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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,387 --> 00:00:14,136 Successful prosecution. 2 00:00:14,220 --> 00:00:16,804 [Keith Hampton] There's been an outcry in Leander, Texas. 3 00:00:16,887 --> 00:00:19,136 Everyone is saying, "You've got the wrong guy." 4 00:00:19,220 --> 00:00:21,220 [Shawn Dick] In walks a district court judge. 5 00:00:21,303 --> 00:00:23,095 [Judge Mathews] I advised him not to file charges 6 00:00:23,178 --> 00:00:24,303 at that point. 7 00:00:24,387 --> 00:00:26,053 He said, "Well, it'll strengthen the case 8 00:00:26,136 --> 00:00:27,345 against the first child." 9 00:00:29,220 --> 00:00:31,136 Yes, I don't know why that-- why that would be unfair 10 00:00:31,220 --> 00:00:32,470 to call it corruption. 11 00:00:32,553 --> 00:00:34,303 [male reporter] Now the focus is on an attorney 12 00:00:34,387 --> 00:00:36,303 who defended him back in 2014. 13 00:00:36,387 --> 00:00:38,136 [Keith] The tables suddenly turn, 14 00:00:38,220 --> 00:00:42,303 where his prior lawyer becomes his worst enemy. 15 00:00:42,387 --> 00:00:45,470 Back at the time in 2013, there's a facial similarity 16 00:00:45,553 --> 00:00:47,970 between Johnathan and Greg Kelley. 17 00:00:48,053 --> 00:00:49,804 [Patricia] Was I aware that there was a resemblance? 18 00:00:49,887 --> 00:00:50,762 Is that the question? 19 00:00:50,845 --> 00:00:52,303 Sure, I was, yes. 20 00:00:52,387 --> 00:00:55,095 They looked like twins to me. 21 00:00:55,178 --> 00:00:56,845 For whatever reason, she's convinced that 22 00:00:56,929 --> 00:00:58,512 Johnathan McCarty's not someone that we should 23 00:00:58,595 --> 00:00:59,845 even be looking at. 24 00:00:59,929 --> 00:01:01,679 [Cody Mitchell] I am a Texas Ranger employed by the 25 00:01:01,762 --> 00:01:03,804 Texas Department of Public Safety. 26 00:01:03,887 --> 00:01:07,804 Different entities did things that shouldn't have been done 27 00:01:07,887 --> 00:01:10,470 and hit this-this defendant. 28 00:01:10,553 --> 00:01:12,470 The only person that has met the 29 00:01:12,553 --> 00:01:15,178 probable cause bar is Greg Kelley. 30 00:01:15,261 --> 00:01:16,929 [female reporter] Now we are learning new information 31 00:01:17,011 --> 00:01:18,845 from the Texas Ranger's investigation that 32 00:01:18,929 --> 00:01:21,762 keeps him as an active suspect. 33 00:01:24,345 --> 00:01:27,345 Yeah, I've passed every question but one. 34 00:01:27,428 --> 00:01:31,220 Mr. Kelley has lied about several things. 35 00:01:31,303 --> 00:01:32,845 [Shawn] I think initially I was pretty convinced 36 00:01:32,929 --> 00:01:34,720 of his innocence. 37 00:01:36,595 --> 00:01:38,095 Now I hate to say this but I-I just-- 38 00:01:38,178 --> 00:01:40,303 I wouldn't be surprised either way. 39 00:01:42,303 --> 00:01:49,053 [dramatic music] 40 00:01:49,136 --> 00:01:50,345 [jury foreman] We the jury find the defendant 41 00:01:50,428 --> 00:01:53,011 Gregory Kelley guilty of the offense of 42 00:01:53,095 --> 00:01:55,887 super aggravated sexual assault. 43 00:01:58,970 --> 00:02:00,136 Mm-hmm. 44 00:02:06,303 --> 00:02:10,261 [sharp exhale] He turned red and... 45 00:02:10,345 --> 00:02:15,095 [dramatic music] 46 00:02:15,178 --> 00:02:17,428 as a juror, after that, that's something 47 00:02:17,512 --> 00:02:19,136 you want to block out. 48 00:02:31,178 --> 00:02:34,679 How it went from 11 to 1 to 12 to 0? 49 00:02:34,762 --> 00:02:37,303 Everybody was tired. 50 00:02:37,387 --> 00:02:39,011 I wanted to go home. 51 00:02:39,095 --> 00:02:41,220 And they were pissed. 52 00:02:42,011 --> 00:02:44,261 And they knew I was the one vote. 53 00:02:45,345 --> 00:02:46,512 And... 54 00:02:49,679 --> 00:02:52,011 I should have kept to my guns. 55 00:02:54,220 --> 00:02:55,345 But... 56 00:02:56,512 --> 00:03:00,136 yeah, I told them-- I said, 57 00:03:00,220 --> 00:03:01,261 "You want your conviction?" 58 00:03:01,345 --> 00:03:03,011 I said, "Here's your conviction. 59 00:03:03,095 --> 00:03:04,303 But this is on you all." 60 00:03:10,136 --> 00:03:13,387 [crying] 61 00:03:15,887 --> 00:03:17,220 Yes, I do. 62 00:03:23,345 --> 00:03:28,011 I would say yes, 63 00:03:28,095 --> 00:03:32,470 unless somebody can change my opinion on that. 64 00:03:32,553 --> 00:03:34,887 I don't-- I don't see it. 65 00:03:41,136 --> 00:03:43,261 Yes, the jury got this wrong. 66 00:03:50,637 --> 00:03:52,637 What if he gets sent back to prison? 67 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:53,929 I don't know. 68 00:04:00,387 --> 00:04:01,428 I don't know. 69 00:04:02,845 --> 00:04:12,887 ♪ theme music ♪ 70 00:04:12,970 --> 00:04:22,970 ♪ 71 00:04:23,053 --> 00:04:32,970 ♪ 72 00:04:33,053 --> 00:04:42,970 ♪ 73 00:04:43,053 --> 00:04:51,387 ♪ 74 00:04:54,595 --> 00:04:56,220 [female reporter] Breaking news: former high-school 75 00:04:56,303 --> 00:04:59,136 football star Greg Kelley out on bond. 76 00:04:59,220 --> 00:05:01,512 It's the first time he's seen freedom in three years. 77 00:05:01,595 --> 00:05:02,595 [male reporter] The 22-year-old was convicted 78 00:05:02,679 --> 00:05:04,595 of child sexual assault. 79 00:05:04,679 --> 00:05:07,637 Today the judge signed an order granting Kelley bond. 80 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,053 [male reporter] Tonight he's being taken 81 00:05:09,136 --> 00:05:11,595 to an undisclosed location, far away I'm told, 82 00:05:11,679 --> 00:05:14,345 outside of any public view. 83 00:05:18,303 --> 00:05:19,970 [Greg] I'm still dreaming. 84 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:21,387 I'm still dreaming right now. 85 00:05:21,470 --> 00:05:23,095 I kind of slept in a little bit. 86 00:05:23,178 --> 00:05:25,428 It feels great to be able to get up and- 87 00:05:25,512 --> 00:05:27,970 and, uh, make myself a cup of coffee 88 00:05:28,053 --> 00:05:31,095 and walk around a-a nice area. 89 00:05:31,178 --> 00:05:33,595 And it's like, I'm not in the nightmare any more. 90 00:05:33,679 --> 00:05:35,804 I do believe, uh, people need to be held accountable 91 00:05:35,887 --> 00:05:37,387 for their actions. 92 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:40,095 And I do believe that wrongs need to be made right. 93 00:05:40,553 --> 00:05:44,303 And we're going to do that in any way we can. 94 00:05:46,428 --> 00:05:48,679 I-I think I was just sad when he got out. 95 00:05:48,762 --> 00:05:52,011 I felt for the families who were reliving this, 96 00:05:52,095 --> 00:05:53,512 um, for the parents of these little boys 97 00:05:53,595 --> 00:05:55,512 who were now having to watch the news again 98 00:05:55,595 --> 00:05:57,512 with his face plastered everywhere. 99 00:05:57,595 --> 00:06:00,053 It seemed like all these wounds were getting reopened. 100 00:06:00,136 --> 00:06:03,053 So I kind of put myself in their shoes as their family, 101 00:06:03,136 --> 00:06:05,970 and for me it just seemed really hard when he got out. 102 00:06:06,053 --> 00:06:14,637 [dramatic music] 103 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,220 [David Anderson] Great opportunity tonight. 104 00:06:17,303 --> 00:06:18,720 [Greg Kelley] Yeah. 105 00:06:19,136 --> 00:06:21,136 [David] Do you want to go over some of that stuff 106 00:06:21,220 --> 00:06:22,178 and just try it and see--? - Yeah. 107 00:06:22,261 --> 00:06:24,220 [Greg] [clears throat] All right. 108 00:06:25,345 --> 00:06:26,261 Hello, thank you for having me here. 109 00:06:26,345 --> 00:06:28,053 My name is Gregory Kelley. 110 00:06:28,637 --> 00:06:31,387 I'm here for two things, accountability and truth-- 111 00:06:32,387 --> 00:06:35,178 accountability because the people that did this to me 112 00:06:35,261 --> 00:06:37,345 need to be held responsible, 113 00:06:37,428 --> 00:06:40,178 and truth because if the truth is never discovered, 114 00:06:40,261 --> 00:06:42,762 then the victim cannot receive justice. 115 00:06:42,845 --> 00:06:47,679 [dramatic music] 116 00:06:47,762 --> 00:06:50,804 Since being incarcerated, I have studied due process 117 00:06:50,887 --> 00:06:53,095 and the importance that it plays 118 00:06:53,178 --> 00:06:54,679 in our criminal justice system. 119 00:06:54,762 --> 00:06:59,637 [dramatic music] 120 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,387 Our justice system demands an accurate outcome. 121 00:07:02,929 --> 00:07:05,929 And whenever that is not achieved, 122 00:07:06,011 --> 00:07:08,512 we as citizens have an obligation to correct it. 123 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:12,553 [dramatic music] 124 00:07:12,637 --> 00:07:16,261 When I watched Sgt. Dailey sit on that stand 125 00:07:16,345 --> 00:07:18,720 and defend incompetence, 126 00:07:20,845 --> 00:07:24,470 I realized that my purpose isn't just to inspire people 127 00:07:25,387 --> 00:07:28,053 that have been treated unfairly 128 00:07:32,637 --> 00:07:35,553 but to be the catalyst for real change in this community. 129 00:07:37,637 --> 00:07:39,261 While I was incarcerated I received an outpouring 130 00:07:39,345 --> 00:07:41,553 of love from this community, 131 00:07:41,637 --> 00:07:44,804 and it grieved my spirit that the police chief, 132 00:07:44,887 --> 00:07:49,345 Sean Mannix, tried to label them as a cult 133 00:07:49,428 --> 00:07:52,178 just like how he tried to label me as a pedophile. 134 00:07:54,470 --> 00:07:56,595 I believe this is a toxic culture 135 00:07:56,679 --> 00:08:00,637 that excuses laziness and defends incompetence. 136 00:08:02,387 --> 00:08:06,929 But when Chief Mannix called this the best police work 137 00:08:07,011 --> 00:08:09,345 he had ever seen, 138 00:08:09,428 --> 00:08:11,762 it became clear that change is required 139 00:08:11,845 --> 00:08:16,011 because an organization can only be good as its leader. 140 00:08:19,428 --> 00:08:21,512 This was about winning 141 00:08:21,595 --> 00:08:25,637 and achieving a successful prosecution 142 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,762 at all costs 143 00:08:27,845 --> 00:08:30,512 and had very little to do with justice and truth. 144 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,762 I will extend you the benefit of the doubt 145 00:08:34,845 --> 00:08:38,345 that I was denied by the police department, 146 00:08:38,428 --> 00:08:40,553 but I expect immediate action please. 147 00:08:43,387 --> 00:08:44,887 Thank you very much; God bless you all. 148 00:08:44,970 --> 00:08:46,095 [male] Thank you, Mr. Kelley. 149 00:08:46,178 --> 00:08:47,387 Thank you. 150 00:08:49,887 --> 00:08:52,345 [female reporter] Cedar Park Police facing a review 151 00:08:52,428 --> 00:08:55,136 after criticism into how officers there handled 152 00:08:55,220 --> 00:08:57,762 the investigation that ultimately convicted Kelley 153 00:08:57,845 --> 00:08:59,470 of child sexual assault. 