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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,100 Lift off. 2 00:00:03,100 --> 00:00:07,600 Last century, humanity dared to dream about exploring space. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,360 We choose to go to the moon. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,820 APPLAUSE 5 00:00:10,820 --> 00:00:15,160 And over the next 50 years, we might dare to go further. 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,920 Where will we be in space in 2075? 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,640 Space can be explored and mastered. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,320 I want to see space continue 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,280 to be the way that John F Kennedy 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,600 hoped it would be. 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,400 This new ocean will be a sea of peace. 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,440 I hope we do explore other worlds, 13 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,400 but I hope that's not prioritised 14 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,440 over conserving what's here at home already. 15 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,480 I hope that in 50 years from now, we have established 16 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:41,440 a permanent presence on the moon... 17 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,600 The Eagle has landed. 18 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,520 ..and had the first humans landing on Mars. 19 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,080 I hope that international norms are established for the safe 20 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,920 and sustainable development of space for future generations. 21 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,080 We set sail on this new sea, 22 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,320 because there is new knowledge to be gained. 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,280 I want to see all the diversity 24 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,640 we have here on Earth 25 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,120 represented in space. 26 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,400 I hope that we'll have worked out a cheap way to get 27 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,880 to the outer solar system. 28 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,880 Now look into space, to the moon and to the planets beyond. 29 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,120 I hope we know if there's life somewhere in our solar system. 30 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,560 I hope our expansion into space will give us a new perspective on Earth. 31 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,120 Whether it will become a force for good or ill depends on man. 32 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,120 And what about you? Where do you hope we'll be in 2075? 33 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,840 Welcome. Welcome. 34 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,200 Welcome to The Sky At Night. 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,600 This autumn, the Royal Society, 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,000 the world's oldest scientific academy, 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,880 is publishing a new ground-breaking report 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,240 called Space: 2075. 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,480 We've been given exclusive access to find out all about it. 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,560 The report transports us into the future, 41 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,760 painting a mind-boggling picture of the year 2075. 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,640 Space elevators and reusable rockets taking us into orbit, 43 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:36,720 giant space-based solar panels beaming energy down to Earth, 44 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,720 and a permanent human presence on the lunar surface. 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,320 The development of new technology 46 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,920 and the growth of the commercial space sector 47 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:48,920 could make these extraordinary ideas a reality. 48 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:52,480 This rapid increase in space technologies has been compared 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,760 to the Industrial Revolution, 50 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,720 which changed our lives from rural farming communities 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,600 to urban mechanised ones. 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,960 That shift came with huge social and political reforms, 53 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,720 and we may need similar transformative changes 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,360 over the next 50 years, 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,880 as we become a more space-faring civilisation. 56 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,280 The Royal Society is calling upon decision-makers 57 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,760 to anticipate this dramatic change. 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,800 If humanity is to become interplanetary, 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,720 then we need to work together 60 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,360 and find out how we make it for the benefit of everyone. 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,920 Thankfully, there are already people around the world 62 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,440 who are working to tackle the big questions and challenges 63 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,120 of our future in space. 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,480 So, while I'm at he Royal Society, 65 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,240 Chris has headed to Cologne 66 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,160 to learn about a new European Space Agency project. 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,400 CHRIS: This is the European Astronaut Centre, 68 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,280 where astronauts from around the world 69 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,720 undergo extensive training 70 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,240 to prepare them for the trials and tribulations of space travel. 71 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,680 To be selected to train as an astronaut, 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,960 you have to meet a set of strict requirements 73 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,520 about your physical and mental health, 74 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,480 fitness and personality. 75 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,440 So how do we make space a place that's welcoming to all people 76 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,080 and not just a select few? 77 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,720 I'm meeting John McFall, 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,760 one of the newest members of ESA's astronaut reserve, 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,280 and the face of their pioneering new study, "Fly!". 