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Porn now is a lot more mainstream.
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- Fuck, yeah.
- Yes, yes, yes!
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It's allowed me to
live a really great life.
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- Bam!
- We're performers.
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Just like The Rock and Vin
Diesel are action performers.
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She was beautiful, her scenes
were hot, and she was a party girl.
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The stigma against porn is
kind of what drew me to porn.
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The time in which you
might be stigmatized-
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- by casting someone from the
adult film industry I think is just gone.
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Now you have to bring so much
more to be so much less of a name.
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He was the perfect porn-star.
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There was just
something very innocent-
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- about us getting naked
and having sex on camera.
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That's why I attribute my longevity
to just a lot of classical movies-
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- from the golden era,
and also a lot of mainstream.
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We realize people have
no idea that these are real-
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- flesh and blood
people that're working.
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It's porn.
You're in it. That's it.
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Adult film stars are just that, Stars.
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Most people can name one porn-star,
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- and everybody's seen
'em in action at least once,
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- and more than that
if they're being honest.
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That makes adult film stars
celebrities. Take it from me.
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I'm Mr. Skin and I filled
my own internet empire-
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- by sharing naked celebrities
with the world at large.
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And tonight we're gonna meet some of
the greatest adult film stars of all time.
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Now, what makes
them the greatest?
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Is it their looks, their sexual prowess,
their longevity in the industry,
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- their ability to cross
over to the mainstream?
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Or is it a combination
of all of these things?
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Well, everyone on this list
checks many of those boxes-
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- as we salute the most
famous, most fascinating...
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...and all around hottest
adult film stars in history.
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Let's kick it off with some of the
most popular porn-stars of all time.
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When fans name their
favorite adult performers...
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...these names come right off
the tips of everyone's tongues.
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It's a hall of fame hotter than
anything in plain old Hollywood.
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Fuck me.
Yeah. Yeah.
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Tori was a very strong performer
that really kind of blew up very quickly-
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- and became one of those girls who
that year, those two years won everything.
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I know that Tori has won the Back to
Back Female Performer of the Year awards.
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She's kinky and gorgeous.
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You can't get any better than that.
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One of the best natural
bodies in the business.
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Um, and when she's
on sexually, wow.
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Growing up and
being really boyish,
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- I never really imagined
that I would be a model at all.
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Any type of model,
let alone this type.
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This industry really gave me
a chance to be my deviant self.
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Curb your tongue, funny man.
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She was very good,
uh, in front of the camera.
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Like she has that kind
of mainstream believability.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh.
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When I appeared on "Ray Donovan,"
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- um, when I came to set, and
everybody was very welcoming-
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- and very warm and
curious about the industry.
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Ooh.
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Ricky?
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Camera down.
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- Hey!
- Ugh!
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I really feel like women's sexuality
has been lost in the dark ages,
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- and I feel like it's
really starting to evolve.
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I want to leave behind that
empowering feeling for women.
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I want women to know
that it's okay to be sexual.
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I want women to know
that you can be classy-
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- and graceful and elegant and
smart and sophisticated, and a freak.
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Like you don't have
to leave that off the list-
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- in order to be the other things.
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If you have all those things and
you're a freak, you are unstoppable.
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I think Christy is a superstar.
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I don't think there's any question. I think
Christy's a big star for a lot of reasons.
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- First of all...
- She had massive tits.
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And that always helps.
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And they were natural.
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Natural massive tits.
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And that helps ever more.
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How I became a
star in this business-
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- is beyond me,
but when I look back,
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- you had to like me 'cause there were
only four of us to choose from. I was like,
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- the big titted girl next door.
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She was genuinely a very
stunning, beautiful woman,
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- so I don't think it was solely just
'cause there was only a few of them.
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You know, that first time was with Ron
Jeremy, I mean, and it was so porno-y.
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She knew how to
talk dirty during sex.
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She just sort of knew
what was on your mind.
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- Do you wanna fuck me?
- Oh, yeah.
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Do you wanna stick
your cock in my pussy?
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She was a good comedienne.
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She doesn't take
herself too seriously.
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You get your makeup done,
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- you suck a dick,
you'd have a catered lunch.
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So if it was my choice, she probably would've
been my number one pick back in the day.
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She had it all.
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I'm Christy Canyon.
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Back in, back in the day,
goddammit, that meant something.
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It was like the perfect storm.
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She could act,
she wanted to do it,
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- her scenes were good,
she had giant boobs.
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I just always like morphed into
something else in this business.
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I mean, from making films to dancing
to writing my book to radio for ten years,
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- I just showed up, did my job,
had great sex and got my $200-
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- and felt like I owned the world.
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I started doing adult films in 1999.
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You know, in the beginning,
she kind of looked like-
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- a Vietnamese war
vet without makeup.
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You put makeup on her
and she had a soft body-
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- and all natural
and gorgeous boobs.
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Because for so long we really
only exploited the sexuality-
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- of people that had
fake boobs and blonde hair.
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I feel like Tera Patrick was like
just a magnificent supermodel.
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She came off very confident,
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- and like her body and her
gorgeousness matched it.
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You know, we never really stayed in the
adult bubble when we were marketing her.
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We thought we can get
her out there to everybody.
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This girl is somebody that everybody
will love, and everybody did.
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She was on the cover of
"FHM" and the cover of "Maxim"-
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- and all the men's magazines.
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When I started independently,
I did a lot of gonzo movies,
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- and I remember fans always saying,
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- oh my gosh, why are
you doing Gonzo movies?
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You should be doing
these like big features.
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And I was like,
are you kidding me?
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I just wanna go and have sex.
It really was about the sex.
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I think I was one of
her first Girl/Girl scenes,
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- so I was just more nervous
on the fact of, you know,
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- she's Tera Patrick, and she's
so much taller than me, too.
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Like my face was at her vagina.
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What I liked about working with Vivid
was it was the first time where I actually-
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- completely got creative control over
everything I wanted to do in a movie.
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She's bright and she's articulate,
and she's very creative.
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Ooh, yeah, right.
Uh, yeah, you're on my clit.
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But I've been asked, would
you ever come back to porn?
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What if someone just dropped
a million dollars right there-
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- and said, you and Rocco can
have sex in Egypt on the pyramids.
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I still wouldn't do it.
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There was only so far I could go,
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- and I feel like ten years
is a good amount of time-
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- and a long time to
be in the porn business.
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Seka is amazing.
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She's my all time favorite
actress of that era.
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She's very glamorous.
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She was strictly business.
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All business.
Very smart girl.
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She kind of reminded me like of a
trashy version of Marilyn Monroe.
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Would you like to suck
on my tits, huh, right there?
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Ooh.
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What made me different
than anybody else at the time?
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For one thing,
I was the first platinum blonde.
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I mean, there were other blondes,
but not screaming blonde hair.
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She was working at a porn store,
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- and she was watching the
porn and thought to herself,
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- I could do way better than this.
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They have really dirty feet, and
they've got pimples on their butts.
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I said, this is really nasty.
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I went and made
my first adult movie,
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- and I don't think there
was even sound at the time.
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It was in color, though.
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I mean, I'm old, but I'm not
that old, so it was in color.
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And having owned
adult bookstores,
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- I knew the stars in the
business when I went on set,
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- and I just felt like a
big piece of meat on a hook.
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"Prisoner of Paradise"
was kind of fun.
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I played a German Nazi bitch
with a really bad German accent.
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But I thought, no,
she's a southern girl.
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How's she gonna do a Nazi?
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But she did.
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Don't you cum in me,
you American swine.
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Don't cum in me,
you American swine.
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♪ Oh, seka ♪
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♪ Tried on some sexy clothes ♪
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The film itself, "Inside Seka,"
was an incredibly popular film-
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- simply because it was one
of the films that had been made-
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- sort of when that porno
chic period was ending.
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And the reason why they were so important
is because they were star-centric.
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Seka has sex with
about 20 different guys.
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She also was given
$10,000 as her pay.
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Around 1982,
I decided to stop performing.
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AIDS was starting to become
a real big issue for me.
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I'd worked for "Club" magazine
after that for about ten years-
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- and I traveled around
the world stripping,
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- and I had a great time and
made a butt-load of money.
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I always thought she looked like
Raquel Welch when she was younger.
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So she was beautiful, her scenes
were hot, and she was a party girl.
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That's a really good combination,
for a superstar.
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She wasn't about making movies.
She was about fucking.
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She would show up and just want
to have sex, and do her best at that.
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We can lay music over this, right?
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- Yeah.
- Great.
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You don't mind just fucking me.
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Action.
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The pickin's weren't like it is today.
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It's not like now where the beautiful
hot chicks are a dime a dozen.
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So I was fresh meat.
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I was excited about my work.
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January of '89 I had my
first contract with Vivid-
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- on the back of a cocktail
napkin at the Tropicana.
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It was that simple.
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Tori Welles was one of the first
home video stars of her era.
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She was then contracted with Vivid,
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- who loaned her out to Andrew
Blake to make "Night Trips."
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The idea of "Night Trips" basically
came from my art direction-
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- and fashion design background.
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And, uh, I just wanted to make the
most beautiful movies that I could-
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- with the most beautiful talent
that was available at the time.
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He really made her the star like putting
her in almost every single scene.
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It was one of a kind, and it was the most
beautiful porn every made at that time.
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She was like pure
sex and a mile wide.
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It was very trans-formative during that
period, and she was at the right time,
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- the right place, with the right people.
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The success of "Night Trips" it
just happened before my eyes,
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- probably because of the beauty,
and sexual prowess of Tori Welles.
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I made a name accidentally, but
because of the drug addiction-
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- and because of the felonies,
and because of things like that,
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- you're not always able to move on,
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- you know, so you come back
to the adult tit, so to speak.
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I mean, I had gone from being
Tori Welles to like being a P.A.
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It's like talk about humiliating.
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So, you know, some of it was good,
and some of it was bad, you know.
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Some of it was stupid.
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You know, you don't
get into this business if,
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- you know, you're completely
got your shit together.
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You just don't, and I don't
care what anybody says.
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Uh, I actually started working at
Hooters when I was 17 years old.
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You were supposed to be 18,
but I kind of was naturally big.
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Somebody was trying to scout me.
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They were like,
why haven't you done "Playboy"?
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And I was like,
I'd rather do porn.
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And I flew out to L.A.
Literally it was on a Friday,
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- and by the time
I came home Sunday,
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I had a signed contract
with Digital Playground.
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She was almost a star from
the moment we signed her.
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So it wasn't so much a matter
of making Jesse Jane a star.
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It was just a matter
of showing the world.
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And at the time, Seymore Butts
had his show, "Family Business,"
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- so he followed me around
like a little puppy dog.
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I have finally tracked you down.
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Do you know how many
times I have seen you?
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Every time you catch my eye,
and I wanna zoom up over to you,
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- but you disappear
as quick as you appear.
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And now that I just saw you, I just feel like,
I just felt like I just had to like get you-
00:14:05.503 --> 00:14:07.481
- while I knew you were cornered.
Are you planning on...
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Honey, I need you to do an interview.
Come do an interview.
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And then from then, they were
like, yep, she's made for porn.
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She's definitely, you know what?
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We made a right decision.
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It's mine to ride
when I'm fucking you.
00:14:18.266 --> 00:14:19.848
Oh, yes.
00:14:20.059 --> 00:14:22.050
I want the whole package.
I want it all.
00:14:22.270 --> 00:14:24.307
I wanna be the next star.
00:14:24.522 --> 00:14:25.939
Like the team
that I had behind me,
00:14:26.023 --> 00:14:27.918
- like the marketing and
everything was genius.
00:14:27.942 --> 00:14:29.853
Marketing her was simple.
00:14:30.069 --> 00:14:32.857
I mean, one image would
elicit so many responses-
00:14:33.072 --> 00:14:35.406
- from the media, and then
once people met her in person,
00:14:35.575 --> 00:14:36.992
- you know,
she never disappointed.
00:14:37.034 --> 00:14:40.743
I saw her do a Girl/Girl in the
"Pirates" movie that was really intense.
00:14:40.955 --> 00:14:44.914
It was basically like sex fighting,
and I've never seen anything like that.
00:14:45.126 --> 00:14:46.311
- Fuck, yeah?
- I Wanna kiss you.
00:14:46.335 --> 00:14:47.996
- Yeah?
- Slap me harder.
00:14:48.212 --> 00:14:50.544
Yeah?
Yeah?
00:14:55.761 --> 00:14:58.053
I think that's sort of the
quintessential barbie almost.
00:14:58.180 --> 00:15:00.222
Barbie's been everything.
She's been an astronaut.
00:15:00.391 --> 00:15:02.382
She's been, she's been
everything in between.
00:15:02.602 --> 00:15:06.391
So, yeah, there you go,
The Ultimate Porn Barbie.
00:15:06.606 --> 00:15:10.856
It's all I wanted. Like I wanted to be known
as the sex symbol you'll always remember.
00:15:11.068 --> 00:15:14.445
That when I get out of the business,
you'll still know the name Jesse Jane.
00:15:16.616 --> 00:15:20.450
The average lifespan of an
adult female performer's career-
00:15:20.661 --> 00:15:23.907
- is less than two years,
but this next group of stars-
00:15:24.123 --> 00:15:27.995
- have careers that span from 20
to over 30 years.
00:15:29.754 --> 00:15:31.961
Now, why have these
knockouts lasted in an industry-
00:15:32.173 --> 00:15:35.040
- that always looks
for the next big thing?
00:15:35.259 --> 00:15:37.045
Because these are
the golden goddesses-
00:15:37.261 --> 00:15:39.844
- whose beauty, passion,
and raw sexuality-
00:15:40.056 --> 00:15:43.594
- transcends all elements,
including time.
00:15:45.645 --> 00:15:49.266
One of the reasons for my
longevity is I just would not leave-
00:15:49.482 --> 00:15:51.357
- when they all wanted
me to after five years.
00:15:51.567 --> 00:15:53.399
Once I hit 30,
they sort of, I mean,
00:15:53.611 --> 00:15:56.069
- I got the AVN Lifetime
Achievement Award in 1989.
00:15:56.280 --> 00:15:57.989
It's like you trying
to tell me something?
00:16:01.243 --> 00:16:05.403
When you watch her
fuck on film, it is genuine.
00:16:05.623 --> 00:16:07.434
She also just has that
something, that star quality.
00:16:07.458 --> 00:16:11.201
Nina Hartley really resonates
with so many people-
00:16:11.420 --> 00:16:14.333
- that have become her
ardent fans over the years-
00:16:14.548 --> 00:16:21.135
- because she's so accessible, and
she's so honest, and she's so fearless.
00:16:21.347 --> 00:16:26.052
I've been able to maintain a 30-year-plus
career because I basically love the work.
00:16:26.268 --> 00:16:28.930
But the first time
I saw sex onscreen-
00:16:29.146 --> 00:16:33.265
- my inner cookie monster
just said: "Me want do that."
00:16:33.484 --> 00:16:36.351
Like she had a, uh, kind of
a cameo in "Boogie Nights"-
00:16:36.570 --> 00:16:39.312
- that like she really
showed what she's made of-
00:16:39.532 --> 00:16:41.468
- when she does a little
bit more mainstream stuff.
00:16:41.492 --> 00:16:43.779
She played William Macy's wife.
00:16:43.994 --> 00:16:47.328
She was kind of a sexual
free spirit in the movie.
00:16:47.540 --> 00:16:50.328
She cuckolded him
many, many times.
00:16:50.543 --> 00:16:52.625
What the fuck are you doing?
00:16:54.171 --> 00:16:56.037
What the fuck does
it look like I'm doing?
00:16:56.257 --> 00:16:57.292
Can you close the door?
00:16:57.508 --> 00:16:59.044
That's my wife, you asshole.
00:16:59.260 --> 00:17:01.467
For a sex worker,
when they try to go out-
00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:04.717
- and give sex education,
to be taken seriously,
00:17:04.932 --> 00:17:07.469
- I think no one is taken
more seriously than Nina.
00:17:07.685 --> 00:17:10.973
There's her vagina,
her urethra, and her clit.
00:17:11.188 --> 00:17:13.105
So how can I be a feminist
and be a sex worker?
00:17:13.315 --> 00:17:15.352
The bottom line is
my body, my rules.
00:17:15.568 --> 00:17:19.561
And the message on that was
whatever you wanna do is okay.
00:17:19.780 --> 00:17:21.896
That women should not be judged-
00:17:22.116 --> 00:17:24.403
- for being in this
business and being on set-
00:17:24.618 --> 00:17:26.859
- and having sex with a
different person every day.
00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:31.207
The energy coming at me, the laws
coming at me from both the religious right-
00:17:31.375 --> 00:17:34.043
- and the so-called feminist
left are exactly the same.
00:17:34.086 --> 00:17:35.372
They're prohibitionary.
00:17:35.588 --> 00:17:38.275
Um, one doesn't want me to have an
abortion, and one does not want me to sell-
00:17:38.299 --> 00:17:40.757
- the services of my vulva for money.
00:17:40.968 --> 00:17:42.675
I'm a Trojan horse for queer culture.
00:17:42.887 --> 00:17:45.254
I'm a bisexual,
I am kinky and all these things,
00:17:45.473 --> 00:17:47.680
- but I dress up normal,
I look very straight,
00:17:47.892 --> 00:17:51.217
- and my most fun times
are when I get my face-
00:17:51.437 --> 00:17:53.178
- between the legs
of a gay-for-pay girl-
00:17:53.397 --> 00:17:54.624
- and get a real response out of her.
00:17:54.648 --> 00:17:56.685
It's like, yes, I am that good.
00:18:01.447 --> 00:18:03.814
Her being with wicked for so long-
00:18:04.033 --> 00:18:09.030
- was a lot of the reason for the
longevity in her career, and her evolution.
