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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,077 --> 00:00:02,852 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:02,912 --> 00:00:06,826 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:06,883 --> 00:00:08,692 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,752 --> 00:00:11,494 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,588 --> 00:00:13,363 These are their stories. 6 00:00:13,923 --> 00:00:16,802 My kid wants 60 bucks for one card. 7 00:00:16,860 --> 00:00:20,034 Hey, we had baseball, they got Pok?mon. 8 00:00:20,096 --> 00:00:22,303 Hey, Thurman Munson never cost me 60 bucks. 9 00:00:22,365 --> 00:00:23,469 Oh, man. 10 00:00:23,533 --> 00:00:24,534 What's the matter? 11 00:00:24,601 --> 00:00:25,705 Thing weighs a ton. 12 00:00:25,769 --> 00:00:28,306 Well, check it out. Could be a computer or somethin'. 13 00:00:28,838 --> 00:00:30,681 Whatever it is, I want half. 14 00:00:35,245 --> 00:00:36,781 I don't think so. 15 00:00:36,846 --> 00:00:39,019 (CHATTER ON POLICE RADIO) 16 00:00:39,082 --> 00:00:42,586 Male, 16. Wrapped up in a blanket, then double bagged. 17 00:00:42,652 --> 00:00:44,131 (SIREN WAILING) 18 00:00:44,187 --> 00:00:46,258 Slashed once on the neck. ED: Damn. 19 00:00:46,322 --> 00:00:47,801 BRISCOE: So who is he? 20 00:00:47,857 --> 00:00:50,633 School ID from Jameson High. Name's Chris Skinner. 21 00:00:50,894 --> 00:00:53,807 Mother called the precinct last night, reported him missing. 22 00:00:54,330 --> 00:00:55,775 Here's his address. 23 00:00:57,534 --> 00:00:59,480 Columbus. About 10 blocks north. 24 00:00:59,536 --> 00:01:01,709 Anybody see the bag get dumped? We're on it. 25 00:01:01,771 --> 00:01:03,614 Could've been dragged from any one of these buildings. 26 00:01:03,673 --> 00:01:05,653 Or somebody drove up with a delivery. 27 00:01:06,643 --> 00:01:07,849 Is that Chris? 28 00:01:08,578 --> 00:01:09,852 Who called her? 29 00:01:09,913 --> 00:01:11,085 Not us. 30 00:01:11,614 --> 00:01:14,288 What a coincidence What, she just showed up? 31 00:02:05,335 --> 00:02:07,178 Chris never came home for dinner. 32 00:02:08,004 --> 00:02:10,746 I called his friends, looked around the neighborhood. 33 00:02:11,774 --> 00:02:13,412 Then I called the police. 34 00:02:14,010 --> 00:02:16,854 They didn't find him. And now he's dead. 35 00:02:18,948 --> 00:02:21,986 How did you happen to come to the murder scene Ms. Skinner? 36 00:02:22,051 --> 00:02:23,997 A friend heard it on the news. 37 00:02:24,287 --> 00:02:26,392 A dead boy on 56th Street. 38 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:28,492 Are you married, Ms. Skinner? 39 00:02:29,592 --> 00:02:30,935 Boyfriend? 40 00:02:31,628 --> 00:02:33,699 No. Why? 41 00:02:33,897 --> 00:02:36,002 These are just standard questions, Ms. Skinner. 42 00:02:36,266 --> 00:02:38,371 I would never let anyone hurt Chris. 43 00:02:39,836 --> 00:02:41,713 (STAMMERS) I need a cigarette. 44 00:02:42,472 --> 00:02:44,247 An officer will walk you out. 45 00:02:52,682 --> 00:02:54,559 When did patrol get there last night? 46 00:02:55,151 --> 00:02:58,894 9:20. About 10 minutes after she called 911. 47 00:02:58,955 --> 00:03:01,162 They canvassed the neighborhood, searched his building. 48 00:03:01,224 --> 00:03:02,294 And the apartment? 49 00:03:02,458 --> 00:03:04,495 Yeah, and the car. Nothing suspicious. 50 00:03:04,861 --> 00:03:06,272 Just a missing kid. 51 00:03:07,397 --> 00:03:08,876 Fax from the kid's school. 52 00:03:08,932 --> 00:03:10,912 Two years ago, he came in all beat up. 53 00:03:10,967 --> 00:03:12,344 They called Children's Services. 54 00:03:12,402 --> 00:03:15,008 Chris and his mom said he fell down some stairs. 55 00:03:15,071 --> 00:03:18,678 May be this time he fell down on a knife. 56 00:03:21,811 --> 00:03:23,757 I make time of death about 5:00 p.m. 57 00:03:23,813 --> 00:03:25,224 What's this on his arm? 58 00:03:25,581 --> 00:03:28,255 It's from yesterday. I'm guessin' a grab mark. 59 00:03:28,318 --> 00:03:30,628 Or from getting banged around in the bag? 60 00:03:30,687 --> 00:03:32,963 People don't bruise so easy when they're dead. 61 00:03:33,022 --> 00:03:36,902 So you can't tell if he was dragged, carried or beamed down. 62 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,371 Any signs of abuse? 63 00:03:38,428 --> 00:03:41,500 Either that or he played serious contact sports. 64 00:03:41,564 --> 00:03:43,669 Found some edema on his right shoulder and side. 65 00:03:43,733 --> 00:03:45,269 He got popped a couple of weeks ago. 66 00:03:45,335 --> 00:03:46,746 ED: Not like this time. 67 00:03:47,170 --> 00:03:48,547 Interesting wound. 68 00:03:49,172 --> 00:03:51,743 At least a six-inch blade based on the length of the cut. 69 00:03:51,808 --> 00:03:54,049 And I'm guessing a blade with a wide curve. 70 00:03:54,110 --> 00:03:55,680 What, like a scythe? 71 00:03:55,745 --> 00:03:58,351 Well, whatever it was, it hacked into his artery and he bled out. 72 00:03:58,815 --> 00:04:00,192 All over that blanket. 73 00:04:01,317 --> 00:04:02,455 Must've been washed recently. 74 00:04:02,518 --> 00:04:03,997 No hairs, no fingernails, 75 00:04:04,053 --> 00:04:06,329 no fibers that didn't come from the blanket. 76 00:04:06,422 --> 00:04:08,527 And the garbage bags are no good for prints. 77 00:04:08,591 --> 00:04:10,093 Good enough for dumpin' a body. 78 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:14,699 Extra large. Three-millimeter, heavy duty, high-density polyethylene. 79 00:04:14,764 --> 00:04:16,505 Not something you'd find in your kitchen. 80 00:04:16,599 --> 00:04:18,340 There were cigarette ash and tobacco particles 81 00:04:18,401 --> 00:04:20,074 on the outside of the outer bag, 82 00:04:20,136 --> 00:04:21,410 stuck to some dried blood. 83 00:04:21,471 --> 00:04:23,576 What brand? American, menthol. 84 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:26,279 Can't give you more until we get it back from the lab. 85 00:04:26,843 --> 00:04:29,153 Stuff could have been picked up on the sidewalk. 86 00:04:29,212 --> 00:04:31,715 Or a smoke after to calm your nerves. 87 00:04:33,016 --> 00:04:34,620 Sorry to hear the boy got killed, 88 00:04:34,684 --> 00:04:36,288 but I have to be at a divorce hearing in an hour. 89 00:04:36,352 --> 00:04:38,263 I don't have time for this Make him wait. 90 00:04:38,321 --> 00:04:40,801 You hear any commotion in the Skinner's apartment yesterday? 91 00:04:40,857 --> 00:04:43,463 Thick walls, okay? Only good thing about this building. 92 00:04:43,559 --> 00:04:45,266 She have any boyfriends staying over? 93 00:04:45,328 --> 00:04:47,672 I'm not interested in the woman's sex life. 94 00:04:47,730 --> 00:04:50,040 Uh, did you ever hear her get mad at her son? 95 00:04:50,166 --> 00:04:52,077 You think I stand in the hall with my ear to the door? 96 00:04:52,135 --> 00:04:54,012 We love nosy people. We gotta ask. 97 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:55,708 Any idea what kind of cigarettes she smokes? 98 00:04:55,772 --> 00:04:57,581 I've seen her at the deli around the corner. 99 00:04:58,775 --> 00:04:59,810 ED: Long brown hair. She smokes. 100 00:04:59,876 --> 00:05:01,651 She might have come in with her son. 101 00:05:01,711 --> 00:05:04,624 I know them. They walk by here to church every Sunday. 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,920 She ever buy cigarettes here? 103 00:05:05,982 --> 00:05:08,019 Yeah. Uh, Deauville Lights. 104 00:05:08,084 --> 00:05:09,859 Not exactly American menthol. 105 00:05:10,219 --> 00:05:11,425 I saw 'em yesterday. 106 00:05:11,487 --> 00:05:13,296 When? About 4:15. 107 00:05:13,556 --> 00:05:16,833 He was out here with another boy, selling candy bars for school. 108 00:05:16,893 --> 00:05:19,373 I sell candy too, so I told 'em to go away. 109 00:05:19,429 --> 00:05:21,272 - You know the other boy? - No. 110 00:05:21,330 --> 00:05:22,775 What did he look like? 111 00:05:22,832 --> 00:05:25,676 Spanish kid. Uh, teenager. 112 00:05:25,735 --> 00:05:27,214 I'm sorry I yelled at them. 113 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:28,476 Thanks. 114 00:05:28,771 --> 00:05:30,614 Maybe the kid sold some bad candy. 115 00:05:33,876 --> 00:05:35,184 (BELL RINGING) 116 00:05:35,244 --> 00:05:37,190 MAN: I just heard. My God. 117 00:05:37,246 --> 00:05:40,125 Uh, Chris was sellin' chocolate bars for the school. 118 00:05:40,183 --> 00:05:42,356 The office pointed us in your direction. Why? 119 00:05:42,418 --> 00:05:44,557 We figure he got killed while he was hawkin' candy. 120 00:05:44,620 --> 00:05:46,531 Oh, I hope it wasn't that. 121 00:05:46,589 --> 00:05:48,967 Our Weightlifting Club just started a fundraising drive yesterday. 