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[INDISTINCT VOICES ECHOING]
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Sir, I'm gonna ask your permission
for an additional pat down.
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You're clear.
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Thank you.
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- Oh.
- It's all right.
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WOMAN: Enjoy your flight.
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[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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[PIANO PLAYING
"FLY ME TO THE MOON"]
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- No. No, it's you.
- Sorry.
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- It's all you.
- Nah, go ahead.
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Wait.
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Justin Sanderson.
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Is this you?
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Didn't I see you debating on TV?
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- Yeah.
- Well, then... then, this is yours.
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Um... Okay, well, how about
in the name of civility,
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I, uh, I get this for you.
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- Oh, Justin, I'm honored.
- Okay.
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Never met a magazine writer before.
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Joe Beaumont.
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- Oh, uh, Justin Sanderson.
- Ah.
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Oh. You wouldn't mind...
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Would you sign it for me?
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Sure. Be happy to.
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- To Joe. With an "E."
- Joe.
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"Joe... with...
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an 'E.'"
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- Thank you. Be seeing you.
- Okay.
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WOMAN: [OVER PA] At this time,
Northern Gold Star Airlines
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would like to invite
its Privileged Class passengers
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- [LINE RINGING]
- to Flight 1015,
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now departing at 10:15,
to please board at Gate B15.
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- WOMAN: Justin?
- Honey.
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So glad I got you
before my flight took off.
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Hi.
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Are you okay?
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I am so sorry about before.
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I... I really didn't mean
to raise my voice like that.
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I don't think this is a good idea.
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I know. I just... I need the work.
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Honey, you're not listening.
You promised me.
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No, I know. I... I am listening to you.
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And I am keeping that promise.
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- How?
- Well, because this assignment
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will be the opposite of high stress.
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You don't know that.
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Because Tel Aviv is not Yemen, hon.
It's...
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Look. I saw some fucked-up shit,
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and... it shook me up.
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- It would've shook anyone up, but...
- I know, honey.
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Remember what Dr. Cravat says:
the past is the past.
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Past is the past.
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And that will help me
get through the now.
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That's right.
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As will thinking about you.
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Okay. We're good?
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I love you.
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Oh, one last thing.
I just noticed my flight number is 1015,
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and it's October 15th.
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And also, the departure time
was delayed from 9:30 to 10:15.
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What are the odds of that?
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- [BEEPS]
- Have a safe flight.
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Hi. How are you?
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[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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Thanks.
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Welcome aboard.
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Good flight today?
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Oh, yeah.
Very good. Welcome aboard.
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Thank you.
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I'm sorry, but only an infant can travel
in a seat with a parent.
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Children two to 11 need their own seat.
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I'm sure they'll discount the fare for you.
We're only two-thirds occupancy.
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But you said first class is full.
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Yeah. I would have to move you
to the main cabin.
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- JUSTIN: Excuse me.
- Yes, but...
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That's actually my seat there,
and they can have it if they need it.
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- Yeah, that's fine.
- Yeah.
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- Is that okay?
- Yeah.
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Thank you. That's very nice of you.
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- So is there a place I should sit?
- Yes. Main cabin should be pretty thin
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on that side, towards the back.
Stretch out.
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All right.
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WOMAN: [OVER PA] Flight attendants,
prepare doors for departure.
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Cross check.
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[THUNDER RUMBLING]
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[THUNDER CRASHES]
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WOMAN: [OVER PA] At this time,
on behalf of the crew
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of Flight 1015 from Washington, DC,
to Tel Aviv,
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we'd like to welcome you
on board and invite you
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to take the safety information
card out of the seat pocket
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in front of you, and follow along
as we perform our safety demonstration.
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WOMAN 2: [OVER PA]
As we prepare for takeoff,
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we would like to remind you
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to please remain in your seats
until the captain has turned off
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the "fasten seat belt" sign,
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indicating then that it is safe
to move about the cabin.
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To get us on our way,
make sure your seat is up,
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all electronic devices are put away,
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and your tray table is stowed.
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All exits on this airplane
are clearly marked.
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Excuse me.
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Take a moment to locate the nearest one.
Keep in mind, it may be behind you.
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If you have a carry-on,
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push it all the way
under the seat in front of you.
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MAN: [ON RECORDING]
Chapter One:
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"The Mystery of
Northern Gold Star Flight 1015."
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The passengers were buckled up,
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and the safety demonstration had started.
