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-Jury selection for the trial
of Robert Chambers
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was scheduled to begin today.
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-This was one of the most
high-profile trials
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in New York history.
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It just exploded.
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It was like a tsunami.
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-In the coming weeks,
the agony for both families
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will undoubtedly increase.
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-I wasn't even thinking I could
go to the trial.
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-Jack Litman planted
a seed in the media
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that Robert Chambers was
a devout Irish Catholic,
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that Jennifer Levin
was fast and loose.
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-By dragging it out,
the word "sex diary" became
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as well-known to the public
as "rough sex."
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Judge Bell stunned us by saying
DNA isn't reliable.
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-Whatever we came up with
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was not allowed into the court.
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Were we frustrated?
Totally!
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-We did not have a clear motive.
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We were working from nothing.
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-I never really had
an understanding
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of Robert Chambers.
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Why did he kill her?
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Why? Why did this happen?
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We have to look for answers.
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So, then when
the Preppy Murder trial starts,
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I think, "Ah! Finally!"
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-The case known as
the Preppy Murder trial
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began 19 months ago
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when the body of 18-year-old
Jennifer Levin was found
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behind the Metropolitan Museum
in Central Park.
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-It was a sweltering
August morning
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a year and a half ago.
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Jennifer Levin's life
ended violently.
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-The Robert Chambers murder
trial officially began today.
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This trial is expected to last
six to eight weeks.
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-Hey, hey, hey!
[Indistinct talking]
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-Are you guilty of murder?
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-I couldn't believe
the amount of press
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that was at this trial,
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from all over the world.
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[Camera shutters click]
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-The 6'4" 20-year-old arrived
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with his lawyer, Jack Litman.
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Present in the courtroom
were his parents
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and, at least,
two young friends.
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-There's been some question of
how the Chambers family afforded
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to retain a fancy lawyer
like Jack Litman.
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My understanding is that
whatever the Chambers family
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was able to do for legal fees,
Jack accepted.
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This was a challenging,
fascinating, high-profile case,
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and he wanted it.
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-Through much of today,
Ellen Levin, Jennifer's mother,
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held the hand
of her other daughter.
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-It was an amazingly
tense time for us.
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It's bad enough to lose somebody
to a violent crime,
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but then it's that much worse
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to go through a horrible trial.
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-We were suddenly thrust into
being like, in a sick way,
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some kind of celebrities,
you know?
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Like, "There's the mother!
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There's the father!
There's the sister!"
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We couldn't grieve.
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-Jennifer's father, Steve,
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cried when his daughter's death
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was recounted by prosecutor
Linda Fairstein.
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-I was keenly aware
that this was the biggest case
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of its kind in the city
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and was being played out
on the national stage.
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I was nervous and anxious
about the outcome
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and how the evidence
will unfold.
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I had everybody's expectations
to uphold.
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-The Levin and Chambers families
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sat quietly on separate sides
of the courtroom
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as Assistant District Attorney
Linda Fairstein described
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the early morning hours
of August 26, 1986.
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-She began her remarks
by saying,
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"Jennifer Levin is dead,
but don't lose sight of the fact
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there is only one victim
in this case."
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-One of the first pieces
of evidence that I introduced
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was the photograph
of Jennifer Levin at Dorrian's,
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and the most striking thing is,
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her long, pretty neck
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was completely blemish-free.
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There wasn't a mark on it.
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I put it on an easel,
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and I tried to keep this picture
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in front of that jury.
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I needed Jennifer to
become alive to that jury
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for them to see her
as the loving daughter,
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great student, lots of friends,
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living, vibrant, happy --
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not just the dead girl
in the courtroom.
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-In a dramatic whisper,
Fairstein ended
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her opening statement,
saying to the jury,
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"Don't make the same mistake
Jennifer Levin did.
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Don't trust this defendant."
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-Linda Fairstein blew up
pictures of Jennifer Levin
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with her friends.
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It did cause a lot of emotion.
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I did spend time
looking at Robert,
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trying to see what was
going on in his mind.
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He didn't show any emotion.
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He just sat there with
his hands folded on the table
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and just staring right ahead.
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-There was just this...
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vacant stare.
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Is there some sort
of drug problem there?
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I don't know.
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I couldn't understand why people
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found him so attractive,
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because there seemed
to be something wrong.
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-I just felt that
I had to contain myself
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from hurting him.
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It was a terrible atmosphere.
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-The first witness to be called
is expected to be the bicyclist
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who discovered
Jennifer Levin's body
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in Central Park.
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-Clearly, I did not want
to be in the newspapers.
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I didn't want to be
an object of the press.
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So, I asked if we could
go in some way
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that I wouldn't be
in front of all the cameras.
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They took me to a back elevator.
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And when I got on the elevator,
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Robert Chambers was probably
less than a foot away from me...
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-Oh, no.
[Laughter]
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-...which I found
incredibly disturbing.
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♪♪
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That day that I found
Jennifer Levin
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changed the trajectory
of my life.
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♪♪
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Trauma resonates with you.
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I still felt a kindred
connection to her.
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[Voice breaking] Still --
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I'm sorry.
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[Sniffles]
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It still sticks with me.
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♪♪
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-On cross-examination,
defense attorney
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Jack Litman questioned Reilly.
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"Are you sure of the position
of the body?"
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-When Jack Litman approached me,
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he said to me,
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"How far were you
from Jennifer Levin?"
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And I said, "Well, I'm not
really very good with feet."
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He says, "But you play golf.
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Don't you know the difference
between a 12-foot putt
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and like a 3-foot putt?"
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Why does he know I play golf,
you know?
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There was an air about him
of self-confidence,
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but it bordered on obnoxious.
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That's how he ran.
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-When Jack came on,
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everybody whispered,
"Here comes the show."
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And that's what it was.
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-Boy, oh, boy,
was he mesmerizing.
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The guy was so charismatic,
smart,
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and Jack had a number of antics
up his sleeve.
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I remember Jack Litman
really went after
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the investigators,
the detectives in the case.
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-He tried to say that the cops
did a very sloppy job.
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I testified that when
I examined Jennifer's body,
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I noticed that her teeth
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were loose in her mouth,
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probably because of the blows
she sustained to the face.
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"Well, why didn't
the medical examiner
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say she had loose teeth?"
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I said, "I don't know.
I'm not a medical doctor."
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He challenged everything,
you know --
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everything I testified to.
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Jack Litman thinks on his feet.
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[Camera shutters click]
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-Jack Litman tried his best
to make him look like somebody
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who went on the scene,
who bungled the evidence.
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-By the time we got finished
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with the detectives
and the police officers,
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we were able to prove
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that the crime scene was
totally destroyed
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by the professionals who were
supposed to preserve it.
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-Yeah, we thought the cops
really screwed up.
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We really made fun of the cops.
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One didn't know what
the other one was doing.
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I was not impressed at all.
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-Jack was trying
to control the courtroom,
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and I really was afraid
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the Levin family might never
get justice for Jennifer.
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But there was no doubt that
we had the truth on our side.
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I was not gonna let Jack
win this case.
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-Big trials come and go
in New York City.
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Once in a while, one of them
gets national attention.
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That's what happened
with the Chambers case.
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-Robert Chambers
says he broke his hand...
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-The Preppy Murder trial --
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I mean, it was a big, big story.
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It was the top of the newscast
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every single night.
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It was the front page
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of every newspaper in town.