122 00:05:49,425 --> 00:05:50,870 The boys were out selling Neptune bars 123 00:05:50,927 --> 00:05:52,668 to, uh, raise money for new equipment. 124 00:05:52,728 --> 00:05:56,107 Somebody else from the club was with him yesterday. 125 00:05:56,199 --> 00:05:57,803 Could have been Terry Sanchez. 126 00:05:57,867 --> 00:05:59,540 When Chris joined the club a month ago 127 00:05:59,602 --> 00:06:00,979 Terry kind of took him under his wing. 128 00:06:01,037 --> 00:06:02,209 You know, help pushed him through his reps. 129 00:06:02,305 --> 00:06:03,841 Terry show up today? 130 00:06:03,906 --> 00:06:05,579 I think I saw him. 131 00:06:08,478 --> 00:06:10,719 We only sold like one candy bar in about half an hour. 132 00:06:10,847 --> 00:06:11,985 Then the Korean guy ran us off. 133 00:06:12,048 --> 00:06:13,254 Where'd you and Chris go? 134 00:06:13,316 --> 00:06:15,057 We split up. Figured, why stand on the street 135 00:06:15,118 --> 00:06:16,995 when I could sell a whole box to my grandmother? 136 00:06:17,053 --> 00:06:18,589 And that's where you were at five o'clock? 137 00:06:18,654 --> 00:06:20,224 Yeah. What about Chris? 138 00:06:20,289 --> 00:06:22,269 He was gonna sell door to door above 56th Street. 139 00:06:22,358 --> 00:06:23,462 Why 56th? 140 00:06:23,526 --> 00:06:25,164 Said there was a big building with no doorman. 141 00:06:25,361 --> 00:06:26,772 It'd be easy to get in. 142 00:06:26,829 --> 00:06:28,274 You and Chris were buddies, huh? 143 00:06:29,665 --> 00:06:31,440 Yeah, I guess you could say that. 144 00:06:31,834 --> 00:06:33,245 I shoulda went with him. 145 00:06:33,302 --> 00:06:34,645 Maybe not. 146 00:06:36,005 --> 00:06:38,042 BRISCOE: ls the doorman on a break? 147 00:06:38,107 --> 00:06:41,680 Yeah, since '96. Co-op board decided they're too expensive. 148 00:06:41,744 --> 00:06:42,950 I'm the super. 149 00:06:43,012 --> 00:06:44,685 I'm Detective Briscoe. This is Detective... 150 00:06:44,747 --> 00:06:45,987 Ooh-hoo! Two o'clock! 151 00:06:46,349 --> 00:06:48,260 Hey, follow the shiny badge. 152 00:06:49,619 --> 00:06:51,530 You see this kid yesterday afternoon? 153 00:06:51,587 --> 00:06:54,329 May have been going door to door with a box of candy? 154 00:06:54,824 --> 00:06:57,134 Uh, I wasn't here yesterday afternoon. 155 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,597 But I know that boy, all right. 156 00:06:59,662 --> 00:07:01,335 A couple of weeks ago, right across the street, 157 00:07:01,397 --> 00:07:03,775 he was messin' with one of the kids from the building. 158 00:07:03,833 --> 00:07:06,336 I ran after him. Had him pushed up against the wall. 159 00:07:06,402 --> 00:07:07,710 Who was the kid from the building? 160 00:07:07,937 --> 00:07:09,883 Uh, skinny kid. Always wears black. 161 00:07:10,606 --> 00:07:12,608 Ryan Velardi, 12C. 162 00:07:13,176 --> 00:07:14,621 RYAN: I got home right after school. 163 00:07:14,677 --> 00:07:16,088 But no one came around sellin' candy. 164 00:07:16,179 --> 00:07:17,419 Where were your parents? 165 00:07:17,547 --> 00:07:19,458 At work. Like they are now. 166 00:07:19,715 --> 00:07:21,695 What about you? Is this about the dead kid? 167 00:07:21,751 --> 00:07:22,786 What makes you think that? 168 00:07:22,852 --> 00:07:24,559 He was found right down the street. 169 00:07:24,620 --> 00:07:25,826 Yeah, you guys know him? 170 00:07:26,589 --> 00:07:27,659 Nah. 171 00:07:27,723 --> 00:07:29,828 What school you go to? Jameson High. 172 00:07:29,992 --> 00:07:31,403 Same school as Chris Skinner. 173 00:07:32,295 --> 00:07:34,707 I knew who he was. We just never hung out together. 174 00:07:35,131 --> 00:07:37,737 How about a couple of weeks ago, when he had you shoved up against the wall? 175 00:07:38,267 --> 00:07:39,302 Where'd you hear that? 176 00:07:39,368 --> 00:07:41,473 Look, maybe you should come back when my parents get home. 177 00:07:41,537 --> 00:07:42,880 ED: What's he got to hide? 178 00:07:42,939 --> 00:07:44,418 They'll be home from work around 10:00. 179 00:07:44,473 --> 00:07:45,975 Why don't we call them? 180 00:07:46,042 --> 00:07:47,988 You can't reach them now. We'll be back later. 181 00:07:51,314 --> 00:07:53,794 Charming pair. Parents work till 10:00? 182 00:07:53,849 --> 00:07:55,192 Maybe they're cops. 183 00:07:55,952 --> 00:07:58,694 Hey, Lennie. What the hell? 184 00:07:59,889 --> 00:08:02,062 They won't have bags that big up here. 185 00:08:06,329 --> 00:08:09,003 Couldn't fit a large pizza box into one of these. 186 00:08:10,633 --> 00:08:11,976 Yeah? 187 00:08:12,668 --> 00:08:14,079 How about this? 188 00:08:14,804 --> 00:08:17,546 Neptune Bars. "Not for retail." 189 00:08:21,978 --> 00:08:23,048 I want my brother here. 190 00:08:23,112 --> 00:08:25,353 Ryan, relax. He's right across the hall. 191 00:08:25,414 --> 00:08:26,722 Then why can't he come in? 192 00:08:26,782 --> 00:08:27,886 Don't worry about it. 193 00:08:28,551 --> 00:08:29,552 Just me and you. 194 00:08:30,286 --> 00:08:31,321 I didn't do anything. 195 00:08:31,420 --> 00:08:33,093 Mmm, you lied about Chris Skinner. 196 00:08:33,189 --> 00:08:34,691 I'm not lying. 197 00:08:34,824 --> 00:08:36,394 Come on, man. 198 00:08:37,460 --> 00:08:39,963 The two of you had beef. He chased you. 199 00:08:40,029 --> 00:08:41,133 I barely know the kid. 200 00:08:41,197 --> 00:08:43,939 You saw him after school on Thursday. I didn't. 201 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,708 So it was just a coincidence that he was sellin' candy 202 00:08:46,769 --> 00:08:49,716 on your floor at the same time he got killed? 203 00:08:49,772 --> 00:08:50,773 Yeah, I guess. 204 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,114 Don't play me! 205 00:08:52,174 --> 00:08:53,983 You really think you're gonna get up and walk outta here? 206 00:08:54,043 --> 00:08:56,319 You and your brother both are down with this. 207 00:08:56,379 --> 00:08:58,154 You got him to help you drag the bag downstairs, didn't you? 208 00:08:58,214 --> 00:08:59,215 No. 209 00:08:59,282 --> 00:09:01,262 Come on, man. We're getting fingerprints off your door. 210 00:09:01,317 --> 00:09:03,354 You're lyin' to me, you're goin' to Rikers. 211 00:09:03,419 --> 00:09:04,454 I'm only 16. 212 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,296 Mmm-hmm. And they got a place for little boys like you out there. 213 00:09:07,356 --> 00:09:10,701 You think you're scared now, wait'll they get a hold of your little ass. 214 00:09:11,594 --> 00:09:14,040 I'm not saying anything till I talk to my brother. 215 00:09:14,196 --> 00:09:15,800 I wasn't even home on Thursday. 216 00:09:15,865 --> 00:09:17,742 BRISCOE: What time did you get in? Like 6:30. 217 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,440 Your brother mention anything about Chris Skinner comin' around? 218 00:09:20,503 --> 00:09:22,210 He told you, he hardly knows him. 219 00:09:22,271 --> 00:09:24,444 He was havin' problems with this kid, wasn't he? 220 00:09:24,507 --> 00:09:26,885 What kind of problems? Come on, Ricky. 221 00:09:26,942 --> 00:09:30,412 We got a witness who saw Chris goin after your brother. 222 00:09:30,813 --> 00:09:32,952 I don't really get all involved in my brother's social life. 223 00:09:33,015 --> 00:09:34,517 Maybe there's somethin goin' on with him. 224 00:09:34,583 --> 00:09:36,187 Like what? You gotta ask him. 225 00:09:37,586 --> 00:09:39,623 What kind of knives do you and Ryan have? 226 00:09:39,722 --> 00:09:41,133 We don't have any knives. 227 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:42,362 (KNOCK ON DOOR) 228 00:09:42,958 --> 00:09:45,802 Mr. Velardi's lawyer. Uh, interview's over. 229 00:09:45,861 --> 00:09:48,137 Unless you have some evidence I don't know about. 230 00:09:48,965 --> 00:09:50,171 COVEN: Let's go. 231 00:09:53,669 --> 00:09:54,875 We searched their apartment. 232 00:09:54,937 --> 00:09:57,213 No blood, no bags and no prints. 233 00:09:57,340 --> 00:09:58,819 We know the victim was up there. 234 00:09:58,874 --> 00:10:00,785 His prints were on the candy box. 235 00:10:00,843 --> 00:10:02,345 Could be coincidence. 236 00:10:02,411 --> 00:10:05,358 Ryan had motive. The dead kid was hassling him. 237 00:10:05,815 --> 00:10:07,726 One witness, one incident. 238 00:10:09,719 --> 00:10:12,700 Are you saying my son was bullying this boy? 239 00:10:13,089 --> 00:10:14,466 High school can be a rough place. 240 00:10:14,523 --> 00:10:17,231 Sometimes you gotta act tough to keep the wolves at bay. 241 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,039 Chris wouldn't hurt anyone. I'm sure of that. 242 00:10:21,764 --> 00:10:24,108 BRISCOE: Our M.E. said he was all bruised up. 243 00:10:25,234 --> 00:10:26,440 He was? 244 00:10:26,769 --> 00:10:28,942 BRISCOE: Did he mention being in a fight? 