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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: -1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Subindex build by Linnet http://linnet.126.com http://blog.csdn.net/redbirdli 火鸟字幕合并器SubindexV0.5 Created time 24.09.11 22:49:48 1 23:59:59,000 --> 00:00:03,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.CO 2 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,610 Don't throw it away in court, because of here. 3 00:01:04,975 --> 00:01:06,319 That's what they want. 4 00:01:32,510 --> 00:01:35,649 So, is there anything that I should know about Ben? 5 00:01:35,769 --> 00:01:37,350 Anything inconvenient, I mean. 6 00:01:37,888 --> 00:01:41,190 It's best I know, so we can deal with it if they bring it up. 7 00:01:41,403 --> 00:01:42,548 I hate surprises. 8 00:01:43,836 --> 00:01:45,615 No, no, there's nothing. 9 00:02:20,948 --> 00:02:22,689 Do you believe he didn't do it? 10 00:02:25,908 --> 00:02:28,246 99% of the clients I represent... 11 00:02:28,455 --> 00:02:30,688 I am 100% sure 12 00:02:31,238 --> 00:02:33,550 committed the crimes they're charged with. 13 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,369 I can't say the same about your son. 14 00:02:39,463 --> 00:02:41,886 - That's not a proper answer. - Yes, it is. 15 00:02:42,647 --> 00:02:43,982 It absolutely is. 16 00:02:45,356 --> 00:02:48,451 Reasonable doubt, Mrs Coulter, that's all I'm after. 17 00:02:49,045 --> 00:02:50,302 That's all I need. 18 00:02:50,718 --> 00:02:52,197 It's all any of us need. 19 00:03:17,243 --> 00:03:19,707 Of course I'm not nervous. This is one more day in court, 20 00:03:20,204 --> 00:03:21,614 just like any other. 21 00:03:24,171 --> 00:03:27,272 Who's the other one? The one who isn't the petrol-station guy? 22 00:03:27,432 --> 00:03:29,430 The neighbour who called the policeon the night. 23 00:03:29,610 --> 00:03:31,613 He's not even a fully-bound witness? 24 00:03:31,733 --> 00:03:33,029 His statement was read? 25 00:03:33,208 --> 00:03:35,105 So why is he here? Voyeur. 26 00:03:35,225 --> 00:03:37,908 Hasn't he got better things to do? Vultures, the both of them! 27 00:03:38,069 --> 00:03:39,147 Is your rant nearlyover? 28 00:03:39,364 --> 00:03:40,110 What? 29 00:03:41,164 --> 00:03:42,496 Can we have a word? 30 00:03:44,596 --> 00:03:47,312 - We need Ben to give evidence. - But do we? 31 00:03:47,672 --> 00:03:50,424 We've already established that the senior police officer in this case 32 00:03:50,585 --> 00:03:52,641 has taken evidence away from the crime scene. 33 00:03:52,761 --> 00:03:55,251 How often do you get something as good as that? 34 00:03:55,371 --> 00:03:56,500 It's not enough. 35 00:03:58,299 --> 00:04:00,293 What's he going to say, Frances? 36 00:04:00,586 --> 00:04:03,043 "I can't remember what happened. It's all a bit of a blur." 37 00:04:03,163 --> 00:04:06,698 - How's that going to make it better? - It's not about what he says. 38 00:04:07,271 --> 00:04:10,697 Ben couldn't killanyone, *but the jury ignore it cos they haven't had a good look at him. 39 00:04:10,856 --> 00:04:14,334 Him being a nice kid isn't gonna count for anything when Painter cross-examines 40 00:04:14,637 --> 00:04:16,908 his convenient amnesia into the ground. 41 00:04:17,028 --> 00:04:19,294 Juries don't like it when a defendant hides. 42 00:04:21,665 --> 00:04:22,813 Listen to me. 43 00:04:25,417 --> 00:04:27,251 Almost all of my clients 44 00:04:27,411 --> 00:04:28,351 are guilty. 45 00:04:28,471 --> 00:04:31,300 But at least half of them get off. Why? 46 00:04:32,457 --> 00:04:36,423 Because the prosecution has to come up with such a high standard of proof, 47 00:04:36,543 --> 00:04:38,886 - beyond all reasonable doubt. - I'm in charge in court. 48 00:04:39,885 --> 00:04:42,326 Tomorrow, I want evidence to support him. 49 00:04:43,077 --> 00:04:44,278 Go and get it. 50 00:05:00,103 --> 00:05:01,662 You know what people say... 51 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:04,093 When you're being cross-examined, it's a prosecutor's job 52 00:05:04,213 --> 00:05:06,717 to get under your skin and make you lose your temper. 53 00:05:06,878 --> 00:05:10,430 It's very important that you stay calm and just answer the questions. 54 00:05:12,607 --> 00:05:13,413 Wrong. 55 00:05:15,217 --> 00:05:15,931 Why? 56 00:05:17,524 --> 00:05:20,872 A man in a wig you've never met before is going to suggest you're a murderer. 57 00:05:21,637 --> 00:05:24,191 There'd be something badly wrong with you if you didn't fight back. 58 00:05:25,271 --> 00:05:26,611 Be yourself, Ben. 59 00:05:28,736 --> 00:05:29,840 Where is Stone? 60 00:05:30,189 --> 00:05:32,233 - He's working. - Did you speak to him? 61 00:05:33,964 --> 00:05:35,482 He thinks you'll be great. 62 00:05:59,765 --> 00:06:02,149 My barrister thinks you're a voyeur. 63 00:06:05,609 --> 00:06:06,793 I don't agree. 64 00:06:07,588 --> 00:06:10,415 You are a witness in a murder trial, that's a really important thing. 65 00:06:12,100 --> 00:06:14,365 But nobody has disputed anything you told the police, 66 00:06:14,485 --> 00:06:16,301 so your witness statement is just 67 00:06:16,903 --> 00:06:18,685 read out to the jury. 68 00:06:19,654 --> 00:06:22,638 And you don't get your 15 minutes in the limelight. 69 00:06:23,254 --> 00:06:26,275 And your sense of helping the justice system, 70 00:06:26,395 --> 00:06:28,242 of being a good citizen, it... 71 00:06:28,792 --> 00:06:29,810 dissolves. 72 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,234 And you don't feel nearly as wanted as you thought you were going to be. 73 00:06:38,125 --> 00:06:39,168 Am I right? 74 00:06:48,915 --> 00:06:51,176 Had you gone into the witness stand, 75 00:06:52,465 --> 00:06:54,640 what else would you've said, Mr Wallace, 76 00:06:55,785 --> 00:06:57,074 given the chance? 77 00:06:59,881 --> 00:07:00,866 I woke up. 78 00:07:04,828 --> 00:07:06,574 The knife was on the table. 79 00:07:08,939 --> 00:07:10,666 And there was blood on it. 80 00:07:14,046 --> 00:07:15,041 Then what? 81 00:07:18,970 --> 00:07:20,469 I went back upstairs. 82 00:07:25,489 --> 00:07:26,822 What did you see? 83 00:07:34,085 --> 00:07:35,785 She was there, on the bed. 84 00:07:37,867 --> 00:07:40,984 Do you have any memory of any kind about how she died? 85 00:07:42,043 --> 00:07:42,863 No. 86 00:07:43,736 --> 00:07:46,537 But I know that I'm not the kind of person 87 00:07:47,391 --> 00:07:49,021 that could do a thing like that. 88 00:07:53,133 --> 00:07:55,743 I want to end by asking a difficult question. 89 00:07:57,865 --> 00:07:59,617 What did you make of Melanie Lloyd? 90 00:08:03,082 --> 00:08:05,253 I thought that she was funny 91 00:08:06,915 --> 00:08:08,506 and interesting, and... 92 00:08:09,042 --> 00:08:09,942 unusual. 93 00:08:12,355 --> 00:08:14,096 And she caught me off guard. 94 00:08:15,717 --> 00:08:17,571 I thinkShe probably did that to a lot of people. 95 00:08:17,731 --> 00:08:19,850 - Stop talking about her! - Mr Lloyd! 96 00:08:21,831 --> 00:08:24,507 I can't tell you how sorry I am that your daughter is dead. 97 00:08:24,627 --> 00:08:25,384 Liar! 98 00:08:29,172 --> 00:08:30,560 Are you dishonest? 99 00:08:32,896 --> 00:08:33,646 No. 100 00:08:33,846 --> 00:08:36,101 People can rely on you to tell the truth? 101 00:08:36,844 --> 00:08:39,283 - Yes. - You're not the kind of person 102 00:08:40,476 --> 00:08:42,595 who tells lies to get what he wants? 