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[Greg Kelley] I do believe that
wrongs need to be made right.
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[female reporter] The judge
in Williamson County has just
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ruled that he should
be declared innocent.
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[male reporter] Judge King
said that his attorney
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in his first trial was
ineffective.
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[Shawn Dick] You know, the
judge did find bad faith
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on the part of the Cedar
Park Police Department.
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I've never woken up in the
morning and wondered:
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did we get the wrong guy?
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It won't be over until the
Court of Criminal Appeals
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issues its decision.
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The Court of Criminal Appeals
can ignore that
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and go the other way.
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Which means he has to
go back into prison.
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[Greg] I simply don't know
where I'm going to be
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in six months.
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I don't even know if I'm
going to be exonerated yet.
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We believe that he's com--
he's committed a crime
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and-and we intend to prove it.
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[Keith] The search warrant
affidavit is a 180.
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This was a drive-by
character assassination.
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It seems like the
higher I'm getting,
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he's going to find something
to smash me into the ground.
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My worry, as I sit here
right now,
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is how could we be defeated?
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How could this all be
taken away from him?
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[soft dramatic music]
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I followed the case
a little bit.
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Um,
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I kind of grew up
dancing in the same,
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like, area as Gaebri.
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The only thing that I knew
really about the case
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was that, um,
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Greg was accused of
molesting a child,
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potentially two.
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And that's really
all that I knew.
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So the first time that
I met Johnathan was
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either like June
or July of 2014.
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Um, he was tagging along
with one of his friends
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to come meet my friend Emily.
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Um.
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Johnathan and I were
sitting in the driveway
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waiting for them to get back.
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And he started kind of
talking about
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how he'd had a rough year,
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um, and brought up,
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"I don't know if you know
what's going on
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with my best friend, Greg."
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And I had kind of heard
of it and I was like,
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"Yeah, I know a little bit."
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And he just said that
it was really rough
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and he was doing bad in school
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and something happened
with football,
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like he got kicked out of
football or something,
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and, um, that it looked
like his best friend
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was going to go to prison.
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I met Johnathan
when I was 15.
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And he raped me two weeks
before I turned 16.
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And that was within
maybe a month or two
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of Greg being officially
convicted.
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[Greg] Today is January 9th.
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Um, it's a Wednesday.
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And it's another Wednesday of
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finding out if relief granted
is going to be here or not.
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Who knows, you know?
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Stuff happens when you
least expect it sometimes.
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All right, here we go.
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[Greg] Yeah, I was arrested,
um, July of '13.
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Can you believe it's
been that long?
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That is six years, that I'm
coming up on six years?
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And then I looked at these
pictures of me in 2013 to now.
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I was like a kid, you know.
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I looked like a kid,
of course.
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I mean I-I didn't-- I didn't
totally act like my age
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but I was a kid.
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I had no idea what
I was getting into.
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I did-- I had no idea what
the other side of that door
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looked like if I got convicted.
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Yeah.
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[Greg] Mm-hmm.
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Twenty-four.
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Twenty-four.
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[male] Thank you, Mr. Chairman
and members.
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Uh, unlike 48 other states,
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Texas requires that all
post-conviction applications
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for writ of habeas corpus
be approved
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or denied by the Texas Court
of Criminal Appeals.
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There is one small group of
cases that could be handled
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more expeditiously.
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These cases are ones in
which the trial court
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and the state and this--
the district attorney
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agree that the defendant
is deserving of relief.
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State your name.
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My name is Patricia Cummings
and I represent the
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Innocence Project of Texas.
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And I'm here today to
testify in support of 1273.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman,
I'm Gary Udashen.
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I am the, uh, board president
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of the Innocence Project
of Texas.
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And I'm here on behalf of the
Innocence Project of Texas.
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We are in favor of this bill.
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[Keith] In April of 2017,
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four months before
the writ hearing,
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Patricia Cummings and what
would later become her lawyer,
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Gary Udashen, appear
before a Senate committee
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along with Stacey Soule,
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the State Prosecuting Attorney.
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My name is Stacey Soule,
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and I'm from the State
Prosecuting Attorney's Office.
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I'm the State Prosecuting
Attorney and I'm here for you
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as a resource witness today.
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The State Prosecuting Attorney
is appointed by the
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Court of Criminal Appeals to
represent the State
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before that court.
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We have, uh, worked with the
State Prosecuting Attorney,
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Ms. Soule, today to craft
some of these ad--
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this additional language
to address some concerns
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that have been raised.
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The three of them,
Gary Udashen,
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Patricia Cummings,
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and SPA Stacey Soule,
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they were working together,
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urging that they pass a bill
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that would entitle local
people who agree that,
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s-say, someone's innocent w--
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and save them from having
to go through the CCA.
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Locally, the DA and the
local judge could agree
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and then that person would
not only be free on bond
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but would be exonerated.
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And it would be over.
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[Patricia] Nobody wants
somebody to spend any
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time in prison if they're
innocent of that crime.
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If we allow the existing
law to go in-in-- um,
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unchallenged, unchanged,
essentially what we have
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is we have situations where
prosecutors and trial judges
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make a decision that a person's
conviction should be vacated,
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yet because we have that
extra layer of review
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then although this person
could get out of prison,
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they would be placed on bond.
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And so they're living
in legal limbo.
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And so we do
support this bill.
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We think it is good
for the State.
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And we think when just one
person is affected like that
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and we could do better,
why not?
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When they're representing the
Innocence Project of Texas,
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they're all for local
DAs and judges
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immediately exonerating
people so they don't have to
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go through the CCA.
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Fast forward just a few months
later and not so much.
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By August, where you've
got a DA and a judge
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that want to do exactly that,
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that are in agreement that
we've got an innocent man
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and let's save
him some time,
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behind the scenes,
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unbeknownst to any of us,
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Patricia Cummings and her
then lawyer, Gary Udashen,
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along with her
other two lawyers,
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are working together with
the SPA to deny Greg
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the very thing that they
publicly said they
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wanted to see enacted
into the law.
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Greg's former attorney,
Patricia Cummings,
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has filed an amicus brief
to influence the court
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against Greg, 95 pages
pounding your former client
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who you said was innocent
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and playing yourself up
as the victim.
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And they worked and
prepared a brief,
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and now we know they worked
together with the SPA
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to produce these amicus briefs
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before the Court of
Criminal Appeals.
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There are e-mails that
reflect that Gary Udashen,
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one of Patricia's attorneys,
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reached out to the State
Prosecuting Attorney
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for assistance against the
ineffective assistance claim
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to help Patricia Cummings.
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December 26th, uh,
Gary Udashen writes
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to the State Prosecuting
Attorney:
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"Stacey, I thought you might
be interested in this brief."
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And so that's
December 26th, 2017.
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They've arranged a meeting.
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By January 2nd, Stacey,
confirming that
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"David Botsford and I will
see you tomorrow at 2,"
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later that afternoon Stacey
says, "Yes. See you then."
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So they're meeting about the
Greg Kelley case together.
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[laughs] I can't.
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Uh, this one is dated
Tuesday, August 22nd.
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And it says, "Stacey"
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and it has 12 lines
that are blacked out.
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Don't know what it says.
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Love to find out.
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So I don't know what they
said behind closed doors
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but it's not difficult for me
to infer it-it's the same team.
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They're all on the same team.
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And, yes, it's-it's, uh,
stark for a defense lawyer
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to profess with this urgency
and apparent passion
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for their client and then
privately get with the
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State Prosecuting Attorney
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and execute two affidavits to
completely undermine
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the person you're claiming
you believe is innocent.
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We're thrilled to have
Patricia Cummings from the
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Philadelphia District
Attorney's Office.
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And she is sort of an icon
in the conviction integrity
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world, which is why we
wanted to have her
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come and speak today.
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Um, thank you very, Mark.
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It's-it's a
pleasure to be here.
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I'm going to add just a little
bit to my background
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so you can understand why
I'm asking the question:
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why choose to go to the moon?
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Um, I tried a case where I
believed my young client,
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who was 18 years old, was
actually innocent of what
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he was accused of committing.
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I went in and tried the case.