245 00:10:29,672 --> 00:10:31,174 Ever get a call from the school? 246 00:10:31,374 --> 00:10:32,978 Detention? Anything like that? 247 00:10:33,042 --> 00:10:34,043 MARCIA: No. 248 00:10:34,810 --> 00:10:37,552 But Chris wasn't doing all that well when school started. 249 00:10:38,347 --> 00:10:40,520 I just thought he didn't like his teachers. 250 00:10:40,583 --> 00:10:42,563 When you say he wasn't doing well... 251 00:10:45,187 --> 00:10:46,996 He didn't really talk to me. 252 00:10:48,190 --> 00:10:51,296 But the last few weeks, he seemed a lot better. 253 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:53,403 Around the time he joined the Weightlifting Club. 254 00:10:54,130 --> 00:10:55,609 Chris was lifting weights? 255 00:10:57,299 --> 00:10:58,778 He'd never done that before? 256 00:10:59,135 --> 00:11:00,239 No. 257 00:11:00,302 --> 00:11:02,339 BRISCOE: Anything else unusual going on? 258 00:11:05,674 --> 00:11:10,714 I found a pamphlet on his desk about conflict resolution. 259 00:11:11,113 --> 00:11:15,061 I thought it was just something that they gave everybody at his school. 260 00:11:16,752 --> 00:11:19,028 (CRYING) I meant to ask him about it. 261 00:11:19,088 --> 00:11:21,159 I was just so busy lately. 262 00:11:25,027 --> 00:11:26,836 Are you going to be okay, ma'am? 263 00:11:27,663 --> 00:11:29,142 I don't know. 264 00:11:35,771 --> 00:11:38,752 So the student has a problem, he sits down with a group of peer counselors. 265 00:11:38,808 --> 00:11:40,253 They try and talk it out. 266 00:11:40,443 --> 00:11:42,514 And if that doesn't work, they grab their guns. 267 00:11:42,578 --> 00:11:46,492 (LAUGHS) I hate to disappoint you, Detective, but Jameson's a magnet school. 268 00:11:46,549 --> 00:11:49,928 We don't really have the violence prevalent in bigger city schools. 269 00:11:49,985 --> 00:11:52,488 If a kid requested intervention, would you know about it? 270 00:11:52,555 --> 00:11:53,761 I'm supposed to. 271 00:11:53,823 --> 00:11:54,961 Chris Skinner? 272 00:11:55,458 --> 00:11:58,439 Uh, no. Chris was in my math class, but he never came here. 273 00:11:58,494 --> 00:11:59,666 He had one of your handouts. 274 00:11:59,728 --> 00:12:01,537 Any sense of what was bothering him? 275 00:12:02,498 --> 00:12:05,945 There's a lot of tension between the various cliques, you know? 276 00:12:06,001 --> 00:12:09,380 The jocks diss the freaks. The hip-hop kids diss the nerds. 277 00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:11,245 Any fights? 278 00:12:11,307 --> 00:12:13,548 Uh, not that I'm aware of. 279 00:12:13,609 --> 00:12:15,919 The psychological torture can get pretty nasty. 280 00:12:15,978 --> 00:12:18,288 It can drive a weak kid to self-destruct. 281 00:12:18,380 --> 00:12:20,121 Or to destruct some other kid. 282 00:12:20,249 --> 00:12:23,093 Was Chris in one of the cliques? I'm not sure. 283 00:12:23,152 --> 00:12:25,223 What about a kid named Ryan Velardi? 284 00:12:26,355 --> 00:12:27,629 I don't recognize that name. 285 00:12:27,923 --> 00:12:29,834 Dark greasy hair, black clothes. 286 00:12:29,892 --> 00:12:32,896 Mascara, black nail polish? He'd be a Goth. 287 00:12:33,162 --> 00:12:34,402 Just black clothes. 288 00:12:34,630 --> 00:12:36,405 Oh, then he'd be with the freaks. 289 00:12:43,372 --> 00:12:44,851 I just lost my appetite. 290 00:12:44,907 --> 00:12:46,682 ED: We just have a few questions. 291 00:12:46,742 --> 00:12:48,517 This has gotta be about Chris Skinner. 292 00:12:48,577 --> 00:12:51,683 It's about Ryan Velardi. He hangs out with you guys, right? 293 00:12:52,047 --> 00:12:53,048 Sometimes. 294 00:12:53,115 --> 00:12:55,618 He's got a PlayStation and some ill video games. 295 00:12:55,684 --> 00:12:57,664 He ever have any problems with Skinner? 296 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,427 Aside from Chris being a geek? 297 00:12:59,488 --> 00:13:00,933 It sounds like you and Skinner didn't get along. 298 00:13:00,990 --> 00:13:02,731 We didn't have anything to do with him. 299 00:13:02,791 --> 00:13:04,771 He didn't have any classes with you? 300 00:13:04,827 --> 00:13:06,807 Ask Jon. He's in Special Ed. 301 00:13:06,862 --> 00:13:08,671 (LAUGHS SARCASTICALLY) Shut up. 302 00:13:08,731 --> 00:13:11,211 We didn't hate him or anything. He was just shallow. 303 00:13:11,267 --> 00:13:12,610 Practically a skater-oid. 304 00:13:12,668 --> 00:13:14,170 A what? BOY: A skater. 305 00:13:14,503 --> 00:13:16,483 You know, baggy pants, no brains. 306 00:13:16,705 --> 00:13:18,480 Ah, that would make him stand out around here. 307 00:13:18,541 --> 00:13:19,747 Thanks. 308 00:13:21,443 --> 00:13:22,945 I bummed a cigarette off Chris a few times, 309 00:13:23,012 --> 00:13:24,320 but he didn't really hang out with us. 310 00:13:24,380 --> 00:13:26,792 Did he ever say anything about Ryan Velardi? 311 00:13:26,916 --> 00:13:28,190 He was kind of quiet. 312 00:13:28,284 --> 00:13:30,355 Maybe Chris had a grudge against him. 313 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:32,226 Is that what the freaks told you? 314 00:13:32,288 --> 00:13:34,564 We think Chris was pickin' on this Velardi kid. 315 00:13:34,723 --> 00:13:36,259 GIRL: Doesn't sound like him. 316 00:13:36,458 --> 00:13:38,768 Chris was in my Modern Lit class. 317 00:13:38,827 --> 00:13:40,704 He was like, you know, sensitive. 318 00:13:41,297 --> 00:13:42,469 Sensitive? 319 00:13:42,531 --> 00:13:44,340 He was. When we did poetry, 320 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,846 he recited a Kurt Cobain song in class. 321 00:13:46,902 --> 00:13:48,609 When did he start pumpin' iron? 322 00:13:48,804 --> 00:13:50,681 Serious? Chris Skinner lifting? 323 00:13:51,573 --> 00:13:54,247 I guess you don't really know what anybody's really like inside. 324 00:13:54,877 --> 00:13:56,754 So there's nothing between him and the freaks? 325 00:13:56,845 --> 00:13:58,347 We would've heard something. 326 00:13:58,514 --> 00:13:59,720 Thanks for your help. 327 00:13:59,782 --> 00:14:03,594 Chris asks about counseling, he starts some weight lifting. 328 00:14:03,719 --> 00:14:06,393 I don't see the bully. I'm seein' the 98 pound weakling. 329 00:14:06,455 --> 00:14:08,833 I just wonder who kicked sand in his face. 330 00:14:10,259 --> 00:14:12,865 Chris started showin' up to work out like a month ago. 331 00:14:12,928 --> 00:14:15,169 BRISCOE: Why a sudden interest in body building? 332 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:18,643 Said he wanted to get cut. Then maybe the jerks in school would leave him alone. 333 00:14:18,701 --> 00:14:20,612 Which jerks are we talkin' about? 334 00:14:20,669 --> 00:14:22,740 Hey, man, in this place? Take your pick. 335 00:14:22,805 --> 00:14:24,216 Between you and me, what do you think? 336 00:14:28,777 --> 00:14:29,983 I don't know. 337 00:14:31,647 --> 00:14:33,251 Who you protecting? 338 00:14:33,349 --> 00:14:34,521 The kid who killed your buddy? 339 00:14:36,852 --> 00:14:39,196 I think Chris was having some problems with the freaks. 340 00:14:39,254 --> 00:14:40,597 Who in particular? 341 00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:42,264 There's like 10 or 12 of them. 342 00:14:42,925 --> 00:14:44,199 We need the names. 343 00:14:48,163 --> 00:14:50,541 You talked to my son at school already. 344 00:14:50,599 --> 00:14:52,909 BRISCOE: Look, we just need to ask a couple of follow-up questions. 345 00:14:52,968 --> 00:14:55,005 Uh-huh. You think Jon's involved? 346 00:14:55,070 --> 00:14:56,879 I'll take care of it, Sandra. 347 00:14:59,742 --> 00:15:01,949 The boy's body was found just down the block from here. 348 00:15:02,011 --> 00:15:04,252 It's probably a coincidence but we need to check it out. 349 00:15:04,313 --> 00:15:05,621 Well, what do you want to know? 350 00:15:05,681 --> 00:15:07,251 We'd rather talk to him. 351 00:15:07,316 --> 00:15:09,193 Right now, you'll have to talk to me. 352 00:15:09,685 --> 00:15:11,756 Where was your son Thursday afternoon? 353 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:15,231 He needs an alibi? That'd be a start. 354 00:15:15,524 --> 00:15:18,095 (STAMMERS) Well, I think I'd like to see a lawyer first. 355 00:15:18,627 --> 00:15:21,073 I gotta tell you, you're not helping your boy like this. 356 00:15:21,263 --> 00:15:22,799 Do you have a business card? 357 00:15:26,535 --> 00:15:28,606 Detective Green, um, 358 00:15:28,671 --> 00:15:31,311 I'll call you when Jon's ready to be interviewed, all right? 359 00:15:31,774 --> 00:15:33,151 Good night. 360 00:15:34,810 --> 00:15:36,118 Bingo. 361 00:15:36,178 --> 00:15:38,488 Maybe somebody up here bought a Neptune bar. 362 00:15:39,481 --> 00:15:41,825 I was home all day Thursday. Why? 363 00:15:41,884 --> 00:15:45,127 Anybody come to your door around five, six o'clock sellin' candy? 