103 00:08:43,521 --> 00:08:44,229 No. 104 00:08:47,362 --> 00:08:49,859 On the night that you met Melanie Lloyd, 105 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:53,518 did you ask your father's permission to drive his black cab? 106 00:08:55,561 --> 00:08:57,889 - No. - Were you insured to drive it? 107 00:09:00,156 --> 00:09:01,995 So you were breaking the law. 108 00:09:02,461 --> 00:09:04,094 You don't have to answer any question 109 00:09:04,275 --> 00:09:06,434 which might incriminate you in another offence. 110 00:09:07,651 --> 00:09:08,543 What's funny? 111 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:11,620 It's... 112 00:09:16,161 --> 00:09:18,680 No insurance. It doesn't seem like a... 113 00:09:19,905 --> 00:09:21,992 big problem in the scale of things. 114 00:09:22,111 --> 00:09:23,668 Are you the kind of person 115 00:09:24,059 --> 00:09:26,550 who acts in such a way that the lives of others 116 00:09:26,670 --> 00:09:28,414 are put at serious risk? 117 00:09:29,390 --> 00:09:30,090 No. 118 00:09:30,404 --> 00:09:33,759 Is driving under the influence of Class A drugs 119 00:09:33,924 --> 00:09:35,064 a risk to others? 120 00:09:36,842 --> 00:09:39,343 - Not that kind of a person? - Same warning. 121 00:09:39,502 --> 00:09:41,062 You don't have to answer. 122 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,301 What has happened to your father's cab? 123 00:09:47,203 --> 00:09:48,348 I crashed it. 124 00:09:49,578 --> 00:09:52,359 Does he have a means of making a living without it? 125 00:09:54,965 --> 00:09:57,950 Did you think about any of that before you took his cab? 126 00:09:59,343 --> 00:10:00,152 This... 127 00:10:02,583 --> 00:10:04,222 This is just trivial stuff. 128 00:10:04,342 --> 00:10:06,463 Well, you brought it up, Mr Coulter. 129 00:10:07,278 --> 00:10:08,333 Brought what up? 130 00:10:08,453 --> 00:10:10,531 What kind of a person you are. I'm very interested 131 00:10:10,693 --> 00:10:12,501 in exploring that question. 132 00:10:14,724 --> 00:10:17,529 Why did you pick up Melanie Lloyd in your father's taxi? 133 00:10:18,245 --> 00:10:20,568 - She just got in. - Did you ask her to get out? 134 00:10:21,809 --> 00:10:23,081 - No. - Why not? 135 00:10:24,806 --> 00:10:26,939 - I don't know. - What if she'd been a man? 136 00:10:27,059 --> 00:10:29,546 - What do you mean? - Would you have allowed a strange man 137 00:10:29,666 --> 00:10:30,925 to get into the cab? 138 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:33,945 And then agree to drive him 50 miles 139 00:10:34,203 --> 00:10:35,447 to the seaside? 140 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:37,476 No. 141 00:10:37,779 --> 00:10:39,092 So, why with Melanie? 142 00:10:41,224 --> 00:10:43,200 Was it because you wanted to have sex with her? 143 00:10:47,469 --> 00:10:50,661 - I don't do that kind of thing. - But you did do exactly 144 00:10:50,781 --> 00:10:52,599 that kind of thing. Didn't you? 145 00:10:52,873 --> 00:10:55,175 On your own admission, you had sex with Melanie 146 00:10:55,295 --> 00:10:57,116 hours after her picking her up. 147 00:10:58,255 --> 00:11:00,393 When did you decide you wanted to have sex with her? 148 00:11:00,513 --> 00:11:03,426 - I know what you're doing. - What's that, Mr Coulter? 149 00:11:03,915 --> 00:11:06,491 You're trying to find ways to make me look like someone that I'm not. 150 00:11:06,673 --> 00:11:08,002 What kind of sex? 151 00:11:10,961 --> 00:11:13,510 - What do you mean? - Don't be coy, Mr Coulter. 152 00:11:13,671 --> 00:11:15,229 This is a murder trial. 153 00:11:16,117 --> 00:11:17,037 It was... 154 00:11:19,416 --> 00:11:21,907 It wasn't... It was just over very quickly. 155 00:11:22,067 --> 00:11:23,232 It was short. 156 00:11:23,931 --> 00:11:25,346 - Yes. - Brutish? 157 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:27,657 Is that your usual way? 158 00:11:27,777 --> 00:11:31,056 Why do you want everything to be packaged and labelled? 159 00:11:31,773 --> 00:11:34,982 Life isn't like that. Sometimes things just... 160 00:11:35,295 --> 00:11:37,636 come along and happen, and it's not normal, 161 00:11:37,756 --> 00:11:40,061 and it's not the usual way, it just is. 162 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:42,769 No foreplay? 163 00:11:44,134 --> 00:11:45,861 No, not really. It was... 164 00:11:48,587 --> 00:11:49,657 She wanted... 165 00:11:50,475 --> 00:11:51,657 What did she want? 166 00:11:51,912 --> 00:11:52,889 She was... 167 00:11:53,406 --> 00:11:56,728 - asking for it to be like that. - Melanie was asking for it? 168 00:12:02,426 --> 00:12:03,812 I tried to kiss her. 169 00:12:04,583 --> 00:12:06,713 - Yes? - But she wouldn't let me. 170 00:12:07,302 --> 00:12:10,343 She withheld her consent? She said no to you kissing her? 171 00:12:11,490 --> 00:12:15,328 And you want us to believe she went on to consent to sexual intercourse? 172 00:12:16,617 --> 00:12:17,808 I'm telling the truth. 173 00:12:17,967 --> 00:12:21,446 The truth is you saw this vulnerable girl as sexual prey. 174 00:12:22,020 --> 00:12:24,327 Melanie believe you were a genuine cab-driver, 175 00:12:24,447 --> 00:12:26,928 and she ended up dead because she misread your whole, 176 00:12:27,048 --> 00:12:29,084 very plausible, character. 177 00:12:29,244 --> 00:12:32,163 She thought you were Mr Normal, and that cost her her life. 178 00:12:37,219 --> 00:12:38,026 Lunch. 179 00:12:39,692 --> 00:12:41,461 Massive, massive problem. 180 00:12:41,581 --> 00:12:43,740 Whole trial blown out the water. 181 00:12:48,526 --> 00:12:50,478 First, a disappearing inhaler 182 00:12:51,042 --> 00:12:53,266 and now non-disclosure of evidence. 183 00:12:55,141 --> 00:12:56,785 The neighbour called the police 184 00:12:56,905 --> 00:12:58,990 about a big fracas involving Dad 185 00:12:59,110 --> 00:13:02,466 and an angry boyfriend, and you chose not to disclose it to us. 186 00:13:03,711 --> 00:13:05,053 It's not relevant. 187 00:13:06,892 --> 00:13:09,630 Three days before the murder, Box. Not relevant? 188 00:13:11,004 --> 00:13:12,636 Now, you know the rules. 189 00:13:12,969 --> 00:13:15,508 I could kick up a massive fuss about this, or... 190 00:13:15,790 --> 00:13:17,742 you can give me the name of the boy 191 00:13:17,862 --> 00:13:20,111 screaming his head off at Robert Lloyd. 192 00:13:47,477 --> 00:13:49,074 What the hell's going on? 193 00:13:49,365 --> 00:13:50,397 It's fine. 194 00:13:51,702 --> 00:13:54,686 Why their solicitor thinks he's gonna blow the case right out of the water? 195 00:13:54,806 --> 00:13:57,752 He had a problem with non-disclosure. It's gone away. 196 00:13:57,934 --> 00:14:01,452 I do not want to be embarrassed by this. I want you to tell him exactly what's going on 197 00:14:01,821 --> 00:14:04,752 and then I want to know whether this prosecution is safe to go on with. 198 00:14:04,940 --> 00:14:06,370 - It's safe. - Is it? 199 00:14:06,530 --> 00:14:07,290 Are you? 200 00:14:08,374 --> 00:14:11,888 - I thought we were on the same side, sir. - We picked up a car thief last night 201 00:14:12,049 --> 00:14:14,500 in the Stockhill Estate. He was off his face. 202 00:14:14,824 --> 00:14:16,766 He wasn't half chatty. You know what he said? 203 00:14:17,395 --> 00:14:19,493 Everyone knows who did the Stockhill murder. 204 00:14:19,613 --> 00:14:20,997 Why don't you, Box? 205 00:14:21,904 --> 00:14:23,045 Nobody talks. 