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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,370 --> 00:00:03,930 A revolution in Nicaragua 2 00:00:04,060 --> 00:00:06,500 brings a new government into power, 3 00:00:06,630 --> 00:00:08,330 and President Reagan believes the Cold War 4 00:00:08,460 --> 00:00:10,290 now has a new front. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,160 When the White House launches a secret campaign 6 00:00:15,290 --> 00:00:19,170 to support an opposition movement known as the Contras, 7 00:00:19,300 --> 00:00:21,910 Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North is tapped to lead the effort. 8 00:00:31,270 --> 00:00:32,920 The Masters golf tourney 9 00:00:33,050 --> 00:00:34,530 in Augusta, Georgia each year 10 00:00:34,660 --> 00:00:36,970 beckons to the greats of the golf world. 11 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:40,140 The royalty of golf holds sway over the crowded galleries 12 00:00:40,270 --> 00:00:42,710 on their tours around the difficult course. 13 00:00:47,630 --> 00:00:49,940 One of the perks of being president 14 00:00:50,070 --> 00:00:52,420 is that if you feel like playing a few rounds of golf 15 00:00:52,550 --> 00:00:56,160 at one of the most prestigious clubs in the world, 16 00:00:56,290 --> 00:00:58,250 you can just make that happen. 17 00:00:58,380 --> 00:01:01,770 In October of 1983, it was a golfing weekend 18 00:01:01,910 --> 00:01:06,430 for President and Mrs. Reagan. 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,090 They were going to the Augusta National Golf Club. 20 00:01:12,220 --> 00:01:15,010 The club was actually closed, 21 00:01:15,140 --> 00:01:19,400 so it was a perfect time for the Reagans to go. 22 00:01:19,530 --> 00:01:21,930 It was good weather, 23 00:01:22,060 --> 00:01:26,410 and...it was supposed to be a very quiet weekend. 24 00:01:30,190 --> 00:01:32,240 Reagan was playing golf on the 16th hole... 25 00:01:34,420 --> 00:01:37,240 And someone drove their pickup truck through the gate. 26 00:01:37,380 --> 00:01:40,510 They actually rammed the chain-link fence. 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,510 He took two White House staff as hostages at gunpoint, 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,950 held them, and said he wanted to meet with President Reagan. 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,260 The hostage taker was named Charles R. Harris, 30 00:01:53,390 --> 00:01:56,090 and it was remarkable that he made it as far as he did. 31 00:01:56,220 --> 00:01:58,000 Remember, there had been an assassination attempt 32 00:01:58,140 --> 00:02:01,920 made on Reagan in 1981. 33 00:02:02,050 --> 00:02:05,140 Heightened security had become the norm. 34 00:02:05,270 --> 00:02:08,490 The Augusta National Golf Club was totally fenced in, 35 00:02:08,620 --> 00:02:12,450 and it was pointed out that security is quite good, 36 00:02:12,580 --> 00:02:15,330 in addition to our Secret Service and everything. 37 00:02:15,460 --> 00:02:17,980 They knocked the gate down. Initially, the truck backed up, 38 00:02:18,110 --> 00:02:19,850 rammed the gate again, 39 00:02:19,980 --> 00:02:22,330 knocked it completely down, and rode over it. 40 00:02:22,460 --> 00:02:25,340 It was suggested by Chief of Staff Don Regan 41 00:02:25,470 --> 00:02:28,250 to just communicate with him, 42 00:02:28,380 --> 00:02:30,210 try to do it by phone and go from there. 43 00:02:30,340 --> 00:02:32,870 But we've got to get our two hostages, 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,170 our two staff, freed. 45 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:37,700 The president called the phone in the pro shop 46 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:40,220 to see if he could talk to Harris and broker a deal. 47 00:02:51,580 --> 00:02:53,320 Harris didn't believe 48 00:02:53,450 --> 00:02:55,370 that it was actually Reagan on the line. 49 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:58,590 So he hung up and pulled the phone out of the wall. 50 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,680 Augusta National was sealed off, 51 00:03:00,810 --> 00:03:03,940 and Air Force One prepared for evacuation. 52 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:06,460 And then, almost as quickly as it started, 53 00:03:06,590 --> 00:03:08,250 the crisis was over. 54 00:03:08,380 --> 00:03:11,120 About 2 1/2 hours later, 55 00:03:11,250 --> 00:03:13,430 after demands for whiskey and food, 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,480 the seventh hostage bolted from the room where he was held 57 00:03:17,610 --> 00:03:19,220 and escaped unharmed. 58 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:20,830 The subject was captured. 59 00:03:23,050 --> 00:03:24,350 Harris would later say 60 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,750 that a combination of his recent job loss, 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,100 Reagan's economic policies, and a bottle of tequila 62 00:03:30,230 --> 00:03:33,360 drove him to go to the Augusta National Club that day. 63 00:03:33,490 --> 00:03:35,450 As hostage incidents go, 64 00:03:35,580 --> 00:03:38,280 this one resolved itself pretty easily. 65 00:03:38,410 --> 00:03:41,190 But if it had happened on any other day, 66 00:03:41,330 --> 00:03:43,940 it would have been a much bigger story. 67 00:03:44,070 --> 00:03:45,680 Good afternoon. 68 00:03:45,810 --> 00:03:48,030 The count of American dead in today's terrorist attack 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,470 on the U.S. Marine compound in Beirut stands at 135. 70 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:57,300 In the middle of the night, in Beirut, at the airport, 71 00:03:57,430 --> 00:03:59,260 where we had marines stationed, 72 00:03:59,390 --> 00:04:01,560 a truck drove through a checkpoint 73 00:04:01,690 --> 00:04:04,440 loaded with dynamite, detonated... a suicide attack. 74 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:09,050 The explosion in Lebanon was the deadliest attack 75 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:10,880 against U.S. Marines since Iwo Jima. 76 00:04:13,230 --> 00:04:15,050 It was terrible, terrible time for President Reagan. 77 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:16,530 There are no words 78 00:04:16,660 --> 00:04:19,320 to properly express our outrage 79 00:04:19,450 --> 00:04:21,190 and I think the outrage of all Americans. 80 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,720 In many ways, the ongoing conflict in Lebanon 81 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:29,110 would define Reagan's second term. 82 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,510 The blood feud in the Mideast continues. 83 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,250 Lebanon is the arena for nearly everybody's battle. 84 00:04:34,380 --> 00:04:37,470 The country is bleeding for nine years. 85 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,080 We have not more... we want the world not to bleed anymore. 86 00:04:41,210 --> 00:04:43,390 It is the key to understanding how Reagan 87 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,390 would become a captive of his own hostage crisis, 88 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,790 just like Jimmy Carter had before him. 89 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,270 Four Lebanese employees of the Associated Press 90 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,440 in Beirut have disappeared. 91 00:04:53,570 --> 00:04:54,770 Once again, 92 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,850 Americans are held hostage in the Middle East. 93 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,270 They are beating the passengers. 94 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,270 They are threatening to kill them now. 95 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,450 The president had campaigned on the idea of American strength. 96 00:05:03,580 --> 00:05:05,580 I don't understand 97 00:05:05,710 --> 00:05:08,980 why 52 Americans have been held hostage 98 00:05:09,110 --> 00:05:11,590 for almost a year now. 99 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,370 What would he do now that tough talk 100 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:15,420 was suddenly not enough? 101 00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:17,460 To what lengths would he go 102 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,770 to bring his fellow Americans home? 103 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:22,170 We've never let up, and we never will 104 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:25,430 in trying to obtain the freedom of all the hostages. 105 00:05:28,650 --> 00:05:31,740 I'm Leon Neyfakh. 106 00:05:31,870 --> 00:05:37,140 the Story of Iran-Contra." 107 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:47,800 At Beirut, the jet-set arrive in the same way 108 00:05:47,930 --> 00:05:51,410 they do at all the airports in the world. 109 00:05:51,540 --> 00:05:53,330 Despite its small size, 110 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:55,200 Lebanon has always wielded great influence 111 00:05:55,330 --> 00:05:57,500 in the Arab world. 112 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,640 The capital city of Beirut was its pearl. 113 00:06:00,770 --> 00:06:03,210 I was born and raised in Beirut. 114 00:06:03,340 --> 00:06:04,860 It was a lovely childhood, 115 00:06:04,990 --> 00:06:10,300 growing up in a country that was, um, peaceful. 116 00:06:10,430 --> 00:06:12,690 Lebanon was a very cosmopolitan place. 117 00:06:12,820 --> 00:06:14,480 We spent a lot of time at the beach. 118 00:06:14,610 --> 00:06:17,180 We spent summers in the mountains. 