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It was already raining outside
at Dulles International Airport,
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and a large thunderstorm
was brewing over the Atlantic.
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Little did the passengers
of Flight 1015 know,
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in less than an hour,
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their plane would disappear
from flight control radar,
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never to be heard from again.
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Oh, my God.
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[THUNDER CRASHES]
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I'm Rodman Edwards,
the host of Enigmatique,
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and I'm going to lead you through
the last moments of Flight 1015.
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Past is past. Past is past.
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NARRATOR: Settling in for
a 13-hour transatlantic flight
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to a land rife with ancient
mysteries is Justin Sanderson.
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Mr. Sanderson's occupation
is to uncover unbiased truth.
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But with an hour left
before certain doom,
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he must ask the right questions
of the right people.
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Landing at the truth this time
will require an unscheduled stopover...
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in The Twilight Zone.
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You're traveling
through another dimension,
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a dimension not only of
sight and sound but of mind.
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It is the middle ground
between light and shadow,
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between science and superstition.
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And it lies between
the pit of one's fears
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and the summit of one's knowledge.
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You are now traveling through
a dimension of imagination.
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You've just crossed over
into The Twilight Zone.
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RODMAN:
Chapter Two: "Ominous Signs."
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There are other aviation mysteries
we've explored on this podcast:
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the crash of Transeast Airlines
Flight 22 out of Miami Beach,
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or the anomaly of
Global Airlines Flight 107 out of Buffalo.
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Yet what makes Flight 1015 unique
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is the number of unusual details
surrounding its disappearance...
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- I'm Captain Donner.
- ...starting with Captain Donner.
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CAPTAIN: We're pretty
confident of a nice, smooth flight
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over the pond and on to Tel Aviv...
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Hey, did the pilot just say
his name was Captain Donner?
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What?
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Just... Never mind.
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Sorry.
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I'm sorry, this is gonna
sound very weird, uh...
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but do you think you could
listen to this real quick?
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Those were on your ears, bro.
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Yeah. But... this podcast,
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uh, says that this flight...
like this flight...
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is going to vanish into the ocean.
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Yeah. So, if you wouldn't mind
just listening just for a sec...
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- Hey, yo, I don't want to get lice.
- No, you...
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Jesus.
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RODMAN: Captain Donner noted
to air traffic control
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the presence of a flock of
cormorants near Flight 1015.
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In aviation circles,
a dead bird is a harbinger
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of bad things to come.
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Shortly after takeoff,
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as the plane maneuvered
around a thunderstorm,
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the flight crew reported
that a bird struck the engine at 10:21 p.m.
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[PANTING]
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The past is past.
The past is past.
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The past...
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is past.
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The past...
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is past.
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Past...
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...is past.
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[CLEARS THROAT]
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[CHIMES]
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Hi.
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One sec.
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No, no. Please.
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Please.
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[CHIMES REPEATEDLY]
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- Would you?
- I got you, all right.
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Okay, uh...
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Yep.
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Hello. Sorry to bother you.
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But...
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[LAUGHS] Um...
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Is that a bird out there?
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Uh, outside, before, in the... the engine?
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Just... Just now, like...
Um, did we hit a bird?
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Um...
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- I wouldn't know.
- Okay.
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Do you think there's a way
we could maybe ask the pilot?
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Um...
I'd hate to trouble him right now.
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Here's the thing, is that...
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We're still flying and at an altitude
where there are no more birds.
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No more birds? Okay.
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- How do you know there's no birds?
- Sir?
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- Sir?
- I mean...
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- What? What?
- Sir, I need you to lower your tone.
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- I'm not...
- We'll be starting in-flight service
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in a minute, so if you'd
like anything further,
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please let me know.
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Okay, I'll just... I'll, um...
I'll shut up. I'm sorry.
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[LAUGHS] I'm sorry. Thank you.
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JOE: It was.
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A bird.
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Real headache coming out of Dulles.
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I used to pilot for Northern Gold Star.
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They let us catch rides
on flights if there's room.
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Yeah, this is a good flight crew.
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Donner, the pilot. Nick and Tammy.
I worked with them a lot.
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But the thing is, they don't know.
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They'll never tell you
what's really going on.
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I don't fly anymore. One too
many mistakes I can't take back.
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Yeah, that was a birdie.
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Yeah.
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[THUNDER RUMBLES]
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RODMAN: So what do we really
know about Flight 1015?
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We know that the last words
spoken by the pilot
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to air traffic control were,
"Good night, New York."
