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-Robert Chambers told police that the victim,

18-year-old Jennifer Levin, attacked him

during a predawn sexual encounter in Central Park.

-I didn't mean to hurt her. I liked her.

-Robert Chambers -- a handsome preppy.

-I just can't see him doing anything like that.

-There seemed to be advances,

some sexual activity by Jennifer Levin,

and that led to this tragedy.

-Jack Litman was extremely dangerous.

He had absolutely no mercy for Jennifer.

It was all his client and his client was innocent.

-We needed to get past the veneer of Robert's face

and change public opinion about Rob Chambers.

♪♪

♪♪

[Waves crashing]

[Seagull crying]

-That summer, I lived with my parents in Southampton.

♪♪

I was with Jennifer Sunday night.

We'd spent the whole weekend together going to the beach.

She was really excited to go to Boston to college,

and she was excited, I think, to have a new chapter.

I do remember her mentioning Robert that weekend

and thinking he was cute,

and I thought, "Yeah, but he's kind of"...

I didn't use the word sketchy, but if that word

was around then, that's what I would have said.

I thought he was bad news.

I remember her saying,

"I might go to New York tomorrow,"

and actually mentioning Robert, that he was going to be there,

and I said, "No, don't. Stay,"

because it was the end of the summer.

I was going to college, she was going to college,

and we're not going to see each other,

and everything is dramatic when you're 18.

But she went to New York,

and then I went to sleep.

♪♪

The next morning, the phone rang.

I answered it, and a friend said,

literally before I could say hello,

"Jennifer Levin is dead."

"She was murdered."

And I remember crying.

I was a kid, and I just remember weeping.

♪♪

Jennifer's murder was almost like a 9/11 moment.

Everything kind of changed then.

It really shattered my vision of the world and life and safety.

♪♪

-If it's true, then by all accounts,

Robert Chambers was a proper prep-school boy

raised in an environment of what some might call an ivory tower,

and on that night of the strangulation,

two lives ended because, this evening,

Robert Chambers is sitting somewhere inside a jail cell

amidst a world that, up till now,

he'd never known existed.

-After Robert's arraignment, he was held without bail,

and he was sent to Rikers Island.

-How is he taking all of this?

-Obviously with great difficultly,

although he seems to be bearing up.

He has to be watched very closed.

It is a very difficult situation,

and it's all the more difficult, obviously, when you're in jail.

♪♪

-Robert was kept in without bail

to await the action of the grand jury.

-The biggest challenge going into the bail hearing

was that this is a high-profile homicide case.

-Rob, why did you do it?

-There was blanket media coverage in the tabloid press,

and there was tremendous pressure

to not grant bail in the case.

-During that time, Mike Sheehan and I

were trying to get to know as much as we could

about Robert Chambers

so we could oppose the bail application

and show the judge he was not the choir boy

that Litman painted him to be.

-In the weeks after the arrest,

we started researching Robert Chambers' background,

building a profile of who this kid is,

and at some point, I found out that his father

is a guy that I know --

Bobby Chambers.

He was in my parents' bar almost every day.

Bob had a decent job, but I knew he wasn't a millionaire.

He was separated from his wife, Phyllis Chambers,

who was an Irish immigrant, just like my dad.

She wouldn't give him a divorce because she was Irish Catholic.

But the strangest thing was,

he never mentioned anything about a child.

-We knew so little of the facts at the time.

These were not public figures, and we had to write about them.

Very shortly, we learned that Mrs. Chambers

worked as a private nurse for prominent families,

the Hammersteins and the Hearsts.

-We found out that she had worked for Jackie Kennedy

at one point.

She saw how the other half lived,

and she wanted her son to be in that world.

-As Mike Sheehan and I dug more deeply,

one of the things that became apparent

was Mrs. Chambers' aspirations for Robert.

-She wanted to put him in this environment.

He would get a great job, marry some wealthy girl,

have beautiful little rich children,

and, you know, and she wanted a Kennedy.

This was her vision.

-She wanted to enable that kind of world for Robert.

Robert was an altar boy for years,

a member of the Knickerbocker Greys.

-The Knickerbocker Greys was a very elite group

from the Upper East Side.

I knew them because I grew up with them,

and they were all upper-crust, wealthy kids.

-Phyllis pushed him into the places

that she thought would help him succeed,

but he couldn't.

He went to middle school at Saint David's.

He went to Choate. He was thrown out of Choate.

Then to the Browning School.

This time, he was thrown out for stealing a teacher's wallet.