119 00:06:17,310 --> 00:06:21,660 And family life was really what it should be. 120 00:06:21,790 --> 00:06:25,710 And I think, looking back, it's what sustained me 121 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:29,490 during the many hard years of the war in Lebanon. 122 00:06:29,620 --> 00:06:31,670 It was during the mid-1970s, 123 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,150 after nearly two decades of peace, 124 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:36,590 that Lebanon erupted in civil war. 125 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,850 Lebanon was struggling to maintain a political order 126 00:06:39,980 --> 00:06:42,160 that had been established in the '50s, 127 00:06:42,290 --> 00:06:44,290 something that was called the Compact, 128 00:06:44,420 --> 00:06:46,600 where ethnic groups, as groups, 129 00:06:46,730 --> 00:06:50,340 agree on a balance of power and assigned roles. 130 00:06:50,470 --> 00:06:52,080 One group is the prime minister. 131 00:06:52,210 --> 00:06:53,730 One group gets the presidency. 132 00:06:53,870 --> 00:06:56,130 One group gets the speaker of the parliament. 133 00:06:56,260 --> 00:06:59,740 And that was the structure that had endured. 134 00:06:59,870 --> 00:07:04,050 But it was under severe attack because of the civil war. 135 00:07:05,750 --> 00:07:08,450 Things had kind of started brewing 136 00:07:08,580 --> 00:07:11,800 in '75 and '74. 137 00:07:11,930 --> 00:07:14,320 And then I went for my master's, 138 00:07:14,450 --> 00:07:16,370 and the country blew up in flames. 139 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,160 It's now a year since Lebanon's social tensions 140 00:07:25,290 --> 00:07:29,470 finally and inevitably exploded into war. 141 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,470 There were days that were normal. 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,600 There were lulls in the fighting. 143 00:07:33,730 --> 00:07:36,910 And there were days when it was extremely dangerous. 144 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,520 We always had the radio up to our ear 145 00:07:39,650 --> 00:07:41,610 to listen to the news flashes 146 00:07:41,740 --> 00:07:44,180 on the various Lebanese radio stations, 147 00:07:44,310 --> 00:07:46,220 representing various factions. 148 00:07:50,050 --> 00:07:53,360 What was really changing was the most impoverished, 149 00:07:53,490 --> 00:07:56,750 the least powerful, the Shia, were now being emboldened 150 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,320 and strengthened by the resurgence of Iran 151 00:07:59,450 --> 00:08:00,760 under Khomeini. 152 00:08:00,890 --> 00:08:02,850 And so what we saw was 153 00:08:02,980 --> 00:08:06,240 a further splintering of Lebanese democracy, 154 00:08:06,370 --> 00:08:09,200 more violence, more terrorism, 155 00:08:09,330 --> 00:08:11,250 more intimidation. 156 00:08:11,380 --> 00:08:13,770 The Syrian military had intervened. 157 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:16,470 The Israelis had invaded. 158 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,170 Everyone who was anyone was involved in Lebanon. 159 00:08:24,260 --> 00:08:25,570 Back in Washington, 160 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:27,650 Reagan's National Security Council 161 00:08:27,790 --> 00:08:30,140 was keeping a close eye on events in the Middle East. 162 00:08:32,620 --> 00:08:35,450 They relied in part on the global alert system 163 00:08:35,580 --> 00:08:38,670 housed in Oliver North's office, room 392. 164 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:45,190 The flashboard was where we put up 165 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,500 the latest incidents... 166 00:08:47,630 --> 00:08:49,590 who was working on them and what was happening, 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,379 and, you know, what were all the steps 168 00:08:51,380 --> 00:08:52,390 that needed to be taken. 169 00:08:52,420 --> 00:08:54,510 And, you know, was sort of a real-time picture 170 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,550 of global terrorism. 171 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,210 Here, again, it's important to go back 172 00:09:01,340 --> 00:09:03,600 to the year 1979. 173 00:09:05,780 --> 00:09:08,960 The year when revolution took hold in Nicaragua, 174 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:11,660 Ayatollah Khomeini took power in Iran, 175 00:09:11,790 --> 00:09:15,140 52 American citizens were held hostage in Tehran 176 00:09:15,270 --> 00:09:18,400 for 444 days. 177 00:09:18,530 --> 00:09:19,920 The turbulence of that year 178 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:21,710 had a ripple effect even after it ended. 179 00:09:24,540 --> 00:09:26,580 This was especially the case in the Muslim world. 180 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:29,280 Khomeini and Iran saw Lebanon 181 00:09:29,410 --> 00:09:30,980 as a way to buffer itself 182 00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:35,550 against American retribution or punishment. 183 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:39,730 It was a very convenient and strategic alliance with Iran 184 00:09:39,860 --> 00:09:42,770 that continues to this day. 185 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:44,690 Before the civil war, 186 00:09:44,820 --> 00:09:47,520 Lebanon had been an ally to the United States. 187 00:09:47,650 --> 00:09:48,870 But the instability of the country 188 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,780 had put that in danger. 189 00:09:50,910 --> 00:09:52,870 Now the Khomeini regime in Iran 190 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,790 was trying to stake out a position in Lebanon. 191 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,570 If Iran succeeded in gaining influence in the region, 192 00:09:58,700 --> 00:10:00,920 it would be a disaster for the U.S., 193 00:10:01,050 --> 00:10:04,710 an upset in the global balance of power. 194 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,410 Sensing that things were spiraling out of control, 195 00:10:07,540 --> 00:10:09,450 President Reagan sent an emissary to Lebanon 196 00:10:09,580 --> 00:10:10,930 to negotiate a cease-fire. 197 00:10:12,850 --> 00:10:15,720 Ambassador Habib has informed me 198 00:10:15,850 --> 00:10:18,070 that a plan to resolve the West Beirut crisis 199 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,940 has been agreed upon by all the parties involved. 200 00:10:21,070 --> 00:10:22,730 As part of this plan, 201 00:10:22,860 --> 00:10:24,820 the government of Lebanon has requested, 202 00:10:24,950 --> 00:10:26,600 and I have approved, 203 00:10:26,730 --> 00:10:28,910 the deployment of United States forces to Beirut 204 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,600 as part of a multinational force. 205 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,090 Our purpose will be to assist the Lebanese armed forces 206 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:37,920 in carrying out their responsibility 207 00:10:38,050 --> 00:10:40,570 for enduring... ensuring the departure 208 00:10:40,700 --> 00:10:42,660 of PLO leaders, 209 00:10:42,790 --> 00:10:44,530 officers, and combatants in Beirut 210 00:10:44,660 --> 00:10:46,100 from Lebanese territory 211 00:10:46,230 --> 00:10:47,930 under safe and orderly conditions. 212 00:10:50,970 --> 00:10:52,890 But Reagan's attempt to contain the civil war 213 00:10:53,020 --> 00:10:54,320 didn't work. 214 00:10:56,060 --> 00:10:57,670 What was meant to be a peacekeeping mission 215 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,460 turned into something else. 216 00:11:00,590 --> 00:11:02,330 When Marines took fire in Lebanon, 217 00:11:02,460 --> 00:11:03,720 the U.S. retaliated. 218 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,950 And they were accused of taking sides. 219 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,470 And so the efforts by the United States 220 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,300 to bring about the removal of all foreign forces... 221 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:18,430 failed. 222 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:22,610 Terror and chaos reign in Beirut. 223 00:11:22,740 --> 00:11:24,610 Fighting was as bad, or nearly as bad, 224 00:11:24,740 --> 00:11:26,010 as anything since the civil war 225 00:11:26,140 --> 00:11:28,750 began back in 1975. 226 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,400 Taking direct inspiration 227 00:11:30,530 --> 00:11:33,580 from the Iranian hostage crisis of 1979... 228 00:11:33,710 --> 00:11:35,230 Four Lebanese employees 229 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,320 of the Associated Press here in Beirut this morning 230 00:11:37,450 --> 00:11:38,800 are still missing. 231 00:11:38,930 --> 00:11:40,670 Shiite radicals in Lebanon 232 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,940 began to take hostages. 233 00:11:43,070 --> 00:11:44,630 The Iranians weren't the first to do this. 234 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,460 There was a long tradition in Lebanon, 235 00:11:47,590 --> 00:11:49,470 as part of a fight between clans 236 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,290 or between ethnic groups of taking people hostage. 237 00:11:52,420 --> 00:11:54,470 Some argue the Islamic Fundamentalist movement 238 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,210 at the base of the hostage taking 239 00:11:56,340 --> 00:12:00,040 has grown not just in numbers but also in fanaticism. 240 00:12:00,170 --> 00:12:04,040 After 1979, the Iranians came to learn, 241 00:12:04,180 --> 00:12:05,830 as did everybody else in the region, 242 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,960 that you can get a lot of leverage 243 00:12:08,090 --> 00:12:10,700 out of a couple of hostages 244 00:12:10,830 --> 00:12:12,750 when it came to dealing with the United States. 