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Lift off.
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Last century, humanity dared
to dream about exploring space.
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We choose to go to the moon.
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APPLAUSE
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And over the next 50 years,
we might dare to go further.
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Where will we be in space in 2075?
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Space can be explored and mastered.
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I want to see space continue
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to be the way that John F Kennedy
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hoped it would be.
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This new ocean will be
a sea of peace.
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I hope we do explore other worlds,
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but I hope that's not prioritised
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over conserving what's here
at home already.
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I hope that in 50 years from now,
we have established
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a permanent presence
on the moon...
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The Eagle has landed.
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..and had the first humans
landing on Mars.
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I hope that international norms
are established for the safe
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and sustainable development of space
for future generations.
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We set sail on this new sea,
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because there is new knowledge
to be gained.
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I want to see all the diversity
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we have here on Earth
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represented in space.
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I hope that we'll have worked
out a cheap way to get
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to the outer solar system.
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Now look into space, to the moon
and to the planets beyond.
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I hope we know if there's life
somewhere in our solar system.
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I hope our expansion into space will
give us a new perspective on Earth.
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Whether it will become a force
for good or ill depends on man.
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And what about you?
Where do you hope we'll be in 2075?
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Welcome. Welcome.
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Welcome to The Sky At Night.
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This autumn, the Royal Society,
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the world's oldest scientific
academy,
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is publishing
a new ground-breaking report
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called Space: 2075.
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We've been given exclusive access
to find out all about it.
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The report transports us
into the future,
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painting a mind-boggling
picture of the year 2075.
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Space elevators and reusable
rockets taking us into orbit,
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giant space-based solar panels
beaming energy down to Earth,
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and a permanent human presence
on the lunar surface.
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The development of new technology
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and the growth of
the commercial space sector
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could make these
extraordinary ideas a reality.
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This rapid increase in space
technologies has been compared
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to the Industrial Revolution,
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which changed our lives from
rural farming communities
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to urban mechanised ones.
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That shift came with huge
social and political reforms,
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and we may need similar
transformative changes
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over the next 50 years,
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as we become a more
space-faring civilisation.
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The Royal Society is calling
upon decision-makers
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to anticipate this dramatic change.
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If humanity is to become
interplanetary,
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then we need to work together
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and find out how we make it
for the benefit of everyone.
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Thankfully, there are already people
around the world
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who are working to tackle
the big questions and challenges
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of our future in space.
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So, while I'm at he Royal Society,
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Chris has headed to Cologne
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to learn about a new
European Space Agency project.
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CHRIS: This is
the European Astronaut Centre,
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where astronauts
from around the world
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undergo extensive training
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to prepare them for the trials
and tribulations of space travel.
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To be selected to train
as an astronaut,
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you have to meet
a set of strict requirements
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about your physical
and mental health,
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fitness and personality.
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So how do we make space a place
that's welcoming to all people
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and not just a select few?
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I'm meeting John McFall,
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one of the newest members
of ESA's astronaut reserve,
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and the face of
their pioneering new study, "Fly!".
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He's taking me on a tour
of the European Astronaut Centre's
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state-of-the-art training
facilities.
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Well, this looks impressive.
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So, Chris, yeah,
this is the control room
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for the Neutral Buoyancy Facility
at the European Astronaut Centre,
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and this is where the controller
sits during the training that we do
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in this awesome pool that we have.
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A pool with a mock-up of...
Is that the Columbus module?
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It is, yeah.
It's a life-size replica
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of the European Space Agency's
module
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that's attached to
the International Space Station.
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We'll come back to that in a bit,
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but how did you get here?
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What brings you to the EAC?
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Back in early 2021,
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the European Space Agency
put out a call
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for a new class of astronauts.
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But uniquely within that
vacancy notice,
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they were also recruiting
for an astronaut
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with a physical disability
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to do a very bold study,
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to look at would it be feasible
to get an astronaut
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with a physical disability to fly
on a long-duration mission
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to the International Space Station?
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John is already a medal-winning
Paralympian,
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an orthopaedic surgeon,
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and he can now add astronaut
to that impressive list.
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John McFall.
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But going to space
wasn't necessarily on his radar
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as a young man.
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I've always had a bit of
an adventurous spirit,
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and as a kid
always wanted to join the army.
