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Successful prosecution.
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[Keith Hampton] There's been
an outcry in Leander, Texas.
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Everyone is saying, "You've
got the wrong guy."
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[Shawn Dick] In walks a
district court judge.
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[Judge Mathews] I advised him
not to file charges
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at that point.
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He said, "Well, it'll
strengthen the case
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against the first child."
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Yes, I don't know why that--
why that would be unfair
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to call it corruption.
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[male reporter] Now the focus
is on an attorney
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who defended him back in 2014.
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[Keith] The tables
suddenly turn,
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where his prior lawyer
becomes his worst enemy.
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Back at the time in 2013,
there's a facial similarity
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between Johnathan
and Greg Kelley.
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[Patricia] Was I aware that
there was a resemblance?
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Is that the question?
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Sure, I was, yes.
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They looked like twins to me.
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For whatever reason,
she's convinced that
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Johnathan McCarty's not
someone that we should
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even be looking at.
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[Cody Mitchell] I am a Texas
Ranger employed by the
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Texas Department of
Public Safety.
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Different entities did things
that shouldn't have been done
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and hit this-this defendant.
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The only person
that has met the
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probable cause bar
is Greg Kelley.
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[female reporter] Now we are
learning new information
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from the Texas Ranger's
investigation that
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keeps him as an active suspect.
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Yeah, I've passed every
question but one.
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Mr. Kelley has lied about
several things.
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[Shawn] I think initially
I was pretty convinced
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of his innocence.
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Now I hate to say this
but I-I just--
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I wouldn't be surprised
either way.
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[dramatic music]
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[jury foreman] We the jury
find the defendant
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Gregory Kelley guilty
of the offense of
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super aggravated
sexual assault.
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Mm-hmm.
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[sharp exhale] He turned red
and...
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[dramatic music]
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as a juror, after that,
that's something
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you want to block out.
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How it went from
11 to 1 to 12 to 0?
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Everybody was tired.
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I wanted to go home.
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And they were pissed.
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And they knew I
was the one vote.
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And...
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I should have
kept to my guns.
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But...
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yeah, I told them--
I said,
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"You want your conviction?"
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I said, "Here's
your conviction.
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But this is on you all."
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[crying]
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Yes, I do.
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I would say yes,
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unless somebody can change
my opinion on that.
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I don't-- I don't see it.
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Yes, the jury got this wrong.
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What if he gets
sent back to prison?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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[female reporter] Breaking
news: former high-school
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football star Greg Kelley
out on bond.
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It's the first time he's
seen freedom in three years.
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[male reporter] The
22-year-old was convicted
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of child sexual assault.
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Today the judge signed an
order granting Kelley bond.
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[male reporter] Tonight
he's being taken
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to an undisclosed location,
far away I'm told,
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outside of any public view.
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[Greg] I'm still dreaming.
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I'm still dreaming right now.
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I kind of slept in
a little bit.
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It feels great to be able
to get up and-
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and, uh, make myself
a cup of coffee
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and walk around a-a nice area.
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And it's like, I'm not in
the nightmare any more.
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I do believe, uh, people need
to be held accountable
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for their actions.
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And I do believe that wrongs
need to be made right.
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And we're going to do that
in any way we can.
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I-I think I was just sad
when he got out.
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I felt for the families who
were reliving this,
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um, for the parents of
these little boys
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who were now having to
watch the news again
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with his face
plastered everywhere.
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It seemed like all these
wounds were getting reopened.
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So I kind of put myself in
their shoes as their family,
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and for me it just seemed
really hard when he got out.
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[David Anderson] Great
opportunity tonight.
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[Greg Kelley] Yeah.
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[David] Do you want to go
over some of that stuff
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and just try it and see--?
- Yeah.
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[Greg] [clears throat]
All right.
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Hello, thank you for
having me here.
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My name is Gregory Kelley.
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I'm here for two things,
accountability and truth--
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accountability because the
people that did this to me
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need to be held responsible,
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and truth because if the truth
is never discovered,
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then the victim cannot
receive justice.
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[dramatic music]
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Since being incarcerated,
I have studied due process
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and the importance
that it plays
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in our criminal justice system.
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[dramatic music]
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Our justice system demands
an accurate outcome.
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And whenever that
is not achieved,
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we as citizens have an
obligation to correct it.
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When I watched Sgt. Dailey
sit on that stand
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and defend incompetence,
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I realized that my purpose
isn't just to inspire people
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that have been treated unfairly
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but to be the catalyst for
real change in this community.
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While I was incarcerated
I received an outpouring
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of love from this community,
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and it grieved my spirit
that the police chief,
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Sean Mannix, tried to
label them as a cult
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just like how he tried to
label me as a pedophile.
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I believe this is
a toxic culture
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that excuses laziness and
defends incompetence.
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But when Chief Mannix called
this the best police work
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he had ever seen,
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it became clear that
change is required
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because an organization can
only be good as its leader.
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This was about winning
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and achieving a
successful prosecution
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at all costs
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and had very little to do
with justice and truth.
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I will extend you the
benefit of the doubt
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that I was denied by the
police department,
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but I expect immediate
action please.
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Thank you very much;
God bless you all.
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[male] Thank you, Mr. Kelley.
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Thank you.
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[female reporter] Cedar Park
Police facing a review
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after criticism into how
officers there handled
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the investigation that
ultimately convicted Kelley
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of child sexual assault.
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Officials say the review will
start as soon as possible,
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but it's unclear when the
findings will be released.
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Critics have said police did
not fully investigate the case,
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including whether
someone else may have
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committed the crime.
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To get, uh, Chief Mannix
and, uh,
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Chris Dailey out of there.
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[Sean] Well, you know, I don't
wake up in the morning
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wondering, uh, who-who wants
me in or out of my job.
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And, uh, so, you know,
all those, uh,
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people shaking their fist
and, you know,
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torches and pitchforks aren't
something that I find
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intimidating or scary
or anything else.
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It's part of my job, is, you
know, some people are going
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to criticize you and some
people are going to praise you.
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And some people
just don't care.
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Uh, we're going to
play that by ear.
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We don't know what's
to come in the future.
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Uh, we're playing it
day by day right now.
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I've got a few dreams.
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I've got a few hopes.
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But, uh, that will come later.
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You know, I'm just going
to enjoy freedom,
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be with my family,
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start preparing for my future,
you know.
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I'll start preparing now.
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[Gaebri] I've stuck by Greg
for the last four years,
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ever since the beginning,
because I knew he was innocent.
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He's been my best friend since
eighth grade and, uh,
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I'm completely in love
with him.
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Even my friends,
they'd be like,
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"Are you going to wait
25 years?"
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and my answer was always, "Yes."
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And they just thought
that was insane.
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Yeah, it was him that
actually said,
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"You don't have to
stay with me.
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You don't have to stay
with someone that's
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falsely accused in jail
for 25 years."
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You know, that broke my heart
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that he could even think that
I would break up with him.
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No, I'm in this with you
until the very end.
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I-I mean I felt more
in love with him
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whenever he was in prison.
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Any phone call we had,
any visit we had,
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always reminded me why
I'm so in love with him.
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And nothing can
really shake that.
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It challenged us.
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I think any relationship that
can overcome that obstacle
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is going to be a very strong,
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very, very strong relationship.
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[female reporter] Breaking
news in the Greg Kelley case
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this afternoon, a judge
in Williamson County has
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just ruled that he should
be declared innocent
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in a child sexual assault
that led to his conviction
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and 25-year prison sentence.
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[male reporter] Now, the
ruling by State District Judge
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Donna King says, "The Court
finds that the culmination of
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evidence supports Applicant's
claim of actual innocence.
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He has met the burden and
established he is actually
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innocent of the offense for
which he was convicted."
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[dramatic music]
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In her ruling, Judge King
said that his attorney
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in his first trial
was ineffective.
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She also granted a Due Process
claim saying that
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Kelley's rights were violated
because of a botched
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Cedar Park Police
investigation.
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She found that Greg Kelley
was denied due process
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because of the bad faith and
negligent police investigation
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that was conducted.
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You know, the judge
did find bad faith
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on the part of the Cedar
Park Police Department.
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The judge did find that
their investigation was-was
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reckless, reached sort
of a reckless standard.
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This nonsense about this, uh,
due process, uh, issue,
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uh, is--
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it's a standard in law
that doesn't exist.
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The way the system works
is the police develop
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probable cause that a crime
was committed.
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They then go to the
District Attorney's Office
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and the District Attorney
makes a charging decision.
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The District Attorney's Office
brings it to a grand jury.
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The grand jury hands
down the indictment.
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It then goes to trial, and
a jury of 12 different people
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get to hear all elements
of the case,
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including any criticism of the
police report,
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and make their determination
on guilt or innocence.
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And all of those things
happened in this case.
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To look at that ruling today,
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you would think that this went
to the probable cause part
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and conviction,
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that none of those
other steps, you know,
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took place, which is
just baloney.
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If the due process
issue were to hold,
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it would be a horrific
piece of case law
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from the standpoint of basically
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what it would be saying
is that police officers
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now have to go beyond
probable cause
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and rule out any possible,
you know, person, uh,
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for every, you know,
single crime.
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And that's just untenable.
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It's not something
that's-that's realistic.
