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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,752 --> 00:00:02,459 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:02,521 --> 00:00:06,435 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:06,491 --> 00:00:08,300 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,136 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,196 --> 00:00:12,675 These are their stories. 6 00:00:14,399 --> 00:00:15,707 (LAUGHING) 7 00:00:16,335 --> 00:00:18,212 I've been lied to by experts. 8 00:00:18,270 --> 00:00:23,083 Like I said, no wife, no roommates, no live-ins. 9 00:00:23,975 --> 00:00:25,113 No problems, baby. 10 00:00:25,177 --> 00:00:26,178 (LAUGHING) 11 00:00:26,244 --> 00:00:27,314 (MOANING) 12 00:00:28,547 --> 00:00:29,548 Oh. 13 00:00:30,048 --> 00:00:31,152 Red lipstick? 14 00:00:31,216 --> 00:00:32,217 (SIGHING) 15 00:00:32,951 --> 00:00:34,055 My mother's. 16 00:00:34,119 --> 00:00:35,257 (BOTH CHUCKLING) 17 00:00:40,292 --> 00:00:43,364 You want a drink, baby? Wine? 18 00:00:43,495 --> 00:00:46,066 Uh-huh. A glass of red wine would be nice. 19 00:00:46,131 --> 00:00:47,166 All right. 20 00:00:50,602 --> 00:00:52,548 Are you sure you're not married? 21 00:00:52,604 --> 00:00:54,481 Last time I checked. 22 00:00:54,673 --> 00:00:55,981 (FRIDGE DOOR OPENING) 23 00:00:56,808 --> 00:00:57,980 (FRIDGE DOOR CLOSING) 24 00:00:58,043 --> 00:00:59,249 (BOTTLES CLINKING) 25 00:01:01,046 --> 00:01:02,150 (BEEPING) 26 00:01:02,214 --> 00:01:05,058 WOMAN OVER SPEAKER: I did it. You don't have to worry anymore. 27 00:01:05,784 --> 00:01:06,854 I killed Dee-Dee. 28 00:01:06,918 --> 00:01:08,022 (BEEPS) 29 00:01:09,554 --> 00:01:10,760 Here we go. 30 00:01:10,822 --> 00:01:12,859 I just remembered, there's someplace I gotta be. 31 00:01:12,924 --> 00:01:14,460 Oh, Come on, baby. What's the matter? 32 00:01:14,526 --> 00:01:15,596 RATTINGER: No. 33 00:01:15,660 --> 00:01:17,230 Stop it! Stop it! Come on. 34 00:01:17,295 --> 00:01:18,569 What? (GASPS) 35 00:01:19,865 --> 00:01:21,003 Come on. 36 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:24,947 Hey, what did I do? Come on, now! 37 00:01:25,003 --> 00:01:26,038 (SIGHS) 38 00:01:26,938 --> 00:01:29,077 The message said, "I killed her." 39 00:01:29,141 --> 00:01:30,779 Are you sure you heard right? 40 00:01:30,876 --> 00:01:33,880 (CLEARING THROAT) I mean, you said yourself, you'd had a few drinks. 41 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:37,185 This guy had someone killed. It said so on the machine. 42 00:01:37,649 --> 00:01:38,889 And where can we find him? 43 00:01:38,950 --> 00:01:42,022 You know that big building on the corner of Riverside and 114th? 44 00:01:42,087 --> 00:01:43,794 Well, that's where he lives. 45 00:01:43,855 --> 00:01:45,198 Okay. 46 00:01:45,557 --> 00:01:46,627 What's his name? 47 00:01:47,292 --> 00:01:48,532 Stanley. 48 00:01:48,927 --> 00:01:52,170 He said he was a fashion photographer, but I don't know where. 49 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:54,369 Okay, let me see if I got this straight. 50 00:01:54,433 --> 00:01:58,506 Stanley somebody, who's a fashion photographer someplace, 51 00:01:58,570 --> 00:02:03,280 lives in some apartment, probably in a building at 114th and Riverside 52 00:02:03,341 --> 00:02:06,288 and has a message about the murder of somebody 53 00:02:06,344 --> 00:02:07,755 who might be named Dee-Dee. 54 00:02:07,913 --> 00:02:08,983 That's right. 55 00:02:09,548 --> 00:02:11,323 Yeah, thanks for coming in. 56 00:02:11,383 --> 00:02:13,420 You think you could describe him to our sketch artist? 57 00:02:13,819 --> 00:02:14,889 Yes. Good. 58 00:02:14,953 --> 00:02:17,160 You wait here. We'll bring someone. 59 00:02:17,389 --> 00:02:19,027 Oh, this is gonna be a slam dunk, Rey. 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,347 CRISPIN: I got Stan Arnold, Stan Hudson, 61 00:03:10,408 --> 00:03:12,820 except he's in New Mexico till the end of October. 62 00:03:12,878 --> 00:03:14,118 Stan Kaminski... 63 00:03:14,179 --> 00:03:15,817 Why don't you take a look at the picture. 64 00:03:16,381 --> 00:03:18,019 Our Stanley is a photographer. 65 00:03:18,083 --> 00:03:21,189 About my height, dark hair, likes to pick up women in bars... 66 00:03:21,253 --> 00:03:22,254 Kaminski. 67 00:03:22,587 --> 00:03:24,396 Did you see him with anyone last night? 68 00:03:24,489 --> 00:03:27,095 When the Rangers play, I don't see anything except the television. 69 00:03:27,158 --> 00:03:28,432 Where can we find him? 70 00:03:28,493 --> 00:03:30,769 He works in a lumber store, West 88th. 71 00:03:32,297 --> 00:03:34,937 She had dark hair, skinny. I don't remember her name. 72 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,980 Does the name "Ellen" ring a bell? 73 00:03:37,135 --> 00:03:38,273 Something happen to her? 74 00:03:38,336 --> 00:03:39,440 Just tell us what went on. 75 00:03:40,438 --> 00:03:42,918 We go back to my place. One minute she's warming up, 76 00:03:42,974 --> 00:03:44,681 next thing it's a no-hitter. 77 00:03:44,943 --> 00:03:46,980 But I didn't touch her. She saying I touched her? 78 00:03:47,045 --> 00:03:48,149 No. 79 00:03:48,213 --> 00:03:50,921 You return all the calls you got on your answering machine last night? 80 00:03:50,982 --> 00:03:52,757 I haven't checked the messages. 81 00:03:53,184 --> 00:03:55,027 CURTIS: Do you know a girl by the name of "Dee-Dee"? 82 00:03:55,086 --> 00:03:57,066 What's this got to do with my answering machine? 83 00:03:57,122 --> 00:03:59,762 She says someone left a message on your machine about Dee-Dee. 84 00:03:59,824 --> 00:04:03,704 This chick listens to my answering machine, invading my privacy, 85 00:04:03,762 --> 00:04:04,866 and I'm the one getting the third degree? 86 00:04:04,930 --> 00:04:06,238 Who's Dee-Dee, Stan? 87 00:04:06,298 --> 00:04:07,572 (LAUGHS) I don't know any Dee-Dee. 88 00:04:07,632 --> 00:04:09,771 Good, then you won't mind us listening to your messages, 89 00:04:09,834 --> 00:04:11,404 we'll clear this up, and we'll be on our way. 90 00:04:11,469 --> 00:04:13,346 Come on, man, I'm working here. What do you want from me? 91 00:04:13,405 --> 00:04:15,214 We'll square it with your boss. 92 00:04:15,473 --> 00:04:16,679 And I'm leaving with two cops? 93 00:04:16,741 --> 00:04:18,015 Well, look at the bright side, Stan, 94 00:04:18,076 --> 00:04:19,885 you're not wearing handcuffs. 95 00:04:20,912 --> 00:04:22,220 (ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPING) 96 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:24,760 AUTOMATED VOICE: Number of messages received, two. 97 00:04:24,883 --> 00:04:25,918 (BEEPING) 98 00:04:25,984 --> 00:04:29,193 Hi, this is Kristin, from the clam house last Friday. 99 00:04:29,254 --> 00:04:30,460 I'm off the whole weekend. 100 00:04:30,522 --> 00:04:33,833 Have bikini, will travel, if you still wanna go to your place in Jamaica. 101 00:04:33,925 --> 00:04:37,372 The number's 555-0137. Bye. 102 00:04:37,462 --> 00:04:38,497 (BEEPING) 103 00:04:38,563 --> 00:04:40,839 AUTOMATED VOICE: Friday, 11:20 a.m. 104 00:04:40,899 --> 00:04:42,242 You're a busy man. 105 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:43,404 (BEEPING) 106 00:04:43,868 --> 00:04:46,940 Mr. Kaminski, this is Mr. Lee from OK Cable. 107 00:04:47,005 --> 00:04:49,815 Could you give us a call regarding your outstanding balance? 108 00:04:49,874 --> 00:04:51,080 (BEEPING) 109 00:04:51,309 --> 00:04:55,985 AUTOMATED VOICE: Friday, 12:47 p.m. End of final message. 110 00:04:56,648 --> 00:04:59,094 So, which one of these is supposed to be from Dee-Dee? 111 00:04:59,150 --> 00:05:00,288 (TAPE REWINDING) 112 00:05:01,653 --> 00:05:03,894 The tape rewinds after the last message plays? 113 00:05:03,955 --> 00:05:04,990 Yeah. 114 00:05:05,056 --> 00:05:06,865 Then, we're gonna need to take the tape with us. 115 00:05:08,326 --> 00:05:09,566 Let me just get a pen. 116 00:05:11,429 --> 00:05:13,170 555-0137. 117 00:05:13,231 --> 00:05:14,232 What? 118 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,379 Have bikini, will travel, 555-0137. 119 00:05:18,436 --> 00:05:19,574 (CLEARS THROAT) 120 00:05:24,776 --> 00:05:26,221 The loudness of the original message 121 00:05:26,277 --> 00:05:28,257 and the high-frequency left a print-through. 122 00:05:29,047 --> 00:05:30,458 (TAPE REWINDING) 123 00:05:31,683 --> 00:05:32,821 (BEEPING) 124 00:05:32,884 --> 00:05:35,865 WOMAN: (DISTORTED) I did it. You don't have to worry anymore. 