-He kept getting kicked out.

He ended up at York Prep.

I went there, and I spoke to the headmaster.

They weren't too forthcoming.

♪♪

-We had this letter from 1983 by the headmaster.

"Robert Chambers entered York Prep in the 10th grade.

He is a tall, extremely handsome,

and charming young man,"

whatever that had to do with his credentials.

C minus, D minus, E, E.

He clearly wasn't keeping up in school.

1984 -- "Robert does not do his work

nor does he deal realistically with his situation.

There is a possibility, therefore,

that he will not graduate."

♪♪

Letter after letter was exactly like this.

♪♪

His mother had put all of her hopes on this kid,

and it seemed like every effort she made

to take him higher was wasted, and he would fail.

This is not the kid who we thought he was.

He was under a lot of pressure at home.

That was obvious. And he certainly wasn't rich.

We had to dig into what the real story was.

-My main focus was going out

and grabbing people who had anything to do with him

before, during, and after the murder,

hoping that he might have entrusted somebody

to tell them what actually happened in Central Park.

One of the friends was Alex Kapp.

-Last night, I was supposed to meet a girl named Alex Kapp

at Dorrian's at 10:30.

-She was Robert Chambers' girlfriend that summer,

so I went to interview her.

-Here is my high school yearbook, Chapin School.

[Chuckles]

There's me.

♪♪

I remember meeting Detective Sheehan.

♪♪

He came to the door. He was very polite.

He asked me about Robert.

I was torn.

I didn't want to say too much

because I didn't want to get him in trouble.

-And I told her, I said,

"I'm asking you to be frank with me and open with me.

Tell me about your relationship with this guy."

♪♪

-I remember I was at a party on the Upper West Side.

It was a girl who was a year ahead of me.

She'd gone to Choate,

and he was at the party.

And he was just staring at me all night.

I think I approached him and said,

"Are you mad at me or something? You're just staring at me so intently."

And he said something to the effect of,

"It's not that I'm mad at you.

It's just that you're so (inaudible) damn beautiful."

And, you know, I was 16,

and he's this handsome older guy.

He was 19, and he wasn't, like, a goofy, you know --

He was, like, a man, and it was...

And that was it.

He was quiet and respectful.

He put all the focus on me.

I'd never had a boyfriend. I'd never had any of that.

So it was a little bit like I was living out a movie.

I remember lying in bed dressed

just having, like, long talks staring at the ceiling

without feeling disdain for what we were growing up in,

about what we wanted to be.

We both wanted to be famous.

I knew I wanted to be acting,

but I don't know what his version of fame was.

I guess he wanted to make an impact,

but he didn't know what that looked like.

We talked about feeling like we didn't belong,

so I felt like we had this connection,

like he really saw me.

♪♪

I had sex with Robert maybe the third time we hung out.

It was my first time.

I felt like this was my first love,

so I wanted to cement that.

♪♪

-We interviewed Alex...

...but I knew she wasn't going to cooperate in the case.

-I was the opposite of helpful because I was --

my feelings were so wrapped up in this guy.

-So we were frustrated.

We had to find out more about this kid.

Linda and I put our heads together,

and the greatest advantage we had

was thanks to Robert himself,

when he brought the Filofax in.

-It was an address book with the names and numbers

of everyone he knew,

and it became one of the best tools we had.

-It had all of these different people

that he had come in contact with.

-Robert had given us a way to find out most of his secrets.

What we started to learn was shocking.

-Robert Chambers had given the police a small book

with addresses and phone numbers of his friends.

Sheehan and I tried to talk to anyone

who would talk to us from that book,

people who could create a picture for us,

but we didn't get much cooperation.

-Most people we came across were completely baffled

that Robert would do this to Jennifer,

to any girl, for that matter.

They were very defensive.

-Startling number of kids would say,

"That doesn't sound like Rob. He's such a good guy.

He must have had a bad moment in the park."

And we tried to talk sense to these kids,

that this was a homicide, not an accident.

♪♪

-Linda Fairstein called and asked if I could come in,

and she was really tough.

♪♪

I think everybody wanted to believe it was an accident,

but Linda really pressed me on it.

I remember that.

She was doing her job, too, right?

-One of his friends was so defensive of Rob,

I took Jennifer's autopsy photograph out of my folder,

and I put it down in front of him,

and I said, "Does this look like an accident?"

-She showed me the picture of Jennifer from her neck up,

which was, you know, obviously very upsetting to see.

♪♪

Clearly, it wasn't just an accident.