154 00:08:59,553 --> 00:09:02,178 Officials say the review will start as soon as possible, 155 00:09:02,261 --> 00:09:05,637 but it's unclear when the findings will be released. 156 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,136 Critics have said police did not fully investigate the case, 157 00:09:09,220 --> 00:09:11,303 including whether someone else may have 158 00:09:11,387 --> 00:09:13,053 committed the crime. 159 00:09:20,595 --> 00:09:24,553 To get, uh, Chief Mannix and, uh, 160 00:09:24,637 --> 00:09:26,178 Chris Dailey out of there. 161 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,679 [Sean] Well, you know, I don't wake up in the morning 162 00:09:29,762 --> 00:09:33,804 wondering, uh, who-who wants me in or out of my job. 163 00:09:33,887 --> 00:09:37,512 And, uh, so, you know, all those, uh, 164 00:09:37,595 --> 00:09:38,845 people shaking their fist and, you know, 165 00:09:38,929 --> 00:09:41,762 torches and pitchforks aren't something that I find 166 00:09:41,845 --> 00:09:44,220 intimidating or scary or anything else. 167 00:09:44,303 --> 00:09:47,303 It's part of my job, is, you know, some people are going 168 00:09:47,387 --> 00:09:49,345 to criticize you and some people are going to praise you. 169 00:09:49,428 --> 00:09:50,845 And some people just don't care. 170 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:56,762 Uh, we're going to play that by ear. 171 00:09:56,845 --> 00:09:58,553 We don't know what's to come in the future. 172 00:09:58,637 --> 00:10:00,929 Uh, we're playing it day by day right now. 173 00:10:01,929 --> 00:10:02,679 I've got a few dreams. 174 00:10:02,762 --> 00:10:03,887 I've got a few hopes. 175 00:10:03,970 --> 00:10:05,887 But, uh, that will come later. 176 00:10:06,637 --> 00:10:08,095 You know, I'm just going to enjoy freedom, 177 00:10:08,178 --> 00:10:09,470 be with my family, 178 00:10:09,553 --> 00:10:11,970 start preparing for my future, you know. 179 00:10:12,053 --> 00:10:13,303 I'll start preparing now. 180 00:10:13,387 --> 00:10:19,637 [dramatic music, rolling waves] 181 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,512 [Gaebri] I've stuck by Greg for the last four years, 182 00:10:22,595 --> 00:10:24,553 ever since the beginning, because I knew he was innocent. 183 00:10:24,637 --> 00:10:28,011 He's been my best friend since eighth grade and, uh, 184 00:10:28,095 --> 00:10:30,470 I'm completely in love with him. 185 00:10:31,428 --> 00:10:33,345 Even my friends, they'd be like, 186 00:10:33,428 --> 00:10:34,428 "Are you going to wait 25 years?" 187 00:10:34,512 --> 00:10:35,553 and my answer was always, "Yes." 188 00:10:35,637 --> 00:10:37,804 And they just thought that was insane. 189 00:10:37,887 --> 00:10:40,428 Yeah, it was him that actually said, 190 00:10:40,512 --> 00:10:42,053 "You don't have to stay with me. 191 00:10:42,136 --> 00:10:44,845 You don't have to stay with someone that's 192 00:10:44,929 --> 00:10:47,512 falsely accused in jail for 25 years." 193 00:10:47,595 --> 00:10:48,845 You know, that broke my heart 194 00:10:48,929 --> 00:10:52,637 that he could even think that I would break up with him. 195 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,887 No, I'm in this with you until the very end. 196 00:10:56,970 --> 00:10:58,595 I-I mean I felt more in love with him 197 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,428 whenever he was in prison. 198 00:11:00,512 --> 00:11:02,804 Any phone call we had, any visit we had, 199 00:11:02,887 --> 00:11:05,053 always reminded me why I'm so in love with him. 200 00:11:05,136 --> 00:11:08,345 And nothing can really shake that. 201 00:11:10,512 --> 00:11:11,970 It challenged us. 202 00:11:12,053 --> 00:11:15,512 I think any relationship that can overcome that obstacle 203 00:11:15,595 --> 00:11:17,512 is going to be a very strong, 204 00:11:17,595 --> 00:11:20,387 very, very strong relationship. 205 00:11:22,136 --> 00:11:23,679 [female reporter] Breaking news in the Greg Kelley case 206 00:11:23,762 --> 00:11:25,762 this afternoon, a judge in Williamson County has 207 00:11:25,845 --> 00:11:27,720 just ruled that he should be declared innocent 208 00:11:27,804 --> 00:11:30,720 in a child sexual assault that led to his conviction 209 00:11:30,804 --> 00:11:32,470 and 25-year prison sentence. 210 00:11:32,553 --> 00:11:34,053 [male reporter] Now, the ruling by State District Judge 211 00:11:34,136 --> 00:11:37,929 Donna King says, "The Court finds that the culmination of 212 00:11:38,011 --> 00:11:41,970 evidence supports Applicant's claim of actual innocence. 213 00:11:42,053 --> 00:11:45,387 He has met the burden and established he is actually 214 00:11:45,470 --> 00:11:49,261 innocent of the offense for which he was convicted." 215 00:11:49,345 --> 00:11:54,512 [dramatic music] 216 00:11:54,595 --> 00:11:56,679 In her ruling, Judge King said that his attorney 217 00:11:56,762 --> 00:11:59,804 in his first trial was ineffective. 218 00:12:02,970 --> 00:12:05,929 She also granted a Due Process claim saying that 219 00:12:06,011 --> 00:12:09,011 Kelley's rights were violated because of a botched 220 00:12:09,095 --> 00:12:12,053 Cedar Park Police investigation. 221 00:12:12,553 --> 00:12:17,512 She found that Greg Kelley was denied due process 222 00:12:17,595 --> 00:12:23,887 because of the bad faith and negligent police investigation 223 00:12:23,970 --> 00:12:25,512 that was conducted. 224 00:12:25,595 --> 00:12:26,970 You know, the judge did find bad faith 225 00:12:27,053 --> 00:12:29,387 on the part of the Cedar Park Police Department. 226 00:12:29,470 --> 00:12:33,595 The judge did find that their investigation was-was 227 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,387 reckless, reached sort of a reckless standard. 228 00:12:37,595 --> 00:12:42,095 This nonsense about this, uh, due process, uh, issue, 229 00:12:42,178 --> 00:12:43,762 uh, is-- 230 00:12:43,845 --> 00:12:46,845 it's a standard in law that doesn't exist. 231 00:12:46,929 --> 00:12:49,762 The way the system works is the police develop 232 00:12:49,845 --> 00:12:52,845 probable cause that a crime was committed. 233 00:12:52,929 --> 00:12:55,428 They then go to the District Attorney's Office 234 00:12:55,512 --> 00:12:58,136 and the District Attorney makes a charging decision. 235 00:12:58,220 --> 00:13:01,512 The District Attorney's Office brings it to a grand jury. 236 00:13:01,595 --> 00:13:04,345 The grand jury hands down the indictment. 237 00:13:04,428 --> 00:13:08,095 It then goes to trial, and a jury of 12 different people 238 00:13:08,178 --> 00:13:10,887 get to hear all elements of the case, 239 00:13:10,970 --> 00:13:14,720 including any criticism of the police report, 240 00:13:14,804 --> 00:13:17,053 and make their determination on guilt or innocence. 241 00:13:17,136 --> 00:13:20,220 And all of those things happened in this case. 242 00:13:20,303 --> 00:13:22,512 To look at that ruling today, 243 00:13:22,595 --> 00:13:28,553 you would think that this went to the probable cause part 244 00:13:28,637 --> 00:13:30,178 and conviction, 245 00:13:30,261 --> 00:13:31,887 that none of those other steps, you know, 246 00:13:31,970 --> 00:13:34,637 took place, which is just baloney. 247 00:13:34,929 --> 00:13:36,804 If the due process issue were to hold, 248 00:13:36,887 --> 00:13:40,595 it would be a horrific piece of case law 249 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,595 from the standpoint of basically 250 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,720 what it would be saying is that police officers 251 00:13:44,804 --> 00:13:47,970 now have to go beyond probable cause 252 00:13:48,053 --> 00:13:52,762 and rule out any possible, you know, person, uh, 253 00:13:52,845 --> 00:13:55,470 for every, you know, single crime. 254 00:13:55,553 --> 00:13:56,845 And that's just untenable. 255 00:13:56,929 --> 00:13:59,011 It's not something that's-that's realistic. 256 00:14:00,011 --> 00:14:02,470 Judge King's rulings will now go to the 257 00:14:02,553 --> 00:14:04,428 Texas Court of Criminal Appeals. 258 00:14:04,512 --> 00:14:07,136 That is the State's highest criminal court. 259 00:14:07,220 --> 00:14:10,095 Those nine judges will likely take months to rule, 260 00:14:10,178 --> 00:14:13,595 so we now know that this whole saga will likely be 261 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,804 well into next year before we see any kind of final outcome. 262 00:14:18,887 --> 00:14:22,011 I-it won't be over until the Court of Criminal Appeals 263 00:14:22,095 --> 00:14:25,720 issues its decision, which could literally take 264 00:14:25,804 --> 00:14:29,178 anywhere from a few months to another year. 265 00:14:31,970 --> 00:14:33,720 The Court of Criminal Appeals every Wednesday 266 00:14:33,804 --> 00:14:37,136 hands down decisions, and we call them hand-downs. 267 00:14:37,970 --> 00:14:40,470 It's not a defendant-friendly court. 268 00:14:40,553 --> 00:14:43,178 I don't know if there-- such a court actually exists, 269 00:14:43,261 --> 00:14:45,845 but it's not the Court of Criminal Appeals. 270 00:14:46,637 --> 00:14:48,929 The general population of Texas-- 271 00:14:49,011 --> 00:14:51,512 I-I don't think they know the court at all. 272 00:14:51,595 --> 00:14:54,595 I-I don't-- I think most people don't even know it exists. 273 00:14:56,929 --> 00:15:00,053 I think everybody that's on the Court of Criminal Appeals 274 00:15:00,136 --> 00:15:01,720 is a former prosecutor. 275 00:15:01,804 --> 00:15:04,637 And many of them, that's all they've ever done. 276 00:15:04,929 --> 00:15:07,970 All they did is spend a career looking for ways 277 00:15:08,053 --> 00:15:10,095 to uphold the conviction. 278 00:15:10,178 --> 00:15:14,679 Then they go from that to the Court of Criminal Appeals 279 00:15:14,762 --> 00:15:18,637 and, no surprise, they're looking for ways 280 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,804 to uphold the conviction. 281 00:15:19,887 --> 00:15:22,637 That is their world view. 282 00:15:23,303 --> 00:15:25,679 [Keith] The Court of Criminal Appeals has complete 283 00:15:25,762 --> 00:15:28,845 control over it and can-can issue a decision whenever. 284 00:15:28,929 --> 00:15:33,970 They ultimately can remand it for something else th-- 285 00:15:34,053 --> 00:15:36,762 in other words, send it back here for some hearing 286 00:15:36,845 --> 00:15:38,053 on some other issue. 