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We also know that it disappeared
at 11:15 p.m.
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I'm running out of time.
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What could have happened to cause
the flight to vanish without a trace?
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MAN: [OVER SPEAKER]
Folks, this is the flight deck again
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just to let everyone know
the storm system up ahead's
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developing a little bit faster
than we anticipated.
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We'll be maneuvering around it
as best we can,
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but we do expect to hit
some rough patches.
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Shouldn't be anything to worry about,
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but we ask you to all remain
in your seats if you can.
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Thank you.
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RODMAN:
Chapter Three: "Every Detail Counts."
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With a tragedy as enormous
as Flight 1015,
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it's devastating to think of the cost.
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117 lives lost when the pilot signed off
from air traffic control
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and the flight disappeared from
radar over the North Atlantic.
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Without any forensic evidence,
we have to start looking for patterns,
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looking for clues,
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small signs that could tell us
the bigger problem.
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Most famous aviation mysteries
come from small beginnings:
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a mechanical failure,
or fire in one of the cabins,
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leading the crew to panic
and to bring the plane down.
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The passengers would've looked
to the flight attendants
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and known immediately
that something was wrong.
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We know that the cockpit
of this particular aircraft
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was equipped with cameras
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that allowed the passengers
to watch the flight crew
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through multiple monitors.
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If the pilot were doing
something unusual,
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it's likely that the whole cabin
would have noticed and reacted.
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00:14:34,916 --> 00:14:37,909
What seems more likely is
the idea that it was something
250
00:14:38,086 --> 00:14:40,328
truly unexpected and unique.
251
00:14:40,463 --> 00:14:43,501
As the plane flew close
to a thunderstorm,
252
00:14:43,633 --> 00:14:45,545
the pilot would need
to calmly communicate
253
00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:49,758
with his fellow crew and keep
the flight under control.
254
00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:51,471
Was there something on board
255
00:14:51,599 --> 00:14:54,342
that could've disrupted
the plane's communications?
256
00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:56,886
- [SPORTSCAST PLAYING]
- [QUIET CHATTER]
257
00:15:01,692 --> 00:15:03,274
JUSTIN: Hi.
258
00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:05,986
Hello. Uh, I'm Justin.
259
00:15:06,114 --> 00:15:08,902
I'm sorry, I... I know
this isn't really my business,
260
00:15:09,033 --> 00:15:11,525
but I just think
you may need to turn that off.
261
00:15:13,121 --> 00:15:14,612
Thank you for your input.
262
00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:17,239
But, uh, you know we are Sikh, right?
263
00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:19,207
Yeah. Absolutely.
264
00:15:19,335 --> 00:15:21,998
Yeah, and equal to us all. So...
265
00:15:23,131 --> 00:15:25,248
Okay, Justin.
266
00:15:27,009 --> 00:15:28,341
Then leave us all alone.
267
00:15:28,469 --> 00:15:31,177
Okay, I just... I feel like you do
need to turn that off, though.
268
00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:34,844
- It's on airplane mode. It's on Wi-Fi.
- Are you gonna turn it off or, like...?
269
00:15:34,976 --> 00:15:35,976
- Mr. Sanderson?
- Yes?
270
00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:37,371
I'm gonna need you to go
back to your seat, please.
271
00:15:37,395 --> 00:15:39,995
But these guys, they're not
turning it off, so I kind of figure...
272
00:15:40,064 --> 00:15:42,864
I understand that you're concerned.
I need you to go back to your seat.
273
00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:46,278
Now.
274
00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:47,315
Okay.
275
00:15:48,406 --> 00:15:49,817
What is he, the cricket police?
276
00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:51,815
- Crazy.
- What's his problem?
277
00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:53,567
WOMAN: Guy needs to sit down.
278
00:15:56,706 --> 00:15:58,868
[FASTENS SEAT BELT]
279
00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:05,336
RODMAN: Without any forensic
evidence to analyze,
280
00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:09,960
we have to consider other records
left behind by Flight 1015.
281
00:16:10,094 --> 00:16:12,711
This includes
the passenger manifest.
282
00:16:12,847 --> 00:16:14,713
And one infamous individual
283
00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:18,308
at the front of the plane
immediately stands out:
284
00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:21,346
Russian citizen Igor Orlov.
285
00:16:22,482 --> 00:16:24,724
Igor was in witness protection
286
00:16:24,859 --> 00:16:27,772
and was taking Flight 1015 to Tel Aviv
287
00:16:27,904 --> 00:16:31,068
in order to testify
against the Russian mafia.