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Judge King's rulings
will now go to the
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Texas Court of
Criminal Appeals.
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That is the State's
highest criminal court.
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Those nine judges will likely
take months to rule,
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so we now know that this
whole saga will likely be
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well into next year before we
see any kind of final outcome.
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I-it won't be over until the
Court of Criminal Appeals
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issues its decision,
which could literally take
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anywhere from a few months
to another year.
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The Court of Criminal Appeals
every Wednesday
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hands down decisions, and we
call them hand-downs.
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It's not a
defendant-friendly court.
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I don't know if there--
such a court actually exists,
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but it's not the Court
of Criminal Appeals.
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The general population
of Texas--
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I-I don't think they know
the court at all.
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I-I don't-- I think most people
don't even know it exists.
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I think everybody that's on
the Court of Criminal Appeals
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is a former prosecutor.
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And many of them,
that's all they've ever done.
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All they did is spend a
career looking for ways
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to uphold the conviction.
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Then they go from that to the
Court of Criminal Appeals
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and, no surprise, they're
looking for ways
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to uphold the conviction.
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That is their world view.
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[Keith] The Court of Criminal
Appeals has complete
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control over it and can-can
issue a decision whenever.
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They ultimately can remand it
for something else th--
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in other words, send it
back here for some hearing
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on some other issue.
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So they could do that.
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So something like an ineffective
assistance of counsel
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newly discovered evidence--
all that--
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all that the Court of Criminal
Appeals would ultimately
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be deciding is you
get to start over.
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You go back to court and
we're going to start all over.
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An actual innocence claim
is a little bit different.
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An actual innocence claim,
the Court of Appeals is
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certifying that you are
actually innocent,
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and the case ends there.
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And so--
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Uh, that's very rare,
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very rare.
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Or, a horrible thing would be
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a one-page order:
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relief denied
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on all grounds.
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Which means he has to
go back into prison.
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For a defendant to be found
actually innocent,
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he has to prove by clear
and convincing evidence
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that-that he did not
commit that offense.
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And that is a pretty high
standard of proof,
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given that, at trial, the
State had had to prove
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beyond a reasonable doubt
that he was guilty.
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The CCA is the ultimate
finder of fact.
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That's what it will tell you.
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It is the ultimate
finder of fact.
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Even when the State, the
defendant and the trial judge
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all agree about a particular
resolution on habeas,
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the Court of Criminal Appeals
can ignore that and, um,
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go the other way.
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There are some terrible cases
that do exist out there
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where people were released
on bond and then they lost
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before the Court of
Criminal Appeals.
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And they had to walk those
people back into prison.
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And that is a scenario I do not
even like to contemplate.
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But until the court
grants him relief,
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exonerates him,
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that is a scenario.
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It exists.
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We dealt with claims of
actual innocence often enough,
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but I think we only granted
actual innocence claims--
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my head is telling me
three times.
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I would say under five times.
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It was a very, very
rare occurrence.
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Seven and a half.
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I think if they find
him innocent,
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I don't think it will
change my mind, no.
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From the very beginning,
I've just stood--
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stayed with the kids.
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I believe those kids.
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I really don't think
that they made it up.
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I really don't think
that they were confused.
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I don't think
they were coached.
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I think this was a-a very
traumatic, pivotal moment in
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their lives where their
innocence was stripped
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and that they went and
told their parents.
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And I think the nightmare that
happened after that was all
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just unfortunate, about how
the case was handled
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and how it's gone forward.
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But I think I will
always stand with them
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and that they were
telling the truth.
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It's three minutes to nine
and it's a Wednesday
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and every Wednesday the
Court of Criminal Appeals
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hands down, uh, its
decisions at 9:00.
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And we're waiting to
see if Greg's, uh,
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writ has been decided.
354
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Uh, we've been doing this for
like 20 times already,
355
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almost 20 times.
356
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And-and, uh, I haven't
been on it yet.
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It all comes down to
refreshing a page at 9:00 a.m.
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to see if I'm on it so
I could be fully free.
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[Jake Brydon] I didn't realize
how heavy it was getting on me
360
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until I started checking
that dang Web site
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to see that four years' work
is going to come down to a
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yes or no decision by nine
people that we don't know.
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And we have no idea how-how
into social media they are
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and if our--
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and if our fighting has any
effect on them at all.
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We just don't know if what
we're doing is in vain
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or is this helping Greg?
368
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Uh, God forbid that this
be hurting Greg, you know.
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And-and just so a lot of that
mental anxiety I guess is-is
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what I'd call it, just-- that
has an accumulative effect on
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you when you know somebody's
life hangs in the balance,
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for sure.
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All right, here we go.
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[Greg] Nine o'clock.
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Let's do it.
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And a whole bunch of denials.
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He's not on it.
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Dismissed.
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I don't see it.
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[scoffs]
381
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Nothing.
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Well,
383
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no news is good news...
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I guess.
385
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[Greg] It means another week
of doing the same thing.
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So next Wednesday,
pull up this page,
387
00:20:55,929 --> 00:20:57,595
9:00 comes around...
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we're going to see
if I'm on it.
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00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:06,595
Probably ill-advised before
flying is checking that website.
390
00:21:07,929 --> 00:21:09,303
It ticks you off.
391
00:21:12,637 --> 00:21:15,345
[traffic passing]
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[Greg] As the weeks go by,
knowing what I have going
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in my life right now and kind
of being out for a long time,
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I've been doing things
that I want to--
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I want to pursue in my career.
396
00:21:25,428 --> 00:21:27,595
And I-I simply just want
to regain everything
397
00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:30,929
that was taken from me,
that was stripped from me.
398
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And I can't get to it
because I have this thing
399
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hanging over my head.
400
00:21:35,136 --> 00:21:38,804
It's never been as stressful
than it is right now.
401
00:21:39,637 --> 00:21:42,387
After that you go and you
switch your hand placement
402
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:44,387
and go into curls,
403
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:46,095
to the eyeballs.
404
00:21:47,512 --> 00:21:48,679
Good job, Melissa.
405
00:21:53,095 --> 00:21:54,261
Somebody's calling me.
406
00:21:54,345 --> 00:21:55,095
Keith is.
407
00:21:55,178 --> 00:21:56,053
Keith's calling me right now.
408
00:21:56,136 --> 00:21:57,178
Hello?
409
00:21:58,845 --> 00:21:59,637
Hey, Keith.
410
00:22:02,095 --> 00:22:03,387
What's going on, man?
411
00:22:03,470 --> 00:22:07,512
[Keith] Hey, uh, look,
uh, I just, uh--
412
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Okay.
413
00:22:18,095 --> 00:22:19,470
Wow. Really?
414
00:23:04,512 --> 00:23:08,011
Uh, that's-- uh, that's-that's
ter-- that's terrible, Keith.
415
00:23:09,428 --> 00:23:11,220
All right, have a good day.
416
00:23:11,303 --> 00:23:12,679
All right, bye.
417
00:23:14,261 --> 00:23:15,553
Can you believe that?
418
00:23:18,595 --> 00:23:19,553
Geez.
419
00:23:20,804 --> 00:23:22,720
At first, I-I couldn't
believe it was Johnathan.
420
00:23:22,804 --> 00:23:25,428
And-and now...
421
00:23:26,679 --> 00:23:28,387
A man considered an
alternative suspect
422
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:30,637
in the sexual assault of a
child case that landed
423
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,512
Greg Kelley in prison is
facing new charges tonight,
424
00:23:34,595 --> 00:23:37,553
an alleged sexual assault
of a 15-year-old girl.
425
00:23:37,637 --> 00:23:40,387
Uh, we have filed charges
against Johnathan McCarty
426
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:44,011
for another sexual assault
that came to our attention
427
00:23:44,095 --> 00:23:46,095
through this investigation.
428
00:23:47,428 --> 00:23:49,679
Right after Johnathan's
name became public
429
00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:52,512
and was in the newspaper
and on television,
430
00:23:52,595 --> 00:23:54,220
uh, really within a few days
431
00:23:54,303 --> 00:23:56,720
we started to receive
a number of tips.
432
00:23:57,345 --> 00:24:01,095
Several young ladies came
forward, uh, alleging that,
433
00:24:01,178 --> 00:24:03,637
um, there was some form of-
434
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,428
of sexual assault
that had occurred.
435
00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:08,053
And we filed the one
that occurred here
436
00:24:08,136 --> 00:24:09,637
in Williamson County.
437
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,053
We believe that he's com--
he's committed a crime
438
00:24:12,136 --> 00:24:13,387
and-and we intend to prove it.
439
00:24:13,470 --> 00:24:15,261
Now, in a statement
a short time ago
440
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from McCarty's attorney,
she said McCarty is innocent
441
00:24:18,637 --> 00:24:22,387
of the allegation and that he
also steadfastly maintains
442
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:25,345
he's innocent in the
Greg Kelley case.
443
00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:30,637
The investigation or-- let me
s-- the lack
444
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,470
of investigation of McCarty in
the beginning was bad enough.
445
00:24:34,762 --> 00:24:39,595
But given the three-year time
frame between when Greg Kelley
446
00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:44,637
goes to prison and when this
hearing is held in 2017,
447
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,178
one of the suspects who should
have been investigated
448
00:24:47,261 --> 00:24:49,261
in the first place
is not in prison.