287 00:15:38,136 --> 00:15:39,387 So they could do that. 288 00:15:39,470 --> 00:15:41,887 So something like an ineffective assistance of counsel 289 00:15:41,970 --> 00:15:44,261 newly discovered evidence-- all that-- 290 00:15:44,345 --> 00:15:46,345 all that the Court of Criminal Appeals would ultimately 291 00:15:46,428 --> 00:15:49,261 be deciding is you get to start over. 292 00:15:49,345 --> 00:15:51,929 You go back to court and we're going to start all over. 293 00:15:52,220 --> 00:15:54,053 An actual innocence claim is a little bit different. 294 00:15:54,136 --> 00:15:56,720 An actual innocence claim, the Court of Appeals is 295 00:15:56,804 --> 00:15:58,804 certifying that you are actually innocent, 296 00:15:58,887 --> 00:16:00,261 and the case ends there. 297 00:16:00,929 --> 00:16:01,929 And so-- 298 00:16:02,011 --> 00:16:03,387 Uh, that's very rare, 299 00:16:03,470 --> 00:16:04,679 very rare. 300 00:16:04,762 --> 00:16:08,970 Or, a horrible thing would be 301 00:16:09,053 --> 00:16:10,970 a one-page order: 302 00:16:12,178 --> 00:16:14,011 relief denied 303 00:16:14,095 --> 00:16:15,261 on all grounds. 304 00:16:16,887 --> 00:16:19,136 Which means he has to go back into prison. 305 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:23,095 For a defendant to be found actually innocent, 306 00:16:23,178 --> 00:16:27,804 he has to prove by clear and convincing evidence 307 00:16:27,887 --> 00:16:32,011 that-that he did not commit that offense. 308 00:16:32,095 --> 00:16:35,970 And that is a pretty high standard of proof, 309 00:16:36,053 --> 00:16:40,220 given that, at trial, the State had had to prove 310 00:16:40,303 --> 00:16:43,929 beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty. 311 00:16:44,970 --> 00:16:47,804 The CCA is the ultimate finder of fact. 312 00:16:47,887 --> 00:16:48,929 That's what it will tell you. 313 00:16:49,011 --> 00:16:50,178 It is the ultimate finder of fact. 314 00:16:50,261 --> 00:16:56,762 Even when the State, the defendant and the trial judge 315 00:16:56,845 --> 00:17:00,136 all agree about a particular resolution on habeas, 316 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:04,720 the Court of Criminal Appeals can ignore that and, um, 317 00:17:04,804 --> 00:17:06,303 go the other way. 318 00:17:06,387 --> 00:17:10,303 There are some terrible cases that do exist out there 319 00:17:10,387 --> 00:17:13,970 where people were released on bond and then they lost 320 00:17:14,053 --> 00:17:15,845 before the Court of Criminal Appeals. 321 00:17:15,929 --> 00:17:19,804 And they had to walk those people back into prison. 322 00:17:20,845 --> 00:17:24,679 And that is a scenario I do not even like to contemplate. 323 00:17:24,762 --> 00:17:28,053 But until the court grants him relief, 324 00:17:28,136 --> 00:17:29,929 exonerates him, 325 00:17:30,011 --> 00:17:31,428 that is a scenario. 326 00:17:31,512 --> 00:17:33,011 It exists. 327 00:17:33,428 --> 00:17:37,804 We dealt with claims of actual innocence often enough, 328 00:17:37,887 --> 00:17:42,929 but I think we only granted actual innocence claims-- 329 00:17:43,011 --> 00:17:44,178 my head is telling me three times. 330 00:17:44,261 --> 00:17:45,470 I would say under five times. 331 00:17:45,553 --> 00:17:48,220 It was a very, very rare occurrence. 332 00:17:49,637 --> 00:17:51,178 Seven and a half. 333 00:18:06,053 --> 00:18:08,261 I think if they find him innocent, 334 00:18:08,345 --> 00:18:10,220 I don't think it will change my mind, no. 335 00:18:13,762 --> 00:18:16,011 From the very beginning, I've just stood-- 336 00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:17,095 stayed with the kids. 337 00:18:17,178 --> 00:18:18,261 I believe those kids. 338 00:18:18,345 --> 00:18:19,845 I really don't think that they made it up. 339 00:18:19,929 --> 00:18:21,136 I really don't think that they were confused. 340 00:18:21,220 --> 00:18:23,011 I don't think they were coached. 341 00:18:23,095 --> 00:18:25,261 I think this was a-a very traumatic, pivotal moment in 342 00:18:25,345 --> 00:18:27,053 their lives where their innocence was stripped 343 00:18:27,136 --> 00:18:29,053 and that they went and told their parents. 344 00:18:29,136 --> 00:18:31,804 And I think the nightmare that happened after that was all 345 00:18:31,887 --> 00:18:33,512 just unfortunate, about how the case was handled 346 00:18:33,595 --> 00:18:34,887 and how it's gone forward. 347 00:18:34,970 --> 00:18:38,011 But I think I will always stand with them 348 00:18:38,095 --> 00:18:39,804 and that they were telling the truth. 349 00:18:46,345 --> 00:18:50,261 It's three minutes to nine and it's a Wednesday 350 00:18:50,345 --> 00:18:51,970 and every Wednesday the Court of Criminal Appeals 351 00:18:52,053 --> 00:18:57,345 hands down, uh, its decisions at 9:00. 352 00:18:58,095 --> 00:19:01,762 And we're waiting to see if Greg's, uh, 353 00:19:01,845 --> 00:19:04,178 writ has been decided. 354 00:19:05,595 --> 00:19:08,762 Uh, we've been doing this for like 20 times already, 355 00:19:08,845 --> 00:19:10,095 almost 20 times. 356 00:19:10,178 --> 00:19:13,011 And-and, uh, I haven't been on it yet. 357 00:19:13,095 --> 00:19:16,261 It all comes down to refreshing a page at 9:00 a.m. 358 00:19:16,345 --> 00:19:19,345 to see if I'm on it so I could be fully free. 359 00:19:22,387 --> 00:19:24,261 [Jake Brydon] I didn't realize how heavy it was getting on me 360 00:19:24,345 --> 00:19:26,929 until I started checking that dang Web site 361 00:19:27,011 --> 00:19:30,261 to see that four years' work is going to come down to a 362 00:19:30,345 --> 00:19:33,178 yes or no decision by nine people that we don't know. 363 00:19:33,261 --> 00:19:36,178 And we have no idea how-how into social media they are 364 00:19:36,261 --> 00:19:37,428 and if our-- 365 00:19:37,512 --> 00:19:40,345 and if our fighting has any effect on them at all. 366 00:19:41,512 --> 00:19:43,595 We just don't know if what we're doing is in vain 367 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:45,178 or is this helping Greg? 368 00:19:45,261 --> 00:19:49,136 Uh, God forbid that this be hurting Greg, you know. 369 00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:53,095 And-and just so a lot of that mental anxiety I guess is-is 370 00:19:53,178 --> 00:19:55,428 what I'd call it, just-- that has an accumulative effect on 371 00:19:55,512 --> 00:19:57,887 you when you know somebody's life hangs in the balance, 372 00:19:57,970 --> 00:19:58,887 for sure. 373 00:20:00,053 --> 00:20:01,887 All right, here we go. 374 00:20:05,762 --> 00:20:06,720 [Greg] Nine o'clock. 375 00:20:06,804 --> 00:20:08,136 Let's do it. 376 00:20:22,595 --> 00:20:25,095 And a whole bunch of denials. 377 00:20:25,178 --> 00:20:26,887 He's not on it. 378 00:20:27,887 --> 00:20:29,387 Dismissed. 379 00:20:31,220 --> 00:20:32,428 I don't see it. 380 00:20:33,095 --> 00:20:35,595 [scoffs] 381 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:36,929 Nothing. 382 00:20:39,595 --> 00:20:40,929 Well, 383 00:20:41,011 --> 00:20:42,595 no news is good news... 384 00:20:45,387 --> 00:20:46,387 I guess. 385 00:20:47,762 --> 00:20:51,720 [Greg] It means another week of doing the same thing. 386 00:20:52,095 --> 00:20:55,845 So next Wednesday, pull up this page, 387 00:20:55,929 --> 00:20:57,595 9:00 comes around... 388 00:20:59,178 --> 00:21:01,095 we're going to see if I'm on it. 389 00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:06,595 Probably ill-advised before flying is checking that website. 390 00:21:07,929 --> 00:21:09,303 It ticks you off. 391 00:21:12,637 --> 00:21:15,345 [traffic passing] 392 00:21:15,428 --> 00:21:17,387 [Greg] As the weeks go by, knowing what I have going 393 00:21:17,470 --> 00:21:20,970 in my life right now and kind of being out for a long time, 394 00:21:21,053 --> 00:21:24,011 I've been doing things that I want to-- 395 00:21:24,095 --> 00:21:25,345 I want to pursue in my career. 396 00:21:25,428 --> 00:21:27,595 And I-I simply just want to regain everything 397 00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:30,929 that was taken from me, that was stripped from me. 398 00:21:31,011 --> 00:21:32,720 And I can't get to it because I have this thing 399 00:21:32,804 --> 00:21:35,053 hanging over my head. 400 00:21:35,136 --> 00:21:38,804 It's never been as stressful than it is right now. 401 00:21:39,637 --> 00:21:42,387 After that you go and you switch your hand placement 402 00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:44,387 and go into curls, 403 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:46,095 to the eyeballs. 404 00:21:47,512 --> 00:21:48,679 Good job, Melissa. 405 00:21:53,095 --> 00:21:54,261 Somebody's calling me. 406 00:21:54,345 --> 00:21:55,095 Keith is. 407 00:21:55,178 --> 00:21:56,053 Keith's calling me right now. 408 00:21:56,136 --> 00:21:57,178 Hello? 409 00:21:58,845 --> 00:21:59,637 Hey, Keith. 410 00:22:02,095 --> 00:22:03,387 What's going on, man? 411 00:22:03,470 --> 00:22:07,512 [Keith] Hey, uh, look, uh, I just, uh-- 412 00:22:09,345 --> 00:22:10,428 Okay. 413 00:22:18,095 --> 00:22:19,470 Wow. Really? 414 00:23:04,512 --> 00:23:08,011 Uh, that's-- uh, that's-that's ter-- that's terrible, Keith. 415 00:23:09,428 --> 00:23:11,220 All right, have a good day. 416 00:23:11,303 --> 00:23:12,679 All right, bye. 417 00:23:14,261 --> 00:23:15,553 Can you believe that? 418 00:23:18,595 --> 00:23:19,553 Geez. 419 00:23:20,804 --> 00:23:22,720 At first, I-I couldn't believe it was Johnathan. 420 00:23:22,804 --> 00:23:25,428 And-and now... 421 00:23:26,679 --> 00:23:28,387 A man considered an alternative suspect 422 00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:30,637 in the sexual assault of a child case that landed 423 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,512 Greg Kelley in prison is facing new charges tonight, 424 00:23:34,595 --> 00:23:37,553 an alleged sexual assault of a 15-year-old girl. 425 00:23:37,637 --> 00:23:40,387 Uh, we have filed charges against Johnathan McCarty 426 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:44,011 for another sexual assault that came to our attention 427 00:23:44,095 --> 00:23:46,095 through this investigation. 428 00:23:47,428 --> 00:23:49,679 Right after Johnathan's name became public 429 00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:52,512 and was in the newspaper and on television, 430 00:23:52,595 --> 00:23:54,220 uh, really within a few days 431 00:23:54,303 --> 00:23:56,720 we started to receive a number of tips. 432 00:23:57,345 --> 00:24:01,095 Several young ladies came forward, uh, alleging that, 433 00:24:01,178 --> 00:24:03,637 um, there was some form of- 434 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,428 of sexual assault that had occurred. 