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-Every day, by the time
we got to the courthouse,
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there was a big crowd
and cameras,
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and they'd have to part
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in order for you to have access.
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You get used to it,
quite frankly.
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That's just your new normal.
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[Indistinct talking]
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-One of the challenges was that
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Linda was trying to set
the scene in Dorrian's.
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It began as a wonderful night,
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getting ready to go to college,
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last hurrah.
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-But one of the challenges
we faced was
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Jennifer's friends' testimony.
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With almost all of the kids
that I had to put on the stand,
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it was really a two-edged sword.
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I was trying to prove
that she would not do
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anything mean to him,
and, therefore,
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there was no way to keep out
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that she had
had sex with him before.
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-So, when Jennifer Levin's
friends started to testify,
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through cross-examination,
we were able to bring out facts
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that helped to support
our -- our defense.
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This was not a lack of consent.
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-So, she wanted sex.
What's the big deal?
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Is she not allowed to have sex?
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Well, no, she isn't,
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'cause she's a woman, right?
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I mean, that's the message.
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She was on trial
for wanting to have sex.
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-Her friends,
all they wanted to do
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is tell the real story --
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who their friend was,
how wonderful she was.
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Instead, their words
were twisted around
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to make it sound like,
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"Yeah, oh, we were par--
You know, we like to party."
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It wasn't just an attack
on Jennifer.
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It was an attack
on her lifestyle,
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on her personality,
on her morals.
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-She was a wholesome kid,
and she was painted to be,
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you know, this kind of whore.
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-That, to me,
is one of the biggest crimes
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of what Jack Litman did to her
and to her memory.
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-Jennifer Levin's mother
cried uncontrollably
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and left the courtroom.
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-So much emotion being there,
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but whether I was alone
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or whether somebody
came with me,
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I was there every day...
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[Camera shutters click]
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...because I realized...
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this is the last piece
of business I can do
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for my daughter.
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♪♪
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-My heart would just break
every day for Ellen Levin.
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I mean, she was going through
the worst time of her life,
264
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and having to relive
the death of her daughter
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was just terrible...
266
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whereas I never got to know
Phyllis Chambers.
267
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-His mother, Phyllis,
entered earlier.
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She was clutching a book
entitled "The Gift of Hope."
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-The only time I had contact
with his mother,
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Phyllis Chambers,
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was when she came over
to me with a book.
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And she said, "I'm so sorry.
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Maybe this will help."
274
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It was her only attempt to,
I guess, apologize,
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and I wasn't receptive.
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I-I wasn't nasty.
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I just took the book,
walked away,
278
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and then I may have just
thrown it in the garbage.
279
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-Robert Chambers' parents left
the criminal courthouse today.
280
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While a tearful and distraught
Mrs. Chambers
281
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sought the comfort of friends,
282
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her husband, Robert Sr.,
283
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maintained a silent calm.
284
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-It was fascinating because
285
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not only did Robert have
his parents with him,
286
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but Robert Chambers would come
287
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with a very pretty young girl.
288
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-Her name was Shawn Kovell.
289
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And she was
Robert Chambers' girlfriend.
290
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I don't know how far back
they went,
291
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but, certainly during the trial,
they were boyfriend-girlfriend.
292
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-Yeah, we knew about her.
293
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Actually,
I had no thoughts other than,
294
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she must be out of her mind.
295
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It's not a wise choice.
296
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She should get a life.
297
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-I wasn't sure whether it was
Jack Litman encouraging Robert
298
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to bring a woman with him
every day to court
299
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so that he seemed safe,
300
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but Shawn seemed very smitten,
301
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and so it kind of softened
302
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who Robert Chambers might be.
303
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-Robert Chambers --
he had his supporters
304
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on one side of the courtroom,
305
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and that included the clergy.
306
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The church was there
to support him.
307
00:13:52,833 --> 00:13:54,833
-It bothered me during the trial
308
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that there was this sense
that the Catholic church is
309
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there to help Robert Chambers.
310
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It was a dangerous place
for the Catholic church to be.
311
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Why are they taking sides here?
312
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-This was all part of
Jack Litman's orchestration.
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To the public,
it looked like he was
314
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a young, clean,
315
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good Catholic boy.
316
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-For one hour,
late this afternoon,
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the jury watched TV monitors
318
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and listened
as Chambers told police
319
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that Jennifer Levin freaked out
and went crazy.
320
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-I started to say,
"Stop it, stop it, it hurts,"
321
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and she just kind of
laughed in a weird way.
322
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It was, like, more like
a cackle or something.
323
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And she, like,
sat on my face,
324
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and then she dug her nails
into my chest.
325
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-When you look at that
hour-long videotape,
326
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do you think it's all lies
from Robert Chambers?
327
00:14:47,787 --> 00:14:49,220
-I think Robert Chambers
is a liar.
328
00:14:49,256 --> 00:14:51,089
I think everything in
that videotape is a lie.
329
00:14:51,124 --> 00:14:52,490
-Do you believe Robert Chambers
330
00:14:52,525 --> 00:14:54,225
took her to the park
to kill her?
331
00:14:54,261 --> 00:14:55,727
-I don't know that he took her
to the park to kill her,
332
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but I know he --
that they went into the park
333
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and what happened was,
he killed her.
334
00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:02,533
-Assistant District Attorney
Linda Fairstein
335
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called Chambers'
videotaped statement
336
00:15:04,271 --> 00:15:06,905
that he had accidentally
killed Levin during rough sex
337
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a "complete fiction
338
00:15:09,042 --> 00:15:13,878
to make Jennifer look wild
or kinky or sexually unusual."
339
00:15:16,116 --> 00:15:20,852
-The way Jack Litman
used this videotape,
340
00:15:20,887 --> 00:15:23,955
it made it seem like
she was the aggressor.
341
00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:27,625
She wanted the sex.
He wasn't interested.
342
00:15:27,661 --> 00:15:29,560
She was the one to blame.
343
00:15:29,596 --> 00:15:34,699
-The blame-the-victim tactics
were suddenly so obvious.
344
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It was almost evil.
345
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[Camera shutters click]
346
00:15:41,608 --> 00:15:45,076
-We knew that Jack Litman was
preparing Robert Chambers
347
00:15:45,111 --> 00:15:47,745
to testify.
348
00:15:47,781 --> 00:15:49,914
If Robert Chambers
took the stand,
349
00:15:49,950 --> 00:15:51,549
I could finally show the jury
350
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he was not the choirboy
351
00:15:53,787 --> 00:15:55,887
that Litman painted him to be.
352
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♪♪
353
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-Everybody was kind of wondering
if Robert Chambers
354
00:16:03,196 --> 00:16:05,263
would be called to the stand,
355
00:16:05,298 --> 00:16:11,502
and everybody couldn't wait
to find out why he killed her.
356
00:16:11,538 --> 00:16:14,339
-But one of the most
shocking moments for me
357
00:16:14,374 --> 00:16:20,445
was that Jack did not have
Robert Chambers testify.
358
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,313
That was one of the most
disappointing moments
359
00:16:22,349 --> 00:16:24,248
in the trial for me
because I thought
360
00:16:24,284 --> 00:16:27,986
we would have a chance
to expose his sociopathy,
361
00:16:28,021 --> 00:16:32,790
his ability to lie,
and his life of crime.
362
00:16:32,826 --> 00:16:36,160
I imagine that Jack was appalled
363
00:16:36,196 --> 00:16:40,798
when he saw the number
of crimes and bad acts
364
00:16:40,834 --> 00:16:44,502
that we could prove.