00:18:09.246 --> 00:18:13.706
I think she's hotter now
than she was 15 years ago.
00:18:13.918 --> 00:18:17.206
But then when you go
beyond her physical aspects,
00:18:17.421 --> 00:18:19.958
- she's a good voice and
an advocate for our industry.
00:18:20.174 --> 00:18:24.046
Because Jessica has been in,
so many blockbuster adult movies,
00:18:24.261 --> 00:18:28.588
- she's one of the few modern adult stars
recognizable to the average consumer.
00:18:31.936 --> 00:18:33.176
Oh, fuck.
00:18:33.395 --> 00:18:34.706
I was a stripper.
00:18:34.730 --> 00:18:42.276
I had the luck to run into Blondage,
which was Janine and Julia Ann.
00:18:42.488 --> 00:18:45.731
And I saw them onstage
and something clicked.
00:18:45.950 --> 00:18:47.281
Yeah.
00:18:47.493 --> 00:18:52.070
A few people from wicked called me,
and then I agreed to sign with them.
00:18:52.289 --> 00:18:56.035
And I also came to realize that the more
I personally have to do with the movie,
00:18:56.252 --> 00:18:58.289
- the happier I am with the outcome.
00:19:05.010 --> 00:19:09.011
So she won Best Actress, and won
this great Hardcore Scene Award.
00:19:09.223 --> 00:19:13.845
And I think that defines
Jessica along the way as well.
00:19:14.061 --> 00:19:19.055
Even at adult star signings, women
are getting in line and telling her-
00:19:19.275 --> 00:19:22.142
- their sex concerns
and issues and problems.
00:19:22.361 --> 00:19:29.699
And then they started asking me
for sex advice, so I saw this opening-
00:19:29.910 --> 00:19:34.370
- for a different kind of sex-ed,
or a different kind of instructional.
00:19:34.582 --> 00:19:36.949
Jessica drake is unique.
00:19:37.167 --> 00:19:40.576
For one thing, DVD sales are dying,
and her movies still sell great.
00:19:40.796 --> 00:19:42.503
She's a spokesperson for Wicked,
00:19:42.715 --> 00:19:45.457
- she's a spokesperson
for the entire adult industry.
00:19:45.676 --> 00:19:47.667
She's a successful sex educator,
00:19:47.887 --> 00:19:49.489
- has had a ton of
mainstream appearances,
00:19:49.513 --> 00:19:53.173
- and, oh, by the way, still has time,
for all her philanthropy.
00:19:53.392 --> 00:19:56.851
So she's truly unique
amongst today's stars.
00:20:07.197 --> 00:20:09.426
Working with her, the scenes
were over way too quickly,
00:20:09.450 --> 00:20:10.760
- and then, of course,
I'm masturbating in my car-
00:20:10.784 --> 00:20:11.970
- thinking about her driving home.
00:20:11.994 --> 00:20:14.986
But, PFST, sex with Kylie?
Perfect.
00:20:15.205 --> 00:20:19.494
She's just such a strong,
powerful, um, artistic,
00:20:19.710 --> 00:20:21.246
- and visionary woman in my mind.
00:20:21.462 --> 00:20:23.565
You know, if she wanted to
come back and do films now,
00:20:23.589 --> 00:20:26.172
- which I would absolutely
be there if she would,
00:20:26.383 --> 00:20:29.091
- she could and she would kill it-
00:20:29.303 --> 00:20:32.341
- just as if it was 10 or
15 or even 20 years ago.
00:20:33.807 --> 00:20:36.517
So I suppose you could say I
started kind of in this business,
00:20:36.727 --> 00:20:39.768
- but not in this business when I
worked in a video store in San Diego,
00:20:39.980 --> 00:20:44.725
- and I was in charge
of ordering adult movies.
00:20:44.944 --> 00:20:48.256
And they said, okay, this is randy west
you're gonna be working with him, I'm like,
00:20:48.280 --> 00:20:49.655
- yeah, okay, I know who you are.
00:20:49.698 --> 00:20:52.110
And I was extremely nervous.
00:20:52.284 --> 00:20:55.443
I never thought in a million years
that I would win best new starlet.
00:20:55.663 --> 00:20:57.140
I was thrilled that I was nominated.
00:20:57.164 --> 00:20:58.370
Kylie Ireland.
00:21:00.793 --> 00:21:04.244
And I have to thank all the
people that have believed in me.
00:21:04.463 --> 00:21:07.672
It was '95 maybe that I signed
a contract with Sin City.
00:21:07.883 --> 00:21:09.089
We started shooting movies,
00:21:09.301 --> 00:21:13.135
- and we were supposed to do like
basically I think it was a movie a month.
00:21:13.347 --> 00:21:15.088
And suddenly none of us shot anything.
00:21:15.307 --> 00:21:19.050
I decided I was gonna
go to small claims court.
00:21:19.269 --> 00:21:24.772
I didn't realize at this point that that's
where "Judge Judy" picked up their cases.
00:21:24.984 --> 00:21:28.976
You are about to enter the
courtroom of judge Judith Sheindlin.
00:21:29.196 --> 00:21:31.654
Kylie Ireland is an adult movie star.
00:21:31.865 --> 00:21:34.277
She's suing this producer
for breach of contract.
00:21:34.493 --> 00:21:36.575
- She's not some airhead.
- Thank you.
00:21:36.787 --> 00:21:38.698
And I'm awarding
$5,000 to the plaintiff.
00:21:38.914 --> 00:21:41.155
Remember, there was
no internet at the time.
00:21:41.375 --> 00:21:43.912
Adult stars didn't
end up on reality shows.
00:21:44.128 --> 00:21:46.244
That catapulted her to another level.
00:21:46.463 --> 00:21:48.170
She was already popular,
but now she's,
00:21:48.382 --> 00:21:52.090
- mainstream people are going, well,
who's this women on "judge Judy"?
00:21:52.302 --> 00:21:54.043
She's incredible behind the camera.
00:21:54.263 --> 00:21:55.949
That's when I started
doing production design.
00:21:55.973 --> 00:21:58.385
I just always wanted to say,
I won art direction,
00:21:58.600 --> 00:22:02.343
- and that didn't happen
until we did "Star Wars XXX."
00:22:04.106 --> 00:22:07.519
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
00:22:07.735 --> 00:22:09.225
My life is so weird.
00:22:09.445 --> 00:22:11.172
Sometimes I just sit here
and I go, my life is so strange.
00:22:11.196 --> 00:22:13.696
How bizarre is my life that this
is what I'm doing right now?
00:22:16.326 --> 00:22:19.489
Up till now, we've met some
the greatest female stars-
00:22:19.705 --> 00:22:21.161
- of all time.
00:22:21.373 --> 00:22:24.699
But you may be asking yourself,
where are the men?
00:22:24.918 --> 00:22:26.784
Okay, let's bring on the biggest studs,
00:22:27.004 --> 00:22:30.793
- in every sense, in the
history of the adult business.
00:22:31.008 --> 00:22:33.249
We start with john C. Holmes,
00:22:33.469 --> 00:22:37.133
- whose claim to fame
rested between his legs.
00:22:37.347 --> 00:22:40.840
- Are you really twin brothers?
- No, not really.
00:22:41.060 --> 00:22:42.846
Same father, different mothers.
00:22:43.062 --> 00:22:45.415
Oh, what a mess. Will someone come
here and change the sheet here?
00:22:45.439 --> 00:22:46.645
Oh, this is disgusting.
00:22:46.857 --> 00:22:47.959
Oh, that's the same hand,
isn't it?
00:22:47.983 --> 00:22:49.314
- Yeah.
- Oh, god.
00:22:49.526 --> 00:22:52.439
John Holmes definitely
impacted pop culture.
00:22:52.654 --> 00:22:55.817
And especially in
the '70s, he was it.
00:22:56.033 --> 00:22:58.240
He was like a sight to see.
00:22:58.452 --> 00:22:59.658
14 inches.
00:22:59.870 --> 00:23:01.120
And they all wanted to see it.
00:23:01.288 --> 00:23:02.653
That's what John was.
00:23:02.873 --> 00:23:04.034
He was a freak.
00:23:04.249 --> 00:23:07.335
I was sitting there editing, and my
partner comes out and he says, Bob,
00:23:07.377 --> 00:23:09.169
- you gotta come in
and see this guy's dick.
00:23:09.379 --> 00:23:11.837
Wow!
00:23:12.049 --> 00:23:17.756
I said, man, that's the last thing I
wanna do is see a tall skinny guy's dick.
00:23:17.971 --> 00:23:21.430
I can't paint and I can't
draw and I can't sculpt.
00:23:21.642 --> 00:23:26.227
So I have to have some outlet
for my fake artistic qualities.
00:23:26.438 --> 00:23:27.832
My name is Johnny Wadd.
00:23:27.856 --> 00:23:29.312
I'm a private detective.
00:23:29.525 --> 00:23:31.061
It was one of those slow days-
00:23:31.276 --> 00:23:34.064
- where there was very little
money and very little pussy.
00:23:38.283 --> 00:23:43.027
Basically they get involved
with me, for one of one reason.
00:23:43.247 --> 00:23:46.615
And, uh, it doesn't go beyond that.
00:23:46.834 --> 00:23:50.493
He quite literally didn't have to
do anything, but be John Holmes.
00:23:50.712 --> 00:23:52.171
He came onto camera
and he sat down-
00:23:52.297 --> 00:23:55.210
- and he leaned back and
the girl did what she did.
00:23:55.425 --> 00:23:57.632
He would say,
how much film you got?
00:23:57.845 --> 00:24:03.306
And have my cameraman could
count down, and he could cum on cue.
00:24:03.517 --> 00:24:05.142
He was that good
back in the early days.
00:24:05.352 --> 00:24:06.934
Not so much later.
00:24:07.146 --> 00:24:11.022
Why do you stay in the bathroom,
for five hours at a time on sets?
00:24:11.233 --> 00:24:12.940
I don't know.
It's a shitty habit.
00:24:13.152 --> 00:24:14.796
There was a time when
he was very troubled.
00:24:14.820 --> 00:24:16.652
He'd been using drugs a lot,
00:24:16.864 --> 00:24:20.573
- and the reason we shot
"Prisoner of Paradise"-
00:24:20.742 --> 00:24:23.359
- on Kauai was because I thought-
00:24:23.579 --> 00:24:27.742
- if we can get him away from Los
Angeles, it might help him, and it did.
00:24:27.958 --> 00:24:29.369
His goal in life was just to see-
00:24:29.585 --> 00:24:32.872
- how many people he could
fuck over as fast as he could-
00:24:33.088 --> 00:24:35.625
- and get out of town
without getting killed.
00:24:35.841 --> 00:24:37.127
On the wonderland murders,
00:24:37.342 --> 00:24:41.547
Eddie Nash was this very big drug
dealer, and john had hooked up.
00:24:41.763 --> 00:24:43.158
Uh, they heisted all the money
and all the drugs from Eddie,
00:24:43.182 --> 00:24:44.599
- and Eddie found out it was John-
00:24:44.641 --> 00:24:46.473
- who got him in trouble,
00:24:46.685 --> 00:24:50.019
- and Eddie said, John's dead.
00:24:50.230 --> 00:24:54.519
He's like running around
the country evading police.
00:24:54.735 --> 00:24:56.567
They catch him Florida.
00:24:56.778 --> 00:24:58.320
He's in jail and there's petty theft-
00:24:58.405 --> 00:25:01.739
- and there's burglary and
then there's drug dealing-
00:25:01.950 --> 00:25:04.179
- and there's pimping and
then he's prostituting himself.
00:25:04.203 --> 00:25:05.989
He's prostituting his girlfriend.
00:25:06.205 --> 00:25:08.080
He's all over the place
doing whatever he can-
00:25:08.207 --> 00:25:10.143
- to basically keep this
habit alive that he has-
00:25:10.167 --> 00:25:12.784
- that I don't think he
ever quite overcame.
00:25:13.003 --> 00:25:15.085
We the jury,
in the above entitled action,
00:25:15.297 --> 00:25:18.672
- find the defendant, John Curtis
Holmes, not guilty of murder.
00:25:18.884 --> 00:25:22.843
When it came out that he did
have AIDS, the shit hit the fan.
00:25:23.055 --> 00:25:25.888
In the industry that's pretty
much the worst thing you can do.
00:25:26.099 --> 00:25:28.890
You're jeopardizing people's lives,
and especially back then.
00:25:29.102 --> 00:25:30.467
AIDS was a death sentence.
00:25:30.687 --> 00:25:32.098
It wasn't something you managed.
00:25:32.314 --> 00:25:34.726
He just told them he had the flu.
00:25:34.942 --> 00:25:37.058
Typical of John to lie to everybody.
00:25:37.277 --> 00:25:39.314
Thank god none of them got sick.
00:25:39.529 --> 00:25:46.367
He was the ultimate gigolo,
The ultimate Playboy.
00:25:47.621 --> 00:25:51.659
The ultimate con man,
and that's what he was.
00:25:51.875 --> 00:25:53.661
Let's go.
00:25:53.877 --> 00:25:56.209
I want you to brief me
before I get involved in this.
00:25:56.421 --> 00:25:57.752
Yes, sir.
00:26:03.095 --> 00:26:04.656
He's a consummate professional.
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:06.512
He's one of the few guys-
00:26:06.723 --> 00:26:10.591
- that's had a great balance
between, um, chemistry-
00:26:10.811 --> 00:26:12.893
- and, and raw sexual energy.
00:26:13.105 --> 00:26:16.105
You know, like he's found a way to
be a black man and not come on set-
00:26:16.316 --> 00:26:19.104
- with like, you know,
a bunch of chains and jewelry-
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:20.736
- and like an entourage, you know.
00:26:20.821 --> 00:26:25.447
He comes in, he has a hard dick,
he lays it down and, you know,
00:26:25.659 --> 00:26:28.026
- he leaves a smile on your face.
00:26:28.245 --> 00:26:29.973
And it's so funny,
'cause he's the sweetest guy.
00:26:29.997 --> 00:26:31.453
Like he's just really mellow,
00:26:31.665 --> 00:26:34.578
- and then all of a sudden,
he pulls out this monster.
00:26:34.793 --> 00:26:37.063
Very early out of college
I got into finance,
00:26:37.087 --> 00:26:41.205
- and so I became the proverbial
wall street stockbroker, for six years.
00:26:41.425 --> 00:26:44.041
The broker that trained
me brought me to a party,
00:26:44.261 --> 00:26:46.468
- which was a 19-on-1 gangbang.
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:50.093
So I got kind of used to
having sex in front of people-
00:26:50.309 --> 00:26:52.095
- at a very early
part of my adulthood.
00:26:52.311 --> 00:26:53.955
That's why a lot of
people buy his stuff,
00:26:53.979 --> 00:26:57.308
- 'cause they're like, I wanna
watch Lex specifically fuck girls.
00:27:01.320 --> 00:27:05.738
It was just me being myself, but
the key ingredient was the casting.
00:27:05.949 --> 00:27:08.816
Always the absolute
best female talent-
00:27:09.036 --> 00:27:10.786
- available at the moment
we were shooting.
00:27:10.954 --> 00:27:13.491
I think that he is the most
successful black performer ever-
00:27:13.707 --> 00:27:17.371
- because he's just so
consistent and so driven.
00:27:19.171 --> 00:27:23.085
I won Male Performer of The
Year 2000, 2002, and 2003,
00:27:23.300 --> 00:27:25.337
- and one of the things
I've gotten out of it-
00:27:25.552 --> 00:27:28.510
- that has been perhaps
more impactful in my life-
00:27:28.722 --> 00:27:31.259
- has been that I've been
the only black performer-
00:27:31.475 --> 00:27:34.846
- to have won Performer of
The Year Award male or female.
00:27:35.062 --> 00:27:38.600
He's probably one of the few
successful black performers-
00:27:38.815 --> 00:27:42.774
- that owns his own company,
and to me, that was very inspiring.
00:27:42.986 --> 00:27:47.008
For Lex to take his name, and then
spin off and do other things, you know.
00:27:47.032 --> 00:27:49.023
He has his own podcast.
00:27:49.201 --> 00:27:52.617
He has his own talk show,
you know, he has his own toy line.
00:27:52.829 --> 00:27:56.280
I'm in my 15th year in
the major leagues, right,
00:27:56.500 --> 00:28:02.123
- and it's not really a case where I
feel that I'm getting tired of performing,
00:28:02.339 --> 00:28:05.505
- you know, despite the fact that I
may now be more than twice the age-
00:28:05.717 --> 00:28:07.278
- of some of the youngest
performers I work with.
00:28:07.302 --> 00:28:10.589
I love the fact that,
you know, I get to do this.
00:28:10.806 --> 00:28:14.844
And there's actually a renewed vigor,
for performance that I'm undergoing-
00:28:15.060 --> 00:28:19.850
- because I've gotten to the point where
I realize there's only a few guys globally-
00:28:20.065 --> 00:28:23.940
- that get a chance to perform,
and be regarded as the main dudes.
00:28:24.152 --> 00:28:29.155
I appreciate being a performer more
now than when I started my career.
00:28:29.366 --> 00:28:34.322
Yeah, when I started in Europe, so
the three first years I did only in France.
00:28:34.538 --> 00:28:35.903
So I had to make a choice.
00:28:36.123 --> 00:28:38.660
I was done with school.
What do I do now?
00:28:38.875 --> 00:28:41.207
Like am I starting being a teacher-
00:28:41.420 --> 00:28:45.379
- or if I do that, I'm gonna
have to really focus on that.