288
00:16:31,741 --> 00:16:34,609
We know the Russian mob would do
anything in their power
289
00:16:34,744 --> 00:16:37,327
to prevent Orlov from testifying.
290
00:16:37,455 --> 00:16:40,573
Is it possible that
they targeted Flight 1015
291
00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:42,574
in order to kill him?
292
00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:47,705
Another detail might fill in the picture.
293
00:16:47,882 --> 00:16:52,126
Also listed on the passenger
manifest is a US air marshal.
294
00:16:52,553 --> 00:16:56,297
Was he on board the flight
in order to protect Igor Orlov?
295
00:16:56,474 --> 00:17:00,639
Would he be able to tell us
of any threats to the aircraft?
296
00:17:04,398 --> 00:17:05,809
Excuse me.
297
00:17:05,942 --> 00:17:07,604
- Hi.
- I am very sorry
298
00:17:07,735 --> 00:17:10,102
about everything from before, but, um...
299
00:17:12,406 --> 00:17:14,944
...I really need to talk
to the air marshal.
300
00:17:15,451 --> 00:17:17,408
I don't know that there's one
aboard this flight.
301
00:17:17,578 --> 00:17:18,819
Uh, there is.
302
00:17:18,955 --> 00:17:20,867
- Okay?
- You know that?
303
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,282
- Yeah. I do.
- Okay.
304
00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:25,249
Mr. Sanderson, I don't know
305
00:17:25,419 --> 00:17:27,285
that there's an air marshal
aboard this flight.
306
00:17:27,421 --> 00:17:29,733
They don't notify the captain of
the presence of an air marshal.
307
00:17:29,757 --> 00:17:32,124
They definitely don't tell
the flight attendants.
308
00:17:32,927 --> 00:17:35,465
Okay, yeah.
No, I get it. I get it.
309
00:17:35,596 --> 00:17:36,632
You get it?
310
00:17:36,764 --> 00:17:38,756
I get it. Thank you.
311
00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:40,851
Could you do me a huge favor
and just... just sit?
312
00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:43,852
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you.
313
00:17:44,021 --> 00:17:45,432
Okay.
314
00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:53,399
Hi.
315
00:17:54,824 --> 00:17:56,781
[LAUGHING] Mr. Popular.
316
00:17:57,785 --> 00:18:00,823
- Look, I know you said you're a pilot.
- Mm-hmm.
317
00:18:00,955 --> 00:18:04,699
- But you're an air marshal, aren't you?
- Told you, I'm a pilot.
318
00:18:04,834 --> 00:18:06,826
[THUNDER RUMBLES]
319
00:18:08,629 --> 00:18:11,337
Listen, I'm an investigative
reporter, okay?
320
00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:14,003
And I can be pretty sure
that an air marshal
321
00:18:14,135 --> 00:18:17,344
is gonna look a lot like
a marshal in the air.
322
00:18:18,055 --> 00:18:21,548
No. I'm not an air marshal.
What do you want me to tell you?
323
00:18:21,684 --> 00:18:23,095
- I don't know.
- Uh, I'm...
324
00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:25,807
sorry to disappoint you, brother.
I'm just a pilot.
325
00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:29,807
But I know air marshals,
and I know their job, Justin,
326
00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:32,184
is to think like a terrorist.
327
00:18:32,486 --> 00:18:35,604
Now, the best way
to spot deceptive behavior...
328
00:18:37,575 --> 00:18:39,612
Act like a deceptive person.
329
00:19:38,344 --> 00:19:40,552
MAN: What's he doing?
330
00:19:48,062 --> 00:19:50,395
- [SPEAKS RUSSIAN]
- I apologize, Mr. Orlov.
331
00:19:50,564 --> 00:19:53,147
- My name is not Orlov.
- Okay, of course not, of course not.
332
00:19:53,693 --> 00:19:55,434
Get the fuck out of here!
333
00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:57,686
Okay, okay.
Listen, I know you have many enemies
334
00:19:57,905 --> 00:19:59,646
who will go to great lengths
to destroy you.
335
00:19:59,782 --> 00:20:01,523
You with Spartak Moscow?
336
00:20:01,659 --> 00:20:04,072
Spartak. That is
a Saint Petersburg crime family?
337
00:20:04,245 --> 00:20:06,828
Russian Premier League.
We play for Grozny.
338
00:20:06,956 --> 00:20:09,414
We're playing a friendly game
against Spartak in Tel Aviv.