206 00:14:23,487 --> 00:14:26,127 I thought old-school coppers were meant to get results, 207 00:14:26,247 --> 00:14:28,162 I thought that was the whole point of breaking the rules. 208 00:14:28,528 --> 00:14:30,134 This prosecution is safe. 209 00:14:30,254 --> 00:14:33,236 Mr Stone will not be blowing anything out the water. 210 00:14:33,451 --> 00:14:35,560 I want results on both cases, Box. 211 00:14:41,231 --> 00:14:43,157 We didn't like each other in school, Mel and me. 212 00:14:43,963 --> 00:14:45,708 Then, in the last year, we did. 213 00:14:46,123 --> 00:14:49,716 - And by the end, we were best friends. - Tell me about the boyfriend. 214 00:14:50,602 --> 00:14:51,425 Lizzie? 215 00:14:52,139 --> 00:14:53,284 Put it this way. 216 00:14:53,593 --> 00:14:56,729 Stuart wasn't the kind of boyfriend her dad would have wanted her to have. 217 00:14:57,077 --> 00:14:58,570 Can I write this down? 218 00:14:58,767 --> 00:15:00,635 Look, I don't want to hurt anybody. 219 00:15:03,890 --> 00:15:05,485 You know, all my life, 220 00:15:06,197 --> 00:15:09,463 I've seen the way people look at me when I tell them I'm a lawyer. 221 00:15:10,024 --> 00:15:11,826 You know what that look says? 222 00:15:12,257 --> 00:15:14,341 It says, cynic. 223 00:15:15,223 --> 00:15:17,585 They think I'm a man of no principle and I'm not. 224 00:15:17,745 --> 00:15:19,852 I am a man with one principle. 225 00:15:20,773 --> 00:15:22,683 To serve the single 226 00:15:22,803 --> 00:15:24,903 greatest democratic institution 227 00:15:25,507 --> 00:15:26,764 ever invented. 228 00:15:28,258 --> 00:15:30,041 My whole reason for being 229 00:15:30,857 --> 00:15:33,127 is to give the jury everything I can 230 00:15:33,325 --> 00:15:35,059 to help them do what they do. 231 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:36,636 I trust them. 232 00:15:37,489 --> 00:15:38,663 So should you. 233 00:15:44,366 --> 00:15:45,389 Good sleep? 234 00:15:49,143 --> 00:15:49,854 What? 235 00:15:50,014 --> 00:15:51,732 Over the lunch break, did you... 236 00:15:52,026 --> 00:15:53,482 Did you have a good sleep? 237 00:15:54,195 --> 00:15:56,561 What has this got to do with the case? 238 00:15:56,999 --> 00:15:59,235 I'm interested in what kind of a man goes to sleep 239 00:15:59,355 --> 00:16:01,370 halfway through giving evidence in a murder trial. 240 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:04,865 I'm wondering how the two things fit. 241 00:16:11,017 --> 00:16:12,387 Have you any idea 242 00:16:13,504 --> 00:16:14,583 how I feel? 243 00:16:15,789 --> 00:16:17,910 Do you know what this is like? 244 00:16:19,873 --> 00:16:21,562 What happened to you last night? 245 00:16:21,792 --> 00:16:23,762 Did you go to bed with your wife? 246 00:16:24,172 --> 00:16:25,082 Mr Coulter... 247 00:16:26,307 --> 00:16:28,006 What? They can't hear this? 248 00:16:28,663 --> 00:16:30,600 They want to look at me. 249 00:16:30,908 --> 00:16:34,401 They judge me. How can they do that if they don't know what's happening to me? 250 00:16:35,387 --> 00:16:36,664 I'm very tired. 251 00:16:37,998 --> 00:16:40,569 I'm tired because I'm trying to stay alive. 252 00:16:46,073 --> 00:16:47,914 Shall we continue with the trial, 253 00:16:48,074 --> 00:16:49,774 - Mr Coulter? - My name is Ben. 254 00:16:50,197 --> 00:16:52,853 I have never been called Mr Coulter in my life. 255 00:16:54,422 --> 00:16:57,140 All along, I've tried to tell you the truth. 256 00:16:58,163 --> 00:17:00,139 I just want you all to listen. 257 00:17:02,734 --> 00:17:06,394 You weren't trying to tell the truth at the police station, were you? 258 00:17:08,929 --> 00:17:10,505 - What do you mean? - "No comment. 259 00:17:11,151 --> 00:17:13,125 "No comment, no comment." 260 00:17:13,245 --> 00:17:16,581 157 times in interview. 261 00:17:17,266 --> 00:17:19,143 My solicitor told me to do it. 262 00:17:19,536 --> 00:17:22,182 You did manage, at one stage, to break free 263 00:17:22,342 --> 00:17:24,663 of the tyranny of silence imposed on you by your solicitor 264 00:17:24,783 --> 00:17:26,500 and you started to answer questions. 265 00:17:27,853 --> 00:17:30,979 I didn't feel comfortable about saying "no comment" all the time. 266 00:17:31,601 --> 00:17:33,050 Didn't last, did it? 267 00:17:34,224 --> 00:17:36,376 You went back to "no comment" when the going got tough. 268 00:17:36,537 --> 00:17:37,936 That's what you do, isn't it? 269 00:17:38,195 --> 00:17:41,436 You make a big noise when you can, and when things get difficult, 270 00:17:41,650 --> 00:17:42,616 you clam up. 271 00:17:43,472 --> 00:17:44,973 That's what you're doing now. 272 00:17:45,135 --> 00:17:47,226 When Ben Coulter can't explain something, 273 00:17:47,346 --> 00:17:49,651 he looks at the floor and says nothing. 274 00:17:50,468 --> 00:17:53,782 And you can't explain the death of Melanie Lloyd, can you? Why? 275 00:17:54,256 --> 00:17:55,905 Because you killed her. 276 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:11,330 How can I help? 277 00:18:11,450 --> 00:18:13,508 Do you have any Nurse With Wound? 278 00:18:14,978 --> 00:18:16,371 No, sorry. 279 00:18:17,938 --> 00:18:18,896 Melanie Lloyd? 280 00:18:23,418 --> 00:18:25,160 You didn't go to the funeral. 281 00:18:25,883 --> 00:18:26,680 No. 282 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:27,712 Why not? 283 00:18:30,382 --> 00:18:31,957 You and the dad not get along? 284 00:18:32,448 --> 00:18:34,196 Who've you been talking to? 285 00:18:34,561 --> 00:18:37,556 You lost your temper with him a few days before Melanie's murder. 286 00:18:38,354 --> 00:18:41,525 - You've got that the wrong way round. - What's the wrong way round? 287 00:18:43,207 --> 00:18:44,572 He works nights. 288 00:18:44,823 --> 00:18:46,032 He came home early. 289 00:18:47,742 --> 00:18:48,751 He went for me. 290 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:50,249 Melanie's dad? 291 00:18:51,183 --> 00:18:53,389 - Yep. - Oh, that's interesting. 292 00:18:53,835 --> 00:18:55,157 See, I've been asking around 293 00:18:55,277 --> 00:18:57,549 and it seems you're the one with form for violence. 294 00:18:59,134 --> 00:19:01,145 And a spot of credit-card fraud. 295 00:19:01,838 --> 00:19:02,987 So that makes you... 296 00:19:04,996 --> 00:19:06,146 a violent liar? 297 00:19:11,950 --> 00:19:14,227 You need me to be some kind of low life, 298 00:19:14,928 --> 00:19:15,823 don't you? 299 00:19:17,168 --> 00:19:17,956 Sorry. 300 00:19:18,698 --> 00:19:20,317 No criminal convictions. 301 00:19:22,709 --> 00:19:24,300 In your version of events, 302 00:19:24,512 --> 00:19:25,508 you woke up, 303 00:19:26,126 --> 00:19:28,682 you went to the bedroom and you discovered Melanie dead. 304 00:19:29,084 --> 00:19:31,319 You ran out, you got in the cab and you drove away. 305 00:19:31,439 --> 00:19:32,623 - Yes. - Fast. 306 00:19:33,488 --> 00:19:37,243 The blind panic of somebody who's just seen something truly terrible? 307 00:19:37,801 --> 00:19:38,694 Yes. 308 00:19:40,944 --> 00:19:42,427 And then you went back. 309 00:19:43,796 --> 00:19:45,416 In your blind panic, 310 00:19:46,221 --> 00:19:48,025 you turned the taxi around 311 00:19:48,145 --> 00:19:52,003 and you drove back to the place you'd just been so desperate to get away from. 312 00:19:55,757 --> 00:19:57,568 I didn't know what I was doing. 313 00:19:58,006 --> 00:20:00,338 The wiping of blood from cupboard handles. 