00:28:45.590 --> 00:28:49.295
He's just very controlling,
but passionate in the same way.
00:28:49.511 --> 00:28:55.301
He's one of the few men that I will let be
rough with me, and take me into that level.
00:28:55.517 --> 00:28:58.351
I think that he's the perfect performer,
for every girl to work with-
00:28:58.395 --> 00:29:02.896
- because he teaches you a lot about
yourself while working with him.
00:29:03.108 --> 00:29:05.891
People started doing like the
rough stuff, and the gonzo things,
00:29:06.111 --> 00:29:09.320
- and he kind of like
threw himself in headfirst.
00:29:15.620 --> 00:29:19.016
Once the sex started, it just
like seemed to go really naturally-
00:29:19.040 --> 00:29:21.372
- and it was easy to
just like tell him like,
00:29:21.585 --> 00:29:24.247
- oh, I have no limits.
You can do whatever you want.
00:29:24.463 --> 00:29:27.125
It was really cool.
It was like a roller-coaster.
00:29:29.176 --> 00:29:32.714
- Oh, fuck, yes. Yes, yes.
- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:32.929 --> 00:29:36.171
Uh, the first time I had sex with
Manuel, I was super nervous.
00:29:36.391 --> 00:29:40.638
I was shaking and he had to keep asking me if
I was okay and if I could go through with this.
00:29:40.854 --> 00:29:42.915
I was like, yeah, you just don't
understand you're a huge deal.
00:29:42.939 --> 00:29:46.307
Like when I was 18, I was
watching you fuck other women.
00:29:46.526 --> 00:29:48.358
I'm gonna cum.
00:29:48.570 --> 00:29:52.904
I've done so many scenes with
Manuel, it kind of blurs together.
00:29:53.116 --> 00:29:56.859
At the point, you know when you're gonna
die, and your life flashes before your eyes?
00:29:57.078 --> 00:30:00.370
It would just be lots of dicks,
but Manuel would be in there a lot.
00:30:00.582 --> 00:30:04.120
So I won AVN male performer
of the year six times.
00:30:04.336 --> 00:30:08.580
Uh, one of them I think was, uh,
foreign performer of the year.
00:30:08.798 --> 00:30:10.414
Like it's like basketball.
00:30:10.634 --> 00:30:12.124
Like everyone can play basketball.
00:30:12.344 --> 00:30:14.381
Not everyone's gonna be Kobe.
00:30:21.394 --> 00:30:23.135
We're talking about
good sex down here.
00:30:23.355 --> 00:30:25.562
Rocco's up there, you know.
00:30:25.774 --> 00:30:29.186
Just like doing all sorts of
crazy passionate, hard fucking.
00:30:29.402 --> 00:30:33.191
And my first movie with john
was "Buttman Ultimate Workout."
00:30:33.406 --> 00:30:35.397
John, you know
what kind of girl I like.
00:30:35.617 --> 00:30:38.450
I like a girl with the big,
round, culo ass.
00:30:40.330 --> 00:30:43.789
This is the most
successful series I ever done.
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:49.210
I mean, john for me
has really been a mentor.
00:30:55.762 --> 00:31:02.262
I think every male performer has
Rocco in some way as a role model.
00:31:02.477 --> 00:31:05.219
He just exudes sexuality,
00:31:05.438 --> 00:31:07.805
- and you can't put your
finger on what that is, right?
00:31:08.024 --> 00:31:10.436
That's just a thing.
That's a DNA thing.
00:31:10.652 --> 00:31:14.402
When Rocco came along, you realized,
oh, I can get a phenomenal sex scene.
00:31:14.614 --> 00:31:16.821
He will make this girl
look really, really good.
00:31:17.033 --> 00:31:19.195
He'll make her look better
than in any other movie.
00:31:19.411 --> 00:31:26.203
Since I was very teeny, very
young, I had this kind of fire inside.
00:31:26.418 --> 00:31:32.121
I remember I was 13, jerking off, jerking
off, jerking off, and the doctor, I remember,
00:31:32.340 --> 00:31:35.666
- was very angry, told me,
hey, man, stop the jerk off.
00:31:35.885 --> 00:31:38.092
Otherwise you never,
you will never get better.
00:31:38.305 --> 00:31:42.048
His performance was 30
different than anything else.
00:31:42.267 --> 00:31:45.931
He never broke eye contact.
00:31:51.151 --> 00:31:54.602
Well, my first Boy/Girl scene was
with the infamous Rocco Siffredi.
00:31:54.821 --> 00:32:00.236
I didn't know his type of scenes,
how aggressive they are.
00:32:00.452 --> 00:32:05.237
Speaking to me in Italian. It was great
'cause he, he, he made love to me.
00:32:05.457 --> 00:32:12.665
You know, I did two movies in french,
which was not porn, it was mainstream.
00:32:12.881 --> 00:32:14.497
It was an incredible experience.
00:32:14.716 --> 00:32:19.217
Catherine come back with
the movie, for me as main star.
00:32:19.429 --> 00:32:24.465
A gay guy prostitute for the first
time make love with a woman.
00:32:24.684 --> 00:32:26.300
One of the best
experience in my life.
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:33.516
Elegance, style, grace,
sexuality, intensity.
00:32:33.735 --> 00:32:35.021
I love that guy.
00:32:35.236 --> 00:32:39.154
And when you fuck a woman,
you put your soul.
00:32:39.366 --> 00:32:41.116
You don't fuck the girl
just with the dick.
00:32:41.159 --> 00:32:45.827
Woman, you need to fuck them in the brain
if you want to bring something out of them.
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:47.575
Oh, my god.
00:32:49.918 --> 00:32:52.706
In many ways both
positive and negative,
00:32:52.921 --> 00:32:57.381
- the adult industry mirrors
mainstream entertainment.
00:32:57.592 --> 00:32:59.879
Like Hollywood,
the adult film industry-
00:33:00.095 --> 00:33:03.963
- has been correctly criticized
for its lack of diversity.
00:33:04.182 --> 00:33:08.850
Performers, directors, and producers
of color have been too rare in times past.
00:33:09.062 --> 00:33:13.931
But today, performers of color are
starting to break through more regularly-
00:33:14.150 --> 00:33:18.982
- and controlling their own careers
both in front and behind the camera.
00:33:19.197 --> 00:33:22.189
These next trailblazers
made that possible-
00:33:22.409 --> 00:33:25.951
- by working through the inherent
prejudice in the sex business-
00:33:26.162 --> 00:33:29.996
- and forging successful
and even legendary careers.
00:33:38.174 --> 00:33:44.340
Misty Stone, so she came across as like
funny, interesting, vivacious, and cool.
00:33:44.556 --> 00:33:45.842
Like totally cool.
00:33:46.057 --> 00:33:49.470
And it's really cool to
see a woman of color-
00:33:49.686 --> 00:33:55.689
- in the industry that's not your typical
like 34DD with a gigantic big old booty.
00:33:55.900 --> 00:34:01.399
And she's like petite and
sensual, and just on fire.
00:34:01.614 --> 00:34:03.864
I think I just fell into the adult films.
00:34:03.950 --> 00:34:07.847
After awhile, it became more of a career
decision because I loved it so much,
00:34:07.871 --> 00:34:09.402
- I wanted to be the best at it.
00:34:09.414 --> 00:34:12.782
The "Men In Black" parody,
that movie was amazing.
00:34:13.001 --> 00:34:17.461
The special effects,
the makeup was outrageous.
00:34:17.672 --> 00:34:23.293
So many girls that do Girl/Girl, like not
to spoil the party, are not into Girl/Girl.
00:34:23.511 --> 00:34:28.138
I was so nervous, because, you
know, like she's, she's my mentor like.
00:34:28.349 --> 00:34:30.578
When you kind of get to
work with one of your idols,
00:34:30.602 --> 00:34:33.185
- you're just like,
I hope they're into it.
00:34:33.396 --> 00:34:36.354
By the time we were
like five minutes into it,
00:34:36.566 --> 00:34:40.146
- once we're kissing and stuff,
I felt so there with her.
00:34:40.361 --> 00:34:43.613
She was one of those girls that would
like would flirt before the scene-
00:34:43.698 --> 00:34:46.156
- is in the makeup
chair feeling on you.
00:34:46.409 --> 00:34:48.776
Just really immediately
kind of pulling me in.
00:34:48.995 --> 00:34:53.205
But now in my personal life,
I got to have some dick, baby.
00:34:53.416 --> 00:34:55.532
Oh, I'm gonna cum.
00:34:55.752 --> 00:34:58.164
Being a ebony model
in the business,
00:34:58.379 --> 00:35:01.542
- you kind of have a sort of like
a different journey in a way,
00:35:01.758 --> 00:35:04.090
- you know, because the
opportunities are different.
00:35:04.302 --> 00:35:06.885
You kind of have to really
know how to carry yourself-
00:35:07.096 --> 00:35:09.428
- and know how to present
yourself to the right people,
00:35:09.641 --> 00:35:12.929
- and I feel like misty has done
that from the very beginning.
00:35:13.144 --> 00:35:15.476
When I started, I was
told to follow Misty Stone-
00:35:15.688 --> 00:35:18.851
- as a role model,
and I'm glad that I have.
00:35:19.067 --> 00:35:20.649
It's not based on popularity.
00:35:20.860 --> 00:35:23.192
It's, it's, it's based on
your skin tone, baby.
00:35:23.404 --> 00:35:26.980
Say a new girl coming into the
industry, and she's very dark skinned.
00:35:27.200 --> 00:35:30.066
Well, then you also have another
new girl coming in the industry,
00:35:30.078 --> 00:35:31.764
- and she's a little bit
more lighter skinner.
00:35:31.788 --> 00:35:33.849
Well, guess what?
That lighter skinned young Lady-
00:35:33.873 --> 00:35:36.560
- is gonna get a lot more work
than the darker skinner young Lady,
00:35:36.584 --> 00:35:37.768
- and that's just how it is.
00:35:37.794 --> 00:35:42.079
Now, another example would be,
well, we have this young white girl-
00:35:42.298 --> 00:35:44.380
- who's gonna get
1,500 for this scene,
00:35:44.592 --> 00:35:47.175
- but I think we're gonna give
this young black young Lady-
00:35:47.387 --> 00:35:50.254
- 800 for the scene,
and that's just how it is.
00:35:50.473 --> 00:35:53.928
Even our own black people do
it to us, and that's even sadder.
00:35:54.143 --> 00:35:57.723
That they downgrade us
when they should be uplifting us.
00:35:57.939 --> 00:35:59.350
She's a character.
00:35:59.566 --> 00:36:02.940
I've brought my little sister to a
scene, and it was back in the day.
00:36:03.152 --> 00:36:05.047
It was my first gangbang
I ever did in my whole life.
00:36:05.071 --> 00:36:06.732
I just needed support,
00:36:06.948 --> 00:36:10.907
- and I thought that that's what family's
supposed to do was be there and support you.
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.097
But I don't think they're supposed
to be there and support you-
00:36:13.121 --> 00:36:15.371
- when you're getting
gang-banged by six or seven guys.
00:36:28.136 --> 00:36:32.425
Vanessa being the
first official Latin porn-star.
00:36:32.640 --> 00:36:33.640
Wow.
00:36:33.766 --> 00:36:35.598
She is a true pioneer.
00:36:35.810 --> 00:36:41.893
She is a trailblazing superwoman
that I have just, I can identify with.
00:36:42.108 --> 00:36:46.272
You talk about staying power
and star power, she's, I mean,
00:36:46.487 --> 00:36:50.651
- she might be one of the most,
you know, the more iconic.
00:36:50.867 --> 00:36:53.359
And I guess that's also has
to do with that Latin heat.
00:36:53.578 --> 00:36:55.990
Wild, wild fucking.
00:36:56.205 --> 00:36:58.071
Nice, nice, very nice woman.
00:36:58.291 --> 00:36:59.577
Cubans are wild.
00:36:59.792 --> 00:37:00.792
Mm...
00:37:05.506 --> 00:37:09.090
I guess I was, I was like the first
woman of color in the business.
00:37:09.302 --> 00:37:13.504
They saw that there was a market for
it because I became so popular so fast.
00:37:13.723 --> 00:37:19.347
She had a following from day one,
and she was smart enough to realize it-
00:37:19.562 --> 00:37:23.767
- and she was one of the first
women to get $1,000 a day,
00:37:23.983 --> 00:37:25.894
- which was unheard of at that point.
00:37:26.110 --> 00:37:29.978
Most of the women were working
for 300, 350, in that neighborhood.
00:37:30.198 --> 00:37:32.280
Hey, wait a minute.
00:37:32.492 --> 00:37:37.615
He's your husband, and you've got
five minutes to finish him off and go home.
00:37:37.830 --> 00:37:39.286
I have to go to work.
00:37:39.499 --> 00:37:41.115
I did waitress.
00:37:41.334 --> 00:37:42.334
I did go-go.
00:37:42.543 --> 00:37:44.125
I did stripping.
00:37:44.337 --> 00:37:45.498
I did hooking.
00:37:45.713 --> 00:37:50.294
I did the whole 42nd
street stroll, which was fun.
00:37:50.510 --> 00:37:52.922
My first movie was "China Doll."
00:37:53.137 --> 00:37:56.675
Vanessa Del Rio,
the inventor of the DP.
00:37:56.891 --> 00:38:02.014
I'll take the title, but I'm sure that there
was double penetration going on before me.
00:38:02.230 --> 00:38:04.437
Come on, baby.
Stick it in.
00:38:04.649 --> 00:38:05.649
Come on.
00:38:05.692 --> 00:38:07.228
And I blew the cameraman.
00:38:07.443 --> 00:38:08.808
Ooh!
00:38:09.028 --> 00:38:11.520
In my first movie.
00:38:11.739 --> 00:38:13.525
That's what the '70s was like.
00:38:13.741 --> 00:38:18.702
I liked the seedy environment, and the
way a peep show smelled, you know,
00:38:18.913 --> 00:38:20.495
- with the Clorox and cum.
00:38:24.002 --> 00:38:26.994
The live sex shows
took place at show world.
00:38:27.013 --> 00:38:31.098
David Christopher, I think he had
like a bunch of guys and girls,
00:38:31.309 --> 00:38:34.552
- like couples that wanted
to see a couple fuck.
00:38:34.771 --> 00:38:39.184
Just, you know, being surrounded by a
bunch of gawkers, you know, men and women.
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:43.105
So if you wanna know why my clit was
so big, was because I did body building,
00:38:43.321 --> 00:38:45.187
- and, yes, I did steroids.
00:38:45.406 --> 00:38:48.273
Doing the steroids and the side
effects that's I don't recommend.
00:38:48.493 --> 00:38:52.612
But having a big clit from it, yeah.
What woman wouldn't?
00:38:52.831 --> 00:38:54.225
I mean, it looks like a little dick.
00:38:54.249 --> 00:38:58.793
I suppose it is perverse, letting them
believe I can't speak English and all.
00:38:59.003 --> 00:39:01.210
She would only get
typecast as the, the maid.
00:39:01.422 --> 00:39:04.460
No matter how great she
looked, how glamorous.
00:39:04.676 --> 00:39:06.838
Very early on,
it was a white industry,
00:39:07.053 --> 00:39:08.669
- so here I come
with my, you know,
00:39:08.888 --> 00:39:13.548
- bigger than life like, you know,
big hair, and you know, like that.
00:39:13.768 --> 00:39:17.306
And so I was noted
as first Latina.
00:39:17.522 --> 00:39:18.728
Pretty good, no?
00:39:20.567 --> 00:39:24.027
Vanessa Del Rio is an inspiration
to girls like me in the industry-
00:39:24.195 --> 00:39:28.488
- that are of Latin descent, you know,
because she didn't let that hold her back.
00:39:28.700 --> 00:39:30.065
She owned it.
00:39:33.329 --> 00:39:34.785
Oh, yess, yes, yes.
00:39:34.998 --> 00:39:39.083
Asa Akira is certainly a
character like no other.
00:39:43.006 --> 00:39:48.675
30 my first job in the adult entertainment world
was as a dominatrix when I was 19 years old.
00:39:48.887 --> 00:39:53.513
I was just walking down the street one day,
and this guy just stopped me on the street-
00:39:53.725 --> 00:39:59.554
- and asked me, would you be interested in
being in the adult entertainment industry?
00:39:59.772 --> 00:40:02.230
And I was like, yes.
00:40:04.110 --> 00:40:07.353
And I followed him
upstairs to his dungeon.
00:40:07.572 --> 00:40:10.947
The next day, I started
training to be a dominatrix.
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:12.159
So I'm really lucky.
00:40:12.285 --> 00:40:14.276
I mean, he could have killed me.
00:40:14.495 --> 00:40:15.985
That is her 100% of the time.
00:40:16.205 --> 00:40:18.321
She has no filter.
00:40:18.541 --> 00:40:24.787
She is the beginning of what I feel like what
made, made this business step outside the box.
00:40:25.006 --> 00:40:29.670
In 2013, I signed an exclusive
contract with Wicked Pictures.
00:40:29.886 --> 00:40:35.631
Probably the first girl I signed
that already was a huge star.
00:40:35.850 --> 00:40:41.136
Wicked shoots really beautiful,
high budget, like glamorous stuff.
00:40:44.317 --> 00:40:47.025
So the AVN awards were
one of the few things-
00:40:47.236 --> 00:40:54.199
- I actually knew about porn coming in, so it was
really exciting to be asked to host the event.
00:40:54.410 --> 00:40:58.532
That same night that I hosted the awards,
I won Female Performer of The Year.
00:40:58.748 --> 00:41:00.580
All:
Asa Akira.
00:41:00.792 --> 00:41:02.499
Oh, my god.
Yes.
