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Police
are warning of a new toxic.
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Drug, a drug that can kill.
Within. Seconds.
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Emergency rooms are seeing
more overdoses than ever before.
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Do you know where it comes from?
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No. This is a brand.
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They're searching rooftops
and helicopters and abandoned
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Buildings on foot for people
who may have taken the drug.
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I have never seen up
to that point in my career.
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This type of crisis.
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The officials worried it is
a new synthetic super drug.
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My analysis concluded
that it was fentanyl.
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Fentanyl.
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Fentanyl. Fentanyl. Fentanyl.
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So. Where's it coming from?
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47 year old george
markert is the alleged kingpin.
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Marquart really. Was.
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A real life walter white.
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Just didn't seem like the type.
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He was the genius,
the chemist, the mad scientist.
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He figured out a simple process
to collect the united states
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With all the fentanyl.
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In the world.
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Fentanyl came onto the scene
because.
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Of george marquart.
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It's scary.
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To think that something like
that could happen right. Here.
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He never expressed remorse,
never said he was sorry
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Because he wasn't.
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If I did not know that
every bit of it was true,
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I probably
would not believe it myself.
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This is the true story
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Of the deadliest clandestine
chemist in american history
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And the birth of this street
fentanyl epidemic.
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Is told by the man
who created it.
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Susan product.
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It was made. For.
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Killing people.
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So you feel like you were able
to successfully
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Pull that off
for a long running? For
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Many years.
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I'm john roberts.
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And this is
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The godfather of fentanyl.
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In 2014,
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George eric marquart,
the criminal mastermind
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Responsible
for unleashing street fentanyl,
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Agreed to a series of exclusive
interviews with former oklahoma
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Bureau of narcotics
agent john matier.
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I thought he was the most unique
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And interesting character
ever in american crime.
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The guy just killed more people
than all of the serial killers.
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You can name put together.
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Most of these interviews
were recorded on audio cassette.
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Publishing and on.
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A few were recorded on video.
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Most people have never heard
about this case.
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All are being heard and seen
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Now for the first time.
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So you want to hear
some stories.
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I'm jenny.
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And I'm mary.
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Our brother's
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Name is george eric mccourt.
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We always called him eric
because our father's name
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Was george.
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Growing up in waukesha,
wisconsin,
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We were very traditional family,
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Just like tv
shows about the fifties,
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You know, stay at home mom.
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Dad goes to work every day.
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We lived in a little house
on the corner.
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Our grandparents
lived next door.
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As a young child,
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He was adorable.
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He had really engaging eyes.
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Adults
were always very drawn to him
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Because he was remarkably
intelligent
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From an early age.
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He would put together
electrical circuits.
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He would work on the doorbell
at our grandparents house.
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He was very, very curious.
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Sometime
in the early grades, I started
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Fooling around with chemistry.
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I had several chemistry set ups.
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The big models was all of this.
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And that's.
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It was the most
astonishing thing.
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All these processes
were fascinating.
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His passion was chemistry.
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I mean, that was very clearly
his passion.
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And so our parents, they always
encouraged his curiosity.
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But we always knew
eric was a little different.
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Everybody knew eric
was a little different.
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Since he was so bright.
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They wanted him to
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Fit into their mold
of what a bright kid should do.
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And yes, and he didn't want.
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To and he didn't want to.
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That's about it.
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The sociologists will tell us
that the strongest
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Predictor of whether someone
is going to end up in prison
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Is how
well they adapt in school.
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Interest
in work for which learners
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See a purpose
provides its own discipline.
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I wanted nothing to do
with formal education.
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To me it was someone telling me
how to think.
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I wanted no part of.
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When marquart is
just 13 years old.
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A nearby university holds
a lecture that will
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Change his life
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And the course of history. One.
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It was dr.
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Oppenheimer
of the manhattan project
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That was open to anybody
that could attend.
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We live in a very unusual world
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Marked by great and irreversible
changes.
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One zero.
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I was very deeply
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Impressed by his that.
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After the lecture
he opens it up to questions
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And we ended up
with quite a conversation going
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Turned into sitting in the back
of a chemistry department at
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2:00 in the morning with julius
robert fucking oppenheimer.
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That's a
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Conversation you don't forget.
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That night
I decided whatever the decisions
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In my life, right or wrong,
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I'm going to make them myself.
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And was very determined
to do so.
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When he got to high school,
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The school did not have
the facilities or the expertise
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Sometimes to deal with
the things he wanted to know.
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So they sent him
to colleges in the area
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For some classes.
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The professor
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Over atlas college
took me over to the library
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And showed me
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How to sonically search
the literature of chemistry
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The way a professional chemist
does.
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That may have been
the most important thing
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That ever happened to me.
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There's a saying
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That seeking
knowledge is like opening doors.
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There are
many doors to choose from.
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And soon, 14
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Year old marquart
will use his newfound knowledge
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To open
an exceptionally dark one.
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Oddly, eric
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Had very unusual friendships
with, like, our father's doctor.
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The doctor.
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One of his jobs
was corner corner,
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And he had the key to rest
haven.
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It's a giant building across
the street from our house.
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Very, very close.
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At that time, it was abandoned.
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What eric told me later
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Is that the doctor had him
making heroin, using codeine.
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There was laying around
in the morgue there.
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I mean, he was just a kid,
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14 years old,
and somebody is taking
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Advantage of it
and asking him to make heroin.
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At the time, I wasn't really
familiar with heroin.
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I made it outside of the fact
that I had a vague
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Awareness
that people dealt themselves
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Some trouble
with stuff like this.
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It may seem unbelievable,
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But there are some people
who twist their minds on purpose
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With substances
that are swallowed or smoked
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Or even injected
into the bloodstream.
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Not a lot of fun
making this stuff.
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When I was isolating with salt,
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I got quite euphoric.
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A person who starts using heroin
gets a pleasant feeling
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Of well-being for a while.
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I guess you could describe it
as if you were going
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To feel this way all the time.
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You couldn't really be feeling
quite good.
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I mean, it was no worries,
no cares.
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I realize people
that are addicted,
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That was what they sought.
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And I took note of that.
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So, you know,
I guess I'm doing things right.
