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What i

do to this day

i mean

you know Charlotte is a really good example of this way i would get

i would cost my play they're.

Probably because I've heard them before partly because of

who i know they are you know i'm

a human being as an actor

and i would just get them in i would

yeah we would just sit and chat with the instrument

and go okay can tell me what you can do but you know no no no i want a bit more.

You know.

What what is it the instruments.

Like we did this a lot an interstellar.

What's the woodwinds growing.

Now

that i no each been a few has a sound.

That

every

that that your were never allowed to play

what is that sound

and you just enter into the conversation

i mean.

On this last.

Batman and Superman from i needed to find.

A sound for wonder woman.

Do

you know the at first i

when.

The obvious route which supposed to do like a female voice.

God I've done that a thousand times you know so so that's on it

and then

suddenly remember to.

Female Cialis friend of mine teenage

girl

who

plays electric shadow

and she is.

When she comes into the room she spun of the most polite and humble and.

Quiet

people you know.

Very well stuffed.

Very shy.

But when she grabs the cello

she has a certain way of

grabbing the cello and

moving the

in front of it.

It's like

some ninja warrior Princess

and all hell is unleashed

so so so i had the phrase written in the phrase was you know it was a.

Tiny little phrase

but

all i tried to do is get

Tina who's speaking to me

with best man us to become.

The banshee that i knew she could be been see

because the because people are different when

they have the instruments in front of them

you know the the.

They can express something that they keep hitting from you and.

The whole pint of the whole pint of this room the whole point of what i

what i try to do with them as i try to trick them

into the comfort of expressing

all that they can express

and was Tina i mean literally if we we spend a week on this place just holding the

holding the performance of this

and i i remember the first time.

Playing it to the

director and his produce a wife

know they were sitting on the couch and

without saying anything i

just had the picture running and the

than the phrase came in as.

At.

It was a physical shock to them

and in a good way to.

The

it made them nervous and made them anxious it made them

really

excited

because

you know i i transformed the character but it was it was.

Really.

Two things one knowing what the cello can do

are not knowing what the cello can do and really having a conversation about.

I know it can play pretty

but buyers can i do

and

stopping this idea that

you want to have a cello i don't want to have a teller i want Tina go out

that's who i want

and.

I do that

with

with all of my class i need to know you know i

it's not the string section if if you think of it as the string section

you

know

you might as well go

into the fields and.

Hire a bunch of sheep

that's not the point the point is

that.

You want to handpick every individual player for their strength

a.

A.

You're talking into a guy doing blockbuster movies here

and.

Everybody's forever you know

i keep everybody thinks money is no object and

maybe that is about is keeping people from.

Wanting to become film composers because they don't know how they're going to hire

the huge big orchestra etc they think that's all

necessary

and it's not

you know it's like

find a great player have a great friend you

have somebody.

Somebody can make a

fantastic noise on one instrument i mean this is alexey guzman who's

one of my

oldest friends and.

An extraordinarily

great.

Actor

as much as a violinist.

Sometimes it feels

important to me to to go and

make scores

which sound.

Huge to the emotional intention as opposed to.

You know having

hundred and two people playing and differently.

Do

whatever people talk to me about why they can't do

something oh no i don't have the money or i don't have the

opportunity or whatever

you have the opportunity

to.

Get a cardboard box with a rubber band and

market with your cell phone and you might come up with something really interesting

and

that's the job

be creative

invent

at the end of the day

the

biggest effect i can get

the the thing which makes it real the thing that

that legitimize us

at as an emotional experience

as to get one player

who's just going to play his

ass off

and

and so i cast very carefully i mean.

You know i picked the scores of on purpose because it's.

Curiously underwhelming and it's forces you know it's just a few people in the room.

As opposed to

the huge symphony orchestra

which is what everybody assumes a film score should be

but i think

if you listen.

If you listen to a great string quartet

you're not pay play a Beethoven string quartet with.

No full commitment to the notes

it'll sound better than any.

Edits are bigger than the than the biggest orchestra you can possibly have

cause i think what really truly resonates as as

the intent of the commitment of a performance.

Cars i think at the end of the day that that it's

it's about the score supposed to do the scars supposed to

forever

get you back to the specifics you know maintain specificity

with the character and with the start.

There's nothing

that.

The the then instrumentalists enjoy some more

than showing off what their instrument can do

so look i'm a sense geek so

when

when

i

i meet another synth geek

we're going to be talking until all hours about

oscillators and filters and all sorts of stuff.

So if you if you.

Time this conversation over to cello all violin or

you to

hey i didn't know how the timber long worked it looks impossible to me

you know

and

you sit down with the guy and you say what can you do and and

one this and what can you not do

you want to right something which is.