125 00:05:36,421 --> 00:05:38,025 I killed Dee-Dee. (BEEPING) 126 00:05:38,356 --> 00:05:41,803 KRISTIN: The number is 555... AUTOMATED VOICE: Thursday, 7:37 p.m. 127 00:05:42,394 --> 00:05:45,102 Sounds young. Probably female. Early 20s. 128 00:05:45,163 --> 00:05:47,507 Maybe he got one of his girlfriends to kill Dee-Dee. 129 00:05:47,565 --> 00:05:51,035 This guy's good-looking, but not that good-looking. Thanks. 130 00:05:51,970 --> 00:05:55,213 Don't you have crimes with actual bodies to investigate? 131 00:05:55,273 --> 00:05:57,719 It could be, she just wants to rattle his chain. 132 00:05:57,776 --> 00:06:00,382 Hey, if she just wanted to make trouble for him, she could've yelled "rape." 133 00:06:00,445 --> 00:06:01,515 (DOOR OPENING) 134 00:06:01,579 --> 00:06:05,755 Okay. Stanley Kaminski, 1995, assault three, probation. 135 00:06:05,817 --> 00:06:07,387 And last April, a Dina Perucci 136 00:06:07,452 --> 00:06:08,954 got an order of protection against him. 137 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:10,693 Dina... Dee-Dee? 138 00:06:11,056 --> 00:06:13,332 Go see if Dina's still alive and kicking. 139 00:06:14,325 --> 00:06:15,429 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 140 00:06:15,493 --> 00:06:17,097 Miss Perucci? Who are you? 141 00:06:17,162 --> 00:06:19,005 I'm Detective Briscoe, this is Detective Curtis. 142 00:06:19,064 --> 00:06:21,772 I'm Theresa Green. Dina's not home. 143 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:23,004 Do you know when she'll be back? 144 00:06:23,068 --> 00:06:24,570 She hasn't been around since Monday. 145 00:06:24,869 --> 00:06:26,075 Is that unusual for her? 146 00:06:26,871 --> 00:06:28,043 We're flight attendants. 147 00:06:28,106 --> 00:06:30,017 Do you know her boyfriend, Stan Kaminski? 148 00:06:30,075 --> 00:06:32,214 Oh, that guy? What did he do now? 149 00:06:32,277 --> 00:06:34,621 Well, she had a protection order against him. 150 00:06:34,679 --> 00:06:37,523 Dina breaks up with him, one week later, 2:00 in the morning, 151 00:06:37,582 --> 00:06:38,720 he comes banging on our door. 152 00:06:38,783 --> 00:06:40,262 When's the last time you saw her? 153 00:06:40,418 --> 00:06:42,830 Monday morning. I had a flight, 154 00:06:42,887 --> 00:06:45,265 and when I got back, she wasn't here. 155 00:06:46,424 --> 00:06:49,132 How many times do I have to tell you, I don't know this Dee-Dee. 156 00:06:49,194 --> 00:06:52,903 How about Dina Perucci. You know who she is, don't you? 157 00:06:53,264 --> 00:06:55,039 What's she got to do with this? 158 00:06:55,100 --> 00:06:57,341 She had an order of protection against you. 159 00:06:58,369 --> 00:07:00,246 Dina overreacted. 160 00:07:00,672 --> 00:07:02,618 You like playing rough with women, Stan? 161 00:07:02,674 --> 00:07:06,281 (LAUGHS) I knocked on Dina's door. What's the big deal? 162 00:07:06,344 --> 00:07:09,814 The big deal is the murder confession on your answering machine. 163 00:07:10,615 --> 00:07:12,151 Where's Dina? 164 00:07:13,118 --> 00:07:14,620 I haven't seen her in months. 165 00:07:14,786 --> 00:07:16,663 She jammed you up with that restraining order. 166 00:07:16,721 --> 00:07:18,428 Maybe you wanted to jam her, too? 167 00:07:18,490 --> 00:07:19,764 (SIGHING) 168 00:07:20,825 --> 00:07:23,635 Maybe the message was a mistake, a wrong number. 169 00:07:23,695 --> 00:07:24,833 When I first got this number, 170 00:07:24,896 --> 00:07:26,773 I used to get a lot of calls for some other guy. 171 00:07:27,465 --> 00:07:28,876 This other guy got a name? 172 00:07:29,334 --> 00:07:30,938 Ray or Roy. 173 00:07:31,002 --> 00:07:33,073 "Ray or Roy," that's all you got? 174 00:07:33,138 --> 00:07:34,276 Come on. Let's go. 175 00:07:34,339 --> 00:07:35,784 What about this other guy, Ray? 176 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,116 When you remember anything more about him, like his last name, 177 00:07:38,176 --> 00:07:40,053 tell lock-up, they'll let us know. 178 00:07:41,446 --> 00:07:45,588 Hey, we heard from Worldwide Dina Perucci's in Athens on a layover. 179 00:07:45,650 --> 00:07:47,129 So, Dina's not Dee-Dee. 180 00:07:47,185 --> 00:07:49,392 Or she is, and the phone call was just a prank. 181 00:07:49,454 --> 00:07:51,991 Or she isn't, and the call was for this guy, Roy. 182 00:07:52,056 --> 00:07:53,091 Listen, send Mr. Kaminski home. 183 00:07:53,158 --> 00:07:54,193 Uh-huh. 184 00:07:54,259 --> 00:07:55,704 We don't have the budget for this. 185 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,637 Do you have a current address? 186 00:07:58,096 --> 00:07:59,769 All right. Thanks. 187 00:08:00,031 --> 00:08:02,739 Roy Lawlor, he had the number before Kaminski. 188 00:08:03,067 --> 00:08:04,273 (SIGHS) 189 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,218 WOMAN OVER SPEAKER: I did it. You don't have to worry anymore. 190 00:08:11,276 --> 00:08:12,550 I killed Dee-Dee. 191 00:08:14,813 --> 00:08:16,349 Do you recognize the voice? 192 00:08:16,414 --> 00:08:17,688 No idea. 193 00:08:18,516 --> 00:08:20,462 You don't know anybody named Dee-Dee, huh? 194 00:08:20,518 --> 00:08:21,553 No. 195 00:08:21,619 --> 00:08:23,462 Diane? Dina? Doris? 196 00:08:24,022 --> 00:08:26,696 Maybe somebody you met along your route? 197 00:08:27,458 --> 00:08:30,371 The only people I meet are named Roberto and Jacques. 198 00:08:30,428 --> 00:08:34,968 Oh, yeah, and Joe the barber. And they're not killing each other over me. 199 00:08:36,734 --> 00:08:38,680 Hey, two packs a day? 200 00:08:38,736 --> 00:08:40,079 Ever since I quit drinking. 201 00:08:42,574 --> 00:08:44,383 You a friend of Bill W.? 202 00:08:45,977 --> 00:08:48,514 Yeah, when I quit, I went half nuts. 203 00:08:50,348 --> 00:08:53,227 I went into the program when my marriage broke up. 204 00:08:53,284 --> 00:08:54,592 It's still a struggle. 205 00:08:55,053 --> 00:08:56,930 One day at a time, huh? 206 00:08:58,590 --> 00:09:01,127 Sure. One long day. 207 00:09:05,864 --> 00:09:07,400 Roy's out in the field most of the time. 208 00:09:07,465 --> 00:09:08,500 What does he cover? 209 00:09:08,566 --> 00:09:10,978 The Bronx, uptown Manhattan to Lincoln Center, 210 00:09:11,035 --> 00:09:13,037 East Side to 86th Street. 211 00:09:13,104 --> 00:09:14,378 You guys are from the 15? 212 00:09:14,439 --> 00:09:15,474 No, 21. 213 00:09:15,540 --> 00:09:18,646 You know anybody at the 15? I got parking problems. 214 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:20,587 Four tickets in the past month. 215 00:09:21,346 --> 00:09:25,192 My guys pull up outside, double-park for two minutes to restock, 216 00:09:25,250 --> 00:09:28,254 by the time they get back to the car, there's a ticket. 217 00:09:28,319 --> 00:09:31,300 Listen, is Lawlor close with any of the other salesmen? 218 00:09:31,623 --> 00:09:33,967 No, he doesn't spend much time with the other guys. 219 00:09:34,025 --> 00:09:36,835 Most of them work out of town, the tri-state area. 220 00:09:36,895 --> 00:09:38,670 Lawlor has to stay pretty much in the city. 221 00:09:38,730 --> 00:09:39,800 CURTIS: How come? 222 00:09:39,864 --> 00:09:41,366 I couldn't get insurance on him. 223 00:09:41,432 --> 00:09:43,173 Our carrier said he was a liability. 224 00:09:43,635 --> 00:09:45,410 What's his problem? DUIs? 225 00:09:45,470 --> 00:09:47,177 HESS: Something under the influence. 226 00:09:48,106 --> 00:09:51,679 Two years ago, he got drunk, passed out, and started a fire. 227 00:09:51,743 --> 00:09:52,915 Killed somebody. 228 00:09:53,244 --> 00:09:54,245 Who? 229 00:09:55,013 --> 00:09:56,924 His daughter, Diane. 230 00:09:57,982 --> 00:09:59,052 Dee-Dee. 231 00:09:59,984 --> 00:10:02,294 So, what should I do with the parking tickets? 232 00:10:02,787 --> 00:10:05,427 (SIGHING) Pay them, like we do. 233 00:10:08,893 --> 00:10:12,033 Five-year-old kid asleep on a daybed in a corner of the room. 234 00:10:12,096 --> 00:10:15,305 Fire company got there in the early stages, but the windows were shut. 235 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,811 Smoke inhalation. 236 00:10:16,868 --> 00:10:18,905 Father recovered. Kid didn't. 237 00:10:18,970 --> 00:10:22,144 EMTs worked on her for 45 minutes, but she was already dead. 238 00:10:22,206 --> 00:10:23,776 How did it start? With a cigarette 239 00:10:24,108 --> 00:10:26,554 in the living room, near the couch where we found Lawlor. 240 00:10:26,611 --> 00:10:29,114 Says here it started three feet from the couch. 241 00:10:29,180 --> 00:10:30,659 Now usually, if someone drops a cigarette, 242 00:10:30,715 --> 00:10:32,160 doesn't the fire start on or near them? 243 00:10:32,216 --> 00:10:33,718 That's a good point. 