245 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,710 An American diplomat is being held 246 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,620 by kidnappers in Beirut this morning. 247 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,710 Several U.S. citizens have been kidnapped. 248 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,930 All presumably by a fundamentalist Muslim group 249 00:12:23,060 --> 00:12:25,070 called the Party of God. 250 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,070 And it's threatening what they called a "black fate" 251 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,110 if Washington tries any retaliation. 252 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,200 Our approach... long, drawn out, 253 00:12:32,330 --> 00:12:35,510 attracting constant media attention... 254 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,120 that just played to the Iranians 255 00:12:37,250 --> 00:12:38,990 and to the hostage takers. 256 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,170 Any kind of hostage situation creates a huge dilemma... 257 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:45,740 whether you're going to be able 258 00:12:45,870 --> 00:12:50,000 to recover those hostages safely and securely 259 00:12:50,130 --> 00:12:53,400 or whether or not you are going to be 260 00:12:53,530 --> 00:12:55,620 in a situation where, 261 00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:58,930 because you can't pay ransom, 262 00:12:59,060 --> 00:13:02,890 you're going to basically have to risk losing their lives. 263 00:13:03,020 --> 00:13:05,150 It's a very difficult dilemma. 264 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,060 They hold all the cards 265 00:13:07,190 --> 00:13:10,380 once they have these people in their power. 266 00:13:10,410 --> 00:13:12,910 I can get mad enough now to think of a couple of things 267 00:13:12,940 --> 00:13:14,810 we could do to retaliate. 268 00:13:14,940 --> 00:13:17,070 But I would probably be sentencing 269 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,120 a number of Americans to death if I did it. 270 00:13:19,250 --> 00:13:21,600 They knew they had created a business, 271 00:13:21,730 --> 00:13:24,080 and they could extract all kinds of value from it. 272 00:13:24,210 --> 00:13:27,130 And as long as we were not willing 273 00:13:27,260 --> 00:13:32,090 to make anyone pay for this behavior, 274 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:34,350 it was going to continue, and it did. 275 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,620 In February of 1984, 276 00:13:38,750 --> 00:13:41,710 Reagan withdrew American troops from Lebanon. 277 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,230 It was a controversial move. 278 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,630 Critics believed it signified a win for Islamic terrorism. 279 00:13:49,410 --> 00:13:52,630 It was a low point in the Reagan presidency. 280 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,940 But things were about to get much worse. 281 00:13:56,940 --> 00:13:59,940 Between 1984 and 1985, 282 00:14:00,070 --> 00:14:02,990 seven Americans were taken hostage in Beirut. 283 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Among them was Reverend Benjamin Weir, 284 00:14:05,170 --> 00:14:06,950 a Presbyterian minister 285 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,910 who had lived and worked in Lebanon for 30 years. 286 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:13,740 An American clergyman has been kidnapped in Beirut. 287 00:14:13,870 --> 00:14:17,000 The story is still unfolding. 288 00:14:17,130 --> 00:14:19,570 My father was the representative 289 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:21,230 of the Presbyterian Church 290 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,970 to the people of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Iran. 291 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:25,930 He knew a lot of people. 292 00:14:26,060 --> 00:14:28,930 He was well-known. He was well-liked. 293 00:14:30,020 --> 00:14:33,020 Early on the morning of May 8, 1984, 294 00:14:33,150 --> 00:14:34,760 Reverend Weir and his wife, Carol, 295 00:14:34,890 --> 00:14:36,200 were leaving their apartment. 296 00:14:36,330 --> 00:14:37,890 Police here say he and his wife 297 00:14:38,020 --> 00:14:40,160 were walking down a narrow lane in West Beirut 298 00:14:40,290 --> 00:14:42,380 when three unarmed men overpowered him 299 00:14:42,510 --> 00:14:44,900 and then forced him into a car, which sped away. 300 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:47,250 My mom tried to fight them off, 301 00:14:47,380 --> 00:14:51,560 and they basically just muscled him into the car 302 00:14:51,690 --> 00:14:53,130 and drove off. 303 00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:54,780 I don't think he was kidnapped 304 00:14:54,910 --> 00:14:58,040 for anything that he has said or done. 305 00:14:58,180 --> 00:15:01,180 I think he was kidnapped to give visibility 306 00:15:01,310 --> 00:15:04,880 to the disillusionment people have here 307 00:15:05,010 --> 00:15:08,970 with the American policies in this area. 308 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:11,930 My father was very aware of his situation 309 00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:13,840 and his surroundings. 310 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:16,240 He didn't go out that much, to be honest. 311 00:15:16,370 --> 00:15:18,240 I was never really worried about that happening. 312 00:15:32,780 --> 00:15:34,470 In addition to Weir, 313 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,910 the group of hostages included a Catholic priest, 314 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,090 a correspondent for the Associated Press, 315 00:15:39,220 --> 00:15:42,870 and three employees of the American University in Beirut. 316 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,350 The White House was most concerned 317 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,660 with one hostage in particular: 318 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:48,790 a U.S. official named William Buckley. 319 00:15:51,490 --> 00:15:53,840 There is no word at all from Beirut tonight 320 00:15:53,970 --> 00:15:56,760 on the whereabouts of American diplomat William Buckley. 321 00:15:56,890 --> 00:15:59,110 The political officer at the U.S. embassy 322 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,280 was kidnapped this morning as he left for work. 323 00:16:02,410 --> 00:16:04,810 But William Buckley wasn't just a diplomat. 324 00:16:04,940 --> 00:16:07,110 He was a CIA agent. 325 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,160 Before his capture, Buckley's mission had been to rebuild 326 00:16:10,290 --> 00:16:12,210 the agency's Middle Eastern intelligence network. 327 00:16:12,340 --> 00:16:15,250 It was a huge, important job. 328 00:16:15,380 --> 00:16:17,690 CIA director Bill Casey had handpicked Buckley 329 00:16:17,820 --> 00:16:19,820 for the position 330 00:16:19,950 --> 00:16:23,870 after the U.S. embassy bombing in Beirut in 1983. 331 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,040 According to neighbors, 332 00:16:25,180 --> 00:16:26,530 Buckley was just leaving 333 00:16:26,660 --> 00:16:28,700 his apartment building in his car this morning 334 00:16:28,830 --> 00:16:30,270 when three gunmen in a white sedan 335 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,310 suddenly drove up and blocked the street. 336 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,400 Buckley had been with the CIA for decades. 337 00:16:36,530 --> 00:16:38,880 His capture was a major security liability 338 00:16:39,020 --> 00:16:40,970 for the Reagan administration, 339 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:42,710 and his well-being became a top concern 340 00:16:42,850 --> 00:16:44,320 for President Reagan. 341 00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:46,200 The watchman at Buckley's apartment 342 00:16:46,330 --> 00:16:48,850 said one of the gunmen walked up to the diplomat's car, 343 00:16:48,980 --> 00:16:50,070 put a gun to his head, 344 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,250 and ordered him into their car. 345 00:16:52,380 --> 00:16:55,120 But CIA director Casey was especially troubled. 346 00:16:55,250 --> 00:16:57,250 Buckley was one of his men, 347 00:16:57,380 --> 00:16:59,120 and he knew a lot of secrets 348 00:16:59,250 --> 00:17:00,650 that his kidnappers would surely try 349 00:17:00,780 --> 00:17:01,860 to torture out of him. 350 00:17:01,990 --> 00:17:03,870 Bill Casey understood that 351 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 if you really want to keep morale up in your agency, 352 00:17:06,130 --> 00:17:08,630 you better let people know you're gonna do everything 353 00:17:08,670 --> 00:17:10,670 you can to not leave them behind. 354 00:17:10,700 --> 00:17:14,090 We tried to use every diplomatic channel we could 355 00:17:14,220 --> 00:17:17,490 to reach the captors. 356 00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:19,970 We didn't know if he was dead or not. 357 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:21,800 Generally, there's a rule that we had 358 00:17:21,930 --> 00:17:23,450 when I was secretary of defense: 359 00:17:23,580 --> 00:17:26,190 you never leave anybody behind. 360 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,150 You owe that person who was taken 361 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,370 every effort to try to get that person back 362 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:34,810 securely and safely. 