00:41:02.710 --> 00:41:04.826
I wanted this so fucking bad.
00:41:05.046 --> 00:41:09.582
I got this theory that the reasons
there are never that many Asian girls
00:41:09.801 --> 00:41:13.752
- in the industry at any given
time is 'cause for most of us,
00:41:13.972 --> 00:41:19.057
- like the second our family finds out,
that's it. That's worked out to my advantage.
00:41:19.268 --> 00:41:22.556
Like I got to be in a lot
of movies as the Asian girl.
00:41:22.772 --> 00:41:23.999
And I think that's very wrong.
00:41:24.023 --> 00:41:29.481
I think she is very much, whether she
was Asian or not is an amazing performer.
00:41:29.696 --> 00:41:34.941
And she really is gonna be
one of the last big stars of porn.
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:38.652
Like I said, she would go to
a shoot to do an anal shoot-
00:41:38.871 --> 00:41:41.158
- and end up doing a
gangbang by accident.
00:41:41.374 --> 00:41:43.456
There was a lot of
accidents on her sets,
00:41:43.668 --> 00:41:46.751
- but I guess happy
accidents for the directors.
00:41:46.963 --> 00:41:48.357
You know, like I always tell people
00:41:48.381 --> 00:41:50.873
like I'm the best
case scenario in porn.
00:41:51.092 --> 00:41:54.551
Found love.
I've found a career.
00:41:54.762 --> 00:41:57.299
Um, I've never been
taken advantage of.
00:41:57.515 --> 00:41:59.722
Last year I had a
memoir published.
00:41:59.934 --> 00:42:04.098
Uh, it's titled "insatiable:
Porn a love story."
00:42:04.313 --> 00:42:07.271
And that's like exactly
how I feel about the industry.
00:42:07.483 --> 00:42:10.521
It's, it's, it's been a love story.
00:42:10.737 --> 00:42:13.900
Um, as cheesy as that sounds.
00:42:16.492 --> 00:42:21.077
The modern adult star is a much
different breed than those in the past.
00:42:21.289 --> 00:42:25.408
25 years ago, tattoos
and piercings were taboo.
00:42:25.626 --> 00:42:28.084
Sex acts performed in movies-
00:42:28.296 --> 00:42:32.290
- rarely included bondage,
discipline, or S&M.
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:36.047
Today, some of the
biggest adult stars-
00:42:36.262 --> 00:42:38.720
- are what we might
call alternative.
00:42:38.931 --> 00:42:43.383
But even as the alternative
blends into mainstream,
00:42:43.603 --> 00:42:46.727
- these stars stand out
with their unique styles-
00:42:46.939 --> 00:42:51.566
- and no fears,
no limits approach... To sex.
00:42:56.157 --> 00:42:58.398
- You like my blazer?
- Oh, yeah.
00:42:58.618 --> 00:43:01.280
She was going to
make herself a brand,
00:43:01.496 --> 00:43:04.158
- and she wanted to
shoot hot tattooed girls-
00:43:04.373 --> 00:43:09.459
- and alternative styles, which was very
different from what you were typically seeing.
00:43:09.545 --> 00:43:11.252
Why I think Joanna
is such a big star-
00:43:11.464 --> 00:43:14.422
- is because that she doesn't
try to change her style-
00:43:14.634 --> 00:43:16.195
- where it's like,
well, they're doing that,
00:43:16.219 --> 00:43:17.969
- so we should start
doing that. It's like,
00:43:18.054 --> 00:43:20.638
- no, this is what works for us.
And that's what her fans love.
00:43:20.681 --> 00:43:22.922
Joanna angel has
always been a person-
00:43:23.142 --> 00:43:25.884
- who I've looked
up to in the industry.
00:43:26.104 --> 00:43:28.636
Someone who started her own
business when she was in college.
00:43:28.856 --> 00:43:32.603
I don't think it was me that
actually came up with burning angel,
00:43:32.819 --> 00:43:36.061
- but I did say I wanted some
kind of good girl, bad girl thing.
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.822
I didn't know anything about porn.
I had never watched a porn.
00:43:38.950 --> 00:43:40.406
I knew nothing about the industry.
00:43:40.618 --> 00:43:42.743
I didn't even really know
that porn was an industry.
00:43:42.912 --> 00:43:45.825
I mean,
this was 13 or 14 years ago.
00:43:46.040 --> 00:43:47.874
There was no Twitter,
there was no Instagram.
00:43:48.084 --> 00:43:50.145
You could not just log on
to anywhere on the internet-
00:43:50.169 --> 00:43:52.501
- and find out what
porn-stars do every day.
00:43:52.713 --> 00:43:54.420
So I guess I was the first girl-
00:43:54.632 --> 00:43:57.420
- to have her own
hardcore video porn site.
00:43:57.635 --> 00:43:59.592
So we got a lot of press
when we first started.
00:43:59.804 --> 00:44:04.848
I wasn't expecting to be a figurehead,
for punk and porn and feminism.
00:44:05.059 --> 00:44:06.299
I wanted to do everything,
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.932
- so the first scene I
ever did I had anal sex,
00:44:10.148 --> 00:44:13.065
- and that was only like the third
time I even did it in my whole life.
00:44:14.569 --> 00:44:16.403
It's called: "burning angel.com
- the movie"-
00:44:16.445 --> 00:44:19.187
- here's what happens when
a website becomes a movie.
00:44:19.407 --> 00:44:21.774
I don't know if anyone really got it.
00:44:21.993 --> 00:44:24.951
So Tommy pistol, it was his
first scene and my first scene.
00:44:25.163 --> 00:44:28.246
He kept asking me if,
if he would have to shave-
00:44:28.457 --> 00:44:30.994
- his ass or not
if he did the movie.
00:44:31.210 --> 00:44:33.497
A lot of the sex that we had-
00:44:33.713 --> 00:44:37.206
- was like in places
in new york or Brooklyn,
00:44:37.425 --> 00:44:39.507
- and sometimes they
were out on rooftops-
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:42.427
- or in like in school busses-
00:44:42.638 --> 00:44:45.721
- and with a lot of Hasidic
Jews walking around-
00:44:45.933 --> 00:44:47.475
- wondering what's going on in there?
00:44:47.518 --> 00:44:49.018
Something I really
love about Joanna-
00:44:49.103 --> 00:44:51.970
- is that she has a really
great sense of humor.
00:44:52.190 --> 00:44:56.941
And so she always brings that
piece of herself into her scenes.
00:44:57.153 --> 00:44:59.861
Thank you, kind sir.
And I'll tell you what.
00:45:00.072 --> 00:45:02.313
I'll even let you put it in my butt.
00:45:05.620 --> 00:45:09.662
I've now won an AVN award, for
best sex comedy three times now.
00:45:09.874 --> 00:45:13.037
It's kind of where I've sort of
found my comfort zone in porn.
00:45:13.252 --> 00:45:18.413
She also picked up on it really early in
her career that if she had her own site,
00:45:18.633 --> 00:45:22.834
- that she wanted her sites to be the only
place you could find Joanna angel fucking.
00:45:23.054 --> 00:45:26.718
I really hate the term "Alt Porn,"
00:45:26.933 --> 00:45:31.811
- but I do realize that everything
in porn needs a category.
00:45:31.938 --> 00:45:34.680
I got into porn by
literally weaseling my way-
00:45:34.899 --> 00:45:38.608
- into the porn industry,
and I'm still here.
00:45:38.819 --> 00:45:40.480
Pick up a camera,
shoot something,
00:45:40.696 --> 00:45:42.007
- get it out there, you're in porn.
00:45:42.031 --> 00:45:43.031
There it is.
00:45:44.700 --> 00:45:45.992
Oh, god, I think I'm gonna cum.
00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:47.867
I'm gonna cum.
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:53.616
Skin diamond is easily one of the greatest
crossover, BDSM, and porn performers.
00:45:53.834 --> 00:45:56.121
I think that's probably why
so many people like her-
00:45:56.337 --> 00:45:58.129
- is because she's
not afraid to be herself.
00:45:58.297 --> 00:46:02.633
She's just as good at receiving flogging
and nipple clamps as she is at taking anal.
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:04.171
She's very exotic.
00:46:04.387 --> 00:46:06.003
Like she could be from the future.
00:46:06.222 --> 00:46:07.838
She could be from the past.
00:46:08.057 --> 00:46:09.099
She could be from Pangia.
00:46:09.267 --> 00:46:10.348
I don't know.
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.642
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
00:46:13.854 --> 00:46:15.595
I was born in California,
00:46:15.815 --> 00:46:19.891
- but I moved to Scotland when I was
three because my dad was a missionary.
00:46:20.111 --> 00:46:23.979
I wanted to start modeling nude,
00:46:24.198 --> 00:46:25.484
- which was a big deal,
00:46:25.700 --> 00:46:27.094
- because at the time,
my dad had transitioned-
00:46:27.118 --> 00:46:30.405
- from being a missionary
to a children's tv show host.
00:46:30.621 --> 00:46:33.238
So it was a, a big scandal.
00:46:33.457 --> 00:46:36.542
I mean, ten or 20 years ago I don't
think somebody could have like-
00:46:36.711 --> 00:46:41.079
- built their entire career being
alternative looking, I would say.
00:46:41.299 --> 00:46:45.375
She understands being a sex worker in a way
that a lot of the newer girls don't get.
00:46:45.594 --> 00:46:48.757
Not only that, but alternative
sex worker by choice.
00:46:48.973 --> 00:46:53.759
Coming from the fetish scene, you know,
it's, it's a very misunderstood group.
00:46:53.978 --> 00:46:58.767
And then all of a sudden, I was in this
environment where the dirtier, the better.
00:46:58.983 --> 00:47:01.270
Like you wanna do something crazy?
Then let's film it.
00:47:01.485 --> 00:47:03.444
I had her like kind of
all tied up and was like-
00:47:03.654 --> 00:47:06.238
- filming her on like a super 8
camera and being really creepy.
00:47:06.407 --> 00:47:08.614
And like, I'm gonna be a star.
You're my princess.
00:47:08.826 --> 00:47:10.743
She's the type of person
that you want to fuck.
00:47:10.870 --> 00:47:12.079
With a gun.
00:47:12.246 --> 00:47:13.830
- No, I'm not lying.
- Don't lie to me.
00:47:13.873 --> 00:47:15.079
No.
00:47:15.291 --> 00:47:16.958
When I first got in,
everyone told me to,
00:47:17.001 --> 00:47:19.868
- that, again, that my
look was too extreme.
00:47:20.087 --> 00:47:22.499
But it was actually,
it actually worked in my favor,
00:47:22.715 --> 00:47:24.956
- I think, because
it made me stand out.
00:47:25.176 --> 00:47:27.008
I, I think that being
a submissive woman-
00:47:27.219 --> 00:47:32.634
- is a very empowering thing to
do um, because you have to be-
00:47:32.850 --> 00:47:37.051
- really tough, and in the fetish
world, it's all about consent.
00:47:37.271 --> 00:47:38.602
It's not about abuse.
00:47:38.814 --> 00:47:42.936
I've been very blessed in that I've
gotten a lot of mainstream attention.
00:47:43.152 --> 00:47:45.109
I've actually got to do
some really cool stuff.
00:47:45.321 --> 00:47:46.652
Count to ten.
00:47:48.949 --> 00:47:50.781
One.
00:47:52.495 --> 00:47:54.281
Two.
00:47:55.790 --> 00:47:57.201
Why are you being so gentle?
00:47:57.416 --> 00:47:58.747
Oh!
00:47:58.959 --> 00:48:02.828
I have a lot of nerdy pleasures,
so I did a whole movie-
00:48:03.047 --> 00:48:06.289
- where I cos-played different
characters from the different worlds.
00:48:06.509 --> 00:48:12.129
Wind moving through the leaves,
bring me harry potter please.
00:48:12.348 --> 00:48:16.348
A few years ago, I was featured in
a marvel comic, the new "Daredevil"-
00:48:16.560 --> 00:48:19.052
- as the reference
model to draw echo.
00:48:19.271 --> 00:48:21.353
Pretty, pretty cool.
I'm sorry.
00:48:21.565 --> 00:48:24.102
I gotta, I gotta hand it to myself.
00:48:24.318 --> 00:48:26.309
So against what a
lot of the industry-
00:48:26.529 --> 00:48:29.237
- considers to be all odds,
she's risen further-
00:48:29.448 --> 00:48:31.439
- than most people
can ever dream of rising.
00:48:31.659 --> 00:48:34.276
By showing her true self,
00:48:34.495 --> 00:48:38.033
I think she's a, she's kind of,
she's kind of my hero for that.
00:48:38.249 --> 00:48:44.995
I think it really goes to show how far
we've come as human beings right now.
00:48:45.214 --> 00:48:52.468
Liking crazy sex isn't as unusual
for a girl to like sucking cock.
00:48:54.223 --> 00:48:55.509
Are you not his whore?
00:49:05.234 --> 00:49:07.775
Both my parents were very
religious in the Mormon religion,
00:49:07.987 --> 00:49:10.399
- so I kind of grew up
with that upbringing.
00:49:10.614 --> 00:49:16.241
I transitioned from Jesus to the adult
industry by seeking I think validation.
00:49:16.454 --> 00:49:18.240
It's refreshing to
be around someone-
00:49:18.456 --> 00:49:21.790
- that is so comfortable with
themselves and who they are-
00:49:22.001 --> 00:49:24.459
- that it makes you feel more
comfortable with who you are.
00:49:24.670 --> 00:49:27.287
She wasn't a fake person
in any way, shape or form.
00:49:27.506 --> 00:49:30.168
And I hate to say it,
but in the porn business,
00:49:30.384 --> 00:49:34.214
- sometimes being somewhat fake
with your emotions is a necessity.
00:49:34.430 --> 00:49:35.670
You think you can handle me?
00:49:35.890 --> 00:49:37.255
Yeah, I think so.
00:49:37.475 --> 00:49:39.386
I think I can handle you.
00:49:39.602 --> 00:49:41.593
I think you need to bend over.
00:49:41.812 --> 00:49:44.179
The thing that led to
belladonna's popularity,
00:49:44.398 --> 00:49:48.482
- I believe, was when Diane sawyer
profiled her on "Prime Time Live."
00:49:48.694 --> 00:49:52.437
The hatchet job, but people had
a lot of empathy for belladonna,
00:49:52.656 --> 00:49:54.567
- and that opened the
door for her success.
00:49:54.783 --> 00:49:57.241
She says afterwards
she was shattered,
00:49:57.453 --> 00:49:59.490
- but she just didn't
know how to refuse.
00:49:59.705 --> 00:50:02.413
Because I didn't know
any better, you know?
00:50:02.625 --> 00:50:06.869
I had these ideas of fame
and attention and money.
00:50:07.087 --> 00:50:10.588
When she started,
if a girl had a tattoo,
00:50:10.799 --> 00:50:14.588
- more than half the producers wouldn't
even hire the person if they had tattoos.
00:50:14.803 --> 00:50:17.929
And by the time she finished, it
was a completely different world.
00:50:18.140 --> 00:50:23.642
Ahe attention that I was getting
from my body was powerful.
00:50:23.854 --> 00:50:28.231
You know, it was the first time in
my life I felt like, wow, like I am sexy.
00:50:28.442 --> 00:50:32.026
I got an opportunity
to direct for evil angel.
00:50:32.238 --> 00:50:35.571
As a female director who was
really the one with the ideas.
00:50:35.783 --> 00:50:38.150
Because she could be
real in those movies,
00:50:38.369 --> 00:50:40.485
- and she was in a safe,
comfortable environment.
00:50:40.704 --> 00:50:44.113
We were just hanging out and
capture what you capture, and that's it.
00:50:44.333 --> 00:50:48.413
You know, I had never really thought
too much about what I was doing.
00:50:48.629 --> 00:50:51.838
I got these opportunities
and I did 'em-
00:50:52.049 --> 00:50:54.757
- and I was very much
in the moment, day to day.
00:50:54.969 --> 00:50:59.504
And in the height of DVD sales, belladonna
was a top seller week after week.
00:51:01.100 --> 00:51:06.352
In the 1970s and early 1980s, when porn
was mostly still shown in movie theaters,
00:51:06.564 --> 00:51:09.977
- acting was as much a
premium as sexual ability.
00:51:10.192 --> 00:51:14.610
Some of the greatest actors from the golden
age of adult cinema were classically trained.
00:51:14.822 --> 00:51:18.773
Appearing in adult films then
became an act of rebellion.
00:51:18.993 --> 00:51:24.116
Here now are adult cinema's most
award worthy dramatic performers.
00:51:24.331 --> 00:51:27.959
I am compelled to introduce myself.
My name is Johnny Dooropener.
00:51:28.127 --> 00:51:31.915
Howdy, Mr. Dooropener.
How did you know who I was?
00:51:32.131 --> 00:51:35.586
It's my business to know people.
John was very innovative.
00:51:35.801 --> 00:51:38.042
He was the real deal all day.
00:51:38.262 --> 00:51:44.219
He actually could act, and then he could
also do a, a sexual performance, and I think-
00:51:44.435 --> 00:51:46.597
- to be able to do both
was just a pretty rare gift.
00:51:46.812 --> 00:51:51.055
Of all the male porn-stars in the
'70s, he probably sold the most tickets.
00:51:51.275 --> 00:51:53.232
He was the only actor of that era-
00:51:53.444 --> 00:51:56.398
- that people came to see because
of his acting, and his charisma,
00:51:56.614 --> 00:51:58.400
- and he was the
Clark Gable of his era.
00:51:58.616 --> 00:52:00.510
At that time, there was no
material out there, so they had-
00:52:00.534 --> 00:52:02.429
- soft-core movies, right,
people had soft-core movies,
00:52:02.453 --> 00:52:03.818
- let's cut in hardcore footage.
