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-A young woman's body
was found in Central Park.
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-She was identified
as Jennifer Levin.
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-She was just a bubbly,
outgoing, wonderful kid --
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beautiful girl.
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-My mother said,
"They strangled my baby."
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-This kid put up
the fight of her life.
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I mean, who does that?
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That person has to pay.
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-Police began to question
friends,
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and a name kept coming up.
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-Robert Chambers.
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Oh, who's Robert Chambers?
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-She was just having her way.
I was screaming in pain.
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I couldn't take it anymore.
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I yanked her as hard as I could,
and she just flipped over me.
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And then she didn't move.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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-Alright.
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-Robert Chambers was giving
his version
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of the events in Central Park
between him and Jennifer Levin.
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-Uh, last night I was supposed
to meet a girl named Alex Kapp
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at Dorrian's at 10:30,
and I got to Dorrian's late.
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I got there about 11:30.
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-He was talking freely.
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He hadn't asked for a lawyer,
he did not seem nervous.
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He was telling a story,
and he was sticking to it.
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-According to him, she's the one
who suggests going to the park.
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She's the one who's
the sexual aggressor.
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-She started to play with me.
She started jerking me off.
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You know, I started to say,
"Stop it, stop it. It hurts."
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I just grabbed and yanked her
as hard as I could,
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and she just flipped over me and
landed right next to the tree.
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And then she didn't move.
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-He had no intent to hurt her.
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It an accident as to
how she wound up dead.
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-So I...
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[Groans]
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I was lying like this...
-Okay.
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-...okay, on my back,
and I couldn't move,
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and I managed to get
this hand free, my legs are out
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and she's facing this way,
sitting, really, on my chest.
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So I reached up like this
and grabbed,
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and I came down
like that on my hand.
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She came over this way
and landed right there,
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right next to the tree.
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So I stood up, and, uh, I said,
"Jennifer, let's go.
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Let's get out of here now,"
and she didn't move.
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So I went over
and I shook the body,
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and there was nothing happening,
no response.
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At that --
-A dead body?
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-No, I had no idea.
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I thought she was kidding
around.
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So I shook her,
and there was nothing.
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She didn't move a muscle,
not a finger, anything.
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-I wouldn't say he was arrogant,
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but he certainly
gave the impression
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that there was no reason why
we should not believe his story
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and that
he should just be let go.
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-No, I didn't want to --
I was scared.
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I didn't want to touch her.
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All I did was cross the street
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and sit down
and sit there and stare.
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No, I just stared.
That's all I did.
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That's all I could do.
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[Police radio chatter]
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-And when you see the people
who arrive,
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the ambulances
and the other people,
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you just disappear and --
-No, I stayed there,
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and I watched.
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I didn't say anything.
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-You stayed there and watch
the police come
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and find the body
that you left of a young woman
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that you knew
that you had relations with?
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You just left her in the grass,
somebody's daughter?
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You know...
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-After that, I just walked home,
and I just went to sleep.
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And when I woke up,
I thought it was a dream.
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-You thought this was
all a dream?
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-When I woke up at first,
I was like,
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you know,
"That had to be a dream."
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And about 10 minutes after that,
the police rang up
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and came upstairs
to ask me some questions,
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and then I've been here
since 1:30.
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-I pressed him, because I simply
didn't believe him.
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I thought his story was nonsense
from the beginning.
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-No.
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But I'm not gonna do anything
to harm her at all.
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What am I gonna do, hit her
with a stick or something?
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-His explanation as to how this
happened just doesn't jive
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with what she looks like
on that autopsy table.
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She was all busted up,
and it was -- It was gruesome.
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You didn't have
to be a doctor --
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You could just see this
with your own two eyes.
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-I haven't seen the photos,
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and I'd really rather
not see the photos.
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-I took the pictures out, and I
threw the photos on the desk.
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-Yes, I can see that.
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Yeah.
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No, I doubt I would be laughing.
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It makes no sense
that somebody could do that.
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It makes no sense that somebody
could put
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your hands behind your back
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and push you down and
then get on top of your chest.
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So, you can move if you have
no arms to push anybody off --
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-No way.
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-Do you think
I'm gonna give her the consent
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to squeeze my balls
and jerk me off?
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Why not?
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I'm -- I'm sure that I've heard
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about other men being raped,
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men being held up, tied up.
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Well, good.
You're lucky.
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You're very lucky.
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It's not a ve--
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Good. That really makes
no difference to me,
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you see, 'cause it happens.
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It can happen.
It did happen.
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Her friends knew
she was all over me.
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She told her friends
she definitely gonna (no audio)
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tonight, my friends know
I didn't want to go with her,
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I didn't even want
to talk to her,
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they knew I wanted to go home,
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they knew I was there
to see other people.
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I didn't mean to hurt her.
I liked her very much.
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She was very nice person,
easy to get along to,
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and easy to talk to.
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She was just too pushy,
and she liked me more than
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I thought -- more than
anybody actually thought.
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-He had this entire story
down pat in his head.
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This was rough sex,
this poor boy --
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you know, she was
hurting him in Central Park.
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-It was an affront
to your common sense.
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Will that be enough
to get a conviction?
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I think it would be enough
to get a conviction.
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-We all stood up, and, Robert,
he said to me,
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"Well, are we finished?"
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And I said, "What are
you talking about?
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What don't you understand?
You're under arrest.
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You're being charged
with murder."
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So he sat back down, like,
shaking his head.
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He seemed shocked.
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♪♪
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-Robert Chambers is transported
down to Central Booking
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and goes through
the booking procedure.
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It became apparent when
we went outside
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that this was gonna be
a large news story
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from the amount of people
that were there.
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-From a detective's point
of view,
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everything's tied up
in a package.
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We thought this was a home run.
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But that's not what happened.
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-A suspect is under arrest
in the murder of a young woman
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whose body was found
in Central Park,
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and police say
he was not a stranger.
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-Robert Chambers had confessed
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to causing the death
of Jennifer Levin,
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and it was front-page news
everywhere.
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-Chambers came into this
Central Park Precinct
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on his own yesterday afternoon.
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He was asked to come in
for questioning.
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When police saw him,
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they noticed scratches
on his face and chest.
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After several hours questioning,
they arrested him
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and charged him
with second-degree murder.
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They think the scratches
were made by Jennifer Levin
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as she tried
to fight off his attack.
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-From the beginning, we expected
this was gonna be a huge story.
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-Attractive, popular,
a week away
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from starting college
in Boston --
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Jennifer Levin had so much
going for her,
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and then her life ended.
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-19-year-old Robert Chambers,
described as a handsome preppy
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from an upper-class
neighborhood,
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now faces a murder rap.
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-It just wasn't
your normal homicide.