314 00:20:00,676 --> 00:20:03,175 The retrieval of the jacket you'd left behind. 315 00:20:03,447 --> 00:20:05,599 The wiping down of the walls. 316 00:20:06,816 --> 00:20:08,780 The removal and concealment of the knife 317 00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:11,991 which tests have now established was used to kill Melanie. 318 00:20:12,314 --> 00:20:13,421 All panic? 319 00:20:18,625 --> 00:20:20,174 I knew how it looked. 320 00:20:20,501 --> 00:20:22,350 You know how it looks to me? 321 00:20:23,266 --> 00:20:26,642 It looks like a cold-blooded, calculated attempt 322 00:20:27,523 --> 00:20:30,044 to get rid of deeply-incriminating evidence. 323 00:20:32,224 --> 00:20:33,773 I'm not cold-blooded. 324 00:20:35,854 --> 00:20:37,986 Right aAt the very start of this cross examination, 325 00:20:38,106 --> 00:20:41,432 I asked you if you could be relied upon to tell the truth. Do you remember? 326 00:20:42,594 --> 00:20:44,392 - Yes. - And you told this court 327 00:20:44,882 --> 00:20:46,251 you were an honest person. 328 00:20:47,471 --> 00:20:49,590 - Yes. - Do you want to change that answer? 329 00:20:50,899 --> 00:20:52,248 - No. - Are you sure? 330 00:20:56,563 --> 00:20:57,266 Yes. 331 00:20:57,593 --> 00:20:59,467 How long have you been at university? 332 00:21:04,540 --> 00:21:05,891 Who are you looking at? 333 00:21:15,947 --> 00:21:16,940 My mum and dad. 334 00:21:17,060 --> 00:21:17,770 Why? 335 00:21:21,307 --> 00:21:22,617 I dropped out... 336 00:21:23,592 --> 00:21:24,481 of uni. 337 00:21:26,591 --> 00:21:27,391 When? 338 00:21:30,529 --> 00:21:32,014 Seven months ago. 339 00:21:32,176 --> 00:21:33,126 I'm sorry? 340 00:21:33,852 --> 00:21:35,221 Seven months ago. 341 00:21:36,568 --> 00:21:38,164 Did you tell your mother? 342 00:21:38,742 --> 00:21:40,064 - No. - Your father? 343 00:21:40,184 --> 00:21:40,914 No. 344 00:21:42,023 --> 00:21:44,828 You lied to them for all that time? 345 00:21:47,447 --> 00:21:49,196 I'm asking you a question. 346 00:21:50,260 --> 00:21:51,609 I can't hear you. 347 00:22:00,595 --> 00:22:02,142 Did you leave the housein the morning, 348 00:22:02,262 --> 00:22:05,188 pretending that you were going to lectures? 349 00:22:07,526 --> 00:22:09,598 Did you talk about your day 350 00:22:10,530 --> 00:22:12,987 with your parents when you got back in the evening? 351 00:22:18,682 --> 00:22:20,718 If you don't answer, I'm very happy to call 352 00:22:20,879 --> 00:22:23,014 your mother and father to tell us. 353 00:22:25,437 --> 00:22:28,294 Months and months of lying. 354 00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:34,831 You're not an honest person, are you? 355 00:22:36,035 --> 00:22:38,301 When you were in the back of the police car, 356 00:22:38,486 --> 00:22:41,470 you asked a question. "Is she dead?" Did you say that? 357 00:22:46,864 --> 00:22:48,871 I hoped that maybe I was wrong... 358 00:22:50,272 --> 00:22:51,612 and that she was still alive. 359 00:22:51,732 --> 00:22:53,981 Did you bother to call an ambulance? 360 00:22:57,666 --> 00:22:58,934 - No. - Why not? 361 00:23:04,281 --> 00:23:05,831 - I was scared. - Of what? 362 00:23:11,032 --> 00:23:13,160 That it looked like me who'd done it. 363 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,163 You put your own self interest 364 00:23:15,919 --> 00:23:17,996 ahead of saving her life, didn't you? 365 00:23:20,124 --> 00:23:22,337 - That's how it looks. - It is how it looks. 366 00:23:22,903 --> 00:23:24,496 What did you do instead? 367 00:23:25,576 --> 00:23:27,032 You tried to run away, didn't you?Attention CP non detecté, d'ou la coupe 368 00:23:29,329 --> 00:23:31,193 - Yes. - You ran away 369 00:23:31,313 --> 00:23:33,346 with the murder weapon in your possession. 370 00:23:33,466 --> 00:23:36,781 The knife you claim that earlier on in the night 371 00:23:37,173 --> 00:23:39,634 you'd stuck in Melanie Lloyd's hand, as...Attention CP non detecté, éventuellement faire passer le "as" dans la suite... (en tout cas en VF) 372 00:23:39,754 --> 00:23:41,044 part of a game? 373 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,210 What did that feel like? 374 00:23:50,392 --> 00:23:51,269 I don't know. 375 00:23:51,389 --> 00:23:54,260 Come on. This is your version of events. What did it feel like 376 00:23:56,337 --> 00:23:57,606 to put a knife... 377 00:23:58,885 --> 00:24:00,535 in another human being? 378 00:24:05,060 --> 00:24:06,221 It was a game. 379 00:24:07,211 --> 00:24:08,473 It went too far. 380 00:24:09,952 --> 00:24:10,887 How far? 381 00:24:15,371 --> 00:24:16,620 Do you remember? 382 00:24:20,169 --> 00:24:21,056 How far? 383 00:24:41,318 --> 00:24:44,077 You've been in the witness box for a very long time. 384 00:24:46,391 --> 00:24:47,496 You've had... 385 00:24:47,877 --> 00:24:49,007 your evidence, 386 00:24:49,507 --> 00:24:52,151 your past, your character, everything about you 387 00:24:52,271 --> 00:24:54,305 tested and tested and tested. 388 00:24:58,206 --> 00:25:00,455 What I want to know from you is simple. 389 00:25:02,472 --> 00:25:04,111 Did you kill Melanie? 390 00:25:10,611 --> 00:25:11,470 Ben? 391 00:25:33,668 --> 00:25:35,011 Closing up now. 392 00:27:18,347 --> 00:27:19,397 You blew it. 393 00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:23,098 - What? - In the witness box. 394 00:27:46,944 --> 00:27:48,212 How bad was it? 395 00:27:48,691 --> 00:27:50,343 On a scale of one to ten? 396 00:27:51,921 --> 00:27:53,968 Right, well, water under the bridge. 397 00:27:55,159 --> 00:27:57,487 Unless he actually confessed to the murder. 398 00:27:59,044 --> 00:28:00,668 All right. So we move on. 399 00:28:00,894 --> 00:28:03,120 - With what? - With tThe best that we have at the moment, 400 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,365 Lizzie Smith. 401 00:28:04,744 --> 00:28:06,318 She can tell us all about Melanie's 402 00:28:06,438 --> 00:28:09,957 jealous, violent boyfriend, Stuart, and the fight he had with Melanie's dad. 403 00:28:10,412 --> 00:28:11,932 - She saw it? - No, 404 00:28:12,156 --> 00:28:13,917 but Melanie told her about it. 405 00:28:17,108 --> 00:28:19,059 I've just been to see the boyfriend. 406 00:28:19,179 --> 00:28:20,029 And...? 407 00:28:20,964 --> 00:28:22,114 Disappointing. 408 00:28:22,753 --> 00:28:25,234 But there's mud to be thrown, and where there's mud, there's hope. 409 00:28:25,354 --> 00:28:26,431 So chin up. 410 00:28:27,352 --> 00:28:28,759 You like being proved right, don't you? 411 00:28:30,055 --> 00:28:31,829 I like getting my clients off. 412 00:28:48,983 --> 00:28:50,032 Good shower? 413 00:29:08,817 --> 00:29:09,942 Hello, Ben! 414 00:29:17,349 --> 00:29:19,413 Is there anything you want to tell me? 415 00:29:21,446 --> 00:29:22,146 No. 416 00:29:22,864 --> 00:29:23,967 Are you sure? 417 00:29:28,811 --> 00:29:29,611 Yeah. 418 00:29:36,083 --> 00:29:37,299 Look at me. 419 00:29:41,469 --> 00:29:42,764 What do I need to know? 420 00:29:48,038 --> 00:29:49,335 Is there anything 421 00:29:49,860 --> 00:29:51,335 you want to tell me? 422 00:29:52,677 --> 00:29:54,126 You've betrayed me. 423 00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:56,830 Come on... 424 00:29:57,884 --> 00:30:00,213 - It was just his phone. - Don't insult my intelligence. 425 00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:02,662 Don't insult your own intelligence. 