435 00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:08,053 And we filed the one that occurred here 436 00:24:08,136 --> 00:24:09,637 in Williamson County. 437 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,053 We believe that he's com-- he's committed a crime 438 00:24:12,136 --> 00:24:13,387 and-and we intend to prove it. 439 00:24:13,470 --> 00:24:15,261 Now, in a statement a short time ago 440 00:24:15,345 --> 00:24:18,553 from McCarty's attorney, she said McCarty is innocent 441 00:24:18,637 --> 00:24:22,387 of the allegation and that he also steadfastly maintains 442 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:25,345 he's innocent in the Greg Kelley case. 443 00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:30,637 The investigation or-- let me s-- the lack 444 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,470 of investigation of McCarty in the beginning was bad enough. 445 00:24:34,762 --> 00:24:39,595 But given the three-year time frame between when Greg Kelley 446 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:44,637 goes to prison and when this hearing is held in 2017, 447 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,178 one of the suspects who should have been investigated 448 00:24:47,261 --> 00:24:49,261 in the first place is not in prison. 449 00:24:49,345 --> 00:24:50,804 He's not in jail. 450 00:24:50,887 --> 00:24:53,595 He's free the entire time and able to do whatever he wants. 451 00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:55,679 Not only you put the wrong person in jail, 452 00:24:55,762 --> 00:24:58,136 but you didn't put the one that deserved to be there 453 00:24:58,220 --> 00:24:59,720 that might be still doing it. 454 00:24:59,804 --> 00:25:02,679 Uh, Greg's life was-was hurt for four years. 455 00:25:02,762 --> 00:25:05,095 But that little boy, that's something he's going to 456 00:25:05,178 --> 00:25:06,470 have to live with the rest of his life, 457 00:25:06,553 --> 00:25:08,387 and knowing that you may have put-- 458 00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:10,261 not only put the wrong person but you have allowed 459 00:25:10,345 --> 00:25:12,762 this maybe to happen to somebody else? 460 00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:14,845 Again, those are just things that I would have 461 00:25:14,929 --> 00:25:16,553 a hard time sleeping with. 462 00:25:20,303 --> 00:25:21,637 [Greg] I never even thought that I would see the 463 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,178 inside of a prison cell. 464 00:25:25,178 --> 00:25:26,637 Sixteen years old, seventeen years old, 465 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,470 playing football and already having a scholarship 466 00:25:28,553 --> 00:25:32,804 to go play football, and then something just terrible 467 00:25:32,887 --> 00:25:36,470 happens to your life and your life just comes crashing down. 468 00:25:36,553 --> 00:25:39,011 I never thought that that would happen to me. 469 00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:41,845 You get put in that place, you know, like: 470 00:25:41,929 --> 00:25:45,387 'Did everything I do wrong ever amount to this?' 471 00:25:48,553 --> 00:25:49,804 Sometimes there's just answers out there that 472 00:25:49,887 --> 00:25:52,178 we're just not meant to find. 473 00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:56,178 All right? 474 00:25:56,261 --> 00:25:57,178 [Rosa] Yes. 475 00:25:57,261 --> 00:25:58,553 All right. 476 00:25:59,136 --> 00:26:00,345 Let's eat, then. 477 00:26:00,845 --> 00:26:02,804 All right Father God, thank you, Lord, for this food. 478 00:26:02,887 --> 00:26:05,470 And I just thank you for keeping my mother strong 479 00:26:05,553 --> 00:26:08,804 and increasing her faith, lifting her up, Father God. 480 00:26:08,887 --> 00:26:11,095 In your son's name, Jesus, amen. 481 00:26:11,178 --> 00:26:12,095 [Rosa] Amen. 482 00:26:12,178 --> 00:26:13,804 Amen. 483 00:26:13,887 --> 00:26:15,136 [Greg] It's going to be crazy because it's going to be 484 00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:16,595 the first birthday that I've-I've had since I went, 485 00:26:16,679 --> 00:26:18,011 you know, to prison. 486 00:26:18,095 --> 00:26:19,011 [Rosa] Yeah. 487 00:26:19,095 --> 00:26:20,845 So... 488 00:26:20,929 --> 00:26:23,512 this-this should have never happened in the first place. 489 00:26:23,595 --> 00:26:28,553 And now that you look at it from this side, um, 490 00:26:28,637 --> 00:26:30,178 I just wonder where my life would have been 491 00:26:30,261 --> 00:26:32,679 if I never went to prison, you know. 492 00:26:32,762 --> 00:26:37,887 My hope was to go play for the NFL and, um, 493 00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:40,345 that wasn't the plan for my life. 494 00:26:40,428 --> 00:26:41,553 [Rosa] Yes. 495 00:26:41,637 --> 00:26:44,387 [Greg] I could have quit and I could have-- 496 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:47,887 went in there and I could have just, whatever, gave up. 497 00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:48,887 [Rosa] Yeah. 498 00:26:48,970 --> 00:26:50,387 And look where I'm at. 499 00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:51,720 You know? 500 00:26:51,804 --> 00:26:54,220 I'm here, eating dinner with you, you know. 501 00:26:54,845 --> 00:26:57,303 I get to hop in my car and come see you, you know. 502 00:26:57,387 --> 00:26:58,595 I get to work. 503 00:26:58,679 --> 00:27:01,637 I get to live a life again, you know. 504 00:27:04,762 --> 00:27:06,220 [Greg] Yeah, we survived. 505 00:27:09,637 --> 00:27:11,178 And, you know, there was-- there was times, Mom, 506 00:27:11,261 --> 00:27:14,553 where, you know, it's-- it wasn't very easy, you know. 507 00:27:14,637 --> 00:27:16,720 Um, you know, when I-- when I would talk to you 508 00:27:16,804 --> 00:27:19,428 and the family on the phone I would-- 509 00:27:19,512 --> 00:27:21,762 I would make sure to conduct myself in a way 510 00:27:21,845 --> 00:27:26,929 that would give you guys a sense of peace, 511 00:27:27,011 --> 00:27:29,595 thinking that I was safe, believing I was safe, 512 00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:33,428 believing that-that-that there-- people in here 513 00:27:33,512 --> 00:27:34,804 that were supporting me and this and that. 514 00:27:34,887 --> 00:27:38,637 But the-the reality is, Mom, is that there were people in 515 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,679 there that hated me because of what I was in there for. 516 00:27:45,512 --> 00:27:49,261 There was times in there where people would call me out, 517 00:27:49,345 --> 00:27:52,470 you know, trying to see if I was tough or not. 518 00:27:52,553 --> 00:27:54,387 There were times in there where, um, 519 00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:55,804 I had to defend myself. 520 00:27:55,887 --> 00:27:58,595 Uh, I did what I had to do and I just pretty much 521 00:27:58,679 --> 00:28:00,804 just stopped the fight right there. 522 00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:03,637 Um, I thank God, by God's grace, that I was-- 523 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,970 I was never hurt badly, you know. 524 00:28:05,053 --> 00:28:06,637 I was-- I was never stabbed. 525 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,929 I was never-- and that does happen to people in there 526 00:28:10,011 --> 00:28:10,845 with my charge. 527 00:28:10,929 --> 00:28:12,720 That's the reality of it. 528 00:28:14,595 --> 00:28:16,679 [Greg] I don't want to ta-- I didn't-- I didn't want to 529 00:28:16,762 --> 00:28:18,553 talk to my family about it... - But-- 530 00:28:18,637 --> 00:28:19,720 [Greg] ...because it's stuff that-- 531 00:28:31,512 --> 00:28:32,553 [Greg] Mm-hmm. 532 00:29:03,261 --> 00:29:04,387 [Greg] Yeah. 533 00:29:16,929 --> 00:29:18,345 [Greg] Yeah, I'm going to get another plate. 534 00:29:23,595 --> 00:29:25,303 Okay? - Yes, Ma'am. 535 00:29:25,387 --> 00:29:26,637 [kiss smack] 536 00:29:27,887 --> 00:29:28,970 I'm going to get some of that dressing. 537 00:29:35,887 --> 00:29:37,970 Improvements ahead for Cedar Park Police. 538 00:29:38,053 --> 00:29:40,762 This comes one year after criticism about its handling 539 00:29:40,845 --> 00:29:43,553 of the Greg Kelley sexual assault investigation. 540 00:29:43,637 --> 00:29:45,845 In October, the City Council hired an outside company 541 00:29:45,929 --> 00:29:49,011 to start reviewing the department's practices. 542 00:29:49,095 --> 00:29:50,887 [female reporter] The consultants reviewed randomly 543 00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:53,929 chosen cases, went on ride-alongs with officers, 544 00:29:54,011 --> 00:29:57,720 and interviewed current and former employees. 545 00:29:57,804 --> 00:29:59,929 City Council ordered the police review following 546 00:30:00,011 --> 00:30:02,637 department criticism in the community. 547 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:05,804 I appreciate the opportunity 548 00:30:05,887 --> 00:30:07,178 to come before you and share some thoughts 549 00:30:07,261 --> 00:30:09,428 about what we learned during our assessment. 550 00:30:09,512 --> 00:30:12,637 There are definitely areas where there are blind spots 551 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,929 and weaknesses and red flags for things that could be 552 00:30:15,011 --> 00:30:17,428 done better at Cedar Park PD. 553 00:30:17,512 --> 00:30:20,053 Now, again, these are generalizations based upon 554 00:30:20,136 --> 00:30:23,637 looking at all 45 of those cases as a whole. 555 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,929 There were a number of those cases, to be quite candid, 556 00:30:26,011 --> 00:30:29,095 that you could use as textbook examples of how to do 557 00:30:29,178 --> 00:30:30,804 a criminal investigation. 558 00:30:30,887 --> 00:30:35,345 They had these two super cops that reviewed everything 559 00:30:35,428 --> 00:30:37,095 but the Greg Kelley case. 560 00:30:37,178 --> 00:30:39,637 I don't think they mentioned Greg Kelley's name one time. 561 00:30:40,011 --> 00:30:41,762 It's very clear to us that the Chief of Police 562 00:30:41,845 --> 00:30:43,970 has huge internal and external support for what 563 00:30:44,053 --> 00:30:46,136 he is trying to accomplish in terms of operational 564 00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:47,720 improvements. 565 00:30:47,804 --> 00:30:49,679 It's very clear that they're short-staffed there. 