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There was something to to this
that was gonna have legs
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and was gonna be in the papers
for a while, and it was.
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-When we saw the young person
who was accused of killing her,
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everybody in the news room
stopped in their tracks,
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because here was a young man
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who looked like
the Hollywood Adonis.
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We found out he came from
the Upper East Side,
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lived in a beautiful
neighborhood,
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attended private schools.
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How did this happen?
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-She was 18, a prep school
graduate on her way to college.
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He was part of the same New York
circle, young and well-off.
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-It's the haves, it's the world
of privilege -- private schools,
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Upper East Side,
a Kennedy-esque-looking
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young man accused of murder.
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-The victim and the accused,
both prep school educated,
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came from what people called
"good homes."
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-You had two young white people
presumed to be of privilege,
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both had attended different
private schools, they'd come
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from a very well-known bar
in the Upper East Side,
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so there was underage
drinking --
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All of those elements just drove
this case to media attention.
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-This sort of story was not
supposed to happen
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to privileged children
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who go to private schools
made out of mansions
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who do not leave home
without American Express.
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♪♪
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-Being a tabloid reporter,
when you wake up in the morning,
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what do you think of?
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You think of -- "I've gotta --
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I gotta get that story."
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That never leaves you.
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Even 10 years after
I've retired,
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I still lust
for that scoop every day.
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Why was Robert Chambers
a good story?
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Well...
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you have youth,
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you have money,
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you have sex,
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you have death.
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It just gripped the city.
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♪♪
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-That night,
I went to my apartment.
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I was in a very bad way.
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Everyone else in my family
had somebody.
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You know, my husband
had his wife,
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and Danielle had Jeff,
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and my parents
had each other, and...
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and I was single,
and I could not --
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I just couldn't cope.
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I was in bad shape.
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My daughter had a great group
of friends, very popular,
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always around people,
happy, doing well in school.
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Honestly, I would never
have expected that.
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It was shocking to me.
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-After she died,
people would tell me
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to be strong for my parents,
and, um, I don't --
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I don't think people
truly realize --
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You know, losing a child's
an awful thing.
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I don't think people realize
how -- how close siblings are.
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It was kind like we were two
sides of a coin,
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and that just one side
was just sheared off of me.
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I'm an only child now.
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♪♪
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-Do you have anything else
you'd like to say
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about the judge's decision?
-Not -- Not really.
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I hope you can appreciate that
feeling at this point.
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-I remember very shortly after
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Robert's father
hired an excellent trial lawyer.
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-Not guilty.
249
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-Jack Litman. Wow.
250
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Jack was one of the best around.
251
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I think he was
a brilliant lawyer,
252
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and Chambers was very lucky
to have him, indeed.
253
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-Chambers remains behind bars
at Rikers Island.
254
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His attorney says he may use
the insanity defense.
255
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-An insanity plea
an option here?
256
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-It's always an option,
but right now the plea
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is not guilty,
and the defense says
258
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that this was an unfortunate,
accidental killing.
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Thanks a lot.
260
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-Jack Litman
was one of the preeminent
261
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criminal defense attorneys
at that time.
262
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I had just left the District
Attorney's office,
263
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and I took a position with Jack,
264
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and I remembered
I got into the office,
265
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and he said, "Oh,
we got retained on this case."
266
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This was a challenging,
fascinating, high-profile case,
267
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and he wanted it.
268
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-Jack had a little extra edge,
269
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dogged when he got on a case,
kind of relentless.
270
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But the most striking thing
was that it didn't bother him
271
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to attack victims of crime.
272
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-If you're not zealous
in representing your client,
273
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then you shouldn't be
in a courtroom.
274
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-Well, now, what --
what does "zealous" mean?
275
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-Zealous means that you do
everything you can
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within the bounds of law
to represent your client.
277
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-If he could dirty up
the reputation of the victim,
278
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he would do so,
279
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and he would do it as far
as he could get away with it.
280
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He would go right to the edge.
281
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-Mr. Litman, first of all, um,
282
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I heard some reports
in the newspaper
283
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that said that he had confessed
to some degree.
284
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-He made statements that
indicated, among other things,
285
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that there seemed to be advances
by Jennifer Levin
286
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and that a series of events,
sexual and otherwise,
287
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led to this --
uh, to this tragedy.
288
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[Car horn honks,
sirens wail in distance ]
289
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-I'll never forget it.
290
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Saracco said to me,
"Did you see the paper?"
291
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I said, "No."
292
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He said, "Well, do yourself
a favor, go buy
293
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The Daily News or The Post.
294
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The headlines are "Rough sex."
295
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-Chambers claims she forced him
into a sexual encounter
296
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that got rough, hurting him.
297
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-Could this have happened
during rough sex?
298
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"Rough sex?
299
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I never heard of it,
but tell me more."
300
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-Lurid press accounts
have suggested
301
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Chambers was the victim
forced into sex.
302
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-There wasn't, I don't think,
a person --
303
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certainly in New York,
and maybe the country --
304
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that weren't reading
those headlines.
305
00:15:49,182 --> 00:15:51,349
I mean, they were planted
for a reason.
306
00:15:54,187 --> 00:15:56,354
They were planted
by Jack Litman.
307
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-She was attempting
to perform some sexual activity,
308
00:16:00,327 --> 00:16:03,127
which he asked her to desist
from -- from doing.
309
00:16:03,163 --> 00:16:08,366
And when she didn't,
uh, this tragedy ensued.
310
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-Did she really hurt him,
311
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and he didn't realize
his strength during rough sex?
312
00:16:15,408 --> 00:16:17,642
Was this an accident?
313
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-Jack Litman was
extremely dangerous.
314
00:16:23,383 --> 00:16:26,851
He was very smooth,
he was very bright.
315
00:16:26,886 --> 00:16:30,989
He had absolutely no mercy
for Jennifer.
316
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It was all his client
and his client was innocent.
317
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-Jack Litman had flipped
the story
318
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saying that it was an accident
and was taking it
319
00:16:42,369 --> 00:16:46,838
out of a murder charge
down to an accidental death.
320
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It was so shocking.
321
00:16:49,442 --> 00:16:52,710
The world of the case
was twisting
322
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and turning upside down.
323
00:16:55,048 --> 00:16:57,715
-One thing is clear --
The exact nature of what was
324
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going on, uh, between Robert
and Jennifer Levin,
325
00:17:00,887 --> 00:17:04,355
uh, that night, uh, will have
to be explored later at a trial.
326
00:17:06,393 --> 00:17:07,492
It really is.
327
00:17:10,929 --> 00:17:13,965
♪♪
328
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obert Chambers told police
that the victim,
329
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18-year-old Jennifer Levin,
was really to blame,
330
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that she attacked him during
a predawn sexual encounter
331
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in New York Central Park.