244 00:10:33,785 --> 00:10:35,924 There were cigarette butts all over the floor. 245 00:10:35,987 --> 00:10:38,627 I guess the investigator figured one of them hit some newspapers. 246 00:10:38,690 --> 00:10:39,760 Who called it in? 247 00:10:39,824 --> 00:10:41,030 Neighbor's dog started going crazy. 248 00:10:41,426 --> 00:10:43,064 She went into the hall, smelled the smoke. 249 00:10:43,261 --> 00:10:44,365 And Lawlor says he started the fire? 250 00:10:44,429 --> 00:10:45,464 After he came to. 251 00:10:45,530 --> 00:10:47,100 He was out when they found him. 252 00:10:47,165 --> 00:10:48,200 Because of the smoke inhalation? 253 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,673 That, and his blood alcohol was .25. He was loaded. 254 00:10:52,937 --> 00:10:54,439 Where was the mother at the time? 255 00:10:54,839 --> 00:10:57,877 Upstate, Saratoga. 256 00:10:59,210 --> 00:11:01,451 Awfully big memory lapse, Roy. 257 00:11:02,113 --> 00:11:03,990 You try dealing with something like this. 258 00:11:04,048 --> 00:11:05,425 Who made the phone call? 259 00:11:05,483 --> 00:11:08,259 I don't know. Somebody's trying to spook me. 260 00:11:08,686 --> 00:11:10,529 Now who'd do that? 261 00:11:11,589 --> 00:11:13,466 I don't know. You want a list 262 00:11:13,524 --> 00:11:15,367 of the people I've pissed off, pull up a seat. 263 00:11:15,460 --> 00:11:17,030 Why don't we start with your ex-wife. 264 00:11:17,095 --> 00:11:18,267 ROY: (SIGHING) Come on. 265 00:11:18,463 --> 00:11:21,967 Don't go re-hashing it with her. She's been through enough. 266 00:11:22,967 --> 00:11:24,605 She a drinker, too, Roy? 267 00:11:28,006 --> 00:11:29,280 You wanna tell us where to find her? 268 00:11:30,742 --> 00:11:32,312 I don't know where she is. 269 00:11:32,377 --> 00:11:33,879 Oh, you don't keep in touch with her? 270 00:11:35,513 --> 00:11:38,824 Like I said, she's been through enough. 271 00:11:39,851 --> 00:11:42,457 You used my Social Security number to look up where I work? 272 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,227 And your boss sent us here. 273 00:11:44,288 --> 00:11:47,064 (SCOFFS) Can't even drink in peace anymore. 274 00:11:47,225 --> 00:11:48,295 (SIGHING) Mrs. Lawlor... 275 00:11:48,359 --> 00:11:49,394 Call me Sandra. 276 00:11:49,894 --> 00:11:52,272 And you can call me Sandy. 277 00:11:52,630 --> 00:11:56,806 Mrs. Lawlor, we need to ask you some questions about your daughter's death. 278 00:11:58,336 --> 00:12:00,043 What? We're just following up. 279 00:12:00,304 --> 00:12:02,648 The report said you were up in Saratoga. 280 00:12:03,574 --> 00:12:05,019 I was at a conference. 281 00:12:05,076 --> 00:12:07,852 What about last Thursday, around 11:00 or 12:00 in the afternoon? 282 00:12:07,912 --> 00:12:09,516 Do you remember where you were? 283 00:12:12,850 --> 00:12:15,228 I was still asleep. I didn't get up till 1:00. 284 00:12:15,620 --> 00:12:17,065 It's my day off. 285 00:12:17,121 --> 00:12:18,532 Sleeping off a late night? 286 00:12:19,123 --> 00:12:20,227 (LAUGHS) 287 00:12:20,491 --> 00:12:22,164 All my nights are late. 288 00:12:23,327 --> 00:12:25,603 Did you try calling your ex-husband that day? 289 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:27,231 No, why? 290 00:12:27,298 --> 00:12:28,299 Somebody left him a message 291 00:12:28,733 --> 00:12:30,144 at his old number. 292 00:12:30,501 --> 00:12:32,708 Why would I call his old number? 293 00:12:33,071 --> 00:12:34,948 Last time I spoke to him was September 25th. 294 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,319 You remember the exact date? 295 00:12:39,610 --> 00:12:41,783 It would've been Dee-Dee's seventh birthday. 296 00:12:45,516 --> 00:12:47,792 I pulled the IUDs off Sandra Lawlor's phone. 297 00:12:47,852 --> 00:12:49,525 No calls to Kaminski, 298 00:12:49,587 --> 00:12:52,466 but she did make some late night calls to Roy's new number. 299 00:12:54,125 --> 00:12:55,900 Hmm. All calls were a minute long. 300 00:12:56,027 --> 00:12:57,028 BRISCOE: Yeah, just long enough 301 00:12:57,095 --> 00:12:58,540 to get the answering machine and hang up. 302 00:12:58,596 --> 00:13:00,405 Lawlor was screening his calls. 303 00:13:00,531 --> 00:13:03,341 Yeah, and she also made about a dozen one-minute late night calls 304 00:13:03,401 --> 00:13:04,471 to another number. 305 00:13:04,535 --> 00:13:08,642 Get this, this number is registered to an Elaine Anderton Lawlor. 306 00:13:08,906 --> 00:13:10,249 Another Mrs. Lawlor? 307 00:13:10,308 --> 00:13:11,582 This one's on Park Avenue. 308 00:13:11,642 --> 00:13:13,178 Could be a sister, or an aunt. 309 00:13:13,311 --> 00:13:15,814 Well, whoever it is, I pulled their IUDs, too. 310 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,360 The confession was made from their phone. 311 00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:23,290 ELAINE: Roy? 312 00:13:23,754 --> 00:13:25,563 We got divorced eight years ago. 313 00:13:25,623 --> 00:13:28,433 He moved to the West Side six, seven months ago. 314 00:13:28,493 --> 00:13:29,904 I haven't talked to him since. 315 00:13:29,961 --> 00:13:31,599 What about Sandra Lawlor? 316 00:13:31,929 --> 00:13:33,704 His second wife? 317 00:13:34,198 --> 00:13:38,237 That drunk calls at all hours, complaining about me, complaining about him. 318 00:13:38,870 --> 00:13:40,645 Is Roy in some kind of trouble? 319 00:13:40,772 --> 00:13:42,809 We're looking into the death of his daughter, Diane. 320 00:13:43,274 --> 00:13:45,276 Uh-huh. And? 321 00:13:45,343 --> 00:13:48,722 Someone left a message on an answering machine confessing to the arson. 322 00:13:48,946 --> 00:13:50,653 Well, what does that have to do with me? 323 00:13:51,048 --> 00:13:52,994 The call came from this apartment. 324 00:13:53,818 --> 00:13:55,195 That's impossible. 325 00:13:55,253 --> 00:13:57,096 Introduce me to your friends, Elaine. 326 00:13:57,155 --> 00:13:59,396 Daddy, these are police detectives. 327 00:13:59,824 --> 00:14:01,235 Oh, is there a problem? 328 00:14:01,292 --> 00:14:04,933 They're saying someone used our phone to confess to killing Roy's daughter. 329 00:14:05,129 --> 00:14:06,506 Well, someone's pulling your leg. 330 00:14:06,564 --> 00:14:08,407 Be that as it may, the phone records show the call... 331 00:14:08,466 --> 00:14:09,911 In my business, I only trust records 332 00:14:09,967 --> 00:14:11,913 that I can prove haven't been tampered with. 333 00:14:12,837 --> 00:14:15,545 Well, why would somebody want to tamper with your phone records? 334 00:14:15,606 --> 00:14:18,815 (CLICKING TONGUE) My daughter is no longer married to that drunk. 335 00:14:19,076 --> 00:14:23,024 If you have questions about the fire, talk to him. He set it. 336 00:14:23,881 --> 00:14:26,623 He destroyed one life, he nearly destroyed my daughter's. 337 00:14:26,817 --> 00:14:29,661 Now, this is my lawyer. You can talk to him to your heart's content. 338 00:14:30,354 --> 00:14:32,891 Now, if you'll please leave, I'd appreciate it. 339 00:14:33,824 --> 00:14:34,825 Thank you. 340 00:14:34,892 --> 00:14:35,927 Who works for the Andertons? 341 00:14:35,993 --> 00:14:40,135 Yeah, you got two housekeepers, Elsie Ruiz and Anne Ryan, 342 00:14:40,198 --> 00:14:44,112 the cook, Emma Hooper, the chauffeur, a secretary, 343 00:14:44,168 --> 00:14:45,613 people going in and out all the time. 344 00:14:45,736 --> 00:14:46,771 Ages? 345 00:14:46,837 --> 00:14:48,214 Ruiz is around 60. 346 00:14:48,406 --> 00:14:49,646 And Ryan? 347 00:14:49,707 --> 00:14:52,210 50s. Hooper, maybe 40, 45. 348 00:14:52,743 --> 00:14:54,120 Anybody else? 349 00:14:54,178 --> 00:14:56,522 No, just Mr. Anderton, his daughter and her kid. 350 00:14:56,581 --> 00:14:57,616 Her kid? 351 00:14:57,682 --> 00:14:58,717 Yeah, Terry. 352 00:14:58,783 --> 00:15:01,229 Him and his mother have lived with Mr. Anderton since her divorce. 353 00:15:01,285 --> 00:15:02,855 How old is Terry? 354 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,457 Teenager, like 14, 15. 355 00:15:06,023 --> 00:15:07,297 High-pitched voice? Yeah. 356 00:15:07,892 --> 00:15:09,769 Where is he now? He's at school. 357 00:15:09,827 --> 00:15:11,704 Their chauffeur brings him home around 4:00. 358 00:15:11,762 --> 00:15:13,070 All right, thanks. Sure. 359 00:15:13,631 --> 00:15:15,008 The kid? The kid. 360 00:15:15,066 --> 00:15:17,672 I doubt the Andertons are gonna volunteer him for a voice sample. 361 00:15:17,735 --> 00:15:19,772 Maybe he'll volunteer one himself. 