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Got a four year old or something
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Approaching
three ounces and he kept it,
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Which I knew no one could.
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So any such thing.
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I didn't meet those people
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Until later.
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I think the reason he got into
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Making drugs
was because he was asked to.
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Eric was just basically
flattered
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That this doctor thought he was
bright enough to make him
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Illegal drugs.
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A few years later,
they expelled him
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From high school
for nonattendance at the.
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My parents wanted me to work
for her in the school
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And get very good grades
and be a doctor
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Or a lawyer or an engine chief.
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And I wasn't interested.
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What a bad feeling generated.
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I started off
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All these illegal acts
more and more
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And individualistic by nature,
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That individualism
has become a dirty word
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Synonymous with sociopaths.
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That leads to the thought,
well, sociopath.
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Oh, the impact of a sociopath
will kill me.
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Or sociopath.
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He never
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Took drugs because it
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Disconnected him from his head
and he kind of liked
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What was in his head.
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But our parents never told us
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What was going on with him
making drugs.
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Until one day
some comment came up.
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And so at that point,
mom had to tell us that
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He was in jail.
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April of 1965,
that was my first arrest.
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I went to the university
of wisconsin.
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I found chemistry part
with stuff thrown
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And rubbed it.
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More and more young
people are using lsd.
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Lsd certainly has a solid
foothold.
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As he got older,
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More people started
asking about drugs
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Because they were
college campuses
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And they were the sixties.
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Often disguised in innocent
looking sugar cubes.
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Lsd can be.
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Made by anyone with a.
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Basic skill in chemistry.
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Or is all of us talking
there or on lsd before that?
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Can you make all this stuff?
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I said, we are.
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And they were willing to pay
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Money for.
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He needed equipment to do that.
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And so he would pilfer glassware
from here and there
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At one of the smaller
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Colleges in milwaukee.
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He was giving science lectures
to some classes.
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He was passing himself off
as a government physicist
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As part of a scam
to get glassware.
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I was one man, half academic,
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But that was the end
of plundered
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Because it caught up with me
and kept me in jail
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For a little while.
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The last time
he was actually at home
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For any length of time
was when we were 11 or 12.
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It was about 1970.
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I think mom always felt that
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We brought out the best in him
because he was a good brother.
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But some
of the stuff he got involved
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With was with dubious people.
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Our parents
pretty much told him,
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You can't bring the drugs
and that stuff around the girls.
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So there was tension between him
and our parents.
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And at the end of that summer,
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We went east to a family wedding
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While we were gone.
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He stole daddy's car.
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He was about 23 years old,
and he disappeared
263
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Into the night.
264
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He never talked to my parents
again, ever.
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It broke their heart.
It was hard.
266
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It was very, very hard.
267
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It was very hard.
268
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I saw no future for me there.
269
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I want to do an adventurous
lifestyle
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And be freedom to pursue
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My own interests.
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I had this feeling that
273
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Times were changing,
274
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That I
wanted to be a part of it.
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The 1960s are often
276
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Thought of as the drug era,
277
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But actually it's the 1970s
278
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When drug use
in the united states
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Explodes.
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America's
public enemy number one in
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The united states is drug abuse.
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We know and can show that
there are many places
283
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Where drugs are openly sold
heroin, speed, acid
284
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And a long list of commonly used
uppers and downers
285
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Are readily available.
286
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Just as soon as you've agreed
to buy a joint for a dollar,
287
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You can get immediate prices
288
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For the hard
and often dangerous stuff.
289
00:16:13,773 --> 00:16:16,641
And so as experimentation
with illicit drugs
290
00:16:16,643 --> 00:16:20,678
Becomes more mainstream,
291
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George eric marquart
292
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Finds himself in the right place
at the right time
293
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To capitalize on the nation's
growing demand for drugs
294
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And propel himself into infamy.
295
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I had been working on
296
00:16:35,578 --> 00:16:39,447
Steven all over the country
for a few years.
297
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But the lsd is a sporadic
demand.
298
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There isn't a mass repeat usage.
299
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I wanted something
more reliable.
300
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A drug addict.
301
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He's got a constant
need to have more
302
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Amphetamine and more opiate y.
303
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Lamb, lamb, lamb.
304
00:17:03,473 --> 00:17:06,474
They just want more and more
and more and more.
305
00:17:06,643 --> 00:17:09,844
That creates a constant demand
306
00:17:09,946 --> 00:17:18,486
And lots of interest to me.
307
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In early 1975,
308
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29 year old marquart arrives
in oklahoma and.
309
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Got acquainted with the place
310
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Just so I could live
the style of life
311
00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:39,774
That I wanted to
and do what I wanted to do.
312
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My name is john madigan.
313
00:17:41,778 --> 00:17:44,278
I was a narcotics agent
at the oklahoma bureau.
314
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Narcotics
315
00:17:47,851 --> 00:17:51,986
Lp and was established
in the summer of 1975
316
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To investigate any drug related
crime anywhere in the state.
317
00:17:56,876 --> 00:17:59,877
It's funny because oklahoma is
a socially conservative state.
318
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They call it
the buckle of the bible belt.
319
00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:07,318
But in the seventies,
there was a lot of oil money.
320
00:18:07,353 --> 00:18:10,271
A lot of people came in chasing
that money.
321
00:18:10,273 --> 00:18:12,974
This caused the problem
with meth.
322
00:18:12,976 --> 00:18:16,544
The consumers of this stuff
were mostly people
323
00:18:16,546 --> 00:18:18,513
Working in the oil fields,
you know,
324
00:18:18,515 --> 00:18:20,314
And they went out there
and they wanted to work
325
00:18:20,316 --> 00:18:22,650
16 hour days
and make a lot of money.
326
00:18:22,652 --> 00:18:26,337
And carry all weekend.
327
00:18:26,372 --> 00:18:29,273
Methamphetamine
was cheaper than coke.
328
00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:31,742
So you had a lot of people
that were buying it
329
00:18:31,744 --> 00:18:33,677
Because they wanted
that kind of high,
330
00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:37,765
But they were getting it
from a cheaper product.
331
00:18:37,817 --> 00:18:39,217
At high dosages.
332
00:18:39,219 --> 00:18:42,603
We often see an amphetamine
psychosis.