332
00:17:26,980 --> 00:17:30,848
-People tend to frown
on tabloid newspapers,
333
00:17:30,884 --> 00:17:37,522
however, the New York Post
circulation was 1,060,000.
334
00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:41,626
I was named in Newsweek
as "Mr. Blood and Guts"
335
00:17:41,661 --> 00:17:46,964
and not at all ashamed of
that title, not ashamed at all.
336
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,800
-By all accounts,
Robert Chambers
337
00:17:48,835 --> 00:17:51,369
was a proper prep school boy,
brought up in an environment
338
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of what some might call
an ivory tower.
339
00:17:54,207 --> 00:17:56,140
-Robert Chambers,
the handsome preppy --
340
00:17:56,176 --> 00:17:57,708
-The preppy murder --
-The preppy murder --
341
00:17:57,744 --> 00:17:59,043
-Preppy murder --
-Preppy murder --
342
00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:01,479
-Preppy murder --
343
00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:04,782
-And all of a sudden,
it's the preppy murder case.
344
00:18:07,253 --> 00:18:09,887
-It's a frenzy --
It's a feeding frenzy, you know,
345
00:18:09,923 --> 00:18:11,656
and the press just keeps
346
00:18:11,691 --> 00:18:15,226
throwing that log on the fire
and people keep buying it.
347
00:18:15,261 --> 00:18:16,861
-He didn't do it.
348
00:18:16,896 --> 00:18:19,530
-On the block where Chambers
lives with his mother,
349
00:18:19,566 --> 00:18:22,733
90th Street between
Fifth and Madison Avenues,
350
00:18:22,769 --> 00:18:25,503
his neighbors described
the defendant as a gentleman.
351
00:18:25,538 --> 00:18:29,006
-He is the nicest --
He's friendly.
352
00:18:29,042 --> 00:18:31,375
He just wo-- I just can't see
him doing anything like that.
353
00:18:31,411 --> 00:18:34,245
-He was always
a very kind person.
354
00:18:36,382 --> 00:18:40,251
-The media kind of,
almost weirdly, were on, like,
355
00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:44,222
Team Robert Chambers,
even though he'd killed her.
356
00:18:44,257 --> 00:18:46,190
-Robert Chambers --
because he was white,
357
00:18:46,226 --> 00:18:48,726
lived on the Upper East Side,
and because he was drop-dead
358
00:18:48,761 --> 00:18:52,697
handsome --
was getting special treatment.
359
00:18:52,732 --> 00:18:54,232
-This must have been
an accident,
360
00:18:54,267 --> 00:18:58,402
because he was too good-looking
to be violent.
361
00:18:58,438 --> 00:18:59,704
-Amongst the youngsters here
at York Prep
362
00:18:59,739 --> 00:19:01,205
who knew Robert Chambers,
363
00:19:01,241 --> 00:19:02,874
there is a feeling
of shock and disbelief.
364
00:19:02,909 --> 00:19:04,442
-Oh, I think every girl
in this school
365
00:19:04,477 --> 00:19:06,210
had a crush on him, you know.
366
00:19:06,246 --> 00:19:08,045
People would drool when he
walked down the block, you know,
367
00:19:08,081 --> 00:19:09,714
and then the guys just like --
368
00:19:09,749 --> 00:19:11,782
I mean,
he's like the perfect guy.
369
00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:16,387
-I-I just couldn't believe it.
370
00:19:16,422 --> 00:19:20,224
Rob and my boyfriend, Spencer,
were the best of friends,
371
00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:25,129
and the three of us
would always hang out.
372
00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:26,898
You walk into a room,
and here's,
373
00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:30,902
like, this super-handsome,
six-feet-tall, chiseled jawbone,
374
00:19:30,937 --> 00:19:32,937
piercing blue eyes
and black hair
375
00:19:32,972 --> 00:19:35,773
and he just made heads turn.
376
00:19:35,808 --> 00:19:37,742
He was, like, the pied piper,
and all the girls would just be,
377
00:19:37,777 --> 00:19:40,077
like, following along.
378
00:19:40,113 --> 00:19:42,446
I didn't believe
it was possible.
379
00:19:42,482 --> 00:19:45,750
-A friend called and said,
"Oh, my God,
380
00:19:45,785 --> 00:19:50,454
they arrested Robert Chambers,"
and it was shocking.
381
00:19:50,490 --> 00:19:54,759
He was a grade behind me
in high school.
382
00:19:54,794 --> 00:19:57,261
I had a good friendship
with Robert,
383
00:19:57,297 --> 00:19:59,764
and he had a group
of three or four friends,
384
00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:01,265
and I had a group
of three or friends,
385
00:20:01,301 --> 00:20:05,269
and we would all hang out
a lot on the weekends.
386
00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:08,940
He was a really
kind of quiet guy.
387
00:20:08,975 --> 00:20:11,776
There was nothing aggressive
about him.
388
00:20:11,811 --> 00:20:15,313
It certainly didn't feel like it
fit his character.
389
00:20:15,348 --> 00:20:17,848
None of it made any sense to me.
-I mean, to be honest,
390
00:20:17,884 --> 00:20:21,452
I never ever saw Robert,
uh, violent,
391
00:20:21,487 --> 00:20:23,955
or I never saw him
lose his temper, even.
392
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:28,326
You wanted to think it was
a horrible mistake or accident.
393
00:20:28,361 --> 00:20:33,197
It's really hard to fathom
that happening.
394
00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,301
-I went to the day school,
395
00:20:37,337 --> 00:20:41,472
which was on 90th Street
between Fifth and Madison.
396
00:20:41,507 --> 00:20:44,675
Robert lived across the street
from the day school,
397
00:20:44,711 --> 00:20:47,645
so we would go to his house,
398
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,981
and so that's when I started
to get to know Robert,
399
00:20:50,016 --> 00:20:54,318
and we were friends --
which is slightly weird,
400
00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:57,989
because my best friend
was Jennifer Levin,
401
00:20:58,024 --> 00:21:00,658
so I knew both of them.
402
00:21:00,693 --> 00:21:04,695
I remember her saying to me,
"I want to meet Robert."
403
00:21:04,731 --> 00:21:08,032
I had known him for six or seven
years at that point.
404
00:21:08,067 --> 00:21:10,001
Why she wanted to meet him?
405
00:21:10,036 --> 00:21:15,339
She must have seen him
at Dorrian's or around.
406
00:21:15,375 --> 00:21:17,842
And I was like, "Sure.
I can do that."
407
00:21:17,877 --> 00:21:20,845
[Vocalizing softly]
408
00:21:22,882 --> 00:21:28,686
So, this is a diary from 1986.
409
00:21:28,721 --> 00:21:35,359
It says here, "February 14th,
Carla's champagne party."