80 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,560 He's taking me on a tour of the European Astronaut Centre's 81 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,000 state-of-the-art training facilities. 82 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,280 Well, this looks impressive. 83 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:39,120 So, Chris, yeah, this is the control room 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,000 for the Neutral Buoyancy Facility at the European Astronaut Centre, 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,920 and this is where the controller sits during the training that we do 86 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,800 in this awesome pool that we have. 87 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,640 A pool with a mock-up of... Is that the Columbus module? 88 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,080 It is, yeah. It's a life-size replica 89 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,040 of the European Space Agency's module 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,200 that's attached to the International Space Station. 91 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,120 We'll come back to that in a bit, 92 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,040 but how did you get here? 93 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,760 What brings you to the EAC? 94 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,520 Back in early 2021, 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,560 the European Space Agency put out a call 96 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,960 for a new class of astronauts. 97 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,000 But uniquely within that vacancy notice, 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,640 they were also recruiting for an astronaut 99 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,240 with a physical disability 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,920 to do a very bold study, 101 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,760 to look at would it be feasible to get an astronaut 102 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,760 with a physical disability to fly on a long-duration mission 103 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,200 to the International Space Station? 104 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,560 John is already a medal-winning Paralympian, 105 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,240 an orthopaedic surgeon, 106 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,640 and he can now add astronaut to that impressive list. 107 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,760 John McFall. 108 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,440 But going to space wasn't necessarily on his radar 109 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,680 as a young man. 110 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,560 I've always had a bit of an adventurous spirit, 111 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,080 and as a kid always wanted to join the army. 112 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,120 And then in 2000, I was travelling around the world 113 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,400 and unfortunately had a motorcycle accident 114 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,760 when in Thailand, 115 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,560 and ended up resulting in an amputation of my right leg. 116 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,520 And I couldn't fulfil my ambition of joining the army. 117 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,760 There were things about this opportunity 118 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,800 to do this feasibility study and potentially fly to space 119 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,920 that ticked a lot of the boxes that I had wanted to tick 120 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,920 as my 16, 17-year-old self wanting to join the army 121 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,920 but couldn't because of my physical disability. 122 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,520 The Fly! study aimed to assess the unique challenges involved 123 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,160 in getting John to the International Space Station - 124 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,480 from launch, to orbit, to landing. 125 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,000 Some of the exciting things that I've done have obviously... 126 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,280 Everybody knows about the Vomit Comet 127 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:34,680 or the parabolic flight. 128 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:41,280 So we looked at this in the context of would I be able to do CPR, 129 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:44,920 or cardiopulmonary resuscitation, in an emergency in microgravity? 130 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,560 And so we demonstrated that that was possible on a parabolic flight. 131 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,800 While being flown like this? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 132 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,640 John and his team used a combination of centrifuges, 133 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,360 parabolic flights and low gravity treadmills 134 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,080 to recreate weightlessness 135 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,200 and test how John and his body responded. 136 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,680 And this was just one small part of an extensive study. 137 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Hello, John. Hello. 138 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Welcome back to Earth. 139 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Thank you very much. Yeah, well done. 140 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,560 And how's it gone? 141 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,880 Very interestingly, to date, 142 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,880 we have found that there are no technical show stoppers 143 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,000 to flying someone with a physical disability like mine 144 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,080 to the International Space Station for a long-duration mission. 145 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,560 So this is news, right? Yeah. 146 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,360 This is a big deal, because it could have been that you came in 147 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,720 and two months in discovered that there's a vital bit of training 148 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,240 that you couldn't do. Exactly. 149 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,720 So it's really exciting to see what happens 150 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,760 in the next six to 12 months, and where we take it from here. 151 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,960 But there's one part of astronaut training 152 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,240 that John hasn't tackled yet. 153 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,120 The initial Fly! feasibility study didn't consider spacewalking, 154 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,400 so what we call EVA, extravehicular activity. 