333
00:18:42,705 --> 00:18:50,878
This paranoia produces
a great deal of violence.
334
00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:52,280
Drugs were
335
00:18:52,282 --> 00:18:56,217
Booming in oklahoma
at that point in time, partly
336
00:18:56,219 --> 00:19:00,404
Because we're right
in the middle of the country.
337
00:19:00,507 --> 00:19:02,974
Oklahoma
sits at the intersection
338
00:19:02,976 --> 00:19:07,411
Of interstate
35 and interstate 40.
339
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,847
So there was a lot of traffic
coming through
340
00:19:09,849 --> 00:19:15,236
And a lot of biker activity
341
00:19:15,338 --> 00:19:16,671
And a lot of the biker
342
00:19:16,673 --> 00:19:19,674
Gangs sold drugs.
343
00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:21,442
I'm elaine. God.
344
00:19:21,444 --> 00:19:27,448
I was the first bureau
of narcotics female agent.
345
00:19:27,550 --> 00:19:28,749
At the time.
346
00:19:28,751 --> 00:19:33,004
I came to oklahoma city
and stayed with a friend of mine
347
00:19:33,072 --> 00:19:37,341
Who had a friend that was very
interested in meeting me.
348
00:19:37,443 --> 00:19:41,379
That was robert harris, who?
349
00:19:41,447 --> 00:19:44,248
Harris approached me
about the possibility
350
00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:49,337
Of making amphetamines,
methamphetamine
351
00:19:49,439 --> 00:19:51,072
Labs, and I couldn't do
352
00:19:51,074 --> 00:19:54,041
Any kind of chemistry thing
before.
353
00:19:54,277 --> 00:19:55,993
There are so many pagans.
354
00:19:55,995 --> 00:19:58,446
Motorcycle gang had the money.
355
00:19:58,448 --> 00:20:02,683
We were 50% partners,
356
00:20:02,752 --> 00:20:04,919
But we got
that place over on north west.
357
00:20:04,921 --> 00:20:07,572
Fergus.
358
00:20:07,574 --> 00:20:13,177
Then I went to work.
359
00:20:13,246 --> 00:20:14,378
The whole operation
360
00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:18,849
Was quite successful.
361
00:20:18,952 --> 00:20:21,936
I guess the people harris
was selling to loved it,
362
00:20:22,071 --> 00:20:25,873
So I couldn't live a comfortable
lifestyle.
363
00:20:25,942 --> 00:20:29,944
They all said I was the best.
364
00:20:30,013 --> 00:20:33,014
They would attract the stuff
in coffee rangers.
365
00:20:33,182 --> 00:20:37,885
It was strictly white, and
it looked just like coffee made.
366
00:20:37,987 --> 00:20:39,570
But I began to notice
367
00:20:39,572 --> 00:20:41,606
Harris
would treat them in the house
368
00:20:41,608 --> 00:20:44,976
And go to the horror store,
the finished product, and take
369
00:20:44,978 --> 00:20:48,646
So my way.
370
00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:52,617
Harris had severe drug problems,
371
00:20:52,685 --> 00:20:56,137
And you know how people
like that are.
372
00:20:56,205 --> 00:21:00,808
They'll fuck you
and they'll certainly quit
373
00:21:00,910 --> 00:21:01,809
Anyway.
374
00:21:02,011 --> 00:21:05,813
I took off as a lady
for the weekend to have some fun
375
00:21:05,915 --> 00:21:07,448
And wanted to return.
376
00:21:07,450 --> 00:21:10,985
The laboratory
had been cleaned out.
377
00:21:11,054 --> 00:21:14,405
All the
equipment had been taken,
378
00:21:14,507 --> 00:21:15,339
Basically.
379
00:21:15,475 --> 00:21:17,608
Harris felt
he had learned enough from me
380
00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:21,279
To run the operation by himself.
381
00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:24,048
Got ripped off.
382
00:21:24,050 --> 00:21:28,286
Somebody goes up to me
and some fuckin food
383
00:21:28,354 --> 00:21:31,672
For one way or another,
whether I have to work
384
00:21:31,674 --> 00:21:35,042
With the other side or whether
I have a purpose and devil
385
00:21:35,144 --> 00:21:39,513
I I'm going to fuck the person.
386
00:21:39,582 --> 00:21:45,369
So I did what I did.
387
00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:48,572
In the summer of 1975,
jimmy birdsong
388
00:21:48,641 --> 00:21:52,443
Was one of the agents
in the oklahoma city office.
389
00:21:52,512 --> 00:21:55,913
He got a call from well,
he got a call from a guy
390
00:21:55,915 --> 00:21:57,381
He'd never heard of before,
391
00:21:57,383 --> 00:22:01,819
And the guy wanted to tell him
about a methamphetamine lab.
392
00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:06,007
Turned out to be george
eric marquart.
393
00:22:06,075 --> 00:22:07,942
We talked about this
whole thing,
394
00:22:07,944 --> 00:22:11,912
And I'd given jimmy
all the details of harris.
395
00:22:12,015 --> 00:22:15,649
I heard the conversation
went something like,
396
00:22:15,685 --> 00:22:18,085
I can inform on a person
that's making meth,
397
00:22:18,087 --> 00:22:20,604
But he's making bad meth,
so I'd be glad to
398
00:22:20,606 --> 00:22:23,307
Give everything out on him.
399
00:22:23,376 --> 00:22:25,676
It was like hitting the jackpot.
400
00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:30,314
And this is a call about a major
drug lab in oklahoma city
401
00:22:30,416 --> 00:22:31,615
In boston.
402
00:22:31,617 --> 00:22:36,703
Harris
cooking dope in his backyard.
403
00:22:36,739 --> 00:22:39,640
The bureau thought
that was astonishing.
404
00:22:39,642 --> 00:22:48,249
Jimmy but it was like the truth.
405
00:22:48,317 --> 00:22:51,218
Mark hart's tip results
in the largest clandestine
406
00:22:51,220 --> 00:22:55,272
Lab bust to date for
the oklahoma bureau of narcotics
407
00:22:55,375 --> 00:22:58,209
And marks the beginning
of his budding reputation
408
00:22:58,211 --> 00:23:02,413
As a notorious drug maker
in his own right.