339
00:20:09,583 --> 00:20:11,791
- Yeah, fuck Moscow.
- Fuck Moscow, that's right. Yeah.
340
00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:13,730
Sir, I'm gonna need you
to sit down and back away, please.
341
00:20:13,754 --> 00:20:15,211
Mr. Sanderson, are you kidding me?
342
00:20:15,339 --> 00:20:17,234
This Russian soccer league thing
is total bullshit.
343
00:20:17,258 --> 00:20:18,610
What are you talking about?
Mr. Sanderson...
344
00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:20,737
- One of them is Igor Orlov, all right?
- Listen. Listen to me.
345
00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:22,114
I've alerted the
captain to your behavior.
346
00:20:22,138 --> 00:20:24,471
- You need to check their IDs.
- Don't worry about it.
347
00:20:24,598 --> 00:20:26,590
The Russian mafia
wants to kill Igor Orlov.
348
00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:28,429
Okay? They want...
349
00:20:28,561 --> 00:20:30,974
[SHOUTS IN RUSSIAN]
350
00:20:31,105 --> 00:20:32,767
[CLAMORING]
351
00:20:32,940 --> 00:20:35,398
- MAN: Calm down.
- Jesus Christ.
352
00:20:35,526 --> 00:20:38,234
Sit down, Mr. Orlov.
Sit down! Everybody.
353
00:20:38,362 --> 00:20:39,898
Calm down.
354
00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:42,522
Sit down, please.
Sit down.
355
00:20:43,576 --> 00:20:45,989
- Thank you.
- Yes, sir. Excuse me.
356
00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:47,281
Right here.
357
00:20:49,123 --> 00:20:51,206
You are threatening the safety
of these passengers.
358
00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:55,077
- I'm threatening the safety?
- Now, listen. I'm warning you.
359
00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:57,041
Return to your seat.
360
00:20:57,173 --> 00:21:01,087
Okay. I... If I were you,
I would check those guys' IDs,
361
00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:04,378
I would check their bags, okay?
All right, I...
362
00:21:11,061 --> 00:21:12,723
Okay.
363
00:21:15,858 --> 00:21:18,601
Hi, folks. Sorry for the disturbance.
364
00:21:18,736 --> 00:21:21,069
Sit back and enjoy yourselves, okay?
365
00:21:21,822 --> 00:21:23,563
Thank you.
366
00:21:32,666 --> 00:21:36,000
RODMAN: The last person of interest
is an investigative reporter
367
00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:39,163
directly linked to the events
of the flight:
368
00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:41,290
Justin Sanderson.
369
00:21:46,889 --> 00:21:50,132
If you've only heard
one thing about Flight 1015,
370
00:21:50,267 --> 00:21:52,509
it's probably the passenger
Justin Sanderson.
371
00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:54,848
FLIGHT ASSISTANT: [OVER PA]
Sir, return to your seat.
372
00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:56,666
RODMAN:
Video of the investigative journalist
373
00:21:56,690 --> 00:21:59,182
causing a disturbance on that flight
374
00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:02,937
was uploaded online moments
before the plane disappeared.
375
00:22:03,072 --> 00:22:04,483
Here's a clip.
376
00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:06,193
JUSTIN: Check their IDs right now.
377
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:08,442
The Russian mafia wants
to kill Igor Orlov.
378
00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:10,489
- WOMAN: Pardon me?
- Okay? They want to...
379
00:22:10,621 --> 00:22:13,705
- [ORLOV SPEAKS RUSSIAN]
- WOMAN: Sir, sit down. Sir...
380
00:22:13,874 --> 00:22:16,036
Sir, I'm gonna need you
to take your seat, please.
381
00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:18,160
We can't say for certain if this relates
382
00:22:18,295 --> 00:22:21,709
to the pilot's ominous send-off,
"Good night, New York."
383
00:22:21,882 --> 00:22:23,735
- I'm gonna need you to sit down.
- Can't do that.
384
00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:26,718
- Now. Let's go. Back.
- Okay. All right.
385
00:22:26,887 --> 00:22:30,005
Mr. Sanderson,
I think you're having a psychotic break.
386
00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:31,347
Just wait a second.
387
00:22:31,517 --> 00:22:35,477
Correct me if I'm wrong,
but in about 14 minutes,
388
00:22:35,604 --> 00:22:38,813
you will say the words,
"Good night, New York."
389
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,268
Don't do it. Do not say it.
