24:35,928
Prior instances
of his bullying.
557
00:24:36,051 --> 00:24:38,258
It's prejudicial, Judge. It's
an attack on his character.
558
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,699
He sliced up a mannequin in the exact
manner Chris Skinner was murdered.
559
00:24:41,756 --> 00:24:43,326
It goes to modus operandi.
560
00:24:43,391 --> 00:24:46,235
Modus operandi implies a
prior crime was committed.
561
00:24:46,394 --> 00:24:48,305
There's no law against
defacing a mannequin.
562
00:24:48,363 --> 00:24:50,206
There are laws against possessing
these kinds of weapons.
563
00:24:50,265 --> 00:24:52,336
Yes, and you're free
to introduce the fact
564
00:24:52,434 --> 00:24:55,847
my client broke those laws if he
takes the stand, which he's not.
565
00:24:55,904 --> 00:24:58,077
So Mr. Granick can portray
his client as a choirboy?
566
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,346
If he opens the door, Mr. McCoy
it all becomes relevant.
567
00:25:01,877 --> 00:25:03,151
Now, until then,
568
00:25:03,278 --> 00:25:04,723
I'll permit you
to introduce this...
569
00:25:04,779 --> 00:25:06,315
What do you call it? Kama.
570
00:25:06,915 --> 00:25:11,796
This kama. You can argue it's a unique
weapon that inflicted a unique wound.
571
00:25:11,853 --> 00:25:14,197
Now, that's legitimate
circumstantial evidence.
572
00:25:14,356 --> 00:25:15,733
The other stuff is out.
573
00:25:20,061 --> 00:25:23,008
Van Ness excluded all
our bad acts evidence.
574
00:25:23,064 --> 00:25:24,805
He may as well have
dismissed the case.
575
00:25:24,866 --> 00:25:26,743
We have Ryan
Velardi's testimony.
576
00:25:26,801 --> 00:25:29,304
Not unless you can talk
some sense into his mother.
577
00:25:31,506 --> 00:25:34,282
Ryan didn't see his
friend Jon like he said.
578
00:25:34,376 --> 00:25:36,947
When he spoke to Ms. Carmichael,
he was confused.
579
00:25:37,445 --> 00:25:39,254
He didn't seem confused to me.
580
00:25:39,414 --> 00:25:40,893
You threatened him
with a murder charge.
581
00:25:40,949 --> 00:25:43,122
He was just sayin' what
you wanted to hear.
582
00:25:43,184 --> 00:25:45,255
Did somebody get
to him, Mrs. Velardi?
583
00:25:46,021 --> 00:25:48,524
If there's been witness
tampering, we can make it stop.
584
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:49,830
It's not that.
585
00:25:49,891 --> 00:25:51,802
So what's going on,
Mrs. Velardi?
586
00:25:52,827 --> 00:25:53,828
He's scared.
587
00:25:54,162 --> 00:25:55,163
Scared of what?
588
00:25:57,032 --> 00:25:59,342
If you don't help us, I'll
prosecute you for tampering.
589
00:25:59,501 --> 00:26:01,913
Oh, first you threaten him,
now you're threatenin' me?
590
00:26:02,003 --> 00:26:03,482
He's a witness
in a murder case.
591
00:26:03,538 --> 00:26:05,711
I need his testimony
to convict the killer
592
00:26:05,774 --> 00:26:08,118
I don't care. I'm not
puttin' him in danger.
593
00:26:08,176 --> 00:26:09,917
We can protect him.
594
00:26:10,011 --> 00:26:11,752
You'll have to find
somebody else.
595
00:26:11,947 --> 00:26:15,861
Mrs. Velardi, he's the only
one who heard Jon Telford
596
00:26:15,917 --> 00:26:17,487
threaten to harm the victim.
597
00:26:18,853 --> 00:26:20,298
Please, Mr. McCoy.
598
00:26:20,889 --> 00:26:22,562
Mrs. Velardi,
I'll subpoena him
599
00:26:22,624 --> 00:26:24,069
and put him in
front of the jury.
600
00:26:24,125 --> 00:26:25,934
And he'll say he
made a mistake.
601
00:26:26,628 --> 00:26:28,972
His lawyer says he doesn't
have to talk to you.
602
00:26:29,564 --> 00:26:31,339
We have nothing else to say.