00:52:04.038 --> 00:52:09.949
They'd cut from this film of this guy
pretending to fuck this girl, soft-core,
00:52:10.169 --> 00:52:14.791
- and they'd cut in me fucking the
girl, so you get a little in and out.
00:52:15.007 --> 00:52:18.499
I did five one day,
inserts and cum shots.
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.632
Every time you came, they
gave you another fucking $50.
00:52:21.847 --> 00:52:26.174
And I don't know why they wanted the
fourth and fifth one 'cause it was blanks.
00:52:26.393 --> 00:52:30.974
He just had a way about him
that was '80s charismatic.
00:52:31.190 --> 00:52:33.190
I would say he's like
the Clint Eastwood of porn.
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:36.017
You just wanted to,
to please him.
00:52:36.236 --> 00:52:41.022
He had swag and he was sexy,
and he was, he was like a ladies man.
00:52:41.241 --> 00:52:46.244
And I feel like women wanted him,
and men kind of wanted to be him.
00:52:46.455 --> 00:52:49.413
Did I give you enough dick?
Huh?
00:52:49.625 --> 00:52:50.956
I give you enough dick?
00:52:51.210 --> 00:52:55.911
He was the original guy to talk dirty
to girls to get where he wanted to get.
00:52:56.131 --> 00:52:59.544
I bet the police get in your
pants all the time, huh?
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:02.923
But you gotta watch those cops.
They'll fuck you to death.
00:53:03.138 --> 00:53:07.097
- You ever been fucked in the ass before?
- Mm-mm.
00:53:07.309 --> 00:53:09.971
- Are you curious what it's about?
- Mm.
00:53:10.187 --> 00:53:13.271
It was, it was fun, it was mostly
fun because we were best friends.
00:53:13.482 --> 00:53:16.899
The last two weeks he was alive,
he was hanging at joey's,
00:53:17.111 --> 00:53:20.604
- and, uh, they just
understood each other.
00:53:20.823 --> 00:53:23.780
Well, to be honest,
I wish john was even more,
00:53:23.992 --> 00:53:25.778
- uh, had more of
an impact than he was.
00:53:25.994 --> 00:53:32.123
That's a big problem with this business is that
when you are gone in this business, you are gone.
00:53:36.755 --> 00:53:43.088
I mean, anybody that can do ten
pages of script, four costume changes,
00:53:43.303 --> 00:53:49.257
- and three sex scenes in a ten-hour day,
you know, goes to the top of the list.
00:53:49.476 --> 00:53:51.454
- Oh, yeah, fuck her.
- No, I don't think I will.
00:53:51.478 --> 00:53:53.685
Oh, fuck her like
you fuck me, Nick.
00:53:53.897 --> 00:53:57.310
Making films was a lot
different then, and it was huge.
00:53:57.526 --> 00:54:01.651
Like we would have big red carpet
premieres, and you would go into a theater.
00:54:01.864 --> 00:54:05.523
And if it was a good movie, you
could run six weeks, two months,
00:54:05.743 --> 00:54:11.370
- playing the same movie at a
theater. I thought, wow. I could act.
00:54:11.582 --> 00:54:13.539
All my friends from
college weren't acting.
00:54:13.751 --> 00:54:16.163
I could get paid for it,
and I could have sex.
00:54:16.378 --> 00:54:18.164
It was like, oh, yeah.
00:54:18.380 --> 00:54:20.462
You always carry around
girl's underpants?
00:54:20.674 --> 00:54:21.914
Yeah, I collect them.
00:54:22.134 --> 00:54:23.966
Maybe I can give you
some of mine sometime.
00:54:24.178 --> 00:54:27.091
Veronica came across
as more intelligent.
00:54:27.306 --> 00:54:33.385
She came across as more capable,
and her scenes came off as very genuine.
00:54:33.604 --> 00:54:36.773
One of the most favorite roles that
I've ever had was in "Amanda by Night."
00:54:36.857 --> 00:54:39.770
Can you fucking believe that?
00:54:39.985 --> 00:54:42.192
Oh, no, no.
00:54:42.404 --> 00:54:45.654
Another reason why I really liked that
movie is I actually won best actress.
00:54:45.866 --> 00:54:48.028
Now if I could ask you a question.
00:54:48.243 --> 00:54:50.075
Why did your last
coordinator leave?
00:54:50.287 --> 00:54:52.015
She wasn't putting out,
uh, she wasn't putting out-
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:53.433
- the kinds of results
that we were looking for.
00:54:53.457 --> 00:54:55.039
Mm-hmm.
00:54:56.543 --> 00:55:00.252
You do have, uh,
quite an employment history.
00:55:00.464 --> 00:55:01.900
"Wanda Whips Wall Street."
00:55:01.924 --> 00:55:03.540
What a fun movie that was.
00:55:03.759 --> 00:55:06.421
They actually made
a straight film out of it-
00:55:06.637 --> 00:55:09.095
- called "Stocks and Blondes."
We went back and re-shot.
00:55:09.306 --> 00:55:13.174
You know, Lester, I don't usually
go out with men from the office,
00:55:13.393 --> 00:55:15.805
- but seeing as you're from
Tyler's Cleveland branch,
00:55:16.021 --> 00:55:18.137
- I thought I'd make an exception.
00:55:18.357 --> 00:55:24.985
Veronica became the quintessential
sex goddess, and the actress.
00:55:25.197 --> 00:55:29.065
And she was still managed
to maintain the feeling-
00:55:29.284 --> 00:55:32.072
- that she was your girlfriend
or the friend of your sister's.
00:55:32.287 --> 00:55:37.823
I did 13 movies one year, and they
told me I had ruined my career.
00:55:38.043 --> 00:55:41.536
And what it did, it just
made me more well known.
00:55:41.755 --> 00:55:43.792
People have a lot to say
about this business,
00:55:44.007 --> 00:55:47.212
- but where else can a
female do so many things?
00:55:47.427 --> 00:55:49.197
I mean, I've done about
everything in the business.
00:55:49.221 --> 00:55:51.132
I was able to act,
I was able to direct,
00:55:51.348 --> 00:55:55.345
- I could produce, I'd been a stylist,
I'm still a production manager.
00:55:55.561 --> 00:55:58.228
Where else? I know the straight
business wouldn't afford me that.
00:55:58.313 --> 00:56:05.772
In a career sense, good actress,
sexy gal, somebody that you could, uh,
00:56:05.988 --> 00:56:08.400
- jerk off to and not feel bad about,
00:56:08.615 --> 00:56:11.357
- but made you feel good about
being a sexual human being-
00:56:12.995 --> 00:56:16.950
And who really wanted to connect,
and really wanted to spread love.
00:56:18.876 --> 00:56:22.460
Jamie was absolutely
the icon of all time.
00:56:22.671 --> 00:56:27.790
And he's one of the pioneers of modern
pornography, a complete and total deviant.
00:56:28.010 --> 00:56:32.720
Creepy, dirty, nasty, sexy behavior.
00:56:32.931 --> 00:56:36.674
He was able somehow to,
to make it classy.
00:56:40.147 --> 00:56:43.139
Happened pretty quickly,
because once I started working,
00:56:43.358 --> 00:56:47.685
- uh, it was like an avalanche after
about a year, you know, maybe a year.
00:56:47.905 --> 00:56:50.216
It was like all of a sudden, I
was the guy, you know, that,
00:56:50.240 --> 00:56:55.068
- I mean, there was one point in new york where
I counted 14 of my films playing in one day.
00:56:55.287 --> 00:57:00.452
It's amazing to me that somebody
who is famous in the end-
00:57:00.626 --> 00:57:05.791
- for showing the raw, real side of
their sexuality is also an amazing actor.
00:57:06.006 --> 00:57:10.591
You know, you pulled off quite a neat
little trick with that fantasy of yours.
00:57:10.802 --> 00:57:13.590
- Does that feel good?
- Yeah, it's just sex.
00:57:13.805 --> 00:57:15.139
I am pretty dirty,
though, girls.
00:57:15.349 --> 00:57:16.680
You'll have to work hard.
00:57:16.892 --> 00:57:18.508
Repent!
00:57:18.727 --> 00:57:20.513
You must repent!
00:57:20.729 --> 00:57:22.345
God!
Please forgive me!
00:57:22.564 --> 00:57:24.667
To me, sex was a big drug,
if you want to call it that.
00:57:24.691 --> 00:57:26.352
I was really interested in the sex.
00:57:26.568 --> 00:57:31.315
The idea that people were getting,
drinking or taking pills to, to, you know,
00:57:31.531 --> 00:57:35.261
- forget the experience they were having on the
set, you know, or maybe they felt bad about it.
00:57:35.285 --> 00:57:36.660
I don't know
what they were doing.
00:57:36.787 --> 00:57:38.139
To me it didn't,
it didn't make any sense to me.
00:57:38.163 --> 00:57:41.406
You know, I was really after the,
the piece of ass I was gonna fuck.
00:57:41.625 --> 00:57:43.957
Men, women, I don't
think it mattered to him.
00:57:44.169 --> 00:57:46.661
Jamie Gillis may have said
at times that he was bisexual,
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.502
- but I think the only label you
could put on Jamie Gillis is pervert.
00:57:50.717 --> 00:57:55.837
Jamie, um, Gillis would not fly.
00:57:56.056 --> 00:58:01.550
I remember it was on a TWA flight,
and we're gonna take off,
00:58:01.770 --> 00:58:04.762
- and Jamie tells me that he
has a tremendous fear of flying.
00:58:04.982 --> 00:58:07.440
And then he reaches down,
he pulls out a baggie-
00:58:07.651 --> 00:58:11.269
- that's got panties in it and he says,
this is for my black, black ore.
00:58:11.488 --> 00:58:13.091
The plane starts
rolling down the runway.
00:58:13.115 --> 00:58:17.150
Jamie opens up the bag, and he starts,
he starts huffing on it, the bag,
00:58:17.369 --> 00:58:21.453
- and the smell from the bag was so
horrendous and so putrid, it was insane.
00:58:21.665 --> 00:58:23.059
I mean, that was Jamie.
He was a pervert,
00:58:23.083 --> 00:58:25.520
- so sniffing the panties, that
was like crack cocaine to him.
00:58:25.544 --> 00:58:30.208
"Dracula Sucks," that was
the role he was meant to play.
00:58:30.424 --> 00:58:34.509
The blood is the life-
00:58:34.720 --> 00:58:38.675
- there are far worse things
awaiting man than death.
00:58:38.890 --> 00:58:43.967
In my heyday, I was maybe working
maybe one or two days a week.
00:58:44.187 --> 00:58:46.021
The rest of the time,
I was just hanging out,
00:58:46.106 --> 00:58:48.313
- you know, and I was
making enough money-
00:58:48.525 --> 00:58:50.107
- and I wasn't even,
what was that?
00:58:50.318 --> 00:58:51.353
You call that work?
00:58:51.570 --> 00:58:53.006
You know, a garbage man,
that's work.
00:58:53.030 --> 00:58:55.237
And to have a career
that lasts that long,
00:58:55.449 --> 00:58:57.440
- to be so innovative,
and to really express-
00:58:57.659 --> 00:59:02.532
- who you truly are as a sexual
being to me is something to be envied.
00:59:10.505 --> 00:59:13.507
Annette definitely looked like she
would be in the mainstream movies.
00:59:13.717 --> 00:59:16.301
She definitely did not look like
she was in the adult industry.
00:59:16.470 --> 00:59:18.179
She could've been
a Victoria secret model.
00:59:18.388 --> 00:59:20.846
She was just so fetching
and a wonderful actress-
00:59:21.058 --> 00:59:24.221
- and serious as a heart attack
and a great businesswoman.
00:59:24.436 --> 00:59:28.100
The most amazing thing for
me about Annette haven-
00:59:28.315 --> 00:59:33.650
- is, um, not just like how beautiful she
is, but also how kind of innocent she is.
00:59:33.862 --> 00:59:41.067
She combined like this very ethereal
personality, look, and so forth with the sex.
00:59:41.286 --> 00:59:45.029
And, uh, she was
one of the first where,
00:59:45.248 --> 00:59:47.956
- where her name became,
you know, a name.
00:59:48.168 --> 00:59:50.660
I wasn't aware of
how popular I was.
00:59:50.879 --> 00:59:52.213
I have never been aware of that.
00:59:52.380 --> 00:59:54.997
I've never been aware
of how beautiful I am.
00:59:55.217 --> 01:00:01.178
I remember being in la. In the summer
of '77, and "desires within young girls"-
01:00:01.389 --> 01:00:04.767
- making more money at the box
office than over half of Hollywood.
01:00:04.810 --> 01:00:06.266
I was in slot 14.
01:00:06.478 --> 01:00:09.391
Mel Brooks' "Young
Frankenstein" was in slot 17.
01:00:14.986 --> 01:00:19.897
Annette, uh, was always perceived
as a feminist, and she still is.
01:00:20.117 --> 01:00:24.197
As far as I know, I am the
only person in adult films-
01:00:24.412 --> 01:00:27.279
- who did not do any
of the degrading acts.
01:00:27.499 --> 01:00:30.617
The facial ejaculation,
because I don't want-
01:00:30.836 --> 01:00:34.878
- that represented to the
American public as adult sexuality.
01:00:35.090 --> 01:00:37.132
You know what's interesting
about Annette is that-
01:00:37.300 --> 01:00:39.009
- you would almost
kind of not expect her-
01:00:39.219 --> 01:00:41.836
- to be a very good actress
just based off of the fact-
01:00:42.055 --> 01:00:44.262
- that she didn't have
an acting background.
01:00:44.474 --> 01:00:46.556
But she is so good.
01:00:46.768 --> 01:00:48.102
You said you'd give me a chance.
01:00:48.311 --> 01:00:49.580
Aren't you forgetting something?
01:00:49.604 --> 01:00:51.595
"Sports Life" is a man's magazine.
01:00:51.815 --> 01:00:53.101
But that's just it, you see,
01:00:53.316 --> 01:00:54.983
- we get all the
women's readership, too.
01:00:55.026 --> 01:00:56.812
Finding people who could speak,
01:00:57.028 --> 01:00:59.736
- who were beautiful,
who had beautiful bodies,
01:00:59.948 --> 01:01:02.073
- blah, blah, blah,
it was a bit difficult, I guess.
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:09.905
Blake Edwards approached me for "10."
01:01:10.125 --> 01:01:14.122
Blake was very nice, and
invited me down to Hollywood.
01:01:14.337 --> 01:01:17.375
He said, can you get me people
who are naked? And I said, oh, yeah.
01:01:17.591 --> 01:01:22.255
So I was the casting agent, and the
production manager for the party scene.
01:01:22.470 --> 01:01:26.763
There was something, uh,
just wonderful to watch-
01:01:26.975 --> 01:01:29.842
- Annette Haven on film having sex.
01:01:30.061 --> 01:01:32.415
We all have to pretend, what,
our mommies didn't have sex.
01:01:32.439 --> 01:01:34.931
Every last one of
our mommies had sex.
01:01:35.150 --> 01:01:37.391
Hopefully they enjoyed it.
01:01:39.070 --> 01:01:40.560
I want you to
let me see your tits.
01:01:45.493 --> 01:01:47.430
How and when did I
meet Richard Pacheco?
01:01:47.454 --> 01:01:51.197
I think it was some
point in the early '80$.
01:01:51.416 --> 01:01:55.211
When he said that he was writing a book,
he said, will you write the forward?
01:01:55.253 --> 01:01:57.671
And I said I would.
He is family.
01:01:57.714 --> 01:01:59.421
He's a nice Jewish boy.
01:01:59.633 --> 01:02:01.217
You could take him
home to mom I think.
01:02:01.384 --> 01:02:07.095
I had plans of becoming a rabbi,
and they happened at the same time,
01:02:07.307 --> 01:02:09.548
- uh, I had my first offer
to be in a porn film.
01:02:09.768 --> 01:02:10.974
So I had a decision to make.
01:02:11.186 --> 01:02:16.604
Richard's motivation was to be an actor,
uh, much more than a, a sex performer.
01:02:16.816 --> 01:02:22.899
By far, Richard Pacheco is the
greatest male actor in adult film history.
01:02:23.114 --> 01:02:27.532
Cupid, draw back your bow,
and let your arrow-
01:02:27.744 --> 01:02:30.406
- go straight to my
lover's heart for me.
01:02:30.622 --> 01:02:33.990
When I met him,
I was kind of freaked out-
01:02:34.167 --> 01:02:40.420
- because my mom and I enjoyed
"Playgirl" magazine, and we had his pinup.
01:02:40.632 --> 01:02:44.629
In the 1980s, if Hollywood
didn't put a scarlet letter-
01:02:44.844 --> 01:02:47.971
- around the adult industry, he
would have been the first actor-
01:02:48.014 --> 01:02:51.392
- to cross over and actually do
adult, and then do mainstream films,
01:02:51.476 --> 01:02:52.716
- like James Deen does now.
01:02:52.936 --> 01:02:57.263
Richard Pacheco won best supporting
actor, for "nothing to hide," uh,
01:02:57.482 --> 01:03:00.190
- because he portrayed
somebody that was, uh, slow.
01:03:00.402 --> 01:03:03.820
But he was really sweet, too, and
it was a very romantic little storyline.
01:03:04.030 --> 01:03:05.361
I love her.
01:03:05.573 --> 01:03:07.385
Well, I love Miss Fernstein
the landlord, too.
01:03:07.409 --> 01:03:09.326
That doesn't mean I'm
gonna marry her, does it?
01:03:09.452 --> 01:03:10.680
It's not the same thing,
jack, and you know it.