363 00:17:34,940 --> 00:17:36,460 While the Reagan administration 364 00:17:36,590 --> 00:17:38,940 looked for ways to save Buckley, 365 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,250 the family of Benjamin Weir remained in the dark. 366 00:17:42,380 --> 00:17:44,340 Have you had any indication from the state department 367 00:17:44,470 --> 00:17:46,950 or anyone else that your dad is alive? 368 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,390 Well, we hear from time to time 369 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,520 through other sources that he is alive and well. 370 00:17:52,650 --> 00:17:54,570 And everyone assumes that he is alive. 371 00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:56,920 But from day to day, we really don't know if he is alive. 372 00:18:00,310 --> 00:18:03,880 We are wanting to try to have an appointment 373 00:18:04,010 --> 00:18:08,100 with the secretary of state and to the president 374 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:13,850 to see if we can't speed up the release of these men. 375 00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:16,200 I remember talking to my sisters 376 00:18:16,330 --> 00:18:20,200 and my sisters being upset and my mom being very upset. 377 00:18:20,330 --> 00:18:23,990 You know, just the complete lack of information. 378 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:25,510 My mother was just very worried 379 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,040 about what people would do to him. 380 00:18:28,170 --> 00:18:29,730 She would always say, you know, 381 00:18:29,870 --> 00:18:32,000 "He's a very gentle man." 382 00:18:32,130 --> 00:18:33,870 You know, I think she was worried 383 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,090 that he would be injured in some way 384 00:18:36,220 --> 00:18:38,870 or killed in some way. 385 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,270 And then, suddenly, there was news. 386 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,270 The letter was dated February 15th. 387 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,020 It was mailed February 19th from Beirut. 388 00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:55,460 Reverend Weir's captors released videos and letters, 389 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:57,810 giving his family the proof of life they were desperate for. 390 00:18:57,940 --> 00:18:59,940 "I am writing to ask you 391 00:19:00,070 --> 00:19:03,640 "to do everything in your means to demand 392 00:19:03,770 --> 00:19:07,820 "that the U.S. government intervene effectively 393 00:19:07,950 --> 00:19:10,080 with the government of Kuwait." 394 00:19:11,340 --> 00:19:13,650 The Shia group holding Reverend Weir 395 00:19:13,780 --> 00:19:17,480 wanted the U.S. to negotiate a prisoner swap with Kuwait, 396 00:19:17,610 --> 00:19:20,610 but the Reagan administration was unwilling to assist. 397 00:19:20,740 --> 00:19:22,920 While President Reagan clearly wanted 398 00:19:23,050 --> 00:19:25,360 to bring about freedom for the hostages, 399 00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:27,440 the American policy was, 400 00:19:27,570 --> 00:19:29,790 "We don't make concessions to terrorists. 401 00:19:29,930 --> 00:19:31,450 We're not gonna compromise." 402 00:19:31,580 --> 00:19:33,840 The United States gives terrorists no rewards 403 00:19:33,970 --> 00:19:35,450 and no guarantees. 404 00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:39,020 We make no concessions. We make no deals. 405 00:19:39,150 --> 00:19:41,280 "We make no deals." 406 00:19:41,410 --> 00:19:42,890 What started as a talking point 407 00:19:43,030 --> 00:19:45,110 in Reagan's campaign 408 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,250 had become a mantra for the administration. 409 00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:51,340 Let me further make it plain to the assassins in Beirut 410 00:19:51,470 --> 00:19:53,210 and their accomplices 411 00:19:53,340 --> 00:19:56,650 that America will never make concessions to terrorists. 412 00:19:56,780 --> 00:19:59,480 We have tried our best, through every kind of channel, 413 00:19:59,610 --> 00:20:01,430 to establish their whereabouts. 414 00:20:01,570 --> 00:20:05,660 It is an extremely difficult, seemingly impossible task. 415 00:20:05,790 --> 00:20:07,920 And no, we haven't given up on them. 416 00:20:08,050 --> 00:20:09,180 We have never given up. 417 00:20:09,310 --> 00:20:12,360 It's... as you can realize, 418 00:20:12,490 --> 00:20:14,450 it's very frustrating. 419 00:20:14,580 --> 00:20:15,930 We're doing everything that can be done, 420 00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:17,540 and I have no further comments 421 00:20:17,670 --> 00:20:19,100 that I'm going to make at this time. 422 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,890 Every government in the modern era 423 00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:23,020 has had to figure out 424 00:20:23,150 --> 00:20:25,280 what to do about hostage-taking and terrorism. 425 00:20:25,420 --> 00:20:27,500 Some governments are more known 426 00:20:27,630 --> 00:20:30,200 for being willing to strike deals. 427 00:20:30,330 --> 00:20:33,420 The United States has almost always had a policy 428 00:20:33,550 --> 00:20:36,380 of no negotiation... at least a formal policy. 429 00:20:36,510 --> 00:20:40,260 The Reagan White House had made a lot of political hay 430 00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:43,480 out of Jimmy Carter's issues with the hostages in Iran. 431 00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:45,000 We've endured this humiliation 432 00:20:45,130 --> 00:20:46,960 for just lacking one week of a year now. 433 00:20:47,090 --> 00:20:48,310 People have been telling me 434 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,960 that Jimmy Carter's doing his best, 435 00:20:50,090 --> 00:20:51,090 and that's our problem. 436 00:20:52,270 --> 00:20:54,140 It was pretty clear to us 437 00:20:54,270 --> 00:20:56,270 that they were kind of suppressing, 438 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,270 as much as they could, 439 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,060 discussion of hostages or use of the word "hostages," 440 00:21:01,190 --> 00:21:03,980 and they did not want to have a hostage problem 441 00:21:04,110 --> 00:21:06,240 like Jimmy Carter'd had. 442 00:21:06,370 --> 00:21:08,240 Promising retaliation had been easy 443 00:21:08,370 --> 00:21:10,460 when Reagan was welcoming hostages home. 444 00:21:10,590 --> 00:21:13,510 Let terrorists be aware that when the rules 445 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,640 of international behavior are violated, 446 00:21:16,770 --> 00:21:21,600 our policy will be one of swift and effective retribution. 447 00:21:21,730 --> 00:21:24,340 Now it was another thing altogether. 448 00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:28,610 We have used every effort 449 00:21:28,740 --> 00:21:33,570 to see if we can locate who has them, where they are, 450 00:21:33,700 --> 00:21:35,310 whether they're together or separated. 451 00:21:37,490 --> 00:21:39,840 For now, this new hostage crisis 452 00:21:39,970 --> 00:21:42,270 was not receiving the same level of public attention 453 00:21:42,410 --> 00:21:45,410 the 1979 crisis had, 454 00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:49,020 and that was convenient for President Reagan. 455 00:21:49,150 --> 00:21:50,330 But it wouldn't last. 456 00:21:50,460 --> 00:21:52,760 It's been 311 days 457 00:21:52,890 --> 00:21:54,590 since an American Presbyterian minister 458 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,510 was grabbed on the streets of Beirut, 459 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,550 one of four missing Americans presumed to be in the hands 460 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,080 of extremist Shiite Muslims in Lebanon. 461 00:22:04,210 --> 00:22:07,470 As Carol Weir continued to search for answers, 462 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,300 she relied on the personal contacts 463 00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:13,260 she had made during her 30 years in Lebanon. 464 00:22:13,390 --> 00:22:16,090 She knew people, and she knew the players. 465 00:22:16,220 --> 00:22:17,610 Though my mother was not in tune 466 00:22:17,740 --> 00:22:19,310 to all the local political details 467 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,140 like my dad was, 468 00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:23,840 she certainly, you know, was politically aware 469 00:22:23,970 --> 00:22:25,490 of some of the things that were going on. 470 00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:27,450 And, you know, she started trying to figure out 471 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:29,410 who had him, what was going on, 472 00:22:29,540 --> 00:22:31,370 what did they want, what could she do 473 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:34,850 to accelerate the process of getting my dad released. 474 00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:36,980 But Carol Weir's questions to Washington 475 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:38,640 were going unanswered. 476 00:22:38,770 --> 00:22:40,380 We met with Secretary of State George Schultz... 477 00:22:40,510 --> 00:22:42,380 my mother, myself, 478 00:22:42,510 --> 00:22:46,380 and a couple of the executives of the program agency, 479 00:22:46,510 --> 00:22:49,340 and we found that to be a very, very frustrating meeting 480 00:22:49,470 --> 00:22:51,560 and that Secretary Shultz 481 00:22:51,690 --> 00:22:54,560 really did not have very much information. 482 00:22:54,690 --> 00:22:57,830 We had asked for a meeting with the president. 483 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,700 He said he would convey that to the president. 