390
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,776
Why?
391
00:22:47,908 --> 00:22:51,527
Because those are the last words
anyone will ever hear from this plane.
392
00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:54,367
- If you threaten my plane one more time...
- Listen to me.
393
00:22:54,498 --> 00:22:56,205
...I swear to God...
394
00:22:58,961 --> 00:23:01,169
Mr. Sanderson,
I'm placing you under arrest.
395
00:23:01,297 --> 00:23:02,788
You're the air marshal?
396
00:23:02,923 --> 00:23:05,684
You're being restrained because of
your threats against this aircraft.
397
00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:36,613
MARSHAL: I heard it.
I don't know what you're up to,
398
00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:38,782
but podcasts don't predict the future.
399
00:23:40,044 --> 00:23:41,751
Sorry, Justin.
400
00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:44,455
We're not gonna disappear.
401
00:23:47,343 --> 00:23:51,257
But we'll have people waiting for you
when we land that can help you.
402
00:23:52,306 --> 00:23:53,672
Look...
403
00:23:57,311 --> 00:23:59,769
I've had a mental breakdown before.
Okay?
404
00:23:59,897 --> 00:24:03,766
I know what it feels like,
I know what it is, and this isn't it.
405
00:24:03,901 --> 00:24:05,984
This feels different, okay?
406
00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:08,728
I am not caught up in the past here.
407
00:24:08,864 --> 00:24:13,154
This is now, this is real,
and I have evidence to prove
408
00:24:13,327 --> 00:24:15,740
that I know what's going on here.
409
00:24:17,331 --> 00:24:20,870
Justin, being wrong is an easier scenario
410
00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:24,210
for you to wrap your head around
because it's reality,
411
00:24:25,005 --> 00:24:27,418
and it's one you can recover from.
412
00:24:30,511 --> 00:24:33,254
- I'm sorry, we have a situation.
- Okay.
413
00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:42,015
Captain, what's the situation?
414
00:24:47,861 --> 00:24:50,274
[INDISTINCT]
415
00:24:56,954 --> 00:25:01,039
RODMAN: The mystery of Flight 1015
endures in our imagination
416
00:25:01,208 --> 00:25:04,372
because we have so many pieces
of the puzzle,
417
00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:07,041
yet are left with no definite answer.
418
00:25:07,631 --> 00:25:12,217
With minutes left until it would
vanish from radar at 11:15 p.m.,
419
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,631
it seems the passengers and crew
420
00:25:14,763 --> 00:25:18,006
were completely unaware
of what would happen next.
421
00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:22,928
The plane was threading a needle,
perilously close to a thunderstorm,
422
00:25:23,063 --> 00:25:27,979
carrying a unique set of passengers
for an unknown destination.
423
00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:31,353
There's really only one question left.
424
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:34,944
Could anything have been done
to prevent the tragedy?
425
00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:38,402
Hey, buddy.
426
00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:40,445
Hey.
427
00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:42,447
I believe you.
428
00:25:45,044 --> 00:25:46,125
[INDISTINCT]
429
00:25:47,838 --> 00:25:49,579
I believe the shit you're saying.
430
00:25:49,757 --> 00:25:52,465
You do? Why?
431
00:25:52,593 --> 00:25:55,552
Because I'm a pilot. I live in the sky.
432
00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:58,717
And right now we're up 30,000 feet
where no human was ever meant to be,
433
00:25:58,849 --> 00:26:01,387
but we don't think about that
anymore, do we?
434
00:26:01,518 --> 00:26:02,518
No.
435
00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:05,224
Just the fact that we're in this plane
means anything's possible.
436
00:26:05,355 --> 00:26:06,471
That's right.
437
00:26:07,483 --> 00:26:09,395
That's right. Thank you.
438
00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:12,060
Thanks, Joe. Thanks for...
Thanks for believing me.
439
00:26:12,196 --> 00:26:14,984
Look, Justin, magic exists where
we're not supposed to be.
440
00:26:15,115 --> 00:26:18,028
Yes.
I know I'm right. I can feel it.
441
00:26:18,202 --> 00:26:19,534
MARSHAL: Okay, thank you.
442
00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:21,618
[INDISTINCT]
443
00:26:21,789 --> 00:26:23,200
Wait a second.
444
00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:26,245
Joe?
445
00:26:26,919 --> 00:26:28,080
Yeah?
446
00:26:29,338 --> 00:26:31,000
You're a pilot.