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And then in 2000, I was travelling
around the world
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and unfortunately
had a motorcycle accident
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when in Thailand,
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and ended up resulting in
an amputation of my right leg.
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And I couldn't fulfil my ambition
of joining the army.
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There were things about this
opportunity
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to do this feasibility study
and potentially fly to space
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that ticked a lot of the boxes
that I had wanted to tick
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as my 16, 17-year-old self wanting
to join the army
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but couldn't
because of my physical disability.
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The Fly! study aimed to assess
the unique challenges involved
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in getting John to
the International Space Station -
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from launch, to orbit, to landing.
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Some of the exciting things
that I've done have obviously...
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Everybody knows about
the Vomit Comet
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or the parabolic flight.
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So we looked at this in the context
of would I be able to do CPR,
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or cardiopulmonary resuscitation,
in an emergency in microgravity?
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And so we demonstrated that that was
possible on a parabolic flight.
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While being flown like this?
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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John and his team used a combination
of centrifuges,
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parabolic flights
and low gravity treadmills
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to recreate weightlessness
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and test how John
and his body responded.
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And this was just one small part
of an extensive study.
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Hello, John. Hello.
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Welcome back to Earth.
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Thank you very much.
Yeah, well done.
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And how's it gone?
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Very interestingly, to date,
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we have found that there are
no technical show stoppers
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to flying someone with
a physical disability like mine
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to the International Space Station
for a long-duration mission.
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So this is news, right?
Yeah.
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This is a big deal, because it could
have been that you came in
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and two months in discovered that
there's a vital bit of training
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that you couldn't do. Exactly.
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So it's really exciting to see
what happens
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in the next six to 12 months,
and where we take it from here.
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But there's one part of
astronaut training
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that John hasn't tackled yet.
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The initial Fly! feasibility study
didn't consider spacewalking,
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so what we call EVA,
extravehicular activity.
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And lots of astronauts go to
the space station
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and never spacewalk, right?
Exactly, yeah.
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That's not weird. You know,
so it got to the point, well,
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could we consider EVA?
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And so a legacy of the study,
we're hoping, could be looking
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into the potential of EVA.
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While spacewalks are not
yet part of the Fly! study,
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today, John and his team
are starting to think
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about the impact that training
in the European Astronaut Centre's
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Neutral Buoyancy Facility
might have on his body.
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The facility makes use of buoyancy,
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essentially floating, to recreate
the feeling of weightlessness
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for long periods of time.
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So the astronauts can practise
spacewalks underwater.
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So, how was that? Yeah, it was good,
thanks, Chris.
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Prosthesis was comfortable
in the water. Wet suit fine.
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Get the fins on the feet OK, so...
Job done.
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Let me take you this way and show
you what else we have. Sure.
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The European Astronaut Centre
is also home to one-to-one replicas
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of the modules on
the International Space Station.
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And today, I'm excited to get
inside their replica
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of ESA's Columbus laboratory.
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So, where are we in the station?
So, we're here.
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We're right at the front
of the International Space Station.
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So this is Node 2.
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And the space station is hurtling
that way at, well, 27,500km an hour.
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I like the speed limit sign.
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Shall we go through?
For sure, yeah.
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I'm imagining I'm floating
at this point. Yeah, yeah.
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The Columbus module houses some
of the most important experiments
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for understanding how humans
can live and work in space.
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You know, when you look at
the complexity of this space,
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you can see why those questions
in your study about manoeuvring
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and stabilising yourself
really come into play.
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There's not a lot of space
to play with in here.
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There isn't,
and there is a lot more equipment
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that encroaches onto the free space.
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Well, I'm pleased
to have finally made it
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into the European Columbus module,
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so thanks for the tour.
Shall we go back down to Earth?
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Absolutely.
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John looks right at home
in the Columbus module,
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and it's got me thinking
about what comes next for him
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and the Fly! study.
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As we come towards
the end of this study,
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do you think one day you'll be
floating around the real ISS?
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I'd love to go to space,
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and I do hope I get the opportunity
to fly one day.
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But what I've realised by doing
this is that this is not about me.
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This is about the future
of space exploration.
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Maybe we'll look back in 300 years
from now
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and say the first time someone
tried to look at getting someone
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with a physical disability
to be an astronaut was here,
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you know, in the 2020s.
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And really, if we are going
to be an interplanetary species,
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we have to start somewhere.