603
00:26:37,339 --> 00:26:40,343
CARMICHAEL: Ryan Velardi
was the lynch-pin of our case.
604
00:26:40,475 --> 00:26:42,978
Can you put the victim
at Telford's building?
605
00:26:43,378 --> 00:26:46,825
The cops have been through it three times.
Nobody saw him.
606
00:26:47,215 --> 00:26:48,387
ADAM: There was a blanket.
607
00:26:48,450 --> 00:26:51,795
Freshly dry cleaned. No hairs or
fibers except for the victim's.
608
00:26:51,853 --> 00:26:55,096
This teenager commits
the perfect crime.
609
00:26:55,156 --> 00:26:56,794
I know. It's hard
to believe.
610
00:26:58,393 --> 00:27:02,239
CSU luminoled every conceivable
spot in the Telford's building.
611
00:27:02,931 --> 00:27:04,342
They didn't find
a drop of blood.
612
00:27:04,399 --> 00:27:08,541
We have the splatter games, the violent
behavior, the illegal weapons.
613
00:27:09,204 --> 00:27:10,444
But there's no
way to get it in.
614
00:27:10,505 --> 00:27:11,848
ADAM: Where'd he
get the weapons?
615
00:27:11,906 --> 00:27:14,580
Mail order. Paid for with
his father's credit card.
616
00:27:15,677 --> 00:27:18,681
(LAUGHS) Kid gets off, father
buys his son a bazooka.
617
00:27:21,082 --> 00:27:23,323
(SIGHS) Charge the father.
618
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:27,095
With providing the instrumentality?
With murder.
619
00:27:28,323 --> 00:27:29,358
On what basis?
620
00:27:29,824 --> 00:27:31,326
Depraved indifference.
621
00:27:32,093 --> 00:27:34,767
Hold the father responsible for
the criminal acts of the son?
622
00:27:35,230 --> 00:27:36,766
You don't think
he's responsible?
623
00:27:36,831 --> 00:27:38,310
Morally, maybe.
624
00:27:38,366 --> 00:27:39,674
It's good enough for me.
625
00:27:39,734 --> 00:27:42,044
It's about time we knocked
some sense into these parents.
626
00:27:43,605 --> 00:27:45,642
You're wielding a
pretty big stick.
627
00:27:46,641 --> 00:27:49,247
They don't do the job
puts it on us.
628
00:27:49,577 --> 00:27:50,578
Does it?
629
00:27:51,045 --> 00:27:52,422
Nobody's ever tried it.
630
00:27:54,416 --> 00:27:56,225
That ever stop you two before?
631
00:28:03,658 --> 00:28:04,830
What do you think?
632
00:28:07,195 --> 00:28:08,674
It makes me nervous.
633
00:28:09,964 --> 00:28:13,605
I don't know. Telford encourages
Jon's aggressive behavior,
634
00:28:13,668 --> 00:28:16,148
he arms him to the teeth.
Jury might buy it.
635
00:28:16,204 --> 00:28:17,615
That's what makes me nervous.
636
00:28:17,672 --> 00:28:21,415
We try them together. All Jon's
prior bad acts become probative.
637
00:28:21,476 --> 00:28:24,013
We don't get the father,
at least we get the kid.
638
00:28:27,715 --> 00:28:29,092
Bombs away.
639
00:28:30,919 --> 00:28:32,262
You're arresting me for what?
640
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,526
For the murder
of Chris Skinner.
641
00:28:33,588 --> 00:28:34,828
Why are you doing this?
642
00:28:34,889 --> 00:28:35,959
Turn around,
Mr. Telford?
643
00:28:36,024 --> 00:28:37,298
Not until my lawyer gets here.
644
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,997
You sure you want to do
this in front of your son?
645
00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:40,164
Hey, get away from me.
646
00:28:40,228 --> 00:28:41,798
Get your hands off me! Come on.
647
00:28:41,863 --> 00:28:43,706
Jimmy, go to your room now!
648
00:28:43,765 --> 00:28:44,766
I don't believe this!
649
00:28:44,833 --> 00:28:47,370
No, I didn't expect you would.
Give him Miranda.
650
00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:48,709
You have the right
to remain silent,
651
00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:50,181
which you should take us up on.
652
00:28:50,238 --> 00:28:53,219
Anything you say can and will be used
against you in a court of law...