449
00:24:49,345 --> 00:24:50,804
He's not in jail.
450
00:24:50,887 --> 00:24:53,595
He's free the entire time and
able to do whatever he wants.
451
00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:55,679
Not only you put the
wrong person in jail,
452
00:24:55,762 --> 00:24:58,136
but you didn't put the one
that deserved to be there
453
00:24:58,220 --> 00:24:59,720
that might be still doing it.
454
00:24:59,804 --> 00:25:02,679
Uh, Greg's life was-was
hurt for four years.
455
00:25:02,762 --> 00:25:05,095
But that little boy, that's
something he's going to
456
00:25:05,178 --> 00:25:06,470
have to live with the
rest of his life,
457
00:25:06,553 --> 00:25:08,387
and knowing that you
may have put--
458
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:10,261
not only put the wrong person
but you have allowed
459
00:25:10,345 --> 00:25:12,762
this maybe to happen to
somebody else?
460
00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:14,845
Again, those are just
things that I would have
461
00:25:14,929 --> 00:25:16,553
a hard time sleeping with.
462
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[Greg] I never even thought
that I would see the
463
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inside of a prison cell.
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Sixteen years old,
seventeen years old,
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playing football and already
having a scholarship
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00:25:28,553 --> 00:25:32,804
to go play football, and then
something just terrible
467
00:25:32,887 --> 00:25:36,470
happens to your life and your
life just comes crashing down.
468
00:25:36,553 --> 00:25:39,011
I never thought that that
would happen to me.
469
00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:41,845
You get put in that place,
you know, like:
470
00:25:41,929 --> 00:25:45,387
'Did everything I do wrong
ever amount to this?'
471
00:25:48,553 --> 00:25:49,804
Sometimes there's just
answers out there that
472
00:25:49,887 --> 00:25:52,178
we're just not meant to find.
473
00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:56,178
All right?
474
00:25:56,261 --> 00:25:57,178
[Rosa] Yes.
475
00:25:57,261 --> 00:25:58,553
All right.
476
00:25:59,136 --> 00:26:00,345
Let's eat, then.
477
00:26:00,845 --> 00:26:02,804
All right Father God, thank you,
Lord, for this food.
478
00:26:02,887 --> 00:26:05,470
And I just thank you for
keeping my mother strong
479
00:26:05,553 --> 00:26:08,804
and increasing her faith,
lifting her up, Father God.
480
00:26:08,887 --> 00:26:11,095
In your son's name,
Jesus, amen.
481
00:26:11,178 --> 00:26:12,095
[Rosa] Amen.
482
00:26:12,178 --> 00:26:13,804
Amen.
483
00:26:13,887 --> 00:26:15,136
[Greg] It's going to be crazy
because it's going to be
484
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the first birthday that
I've-I've had since I went,
485
00:26:16,679 --> 00:26:18,011
you know, to prison.
486
00:26:18,095 --> 00:26:19,011
[Rosa] Yeah.
487
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So...
488
00:26:20,929 --> 00:26:23,512
this-this should have never
happened in the first place.
489
00:26:23,595 --> 00:26:28,553
And now that you look at
it from this side, um,
490
00:26:28,637 --> 00:26:30,178
I just wonder where my life
would have been
491
00:26:30,261 --> 00:26:32,679
if I never went to prison,
you know.
492
00:26:32,762 --> 00:26:37,887
My hope was to go play
for the NFL and, um,
493
00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:40,345
that wasn't the plan
for my life.
494
00:26:40,428 --> 00:26:41,553
[Rosa] Yes.
495
00:26:41,637 --> 00:26:44,387
[Greg] I could have quit
and I could have--
496
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:47,887
went in there and I could
have just, whatever, gave up.
497
00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:48,887
[Rosa] Yeah.
498
00:26:48,970 --> 00:26:50,387
And look where I'm at.
499
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:51,720
You know?
500
00:26:51,804 --> 00:26:54,220
I'm here, eating dinner
with you, you know.
501
00:26:54,845 --> 00:26:57,303
I get to hop in my car and
come see you, you know.
502
00:26:57,387 --> 00:26:58,595
I get to work.
503
00:26:58,679 --> 00:27:01,637
I get to live a life again,
you know.
504
00:27:04,762 --> 00:27:06,220
[Greg] Yeah, we survived.
505
00:27:09,637 --> 00:27:11,178
And, you know, there was--
there was times, Mom,
506
00:27:11,261 --> 00:27:14,553
where, you know, it's--
it wasn't very easy, you know.
507
00:27:14,637 --> 00:27:16,720
Um, you know, when I--
when I would talk to you
508
00:27:16,804 --> 00:27:19,428
and the family on
the phone I would--
509
00:27:19,512 --> 00:27:21,762
I would make sure to
conduct myself in a way
510
00:27:21,845 --> 00:27:26,929
that would give you guys a
sense of peace,
511
00:27:27,011 --> 00:27:29,595
thinking that I was safe,
believing I was safe,
512
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:33,428
believing that-that-that
there-- people in here
513
00:27:33,512 --> 00:27:34,804
that were supporting me
and this and that.
514
00:27:34,887 --> 00:27:38,637
But the-the reality is, Mom,
is that there were people in
515
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,679
there that hated me because
of what I was in there for.
516
00:27:45,512 --> 00:27:49,261
There was times in there where
people would call me out,
517
00:27:49,345 --> 00:27:52,470
you know, trying to see
if I was tough or not.
518
00:27:52,553 --> 00:27:54,387
There were times in
there where, um,
519
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:55,804
I had to defend myself.
520
00:27:55,887 --> 00:27:58,595
Uh, I did what I had to do
and I just pretty much
521
00:27:58,679 --> 00:28:00,804
just stopped the fight
right there.
522
00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:03,637
Um, I thank God, by God's
grace, that I was--
523
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,970
I was never hurt badly,
you know.
524
00:28:05,053 --> 00:28:06,637
I was-- I was never stabbed.
525
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,929
I was never-- and that does
happen to people in there
526
00:28:10,011 --> 00:28:10,845
with my charge.
527
00:28:10,929 --> 00:28:12,720
That's the reality of it.
528
00:28:14,595 --> 00:28:16,679
[Greg] I don't want to ta--
I didn't-- I didn't want to
529
00:28:16,762 --> 00:28:18,553
talk to my family about it...
- But--
530
00:28:18,637 --> 00:28:19,720
[Greg] ...because it's
stuff that--
531
00:28:31,512 --> 00:28:32,553
[Greg] Mm-hmm.
532
00:29:03,261 --> 00:29:04,387
[Greg] Yeah.
533
00:29:16,929 --> 00:29:18,345
[Greg] Yeah, I'm going to
get another plate.
534
00:29:23,595 --> 00:29:25,303
Okay?
- Yes, Ma'am.
535
00:29:25,387 --> 00:29:26,637
[kiss smack]
536
00:29:27,887 --> 00:29:28,970
I'm going to get some
of that dressing.
537
00:29:35,887 --> 00:29:37,970
Improvements ahead for
Cedar Park Police.
538
00:29:38,053 --> 00:29:40,762
This comes one year after
criticism about its handling
539
00:29:40,845 --> 00:29:43,553
of the Greg Kelley sexual
assault investigation.
540
00:29:43,637 --> 00:29:45,845
In October, the City Council
hired an outside company
541
00:29:45,929 --> 00:29:49,011
to start reviewing the
department's practices.
542
00:29:49,095 --> 00:29:50,887
[female reporter] The
consultants reviewed randomly
543
00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:53,929
chosen cases, went on
ride-alongs with officers,
544
00:29:54,011 --> 00:29:57,720
and interviewed current
and former employees.
545
00:29:57,804 --> 00:29:59,929
City Council ordered the
police review following
546
00:30:00,011 --> 00:30:02,637
department criticism
in the community.
547
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:05,804
I appreciate the opportunity
548
00:30:05,887 --> 00:30:07,178
to come before you
and share some thoughts
549
00:30:07,261 --> 00:30:09,428
about what we learned
during our assessment.
550
00:30:09,512 --> 00:30:12,637
There are definitely areas
where there are blind spots
551
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,929
and weaknesses and red flags
for things that could be
552
00:30:15,011 --> 00:30:17,428
done better at Cedar Park PD.
553
00:30:17,512 --> 00:30:20,053
Now, again, these are
generalizations based upon
554
00:30:20,136 --> 00:30:23,637
looking at all 45 of those
cases as a whole.
555
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,929
There were a number of those
cases, to be quite candid,
556
00:30:26,011 --> 00:30:29,095
that you could use as textbook
examples of how to do
557
00:30:29,178 --> 00:30:30,804
a criminal investigation.
558
00:30:30,887 --> 00:30:35,345
They had these two super cops
that reviewed everything
559
00:30:35,428 --> 00:30:37,095
but the Greg Kelley case.
560
00:30:37,178 --> 00:30:39,637
I don't think they mentioned
Greg Kelley's name one time.
561
00:30:40,011 --> 00:30:41,762
It's very clear to us that
the Chief of Police
562
00:30:41,845 --> 00:30:43,970
has huge internal and
external support for what
563
00:30:44,053 --> 00:30:46,136
he is trying to accomplish
in terms of operational
564
00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:47,720
improvements.