410
00:21:35,395 --> 00:21:37,228
There you go --
"Call Robert C."
411
00:21:37,263 --> 00:21:39,196
Here's his phone number.
412
00:21:39,232 --> 00:21:41,098
And that was to make the date
413
00:21:41,134 --> 00:21:44,201
so that he would come to Carla's
champagne birthday party
414
00:21:44,237 --> 00:21:47,738
so he could meet Jen.
[Lively conversations]
415
00:21:47,774 --> 00:21:50,041
It was Valentine's Day.
416
00:21:50,076 --> 00:21:55,046
I remember introducing them
right away.
417
00:21:55,081 --> 00:21:59,216
And I remember
Jennifer talking to him.
418
00:21:59,252 --> 00:22:02,119
He's a very stoic,
non-communicative guy.
419
00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:05,222
But you could see that she was
trying to engage him.
420
00:22:05,258 --> 00:22:07,792
She was being flirtatious.
421
00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:09,560
I remember them having
a good time
422
00:22:09,595 --> 00:22:11,629
but all of us having
a good time together.
423
00:22:15,802 --> 00:22:19,904
I remember speaking to Jen
in June and she said,
424
00:22:19,939 --> 00:22:22,440
"I've seen Robert four
or five times,
425
00:22:22,475 --> 00:22:24,075
and we've had a really
nice time together,
426
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:25,743
and I really like him."
427
00:22:25,778 --> 00:22:29,280
And I was like, "That's great.
I'm so psyched for you."
428
00:22:29,315 --> 00:22:32,450
What I took by that was it meant
that they were sexually active,
429
00:22:32,485 --> 00:22:34,418
and that she liked him.
[Static]
430
00:22:37,623 --> 00:22:41,092
-Um, I...
431
00:22:41,127 --> 00:22:42,993
We didn't really have --
432
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:45,730
She felt it was more special
than I did.
433
00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:49,100
I had sex with her three times,
434
00:22:49,135 --> 00:22:50,935
twice at
two different friends' house
435
00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:52,503
and once on a roof.
436
00:22:54,340 --> 00:22:56,941
-That summer I went away,
437
00:22:56,976 --> 00:23:00,311
so I was kind of out
of the picture for two months,
438
00:23:00,346 --> 00:23:02,513
which is a big deal at that age.
439
00:23:02,548 --> 00:23:07,184
And when I got back, I spoke
to Jen on the phone immediately,
440
00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:08,986
and I was like,
"Oh, I miss you so much.
441
00:23:09,021 --> 00:23:10,688
I can't believe it. I haven't
spoken to you in so long."
442
00:23:10,723 --> 00:23:12,323
She's like, "Yeah.
Robert and I,
443
00:23:12,358 --> 00:23:14,024
we've been having
a really nice time together.
444
00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:16,527
We've been dating and seeing
each other all summer."
445
00:23:16,562 --> 00:23:17,628
That was it.
446
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,806
-No, not at all.
447
00:23:28,841 --> 00:23:31,142
I w-- I was always nice to her.
448
00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:32,877
I was just always nice to her,
'cause we got along.
449
00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:33,978
She's very easy to talk to.
450
00:23:34,013 --> 00:23:35,646
She's a really nice girl.
451
00:23:38,384 --> 00:23:41,652
-Literally -- literally --
452
00:23:41,687 --> 00:23:45,156
10 days after I spoke to Jen
on the phone,
453
00:23:45,191 --> 00:23:47,992
my mother calls me,
454
00:23:48,027 --> 00:23:54,331
and she says,
"Jess, Jennifer has been killed.
455
00:23:54,367 --> 00:23:57,168
Jennifer Levin is dead."
456
00:23:57,203 --> 00:24:01,172
And I literally lose it.
457
00:24:01,207 --> 00:24:04,508
Like, I just don't even know
what that means.
458
00:24:04,544 --> 00:24:07,211
This person who you had
just spoken on the phone with,
459
00:24:07,246 --> 00:24:11,382
who was your best friend
was killed?
460
00:24:11,417 --> 00:24:12,883
He killed her.
461
00:24:12,919 --> 00:24:15,386
He (no audio) killed her.
462
00:24:15,421 --> 00:24:17,188
Why?
463
00:24:17,223 --> 00:24:19,924
Robert said Jennifer was
this sort of aggressor
464
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:21,859
and this attacker.
465
00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:24,028
It's not accurate.
466
00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:27,031
The narrative that is out there
about her life
467
00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:29,867
and who she was
is not accurate.
468
00:24:29,902 --> 00:24:31,569
And that's why I'm here
talking to you,
469
00:24:31,604 --> 00:24:33,904
and that's why it means
so much to me.
470
00:24:33,940 --> 00:24:37,041
People need to find out
the truth about Jennifer,
471
00:24:37,076 --> 00:24:39,877
who this person
Jennifer Levin was.
472
00:24:39,912 --> 00:24:41,545
Why did he kill her?
473
00:24:41,581 --> 00:24:43,581
What happened between them?
474
00:24:47,152 --> 00:24:54,091
♪♪
475
00:24:54,126 --> 00:25:01,365
♪♪
476
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,767
-There were 1,000 people there,
477
00:25:03,803 --> 00:25:09,540
and it was so overwhelming.
478
00:25:09,575 --> 00:25:14,044
-I didn't believe she was dead
until I saw her in the casket.
479
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,213
In fact, I wanted
an open casket,
480
00:25:16,249 --> 00:25:18,215
which we don't normally
have in the Jewish religion,
481
00:25:18,251 --> 00:25:22,953
so that I could be sure
that that was my sister.
482
00:25:22,989 --> 00:25:25,756
-I leaned in
to kiss her forehead,
483
00:25:25,791 --> 00:25:29,393
but it didn't look like Jen.
484
00:25:29,428 --> 00:25:32,396
[Voice breaking] That was it.
485
00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:34,031
She wasn't there.
486
00:25:36,335 --> 00:25:38,602
-When something like this
happens to somebody you know,
487
00:25:38,638 --> 00:25:40,571
I mean,
especially somebody like her --
488
00:25:40,606 --> 00:25:42,973
-This child
was a blessing to life.
489
00:25:43,009 --> 00:25:45,409
She will be life forever.
Thank you.
490
00:25:45,444 --> 00:25:47,745
-If you knew Jennifer
and you knew Robert,
491
00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:49,413
you basically wouldn't think
this would happen,
492
00:25:49,448 --> 00:25:53,083
but it did, and it's a shame.
493
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,585
It really is.
494
00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:55,786
-He hurt her and he killed her,
495
00:25:55,821 --> 00:25:57,421
and it was a terrible way
to die,
496
00:25:57,456 --> 00:25:59,456
and she died very violently,
497
00:25:59,492 --> 00:26:01,825
and that's just
an awful way to die.