Spotty and challenging you know

which gives them a bit of some you know

you know

they do you don't want him to sleep through the session

but at the same time you don't want to ever do something which is

not all

but just

awkward under the fingers the i mean that's always a different way of solving if.

You always wanted to write up to the strength of the answer

you want to write up to the strength of the player

so for instance what works

well with certain place might not work well with other players as well.

I mean

i can i can be as specific as this

that a French horn isn't a French

isn't a French home from country to country.

Here in los Angeles they use much bigger mouthpieces so that it's around a

warmer sound

while what

i use on Batman

Batman is the London guys

will have the small mouthpieces so

you get that

bright

brash

opinionated

tone

and then in Vienna it's the whole other thing

you know

so.

Yeah you're going to get caught out at the beginning

you're going to find out that the tuning on.

On the

in continental Europe as three huts

shop that it is

anywhere else in the world and

and your

tracks a sudden eight sounding a bit

different.

This information and then after a while if you'd be hang with players and you've been

you've been doing things it becomes to knowledge

he you know how to grow and.

Use it to your

advantage.

I mean.

Avaya and is a piece of what

were some.

That bits of cat on top

you know that's

it's

it's a piece of technology

that all pieces of technology

and it's just.

Over the years people have

learned how to

make that technology express emotion.

I suppose when i started out.

Playing around with computers i mean that one

that was the whole idea you know it's like

ooh correct can i go and cajole this piece of technology into.

Expressing

some form of emotional.

So that's

the succeed from like one

we need to challenge ourselves a bit and.

Figure out a new way of telling it and.

You know when i

when i said that in the first one i was thinking about this whole idea that.

So luck.

Might be looking a little

beyond the classical violinist.

That he was really interested

in the gypsy by

as.

I phoned up guy and i said you know for this one.

Think we gotta go up it on a road trip and so

cutting a story short we managed to figure out a way

off.

Going to Slovakia and.

Every morning.

Getting up at five o'clock in the morning and going from one roma

camp to the next and just listening to all these amazing musicians

and.

Add sort of

king an

amazing violinist amazing

clarinets just amazing timberland

amazing at cardenas

and.

And we just you know the all the all the best ones

you know

all the once we we true

her not

thorough many i mean

this this supposed to

you know this supposed to great discovery you

know that in the middle of Europe that as a world

that nobody knows about because they're completely

live in complete isolation because that basic be

hated by everybody and

so

you know the the the the sort of the.

Racism as just.

Out of control about how much the

of the the the gypsy so lowest etc

and how they can't get jobs so the only thing they can really do as

become

extraordinary musicians is proud of the culture

and so

i think it was

so happiest time of my life just being

there.

I don't speak roma we you know one pint it was like.

Half of my crew spoke English

some spoke job and

some how to speak slovak

Russian

but

nobody spoke roll miso at first it was all

still to stuff off trying to recruit translators and then.

Finding i just had enough and i just started playing and we just started playing and

you know

four hours go by

nobody has actually after the watch but.

At at first there were a little

hesitant you know and

you know after about an hour and stuff getting the

you know the raised eyebrow and i play a wrong notes

i know where we're not heading the right way that

becoming.

Some sort of a band

so.

Once i found my musicians you know.

We've taught them all into a bus took them to be Vienna and just

got into the studio and started.

Yeah

i i just when

he'll he'll the themes guys

you know

now go and interpret them you know i just gave them

complete freedom to do whatever they wanted to do with them.

I mean and this is

this

is this is one of those things

because i just thought that was there was something to be had you know.

What

telling this crazy fantasy movie but there

but there is

there's a part of this about that still exists you know where people.

Cause i mean it was

very interesting having

alexey

a good

and again with me who's

and such an extraordinary violinist

and how such an extraordinary instrument.

Him in the room

with the gypsy violinists

and he would play by note quietly and it would be.

So loud because it's instrument or so good and disguise having to

and you suddenly realize that part of their style comes from.

You know

those are

cheap instruments is the best they can afford and

and

the only way they can go and make them sound good as

by playing

they have to compensate for the lack of

great instruments by the amount of passion they put interact

so

and you know and and thus of the thing you are trying to hunt down all the time you

you eat you want authentic passion

and.

So

you're and once he feels solid enough about your tune.

You know

i just like this of to sort of thrown in the middle of the woman go okay guys

whenever you want to do with it set fire to have you know

why whatever text you know

let's just see where you can take it

because i know.

The notes a strong enough to take.

All sorts of abuse and by abusing them a bit they'll probably become oh interesting.