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I've got one final question,
which is that I'm sure that somehow,
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sometime soon, you're going to find
yourself on a rocket heading to
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space. Will you come and tell us
about it when you've been?
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Absolutely. I'd love to.
Good. Then that's a deal.
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Thank you very much. Pleasure.
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Talking to John about his work
has been truly inspirational.
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Just the fact that major space
agencies like ESA
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are thinking about accessibility
sends a powerful signal.
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Maybe we really will have a future
in which anyone can go to space.
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Tower clear.
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The prospect of getting more people
to space is exciting.
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There's a lot more to consider
if we want to keep them there
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for long periods of time.
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MAGGIE: Nasa's Artemis mission
is planning to build
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a space station in orbit
around the moon
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and a permanent base on the moon's
surface by around 2030.
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And with the recent discoveries
of caves on the moon
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that could house a lunar base
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and liquid water reservoirs
on Mars,
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humans living on other bodies
in our solar system by 2075
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feels like a very real possibility.
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But the conditions these people
will be living in
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will be very different to anything
we're used to here on Earth,
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so keeping them healthy
will not be simple.
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I'm meeting doctor and space
medicine expert Kevin Fong
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to find out more.
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Well, we're here
at the Royal Society,
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and they have a sort
of fantastic background
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in sort of medical research.
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But can you tell me more about
space medicine today?
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We've got people
on the International Space Station,
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people sort of flying
around in rockets.
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What support do they need?
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There's lots of minor things
they need to deal with.
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So, sickness - a lot of them
feel sick.
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Sleep - they have a lot of
sleep medications up there.
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They have a few bits for serious
emergencies,
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like fires
and the emergency decompressions,
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and all of that is packed
into a very small space.
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And then the job of people like me
on the ground,
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who work with
the space medicine teams,
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is to design that kit
so that it's basically idiot-proof.
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OK! So even under pressure
or whatever...
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Even under pressure. Yes.
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And you can talk them through it
on the phone
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or over a video link.
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And, for me, it was such a great
sort of thought experiment
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of how do you take everything
you know about medicine,
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take it apart... Yes!
..remove gravity,
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and remove your access
to a hospital,
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and then make sure it
still works in the worst situation?
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So that's why I loved doing it.
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Yes, yeah!
Deconstructing medicine.
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Astronauts are guided through
medical procedures by doctors
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like Kevin on the ground
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and trained in how to treat their
crewmates' minor medical issues.
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In the worst-case scenario,
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ISS astronauts can come home
for medical care.
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But they're only 250 miles
away from us.
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People living on a lunar base
would be hundreds of thousands
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of miles away from home.
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And for Martian folk,
it would be hundreds of millions.
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Mars, shortest time is about
six months to Mars,
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can be as much as nine,
and the same on the way back.
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And then you're on the surface
for either 30 days or a year or two.
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Yes. There's no in-between, is there?
So it's a peak, for the peak return.
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Yeah, the buses are very infrequent.
Yes!
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And so then you've got a whole
different set of issues,
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because you're out there,
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microgravity is chiselling
away at your physiology,
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your biology, and radiation is one
of the big, big problems.
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Because, as you know,
we're outside the magnetosphere,
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which gives us
such substantial protection
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from the high-energy particles.
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And then goodness knows
what you'd do
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if something went wrong medically,
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because your closest hospital
might be as much as
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three and a half years away.
You need a lot of self-reliance.
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You're restricted by weight
and volume.
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There's not much space
for the medical kit,
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so one of the sort of evolving
possibilities
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is that you might be able to
3D print your equipment,
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which means that if you've just got
a bag of some sort of substrate
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and a 3D printer, and you can say
you need this bit of kit. Scalpel!
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SHE IMITATES PRINTER
Exactly, well, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, dental drill
and all the rest of it.
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Protecting our bodies
from the trials and tribulations
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of space in the short-term
is one thing,
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but we're starting to think
about staying in space for longer,
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maybe even settling there,
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and that brings whole new questions
about health.
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Physiology of people
born in space,
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what impact will that have on them?
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They have done
some very interesting experiments
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where they've taken fish eggs up
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and put them through
an entire cycle of fertilisation
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and then the birth of the fish,
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and had the fish swim around
in weightlessness, in these tanks.
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And, of course, the fish
don't develop with any sense of up,
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down, left, right, because
there is no up, down. Yes, yes.