498
00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:05,796
-They're hounding everybody.
-Trying to make a case --
499
00:26:05,831 --> 00:26:07,464
-It's -- They're just --
They're building a case
500
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,433
to make him look like
he's innocent, and he's not.
501
00:26:09,468 --> 00:26:11,001
-He's not.
-He's not. He killed her.
502
00:26:11,037 --> 00:26:12,970
There's no accident.
-How do you know that?
503
00:26:13,005 --> 00:26:14,104
-How do I know that?
-He said he did.
504
00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:15,673
-He said he did.
It's no accident.
505
00:26:15,708 --> 00:26:17,808
Just stop.
What are you doing?
506
00:26:17,843 --> 00:26:19,276
-Just stop. Come on.
507
00:26:19,312 --> 00:26:20,344
[Static]
508
00:26:23,015 --> 00:26:25,950
-In August of 1986,
509
00:26:25,985 --> 00:26:28,953
I was in my office,
510
00:26:28,988 --> 00:26:31,155
and my secretary --
511
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:33,958
one of the first things
he handed me
512
00:26:33,993 --> 00:26:37,161
was a piece of paper
in his writing.
513
00:26:37,196 --> 00:26:41,966
It said Jack Litman stopped by,
and that Jack's comment was
514
00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:43,801
"You ought to take this case.
515
00:26:43,836 --> 00:26:46,704
We could have such
a good time together."
516
00:26:46,739 --> 00:26:49,139
It was one of the most shocking
517
00:26:49,175 --> 00:26:53,344
and just inappropriate
expressions I'd ever seen.
518
00:26:53,379 --> 00:26:54,845
Shortly after that,
519
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,714
Bob Morgenthau,
the District Attorney,
520
00:26:56,749 --> 00:26:59,850
came to me
and expressed his concern
521
00:26:59,885 --> 00:27:02,152
about the confession on tape.
522
00:27:02,188 --> 00:27:03,988
[Static]
523
00:27:08,894 --> 00:27:12,229
Because Steve Saracco
was the one
524
00:27:12,264 --> 00:27:13,697
that took
the Chambers statement,
525
00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:16,667
who was asking
the questions on video,
526
00:27:16,702 --> 00:27:19,003
Steve was gonna have to be
a witness in the case,
527
00:27:19,038 --> 00:27:23,173
so that made Morgenthau think
that perhaps this was the time
528
00:27:23,209 --> 00:27:26,844
to take him off
the case as the prosecutor.
529
00:27:26,879 --> 00:27:30,514
Mr. Morgenthau said
it would make a statement
530
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:35,352
to have a woman prosecutor
as my lead to the community.
531
00:27:35,388 --> 00:27:38,756
"I really think you should
prosecute this case."
532
00:27:42,595 --> 00:27:46,864
-I got notified that the case
was no longer going to be mine,
533
00:27:46,899 --> 00:27:50,901
and to say that I was upset --
534
00:27:50,936 --> 00:27:53,404
You could say that.
[Chuckles]
535
00:27:53,439 --> 00:27:56,774
To say that I was real upset --
536
00:27:56,809 --> 00:27:58,575
You could say that, too.
537
00:27:58,611 --> 00:28:01,578
To say that I'm still upset
33 years later --
538
00:28:01,614 --> 00:28:02,713
I'm half-Italian.
539
00:28:02,748 --> 00:28:05,049
Of course I'm still upset.
540
00:28:07,753 --> 00:28:08,986
I mean, the first thing,
541
00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:13,424
she had never
tried a homicide before.
542
00:28:13,459 --> 00:28:18,228
-When I got to the D.A.'s office
out of law school in 1972,
543
00:28:18,264 --> 00:28:19,730
the times were very different.
544
00:28:19,765 --> 00:28:22,933
There were 180 lawyers
on the staff.
545
00:28:22,968 --> 00:28:25,736
Seven of those lawyers
were women.
546
00:28:25,771 --> 00:28:30,107
No woman had ever tried
a murder case in that office.
547
00:28:30,142 --> 00:28:35,279
There was the idea that this
work was too tawdry for a woman.
548
00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:37,247
Leslie Snyder was
the first woman
549
00:28:37,283 --> 00:28:41,752
allowed to handle homicides,
and I was the second.
550
00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:47,925
I remember as vividly as
if it were yesterday
551
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,927
meeting with the Levins.
552
00:28:49,962 --> 00:28:53,263
I did not instill confidence
in the Levins
553
00:28:53,299 --> 00:28:54,765
because I was so nervous.
554
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,101
I was running my fingers
through my hair.
555
00:28:57,136 --> 00:29:00,637
-She had this habit
of doing this,
556
00:29:00,673 --> 00:29:03,273
which, you know,
I love to this day,
557
00:29:03,309 --> 00:29:09,012
because it showed me that she's
emotionally involved in this.
558
00:29:09,048 --> 00:29:12,149
She was upset over the case,
559
00:29:12,184 --> 00:29:14,284
over the way
it was being portrayed,
560
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,187
over the attack
of the defense attorney.
561
00:29:17,223 --> 00:29:20,657
We felt lucky that we had Linda.
562
00:29:20,693 --> 00:29:23,026
-I said to the Levins
I'm going to fight
563
00:29:23,062 --> 00:29:27,131
this fight for them
and for Jennifer.
564
00:29:27,166 --> 00:29:31,301
I want everyone to know that
this is a young woman
565
00:29:31,337 --> 00:29:35,139
whose whole life
was on the horizon ahead
566
00:29:35,174 --> 00:29:39,309
and that she had
everything to live for.
567
00:29:39,345 --> 00:29:41,678
-Detectives learned she had
been with Chambers
568
00:29:41,714 --> 00:29:45,349
in Dorrian's Restaurant,
a so-called "preppy hangout"
569
00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:48,552
at Second Avenue at 84th Street
in Manhattan.
570
00:29:48,587 --> 00:29:50,854
-This is a tale of sex
and violence
571
00:29:50,890 --> 00:29:52,189
among privileged teenagers
572
00:29:52,224 --> 00:29:53,991
on the Upper East Side
of Manhattan.
573
00:29:54,026 --> 00:29:55,159
Magee Hickey, "News 4."
574
00:29:55,194 --> 00:29:56,827
Back to you, Sue.
575
00:29:56,862 --> 00:29:59,496
I was the only female reporter
in the news room
576
00:29:59,532 --> 00:30:04,334
who was "a preppy" from the
Upper East Side at that point --
577
00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:08,372
60th to 96th Street,
Fifth Avenue to the East River.
578
00:30:08,407 --> 00:30:11,575
It was a very rarified,
preppy little world.
579
00:30:11,610 --> 00:30:13,544
We were all very well off.