566 00:30:49,762 --> 00:30:52,553 You've got one sergeant and seven detectives in there 567 00:30:52,637 --> 00:30:56,136 that are handling approximately 1,600+ cases a year. 568 00:30:56,220 --> 00:30:58,720 The question is: do they have the time to do the thorough 569 00:30:58,804 --> 00:31:00,679 investigation they should and could be doing? 570 00:31:00,762 --> 00:31:02,970 [Jake] We had a pretty good idea that it was going to be 571 00:31:03,053 --> 00:31:07,470 a roundabout way to just kind of divert pressure. 572 00:31:07,553 --> 00:31:10,970 And it turns out that that's exactly what it was. 573 00:31:12,178 --> 00:31:16,887 We have, you know, open court testimony from multiple people 574 00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:22,178 that this in-investigation was grossly incompetent. 575 00:31:24,053 --> 00:31:28,428 To sit there and try to, in any way, justify that nonsense 576 00:31:28,512 --> 00:31:29,887 was infuriating. 577 00:31:29,970 --> 00:31:32,929 I've been part of this organization for 20 years. 578 00:31:33,011 --> 00:31:35,095 And-and I don't think this statement will-- 579 00:31:35,178 --> 00:31:38,220 has changed in 20 years, that public safety is a priority 580 00:31:38,303 --> 00:31:39,762 in our community. 581 00:31:39,845 --> 00:31:43,011 And I think we take that role very seriously. 582 00:31:43,095 --> 00:31:47,553 Um, I have-have confidence in Chief Mannix and-and his team 583 00:31:47,637 --> 00:31:50,679 that they will be able to-to implement those 584 00:31:50,762 --> 00:31:53,553 recommendations and the changes that are called for 585 00:31:53,637 --> 00:31:54,970 and-and necessary. 586 00:31:55,053 --> 00:31:57,345 And, Chief, I don't know if you have anything to 587 00:31:57,428 --> 00:32:01,053 add to that, but I think you do. 588 00:32:01,136 --> 00:32:03,011 [laughter] 589 00:32:03,095 --> 00:32:04,595 [Sean] Indeed I do. 590 00:32:05,929 --> 00:32:07,762 Thank you, City Manager, uh, Evans. 591 00:32:07,845 --> 00:32:10,679 I appreciate opp-- appreciate the opportunity to share my, 592 00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:12,887 uh, comments and thoughts with you tonight. 593 00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:15,178 The one thing you never hear from me, uh, is excuses 594 00:32:15,261 --> 00:32:17,053 because the good, the bad or the ugly, the buck st-- 595 00:32:17,136 --> 00:32:18,887 the buck stops here as it relates to the Cedar Park 596 00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:20,178 Police Department. 597 00:32:20,261 --> 00:32:22,887 Not only will the implementation of those, uh, 598 00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:25,762 recommendations, uh, you know, help modernize and make us 599 00:32:25,845 --> 00:32:28,136 a-a-a better department, but it'll make us an innovative, 600 00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:29,470 uh, department. 601 00:32:29,553 --> 00:32:32,220 We're-- we'll end up being a model to other agencies 602 00:32:32,303 --> 00:32:34,929 for having made, uh, this investment. 603 00:32:35,011 --> 00:32:36,136 I don't need a study to tell me what 604 00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:37,970 the citizens that live here were telling me, 605 00:32:38,053 --> 00:32:39,970 because I heard it from-- straight from their mouth. 606 00:32:40,053 --> 00:32:42,011 At the end of the day, it's all about trust. 607 00:32:42,095 --> 00:32:43,887 And one-one of the things I hope we can just do the 608 00:32:43,970 --> 00:32:45,929 whole time we're working on any of this, not just the police, 609 00:32:46,011 --> 00:32:48,011 is that we really learn how to do things that make us 610 00:32:48,095 --> 00:32:50,095 trust each other more 611 00:32:50,178 --> 00:32:53,345 and stop doing things that make us trust each other less. 612 00:32:53,428 --> 00:32:55,637 That's one thing that will make this city even greater, 613 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,053 you know, is-is-is that trust. 614 00:32:57,136 --> 00:33:00,095 I really appreciate everything everybody did on this. 615 00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:03,553 And, uh, man, it was a really positive experience. 616 00:33:03,637 --> 00:33:05,095 Thank you. 617 00:33:05,178 --> 00:33:08,011 As they were sitting there joking with each other 618 00:33:08,095 --> 00:33:11,720 and having a jolly old time, it was very clear that 619 00:33:11,804 --> 00:33:16,595 they felt like the public was dumb enough to buy it. 620 00:33:16,679 --> 00:33:19,428 The Cedar Park City Council is absolutely trying to 621 00:33:19,512 --> 00:33:21,804 sweep this under the rug. 622 00:33:22,345 --> 00:33:23,762 [Greg] I wish that they could just have a conviction 623 00:33:23,845 --> 00:33:27,303 in their heart to know what they did to a high-school kid. 624 00:33:28,512 --> 00:33:31,053 I believe it was totally incompetent and I-I know they 625 00:33:31,136 --> 00:33:32,887 knew what they were doing. 626 00:33:33,512 --> 00:33:35,428 But they simply didn't care. 627 00:33:36,095 --> 00:33:39,303 And to-- still to this day, I-I believe they don't care. 628 00:33:41,011 --> 00:33:43,136 No heads will roll. 629 00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:45,136 No. 630 00:33:46,804 --> 00:33:48,804 That's-that's the way it is. 631 00:33:49,512 --> 00:33:50,762 You're not going to win. 632 00:33:50,845 --> 00:33:53,637 You can't sue the police department and win. 633 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,679 You can't sue the prosecutors because they've got immunity. 634 00:33:56,762 --> 00:33:57,762 You can't sue the judges. 635 00:33:57,845 --> 00:34:01,011 They have even stronger immunity. 636 00:34:01,095 --> 00:34:02,011 So-- 637 00:34:04,011 --> 00:34:06,637 This is the recourse: get him exonerated. 638 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,553 And compensate him for the time we took away from him. 639 00:34:10,637 --> 00:34:14,095 [dog barking] 640 00:34:14,178 --> 00:34:16,011 These are cards that I couldn't change 641 00:34:16,095 --> 00:34:17,762 that were dealt to me in my life. 642 00:34:17,845 --> 00:34:18,845 I can't. 643 00:34:18,929 --> 00:34:21,011 You know, like it-it happened. 644 00:34:21,095 --> 00:34:24,637 So when something happens that you don't like, 645 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:26,178 what do you do then? 646 00:34:26,261 --> 00:34:28,095 Do you sit around complaining and kick circles? 647 00:34:28,178 --> 00:34:29,136 No, you don't do that. 648 00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:30,178 Most people do that. 649 00:34:30,261 --> 00:34:31,178 But I don't do that. 650 00:34:31,261 --> 00:34:32,387 I choose not to do that. 651 00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:34,220 I choose to take another road. 652 00:34:36,095 --> 00:34:40,220 And I had to do that every day, waking up, 653 00:34:40,303 --> 00:34:42,011 because I'm already waking up in a place that I don't want 654 00:34:42,095 --> 00:34:45,178 to be in that is completely depressing. 655 00:34:45,261 --> 00:34:50,011 Every day I wake up to these freaking bars. 656 00:34:52,345 --> 00:34:54,095 And, um... 657 00:34:56,178 --> 00:34:58,220 I just-- I just-- I had to ask myself: 658 00:34:58,303 --> 00:35:01,887 why can't I just wake up and go play football? 659 00:35:04,261 --> 00:35:05,887 But instead I had to see those bars. 660 00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:08,804 And if it's not anything, it's those bars that remind you 661 00:35:08,887 --> 00:35:11,220 that you're locked up every day. 662 00:35:12,804 --> 00:35:16,136 And those thoughts decide to-to-to dwell in. 663 00:35:18,887 --> 00:35:21,136 You know, I don't know where I'm going to be two or three 664 00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:23,804 years from now in my life, you know. 665 00:35:23,887 --> 00:35:26,053 I don't even know if I'm going to be exonerated yet. 666 00:35:26,136 --> 00:35:30,845 So I'm kind of just acting on faith a little bit, you know. 667 00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:33,595 I'm living every day, 668 00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:36,220 day for day, 669 00:35:36,303 --> 00:35:38,136 putting my trust in God 670 00:35:38,220 --> 00:35:40,220 and fighting for what I believe in. 671 00:35:40,303 --> 00:35:42,261 But as far as my freedom, 672 00:35:42,345 --> 00:35:43,470 I don't have freedom. 673 00:35:43,553 --> 00:35:44,762 You know? 674 00:35:44,845 --> 00:35:46,887 I don't have the freedom to start long-term goals. 675 00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:48,887 I don't have that, because I simply don't know where 676 00:35:48,970 --> 00:35:51,303 I'm going to be in six months. 677 00:35:57,345 --> 00:35:58,303 Mm-hmm. 678 00:36:05,011 --> 00:36:05,845 Running? 679 00:36:06,512 --> 00:36:08,095 No, not at all. 680 00:36:08,178 --> 00:36:12,261 I, uh, I've always believed that home is where 681 00:36:12,345 --> 00:36:13,929 my family's at. 682 00:36:14,011 --> 00:36:18,053 And if I ever thought about running, 683 00:36:18,136 --> 00:36:20,136 then that would mean that I'd be leaving my family, 684 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:22,011 all of my family. 685 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,178 If you run, it's kind of indicating that you're-you're 686 00:36:25,261 --> 00:36:27,762 afraid and you fear that you have-- 687 00:36:27,845 --> 00:36:29,553 you're going to go back. 688 00:36:29,637 --> 00:36:33,345 And I just continue to tell myself every day, you know: 689 00:36:33,428 --> 00:36:36,929 we've come this far and I've got to continue to have faith 690 00:36:37,011 --> 00:36:39,345 that this is all going to work out. 691 00:36:41,553 --> 00:36:46,136 [crosstalk and cheers] 692 00:36:50,387 --> 00:36:52,011 Ever since I got out of prison, 693 00:36:52,095 --> 00:36:55,095 I was just longing for an opportunity. 694 00:36:55,178 --> 00:36:57,387 I was waiting for something that I love, something that 695 00:36:57,470 --> 00:37:00,303 I have a passion for, to present itself to me. 696 00:37:01,887 --> 00:37:05,220 So it all started when my brother Aldo told me that, 697 00:37:05,303 --> 00:37:07,428 "Hey, man, there's a guy named Jeremy Hills. 698 00:37:07,512 --> 00:37:11,261 He trains the UT alumni guys and the NFL free agents. 699 00:37:11,345 --> 00:37:13,345 And, uh, he would like to meet you." 700 00:37:15,303 --> 00:37:16,679 My name is Jeremy Hills 701 00:37:16,762 --> 00:37:18,303 and I'm the Director of Sports Performance here at ONNIT. 