155 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,320 And lots of astronauts go to the space station 156 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:56,760 and never spacewalk, right? Exactly, yeah. 157 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,600 That's not weird. You know, so it got to the point, well, 158 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,320 could we consider EVA? 159 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,320 And so a legacy of the study, we're hoping, could be looking 160 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,280 into the potential of EVA. 161 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,520 While spacewalks are not yet part of the Fly! study, 162 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,640 today, John and his team are starting to think 163 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,440 about the impact that training in the European Astronaut Centre's 164 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,000 Neutral Buoyancy Facility might have on his body. 165 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,240 The facility makes use of buoyancy, 166 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,600 essentially floating, to recreate the feeling of weightlessness 167 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,520 for long periods of time. 168 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,080 So the astronauts can practise spacewalks underwater. 169 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,920 So, how was that? Yeah, it was good, thanks, Chris. 170 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,480 Prosthesis was comfortable in the water. Wet suit fine. 171 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Get the fins on the feet OK, so... Job done. 172 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,240 Let me take you this way and show you what else we have. Sure. 173 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,080 The European Astronaut Centre is also home to one-to-one replicas 174 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,720 of the modules on the International Space Station. 175 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,120 And today, I'm excited to get inside their replica 176 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,080 of ESA's Columbus laboratory. 177 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,160 So, where are we in the station? So, we're here. 178 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,080 We're right at the front of the International Space Station. 179 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,360 So this is Node 2. 180 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:15,520 And the space station is hurtling that way at, well, 27,500km an hour. 181 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,840 I like the speed limit sign. 182 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,440 Shall we go through? For sure, yeah. 183 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,400 I'm imagining I'm floating at this point. Yeah, yeah. 184 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,200 The Columbus module houses some of the most important experiments 185 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,800 for understanding how humans can live and work in space. 186 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,560 You know, when you look at the complexity of this space, 187 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:35,040 you can see why those questions in your study about manoeuvring 188 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,320 and stabilising yourself really come into play. 189 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,200 There's not a lot of space to play with in here. 190 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,240 There isn't, and there is a lot more equipment 191 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,280 that encroaches onto the free space. 192 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,000 Well, I'm pleased to have finally made it 193 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,720 into the European Columbus module, 194 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,560 so thanks for the tour. Shall we go back down to Earth? 195 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:50,600 Absolutely. 196 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,240 John looks right at home in the Columbus module, 197 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,120 and it's got me thinking about what comes next for him 198 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,120 and the Fly! study. 199 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,080 As we come towards the end of this study, 200 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,360 do you think one day you'll be floating around the real ISS? 201 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,120 I'd love to go to space, 202 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,760 and I do hope I get the opportunity to fly one day. 203 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,000 But what I've realised by doing this is that this is not about me. 204 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,240 This is about the future of space exploration. 205 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,880 Maybe we'll look back in 300 years from now 206 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,440 and say the first time someone tried to look at getting someone 207 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,640 with a physical disability to be an astronaut was here, 208 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,840 you know, in the 2020s. 209 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,440 And really, if we are going to be an interplanetary species, 210 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,080 we have to start somewhere. 211 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,840 I've got one final question, which is that I'm sure that somehow, 212 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,920 sometime soon, you're going to find yourself on a rocket heading to 213 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,480 space. Will you come and tell us about it when you've been? 214 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,560 Absolutely. I'd love to. Good. Then that's a deal. 215 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:49,080 Thank you very much. Pleasure. 216 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:57,280 Talking to John about his work has been truly inspirational. 217 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,040 Just the fact that major space agencies like ESA 218 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,480 are thinking about accessibility sends a powerful signal. 219 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,720 Maybe we really will have a future in which anyone can go to space. 220 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,960 Tower clear. 221 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,760 The prospect of getting more people to space is exciting. 