565
00:30:47,804 --> 00:30:49,679
It's very clear that they're
short-staffed there.
566
00:30:49,762 --> 00:30:52,553
You've got one sergeant and
seven detectives in there
567
00:30:52,637 --> 00:30:56,136
that are handling approximately
1,600+ cases a year.
568
00:30:56,220 --> 00:30:58,720
The question is: do they have
the time to do the thorough
569
00:30:58,804 --> 00:31:00,679
investigation they should
and could be doing?
570
00:31:00,762 --> 00:31:02,970
[Jake] We had a pretty good
idea that it was going to be
571
00:31:03,053 --> 00:31:07,470
a roundabout way to just
kind of divert pressure.
572
00:31:07,553 --> 00:31:10,970
And it turns out that
that's exactly what it was.
573
00:31:12,178 --> 00:31:16,887
We have, you know, open court
testimony from multiple people
574
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:22,178
that this in-investigation
was grossly incompetent.
575
00:31:24,053 --> 00:31:28,428
To sit there and try to, in
any way, justify that nonsense
576
00:31:28,512 --> 00:31:29,887
was infuriating.
577
00:31:29,970 --> 00:31:32,929
I've been part of this
organization for 20 years.
578
00:31:33,011 --> 00:31:35,095
And-and I don't think this
statement will--
579
00:31:35,178 --> 00:31:38,220
has changed in 20 years, that
public safety is a priority
580
00:31:38,303 --> 00:31:39,762
in our community.
581
00:31:39,845 --> 00:31:43,011
And I think we take that
role very seriously.
582
00:31:43,095 --> 00:31:47,553
Um, I have-have confidence in
Chief Mannix and-and his team
583
00:31:47,637 --> 00:31:50,679
that they will be able
to-to implement those
584
00:31:50,762 --> 00:31:53,553
recommendations and the
changes that are called for
585
00:31:53,637 --> 00:31:54,970
and-and necessary.
586
00:31:55,053 --> 00:31:57,345
And, Chief, I don't know if
you have anything to
587
00:31:57,428 --> 00:32:01,053
add to that,
but I think you do.
588
00:32:01,136 --> 00:32:03,011
[laughter]
589
00:32:03,095 --> 00:32:04,595
[Sean] Indeed I do.
590
00:32:05,929 --> 00:32:07,762
Thank you, City Manager,
uh, Evans.
591
00:32:07,845 --> 00:32:10,679
I appreciate opp-- appreciate
the opportunity to share my,
592
00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:12,887
uh, comments and thoughts
with you tonight.
593
00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:15,178
The one thing you never hear
from me, uh, is excuses
594
00:32:15,261 --> 00:32:17,053
because the good, the bad or
the ugly, the buck st--
595
00:32:17,136 --> 00:32:18,887
the buck stops here as it
relates to the Cedar Park
596
00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:20,178
Police Department.
597
00:32:20,261 --> 00:32:22,887
Not only will the
implementation of those, uh,
598
00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:25,762
recommendations, uh, you know,
help modernize and make us
599
00:32:25,845 --> 00:32:28,136
a-a-a better department, but
it'll make us an innovative,
600
00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:29,470
uh, department.
601
00:32:29,553 --> 00:32:32,220
We're-- we'll end up being a
model to other agencies
602
00:32:32,303 --> 00:32:34,929
for having made, uh,
this investment.
603
00:32:35,011 --> 00:32:36,136
I don't need a study to
tell me what
604
00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:37,970
the citizens that live here
were telling me,
605
00:32:38,053 --> 00:32:39,970
because I heard it from--
straight from their mouth.
606
00:32:40,053 --> 00:32:42,011
At the end of the day,
it's all about trust.
607
00:32:42,095 --> 00:32:43,887
And one-one of the things I
hope we can just do the
608
00:32:43,970 --> 00:32:45,929
whole time we're working on any
of this, not just the police,
609
00:32:46,011 --> 00:32:48,011
is that we really learn how to
do things that make us
610
00:32:48,095 --> 00:32:50,095
trust each other more
611
00:32:50,178 --> 00:32:53,345
and stop doing things that make
us trust each other less.
612
00:32:53,428 --> 00:32:55,637
That's one thing that will
make this city even greater,
613
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,053
you know, is-is-is that trust.
614
00:32:57,136 --> 00:33:00,095
I really appreciate everything
everybody did on this.
615
00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:03,553
And, uh, man, it was a
really positive experience.
616
00:33:03,637 --> 00:33:05,095
Thank you.
617
00:33:05,178 --> 00:33:08,011
As they were sitting there
joking with each other
618
00:33:08,095 --> 00:33:11,720
and having a jolly old time,
it was very clear that
619
00:33:11,804 --> 00:33:16,595
they felt like the public
was dumb enough to buy it.
620
00:33:16,679 --> 00:33:19,428
The Cedar Park City Council
is absolutely trying to
621
00:33:19,512 --> 00:33:21,804
sweep this under the rug.
622
00:33:22,345 --> 00:33:23,762
[Greg] I wish that they could
just have a conviction
623
00:33:23,845 --> 00:33:27,303
in their heart to know what
they did to a high-school kid.
624
00:33:28,512 --> 00:33:31,053
I believe it was totally
incompetent and I-I know they
625
00:33:31,136 --> 00:33:32,887
knew what they were doing.
626
00:33:33,512 --> 00:33:35,428
But they simply didn't care.
627
00:33:36,095 --> 00:33:39,303
And to-- still to this day,
I-I believe they don't care.
628
00:33:41,011 --> 00:33:43,136
No heads will roll.
629
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:45,136
No.
630
00:33:46,804 --> 00:33:48,804
That's-that's the way it is.
631
00:33:49,512 --> 00:33:50,762
You're not going to win.
632
00:33:50,845 --> 00:33:53,637
You can't sue the police
department and win.
633
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,679
You can't sue the prosecutors
because they've got immunity.
634
00:33:56,762 --> 00:33:57,762
You can't sue the judges.
635
00:33:57,845 --> 00:34:01,011
They have even
stronger immunity.
636
00:34:01,095 --> 00:34:02,011
So--
637
00:34:04,011 --> 00:34:06,637
This is the recourse:
get him exonerated.
638
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,553
And compensate him for the
time we took away from him.
639
00:34:10,637 --> 00:34:14,095
[dog barking]
640
00:34:14,178 --> 00:34:16,011
These are cards that
I couldn't change
641
00:34:16,095 --> 00:34:17,762
that were dealt to me
in my life.
642
00:34:17,845 --> 00:34:18,845
I can't.
643
00:34:18,929 --> 00:34:21,011
You know, like it-it happened.
644
00:34:21,095 --> 00:34:24,637
So when something happens
that you don't like,
645
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:26,178
what do you do then?
646
00:34:26,261 --> 00:34:28,095
Do you sit around complaining
and kick circles?
647
00:34:28,178 --> 00:34:29,136
No, you don't do that.
648
00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:30,178
Most people do that.
649
00:34:30,261 --> 00:34:31,178
But I don't do that.
650
00:34:31,261 --> 00:34:32,387
I choose not to do that.
651
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:34,220
I choose to take another road.
652
00:34:36,095 --> 00:34:40,220
And I had to do that
every day, waking up,
653
00:34:40,303 --> 00:34:42,011
because I'm already waking up
in a place that I don't want
654
00:34:42,095 --> 00:34:45,178
to be in that is completely
depressing.
655
00:34:45,261 --> 00:34:50,011
Every day I wake up to
these freaking bars.
656
00:34:52,345 --> 00:34:54,095
And, um...
657
00:34:56,178 --> 00:34:58,220
I just-- I just--
I had to ask myself:
658
00:34:58,303 --> 00:35:01,887
why can't I just wake up
and go play football?
659
00:35:04,261 --> 00:35:05,887
But instead I had
to see those bars.
660
00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:08,804
And if it's not anything, it's
those bars that remind you
661
00:35:08,887 --> 00:35:11,220
that you're locked
up every day.
662
00:35:12,804 --> 00:35:16,136
And those thoughts decide
to-to-to dwell in.
663
00:35:18,887 --> 00:35:21,136
You know, I don't know where
I'm going to be two or three
664
00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:23,804
years from now in
my life, you know.
665
00:35:23,887 --> 00:35:26,053
I don't even know if I'm
going to be exonerated yet.
666
00:35:26,136 --> 00:35:30,845
So I'm kind of just acting on
faith a little bit, you know.
667
00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:33,595
I'm living every day,
668
00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:36,220
day for day,
669
00:35:36,303 --> 00:35:38,136
putting my trust in God
670
00:35:38,220 --> 00:35:40,220
and fighting for what
I believe in.
671
00:35:40,303 --> 00:35:42,261
But as far as my freedom,
672
00:35:42,345 --> 00:35:43,470
I don't have freedom.
673
00:35:43,553 --> 00:35:44,762
You know?
674
00:35:44,845 --> 00:35:46,887
I don't have the freedom to
start long-term goals.
675
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:48,887
I don't have that, because
I simply don't know where
676
00:35:48,970 --> 00:35:51,303
I'm going to be in six months.
677
00:35:57,345 --> 00:35:58,303
Mm-hmm.