653
00:28:53,741 --> 00:28:55,414
Judge Fraser in arraignments
654
00:28:55,977 --> 00:28:58,082
didn't think our
case was worth bail.
655
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,920
His problem.
656
00:28:59,981 --> 00:29:02,518
Our problem is how to make
a case against Telford.
657
00:29:02,684 --> 00:29:05,130
Make sure the jury knows
he dropped the ball.
658
00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:07,723
And we get a conviction
for bad parenting.
659
00:29:08,189 --> 00:29:10,169
He gave his son a sword,
660
00:29:10,525 --> 00:29:12,630
sent him out to
practice neck chops.
661
00:29:13,027 --> 00:29:15,633
Ah, bad parenting
in the first degree.
662
00:29:15,697 --> 00:29:17,973
His indifference
created the risk.
663
00:29:18,133 --> 00:29:20,807
Only a matter of time before
that kid attacked somebody.
664
00:29:23,271 --> 00:29:26,718
Okay, suppose we pull it off.
665
00:29:28,343 --> 00:29:29,481
Who's next, Adam?
666
00:29:32,547 --> 00:29:36,120
What did Potter Stewart
say about pornography?
667
00:29:36,184 --> 00:29:38,528
"I can't define what it is,
but I know it when I see it."
668
00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,026
Right.
669
00:29:40,889 --> 00:29:42,732
Telford could have
stopped his son.
670
00:29:44,058 --> 00:29:46,436
The way I read the law,
it makes him a murderer.
671
00:29:47,395 --> 00:29:49,033
Maybe you should try the case.
672
00:29:49,097 --> 00:29:50,235
(LAUGHS)
673
00:29:51,166 --> 00:29:53,203
I have to do
all the work around here?
674
00:29:54,536 --> 00:29:56,015
Do you think he's innocent?
675
00:29:56,071 --> 00:29:57,175
I don't.
676
00:29:57,238 --> 00:29:59,479
Well, I'm sure you'll do fine.
677
00:30:09,050 --> 00:30:11,052
JACK: The People will prove
that Jon Telford buried
678
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:14,566
a martial arts weapon
called the kama
679
00:30:14,622 --> 00:30:16,533
into the neck of Chris Skinner.
680
00:30:16,958 --> 00:30:19,268
The evidence will show that this
crime would not have happened
681
00:30:19,327 --> 00:30:23,673
had it not been for the total
indifference of Jon Telford's father.
682
00:30:24,332 --> 00:30:26,334
Had Robert Telford
opened his eyes
683
00:30:26,401 --> 00:30:29,848
to what was going on with
his son in his own home,
684
00:30:29,904 --> 00:30:31,815
Chris Skinner would
be with us today.
685
00:30:34,142 --> 00:30:36,315
I'll be frank with you,
ladies and gentlemen.
686
00:30:36,444 --> 00:30:38,788
We're entering
uncharted waters here.
687
00:30:40,348 --> 00:30:42,828
Once you bring a child
into this world,
688
00:30:42,884 --> 00:30:44,921
there are obligations attached.
689
00:30:45,487 --> 00:30:48,661
Parents have a commitment to
love and care for their child
690
00:30:48,723 --> 00:30:49,963
to nurture his growth,
691
00:30:50,024 --> 00:30:54,769
and they also have a
commitment to us, to society,
692
00:30:54,829 --> 00:30:58,072
to make sure that their
child obeys the law.
693
00:30:58,666 --> 00:31:02,443
You're going to hear evidence that Robert
Telford dishonored both commitments.
694
00:31:04,639 --> 00:31:08,212
He nurtured his son's brutality
695
00:31:08,576 --> 00:31:10,522
and anti-social behavior.
696
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,193
Warned that his son was
aggressive, a bully,
697
00:31:15,550 --> 00:31:18,394
a boy obsessed with images
of cruelty and violence,
698
00:31:18,453 --> 00:31:20,023
he shrugged it off.
699
00:31:20,888 --> 00:31:24,893
He armed his son with
instruments of death,
700
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,640
and then he let him
loose on Chris Skinner.
701
00:31:31,733 --> 00:31:34,805
I don't have to prove
to you that Mr. Telford
702
00:31:34,869 --> 00:31:37,748
was a direct cause
of Chris's death.