362 00:15:25,009 --> 00:15:28,513 Hey, kid! We're looking for the Metropolitan Museum. 363 00:15:28,579 --> 00:15:30,957 Yeah, take a left right there, 364 00:15:31,015 --> 00:15:33,552 go three blocks over, and go straight up Fifth. 365 00:15:33,618 --> 00:15:36,121 Okay, right there, and then three blocks over? 366 00:15:36,187 --> 00:15:39,327 No, no, no. First left. Go to Fifth 367 00:15:39,390 --> 00:15:41,267 and go all the way up to the 80s. You can't miss it. 368 00:15:41,325 --> 00:15:43,498 Oh, thanks, nice talking to you. 369 00:15:47,298 --> 00:15:49,801 The kid's voice barely registers 50 decibels. 370 00:15:49,867 --> 00:15:53,542 Even with a filter, 60% match is what I can do. 371 00:15:54,038 --> 00:15:55,381 Thanks. 372 00:15:55,806 --> 00:15:58,912 60% is about 20% short of an arrest warrant. 373 00:15:59,110 --> 00:16:01,420 Let's take a look at the arson evidence. 374 00:16:01,979 --> 00:16:05,324 BRISCOE: Five cigarette butts, some newspapers, 375 00:16:05,483 --> 00:16:06,757 a couple of matchbooks. 376 00:16:06,817 --> 00:16:08,922 CURTIS: The Connaught Hotel, London. 377 00:16:08,986 --> 00:16:11,967 Yeah, my first wife wanted to stay there one night. 378 00:16:12,223 --> 00:16:13,998 I figured out we could afford one hour. 379 00:16:14,625 --> 00:16:16,502 That seem like Roy Lawlor's kind of place? 380 00:16:16,761 --> 00:16:20,607 Not the Roy Lawlor I saw, but it's right up Carl Anderton's alley. 381 00:16:21,966 --> 00:16:23,070 Where was it found? 382 00:16:24,502 --> 00:16:25,776 On the floor, in the hallway. 383 00:16:26,103 --> 00:16:27,639 Was it ever checked for prints? 384 00:16:27,705 --> 00:16:28,809 No. 385 00:16:30,875 --> 00:16:31,910 Huh. 386 00:16:31,976 --> 00:16:34,980 Geniuses. The cardboard has an acetate finish. 387 00:16:35,246 --> 00:16:38,989 It's not too damaged. They should have been able to lift a print. 388 00:16:39,083 --> 00:16:40,756 Maybe they still can. 389 00:16:42,119 --> 00:16:44,793 Latent found a print on the matchbook. It's not Roy's. 390 00:16:44,855 --> 00:16:45,856 Whose? 391 00:16:45,923 --> 00:16:48,927 Well, the size of the print looks like it could belong to a kid. 392 00:16:48,993 --> 00:16:50,267 What else do you got? 393 00:16:50,328 --> 00:16:52,501 A 60% voice match on the phone call. 394 00:16:52,563 --> 00:16:57,012 Only 60%? Carl Anderton sits on the Mayor's re-election committee. 395 00:16:57,068 --> 00:16:59,844 Hey, if he sat in a booth collecting tolls for the Lincoln Tunnel, 396 00:16:59,904 --> 00:17:01,747 we'd be arresting his grandson by now. 397 00:17:01,806 --> 00:17:03,410 What's that supposed to mean? 398 00:17:03,641 --> 00:17:04,847 You've got... BRISCOE: We've got a print, 399 00:17:04,909 --> 00:17:05,979 we've got a confession. 400 00:17:06,110 --> 00:17:07,145 Motive? 401 00:17:07,578 --> 00:17:09,558 It's the kid's half-sister. You don't have to be 402 00:17:09,613 --> 00:17:11,149 a genius to come up with something. 403 00:17:12,016 --> 00:17:13,154 Then come up with something. 404 00:17:15,052 --> 00:17:16,087 What about the father? 405 00:17:16,153 --> 00:17:17,689 He's had plenty of opportunities 406 00:17:17,755 --> 00:17:19,257 to implicate his son, but he hasn't. 407 00:17:19,356 --> 00:17:20,460 The little girl's mother? 408 00:17:20,524 --> 00:17:22,765 If she had anything to say about Terry and the fire, 409 00:17:22,827 --> 00:17:24,465 she would've said it by now. 410 00:17:24,528 --> 00:17:26,303 What about the people who live with the boy? 411 00:17:26,364 --> 00:17:28,901 I'm sure there's no shortage of household help at the Andertons'. 412 00:17:29,033 --> 00:17:32,344 Yeah. If they worked there two years ago, if we can find them, 413 00:17:32,403 --> 00:17:34,041 and if they'll talk to us. 414 00:17:34,672 --> 00:17:36,618 I have confidence in you. 415 00:17:41,278 --> 00:17:42,723 When I worked for Mr. Anderton, 416 00:17:42,780 --> 00:17:44,623 he had me sign a confidentiality agreement. 417 00:17:44,682 --> 00:17:46,320 Well, he can't stop you from talking to us. 418 00:17:46,384 --> 00:17:49,854 A little girl died in a fire we think Terry might've set. 419 00:17:49,954 --> 00:17:51,592 He makes all his employees sign one. 420 00:17:51,655 --> 00:17:53,225 This girl was five years old. 421 00:17:53,391 --> 00:17:55,029 Come on. You gonna wait for a subpoena? 422 00:17:55,092 --> 00:17:57,766 Sooner or later, you're gonna have to talk to us. 423 00:18:03,601 --> 00:18:05,774 After the fire, Terry stayed in his room, 424 00:18:05,836 --> 00:18:08,339 drawing pictures of that poor little girl. 425 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:10,045 CURTIS: Did he talk about her? 426 00:18:10,107 --> 00:18:11,279 Only to his father. 427 00:18:11,709 --> 00:18:13,552 Terry would call him in the middle of the night. 428 00:18:13,778 --> 00:18:16,258 I could hear him from the other room, talking on and on. 429 00:18:16,313 --> 00:18:17,417 BRISCOE: About what? 430 00:18:17,481 --> 00:18:19,859 Well, Terry could only see his father on the weekends. 431 00:18:19,917 --> 00:18:21,260 He blamed the little girl. 432 00:18:21,619 --> 00:18:23,292 What else did he say about her? 433 00:18:23,387 --> 00:18:25,958 He said she was trying to turn his father against him. 434 00:18:26,023 --> 00:18:28,469 A little girl. It was crazy. 435 00:18:28,826 --> 00:18:30,737 I thought maybe he was on drugs. 436 00:18:31,128 --> 00:18:33,540 After the fire, Terry stopped calling him. 437 00:18:33,597 --> 00:18:35,099 Did Terry use drugs? 438 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,736 I don't think so. 439 00:18:38,536 --> 00:18:40,982 Do you know where he was the night of the fire? 440 00:18:42,006 --> 00:18:43,451 I don't know. 441 00:18:44,842 --> 00:18:46,082 Two weeks after the fire, 442 00:18:46,143 --> 00:18:48,453 I checked through a bag of clothes for The Salvation Army. 443 00:18:48,713 --> 00:18:50,192 Why would you do that? 444 00:18:50,881 --> 00:18:54,055 Well, they throw things out. Lots of stuff is still good. 445 00:18:54,218 --> 00:18:55,663 So, you looked in the bag... 446 00:18:55,719 --> 00:18:57,062 (SCHOOL BELL RINGING) 447 00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:59,790 I found a shirt. 448 00:18:59,857 --> 00:19:00,858 CURTIS: And? 449 00:19:02,126 --> 00:19:03,662 You could still smell the smoke. 450 00:19:04,462 --> 00:19:05,873 Was it one of Terry's shirts? 451 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:11,538 WOMAN: Come on, sweetie. 452 00:19:15,272 --> 00:19:16,842 CURTIS: Terry Lawlor. 453 00:19:16,907 --> 00:19:18,386 What do you think you're doing? 454 00:19:18,509 --> 00:19:19,852 We have a warrant for your son, ma'am. 455 00:19:19,910 --> 00:19:21,355 Terry Lawlor, you're under arrest 456 00:19:21,412 --> 00:19:22,789 for the murder of Diane Lawlor. 457 00:19:22,847 --> 00:19:24,724 Mom... It's okay. It's a misunderstanding. 458 00:19:24,782 --> 00:19:26,090 You have the right to remain silent. 459 00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:27,390 You have the right to an attorney. 460 00:19:27,451 --> 00:19:28,896 You can talk to my lawyer about this. 461 00:19:28,953 --> 00:19:31,763 We'll be happy to talk to you and your lawyer down at the precinct. 462 00:19:31,822 --> 00:19:33,358 Getting in? 463 00:19:34,692 --> 00:19:36,296 You bastards. 464 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:43,574 Well, I don't like it, 465 00:19:43,634 --> 00:19:46,706 my grandson having to wear some sort of electronic monitoring device 466 00:19:46,770 --> 00:19:48,010 while he's out on bail. 467 00:19:48,072 --> 00:19:50,018 All due respect, if he weren't your grandson, 468 00:19:50,074 --> 00:19:51,951 he might not even be out on bail. 469 00:19:52,009 --> 00:19:56,151 With all due respect, Mr. McCoy, if he weren't my grandson, 470 00:19:56,547 --> 00:19:58,652 he wouldn't even have been charged with the crime. 471 00:19:58,716 --> 00:20:01,162 Mr. McCoy, Terry Lawlor's a good kid. 472 00:20:01,318 --> 00:20:04,458 Whose prints were found at an arson that killed another good kid. 473 00:20:04,688 --> 00:20:06,292 Well, that's not enough to prove that my grand... 474 00:20:06,357 --> 00:20:08,268 We have enough for a trial. 475 00:20:08,592 --> 00:20:10,196 Or could we talk about a plea? 476 00:20:10,361 --> 00:20:14,036 No, no. We're here to talk about dropping the charges. 477 00:20:14,398 --> 00:20:15,900 We'll talk about a plea with the boy's mother. 478 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,070 I'm his guardian. 