365
00:16:44,537 --> 00:16:46,704
-We built this entire
criminal background
366
00:16:46,740 --> 00:16:47,772
of Robert Chambers
367
00:16:47,807 --> 00:16:49,874
in case he took the stand.
368
00:16:49,909 --> 00:16:51,275
We couldn't use it.
369
00:16:51,311 --> 00:16:53,978
Was it frustrating for us?
Absolutely!
370
00:16:54,014 --> 00:16:55,646
-It would have made
a huge difference,
371
00:16:55,682 --> 00:16:57,982
I think, to the jurors.
372
00:16:58,018 --> 00:17:00,118
-The Levin family has
not been in court
373
00:17:00,153 --> 00:17:02,854
to hear the medical testimony.
374
00:17:02,889 --> 00:17:07,291
-I did not want the Levins
in the courtroom the day
375
00:17:07,327 --> 00:17:10,361
that the medical examiner was
going to go through the autopsy
376
00:17:10,397 --> 00:17:13,631
because to have people
who loved her listen to that
377
00:17:13,666 --> 00:17:17,668
is beyond imaginable.
378
00:17:17,704 --> 00:17:20,371
We knew that the death
was asphyxial.
379
00:17:20,407 --> 00:17:22,173
That was clear.
380
00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:26,477
So, how that happened was much
more open to interpretation.
381
00:17:26,513 --> 00:17:28,646
-There were a lot of witnesses
382
00:17:28,681 --> 00:17:30,548
that Jack Litman
called to the stand,
383
00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:35,486
including medical examiners
who backed up Robert Chambers.
384
00:17:35,522 --> 00:17:39,157
-A doctor from LA named
Ronald Kornblum testified
385
00:17:39,192 --> 00:17:42,060
about the chokehold technique,
386
00:17:42,095 --> 00:17:44,195
that it had been a single pull,
387
00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:46,664
as Chambers had described
in the video,
388
00:17:46,699 --> 00:17:49,534
and Jennifer flipped over
and never moved again.
389
00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:53,171
-The marks on the neck were
presented by competing experts.
390
00:17:53,206 --> 00:17:54,539
One would say one thing,
391
00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:55,573
the other one would
say another thing,
392
00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:56,607
so you're back in the middle,
393
00:17:56,643 --> 00:17:58,042
like, "Who do you believe?"
394
00:17:58,078 --> 00:18:01,512
-But because of some
overwhelming accident...
395
00:18:01,548 --> 00:18:03,081
-Litman did everything
in his power
396
00:18:03,116 --> 00:18:06,350
to confuse the jury.
397
00:18:06,386 --> 00:18:08,352
-He would call a witness up,
like a doctor,
398
00:18:08,388 --> 00:18:10,421
and show us X-rays.
399
00:18:10,457 --> 00:18:11,622
Nobody can read X-rays.
400
00:18:11,658 --> 00:18:12,957
I wasn't taught
to read an X-ray,
401
00:18:12,992 --> 00:18:16,127
and he was more or less
trying to, uh...
402
00:18:16,162 --> 00:18:17,695
baffle us.
403
00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:23,401
-With all the scientific
testimony back and forth,
404
00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:25,903
it just got so muddled.
405
00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:28,940
-The relationship between
Jack Litman and Linda Fairstein
406
00:18:28,975 --> 00:18:31,275
had kind of broken down
407
00:18:31,311 --> 00:18:33,311
to the extent that they kind of
408
00:18:33,346 --> 00:18:35,079
weren't talking to each other.
409
00:18:35,115 --> 00:18:39,250
Jack had a penchant
for pushing Linda's buttons.
410
00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:41,586
He could be very irritating.
411
00:18:41,621 --> 00:18:43,721
-The two of them were
fighting constantly.
412
00:18:43,756 --> 00:18:46,924
There were a lot of sidebars
that bored the heck out of us.
413
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,060
-Defense attorney Jack Litman
414
00:18:49,095 --> 00:18:50,895
will have
his last chance tomorrow
415
00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:52,563
to get his message to the jury
416
00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:54,632
that Jennifer Levin
died accidentally
417
00:18:54,667 --> 00:18:56,100
during rough sex.
418
00:18:56,136 --> 00:18:57,802
And the prosecutor,
Linda Fairstein,
419
00:18:57,837 --> 00:19:02,106
will also try to convince them
it was murder.
420
00:19:02,142 --> 00:19:06,110
-I needed the jury to understand
that this took minutes,
421
00:19:06,146 --> 00:19:10,681
that Robert Chambers,
in those three to five minutes,
422
00:19:10,717 --> 00:19:13,317
formed and executed the intent
423
00:19:13,353 --> 00:19:14,952
to kill Jennifer Levin.
424
00:19:14,988 --> 00:19:15,987
He murdered her.
425
00:19:16,022 --> 00:19:19,023
That was intentional.
426
00:19:19,058 --> 00:19:20,625
-What's it been like for you
427
00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:23,995
the last 11 weeks,
being in this courtroom?
428
00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:26,297
-Torture.
Sheer torture.
429
00:19:26,332 --> 00:19:28,766
-How has this, uh,
changed your --
430
00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:32,170
your life since
the day she died?
431
00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:34,605
-That's a very complicated
question to answer,
432
00:19:34,641 --> 00:19:37,108
but, for sure, my life
will never be the same
433
00:19:37,143 --> 00:19:38,776
Um...
434
00:19:38,811 --> 00:19:40,511
And I'd rather not
comment anymore.
435
00:19:40,547 --> 00:19:45,283
Thank you very much.
-Thank you.
436
00:19:45,318 --> 00:19:48,886
-We didn't get a chance
to grieve or mourn...
437
00:19:48,922 --> 00:19:51,856
at all, so...
438
00:19:51,891 --> 00:19:54,192
[Camera shutters click]
439
00:19:54,227 --> 00:19:56,194
-The jury is expected
to begin deliberations
440
00:19:56,229 --> 00:19:57,528
today in New York
441
00:19:57,564 --> 00:20:00,531
in the New York
Preppy Murder case.
442
00:20:00,567 --> 00:20:02,667
-We were actually looking
forward to deliberations,
443
00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:05,503
thinking we can get
this thing over with.
444
00:20:05,538 --> 00:20:08,406
-She's flipping backwards?
-She came over this way
445
00:20:08,441 --> 00:20:12,043
and landed right there,
right next to the tree.
446
00:20:12,078 --> 00:20:14,011
-In the jury room,
when we watched the confession,
447
00:20:14,047 --> 00:20:15,746
and we watched it many times,
448
00:20:15,782 --> 00:20:18,249
I don't think anybody
in that room
449
00:20:18,284 --> 00:20:20,084
actually believed
the confession.
450
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,253
When he said,
"She took advantage of me,"
451
00:20:22,288 --> 00:20:24,522
you're 6'4".
452
00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:26,324
Get over it.
Be a man.
453
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,392
Nobody can take
advantage of you.
454
00:20:28,428 --> 00:20:30,027
Nobody believed that.
455
00:20:30,063 --> 00:20:32,563
-I was not worried for
the first three or four days
456
00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:33,898
of jury deliberations.
457
00:20:33,933 --> 00:20:36,033
I felt there was
so much evidence.
458
00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:38,002
-We thought this was a home run,
459
00:20:38,037 --> 00:20:42,406
and then we waited,
uh, for days.