702 00:37:18,387 --> 00:37:21,053 And, uh, for a living I get a chance to train with 703 00:37:21,136 --> 00:37:22,804 some of the best athletes in the world, 704 00:37:22,887 --> 00:37:24,428 um, professional athletes. 705 00:37:24,512 --> 00:37:27,512 We-we really have a combined group that we bring all 706 00:37:27,595 --> 00:37:29,011 throughout the NFL. 707 00:37:29,095 --> 00:37:31,220 We've got the NFL, NBA, MLB, 708 00:37:31,303 --> 00:37:33,178 just pro athletes all the way across. 709 00:37:33,261 --> 00:37:35,095 And, uh, they come here and they trust us 710 00:37:35,178 --> 00:37:36,553 to help them get better. 711 00:37:36,637 --> 00:37:38,345 Two, two, one, one. 712 00:37:38,428 --> 00:37:40,345 Greg's brother was telling me that, you know-- 713 00:37:40,428 --> 00:37:43,095 about his situation and about him before this whole 714 00:37:43,178 --> 00:37:44,428 ordeal happened, 715 00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:45,929 how he was a big-time high-school football player. 716 00:37:46,011 --> 00:37:48,553 And, you know, everybody's always bragging on: 717 00:37:48,637 --> 00:37:50,512 yeah, I got this nephew or I got this cousin or whatever. 718 00:37:50,595 --> 00:37:52,553 But when I-- when I-- when I seen him I was like, well, 719 00:37:52,637 --> 00:37:53,553 damn, he looks good. 720 00:37:53,637 --> 00:37:54,387 You know what? 721 00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:55,387 Come by the facility. 722 00:37:55,470 --> 00:37:57,136 Let's-let's just see. 723 00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:04,220 And, uh, then he asked me the question 724 00:38:04,303 --> 00:38:07,637 if I wanted to ever play football again. 725 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:11,637 It's a question I've been waiting for for a long time. 726 00:38:12,428 --> 00:38:14,720 You know, I've always had a dream of playing for 727 00:38:14,804 --> 00:38:16,220 University of Texas. 728 00:38:16,303 --> 00:38:19,595 I told him I would really hope and I would really appreciate 729 00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:22,303 if I could run out on field as a Longhorn. 730 00:38:23,261 --> 00:38:24,428 That is the plan. 731 00:38:24,512 --> 00:38:27,011 I thought that was a-a bit bold, you know, 732 00:38:27,095 --> 00:38:29,470 to say the least, like you can just walk on at UT. 733 00:38:29,553 --> 00:38:30,720 I played at UT. 734 00:38:30,804 --> 00:38:33,220 So, uh, I seen the talent that was kind of 735 00:38:33,303 --> 00:38:35,345 expected to be there. 736 00:38:38,345 --> 00:38:41,053 I haven't touched a field in four years, 737 00:38:41,136 --> 00:38:42,345 you know. 738 00:38:42,428 --> 00:38:47,220 And I have-- I haven't done anything that 739 00:38:47,303 --> 00:38:49,011 had anything to do with football, 740 00:38:49,095 --> 00:38:51,512 drills and training, in four years. 741 00:38:51,595 --> 00:38:53,345 Like I'm over here, like nervous. 742 00:38:53,428 --> 00:38:55,470 Like I don't want to make a fool of myself. 743 00:38:55,553 --> 00:39:00,637 [crosstalk] 744 00:39:10,261 --> 00:39:14,095 [low dramatic music] 745 00:39:14,178 --> 00:39:14,970 [Greg] I pray about it. 746 00:39:15,053 --> 00:39:16,470 I'm like: you know what? 747 00:39:16,553 --> 00:39:19,261 I'm going to show up and just-just show them my heart. 748 00:39:19,345 --> 00:39:23,178 I might not be the best one there but, uh, 749 00:39:23,261 --> 00:39:25,637 these guys are not going to outwork me today. 750 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:28,053 So then I gave him the opportunity to back it up. 751 00:39:28,136 --> 00:39:30,470 A couple of-- couple of NFL talent guys in there are 752 00:39:30,553 --> 00:39:32,011 working and getting better. 753 00:39:32,095 --> 00:39:34,595 And-and, shoot, I'll throw Greg right in the mix with them. 754 00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:35,762 I-I'm-I'm not holding back. 755 00:39:35,845 --> 00:39:37,428 It's like: you want to play at this level, 756 00:39:37,512 --> 00:39:39,553 then you need to learn how to work, how they work. 757 00:39:41,387 --> 00:39:44,720 It only takes maybe-maybe an hour, not even a day, 758 00:39:44,804 --> 00:39:47,136 maybe an hour, before you realize: 759 00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:49,637 oh, shit, I'm not ready for this. 760 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:51,053 [crosstalk] 761 00:39:51,136 --> 00:39:52,345 Guys, let's go. 762 00:39:53,095 --> 00:39:54,095 All right, guys, ready? 763 00:39:55,053 --> 00:39:57,553 Three, two, one, here we go! 764 00:39:57,637 --> 00:40:06,011 [treadmill noise] 765 00:40:06,095 --> 00:40:10,595 [low inspirational music] 766 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:12,387 [Jeremy] And it punched him in the stomach the first time. 767 00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:14,136 The very first time he showed up I could tell 768 00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:15,387 it was different. 769 00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:16,637 Then he showed up the next day. 770 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,220 Then he showed up early the third day. 771 00:40:18,303 --> 00:40:20,178 He's been early every day since. 772 00:40:20,261 --> 00:40:21,220 And now here he is. 773 00:40:21,303 --> 00:40:22,637 You look at them, you look at him: 774 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:23,679 you tell me the difference. 775 00:40:23,762 --> 00:40:34,387 [low inspirational music] 776 00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:35,387 [trainer] Let's go. 777 00:40:35,470 --> 00:40:37,178 One more, one more. 778 00:40:37,261 --> 00:40:39,220 Let's go, let's go. 779 00:40:39,303 --> 00:40:40,053 Here we go. 780 00:40:40,136 --> 00:40:41,345 Nice work. 781 00:40:41,428 --> 00:40:42,553 [Greg] Watch out, it's coming down. 782 00:40:42,637 --> 00:40:44,220 [MJ] Yes, sir. 783 00:40:44,970 --> 00:40:46,261 Good work. 784 00:40:46,553 --> 00:40:47,512 I think he's right on track, I mean, 785 00:40:47,595 --> 00:40:48,679 especially with his story. 786 00:40:48,762 --> 00:40:51,095 Uh, you see him today, you know. 787 00:40:51,178 --> 00:40:54,470 He's keeping up with everybody, lifting the same weight as I am. 788 00:40:54,553 --> 00:40:57,428 And I'm a tight end and he's a DB, so that's very, very 789 00:40:57,512 --> 00:40:59,345 impressive on his end. 790 00:40:59,428 --> 00:41:01,637 That just tells me I need to pick it up a notch. 791 00:41:03,470 --> 00:41:05,637 [Greg] You know, this opportunity is literally an 792 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,303 opportunity of a lifetime for me right now. 793 00:41:08,387 --> 00:41:09,845 I'm not getting younger. 794 00:41:09,929 --> 00:41:11,637 I'm 23 years old. 795 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:14,303 I have to take advantage of every little thing that I get. 796 00:41:14,387 --> 00:41:18,136 And I have to literally work my butt off again 797 00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:20,637 to get what I love. 798 00:41:21,887 --> 00:41:23,762 Right now for him to realistically have a chance 799 00:41:23,845 --> 00:41:26,261 to walk onto UT, I mean first he'd have-- 800 00:41:26,345 --> 00:41:28,428 he will have to be fully exonerated. 801 00:41:28,512 --> 00:41:31,136 And then once that process is done, then he'll have to be 802 00:41:31,220 --> 00:41:33,470 able to be admitted to the university 803 00:41:33,553 --> 00:41:35,595 and then get the opportunity to go try out 804 00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:37,470 for the walk-on squad. 805 00:41:37,553 --> 00:41:40,679 I think everything outside of trying out 806 00:41:40,762 --> 00:41:43,679 for the walk-on squad, that's the tough part. 807 00:41:43,762 --> 00:41:46,804 When it comes to him actually getting to those tryouts, 808 00:41:46,887 --> 00:41:48,637 I'm betting all my money on it. 809 00:41:50,762 --> 00:41:51,887 [Greg] Now I'm just waiting to get exonerated 810 00:41:51,970 --> 00:41:54,762 so I can just put these wheels into motion. 811 00:41:55,470 --> 00:41:57,887 I would really be grateful for anything, 812 00:41:57,970 --> 00:42:00,804 that I could just play the f-- game of football again. 813 00:42:00,887 --> 00:42:11,804 [soft dramatic music] 814 00:42:11,887 --> 00:42:13,428 After this first happened to me, you kind of just lose 815 00:42:13,512 --> 00:42:15,178 trust in the judicial system. 816 00:42:15,261 --> 00:42:17,136 And you lose trust in law enforcement. 817 00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:20,470 And it's like you ask this question again like: 818 00:42:20,553 --> 00:42:21,804 can this happen again? 819 00:42:21,887 --> 00:42:23,261 You know? 820 00:42:23,345 --> 00:42:25,512 Like is there something going on behind the scenes that 821 00:42:25,595 --> 00:42:28,261 I don't know about and my family and my supporters 822 00:42:28,345 --> 00:42:30,220 and my fighters don't know about? 823 00:42:30,303 --> 00:42:31,887 Is it political? 824 00:42:31,970 --> 00:42:33,345 You know? 825 00:42:33,428 --> 00:42:35,553 And somebody's-- somebody had their hand in this, you know? 826 00:42:35,637 --> 00:42:37,637 And that's what I fear the most, is that if somebody 827 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:41,428 has their hand in this and somebody does something 828 00:42:41,512 --> 00:42:45,762 totally unethical that I go back because of that. 829 00:42:47,011 --> 00:42:49,512 [Shawn] Before Greg Kelley was released from jail, 830 00:42:49,595 --> 00:42:51,011 uh, Ranger Mitchell did have, 831 00:42:51,095 --> 00:42:54,345 um-- he requested some search warrants. 832 00:42:54,428 --> 00:42:56,261 So it was only after the search warrants became public 833 00:42:56,345 --> 00:42:58,595 that I saw the allegations. 834 00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:01,428 I was blindsided, as we all were, 835 00:43:01,512 --> 00:43:04,512 uh, when the ranger filed that search warrant. 836 00:43:04,595 --> 00:43:06,929 It made a big splash in the news. 837 00:43:07,011 --> 00:43:08,762 [male reporter] New evidence is emerging, broadening the 838 00:43:08,845 --> 00:43:10,470 lens around Greg Kelley. 839 00:43:10,553 --> 00:43:11,762 [female reporter] Now we are learning new information 840 00:43:11,845 --> 00:43:14,762 from the Texas Ranger's investigation that keeps... 841 00:43:14,845 --> 00:43:16,512 [male reporter] The search warrants paint a darker 842 00:43:16,595 --> 00:43:19,512 picture of Kelley, revealing evidence taken from his 843 00:43:19,595 --> 00:43:21,595 cell phone and his computer. 