580
00:30:13,579 --> 00:30:16,013
"What does your father do?"
"Oh, I don't know.
581
00:30:16,048 --> 00:30:18,682
Uh, you know, five generations
back someone
582
00:30:18,717 --> 00:30:20,217
made some money," you know?
583
00:30:20,252 --> 00:30:22,186
If you have to ask "What does
your father do?"
584
00:30:22,221 --> 00:30:23,554
then you're not a preppy,
you know what I mean?
585
00:30:23,589 --> 00:30:26,023
It's just a whole other world.
586
00:30:26,058 --> 00:30:28,358
-I was struck when I started
meeting
587
00:30:28,394 --> 00:30:30,194
some of these young people
588
00:30:30,229 --> 00:30:32,863
that their parents had no idea
where they were,
589
00:30:32,898 --> 00:30:34,898
and some of the girls
were as young as 16 --
590
00:30:34,934 --> 00:30:36,099
16, 17.
591
00:30:36,135 --> 00:30:38,869
Jennifer Levin was 18.
592
00:30:38,904 --> 00:30:40,737
Their parents went to Europe,
593
00:30:40,773 --> 00:30:42,539
their parents were out
in the Hamptons,
594
00:30:42,575 --> 00:30:44,541
their parents didn't know
if they were sleeping over
595
00:30:44,577 --> 00:30:47,711
at a friend's house or whatever.
596
00:30:47,746 --> 00:30:51,048
It was just a world
that was totally foreign to me.
597
00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:53,383
-What did we learn
about these young kids?
598
00:30:53,419 --> 00:30:57,387
Did they live a promiscuous
lifestyle?
599
00:30:57,423 --> 00:30:59,423
It raised a lot
of questions like,
600
00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:05,229
"What exactly happened that
night at Dorrian's Red Hand bar?
601
00:31:05,264 --> 00:31:09,399
-I got to Dorrian's late.
I got there at about 11:30.
602
00:31:09,435 --> 00:31:12,436
-During the confession,
Robert told us
603
00:31:12,471 --> 00:31:13,937
he was in Dorrian's
604
00:31:13,973 --> 00:31:17,808
and then Jennifer came in
and started bugging him.
605
00:31:17,843 --> 00:31:20,611
We have to find out more
about what happened.
606
00:31:20,646 --> 00:31:24,948
What happened at Dorrian's
the night of Jennifer's death?
607
00:31:28,286 --> 00:31:31,255
♪♪
608
00:31:31,290 --> 00:31:35,225
-Mike Sheehan and I,
we talked to everyone
609
00:31:35,261 --> 00:31:36,927
who would talk to us,
610
00:31:36,962 --> 00:31:41,899
trying to put together the story
of the events of the night
611
00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:44,434
at Dorrian's --
very difficult.
612
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:48,138
-It -- It took us
quite some time to figure out,
613
00:31:48,173 --> 00:31:51,708
but they eventually painted
the picture of what happened.
614
00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:58,749
-On August 26, 1986,
615
00:31:58,784 --> 00:32:02,319
it was a very happy night.
616
00:32:02,354 --> 00:32:05,756
There was a big crowd
at Dorrian's.
617
00:32:05,791 --> 00:32:08,325
These kids were about to go off
to college,
618
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,327
and it was one of
the last nights
619
00:32:10,362 --> 00:32:12,963
they were going to be together.
620
00:32:12,998 --> 00:32:17,968
Jennifer was going to be going
off to college a week later.
621
00:32:18,003 --> 00:32:21,104
She was so excited.
622
00:32:21,140 --> 00:32:23,173
Jennifer was gonna be spending
the night
623
00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:26,276
at the home
of her friend Alex LaGatta.
624
00:32:26,312 --> 00:32:28,345
Alex LaGatta had left Dorrian's
625
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:32,015
with a guy
she was interested in.
626
00:32:32,051 --> 00:32:35,252
So Jennifer was alone.
627
00:32:38,324 --> 00:32:40,791
According to
Chambers' statement,
628
00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:43,126
he had gone
to Dorrian's that night
629
00:32:43,162 --> 00:32:46,797
with an expectation of meeting
a girl he'd been dating.
630
00:32:46,832 --> 00:32:51,635
-Last night I was supposed
to meet a girl named Alex Kapp.
631
00:32:51,670 --> 00:32:52,903
-Robert and I were dating,
632
00:32:52,938 --> 00:32:54,838
and it was pretty
jaw-dropping for me.
633
00:32:54,873 --> 00:32:56,473
You know, I was 16,
634
00:32:56,508 --> 00:32:58,976
and he's this extraordinarily
handsome older guy.
635
00:32:59,011 --> 00:33:01,545
He was 19.
That was a big deal.
636
00:33:03,248 --> 00:33:06,483
That night
he said he'd meet me at 8:00,
637
00:33:06,518 --> 00:33:09,186
but he was late, really late --
638
00:33:09,221 --> 00:33:12,322
8:00, 8:30, 9:00, 9:30,
10:00, 10:30,
639
00:33:12,358 --> 00:33:15,826
and I think about 10:30 or 11:00
he finally showed up.
640
00:33:15,861 --> 00:33:20,163
And he sort of looked at me
and walked right past me,
641
00:33:20,199 --> 00:33:26,003
at which point I was now
in just -- in a fury.
642
00:33:26,038 --> 00:33:29,706
-I got to Dorrian's late.
I got there at about 11:30.
643
00:33:29,742 --> 00:33:32,175
I was hanging out
with my friends.
644
00:33:32,211 --> 00:33:35,178
And then Jennifer came over
and said that she wanted to talk
645
00:33:35,214 --> 00:33:38,682
to me about something important,
so I said, "Okay."
646
00:33:38,717 --> 00:33:42,252
-Jennifer had talked to her
friends many times
647
00:33:42,287 --> 00:33:46,356
about previously having
had a sexual encounter
648
00:33:46,392 --> 00:33:48,358
with him that was consensual.
649
00:33:48,394 --> 00:33:51,361
She had said to two of her
best friends that it was,
650
00:33:51,397 --> 00:33:53,930
"The best sex I'd ever had."
651
00:33:53,966 --> 00:33:56,066
-But then Alex Kapp,
the girl I was supposed to meet,
652
00:33:56,101 --> 00:33:58,702
that I haven't talk
to all night came over.
653
00:33:58,737 --> 00:34:01,038
-I don't know what possessed me.
654
00:34:01,073 --> 00:34:03,373
I had some condoms.
655
00:34:03,409 --> 00:34:06,710
I walked up to him, and I said,
"You know what" --
656
00:34:06,745 --> 00:34:08,745
super dramatic --
"use these with someone else,
657
00:34:08,781 --> 00:34:11,048
'cause you're not gonna get
the chance to use 'em with me!"