484 00:23:00,830 --> 00:23:02,180 We were never given an appointment 485 00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:03,530 with the president. 486 00:23:03,660 --> 00:23:05,050 We were told he wouldn't have time. 487 00:23:05,180 --> 00:23:06,490 It was just a very discouraging 488 00:23:06,620 --> 00:23:10,320 and rather disillusioning time for me. 489 00:23:10,450 --> 00:23:12,190 When she finally did hear something, 490 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,020 she was assured the U.S. government 491 00:23:14,150 --> 00:23:16,370 was doing all they could. 492 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:18,460 They were just being quiet about it. 493 00:23:18,590 --> 00:23:21,500 It became described as "quiet diplomacy." 494 00:23:21,630 --> 00:23:24,290 You know, "You just need to be patient." 495 00:23:24,420 --> 00:23:27,380 To Reagan, quiet diplomacy was working with our allies, 496 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:28,860 working with the countries 497 00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:31,510 where we had established relationships, 498 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,560 not necessarily holding summits 499 00:23:34,690 --> 00:23:36,690 or press conferences, 500 00:23:36,820 --> 00:23:40,130 but coming up with some kind of at least 501 00:23:40,260 --> 00:23:43,350 a short-term or daily strategy 502 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,050 to try to get the hostages freed. 503 00:23:46,180 --> 00:23:47,490 That was not an answer 504 00:23:47,620 --> 00:23:49,750 that my mother was willing to accept. 505 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,230 None of the American officials were able or willing 506 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:55,060 to give her any significant information. 507 00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:57,320 And it didn't seem, to her, 508 00:23:57,450 --> 00:23:59,410 that they were making any progress. 509 00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:01,150 So she was very frustrated. 510 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,720 Carol Weir decided then 511 00:24:03,850 --> 00:24:06,110 to take matters into her own hands. 512 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,330 It's been more than ten months 513 00:24:07,460 --> 00:24:08,730 since the Reverend Benjamin Weir 514 00:24:08,860 --> 00:24:10,510 was kidnapped outside his apartment 515 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,600 by terrorists in Beirut. 516 00:24:12,730 --> 00:24:14,170 - Good morning, Mrs. Weir. - Good morning. 517 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:15,860 Do you think the government 518 00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:19,740 has been doing all it can to gain his release? 519 00:24:19,870 --> 00:24:22,650 Well, I think the government has been at work, 520 00:24:22,780 --> 00:24:27,610 but I think a special effort needs to be made now, 521 00:24:27,740 --> 00:24:31,140 and that's what I'd like to see happen. 522 00:24:31,270 --> 00:24:32,710 Weir began what was essentially 523 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,580 a cross-country press tour. 524 00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:37,450 This has been nearly 11 months 525 00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:41,240 since my husband, the Reverend Benjamin Weir, 526 00:24:41,370 --> 00:24:44,460 was kidnapped in Beirut, Lebanon. 527 00:24:44,590 --> 00:24:47,330 She gave speeches at churches, on TV shows 528 00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:48,770 to anyone who would listen. 529 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:51,810 I'm convinced that the administration 530 00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:55,470 is not doing enough to get my husband released. 531 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,950 I would like the United States government 532 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,000 to open all channels of communication. 533 00:25:01,130 --> 00:25:04,170 He was kidnapped not because of any relationship 534 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:07,480 we have had with the Lebanese, 535 00:25:07,610 --> 00:25:11,350 but he was kidnapped because he is an American. 536 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,660 And once they had the attention of the media, 537 00:25:13,790 --> 00:25:16,270 the Weirs renewed their lobbying efforts. 538 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,450 I am asking the administration 539 00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:22,670 to give a higher priority to this matter. 540 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,410 And I need your help too. 541 00:25:25,540 --> 00:25:28,810 I urge you to write to the president 542 00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:31,850 seeking his personal intervention 543 00:25:31,980 --> 00:25:33,980 for the release of Ben 544 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,990 and the other hostages being held. 545 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,860 We were constantly trying to come up 546 00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:40,990 with a way of delivering the message 547 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,040 that this had gone on long enough. 548 00:25:43,170 --> 00:25:45,520 Part of it was just keeping it in the public eye, 549 00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:48,610 reminding the White House that we were there, 550 00:25:48,740 --> 00:25:50,740 hoping that somebody would be able 551 00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:52,310 to come up with an answer. 552 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,270 - Mrs. Weir, good luck. - Thank you. 553 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,480 We're... we're all with you. 554 00:25:57,490 --> 00:25:59,710 Finally, the Weirs got in direct contact 555 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,880 with the president. 556 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,800 Nope. Not that one. 557 00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:10,190 We asked for a meeting with Jimmy Carter 558 00:26:10,330 --> 00:26:12,020 and put out some feelers, 559 00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:14,110 and some people responded that they could set it up. 560 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:21,730 So we flew to the airport in Atlanta, 561 00:26:21,860 --> 00:26:25,730 and Jimmy Carter met us in a lounge at the airport. 562 00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:28,430 That the Weirs wanted to meet with former President Carter 563 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,910 may come as a surprise. 564 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,820 Then again, he did have experience 565 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,830 navigating a hostage crisis. 566 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,570 And he was a very humble guy, very modest. 567 00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:38,440 He said, "You know, 568 00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:41,230 I'm not really sure you're gonna want my advice." 569 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:42,970 And we said, 570 00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,320 "No, you know, we really want to hear from you. 571 00:26:45,450 --> 00:26:47,010 "You know, what can we do? 572 00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:48,710 What aren't we doing that we should be doing?" 573 00:26:51,540 --> 00:26:53,760 He said, "You know, Bud McFarlane works 574 00:26:53,890 --> 00:26:55,370 "in the current administration, 575 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:57,760 "in the National Security Council. 576 00:26:57,890 --> 00:27:01,330 And Bud is a good guy." 577 00:27:01,460 --> 00:27:03,600 And here we should step back to introduce 578 00:27:03,730 --> 00:27:06,510 one of the key players in the Iran-Contra scandal: 579 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:10,560 Robert "Bud" McFarlane, 580 00:27:10,690 --> 00:27:14,160 who became Reagan's National Security Adviser in 1983. 581 00:27:14,190 --> 00:27:15,990 Mr. President, there's several things 582 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,410 this morning on the agenda. 583 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,780 For McFarlane, 584 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,960 the job of National Security Adviser 585 00:27:21,090 --> 00:27:23,570 was a logical step in a distinguished career 586 00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:25,700 that included two tours in Vietnam 587 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,660 and stints as an aide 588 00:27:27,790 --> 00:27:30,840 for some of the top political minds of his era. 589 00:27:30,970 --> 00:27:33,800 I had worked for Henry Kissinger for four years. 590 00:27:33,930 --> 00:27:37,630 Was on the staff of the Senate Armed Services Committee. 591 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,720 Henry was and remains 592 00:27:39,850 --> 00:27:43,640 a profoundly important influence in my life 593 00:27:43,770 --> 00:27:47,640 in shaping how I go about defining a problem. 594 00:27:47,770 --> 00:27:50,820 As an assistant to Henry Kissinger in 1971, 595 00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:53,600 McFarlane witnessed Kissinger's landmark achievement 596 00:27:53,730 --> 00:27:55,560 of opening relations with China. 