703
00:31:37,805 --> 00:31:39,978
If he could have
foreseen that his son
704
00:31:40,041 --> 00:31:42,715
would use his weapons
to harm another person,
705
00:31:42,911 --> 00:31:46,984
and if he set that chain of events
in motion through his inaction,
706
00:31:47,448 --> 00:31:51,794
the law says he committed
depraved indifference murder.
707
00:31:52,754 --> 00:31:54,563
And in that case,
708
00:31:55,223 --> 00:31:59,035
the sins of the son should
be visited on the father.
709
00:32:07,802 --> 00:32:10,942
Let's talk about what's
really going on here.
710
00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:14,180
The People's case
against Jon Telford
711
00:32:14,709 --> 00:32:17,383
is a handful of
circumstantial evidence.
712
00:32:18,212 --> 00:32:23,059
Mr. McCoy wants to hold this pathetic bit
of evidence together by one proposition.
713
00:32:24,052 --> 00:32:28,091
He's going to try to prove to
you that Jon is a bad boy.
714
00:32:28,957 --> 00:32:33,030
He's asking you to convict
Jon not on the evidence,
715
00:32:33,294 --> 00:32:35,069
but on his character.
716
00:32:35,129 --> 00:32:39,771
And he wants you to believe that
Jon was so mean, so out of control
717
00:32:40,501 --> 00:32:43,072
that his father should
be held legally responsible.
718
00:32:43,905 --> 00:32:47,216
The prosecution of
Robert Telford is a ploy
719
00:32:47,275 --> 00:32:50,381
to admit bad character
evidence against his son.
720
00:32:51,045 --> 00:32:53,252
Mr. Telford never
heard of Chris Skinner.
721
00:32:53,615 --> 00:32:55,151
He was miles away
when this happened.
722
00:32:55,216 --> 00:32:57,594
He didn't have a thing
to do with this murder.
723
00:32:59,187 --> 00:33:01,189
Follow the ball,
ladies and gentlemen.
724
00:33:01,623 --> 00:33:04,399
They can't prove a case
against Jon directly,
725
00:33:04,525 --> 00:33:06,334
so they'll do it by innuendo.
726
00:33:06,427 --> 00:33:09,636
And for lack of an explanation
for this terrible crime,
727
00:33:10,965 --> 00:33:12,410
they'll blame the parent.
728
00:33:13,701 --> 00:33:16,113
If you let them
do this to Jon Telford,
729
00:33:17,305 --> 00:33:18,841
you'll be next.
730
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,748
Thank you.
731
00:33:25,613 --> 00:33:28,924
The tobacco residue we discovered
in the Telford's stairwell
732
00:33:28,983 --> 00:33:31,463
was identical to the
residue on the garbage bag
733
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:33,260
where we found
the victim's body.
734
00:33:33,554 --> 00:33:36,592
And when you made that discovery,
Detective, what action did you take?
735
00:33:36,658 --> 00:33:38,103
We obtained a search warrant,
736
00:33:38,226 --> 00:33:41,833
and we recovered a kama
in Jon Telford's room.
737
00:33:43,664 --> 00:33:44,938
People's three.
738
00:33:46,367 --> 00:33:49,473
Was there any kind of forensic
test conducted on this weapon?
739
00:33:50,004 --> 00:33:51,005
Yes.
740
00:33:51,105 --> 00:33:54,143
It was consistent with the fatal
wound in the victim's neck.
741
00:33:55,543 --> 00:33:57,352
CARMICHAEL:
No further questions.
742
00:33:59,113 --> 00:34:01,059
Was any of the victim's blood
743
00:34:01,115 --> 00:34:04,392
found in the Telford's apartment
or stairwell, Detective?
744
00:34:04,452 --> 00:34:05,556
BRISCOE: No.
745
00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:07,426
How about on the kama?
746
00:34:07,989 --> 00:34:09,059
No.
747
00:34:09,123 --> 00:34:10,625
You have children,
don't you, Detective?
748
00:34:10,892 --> 00:34:12,872
Objection. JUDGE: Where are
you going, Mr. Granick?
749
00:34:13,361 --> 00:34:16,274
The prosecution has raised the
issue of parental responsibility.
750
00:34:16,397 --> 00:34:18,468
I'd like a little leeway
to address their argument.