364 00:15:45,287 --> 00:15:46,960 No. You know the Telfords? 365 00:15:47,356 --> 00:15:49,529 Who, the family down the hall? Not really. 366 00:15:49,992 --> 00:15:52,131 Those Bronco Menthols? Yeah, man. You want one? 367 00:15:52,394 --> 00:15:53,873 Yeah, for later. 368 00:15:54,063 --> 00:15:55,736 You ever smoke out here in the hallway? 369 00:15:55,798 --> 00:15:57,539 My wife won't let me smoke in the apartment. 370 00:15:57,599 --> 00:15:58,942 Yeah? Where do you go? 371 00:16:00,035 --> 00:16:02,174 She makes me stand out here. 372 00:16:04,206 --> 00:16:06,208 BRISCOE: You always leave your butts on the floor? 373 00:16:06,341 --> 00:16:08,947 I know, I know. Super's been on me about it. 374 00:16:09,011 --> 00:16:11,150 Says he always has to mop up after me. 375 00:16:11,914 --> 00:16:14,292 I throw him an extra 20 around Christmas, you know. 376 00:16:14,349 --> 00:16:17,455 You hear anything unusual goin' on out here Thursday afternoon? 377 00:16:17,653 --> 00:16:21,032 I'm a percussionist. I've been workin' on some new material, man. 378 00:16:21,090 --> 00:16:23,127 I wouldn't have heard a cannon go off. 379 00:16:23,826 --> 00:16:25,806 The cigarette ash we found in the stairwell 380 00:16:25,861 --> 00:16:29,331 matches the tobacco residue on the outer garbage bag. 381 00:16:29,398 --> 00:16:32,572 The Telford kid dragged the body down the stairs and onto the street. 382 00:16:32,634 --> 00:16:34,307 Plus, the kid won't give us an alibi. 383 00:16:34,369 --> 00:16:36,144 Or his father won't give him a chance. 384 00:16:36,205 --> 00:16:37,513 What do we have for motive? 385 00:16:37,573 --> 00:16:39,985 The Telford kid's clique at school was giving Chris Skinner a hard time. 386 00:16:40,042 --> 00:16:42,682 He started pumping iron so maybe they'd stop hassling him. 387 00:16:42,745 --> 00:16:45,988 I'll talk to Carmichael. It sounds like enough for a search warrant. 388 00:16:46,448 --> 00:16:48,621 BRISCOE: Where's your son's bedroom? Jon's doing his homework. 389 00:16:49,885 --> 00:16:51,330 Police! 390 00:16:52,354 --> 00:16:54,095 Unlock the door, Jon. 391 00:16:54,923 --> 00:16:55,924 Bust it. 392 00:17:00,796 --> 00:17:01,900 Please, don't hurt him. 393 00:17:01,964 --> 00:17:03,238 Don't say a word, Jon. 394 00:17:04,733 --> 00:17:05,734 Homework, huh? 395 00:17:05,834 --> 00:17:08,110 "Biker Sluts Rock Vegas." 396 00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:09,881 Must be the new math. 397 00:17:10,005 --> 00:17:11,746 No place like home. 398 00:17:11,874 --> 00:17:13,080 He's a teenage boy. 399 00:17:13,442 --> 00:17:16,616 Oh, yeah? What's this? 400 00:17:17,613 --> 00:17:18,887 A zit remover? 401 00:17:25,487 --> 00:17:27,057 Murder in the second degree. 402 00:17:27,122 --> 00:17:29,534 How does the defendant plead? Not guilty. 403 00:17:29,591 --> 00:17:31,730 People request $500,000 bail. 404 00:17:31,827 --> 00:17:33,135 GRANICK: They're dreaming, Your Honor. 405 00:17:33,195 --> 00:17:34,970 CARMICHAEL: We have a weapon that matches the fatal wound. 406 00:17:35,030 --> 00:17:37,909 No blood was found on this weapon or in the defendant's apartment. 407 00:17:37,966 --> 00:17:39,411 CARMICHAEL: There's evidence the victim's body 408 00:17:39,468 --> 00:17:41,072 was dragged through the defendant's stairwell. 409 00:17:41,136 --> 00:17:43,582 GRANICK: Tobacco residue that could have come from a million places. 410 00:17:43,639 --> 00:17:45,141 All they've got is coincidences. 411 00:17:45,207 --> 00:17:47,983 You get enough coincidences, they start to add up. 412 00:17:48,544 --> 00:17:51,047 Yes, they do. To $20,000. 413 00:17:55,984 --> 00:17:57,691 Can't fault Judge Fraser on bail. 414 00:17:58,620 --> 00:18:01,328 Can you put Telford and Chris Skinner together on the day of the murder? 415 00:18:01,390 --> 00:18:02,926 Nobody saw them together. 416 00:18:03,192 --> 00:18:05,433 And how'd he manage to clean up all that blood? 417 00:18:05,494 --> 00:18:07,599 He got an A in Home Ec. 418 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:09,766 Or maybe he had help. 419 00:18:10,866 --> 00:18:12,743 I never saw Chris or Jon that day. 420 00:18:12,868 --> 00:18:14,905 You stickin' with that? It's the truth. 421 00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:15,971 Then you're under arrest. 422 00:18:16,038 --> 00:18:17,711 You said you were just gonna talk to him. 423 00:18:17,773 --> 00:18:18,877 And he's not talking. 424 00:18:18,941 --> 00:18:20,579 So that makes him an accomplice to murder. 425 00:18:20,642 --> 00:18:22,713 So you and Jon are going upstate together. 426 00:18:22,911 --> 00:18:24,015 For a couple of decades. 427 00:18:24,079 --> 00:18:26,491 COVEN: Oh, please. My son didn't do anything. 428 00:18:26,548 --> 00:18:28,255 Except set the whole thing up. 429 00:18:28,317 --> 00:18:30,729 Jon killed Chris because he was bullying you, right? 430 00:18:30,786 --> 00:18:33,858 That's your case? A second-hand motive? 431 00:18:34,022 --> 00:18:35,262 RYAN: It wasn't even like that. 432 00:18:35,357 --> 00:18:38,065 That's the only theory we have so we're runnin' with it. 433 00:18:38,127 --> 00:18:40,664 I never even told Jon about Chris pushin' me around. 434 00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:42,531 I didn't want him to think I was a wimp. 435 00:18:43,665 --> 00:18:45,804 So what did you tell Jon? 436 00:18:46,368 --> 00:18:50,009 He talks to you, you forget about this accomplice nonsense? 437 00:18:51,273 --> 00:18:52,650 We'll see. 438 00:18:54,676 --> 00:18:56,178 (WHISPERS INAUDIBLY) 439 00:18:56,245 --> 00:18:58,225 I saw him on the street that day. 440 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,385 All I said was Chris was in the neighborhood sellin' candy. 441 00:19:00,816 --> 00:19:01,886 Why? 442 00:19:02,751 --> 00:19:04,230 I knew Jon liked messin' with him. 443 00:19:04,453 --> 00:19:06,228 VAN BUREN: Messin with him how? 444 00:19:06,288 --> 00:19:08,598 RYAN: I don't know. Just givin' him a hard time. 445 00:19:08,657 --> 00:19:10,796 What did Jon say when you told him about Chris. 446 00:19:11,627 --> 00:19:12,765 Nothin' about killin' him. 447 00:19:12,961 --> 00:19:13,962 Then what? 448 00:19:15,597 --> 00:19:19,238 He said, "I hope that faggot comes to my building." 449 00:19:22,404 --> 00:19:24,111 Not exactly a death threat. 450 00:19:24,172 --> 00:19:25,981 He was lying in wait for Chris Skinner. 451 00:19:26,041 --> 00:19:27,520 Because he has a sweet tooth. 452 00:19:27,576 --> 00:19:29,578 He enjoyed hassling the kid. 453 00:19:29,645 --> 00:19:31,716 Why not try out his toys on him? 454 00:19:31,780 --> 00:19:33,623 His parents know that he had these weapons? 455 00:19:33,682 --> 00:19:35,355 They were hanging on his wall. 456 00:19:35,417 --> 00:19:37,090 He ever threaten anyone else? 457 00:19:37,152 --> 00:19:39,063 So far, none of the kids are talking. 458 00:19:39,121 --> 00:19:40,794 And the people who aren't kids? 459 00:19:45,327 --> 00:19:48,331 Teaching creative writing is like being a therapist. 460 00:19:48,397 --> 00:19:50,809 Some of the stuff they write would freak you out. 461 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,471 What kind of stuff did Jon Telford write? 462 00:19:53,969 --> 00:19:55,471 Very disturbing. 463 00:19:56,004 --> 00:19:57,915 I saved one of his stories. 464 00:20:00,075 --> 00:20:02,954 "I sent my enemy's gibs flying through the air." 465 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:04,919 Gibs? 466 00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:06,357 Body parts. 467 00:20:06,615 --> 00:20:09,528 "I spammed him with my pill, threw my grenade." 468 00:20:09,585 --> 00:20:11,360 "I fragged another fresh beer," 469 00:20:11,853 --> 00:20:13,491 "made another easy kill." 470 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:16,226 Anthony Burgess would be proud. 471 00:20:16,291 --> 00:20:18,794 I wish Burgess was the inspiration. 472 00:20:18,860 --> 00:20:20,840 It's from a computer game called Terror. 473 00:20:20,963 --> 00:20:24,376 Jon told me he plays it on the Internet five, six hours a night. 474 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:26,545 You mind if I borrow that? 475 00:20:26,602 --> 00:20:30,015 I called Jon's parents about it, but his father hung up on me. 476 00:20:32,074 --> 00:20:34,020 I didn't know what else to do. (SIGHS) 477 00:20:34,610 --> 00:20:38,456 You know, I still can't believe that Jon actually killed that boy. 478 00:20:39,247 --> 00:20:43,161 "Then I laid a gash in the neck of Superfly Jones." 479 00:20:43,852 --> 00:20:45,297 Character from the game. 480 00:20:46,488 --> 00:20:48,024 We seized his computer this morning, 481 00:20:48,090 --> 00:20:50,468 and I found these video games on his hard drive. 