844 00:43:22,261 --> 00:43:26,220 [Keith] The search warrant affidavit is a 180 from what 845 00:43:26,303 --> 00:43:29,553 this ranger, uh, testified to. 846 00:43:29,637 --> 00:43:33,845 I would be scared to death to think that 847 00:43:33,929 --> 00:43:36,553 I could be-- end up in the same position with no evidence 848 00:43:36,637 --> 00:43:38,970 whatsoever and no investigation done 849 00:43:39,053 --> 00:43:43,553 and be convicted of something that I may or may not have done. 850 00:43:43,637 --> 00:43:47,762 [Keith] He's practically exonerating Greg. 851 00:43:47,845 --> 00:43:52,679 And then just two weeks later, this guy is a secret monster. 852 00:43:52,762 --> 00:43:54,762 It was just very shocking. 853 00:43:54,845 --> 00:43:56,887 [male reporter] Greg Kelley, according to the warrant, 854 00:43:56,970 --> 00:43:59,970 spent hours alone with children at the daycare 855 00:44:00,053 --> 00:44:01,512 where he lived. 856 00:44:01,595 --> 00:44:03,303 [female reporter] Rangers say Kelley's pattern of viewing 857 00:44:03,387 --> 00:44:05,512 pornography became suspicious. 858 00:44:05,595 --> 00:44:07,345 [male reporter] He engaged in what the warrants called 859 00:44:07,428 --> 00:44:11,178 high-risk sexual behavior by meeting other people through 860 00:44:11,261 --> 00:44:16,470 a website that connects adults looking for sexual activity. 861 00:44:16,553 --> 00:44:19,595 I, along with everybody else, 862 00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:23,679 took a big step back and-and thought: 863 00:44:23,762 --> 00:44:27,762 wow, maybe we really didn't know him after all. 864 00:44:27,845 --> 00:44:28,804 My God. 865 00:44:28,887 --> 00:44:30,804 We were done with the writ hearing. 866 00:44:30,887 --> 00:44:35,679 We had all the information we needed to, um, 867 00:44:35,762 --> 00:44:38,720 figure out the answers on the defendant's writ. 868 00:44:38,804 --> 00:44:40,762 And I think what Ranger Mitchell was doing as a 869 00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:43,804 secondary investigation was trying to go back 870 00:44:43,887 --> 00:44:45,970 and see if he could solve the crime. 871 00:44:46,053 --> 00:44:47,637 [Keith] And what this ranger did was he first tried 872 00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:50,845 to get the judge to sign the search warrant 873 00:44:50,929 --> 00:44:52,553 based on this affidavit. 874 00:44:52,637 --> 00:44:54,637 She said, "You need to run it by Shawn," 875 00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:55,804 which he hadn't. 876 00:44:55,887 --> 00:45:00,428 So he finds Shawn and downplays it with him. 877 00:45:00,512 --> 00:45:02,303 The way it was presented to me was that these 878 00:45:02,387 --> 00:45:04,512 were just sort of routine run-of-the-mill search warrants, 879 00:45:04,595 --> 00:45:08,720 that he was, uh, looking for information regarding, 880 00:45:08,804 --> 00:45:11,679 you know, Greg's phone, Johnathan's phone. 881 00:45:11,762 --> 00:45:13,720 And so it was presented to me in a-- in a way that 882 00:45:13,804 --> 00:45:15,804 made it seem like it was very innocuous. 883 00:45:15,887 --> 00:45:18,845 He says, "Oh, ok-- you just want to do some more searches? 884 00:45:18,929 --> 00:45:19,637 Sure. 885 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:21,345 That's fine with me." 886 00:45:21,428 --> 00:45:24,845 And so she-- he goes back and she gets-- 887 00:45:24,929 --> 00:45:28,387 and lends the judge the impression that he's 888 00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:30,345 down with all of it. 889 00:45:30,428 --> 00:45:32,095 So she's like, "Okay." 890 00:45:32,178 --> 00:45:33,303 So she signs it. 891 00:45:33,387 --> 00:45:35,512 I found out from the media the next day, um, 892 00:45:35,595 --> 00:45:37,428 that Ranger Mitchell had filed some search warrants that 893 00:45:37,512 --> 00:45:40,512 had a lot of information in it. 894 00:45:42,637 --> 00:45:45,095 By making those kinds of details public 895 00:45:45,178 --> 00:45:47,720 and by putting it forward in an affidavit, 896 00:45:47,804 --> 00:45:49,762 you're-you're trying to sway public opinion 897 00:45:49,845 --> 00:45:51,679 one way or the other. 898 00:45:51,762 --> 00:45:54,970 And I was disappointed that-that we chose the-- 899 00:45:55,053 --> 00:45:59,720 we-- the-the ranger chose to, um-- 900 00:45:59,804 --> 00:46:00,970 the timing of-of the search warrant. 901 00:46:01,053 --> 00:46:03,428 Certainly, we had that information earlier. 902 00:46:03,512 --> 00:46:04,845 He could have requested that search warrant earlier, 903 00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:06,845 before the hearing. 904 00:46:07,804 --> 00:46:10,970 [Keith] "My belief is based on the following facts." 905 00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:17,053 And-and he'd list what he claims are facts. 906 00:46:18,136 --> 00:46:22,553 "I, Cody Mitchell, hereafter referred to as the Affiant, 907 00:46:22,637 --> 00:46:25,512 a peace officer employed by the Texas Department 908 00:46:25,595 --> 00:46:28,595 of Public Safety, Texas Rangers Division, 909 00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:31,929 do solemnly swear that I have reason to believe 910 00:46:32,011 --> 00:46:34,720 and do believe that electronic customer data 911 00:46:34,804 --> 00:46:38,011 held in storage by Adult Friend Finder 912 00:46:38,095 --> 00:46:42,512 constitutes evidence of the offense of aggravated 913 00:46:42,595 --> 00:46:44,929 sexual assault of a child." 914 00:46:47,553 --> 00:46:49,261 Adult Friend Finder. 915 00:46:49,345 --> 00:46:50,595 Well, I investigated. 916 00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:53,136 I went to Adult Friend Finder [laughs]. 917 00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:59,970 I checked using the ranger's own handles that he says here. 918 00:47:00,387 --> 00:47:06,679 The third one is Greg, G-R-E-G, 919 00:47:06,762 --> 00:47:08,470 R as in Raymond, 920 00:47:08,553 --> 00:47:11,720 Kelley, K-E-L-L-E-Y, 921 00:47:11,804 --> 00:47:12,929 and the number 3. 922 00:47:13,011 --> 00:47:14,887 So Greg R-- 923 00:47:14,970 --> 00:47:16,095 Yes sir. 924 00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:26,303 I had them go through their database for all four. 925 00:47:27,053 --> 00:47:32,804 They reported back to me both verbally and in writing 926 00:47:32,887 --> 00:47:35,929 they have no such records. 927 00:47:36,011 --> 00:47:40,970 He was not ever a member of Adult Friend Finder. 928 00:47:42,178 --> 00:47:44,720 [Greg] I remember one time, man, where he started 929 00:47:44,804 --> 00:47:47,470 talking about my phone history. 930 00:47:47,553 --> 00:47:52,804 And he started talking about Adult Friend Finder to me. 931 00:47:52,887 --> 00:47:55,845 And I was like, "Man, I've never been on that website. 932 00:47:55,929 --> 00:47:56,929 I've never been on that website. 933 00:47:57,011 --> 00:47:58,470 I've never used it." 934 00:47:58,553 --> 00:48:01,845 He starts getting very, very angry like-like-- 935 00:48:01,929 --> 00:48:03,679 because he's not-- he-he's not-- 936 00:48:03,762 --> 00:48:05,845 he's not getting out of me what he wants. 937 00:48:05,929 --> 00:48:08,136 And he says, "You know what, Greg?" 938 00:48:08,387 --> 00:48:10,595 And then he told me this, and I've told you this before. 939 00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:12,637 He said, "You know, the higher you can get, Greg, 940 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,053 the harder you're going to fall." 941 00:48:14,136 --> 00:48:15,845 That's what he said. 942 00:48:15,929 --> 00:48:18,470 And I'm like: what does that even mean? 943 00:48:18,553 --> 00:48:19,553 You know? 944 00:48:19,637 --> 00:48:21,303 What are you trying to imply? 945 00:48:22,095 --> 00:48:26,887 That's-- to me it's like all this is going in my favor, 946 00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:28,720 the truth is finally coming out, 947 00:48:28,804 --> 00:48:31,303 he's not liking it, 948 00:48:31,387 --> 00:48:33,845 he's trying to ride the fence, 949 00:48:33,929 --> 00:48:36,679 and it seems like the higher I'm getting, 950 00:48:36,762 --> 00:48:39,804 he's going to find something to smash me into the ground. 951 00:48:40,095 --> 00:48:41,595 [male reporter] According to the warrant, 952 00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:44,637 there is discussion that Greg Kelley in fact had a 953 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,178 photograph of himself with this young boy, 954 00:48:47,261 --> 00:48:50,345 this four-year-old boy that he was later convicted 955 00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:52,970 of-of sexually molesting. 956 00:48:54,011 --> 00:48:57,053 There is a photo. 957 00:48:57,136 --> 00:49:01,595 The only selfie is the one with him and Gaebri 958 00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:03,679 and not CV1. 959 00:49:03,762 --> 00:49:05,845 It's a different child. 960 00:49:05,929 --> 00:49:08,136 [Greg] Who initiated the selfie? 961 00:49:10,804 --> 00:49:14,595 So it was just like-- and take a picture all of us. 962 00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:17,887 And I remember Parker is just smiling just huge. 963 00:49:17,970 --> 00:49:19,136 Yeah. 964 00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:21,804 [Greg] Yeah. 965 00:49:24,804 --> 00:49:26,303 It's the only one I can think of. 966 00:49:26,387 --> 00:49:27,887 It's the only one. 967 00:49:27,970 --> 00:49:29,929 Why would I take a picture with a kid? 968 00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:33,887 [Keith] "The Affiant believes to a high degree of probability 969 00:49:34,011 --> 00:49:37,679 that during the 2013 to 2014 time period, 970 00:49:37,762 --> 00:49:41,804 Kelley was displaying undeniable indicators 971 00:49:41,887 --> 00:49:45,887 of being a sexually motivated high-risk threat 972 00:49:45,970 --> 00:49:49,011 and was in need of help and guidance 973 00:49:49,095 --> 00:49:53,387 to understand his feelings and control his urges." 974 00:49:53,887 --> 00:49:58,095 I assure you no cop has ever written a paragraph 975 00:49:58,178 --> 00:50:00,720 like this to get a search warrant. 976 00:50:00,804 --> 00:50:03,261 Dr. Freud here has appeared: 977 00:50:03,345 --> 00:50:05,428 Greg looked at porn sites-- 978 00:50:05,512 --> 00:50:07,136 probably a child molester. 979 00:50:07,220 --> 00:50:11,095 Well, there-there are millions of American males 980 00:50:11,178 --> 00:50:15,720 who are not child molesters but they've looked at naked women. 