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So they kind of swim
in very bizarre directions.
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So if you are exposed to
this space environment,
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your body says,
"Hey, this is what I've got.
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"I don't need to do that.
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"I don't need to have all
this muscle.
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"I don't need to have all
this bone."
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So people who are born in space
one day will look very different
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and be different physiologically.
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The shape of their bodies,
the way their bodies work
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will be different from that
which we have on Earth.
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A child which grows up in space
might learn to float
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instead of crawl.
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Their muscles would develop
differently,
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and an ultra-distribution of fluids
in their body
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would lead to a puffier face.
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It's possible that they would be
so adapted to space
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that they could never live
unaided on Earth.
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Kevin, as always, it's been
fantastic talking to you.
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Great talking to you, as well.
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Well, look forward to seeing
you again soon.
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See you later, Maggie. Take care.
Lovely to see you. Thank you.
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Human settlements in space
are an incredible,
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exciting goal for our future.
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But we have to be able to get
out of Earth's orbit first.
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GEORGE: There are already millions
of pieces
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of space debris in orbit
around our planet,
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made up mostly of defunct satellites
and pieces of rockets
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that we've launched over the years.
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As Earth's orbit gets more crowded,
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the chance of a collision
between two pieces
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of space debris increases.
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A single collision could start
a chain reaction of collisions,
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filling Earth's orbit with debris
and making it harder and harder
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to launch a rocket into space.
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Thankfully, companies
and space agencies around the world
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are starting to come up with
clever solutions for dealing
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with our crowded orbit.
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I'm meeting Mekhi Dhesi
from Astroscale to learn more.
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I know that you guys work
on space junk.
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Yeah. And we hear this term
a lot right now. Why is it a problem?
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If you measure all the pieces
of debris in orbit,
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there is 130 million pieces
of space debris
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up in orbit right now. Ooh!
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And everything in low Earth orbit
is travelling super, super-fast.
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Yeah. It travels 20 times faster
than a bullet,
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so even the tiniest piece of debris
can cause a serious impact,
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so it's potentially harmful
to astronauts up in space. Yeah.
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Only last year,
a Russian satellite had a break-up.
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They had to warn the astronauts
on the ISS to take shelter
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and potentially then go
to their vehicles for a safe exit
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of the ISS if it had collided
with it.
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And this also impacts potentially
future space exploration,
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because if there's so much junk
hurtling around,
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a spacecraft carrying astronauts
up through orbit
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might not be able
to get past safely.
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So we need to find a way to tackle
the space debris
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that's already up there,
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but we also need to future-proof
satellites that are yet to launch
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to ensure the sustainable
use of future space
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for generations to come.
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In 2021, Astroscale launched
their first spacecraft, ELSA-d,
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a test of their new magnetic
docking system.
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The aim was for a dummy piece
of space debris,
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pre-equipped
with a magnetic disc,
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to be captured
by the ELSA-d spacecraft.
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And the proof
of concept worked.
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Now, what's next? What's the future
of this project?
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So, what's next
is the commercialisation of ELSA-d,
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and we call this ELSA-M,
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which stands for End-of-Life
Services by Astroscale-Multiple.
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So this really
is the commercialisation
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of the ELSA-d demonstration.
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So, in 2026, we'll launch our
satellite ELSA-M up into orbit
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and it will then remove
a failed satellite
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that has already been pre-equipped
with a docking plate.
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The aim is that ELSA-M will tow
space debris out of orbit
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and release it in the upper stages
of Earth's atmosphere,
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where the pressure and heat
will cause it to disintegrate.
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ELSA-M will then return to pick up
another piece of debris.
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Today, I'm lucky enough to be shown
around my very first clean room
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where the ELSA-M spacecraft
is being built.
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Here we go. I can't believe
I've been allowed in a clean room.
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So I know this is where you guys
are actually building ELSA-M?
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That's right, but a lot of what
we have in here at the moment
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is commercially sensitive,
as you can imagine. Yeah.
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But there is something we can talk
about right here.
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Yeah? One of the magnetic
docking plates
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that we were talking about earlier.
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Yes! So it has these legs here
that you can see,
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and it attaches onto
the side of a spacecraft. Yeah.