I was like anybody else. I wanted to know, you know,

how could that possibly happen?

-After a while, slowly but surely,

we started to get some traction.

Kids started sharing stories that this guy was,

you know, no altar boy.

♪♪

-In 10th grade, the parties at people's houses

started to get bigger,

and they would take place on Park Ave or Fifth or whatever.

One girl had a party. I think she went to Spence.

And after the party, it was discovered

that her mother's jewelry had been stolen

and her -- and her fur coat.

And then it happened again,

and we kind of started connecting the dots.

Robert Chambers and two of his friends

would go into the parents' bedrooms

and steal fur coats, pearl necklaces, and jewelry.

♪♪

-I remember, like, some crazy stories.

He went into a party of a friend of mine

and scaled the terrace

to go onto somebody else's apartment downstairs,

steal all of their stuff,

and then walk out with fur coats.

I think he felt that he was entitled to their stuff somehow,

on some level.

He didn't come from means the way a lot of the kids

in private-school circles did, so he just helped himself.

♪♪

-So now we know, Robert Chambers was really a sneak thief,

but in a major way, and all his friends knew it.

-People saw him stealing from their friends.

Weren't people stepping in and saying,

"Hey, that's not okay," myself included?

I mean, I never saw him actually steal the jewelry,

but I heard about it.

I knew of it, and I -- we were --

I was still friends with him.

You didn't see me saying anything to him.

So that's the kind of culture it was.

It was the glorious '80s,

and nobody wanted to be responsible.

♪♪

-As the investigation continued,

kids started sharing information about Robert,

and what started to emerge

is that Robert Chambers was a major, major drug abuser.

-We learned that Robert had been addicted to drugs

since he was 14.

He'd been in and out of rehab programs.

Drugs were a huge part of Rob's life,

and it was the same story

with so many of the young people in this group.

-When we were in seventh and eighth grade, there were drugs,

but it wasn't heavy drugs, at least not in my zone.

It was, like, pretty mild stuff, mostly pot.

It wasn't until 9th, 10th, 11th grade

when it sort of was way more hard-core.

♪♪

-Jessica and I were really good friends.

She would have crazy parties at her house

because her parents were always away at some country house,

and so we'd be in the city, like, just having fun.

-There was definitely a group that partied hard,

kids that did cocaine and harder drugs.

-Cocaine is a serious drug, you know?

There was a lot of that going around in high school.

-And then we found out that Robert Chambers

had a major cocaine habit.

-I definitely remember him having issues with drugs.

My first boyfriend, Spencer, and Rob partied a lot together,

and I was partying with them, also.

You know, but it was sort of the norm, I guess, at the time.

A lot of people were in and out of rehab and different places,

and some people got better, and other people couldn't stop.

♪♪

-He was always a very kind person,

as long as I've known him.

-But he had had a drug problem?

-In the courthouse this morning,

friends of Chambers said he had used drugs in the past.

Chambers' mother and father had nothing to say to reporters

as they left the courthouse for home this morning.

Their son remains behind bars at Rikers Island.

♪♪

-He had quite a past.

He was a kid with a lot of problems,

a very disturbed, unhealthy person

who needed a lot of help.

Knowing Jen, she probably felt sorry for him.

♪♪

-About a month before Jen's death,

I went with her to see her dorm, took the drive up to Boston,

and she started to tell me about a guy named Robert

and that he was kind of a lost soul

and she was trying to help him

and that he really loved her perspective and her point of view

and that she really was helping him,

that he was, you know, just as involved with her

as she was with him.

She really could tune into people really well.

She really paid attention to them,

and so they would come to her for advice and for support.

I think what she saw in Robert was what she saw

in, like, you know, the wounded animal.

She probably thought that she could fix him

and make him better.

Reflecting back,

I wonder whether I was not tuned in enough,

but Jen's good nature

trusted somebody that was, ultimately, very dangerous.

♪♪

-As we continued investigating,

making phone calls to the people in Chambers' life,

each one of those phone calls became of some value

to me and to Sheehan in this investigation,

and things kept escalating.

[Dial tone]

In the middle of September,

I called one of the friends in Robert's book,

got the mother of the family home

who said, yes, she knew Robert Chambers

but was not happy to talk about it

because he had stolen from them.

Her daughter had met Rob at a party,

and he asked her out the following Friday night.

The woman said she got home from work on Central Park West,

and the doorman said,

"That young man leaning against the mailbox

is the one waiting for your daughter."

The woman said to herself, "My lucky day.