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It was the hardest case
of my career,
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and I lost.
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And my client was ser-- uh,
sentenced to serve 25 years
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day for day in prison,
and it was for,
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like I said, something
I believe he didn't do.
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[Keith] I've never seen this at
the Court of Criminal Appeals.
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Patricia Cummings' attorneys,
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they're elevating their
own self-interests
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above somebody who has been
found to be innocent.
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And-and their actions
could jeopardize,
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even conceivably defeat,
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his innocence claim.
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What's happened is we've had
this national conversation
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about how horrifying
it is to recognize
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that our criminal
justice system,
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probably the best in the world,
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actually convicts
innocent people.
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And it's horrific not only
because of the defendant
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who gets wrongfully convicted
and is innocent
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and sitting in prison,
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but it's also horrific
because we recognize
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that when we get it
wrong on that level,
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what that means for society
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is that the real perpetrator
is still often out in society
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committing other crimes.
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[female reporter] A man
considered an alternate
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suspect in the high-profile
Greg Kelley sexual assault
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case, Johnathan McCarty:
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he's accused of drugging a
woman and sexually assaulting
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her at a frat party in
San Marcos in 2015.
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The victim was 15
years old at the time
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McCarty was 18.
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Johnathan McCarty
drugged and raped me.
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The morning after
Johnathan raped me,
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I woke up on the floor
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in a house in the
middle of nowhere.
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And under the circumstances
that it happened,
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I felt like no one
would believe me.
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And if they did,
I'd be in trouble
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because I was doing things I
shouldn't have been doing.
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I kind of just pushed it away
and tried to forget about it.
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And it wasn't until I was
sitting in my room
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like years later
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and had like five different
people text me
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within 10 minutes.
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And they all texted me
a news story
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saying that there was
a new suspect
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identified in the
Greg Kelley case
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and it was Johnathan McCarty.
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I called a family friend
who's a lawyer,
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and told him what
happened to me.
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Well, the next day I got home
and there was a Texas Ranger
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at my house, it was
Cody Mitchell.
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And before I talked to Cody,
I called up the lawyer again
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and said, "Did you say
something?
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Because there's a Texas
Ranger at my house.
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And like why are they here?"
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And he said, "No, I didn't
say anything.
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But if he's there,
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it probably means that
your name came up
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in the investigation
in some way.
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And enough things pointed to
you that they felt like
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you were of value to talk to."
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And Cody confirmed that
essentially,
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that my name had come up
enough times that he
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figured he had to talk
to me to figure out why.
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Um, and that's when I told
Cody everything that happened
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and, uh, he took it to Shawn
and we moved forward from there.
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[Shawn] Today, uh, we had
a court setting in
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Johnathan McCarty's case, uh,
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and it was our final
court setting.
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I was interested in holding
Johnathan McCarty accountable
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for, um, the, uh, the abuse,
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um, that he inflicted upon
an-an individual in our county.
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So the original charge was
sexual assault of a child.
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There were allegations of him
drugging and-and molesting
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or raping women without-without
their consent
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or without the ability
to consent.
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Uh, we had reached an
agreement in principle
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last week and set the case
for this morning.
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[dramatic somber music]
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♪♪♪
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Johnathan did this to a girl.
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He...
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he drugged and raped her.
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And then another teenage boy
getting accused of
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sexual assault of a minor,
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he's living in the same house,
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rooms are next to each other,
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look exactly the same.
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You think that's
a coincidence?
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I'm sitting here like:
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does that even put up
any red flags?
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You know?
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Like what's the--
what's the chances of that?
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Where you have a crime
th-that's occurred
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a-and you put the innocent
person in prison
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necessarily means the
other guy gets a skate
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and he's still out there.
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[Shawn] These charges have
nothing to do with the
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Greg Kelley case.
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They came about because
Johnathan McCarty was being
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looked at in the-- in
the Greg Kelley case.
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You know, I know there were
some allegations in some other
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counties but to my knowledge
they're not prosecuting those
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cases in those other counties.
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But, you know, after
consulting with the victim
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a number of times and,
uh, you know,
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deciding what's best for her,
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what's best for the County, uh,
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but still holding
Johnathan McCarty accountable,
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uh, we did agree to a plea
involving an ul--
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unlawful restraint and
a delivery of a
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controlled substance
to a minor.
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I don't expect Johnathan
to be in prison forever.
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And to be honest,
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it doesn't make a
difference to me.
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But what I care about and what
I value is that he isn't able
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to do it to someone else.
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Whatever happens, whether he
goes to prison for life
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or for four years or
doesn't go at all,
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I want to make sure
everyone knows who he is
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and what he did.
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And I want to make sure he
can't do it to anyone else
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ever again.
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And we moved forward
with that.
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In Cause Number 190249K
through 68 to the second--
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um, to the secondary
felony charge of
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delivery of a controlled
substance to a minor.
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Do you plead guilty
or not guilty?
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And in Cause Number 190250K
through 68 to the
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third degree felony charge
of unlawful restraint
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with the intent to expose a
serious bodily injury,
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do you plead guilty or
not guilty?
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Are you pleading guilty
in each of these cases
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because you are guilty
and for no other reason?
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Uh, Mr. McCarty, because your
case is unique in the fact
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that your name is probably
never going to be
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removed from Google, um,
I feel like the public notice
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requirement is-is met.
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So it's my intent and-and our
understanding of this
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plea agreement that we
are not requiring you
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and not, um-- the-the
current law,
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it-it's our understanding
that you are not going to be
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required to register as
a sex offender.
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Do you understand that?
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[Shawn] He was being sentenced
to four years in prison.
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And, uh, he also won't be
allowed to expunge
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or erase the arrest for
sexual assault.
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So he will be serving
two of those years flat.
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He will become eligible
for parole,
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but he still has a four-year
sentence to finish serving out.
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I got sent to prison
for 25 years,
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day for day, for something I
absolutely did not do.
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And I would have to,
at 44, get out
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and register for the
rest of my life.
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That is a reality.
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That's a living nightmare
for the rest of my life.
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And this guy actually admits
that he did something
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and he's going for four years
without registering?
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How does that even work?
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To me it was more valuable
that we got something
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and that Johnathan was put away,
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for however long
or however short,
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with the arrest of sexual
assault of a minor tied to that.
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And that is what happened.
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If you look up his name,
you know who he is.
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Everyone's going
to know who he is.
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So to me,
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that's enough.
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[Shawn] I was careful not to,
um, to tie our hands.
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If we learn of new information
in the future, uh,
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then we certainly can still
prosecute Johnathan McCarty.
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Uh, but at this point I'm
just not seeing anything.
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And here we are, almost two
years later into the
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Greg Kelley investigation.
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And the ball hasn't been
advanced any further
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in terms of filing a case
against Johnathan or, you know,
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Greg or the third suspect.
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And so at this time, I'm not
seeing any reason, uh,
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to move forward with any
other charges against
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Johnathan McCarty unless
something changes.
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Towards the end of
the-the process,
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before I got to acceptance
and at peace with everything
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and processed everything,
I was mad.
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And then I processed
everything,
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00:21:11,637 --> 00:21:13,887
now that all this information's
coming up of everything
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that was done wrong,
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and that what I believe now
is that what happened to me
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could have been
completely prevented,
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I'm mad again.
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My abuser was
essentially told:
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"We're not going to look at you.
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We're not going to
go to your house.
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00:21:30,845 --> 00:21:33,428
We're not going to
ask you your name.
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You're fine."
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And it--
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that just pisses me off.
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[low dramatic music]
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♪♪♪
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[traffic passing]
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[Greg] Gaebri and I have been
in New York for--
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I've been here a total
of two and a half weeks.
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Gaebri got accepted into the
Broadway Dance Center,
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uh, on a pro-semester
for dance.
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00:22:17,011 --> 00:22:19,345
But we sat down and we talked
about it and we ultimately
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made a decision that I would
come up here with her.
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00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:29,303
We've got a little 400-square-
foot studio apartment.
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00:22:29,387 --> 00:22:32,178
And, uh, so far
we're loving it.