01:03:10.704 --> 01:03:12.411
Fuck love, man!
What are you, a sucker?
01:03:12.622 --> 01:03:15.705
"Irresistible" was
“Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure."
01:03:15.875 --> 01:03:17.334
They must have
taken cues from that.
01:03:17.502 --> 01:03:20.415
There were so many
different parallels with that.
01:03:20.630 --> 01:03:22.416
What province are you from?
01:03:22.632 --> 01:03:25.124
You probably haven't heard of it.
01:03:25.343 --> 01:03:26.708
It's called Marin county.
01:03:28.888 --> 01:03:30.950
They gave me Best Actor
and Best Supporting Actor.
01:03:30.974 --> 01:03:32.590
And, wow.
Wow.
01:03:32.809 --> 01:03:34.299
Thank you, Jesus.
That was a coup.
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:39.013
It's ironic that
porn-stars were discredited-
01:03:39.232 --> 01:03:42.683
- because they were fucking,
'cause you can't fake fucking.
01:03:42.902 --> 01:03:47.063
You really got to be there, and
that's a tremendous achievement-
01:03:47.282 --> 01:03:49.819
- to get yourself real
enough to be able to do that.
01:03:50.035 --> 01:03:52.777
Do I think he would've
made it as a straight actor?
01:03:52.996 --> 01:03:54.862
Probably, you know,
'cause he's really good.
01:03:55.081 --> 01:03:56.321
He knows how to improvise.
01:03:56.541 --> 01:03:58.000
He knows how to
be a straight actor.
01:03:58.084 --> 01:03:59.415
He knows these things.
01:03:59.627 --> 01:04:01.586
I think that's what makes
him one of the greats.
01:04:03.131 --> 01:04:05.247
Some adult stars
gain even greater fame-
01:04:05.467 --> 01:04:08.505
- by crossing over into
mainstream entertainment.
01:04:08.720 --> 01:04:11.963
Sometimes a scandal
worked in their favor.
01:04:12.182 --> 01:04:16.008
Other times, great marketing,
or an inherently irresistible appeal-
01:04:16.227 --> 01:04:21.097
- bridged the gap between sex
stardom, and pop culture acclaim.
01:04:21.316 --> 01:04:24.058
These stars blasted
right through barriers-
01:04:24.277 --> 01:04:28.277
- separating the adult business
from big time show business.
01:04:35.622 --> 01:04:38.656
Of those big three, Linda
Lovelace, Georgina Spelvin,
01:04:38.875 --> 01:04:41.833
- Marilyn Chambers,
Marilyn clearly stands out.
01:04:42.045 --> 01:04:43.331
The camera loved her.
01:04:43.546 --> 01:04:47.547
But she had this girl next
door like innocent look-
01:04:47.759 --> 01:04:50.467
- that not many girls
in porn back then had.
01:04:50.678 --> 01:04:53.636
Well, I answered an ad in the
San Francisco "Chronicle"-
01:04:53.848 --> 01:04:57.261
- that said, now casting
for a major motion picture.
01:04:57.477 --> 01:05:00.344
I thought, oh, this is a
little bit too naughty for me.
01:05:00.563 --> 01:05:03.726
She thought that if she
did a good job in this movie-
01:05:03.942 --> 01:05:06.684
- it would lead to a lot
of mainstream roles for her-
01:05:06.903 --> 01:05:08.860
- because it would
show that she could act.
01:05:09.072 --> 01:05:11.780
But also, the amount of money
they were offering was like, mm.
01:05:11.991 --> 01:05:14.278
You know, they're like
we really like your look.
01:05:14.494 --> 01:05:15.950
Just sit down and talk with us.
01:05:16.162 --> 01:05:19.121
And so she actually negotiated with
them, and said that she would do it,
01:05:19.207 --> 01:05:21.824
- but only under the circumstances
01:05:22.043 --> 01:05:25.035
- that they give her, um, ten
percent of the film's gross revenue,
01:05:25.255 --> 01:05:28.373
- which is huge,
you know, like that's insane.
01:05:28.591 --> 01:05:30.903
And I said I don't really wanna
know what's gonna happen.
01:05:30.927 --> 01:05:33.134
I know it's gonna
be wild and sexy,
01:05:33.346 --> 01:05:37.840
- and it's gonna be scary probably for me
at certain times, but I don't wanna know.
01:05:38.059 --> 01:05:42.310
When we started to have sex, it was the kind
of thing where I was like totally freaked out.
01:05:42.522 --> 01:05:44.125
I didn't think I was gonna
be able to do this one.
01:05:44.149 --> 01:05:48.938
Then it, there was a moment where
it turned from terror, hah, to pleasure,
01:05:49.154 --> 01:05:51.896
- and I really believe you can see that.
01:05:52.115 --> 01:05:55.483
The controversy between me
being on the ivory soap box,
01:05:55.702 --> 01:05:56.908
- it was a pr man's dream.
01:05:57.120 --> 01:06:00.307
It just happened to be the very same week that
"Behind the Green Door" opened in the theaters.
01:06:00.331 --> 01:06:03.119
So it was just, thank you.
01:06:03.334 --> 01:06:05.701
And Procter & Gamble
wasn't real happy about it.
01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:09.663
My favorite scene is the
pool table scene in "Insatiable."
01:06:09.883 --> 01:06:11.465
I could tell that
it was a hot scene-
01:06:11.676 --> 01:06:15.006
- because when the crew applauds
you, you know that it's good.
01:06:20.477 --> 01:06:24.596
"Insatiable" was one of those
quintessential movies.
01:06:24.814 --> 01:06:29.850
Rich girl who is a model, and
she just had this sexual appetite-
01:06:30.069 --> 01:06:32.026
- that nobody could satisfy.
01:06:32.238 --> 01:06:37.608
I devote myself to all men,
and a lot of women.
01:06:37.827 --> 01:06:39.363
She wrote a song for it,
01:06:39.579 --> 01:06:42.821
- for the movie she did, "Insatiable,"
and she actually sang it.
01:06:43.041 --> 01:06:45.123
It's the song that
plays behind the titles.
01:06:45.335 --> 01:06:47.292
She did some
modeling beyond that.
01:06:47.504 --> 01:06:50.628
She even did dinner theater
in Las Vegas, for about a year.
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:55.462
Believe it or not, the mayor of Las
Vegas gave her the key to the city.
01:06:55.678 --> 01:06:59.262
I don't know what it used to be like to hire
an adult actor in a mainstream type movie.
01:06:59.307 --> 01:07:00.784
I don't know if that was a big
stigma that people had to get over.
01:07:00.808 --> 01:07:02.219
I assume it must have been.
01:07:02.435 --> 01:07:05.852
The biggest one I remember is when
Marilyn Chambers was in Cronenberg's film.
01:07:06.064 --> 01:07:09.397
And he cast her as the
lead in his movie "Rabid."
01:07:09.609 --> 01:07:11.316
You gotta come quick.
01:07:11.528 --> 01:07:13.064
You gotta come quick and get me.
01:07:13.279 --> 01:07:15.520
And of course that had
never happened before.
01:07:15.740 --> 01:07:19.069
This was the first time someone
who had been a porn-star,
01:07:19.285 --> 01:07:23.365
- who was well known as a porn-star
was cast in a major mainstream movie.
01:07:23.581 --> 01:07:25.184
Being Marilyn Chambers
has always been kind of,
01:07:25.208 --> 01:07:29.961
- not a facade, because I've always believed
that you have to be that person 24 hours a day.
01:07:30.046 --> 01:07:33.830
You have to really believe in what you're
doing, which I have, and I've had a lot of fun.
01:07:34.050 --> 01:07:36.007
But now that I have a daughter.
01:07:36.219 --> 01:07:40.420
Learning all of that was kind of
scary at first, because like I said,
01:07:40.640 --> 01:07:43.007
- my mom is my mom,
not Marilyn chambers to me.
01:07:43.226 --> 01:07:44.842
So knowing everything
that she's done-
01:07:45.061 --> 01:07:48.304
- and my friends knowing
the things that she's done,
01:07:48.523 --> 01:07:50.855
- um, is was pretty
hard to get used to.
01:07:51.067 --> 01:07:53.855
But there were some funny times
where I'd see her name on HBO-
01:07:54.070 --> 01:07:55.631
- and she'd come running out
and say like, close your eyes.
01:07:55.655 --> 01:07:57.020
Don't watch that.
01:07:57.240 --> 01:07:59.607
I just don't want her
to follow in my footsteps.
01:07:59.826 --> 01:08:04.653
In the end like I'm just so proud of her, and
she knew that, so that was my only concern.
01:08:04.872 --> 01:08:09.200
I'm not gonna say that I created porno
chic, but I know that I was part of it.
01:08:09.419 --> 01:08:11.461
And that was a very
important time in our history-
01:08:11.504 --> 01:08:13.754
- where people like Johnny
Carson were waiting in line-
01:08:13.965 --> 01:08:16.049
- to see “Deep Throat" and
"Behind the Green Door."
01:08:16.134 --> 01:08:18.922
And I truly believe
that it's not educational,
01:08:19.137 --> 01:08:24.052
- but it certainly can be very helpful
in kind of helping your sex life.
01:08:24.267 --> 01:08:26.008
It helped mine.
01:08:31.774 --> 01:08:35.733
He's not, you know, sort of
like the hulking male porn-star.
01:08:35.945 --> 01:08:40.443
Of the '90s with like the, you know, like
thong tan lines and stuff like huge pecs.
01:08:40.658 --> 01:08:46.160
And he's just this guy, the kind of guy that
you would have a crush on in chemistry class.
01:08:46.372 --> 01:08:47.453
That's him.
01:08:47.665 --> 01:08:49.952
He's the Justin Bieber of porn.
01:08:56.633 --> 01:08:59.069
So my whole life is I wanna do porn,
I wanna do porn, I wanna do porn.
01:08:59.093 --> 01:09:05.051
It wasn't a new thing when I turned
18 to, you know, tell my parents.
01:09:05.266 --> 01:09:07.016
So once I explained
all this to my parents,
01:09:07.226 --> 01:09:08.746
- and then also reminded
them that I still have my money-
01:09:08.770 --> 01:09:10.104
- from when I got bar mitzvahed.
01:09:10.313 --> 01:09:13.563
Like I, I'm not the type of guy who's
gonna think, oh, I made a bunch of money.
01:09:13.608 --> 01:09:17.313
I'm gonna go buy a Ferrari and a solid
gold house, and like get a rocket car.
01:09:17.528 --> 01:09:18.589
That's also a "Simpson's" reference.
01:09:18.613 --> 01:09:21.813
I met James when he was,
I believe he was 18 years old.
01:09:22.033 --> 01:09:23.489
I mean, he was just good.
01:09:23.701 --> 01:09:25.346
I mean, we went through
the entire scene,
01:09:25.370 --> 01:09:27.264
- and then he popped,
and I was like, oh, shit.
01:09:27.288 --> 01:09:28.891
We've got to go
through and do the stills.
01:09:28.915 --> 01:09:30.059
And he was like: "That's cool.
01:09:30.083 --> 01:09:31.539
I'm young and spry.
01:09:31.751 --> 01:09:33.037
I can get some more out."
01:09:33.252 --> 01:09:36.665
So... and he did,
which was outstanding.
01:09:41.469 --> 01:09:45.115
In 2009, I became the youngest person
to ever win male performer of the year-
01:09:45.139 --> 01:09:47.096
- from AVN, which is
a very prestigious award.
01:09:47.308 --> 01:09:48.924
All: James Deen.
01:09:51.396 --> 01:09:56.105
I had a panic attack, ran and hid, and my
girlfriend at the time accepted the award for me.
01:09:56.317 --> 01:09:58.604
James, where the fuck are you?
01:09:58.820 --> 01:10:01.278
I have heard of the Deen-agers.
01:10:01.489 --> 01:10:03.651
Deen-agers is invented
by Dana Dearmond.
01:10:03.866 --> 01:10:07.160
She was the one who coined that term,
so let's give credit where credit is due.
01:10:07.203 --> 01:10:09.490
Because he's such a relatable guy,
01:10:09.706 --> 01:10:13.698
- and he's young enough for, you know,
young girls to be attracted to him.
01:10:13.918 --> 01:10:16.897
What's funny to be me is there are
scenes that I've done with him-
01:10:16.921 --> 01:10:20.834
- and I'll get tagged because he's in the
scene, and the Deen-agers love James Deen,
01:10:21.050 --> 01:10:23.542
- and I just happened to be
an extra body in the room.
01:10:23.761 --> 01:10:29.506
I feel like people are trying to create
more of that "Boy and Girl Next Door" look.
01:10:29.726 --> 01:10:33.267
But when I first started in 2004,
it was all about performance.
01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:35.146
It had nothing to do with guys or props.
01:10:35.273 --> 01:10:37.685
We don't care what
you look like, you know.
01:10:37.900 --> 01:10:39.561
Like why the hell,
who's looking at you?
01:10:39.777 --> 01:10:41.518
I have no desire to
do mainstream stuff.
01:10:41.738 --> 01:10:43.945
"The Canyons"?
Hell, yeah.
01:10:44.157 --> 01:10:46.908
You have Bret Easton Ellis,
who's an incredibly talented writer-
01:10:46.993 --> 01:10:49.430
- and you have Paul Schrader
who's an incredibly talented director-
01:10:49.454 --> 01:10:53.412
- and they were like so sick of the
standard Hollywood structure of, you know,
01:10:53.624 --> 01:10:55.227
- all the stuff, and they
wanted to do a DIY film-
01:10:55.251 --> 01:10:57.354
- that was just for the sake
of making a fucking film.
01:10:57.378 --> 01:10:59.415
- Jealous?
- Yeah,
01:10:59.630 --> 01:11:02.622
- if there are other people involved.
Like guys.
01:11:02.842 --> 01:11:07.845
It's mostly girls, and, no, I do not get jealous
watching my girl hook up with another chick.
01:11:07.889 --> 01:11:09.550
Is this guy for real?
Are you for real?
01:11:09.766 --> 01:11:12.303
Which is the most
flattering thing in the world-
01:11:12.518 --> 01:11:14.455
- that the guy that wrote "American
Psycho" and "Less Than Zero"-
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:16.220
- wrote a character for me.
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:21.433
I mean, sometimes these, these, you know, people
in adult will get like this sort of taste-
01:11:21.652 --> 01:11:26.696
- of mainstream attention and decide that they're,
they're gonna move on and start this whole new life.
01:11:26.908 --> 01:11:28.844
Adult films are not a
launching pad into mainstream.
01:11:28.868 --> 01:11:30.404
It's just not.
01:11:30.620 --> 01:11:33.703
I think there's this stigma
that people in adult films,
01:11:33.915 --> 01:11:35.374
- they do this 'cause they have to-
01:11:35.541 --> 01:11:37.227
- or they do this because
they have nothing else-
01:11:37.251 --> 01:11:39.993
- or, or, and they forget
that we're performers,
01:11:40.213 --> 01:11:44.207
- just like The Rock and Vin
Diesel are action performers.
01:11:44.425 --> 01:11:48.293
Being famous in the
adult industry is useless.
01:11:48.513 --> 01:11:50.845
Being a good performer
is what matters.
01:11:59.165 --> 01:12:00.451
She was Vivid.
01:12:00.625 --> 01:12:03.538
They signed her to be
the face of the company.
01:12:03.753 --> 01:12:05.994
She was on every box cover.
01:12:06.214 --> 01:12:10.549
Well, there was no such thing as a
contract girl until Ginger came along.
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:14.298
She is definitely a
matriarch in the business.
01:12:14.514 --> 01:12:16.033
I think she's the
beautiful girl next door.
01:12:16.057 --> 01:12:17.682
I do. I think she's
that girl next door-
01:12:17.725 --> 01:12:19.703
- that you've had that crush
on for a really long time-
01:12:19.727 --> 01:12:22.890
- and then all of a sudden just
kind of came into her own sexually.
01:12:23.106 --> 01:12:27.106
And you definitely wanted to bang the shit
out of her, and she never had time for you.
01:12:37.120 --> 01:12:40.454
I walked into, uh, Jim South's office.
He was my agent.
01:12:40.665 --> 01:12:42.747
Uh, you don't have a portfolio?
01:12:42.959 --> 01:12:45.200
Oh, no.
I had my shots in high school.
01:12:45.420 --> 01:12:47.036
And I tell him,
okay, I'm gonna do it.
01:12:47.255 --> 01:12:48.899
And I want this much money
and I want script approval-
01:12:48.923 --> 01:12:51.026
- and I want cast approval.
He's on the floor rolling.
01:12:51.050 --> 01:12:52.675
He said you're not
gonna start that way.
01:12:53.887 --> 01:12:55.127
Lunch is served.
01:12:56.806 --> 01:12:59.138
I got all my demands met,
and I started thinking,
01:12:59.350 --> 01:13:01.637
- oh, my god.
What if I can't do this?
01:13:05.899 --> 01:13:08.516
My very first film was
"Surrender in Paradise."
01:13:08.735 --> 01:13:10.066
I was fine fucking on film.
01:13:10.278 --> 01:13:12.394
Could not get the dialogue
to come out of my mouth.
01:13:12.614 --> 01:13:15.151
We spent about
four hours trying to do it.
01:13:15.366 --> 01:13:17.107
And I thought you
might be different.
01:13:17.327 --> 01:13:20.656
Like all the other guys, get
what you want and chuck me out.
01:13:20.872 --> 01:13:23.580
So Steven Hirsch was
starting vivid entertainment,
01:13:23.791 --> 01:13:26.203
- actually at that time,
it was called vivid video,
01:13:26.419 --> 01:13:31.004
- and they wanted me to be
the star of all of their first films.