678
00:36:05,011 --> 00:36:05,845
Running?
679
00:36:06,512 --> 00:36:08,095
No, not at all.
680
00:36:08,178 --> 00:36:12,261
I, uh, I've always believed
that home is where
681
00:36:12,345 --> 00:36:13,929
my family's at.
682
00:36:14,011 --> 00:36:18,053
And if I ever thought
about running,
683
00:36:18,136 --> 00:36:20,136
then that would mean that
I'd be leaving my family,
684
00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:22,011
all of my family.
685
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,178
If you run, it's kind of
indicating that you're-you're
686
00:36:25,261 --> 00:36:27,762
afraid and you fear
that you have--
687
00:36:27,845 --> 00:36:29,553
you're going to go back.
688
00:36:29,637 --> 00:36:33,345
And I just continue to tell
myself every day, you know:
689
00:36:33,428 --> 00:36:36,929
we've come this far and I've
got to continue to have faith
690
00:36:37,011 --> 00:36:39,345
that this is all
going to work out.
691
00:36:41,553 --> 00:36:46,136
[crosstalk and cheers]
692
00:36:50,387 --> 00:36:52,011
Ever since I got out of prison,
693
00:36:52,095 --> 00:36:55,095
I was just longing
for an opportunity.
694
00:36:55,178 --> 00:36:57,387
I was waiting for something
that I love, something that
695
00:36:57,470 --> 00:37:00,303
I have a passion for,
to present itself to me.
696
00:37:01,887 --> 00:37:05,220
So it all started when my
brother Aldo told me that,
697
00:37:05,303 --> 00:37:07,428
"Hey, man, there's a guy
named Jeremy Hills.
698
00:37:07,512 --> 00:37:11,261
He trains the UT alumni guys
and the NFL free agents.
699
00:37:11,345 --> 00:37:13,345
And, uh, he would like
to meet you."
700
00:37:15,303 --> 00:37:16,679
My name is Jeremy Hills
701
00:37:16,762 --> 00:37:18,303
and I'm the Director of Sports
Performance here at ONNIT.
702
00:37:18,387 --> 00:37:21,053
And, uh, for a living I get
a chance to train with
703
00:37:21,136 --> 00:37:22,804
some of the best athletes
in the world,
704
00:37:22,887 --> 00:37:24,428
um, professional athletes.
705
00:37:24,512 --> 00:37:27,512
We-we really have a combined
group that we bring all
706
00:37:27,595 --> 00:37:29,011
throughout the NFL.
707
00:37:29,095 --> 00:37:31,220
We've got the NFL, NBA, MLB,
708
00:37:31,303 --> 00:37:33,178
just pro athletes
all the way across.
709
00:37:33,261 --> 00:37:35,095
And, uh, they come here
and they trust us
710
00:37:35,178 --> 00:37:36,553
to help them get better.
711
00:37:36,637 --> 00:37:38,345
Two, two, one, one.
712
00:37:38,428 --> 00:37:40,345
Greg's brother was telling
me that, you know--
713
00:37:40,428 --> 00:37:43,095
about his situation and
about him before this whole
714
00:37:43,178 --> 00:37:44,428
ordeal happened,
715
00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:45,929
how he was a big-time
high-school football player.
716
00:37:46,011 --> 00:37:48,553
And, you know, everybody's
always bragging on:
717
00:37:48,637 --> 00:37:50,512
yeah, I got this nephew or I
got this cousin or whatever.
718
00:37:50,595 --> 00:37:52,553
But when I-- when I-- when
I seen him I was like, well,
719
00:37:52,637 --> 00:37:53,553
damn, he looks good.
720
00:37:53,637 --> 00:37:54,387
You know what?
721
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:55,387
Come by the facility.
722
00:37:55,470 --> 00:37:57,136
Let's-let's just see.
723
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:04,220
And, uh, then he asked
me the question
724
00:38:04,303 --> 00:38:07,637
if I wanted to ever play
football again.
725
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:11,637
It's a question I've been
waiting for for a long time.
726
00:38:12,428 --> 00:38:14,720
You know, I've always had
a dream of playing for
727
00:38:14,804 --> 00:38:16,220
University of Texas.
728
00:38:16,303 --> 00:38:19,595
I told him I would really hope
and I would really appreciate
729
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:22,303
if I could run out on field
as a Longhorn.
730
00:38:23,261 --> 00:38:24,428
That is the plan.
731
00:38:24,512 --> 00:38:27,011
I thought that was a-a
bit bold, you know,
732
00:38:27,095 --> 00:38:29,470
to say the least, like you
can just walk on at UT.
733
00:38:29,553 --> 00:38:30,720
I played at UT.
734
00:38:30,804 --> 00:38:33,220
So, uh, I seen the talent
that was kind of
735
00:38:33,303 --> 00:38:35,345
expected to be there.
736
00:38:38,345 --> 00:38:41,053
I haven't touched a
field in four years,
737
00:38:41,136 --> 00:38:42,345
you know.
738
00:38:42,428 --> 00:38:47,220
And I have-- I haven't
done anything that
739
00:38:47,303 --> 00:38:49,011
had anything to do
with football,
740
00:38:49,095 --> 00:38:51,512
drills and training,
in four years.
741
00:38:51,595 --> 00:38:53,345
Like I'm over here,
like nervous.
742
00:38:53,428 --> 00:38:55,470
Like I don't want to
make a fool of myself.
743
00:38:55,553 --> 00:39:00,637
[crosstalk]
744
00:39:10,261 --> 00:39:14,095
[low dramatic music]
745
00:39:14,178 --> 00:39:14,970
[Greg] I pray about it.
746
00:39:15,053 --> 00:39:16,470
I'm like: you know what?
747
00:39:16,553 --> 00:39:19,261
I'm going to show up and
just-just show them my heart.
748
00:39:19,345 --> 00:39:23,178
I might not be the best
one there but, uh,
749
00:39:23,261 --> 00:39:25,637
these guys are not going
to outwork me today.
750
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:28,053
So then I gave him the
opportunity to back it up.
751
00:39:28,136 --> 00:39:30,470
A couple of-- couple of NFL
talent guys in there are
752
00:39:30,553 --> 00:39:32,011
working and getting better.
753
00:39:32,095 --> 00:39:34,595
And-and, shoot, I'll throw Greg
right in the mix with them.
754
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:35,762
I-I'm-I'm not holding back.
755
00:39:35,845 --> 00:39:37,428
It's like: you want to
play at this level,
756
00:39:37,512 --> 00:39:39,553
then you need to learn how
to work, how they work.
757
00:39:41,387 --> 00:39:44,720
It only takes maybe-maybe
an hour, not even a day,
758
00:39:44,804 --> 00:39:47,136
maybe an hour,
before you realize:
759
00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:49,637
oh, shit, I'm not
ready for this.
760
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:51,053
[crosstalk]
761
00:39:51,136 --> 00:39:52,345
Guys, let's go.
762
00:39:53,095 --> 00:39:54,095
All right, guys, ready?
763
00:39:55,053 --> 00:39:57,553
Three, two, one, here we go!
764
00:39:57,637 --> 00:40:06,011
[treadmill noise]
765
00:40:06,095 --> 00:40:10,595
[low inspirational music]
766
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:12,387
[Jeremy] And it punched him in
the stomach the first time.
767
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:14,136
The very first time he
showed up I could tell
768
00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:15,387
it was different.
769
00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:16,637
Then he showed up
the next day.
770
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,220
Then he showed up
early the third day.
771
00:40:18,303 --> 00:40:20,178
He's been early
every day since.
772
00:40:20,261 --> 00:40:21,220
And now here he is.
773
00:40:21,303 --> 00:40:22,637
You look at them,
you look at him:
774
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:23,679
you tell me the difference.
775
00:40:23,762 --> 00:40:34,387
[low inspirational music]
776
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:35,387
[trainer] Let's go.
777
00:40:35,470 --> 00:40:37,178
One more, one more.
778
00:40:37,261 --> 00:40:39,220
Let's go, let's go.
779
00:40:39,303 --> 00:40:40,053
Here we go.
780
00:40:40,136 --> 00:40:41,345
Nice work.
781
00:40:41,428 --> 00:40:42,553
[Greg] Watch out,
it's coming down.
782
00:40:42,637 --> 00:40:44,220
[MJ] Yes, sir.
783
00:40:44,970 --> 00:40:46,261
Good work.
784
00:40:46,553 --> 00:40:47,512
I think he's right on track,
I mean,
785
00:40:47,595 --> 00:40:48,679
especially with his story.
786
00:40:48,762 --> 00:40:51,095
Uh, you see him today,
you know.
787
00:40:51,178 --> 00:40:54,470
He's keeping up with everybody,
lifting the same weight as I am.
788
00:40:54,553 --> 00:40:57,428
And I'm a tight end and he's
a DB, so that's very, very
789
00:40:57,512 --> 00:40:59,345
impressive on his end.
790
00:40:59,428 --> 00:41:01,637
That just tells me I need
to pick it up a notch.
791
00:41:03,470 --> 00:41:05,637
[Greg] You know, this
opportunity is literally an
792
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,303
opportunity of a lifetime
for me right now.
793
00:41:08,387 --> 00:41:09,845
I'm not getting younger.