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00:22:32,261 --> 00:22:34,970
Uh, it's kind of small but
I've been in smaller before.
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So...
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00:22:36,261 --> 00:22:41,428
[upbeat music]
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If you just do-- if you
search me right now,
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00:22:43,929 --> 00:22:49,095
it says that I'm an inmate
on the Wynne Unit of
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Hunstville, Texas and
I'm bench-warranted
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00:22:51,220 --> 00:22:52,178
to the Williamson County Jail.
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00:22:52,261 --> 00:22:54,303
It doesn't even
say that I'm free.
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00:22:54,845 --> 00:22:57,136
So...
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00:22:57,220 --> 00:22:58,887
I'm not free right now.
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00:22:58,970 --> 00:23:00,261
I'm-I'm still locked up.
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00:23:00,345 --> 00:23:02,970
And I feel that every day,
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00:23:03,053 --> 00:23:04,011
that I'm not exonerated.
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00:23:04,095 --> 00:23:06,428
I feel that every day,
that I have to--
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at 9:00 a.m. on a Wednesday
I have to, you know,
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00:23:09,929 --> 00:23:14,220
get in front of a list to see
if I'm on it so I can,
445
00:23:14,303 --> 00:23:16,470
you know, hopefully go
play football again
446
00:23:16,553 --> 00:23:19,261
because that's not even
certain either.
447
00:23:21,136 --> 00:23:23,428
This does not feel
like freedom at all.
448
00:23:23,512 --> 00:23:28,553
[dramatic music]
449
00:23:28,637 --> 00:23:33,261
After going through three
years in prison and [sighs],
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you know, having to go through
the heartaches of that place,
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00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,887
um...
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I think I now would tell myself,
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00:23:46,595 --> 00:23:50,553
my 19-year-old self,
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not to stay so quiet,
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00:23:53,095 --> 00:23:54,720
to be a little bit more brave,
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00:23:54,804 --> 00:23:58,804
to be a little bit more
courageous to say yes and no,
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00:23:58,887 --> 00:24:01,887
to make sure that I have an
attorney that cares for me
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that's looking out
for my best interest.
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00:24:06,303 --> 00:24:07,220
Because I didn't know the law.
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00:24:07,303 --> 00:24:08,387
I didn't-- I didn't study.
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00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:10,512
I didn't even
know my-my rights.
462
00:24:10,595 --> 00:24:15,720
I was trusting people
with my life that,
463
00:24:15,804 --> 00:24:19,303
you know, I had no idea that
was working against me.
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00:24:20,804 --> 00:24:21,970
So...
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00:24:24,345 --> 00:24:25,345
yeah.
466
00:24:25,428 --> 00:24:36,387
[dramatic music]
467
00:24:37,136 --> 00:24:39,512
Texas Court of
Criminal Appeals.
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00:24:42,845 --> 00:24:44,595
These are the people that are
going to be determining
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00:24:44,679 --> 00:24:46,637
my fate pretty much.
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00:24:48,637 --> 00:24:51,011
Keith was like, "This is the
longest I have ever
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00:24:51,095 --> 00:24:53,929
had a case in the CCA."
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00:24:54,845 --> 00:24:56,345
He says this is not normal.
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00:24:58,512 --> 00:24:59,345
Yeah.
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00:24:59,428 --> 00:25:01,428
They've had my case for--
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00:25:01,512 --> 00:25:04,595
since December 20th of '17.
476
00:25:06,595 --> 00:25:09,470
Yeah, it's November 6th
of '19 right now.
477
00:25:09,553 --> 00:25:17,387
[low dramatic music]
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00:25:17,470 --> 00:25:19,220
I don't think they're going
to lose sleep for sending
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00:25:19,303 --> 00:25:21,470
somebody back to prison.
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00:25:23,512 --> 00:25:26,470
I know that there's parties
that are against me
481
00:25:26,553 --> 00:25:28,053
that don't want me to
get exonerated.
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00:25:28,136 --> 00:25:29,970
And the thing I worry about
the most is:
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are these people persuading the
CCA to make bad decisions?
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00:25:38,095 --> 00:25:39,136
Well, 10:00.
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00:25:39,220 --> 00:25:41,387
You ready?
486
00:25:53,178 --> 00:25:54,553
[exhales sharply]
487
00:25:59,845 --> 00:26:01,011
Relief granted.
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00:26:03,095 --> 00:26:11,011
[crying]
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00:26:11,095 --> 00:26:12,679
Finally.
490
00:26:13,804 --> 00:26:15,512
[crying]
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00:26:15,595 --> 00:26:16,845
Thank God.
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00:26:16,929 --> 00:26:21,261
[crying]
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00:26:21,345 --> 00:26:22,512
I've got to text Gaebri.
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00:26:22,595 --> 00:26:29,261
[shakey breathing]
495
00:26:35,887 --> 00:26:38,261
Whoo, man!
496
00:26:46,220 --> 00:26:47,261
Hey, Keith?
497
00:26:49,929 --> 00:26:51,387
Oh, man, dude.
498
00:26:51,470 --> 00:26:54,720
I'm so-- I'm so pumped, dude.
499
00:26:57,470 --> 00:27:01,470
Uh, dude-- I've-I've been
freakin' stressin' all week.
500
00:27:03,136 --> 00:27:04,303
Oh, man.
501
00:27:08,220 --> 00:27:09,637
Oh, my gosh.
502
00:27:11,303 --> 00:27:12,637
This is so unreal.
503
00:27:34,637 --> 00:27:37,428
Dude, I'm in-- the past-- the
past six years of my life
504
00:27:37,512 --> 00:27:40,762
is just flashing
before my eyes right now.
505
00:27:41,553 --> 00:27:42,595
I just can't--
506
00:27:42,679 --> 00:27:44,637
man, this is--
507
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,595
this is so awesome.
508
00:27:48,679 --> 00:27:51,178
I l-- I literally feel--
I mean, I feel free.
509
00:27:56,679 --> 00:28:00,804
[unintelligible muffled talking]
510
00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:05,303
[Gaebri] [crying]
511
00:28:05,387 --> 00:28:06,679
This is over.
512
00:28:06,762 --> 00:28:13,470
[crying]
513
00:28:13,553 --> 00:28:14,428
It's over.
514
00:28:14,512 --> 00:28:18,387
[crying]
515
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:21,762
I ran so fast I'm
out of breath.
516
00:28:21,845 --> 00:28:24,303
[crying]
517
00:28:24,387 --> 00:28:25,428
This nightmare is over.
518
00:28:25,512 --> 00:28:26,804
I know, I'm so excited.
519
00:28:26,887 --> 00:28:28,428
Thank God.
520
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,970
Thank God.
521
00:28:30,053 --> 00:28:38,804
[crying]
522
00:28:43,804 --> 00:28:45,428
Oh, my gosh.
523
00:28:47,011 --> 00:28:48,345
Exonerated,
524
00:28:48,428 --> 00:28:49,887
fully exonerated.
525
00:28:51,387 --> 00:28:52,679
Or h-- what does
it say at the top?
526
00:28:52,762 --> 00:28:54,512
It doesn't matter
what it says.
527
00:28:54,595 --> 00:28:56,887
It says that relief
has been granted.
528
00:28:57,387 --> 00:28:58,762
Oh, my gosh.
529
00:29:00,428 --> 00:29:01,887
Oh, my gosh.
530
00:29:04,261 --> 00:29:05,679
Keith said that he's doing
a press conference.
531
00:29:05,762 --> 00:29:07,345
He's going to call me back.
532
00:29:07,428 --> 00:29:09,261
He says, "I'm-I'm trying to
get ex-- get you compensated
533
00:29:09,345 --> 00:29:10,595
as soon as possible."
534
00:29:10,679 --> 00:29:12,178
He says, "We're-- you're going
to get compensated,
535
00:29:12,261 --> 00:29:13,762
man, really quick."
536
00:29:13,845 --> 00:29:15,512
I just can't believe
this is happening.
537
00:29:15,595 --> 00:29:17,220
We totally thought--
- He s-- he said-- he said,
538
00:29:17,303 --> 00:29:18,553
"I've got to do a
press conference.