426 00:30:04,067 --> 00:30:04,986 I want... 427 00:30:06,094 --> 00:30:08,215 your disagreements with this man 428 00:30:08,854 --> 00:30:09,744 to end. 429 00:30:33,372 --> 00:30:34,222 Come on! 430 00:30:35,548 --> 00:30:37,322 Come on! Go on! 431 00:30:37,696 --> 00:30:38,546 Get him! 432 00:31:20,102 --> 00:31:21,052 So, what? 433 00:31:22,239 --> 00:31:23,577 You're the good guy, Hooch! 434 00:31:26,382 --> 00:31:27,678 Daddy Hooch! 435 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,705 Who took the phone, Hooch? 436 00:31:37,488 --> 00:31:38,438 Tell him. 437 00:31:44,844 --> 00:31:46,248 Tell him! 438 00:31:52,775 --> 00:31:53,725 It was me. 439 00:31:55,492 --> 00:31:56,276 You... 440 00:31:58,767 --> 00:32:00,016 You set this up? 441 00:32:00,874 --> 00:32:01,836 You're his! 442 00:32:05,374 --> 00:32:07,194 You see, my friend Hooch here? 443 00:32:09,077 --> 00:32:10,733 He's a very good listener. 444 00:32:16,952 --> 00:32:18,102 I trusted you. 445 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:21,709 You're a liar. 446 00:32:27,794 --> 00:32:29,026 I didn't see anything. 447 00:32:29,296 --> 00:32:32,106 There's nearly 300 prisoners on this wing, and two of us on duty tonight. 448 00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:35,185 What do you think's going to happen if we start seeing things? 449 00:32:36,533 --> 00:32:39,055 We are the custodians of law and order. 450 00:32:40,104 --> 00:32:43,447 That means letting the number one run things his own way. Right? 451 00:32:49,317 --> 00:32:51,189 Get me out of here. Please. 452 00:33:07,719 --> 00:33:08,974 My name's Gordon. 453 00:33:10,567 --> 00:33:11,418 Ben. 454 00:33:12,581 --> 00:33:13,850 You're safe now. 455 00:33:21,174 --> 00:33:23,419 Have the prosecution drawn attention to the bruises? 456 00:33:23,539 --> 00:33:25,535 Did their expert made a big deal of it? 457 00:33:25,771 --> 00:33:26,530 No. 458 00:33:27,101 --> 00:33:28,484 How tall's your client? 459 00:33:29,770 --> 00:33:31,000 5ft 7, maybe. 460 00:33:31,357 --> 00:33:32,154 Build? 461 00:33:32,773 --> 00:33:34,816 No, no, he's a skinny kid. 462 00:33:40,944 --> 00:33:41,894 Thank you. 463 00:33:48,205 --> 00:33:49,029 So, 464 00:33:49,372 --> 00:33:51,812 what are the chances of the judge allowing it in? 465 00:33:51,932 --> 00:33:54,711 This late in the day? 50/50 maybe. 466 00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:58,155 It's really good. 467 00:34:01,664 --> 00:34:04,234 Well, you'll need time to digest it. 468 00:34:09,158 --> 00:34:10,368 Judy Garland! 469 00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:13,391 She used to say it was 470 00:34:13,936 --> 00:34:16,424 impossibly hard to sing in front of thousands of people 471 00:34:16,544 --> 00:34:18,109 and then stop and do nothing. 472 00:34:19,817 --> 00:34:20,970 Play Carnegie Hall, 473 00:34:21,268 --> 00:34:24,827 standing ovations, empty hotel rooms. She couldn't do it. She couldn't... 474 00:34:25,737 --> 00:34:26,626 come down. 475 00:34:27,437 --> 00:34:29,067 Are you trying to tell me 476 00:34:29,187 --> 00:34:31,327 that my report on this dead body 477 00:34:31,447 --> 00:34:33,664 is your very own version of Over The Rainbow? 478 00:34:35,047 --> 00:34:37,196 And now you need a little company? 479 00:34:39,313 --> 00:34:41,062 Or am I completely wrong? 480 00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:46,437 I love her. 481 00:34:50,701 --> 00:34:52,784 That's what none of them understand. 482 00:34:54,077 --> 00:34:56,226 They want to make it ugly and bad. 483 00:34:58,481 --> 00:34:59,574 But it wasn't. 484 00:35:09,415 --> 00:35:10,540 Are you awake? 485 00:35:15,150 --> 00:35:16,792 I said goodbye to her. 486 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,365 Nobody knows this, but... 487 00:35:21,242 --> 00:35:22,991 ... I got my flowers to her. 488 00:35:27,053 --> 00:35:28,569 Eight yellow roses. 489 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,323 One for every year of her little life. 490 00:35:34,971 --> 00:35:36,144 Leave me alone. 491 00:35:36,563 --> 00:35:38,113 You're not alone, Ben. 492 00:35:38,437 --> 00:35:40,135 You'll be all right with us. 493 00:35:40,742 --> 00:35:42,432 We look after our own here. 494 00:35:43,553 --> 00:35:44,999 I'm a follower of Mr Graham. 495 00:35:46,845 --> 00:35:48,226 Open your heart, 496 00:35:48,813 --> 00:35:49,866 let him in. 497 00:36:00,569 --> 00:36:01,846 They've got to be joking. 498 00:36:01,966 --> 00:36:05,272 You can't hand over an expert report two-thirds of the way through a trial. 499 00:36:05,432 --> 00:36:07,623 We haven't got time to digest it, analyse it, 500 00:36:07,743 --> 00:36:10,743 instruct our own expert to deconstruct its findings. 501 00:36:11,194 --> 00:36:12,189 Miss Kapoor? 502 00:36:15,393 --> 00:36:16,472 He's right. 503 00:36:17,007 --> 00:36:19,427 If I were him, I'd be ranting and raving about unfairness. 504 00:36:21,037 --> 00:36:22,557 But it's a short report. 505 00:36:22,866 --> 00:36:25,309 Any barrister in his right mind should be able to... 506 00:36:25,429 --> 00:36:27,824 digest, analyse and deconstruct what it says. 507 00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:30,982 And this is a murder trial. 508 00:36:31,158 --> 00:36:33,182 The stakes could not be higher. 509 00:36:33,763 --> 00:36:35,178 Any judge in their right mind 510 00:36:35,298 --> 00:36:38,221 should never let mere inconvenience get in the way of justice in the round. 511 00:36:41,881 --> 00:36:42,798 Mr Painter. 512 00:36:43,558 --> 00:36:46,258 You've been in this job a long time, and so have I. 513 00:36:47,286 --> 00:36:49,985 Whether either of us is in our right mind or not, 514 00:36:50,327 --> 00:36:52,958 I'm sure we can cope with a surprise late in the day. 515 00:36:54,361 --> 00:36:56,934 Mr Painter. You'll want Professor Callaghan sitting behind you 516 00:36:57,339 --> 00:36:59,613 so he can hear what is said and give you assistance. 517 00:37:05,050 --> 00:37:06,899 They are not defence wounds. 518 00:37:07,137 --> 00:37:08,297 Why do you say that? 519 00:37:08,417 --> 00:37:10,966 People who are trying to defend themselves in a knife attack 520 00:37:11,086 --> 00:37:13,049 don't usually try and parry blows. 521 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,295 - What do they do? - They try to grab the knife. 522 00:37:16,716 --> 00:37:19,528 In which case, there will be longitudinal cuts on the palm. 523 00:37:19,648 --> 00:37:22,168 More than one if it's a double-edged blade. 524 00:37:22,294 --> 00:37:25,764 The wound she sustained was a puncture wound caused by the point of the knife. 525 00:37:26,625 --> 00:37:29,780 - She didn't try to grab the knife. - What if she were the exception? 526 00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:33,121 What if she were trying to parry the blows, fend them off? 527 00:37:33,588 --> 00:37:35,561 That'd result in the injuries described? 528 00:37:36,245 --> 00:37:38,650 No. The nature of the wound would be completely different. 529 00:37:38,770 --> 00:37:39,537 How? 530 00:37:40,292 --> 00:37:42,550 The tip of the knife is not very sharp. 531 00:37:42,997 --> 00:37:45,041 For the blade to have entered her palm 532 00:37:45,161 --> 00:37:47,517 and to have penetrated to the depth of wound here, 533 00:37:48,094 --> 00:37:50,327 her hand would have had to be against something. 