597 00:27:55,690 --> 00:27:57,390 And ever since, he had aspired 598 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,870 to a foreign policy trophy of his own. 599 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,870 He had a framework within his mind, 600 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,620 which I admired and generally adopted for my own behavior 601 00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:11,710 in analyzing a given set of problems. 602 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,840 My first impressions of Bud McFarlane 603 00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:18,060 was that he was a hard-nosed, strategic thinker. 604 00:28:18,190 --> 00:28:21,150 And I was extremely excited about the prospect 605 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,110 of actually working with someone who had studied 606 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,550 and worked with Henry Kissinger. 607 00:28:27,810 --> 00:28:30,510 Another member of the National Security Council 608 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,430 was Reagan's secretary of state, George Schultz. 609 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,250 And, as it turned out, 610 00:28:36,380 --> 00:28:38,910 Schultz had a different view of the NSC than McFarlane. 611 00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:06,540 As national security adviser, Bud McFarlane had Reagan's ear. 612 00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:10,850 So the Weirs traveled to Washington to meet with him. 613 00:29:13,070 --> 00:29:17,080 McFarlane's an extremely deliberate speaker. 614 00:29:17,210 --> 00:29:18,900 Very thoughtful guy. 615 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,560 Very calm. 616 00:29:21,690 --> 00:29:24,040 He said, "You know, I understand what's going on. 617 00:29:24,170 --> 00:29:26,000 "We're working on this. 618 00:29:26,130 --> 00:29:27,870 "We're well aware of what you guys are doing. 619 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,830 "And you guys should keep it up. 620 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,920 "And I got a guy on my staff, 621 00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:36,880 "Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, 622 00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:38,880 "and he will be your contact person. 623 00:29:39,010 --> 00:29:41,800 "And if you have any questions or any issues, 624 00:29:41,930 --> 00:29:44,840 Colonel North will make himself available to you." 625 00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:46,580 The Weirs were thankful 626 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,200 to have a contact in the White House. 627 00:29:49,330 --> 00:29:51,940 But, initially, at least, Oliver North didn't seem 628 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:54,810 to deliver any further breakthroughs. 629 00:29:54,940 --> 00:29:57,900 Colonel North would provide information from time to time 630 00:29:58,030 --> 00:29:59,990 about trips he was taking. 631 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,640 He wouldn't give any details, but he would say, 632 00:30:02,770 --> 00:30:06,600 "Well, you know, I flew in an F-14 to go to Europe 633 00:30:06,740 --> 00:30:09,560 for a quick meeting that was really important." 634 00:30:09,690 --> 00:30:13,790 They never really gave us any solid information. 635 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,750 It was never really clear to us what they were up to 636 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,750 or what they were doing, and when they thought 637 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,320 the hostage situation would be resolved. 638 00:30:22,450 --> 00:30:24,490 But we did feel like we were finally talking 639 00:30:24,620 --> 00:30:26,230 to the right people. 640 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,450 The Weirs were cautiously optimistic. 641 00:30:30,890 --> 00:30:32,980 But President Reagan's hostage crisis was just beginning. 642 00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:36,680 110 hostages, at least 85 643 00:30:36,810 --> 00:30:40,760 and possibly as many as 102 of them Americans. 644 00:30:40,790 --> 00:30:42,390 Only a few feet from the cockpit. 645 00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:43,820 I can see Captain John Testrake. 646 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,560 When TWA 847 was hijacked, 647 00:30:50,690 --> 00:30:53,740 that specific hostage situation 648 00:30:53,870 --> 00:30:56,790 became nearly all-consuming. 649 00:31:00,140 --> 00:31:02,360 There was very little that happened 650 00:31:02,490 --> 00:31:04,100 where the president didn't ask about hostages. 651 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:06,060 They said that they would shoot 652 00:31:06,190 --> 00:31:09,010 an American every five minutes 653 00:31:09,150 --> 00:31:11,840 if they did not get their demands. 654 00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:13,980 The hijacking took Reagan's hostage problem 655 00:31:14,110 --> 00:31:15,800 to a new level. 656 00:31:15,930 --> 00:31:18,020 The CBS movie will begin immediately 657 00:31:18,150 --> 00:31:21,330 following the CBS News report on today's hijacking. 658 00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:24,250 This hijacking took TWA Flight 847 659 00:31:24,380 --> 00:31:26,640 on a horror-filled odyssey from almost one end 660 00:31:26,770 --> 00:31:28,120 of the Mediterranean to the other. 661 00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:30,950 TWA Flight 847 lifts off 662 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,470 from Athens, Greece bound for Rome. 663 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,040 Two men who were sitting in the rearmost seats 664 00:31:36,170 --> 00:31:39,570 of the aircraft got up and ran to the front of the plane. 665 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,090 20 minutes into a routine flight from Athens to Rome, 666 00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:48,840 two Shia militants took control of Flight 847 667 00:31:48,970 --> 00:31:54,020 and the 145 passengers aboard, most of them Americans. 668 00:31:54,150 --> 00:31:56,320 They went into the cockpit. 669 00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:59,720 One of them re-emerged with a... with a gun. 670 00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:02,720 The TWA hijackers eventually redirected 671 00:32:02,850 --> 00:32:05,200 the flight to Beirut International Airport. 672 00:32:21,390 --> 00:32:23,650 Pleads from the plane crew became more urgent. 673 00:32:23,790 --> 00:32:26,220 He wants to fuel now. 674 00:32:26,350 --> 00:32:28,700 Immediately. Five minutes, at the most, 675 00:32:28,830 --> 00:32:30,360 or he's going to kill passengers. 676 00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:32,750 We are doing our best. 677 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,360 The hijackers collected passports 678 00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:37,020 and began separating passengers. 679 00:32:37,150 --> 00:32:38,580 Those with Jewish-sounding names 680 00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:39,800 were moved to the front. 681 00:32:41,980 --> 00:32:44,200 Three members of the U.S. military were identified, 682 00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:47,460 putting their lives in danger. 683 00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:51,120 Among them was a U.S. navy diver named Robert Stethem. 684 00:32:51,250 --> 00:32:53,030 Fuel was not all they wanted. 685 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,430 The hijackers demanded that all Lebanese Shiite Muslims 686 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,340 held by Israel be released to the Red Cross. 687 00:32:58,470 --> 00:33:01,210 There are some 700 in Israeli prisons. 688 00:33:01,340 --> 00:33:03,090 After some negotiation, 689 00:33:03,220 --> 00:33:05,220 the plane was refueled in exchange for the release 690 00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:07,260 of 17 women and two children. 691 00:33:07,390 --> 00:33:10,700 I hope everybody back home will pray for us. 692 00:33:10,830 --> 00:33:12,880 But even with their release, 693 00:33:13,010 --> 00:33:16,050 the situation on the plane continued to deteriorate. 694 00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:19,490 That afternoon, the plane is forced to fly to Algiers, 695 00:33:19,620 --> 00:33:22,500 the first of two very long round-trip journeys 696 00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:25,150 the terrorists will make in a day and a half. 697 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,800 We have been flying all day long. 698 00:33:37,210 --> 00:33:39,050 The pilot told the control tower the hijackers 699 00:33:39,051 --> 00:33:41,189 were now threatening to throw one of the Americans 700 00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:42,270 out of the plane. 701 00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:44,080 The runway was cleared and lit. 702 00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:46,780 The plane landed with only a few minutes fuel remaining. 703 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,660 The White House had been monitoring 704 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:52,320 the situation closely. 705 00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:54,180 But before President Reagan could deliver 706 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:55,880 an official address on the hijacking, 707 00:33:56,010 --> 00:33:57,530 tragedy struck. 708 00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:14,110 Robert Stethem was brought to the tarmac 709 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:15,980 and shot in the temple. 710 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,030 Reagan couldn't stay silent any longer. 