409
00:23:02,515 --> 00:23:04,148
I was a prosecutor
410
00:23:04,150 --> 00:23:07,151
Witness at the harris trial,
411
00:23:07,387 --> 00:23:12,373
And I gave some
pretty spectacular testimony.
412
00:23:12,442 --> 00:23:14,442
It was unbelievable.
413
00:23:14,444 --> 00:23:17,311
He admitted all of his past
414
00:23:17,313 --> 00:23:21,382
Crimes, were pretty proud
of it, actually, and bragged
415
00:23:21,384 --> 00:23:25,536
On how good a chemist he was
and how crummy a chemist.
416
00:23:25,605 --> 00:23:30,808
Harris was made a very
big impression on the jury.
417
00:23:30,877 --> 00:23:33,677
Harris got convicted,
418
00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:38,349
Countless little laughs
nailed on the wall.
419
00:23:38,451 --> 00:23:40,785
As part of his agreement
to testify.
420
00:23:40,787 --> 00:23:45,339
Marquart
also agrees to a larger deal
421
00:23:45,408 --> 00:23:49,176
Immunity from any pending
charges for past crimes
422
00:23:49,245 --> 00:23:54,115
So long as he continues to work
as an informant.
423
00:23:54,217 --> 00:23:57,618
That's
when I first met in person
424
00:23:57,687 --> 00:24:01,605
George eric marquart,
425
00:24:01,707 --> 00:24:02,072
When we met
426
00:24:02,442 --> 00:24:05,409
At the bureau in oklahoma city.
427
00:24:05,511 --> 00:24:08,245
First impression
he wasn't like anybody
428
00:24:08,247 --> 00:24:11,916
That I'd ever run across before
in the drug business.
429
00:24:12,017 --> 00:24:17,004
He was personable,
friendly, real open.
430
00:24:17,106 --> 00:24:19,640
I remember I walked in
and I said,
431
00:24:19,642 --> 00:24:24,211
George marquart,
nobody calls me george mccord.
432
00:24:24,313 --> 00:24:28,415
If squeak,
you motherfucker, are you?
433
00:24:28,484 --> 00:24:29,717
He doesn't look like a squeak.
434
00:24:29,719 --> 00:24:31,752
He's a big guy.
435
00:24:31,754 --> 00:24:32,703
Said it was a nickname
436
00:24:32,705 --> 00:24:34,805
That had been given to him
by his grandmother
437
00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:38,576
When he was a little kid.
438
00:24:38,644 --> 00:24:40,911
He used to sign his letters
439
00:24:40,913 --> 00:24:43,714
With squeak, and he would draw
a little mauser.
440
00:24:43,716 --> 00:24:46,684
Or I guess it was a squeak rat.
441
00:24:46,686 --> 00:24:49,670
But I never heard where it came
from.
442
00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:54,141
No, we never call them that.
443
00:24:54,243 --> 00:24:57,745
There was a wrist police to me
that quite a lot.
444
00:24:57,847 --> 00:25:00,915
And I said,
I don't mind law enforcement.
445
00:25:00,917 --> 00:25:02,449
That's the game.
446
00:25:02,451 --> 00:25:02,883
And that's
447
00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:06,954
A game that should be played
between serious players.
448
00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:10,074
He was definitely
the smartest criminal I ever met
449
00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:13,911
In 35 years of law enforcement.
450
00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:16,981
This is a guy who never
graduated from high school.
451
00:25:17,183 --> 00:25:19,817
One time I sat there for 3 hours
452
00:25:19,819 --> 00:25:22,803
And I didn't understand a word
that guy said.
453
00:25:23,005 --> 00:25:25,873
We pro-family
citizens will put our own values
454
00:25:25,875 --> 00:25:29,677
Or sign on in leading offensive
cell phone systems or save
455
00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:33,314
The lives of all
456
00:25:33,382 --> 00:25:33,981
Informants.
457
00:25:33,983 --> 00:25:35,849
Had to be a high caliber
458
00:25:35,851 --> 00:25:38,702
Or they weren't really worth
having as an informant.
459
00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:41,071
It turned out that marquart
knew more about chemistry
460
00:25:41,073 --> 00:25:44,542
Than trained chemist.
461
00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:46,810
Done some good stuff.
462
00:25:46,812 --> 00:25:49,613
People believed
we were going to be making
463
00:25:49,615 --> 00:25:53,551
A lot of lab cases
with the help of marquart.
464
00:25:53,586 --> 00:25:55,836
That was the promise.
465
00:25:55,838 --> 00:25:59,039
Of course,
my objectives wasn't the same.
466
00:25:59,141 --> 00:26:01,408
I mean, people aren't
what you think
467
00:26:01,410 --> 00:26:05,145
They are, right?
468
00:26:05,214 --> 00:26:09,216
He became a legend in oklahoma
469
00:26:09,218 --> 00:26:14,805
Among the people
who worked the drug cases.
470
00:26:14,907 --> 00:26:17,441
But like any good con
471
00:26:17,443 --> 00:26:20,444
Man, mark park had spent a tail.
472
00:26:20,513 --> 00:26:22,646
And then you will have a point
in time
473
00:26:22,648 --> 00:26:25,849
Where you realize
you're being sucked in.
474
00:26:25,985 --> 00:26:28,602
Half the time I was 13, so
475
00:26:28,604 --> 00:26:30,604
And the other half of the time
I was running in a
476
00:26:30,606 --> 00:26:33,474
Drug lab someplace.
477
00:26:33,542 --> 00:26:36,510
Oh, what a complicated life.
478
00:26:36,512 --> 00:26:39,280
It was kind of nerve racking.
479
00:26:39,282 --> 00:26:42,650
Then I realized I had to move.
480
00:26:42,752 --> 00:26:45,152
He just vanished.
481
00:26:45,154 --> 00:26:46,937
Just took off.
482
00:26:46,939 --> 00:26:49,440
He skipped out of town,
and people
483
00:26:49,442 --> 00:26:52,443
Didn't know where he was.
484
00:26:52,445 --> 00:26:55,245
Everybody knew, though, that
485
00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:58,716
Wherever he was, he was going
to be making more drugs.
486
00:26:58,818 --> 00:27:05,306
That was what he did.