751
00:34:18,666 --> 00:34:20,236
Fine, Judge. But
with this Detective?
752
00:34:20,301 --> 00:34:22,212
I'm going to give it
to him Ms. Carmichael.
753
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:24,681
You're the ones
pushing the envelope.
754
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,078
Answer the question, Detective.
755
00:34:28,709 --> 00:34:31,019
I had two daughters.
One of them was murdered.
756
00:34:31,746 --> 00:34:35,216
Because she turned state's
evidence in a drug case?
757
00:34:36,384 --> 00:34:38,261
She was going to testify
against a dealer.
758
00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:40,226
So she was selling
drugs herself?
759
00:34:40,488 --> 00:34:41,694
Objection.
760
00:34:41,889 --> 00:34:42,993
Overruled.
761
00:34:46,561 --> 00:34:48,097
Yes, she was selling drugs.
762
00:34:48,730 --> 00:34:51,768
And as her father,
under Mr. McCoy's theory,
763
00:34:52,033 --> 00:34:55,014
shouldn't you be held criminally
responsible for her drug dealing?
764
00:35:00,708 --> 00:35:01,948
Criminally responsible?
765
00:35:03,311 --> 00:35:04,312
No.
766
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:08,458
But I didn't give her the pills
and teach her how to sell them.
767
00:35:11,319 --> 00:35:12,627
No further questions.
768
00:35:20,528 --> 00:35:22,166
CARMICHAEL: Beside
the locker incident,
769
00:35:22,363 --> 00:35:23,706
what other things
did Jon do to you?
770
00:35:23,798 --> 00:35:25,402
LEO: Locked me
in the bathroom.
771
00:35:25,566 --> 00:35:26,943
What else, Leo?
772
00:35:27,001 --> 00:35:30,210
He put a knife against my neck and
tried to get me in his basement.
773
00:35:32,006 --> 00:35:34,953
He called me names.
Like what?
774
00:35:36,210 --> 00:35:37,587
Do I have to say?
775
00:35:38,446 --> 00:35:39,481
It's okay.
776
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:43,254
Faggot.
777
00:35:44,018 --> 00:35:45,395
Homo boy.
778
00:35:45,453 --> 00:35:47,228
CARMICHAEL: Did you
ever ask him to stop?
779
00:35:47,355 --> 00:35:50,893
Yeah. He just
laughed at me.
780
00:35:51,392 --> 00:35:53,895
I told him my father was
going to call his dad.
781
00:35:53,961 --> 00:35:56,168
He said, "Go ahead.
Big deal."
782
00:35:57,532 --> 00:35:58,806
Thank you, Leo.
783
00:36:03,337 --> 00:36:05,817
Does your father let you play
with video games at home?
784
00:36:05,873 --> 00:36:07,511
Yes.
Like what, Leo?
785
00:36:08,009 --> 00:36:11,252
Well, uh, I have Death Match
and Cyber Mafia.
786
00:36:11,546 --> 00:36:13,617
GRANICK: Did he ever buy
you a toy gun or a knife?
787
00:36:14,115 --> 00:36:15,526
A Swiss Army Knife.
788
00:36:16,050 --> 00:36:18,963
Hmm, did you ever
do anything bad?
789
00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:23,224
I don't believe it.
Not one thing?
790
00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:27,104
(LAUGHS) Well, I broke my
sister's glass animal collection.
791
00:36:27,962 --> 00:36:30,135
(LAUGHS) All right, you know
the story of George Washington
792
00:36:30,198 --> 00:36:32,144
and the cherry tree, right?
LEO: Yes.
793
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,474
When he did something wrong,
794
00:36:33,601 --> 00:36:35,478
he took responsibility
for it, right?
795
00:36:36,204 --> 00:36:37,410
That's what the story's about.
796
00:36:37,672 --> 00:36:39,208
And when you broke
your sister's things,
797
00:36:39,507 --> 00:36:41,282
you took responsibility, right?
798
00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:42,376
Right.
799
00:36:42,476 --> 00:36:44,319
You didn't say it was your
father's fault, did you?
800
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:46,080
No.
801
00:36:48,583 --> 00:36:51,120
It's a truth so simple,
even a child can grasp it.
802
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,594
Thank you, Leo.