Here is this really handsome guy waiting to see my daughter."

She took him upstairs.

They talked. The daughter came home.

Rob went into her daughter's bedroom to use the restroom,

and the kids left.

The next day, this woman got a phone call.

It was American Express saying,

"Do you know where your daughter's card is?

Someone is using the card."

AmEx described the young man.

He's about 6'4", black hair,

and this woman said,

"Oh, my God. That's Robert Chambers."

-Apparently Robert had called a friend of his,

Ralph Destino Jr.,

and the two of them got into a rented limousine,

which they used the credit card for,

and they went on, like, a shopping spree.

They didn't go to any discount shops, trust me.

-They went into a number of stores.

They got headphones, clothing, sweatshirts, sports gear,

all charged on the card.

The total amount was close to $3,000.

♪♪

The mother called Mrs. Chambers and said,

"Your son stole my daughter's credit card."

Mrs. Chambers said, "It's not possible. He's a good boy.

If you come over here tomorrow, my husband will be here.

Robert will be here. He'll apologize to you.

He has a drug problem. That's why this happened."

The mother accepted the apology.

The Chambers' request was that she not call the police

and that, in exchange, Rob would be on a plane to rehab.

I said, "Were you ever paid back the $3,000?"

She said, "I was sent a cashier's check

for the exact amount."

The name on the cashier's check was Ralph Destino.

He was then the president of Cartier.

He was the father of the other boy.

-Ralph Destino Sr. reimbursed this woman for the money.

♪♪

-It was such a clear example of how there was no accountability,

and it made us wonder

what else had been covered up along the way.

♪♪

We learned that in April of that year,

Phyllis Chambers did send Robert to Hazelden for drug rehab.

He was supposed to complete a six-month treatment program.

Instead, he dropped out, came home.

-He came back from LaGuardia Airport,

and he came to my house first.

He had told me he was visiting his aunt in Boston.

My mom was home, and he said he was really tired,

and he went up to my room to lie down for a bit,

for probably three or four hours.

I finally went up and checked on him,

and he had sweat through my entire bedding,

mattress, mattress cover,

and I was like, "What's wrong with you?"

And he was kind of woozy, and he said, "I don't know.

Maybe I've got the flu or something."

And so, I went and got my mom, and I said, "I think he's sick."

And, you know, she was like...

I think she just had a feeling that there was something off.

And I couldn't see it. Nobody saw it.

She saw it, but I was 16 years old.

You know, what's the worst he could be?

-It was just typical of him,

going to rehab and then just walk away.

"Eh, screw it. I'm not going to waste my time here."

And it was very, very frustrating for Phyllis.

-We found out from the kids in Rob's social circle

that his mother, Phyllis, was so upset

that he dropped out of Hazelden

that she did not let him live in the house,

and he was actually living in a basement apartment

helping the super paint buildings.

We heard over and over again from the kids

that Robert started using drugs again back in New York City.

It was clear that in the weeks leading up to Jennifer's death,

Robert was spiraling downward in a rapid fashion.

♪♪

-As the investigation continued, in the days that followed,

weeks and months that followed,

we just kept building a picture of Robert's last steps

leading up to the murder.

-The night before the murder, I ran into Robert on the street.

I hadn't seen him in months.

And we just stopped and talked for a little while.

He told me that his mom had kicked him out of the house,

and I just said, "Robert, you need to talk to her,

and you need to make this better.

You need to move back home."

That was the last time that I ever saw Robert.

-The night before the murder, he spent the night.

[Siren wailing]

My parents had gone on vacation.

It was the end of the summer,

and everybody was going to go back to college.

I was supposed to be staying with these two friends of mine.

I did not stay with my friends.

I stayed in my own apartment alone with him.

I felt very grown-up,

but there was also this feeling that something wasn't right,

and I was trying to push it away.

And it was 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning,

and he said, "All right. I'm going to go."

And I said, "Well, wait. Why are you going?"

And he's, "Oh, I've got to get back.

Do you have any money just so I can grab a cab?"

My mom had given me a $50 bill for the week.

That was my spending money.

And I said, "Sure. There's a $5 and a $50 in my wallet.

Take the $5."

And he left.

And for some reason, I just thought,

"I'm going to check my wallet."

And there was nothing in it.

Six minutes after he left, I called him, and I said,

"Hey, I think you took the $50 and the $5 by accident."

And he said, "I didn't take anything."

He brushed it off.

We hung up the phone, and I just remember lying there going,

"Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

He just stole my money out of my wallet."