534 00:37:50,447 --> 00:37:53,544 If she was holding her hand in the air, so as to deflect the knife 535 00:37:53,664 --> 00:37:56,954 during an attack upon her, it would be impossible for a wound 536 00:37:57,113 --> 00:37:59,457 of this type and depth to have resulted. 537 00:38:01,019 --> 00:38:03,462 If Melanie, in the hours before her death, 538 00:38:03,582 --> 00:38:06,149 had held her hand palm upwards on the table 539 00:38:06,269 --> 00:38:08,691 and the knife had been brought down on the palm... 540 00:38:08,811 --> 00:38:12,085 That would be entirely consistent with the wound on her palm. 541 00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:15,208 What about the vaginal injuries? 542 00:38:15,552 --> 00:38:18,087 As a medical finding, absolutely neutral. 543 00:38:18,293 --> 00:38:20,252 You get injuries to the posterior fourchette 544 00:38:20,372 --> 00:38:22,545 in both consensual and non-consensual sex. 545 00:38:23,003 --> 00:38:23,989 The heart? 546 00:38:24,374 --> 00:38:27,903 There is no question that the knife entered her heart and caused her death. 547 00:38:28,309 --> 00:38:30,638 But it would not have been instantaneous. 548 00:38:30,928 --> 00:38:33,383 It's a common misconception that people die straight away 549 00:38:33,503 --> 00:38:35,976 from violent trauma to the heart. It's not true. 550 00:38:36,234 --> 00:38:38,858 And it isn't painless. In some cases, 551 00:38:39,269 --> 00:38:41,244 it can take upto two minutes to die. 552 00:38:42,133 --> 00:38:44,016 Is there any evidence of that here? 553 00:38:44,136 --> 00:38:47,376 The stab wound was through the left ventricle, which is more muscular 554 00:38:47,536 --> 00:38:51,425 and can contract and therefore postpone the fatal haemorrhage for a while. 555 00:38:52,694 --> 00:38:56,210 And the grip marks on her upper arms suggest that she was held down. 556 00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:57,832 That she struggled desperately 557 00:38:58,592 --> 00:39:01,705 and had to be restrained during the time it took her to die. 558 00:39:01,825 --> 00:39:04,682 What conclusions, if any, can you draw from the bruises? 559 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,881 They were caused by someone with large hands. 560 00:39:11,927 --> 00:39:14,864 Could the defendant have left those marks? 561 00:39:15,982 --> 00:39:16,873 No. 562 00:39:21,664 --> 00:39:24,665 When were you instructed by defence solicitors to look at this case? 563 00:39:24,785 --> 00:39:25,925 48 hours ago. 564 00:39:26,522 --> 00:39:29,317 What's the normal amount of time you'd expect to be given in a murder case 565 00:39:29,437 --> 00:39:31,349 such as this to arrive at your findings? 566 00:39:31,469 --> 00:39:32,359 Months. 567 00:39:32,828 --> 00:39:35,474 - You weren't able to look at the body of the victim? - No. 568 00:39:35,594 --> 00:39:37,151 You were at a disadvantage 569 00:39:37,319 --> 00:39:39,150 compared with Professor Callaghan. 570 00:39:39,318 --> 00:39:42,269 I had the postmortem report and the report of your expert. 571 00:39:42,684 --> 00:39:45,892 "Your expert" is a curiously personal way of putting things. 572 00:39:46,012 --> 00:39:48,306 Experts have a duty to the court as professional witnesses. 573 00:39:48,537 --> 00:39:50,022 They don't belong to anyone. 574 00:39:50,142 --> 00:39:52,677 The expert upon whom the prosecution rely. 575 00:39:54,673 --> 00:39:58,421 When you were approached so late in the day to take on this work, 576 00:39:59,043 --> 00:40:03,430 did you ask if the defence had approached another expert earlier on the process? 577 00:40:03,771 --> 00:40:06,966 The defendant's solicitor, Mr Stone, had sounded out other experts 578 00:40:07,086 --> 00:40:09,330 - but decided not to instruct them. - Why not? 579 00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:10,421 I don't know. 580 00:40:10,541 --> 00:40:14,162 If I did know, I wouldn't tell you because it would be privileged information. 581 00:40:15,745 --> 00:40:17,945 Do you and Mr Stone... 582 00:40:20,229 --> 00:40:22,034 have a special relationship? 583 00:40:22,533 --> 00:40:25,021 - We go back a long way. - I won't dig any deeper. 584 00:40:25,182 --> 00:40:28,325 We slept with each other last night. Is that what you wanted to know? 585 00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:32,292 So, the 48 hours to complete your work on this case 586 00:40:32,504 --> 00:40:35,266 was reduced by the time you spent 587 00:40:35,971 --> 00:40:38,609 in bed with your instructing solicitor? 588 00:40:39,257 --> 00:40:42,008 You took this work on because you wanted to please Mr Stone, didn't you? 589 00:40:42,128 --> 00:40:43,950 Quite the opposite. I didn't want to do it. 590 00:40:44,216 --> 00:40:46,381 He seemed to be behaving in an a very unprofessional manner, 591 00:40:47,130 --> 00:40:48,580 but I was persuaded. 592 00:40:48,787 --> 00:40:50,605 By his undoubted charm. 593 00:40:50,931 --> 00:40:53,505 I took the case on because I have concerns 594 00:40:53,625 --> 00:40:55,870 about the quality of the prosecution medical evidence. 595 00:40:56,130 --> 00:40:57,481 And because I know 596 00:40:57,601 --> 00:41:01,322 a jury is very unlikely to ignore the evidence of an expert witness 597 00:41:01,573 --> 00:41:03,298 when he stands unopposed. 598 00:41:03,929 --> 00:41:05,690 You're very certain of your conclusions 599 00:41:05,810 --> 00:41:09,359 in what is an inexact and interpretative science. 600 00:41:09,651 --> 00:41:13,218 And I have no doubt, had I not come here and said what I have said, 601 00:41:13,338 --> 00:41:15,978 you would have made a closing speech to this jury 602 00:41:16,098 --> 00:41:18,483 about the quality of your expert's 603 00:41:18,644 --> 00:41:19,819 unchallenged opinion 604 00:41:19,939 --> 00:41:22,514 and the weight they should give to it and to him. 605 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,969 You're the witness. I'm asking the questions. 606 00:41:25,089 --> 00:41:28,035 And you are not behaving as a professional witness should. 607 00:41:28,155 --> 00:41:31,872 Whether the defendant is convicted or acquitted is of no consequence to me. 608 00:41:32,122 --> 00:41:33,670 I am here to tell the jury 609 00:41:34,348 --> 00:41:36,117 Mr Callaghan could be wrong 610 00:41:36,543 --> 00:41:38,033 and I could be right. 611 00:41:38,955 --> 00:41:41,134 The jury will decide between us. 612 00:41:46,293 --> 00:41:48,648 Nightmare. Might as well have been Audrey Hepburn. 613 00:41:48,768 --> 00:41:49,665 Nightmare! 614 00:41:50,206 --> 00:41:51,317 It's me first. 615 00:41:51,437 --> 00:41:54,383 I'll ask you about Stuart Napier and how he was with Melanie. 616 00:41:54,685 --> 00:41:58,161 All I need you to do is look at me and tell me what you told Stone. 617 00:41:58,659 --> 00:42:00,325 Then I get cross-examined? 618 00:42:00,445 --> 00:42:01,145 Yes. 619 00:42:08,837 --> 00:42:10,785 I'm going to ask you some more questions. 620 00:42:11,799 --> 00:42:14,823 You had very limited access to this relationship. 621 00:42:15,471 --> 00:42:18,303 You mean I didn't see much of Melanie and Stuart together? 622 00:42:18,922 --> 00:42:20,222 - No. - You heard things, 623 00:42:20,382 --> 00:42:24,013 you picked up bits and pieces here and there about how they got along? 624 00:42:24,133 --> 00:42:24,877 Yes. 625 00:42:24,997 --> 00:42:28,048 You didn't know what was happening between Melanie and Stuart, say, 626 00:42:28,419 --> 00:42:30,790 - a month before she died? - Not really. 