01:13:32.634 --> 01:13:35.468
Every day I would wake up and go,
yes! I'm gonna blow this guy today.
01:13:35.637 --> 01:13:37.364
I'm gonna eat that pussy today.
I'm gonna do this.
01:13:37.388 --> 01:13:38.799
And it was exciting for me.
01:13:39.015 --> 01:13:41.757
If you stuck with it,
if you became a pro,
01:13:41.976 --> 01:13:44.538
- hell, I don't think there's anybody
that could even come close to you.
01:13:44.562 --> 01:13:46.098
Do I look okay?
01:13:46.314 --> 01:13:47.349
You look great.
01:13:52.612 --> 01:13:55.570
"New Wave Hookers"
was an amazing film.
01:13:55.782 --> 01:13:58.615
Stick your tongue in up
my ass hole and lick it.
01:14:01.204 --> 01:14:03.491
Girls next door didn't
do double penetration.
01:14:03.706 --> 01:14:06.664
I was, I was the girl next door
who did all the dirty things.
01:14:06.876 --> 01:14:09.334
I've done more mainstream
than I have adult at this point.
01:14:09.546 --> 01:14:11.002
I need to pee!
01:14:15.176 --> 01:14:17.292
- What about my hands?
- What about 'em?
01:14:17.512 --> 01:14:19.054
- How am I gonna wipe?
- I'll help ya.
01:14:19.180 --> 01:14:21.296
So I did "Vice Academy"
one, two, and three.
01:14:21.516 --> 01:14:25.851
And each of you must make ten arrests
in order to get a position on the force.
01:14:26.062 --> 01:14:29.346
My father says that my badge and
uniform are already waiting for me.
01:14:29.566 --> 01:14:31.168
So I like hiring people
where they already-
01:14:31.192 --> 01:14:34.275
- come with their weird
baggage of their career or life.
01:14:34.487 --> 01:14:39.524
So as soon as they walk on screen, you
know, be it a Ginger Lynn or a Danny Trejo,
01:14:39.742 --> 01:14:41.403
- you go, somethin's goin' on there.
01:14:41.619 --> 01:14:44.361
She showed up on crutches,
which was kind of a surprise.
01:14:44.581 --> 01:14:48.500
My introduction to Sid Haig was just being
plopped on on his dirty tighty whities.
01:14:48.710 --> 01:14:51.293
- Yes, yes, yes.
- Come on, baby.
01:14:51.504 --> 01:14:54.872
Oh, oh, oh, ride it, baby.
Ride it, ride it, ride it.
01:14:55.091 --> 01:14:56.707
She started it all.
01:14:56.926 --> 01:15:00.464
I mean, without her,
there could not have been
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:04.806
- strong names like Chasey Lain,
and Jenna Jameson.
01:15:04.976 --> 01:15:06.341
She is the number one.
01:15:06.561 --> 01:15:09.053
There are very
few women like her.
01:15:09.272 --> 01:15:10.603
Do it!
01:15:10.815 --> 01:15:13.273
Yeah.
01:15:13.484 --> 01:15:14.484
Uh-huh.
01:15:14.527 --> 01:15:15.813
Yeah.
01:15:16.029 --> 01:15:18.111
Oh, slam it.
Slam that cunt for me.
01:15:18.323 --> 01:15:19.438
Ugh! Yeah!
01:15:19.657 --> 01:15:25.118
I felt like I could watch her,
and see the emotion-
01:15:25.330 --> 01:15:27.412
- not just in her face,
but in her body.
01:15:27.624 --> 01:15:29.956
Janine is super hot.
01:15:30.168 --> 01:15:32.125
Like super hot,
like supermodel hot.
01:15:32.337 --> 01:15:37.047
I asked my husband if he was okay
with it, and we agreed that women only.
01:15:37.258 --> 01:15:40.216
She knew how to turn it on.
She'd been in front of audiences-
01:15:40.428 --> 01:15:41.884
- for a long time as a dancer.
01:15:42.096 --> 01:15:46.224
In blondage, they did their routine, it was
so hot, like I was completely turned on.
01:15:47.977 --> 01:15:51.853
And then they go backstage,
and then they do their real scene-
01:15:52.065 --> 01:15:55.811
- in the behind the scenes,
and I was like, yeah, yeah.
01:16:03.660 --> 01:16:06.244
The drugs, the
alcohol involved with porn.
01:16:06.371 --> 01:16:14.243
During that time, there was, and I would
partake, and it was not a pretty sight.
01:16:14.462 --> 01:16:17.250
You will sink hard and fast
if you go down that road.
01:16:17.465 --> 01:16:23.168
She is the person that made porn
feel not only super mainstream,
01:16:23.388 --> 01:16:25.925
- but she was kind of
like the rockstar of porn.
01:16:26.140 --> 01:16:27.175
Blink 182.
01:16:27.392 --> 01:16:29.133
That has got to be my highlight.
01:16:29.352 --> 01:16:30.968
It brought in the youth.
01:16:31.187 --> 01:16:32.769
So the Vince Neil sex tape.
01:16:32.980 --> 01:16:37.937
It was rough, because at this time,
I hadn't shot anything with men.
01:16:38.152 --> 01:16:40.894
But, you know,
it was a shocker at first.
01:16:41.114 --> 01:16:45.611
I find it interesting
that she comes back-
01:16:45.827 --> 01:16:50.071
- as like this like
beast of a sexual woman.
01:16:50.289 --> 01:16:51.289
She does dudes.
01:16:51.457 --> 01:16:53.664
She does interracial.
01:16:53.876 --> 01:16:56.368
Please?
Please please me.
01:16:56.587 --> 01:16:57.879
Finally I said fuck it.
01:16:58.089 --> 01:16:59.923
I'm gonna go for it,
and this is what I want.
01:17:00.007 --> 01:17:01.714
These are my fantasies.
01:17:01.926 --> 01:17:07.713
And that's when I think a lot of like the passionate
scenes that I had in "Pirates," you know...
01:17:07.932 --> 01:17:11.934
Um, that intensity was
really starting to come out.
01:17:16.899 --> 01:17:18.685
I wouldn't change a thing.
01:17:18.901 --> 01:17:23.687
At the time, there was a lot of glamour
and a lot of fun, and a lot of camaraderie.
01:17:23.906 --> 01:17:26.489
That was, that was a good time.
01:17:26.701 --> 01:17:29.693
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
01:17:29.912 --> 01:17:31.118
Oh, my god.
01:17:31.330 --> 01:17:34.288
Fuck. Yes, yes.
01:17:34.500 --> 01:17:36.353
I'd like to think I was political
before, and that was-
01:17:36.377 --> 01:17:38.835
- a large part of my motivation
getting into the industry-
01:17:39.046 --> 01:17:45.379
- was to disprove the status quo about
women, uh, and, and, and female sexuality.
01:17:47.722 --> 01:17:51.514
The more I watched porn, the more I
realized that this is something I could do-
01:17:51.684 --> 01:17:55.018
- and, and maybe I could bring
something different to it as well.
01:17:56.522 --> 01:17:59.472
When Sasha Grey first contacted
me, this is what she wrote me.
01:17:59.692 --> 01:18:02.309
"I hunger for all modes
of sexual perversity."
01:18:02.528 --> 01:18:05.737
I'm determined and ready to be a commodity
that fulfills everyone's fantasies.
01:18:05.865 --> 01:18:10.904
Available for solo, stills,
girl/girl, boy/girl, boy/boy/girl,
01:18:11.120 --> 01:18:14.700
- DP, double vag,
interracial, throat gagging,
01:18:14.916 --> 01:18:20.456
- creampies, BDSM, fetish, facials, "bachelor
parties, and groups of no more than four."
01:18:20.671 --> 01:18:22.662
She's cool.
01:18:22.882 --> 01:18:24.748
Sasha is, is deep.
01:18:24.967 --> 01:18:28.092
We're remaking "Deep Throat,"
so I want to meet her.
01:18:28.304 --> 01:18:30.136
The new "Deep Throat"
is a huge movie.
01:18:30.348 --> 01:18:33.952
It's important. It's the biggest movie,
you know, this company has ever made.
01:18:33.976 --> 01:18:40.146
It took us a long time to decide who
could really pull it off, and it's Sasha.
01:18:40.358 --> 01:18:43.850
Steven Soderbergh looked her up,
and found the Myspace page.
01:18:44.070 --> 01:18:45.481
Contacted her through that.
01:18:45.696 --> 01:18:51.942
I didn't want anybody other than
Sasha, for "Girlfriend Experience."
01:18:52.161 --> 01:18:54.027
Once I'd spoken to her,
01:18:54.247 --> 01:18:56.784
- I really felt I wanted
to build it around her,
01:18:56.999 --> 01:19:02.244
- and I sort of cast everybody else
based on what I was getting from her.
01:19:02.463 --> 01:19:06.460
I'm very familiar with his work,
and it was flattering, to be honest,
01:19:06.676 --> 01:19:08.792
- uh, but also
extremely intimidating.
01:19:09.011 --> 01:19:11.002
He's an incredibly
intelligent human being.
01:19:11.222 --> 01:19:16.220
I found this, it's kind of a really
interesting dichotomy with her of, of-
01:19:16.435 --> 01:19:22.814
- middle American upbringing, and sort
of extreme interest and extreme behavior.
01:19:23.025 --> 01:19:26.897
Whatever method she found
of reconciling these two things,
01:19:27.113 --> 01:19:29.480
- seemed to be working for her.
01:19:29.699 --> 01:19:33.608
He told me it would be mostly improv,
and wanted me to be comfortable with that.
01:19:33.828 --> 01:19:35.318
So how did it go?
01:19:35.538 --> 01:19:38.656
It was fine.
We had a nice dinner.
01:19:40.084 --> 01:19:42.451
You know,
went back to the hotel.
01:19:42.670 --> 01:19:48.336
But he's very well-endowed, and sometimes
I just can't handle him that long.
01:19:48.551 --> 01:19:55.464
The change, I think, largely via the internet
about people's attitudes about pornography
01:19:55.683 --> 01:20:01.352
- or just, just sex videos in general has
just completely shifted in the last ten years.
01:20:01.564 --> 01:20:08.147
Making that leap from doing hardcore
porn to shooting mainstream movies
01:20:08.362 --> 01:20:13.277
- with very well known people
is, is almost impossible.
01:20:13.492 --> 01:20:15.824
She was like Garbo-esque.
01:20:16.037 --> 01:20:19.867
So I said, well, if this is any time to take
the jump, this is it, and I did it quietly.
01:20:20.082 --> 01:20:21.493
It wasn't this big announcement.
01:20:21.709 --> 01:20:23.996
I'm not leaving anything behind.
I haven't found Jesus.
01:20:24.211 --> 01:20:27.124
I'm not trying to run away from
anything. I'm just moving on.
01:20:27.340 --> 01:20:28.924
What made her a great porn-star?
01:20:29.050 --> 01:20:33.259
Besides the fact that she was really
good looking, she was a pervert,
01:20:33.471 --> 01:20:36.880
- and nobody could bullshit her,
because she was like usually smarter-
01:20:37.099 --> 01:20:38.683
- than most of the
people shooting her.
01:20:40.603 --> 01:20:43.061
Some names are bigger than others.
01:20:43.272 --> 01:20:48.103
And the top two greatest adult stars
of all time share one thing in common,
01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:50.686
- they're erotic icons.
01:20:50.905 --> 01:20:53.488
They check every box
for what makes a legend.
01:20:53.699 --> 01:20:55.315
Longevity?
Check.
01:20:55.534 --> 01:20:58.492
Mainstream popularity?
Double check.
01:20:58.704 --> 01:21:00.945
Sexual prowess?
Check.
01:21:01.165 --> 01:21:02.371
Looks?
01:21:02.583 --> 01:21:06.250
Well, women of the '70s and '80s
found him very handsome,
01:21:06.462 --> 01:21:09.079
- and men still drool over her.
01:21:09.298 --> 01:21:12.878
There are no two bigger names
in the history of adult cinema
01:21:13.094 --> 01:21:17.963
- than our greatest male and
female adult stars of all time.
01:21:18.182 --> 01:21:19.388
♪ You're a winner ♪“
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:21.307
♪ That's what you are ♪
01:21:21.519 --> 01:21:22.975
♪ Believe it or not ♪
01:21:23.187 --> 01:21:24.803
♪ You know ♪
♪ You're really a star ♪
01:21:25.022 --> 01:21:26.808
♪ And so happy... ♪
01:21:27.024 --> 01:21:28.377
Let's talk about fame.
01:21:28.401 --> 01:21:31.818
Uh, most famous guy in porn
worldwide has gotta be Ron Jeremy.
01:21:32.029 --> 01:21:35.613
Without ever
having had a publicist,
01:21:35.825 --> 01:21:39.238
without every having
had an agent or a manager,
01:21:39.453 --> 01:21:47.166
- has managed to become the
most famous pop culture icon.
01:21:47.378 --> 01:21:48.994
I mean, he transcends porn.
01:21:49.213 --> 01:21:51.796
People don't think of
Ron Jeremy as a porn-star.
01:21:52.008 --> 01:21:55.467
People think of Ron Jeremy
as a famous person.
01:21:55.678 --> 01:21:57.294
I was there in the golden era,
01:21:57.513 --> 01:22:00.701
- that's what they call it, the golden era,
I was there right smack in the middle of it.
01:22:00.725 --> 01:22:02.285
I was going back and forth,
L.A. to New York.
01:22:02.309 --> 01:22:07.141
I heard that his dick was so big that he
actually could like, you know, go on himself.
01:22:07.356 --> 01:22:09.393
Go suck yourself off, she says.
01:22:09.608 --> 01:22:10.973
Charming.
01:22:11.193 --> 01:22:13.130
I first got into porn
thinking I'd just be in it-
01:22:13.154 --> 01:22:15.361
- for maybe just a couple
of weeks, a few months.
01:22:15.573 --> 01:22:17.484
See what it's like and then get out.
01:22:19.452 --> 01:22:21.577
So I started doing all the
bigger films in New York.
01:22:24.248 --> 01:22:27.164
"Bad Girls" had a cute little
story where I was a boy scout.
01:22:27.376 --> 01:22:29.037
Hello.
01:22:29.253 --> 01:22:30.789
Oh, my goodness!
01:22:31.005 --> 01:22:32.336
- Please.
- What do you want?
01:22:32.548 --> 01:22:34.539
I'd like some of that pussy,
if you don't mind.
01:22:34.759 --> 01:22:39.426
So he's infiltrated media in like
all its forms, mainstream and porn.
01:22:39.638 --> 01:22:41.094
And he's fantastic.
01:22:41.307 --> 01:22:42.388
He's a really good actor.
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.718
He's like the essential ham.
01:22:45.936 --> 01:22:50.137
As an actor, when he's awake,
great performance.
01:22:50.357 --> 01:22:52.064
Adam Rifkin is
the nicest guy I know-
01:22:52.276 --> 01:22:54.337
- and the greatest guy I know,
and I have to say this-
01:22:54.361 --> 01:22:56.568
- or he'll stop giving
me parts in movies,
01:22:56.781 --> 01:22:59.593
- the guy is easy and he's been more
loyal than anybody on the planet.
01:22:59.617 --> 01:23:03.989
I made this movie called "Detroit Rock
City," and obviously to play the emcee-
01:23:04.205 --> 01:23:08.119
- at the male strip
club was an easy one.
01:23:08.334 --> 01:23:10.450
That was our viking,
Patrick Hirsch,
01:23:10.669 --> 01:23:12.564
- and he's hung like a Norse.
01:23:12.588 --> 01:23:16.173
Our next amateur has a name like a bird,
and if you like birds, you'll like this.
01:23:16.217 --> 01:23:17.673
It's just a swallow.
01:23:17.885 --> 01:23:19.780
I'd never heard of him
before I got in the industry.
01:23:19.804 --> 01:23:24.180
I saw him on MTV, uh, when
he was doing a reality tv show.
01:23:24.391 --> 01:23:27.892
And that's the impression I had of him,
not as a sexpert, just him being funny.
01:23:28.104 --> 01:23:32.042
I have a feeling there're gonna be a lot
of people who are dead set against-
01:23:32.066 --> 01:23:35.858
- what I do for a living, maybe religious,
could be born again, you know.
01:23:36.070 --> 01:23:37.672
So I have a gut feeling
that I'm gonna come across-
01:23:37.696 --> 01:23:40.779
- some adversarial opinions
as to my career choices.
01:23:40.991 --> 01:23:43.699
In "Orgazmo,"
we do a martial art fight.
01:23:43.911 --> 01:23:46.369
At the end, he gets the
Orgazmo's gun on me,
01:23:46.580 --> 01:23:51.119
- and I freeze up, kicks me in the
head, my head literally blows up.
01:23:51.335 --> 01:23:57.251
"Boon Dock Saints" is by far the biggest
thing I've ever done as far as an audience.
01:23:57.466 --> 01:24:00.254
Sit the fuck down.
01:24:00.469 --> 01:24:02.961
All these stars,
when they see Ron Jeremy,
01:24:03.180 --> 01:24:05.700
- they drop whatever they do, I've seen
it, drop whatever they do. Oh, my god.
01:24:05.724 --> 01:24:06.910
Get a picture with Ron Jeremy.
01:24:06.934 --> 01:24:08.720
Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love-
01:24:08.936 --> 01:24:11.456
- went running over to him for
an autograph when they saw him.
01:24:11.480 --> 01:24:14.768
George Bush, Sr. was
walking the other way having,
01:24:14.984 --> 01:24:16.818
- he was just President
of The United States,
01:24:16.902 --> 01:24:21.820
- as they're passing, he hears
George bush say, hello, Ron.