479 00:20:17,368 --> 00:20:21,214 I make all decisions concerning him. You'll talk to me, Mr. McCoy. 480 00:20:21,405 --> 00:20:24,147 The arson squad closed this case two years ago. 481 00:20:24,608 --> 00:20:26,781 A drunk named Roy Lawlor did it. 482 00:20:26,877 --> 00:20:28,550 This case is not about Roy Lawlor. 483 00:20:28,612 --> 00:20:31,058 Nor, for that matter, is it about you, Mr. Anderton. 484 00:20:31,115 --> 00:20:33,095 Oh, it certainly is about me. 485 00:20:33,417 --> 00:20:35,954 No way you'll prove Terry set that fire. 486 00:20:36,020 --> 00:20:37,897 We have his confession on tape. 487 00:20:38,122 --> 00:20:39,601 Not for long. 488 00:20:41,725 --> 00:20:43,705 It's a motion for an audibility hearing. 489 00:20:43,761 --> 00:20:48,437 A 60% voice match is crap, and you know it. 490 00:20:54,805 --> 00:20:56,284 WEAVER: Six reports 491 00:20:56,340 --> 00:20:59,082 from three different nationally recognized experts 492 00:20:59,143 --> 00:21:03,819 comparing the tape to my client's voice and to five random samples. 493 00:21:04,048 --> 00:21:06,551 My wife's voice was a 50% match. 494 00:21:06,984 --> 00:21:09,157 We're not offering a conclusive match, Your Honor, 495 00:21:09,220 --> 00:21:11,257 but a probable one in light of the other evidence. 496 00:21:11,322 --> 00:21:14,303 Your Honor, the tape was altered in the lab. 497 00:21:14,725 --> 00:21:17,729 The call to the answering machine came from his client's home. 498 00:21:17,795 --> 00:21:19,433 That may be so, but whether or not 499 00:21:19,496 --> 00:21:21,407 my client made the call is the issue. 500 00:21:21,832 --> 00:21:23,971 JUDGE SIMONS: Mr. McCoy, the tape was enhanced, 501 00:21:24,034 --> 00:21:27,413 and produced a voice match disputed by experts. 502 00:21:28,005 --> 00:21:29,177 By defense experts. 503 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,049 I also heard your experts. 504 00:21:31,342 --> 00:21:32,650 I listened to the tapes 505 00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:36,089 and I can't tell that the two voices are from the same person. 506 00:21:36,380 --> 00:21:39,122 Given the inflammatory nature of the tape's content, 507 00:21:39,383 --> 00:21:41,021 I'm going to suppress it. 508 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,790 Carl Anderton's grandson. Carl's a good man. 509 00:21:47,291 --> 00:21:50,067 We worked on the Lindsay campaign together. 510 00:21:50,561 --> 00:21:52,234 We're not prosecuting him. 511 00:21:52,296 --> 00:21:55,175 The boy obviously feels repentant for what he did. 512 00:21:55,232 --> 00:21:57,041 He called his father, didn't he? 513 00:21:57,334 --> 00:21:58,472 You offered a plea? 514 00:21:58,535 --> 00:21:59,639 We got turned down. 515 00:21:59,703 --> 00:22:01,649 What kind of plea? We didn't get that far. 516 00:22:01,705 --> 00:22:03,742 He turned down the idea of a plea. 517 00:22:03,807 --> 00:22:05,753 Adam, why are we pussyfooting around? 518 00:22:05,876 --> 00:22:09,915 The man has a $4 billion war chest. Three years ago, 519 00:22:10,314 --> 00:22:14,456 the Atlantic-Star Cable merger, he took on the SEC and won. 520 00:22:15,252 --> 00:22:16,560 He's rich, he's powerful. 521 00:22:16,620 --> 00:22:18,725 Maybe we should let Robin Leach try the case. 522 00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:21,030 Carl Anderton brought down a governor, 523 00:22:21,558 --> 00:22:25,335 put senators in office, and now he's fighting for his grandson. 524 00:22:28,899 --> 00:22:30,310 I'm not kissing his ass, Adam. 525 00:22:30,367 --> 00:22:32,870 I want you to treat him with respect. 526 00:22:34,371 --> 00:22:36,578 He gets the same from me as everybody else. 527 00:22:38,042 --> 00:22:39,817 I don't care who he is. 528 00:22:42,379 --> 00:22:43,414 (DOOR OPENING) 529 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,426 Bobby Kennedy sat right in that chair over there, 530 00:22:45,482 --> 00:22:46,722 smoking Monte Cruise, 531 00:22:47,284 --> 00:22:49,855 right after we signed the Bedford-Stuyvesant Restoration Agreement. 532 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,558 Remember? Yeah. 533 00:22:51,822 --> 00:22:52,857 You were sitting at... 534 00:22:52,923 --> 00:22:54,334 I stood right over there. 535 00:22:56,093 --> 00:22:59,563 Yeah. That's right. You want something, Adam? 536 00:22:59,630 --> 00:23:01,234 No, thank you. 537 00:23:04,435 --> 00:23:07,006 You know why I'm here. 538 00:23:07,137 --> 00:23:09,743 We've been through some rough times together, Carl. 539 00:23:10,874 --> 00:23:12,478 This is gonna be another one. 540 00:23:12,843 --> 00:23:14,948 It's just gonna end up a bloody mess. 541 00:23:15,713 --> 00:23:18,592 Adam, if you wanted to, you could make it go away. 542 00:23:19,216 --> 00:23:21,526 (SIGHING) Your grandson confessed. 543 00:23:21,585 --> 00:23:22,962 No, that was no confession. 544 00:23:23,387 --> 00:23:25,731 Terry was just trying to make his father feel better. 545 00:23:26,056 --> 00:23:27,899 The boy has a good heart. 546 00:23:28,492 --> 00:23:33,202 There's other evidence. A plea bargain is the best way to go. 547 00:23:36,033 --> 00:23:39,207 When is your term up? Is it next spring, what? 548 00:23:41,338 --> 00:23:42,408 What are you implying? 549 00:23:42,573 --> 00:23:44,484 Don't misunderstand me. 550 00:23:46,110 --> 00:23:47,646 We go back a long way. 551 00:23:50,014 --> 00:23:51,994 It was a different city. 552 00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:56,491 But you know, the important things, loyalty and friendship, 553 00:23:57,087 --> 00:23:58,828 they haven't changed. 554 00:23:59,022 --> 00:24:00,626 No, they haven't. 555 00:24:01,492 --> 00:24:04,166 He's my only grandson, Adam, 556 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:08,767 and you were at his mother's wedding. 557 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:13,141 I've got pictures of you holding the boy when he was a baby. 558 00:24:13,237 --> 00:24:16,241 I'm sorry, Carl. There's a plea offer on the table. 559 00:24:16,607 --> 00:24:19,588 Take it, don't take it, it's up to you. 560 00:24:19,643 --> 00:24:24,592 Adam, you deny me this personal request? 561 00:24:28,385 --> 00:24:30,422 I can't do this, my friend. 562 00:24:32,856 --> 00:24:34,096 I won't. 563 00:24:38,495 --> 00:24:39,667 (INHALES DEEPLY) 564 00:24:40,697 --> 00:24:44,736 A fingerprint on an old matchbook and a smelly shirt, 565 00:24:46,737 --> 00:24:48,910 not the strongest case I've ever taken to trial. 566 00:24:48,972 --> 00:24:52,249 It might help if we could tell a jury what turned Terry into an arsonist. 567 00:24:53,310 --> 00:24:56,416 He was angry at his father. That's an emotion I can understand. 568 00:24:57,514 --> 00:24:59,118 Something pushed him over the edge. 569 00:25:00,951 --> 00:25:04,091 The nanny suspected drugs. It'd be nice to be able to prove it. 570 00:25:04,221 --> 00:25:06,599 I checked the school records, medical records, insurance, 571 00:25:06,657 --> 00:25:08,762 there's no sign he ever had a drug problem. 572 00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:11,037 What about friends? 573 00:25:11,161 --> 00:25:12,572 I haven't found any. 574 00:25:12,996 --> 00:25:15,806 And I can't get anybody at his school to say anything bad about him. 575 00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:18,339 They're afraid of losing a future endowment. 576 00:25:20,170 --> 00:25:21,979 What about other schools the boy attended? 577 00:25:22,172 --> 00:25:25,984 Selwyn Academy. The prep he was at when the fire occurred. 578 00:25:26,243 --> 00:25:27,449 They won't talk to me either. 579 00:25:28,412 --> 00:25:29,550 That their yearbook? 580 00:25:29,613 --> 00:25:30,614 Mmm-hmm. 581 00:25:35,085 --> 00:25:37,326 Looks pretty harmless in a jacket and tie. 582 00:25:37,387 --> 00:25:38,730 You all do. 583 00:25:39,089 --> 00:25:41,763 Yeah. Oh, look, here. 584 00:25:42,893 --> 00:25:44,133 They had a school counselor. 585 00:25:45,095 --> 00:25:47,405 If the kid was doing drugs, maybe she'll know about it. 586 00:25:51,468 --> 00:25:53,175 Drugs weren't his problem. 587 00:25:53,237 --> 00:25:55,444 Maybe he would've been better off if they were. 588 00:25:55,506 --> 00:25:56,644 What was his problem? 589 00:25:56,707 --> 00:25:57,777 His real problem? 590 00:25:58,308 --> 00:25:59,787 I never got the chance to find out. 591 00:26:00,511 --> 00:26:03,492 But his behavior in school was something else. 592 00:26:03,981 --> 00:26:04,982 A handful? 