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ELSA-M is designed for use
on satellites
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that have been equipped
with this magnetic docking system
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in advance. But we know there is so
much debris already out there
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with no magnets
for ELSA-M to dock to,
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but Astroscale hope
their upcoming mission, Cosmic,
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could solve this problem
using similar technology to ELSA-M
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but replacing the magnetic
docking system with a robotic arm
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that can grab on to debris.
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However, both ELSA-M and Cosmic
have a limitation.
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So, the ELSA-M
and the Cosmic missions,
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they're designed for grabbing
onto debris that's about the size
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of a washing machine. Right.
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But there are also really,
really large pieces
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of debris out there.
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For example, sometimes upper stages
of rocket bodies
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are then left in orbit,
and these can be about the size
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and the weight of a London bus.
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So there is a mission called
ADRAS-J,
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which stands for Active Debris
Removal by Astroscale-Japan,
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launched February 2024,
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and it's going to inspect
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one of these really large pieces
of debris,
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an upper stage rocket body.
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And so ADRAS-J has now reached
just 50 metres separation
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and is managing to produce amazingly
high-resolution images.
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And in the future, then, this will
inform a second-stage mission
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where we can then go up
and also safely remove it.
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That's incredible!
It's like you say -
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50 metres in space terms is just
nothing.
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They may as well just be
about to kiss!
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That's, like, that's so close
together.
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These images captured by ADRAS-J
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of an old rocket part
hurtling through space
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are sort of enchanting.
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But they're also a reminder
of the impact
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we've already had on space,
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and how we need to change the way
we treat it in the future.
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Thank you so much for allowing me
in my very first clean room.
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Thank you so much for coming by.
No worries.
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See you soon, hopefully.
Bye! Bye-bye!
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More satellites in orbit doesn't
just mean more space debris.
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It also changes
our night sky here on Earth.
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It can be a lot of fun tracking
down a satellite
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or spotting the International Space
Station flying overhead.
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I find it truly magical seeing
the ISS,
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a moving star with people
living on it,
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but an increasing
number of objects in orbit
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can also be a nuisance for amateur
astronomers down here on Earth.
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Deep-sky imaging is currently
the worst affected,
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and that's because the individual
exposures tend to be many seconds,
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or perhaps even minutes in length.
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But satellites can also affect
things like meteor photography,
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where the trails mimic
the appearance of meteors.
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If you're heading out to watch
the Draconid
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or Orionid meteor
showers coming up in October,
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you'll want to keep an eye
out for satellites.
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You can see in these images
how similar they look,
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but you can distinguish between them
in several ways -
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by the satellite's lack of colour
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and by their straight-line
appearance,
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as meteor trails tend to have
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a definite shape to them.
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And if you're taking continuous
multi-second exposures,
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a meteor trail will tend to appear
on one frame,
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whereas a satellite trail
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will tend to be visible
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moving over several frames.
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As we make technological advances
in space,
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so amateur astrophotography
has also been evolving,
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providing solutions
to help astrophotographers
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remove satellite trails
from their images.
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With standard telescopes,
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removing satellite trails requires
you to take several different
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exposures and then stack
them in a way that removes
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the satellite trail.
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You can see an example of
the process in these images
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of the star cluster M53.
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And now, with new smart telescope
technology like this,
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a user can select a target
and set the telescope off.
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The telescope will find the object,
take all the necessary exposures,
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stack the images, and automatically
remove the satellite trails.
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Smart telescope or not,
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if you're looking for a good target
this month,
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there's a small partial
lunar eclipse taking place
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on the 18th of September,
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and this is a special one
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as it falls on 2024's harvest moon.
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The best time to catch the eclipse
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is around 03:00 to 04:15 BST,
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when the moon will be moving
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through the darkest part
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of the Earth's shadow,
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called the umbral shadow.
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The darkest shading will appear
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at the moon's north-east limb.
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So, if you don't have a fancy
smart telescope yet, don't fret.
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There's still plenty to see.
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00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,040
I love the fact that technology
is making astronomy more accessible,
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but often the joy
is in the searching,
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looking for these objects
in a sea of bright stars
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and then finding them.
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00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,080
There's no finer feeling.
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00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,040
The prospect of our species
reaching further
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00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:01,320
into that beautiful night sky
is wondrous and inspiring.
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00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,400
But as we have seen tonight,
not without its challenges.