539
00:29:18,637 --> 00:29:20,345
I'm going to talk and we're
going to get a hearing date set
540
00:29:20,428 --> 00:29:21,512
for your exoneration.
541
00:29:21,595 --> 00:29:23,845
And everybody's going
to be there."
542
00:29:24,887 --> 00:29:26,387
It's over with.
543
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:27,804
[Gaebri] [squeals]
544
00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:30,512
This is so exciting,
545
00:29:30,595 --> 00:29:31,387
best day ever--
546
00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:32,720
what is today?
547
00:29:32,804 --> 00:29:33,553
November--
548
00:29:33,637 --> 00:29:34,428
November 6th.
549
00:29:34,512 --> 00:29:35,679
[Gaebri] November 6th.
550
00:29:35,762 --> 00:29:37,053
[Bryan Mays] He served.
551
00:29:37,136 --> 00:29:38,220
He's been out on bond now for
a couple of years
552
00:29:38,303 --> 00:29:41,720
while this whole appeals
process has played out.
553
00:29:41,804 --> 00:29:43,595
And today that came to an end.
554
00:29:43,679 --> 00:29:45,887
The Texas Court of
Criminal Appeals
555
00:29:45,970 --> 00:29:47,887
has just ruled in his favor,
556
00:29:47,970 --> 00:29:50,387
overturning the
guilty verdict against him
557
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:53,428
essentially saying Greg
Kelley didn't do it.
558
00:29:53,512 --> 00:29:55,470
[female reporter] The former
Leander High School football
559
00:29:55,553 --> 00:29:58,553
player convicted of sexually
assaulting a child
560
00:29:58,637 --> 00:30:00,053
will not go back to prison.
561
00:30:00,136 --> 00:30:01,345
[female reporter] A major
decision today from the
562
00:30:01,428 --> 00:30:04,887
state's highest criminal court
undoes the conviction of
563
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:08,011
Greg Kelley and clears his
name once and for all.
564
00:30:08,637 --> 00:30:11,303
When I read--
I had to read the phrase
565
00:30:11,387 --> 00:30:13,428
"relief granted"
two or three times
566
00:30:13,512 --> 00:30:16,679
before I punched my cell phone.
567
00:30:16,762 --> 00:30:18,929
First call of
course was to Greg.
568
00:30:19,011 --> 00:30:23,929
Um, and he, uh,
reacted, you know,
569
00:30:24,011 --> 00:30:26,929
emotionally, as you might guess.
570
00:30:27,011 --> 00:30:30,804
I just needed to reassure
him that everyone on the
571
00:30:30,887 --> 00:30:33,261
Court of Criminal Appeals
572
00:30:33,345 --> 00:30:36,553
voted in favor of
granting him relief.
573
00:30:36,637 --> 00:30:40,387
So, uh-- and he
was overjoyed.
574
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:41,929
One of the things he said was,
575
00:30:42,011 --> 00:30:45,845
uh, that the last six years of
his life flashed before him.
576
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,345
So at least he can move on.
577
00:30:51,428 --> 00:30:52,762
He's been in limbo, you know.
578
00:30:52,845 --> 00:30:54,970
He's been checking in with
a bondsman for the last
579
00:30:55,053 --> 00:30:57,428
two and a half years.
580
00:30:57,512 --> 00:31:01,220
He couldn't play ball,
uh, you know.
581
00:31:01,303 --> 00:31:02,887
I mean the guy--
582
00:31:05,512 --> 00:31:09,887
[getting choked up]
583
00:31:12,387 --> 00:31:15,679
uh, he suffered these
last two years.
584
00:31:15,762 --> 00:31:26,887
[dramatic music]
585
00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:30,512
The next step is that we're
going to set a date
586
00:31:30,595 --> 00:31:34,512
for a hearing before Judge King,
587
00:31:34,595 --> 00:31:37,679
uh, on a motion filed by
the District Attorney,
588
00:31:37,762 --> 00:31:41,804
Shawn Dick, uh, and have
a hearing
589
00:31:41,887 --> 00:31:47,679
in which he will be publicly
and very specifically, uh,
590
00:31:47,762 --> 00:31:51,553
exonerated with the sort of
language that he deserves.
591
00:31:53,387 --> 00:31:57,011
The Williamson County District
Attorney ought to be
592
00:31:57,095 --> 00:31:59,929
the person other DAs emulate.
593
00:32:00,428 --> 00:32:02,762
So you look fairly at a case
594
00:32:02,845 --> 00:32:06,011
and where you find that
your office was wrong,
595
00:32:06,095 --> 00:32:07,095
you correct it.
596
00:32:07,178 --> 00:32:09,011
And that's what he did.
597
00:32:09,095 --> 00:32:12,345
And I don't understand why
other DAs cannot--
598
00:32:12,428 --> 00:32:13,178
cannot do that.
599
00:32:13,261 --> 00:32:14,762
But he did.
600
00:32:14,845 --> 00:32:18,679
So, um, you know, today I
think really this is,
601
00:32:18,762 --> 00:32:21,011
uh, about two families.
602
00:32:21,095 --> 00:32:24,053
Um, and so the first family
I-I want to mention is, uh,
603
00:32:24,136 --> 00:32:28,595
the family of the child that's
gone through, um,
604
00:32:28,679 --> 00:32:33,011
six years of trial and retrial
and appellate proceedings.
605
00:32:33,095 --> 00:32:36,595
And so obviously, um, my
thoughts are with them today,
606
00:32:36,679 --> 00:32:38,970
um, you know, just
having to relive this.
607
00:32:39,053 --> 00:32:41,720
And it obviously isn't
ideal for any of us.
608
00:32:41,804 --> 00:32:43,720
I also think today really
is about Greg Kelley
609
00:32:43,804 --> 00:32:46,053
and his family and, um,
610
00:32:46,136 --> 00:32:48,929
you know, the relief that they
must feel at this point.
611
00:32:49,011 --> 00:32:51,720
Uh, as I said from the
very beginning,
612
00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:54,053
this case is not one that, uh--
613
00:32:54,136 --> 00:32:55,970
it's not a conviction
that we could stand by.
614
00:32:56,053 --> 00:32:58,595
It's not a case that
I could stand by.
615
00:32:58,679 --> 00:33:05,887
[low dramatic music]
616
00:33:05,970 --> 00:33:08,095
[Greg] I've never felt more
free in my whole life.
617
00:33:12,178 --> 00:33:13,804
And now that I'm free,
618
00:33:13,887 --> 00:33:16,178
I can finally go and
go do what I love,
619
00:33:16,261 --> 00:33:18,595
which is play football,
620
00:33:18,679 --> 00:33:20,428
and-and just be free
and enjoy freedom
621
00:33:20,512 --> 00:33:24,470
and the things that, you know,
being free comes with.
622
00:33:27,178 --> 00:33:29,553
I've got a lot to look forward
to and I'm-I'm just--
623
00:33:29,637 --> 00:33:30,762
I'm just happy.
624
00:33:30,845 --> 00:33:38,804
[uplifting music]
625
00:33:38,887 --> 00:33:48,553
♪♪♪
626
00:33:48,637 --> 00:33:50,303
[female reporter] Now to our
continuing coverage of the
627
00:33:50,387 --> 00:33:53,136
Greg Kelley case, several
people are calling on the
628
00:33:53,220 --> 00:33:56,470
Cedar Park City Council to
fire the police chief
629
00:33:56,553 --> 00:33:59,637
and lead detective over
that investigation.
630
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,136
Following Kelley's
conviction in 2014,
631
00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:05,136
Cedar Park Police Chief
Sean Mannix e-mailed a letter
632
00:34:05,220 --> 00:34:07,929
to his officers calling the
Fight for GK movement
633
00:34:08,011 --> 00:34:11,387
cult-like with no interest
of seeking the truth.
634
00:34:11,470 --> 00:34:14,637
Those words came back to haunt
Mannix when Kelley's case
635
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:17,679
was retried and his
conviction overturned.
636
00:34:17,762 --> 00:34:19,136
[male speaker] You have our
District Attorney,
637
00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:21,804
a Texas Ranger and a
county judge that, uh--
638
00:34:21,887 --> 00:34:24,512
investigation that was
totally inadequate.