And it all just hit me in a pretty terrifying way.

Like, I was scared.

The betrayal was so huge, and that's why, the next night,

I asked him to meet me at Dorrian's,

like, at 8:00, which was super-early for us.

We would never go before 10:30, 11:00, but I asked him to meet me early

because I was going to confront him.

I wanted to tell him, like, "This is wrong,

and I know you stole my money."

He said he'd meet me at 8:00, but he was late.

8:30, 9:00, 9:30, 10:00.

And this girl came up to me.

She said, "I'm Jen."

We were all making these little macrame bracelets

for each other at the time, you know,

those things where you take the string and you make them,

whatever, and you just give them to everybody.

It just tells you how young we were.

And she gave me her bracelet off her wrist,

and she was like, "We should totally be friends.

This is my friendship bracelet to you."

And she was sort of laughing a little,

and I just thought, "That's weird.

Like, who are you?" You know, it just was odd.

I felt like I was being laughed at.

I think about 10:30 or 11:00, he finally showed up,

and he sort of looked at me and walked right past me,

and I was just enraged.

And it just all went off the rails at that point.

I don't know what possessed me.

I had some condoms.

I took the condoms, and I threw it in his face.

"You just lied to me. You stole from me."

You know, "Screw you."

[Indistinct conversations]

He was mad.

I embarrassed him.

He did not like that.

♪♪

[Birds chirping]

♪♪

After the murder, about 50% of the people said,

"If it hadn't been for you, he wouldn't have snapped."

It was terrible to feel in some way

like I had some responsibility for this.

The other 50% sort of said the opposite.

"You're so lucky because it could have been you."

And there was a part of me, my young self,

that said, "But he wouldn't have killed me."

And then I thought, "Wait, but he could have killed me

a month before or two years later

or hours before."

Like, it wasn't the circumstances

that led him to kill her.

It's nothing she did, it's nothing about the timing

or what happened that night or anything that happened with me.

You don't just kill somebody.

You kill somebody because you're a killer.

♪♪

♪♪

-Robert Chambers, who turns 20 on Thursday,

will spend at least the next two nights

the way he spent the last three weeks -- locked up.

-Chambers is in protective custody at Rikers.

Still, there are reports that he is being taunted by other inmates.

That's something his attorney told News 4

that his client was afraid would happen.

-And notorious cases produce lots of anxiety,

seem to focus everybody's anger and frustration

on one individual.

He's a very good-natured young man,

well-liked, nonaggressive, nonviolent.

What occurred here is completely out of character.

-Robert Chambers' bail application

was at the end of September,

or a month after the death of Jennifer.

Jack Litman played heavily on the fact

that this was Robert Chambers' first arrest,

that he came from a good family,

he had been educated at a number of good schools.

So there was this image of Rob

that he wanted to give the judge.

Sheehan and I, we had reconstructed

the last five years of his life

and could show that this was a dissolute,

sociopathic drug addict

who cared about no one but himself.

-We had information about the burglaries

and about Robert's drug addiction.

These were huge problems for him,

and they became huge problems for us.

How can we ensure that we would get bail?

The judge, Howard Bell, was under tremendous pressure

to not grant bail in the case,

so we wanted to bring out positive facts

that helped to support our defense.

And one thing that was extremely helpful

was when the Archbishop of Newark,

Theodore McCarrick, submitted a bail letter for Robert Chambers.

-The McCarrick letter was presented by Jack Litman

as part of the bail application to get Robert out of jail,

and what it did, in fact,

was throw all the weight of the Catholic Church behind Robert.

-McCarrick was on the fast track to be, like,

the number-one cardinal in the United States,

which he eventually became.

People were deathly afraid of McCarrick.

He had tremendous clout.

-In the name of the Father and of the Son...

-At that time, the church was extremely powerful

in New York and New York politics,

so I thought it carried a good deal of weight.

-When we learned about the letter,

I was like, "How'd that happen?"

-I wanted to know why someone of McCarrick's stature

was backing this young man.

McCarrick did not return my phone calls.

I had a detective drive me to Newark.

When I spoke to McCarrick,

he admitted not knowing any of the facts of the case,

and he obviously hadn't spent any one-on-one time with Robert,

which he acknowledged.

I asked McCarrick over and over again

why he would help Robert get out of jail,

and he didn't have an answer

other than his faith would have him do this.

♪♪

But then I learned about Phyllis Chambers' relationship

with the Catholic Church.

-Phyllis was very religious.