627 00:42:31,862 --> 00:42:33,116 Or a week before? 628 00:42:33,663 --> 00:42:35,726 - No. - Or even the day before? 629 00:42:37,521 --> 00:42:39,568 - The day before, absolutely. - You have only a very 630 00:42:39,688 --> 00:42:42,665 - generalised outsider's view. - Wait. Don't do that! 631 00:42:43,213 --> 00:42:45,181 I haven't finished. You cut in on me. 632 00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,533 You'd better tTell us what were you going to say. 633 00:42:50,392 --> 00:42:51,930 The day before she died, 634 00:42:52,091 --> 00:42:53,793 I went round to the house. 635 00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:58,154 When I got to the door, I could hear her dad yelling at her about Stuart. 636 00:42:58,915 --> 00:42:59,920 What did he say? 637 00:43:00,773 --> 00:43:01,967 He was going mad. 638 00:43:02,344 --> 00:43:04,804 He kept saying, "You're not to see that man. I won't let you go." 639 00:43:07,091 --> 00:43:08,540 He was going spare. 640 00:43:10,086 --> 00:43:11,635 But he was like that. 641 00:43:14,077 --> 00:43:15,125 Like what? 642 00:43:21,093 --> 00:43:22,668 Ever since her mum died, 643 00:43:23,786 --> 00:43:25,589 he kept Melanie really close. 644 00:43:26,332 --> 00:43:27,551 He vetted everybody. 645 00:43:28,595 --> 00:43:31,038 In some ways, it was hard to be her friend. 646 00:43:31,951 --> 00:43:33,309 He was possessive? 647 00:43:35,241 --> 00:43:35,995 Yes. 648 00:43:37,011 --> 00:43:38,307 Obsessive possessive? 649 00:43:38,813 --> 00:43:41,217 - I'm not an expert. - No, you're not. 650 00:43:41,705 --> 00:43:44,105 And Miss Kapoor should not be asking you questions 651 00:43:44,273 --> 00:43:45,833 which suggest that you are. 652 00:43:46,308 --> 00:43:49,502 But my non-expert commonsense view is that she's right, yes. 653 00:43:50,486 --> 00:43:51,782 Obsessive possessive. 654 00:44:01,817 --> 00:44:04,154 You haven't mentioned any of this before. 655 00:44:06,052 --> 00:44:07,024 I wonder why. 656 00:44:07,333 --> 00:44:09,024 Because nobody asked me. 657 00:45:10,038 --> 00:45:11,603 Lizzie turned out to be a gift. 658 00:45:12,554 --> 00:45:15,033 Helen's made a real dent in the pathologist. 659 00:45:19,053 --> 00:45:19,753 What? 660 00:45:20,429 --> 00:45:23,278 Big hands, violent temper, access to the house. 661 00:45:23,597 --> 00:45:26,710 The last time he found a boyfriend at home, he beat him up. 662 00:45:27,605 --> 00:45:29,203 I'm calling Robert Lloyd. 663 00:45:30,564 --> 00:45:31,988 We're going after Dad. 664 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,423 I really thought that you were somebody who was surviving in here. 665 00:45:43,449 --> 00:45:44,908 Outside of the rules. 666 00:45:46,994 --> 00:45:50,203 Being a listener in this place is like being a priest. 667 00:45:50,323 --> 00:45:53,020 People talk to me like they've never talked to anybody else before. 668 00:45:53,495 --> 00:45:54,828 It gives them hope. 669 00:45:55,025 --> 00:45:57,366 Some of them, I'm keeping alive. 670 00:45:58,562 --> 00:45:59,916 And when Graham 671 00:46:00,036 --> 00:46:02,859 informs me that I have to tell him everything I heard, 672 00:46:02,979 --> 00:46:05,304 - what am I supposed to do? - You could have said no. 673 00:46:07,018 --> 00:46:08,713 You still don't get it, do you? 674 00:46:09,049 --> 00:46:10,914 Freddie Graham runs this place. 675 00:46:11,034 --> 00:46:14,715 If I'd have said no, my listener's job would have disappeared like that. 676 00:46:16,714 --> 00:46:17,991 I love what I do. 677 00:46:19,998 --> 00:46:21,499 It's what I am in here. 678 00:46:23,913 --> 00:46:25,005 But you betray them. 679 00:46:25,492 --> 00:46:26,192 No! 680 00:46:27,877 --> 00:46:30,530 I don't tell Graham every single thing I hear. 681 00:46:33,203 --> 00:46:35,981 So they carry on thinking you're their best friend, 682 00:46:36,987 --> 00:46:39,257 - which makes it easy for you? - Easy?! 683 00:46:39,767 --> 00:46:42,651 There's not a day goes by without me despising the role I took. 684 00:46:44,303 --> 00:46:45,598 The corrupting... 685 00:46:46,725 --> 00:46:47,845 It happens... 686 00:46:48,042 --> 00:46:49,001 so fast. 687 00:46:51,815 --> 00:46:53,316 And once I'd started... 688 00:46:54,565 --> 00:46:55,926 I couldn't go back. 689 00:46:58,823 --> 00:46:59,884 I'm not confessing. 690 00:47:00,185 --> 00:47:03,084 I don't want your forgiveness. I don't want anyone's forgiveness. 691 00:47:06,063 --> 00:47:07,309 What do you want? 692 00:47:07,562 --> 00:47:08,462 What? 693 00:47:21,458 --> 00:47:23,477 He knows about what's happening in the trial. 694 00:47:24,999 --> 00:47:26,144 That's not me. 695 00:47:29,129 --> 00:47:30,828 Where does it come from, then? 696 00:47:33,173 --> 00:47:34,322 I don't know. 697 00:47:40,063 --> 00:47:41,943 Don't do it. Don't call the dad. 698 00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,581 Suddenly you want to reverse the burden of proof. 699 00:47:45,701 --> 00:47:47,768 We don't have to prove anything, remember? 700 00:47:47,887 --> 00:47:49,216 Don't patronize me. 701 00:47:52,197 --> 00:47:55,580 - It's the right thing to do. - Right? What do you know about right? 702 00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:59,647 You're 26 years old, you've never been near a case this serious in your life. 703 00:48:00,318 --> 00:48:02,868 - Don't do this! - Ben didn't murder Melanie Lloyd. 704 00:48:02,988 --> 00:48:04,376 If he didn't, who did? 705 00:48:04,550 --> 00:48:06,334 That's the wrong question! 706 00:48:06,916 --> 00:48:09,973 You're 46 years old, you've spent more than half your life being a lawyer. 707 00:48:10,381 --> 00:48:12,248 What do you know about wrong? 708 00:48:16,578 --> 00:48:18,163 I've had enough of this. 709 00:48:19,969 --> 00:48:23,545 I will not run a murder trial as a series of defence whims. 710 00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:25,277 Now, 711 00:48:26,103 --> 00:48:28,647 what the hell do you think you're playing at? 712 00:48:29,308 --> 00:48:30,547 Straight answer! 713 00:48:31,610 --> 00:48:33,342 I want to call Robert Lloyd. 714 00:48:33,722 --> 00:48:35,116 The victim's father? 715 00:48:35,723 --> 00:48:38,091 No property in a witness, I can call anyone I like. 716 00:48:38,685 --> 00:48:41,049 He's been in court the entire time. He's heard the whole trial. 717 00:48:41,169 --> 00:48:44,409 Then we'll all have to be very careful about the weight we give to his evidence. 718 00:48:44,725 --> 00:48:46,328 Is the defence case 719 00:48:46,448 --> 00:48:48,999 that Robert Lloyd murdered his daughter? 720 00:48:50,399 --> 00:48:52,398 I want to explore that possibility. 721 00:48:52,706 --> 00:48:56,005 I'm not having you going on a fishing expedition with this man. 722 00:48:56,411 --> 00:48:57,410 Yes or no? 723 00:48:57,931 --> 00:49:00,835 Are you saying that Robert Lloyd murdered his daughter? 724 00:49:03,902 --> 00:49:04,662 Yes. 725 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,422 Were you arguing with Melanie the day before she was murdered? 726 00:49:12,155 --> 00:49:13,491 You shouted at her. 727 00:49:14,338 --> 00:49:16,636 You told her you would never let her go. 728 00:49:17,877 --> 00:49:19,405 Do you remember saying that? 729 00:49:21,417 --> 00:49:23,269 She used to tell me everything. 730 00:49:26,110 --> 00:49:27,527 And then she stopped. 731 00:49:28,610 --> 00:49:30,578 What were you afraid of, Mr Lloyd? 