639
00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:27,553
As a 33-y-year resident
of Cedar Park,
640
00:34:27,637 --> 00:34:30,970
I never dreamed that an
innocent young man could
641
00:34:31,053 --> 00:34:33,762
be ruined by such an
incompetent investigation.
642
00:34:33,845 --> 00:34:35,762
The only way to bring back
confidence in our
643
00:34:35,845 --> 00:34:38,637
police department is to fire
the Chief of Police
644
00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:40,970
and Detective Dailey
immediately.
645
00:34:41,053 --> 00:34:43,011
This should have changed
a long time ago.
646
00:34:43,095 --> 00:34:46,011
If this was any of your
sons or daughters,
647
00:34:46,095 --> 00:34:49,845
you wouldn't want
Dailey investigating
648
00:34:49,929 --> 00:34:52,261
allegations against them.
649
00:34:52,345 --> 00:34:56,720
You-you wouldn't want Mannix
backing up their play.
650
00:34:57,261 --> 00:34:59,011
You've got the information
to make a decision.
651
00:34:59,095 --> 00:35:00,720
You've been elected
to make a decision.
652
00:35:00,804 --> 00:35:03,887
Now either do it or
take the consequences
653
00:35:03,970 --> 00:35:05,637
of not making that decision.
654
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,220
Please do the right thing
so that you can be
655
00:35:08,303 --> 00:35:11,220
part of the solution and
not part of the problem.
656
00:35:11,887 --> 00:35:13,762
[Mayor] Also, resident
Keith Hampton,
657
00:35:13,845 --> 00:35:17,220
uh, wishes to speak on legal
clarity regarding Greg Kelley.
658
00:35:17,303 --> 00:35:19,720
Uh, Mr. Mayor,
council members, um,
659
00:35:19,804 --> 00:35:20,845
I'm Keith Hampton.
660
00:35:20,929 --> 00:35:22,512
I'm Greg Kelley's attorney.
661
00:35:22,595 --> 00:35:28,887
Um, the reason I'm really here
is I read this statement
662
00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:31,970
by the, uh, Chief of Police:
663
00:35:34,095 --> 00:35:36,970
"As Justice Newell's concurring
opinion indicates,
664
00:35:37,053 --> 00:35:40,762
this relief was based on
new evidence post-conviction
665
00:35:40,845 --> 00:35:44,261
and not on the grounds of
deprivation of due process
666
00:35:44,345 --> 00:35:46,679
or ineffective assistance
of counsel."
667
00:35:46,762 --> 00:35:50,762
That's wrong and, uh,
it's demonstrably wrong.
668
00:35:50,845 --> 00:35:54,887
Um, what actually happened is
that all nine judges agreed
669
00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:56,679
that Greg Kelley is innocent.
670
00:35:56,762 --> 00:36:00,261
They agreed that he proved by
clear and convincing evidence
671
00:36:00,345 --> 00:36:03,512
that no reasonable jury
would ever convict him
672
00:36:03,595 --> 00:36:06,679
based on all of the evidence,
including the new evidence.
673
00:36:06,762 --> 00:36:09,261
Five judges, at least
five judges--
674
00:36:09,345 --> 00:36:11,720
and five is a majority
at that court;
675
00:36:11,804 --> 00:36:15,095
nine judges, five is a win--
676
00:36:15,178 --> 00:36:17,095
five judges said--
677
00:36:17,178 --> 00:36:21,053
agreed and upheld
Judge Donna King's findings,
678
00:36:21,136 --> 00:36:24,178
upheld them,
did not disturb them.
679
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,929
I want to read a couple of them.
680
00:36:27,595 --> 00:36:31,220
Detective Dailey's decision
to obtain an arrest warrant
681
00:36:31,303 --> 00:36:33,470
commencing process of
prosecution without further
682
00:36:33,553 --> 00:36:36,303
investigation deprived
applicant of due process.
683
00:36:36,387 --> 00:36:39,136
His action was reckless
and uninformed.
684
00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:43,970
He's not credible, and what
he did was made in bad faith.
685
00:36:44,053 --> 00:36:45,345
[Mayor] All right, thank you.
686
00:36:45,428 --> 00:36:46,845
Yes, sir.
687
00:36:48,887 --> 00:36:52,387
Bad faith on the part of police
688
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:57,887
involves corrupt behavior--
689
00:36:57,970 --> 00:36:59,595
concocting charges,
690
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:00,970
framing people,
691
00:37:01,053 --> 00:37:02,970
con-concealing things,
692
00:37:03,053 --> 00:37:05,261
fabricating evidence,
693
00:37:05,345 --> 00:37:08,929
basically working
not for the truth,
694
00:37:09,011 --> 00:37:13,387
but to ensnare somebody
to get them convicted.
695
00:37:13,804 --> 00:37:15,261
And that's what they did.
696
00:37:18,970 --> 00:37:19,762
[Mayor] Um, does someone
want to--
697
00:37:19,845 --> 00:37:21,178
[Rosa] Mr. Mayor--
698
00:37:21,261 --> 00:37:22,261
I'm sorry.
699
00:37:24,095 --> 00:37:25,679
I don't--
- You have to--
700
00:37:25,762 --> 00:37:28,387
you have to fill out a--
register to talk.
701
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:29,387
[man] For real?
702
00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:30,345
Can you-- can you please
be decent?
703
00:37:30,428 --> 00:37:31,637
Can you-- can you
give me that, please?
704
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:34,011
- She can come up here.
- Can you give me that, please?
705
00:37:34,095 --> 00:37:35,011
[Mayor] You can go do it.
706
00:37:35,095 --> 00:37:36,303
Can you please, Mom?
Go.
707
00:37:36,387 --> 00:37:38,136
[Mayor] We just-- it means--
we have to do that.
708
00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:39,845
[woman] I'd be more
than happy to wait.
709
00:37:45,428 --> 00:37:47,303
[Mayor] We'll take the
time to register.
710
00:39:45,053 --> 00:39:53,261
[applause]
711
00:39:56,053 --> 00:39:58,178
Cedar Park Police Department
712
00:39:58,261 --> 00:40:03,804
should be held fully
accountable for their behavior,
713
00:40:03,887 --> 00:40:09,679
not just in their bad-faith
pursuit of Greg Kelley
714
00:40:09,762 --> 00:40:13,553
but also for
715
00:40:13,637 --> 00:40:18,220
letting the guilty party
go free
716
00:40:18,303 --> 00:40:23,095
to commit additional crimes
and ruin other people's lives.
717
00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:29,178
I hope Greg can look to
a bright future
718
00:40:29,261 --> 00:40:31,553
and get on with his life.
719
00:40:31,637 --> 00:40:34,512
I'm delighted that he's
about to get married.
720
00:40:34,595 --> 00:40:37,428
He's not the teenager
that started.
721
00:40:37,512 --> 00:40:39,345
He's a young man now.
722
00:40:39,428 --> 00:40:42,512
He had some years
taken from him that,
723
00:40:42,595 --> 00:40:45,220
as an athlete,
were very valuable.
724
00:40:45,303 --> 00:40:46,845
And he can't get those back.
725
00:40:46,929 --> 00:40:49,136
But he's free.
726
00:40:49,637 --> 00:40:53,929
Uh, he-- he's won a unanimous
declaration of his innocence.
727
00:40:54,011 --> 00:40:55,345
He's proved it.
728
00:40:55,428 --> 00:40:57,553
And we're--
729
00:40:57,637 --> 00:41:02,220
the society is about to be
able to give back
730
00:41:02,303 --> 00:41:06,178
what it can in a form
of compensation,
731
00:41:06,261 --> 00:41:08,053
which is the most
that we can do,
732
00:41:08,136 --> 00:41:09,637
along with an apology.
733
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:17,220
[dramatic music]
734
00:41:17,303 --> 00:41:18,512
[Clerk] All rise, please.
735
00:41:18,595 --> 00:41:20,762
The 26th District Court of
Williamson County, Texas is
736
00:41:20,845 --> 00:41:23,345
now in session, the Honorable
Donna King presiding.