222 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,680 There's a lot more to consider if we want to keep them there 223 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:19,680 for long periods of time. 224 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,320 MAGGIE: Nasa's Artemis mission is planning to build 225 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,520 a space station in orbit around the moon 226 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,080 and a permanent base on the moon's surface by around 2030. 227 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,920 And with the recent discoveries of caves on the moon 228 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,040 that could house a lunar base 229 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,480 and liquid water reservoirs on Mars, 230 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,920 humans living on other bodies in our solar system by 2075 231 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,400 feels like a very real possibility. 232 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,960 But the conditions these people will be living in 233 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,640 will be very different to anything we're used to here on Earth, 234 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,680 so keeping them healthy will not be simple. 235 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,200 I'm meeting doctor and space medicine expert Kevin Fong 236 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,800 to find out more. 237 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,800 Well, we're here at the Royal Society, 238 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,040 and they have a sort of fantastic background 239 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,560 in sort of medical research. 240 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,600 But can you tell me more about space medicine today? 241 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,720 We've got people on the International Space Station, 242 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,440 people sort of flying around in rockets. 243 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,120 What support do they need? 244 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,120 There's lots of minor things they need to deal with. 245 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,600 So, sickness - a lot of them feel sick. 246 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Sleep - they have a lot of sleep medications up there. 247 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,640 They have a few bits for serious emergencies, 248 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,360 like fires and the emergency decompressions, 249 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,840 and all of that is packed into a very small space. 250 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,640 And then the job of people like me on the ground, 251 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,440 who work with the space medicine teams, 252 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,080 is to design that kit so that it's basically idiot-proof. 253 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,960 OK! So even under pressure or whatever... 254 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,240 Even under pressure. Yes. 255 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,280 And you can talk them through it on the phone 256 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,560 or over a video link. 257 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:53,600 And, for me, it was such a great sort of thought experiment 258 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,840 of how do you take everything you know about medicine, 259 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,800 take it apart... Yes! ..remove gravity, 260 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,200 and remove your access to a hospital, 261 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,360 and then make sure it still works in the worst situation? 262 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,360 So that's why I loved doing it. 263 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Yes, yeah! Deconstructing medicine. 264 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,960 Astronauts are guided through medical procedures by doctors 265 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,400 like Kevin on the ground 266 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,560 and trained in how to treat their crewmates' minor medical issues. 267 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,760 In the worst-case scenario, 268 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,520 ISS astronauts can come home for medical care. 269 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,200 But they're only 250 miles away from us. 270 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,920 People living on a lunar base would be hundreds of thousands 271 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,240 of miles away from home. 272 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,920 And for Martian folk, it would be hundreds of millions. 273 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,600 Mars, shortest time is about six months to Mars, 274 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,880 can be as much as nine, and the same on the way back. 275 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:52,080 And then you're on the surface for either 30 days or a year or two. 276 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,560 Yes. There's no in-between, is there? So it's a peak, for the peak return. 277 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:56,520 Yeah, the buses are very infrequent. Yes! 278 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,600 And so then you've got a whole different set of issues, 279 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,280 because you're out there, 280 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,160 microgravity is chiselling away at your physiology, 281 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,800 your biology, and radiation is one of the big, big problems. 282 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,320 Because, as you know, we're outside the magnetosphere, 283 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,520 which gives us such substantial protection 284 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,720 from the high-energy particles. 285 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,760 And then goodness knows what you'd do 286 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,520 if something went wrong medically, 287 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,080 because your closest hospital might be as much as 288 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,600 three and a half years away. You need a lot of self-reliance. 289 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,720 You're restricted by weight and volume. 290 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,520 There's not much space for the medical kit, 291 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,360 so one of the sort of evolving possibilities 292 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,520 is that you might be able to 3D print your equipment, 293 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,000 which means that if you've just got a bag of some sort of substrate 294 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,680 and a 3D printer, and you can say you need this bit of kit. Scalpel! 295 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,480 SHE IMITATES PRINTER Exactly, well, exactly. 