482 00:20:50,626 --> 00:20:52,469 The violence looks so over-the-top. 483 00:20:52,527 --> 00:20:55,599 That's what sells. Terror 2's the best on the market. 484 00:20:55,664 --> 00:20:58,406 The Marines use games like this to train their newbies. 485 00:20:58,467 --> 00:20:59,673 Must be a male thing. 486 00:20:59,735 --> 00:21:01,772 My nephew has the old version. 487 00:21:01,837 --> 00:21:03,145 It gets to you. 488 00:21:03,605 --> 00:21:04,879 So you like this junk? 489 00:21:05,207 --> 00:21:07,312 Lighten up, Abbie. He got me to try it one night. 490 00:21:07,376 --> 00:21:09,913 Three o'clock in the morning I was still hypnotized. 491 00:21:11,713 --> 00:21:13,886 Anything else interesting in his computer? 492 00:21:13,949 --> 00:21:16,361 I downloaded a bunch of e-mails for you. 493 00:21:20,188 --> 00:21:21,690 Anything useful? 494 00:21:21,757 --> 00:21:25,864 Let's see. Telford e-mailed somebody named DoomMaster. 495 00:21:27,062 --> 00:21:29,440 "Did you notice Skinner's faggot haircut?" 496 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,402 Here's one about some kid named Leo. 497 00:21:34,636 --> 00:21:37,879 Telford was trying to figure out away to put urine in his locker. 498 00:21:42,878 --> 00:21:44,949 CLAYTON: I'm just glad he didn't kill Leo. 499 00:21:45,714 --> 00:21:47,557 Did you have problems with Jon? 500 00:21:47,616 --> 00:21:48,993 Not really. 501 00:21:49,084 --> 00:21:52,258 Oh, come on, Leo. It's no big deal. 502 00:21:53,588 --> 00:21:55,499 He'll barely talk to me about it. 503 00:21:56,892 --> 00:21:59,668 Maybe you'd feel better if you got it off your chest. 504 00:22:01,863 --> 00:22:03,638 Well, I'll tell you what I know. 505 00:22:03,699 --> 00:22:07,374 Last year in study hall, Jon put a dead rat in Leo's backpack. 506 00:22:07,903 --> 00:22:10,850 This year, he scratched the word 'faggot' on his locker. 507 00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:12,818 Did you complain to the school? 508 00:22:13,075 --> 00:22:14,383 Leo didn't want me to. 509 00:22:14,943 --> 00:22:16,786 He was afraid it'd make it worse. 510 00:22:16,845 --> 00:22:19,052 One of his friends told me about the locker. 511 00:22:19,481 --> 00:22:21,392 I decided to go see Telford's father. 512 00:22:21,783 --> 00:22:22,955 And how'd he react? 513 00:22:23,285 --> 00:22:27,062 He said I had no proof, and if I called the school he was gonna sue me. 514 00:22:28,290 --> 00:22:29,496 You sure it was Jon? 515 00:22:31,326 --> 00:22:33,863 CLAYTON: Leo says Jon's the only one who calls him "faggot." 516 00:22:34,863 --> 00:22:36,809 Look, it's no big deal. 517 00:22:36,865 --> 00:22:37,935 And it did not end there. 518 00:22:37,999 --> 00:22:40,138 Three weeks later, he locked him in a bathroom stall. 519 00:22:40,202 --> 00:22:42,341 Come on, Dad. I called Telford's father. 520 00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:44,509 He said Leo should learn to tough it out. 521 00:22:45,407 --> 00:22:47,045 Sounds like you were having a pretty rough time. 522 00:22:48,477 --> 00:22:51,185 Let's face it, I'm short, 523 00:22:51,613 --> 00:22:52,887 I'm nerdy looking. 524 00:22:53,582 --> 00:22:55,459 Bullies like Jon are going to pick on me. 525 00:22:55,517 --> 00:22:56,928 Did he ever threaten you? 526 00:22:59,821 --> 00:23:01,596 If he did, I need you to tell me. 527 00:23:03,291 --> 00:23:04,929 It's really nothing. 528 00:23:06,161 --> 00:23:07,504 Look, Leo, 529 00:23:08,463 --> 00:23:11,501 maybe it's okay to keep what happened to you a secret, 530 00:23:11,566 --> 00:23:13,375 but Chris Skinner was murdered. 531 00:23:19,975 --> 00:23:23,889 Jon once took out a knife and tried to pull me into his building. 532 00:23:23,945 --> 00:23:25,447 What happened? 533 00:23:25,881 --> 00:23:27,792 He said he had a room in his basement 534 00:23:27,883 --> 00:23:30,090 where he was gonna use me for sword practice. 535 00:23:30,919 --> 00:23:32,398 Then I ran away. 536 00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:34,365 Why didn't you tell me? 537 00:23:35,490 --> 00:23:37,367 What were you gonna do, Dad? 538 00:23:37,426 --> 00:23:38,803 Call his father again? 539 00:23:43,265 --> 00:23:45,108 Which one is your storage room, Mr. Telford? 540 00:23:45,167 --> 00:23:47,647 Why should I help you? You're tryin' to lock up my son. 541 00:23:47,702 --> 00:23:49,545 You son is a predator. 542 00:23:49,604 --> 00:23:51,641 Why? Because he plays video games? 543 00:23:51,706 --> 00:23:52,980 BRISCOE: This is it. 544 00:23:53,308 --> 00:23:54,378 Give us the key. 545 00:23:54,443 --> 00:23:56,150 I don't have to. ED: You're right. 546 00:24:08,423 --> 00:24:09,697 What the hell is this? 547 00:24:09,758 --> 00:24:11,635 I brought it home from the store where I work. 548 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,797 Couldn't you get any live volunteers? 549 00:24:14,362 --> 00:24:15,363 You knew about this? 550 00:24:15,463 --> 00:24:17,443 What's the big deal? Jon was practicing. 551 00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:20,373 Looks like he was gettin' pretty good at it. 552 00:24:24,773 --> 00:24:28,016 The People's motion should be denied in its entirety, Judge. 553 00:24:28,076 --> 00:24:30,420 What evidence are you seeking to introduce, Mr. McCoy? 554 00:24:30,512 --> 00:24:32,219 Jon Telford's practice dummy. 555 00:24:32,848 --> 00:24:34,384 Evidence of his Internet fantasies. 556 00:24:34,449 --> 00:24:35,928 Prior instances of his bullying. 557 00:24:36,051 --> 00:24:38,258 It's prejudicial, Judge. It's an attack on his character. 558 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,699 He sliced up a mannequin in the exact manner Chris Skinner was murdered. 559 00:24:41,756 --> 00:24:43,326 It goes to modus operandi. 560 00:24:43,391 --> 00:24:46,235 Modus operandi implies a prior crime was committed. 561 00:24:46,394 --> 00:24:48,305 There's no law against defacing a mannequin. 562 00:24:48,363 --> 00:24:50,206 There are laws against possessing these kinds of weapons. 563 00:24:50,265 --> 00:24:52,336 Yes, and you're free to introduce the fact 564 00:24:52,434 --> 00:24:55,847 my client broke those laws if he takes the stand, which he's not. 565 00:24:55,904 --> 00:24:58,077 So Mr. Granick can portray his client as a choirboy? 566 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,346 If he opens the door, Mr. McCoy it all becomes relevant. 567 00:25:01,877 --> 00:25:03,151 Now, until then, 568 00:25:03,278 --> 00:25:04,723 I'll permit you to introduce this... 569 00:25:04,779 --> 00:25:06,315 What do you call it? Kama. 570 00:25:06,915 --> 00:25:11,796 This kama. You can argue it's a unique weapon that inflicted a unique wound. 571 00:25:11,853 --> 00:25:14,197 Now, that's legitimate circumstantial evidence. 572 00:25:14,356 --> 00:25:15,733 The other stuff is out. 573 00:25:20,061 --> 00:25:23,008 Van Ness excluded all our bad acts evidence. 574 00:25:23,064 --> 00:25:24,805 He may as well have dismissed the case. 575 00:25:24,866 --> 00:25:26,743 We have Ryan Velardi's testimony. 576 00:25:26,801 --> 00:25:29,304 Not unless you can talk some sense into his mother. 577 00:25:31,506 --> 00:25:34,282 Ryan didn't see his friend Jon like he said. 578 00:25:34,376 --> 00:25:36,947 When he spoke to Ms. Carmichael, he was confused. 579 00:25:37,445 --> 00:25:39,254 He didn't seem confused to me. 580 00:25:39,414 --> 00:25:40,893 You threatened him with a murder charge. 581 00:25:40,949 --> 00:25:43,122 He was just sayin' what you wanted to hear. 582 00:25:43,184 --> 00:25:45,255 Did somebody get to him, Mrs. Velardi? 583 00:25:46,021 --> 00:25:48,524 If there's been witness tampering, we can make it stop. 584 00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:49,830 It's not that. 585 00:25:49,891 --> 00:25:51,802 So what's going on, Mrs. Velardi? 586 00:25:52,827 --> 00:25:53,828 He's scared. 587 00:25:54,162 --> 00:25:55,163 Scared of what? 588 00:25:57,032 --> 00:25:59,342 If you don't help us, I'll prosecute you for tampering. 589 00:25:59,501 --> 00:26:01,913 Oh, first you threaten him, now you're threatenin' me? 590 00:26:02,003 --> 00:26:03,482 He's a witness in a murder case. 591 00:26:03,538 --> 00:26:05,711 I need his testimony to convict the killer 592 00:26:05,774 --> 00:26:08,118 I don't care. I'm not puttin' him in danger. 593 00:26:08,176 --> 00:26:09,917 We can protect him. 594 00:26:10,011 --> 00:26:11,752 You'll have to find somebody else. 595 00:26:11,947 --> 00:26:15,861 Mrs. Velardi, he's the only one who heard Jon Telford 596 00:26:15,917 --> 00:26:17,487 threaten to harm the victim. 597 00:26:18,853 --> 00:26:20,298 Please, Mr. McCoy. 