737
00:41:23,428 --> 00:41:25,303
[Judge King] Good morning,
be seated.
738
00:41:25,387 --> 00:41:29,929
I now call to be heard
Cause Number 131367K26,
739
00:41:30,011 --> 00:41:33,512
the State of Texas versus
Gregory Raymond Kelley.
740
00:41:33,595 --> 00:41:35,512
Mr. Kelley, would you
please approach the bench?
741
00:41:44,178 --> 00:41:47,095
Five and a half years ago,
742
00:41:47,178 --> 00:41:50,595
at 18 years old, you stood
in this courtroom
743
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:52,428
and pleaded not guilty
to the charge of
744
00:41:52,512 --> 00:41:55,679
super aggravated sexual
assault of a child.
745
00:41:55,762 --> 00:41:57,970
You maintained your innocence
746
00:41:58,053 --> 00:42:00,095
and exercised your
constitutional right
747
00:42:00,178 --> 00:42:02,220
to a jury trial.
748
00:42:02,303 --> 00:42:04,011
Believing in the process,
749
00:42:04,095 --> 00:42:07,011
you trusted that the
right outcome would result
750
00:42:07,095 --> 00:42:09,178
and that justice would prevail.
751
00:42:09,637 --> 00:42:12,261
Your case was polarizing
752
00:42:12,345 --> 00:42:15,637
and drew the attention of many
in our community.
753
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:17,387
Then came the jury's verdict.
754
00:42:17,470 --> 00:42:18,637
[jury foreman] We the jury
find the defendant
755
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,428
Gregory Kelley guilty
of the offense of
756
00:42:22,512 --> 00:42:24,637
super aggravated
sexual assault.
757
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,553
[Judge King] And on that
day in July of 2014,
758
00:42:27,637 --> 00:42:30,595
when you were sentenced
to 25 years in prison,
759
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:33,303
many participants and
onlookers concluded
760
00:42:33,387 --> 00:42:36,136
that justice was served.
761
00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:38,553
We now know differently.
762
00:42:39,053 --> 00:42:43,011
Mr. Kelley, when you received
the jury's verdict at your trial
763
00:42:43,095 --> 00:42:45,053
you stood,
764
00:42:45,136 --> 00:42:48,011
I believe at that table
right over there,
765
00:42:48,095 --> 00:42:51,595
without the benefit or
comfort of your family.
766
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:54,637
So at this time I'd like
to invite your mom
767
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:57,679
and Gaebri to stand by you
768
00:42:57,762 --> 00:43:00,553
as we bring this
season to a close
769
00:43:00,637 --> 00:43:02,053
and start anew.
770
00:43:05,428 --> 00:43:06,720
The Court of Criminal Appeals
771
00:43:06,804 --> 00:43:09,428
has granted habeas corpus
relief.
772
00:43:09,512 --> 00:43:12,845
I can now say what you
deserve to hear
773
00:43:12,929 --> 00:43:16,553
publicly and on behalf of the
citizens of Williamson County
774
00:43:16,637 --> 00:43:18,720
and of the State of Texas:
775
00:43:18,804 --> 00:43:22,220
Mr. Kelley, with the
full weight of the law
776
00:43:22,303 --> 00:43:24,261
and provision for justice,
777
00:43:24,345 --> 00:43:27,637
as much as humanity can provide,
778
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,595
you have carried your
burden under the law.
779
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:33,387
Proving your innocence,
780
00:43:33,470 --> 00:43:35,637
you now have the right
to proc-proclaim
781
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:40,595
to the citizens of Texas
that you are innocent.
782
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:45,553
And with nine other
judges in agreement,
783
00:43:45,637 --> 00:43:50,387
I declare you innocent and that
you are fully exonerated.
784
00:43:50,470 --> 00:44:02,428
[applause and cheering]
785
00:44:02,512 --> 00:44:04,220
And therefore, at this time,
786
00:44:04,303 --> 00:44:07,595
the State's motion to dismiss
the indictment is granted.
787
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:09,887
What was is no longer.
788
00:44:09,970 --> 00:44:11,095
[gavel pounds]
789
00:44:11,178 --> 00:44:16,261
[applause]
790
00:44:17,261 --> 00:44:19,512
[Greg] This is the day we've
been fighting for
791
00:44:19,595 --> 00:44:22,136
for a long time now.
792
00:44:22,220 --> 00:44:24,595
The heartache, worry and
long suffering
793
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:27,303
have taken an
indescribable toll on me,
794
00:44:27,387 --> 00:44:29,637
my fiancée and
our families.
795
00:44:30,011 --> 00:44:33,804
Truth and nothing but the
truth was the goal here.
796
00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:37,345
Ultimately, truth would be the
catalyst that would supply
797
00:44:37,428 --> 00:44:40,303
justice for all parties
that were wronged.
798
00:44:41,011 --> 00:44:42,637
The Cedar Park Police
Department deprived
799
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:46,428
not only me but the victim here.
800
00:44:46,512 --> 00:44:48,804
To the victim and his family,
801
00:44:48,887 --> 00:44:52,136
I am absolutely sorry you
have to go through this.
802
00:44:53,387 --> 00:44:55,804
Believe me, your
opinion matters.
803
00:44:56,553 --> 00:45:00,095
For six years, I not only had
to fight to prove to the State
804
00:45:00,178 --> 00:45:01,970
I didn't do this,
805
00:45:02,053 --> 00:45:05,845
but I also had to fight to prove
to you that I didn't do this.
806
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:10,345
The justice system
failed me and you.
807
00:45:10,929 --> 00:45:15,303
Today I receive justice
while you remain failed.
808
00:45:15,387 --> 00:45:18,303
If anything is going to drive
me to seek accountability
809
00:45:18,387 --> 00:45:21,470
of certain individuals,
it's going to be because
810
00:45:21,553 --> 00:45:25,512
all victims deserve justice
the first time around.
811
00:45:25,595 --> 00:45:27,261
I pray you have peace.
812
00:45:28,845 --> 00:45:31,178
To my family,
813
00:45:31,261 --> 00:45:32,178
my brothers,
814
00:45:32,261 --> 00:45:33,553
my sister,
815
00:45:33,637 --> 00:45:36,720
thank you so much for
being by my side.
816
00:45:37,345 --> 00:45:40,261
You're the best family that
anybody could ever ask for.
817
00:45:41,470 --> 00:45:45,929
The fear of me being torn
away from them again is over.
818
00:45:46,011 --> 00:45:48,136
And I can't wait to spend
the rest of my life
819
00:45:48,220 --> 00:45:50,679
creating wonderful memories
with the people I hold
820
00:45:50,762 --> 00:45:52,220
near and dear to my heart.
821
00:45:52,303 --> 00:45:59,220
[uplifting music]
822
00:45:59,303 --> 00:46:06,553
♪♪♪
823
00:46:06,637 --> 00:46:09,053
Thank you, Jake Brydon.
824
00:46:09,136 --> 00:46:13,929
You had no idea who I was
days after my conviction.
825
00:46:14,011 --> 00:46:16,970
You called my broken mother
826
00:46:17,053 --> 00:46:19,178
and promised her you would
do everything you could
827
00:46:19,261 --> 00:46:20,595
to fight for me.
828
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:23,387
I often wondered if
you were an angel
829
00:46:23,470 --> 00:46:26,387
until I heard your mouth
open to save my life.
830
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:30,470
[laughter]
831
00:46:30,553 --> 00:46:32,387
You are the mouth of the South.
832
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:33,887
I'm forever grateful.
833
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:40,220
Thank you, Keith Hampton,
834
00:46:40,303 --> 00:46:42,762
for believing in me when
I was the most broken.
835
00:46:43,637 --> 00:46:46,512
Thank you for taking this on
when you had absolutely
836
00:46:46,595 --> 00:46:49,637
no idea what you were
getting yourself into.
837
00:46:51,178 --> 00:46:54,595
If Marvel Comics ever wanted
to create an Attorney Man,
838
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:56,345
[laughter]
839
00:46:56,428 --> 00:46:58,428
I'd say slap some
Spandex on Keith
840
00:46:58,512 --> 00:47:00,095
because he's the
man for the job.