447
00:26:31,131 --> 00:26:32,463
Yeah.
448
00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:34,716
I mean, you've flown
a plane like this before.
449
00:26:34,843 --> 00:26:36,709
Northern Gold Star 765.
450
00:26:36,887 --> 00:26:38,219
[THUNDER RUMBLES]
451
00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:41,882
You can land this plane safely.
452
00:26:42,017 --> 00:26:45,636
You can turn us around
and land us in Canada safely,
453
00:26:45,813 --> 00:26:48,396
- before we vanish.
- I... I can't get in there.
454
00:26:48,524 --> 00:26:51,484
Before takeoff, every flight crew is issued
an override code to that keypad
455
00:26:51,652 --> 00:26:53,814
to get in the flight deck.
I don't know that code.
456
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:03,573
JUSTIN: I know it.
457
00:27:04,832 --> 00:27:06,619
It's 1015.
458
00:27:06,792 --> 00:27:08,658
Did your podcast tell you that, too?
459
00:27:10,504 --> 00:27:13,747
Yes.
That's the answer.
460
00:27:15,092 --> 00:27:17,300
When I get in there, I'm gonna
drop the cabin pressure
461
00:27:17,427 --> 00:27:19,614
and raise the temperature.
I'm gonna put everyone to sleep.
462
00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:21,630
We don't want a panic situation
on our hands.
463
00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:23,506
Well, won't the oxygen masks drop down?
464
00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,679
Yeah, sure, but I can
handle that from in there.
465
00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:28,303
It's perfect. They'll be
putting their masks on,
466
00:27:28,438 --> 00:27:30,430
they won't realize
there's no oxygen flowing.
467
00:27:30,566 --> 00:27:32,228
They'll be fast asleep.
468
00:27:43,704 --> 00:27:46,162
You're gonna need this. Hide it.
469
00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:50,204
When the coast is clear, I'll give you
a signal. You'll come and join me.
470
00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:52,494
Listen to me. You're doing a good thing.
471
00:27:52,629 --> 00:27:55,417
You are saving these souls.
472
00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:57,916
[THUNDER CRASHES]
473
00:28:25,495 --> 00:28:27,487
[PASSENGERS MURMURING]
474
00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:30,786
[PANICKED CHATTER, GASPING]
475
00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:39,249
- WOMAN: Anybody know?
- MAN: Who is this guy?
476
00:28:41,178 --> 00:28:42,885
JOE: [OVER PA]
Greetings, passengers.
477
00:28:43,013 --> 00:28:44,299
Oh, my God!
478
00:28:44,473 --> 00:28:46,715
A little welcome from the flight deck.
479
00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:49,467
This is your new pilot,
Captain Beaumont.
480
00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,308
The, uh, former flight crew...
481
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,477
What the fuck?
482
00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:57,817
Well, they've been incapacitated.
483
00:28:58,612 --> 00:29:00,353
So allow me...
484
00:29:00,489 --> 00:29:03,232
Allow me to wish you all
the very best for the remainder
485
00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:05,248
- of Northern Gold Star Flight 1015.
- Now, go.
486
00:29:05,327 --> 00:29:08,286
Everybody, I need you to sit down.
Sit down and stay calm.
487
00:29:08,455 --> 00:29:09,866
All right? Please, stay calm.
488
00:29:09,998 --> 00:29:11,768
Coming through, coming through,
coming through!
489
00:29:11,792 --> 00:29:13,784
[CLAMORING]
490
00:29:21,969 --> 00:29:24,256
Time for everyone...
491
00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:28,757
...to relax.
492
00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:59,121
[ALARM BEEPS]
493
00:30:02,509 --> 00:30:06,719
JOE: [OVER PA] I want to thank you,
Justin. You taught me something.
494
00:30:06,847 --> 00:30:11,012
The past is the past.
And I can't get that back.
495
00:30:11,184 --> 00:30:13,050
I'll never be the man I once was,
496
00:30:13,186 --> 00:30:16,020
but you've given me
the clarity of awareness
497
00:30:16,189 --> 00:30:18,727
and the opportunity to find peace
498
00:30:18,859 --> 00:30:22,068
and escape the past
the only way possible.
499
00:30:24,406 --> 00:30:26,068
And you will, too.
500
00:30:26,199 --> 00:30:27,781
WOMAN: [OVER SPEAKER]
NGS 1015,
501
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:31,528
this is Gander Oceanic Control.
You are clear for transfer.