598 00:26:20,889 --> 00:26:22,562 Mrs. Velardi, I'll subpoena him 599 00:26:22,624 --> 00:26:24,069 and put him in front of the jury. 600 00:26:24,125 --> 00:26:25,934 And he'll say he made a mistake. 601 00:26:26,628 --> 00:26:28,972 His lawyer says he doesn't have to talk to you. 602 00:26:29,564 --> 00:26:31,339 We have nothing else to say. 603 00:26:37,339 --> 00:26:40,343 CARMICHAEL: Ryan Velardi was the lynch-pin of our case. 604 00:26:40,475 --> 00:26:42,978 Can you put the victim at Telford's building? 605 00:26:43,378 --> 00:26:46,825 The cops have been through it three times. Nobody saw him. 606 00:26:47,215 --> 00:26:48,387 ADAM: There was a blanket. 607 00:26:48,450 --> 00:26:51,795 Freshly dry cleaned. No hairs or fibers except for the victim's. 608 00:26:51,853 --> 00:26:55,096 This teenager commits the perfect crime. 609 00:26:55,156 --> 00:26:56,794 I know. It's hard to believe. 610 00:26:58,393 --> 00:27:02,239 CSU luminoled every conceivable spot in the Telford's building. 611 00:27:02,931 --> 00:27:04,342 They didn't find a drop of blood. 612 00:27:04,399 --> 00:27:08,541 We have the splatter games, the violent behavior, the illegal weapons. 613 00:27:09,204 --> 00:27:10,444 But there's no way to get it in. 614 00:27:10,505 --> 00:27:11,848 ADAM: Where'd he get the weapons? 615 00:27:11,906 --> 00:27:14,580 Mail order. Paid for with his father's credit card. 616 00:27:15,677 --> 00:27:18,681 (LAUGHS) Kid gets off, father buys his son a bazooka. 617 00:27:21,082 --> 00:27:23,323 (SIGHS) Charge the father. 618 00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:27,095 With providing the instrumentality? With murder. 619 00:27:28,323 --> 00:27:29,358 On what basis? 620 00:27:29,824 --> 00:27:31,326 Depraved indifference. 621 00:27:32,093 --> 00:27:34,767 Hold the father responsible for the criminal acts of the son? 622 00:27:35,230 --> 00:27:36,766 You don't think he's responsible? 623 00:27:36,831 --> 00:27:38,310 Morally, maybe. 624 00:27:38,366 --> 00:27:39,674 It's good enough for me. 625 00:27:39,734 --> 00:27:42,044 It's about time we knocked some sense into these parents. 626 00:27:43,605 --> 00:27:45,642 You're wielding a pretty big stick. 627 00:27:46,641 --> 00:27:49,247 They don't do the job puts it on us. 628 00:27:49,577 --> 00:27:50,578 Does it? 629 00:27:51,045 --> 00:27:52,422 Nobody's ever tried it. 630 00:27:54,416 --> 00:27:56,225 That ever stop you two before? 631 00:28:03,658 --> 00:28:04,830 What do you think? 632 00:28:07,195 --> 00:28:08,674 It makes me nervous. 633 00:28:09,964 --> 00:28:13,605 I don't know. Telford encourages Jon's aggressive behavior, 634 00:28:13,668 --> 00:28:16,148 he arms him to the teeth. Jury might buy it. 635 00:28:16,204 --> 00:28:17,615 That's what makes me nervous. 636 00:28:17,672 --> 00:28:21,415 We try them together. All Jon's prior bad acts become probative. 637 00:28:21,476 --> 00:28:24,013 We don't get the father, at least we get the kid. 638 00:28:27,715 --> 00:28:29,092 Bombs away. 639 00:28:30,919 --> 00:28:32,262 You're arresting me for what? 640 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,526 For the murder of Chris Skinner. 641 00:28:33,588 --> 00:28:34,828 Why are you doing this? 642 00:28:34,889 --> 00:28:35,959 Turn around, Mr. Telford? 643 00:28:36,024 --> 00:28:37,298 Not until my lawyer gets here. 644 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,997 You sure you want to do this in front of your son? 645 00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:40,164 Hey, get away from me. 646 00:28:40,228 --> 00:28:41,798 Get your hands off me! Come on. 647 00:28:41,863 --> 00:28:43,706 Jimmy, go to your room now! 648 00:28:43,765 --> 00:28:44,766 I don't believe this! 649 00:28:44,833 --> 00:28:47,370 No, I didn't expect you would. Give him Miranda. 650 00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:48,709 You have the right to remain silent, 651 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:50,181 which you should take us up on. 652 00:28:50,238 --> 00:28:53,219 Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law... 653 00:28:53,741 --> 00:28:55,414 Judge Fraser in arraignments 654 00:28:55,977 --> 00:28:58,082 didn't think our case was worth bail. 655 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,920 His problem. 656 00:28:59,981 --> 00:29:02,518 Our problem is how to make a case against Telford. 657 00:29:02,684 --> 00:29:05,130 Make sure the jury knows he dropped the ball. 658 00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:07,723 And we get a conviction for bad parenting. 659 00:29:08,189 --> 00:29:10,169 He gave his son a sword, 660 00:29:10,525 --> 00:29:12,630 sent him out to practice neck chops. 661 00:29:13,027 --> 00:29:15,633 Ah, bad parenting in the first degree. 662 00:29:15,697 --> 00:29:17,973 His indifference created the risk. 663 00:29:18,133 --> 00:29:20,807 Only a matter of time before that kid attacked somebody. 664 00:29:23,271 --> 00:29:26,718 Okay, suppose we pull it off. 665 00:29:28,343 --> 00:29:29,481 Who's next, Adam? 666 00:29:32,547 --> 00:29:36,120 What did Potter Stewart say about pornography? 667 00:29:36,184 --> 00:29:38,528 "I can't define what it is, but I know it when I see it." 668 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,026 Right. 669 00:29:40,889 --> 00:29:42,732 Telford could have stopped his son. 670 00:29:44,058 --> 00:29:46,436 The way I read the law, it makes him a murderer. 671 00:29:47,395 --> 00:29:49,033 Maybe you should try the case. 672 00:29:49,097 --> 00:29:50,235 (LAUGHS) 673 00:29:51,166 --> 00:29:53,203 I have to do all the work around here? 674 00:29:54,536 --> 00:29:56,015 Do you think he's innocent? 675 00:29:56,071 --> 00:29:57,175 I don't. 676 00:29:57,238 --> 00:29:59,479 Well, I'm sure you'll do fine. 677 00:30:09,050 --> 00:30:11,052 JACK: The People will prove that Jon Telford buried 678 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:14,566 a martial arts weapon called the kama 679 00:30:14,622 --> 00:30:16,533 into the neck of Chris Skinner. 680 00:30:16,958 --> 00:30:19,268 The evidence will show that this crime would not have happened 681 00:30:19,327 --> 00:30:23,673 had it not been for the total indifference of Jon Telford's father. 682 00:30:24,332 --> 00:30:26,334 Had Robert Telford opened his eyes 683 00:30:26,401 --> 00:30:29,848 to what was going on with his son in his own home, 684 00:30:29,904 --> 00:30:31,815 Chris Skinner would be with us today. 685 00:30:34,142 --> 00:30:36,315 I'll be frank with you, ladies and gentlemen. 686 00:30:36,444 --> 00:30:38,788 We're entering uncharted waters here. 687 00:30:40,348 --> 00:30:42,828 Once you bring a child into this world, 688 00:30:42,884 --> 00:30:44,921 there are obligations attached. 689 00:30:45,487 --> 00:30:48,661 Parents have a commitment to love and care for their child 690 00:30:48,723 --> 00:30:49,963 to nurture his growth, 691 00:30:50,024 --> 00:30:54,769 and they also have a commitment to us, to society, 692 00:30:54,829 --> 00:30:58,072 to make sure that their child obeys the law. 693 00:30:58,666 --> 00:31:02,443 You're going to hear evidence that Robert Telford dishonored both commitments. 694 00:31:04,639 --> 00:31:08,212 He nurtured his son's brutality 695 00:31:08,576 --> 00:31:10,522 and anti-social behavior. 696 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,193 Warned that his son was aggressive, a bully, 697 00:31:15,550 --> 00:31:18,394 a boy obsessed with images of cruelty and violence, 698 00:31:18,453 --> 00:31:20,023 he shrugged it off. 699 00:31:20,888 --> 00:31:24,893 He armed his son with instruments of death, 700 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,640 and then he let him loose on Chris Skinner. 701 00:31:31,733 --> 00:31:34,805 I don't have to prove to you that Mr. Telford 702 00:31:34,869 --> 00:31:37,748 was a direct cause of Chris's death. 703 00:31:37,805 --> 00:31:39,978 If he could have foreseen that his son 704 00:31:40,041 --> 00:31:42,715 would use his weapons to harm another person, 705 00:31:42,911 --> 00:31:46,984 and if he set that chain of events in motion through his inaction, 706 00:31:47,448 --> 00:31:51,794 the law says he committed depraved indifference murder. 707 00:31:52,754 --> 00:31:54,563 And in that case, 708 00:31:55,223 --> 00:31:59,035 the sins of the son should be visited on the father. 709 00:32:07,802 --> 00:32:10,942 Let's talk about what's really going on here. 710 00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:14,180 The People's case against Jon Telford 711 00:32:14,709 --> 00:32:17,383 is a handful of circumstantial evidence. 712 00:32:18,212 --> 00:32:23,059 Mr. McCoy wants to hold this pathetic bit of evidence together by one proposition. 