841
00:47:00,178 --> 00:47:02,011
[laughter]
842
00:47:05,053 --> 00:47:08,553
To my soon-to-be bride,
843
00:47:08,637 --> 00:47:10,595
I can only imagine the
strength it took
844
00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:12,512
to faithfully stick by me.
845
00:47:13,929 --> 00:47:16,679
As teenagers, you
never doubted me.
846
00:47:16,762 --> 00:47:18,762
You carried the burden of
being attached to me
847
00:47:18,845 --> 00:47:21,303
while the world was
calling me a monster.
848
00:47:22,929 --> 00:47:25,595
As we fought to prove my
innocence, you never stopped
849
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:27,762
unconditionally loving me.
850
00:47:30,095 --> 00:47:31,428
You kept me alive.
851
00:47:31,512 --> 00:47:35,387
[crying]
852
00:47:35,470 --> 00:47:37,595
You gave me hope to come home
853
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:38,970
and I love you so much.
854
00:47:39,053 --> 00:47:41,804
I can't wait to spend the
rest of my life with you.
855
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:48,470
[Jake] Well, with the
power vested in me
856
00:47:48,553 --> 00:47:51,303
by the great state of Texas,
857
00:47:51,387 --> 00:47:52,679
God,
858
00:47:52,762 --> 00:47:54,595
and the Court of
Criminal Appeals,
859
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:57,720
[laughter]
860
00:47:57,804 --> 00:47:58,804
I pronounce you man and wife.
861
00:47:58,887 --> 00:48:00,345
Greg, you may kiss your bride.
862
00:48:00,428 --> 00:48:05,637
[applause and cheers]
863
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:07,762
Keith, would you do me
the honor
864
00:48:07,845 --> 00:48:11,095
in announcing this couple
for the very first time?
865
00:48:11,178 --> 00:48:12,887
It's my pleasure
866
00:48:12,970 --> 00:48:15,679
to give to you for the
first time anywhere
867
00:48:15,762 --> 00:48:19,512
Mr. and Mrs. Greg and
Gaebri Kelley.
868
00:48:19,595 --> 00:48:26,095
[applause and cheers]
869
00:48:35,261 --> 00:48:38,845
Well, this was a case where
if everything could go wrong
870
00:48:38,929 --> 00:48:41,887
for somebody, it did:
871
00:48:41,970 --> 00:48:44,512
bad investigation,
872
00:48:44,595 --> 00:48:47,887
defense lawyer with
blinders on,
873
00:48:47,970 --> 00:48:52,095
all of the evidence that was
not produced for that jury.
874
00:48:52,178 --> 00:48:56,762
It's as if there were dark
forces every step of the way.
875
00:48:56,845 --> 00:48:59,553
In this case, I feel like we
lost the truth long ago.
876
00:48:59,637 --> 00:49:03,470
I-I think that at that time
there were a lot of elements
877
00:49:03,553 --> 00:49:07,011
that we could have checked off
if a thorough investigation
878
00:49:07,095 --> 00:49:08,970
was done in the
very beginning.
879
00:49:09,053 --> 00:49:11,720
And a lot of these questions
that we still have to this day
880
00:49:11,804 --> 00:49:13,553
could have been answered.
881
00:49:13,637 --> 00:49:16,053
Now knowing what I know,
882
00:49:16,136 --> 00:49:20,011
I completely believe that
if there had even been
883
00:49:20,095 --> 00:49:24,053
just this much more
investigation,
884
00:49:24,136 --> 00:49:25,720
if they had gone to the house,
885
00:49:25,804 --> 00:49:29,053
if they had talked
to Johnathan,
886
00:49:29,136 --> 00:49:32,887
if just one person had
caught one thing,
887
00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:35,428
I would not be sitting here
888
00:49:35,512 --> 00:49:37,095
and this would not
have happened to me.
889
00:49:37,178 --> 00:49:40,845
And it would not have happened
to countless other girls.
890
00:49:42,345 --> 00:49:44,512
You know, if really it was just
a bad police investigation
891
00:49:44,595 --> 00:49:46,470
but everyone else did
their job along the way,
892
00:49:46,553 --> 00:49:48,220
maybe this never happens at all.
893
00:49:48,303 --> 00:49:50,595
But you still had prosecutors
that allowed that to happen.
894
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:52,095
You still had prosecutors
that chose to take
895
00:49:52,178 --> 00:49:54,512
those cases to trial.
896
00:49:54,595 --> 00:49:56,887
These cases are-are very tough.
897
00:49:56,970 --> 00:49:59,762
You know, to-to try a case
with two four-year-old victims
898
00:49:59,845 --> 00:50:00,887
is-is difficult.
899
00:50:00,970 --> 00:50:05,387
Um, but I think this case
is proof that-that
900
00:50:05,470 --> 00:50:06,887
they can be won.
901
00:50:06,970 --> 00:50:08,720
The prosecutor,
Geoffrey Puryear,
902
00:50:08,804 --> 00:50:11,470
he green-lighted a second--
903
00:50:11,553 --> 00:50:16,178
a second accusation
that-that was fabricated.
904
00:50:16,553 --> 00:50:21,595
It was created just
to support his case.
905
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:23,887
Two, he moved the date.
906
00:50:23,970 --> 00:50:27,136
Uh, he had to-- he-he had
to have called that shot.
907
00:50:27,220 --> 00:50:29,804
So in that sense,
they framed him.
908
00:50:29,887 --> 00:50:33,053
And then you add
SpongeBob pajamas.
909
00:50:33,136 --> 00:50:37,679
The kid tells you
SpongeBob pajamas.
910
00:50:38,428 --> 00:50:42,804
Geoffrey Puryear recognized
that that piece of evidence
911
00:50:42,887 --> 00:50:46,178
was exculpatory and that he
had a constitutional duty to
912
00:50:46,261 --> 00:50:48,804
disclose it to the defense.
913
00:50:48,887 --> 00:50:52,887
And he did it at the
last possible moment
914
00:50:52,970 --> 00:50:55,970
and then disclosed it
to the defense lawyer
915
00:50:56,053 --> 00:50:58,178
who didn't know
what to do with it.
916
00:50:58,261 --> 00:51:00,720
And that's a real shame
because wh-- of everything
917
00:51:00,804 --> 00:51:03,220
we know about those
pajamas now.
918
00:51:21,804 --> 00:51:25,804
I remember Johnathan
walking into my house
919
00:51:25,887 --> 00:51:29,637
wearing SpongeBob
SquarePants pajama pants.
920
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:32,887
And my sister
remembers it too.
921
00:51:33,470 --> 00:51:36,720
Geoffrey Puryear shouldn't
have been promoted
922
00:51:36,804 --> 00:51:40,220
after his actions in this case.
923
00:51:40,303 --> 00:51:44,387
The day after Greg
was exonerated,
924
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:50,720
Governor Abbott appointed
Geoffrey Puryear as a judge.
925
00:51:51,637 --> 00:51:56,679
So he will be taking the
oath of office as a judge.
926
00:51:56,762 --> 00:52:03,011
[dramatic music]
927
00:52:03,095 --> 00:52:06,762
You know, the timing was
obviously, um,
928
00:52:06,845 --> 00:52:09,762
probably not ideal for
everyone involved in that.
929
00:52:09,845 --> 00:52:13,345
And I do know that some of the
people involved in this case
930
00:52:13,428 --> 00:52:16,887
were disappointed that, um,
you know, others were being
931
00:52:16,970 --> 00:52:19,553
held to account for their
actions in this case
932
00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:22,178
but the prosecutor seemed
to be rewarded.
933
00:52:24,762 --> 00:52:26,261
Uh, what we do here
is very important.
934
00:52:26,345 --> 00:52:29,053
It affects people's
lives tremendously.
935
00:52:29,136 --> 00:52:31,637
But, you know, we-we're right
back to where we were,
936
00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:36,345
where we have a child that
said someone violated him
937
00:52:36,428 --> 00:52:38,762
and we don't have any
answers for the family.