711 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,990 His murder and the fate of the other American hostages 712 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:30,090 still being held in Beirut underscore an inescapable fact: 713 00:34:30,220 --> 00:34:33,350 the United States is tonight a nation being attacked 714 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,920 by international terrorists and want... 715 00:34:36,050 --> 00:34:37,960 and who wantonly kill 716 00:34:38,090 --> 00:34:41,360 and who seize our innocent citizens as their prisoners. 717 00:34:41,490 --> 00:34:43,840 Two days after Stethem's murder, 718 00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:45,880 Reagan called an emergency meeting 719 00:34:46,010 --> 00:34:48,280 of the National Security Council. 720 00:34:48,410 --> 00:34:52,410 He began by unfolding a letter and reading it out loud. 721 00:34:52,540 --> 00:34:55,200 The letter, written by 29 of the American hostages 722 00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:57,160 on Flight 847, 723 00:34:57,290 --> 00:35:00,070 was addressed directly to Reagan. 724 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,950 This letter from the TWA hostages was very painful. 725 00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:09,780 It was clear that the president was in pain. 726 00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:11,610 In the letter, 727 00:35:11,740 --> 00:35:14,220 the hostages made a desperate plea for the president 728 00:35:14,350 --> 00:35:17,570 to negotiate their release, to convince the Israelis 729 00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:19,480 to free the 700 Lebanese prisoners 730 00:35:19,610 --> 00:35:21,920 the hijackers had demanded. 731 00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:23,830 When the president finished reading, 732 00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:25,270 he looked around at his aides 733 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,270 and asked them what could be done. 734 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,100 But then you have to say, 735 00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:31,360 "We're gonna do everything we can to get you out, 736 00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:35,280 "but we're not going to change "our principles or our morality 737 00:35:35,410 --> 00:35:37,410 "or the things we believe in just to save you. 738 00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:42,510 We're not gonna compromise." 739 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,290 The risk was that we would be seen as a country 740 00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:48,860 that would pay money for hostages, 741 00:35:48,990 --> 00:35:51,470 and that put everybody at risk. 742 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,170 So it was very important to bring an end to that idea. 743 00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:58,000 With the pushback from Reagan's secretary of state 744 00:35:58,130 --> 00:36:00,040 and the rest of his National Security Council, 745 00:36:00,180 --> 00:36:01,390 the conversation stalled. 746 00:36:04,270 --> 00:36:06,620 But Reagan kept thinking about the letter. 747 00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:09,880 The humanity was visible to everyone. 748 00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:11,930 Everyone was moved. 749 00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:14,020 And I'm sure it actually hardened 750 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:16,060 the president's determination 751 00:36:16,190 --> 00:36:18,500 to bring about a peaceful solution. 752 00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:20,630 Reagan's sense was, 753 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,940 "This is something that I can really 754 00:36:23,070 --> 00:36:25,850 "make an impact on as President. 755 00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:27,460 "It's my job... 756 00:36:27,590 --> 00:36:29,330 it's my responsibility to get them back." 757 00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:34,560 Facts are hard to come by, difficult to confirm. 758 00:36:34,690 --> 00:36:38,040 As sure as anything can be in the hurly-burly and horror 759 00:36:38,170 --> 00:36:39,950 of a murderous hijacking... 760 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,310 You now had global coverage. 761 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,920 We know what the power of television still is, 762 00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:48,750 and it was very powerful then. 763 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,050 And no one understood that better than Ronald Reagan. 764 00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:54,190 In Beirut, five of the Americans held hostage 765 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,140 were put on display by terrorists holding them, 766 00:36:56,270 --> 00:36:57,540 paraded into a room and surrounded 767 00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:59,840 by about 100 teenagers with machine guns. 768 00:36:59,970 --> 00:37:01,370 Sit down, sit down! 769 00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:03,540 When they were having their first conference, 770 00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:06,020 it really scared us, really scared us. 771 00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:07,760 There had never been anything like it. 772 00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:10,550 It was a worldwide first: competitive journalists 773 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,160 interviewing captors with captives. 774 00:37:13,290 --> 00:37:15,770 We, as a group do most importantly want 775 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:20,080 to beseech President Reagan and our fellow Americans 776 00:37:20,210 --> 00:37:24,520 to refrain from any form of military or violent means 777 00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:27,570 as an attempt, no matter how noble or heroic, 778 00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:29,390 to secure our freedom. 779 00:37:29,530 --> 00:37:33,010 I miss my wife very much. I want to go home. 780 00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:35,230 And God willing, we'll be home soon. 781 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,270 Critics call the coverage excessive 782 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,100 and accuse journalists of interfering in a crisis, 783 00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:43,580 of turning from observers to negotiators. 784 00:37:43,710 --> 00:37:46,500 There were a lot of ethical concerns at the time. 785 00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:50,240 I always felt that we had the responsibility 786 00:37:50,370 --> 00:37:53,380 to keep people apprised of what was happening. 787 00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:55,380 The families needed to know. 788 00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:57,990 The American government needed to know. 789 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,730 But we were also giving a free platform 790 00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:05,260 to these groups that were using us. 791 00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:07,350 The terrorists in the TWA crisis 792 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,610 received immeasurable attention. 793 00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:11,480 But it was the way they got it 794 00:38:11,610 --> 00:38:13,790 that has inflamed the new debate over the role 795 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,140 and responsibility of the news media. 796 00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:16,570 Here, you had a situation 797 00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:18,620 of human beings isolated from their families, 798 00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:20,920 totally controlled by the... by the thugs, 799 00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:22,710 knowing that men with AK-47s 800 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,450 were prepared to blow them away, 801 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,420 knowing they were gonna leave that room 802 00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:28,160 and go back into... into prison, 803 00:38:28,190 --> 00:38:29,720 and yet that press conference 804 00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:31,590 was dealt with as though it was normal people 805 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:33,460 talking to us in a normal setting. 806 00:38:33,590 --> 00:38:35,590 That's crazy. 807 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:38,590 We were kind of caught in the middle. 808 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,250 I remember reporting 809 00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:42,770 with a very uneasy feeling at the time. 810 00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:45,300 Yet, in a way, we were held hostage, 811 00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:47,650 because it was a story that could not be ignored. 812 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,260 With the media storm growing, 813 00:38:55,390 --> 00:38:57,270 Reagan became further preoccupied 814 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,490 with the task of freeing the TWA hostages. 815 00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:03,660 Reagan met with his national security team every morning. 