593 00:26:05,282 --> 00:26:06,625 Depending on when you caught him. 594 00:26:06,683 --> 00:26:08,924 He could be a charmer one week, 595 00:26:08,986 --> 00:26:11,159 and then an absolute monster the next. 596 00:26:11,221 --> 00:26:14,532 He'd get in these funks, and I could hardly get a word out of him. 597 00:26:15,125 --> 00:26:17,537 Given his home life, wouldn't you expect him to be moody? 598 00:26:17,961 --> 00:26:19,872 It wasn't about that. 599 00:26:19,930 --> 00:26:23,571 He decided to run for Student President of the middle school. 600 00:26:24,134 --> 00:26:27,877 He had a very well-articulated platform, posters, the whole bit. 601 00:26:28,739 --> 00:26:30,650 A week before the election, he withdrew. 602 00:26:31,575 --> 00:26:34,556 I asked him why. He went into a diatribe 603 00:26:34,611 --> 00:26:38,650 about the other candidate sabotaging his campaign, planting spies. 604 00:26:39,082 --> 00:26:40,254 Was it true? 605 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,891 He said he could hear them whispering through the walls. 606 00:26:50,627 --> 00:26:54,268 Paranoia, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder... 607 00:26:55,065 --> 00:26:56,339 You expect me to make a diagnosis 608 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,380 based on the observations of an amateur? 609 00:26:58,435 --> 00:27:00,642 Yeah. You got a problem with that? 610 00:27:02,806 --> 00:27:07,880 Okay. He can't relate to others, has low tolerance for frustration, 611 00:27:07,945 --> 00:27:09,754 he's unpredictable... 612 00:27:10,681 --> 00:27:11,989 So far, that's my kid. 613 00:27:13,383 --> 00:27:16,728 Now, the fear and suspicion, the whispering through the walls, 614 00:27:17,254 --> 00:27:19,564 sounds like he's in the early stages of bipolar disorder. 615 00:27:20,223 --> 00:27:21,531 Bipolar disorder. 616 00:27:21,591 --> 00:27:24,333 Alternating cycles of depression and mania. 617 00:27:25,095 --> 00:27:26,938 Periods of feeling better than normal, 618 00:27:26,997 --> 00:27:29,341 brighter and more energetic and charming, 619 00:27:29,666 --> 00:27:31,907 hyper-sexuality and poor judgment. 620 00:27:32,336 --> 00:27:35,715 Then, suddenly irritability, aggression, 621 00:27:36,139 --> 00:27:39,814 delusions of persecution, hearing voices. 622 00:27:40,477 --> 00:27:41,751 That's what's going on with this kid? 623 00:27:41,812 --> 00:27:44,486 It's a third-hand diagnosis. Take it for what it's worth. 624 00:27:45,415 --> 00:27:47,486 But it might explain why the kid's a fire bug. 625 00:27:49,419 --> 00:27:51,262 If he's crazy, why isn't his lawyer 626 00:27:51,321 --> 00:27:53,301 going for an insanity defense? 627 00:27:57,994 --> 00:27:59,132 Good question. 628 00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:05,546 Bipolar disorder? 629 00:28:05,602 --> 00:28:08,412 I think you need your head examined, Mr. McCoy. 630 00:28:08,805 --> 00:28:10,944 We didn't just pull this out of thin air. 631 00:28:11,074 --> 00:28:13,884 We talked to a former school counselor, to his friends... 632 00:28:13,977 --> 00:28:16,685 People with impeccable credentials in the field of psychiatry. 633 00:28:16,747 --> 00:28:19,819 The behavior they observed can't be explained any other way. 634 00:28:19,883 --> 00:28:24,161 Mr. Anderton, I don't have any interest in prosecuting your grandson 635 00:28:24,221 --> 00:28:25,723 if he has a mental disease. 636 00:28:25,789 --> 00:28:27,826 There is nothing wrong with Terry. 637 00:28:27,891 --> 00:28:30,064 Then, you won't mind if our psychiatrist examines him. 638 00:28:30,127 --> 00:28:32,300 WEAVER: So you can gather evidence against him? 639 00:28:32,562 --> 00:28:33,597 I don't think so. 640 00:28:33,663 --> 00:28:35,438 JACK: It would be off the record. You have nothing to lose. 641 00:28:35,499 --> 00:28:38,537 Mr. Anderton, your grandson needs treatment, not prison. 642 00:28:38,602 --> 00:28:42,175 The way your case is going, he doesn't have to worry about prison. 643 00:28:42,472 --> 00:28:45,942 Sir, your grandson killed that little girl. 644 00:28:46,977 --> 00:28:50,515 Either in prison or in a psychiatric hospital, he's going to answer for it. 645 00:28:50,747 --> 00:28:55,696 At the end of this, Mr. McCoy, my grandson is coming home with me. 646 00:29:02,526 --> 00:29:07,100 We'll see what a judge has to say about that. I'm moving for a 730 exam. 647 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,880 Your Honor, I've brought this motion in the interest of justice. 648 00:29:13,203 --> 00:29:15,615 Aren't the defendant's best interests served by his counsel? 649 00:29:15,672 --> 00:29:18,016 Unless counsel refuses to acknowledge the obvious. 650 00:29:18,074 --> 00:29:19,212 What obvious? 651 00:29:19,276 --> 00:29:21,847 Your Honor, the defendant hasn't been howling at the moon 652 00:29:21,912 --> 00:29:23,255 or ripping his hair out. 653 00:29:23,313 --> 00:29:24,348 He's not crazy. 654 00:29:24,414 --> 00:29:27,054 If there's nothing wrong with his client, then a 730 exam can't... 655 00:29:27,117 --> 00:29:31,088 A pointless proceeding that can only be to my client's detriment. 656 00:29:31,154 --> 00:29:34,624 The prosecutors can question him in violation of his rights. 657 00:29:34,691 --> 00:29:38,400 Mr. McCoy, if his client's mental condition is so obvious, 658 00:29:38,628 --> 00:29:41,199 then it should be apparent if I talk to him. 659 00:29:41,498 --> 00:29:45,344 I'll question him in chambers and decide if your motion has merit. 660 00:29:45,435 --> 00:29:47,278 I'd like our psychiatrist to observe. 661 00:29:47,337 --> 00:29:48,475 Absolutely not. 662 00:29:48,705 --> 00:29:51,413 I'll decide what goes on in my chambers, Mr. Weaver. 663 00:29:51,775 --> 00:29:56,383 Mr. McCoy's psychiatrist can observe, but I'll be the one asking the questions. 664 00:29:56,446 --> 00:29:57,857 BAILIFF: The court is back in session. 665 00:29:58,048 --> 00:29:59,049 Judge Jane... 666 00:29:59,116 --> 00:30:00,288 JUDGE SIMONS: So you understand 667 00:30:00,350 --> 00:30:02,830 everything that's happened in this case so far? 668 00:30:02,886 --> 00:30:04,126 Yes, ma'am. 669 00:30:04,521 --> 00:30:06,228 And how do you feel about all this? 670 00:30:07,457 --> 00:30:08,561 Scared. 671 00:30:09,259 --> 00:30:13,002 Understandable. And how is it for you, at home? 672 00:30:13,263 --> 00:30:15,106 Well, I've been playing a lot of Nintendo. 673 00:30:15,165 --> 00:30:17,839 I can't really rollerblade with this thing on. 674 00:30:22,472 --> 00:30:26,284 Thank you for coming in. You can wait for Mr. Weaver outside. 675 00:30:29,579 --> 00:30:30,887 (DOOR OPENING) 676 00:30:33,183 --> 00:30:34,218 (DOOR CLOSING) 677 00:30:34,284 --> 00:30:36,696 He seems like a normal teenager to me. 678 00:30:36,753 --> 00:30:38,664 With all due respect, Your Honor, 679 00:30:38,722 --> 00:30:40,565 I would have asked different questions. 680 00:30:40,957 --> 00:30:43,904 That's why you were allowed here only as an observer. 681 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,530 Your Honor, Dr. Skoda's point is... 682 00:30:45,595 --> 00:30:48,098 Mr. McCoy, I don't care what his point is. 683 00:30:49,166 --> 00:30:52,204 I'm satisfied that the defendant is of sound mind. 684 00:30:52,436 --> 00:30:55,849 Your motion for a 730 exam is denied. 685 00:30:57,474 --> 00:30:59,078 DR. SKODA: I'm not a mind reader, Jack. 686 00:30:59,142 --> 00:31:01,418 "Hi, how are you?" is not a diagnostic question. 687 00:31:01,478 --> 00:31:02,889 You can't tell me anything? 688 00:31:03,547 --> 00:31:06,721 He likes rollerblading and Nintendo. So do I. 689 00:31:07,217 --> 00:31:09,424 I don't get it. They should've jumped at a chance for the exam. 690 00:31:09,486 --> 00:31:10,988 They think they're going to win. 691 00:31:11,188 --> 00:31:14,397 The way things are going, they're probably right. So now what? 692 00:31:14,524 --> 00:31:15,867 We go to trial. 693 00:31:16,626 --> 00:31:19,334 If they won't use his mental state to get him acquitted, fine, 694 00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:23,744 we'll use it to convict him. He set the fire because he's deluded. 695 00:31:24,201 --> 00:31:26,738 If he has a mental disease, he doesn't belong in prison, Jack. 696 00:31:27,137 --> 00:31:28,309 Maybe it won't come down to that. 697 00:31:28,371 --> 00:31:29,509 And what if it does? 698 00:31:30,607 --> 00:31:32,211 That's what they pay us for. 699 00:31:36,546 --> 00:31:41,518 After Dee-Dee was born, Terry became aggressive with her. 700 00:31:42,486 --> 00:31:43,897 JACK: In what way? 701 00:31:44,087 --> 00:31:46,328 Squeezing her too hard, for one thing. 