502
00:30:31,705 --> 00:30:33,367
Copy that.
503
00:30:36,543 --> 00:30:38,079
Good night, New York.
504
00:30:38,211 --> 00:30:40,624
♪ Fly me to the moon
505
00:30:40,797 --> 00:30:43,084
♪ Let me play among the stars
506
00:30:43,216 --> 00:30:46,129
Oh, shit. He's the pilot.
507
00:30:46,261 --> 00:30:53,261
♪ Let me see what spring is like
on Jupiter and Mars
508
00:30:54,019 --> 00:30:56,011
♪ In other words
509
00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:00,599
♪ Hold my hand
510
00:31:02,235 --> 00:31:04,227
♪ In other words
511
00:31:05,238 --> 00:31:07,821
♪ Baby, kiss me
512
00:31:10,285 --> 00:31:12,902
♪ Fill my heart with song
513
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,495
♪ And let me sing forevermore
514
00:31:18,418 --> 00:31:21,752
♪ You are all I long for...
515
00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,741
[GRUNTING]
516
00:32:00,127 --> 00:32:02,710
[PANTING]
517
00:32:06,216 --> 00:32:08,128
I'm here.
518
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:15,924
I was right.
519
00:32:32,325 --> 00:32:34,362
RODMAN:
"The Mystery of Flight 1015,
520
00:32:34,494 --> 00:32:37,783
Part Two: The End of Civility."
521
00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:40,289
The first installment
in this bizarre story
522
00:32:40,417 --> 00:32:42,909
was our most popular podcast to date.
523
00:32:43,044 --> 00:32:44,831
And when we last left you,
524
00:32:45,005 --> 00:32:48,089
we thought we had told the tale
of an unexplained mystery
525
00:32:48,216 --> 00:32:51,459
so bizarre it would be left
to historians to unravel.
526
00:32:51,595 --> 00:32:55,179
Rescuers spent months
after the plane's disappearance
527
00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:59,934
looking for debris,
hoping to find signs of survivors.
528
00:33:00,061 --> 00:33:03,975
The search would go on for months,
but to no avail.
529
00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:09,269
Until a cargo ship happened
upon a near-barren atoll.
530
00:33:09,404 --> 00:33:11,145
And incredibly,
531
00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:15,033
every passenger
from Flight 1015 had survived,
532
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,446
except one.
533
00:33:16,578 --> 00:33:20,447
None of the survivors could explain it,
but Justin Sanderson was missing,
534
00:33:20,582 --> 00:33:24,292
his whereabouts,
still to this day, unknown.
535
00:33:32,385 --> 00:33:34,172
Hey, buddy.
536
00:33:34,346 --> 00:33:35,928
Hey.
537
00:33:36,056 --> 00:33:38,093
Hey, where you going?
538
00:33:41,895 --> 00:33:44,933
[ANGRY MURMURING]
539
00:33:47,984 --> 00:33:49,065
MAN: That's him.
540
00:33:49,194 --> 00:33:50,480
MAN 2: That's him? Is that him?
541
00:33:50,612 --> 00:33:52,353
Hey, I tried to save us.
542
00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:54,773
[ANGRY MURMURING]
543
00:33:58,620 --> 00:34:00,361
MARSHAL: Justin, you did this.
544
00:34:01,665 --> 00:34:03,281
MAN: How could you do this?
545
00:34:03,416 --> 00:34:05,908
What did you people do, huh?! Nothing!
546
00:34:07,921 --> 00:34:10,288
What did you do?! Get away from me!
547
00:34:10,882 --> 00:34:11,882
Get away!
548
00:34:11,925 --> 00:34:14,087
- How could you do this, asshole?!
- No! No!
549
00:34:14,261 --> 00:34:16,878
[SHOUTING]
550
00:34:21,142 --> 00:34:23,976
In his final moments,
Justin Sanderson made the case
551
00:34:24,104 --> 00:34:26,847
that he did everything he could
to avert disaster.
552
00:34:26,982 --> 00:34:29,599
But in the end,
he was an investigative reporter
553
00:34:29,776 --> 00:34:32,018
unwilling to investigate himself,
554
00:34:32,153 --> 00:34:34,065
until it was too late.
555
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,276
Justin discovered
that the flight path to hell
556
00:34:36,408 --> 00:34:38,491
is paved with good intentions,
557
00:34:38,618 --> 00:34:40,735
and it passes directly...
558
00:34:42,038 --> 00:34:44,121
...through The Twilight Zone.
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