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Body can learn how to use

a computer and the how to make

sounds and.

Anybody can learn how to orchestrate you can go to music

school you can run our to play these are all things.

That are being taught constantly

but

i think one of the great things that the missing as.

How do you have to conversation

you know

how not to be afraid you're

at it actually take ks.

Takes a bit of getting used to

like you and me right now having the simple conversation

while there's a huge crew floating around be

behind us

and.

We're pretending they're not here

but

that's not what we're doing but we're actually doing the opposite were doing

everybody's here to support us making doing something great

and thus the same

with the was

composing so when you stand in front of the orchestra.

Know that they're are there

to support you and make make it the best

you know as opposed to.

Being worried about

all that but

it takes up at a time

you know and and and

you have to sort of earn their respect to smell.

So i mean i i remember the first few times.

Having the orchestra and then it was literally like lion taming you know you'd like

you walk off when you walk out there

and

and they're just looking at you're going

so what do you know you know and

and and the only way you can prove it is this by

writing a decent tune are having a decent idea.

You know and go.

That these to percussionist and love.

Frank rijkaard three.

And Gary could tell

their played pretty much on every movie that ever existed i think from you know

before star was on

i played on everything

and

secretly my ambition every time i recall the score there

as to just

find one thing.

That they haven't done but fall

and usually it's like you know

if you were to hit the temps with brushes

and at first you get.

Doesn't never work

and then if you're lucky they go out there and they took Nick oh wow

that sounds really good we've never done this before

so

you know

you.

Every time just push it forward a bit and if you put shit forward a bit.

They love you thought

you know that because the the

the musicians are your.

Are your biggest allies i mean they're the ones ultimately.

You know

this is just me

playing around on a computer.

Ultimately you know

the real musicians

give it

something ing

that no machine can do.

When you get to the orchestra

sessional.

And this is partly why why do these stamos by to the sweets why we mock the whole

movie up why we have showed it to an audience

so but by the time we go to the August session

we are very very solid ground

because but

when i first got to Hollywood people but just writing on paper

and

and.

The first time the director really would hear the thing but the either

somebody have played it to him on piano

and then

which is not quite the same as when you have one hundred and twenty piece orchestra

blasting away at you

some people can do some people can do it brilliantly

obviously John Williams control brilliantly because he is

an amazing pianist

and

the relationship yes with

Steven Spielberg.

Allows that you know what John can

play and gas and this is where the French homes come in etc and

Stephen has it because he's incredibly musical.

But

was most direct us this

rock special but by.

They hear.

At least the weights and the density of the school you know

all this is where the strengths i have platoon

and this is what goes to the French horns

and.

So then when you get to the orcas

session at

this is this is the most things

become.

Super expensive

you know it's i i can remember i i want to watch it out how much a sec and costs so.

What's important that a couple of things which are very important.

That you can make a decision.

All

and every

of

let me think about this

not only costs a fortune but it stops the momentum

and i think the aka secession that's about one thing and one thing only

and as to get a performance out of the guys because.

I can make all those notes sounds pretty

convincing and pretty

spiffy in the computer

but but what

the computer lacks as.

The the the soft cohesive musicality

the.

Feel

you know and

energy and the danger

that

realm efficient spring tour it you know

virtuoso playing

and.

The you know the the the end

the interpretation of each note.

So

once i get to the orchestra actually worked very efficiently because.

We aren't going to do any changes.

We've all signed off on these notes it's just

so

it's not like in the old days where

you know after the director hard it for the first time was the big orchestra

what go

you know something

i don't really like it all i don't like the spit can we change the spit

and.

Something i took maybe weeks to go and aka you're right and orchestrate and

be very refined Boston now going to be changed

and ten minutes

life understand that had to become a compromise

and i'm just not willing to make that compromise.

The thing that i found out as.

If you make them into your co-conspirators if you treat them as colleagues if you

treat them as brothers and sisters in arms.

They're going to give you the best do.

If you.

Don't do that

they'll eat you alive.

And if you're not clear about the emotional intention of the music.

Do.

It'll sound like shit

and.

For instance i mean on pirates it was

very important face that the orchestra what sounded a certain way

and about

they

they've

i dunno what they came from but let's say they just came from playing a John Williams

session or or something like this

so they must still in the mode off.

Whatever the movie was saving private Ryan i dunno

know

but.

That's not the sound i want i want to.

Drunk and pirates so

your.

Since the musicians on my actors

they have to learn the attitude

and so

we just Mark an attitude for a little bit on prefer farmers attitude what is this you

know what is the sound we are looking for

you

do

because.

I mean.

A c is a c

a c

c right

but.

You know

what differentiates it you know

that there's there's a

the so many.

There's so many

as soon as i stopped playing i stopped talking

not because i can't do both at the same time

but just because i automatically feel.

Get up by.

By

playing i can be more articulate

and i just have to i have to give my players the chance

because i know

they can play anything and they can cite wheat

they could cite me the whole school we could do on mom take

but

to learn

what's behind the notes that's the important thing.

This is actually where it's.

Weirdly

helpful that i never went to music school.

Because

i'm a little vague with my Italian and since

August are usually get spoken to

with get of

can we do a Richard

do here and can we

be a bit more

al dente know that's cooking.

That the duty me as

i

i just

i i tried to speak to them

from a story point of view i tried to tell them about the seen us about.

Are

very often

get out

if if i can after that i you know

director go out and

just ok

guys let me tell you about the seen us all about.

You know

rather than say.

Play pianissimo

say play more internal i dunno find emotional words of suggest

but you're trying to

what you're asking them to convey

but if you can say to them

what you know

what this piece is about.

Not in technical terms.

Technical term stuff

that you know written down you know it's like

play a see

you know

fortissimo.

Do.

That just tells you that you're supposed to play that see loud but it doesn't tell

you why as a person pray that see loud

and you know.

This sounds

so daft but i'm just i'm just gonna give you all the

dumb things which helped me.

Sometimes when the orchestration is really dense

noble you know

because remember

the orchestra that like the violas have only their part in front of the violence only

have their part in front of them.

Etc etc etc.

They are they are all just.

You know

this is the armed as the leg you know

they don't know how the body fits together.

So sometimes it's really good to

literally

whoever has the tune

just right on top of their part

the tune

so they know okay

we got the tune

been a play out in little bit

everybody else just

just right.

Simple.

You know.

Stop being technical stop being scientific you know communicate to them

commitment

and in the simplest possible way.