794
00:41:09,929 --> 00:41:11,637
I'm 23 years old.
795
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:14,303
I have to take advantage of
every little thing that I get.
796
00:41:14,387 --> 00:41:18,136
And I have to literally
work my butt off again
797
00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:20,637
to get what I love.
798
00:41:21,887 --> 00:41:23,762
Right now for him to
realistically have a chance
799
00:41:23,845 --> 00:41:26,261
to walk onto UT, I mean
first he'd have--
800
00:41:26,345 --> 00:41:28,428
he will have to be
fully exonerated.
801
00:41:28,512 --> 00:41:31,136
And then once that process is
done, then he'll have to be
802
00:41:31,220 --> 00:41:33,470
able to be admitted
to the university
803
00:41:33,553 --> 00:41:35,595
and then get the opportunity
to go try out
804
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:37,470
for the walk-on squad.
805
00:41:37,553 --> 00:41:40,679
I think everything
outside of trying out
806
00:41:40,762 --> 00:41:43,679
for the walk-on squad,
that's the tough part.
807
00:41:43,762 --> 00:41:46,804
When it comes to him actually
getting to those tryouts,
808
00:41:46,887 --> 00:41:48,637
I'm betting all my money on it.
809
00:41:50,762 --> 00:41:51,887
[Greg] Now I'm just
waiting to get exonerated
810
00:41:51,970 --> 00:41:54,762
so I can just put these
wheels into motion.
811
00:41:55,470 --> 00:41:57,887
I would really be
grateful for anything,
812
00:41:57,970 --> 00:42:00,804
that I could just play the f--
game of football again.
813
00:42:00,887 --> 00:42:11,804
[soft dramatic music]
814
00:42:11,887 --> 00:42:13,428
After this first happened to
me, you kind of just lose
815
00:42:13,512 --> 00:42:15,178
trust in the judicial system.
816
00:42:15,261 --> 00:42:17,136
And you lose trust
in law enforcement.
817
00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:20,470
And it's like you ask this
question again like:
818
00:42:20,553 --> 00:42:21,804
can this happen again?
819
00:42:21,887 --> 00:42:23,261
You know?
820
00:42:23,345 --> 00:42:25,512
Like is there something going
on behind the scenes that
821
00:42:25,595 --> 00:42:28,261
I don't know about and my
family and my supporters
822
00:42:28,345 --> 00:42:30,220
and my fighters don't
know about?
823
00:42:30,303 --> 00:42:31,887
Is it political?
824
00:42:31,970 --> 00:42:33,345
You know?
825
00:42:33,428 --> 00:42:35,553
And somebody's-- somebody had
their hand in this, you know?
826
00:42:35,637 --> 00:42:37,637
And that's what I fear the
most, is that if somebody
827
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:41,428
has their hand in this and
somebody does something
828
00:42:41,512 --> 00:42:45,762
totally unethical that I
go back because of that.
829
00:42:47,011 --> 00:42:49,512
[Shawn] Before Greg Kelley
was released from jail,
830
00:42:49,595 --> 00:42:51,011
uh, Ranger Mitchell did have,
831
00:42:51,095 --> 00:42:54,345
um-- he requested some
search warrants.
832
00:42:54,428 --> 00:42:56,261
So it was only after the
search warrants became public
833
00:42:56,345 --> 00:42:58,595
that I saw the allegations.
834
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:01,428
I was blindsided,
as we all were,
835
00:43:01,512 --> 00:43:04,512
uh, when the ranger filed
that search warrant.
836
00:43:04,595 --> 00:43:06,929
It made a big
splash in the news.
837
00:43:07,011 --> 00:43:08,762
[male reporter] New evidence
is emerging, broadening the
838
00:43:08,845 --> 00:43:10,470
lens around Greg Kelley.
839
00:43:10,553 --> 00:43:11,762
[female reporter] Now we are
learning new information
840
00:43:11,845 --> 00:43:14,762
from the Texas Ranger's
investigation that keeps...
841
00:43:14,845 --> 00:43:16,512
[male reporter] The search
warrants paint a darker
842
00:43:16,595 --> 00:43:19,512
picture of Kelley, revealing
evidence taken from his
843
00:43:19,595 --> 00:43:21,595
cell phone and his computer.
844
00:43:22,261 --> 00:43:26,220
[Keith] The search warrant
affidavit is a 180 from what
845
00:43:26,303 --> 00:43:29,553
this ranger, uh, testified to.
846
00:43:29,637 --> 00:43:33,845
I would be scared to
death to think that
847
00:43:33,929 --> 00:43:36,553
I could be-- end up in the
same position with no evidence
848
00:43:36,637 --> 00:43:38,970
whatsoever and no
investigation done
849
00:43:39,053 --> 00:43:43,553
and be convicted of something
that I may or may not have done.
850
00:43:43,637 --> 00:43:47,762
[Keith] He's practically
exonerating Greg.
851
00:43:47,845 --> 00:43:52,679
And then just two weeks later,
this guy is a secret monster.
852
00:43:52,762 --> 00:43:54,762
It was just very shocking.
853
00:43:54,845 --> 00:43:56,887
[male reporter] Greg Kelley,
according to the warrant,
854
00:43:56,970 --> 00:43:59,970
spent hours alone with
children at the daycare
855
00:44:00,053 --> 00:44:01,512
where he lived.
856
00:44:01,595 --> 00:44:03,303
[female reporter] Rangers say
Kelley's pattern of viewing
857
00:44:03,387 --> 00:44:05,512
pornography became suspicious.
858
00:44:05,595 --> 00:44:07,345
[male reporter] He engaged
in what the warrants called
859
00:44:07,428 --> 00:44:11,178
high-risk sexual behavior by
meeting other people through
860
00:44:11,261 --> 00:44:16,470
a website that connects adults
looking for sexual activity.
861
00:44:16,553 --> 00:44:19,595
I, along with everybody else,
862
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:23,679
took a big step back
and-and thought:
863
00:44:23,762 --> 00:44:27,762
wow, maybe we really didn't
know him after all.
864
00:44:27,845 --> 00:44:28,804
My God.
865
00:44:28,887 --> 00:44:30,804
We were done with the
writ hearing.
866
00:44:30,887 --> 00:44:35,679
We had all the information
we needed to, um,
867
00:44:35,762 --> 00:44:38,720
figure out the answers
on the defendant's writ.
868
00:44:38,804 --> 00:44:40,762
And I think what Ranger Mitchell
was doing as a
869
00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:43,804
secondary investigation
was trying to go back
870
00:44:43,887 --> 00:44:45,970
and see if he could
solve the crime.
871
00:44:46,053 --> 00:44:47,637
[Keith] And what this ranger
did was he first tried
872
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:50,845
to get the judge to sign
the search warrant
873
00:44:50,929 --> 00:44:52,553
based on this affidavit.
874
00:44:52,637 --> 00:44:54,637
She said, "You need to
run it by Shawn,"
875
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:55,804
which he hadn't.
876
00:44:55,887 --> 00:45:00,428
So he finds Shawn and
downplays it with him.
877
00:45:00,512 --> 00:45:02,303
The way it was presented
to me was that these
878
00:45:02,387 --> 00:45:04,512
were just sort of routine
run-of-the-mill search warrants,
879
00:45:04,595 --> 00:45:08,720
that he was, uh, looking
for information regarding,
880
00:45:08,804 --> 00:45:11,679
you know, Greg's phone,
Johnathan's phone.
881
00:45:11,762 --> 00:45:13,720
And so it was presented to
me in a-- in a way that
882
00:45:13,804 --> 00:45:15,804
made it seem like it was
very innocuous.
883
00:45:15,887 --> 00:45:18,845
He says, "Oh, ok-- you just
want to do some more searches?
884
00:45:18,929 --> 00:45:19,637
Sure.
885
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:21,345
That's fine with me."
886
00:45:21,428 --> 00:45:24,845
And so she-- he goes back
and she gets--
887
00:45:24,929 --> 00:45:28,387
and lends the judge the
impression that he's
888
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:30,345
down with all of it.
889
00:45:30,428 --> 00:45:32,095
So she's like, "Okay."
890
00:45:32,178 --> 00:45:33,303
So she signs it.
891
00:45:33,387 --> 00:45:35,512
I found out from the media
the next day, um,
892
00:45:35,595 --> 00:45:37,428
that Ranger Mitchell had filed
some search warrants that
893
00:45:37,512 --> 00:45:40,512
had a lot of information in it.
894
00:45:42,637 --> 00:45:45,095
By making those kinds of
details public
895
00:45:45,178 --> 00:45:47,720
and by putting it forward
in an affidavit,
896
00:45:47,804 --> 00:45:49,762
you're-you're trying to
sway public opinion
897
00:45:49,845 --> 00:45:51,679
one way or the other.
898
00:45:51,762 --> 00:45:54,970
And I was disappointed
that-that we chose the--
899
00:45:55,053 --> 00:45:59,720
we-- the-the ranger
chose to, um--
900
00:45:59,804 --> 00:46:00,970
the timing of-of the
search warrant.
901
00:46:01,053 --> 00:46:03,428
Certainly, we had that
information earlier.
902
00:46:03,512 --> 00:46:04,845
He could have requested that
search warrant earlier,
903
00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:06,845
before the hearing.