713 00:32:24,052 --> 00:32:28,091 He's going to try to prove to you that Jon is a bad boy. 714 00:32:28,957 --> 00:32:33,030 He's asking you to convict Jon not on the evidence, 715 00:32:33,294 --> 00:32:35,069 but on his character. 716 00:32:35,129 --> 00:32:39,771 And he wants you to believe that Jon was so mean, so out of control 717 00:32:40,501 --> 00:32:43,072 that his father should be held legally responsible. 718 00:32:43,905 --> 00:32:47,216 The prosecution of Robert Telford is a ploy 719 00:32:47,275 --> 00:32:50,381 to admit bad character evidence against his son. 720 00:32:51,045 --> 00:32:53,252 Mr. Telford never heard of Chris Skinner. 721 00:32:53,615 --> 00:32:55,151 He was miles away when this happened. 722 00:32:55,216 --> 00:32:57,594 He didn't have a thing to do with this murder. 723 00:32:59,187 --> 00:33:01,189 Follow the ball, ladies and gentlemen. 724 00:33:01,623 --> 00:33:04,399 They can't prove a case against Jon directly, 725 00:33:04,525 --> 00:33:06,334 so they'll do it by innuendo. 726 00:33:06,427 --> 00:33:09,636 And for lack of an explanation for this terrible crime, 727 00:33:10,965 --> 00:33:12,410 they'll blame the parent. 728 00:33:13,701 --> 00:33:16,113 If you let them do this to Jon Telford, 729 00:33:17,305 --> 00:33:18,841 you'll be next. 730 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,748 Thank you. 731 00:33:25,613 --> 00:33:28,924 The tobacco residue we discovered in the Telford's stairwell 732 00:33:28,983 --> 00:33:31,463 was identical to the residue on the garbage bag 733 00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:33,260 where we found the victim's body. 734 00:33:33,554 --> 00:33:36,592 And when you made that discovery, Detective, what action did you take? 735 00:33:36,658 --> 00:33:38,103 We obtained a search warrant, 736 00:33:38,226 --> 00:33:41,833 and we recovered a kama in Jon Telford's room. 737 00:33:43,664 --> 00:33:44,938 People's three. 738 00:33:46,367 --> 00:33:49,473 Was there any kind of forensic test conducted on this weapon? 739 00:33:50,004 --> 00:33:51,005 Yes. 740 00:33:51,105 --> 00:33:54,143 It was consistent with the fatal wound in the victim's neck. 741 00:33:55,543 --> 00:33:57,352 CARMICHAEL: No further questions. 742 00:33:59,113 --> 00:34:01,059 Was any of the victim's blood 743 00:34:01,115 --> 00:34:04,392 found in the Telford's apartment or stairwell, Detective? 744 00:34:04,452 --> 00:34:05,556 BRISCOE: No. 745 00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:07,426 How about on the kama? 746 00:34:07,989 --> 00:34:09,059 No. 747 00:34:09,123 --> 00:34:10,625 You have children, don't you, Detective? 748 00:34:10,892 --> 00:34:12,872 Objection. JUDGE: Where are you going, Mr. Granick? 749 00:34:13,361 --> 00:34:16,274 The prosecution has raised the issue of parental responsibility. 750 00:34:16,397 --> 00:34:18,468 I'd like a little leeway to address their argument. 751 00:34:18,666 --> 00:34:20,236 Fine, Judge. But with this Detective? 752 00:34:20,301 --> 00:34:22,212 I'm going to give it to him Ms. Carmichael. 753 00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:24,681 You're the ones pushing the envelope. 754 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,078 Answer the question, Detective. 755 00:34:28,709 --> 00:34:31,019 I had two daughters. One of them was murdered. 756 00:34:31,746 --> 00:34:35,216 Because she turned state's evidence in a drug case? 757 00:34:36,384 --> 00:34:38,261 She was going to testify against a dealer. 758 00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:40,226 So she was selling drugs herself? 759 00:34:40,488 --> 00:34:41,694 Objection. 760 00:34:41,889 --> 00:34:42,993 Overruled. 761 00:34:46,561 --> 00:34:48,097 Yes, she was selling drugs. 762 00:34:48,730 --> 00:34:51,768 And as her father, under Mr. McCoy's theory, 763 00:34:52,033 --> 00:34:55,014 shouldn't you be held criminally responsible for her drug dealing? 764 00:35:00,708 --> 00:35:01,948 Criminally responsible? 765 00:35:03,311 --> 00:35:04,312 No. 766 00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:08,458 But I didn't give her the pills and teach her how to sell them. 767 00:35:11,319 --> 00:35:12,627 No further questions. 768 00:35:20,528 --> 00:35:22,166 CARMICHAEL: Beside the locker incident, 769 00:35:22,363 --> 00:35:23,706 what other things did Jon do to you? 770 00:35:23,798 --> 00:35:25,402 LEO: Locked me in the bathroom. 771 00:35:25,566 --> 00:35:26,943 What else, Leo? 772 00:35:27,001 --> 00:35:30,210 He put a knife against my neck and tried to get me in his basement. 773 00:35:32,006 --> 00:35:34,953 He called me names. Like what? 774 00:35:36,210 --> 00:35:37,587 Do I have to say? 775 00:35:38,446 --> 00:35:39,481 It's okay. 776 00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:43,254 Faggot. 777 00:35:44,018 --> 00:35:45,395 Homo boy. 778 00:35:45,453 --> 00:35:47,228 CARMICHAEL: Did you ever ask him to stop? 779 00:35:47,355 --> 00:35:50,893 Yeah. He just laughed at me. 780 00:35:51,392 --> 00:35:53,895 I told him my father was going to call his dad. 781 00:35:53,961 --> 00:35:56,168 He said, "Go ahead. Big deal." 782 00:35:57,532 --> 00:35:58,806 Thank you, Leo. 783 00:36:03,337 --> 00:36:05,817 Does your father let you play with video games at home? 784 00:36:05,873 --> 00:36:07,511 Yes. Like what, Leo? 785 00:36:08,009 --> 00:36:11,252 Well, uh, I have Death Match and Cyber Mafia. 786 00:36:11,546 --> 00:36:13,617 GRANICK: Did he ever buy you a toy gun or a knife? 787 00:36:14,115 --> 00:36:15,526 A Swiss Army Knife. 788 00:36:16,050 --> 00:36:18,963 Hmm, did you ever do anything bad? 789 00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:23,224 I don't believe it. Not one thing? 790 00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:27,104 (LAUGHS) Well, I broke my sister's glass animal collection. 791 00:36:27,962 --> 00:36:30,135 (LAUGHS) All right, you know the story of George Washington 792 00:36:30,198 --> 00:36:32,144 and the cherry tree, right? LEO: Yes. 793 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,474 When he did something wrong, 794 00:36:33,601 --> 00:36:35,478 he took responsibility for it, right? 795 00:36:36,204 --> 00:36:37,410 That's what the story's about. 796 00:36:37,672 --> 00:36:39,208 And when you broke your sister's things, 797 00:36:39,507 --> 00:36:41,282 you took responsibility, right? 798 00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:42,376 Right. 799 00:36:42,476 --> 00:36:44,319 You didn't say it was your father's fault, did you? 800 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:46,080 No. 801 00:36:48,583 --> 00:36:51,120 It's a truth so simple, even a child can grasp it. 802 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,594 Thank you, Leo. 803 00:37:04,332 --> 00:37:06,573 I'm a delivery dispatcher for Bloomingdales. 804 00:37:07,768 --> 00:37:11,443 My wife Sandra manages the produce department in a supermarket. 805 00:37:11,505 --> 00:37:14,213 And what kind of hours do you and your wife work? 806 00:37:14,275 --> 00:37:15,879 I work a lot of overtime. 807 00:37:15,943 --> 00:37:18,822 Sandra works a regular shift but sometimes it's nights. 808 00:37:18,879 --> 00:37:21,519 Did you receive any complaints about Jon from school? 809 00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:24,352 Just a call from that teacher that time. 810 00:37:24,652 --> 00:37:27,258 Oh. Well, she testified that you hung up on her. 811 00:37:27,989 --> 00:37:30,230 Look, maybe I was a little thick. 812 00:37:30,892 --> 00:37:33,668 You know, she was talking about Internet this, Internet that. 813 00:37:33,828 --> 00:37:36,138 (LAUGHS) I don't know much about it. 814 00:37:36,197 --> 00:37:40,737 (LAUGHS) Well, do you know about the video games your son plays? 815 00:37:40,801 --> 00:37:41,802 I know they're violent. 816 00:37:43,070 --> 00:37:46,244 When we were a kid, we used to play combat and blow up the Nazis. 817 00:37:46,774 --> 00:37:49,380 You know, the way I see it, kids are the same. 818 00:37:49,443 --> 00:37:50,683 Just the technology's different. 819 00:37:51,979 --> 00:37:54,516 GRANICK: How did Jon get involved in martial arts? 820 00:37:54,749 --> 00:37:56,751 I took him to karate lessons when he was little. 821 00:37:57,418 --> 00:37:59,420 And is that why he had these weapons? 822 00:37:59,654 --> 00:38:01,998 Uh, no. He quit the lessons. 823 00:38:02,156 --> 00:38:03,464 But he was gettin' picked on at school 824 00:38:03,524 --> 00:38:04,832 by some of the football players, 825 00:38:04,892 --> 00:38:07,702 so I just thought this might help him with his confidence. 826 00:38:08,562 --> 00:38:10,166 GRANICK: Nothing further. 827 00:38:16,804 --> 00:38:19,307 How did your son get this, Mr. Telford? 