The family had a long, long history

with the Catholic Church.

-She had cared for Cardinal Cooke in his final days.

Because of that, she had endeared herself

to the Archdiocese of New York,

and I guess that's how they came to know McCarrick.

-It emerged that McCarrick was the godfather

of young Bobby Chambers.

-This letter from McCarrick really rattled the judge

and I think confused the judge that maybe this is a good man.

-Judge Howard Bell granted bail to Robert Chambers,

so bail was set,

but his family did not have the means for a large bail

or for a bail bond.

-Robert Chambers' bail was $150,000.

It was a lot of money for that family.

-There were certain people in the church

who gave their own personal money.

There was one monsignor who put up his entire life savings

for bail for Robert Chambers.

He said, "I'm just following Jesus Christ.

I'm helping a person in need."

♪♪

-He was out free, walking on the streets.

Everything about this was a shock to us --

unbelievable.

-The day that Chambers was released,

I remember I finished my day at work.

I went home. I had dinner with my fiancé.

And I was ready to go to sleep when the news came on.

Litman had held a press conference.

He had dressed Robert Chambers up

and had prepared a statement for Robert

which was delivered as cooly

and in the same calculated voice as the admission.

-I regret that nothing I can say or do

can undo the terrible tragedy that has occurred.

I am happy to be out of jail and very grateful

for the support of my family, relatives, and friends.

-I was furious.

It was the beginning of what the PR campaign

was now going to be with Robert Chambers

no longer in an orange jumpsuit put out on TV.

He's handsome. He's charming.

He's the good boy.

-Robert Chambers got out on bail, and now he's free,

and I really have to give credit to Judge Howard Bell

because it was very controversial

to grant bail in the case, but it was warranted.

-Chambers had been an altar boy,

and family friends included the Catholic Church.

A priest put up bail money.

-Monsignor Thomas Leonard had a parish in Inwood

and offered to let Robert stay in the parish home.

-When the New York Archdiocese is saying,

"Robert Chambers can go to one of our churches

and we'll look out for him," that carries a lot of weight.

-All of this was supposed to cloak Rob

in the holiness of the Catholic Church.

This was a good boy from a religious family.

"Look, he's living with the priests.

They're not afraid of him. Nobody has to be."

A picture appeared in the tabloids

of Rob walking out of the rectory

with a black turtleneck and a Walkman.

I was angry at the shocking casualness

of this man awaiting trial for murder.

♪♪

-I don't think it was a week or two later

that Robert Chambers was in SoHo

walking in and out of restaurants.

He had absolutely no problem going right back

not only into society,

but into Jennifer's neighborhood.

It was horrible.

♪♪

-When Robert got out on bail, I went up to see him.

I had lied and told my mom I was going up to the Met

to go see art, and I ran up to his apartment.

His mom was home, and he said, "Let's go to my room."

I remember thinking, "I don't know

that I should go to your room,"

but I did.

I remember we started doing Mad Libs, which is so weird.

I was probably there for half an hour.

I'm not even sure what we talked about.

I just was so excited to see him, and he looked sad.

You know, he was -- I felt sad for him.

I felt like he had been through this horrible thing,

and he was isolated, and he'd been in jail,

and he was in his house.

It's the strangest thing to look back on,

but I did want to comfort him.

And then I looked under his desk,

and he had newspapers stacked all the way up

to the other side of the desk.

I sort of looked at the newspapers,

and I looked at him, and I said, "Boy, well, I guess" --

Jokingly, I said, "Well, I guess you got what you wanted.

You're famous."

And he got this look on his face,

and it was in this split second,

and I was like, "Oh, my God. I got to get out of here."

His whole face -- I don't know how to describe it.

It was like a smile, like a smirk.

That was the moment when it turned for me.

He was enjoying it.

He was enjoying the notoriety and the fame of it,

and that's when I thought, "Oh, this isn't a good man."

♪♪

And I slowly got up, and I sort of backed out of his room,

heart racing but trying to stay super-calm,

and he's like, "Where are you going?"

And I was like, "Yeah, I should probably go.

You know, it's late. I should" --

Still, my heart is still...

And I got to the street,

and I ran as fast as I've ever run home.

I threw out the letters he wrote me.

I confessed everything to my parents.

I vowed that I would never speak to him again, and I didn't.

♪♪

[Sighing] All right.

[Clears throat]

-A couple of weeks after Rob had been released on bail,

I got a call from a detective.

And she said,

"I have information about Robert that you should know,"

and what she told me had the potential

to radically change the case.