296 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,760 Yeah, yeah, dental drill and all the rest of it. 297 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,600 Protecting our bodies from the trials and tribulations 298 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,400 of space in the short-term is one thing, 299 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,480 but we're starting to think about staying in space for longer, 300 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,800 maybe even settling there, 301 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,960 and that brings whole new questions about health. 302 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,080 Physiology of people born in space, 303 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,160 what impact will that have on them? 304 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,000 They have done some very interesting experiments 305 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,240 where they've taken fish eggs up 306 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,960 and put them through an entire cycle of fertilisation 307 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,520 and then the birth of the fish, 308 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,320 and had the fish swim around in weightlessness, in these tanks. 309 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,800 And, of course, the fish don't develop with any sense of up, 310 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,840 down, left, right, because there is no up, down. Yes, yes. 311 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,000 So they kind of swim in very bizarre directions. 312 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,680 So if you are exposed to this space environment, 313 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,520 your body says, "Hey, this is what I've got. 314 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,880 "I don't need to do that. 315 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:36,960 "I don't need to have all this muscle. 316 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,200 "I don't need to have all this bone." 317 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,600 So people who are born in space one day will look very different 318 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,840 and be different physiologically. 319 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,080 The shape of their bodies, the way their bodies work 320 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,440 will be different from that which we have on Earth. 321 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,280 A child which grows up in space might learn to float 322 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,840 instead of crawl. 323 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,000 Their muscles would develop differently, 324 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,440 and an ultra-distribution of fluids in their body 325 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,640 would lead to a puffier face. 326 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,520 It's possible that they would be so adapted to space 327 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,680 that they could never live unaided on Earth. 328 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,320 Kevin, as always, it's been fantastic talking to you. 329 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,160 Great talking to you, as well. 330 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,880 Well, look forward to seeing you again soon. 331 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,800 See you later, Maggie. Take care. Lovely to see you. Thank you. 332 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,560 Human settlements in space are an incredible, 333 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,320 exciting goal for our future. 334 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,440 But we have to be able to get out of Earth's orbit first. 335 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,040 GEORGE: There are already millions of pieces 336 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,360 of space debris in orbit around our planet, 337 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,360 made up mostly of defunct satellites and pieces of rockets 338 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,680 that we've launched over the years. 339 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,840 As Earth's orbit gets more crowded, 340 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,200 the chance of a collision between two pieces 341 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,360 of space debris increases. 342 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,200 A single collision could start a chain reaction of collisions, 343 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,720 filling Earth's orbit with debris and making it harder and harder 344 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,400 to launch a rocket into space. 345 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Thankfully, companies and space agencies around the world 346 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,680 are starting to come up with clever solutions for dealing 347 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,000 with our crowded orbit. 348 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:08,200 I'm meeting Mekhi Dhesi from Astroscale to learn more. 349 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,280 I know that you guys work on space junk. 350 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,520 Yeah. And we hear this term a lot right now. Why is it a problem? 351 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,840 If you measure all the pieces of debris in orbit, 352 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,520 there is 130 million pieces of space debris 353 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,720 up in orbit right now. Ooh! 354 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,600 And everything in low Earth orbit is travelling super, super-fast. 355 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,400 Yeah. It travels 20 times faster than a bullet, 356 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,360 so even the tiniest piece of debris can cause a serious impact, 357 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:35,400 so it's potentially harmful to astronauts up in space. Yeah. 358 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,840 Only last year, a Russian satellite had a break-up. 359 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,840 They had to warn the astronauts on the ISS to take shelter 360 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,600 and potentially then go to their vehicles for a safe exit 361 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,520 of the ISS if it had collided with it. 362 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,920 And this also impacts potentially future space exploration, 363 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,640 because if there's so much junk hurtling around, 364 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,400 a spacecraft carrying astronauts up through orbit 365 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,400 might not be able to get past safely. 