828 00:38:19,373 --> 00:38:22,217 Jon showed me how to order the karate gear on a computer. 829 00:38:23,010 --> 00:38:26,287 I gave him my credit card number to buy the stuff. 830 00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:28,724 This karate gear, as you call it 831 00:38:29,283 --> 00:38:31,923 you can't buy it in New York state, can you? 832 00:38:32,019 --> 00:38:35,023 ROBERT: A brother of mine lives in Virginia. We had it shipped down there. 833 00:38:35,523 --> 00:38:38,697 So you enabled your son to buy illegal weapons. 834 00:38:38,893 --> 00:38:40,270 Boys like that stuff. 835 00:38:40,761 --> 00:38:42,798 Didn't you ever have a slingshot when you were a kid? 836 00:38:42,863 --> 00:38:44,399 Made out of a tree branch. 837 00:38:45,099 --> 00:38:48,478 It wasn't contraband from an 'adults only' website. 838 00:38:48,536 --> 00:38:50,243 It taught him how to defend himself. 839 00:38:50,304 --> 00:38:53,251 Without any kind of training or supervision? 840 00:38:53,507 --> 00:38:54,986 He was practicing on his own. 841 00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:57,886 Only he was practicing to be a bully, wasn't he, Mr. Telford? 842 00:38:58,946 --> 00:39:01,051 When he was 13, some punk held 843 00:39:01,115 --> 00:39:05,029 a knife to his throat and took his money. He came home crying. 844 00:39:05,086 --> 00:39:07,692 So this is your idea of parenting? 845 00:39:07,755 --> 00:39:12,226 To send him out with this, and this, and this? 846 00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:15,641 Listen, it's a different world than when you and I grew up. 847 00:39:15,763 --> 00:39:19,074 A kid throws a punch now another kid pulls out a gun. 848 00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:20,779 JACK: How about teaching him not to fight? 849 00:39:20,835 --> 00:39:23,076 ROBERT: What, so they could rob his money again? 850 00:39:23,337 --> 00:39:25,943 I wanted him to stand up for himself. 851 00:39:26,273 --> 00:39:27,274 To be a man. 852 00:39:28,342 --> 00:39:30,117 They laugh at you when you say that now. 853 00:39:30,177 --> 00:39:31,986 But yeah. What's wrong with that? 854 00:39:32,279 --> 00:39:36,421 Was he being a man when he tortured Leo Clayton in school? 855 00:39:36,484 --> 00:39:37,690 ROBERT: Jon wouldn't do that. 856 00:39:37,752 --> 00:39:40,198 When he held a knife against his throat? 857 00:39:40,788 --> 00:39:41,994 I don't know the story on that. 858 00:39:42,056 --> 00:39:43,330 JACK: You knew he was carrying a knife. 859 00:39:43,424 --> 00:39:45,461 ROBERT: I knew he had one, but he knew not to use it. 860 00:39:45,726 --> 00:39:47,501 Well, he did use it, Mr. Telford. 861 00:39:47,561 --> 00:39:48,562 Isn't that what you taught him? 862 00:39:48,996 --> 00:39:50,839 No. To relieve his feelings 863 00:39:50,898 --> 00:39:52,468 of helplessness with aggression? 864 00:39:52,533 --> 00:39:53,841 That's just more PC crap. 865 00:39:53,968 --> 00:39:57,006 Or to retreat into his fantasy world on his computer. 866 00:39:57,071 --> 00:39:59,051 He's not the only kid playing these things. 867 00:39:59,106 --> 00:40:02,019 You stood there and watched while your son 868 00:40:02,076 --> 00:40:04,352 turned into a killer didn't you, Mr. Telford? 869 00:40:05,012 --> 00:40:06,650 That's ridiculous. 870 00:40:07,047 --> 00:40:09,459 I wanted my kid to protect himself. 871 00:40:09,684 --> 00:40:13,564 You were proud when he dished it out at school, weren't you? 872 00:40:13,687 --> 00:40:15,394 I wasn't proud. 873 00:40:15,523 --> 00:40:17,730 You know what those football players called him? 874 00:40:18,092 --> 00:40:19,264 Fluff boy and... 875 00:40:19,326 --> 00:40:21,328 Is that what this is about, Mr. Telford? You were ashamed? 876 00:40:21,395 --> 00:40:23,932 Where do you get off tryin' to tell me how to raise my kid, huh? 877 00:40:23,998 --> 00:40:25,238 You think it's easy? 878 00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,977 I love my boys! I did the best that I could! 879 00:40:29,036 --> 00:40:30,242 You did not! 880 00:40:30,871 --> 00:40:32,043 JUDGE: Sit down, Mrs. Telford. 881 00:40:32,106 --> 00:40:34,313 It's not true! He ruined him! 882 00:40:34,375 --> 00:40:36,218 JUDGE: Mrs. Telford. (JUDGE POUNDS GAVEL) 883 00:40:36,277 --> 00:40:37,654 I want a mistrial, Judge. 884 00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:40,859 Let's step outside. 885 00:40:46,687 --> 00:40:48,894 I'll instruct the jury to ignore the outburst. 886 00:40:48,956 --> 00:40:50,958 (LAUGHS) Oh, gimme a break, Judge. 887 00:40:51,025 --> 00:40:53,301 How can my clients get a fair trial after that? 888 00:40:53,361 --> 00:40:54,738 The defendant brought it on himself. 889 00:40:54,795 --> 00:40:56,399 The People oppose a mistrial. 890 00:40:56,964 --> 00:40:58,910 And you're not getting one, Mr. Granick. 891 00:40:58,966 --> 00:41:00,343 I'm not wasting two weeks' work. 892 00:41:00,401 --> 00:41:02,813 Judge... That means you have a problem. 893 00:41:04,505 --> 00:41:05,950 We'll recess till tomorrow. 894 00:41:13,981 --> 00:41:16,928 JACK: Jon admits to murder, I'll consider man one. 895 00:41:16,984 --> 00:41:18,691 And my husband gets off? 896 00:41:18,819 --> 00:41:20,890 Man two. Reckless homicide. 897 00:41:21,122 --> 00:41:22,362 I didn't kill the kid. 898 00:41:22,423 --> 00:41:25,563 You got Jon. You really need a pound of flesh from Mr. Telford? 899 00:41:25,626 --> 00:41:27,003 I'm not taking any deal. 900 00:41:27,361 --> 00:41:28,396 JACK: We'll see you tomorrow. 901 00:41:28,562 --> 00:41:30,064 SANDRA: What if I give you evidence? 902 00:41:30,231 --> 00:41:31,676 Will you make a deal with Jon? 903 00:41:34,201 --> 00:41:35,305 What are you doing? 904 00:41:35,369 --> 00:41:37,144 What I should have done all along. 905 00:41:37,505 --> 00:41:39,348 What kind of evidence, Mrs. Telford? 906 00:41:41,242 --> 00:41:42,585 About the blanket. 907 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:43,984 Shut up, Sandra. 908 00:41:44,044 --> 00:41:45,216 Please, Mrs. Telford. 909 00:41:45,279 --> 00:41:47,316 And I'll testify against my husband. 910 00:41:48,182 --> 00:41:49,286 About what? 911 00:41:49,350 --> 00:41:51,660 About what you've done to us all these years. 912 00:41:53,087 --> 00:41:54,964 (CRYING) The weapons, the fighting. 913 00:41:56,857 --> 00:41:58,962 I've watched it long enough. 914 00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:02,768 You want me to go to jail? 915 00:42:02,830 --> 00:42:05,037 I see what you did to Jon. 916 00:42:06,467 --> 00:42:08,572 You're not going to do it to Jimmy. 917 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,277 Tell Mr. McCoy what happened, Jon. 918 00:42:16,810 --> 00:42:17,948 No, Mom. 919 00:42:18,112 --> 00:42:19,819 That's right, Son. Don't say a word. 920 00:42:21,482 --> 00:42:25,294 Tell him or I'll tell him about our blanket. 921 00:42:29,557 --> 00:42:31,195 Damn you, Sandra. 922 00:42:34,028 --> 00:42:35,507 It's over, Jon. 923 00:42:39,466 --> 00:42:40,638 Please. 924 00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:43,676 Say what you did. 925 00:42:56,650 --> 00:42:58,527 I made Chris come into our apartment. 926 00:43:01,522 --> 00:43:04,230 I was just going to take his candy money, I swear. 927 00:43:07,294 --> 00:43:11,401 But he punched me in the stomach hard, and... 928 00:43:13,834 --> 00:43:16,041 The kama was on the wall, and... 929 00:43:18,672 --> 00:43:21,152 I grabbed it, and I swung it at him. (CRYING) 930 00:43:30,684 --> 00:43:32,220 Man one, 10-to-20. 931 00:43:36,457 --> 00:43:38,266 How can you do this to me? 932 00:43:48,669 --> 00:43:50,114 I didn't kill that kid. 933 00:43:52,339 --> 00:43:53,818 Man two, two-to-six. 934 00:43:54,942 --> 00:43:57,320 Or I put your wife on the stand. 935 00:43:59,346 --> 00:44:01,622 Would you rather risk a murder conviction? 936 00:44:01,949 --> 00:44:03,019 Take it, Dad. 937 00:44:04,752 --> 00:44:07,289 Oh, now you're tellin' me what to do? 938 00:44:07,655 --> 00:44:09,601 I'll do what I said, Robert. 939 00:44:11,425 --> 00:44:13,098 It's a fair offer. 940 00:44:14,895 --> 00:44:16,340 (SIGHS) 941 00:44:18,132 --> 00:44:20,271 Now or never, Mr. Telford. 942 00:44:29,877 --> 00:44:31,185 Fine. 943 00:44:41,922 --> 00:44:45,335 Sandra Telford had her husband served with divorce papers at Rikers. 944 00:44:45,826 --> 00:44:47,965 Sacrificed her marriage to save her sons. 945 00:44:48,562 --> 00:44:51,634 She spoke up sooner, she might have saved Chris Skinner. 946 00:44:52,366 --> 00:44:53,902 Want to put her in jail, too? 947 00:44:54,401 --> 00:44:55,641 Don't tempt me. 948 00:44:55,691 --> 00:45:00,241 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 73226

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