904
00:46:07,804 --> 00:46:10,970
[Keith] "My belief is based
on the following facts."
905
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:17,053
And-and he'd list what
he claims are facts.
906
00:46:18,136 --> 00:46:22,553
"I, Cody Mitchell, hereafter
referred to as the Affiant,
907
00:46:22,637 --> 00:46:25,512
a peace officer employed by
the Texas Department
908
00:46:25,595 --> 00:46:28,595
of Public Safety,
Texas Rangers Division,
909
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:31,929
do solemnly swear that I
have reason to believe
910
00:46:32,011 --> 00:46:34,720
and do believe that
electronic customer data
911
00:46:34,804 --> 00:46:38,011
held in storage by
Adult Friend Finder
912
00:46:38,095 --> 00:46:42,512
constitutes evidence of the
offense of aggravated
913
00:46:42,595 --> 00:46:44,929
sexual assault of a child."
914
00:46:47,553 --> 00:46:49,261
Adult Friend Finder.
915
00:46:49,345 --> 00:46:50,595
Well, I investigated.
916
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:53,136
I went to Adult Friend
Finder [laughs].
917
00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:59,970
I checked using the ranger's
own handles that he says here.
918
00:47:00,387 --> 00:47:06,679
The third one is Greg,
G-R-E-G,
919
00:47:06,762 --> 00:47:08,470
R as in Raymond,
920
00:47:08,553 --> 00:47:11,720
Kelley, K-E-L-L-E-Y,
921
00:47:11,804 --> 00:47:12,929
and the number 3.
922
00:47:13,011 --> 00:47:14,887
So Greg R--
923
00:47:14,970 --> 00:47:16,095
Yes sir.
924
00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:26,303
I had them go through their
database for all four.
925
00:47:27,053 --> 00:47:32,804
They reported back to me both
verbally and in writing
926
00:47:32,887 --> 00:47:35,929
they have no such records.
927
00:47:36,011 --> 00:47:40,970
He was not ever a member
of Adult Friend Finder.
928
00:47:42,178 --> 00:47:44,720
[Greg] I remember one time,
man, where he started
929
00:47:44,804 --> 00:47:47,470
talking about my
phone history.
930
00:47:47,553 --> 00:47:52,804
And he started talking about
Adult Friend Finder to me.
931
00:47:52,887 --> 00:47:55,845
And I was like, "Man, I've
never been on that website.
932
00:47:55,929 --> 00:47:56,929
I've never been on
that website.
933
00:47:57,011 --> 00:47:58,470
I've never used it."
934
00:47:58,553 --> 00:48:01,845
He starts getting very,
very angry like-like--
935
00:48:01,929 --> 00:48:03,679
because he's not--
he-he's not--
936
00:48:03,762 --> 00:48:05,845
he's not getting out of
me what he wants.
937
00:48:05,929 --> 00:48:08,136
And he says, "You
know what, Greg?"
938
00:48:08,387 --> 00:48:10,595
And then he told me this, and
I've told you this before.
939
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:12,637
He said, "You know, the
higher you can get, Greg,
940
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,053
the harder you're
going to fall."
941
00:48:14,136 --> 00:48:15,845
That's what he said.
942
00:48:15,929 --> 00:48:18,470
And I'm like: what
does that even mean?
943
00:48:18,553 --> 00:48:19,553
You know?
944
00:48:19,637 --> 00:48:21,303
What are you trying to imply?
945
00:48:22,095 --> 00:48:26,887
That's-- to me it's like all
this is going in my favor,
946
00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:28,720
the truth is finally
coming out,
947
00:48:28,804 --> 00:48:31,303
he's not liking it,
948
00:48:31,387 --> 00:48:33,845
he's trying to ride the fence,
949
00:48:33,929 --> 00:48:36,679
and it seems like the
higher I'm getting,
950
00:48:36,762 --> 00:48:39,804
he's going to find something
to smash me into the ground.
951
00:48:40,095 --> 00:48:41,595
[male reporter] According
to the warrant,
952
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:44,637
there is discussion that
Greg Kelley in fact had a
953
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,178
photograph of himself
with this young boy,
954
00:48:47,261 --> 00:48:50,345
this four-year-old boy that
he was later convicted
955
00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:52,970
of-of sexually molesting.
956
00:48:54,011 --> 00:48:57,053
There is a photo.
957
00:48:57,136 --> 00:49:01,595
The only selfie is the one
with him and Gaebri
958
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:03,679
and not CV1.
959
00:49:03,762 --> 00:49:05,845
It's a different child.
960
00:49:05,929 --> 00:49:08,136
[Greg] Who initiated
the selfie?
961
00:49:10,804 --> 00:49:14,595
So it was just like-- and
take a picture all of us.
962
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:17,887
And I remember Parker is
just smiling just huge.
963
00:49:17,970 --> 00:49:19,136
Yeah.
964
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:21,804
[Greg] Yeah.
965
00:49:24,804 --> 00:49:26,303
It's the only one
I can think of.
966
00:49:26,387 --> 00:49:27,887
It's the only one.
967
00:49:27,970 --> 00:49:29,929
Why would I take a
picture with a kid?
968
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:33,887
[Keith] "The Affiant believes
to a high degree of probability
969
00:49:34,011 --> 00:49:37,679
that during the 2013 to
2014 time period,
970
00:49:37,762 --> 00:49:41,804
Kelley was displaying
undeniable indicators
971
00:49:41,887 --> 00:49:45,887
of being a sexually motivated
high-risk threat
972
00:49:45,970 --> 00:49:49,011
and was in need of
help and guidance
973
00:49:49,095 --> 00:49:53,387
to understand his feelings
and control his urges."
974
00:49:53,887 --> 00:49:58,095
I assure you no cop has
ever written a paragraph
975
00:49:58,178 --> 00:50:00,720
like this to get
a search warrant.
976
00:50:00,804 --> 00:50:03,261
Dr. Freud here has appeared:
977
00:50:03,345 --> 00:50:05,428
Greg looked at porn sites--
978
00:50:05,512 --> 00:50:07,136
probably a child molester.
979
00:50:07,220 --> 00:50:11,095
Well, there-there are
millions of American males
980
00:50:11,178 --> 00:50:15,720
who are not child molesters but
they've looked at naked women.
981
00:50:19,053 --> 00:50:20,345
I think that was whenever--
that was--
982
00:50:20,428 --> 00:50:21,887
that was during the polygraph.
983
00:50:22,428 --> 00:50:23,720
That was the polygraph day.
984
00:50:30,804 --> 00:50:36,345
[crosstalk]
985
00:50:39,762 --> 00:50:40,970
[officer] Y'all need anything?
986
00:50:41,595 --> 00:50:43,136
Do you need to go to the
bathroom or anything?
987
00:50:43,220 --> 00:50:44,720
[Cody] No, I'm fine right now.
988
00:50:50,970 --> 00:50:54,220
Yeah, I've passed every
question but one.
989
00:50:55,387 --> 00:50:58,887
Yeah, if I stuck my-my penis
in the kid's mouth.
990
00:50:59,345 --> 00:51:02,053
There was, um, based on the
report from-from
991
00:51:02,136 --> 00:51:05,178
Ranger Mitchell, uh, there was
a polygraph given where there
992
00:51:05,261 --> 00:51:07,345
was some deception indicated.
993
00:51:07,428 --> 00:51:09,303
It does complicate things,
because I think in the court
994
00:51:09,387 --> 00:51:12,178
of public opinion, polygraphs
carry a lot of weight.
995
00:51:12,261 --> 00:51:15,720
Polygraphs are not really
used in prosecution
996
00:51:15,804 --> 00:51:18,178
to discover the truth.
997
00:51:18,261 --> 00:51:21,053
They're-they're a tool,
an investigative tool,
998
00:51:21,136 --> 00:51:24,095
that's used to see if you can
get, um, someone in an
999
00:51:24,178 --> 00:51:26,720
interview to change their story
1000
00:51:26,804 --> 00:51:29,011
or give you more details
of their story.
1001
00:51:29,095 --> 00:51:30,762
Do I get angry when
I talk about it?
1002
00:51:30,845 --> 00:51:33,220
Yes, I do, because I have
to keep on talking.
1003
00:51:33,303 --> 00:51:35,887
I have to explain, when all
I want to do is get on a
1004
00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:38,387
mountain, shout that I'm--
I didn't do it.
1005
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:39,387
[Cody] Yeah.
1006
00:51:39,470 --> 00:51:40,220
You know?
1007
00:51:40,303 --> 00:51:41,553
That's not enough.
1008
00:51:41,637 --> 00:51:42,553
You know?
1009
00:51:42,637 --> 00:51:43,887
Um...
1010
00:51:46,970 --> 00:51:47,845
yeah.
1011
00:51:48,637 --> 00:51:51,303
[Cody] I want to say that's
where [unintelligible].
1012
00:51:53,387 --> 00:51:57,095
It just makes me angry,
man, when-when, uh,
1013
00:51:58,637 --> 00:52:00,303
when I get told--
when I get told--
1014
00:52:00,387 --> 00:52:03,929
when I get asked over and
over again if I did this,
1015
00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:06,762
I don't want to answer anymore.