803
00:37:04,332 --> 00:37:06,573
I'm a delivery dispatcher
for Bloomingdales.
804
00:37:07,768 --> 00:37:11,443
My wife Sandra manages the produce
department in a supermarket.
805
00:37:11,505 --> 00:37:14,213
And what kind of hours
do you and your wife work?
806
00:37:14,275 --> 00:37:15,879
I work a lot of overtime.
807
00:37:15,943 --> 00:37:18,822
Sandra works a regular shift
but sometimes it's nights.
808
00:37:18,879 --> 00:37:21,519
Did you receive any complaints
about Jon from school?
809
00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:24,352
Just a call from that
teacher that time.
810
00:37:24,652 --> 00:37:27,258
Oh. Well, she testified
that you hung up on her.
811
00:37:27,989 --> 00:37:30,230
Look, maybe I was
a little thick.
812
00:37:30,892 --> 00:37:33,668
You know, she was talking about
Internet this, Internet that.
813
00:37:33,828 --> 00:37:36,138
(LAUGHS) I don't
know much about it.
814
00:37:36,197 --> 00:37:40,737
(LAUGHS) Well, do you know about
the video games your son plays?
815
00:37:40,801 --> 00:37:41,802
I know they're violent.
816
00:37:43,070 --> 00:37:46,244
When we were a kid, we used to
play combat and blow up the Nazis.
817
00:37:46,774 --> 00:37:49,380
You know, the way I see it,
kids are the same.
818
00:37:49,443 --> 00:37:50,683
Just the
technology's different.
819
00:37:51,979 --> 00:37:54,516
GRANICK: How did Jon get
involved in martial arts?
820
00:37:54,749 --> 00:37:56,751
I took him to karate
lessons when he was little.
821
00:37:57,418 --> 00:37:59,420
And is that why he
had these weapons?
822
00:37:59,654 --> 00:38:01,998
Uh, no. He quit the lessons.
823
00:38:02,156 --> 00:38:03,464
But he was gettin'
picked on at school
824
00:38:03,524 --> 00:38:04,832
by some of the
football players,
825
00:38:04,892 --> 00:38:07,702
so I just thought this might
help him with his confidence.
826
00:38:08,562 --> 00:38:10,166
GRANICK: Nothing further.
827
00:38:16,804 --> 00:38:19,307
How did your son get
this, Mr. Telford?
828
00:38:19,373 --> 00:38:22,217
Jon showed me how to order
the karate gear on a computer.
829
00:38:23,010 --> 00:38:26,287
I gave him my credit card
number to buy the stuff.
830
00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:28,724
This karate gear,
as you call it
831
00:38:29,283 --> 00:38:31,923
you can't buy it in
New York state, can you?
832
00:38:32,019 --> 00:38:35,023
ROBERT: A brother of mine lives in Virginia.
We had it shipped down there.
833
00:38:35,523 --> 00:38:38,697
So you enabled your son
to buy illegal weapons.
834
00:38:38,893 --> 00:38:40,270
Boys like that stuff.
835
00:38:40,761 --> 00:38:42,798
Didn't you ever have a
slingshot when you were a kid?
836
00:38:42,863 --> 00:38:44,399
Made out of a tree branch.
837
00:38:45,099 --> 00:38:48,478
It wasn't contraband from
an 'adults only' website.
838
00:38:48,536 --> 00:38:50,243
It taught him how
to defend himself.
839
00:38:50,304 --> 00:38:53,251
Without any kind of
training or supervision?
840
00:38:53,507 --> 00:38:54,986
He was practicing on his own.
841
00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:57,886
Only he was practicing to be a
bully, wasn't he, Mr. Telford?
842
00:38:58,946 --> 00:39:01,051
When he was 13, some punk held
843
00:39:01,115 --> 00:39:05,029
a knife to his throat and took his money.
He came home crying.
844
00:39:05,086 --> 00:39:07,692
So this is your
idea of parenting?
845
00:39:07,755 --> 00:39:12,226
To send him out with this,
and this, and this?
846
00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:15,641
Listen, it's a different world
than when you and I grew up.
847
00:39:15,763 --> 00:39:19,074
A kid throws a punch now
another kid pulls out a gun.
848
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:20,779
JACK: How about teaching
him not to fight?
849
00:39:20,835 --> 00:39:23,076
ROBERT: What, so they
could rob his money again?