487
00:27:05,408 --> 00:27:09,109
Then went up to the pacific
northwest.
488
00:27:09,178 --> 00:27:11,378
So now I was at large.
489
00:27:11,380 --> 00:27:14,048
I started laughing at last foot.
490
00:27:14,050 --> 00:27:15,849
You mean like I'm out here
running around
491
00:27:15,851 --> 00:27:17,851
Like a western bad ass
with a pistol?
492
00:27:17,853 --> 00:27:23,240
And then he said, yeah, okay.
493
00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:24,508
Anyway,
494
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:30,280
And quite a lot of dope up
in seattle.
495
00:27:30,349 --> 00:27:33,183
Within a month or two of him
disappearing.
496
00:27:33,185 --> 00:27:36,103
Warren henderson,
who was the agent up in tulsa,
497
00:27:36,105 --> 00:27:38,939
Was buying meth undercover
from some guy
498
00:27:38,941 --> 00:27:41,975
Who said he was getting them
from the pacific northwest,
499
00:27:42,178 --> 00:27:46,013
Supposedly
from somebody named squeak.
500
00:27:46,082 --> 00:27:49,149
Warren realized
they were dealing with me
501
00:27:49,385 --> 00:27:55,906
And proceeded to chase me.
502
00:27:55,975 --> 00:27:59,777
People were looking for him
in seattle.
503
00:27:59,879 --> 00:28:02,780
I know several
agents went up and look for him.
504
00:28:02,782 --> 00:28:05,349
Couldn't find him.
505
00:28:05,351 --> 00:28:07,951
By the time
he found out where I live,
506
00:28:07,953 --> 00:28:11,555
I had bailed.
507
00:28:11,607 --> 00:28:12,973
But somehow or another,
508
00:28:12,975 --> 00:28:15,976
They followed me
over to spokane.
509
00:28:16,112 --> 00:28:18,712
If you've seen breaking bad,
he remembered how they started
510
00:28:18,714 --> 00:28:19,847
Off with an rv
511
00:28:19,849 --> 00:28:23,917
Moving around and cooking
in different remote places.
512
00:28:23,986 --> 00:28:26,737
They started
going to campgrounds and parks
513
00:28:26,739 --> 00:28:28,138
And make a voucher to.
514
00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:32,376
And then he moved
to another location.
515
00:28:32,445 --> 00:28:33,477
And rolled down
516
00:28:33,479 --> 00:28:36,480
The columbia river gorge,
517
00:28:36,649 --> 00:28:40,718
Making it
all the various campgrounds.
518
00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:44,538
Marquart really was a real live
519
00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:47,574
Walter white.
520
00:28:47,576 --> 00:28:48,909
That was probably on
521
00:28:48,911 --> 00:28:53,046
Top of my game is a
hit and run drug manufacturer
522
00:28:53,115 --> 00:28:55,015
For old fuck where they started.
523
00:28:55,017 --> 00:28:56,683
You know.
524
00:28:56,685 --> 00:28:58,919
A lot of times
they got really close.
525
00:28:58,921 --> 00:29:00,804
People say, yeah,
we saw that guy,
526
00:29:00,806 --> 00:29:03,807
We smelled some weird stuff,
527
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:07,644
But he's gone.
528
00:29:07,713 --> 00:29:08,612
It wasn't a forever
529
00:29:08,614 --> 00:29:15,452
Fun way of making a living.
530
00:29:15,521 --> 00:29:17,504
The thrill of the chase.
531
00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:21,708
It's part of the fast
side of every criminal
532
00:29:21,777 --> 00:29:25,579
And that's
part of the allure as well.
533
00:29:25,648 --> 00:29:27,414
I'm larry harris.
534
00:29:27,416 --> 00:29:34,071
I was squeaky
silly for two and a half years.
535
00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:34,872
Anyone,
536
00:29:35,174 --> 00:29:39,342
No matter where they are
in the pantheon of crime,
537
00:29:39,411 --> 00:29:42,646
That thrill of the chase,
the thrill of being chased.
538
00:29:42,748 --> 00:29:44,848
That's all part of it.
539
00:29:44,850 --> 00:29:46,450
The only be
the game is the game.
540
00:29:46,452 --> 00:29:51,171
And you just found the game
so interesting.
541
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,441
Every time I got off
another batch, I'd look up
542
00:29:54,443 --> 00:29:57,811
At the moon and the stars
and it said for once more.
543
00:29:57,913 --> 00:30:03,984
Don't know. They feeding it.
544
00:30:04,086 --> 00:30:04,585
After a few
545
00:30:05,204 --> 00:30:07,571
Months, we actually obm said,
you got to come home.
546
00:30:07,606 --> 00:30:08,906
The whole office is out.
547
00:30:08,908 --> 00:30:14,211
File on this guy
and you're in the wrong state.
548
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,348
The reality is law enforcement
can't spend endless time
549
00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:23,303
And money chasing down one
clandestine chemist.
550
00:30:23,405 --> 00:30:26,740
But sometimes even the most
notorious criminals
551
00:30:26,809 --> 00:30:37,117
Can't help coming back
to what they know.
552
00:30:37,186 --> 00:30:38,118
The agents
553
00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:43,073
Get back to the tulsa area,
and lo and behold,
554
00:30:43,108 --> 00:30:46,243
Warren henderson
was watching a payphone
555
00:30:46,378 --> 00:30:49,079
And just happened to see george
eric marquart
556
00:30:49,081 --> 00:30:55,786
Get on the telephone.
557
00:30:55,855 --> 00:30:56,837
Probably not
558
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,840
A real good thing
to do in retrospect,
559
00:31:00,008 --> 00:31:02,442
But I had some customers
in that area
560
00:31:02,444 --> 00:31:06,747
And I needed to make some money.
561
00:31:06,882 --> 00:31:09,616
Henderson just waited for him
to get back in his truck
562
00:31:09,618 --> 00:31:20,477
And then followed him south down
to a little town called beggs.
563
00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:23,480
Beggs is
about 25 miles south of tulsa.
564
00:31:23,482 --> 00:31:28,018
It's about 1100 people.
565
00:31:28,087 --> 00:31:29,603
It was a place
you could drive by
566
00:31:29,605 --> 00:31:33,040
And not paying
attention to it all.