460
00:20:42,442 --> 00:20:44,275
-By the fifth day,
461
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:47,211
everybody in my office
was worried.
462
00:20:47,247 --> 00:20:50,114
It was beginning to be too long.
463
00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:51,582
-The jury seems to be struggling
464
00:20:51,618 --> 00:20:53,551
with the question
of whether Robert Chambers
465
00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:57,421
intentionally or accidentally
killed Jennifer Levin.
466
00:20:57,457 --> 00:20:59,790
-The sticking point was intent.
467
00:20:59,826 --> 00:21:01,525
We had to reach a decision,
468
00:21:01,561 --> 00:21:03,561
guilty or not guilty,
on the first charge,
469
00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:05,229
which was Murder II.
470
00:21:05,265 --> 00:21:08,532
We had to decide whether
he intentionally killed her
471
00:21:08,568 --> 00:21:11,102
or was it an accident?
472
00:21:11,137 --> 00:21:13,404
Did he get angry
and -- and, you know,
473
00:21:13,439 --> 00:21:15,573
lose his mind and hit her
and all that?
474
00:21:15,608 --> 00:21:17,108
That's a possibility,
but that doesn't mean
475
00:21:17,143 --> 00:21:18,809
he intended to kill her.
476
00:21:18,845 --> 00:21:20,411
That's a tough call.
477
00:21:20,446 --> 00:21:22,113
That's a really tough call.
478
00:21:22,148 --> 00:21:24,148
There were eight people
who voted guilty
479
00:21:24,183 --> 00:21:26,584
on the first charge,
which means intent.
480
00:21:26,619 --> 00:21:29,153
There were four people
who voted not guilty,
481
00:21:29,188 --> 00:21:32,590
which means
there was no intent there.
482
00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:33,958
We were stuck at 8-4.
483
00:21:33,993 --> 00:21:35,259
Unless we all agreed,
484
00:21:35,295 --> 00:21:37,728
we were dead in the water
right there.
485
00:21:37,764 --> 00:21:40,331
-They were deciding
for a very long time,
486
00:21:40,366 --> 00:21:43,000
and we understood that
that's a bad sign --
487
00:21:43,036 --> 00:21:44,602
very bad.
488
00:21:44,637 --> 00:21:46,837
-We would go back and forth,
you know, really,
489
00:21:46,873 --> 00:21:49,440
from, like, "How could they not
convict him right away?"
490
00:21:49,475 --> 00:21:53,911
to "Eesh. Did -- Did --
Did Litman do enough damage?"
491
00:21:53,946 --> 00:21:56,614
-I remember being sequestered.
492
00:21:56,649 --> 00:21:59,183
So, fine.
One overnight is not a big deal.
493
00:21:59,218 --> 00:22:00,951
Two overnights we can live with.
494
00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:04,455
When it came into seven,
eight, nine, you know,
495
00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:05,956
everybody wanted out.
496
00:22:05,992 --> 00:22:08,326
One juror faked a heart attack.
497
00:22:08,361 --> 00:22:09,860
Some of the women were crying.
498
00:22:09,896 --> 00:22:11,862
They just couldn't
take it anymore.
499
00:22:11,898 --> 00:22:14,365
You know, one of the jurors
locked himself in a refrigerator
500
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,300
'cause I wanted to kill him.
501
00:22:16,336 --> 00:22:18,636
I did.
He was annoying.
502
00:22:18,671 --> 00:22:19,970
I was very angry at the fact
503
00:22:20,006 --> 00:22:23,674
that we couldn't reach
a decision.
504
00:22:23,710 --> 00:22:25,943
-Nine days of jury
deliberations,
505
00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:30,181
and yet the jury could not come
to a unanimous decision
506
00:22:30,216 --> 00:22:32,216
beyond a reasonable doubt
507
00:22:32,251 --> 00:22:33,684
as to what had happened.
508
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,656
The jury was really deadlocked.
509
00:22:38,691 --> 00:22:41,826
-Is there a just punishment
for Chambers?
510
00:22:41,861 --> 00:22:43,060
-I hope so.
511
00:22:43,096 --> 00:22:44,495
I mean, I'm --
512
00:22:44,530 --> 00:22:46,464
I'm really looking to see
513
00:22:46,499 --> 00:22:48,899
that Chambers gets punished.
514
00:22:48,935 --> 00:22:50,167
-What would you like
to see happen?
515
00:22:50,203 --> 00:22:53,337
-I'd like to see him
get the max.
516
00:22:53,373 --> 00:22:55,573
He can't take a life
517
00:22:55,608 --> 00:22:58,008
and not get the max.
518
00:22:58,044 --> 00:23:00,711
-Linda called me, and she said,
"Uh, listen,
519
00:23:00,747 --> 00:23:04,181
I'm really worried
about this jury.
520
00:23:04,217 --> 00:23:06,350
I think we have
a major problem."
521
00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:07,685
[Crowd shouting]
522
00:23:08,653 --> 00:23:14,358
♪♪
523
00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:16,360
-From our point of view
on the defense,
524
00:23:16,396 --> 00:23:17,828
we were under a lot of pressure
525
00:23:17,864 --> 00:23:21,365
because the jury
appeared deadlocked.
526
00:23:21,401 --> 00:23:23,200
We have to do something now.
527
00:23:23,236 --> 00:23:27,204
I mean, this jury is not
coming up with a verdict.
528
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,674
So, I called Linda Fairstein,
529
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:34,845
and I asked her if we could
sit down and talk about a plea,
530
00:23:34,881 --> 00:23:39,617
because a hung jury would not
look very good for them, either.
531
00:23:39,652 --> 00:23:42,286
When I went to her office,
532
00:23:42,321 --> 00:23:43,687
the New York Post
533
00:23:43,723 --> 00:23:46,257
was on the desk.
534
00:23:46,292 --> 00:23:48,392
There was a picture
of me and Robert Chambers
535
00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:52,296
on the front page that said,
"Plea deal in the works.
536
00:23:52,331 --> 00:23:54,632
Chambers shocker."
537
00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:57,768
And I said,
"I'm here doing this,"
538
00:23:57,804 --> 00:23:59,303
and, to this day,
539
00:23:59,338 --> 00:24:01,605
I don't know how --
how that happened.
540
00:24:01,641 --> 00:24:05,376
-Jack Litman offered to
plead guilty to manslaughter
541
00:24:05,411 --> 00:24:06,877
in the first degree,
542
00:24:06,913 --> 00:24:09,747
which did not require intent.
543
00:24:09,782 --> 00:24:11,982
But Robert had to admit
544
00:24:12,018 --> 00:24:14,718
that he caused the death
of Jennifer Levin.
545
00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:17,555
♪♪
546
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:19,757
-Maybe 40 minutes,
547
00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:22,593
we had the broad outlines
of a deal.
548
00:24:22,628 --> 00:24:24,662
-Linda brought us
into her office
549
00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:27,097
to let us know what
was put on the table.
550
00:24:27,133 --> 00:24:29,567
-One of the hardest
conversations I'd ever had
551
00:24:29,602 --> 00:24:32,436
was to tell the Levins.
552
00:24:32,472 --> 00:24:34,438
-She gave us the ultimatum,
553
00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:36,607
and it's,
"Accept the plea-bargain
554
00:24:36,642 --> 00:24:39,977
or he is out again
until the next trial,
555
00:24:40,012 --> 00:24:42,112
which could be two years."