981 00:50:19,053 --> 00:50:20,345 I think that was whenever-- that was-- 982 00:50:20,428 --> 00:50:21,887 that was during the polygraph. 983 00:50:22,428 --> 00:50:23,720 That was the polygraph day. 984 00:50:30,804 --> 00:50:36,345 [crosstalk] 985 00:50:39,762 --> 00:50:40,970 [officer] Y'all need anything? 986 00:50:41,595 --> 00:50:43,136 Do you need to go to the bathroom or anything? 987 00:50:43,220 --> 00:50:44,720 [Cody] No, I'm fine right now. 988 00:50:50,970 --> 00:50:54,220 Yeah, I've passed every question but one. 989 00:50:55,387 --> 00:50:58,887 Yeah, if I stuck my-my penis in the kid's mouth. 990 00:50:59,345 --> 00:51:02,053 There was, um, based on the report from-from 991 00:51:02,136 --> 00:51:05,178 Ranger Mitchell, uh, there was a polygraph given where there 992 00:51:05,261 --> 00:51:07,345 was some deception indicated. 993 00:51:07,428 --> 00:51:09,303 It does complicate things, because I think in the court 994 00:51:09,387 --> 00:51:12,178 of public opinion, polygraphs carry a lot of weight. 995 00:51:12,261 --> 00:51:15,720 Polygraphs are not really used in prosecution 996 00:51:15,804 --> 00:51:18,178 to discover the truth. 997 00:51:18,261 --> 00:51:21,053 They're-they're a tool, an investigative tool, 998 00:51:21,136 --> 00:51:24,095 that's used to see if you can get, um, someone in an 999 00:51:24,178 --> 00:51:26,720 interview to change their story 1000 00:51:26,804 --> 00:51:29,011 or give you more details of their story. 1001 00:51:29,095 --> 00:51:30,762 Do I get angry when I talk about it? 1002 00:51:30,845 --> 00:51:33,220 Yes, I do, because I have to keep on talking. 1003 00:51:33,303 --> 00:51:35,887 I have to explain, when all I want to do is get on a 1004 00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:38,387 mountain, shout that I'm-- I didn't do it. 1005 00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:39,387 [Cody] Yeah. 1006 00:51:39,470 --> 00:51:40,220 You know? 1007 00:51:40,303 --> 00:51:41,553 That's not enough. 1008 00:51:41,637 --> 00:51:42,553 You know? 1009 00:51:42,637 --> 00:51:43,887 Um... 1010 00:51:46,970 --> 00:51:47,845 yeah. 1011 00:51:48,637 --> 00:51:51,303 [Cody] I want to say that's where [unintelligible]. 1012 00:51:53,387 --> 00:51:57,095 It just makes me angry, man, when-when, uh, 1013 00:51:58,637 --> 00:52:00,303 when I get told-- when I get told-- 1014 00:52:00,387 --> 00:52:03,929 when I get asked over and over again if I did this, 1015 00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:06,762 I don't want to answer anymore. 1016 00:52:06,845 --> 00:52:09,220 I'm sick and tired of it. 1017 00:52:11,887 --> 00:52:13,261 I've got to do it, though. 1018 00:52:14,053 --> 00:52:16,095 [Keith] He was there for hours. 1019 00:52:16,178 --> 00:52:18,220 I don't really remember how-how long, 1020 00:52:18,303 --> 00:52:20,845 but it was a long time. 1021 00:53:05,053 --> 00:53:06,220 Ranger, I'm-I'm angry. 1022 00:53:06,303 --> 00:53:08,637 I'm-I'm tired. 1023 00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:09,470 I'm cold. 1024 00:53:12,053 --> 00:53:12,929 I mean I didn't eat. 1025 00:53:13,011 --> 00:53:14,428 I don't-- I don't know what the-- 1026 00:53:14,512 --> 00:53:16,095 what the explanation is here. 1027 00:53:16,178 --> 00:53:17,470 [Cody] I know. 1028 00:53:17,553 --> 00:53:20,178 And I don't-- I don't know why this is happening to me. 1029 00:53:20,261 --> 00:53:23,762 I texted the ranger: "Shut this down now," 1030 00:53:23,845 --> 00:53:24,929 you know. 1031 00:53:25,011 --> 00:53:26,929 It-it was an in-your-face message. 1032 00:53:27,011 --> 00:53:28,345 And he wasn't. 1033 00:53:28,428 --> 00:53:32,011 And so I got a hold of the Sheriff and they shut it down. 1034 00:53:32,095 --> 00:53:33,595 And I'm very glad I did. 1035 00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:36,136 I'm sorry Greg had to go through that. 1036 00:53:52,095 --> 00:53:54,261 [Shawn] And then, uh, you know, Keith Hampton, 1037 00:53:54,345 --> 00:53:56,679 the defense lawyer for-for Greg Kelley, 1038 00:53:56,762 --> 00:53:58,512 has his own polygraph done. 1039 00:53:58,595 --> 00:54:01,136 Greg passed my polygraph. 1040 00:54:01,220 --> 00:54:06,512 My guy taught the guy, the ranger had administered it. 1041 00:54:06,595 --> 00:54:09,345 Polygraphs are not admissible in a court of law, 1042 00:54:09,428 --> 00:54:12,512 um, in-in any-- in any jurisdiction I'm aware of 1043 00:54:12,595 --> 00:54:14,345 in Texas, for sure. 1044 00:54:14,428 --> 00:54:17,011 And there's a reason they're not admissible. 1045 00:54:17,095 --> 00:54:21,178 Y-you really don't expect 1046 00:54:21,261 --> 00:54:25,929 a-a ranger to go to this length 1047 00:54:26,011 --> 00:54:30,595 of completely false assertions. 1048 00:54:38,011 --> 00:54:40,428 So, um, I don't know. 1049 00:54:40,512 --> 00:54:42,303 That's a better question for the-- whether there's 1050 00:54:42,387 --> 00:54:46,261 false or misleading information in that, um, affidavit 1051 00:54:46,345 --> 00:54:48,428 is a better question for the Texas Rangers. 1052 00:54:53,261 --> 00:54:54,970 [Greg] It feels like I'm-I'm just being accused all over 1053 00:54:55,053 --> 00:54:57,970 again and they're not trying to prove anything. 1054 00:54:59,011 --> 00:55:01,053 So I have no idea what his motive is, 1055 00:55:01,136 --> 00:55:03,887 and it freaks me out. 1056 00:55:03,970 --> 00:55:05,428 Because I know one thing: 1057 00:55:05,512 --> 00:55:08,261 Chris Dailey was never even like that. 1058 00:55:08,345 --> 00:55:10,637 Chris Dailey was either against me or for me. 1059 00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:13,053 And this dude was full-on against me. 1060 00:55:13,136 --> 00:55:14,095 Right? 1061 00:55:14,178 --> 00:55:15,136 And you know what? 1062 00:55:15,220 --> 00:55:16,053 I can come to terms with that, 1063 00:55:16,136 --> 00:55:17,470 because I know why he's doing it. 1064 00:55:17,553 --> 00:55:19,595 I don't know why the Texas Ranger's doing this. 1065 00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:21,053 I don't. 1066 00:55:21,136 --> 00:55:24,053 Some investigators, the way that they attack 1067 00:55:24,136 --> 00:55:28,345 an investigation is to treat each suspect 1068 00:55:28,428 --> 00:55:31,261 as the target of the investigation. 1069 00:55:31,345 --> 00:55:34,095 It may be an investigative technique that Ranger Mitchell's 1070 00:55:34,178 --> 00:55:37,428 looking at doing in terms of: 1071 00:55:37,512 --> 00:55:41,053 okay, let me treat him like he is the primary suspect 1072 00:55:41,136 --> 00:55:42,470 and let's see what happens. 1073 00:55:42,553 --> 00:55:45,595 So, I'm not really being in Cody's mind, 1074 00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:47,470 in the Texas Ranger's mind, 1075 00:55:47,553 --> 00:55:49,470 that may have been what he was trying to do. 1076 00:55:51,053 --> 00:55:53,512 After all of this, 1077 00:55:53,595 --> 00:55:56,345 I go back to get Greg 1078 00:55:56,428 --> 00:55:59,428 a-a-and-and walk him out of that jail. 1079 00:55:59,512 --> 00:56:02,345 And then Greg comes out, and I look over. 1080 00:56:02,428 --> 00:56:09,178 In a black truck is this ranger with this big smile 1081 00:56:09,261 --> 00:56:11,637 on his face. 1082 00:56:12,387 --> 00:56:15,261 And I just went: this is-- what are-- for-- 1083 00:56:15,345 --> 00:56:19,136 what are you doing here was my feeling, pretty hostile. 1084 00:56:19,220 --> 00:56:22,470 And there he is, big grin on his face, and waves at me. 1085 00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:30,220 What the ranger did-- 1086 00:56:30,303 --> 00:56:35,095 this was a drive-by character assassination of Greg Kelley. 1087 00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:40,512 The judge found Greg to be credible. 1088 00:56:40,595 --> 00:56:42,762 She found him to be innocent. 1089 00:56:42,845 --> 00:56:47,345 She read that entire search warrant affidavit. 1090 00:56:47,428 --> 00:56:51,679 And, uh, so it meant nothing to the judge. 1091 00:56:51,762 --> 00:56:54,845 It meant nothing to the DA's Office. 1092 00:56:54,929 --> 00:56:57,345 And it meant nothing to me. 1093 00:56:57,428 --> 00:57:02,303 It does mean something to Greg because there will always 1094 00:57:02,387 --> 00:57:04,595 be a doubt with somebody out there. 1095 00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:15,178 The ranger has had a y-- we're at a year and a half. 1096 00:57:15,261 --> 00:57:16,679 I don't think we're ever going to see a report 1097 00:57:16,762 --> 00:57:18,470 from this ranger. 1098 00:57:19,261 --> 00:57:20,679 He-- nothing? 1099 00:57:20,762 --> 00:57:22,470 A year and a half? 1100 00:57:24,387 --> 00:57:25,470 No. 1101 00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:30,512 [Greg] Ideally, I need this as soon as possible 1102 00:57:30,595 --> 00:57:33,887 because football's hanging on a thread right now. 1103 00:57:34,637 --> 00:57:38,595 And, um, I can't do the things that I've been training 1104 00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:41,762 my butt off for unless [laughs], 1105 00:57:41,845 --> 00:57:43,053 this happens. 1106 00:57:43,136 --> 00:57:46,679 Um, I kind of feel like I'm really anchored down. 1107 00:57:46,762 --> 00:57:51,470 But I need this to happen within the next two months, 1108 00:57:51,553 --> 00:57:53,220 you know, three months. 1109 00:57:56,303 --> 00:57:57,929 [Keith] Greg Kelley's case, 1110 00:57:58,011 --> 00:57:59,762 the journey of his case, 1111 00:57:59,845 --> 00:58:04,595 has been unique and unprecedented at every stage. 1112 00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:08,178 No one would have anticipated the various events 1113 00:58:08,261 --> 00:58:10,470 that have already occurred in this case. 1114 00:58:10,553 --> 00:58:15,762 My worry as I sit here right now is the dark scenario 1115 00:58:15,845 --> 00:58:22,345 of another opportunity to make another go at Greg Kelley. 1116 00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:27,845 The idea that this could all be swept away, uh, 1117 00:58:27,929 --> 00:58:32,220 from him because of the forces that are allied against him 1118 00:58:32,303 --> 00:58:35,095 at the Court of Criminal Appeals is unthinkable. 1119 00:58:35,178 --> 00:58:36,804 But I have to think about it: 1120 00:58:39,387 --> 00:58:42,303 how could we be defeated? 1121 00:58:42,387 --> 00:58:44,762 How could this all be taken away from him? 1122 00:58:44,845 --> 00:58:48,679 And I hate to say it, but it is in fact possible. 1123 00:58:53,553 --> 00:59:03,720 ♪ dramatic music ♪ 1124 00:59:03,804 --> 00:59:15,637 ♪ 88164

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