702 00:31:46,423 --> 00:31:48,232 Did you discuss this with your husband? 703 00:31:49,326 --> 00:31:52,500 I told Roy I didn't want Terry around her. 704 00:31:52,629 --> 00:31:55,803 I was afraid he might do something. 705 00:31:57,134 --> 00:31:59,774 We cut his visits to just weekends, when I could be there. 706 00:31:59,836 --> 00:32:02,077 Why didn't you tell the police any of this before? 707 00:32:02,305 --> 00:32:05,684 I didn't think it mattered. Roy said the fire was his fault. 708 00:32:06,610 --> 00:32:08,021 Thank you. Nothing further. 709 00:32:10,347 --> 00:32:12,293 Mrs. Lawlor, were there any witnesses, 710 00:32:12,349 --> 00:32:15,296 other than yourself, who saw Terry hug Diane? 711 00:32:16,019 --> 00:32:18,090 (SCOFFS) No. 712 00:32:19,022 --> 00:32:20,057 Do you drink? 713 00:32:20,123 --> 00:32:21,158 Objection. Relevance. 714 00:32:21,591 --> 00:32:23,002 Goes to credibility. 715 00:32:23,727 --> 00:32:26,139 Overruled. Answer the question. 716 00:32:26,529 --> 00:32:28,509 I have a few drinks every day. 717 00:32:28,732 --> 00:32:32,373 And isn't it true that on two occasions you and your husband 718 00:32:32,435 --> 00:32:36,110 got into a fight so severe neighbors had to call the police? 719 00:32:36,172 --> 00:32:37,173 Yes, but... 720 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,154 That this was an example of the kind of home you and Roy Lawlor kept, 721 00:32:41,211 --> 00:32:44,055 and it was Terry's mother and grandfather... 722 00:32:44,114 --> 00:32:45,149 JACK: Objection. 723 00:32:45,215 --> 00:32:46,853 ...who curtailed Terry's visits, not you, 724 00:32:46,917 --> 00:32:48,919 because they feared for his safety? 725 00:32:48,985 --> 00:32:50,157 He's testifying, Your Honor. 726 00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:51,290 Sustained. 727 00:32:51,621 --> 00:32:54,761 The jury will disregard Mr. Weaver's last remark. 728 00:32:55,158 --> 00:32:56,967 WEAVER: No further questions. 729 00:32:59,029 --> 00:33:02,533 On certain occasions Terry told me he thought he was being persecuted. 730 00:33:03,133 --> 00:33:05,374 For example, toward the end of the school year, 731 00:33:05,435 --> 00:33:08,712 Terry was convinced that the other students were conspiring against him. 732 00:33:08,772 --> 00:33:10,080 Did he tell you how he knew this? 733 00:33:10,173 --> 00:33:11,914 Objection. Hearsay. 734 00:33:12,309 --> 00:33:14,983 The testimony isn't offered to prove the truth of the statement, 735 00:33:15,545 --> 00:33:18,151 but to demonstrate the defendant's state of mind at the time. 736 00:33:18,648 --> 00:33:21,151 JUDGE SIMONS: Overruled. The witness will answer. 737 00:33:21,551 --> 00:33:23,360 GAREY: He said he could hear the other students... 738 00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:25,866 Your Honor, may we approach the bench? 739 00:33:30,427 --> 00:33:32,566 This witness is a high school counselor. 740 00:33:32,896 --> 00:33:35,900 She's not accredited by any graduate school of psychiatry 741 00:33:35,966 --> 00:33:37,172 or psychology... 742 00:33:37,233 --> 00:33:40,237 She isn't being asked to offer a professional diagnosis, 743 00:33:40,303 --> 00:33:43,978 but only to describe observed behavior, which any lay person can do. 744 00:33:44,274 --> 00:33:45,309 He's right, Mr. Weaver. 745 00:33:46,543 --> 00:33:49,615 Your Honor, in her capacity as school counselor, 746 00:33:49,679 --> 00:33:52,751 anything she was told by my client falls under patient privilege. 747 00:33:52,816 --> 00:33:54,193 He can't have it both ways. 748 00:33:54,417 --> 00:33:57,193 Either she's a qualified mental health practitioner or she isn't. 749 00:33:57,687 --> 00:34:00,634 You really can't, Mr. Weaver. Now step back. 750 00:34:02,025 --> 00:34:05,370 Ms. Garey, please answer Mr. McCoy's question. 751 00:34:06,963 --> 00:34:08,704 GAREY: He told me he could hear the other students 752 00:34:08,765 --> 00:34:10,745 whispering about him through the walls. 753 00:34:11,301 --> 00:34:14,475 What, if any, other behavior did you notice around this time? 754 00:34:14,771 --> 00:34:16,614 Your Honor, we request a recess. 755 00:34:16,673 --> 00:34:18,118 For what purpose? 756 00:34:18,441 --> 00:34:20,387 To consult with the District Attorney. 757 00:34:20,677 --> 00:34:21,678 Mr. McCoy? 758 00:34:21,745 --> 00:34:22,746 We have no objection. 759 00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:25,052 Very well. Court is now in recess. 760 00:34:25,115 --> 00:34:27,220 We will reconvene at 10:00 a.m. tomorrow. 761 00:34:27,650 --> 00:34:28,788 (GAVEL POUNDS) 762 00:34:29,319 --> 00:34:32,027 We're prepared to plead to second degree manslaughter. 763 00:34:32,756 --> 00:34:35,930 That fire was an accident. There was no premeditation. 764 00:34:36,126 --> 00:34:38,902 And Terry certainly didn't mean to hurt anyone. 765 00:34:39,162 --> 00:34:40,368 You'd let him go to jail? 766 00:34:40,497 --> 00:34:43,774 We're talking minimum time in a juvenile facility. 767 00:34:44,467 --> 00:34:46,913 Prison is prison. 768 00:34:47,871 --> 00:34:50,613 Mr. Anderton, do you really think that's where your grandson belongs? 769 00:34:50,673 --> 00:34:51,947 That's where you want to send him. 770 00:34:52,042 --> 00:34:55,080 You heard the testimony. Your grandson needs psychiatric help. 771 00:34:55,311 --> 00:34:56,483 Absolutely not! 772 00:34:56,546 --> 00:34:58,116 I don't understand you, Mr. Anderton. 773 00:34:58,181 --> 00:34:59,990 We're offering him... What? 774 00:35:00,050 --> 00:35:01,723 The chance to stay in a loony bin 775 00:35:01,785 --> 00:35:04,322 till some state employee decides he can leave? 776 00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:10,636 I know what this is really all about, Mr. McCoy. 777 00:35:12,295 --> 00:35:15,401 You're going after my grandson to embarrass me. 778 00:35:15,932 --> 00:35:19,038 Yes! Personally, professionally, publicly. 779 00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:27,920 I know your type. You think that to bring down a man 780 00:35:27,977 --> 00:35:30,719 who's accomplished something in life, it builds you up. 781 00:35:31,548 --> 00:35:33,550 You're not gonna get away with it. 782 00:35:33,616 --> 00:35:35,596 I put a fair offer on the table. 783 00:35:36,319 --> 00:35:40,768 You turn it down, I'll go public and I'll expose you 784 00:35:40,824 --> 00:35:45,398 for the vindictive, envious little man you really are. 785 00:35:48,598 --> 00:35:50,805 FEMALE REPORTER: Mr. Anderton? Can you give us a statement? 786 00:35:50,867 --> 00:35:53,575 MALE REPORTER: What were you talking to the D.A. about, Mr. Anderton? 787 00:35:53,937 --> 00:35:56,213 Tell Mr. Anderton we'll think about his offer. 788 00:35:56,373 --> 00:35:58,182 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 789 00:36:00,944 --> 00:36:03,515 I don't get it. Is he waiting for a better offer? 790 00:36:03,913 --> 00:36:05,824 Is he setting us up for an appeal? 791 00:36:06,649 --> 00:36:07,753 What did Skoda say? 792 00:36:08,385 --> 00:36:12,527 Charming one minute, aggressive and paranoid the next. Sound familiar? 793 00:36:13,790 --> 00:36:17,169 Carl Anderton. Like grandfather, like grandson? 794 00:36:18,895 --> 00:36:21,136 Maybe that's the conclusion he's afraid of. 795 00:36:21,197 --> 00:36:23,404 Get everything you can on him. 796 00:36:25,802 --> 00:36:29,306 In 1951, he was taken out of Andover in the middle of the school year. 797 00:36:30,573 --> 00:36:32,052 Got homesick. 798 00:36:32,108 --> 00:36:34,179 He finished out the rest of the year at Austen Riggs, 799 00:36:34,244 --> 00:36:35,951 the Boy's Town of the rich and famous. 800 00:36:36,279 --> 00:36:39,692 He spent the next two years at home with tutors. 801 00:36:40,917 --> 00:36:42,954 Carl was always high-spirited. 802 00:36:43,353 --> 00:36:45,026 This wasn't high spirits, Adam. 803 00:36:45,388 --> 00:36:47,925 I've tracked his press clippings over the last 30 years. 804 00:36:47,991 --> 00:36:49,265 There are unexplained absences, 805 00:36:49,325 --> 00:36:50,861 or he checked himself into a hospital, 806 00:36:50,927 --> 00:36:52,964 suffering from exhaustion. 807 00:36:53,029 --> 00:36:54,133 Next. 808 00:36:54,564 --> 00:36:57,875 Last April, he made a surprise take-over bid for Commonwealth Airlines. 809 00:36:57,934 --> 00:36:59,504 One week later, he withdrew the bid 810 00:36:59,569 --> 00:37:02,675 and accused the FAA and the stockholders of conspiring against him. 811 00:37:03,273 --> 00:37:05,480 It's classic manic-depressive behavior. 