658
00:34:11,083 --> 00:34:13,250
And I threw it in his face.
659
00:34:13,285 --> 00:34:15,385
The condoms went everywhere,
landed in his lap,
660
00:34:15,421 --> 00:34:17,054
all over the floor.
661
00:34:17,089 --> 00:34:19,389
[Laughter]
662
00:34:19,425 --> 00:34:21,725
Everybody was laughing at him,
663
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,094
which he did not like.
664
00:34:24,129 --> 00:34:26,196
-Alex started yelling at me
in front of everybody.
665
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:29,900
That I stood her up,
that I didn't meet her on time,
666
00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:32,302
that I didn't come over
and talk to her.
667
00:34:32,337 --> 00:34:35,072
And while this was going on,
Jennifer was laughing at me.
668
00:34:36,508 --> 00:34:38,275
Yeah, because she asked me
to talk to her,
669
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:41,078
and then I'm getting in trouble,
and she's laughing at me,
670
00:34:41,113 --> 00:34:43,246
and also the fact that the girl
I'm supposed to meet,
671
00:34:43,282 --> 00:34:45,582
Alex, the girl I like,
is yelling at me
672
00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:49,252
in front of everybody,
so it was embarrassing.
673
00:34:49,288 --> 00:34:53,090
-He was mad.
He was really mad.
674
00:34:53,125 --> 00:34:55,926
I-I embarrassed him.
675
00:34:55,961 --> 00:35:00,130
So he did not like that at all.
676
00:35:00,165 --> 00:35:02,432
I stayed for a bit after,
677
00:35:02,468 --> 00:35:04,334
but I don't think
we spoke again.
678
00:35:04,369 --> 00:35:07,471
-So, Alex left, and then
I walked to the bar
679
00:35:07,506 --> 00:35:09,172
'cause I was all pissed off now.
680
00:35:11,143 --> 00:35:13,443
-Well, "A", myself, 'cause
I ended up standing Alex up
681
00:35:13,479 --> 00:35:16,279
and, "B," Jennifer 'cause
she's just laughing at me.
682
00:35:16,315 --> 00:35:18,115
-According to
Chambers' statement,
683
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:20,784
Robert Chambers held
Jennifer responsible.
684
00:35:20,819 --> 00:35:23,954
He was angry that she had
come on to him in the bar,
685
00:35:23,989 --> 00:35:26,356
that she had flirted with him.
686
00:35:28,327 --> 00:35:31,995
-Jack Litman and I interviewed
friends of Jennifer Levin,
687
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:35,665
and we had about
a dozen signed statements
688
00:35:35,701 --> 00:35:38,168
from Jennifer Levin's friends
about things
689
00:35:38,203 --> 00:35:39,669
that they saw on that evening
690
00:35:39,705 --> 00:35:42,706
or things that they knew
about the relationship.
691
00:35:42,741 --> 00:35:47,644
And they were consistent with
Robert's videotaped statement,
692
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:53,049
that she left with him,
they went to Central Park,
693
00:35:53,085 --> 00:35:57,053
and that she wanted
to be intimate with him.
694
00:35:57,089 --> 00:36:00,991
That helped to support, um,
our -- our defense,
695
00:36:01,026 --> 00:36:02,492
that during rough sex
696
00:36:02,528 --> 00:36:07,998
he wound up accidentally
killing Jennifer Levin.
697
00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:12,502
-According to Jack Litman,
Jennifer was a "bad girl."
698
00:36:12,538 --> 00:36:15,405
What other kind of girl
would go into Central Park
699
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,176
wanting a sexual encounter
with a guy?
700
00:36:19,211 --> 00:36:24,581
Jennifer Levin was being blamed
for causing her own death.
701
00:36:24,616 --> 00:36:27,584
-You can characterize it
as "blame the victim" defense,
702
00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:30,387
you can characterize
it however you want.
703
00:36:30,422 --> 00:36:34,224
But we were going on
what happened that evening.
704
00:36:34,259 --> 00:36:37,194
Jennifer Levin's actions were,
in fact,
705
00:36:37,229 --> 00:36:40,230
corroborated by her friends.
706
00:36:40,265 --> 00:36:43,033
Jack Litman had a job to do.
707
00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:46,570
He said, "What I'm doing
is defending my client."
708
00:36:46,605 --> 00:36:49,372
People didn't like it.
709
00:36:49,408 --> 00:36:51,541
Our response to that would be,
710
00:36:51,577 --> 00:36:55,378
"Well, we didn't make this up."
711
00:36:55,414 --> 00:36:57,914
-Jennifer Levin seemed to be
following Robert Chambers
712
00:36:57,950 --> 00:37:00,050
around that night.
713
00:37:00,085 --> 00:37:04,287
It appears that he attempted
to rebuff her
714
00:37:04,323 --> 00:37:07,290
and perhaps ask her
to stop some sexual activity
715
00:37:07,326 --> 00:37:09,025
she was performing.
716
00:37:13,799 --> 00:37:16,399
-Jack Litman --
I wound up hating him
717
00:37:16,435 --> 00:37:18,235
as much
as I hated Robert Chambers.
718
00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:19,903
I did.
719
00:37:19,938 --> 00:37:23,406
Because I saw the way
he operated,
720
00:37:23,442 --> 00:37:26,243
and he was brutal.
721
00:37:26,278 --> 00:37:30,413
-Litman was really
a very dangerous adversary.
722
00:37:30,449 --> 00:37:34,784
I was afraid that Robert would
get away with this crime.
723
00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:40,423
The Levins really put
all their trust in me,
724
00:37:40,459 --> 00:37:43,460
and I really didn't
want to fail them.
725
00:37:44,462 --> 00:37:46,997
-Now, how could something
like this have happened
726
00:37:47,032 --> 00:37:50,100
at 4:30 in the morning
and in the park --
727
00:37:50,135 --> 00:37:52,769
Were you surprised
about all that?
728
00:37:52,804 --> 00:37:54,437
-I know that Jennifer
went out at night
729
00:37:54,473 --> 00:37:59,009
and she stayed out late,
but it was her last week here,
730
00:37:59,044 --> 00:38:00,777
she wanted to do
all the partying here,
731
00:38:00,812 --> 00:38:02,979
say goodbye to her friends,
732
00:38:03,015 --> 00:38:05,949
and that's really it.
733
00:38:05,984 --> 00:38:07,517
I mean, I'm --
734
00:38:07,552 --> 00:38:10,687
I don't know think she went
voluntary into the Park.
735
00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:13,857
-You know, when we first heard
that Jennifer made it known
736
00:38:13,892 --> 00:38:16,860
that she wanted to have sex
with Robert,
737
00:38:16,895 --> 00:38:18,662
I didn't know what to think.