567
00:31:33,108 --> 00:31:36,042
It's just a very typical
568
00:31:36,044 --> 00:31:42,082
Oklahoma town.
569
00:31:42,184 --> 00:31:42,950
And I was going
570
00:31:42,952 --> 00:31:46,136
To make £20 of meth
571
00:31:46,138 --> 00:31:51,375
Over a period of several weeks
572
00:31:51,476 --> 00:31:59,850
And clean the operation up.
573
00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:02,352
So they followed him down
to a house
574
00:32:02,354 --> 00:32:07,774
That was set back
about 100 yards from the road.
575
00:32:07,843 --> 00:32:11,144
If you were to drive
by that house, you would believe
576
00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:15,983
It was just any good okie
living their life.
577
00:32:16,051 --> 00:32:18,085
But knowing marquart,
578
00:32:18,087 --> 00:32:22,306
You knew there had to be a lab.
579
00:32:22,374 --> 00:32:24,207
The agents
now have the possibility
580
00:32:24,209 --> 00:32:28,879
Of busting marquart in the act
of drug manufacturing,
581
00:32:28,948 --> 00:32:33,283
A crime that will carry
a much heftier penalty.
582
00:32:33,402 --> 00:32:36,303
So we set up surveillance
583
00:32:36,305 --> 00:32:44,678
To be
watching the house 24 seven.
584
00:32:44,747 --> 00:32:45,479
The smell
585
00:32:45,948 --> 00:32:47,948
Is the first thing it hits you
when you go in a meth lab.
586
00:32:47,950 --> 00:32:48,649
And that's why
587
00:32:49,218 --> 00:32:52,436
Most of the labs back in those
days were out in rural areas.
588
00:32:52,504 --> 00:32:55,272
The main chemical used
for cooking meth
589
00:32:55,274 --> 00:32:58,709
Was something called
similar acetic acid.
590
00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:03,580
It is one of the worst smelling
things you'll ever encounter.
591
00:33:03,649 --> 00:33:06,500
We were trying to figure out
if somebody is cooking meth.
592
00:33:06,502 --> 00:33:09,987
You could always get
a whiff of that.
593
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,673
The agents
decide to send two undercovers
594
00:33:12,675 --> 00:33:31,058
Up to the house to see
if they can smell the chemicals.
595
00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:33,410
And they were going to say
they had car trouble and could.
596
00:33:33,412 --> 00:33:35,912
Could they use the phone?
597
00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:37,814
The two agents they picked
were lonnie
598
00:33:37,816 --> 00:33:44,037
Wright and lane dodd.
599
00:33:44,139 --> 00:33:46,139
When we walked up to the
600
00:33:46,141 --> 00:33:51,878
House, it was exhilarating.
601
00:33:51,914 --> 00:33:53,847
I knew I was going to get to
602
00:33:53,849 --> 00:33:59,636
Be a part of this major case
and I was going get to meet
603
00:33:59,671 --> 00:34:03,040
The person that I'd been hearing
about all this time.
604
00:34:03,108 --> 00:34:12,849
The infamous marquart.
605
00:34:12,951 --> 00:34:14,284
Young lady
606
00:34:14,286 --> 00:34:17,871
And her associate
came to the door.
607
00:34:17,956 --> 00:34:19,539
They needed to make a phone
call.
608
00:34:19,541 --> 00:34:23,276
Could they use my telephone?
609
00:34:23,411 --> 00:34:25,078
He said, no.
610
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,014
And we said, what's going on?
611
00:34:28,016 --> 00:34:30,183
I apologized to them profusely.
612
00:34:30,185 --> 00:34:32,402
I would like to let them
use my phone.
613
00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:36,306
But unfortunately, I was doing
something colby related.
614
00:34:36,308 --> 00:34:38,275
It smelled bad.
615
00:34:38,277 --> 00:34:42,846
You could smell the drugs
from the porch without question.
616
00:34:42,948 --> 00:34:45,348
He did not let us in,
617
00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:56,810
But it was clearly enough
to get a warrant.
618
00:34:56,912 --> 00:35:01,248
The following morning,
619
00:35:01,283 --> 00:35:06,586
First thing,
620
00:35:06,655 --> 00:35:07,737
They went to execute
621
00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:14,077
The search warrant,
622
00:35:14,179 --> 00:35:19,082
Got there and knocked
and he answered the door.
623
00:35:19,151 --> 00:35:22,152
He shows up
at the door with a gas mask on
624
00:35:22,187 --> 00:35:26,506
And pulls his gas mask back.
625
00:35:26,575 --> 00:35:27,641
And he says, well, come on in.
626
00:35:27,643 --> 00:35:29,943
You guys caught me red headed.
627
00:35:29,945 --> 00:35:31,711
I'll show you
how the lab is working
628
00:35:31,713 --> 00:35:37,584
And I'll turn. It off for you.
629
00:35:37,653 --> 00:35:39,619
He had the attitude
630
00:35:39,621 --> 00:35:42,606
That it was, in a way, a game,
631
00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:47,077
And he took us through proudly
showing what was going on.
632
00:35:47,179 --> 00:35:50,981
Basically, I gave them a guided
tour of, well, this is this.
633
00:35:51,049 --> 00:35:55,452
And this was that wasn't
really showing off the process
634
00:35:55,454 --> 00:35:56,469
Or anything like that.
635
00:35:56,471 --> 00:35:58,104
I just didn't
want any of the people
636
00:35:58,106 --> 00:36:01,608
Handling this stuff
to be injured.
637
00:36:01,677 --> 00:36:03,977
To see the home
638
00:36:03,979 --> 00:36:06,980
Decked out
just like a chemistry lab
639
00:36:07,115 --> 00:36:12,686
Was extraordinary.
640
00:36:12,788 --> 00:36:20,544
I was totally
amazed by what we saw.
641
00:36:20,612 --> 00:36:23,246
Very few people
have as many projects going on.
642
00:36:23,248 --> 00:36:27,117
It just doesn't happen
with most chemists.
643
00:36:27,186 --> 00:36:30,470
He had one room where
he was making them amphetamine
644
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:33,974
And in the second room
he was making two, four, five
645
00:36:33,976 --> 00:36:37,544
Try meth, oxy, amphetamine.