850
00:39:23,337 --> 00:39:25,943
I wanted him to
stand up for himself.
851
00:39:26,273 --> 00:39:27,274
To be a man.
852
00:39:28,342 --> 00:39:30,117
They laugh at you
when you say that now.
853
00:39:30,177 --> 00:39:31,986
But yeah.
What's wrong with that?
854
00:39:32,279 --> 00:39:36,421
Was he being a man when he
tortured Leo Clayton in school?
855
00:39:36,484 --> 00:39:37,690
ROBERT: Jon wouldn't do that.
856
00:39:37,752 --> 00:39:40,198
When he held a knife
against his throat?
857
00:39:40,788 --> 00:39:41,994
I don't know the story on that.
858
00:39:42,056 --> 00:39:43,330
JACK: You knew he
was carrying a knife.
859
00:39:43,424 --> 00:39:45,461
ROBERT: I knew he had one,
but he knew not to use it.
860
00:39:45,726 --> 00:39:47,501
Well, he did use it,
Mr. Telford.
861
00:39:47,561 --> 00:39:48,562
Isn't that what you taught him?
862
00:39:48,996 --> 00:39:50,839
No.
To relieve his feelings
863
00:39:50,898 --> 00:39:52,468
of helplessness
with aggression?
864
00:39:52,533 --> 00:39:53,841
That's just more PC crap.
865
00:39:53,968 --> 00:39:57,006
Or to retreat into his fantasy
world on his computer.
866
00:39:57,071 --> 00:39:59,051
He's not the only kid
playing these things.
867
00:39:59,106 --> 00:40:02,019
You stood there and
watched while your son
868
00:40:02,076 --> 00:40:04,352
turned into a killer
didn't you, Mr. Telford?
869
00:40:05,012 --> 00:40:06,650
That's ridiculous.
870
00:40:07,047 --> 00:40:09,459
I wanted my kid
to protect himself.
871
00:40:09,684 --> 00:40:13,564
You were proud when he dished
it out at school, weren't you?
872
00:40:13,687 --> 00:40:15,394
I wasn't proud.
873
00:40:15,523 --> 00:40:17,730
You know what those
football players called him?
874
00:40:18,092 --> 00:40:19,264
Fluff boy and...
875
00:40:19,326 --> 00:40:21,328
Is that what this is about, Mr. Telford?
You were ashamed?
876
00:40:21,395 --> 00:40:23,932
Where do you get off tryin' to
tell me how to raise my kid, huh?
877
00:40:23,998 --> 00:40:25,238
You think it's easy?
878
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,977
I love my boys!
I did the best that I could!
879
00:40:29,036 --> 00:40:30,242
You did not!
880
00:40:30,871 --> 00:40:32,043
JUDGE: Sit down,
Mrs. Telford.
881
00:40:32,106 --> 00:40:34,313
It's not true!
He ruined him!
882
00:40:34,375 --> 00:40:36,218
JUDGE: Mrs. Telford.
(JUDGE POUNDS GAVEL)
883
00:40:36,277 --> 00:40:37,654
I want a mistrial, Judge.
884
00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:40,859
Let's step outside.
885
00:40:46,687 --> 00:40:48,894
I'll instruct the jury
to ignore the outburst.
886
00:40:48,956 --> 00:40:50,958
(LAUGHS) Oh, gimme
a break, Judge.
887
00:40:51,025 --> 00:40:53,301
How can my clients get a
fair trial after that?
888
00:40:53,361 --> 00:40:54,738
The defendant brought
it on himself.
889
00:40:54,795 --> 00:40:56,399
The People oppose a mistrial.
890
00:40:56,964 --> 00:40:58,910
And you're not getting
one, Mr. Granick.
891
00:40:58,966 --> 00:41:00,343
I'm not wasting
two weeks' work.
892
00:41:00,401 --> 00:41:02,813
Judge... That means
you have a problem.
893
00:41:04,505 --> 00:41:05,950
We'll recess till tomorrow.
894
00:41:13,981 --> 00:41:16,928
JACK: Jon admits to murder,
I'll consider man one.
895
00:41:16,984 --> 00:41:18,691
And my husband gets off?
896
00:41:18,819 --> 00:41:20,890
Man two.
Reckless homicide.