556
00:24:42,148 --> 00:24:45,282
We felt totally cheated.
557
00:24:45,318 --> 00:24:48,786
But we knew that we could not
go through this again.
558
00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:50,454
[Static]
559
00:24:50,490 --> 00:24:52,122
♪♪
560
00:24:52,158 --> 00:24:54,291
-There was a big
press conference.
561
00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:55,693
The district attorney Morgenthau
562
00:24:55,728 --> 00:24:58,329
was there with
all the attorneys.
563
00:24:58,364 --> 00:25:00,598
It was a big deal.
564
00:25:00,633 --> 00:25:01,866
-The Manhattan district attorney
565
00:25:01,901 --> 00:25:03,634
said he couldn't
convict Chambers
566
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:05,836
on the circumstantial evidence.
567
00:25:05,872 --> 00:25:07,838
-This office determined
that the plea agreement
568
00:25:07,874 --> 00:25:09,340
was in the interest of justice.
569
00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:12,042
-I don't think that
we could have withstood
570
00:25:12,078 --> 00:25:13,777
another trial
and the tensions
571
00:25:13,813 --> 00:25:15,713
and problems that went on
572
00:25:15,748 --> 00:25:17,381
for another year and a half.
573
00:25:17,416 --> 00:25:20,985
It would have been too much
for everyone concerned.
574
00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:22,887
We weren't happy.
575
00:25:22,922 --> 00:25:25,389
It was kind of a resignation.
576
00:25:25,424 --> 00:25:27,725
♪♪
577
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,060
-New York City's so-called
Preppy Murder trial
578
00:25:30,096 --> 00:25:31,161
came to a dramatic
579
00:25:31,197 --> 00:25:32,897
and unexpected end late today.
580
00:25:32,932 --> 00:25:35,199
-It happened at just a few
minutes after 5:00 this evening.
581
00:25:35,234 --> 00:25:37,067
In a packed and hushed
courtroom,
582
00:25:37,103 --> 00:25:38,569
Robert Chambers pleaded guilty
583
00:25:38,604 --> 00:25:40,671
to the charge
of first-degree manslaughter.
584
00:25:40,706 --> 00:25:42,706
He's going to be sentenced
on April 15th
585
00:25:42,742 --> 00:25:46,176
to 5 to 15 years in prison.
586
00:25:46,212 --> 00:25:47,711
-There was very much a sense of,
587
00:25:47,747 --> 00:25:49,179
"Hmm. Manslaughter?
588
00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:50,848
It was a murder trial.
589
00:25:50,883 --> 00:25:52,349
5 to 15?
590
00:25:52,385 --> 00:25:55,052
Is that what Jennifer Levin's
life was worth?"
591
00:25:55,087 --> 00:25:56,720
-It was controversial
at the time.
592
00:25:56,756 --> 00:25:59,089
Many people criticized it
for being --
593
00:25:59,125 --> 00:26:01,091
for being too -- too light.
594
00:26:01,127 --> 00:26:02,860
-Do you think 5 to 15 years
in prison
595
00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:05,095
is enough for killing someone?
596
00:26:05,131 --> 00:26:07,097
-Honestly, no, but, I mean,
597
00:26:07,133 --> 00:26:09,266
that's the justice system
of today.
598
00:26:09,302 --> 00:26:12,603
-I tell you, he should have
gotten more than 5 to 15.
599
00:26:12,638 --> 00:26:14,505
I think he should
get life or worse.
600
00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:16,540
-You mean that's --
that's all that --
601
00:26:16,576 --> 00:26:18,042
that he got?
602
00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:20,611
If it was my daughter,
I sure as heck would feel
603
00:26:20,646 --> 00:26:23,013
that he should be given
the electric chair.
604
00:26:23,049 --> 00:26:25,049
-They called us in the jury room
and says,
605
00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:27,785
"This case has been resolved,"
606
00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:29,787
and that's all we heard.
607
00:26:29,822 --> 00:26:32,222
We found out later that
there was a plea-bargain.
608
00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:34,191
-I still to this day
609
00:26:34,226 --> 00:26:36,360
am horrified at the result.
610
00:26:36,395 --> 00:26:39,763
I just can't believe that
you could get away with murder.
611
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:41,699
-Actually, I bumped
in to Judge Bell
612
00:26:41,734 --> 00:26:44,368
probably 10, 15 years ago,
613
00:26:44,403 --> 00:26:46,570
and the first thing
he said to me is,
614
00:26:46,606 --> 00:26:49,740
"Why couldn't you
convict that kid?"
615
00:26:49,775 --> 00:26:51,775
-The fact that Robert Chambers
would be standing,
616
00:26:51,811 --> 00:26:53,744
addressing the court
one final time today,
617
00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:55,713
brought a crush of media
and spectators
618
00:26:55,748 --> 00:26:57,247
to the courthouse.
619
00:26:57,283 --> 00:27:00,317
-Today we came to --
to see the end of a trial,
620
00:27:00,353 --> 00:27:03,887
a trial with no answers,
a trial with no winners.
621
00:27:03,923 --> 00:27:06,423
The Levin family have gone
through hell...
622
00:27:06,459 --> 00:27:10,260
because of my actions,
and I am sorry.
623
00:27:10,296 --> 00:27:11,829
-The statement that
Robert Chambers made
624
00:27:11,864 --> 00:27:16,400
at his sentence was
his statement in his voice.
625
00:27:16,435 --> 00:27:18,669
-I never wanted any of this
to happen.
626
00:27:18,704 --> 00:27:22,006
But her name will live on,
not through memories
627
00:27:22,041 --> 00:27:25,009
but by her family
and her feelings.
628
00:27:25,044 --> 00:27:27,945
And I wish to apologize
to the family and to her friends
629
00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:30,314
for all the trouble that
they've gone through.
630
00:27:30,349 --> 00:27:33,183
I've never wanted any of this
to happen to anybody.
631
00:27:33,219 --> 00:27:35,285
-I wanted to jump over the bench
632
00:27:35,321 --> 00:27:37,655
'cause I wanted to smack him
across the face,
633
00:27:37,690 --> 00:27:42,026
because he was going like this.
634
00:27:42,061 --> 00:27:45,129
It was as if,
"I-I'll make this deal,
635
00:27:45,164 --> 00:27:47,931
but don't believe
a word that I say."
636
00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:50,501
It was yet another insult
to our family.
637
00:27:50,536 --> 00:27:54,972
There was no sign of remorse
that I ever saw.
638
00:27:55,007 --> 00:27:56,540
-He said nothing
in the courtroom today.
639
00:27:56,575 --> 00:27:57,875
-Not even --
640
00:27:57,910 --> 00:27:59,543
-He said nothing
in the courtroom today.
641
00:27:59,578 --> 00:28:00,678
-You don't believe
he's remorseful?
642
00:28:00,713 --> 00:28:02,146
-He said nothing.
643
00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:03,714
It didn't come from here,
it came from here --
644
00:28:03,749 --> 00:28:05,883
a memory, memorized.
645
00:28:05,918 --> 00:28:07,885
-It was not
a fulfilling verdict.
646
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,888
It was like, "Oh, okay.
We got an ending."
647
00:28:10,923 --> 00:28:13,223
But not the ending that
a lot of people wanted.
648
00:28:13,259 --> 00:28:15,826
-Robert Chambers left
Manhattan Criminal Court tonight
649
00:28:15,861 --> 00:28:17,628
a guilty man.