1016
00:52:06,845 --> 00:52:09,220
I'm sick and tired of it.
1017
00:52:11,887 --> 00:52:13,261
I've got to do it, though.
1018
00:52:14,053 --> 00:52:16,095
[Keith] He was there for hours.
1019
00:52:16,178 --> 00:52:18,220
I don't really remember
how-how long,
1020
00:52:18,303 --> 00:52:20,845
but it was a long time.
1021
00:53:05,053 --> 00:53:06,220
Ranger, I'm-I'm angry.
1022
00:53:06,303 --> 00:53:08,637
I'm-I'm tired.
1023
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:09,470
I'm cold.
1024
00:53:12,053 --> 00:53:12,929
I mean I didn't eat.
1025
00:53:13,011 --> 00:53:14,428
I don't-- I don't know
what the--
1026
00:53:14,512 --> 00:53:16,095
what the explanation is here.
1027
00:53:16,178 --> 00:53:17,470
[Cody] I know.
1028
00:53:17,553 --> 00:53:20,178
And I don't-- I don't know
why this is happening to me.
1029
00:53:20,261 --> 00:53:23,762
I texted the ranger:
"Shut this down now,"
1030
00:53:23,845 --> 00:53:24,929
you know.
1031
00:53:25,011 --> 00:53:26,929
It-it was an in-your-face
message.
1032
00:53:27,011 --> 00:53:28,345
And he wasn't.
1033
00:53:28,428 --> 00:53:32,011
And so I got a hold of the
Sheriff and they shut it down.
1034
00:53:32,095 --> 00:53:33,595
And I'm very glad I did.
1035
00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:36,136
I'm sorry Greg had to go
through that.
1036
00:53:52,095 --> 00:53:54,261
[Shawn] And then, uh, you know,
Keith Hampton,
1037
00:53:54,345 --> 00:53:56,679
the defense lawyer
for-for Greg Kelley,
1038
00:53:56,762 --> 00:53:58,512
has his own polygraph done.
1039
00:53:58,595 --> 00:54:01,136
Greg passed my polygraph.
1040
00:54:01,220 --> 00:54:06,512
My guy taught the guy, the
ranger had administered it.
1041
00:54:06,595 --> 00:54:09,345
Polygraphs are not admissible
in a court of law,
1042
00:54:09,428 --> 00:54:12,512
um, in-in any-- in any
jurisdiction I'm aware of
1043
00:54:12,595 --> 00:54:14,345
in Texas, for sure.
1044
00:54:14,428 --> 00:54:17,011
And there's a reason
they're not admissible.
1045
00:54:17,095 --> 00:54:21,178
Y-you really don't expect
1046
00:54:21,261 --> 00:54:25,929
a-a ranger to go to this length
1047
00:54:26,011 --> 00:54:30,595
of completely false assertions.
1048
00:54:38,011 --> 00:54:40,428
So, um, I don't know.
1049
00:54:40,512 --> 00:54:42,303
That's a better question for
the-- whether there's
1050
00:54:42,387 --> 00:54:46,261
false or misleading information
in that, um, affidavit
1051
00:54:46,345 --> 00:54:48,428
is a better question for
the Texas Rangers.
1052
00:54:53,261 --> 00:54:54,970
[Greg] It feels like I'm-I'm
just being accused all over
1053
00:54:55,053 --> 00:54:57,970
again and they're not
trying to prove anything.
1054
00:54:59,011 --> 00:55:01,053
So I have no idea
what his motive is,
1055
00:55:01,136 --> 00:55:03,887
and it freaks me out.
1056
00:55:03,970 --> 00:55:05,428
Because I know one thing:
1057
00:55:05,512 --> 00:55:08,261
Chris Dailey was never
even like that.
1058
00:55:08,345 --> 00:55:10,637
Chris Dailey was either
against me or for me.
1059
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:13,053
And this dude was
full-on against me.
1060
00:55:13,136 --> 00:55:14,095
Right?
1061
00:55:14,178 --> 00:55:15,136
And you know what?
1062
00:55:15,220 --> 00:55:16,053
I can come to terms with that,
1063
00:55:16,136 --> 00:55:17,470
because I know why
he's doing it.
1064
00:55:17,553 --> 00:55:19,595
I don't know why the
Texas Ranger's doing this.
1065
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:21,053
I don't.
1066
00:55:21,136 --> 00:55:24,053
Some investigators, the
way that they attack
1067
00:55:24,136 --> 00:55:28,345
an investigation is to
treat each suspect
1068
00:55:28,428 --> 00:55:31,261
as the target of the
investigation.
1069
00:55:31,345 --> 00:55:34,095
It may be an investigative
technique that Ranger Mitchell's
1070
00:55:34,178 --> 00:55:37,428
looking at doing in terms of:
1071
00:55:37,512 --> 00:55:41,053
okay, let me treat him like
he is the primary suspect
1072
00:55:41,136 --> 00:55:42,470
and let's see what happens.
1073
00:55:42,553 --> 00:55:45,595
So, I'm not really being
in Cody's mind,
1074
00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:47,470
in the Texas Ranger's mind,
1075
00:55:47,553 --> 00:55:49,470
that may have been what he
was trying to do.
1076
00:55:51,053 --> 00:55:53,512
After all of this,
1077
00:55:53,595 --> 00:55:56,345
I go back to get Greg
1078
00:55:56,428 --> 00:55:59,428
a-a-and-and walk him
out of that jail.
1079
00:55:59,512 --> 00:56:02,345
And then Greg comes out,
and I look over.
1080
00:56:02,428 --> 00:56:09,178
In a black truck is this
ranger with this big smile
1081
00:56:09,261 --> 00:56:11,637
on his face.
1082
00:56:12,387 --> 00:56:15,261
And I just went: this is--
what are-- for--
1083
00:56:15,345 --> 00:56:19,136
what are you doing here was
my feeling, pretty hostile.
1084
00:56:19,220 --> 00:56:22,470
And there he is, big grin on
his face, and waves at me.
1085
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:30,220
What the ranger did--
1086
00:56:30,303 --> 00:56:35,095
this was a drive-by character
assassination of Greg Kelley.
1087
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:40,512
The judge found
Greg to be credible.
1088
00:56:40,595 --> 00:56:42,762
She found him to be innocent.
1089
00:56:42,845 --> 00:56:47,345
She read that entire
search warrant affidavit.
1090
00:56:47,428 --> 00:56:51,679
And, uh, so it meant
nothing to the judge.
1091
00:56:51,762 --> 00:56:54,845
It meant nothing to the
DA's Office.
1092
00:56:54,929 --> 00:56:57,345
And it meant nothing to me.
1093
00:56:57,428 --> 00:57:02,303
It does mean something to Greg
because there will always
1094
00:57:02,387 --> 00:57:04,595
be a doubt with
somebody out there.
1095
00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:15,178
The ranger has had a y--
we're at a year and a half.
1096
00:57:15,261 --> 00:57:16,679
I don't think we're ever
going to see a report
1097
00:57:16,762 --> 00:57:18,470
from this ranger.
1098
00:57:19,261 --> 00:57:20,679
He-- nothing?
1099
00:57:20,762 --> 00:57:22,470
A year and a half?
1100
00:57:24,387 --> 00:57:25,470
No.
1101
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:30,512
[Greg] Ideally, I need
this as soon as possible
1102
00:57:30,595 --> 00:57:33,887
because football's hanging
on a thread right now.
1103
00:57:34,637 --> 00:57:38,595
And, um, I can't do the things
that I've been training
1104
00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:41,762
my butt off for unless
[laughs],
1105
00:57:41,845 --> 00:57:43,053
this happens.
1106
00:57:43,136 --> 00:57:46,679
Um, I kind of feel like
I'm really anchored down.
1107
00:57:46,762 --> 00:57:51,470
But I need this to happen
within the next two months,
1108
00:57:51,553 --> 00:57:53,220
you know, three months.
1109
00:57:56,303 --> 00:57:57,929
[Keith] Greg Kelley's case,
1110
00:57:58,011 --> 00:57:59,762
the journey of his case,
1111
00:57:59,845 --> 00:58:04,595
has been unique and
unprecedented at every stage.
1112
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:08,178
No one would have anticipated
the various events
1113
00:58:08,261 --> 00:58:10,470
that have already
occurred in this case.
1114
00:58:10,553 --> 00:58:15,762
My worry as I sit here right
now is the dark scenario
1115
00:58:15,845 --> 00:58:22,345
of another opportunity to make
another go at Greg Kelley.
1116
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:27,845
The idea that this could
all be swept away, uh,
1117
00:58:27,929 --> 00:58:32,220
from him because of the forces
that are allied against him
1118
00:58:32,303 --> 00:58:35,095
at the Court of Criminal
Appeals is unthinkable.
1119
00:58:35,178 --> 00:58:36,804
But I have to think about it:
1120
00:58:39,387 --> 00:58:42,303
how could we be defeated?
1121
00:58:42,387 --> 00:58:44,762
How could this all be
taken away from him?
1122
00:58:44,845 --> 00:58:48,679
And I hate to say it, but
it is in fact possible.
1123
00:58:53,553 --> 00:59:03,720
♪ dramatic music ♪
1124
00:59:03,804 --> 00:59:15,637
♪
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