366 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,720 So we need to find a way to tackle the space debris 367 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,920 that's already up there, 368 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,200 but we also need to future-proof satellites that are yet to launch 369 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,640 to ensure the sustainable use of future space 370 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,880 for generations to come. 371 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,560 In 2021, Astroscale launched their first spacecraft, ELSA-d, 372 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,920 a test of their new magnetic docking system. 373 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,720 The aim was for a dummy piece of space debris, 374 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,720 pre-equipped with a magnetic disc, 375 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,440 to be captured by the ELSA-d spacecraft. 376 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,480 And the proof of concept worked. 377 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,480 Now, what's next? What's the future of this project? 378 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,320 So, what's next is the commercialisation of ELSA-d, 379 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,680 and we call this ELSA-M, 380 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,920 which stands for End-of-Life Services by Astroscale-Multiple. 381 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,200 So this really is the commercialisation 382 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,960 of the ELSA-d demonstration. 383 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,360 So, in 2026, we'll launch our satellite ELSA-M up into orbit 384 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,240 and it will then remove a failed satellite 385 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,960 that has already been pre-equipped with a docking plate. 386 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,800 The aim is that ELSA-M will tow space debris out of orbit 387 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,960 and release it in the upper stages of Earth's atmosphere, 388 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,440 where the pressure and heat will cause it to disintegrate. 389 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,240 ELSA-M will then return to pick up another piece of debris. 390 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,040 Today, I'm lucky enough to be shown around my very first clean room 391 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,240 where the ELSA-M spacecraft is being built. 392 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,960 Here we go. I can't believe I've been allowed in a clean room. 393 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,960 So I know this is where you guys are actually building ELSA-M? 394 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,520 That's right, but a lot of what we have in here at the moment 395 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,600 is commercially sensitive, as you can imagine. Yeah. 396 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,640 But there is something we can talk about right here. 397 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Yeah? One of the magnetic docking plates 398 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,880 that we were talking about earlier. 399 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,440 Yes! So it has these legs here that you can see, 400 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,680 and it attaches onto the side of a spacecraft. Yeah. 401 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,960 ELSA-M is designed for use on satellites 402 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,000 that have been equipped with this magnetic docking system 403 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,920 in advance. But we know there is so much debris already out there 404 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,400 with no magnets for ELSA-M to dock to, 405 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,560 but Astroscale hope their upcoming mission, Cosmic, 406 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,160 could solve this problem using similar technology to ELSA-M 407 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,160 but replacing the magnetic docking system with a robotic arm 408 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,040 that can grab on to debris. 409 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,880 However, both ELSA-M and Cosmic have a limitation. 410 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,080 So, the ELSA-M and the Cosmic missions, 411 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,160 they're designed for grabbing onto debris that's about the size 412 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,400 of a washing machine. Right. 413 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,160 But there are also really, really large pieces 414 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,480 of debris out there. 415 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,520 For example, sometimes upper stages of rocket bodies 416 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,880 are then left in orbit, and these can be about the size 417 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,160 and the weight of a London bus. 418 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,600 So there is a mission called ADRAS-J, 419 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,480 which stands for Active Debris Removal by Astroscale-Japan, 420 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,640 launched February 2024, 421 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,880 and it's going to inspect 422 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,320 one of these really large pieces of debris, 423 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,160 an upper stage rocket body. 424 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,840 And so ADRAS-J has now reached just 50 metres separation 425 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,000 and is managing to produce amazingly high-resolution images. 426 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,480 And in the future, then, this will inform a second-stage mission 427 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,560 where we can then go up and also safely remove it. 428 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,760 That's incredible! It's like you say - 429 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,800 50 metres in space terms is just nothing. 430 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,600 They may as well just be about to kiss! 431 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,680 That's, like, that's so close together. 432 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,320 These images captured by ADRAS-J 433 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,320 of an old rocket part hurtling through space 434 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,000 are sort of enchanting. 435 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,520 But they're also a reminder of the impact 436 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,160 we've already had on space, 437 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,400 and how we need to change the way we treat it in the future. 438 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,720 Thank you so much for allowing me in my very first clean room. 439 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,440 Thank you so much for coming by. No worries. 440 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,440 See you soon, hopefully. Bye! Bye-bye! 441 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,480 More satellites in orbit doesn't just mean more space debris. 