650
00:28:17,663 --> 00:28:19,963
-Chambers will spend one
last night with his family
651
00:28:19,999 --> 00:28:22,566
before surrendering to police.
652
00:28:22,601 --> 00:28:24,668
-We worked out with the judge
653
00:28:24,704 --> 00:28:28,405
that he was able to go
to his home that night,
654
00:28:28,441 --> 00:28:30,007
and then the next day,
655
00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:33,677
he would start
serving his sentence.
656
00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:35,345
-And as he left
the court building,
657
00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:37,147
there was time
for a quiet moment
658
00:28:37,183 --> 00:28:39,983
between mother and son.
659
00:28:40,019 --> 00:28:41,685
-He's allowed to go home
660
00:28:41,721 --> 00:28:43,821
and spend the night
with his mother?
661
00:28:43,856 --> 00:28:45,556
It's just adding insult
to injury.
662
00:28:45,591 --> 00:28:47,491
It was ludicrous.
663
00:28:47,526 --> 00:28:53,764
♪♪
664
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:55,733
-The next morning, Mike Sheehan
665
00:28:55,768 --> 00:29:00,838
came to the Chambers' apartment
with a bulletproof vest.
666
00:29:00,873 --> 00:29:03,874
-And Robert said,
"I don't think I need a vest."
667
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:06,243
I said, "No?
Look down there."
668
00:29:06,278 --> 00:29:09,580
[Crowd chanting
"Justice for Jennifer!"]
669
00:29:09,615 --> 00:29:11,348
-The Guardian Angels --
they were all running around
670
00:29:11,383 --> 00:29:12,683
with their berets,
671
00:29:12,718 --> 00:29:15,252
chanting and yelling
in the streets.
672
00:29:15,287 --> 00:29:18,722
I said, "It only takes
one of them with a gun
673
00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:20,357
to take a shot at you.
674
00:29:20,392 --> 00:29:21,558
Put your vest on."
675
00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:23,060
So, he put the vest on,
676
00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:25,429
and he put an Irish sweater
over it.
677
00:29:25,464 --> 00:29:27,965
-At 10:00, the tall,
handsome young man,
678
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,801
looking drawn and pale,
was escorted out of his home
679
00:29:30,836 --> 00:29:34,905
for what would be the last time
in a long time.
680
00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:39,309
-The crowd was so big
that it moves you
681
00:29:39,345 --> 00:29:43,113
in different directions,
which is very scary.
682
00:29:43,149 --> 00:29:46,083
We delivered him to
the Department of Corrections
683
00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:49,720
for him to begin serving
his 5-to-15-year sentence.
684
00:29:49,755 --> 00:29:52,256
♪♪
685
00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:55,759
-We walked Robert to the cell.
686
00:29:55,795 --> 00:29:58,929
He went in,
and I heard him throwing up.
687
00:29:58,964 --> 00:30:00,831
He threw up in the toilet.
688
00:30:00,866 --> 00:30:02,833
Robert turned around,
689
00:30:02,868 --> 00:30:04,902
and he said, "I'll never
get used to the smell."
690
00:30:04,937 --> 00:30:07,571
[Bars clink]
691
00:30:07,606 --> 00:30:09,740
♪♪
692
00:30:09,775 --> 00:30:11,909
-After the trial,
693
00:30:11,944 --> 00:30:14,144
there was a reporter on
"Current Affair"
694
00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:15,579
who was a friend of mine,
695
00:30:15,614 --> 00:30:18,615
and he had been contacted
696
00:30:18,651 --> 00:30:20,417
by one of the girls
697
00:30:20,452 --> 00:30:23,320
who palled around
with Robert Chambers.
698
00:30:23,355 --> 00:30:26,290
The girl told him
that there was a tape.
699
00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:27,457
My God.
700
00:30:27,493 --> 00:30:30,294
This was worth a million bucks.
701
00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:37,835
-Steve Dunleavy, a reporter
from "Current Affair,"
702
00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:39,837
called me, and he said,
"There's a tape.
703
00:30:39,872 --> 00:30:42,673
You gotta come see this tape."
704
00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:46,210
So I ran to Channel 5,
and he showed it to me...
705
00:30:46,245 --> 00:30:49,780
and I said, "Jesus."
706
00:30:49,815 --> 00:30:51,648
-Hello, everyone.
707
00:30:51,684 --> 00:30:54,318
Welcome to a special edition
of "A Current Affair."
708
00:30:54,353 --> 00:30:57,287
We immediately put it on
that night,
709
00:30:57,323 --> 00:30:59,323
and all hell broke loose.
710
00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:03,227
[Static]
711
00:31:03,262 --> 00:31:04,661
On this tape,
712
00:31:04,697 --> 00:31:06,530
we see a whole bevy
713
00:31:06,565 --> 00:31:09,499
of young, very pretty girls.
714
00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:13,670
And Shawn Kovell was there.
715
00:31:13,706 --> 00:31:15,839
And there is Robert Chambers
716
00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:19,042
in the middle of them.
717
00:31:19,078 --> 00:31:22,246
He then picks up a doll,
718
00:31:22,281 --> 00:31:25,349
and with this strange voice,
719
00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:28,552
like out of a bad horror movie,
720
00:31:28,587 --> 00:31:30,053
he picks it up
721
00:31:30,089 --> 00:31:32,356
and says straight to camera...
722
00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:35,158
-My name is --
723
00:31:35,194 --> 00:31:36,193
Oops.
724
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:37,961
[Chuckles]
-Stop!
725
00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:44,368
-How did he think
this was even funny?
726
00:31:44,403 --> 00:31:48,772
-He's been charged with murder,
I mean, and he's joking.
727
00:31:48,807 --> 00:31:50,173
You know, "Oh," you know?
728
00:31:50,209 --> 00:31:53,543
It's just -- It was just awful.
729
00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:55,913
-That tape went on into infamy,
you know?
730
00:31:55,948 --> 00:31:58,782
I-I believe it definitely would
have been a different verdict.
731
00:31:58,817 --> 00:32:01,051
I mean, it really paints
732
00:32:01,086 --> 00:32:03,253
a lousy picture
of Robert Chambers.
733
00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:05,622
-The optics of it were terrible.
734
00:32:05,658 --> 00:32:09,559
Having said that,
I thought it was such a reach
735
00:32:09,595 --> 00:32:12,462
that they were trying
to relate this somehow
736
00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:14,264
to -- to Jennifer Levin.
737
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:17,567
It didn't really prove anything.
738
00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:20,404
-For me, that's when
he finally really showed
739
00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:23,073
the public his true colors.
740
00:32:23,108 --> 00:32:26,743
Finally, the whole world
saw him for who he was.
741
00:32:26,779 --> 00:32:33,116
♪♪
742
00:32:33,152 --> 00:32:38,088
-Robert Chambers's sentence
was 5 to 15 years.
743
00:32:38,123 --> 00:32:41,625
He could have been out
in five years on good behavior.
744
00:32:41,660 --> 00:32:46,263
Instead, I think he broke
every rule that there was.
745
00:32:46,298 --> 00:32:48,765
I know that he was busted
for drugs.
746
00:32:48,801 --> 00:32:51,435
♪♪
747
00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:55,072
He was in solitary a few times.
748
00:32:55,107 --> 00:32:56,273
He just screwed it up.
749
00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:58,575
He did not get out early.