897
00:41:21,122 --> 00:41:22,362
I didn't kill the kid.
898
00:41:22,423 --> 00:41:25,563
You got Jon. You really need a
pound of flesh from Mr. Telford?
899
00:41:25,626 --> 00:41:27,003
I'm not taking any deal.
900
00:41:27,361 --> 00:41:28,396
JACK: We'll see
you tomorrow.
901
00:41:28,562 --> 00:41:30,064
SANDRA: What if
I give you evidence?
902
00:41:30,231 --> 00:41:31,676
Will you make a deal with Jon?
903
00:41:34,201 --> 00:41:35,305
What are you doing?
904
00:41:35,369 --> 00:41:37,144
What I should have
done all along.
905
00:41:37,505 --> 00:41:39,348
What kind of evidence,
Mrs. Telford?
906
00:41:41,242 --> 00:41:42,585
About the blanket.
907
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:43,984
Shut up, Sandra.
908
00:41:44,044 --> 00:41:45,216
Please, Mrs. Telford.
909
00:41:45,279 --> 00:41:47,316
And I'll testify
against my husband.
910
00:41:48,182 --> 00:41:49,286
About what?
911
00:41:49,350 --> 00:41:51,660
About what you've done
to us all these years.
912
00:41:53,087 --> 00:41:54,964
(CRYING) The weapons,
the fighting.
913
00:41:56,857 --> 00:41:58,962
I've watched it long enough.
914
00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:02,768
You want me to go to jail?
915
00:42:02,830 --> 00:42:05,037
I see what you did to Jon.
916
00:42:06,467 --> 00:42:08,572
You're not going
to do it to Jimmy.
917
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,277
Tell Mr. McCoy what
happened, Jon.
918
00:42:16,810 --> 00:42:17,948
No, Mom.
919
00:42:18,112 --> 00:42:19,819
That's right, Son.
Don't say a word.
920
00:42:21,482 --> 00:42:25,294
Tell him or I'll tell
him about our blanket.
921
00:42:29,557 --> 00:42:31,195
Damn you, Sandra.
922
00:42:34,028 --> 00:42:35,507
It's over, Jon.
923
00:42:39,466 --> 00:42:40,638
Please.
924
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:43,676
Say what you did.
925
00:42:56,650 --> 00:42:58,527
I made Chris come
into our apartment.
926
00:43:01,522 --> 00:43:04,230
I was just going to take
his candy money, I swear.
927
00:43:07,294 --> 00:43:11,401
But he punched me in the
stomach hard, and...
928
00:43:13,834 --> 00:43:16,041
The kama was
on the wall, and...
929
00:43:18,672 --> 00:43:21,152
I grabbed it, and I swung it at him.
(CRYING)
930
00:43:30,684 --> 00:43:32,220
Man one,
10-to-20.
931
00:43:36,457 --> 00:43:38,266
How can you do this to me?
932
00:43:48,669 --> 00:43:50,114
I didn't kill that kid.
933
00:43:52,339 --> 00:43:53,818
Man two,
two-to-six.
934
00:43:54,942 --> 00:43:57,320
Or I put your wife
on the stand.
935
00:43:59,346 --> 00:44:01,622
Would you rather risk
a murder conviction?
936
00:44:01,949 --> 00:44:03,019
Take it, Dad.
937
00:44:04,752 --> 00:44:07,289
Oh, now you're tellin'
me what to do?
938
00:44:07,655 --> 00:44:09,601
I'll do what I said, Robert.
939
00:44:11,425 --> 00:44:13,098
It's a fair offer.
940
00:44:14,895 --> 00:44:16,340
(SIGHS)
941
00:44:18,132 --> 00:44:20,271
Now or never,
Mr. Telford.
942
00:44:29,877 --> 00:44:31,185
Fine.
943
00:44:41,922 --> 00:44:45,335
Sandra Telford had her husband served
with divorce papers at Rikers.
944
00:44:45,826 --> 00:44:47,965
Sacrificed her marriage
to save her sons.
945
00:44:48,562 --> 00:44:51,634
She spoke up sooner, she might
have saved Chris Skinner.
946
00:44:52,366 --> 00:44:53,902
Want to put her in jail, too?
947
00:44:54,401 --> 00:44:55,641
Don't tempt me.
948
00:44:55,691 --> 00:45:00,241
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