442 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,480 It also changes our night sky here on Earth. 443 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,640 It can be a lot of fun tracking down a satellite 444 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,160 or spotting the International Space Station flying overhead. 445 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,880 I find it truly magical seeing the ISS, 446 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,920 a moving star with people living on it, 447 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,800 but an increasing number of objects in orbit 448 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,000 can also be a nuisance for amateur astronomers down here on Earth. 449 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,440 Deep-sky imaging is currently the worst affected, 450 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,320 and that's because the individual exposures tend to be many seconds, 451 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,280 or perhaps even minutes in length. 452 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,520 But satellites can also affect things like meteor photography, 453 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,520 where the trails mimic the appearance of meteors. 454 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,800 If you're heading out to watch the Draconid 455 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,720 or Orionid meteor showers coming up in October, 456 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,000 you'll want to keep an eye out for satellites. 457 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,960 You can see in these images how similar they look, 458 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,440 but you can distinguish between them in several ways - 459 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,680 by the satellite's lack of colour 460 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,320 and by their straight-line appearance, 461 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,040 as meteor trails tend to have 462 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,640 a definite shape to them. 463 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,520 And if you're taking continuous multi-second exposures, 464 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,600 a meteor trail will tend to appear on one frame, 465 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,280 whereas a satellite trail 466 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,880 will tend to be visible 467 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,680 moving over several frames. 468 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,920 As we make technological advances in space, 469 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,120 so amateur astrophotography has also been evolving, 470 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:14,120 providing solutions to help astrophotographers 471 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:16,800 remove satellite trails from their images. 472 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,640 With standard telescopes, 473 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,720 removing satellite trails requires you to take several different 474 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,320 exposures and then stack them in a way that removes 475 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,680 the satellite trail. 476 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,960 You can see an example of the process in these images 477 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,880 of the star cluster M53. 478 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,160 And now, with new smart telescope technology like this, 479 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,600 a user can select a target and set the telescope off. 480 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,720 The telescope will find the object, take all the necessary exposures, 481 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:56,920 stack the images, and automatically remove the satellite trails. 482 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,400 Smart telescope or not, 483 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,960 if you're looking for a good target this month, 484 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,480 there's a small partial lunar eclipse taking place 485 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,920 on the 18th of September, 486 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,080 and this is a special one 487 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,520 as it falls on 2024's harvest moon. 488 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,840 The best time to catch the eclipse 489 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,480 is around 03:00 to 04:15 BST, 490 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,720 when the moon will be moving 491 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,720 through the darkest part 492 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,160 of the Earth's shadow, 493 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,760 called the umbral shadow. 494 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,960 The darkest shading will appear 495 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,480 at the moon's north-east limb. 496 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,480 So, if you don't have a fancy smart telescope yet, don't fret. 497 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,200 There's still plenty to see. 498 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,040 I love the fact that technology is making astronomy more accessible, 499 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,120 but often the joy is in the searching, 500 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:46,560 looking for these objects in a sea of bright stars 501 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,120 and then finding them. 502 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,080 There's no finer feeling. 503 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,040 The prospect of our species reaching further 504 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:01,320 into that beautiful night sky is wondrous and inspiring. 505 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,400 But as we have seen tonight, not without its challenges. 506 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,640 Back at the Royal Society, 507 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,040 Maggie is meeting Professor Suzie Imber, 508 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:16,160 co-chair of the Space: 2075 report, to discuss the society's findings 509 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,760 on how humanity should tackle this next chapter 510 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,600 in space exploration. 511 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,560 MAGGIE: But my first question is why are you doing this report now, 512 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,200 and why 50 years? 