750
00:32:58,610 --> 00:33:02,512
So he served his full 15 years.
751
00:33:02,548 --> 00:33:04,414
And then was out free,
752
00:33:04,450 --> 00:33:06,249
walking on the streets.
753
00:33:06,285 --> 00:33:09,619
♪♪
754
00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:10,954
-So-called Preppy Killer
755
00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:12,622
Robert Chambers
is a free man today.
756
00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:14,658
He walked out of a prison
in Upstate New York
757
00:33:14,693 --> 00:33:16,159
after serving 15 years
758
00:33:16,195 --> 00:33:18,261
for the killing
of Jennifer Levin.
759
00:33:18,297 --> 00:33:19,696
He says he's resolved to become
760
00:33:19,732 --> 00:33:21,765
a productive member
of the community,
761
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,633
but Levin's mother
called him dangerous
762
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:27,170
and said he doesn't
have a conscience.
763
00:33:27,206 --> 00:33:32,142
-We were, you know,
horrified, nervous.
764
00:33:32,177 --> 00:33:36,146
Now he was out free,
walking on the streets.
765
00:33:36,181 --> 00:33:38,048
I felt that, at any moment,
766
00:33:38,083 --> 00:33:41,485
he could hurt another girl.
767
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,655
I just didn't think
he was a sane person.
768
00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:48,125
-Then we heard that,
within a year,
769
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,495
he's in trouble again,
arrested, this time for drugs,
770
00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:55,232
with his girlfriend,
Shawn Kovell.
771
00:33:55,267 --> 00:33:57,467
-The police caught Robert
selling drugs,
772
00:33:57,503 --> 00:33:58,869
and he pleaded guilty.
773
00:33:58,904 --> 00:34:00,537
-And he brought Shawn Kovell
774
00:34:00,572 --> 00:34:02,005
right to the bottom with him.
775
00:34:02,041 --> 00:34:03,673
She was in such bad shape,
776
00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:06,009
I didn't even recognize her.
777
00:34:06,045 --> 00:34:08,512
In fact, the judge was so moved
778
00:34:08,547 --> 00:34:10,514
that he actually
put her into rehab.
779
00:34:10,549 --> 00:34:12,416
She got no time.
780
00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:14,818
-Robert Chambers
went back to prison.
781
00:34:14,853 --> 00:34:16,586
He got 19 years,
782
00:34:16,622 --> 00:34:20,857
which is longer than he served
for murdering my daughter.
783
00:34:20,893 --> 00:34:22,259
[Camera shutters click]
784
00:34:22,294 --> 00:34:25,395
-From the time you were 19...
785
00:34:25,431 --> 00:34:27,864
♪♪
786
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:29,933
...you've been in prison.
787
00:34:29,968 --> 00:34:34,037
I mean, you have just
completely wasted your life.
788
00:34:34,073 --> 00:34:40,110
♪♪
789
00:34:40,145 --> 00:34:42,045
-In the summer of 2018,
790
00:34:42,081 --> 00:34:45,382
I was shocked,
as many people were,
791
00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:47,451
to see the headlines
792
00:34:47,486 --> 00:34:49,086
about Theodore McCarrick.
793
00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:50,687
-Breaking news this morning
from the Vatican
794
00:34:50,722 --> 00:34:53,523
regarding the resignation
of a Cardinal.
795
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:55,892
-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick
tonight suspended
796
00:34:55,928 --> 00:34:59,196
from his public priestly duties
after an allegation
797
00:34:59,231 --> 00:35:02,632
he abused a teenager in New York
47 years ago
798
00:35:02,668 --> 00:35:05,302
was found to be credible
and substantiated.
799
00:35:05,337 --> 00:35:06,970
-Now in his 80s,
800
00:35:07,005 --> 00:35:10,474
it was exposed that he was
a pedophile priest,
801
00:35:10,509 --> 00:35:13,243
that he had been having
sexual relationships
802
00:35:13,278 --> 00:35:16,413
with the altar boys.
803
00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:18,915
Let us not forget
it was a letter
804
00:35:18,951 --> 00:35:21,551
from Archbishop McCarrick
to the judge
805
00:35:21,587 --> 00:35:26,156
presented by Jack Litman as part
of the bail application that
806
00:35:26,191 --> 00:35:29,559
really rattled the judge
and made him aware
807
00:35:29,595 --> 00:35:32,496
that the hierarchy
of the Catholic church was
808
00:35:32,531 --> 00:35:35,165
firmly behind Robert Chambers.
809
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,334
-And remember
that Phyllis Chambers,
810
00:35:37,369 --> 00:35:38,635
Robert's mother,
811
00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:41,638
had a long-time relationship
812
00:35:41,673 --> 00:35:43,640
with McCarrick.
813
00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:45,075
And, of course,
814
00:35:45,110 --> 00:35:48,745
Robert Chambers
was an altar boy.
815
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:50,514
-I'm -- I'm sure that
I've -- I've heard
816
00:35:50,549 --> 00:35:52,449
about other men being raped.
817
00:35:52,484 --> 00:35:54,317
It happens.
It can happen.
818
00:35:54,353 --> 00:35:57,487
It did happen.
819
00:35:57,523 --> 00:35:59,356
-Would I be shocked
if I found out
820
00:35:59,391 --> 00:36:01,758
that Robert Chambers
was sexually abused
821
00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:03,293
by Teddy McCarrick?
822
00:36:03,328 --> 00:36:04,861
Not at all.
823
00:36:04,897 --> 00:36:05,929
Could it have happened?
824
00:36:05,964 --> 00:36:07,797
Absolutely.
825
00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:12,002
Robert, at the time,
fits the profile perfectly.
826
00:36:12,037 --> 00:36:13,470
He's very vulnerable.
827
00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:18,642
He's the product
of a broken marriage.
828
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:21,678
To look back, your head spins.
829
00:36:21,713 --> 00:36:24,181
♪♪
830
00:36:24,216 --> 00:36:26,116
-Do I have any reason to believe
831
00:36:26,151 --> 00:36:30,954
that Robert was ever
sexually abused by McCarrick?
832
00:36:30,989 --> 00:36:32,222
No.
833
00:36:32,257 --> 00:36:34,958
And even if that
actually happened,
834
00:36:34,993 --> 00:36:39,396
I don't think that's
what caused his sociopathy.
835
00:36:39,431 --> 00:36:46,336
♪♪
836
00:36:46,371 --> 00:36:53,243
♪♪
837
00:36:53,278 --> 00:36:57,080
Robert Chambers always
blames everybody else.
838
00:36:57,115 --> 00:36:59,349
He murdered her.
He killed her in cold blood.
839
00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:02,252
He took the life out of her
with his bare hands.
840
00:37:02,287 --> 00:37:03,853
♪♪
841
00:37:05,823 --> 00:37:09,693
♪♪
842
00:37:09,728 --> 00:37:12,829
-What's fascinating
about the case is,
843
00:37:12,864 --> 00:37:16,566
we really don't know
what happened.
844
00:37:16,602 --> 00:37:20,837
But we know that she's not
responsible for her death.
845
00:37:20,872 --> 00:37:24,174
[Crowd chanting
"Justice for Jennifer!"]
846
00:37:24,209 --> 00:37:27,410
-And the trial didn't
give you that sense of "Oh!
847
00:37:27,446 --> 00:37:32,282
Finally, justice for Jennifer."