01:24:22.032 --> 01:24:25.650
That's why I attribute my
longevity to just a lot of hard work,
01:24:25.870 --> 01:24:27.829
- a lot of classical movies
from the golden era,
01:24:27.913 --> 01:24:32.032
- and also a lot of mainstream.
It's amazing for all the things-
01:24:32.251 --> 01:24:35.960
- that Ron Jeremy has
seen and done in his life,
01:24:36.172 --> 01:24:38.789
- how he manages to maintain
a sense of innocence.
01:24:39.008 --> 01:24:42.922
And I swear to you, he is a,
he's like an innocent kid-
01:24:43.137 --> 01:24:48.843
- in the body of this...
Hideous monster.
01:24:49.059 --> 01:24:50.871
Listen, I'm gonna say goodbye
now while I kiss these nipples.
01:24:50.895 --> 01:24:53.390
Look how and they're cold,
they stick out even more.
01:24:57.735 --> 01:24:59.726
Why is Jenna so popular?
01:24:59.945 --> 01:25:02.312
She was maybe not even arguably-
01:25:02.531 --> 01:25:06.149
- the most successful,
the most well marketed,
01:25:06.368 --> 01:25:09.326
- the best selling
porn-star of all time.
01:25:09.538 --> 01:25:12.200
Jenna might've had a little
bit of that Ginger Lynn thing-
01:25:12.416 --> 01:25:16.034
- where she just looked so
young and sweet and innocent-
01:25:16.253 --> 01:25:19.621
- and looked like the
last place she should be-
01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:21.501
- was looking to
get into this business.
01:25:21.717 --> 01:25:26.427
And I thought I could
do it better, you know.
01:25:26.639 --> 01:25:33.180
I just always felt that way all my life,
that I was capable of topping everyone.
01:25:33.395 --> 01:25:36.061
That's the shot you'd see in
your magazine, folks, right there.
01:25:36.273 --> 01:25:38.389
Yeah.
01:25:40.694 --> 01:25:42.059
Yeah.
01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:44.111
I read Jenna Jameson's book
01:25:44.323 --> 01:25:45.823
"How to make love like a porn-star,"
01:25:45.908 --> 01:25:49.860
- and I, I was so attracted to
the industry from those pages.
01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:53.663
Jenna and I shot our
first movie on the same day.
01:25:53.874 --> 01:25:57.037
- I'm Kylie.
- And I'm Jenna. I'm 19.
01:25:57.253 --> 01:26:01.583
'Cause, I mean, here's little Jenna, and she's
a little blonde, perfect little tiny boobs,
01:26:01.799 --> 01:26:03.335
- and she was
asking me about mine.
01:26:03.550 --> 01:26:04.945
She's like, where'd you get yours?
They're great.
01:26:04.969 --> 01:26:06.926
What doctor did them?
01:26:07.137 --> 01:26:09.219
I'm like don't touch those.
Those are perfect.
01:26:09.431 --> 01:26:11.172
Look, back in '95,
01:26:11.392 --> 01:26:15.181
- while the business was
starting to go through a growth,
01:26:15.396 --> 01:26:18.514
- it was still only two
years into Wicked Pictures.
01:26:18.732 --> 01:26:22.808
I just said, listen, you can
either jump on the Jenna train-
01:26:23.028 --> 01:26:25.190
- or I'm out,
and this is what I want.
01:26:25.406 --> 01:26:28.899
Give it to me
and I will skyrocket.
01:26:29.118 --> 01:26:30.483
We signed Jenna,
01:26:30.703 --> 01:26:35.576
- and it didn't take very long
for Jenna to become the big deal.
01:26:37.751 --> 01:26:40.826
Even then, you knew that Jenna
was gonna be something big.
01:26:41.046 --> 01:26:43.037
She'd already started
to climb that ladder,
01:26:43.257 --> 01:26:47.000
- and she was already
Jenna vs. Jenna Jameson.
01:26:47.219 --> 01:26:50.632
I just had larger than life ideas.
01:26:50.848 --> 01:26:54.973
Jenna was winning Best Actress,
Best Sex Scene, Starlet of the Year.
01:26:55.185 --> 01:26:56.926
One of her movies
we did won Best Film.
01:26:57.146 --> 01:27:00.184
So it was really a quick ride.
01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:03.482
I was starting to gain momentum.
01:27:03.694 --> 01:27:06.402
I knew I was capable
of so much more.
01:27:06.613 --> 01:27:10.447
She was everywhere.
01:27:10.659 --> 01:27:13.868
Again, she was not
just on the porn sets.
01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:15.820
She was in movies.
01:27:16.040 --> 01:27:21.918
You have to be a stripper with a
take no prisoners raw survival instinct.
01:27:23.339 --> 01:27:25.797
She was on talk shows.
01:27:26.008 --> 01:27:27.498
I can't believe it.
01:27:27.718 --> 01:27:29.654
I'm looking at your pictures.
You could be a model.
01:27:29.678 --> 01:27:31.043
Thank you.
01:27:31.163 --> 01:27:34.372
By this time, she already
knew what was going on.
01:27:34.583 --> 01:27:37.575
She knew how to light things
and she knew how to direct-
01:27:37.795 --> 01:27:39.689
- and she knew the kind of
scenes that she wanted to do.
01:27:39.713 --> 01:27:41.078
She owned all that.
01:27:41.298 --> 01:27:47.092
This ls a male dominated industry,
and I can crack it open.
01:27:47.304 --> 01:27:49.966
I started my own company,
club Jenna.
01:27:50.182 --> 01:27:53.015
I think Jenna Jameson
was super business savvy,
01:27:53.227 --> 01:27:57.971
- and she, you know, had a whole
idea of how her career was gonna go-
01:27:58.190 --> 01:28:04.819
- and exactly the moves she was going to make
in order for her to have longevity in adult-
01:28:05.030 --> 01:28:11.321
- and also to make tons and tons of money at a time
in the business, when, you know, it was opportune.
01:28:11.537 --> 01:28:14.575
I shot my own movies
for my company,
01:28:14.790 --> 01:28:18.704
- and I also did a licensing!
Distribution deal with Vivid,
01:28:18.919 --> 01:28:20.205
- which was ground breaking,
01:28:20.421 --> 01:28:24.588
like changed things for the whole
industry when they saw those numbers.
01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:30.090
Then I got to direct her in, in
uh, "The Masseuse," of course,
01:28:30.306 --> 01:28:31.512
- and "Devil in Miss Jones,"
01:28:31.724 --> 01:28:33.761
- and two of the best
movies I've ever done.
01:28:33.976 --> 01:28:36.092
Well, things are about to change.
01:28:37.646 --> 01:28:40.638
You can have anything you want.
01:28:40.858 --> 01:28:42.098
Oh...
01:28:48.032 --> 01:28:50.273
She became somewhat
of a control freak.
01:28:50.492 --> 01:28:52.904
I felt myself like ramping up.
01:28:53.120 --> 01:28:55.908
I was like, okay,
I'm starting to get this.
01:28:56.123 --> 01:28:58.660
She got so much
adulation so quickly.
01:28:58.876 --> 01:29:01.743
I couldn't go anywhere without
people screaming my name.
01:29:01.962 --> 01:29:05.000
And she didn't handle it
as well as she might have.
01:29:05.215 --> 01:29:07.297
It was, it kind of blew my mind.
01:29:07.509 --> 01:29:10.627
I saw her become
a caricature of herself.
01:29:10.846 --> 01:29:14.589
It was like being Julia Roberts
when she got her Oscar, you know.
01:29:14.808 --> 01:29:18.517
She seemed to start
to become less happy.
01:29:18.729 --> 01:29:20.686
I played the part.
01:29:20.898 --> 01:29:22.730
I worked it.
I brought glamour.
01:29:22.941 --> 01:29:25.808
I never did anything half-ass.
01:29:26.028 --> 01:29:30.108
I think it was the right girl,
the right time,
01:29:30.324 --> 01:29:34.449
- the right company, and all
things were aligned, and it worked.
01:29:34.661 --> 01:29:36.953
Do I think it's possible to
do that again on that level?
01:29:37.081 --> 01:29:38.537
I don't.
01:29:38.749 --> 01:29:41.707
I think she is probably
the biggest star of all time-
01:29:41.919 --> 01:29:44.502
- because I don't think
that can happen again.
01:29:46.173 --> 01:29:50.383
It's fair to say this
list is far from complete.
01:29:50.594 --> 01:29:52.881
Dozens of other
larger than life legends-
01:29:53.097 --> 01:29:55.213
- deserve to have
their stories told,
01:29:55.432 --> 01:29:58.174
- performers who've contributed
to the adult industry-
01:29:58.394 --> 01:30:02.728
- in unique and important ways,
many of whom continue to.
01:30:02.940 --> 01:30:04.851
But when it comes
to the modern porn industry,
01:30:05.067 --> 01:30:07.729
- which began in actual movie
theaters five decades ago-
01:30:07.945 --> 01:30:11.404
- and continues on
hand-held devices today,
01:30:11.615 --> 01:30:17.152
- these are the stars who have shined
the brightest, and rocked us the hardest.
01:30:17.371 --> 01:30:18.827
I'm Mr. Skin.
01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:20.200
Good night.
01:30:27.172 --> 01:30:28.662
Woman excellent.
01:30:28.882 --> 01:30:30.293
I'm the best clapper ever.
01:30:30.509 --> 01:30:32.420
Nice.
01:30:32.636 --> 01:30:36.254
I have spent quite a
bit of time with ginger.
01:30:36.473 --> 01:30:38.714
She will never cease
to chase me around-
01:30:38.934 --> 01:30:42.973
- with a dildo or a strap-on
or taking off my clothes,
01:30:43.188 --> 01:30:45.270
- and that's, that's ginger.
01:30:46.733 --> 01:30:48.644
I hated those scarves.
01:30:48.861 --> 01:30:50.397
The scarves were provided.
01:30:50.612 --> 01:30:56.482
There's enough cum on those scarves
to start a whole new population of people.
01:30:56.702 --> 01:31:00.115
Something that I've never
revealed about myself.
01:31:00.330 --> 01:31:01.616
I have a big giant penis.
01:31:01.832 --> 01:31:04.039
It's just, it's tucked
inside my vagina.
01:31:04.251 --> 01:31:05.585
That's what I
was gonna tell you.
01:31:05.627 --> 01:31:06.627
Is it good?
01:31:06.670 --> 01:31:07.455
Come on.
01:31:07.671 --> 01:31:08.877
I mean, you know, DP?
01:31:09.089 --> 01:31:10.381
That's kind of a natural thing.
01:31:10.591 --> 01:31:14.128
If there's another guy in the picture,
you know, you got the extra hole.
01:31:15.637 --> 01:31:17.253
And she was a wild girl.
01:31:17.473 --> 01:31:19.965
Cubans are wild.
Don't you know Cubans?
01:31:20.184 --> 01:31:22.642
They got that nice round
ass and they're wild, man.
01:31:22.853 --> 01:31:24.969
My famous line was, you know,
01:31:25.189 --> 01:31:28.102
You wanna twat sandwich, baby?
01:31:28.317 --> 01:31:30.809
Where she had the biggest
clit and the largest pussy lips-
01:31:31.028 --> 01:31:35.230
- at that particular time, which,
I'm a freak, and so that immediately-
01:31:35.449 --> 01:31:39.901
- got me fanatically involved with like
sucking and swallowing them down.
01:31:40.120 --> 01:31:43.078
I had a pimp,
which he got paid 40%.
01:31:43.290 --> 01:31:46.248
I took 60 'cause I had to
get a boyfriend out of jail.
01:31:46.460 --> 01:31:47.575
So I'm used to those days.
01:31:47.794 --> 01:31:49.284
Hippie girls,
hair under their arms,
01:31:49.505 --> 01:31:51.712
- all that kind of stuff.
Hair all over their legs.
01:31:51.924 --> 01:31:54.008
You couldn't see the pussy.
It was all like a tree.
01:31:54.134 --> 01:31:57.631
You had to like take a rake and like
rake it out to get even to see anything.
01:31:57.846 --> 01:32:00.213
And each scene was connected,
not separate scenes.
01:32:00.432 --> 01:32:03.140
Everything flowed
like a river or something.
01:32:03.352 --> 01:32:05.519
- And a lot of pubic hairs.
- They were all so hairy.
01:32:05.562 --> 01:32:07.974
Pubic hair.
There was a lot of hair.
01:32:08.190 --> 01:32:13.184
And she had pubic hair.
01:32:13.403 --> 01:32:16.271
And lots of it.
I was just gonna say that.
01:32:16.490 --> 01:32:19.323
The first time I had a
strange dick in my hairy pussy.
01:32:19.535 --> 01:32:20.946
It was the '80s.
01:32:21.161 --> 01:32:22.764
I'd probably been in
the business a few months.
01:32:22.788 --> 01:32:24.870
I still was a little nervous
about the business,
01:32:25.082 --> 01:32:28.704
- and now they have me driving out to the
hinterlands, for this shoot, and I'm sure
01:32:28.919 --> 01:32:31.873
- that I'm gonna get killed out there,
and buried in an avocado grove.
01:32:32.089 --> 01:32:34.797
Whoa.
Sorry.
01:32:35.008 --> 01:32:37.841
That was so compelling,
you lost your balance.
01:32:38.053 --> 01:32:40.507
I was impressed by both the
ladies in that scene, actually.
01:32:40.722 --> 01:32:43.259
I saw that about to happen.
01:32:43.475 --> 01:32:46.685
There's a whole bunch of producers
I had to sleep with to get a lot of jobs.
01:32:46.728 --> 01:32:48.059
No, I'm just...
01:32:48.272 --> 01:32:51.014
- I hope not.
- Slept with two of 'em at least.
01:32:51.233 --> 01:32:54.045
And one that took you to a Barry
Manilow concert. She called me up...
01:32:54.069 --> 01:32:55.855
Dude, but they
made me stars, though.
01:32:56.071 --> 01:32:57.131
I slept with the
right producers, I swear.
01:32:57.155 --> 01:32:58.441
Which ones off the record?
01:32:58.657 --> 01:33:01.991
I guess "Deep Throat"
was such a big event.
01:33:02.202 --> 01:33:03.943
People were going
to see "Deep Throat."
01:33:04.162 --> 01:33:06.496
It wasn't a very good movie,
but people wanted to see it.
01:33:06.582 --> 01:33:10.408
I guess part of it was Linda had, you
know, had kind of a sweet look to her.
01:33:10.627 --> 01:33:12.564
She was a filthy little whore,
but she had a sweet look to her.
01:33:12.588 --> 01:33:18.083
I really just love the whole idea
that she has with the whole thing.
01:33:18.302 --> 01:33:20.543
I just went blah, blah,
blah in my head.
01:33:20.762 --> 01:33:23.220
And I'm like blah, blah, blah.
01:33:23.432 --> 01:33:26.473
My first blow-job, and I'm
looking everybody in the eye,
01:33:26.685 --> 01:33:28.471
- 'cause there's like
30 people on the set.
01:33:28.687 --> 01:33:30.473
Welcome to my blow-job.
01:33:30.689 --> 01:33:32.350
Welcome to my blow-job.
Is this cool?
01:33:32.566 --> 01:33:35.308
I did ten films with Veronica Hart.
01:33:35.527 --> 01:33:37.277
And then we were
talking about our parents,
01:33:37.487 --> 01:33:40.980
- and my father worked out
at the test site out in Nevada.
01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:42.949
What a nice thing,
your father makes bombs.
01:33:43.076 --> 01:33:44.532
How nice.
01:33:44.745 --> 01:33:47.203
I came down hard on her.
I said your father's a murderer.
01:33:47.414 --> 01:33:49.530
All of a sudden,
R. Bolla was saying-
01:33:49.750 --> 01:33:53.454
- that my dad was the cause
of everything wrong in the world.
01:33:53.670 --> 01:33:57.463
I saw that she was hurt,
so I told her I was sorry.
01:33:57.674 --> 01:33:58.880
I really did.
01:33:59.092 --> 01:34:02.210
I said I'm really sorry
that I hate your father.
01:34:02.429 --> 01:34:03.429
No.
01:34:05.390 --> 01:34:06.425
Well done.
01:34:08.060 --> 01:34:11.519
I know who I fucked
and when I fucked 'em.
01:34:11.730 --> 01:34:16.565
Log on to
gingerlynnauctions.com, and bid...
01:34:16.777 --> 01:34:18.563
No, I burped.
I burped.
01:34:18.779 --> 01:34:20.315
Here's a little tidbit about Ron.
01:34:20.530 --> 01:34:25.445
And Ron is desperate
to be in mainstream movies.
01:34:25.661 --> 01:34:30.370
And I think to his detriment he
has become, through his own doing,
01:34:30.582 --> 01:34:35.701
- too famous to be taken seriously as
an actor the way he would like to be.
01:34:35.921 --> 01:34:37.857
So you just see Ron Jeremy
you go, oh, it's Ron Jeremy.
01:34:37.881 --> 01:34:40.293
You don't see Ron Jeremy
playing like the office guy-
01:34:40.509 --> 01:34:41.944
- or Ron Jeremy
playing the attorney.
01:34:41.968 --> 01:34:44.005
It's like Ron Jeremy
playing the attorney.
01:34:44.221 --> 01:34:49.007
The only way to actually to be the king
of porn is like to, uh, kill Ron Jeremy.
01:34:59.945 --> 01:35:01.982
Just smack it.
Excellent.
01:35:02.155 --> 01:35:03.716
Actually, I would
like to do that again.
01:35:03.740 --> 01:35:04.821
Let's slate again please.
01:35:05.305 --> 01:36:05.496
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