513 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,000 Well, I think now is a really good time for this report to come out, 514 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,640 because we're experiencing this big acceleration in the space industry, 515 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,320 not just space agencies exploring space 516 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,880 but also a lot of commercial companies too. 517 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,200 That's kind of a good time for us to just pause and take stock 518 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,800 and think about where we'd like the future of space to be. 519 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,480 And, in a way, that links back to why we're doing 50 years. 520 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,640 It's much easier for us to look forward and try to design, 521 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,040 from the outset, 522 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,720 laws and legislation that leads us in the direction we want to go in, 523 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,720 rather than responding to incidents as they happen 524 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,880 and trying to make up laws and legislation as we go. 525 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:11,560 The space economy is expected to be worth $1.8 trillion by 2035 526 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,720 and space agencies like Nasa and ESA are relying more and more 527 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,520 on private companies for parts of their missions. 528 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,680 Commercialisation, especially when we talk about it in space, 529 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,880 it can be seen as a double-edged sword, 530 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,280 and I think an example would be space debris. 531 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,680 It seems some companies are putting a lot up there, 532 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,360 and some companies are trying to work out 533 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,600 how to get rid of space debris. 534 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,840 So, is there a way of doing it effectively, of doing it well? 535 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,600 I think space debris is a really good example, isn't it, 536 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,360 of thinking about commercialisation? 537 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,000 And, in a way, yes, there are some companies sending lots of things 538 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,320 into space, but that's needed for the business 539 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,960 that they're running and it's going to be of benefit to humanity. 540 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,240 And so there's a plus side there, but only if we have the regulation 541 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,760 in place to make sure that this is done ethically and sustainably. 542 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,000 It's not just satellites placed in space 543 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,840 that we need to carefully consider. 544 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,880 We also need to look at how we get people into space in a way 545 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,960 that is safe and beneficial to all of us. 546 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,400 So, I'm going to put it out there - the next 50 years, 547 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,880 do you think we'll have people on Mars? 548 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,640 Yeah, I do, actually. I do. 549 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,160 And I realise that people on Mars, it's always 30 years away, right? 550 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,560 I think 30 years ago we said... That rolling... 551 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,800 We said we'll have them there in 30 years and we haven't. 552 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,480 For good reason, I think, actually. 553 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,040 Before you send people anywhere, 554 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,920 we must understand the environment that we would be sending them into. 555 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,440 And so now we're finally reaching the phase, I think, 556 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,680 where we've sent orbiters, now we've sent landers and rovers 557 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,480 and really understanding the environment. 558 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,240 So, given how far we've come in the last 70 years, 559 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,520 in the next 50 years, we may well have the first boots on Mars. 560 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,440 I'm hoping they're mine, but we'll see! 561 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,960 THEY LAUGH I'd vote for you, Maggie. 562 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,840 So, having been one of the participators in generating 563 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,680 this report, what would you like people to take away from it? 564 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,880 I think I'd really like people to take away a sense of excitement 565 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,440 about what the future holds. 566 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,160 Because if you read the report, 567 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,880 there's so many amazing things 568 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,280 that we're talking about that 20 years ago 569 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,480 would have been impossible. 570 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,960 And many of these concepts come from science fiction. 571 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,760 They come from things that we will have read as young people. 572 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,280 And now, in the next 50 years, they're going to be a reality. 573 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,560 To find out more about the Royal Society's report, 574 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,160 you can sign up for information on their website. 575 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,160 You can also find great videos on other mind-bending 576 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,160 future space stuff on BBC Ideas. 577 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,520 The boundaries of humanity's ambitions in space seem to grow 578 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,160 wider year on year, from near the surface of our little globe 579 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,960 to the moon, to Mars and way beyond. 580 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,920 But the people we've met in today's episode 581 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,560 have given us a lot to think about 582 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,240 if we're to meet this future in a way that benefits us all. 583 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,560 Whatever happens between now and 2075, 584 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,240 you can keep up with space on The Sky At Night. Goodnight. 47168

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