848
00:37:32,317 --> 00:37:36,620
-It's amazing the burden
of proof that you need
849
00:37:36,655 --> 00:37:39,222
to convince a jury
that something happened,
850
00:37:39,258 --> 00:37:42,392
especially -- especially from
a woman's point of view.
851
00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:43,960
A woman has to stand on her head
852
00:37:43,996 --> 00:37:46,863
trying to prove
that they were assaulted
853
00:37:46,898 --> 00:37:49,266
or sexually assaulted.
854
00:37:49,301 --> 00:37:50,700
I think, hopefully,
down the road,
855
00:37:50,736 --> 00:37:53,470
it's gonna be easier for women,
856
00:37:53,505 --> 00:37:55,438
especially now with
the "Me, Too" movement
857
00:37:55,474 --> 00:37:57,607
and all these things
that are happening.
858
00:37:57,643 --> 00:37:59,276
-I don't know.
859
00:37:59,311 --> 00:38:02,979
I look around, and I think
we're in a strange time.
860
00:38:03,015 --> 00:38:05,949
We have not come as far
as I would have hoped we had
861
00:38:05,984 --> 00:38:09,252
in the last 30-something years.
862
00:38:09,288 --> 00:38:11,588
-We were just entering
into the age
863
00:38:11,623 --> 00:38:17,794
where women were demanding
attention and rights and respect
864
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:20,497
and some balance
in our justice system,
865
00:38:20,532 --> 00:38:24,134
and Jennifer's case brought that
to the surface.
866
00:38:24,169 --> 00:38:25,902
-I mean, okay, I get it.
People die.
867
00:38:25,937 --> 00:38:27,504
Sure.
Death happens.
868
00:38:27,539 --> 00:38:31,308
My dog died, you know.
I understand death.
869
00:38:31,343 --> 00:38:34,477
But this person who was
your best friend,
870
00:38:34,513 --> 00:38:39,616
this magnetic, kind, funny,
warm person was killed?
871
00:38:39,651 --> 00:38:42,986
This is really important,
these bits and bobs,
872
00:38:43,021 --> 00:38:46,189
of who this person
Jennifer Levin was
873
00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:48,024
and the false narrative
874
00:38:48,060 --> 00:38:51,961
of how she was portrayed.
875
00:38:51,997 --> 00:38:55,265
-Jennifer was a good kid.
She was responsible.
876
00:38:56,735 --> 00:38:59,936
She was excited about
going away to college.
877
00:38:59,971 --> 00:39:02,472
She had a bright future.
878
00:39:02,507 --> 00:39:03,807
She was my flesh and blood.
879
00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:05,342
Even just to think
how sad it was
880
00:39:05,377 --> 00:39:08,144
that she spent the last
few moments of her life,
881
00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:11,548
that someone didn't care
about her or value her,
882
00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,183
it's very sad.
883
00:39:13,218 --> 00:39:16,319
Can't get over that one.
884
00:39:16,355 --> 00:39:18,088
It's too painful.
885
00:39:19,091 --> 00:39:23,109
♪♪
886
00:39:23,145 --> 00:39:26,996
-Detective Sheehan.
887
00:39:27,032 --> 00:39:29,232
How are you, my friend?
-What's up?
888
00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:30,500
How you doin'?
How are you?
889
00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:32,168
-Okay.
How are you?
890
00:39:32,204 --> 00:39:33,903
-The thing that haunts me
891
00:39:33,939 --> 00:39:37,507
is to think that
he killed her here,
892
00:39:37,542 --> 00:39:40,343
brutally beat her
and strangled her.
893
00:39:40,379 --> 00:39:43,179
Every time I go to Central Park,
especially in that area,
894
00:39:43,215 --> 00:39:47,150
I'll bless myself
when I pass the tree.
895
00:39:47,185 --> 00:39:51,020
I'll never forget this case
as long as I live.
896
00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:54,257
♪♪
897
00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:55,992
-I think we expect our monsters
898
00:39:56,027 --> 00:39:59,028
to step out from behind trees,
899
00:39:59,064 --> 00:40:01,765
strangers that your mother
warns you about,
900
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,702
and, in fact,
it was the monster in our midst.
901
00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:09,406
It was the guy we hung out with,
we wanted to be with,
902
00:40:09,441 --> 00:40:10,573
because he was cool,
903
00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:14,744
and he was extremely handsome.
904
00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:16,713
The number of times I would
wake up and just think,
905
00:40:16,748 --> 00:40:21,184
"If I could just grab
Jennifer Levin by the hand
906
00:40:21,219 --> 00:40:24,921
and say, 'Don't go into
the park with him.'"
907
00:40:24,956 --> 00:40:30,427
♪♪
908
00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:35,131
-I remember when
the trial was over,
909
00:40:35,167 --> 00:40:39,068
I was contacted
by Robert Abrams,
910
00:40:39,104 --> 00:40:42,305
our attorney general.
911
00:40:42,340 --> 00:40:46,443
And he sent me a letter about
a bill that he's working on
912
00:40:46,478 --> 00:40:49,145
that said you can't bring up
913
00:40:49,181 --> 00:40:53,550
a crime victim's sexual past
into court.
914
00:40:53,585 --> 00:40:55,251
It's called
the Rape Shield Bill.
915
00:40:55,287 --> 00:40:57,387
I'd never read a bill
in my life.
916
00:40:57,422 --> 00:41:00,623
I called his office,
and I said to him,
917
00:41:00,659 --> 00:41:02,559
"What about deceased victims?
918
00:41:02,594 --> 00:41:04,894
They shouldn't have
their sexual past introduced
919
00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:07,730
in a case that's not
a sexual case."
920
00:41:07,766 --> 00:41:09,466
And he said,
"You're absolutely right.
921
00:41:09,501 --> 00:41:11,768
If I add it,
will you come to Albany?"
922
00:41:11,803 --> 00:41:14,938
And I was like, "You know what?
923
00:41:14,973 --> 00:41:16,439
This is what I was made to do.
924
00:41:16,475 --> 00:41:20,343
This is what Jennifer
would want me to do."
925
00:41:20,378 --> 00:41:24,147
And we formed a lobby group
called Justice for All.
926
00:41:24,182 --> 00:41:25,982
♪♪
927
00:41:26,017 --> 00:41:30,954
For 10 years, we managed to
pass 13 pieces of legislation
928
00:41:30,989 --> 00:41:33,923
to protect victims of crime.
929
00:41:33,959 --> 00:41:35,792
I'm very proud
of all the legislation
930
00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:38,828
I was able to pass the 10 years
that I worked in Albany,
931
00:41:38,864 --> 00:41:40,263
lobbying for victims' rights.
932
00:41:40,298 --> 00:41:41,297
We started Justice for All...
933
00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:42,532
A lot of people get through
934
00:41:42,567 --> 00:41:45,134
a lot of horrible things
and survive.
935
00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:48,538
I'm an example of it,
because, trust me,
936
00:41:48,573 --> 00:41:52,342
32 years ago,
I didn't think I'd be here now.
937
00:41:52,377 --> 00:41:54,377
But I am.
938
00:41:54,412 --> 00:41:56,613
♪♪
939
00:41:56,648 --> 00:41:58,348
And I tell you...
940
00:41:58,383 --> 00:42:00,216
that wasn't just me.
941
00:42:00,252 --> 00:42:02,118
It was me and Jen.
942
00:42:02,153 --> 00:42:13,263
♪♪
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