732 00:49:39,876 --> 00:49:41,980 Three years ago, I lost my wife. 733 00:49:44,586 --> 00:49:48,307 Before she died she made me promise to keep up certain standards with Mel. 734 00:49:51,504 --> 00:49:54,592 Stuart Napier, Melanie's last boyfriend. 735 00:49:55,850 --> 00:49:57,400 Was he up to standard? 736 00:49:59,752 --> 00:50:03,236 What did you do when you came home one night and found him there with Melanie? 737 00:50:03,355 --> 00:50:05,205 - I made him leave. - How? 738 00:50:06,014 --> 00:50:06,852 With force. 739 00:50:07,187 --> 00:50:08,292 You attacked him. 740 00:50:09,362 --> 00:50:11,560 He was bad for her. I got rid of him. 741 00:50:16,525 --> 00:50:18,693 Where were you on the night she died? 742 00:50:19,335 --> 00:50:20,335 I was at work. 743 00:50:20,669 --> 00:50:22,814 You work as a security guard on a building site? 744 00:50:23,293 --> 00:50:24,025 Yeah. 745 00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:26,915 Do you every leave work early? 746 00:50:33,466 --> 00:50:35,442 Mr Lloyd, you have to answer the question. 747 00:50:35,610 --> 00:50:37,131 Yes, you know that. 748 00:50:38,102 --> 00:50:39,649 What about that night? 749 00:50:40,982 --> 00:50:41,883 Yes. 750 00:50:43,339 --> 00:50:45,359 You came home and let yourself in. 751 00:50:45,527 --> 00:50:48,645 And you found a stranger asleep at the kitchen table. 752 00:50:48,765 --> 00:50:50,595 Half naked, passed out, drunk. 753 00:50:50,715 --> 00:50:52,324 - No. - You lost control. 754 00:50:52,484 --> 00:50:54,204 - This is ridiculous. - You couldn't stand it. 755 00:50:54,379 --> 00:50:55,642 Your daughter having sex 756 00:50:55,803 --> 00:50:58,602 with a stranger in your house, how could she do this to you? 757 00:50:58,894 --> 00:51:00,599 How far below her mother's standards 758 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,039 - could she go? - Enough! 759 00:51:02,216 --> 00:51:04,197 - Dock officers! - Leave us alone! 760 00:51:04,377 --> 00:51:05,160 Us? 761 00:51:05,321 --> 00:51:08,579 - Mr Lloyd, please retake the stand. - Us? Your daughter is dead, Mr Lloyd. 762 00:51:09,059 --> 00:51:10,598 - This is wrong! - Wait. 763 00:51:11,022 --> 00:51:14,124 - Show the jury your hands. - This is not acceptable! 764 00:51:15,421 --> 00:51:17,716 Please return to the witness box, Mr Lloyd. 765 00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:21,080 You have to put it, Ms Kapoor. 766 00:51:22,452 --> 00:51:25,153 You have to put the allegation directly to the witness. 767 00:51:30,313 --> 00:51:31,588 You murdered her. 768 00:51:31,857 --> 00:51:33,184 You killed Melanie. 769 00:51:36,449 --> 00:51:37,599 I killed her? 770 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,859 If you believe 771 00:51:43,385 --> 00:51:45,694 that I put a knife in my own daughter... 772 00:51:48,791 --> 00:51:51,856 then I feel very, very sorry for you, young lady. 773 00:51:53,054 --> 00:51:54,407 God help you. 774 00:51:56,141 --> 00:51:57,101 Kill her? 775 00:51:57,262 --> 00:52:00,165 Are you mad? Has the world gone mad? 776 00:52:00,474 --> 00:52:03,370 This is upside-down justice. 777 00:52:03,490 --> 00:52:04,718 He's the killer. 778 00:52:04,838 --> 00:52:06,571 Explosive, righteous anger. 779 00:52:06,815 --> 00:52:09,969 Complete loss of control. Violence under pressure. 780 00:52:10,822 --> 00:52:11,977 Who's that, Mr Lloyd? 781 00:52:12,587 --> 00:52:13,450 Him 782 00:52:14,526 --> 00:52:15,343 or you? 783 00:52:24,916 --> 00:52:26,963 I did leave work early that night. 784 00:52:28,596 --> 00:52:30,266 But I never made it home. 785 00:52:33,083 --> 00:52:34,406 There was a woman. 786 00:52:35,575 --> 00:52:38,298 Her car had broken down right near where I work. 787 00:52:39,620 --> 00:52:41,936 She was scared. It was dark. 788 00:52:44,635 --> 00:52:46,113 If I'd have gone home, 789 00:52:46,696 --> 00:52:48,205 Mel wouldn't be dead. 790 00:52:52,871 --> 00:52:54,466 I could have saved her. 791 00:53:01,162 --> 00:53:03,933 Two Notices of Additional Evidence coming your way. 792 00:53:04,053 --> 00:53:06,514 One from the good lady whose Volvo broke down, 793 00:53:06,634 --> 00:53:10,596 and one from the gentleman representing the fourth emergency service. 794 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,366 Both will tell us of the Good Samaritan and what he was doing 795 00:53:14,486 --> 00:53:17,927 at the time you suggest, he was murdering his own daughter. 796 00:53:29,174 --> 00:53:31,829 We'll adjourn for the day, resume tomorrow at 10 o'clock. 797 00:53:33,763 --> 00:53:36,532 Members of the jury, please remember that it is vital 798 00:53:36,651 --> 00:53:40,133 that you do not discuss this case with anyone outside your number. 799 00:53:40,565 --> 00:53:42,199 Speeches in the morning. 800 00:54:18,919 --> 00:54:19,736 Mum... 801 00:54:21,752 --> 00:54:22,725 about uni... 802 00:54:22,845 --> 00:54:25,387 No, we don't need to talk about that now. 803 00:54:27,490 --> 00:54:28,897 Your dad and I, we... 804 00:54:30,608 --> 00:54:32,800 We want you to know how much we love you. 805 00:54:33,675 --> 00:54:34,556 And... 806 00:54:37,262 --> 00:54:39,327 We want you to know that there's nothing, 807 00:54:39,651 --> 00:54:43,070 nothing that you could do that would make us love you any less. 808 00:54:50,813 --> 00:54:52,756 Do you remember our little kitten? 809 00:54:55,638 --> 00:54:56,952 You were about 12. 810 00:54:58,541 --> 00:55:01,750 You didn't see me, but I saw you coming out of the house 811 00:55:02,051 --> 00:55:04,473 carrying something in your arms, and you... 812 00:55:05,191 --> 00:55:08,778 you laid it out in the middle of the road then you went back inside. 813 00:55:10,708 --> 00:55:11,749 And later, 814 00:55:12,284 --> 00:55:14,833 you told us how you'd heard the screeching of the brakes... 815 00:55:16,830 --> 00:55:19,140 and that you'd run outside and found it 816 00:55:20,316 --> 00:55:21,968 in the middle of the road. 817 00:55:23,353 --> 00:55:24,822 There were no signs 818 00:55:25,575 --> 00:55:28,920 that the kitten had been run over, but you stuck to your story. 819 00:55:38,496 --> 00:55:40,417 Mum, that was an accident. 820 00:55:41,152 --> 00:55:42,976 Of course it was an accident. 821 00:55:45,843 --> 00:55:47,192 You just panicked. 822 00:55:55,675 --> 00:55:57,190 You think I killed her. 823 00:55:58,171 --> 00:55:59,973 I'm saying I love you, Ben. 824 00:56:00,799 --> 00:56:02,749 And nothing will change that. 825 00:56:21,810 --> 00:56:24,761 What standard of proof does the prosecution need to reach 826 00:56:25,111 --> 00:56:26,489 before you can convict 827 00:56:26,648 --> 00:56:27,831 this defendant? 828 00:56:28,728 --> 00:56:30,036 You must be sure, 829 00:56:30,367 --> 00:56:32,047 beyond all reasonable doubt. 830 00:56:32,207 --> 00:56:33,678 I think you're going down. 831 00:56:34,171 --> 00:56:35,957 I want you to get used to that idea. 832 00:56:36,475 --> 00:56:38,604 What you are about to do now is probably 833 00:56:38,724 --> 00:56:41,763 the single most important duty you'll ever be asked to perform. 834 00:56:42,231 --> 00:56:43,993 You did not commit this murder. 835 00:56:44,307 --> 00:56:45,885 Why are you doing this? 836 00:56:48,419 --> 00:56:50,272 The stakes could not be higher. 837 00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:53,231 Now go and consider your verdict. 62056

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