812 00:37:06,242 --> 00:37:10,281 Doesn't make sense. Runs a Fortune 500 company. 813 00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:11,518 So did Howard Hughes. 814 00:37:11,581 --> 00:37:13,458 He could be fully functional, if he's medicated. 815 00:37:14,817 --> 00:37:16,353 I don't want you to humiliate him. 816 00:37:16,786 --> 00:37:20,461 He's standing between his own grandson and an appropriate disposition. 817 00:37:21,191 --> 00:37:23,034 I want him to get out of the way. 818 00:37:25,862 --> 00:37:28,866 Maybe his daughter can talk some sense into him. 819 00:37:30,733 --> 00:37:32,406 My father loves my son. 820 00:37:32,702 --> 00:37:35,148 If Terry were sick, don't you think he'd get him help? 821 00:37:35,438 --> 00:37:37,918 Unless he's afraid it'd trace back to him. 822 00:37:38,007 --> 00:37:39,918 Trace what? The mental illness. 823 00:37:40,343 --> 00:37:43,017 I told you, my father's in perfect mental health. 824 00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,184 He's a public figure. People would've noticed. 825 00:37:45,248 --> 00:37:46,818 Not if he's taking medication. 826 00:37:47,083 --> 00:37:49,029 JACK: And maybe they have noticed, Mrs. Lawlor. 827 00:37:49,552 --> 00:37:51,862 Look at how the media describes him. 828 00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:55,232 Colorful, eccentric, mercurial, unpredictable. 829 00:37:55,725 --> 00:37:59,366 This is not a smear. To a psychiatrist it's code for unstable. 830 00:37:59,729 --> 00:38:02,232 See for yourself. Check his medicine cabinet. 831 00:38:02,298 --> 00:38:05,677 If he's taking Tegretol, Risperdal, valproic acid, lithium... 832 00:38:06,569 --> 00:38:08,879 My father only takes medication to help him sleep, 833 00:38:08,938 --> 00:38:10,383 to calm him down. 834 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,783 His days are very stressful. 835 00:38:11,875 --> 00:38:14,685 Or to control his unpredictable mood swings. 836 00:38:15,345 --> 00:38:17,586 Look, did your father tell you 837 00:38:17,647 --> 00:38:19,524 that he offered to let Terry plead 838 00:38:19,582 --> 00:38:21,425 to Manslaughter in the Second Degree? 839 00:38:22,218 --> 00:38:25,290 Our offer is, he pleads not guilty by reason of mental disease, 840 00:38:25,355 --> 00:38:28,029 he goes to a psychiatric facility instead of to prison. 841 00:38:33,696 --> 00:38:36,643 My father is Terry's guardian. 842 00:38:37,534 --> 00:38:39,605 I don't have any authority. I can't... 843 00:38:44,774 --> 00:38:46,344 I don't know what to do. 844 00:38:55,218 --> 00:38:56,561 What are you doing here? 845 00:38:56,753 --> 00:38:58,255 Adam, what is this, some kind of... 846 00:38:58,354 --> 00:39:02,325 I invited her, on the off-chance that someone in your family 847 00:39:02,392 --> 00:39:04,565 would act in your grandson's best interests. 848 00:39:04,861 --> 00:39:05,965 What's that supposed to mean? 849 00:39:06,029 --> 00:39:09,602 Mr. Anderton, let's just find out what McCoy decided. 850 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,440 You thought about our offer? 851 00:39:12,969 --> 00:39:14,039 (DOOR CLOSING) 852 00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:17,575 Man two? Out of the question. 853 00:39:18,541 --> 00:39:23,149 The choice is man one or not guilty by reason of mental disease. 854 00:39:23,246 --> 00:39:24,554 Back to that? 855 00:39:25,014 --> 00:39:27,016 When are you going to get it through your thick skull. 856 00:39:27,083 --> 00:39:28,721 My grandson doesn't belong in a hospital. 857 00:39:28,818 --> 00:39:31,025 Daddy, he does need help. 858 00:39:31,754 --> 00:39:33,233 You wait outside until we're through. 859 00:39:33,690 --> 00:39:35,033 She's staying. 860 00:39:35,325 --> 00:39:36,804 Outside. ELAINE: No. 861 00:39:40,864 --> 00:39:42,935 It doesn't matter what she thinks. I'm his guardian. 862 00:39:42,999 --> 00:39:45,240 JACK: That can change, Mr. Anderton. 863 00:39:46,102 --> 00:39:47,945 You've got to agree to this, Carl. 864 00:39:48,004 --> 00:39:50,348 We're gonna petition to have her appointed 865 00:39:50,406 --> 00:39:53,148 Guardian ad Litem of your grandson. 866 00:39:53,543 --> 00:39:54,749 What? On what basis? 867 00:39:55,245 --> 00:39:56,485 Mental competency. 868 00:39:56,646 --> 00:39:57,681 Whose? 869 00:39:59,482 --> 00:40:00,586 Yours. 870 00:40:02,752 --> 00:40:05,358 We know about your stay at Austen Riggs, 871 00:40:05,855 --> 00:40:07,926 the private tutors, hospitals... 872 00:40:08,758 --> 00:40:10,795 It was exhaustion. That's all. 873 00:40:10,860 --> 00:40:14,535 Once we start proceedings, issue subpoenas, everyone'll know. 874 00:40:15,832 --> 00:40:17,038 I'm sorry, Carl. 875 00:40:18,401 --> 00:40:20,438 You trust these people over me? 876 00:40:21,471 --> 00:40:22,643 Huh? 877 00:40:24,574 --> 00:40:27,680 Oh, they finally got to you, didn't they, Adam? 878 00:40:27,744 --> 00:40:31,157 After all these years, you finally caved, huh? 879 00:40:32,715 --> 00:40:37,221 Ah, this thing, this accusation... 880 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,731 Don't you see they've used it before, 881 00:40:38,788 --> 00:40:40,165 the newspapers, the networks... 882 00:40:40,356 --> 00:40:44,202 You've seen the hints, the way Commonwealth tried to smear me. 883 00:40:45,228 --> 00:40:47,538 You know why? Because they were always afraid of me. 884 00:40:48,798 --> 00:40:50,072 'Cause of my energy. 885 00:40:51,968 --> 00:40:54,312 It's the way I got things done! 886 00:40:55,571 --> 00:41:00,680 You let them do this, it will never stop. 887 00:41:01,611 --> 00:41:07,289 Once it starts... Starts! It never stops. 888 00:41:08,418 --> 00:41:09,897 And then... It's okay. 889 00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:11,723 And then... It's okay, Daddy. 890 00:41:12,922 --> 00:41:14,026 Adam, 891 00:41:15,825 --> 00:41:19,898 Adam, please, please, please, don't let them do this to me. Please. 892 00:41:23,433 --> 00:41:24,639 Please. 893 00:41:31,307 --> 00:41:33,253 I remember thinking that my step-sister 894 00:41:33,309 --> 00:41:34,913 had some kind of 895 00:41:36,112 --> 00:41:37,614 a demon inside her. 896 00:41:38,581 --> 00:41:39,821 JUDGE SIMONS: A demon? 897 00:41:42,085 --> 00:41:44,224 It had to do with why my dad was an alcoholic. 898 00:41:46,155 --> 00:41:51,867 I had this idea that if I built a fire, I could scare the demon away. 899 00:41:53,963 --> 00:42:00,380 I read in some book that Native Americans use fire to purify the innocent. 900 00:42:02,405 --> 00:42:04,476 I just wanted my dad to stop drinking. 901 00:42:07,176 --> 00:42:09,588 I wanted that more than anything. 902 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,817 Why didn't you tell anyone you set the fire? 903 00:42:15,651 --> 00:42:16,823 I did. 904 00:42:18,021 --> 00:42:19,898 I told my grandfather when I got home. 905 00:42:22,191 --> 00:42:24,193 He told me not to talk about it. 906 00:42:25,761 --> 00:42:28,207 That he'd make sure that I wouldn't get in trouble. 907 00:42:30,032 --> 00:42:31,375 JUDGE SIMONS: Mr. McCoy? 908 00:42:31,434 --> 00:42:32,606 (CLEARING THROAT) 909 00:42:34,170 --> 00:42:35,649 The People are satisfied, Your Honor. 910 00:42:36,305 --> 00:42:37,716 Very well. 911 00:42:39,075 --> 00:42:45,117 Terence Lawlor, you're hereby remanded to a secure facility 912 00:42:46,282 --> 00:42:50,094 to be designated by the Commissioner of the Department of Mental Hygiene 913 00:42:50,586 --> 00:42:53,760 until such time as a panel of doctors has determined 914 00:42:53,856 --> 00:42:57,497 you're no longer a danger to yourself or to society. 915 00:42:57,894 --> 00:42:58,964 We're adjourned. 916 00:42:59,028 --> 00:43:00,166 (GAVEL POUNDS) 917 00:43:23,819 --> 00:43:25,264 Sorry about your friend. 918 00:43:26,055 --> 00:43:30,629 Save your sympathy. We haven't heard the last of him. 919 00:43:32,094 --> 00:43:34,267 Living with that secret all these years, 920 00:43:34,330 --> 00:43:36,469 it must have taken enormous will power. 921 00:43:36,733 --> 00:43:38,838 Yeah. Carl always had that. 922 00:43:39,201 --> 00:43:41,374 Whenever he did something bold, 923 00:43:41,437 --> 00:43:44,145 the Lindsay campaign, take-over bids, 924 00:43:45,408 --> 00:43:51,415 the op-ed pundits would call him crazy, and Carl would just smile. 925 00:43:56,185 --> 00:43:57,528 (CHUCKLES) 926 00:43:57,578 --> 00:44:02,128 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 71940

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