646
00:36:37,613 --> 00:36:39,779
You said that the effects
were very similar
647
00:36:39,781 --> 00:36:45,652
To methamphetamine, plus lsd.
648
00:36:45,754 --> 00:36:47,971
He was a real chemist.
649
00:36:47,973 --> 00:36:49,873
I just did one thing
and one thing only,
650
00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:51,708
And it was
fairly straightforward.
651
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:56,980
Whereas he was always looking
for new challenges,
652
00:36:57,082 --> 00:37:03,536
How to make things
that had never been made before.
653
00:37:03,605 --> 00:37:06,039
The discovery of the bags
lab marks a chilling
654
00:37:06,041 --> 00:37:09,476
Turning point in mccourt's
illegal drug banking career.
655
00:37:09,544 --> 00:37:13,013
It is here that agents discover
marquart has been
656
00:37:13,015 --> 00:37:14,981
Secretly experimenting
with creating
657
00:37:14,983 --> 00:37:20,170
Totally new and powerful drugs,
a pursuit he will later achieve
658
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:35,819
With devastating results.
659
00:37:35,887 --> 00:37:38,071
After he was arrested,
660
00:37:38,073 --> 00:37:40,974
He was transported to muskogee,
which is where the federal
661
00:37:40,976 --> 00:37:46,913
Court is, and eastern district
of oklahoma.
662
00:37:47,015 --> 00:37:50,016
Interview take one more.
663
00:37:50,152 --> 00:37:51,851
My name is john osgood.
664
00:37:51,853 --> 00:37:53,370
In 1978.
665
00:37:53,372 --> 00:37:57,274
I was an assistant united states
attorney for the oklahoma
666
00:37:57,276 --> 00:37:58,508
Bureau of narcotics.
667
00:37:58,510 --> 00:38:00,410
Came to me with the case
involving mr.
668
00:38:00,412 --> 00:38:03,413
Marquart.
669
00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:06,383
He ended up pleading guilty
fairly quickly,
670
00:38:06,385 --> 00:38:09,836
Which is unusual in a case
like this.
671
00:38:09,921 --> 00:38:12,205
When you plead guilty,
there is no trial.
672
00:38:12,207 --> 00:38:13,723
You just give a factual basis
673
00:38:13,725 --> 00:38:17,610
For the crime and then the judge
would impose a sentence.
674
00:38:17,713 --> 00:38:19,179
At the time that mr.
675
00:38:19,181 --> 00:38:21,114
Mccourt was sentenced.
676
00:38:21,116 --> 00:38:23,983
I had felt
I got to know him a little.
677
00:38:23,985 --> 00:38:25,568
Just from our interaction,
678
00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:27,070
I kind of felt
sorry for the guy.
679
00:38:27,072 --> 00:38:28,805
I mean,
he was the mad scientist,
680
00:38:28,807 --> 00:38:31,708
So to speak,
or the genius, the chemist.
681
00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:35,245
And I didn't think he
682
00:38:35,314 --> 00:38:38,264
Was that big of a threat.
683
00:38:38,266 --> 00:38:40,817
So I tried to tell him,
maybe you ought to show
684
00:38:40,819 --> 00:38:42,252
A little contrition.
685
00:38:42,254 --> 00:38:48,174
Go in there and behave yourself,
and maybe you'll do okay.
686
00:38:48,210 --> 00:38:51,544
And he didn't take my advice.
687
00:38:51,613 --> 00:38:53,380
I went to court
and went down there
688
00:38:53,382 --> 00:38:56,916
And told him I'd do it again.
689
00:38:56,985 --> 00:38:59,302
He just told the judge
he was a drug dealer.
690
00:38:59,304 --> 00:39:00,203
He liked what he did.
691
00:39:00,205 --> 00:39:01,905
He thought he was good
at what he did
692
00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:05,875
And he would continue to do it
probably when he got out.
693
00:39:05,944 --> 00:39:08,878
And told agents and court,
I will start up
694
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,113
Another operation
695
00:39:10,115 --> 00:39:13,149
And I can have a good time
and make lots of drugs
696
00:39:13,151 --> 00:39:18,304
And you can come down
and chase me around.
697
00:39:18,340 --> 00:39:20,173
He made no bones
about the fact that
698
00:39:20,175 --> 00:39:25,412
As soon as he got out of there,
he was going to do it again.
699
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,280
And he
was the first one that ever made
700
00:39:27,282 --> 00:39:30,583
That kind of performance
in the courtroom.
701
00:39:30,685 --> 00:39:33,269
I was just I was shocked.
702
00:39:33,271 --> 00:39:38,108
Judge morris gave him ten years,
strongest ends he could get.
703
00:39:38,210 --> 00:39:41,478
And that began
the rest of his story.
704
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:46,549
This thing was fought before
it turned wicked.
705
00:39:46,651 --> 00:39:49,619
That book.
706
00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:53,206
As a result of the biggs bust,
george eric marquart is sent
707
00:39:53,208 --> 00:39:57,177
To federal prison in a dark
and ironic twist of fate.
708
00:39:57,279 --> 00:40:00,280
This will propel him down
the road to becoming
709
00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:07,637
The godfather of fentanyl.
710
00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:11,174
And getting shipped
to australia.
711
00:40:11,276 --> 00:40:12,709
And I know it doesn't have
712
00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:16,413
A particularly nice reputation.
713
00:40:16,481 --> 00:40:18,047
It's a very bad place.
714
00:40:18,049 --> 00:40:20,417
It ships after
715
00:40:20,419 --> 00:40:23,703
Shifter that punched a hole
716
00:40:23,772 --> 00:40:27,640
A couple of days in isolation.
717
00:40:27,709 --> 00:40:29,776
And you had nothing,
718
00:40:29,778 --> 00:40:36,149
No blankets,
no sheet, no mattress, nothing.
719
00:40:36,251 --> 00:40:43,089
So don't fuck up.
720
00:40:43,141 --> 00:40:45,608
At the time, most
top level mobsters
721
00:40:45,610 --> 00:40:51,848
From east coast crime
families are sent to lewisburg.