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00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,640
Back at the Royal Society,
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Maggie is meeting
Professor Suzie Imber,
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00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:16,160
co-chair of the Space: 2075 report,
to discuss the society's findings
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00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,760
on how humanity should tackle
this next chapter
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00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,600
in space exploration.
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00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,560
MAGGIE: But my first question is
why are you doing this report now,
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and why 50 years?
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00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,000
Well, I think now is a really good
time for this report to come out,
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because we're experiencing this big
acceleration in the space industry,
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not just space agencies
exploring space
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but also a lot
of commercial companies too.
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00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,200
That's kind of a good time for us
to just pause and take stock
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00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,800
and think about where we'd like
the future of space to be.
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00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,480
And, in a way, that links back to
why we're doing 50 years.
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00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,640
It's much easier for us to look
forward and try to design,
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00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,040
from the outset,
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00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,720
laws and legislation that leads us
in the direction we want to go in,
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00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,720
rather than responding to incidents
as they happen
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00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,880
and trying to make up laws
and legislation as we go.
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00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:11,560
The space economy is expected
to be worth $1.8 trillion by 2035
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00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,720
and space agencies like Nasa and ESA
are relying more and more
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00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,520
on private companies for parts
of their missions.
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00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,680
Commercialisation, especially when
we talk about it in space,
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00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,880
it can be seen
as a double-edged sword,
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00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,280
and I think an example
would be space debris.
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It seems some companies are putting
a lot up there,
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00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,360
and some companies
are trying to work out
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00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,600
how to get rid of space debris.
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00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,840
So, is there a way of doing it
effectively, of doing it well?
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00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,600
I think space debris
is a really good example, isn't it,
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00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,360
of thinking about commercialisation?
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00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,000
And, in a way, yes, there are some
companies sending lots of things
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00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,320
into space, but that's needed
for the business
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00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,960
that they're running and it's going
to be of benefit to humanity.
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00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,240
And so there's a plus side there,
but only if we have the regulation
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00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,760
in place to make sure that this is
done ethically and sustainably.
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00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,000
It's not just satellites
placed in space
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00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,840
that we need to carefully consider.
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00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,880
We also need to look at how we get
people into space in a way
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00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,960
that is safe and beneficial
to all of us.
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00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,400
So, I'm going to put it out there -
the next 50 years,
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do you think we'll have people
on Mars?
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00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,640
Yeah, I do, actually. I do.
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00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,160
And I realise that people on Mars,
it's always 30 years away, right?
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00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,560
I think 30 years ago we said...
That rolling...
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00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,800
We said we'll have them there
in 30 years and we haven't.
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00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,480
For good reason, I think, actually.
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00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,040
Before you send people anywhere,
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00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,920
we must understand the environment
that we would be sending them into.
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00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,440
And so now we're finally reaching
the phase, I think,
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00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,680
where we've sent orbiters, now
we've sent landers and rovers
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00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,480
and really understanding
the environment.
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00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,240
So, given how far we've come
in the last 70 years,
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00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,520
in the next 50 years, we may well
have the first boots on Mars.
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00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,440
I'm hoping they're mine,
but we'll see!
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00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,960
THEY LAUGH
I'd vote for you, Maggie.
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00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,840
So, having been one
of the participators in generating
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00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,680
this report, what would you
like people to take away from it?
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00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,880
I think I'd really like people
to take away a sense of excitement
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00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,440
about what the future holds.
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00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,160
Because if you read the report,
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00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,880
there's so many amazing things
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00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,280
that we're talking about
that 20 years ago
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00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,480
would have been impossible.
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00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,960
And many of these concepts
come from science fiction.
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00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,760
They come from things that we will
have read as young people.
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00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,280
And now, in the next 50 years,
they're going to be a reality.
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00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,560
To find out more about
the Royal Society's report,
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00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,160
you can sign up for information
on their website.
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00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,160
You can also find great videos
on other mind-bending
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00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,160
future space stuff on BBC Ideas.
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00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,520
The boundaries of humanity's
ambitions in space seem to grow
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00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,160
wider year on year, from near the
surface of our little globe
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00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,960
to the moon, to Mars and way beyond.
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00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,920
But the people we've met in
today's episode
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have given us a lot to think about
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00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,240
if we're to meet this future
in a way that benefits us all.
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00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,560
Whatever happens between now
and 2075,
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00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,240
you can keep up with space
on The Sky At Night. Goodnight.
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