738
00:38:18,697 --> 00:38:21,464
I mean, you know, back then
it was still a little squeamish,
739
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,466
and you didn't hear about women
740
00:38:23,502 --> 00:38:27,671
talking about wanting to
have sex with someone.
741
00:38:27,706 --> 00:38:30,340
With Jennifer,
all we were painted
742
00:38:30,375 --> 00:38:33,209
was this picture
of a promiscuous girl.
743
00:38:33,245 --> 00:38:36,479
Could it have been
that she "asked for it"?
744
00:38:36,515 --> 00:38:38,648
-The expression
"blame the victim"
745
00:38:38,684 --> 00:38:41,384
just exploded in this case.
746
00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:43,653
-You just have to use
your common sense.
747
00:38:43,689 --> 00:38:46,389
Obviously she's too young
to use her own.
748
00:38:46,425 --> 00:38:50,160
-The media made it
very black and white.
749
00:38:50,195 --> 00:38:52,829
You knew who the bad guy was,
750
00:38:52,864 --> 00:38:57,400
and
you knew who the bad girl was.
751
00:38:57,436 --> 00:38:59,502
-That whole, like,
"she asked for it" thing,
752
00:38:59,538 --> 00:39:01,838
when she started
to get slut shamed
753
00:39:01,873 --> 00:39:04,841
for wearing a short skirt.
754
00:39:04,876 --> 00:39:08,345
Even my little 16-year-old self
was like, "This is not right."
755
00:39:08,380 --> 00:39:11,047
It was terrible.
756
00:39:11,083 --> 00:39:13,183
-The way that it was made out
to be was as if, you know,
757
00:39:13,218 --> 00:39:15,018
she just met this guy at a bar,
758
00:39:15,053 --> 00:39:18,355
and, you know, she went to
Central Park with him at night.
759
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:21,024
No, she would never have done
anything like that.
760
00:39:21,059 --> 00:39:24,227
She knew him,
and she trusted him.
761
00:39:24,262 --> 00:39:26,896
-When I saw the headlines
of what happened to Jennifer
762
00:39:26,932 --> 00:39:30,700
and the sort of tabloid
kind of horror of it,
763
00:39:30,736 --> 00:39:32,702
it sounds like she's a slut.
764
00:39:32,738 --> 00:39:38,074
Yeah, so I'm -- I'm sure she was
sleeping with multiple people.
765
00:39:38,110 --> 00:39:39,275
But, you know what?
766
00:39:39,311 --> 00:39:42,412
She's a teenager
playing the field.
767
00:39:42,447 --> 00:39:44,881
[Chuckles]
She's 18 years old.
768
00:39:44,916 --> 00:39:46,883
Believe me, I'm sure
Robert Chambers was sleeping
769
00:39:46,918 --> 00:39:48,451
with anybody he could get.
770
00:39:48,487 --> 00:39:52,222
I'm sure he had sex with
multiple woman at that time.
771
00:39:52,257 --> 00:39:53,923
Well, he's a guy.
Right?
772
00:39:53,959 --> 00:39:56,626
When you say that about a woman,
it suddenly implies
773
00:39:56,661 --> 00:39:59,396
that there's something
wrong with her.
774
00:39:59,431 --> 00:40:01,064
Like, this is why we're here,
right?
775
00:40:01,099 --> 00:40:04,467
I mean, this is honestly
what we need to deal with here.
776
00:40:06,605 --> 00:40:11,574
♪♪
777
00:40:11,610 --> 00:40:15,245
-There were definitely moments
when the Levins and I
778
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,450
thought we were alone against
Jack Litman and the world.
779
00:40:20,485 --> 00:40:25,088
The problem that we had was
that all anyone could talk about
780
00:40:25,123 --> 00:40:28,458
was how good looking
Robert Chambers was.
781
00:40:28,493 --> 00:40:32,328
It so played into his version
of the events
782
00:40:32,364 --> 00:40:33,763
that this must
have been an accident,
783
00:40:33,799 --> 00:40:36,099
because nobody
who's that good looking
784
00:40:36,134 --> 00:40:39,302
would have to hurt a girl
who was with him.
785
00:40:39,337 --> 00:40:43,773
We needed to get past
the veneer of his face.
786
00:40:43,809 --> 00:40:49,279
We needed to change public
opinion about Robert Chambers.
787
00:40:49,314 --> 00:40:52,782
-Linda said to me, "We have
to find out more about Robert."
788
00:40:52,818 --> 00:40:54,617
I said, "I'm here.
I'm here for you.
789
00:40:54,653 --> 00:40:59,856
Let's -- Let's buckle up
our seats and let's get going."
790
00:40:59,891 --> 00:41:02,792
The greatest advantage we had
was Robert Chambers'
791
00:41:02,828 --> 00:41:05,695
overstuffed telephone book,
if you will,
792
00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:09,632
that Chambers had with him
when he was arrested.
793
00:41:09,668 --> 00:41:13,470
The very first thing I did when
I got my hands on that Filofax
794
00:41:13,505 --> 00:41:17,307
is I copied the entire thing.
795
00:41:17,342 --> 00:41:18,975
We had all of these different
people,
796
00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:22,645
and he kept their names
and addresses and phone numbers,
797
00:41:22,681 --> 00:41:26,816
and they were immensely helpful
in building a profile
798
00:41:26,852 --> 00:41:29,886
of who this kid is.
799
00:41:29,921 --> 00:41:32,822
-And I made a rule with Sheehan
800
00:41:32,858 --> 00:41:35,992
that we would not leave
my office for the night
801
00:41:36,027 --> 00:41:38,828
unless we had made
three phone calls
802
00:41:38,864 --> 00:41:42,832
to reach three people
to see what they knew,
803
00:41:42,868 --> 00:41:46,669
what they could tell us
about him.
804
00:41:46,705 --> 00:41:50,406
What I found out shocked me.
805
00:41:50,442 --> 00:41:52,509
I heard over and over again
from people
806
00:41:52,544 --> 00:41:54,010
I was trying to interview
807
00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:57,013
"I have information
about his background
808
00:41:57,048 --> 00:41:59,349
that you should know."
809
00:41:59,384 --> 00:42:01,184
It stopped me in my tracks.
810
00:42:01,219 --> 00:42:03,720
-I was just totally,
totally shocked this guy
811
00:42:03,755 --> 00:42:06,856
was, you know, no altar boy.
812
00:42:06,892 --> 00:42:09,526
What kind of a monster are you?
813
00:42:09,561 --> 00:42:12,529
-We had to take off that mask.
814
00:42:12,564 --> 00:42:15,231
If people knew the truth,
we could destroy
815
00:42:15,267 --> 00:42:20,169
the whole picture
71288
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