722
00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:54,017
Guys like john gotti,
boss of new york's
723
00:40:54,019 --> 00:40:57,337
Gambino family, and henry hill,
the gangster
724
00:40:57,339 --> 00:40:59,405
Who inspired the movie
goodfellas.
725
00:40:59,407 --> 00:41:03,810
Both served time here.
726
00:41:03,912 --> 00:41:04,644
Mafiosi
727
00:41:04,846 --> 00:41:07,664
Are all housed in an area
called j block.
728
00:41:07,749 --> 00:41:10,984
This is the block
where marquart is also assigned,
729
00:41:11,086 --> 00:41:14,304
Meaning he is now surrounded by
some of the most powerful
730
00:41:14,306 --> 00:41:17,307
Drug trafficking
kingpins in the country.
731
00:41:17,509 --> 00:41:20,376
The very people
who will look to capitalize
732
00:41:20,378 --> 00:41:27,550
On his unique expertise.
733
00:41:27,619 --> 00:41:33,139
Of the gangster show.
734
00:41:33,175 --> 00:41:34,507
You know, because john flows
735
00:41:34,509 --> 00:41:37,510
Like that, you're
looking for a good conversation.
736
00:41:37,646 --> 00:41:39,646
You know,
737
00:41:39,648 --> 00:41:44,284
And I find
for a good conversation,
738
00:41:44,369 --> 00:41:50,340
Notorious criminals.
739
00:41:50,408 --> 00:41:53,409
Prison
is an interesting experience.
740
00:41:53,545 --> 00:41:57,080
Some people go to prison and
do their time and get out and
741
00:41:57,148 --> 00:41:59,449
Behave themselves.
742
00:41:59,518 --> 00:42:02,685
But some people spend
a substantial amount of time
743
00:42:02,687 --> 00:42:04,571
Discussing how to do more crime,
744
00:42:04,573 --> 00:42:06,639
Better crime,
and supposedly crime.
745
00:42:06,641 --> 00:42:07,574
They're not going to get caught
746
00:42:07,675 --> 00:42:10,577
Committing the next time
when they're outside.
747
00:42:10,745 --> 00:42:13,646
So mark, court
was probably somewhat
748
00:42:13,648 --> 00:42:17,951
Of a minor celebrity in prison
because of the mystique
749
00:42:17,953 --> 00:42:22,138
Surrounding his operation
in oklahoma.
750
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,208
They will find out what you are
there for them.
751
00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:27,243
That's just the nature prison.
752
00:42:27,245 --> 00:42:30,046
You know, I was a representative
753
00:42:30,048 --> 00:42:34,651
Of a relatively new
and novel type of criminal.
754
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,539
So I was well known
in the prison population.
755
00:42:39,641 --> 00:42:43,843
Everybody knew he was the real
deal and better at what he did.
756
00:42:43,845 --> 00:42:47,046
And most of the other people
who were forced
757
00:42:47,082 --> 00:42:54,003
A good fight and lost.
758
00:42:54,072 --> 00:42:57,073
Like a serial killer
lived next door to me
759
00:42:57,175 --> 00:42:59,842
Because the next step was like,
everyone train.
760
00:42:59,844 --> 00:43:05,648
He was one bad motherfucker.
761
00:43:05,784 --> 00:43:06,983
He would simply kill the
762
00:43:06,985 --> 00:43:10,837
People that he believed was.
763
00:43:10,905 --> 00:43:13,273
Another major figure
in the running that ran heroin
764
00:43:13,275 --> 00:43:15,308
Between France and new york
and was stabbed to death
765
00:43:15,310 --> 00:43:18,111
Last night, just hours
before a team of federal prison
766
00:43:18,113 --> 00:43:21,998
Officials arrived
to conduct an investigation.
767
00:43:22,050 --> 00:43:24,851
So you knew that
he had the capacity
768
00:43:24,853 --> 00:43:28,037
To be particularly vicious.
769
00:43:28,106 --> 00:43:29,973
But I found her on the train
770
00:43:29,975 --> 00:43:41,784
Rather restrained.
771
00:43:41,853 --> 00:43:43,970
One day,
772
00:43:43,972 --> 00:43:48,441
Louis
siravo took me down his show.
773
00:43:48,543 --> 00:43:50,310
He was all very fascinated
774
00:43:50,312 --> 00:43:53,746
By these new drugs,
but couldn't replace the u.S.
775
00:43:53,748 --> 00:43:57,717
Supplying cheryl
776
00:43:57,819 --> 00:44:01,737
And funny.
777
00:44:01,773 --> 00:44:03,873
Then he said,
I've got an article.
778
00:44:03,875 --> 00:44:05,942
I want you to
779
00:44:05,944 --> 00:44:10,713
Look at this drug.
780
00:44:10,782 --> 00:44:13,349
And it was the first time
781
00:44:13,351 --> 00:44:17,770
I ever heard the name churchill
782
00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:21,307
Bullshit.
783
00:44:21,376 --> 00:44:26,512
This is
going to be an interesting.
784
00:44:26,581 --> 00:44:27,313
Coming up
785
00:44:27,315 --> 00:44:31,017
On the godfather of fentanyl.
786
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:32,535
George eric marquart
787
00:44:32,537 --> 00:44:34,737
Makes a discovery
that will make the mass
788
00:44:34,739 --> 00:44:37,206
Production
of street fentanyl possible.
789
00:44:37,208 --> 00:44:40,910
For the first time ever.
790
00:44:40,979 --> 00:44:43,346
Suddenly there was a heavy smoke
791
00:44:43,348 --> 00:44:46,249
Pouring from not as a flash,
792
00:44:46,251 --> 00:44:50,303
And I held it up to the light
and I could just get
793
00:44:50,305 --> 00:44:53,306
A glimpse of crystals, pure
794
00:44:53,541 --> 00:44:56,142
Crystals.
795
00:44:56,144 --> 00:44:57,777
And law enforcement is about
796
00:44:57,779 --> 00:45:01,547
To find themselves in a race
against the clock to stop it.
797
00:45:01,616 --> 00:45:02,915
We're going to start fucking
798
00:45:02,917 --> 00:45:06,753
Blanketing the east coast
with fentanyl.
799
00:45:06,838 --> 00:47:13,896
Here we go.
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