938
00:52:39,303 --> 00:52:41,220
I know they still firmly
believe that Greg Kelley
939
00:52:41,303 --> 00:52:43,345
is the person that did this.
940
00:52:43,428 --> 00:52:46,762
They have obviously spoken
to their own child
941
00:52:46,845 --> 00:52:49,845
and it's their belief that
he's never changed
942
00:52:49,929 --> 00:52:51,637
who did this to him.
943
00:52:53,804 --> 00:52:56,261
This happened in
Cedar Park, Texas.
944
00:52:56,804 --> 00:53:00,261
This isn't like some
hypothetical of:
945
00:53:00,345 --> 00:53:02,470
what if the wrong person
does the wrong thing
946
00:53:02,553 --> 00:53:07,428
and all these people miss it
and something bad happens?
947
00:53:07,512 --> 00:53:12,178
This is: this actually
happened and it happened here.
948
00:53:12,261 --> 00:53:14,553
We know when it happened
949
00:53:14,637 --> 00:53:17,970
and we have a list of all the
people that were hurt by it.
950
00:53:18,053 --> 00:53:21,095
But Greg's not the
only victim here
951
00:53:21,178 --> 00:53:23,303
and I'm not the
only victim here.
952
00:53:23,387 --> 00:53:26,387
And those kids aren't
the only victim here.
953
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:28,595
There are more people than I
can count on my hands
954
00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:33,053
that are victims here because
the wrong person was put away.
955
00:53:34,845 --> 00:53:37,720
Anyone could have
been Greg or me.
956
00:53:39,220 --> 00:53:41,970
It could happen anywhere.
957
00:53:42,053 --> 00:53:46,136
And we're very fortunate to be
in a place that we caught it,
958
00:53:46,220 --> 00:53:50,929
because it took a lot
of people fighting
959
00:53:51,011 --> 00:53:53,178
all the time
960
00:53:53,261 --> 00:53:54,845
to try and catch it
961
00:53:54,929 --> 00:53:56,845
and figure out what happened.
962
00:53:57,261 --> 00:54:02,178
Honestly, I believe that there
are more innocent people
963
00:54:02,261 --> 00:54:07,261
in prison due to false
accusations
964
00:54:07,345 --> 00:54:11,845
because there are no
requirements
965
00:54:11,929 --> 00:54:16,136
that the outcries or the
accusations be reliable.
966
00:54:16,220 --> 00:54:19,303
And if it's not properly
investigated,
967
00:54:19,387 --> 00:54:23,345
if the detectives are not asking
that question did a crime occur,
968
00:54:23,428 --> 00:54:26,929
if they're not trying to
make their case, uh,
969
00:54:27,011 --> 00:54:30,220
more reliable looking for
corroborating evidence,
970
00:54:30,303 --> 00:54:33,220
digging deeper to see
if it happened,
971
00:54:33,303 --> 00:54:37,136
then you'll have more
Greg Kelleys.
972
00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:49,679
[dramatic music]
973
00:54:49,762 --> 00:54:59,679
♪♪♪
974
00:54:59,762 --> 00:55:09,720
♪♪♪
975
00:55:09,804 --> 00:55:19,720
♪♪♪
976
00:55:19,804 --> 00:55:29,720
♪♪♪
977
00:55:29,804 --> 00:55:39,720
♪♪♪
978
00:55:39,804 --> 00:55:49,762
♪♪♪
979
00:55:49,845 --> 00:55:59,762
♪♪♪
980
00:55:59,845 --> 00:56:09,762
♪♪♪
981
00:56:09,845 --> 00:56:19,762
♪♪♪
982
00:56:19,845 --> 00:56:29,762
♪♪♪
983
00:56:29,845 --> 00:56:40,261
♪♪♪
984
00:56:42,053 --> 00:56:43,345
[Greg] I was watching--
985
00:56:43,428 --> 00:56:45,136
the other day I was watching
a movie going to sleep.
986
00:56:45,220 --> 00:56:48,679
And, uh, I was watching
"The Truman Show".
987
00:56:48,762 --> 00:56:52,095
And you know how in "The Truman
Show" this-this-this guy,
988
00:56:52,178 --> 00:56:54,345
every movement that he does
it's been a reality show
989
00:56:54,428 --> 00:56:58,679
for other people's
entertainment, right.
990
00:56:58,762 --> 00:57:02,303
And th-- and really Truman was
never really actually free.
991
00:57:02,387 --> 00:57:05,095
He never got to, you know--
he was restricted
992
00:57:05,178 --> 00:57:08,345
within that dome
that he was in.
993
00:57:08,428 --> 00:57:12,053
And, um, I was like,
man, that's--
994
00:57:12,136 --> 00:57:14,553
it's a little bit of what I'm
going through pretty much.
995
00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:18,929
You know, I've never actually
thought in my life
996
00:57:19,011 --> 00:57:22,178
that every movement that
I would be doing
997
00:57:22,261 --> 00:57:24,470
would be a camera right there,
you know.
998
00:57:24,553 --> 00:57:26,970
And it started when I
was 19 years old.
999
00:57:27,053 --> 00:57:29,178
I've had a camera in
my face, you know.
1000
00:57:29,261 --> 00:57:32,178
And every movement
that I've done,
1001
00:57:32,261 --> 00:57:33,303
everything that I've done,
1002
00:57:33,387 --> 00:57:37,053
I've had to take caution
on what I do, you know.
1003
00:57:37,136 --> 00:57:38,387
I wasn't ever fully free.
1004
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:40,345
I felt like there was
a weight over my head.
1005
00:57:40,428 --> 00:57:42,887
Somebody was watching me.
1006
00:57:42,970 --> 00:57:46,428
My life was under a
microscope, you know.
1007
00:57:46,512 --> 00:57:50,178
I had to share things
about my personal life
1008
00:57:50,261 --> 00:57:53,553
that should stay with me,
you know.
1009
00:57:53,637 --> 00:57:58,053
My life was an open
book to everybody.
1010
00:57:58,136 --> 00:57:59,929
And at that moment,
I felt like
1011
00:58:00,011 --> 00:58:01,595
I didn't know what
freedom was, you know.
1012
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:04,470
I felt like I was
just an experiment.
1013
00:58:04,553 --> 00:58:08,720
And just at the end of the--
end of the movie, you know,
1014
00:58:08,804 --> 00:58:10,512
the guy in the movie-- if
you guys watch it, he said,
1015
00:58:10,595 --> 00:58:13,679
"Truman, say something."
Right?
1016
00:58:13,762 --> 00:58:16,095
And I don't know what he--
1017
00:58:16,178 --> 00:58:17,261
I don't know if you know
what he did,
1018
00:58:17,345 --> 00:58:19,303
but he turned around and
he looked at the camera,
1019
00:58:19,387 --> 00:58:21,136
and he said his catchphrase.
1020
00:58:21,220 --> 00:58:24,095
He said, "In case I
didn't see you,
1021
00:58:24,178 --> 00:58:25,345
good afternoon and good night."
1022
00:58:25,428 --> 00:58:26,261
Right?
1023
00:58:26,345 --> 00:58:27,345
And he walked off.
1024
00:58:27,428 --> 00:58:28,720
You know?
1025
00:58:28,804 --> 00:58:32,720
And, um, man, he could have
cussed everybody smooth out,
1026
00:58:32,804 --> 00:58:33,762
right.
1027
00:58:33,845 --> 00:58:36,387
He could have cussed
the whole world out.
1028
00:58:36,970 --> 00:58:38,512
And he didn't.
1029
00:58:39,053 --> 00:58:41,470
He smiled and turned
and walked away
1030
00:58:41,553 --> 00:58:43,220
and went out into the world.
1031
00:58:44,637 --> 00:58:47,053
I was like, man,
1032
00:58:47,136 --> 00:58:49,011
I want that so much.
1033
00:58:52,845 --> 00:59:02,804
[dramatic music]
1034
00:59:02,887 --> 00:59:12,804
♪♪♪
1035
00:59:12,887 --> 00:59:22,845
♪♪♪
1036
00:59:22,929 --> 00:59:23,762
♪♪♪
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