816 00:39:03,790 --> 00:39:07,490 At what point can you pay off the terrorists 817 00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:09,890 without endangering people from here on out 818 00:39:10,020 --> 00:39:12,250 once they find out that their tactics succeed? 819 00:39:12,670 --> 00:39:15,370 That question always came up 820 00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:18,680 because he never wanted them not to be focused on it, 821 00:39:18,810 --> 00:39:20,720 wanted it on the tops of their minds 822 00:39:20,850 --> 00:39:23,380 as it was on Reagan's... 823 00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:27,470 and to find a way to get them back. 824 00:39:35,350 --> 00:39:38,440 On July 1, after more than two weeks in captivity... 825 00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:44,530 ...the TWA hostages were finally released. 826 00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:49,360 And three days later, 827 00:39:49,490 --> 00:39:54,190 the Israeli government freed 300 Lebanese prisoners. 828 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,370 The U.S. denied any connection to the release, 829 00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:00,200 and Israel claimed the timing was just a coincidence. 830 00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:03,900 There's only one thing to say, 831 00:40:04,030 --> 00:40:05,860 and I say it from the bottom of my heart, 832 00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:08,380 in the name of all the people of our country: 833 00:40:08,510 --> 00:40:10,600 welcome home. 834 00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:19,390 The release of the TWA hostages 835 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,790 should have brought a measure of relief for Reagan. 836 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,270 But there were still seven American hostages in Beirut 837 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,570 who needed his help. 838 00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:29,660 We can be thankful that our faith, courage, 839 00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:31,880 and firmness have paid off. 840 00:40:32,010 --> 00:40:34,750 But this is no moment for celebration. 841 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,630 Let it be clearly understood that the seven Americans 842 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,240 still held captive in Lebanon must be released 843 00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:44,330 along with other innocent hostages from other countries. 844 00:40:45,590 --> 00:40:50,420 In the emotionally fraught days after the TWA crisis, 845 00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:53,600 Bud McFarlane took a meeting with a trusted associate 846 00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:56,210 who seemed to offer a way to help the Beirut hostages. 847 00:40:58,650 --> 00:41:01,390 An Israeli diplomat named David Kimche. 848 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,480 David Kimche was 849 00:41:03,610 --> 00:41:05,650 the director-general of Israel's Foreign Ministry. 850 00:41:05,780 --> 00:41:11,180 I think that this is a test of the sincere attitude 851 00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:14,320 of our neighboring countries to terrorism. 852 00:41:14,450 --> 00:41:16,880 They had their relationship going back several years. 853 00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:18,800 They knew each other quite well. 854 00:41:18,930 --> 00:41:21,880 And they regularly met and talked about the world. 855 00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:23,860 So this was another one of those meetings. 856 00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:25,760 But at this meeting, 857 00:41:25,890 --> 00:41:29,160 Kimche came up with a particular suggestion. 858 00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:34,340 Out of respect for David and his wisdom, 859 00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:37,600 I listened to what he said, and it was simply stated 860 00:41:37,730 --> 00:41:40,860 that there are elements in the Iranian Army 861 00:41:40,990 --> 00:41:43,690 that are prepared to open a dialogue with us. 862 00:41:47,570 --> 00:41:50,700 Kimche was offering a back channel to Iran 863 00:41:50,830 --> 00:41:54,920 that could help de-escalate the hostage crisis. 864 00:41:55,050 --> 00:41:58,490 Given the relationship between the U.S. and Iran at the time, 865 00:41:58,620 --> 00:42:02,060 the possibility of such a back channel was astonishing. 866 00:42:02,190 --> 00:42:04,670 But there was no one happier to entertain the idea 867 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,500 than Bud McFarlane. 868 00:42:07,630 --> 00:42:10,020 McFarlane had long believed it was possible 869 00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:12,760 that there were moderates within the Iranian government 870 00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:15,160 who would be receptive to a diplomatic relationship 871 00:42:15,290 --> 00:42:16,730 with the United States. 872 00:42:16,860 --> 00:42:18,860 I really didn't imagine 873 00:42:18,990 --> 00:42:21,510 that we had a plausible prospect 874 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,860 of being able to engage with this government. 875 00:42:24,990 --> 00:42:27,690 I did think, however, that there were reasons 876 00:42:27,820 --> 00:42:32,050 why the circumstances facing Iran 877 00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:36,790 might give us an opportunity to influence a regime change. 878 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,660 It was essentially just a hunch, 879 00:42:39,790 --> 00:42:41,790 but it was guided by the same strategic thinking 880 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,360 that he had learned from his mentor, 881 00:42:43,490 --> 00:42:44,490 Henry Kissinger. 882 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,760 But there was a catch. 883 00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:53,330 David's opinion was that 884 00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:55,500 the people that his intermediary 885 00:42:55,630 --> 00:42:58,030 was dealing with in the Iranian Army 886 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:04,160 were people who had the military and political wit, 887 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,910 and for them to engage with us at all, 888 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,780 being at risk and us being at risk, 889 00:43:10,910 --> 00:43:12,870 each would have to show evidence 890 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,440 to their own constituencies. 891 00:43:15,570 --> 00:43:18,610 Iran wanted the U.S. to supply them with weapons 892 00:43:18,740 --> 00:43:21,660 for use in their war with Iraq. 893 00:43:21,790 --> 00:43:23,230 It was a big request. 894 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,450 But the Iranians were offering something valuable in return, 895 00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:31,800 something that Reagan was desperate for. 896 00:43:31,930 --> 00:43:34,800 As long as those people are there and threatened, 897 00:43:34,930 --> 00:43:37,680 we cannot give up on them. 898 00:43:37,810 --> 00:43:40,640 And I hope that they have confidence in that. 899 00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:42,550 Kimche was saying 900 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,340 Iran could help free the hostages in Beirut. 901 00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:48,690 He proposed a meeting between McFarlane 902 00:43:48,820 --> 00:43:50,560 and an Iranian intermediary 903 00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:53,000 who could move the conversation forward. 904 00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:58,870 Kimche presented it as their being able to achieve 905 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,530 the release of the hostages. 906 00:44:04,090 --> 00:44:07,880 And while his name may be unfamiliar to most, 907 00:44:08,010 --> 00:44:11,490 he is an essential character in the Iran-Contra story. 908 00:44:11,620 --> 00:44:13,410 So, where should we resume? 909 00:44:13,540 --> 00:44:15,140 We want to talk about Ghorbanifar. 910 00:44:16,890 --> 00:44:18,980 The Iranian intermediary 911 00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:22,810 for the Iran initiative, as we called it, 912 00:44:22,940 --> 00:44:26,510 was a man named Manucher Ghorbanifar. 913 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,340 He was a short, overweight, 914 00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:32,950 balding, bearded guy 915 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,430 who you certainly wouldn't have taken 916 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,040 for an international arms dealer. 917 00:44:37,170 --> 00:44:39,610 But that's what he was. 918 00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:42,440 Ghorbanifar played this pivotal role, 919 00:44:42,570 --> 00:44:44,870 sort of a classic rug merchant role... 920 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,880 try to bring the sides together. 921 00:44:48,010 --> 00:44:51,710 He had a relationship with the Israeli government, 922 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,880 and he convinced them 923 00:44:54,010 --> 00:44:56,970 that there were elements in Iran 924 00:44:57,100 --> 00:44:59,890 that were now becoming more pragmatic, 925 00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:02,800 who wanted to talk. 926 00:45:02,930 --> 00:45:05,330 And after a few weeks of discussion, 927 00:45:05,460 --> 00:45:07,500 a proposal was made: 928 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,640 100 American missiles would be traded 929 00:45:09,770 --> 00:45:11,680 for all seven American hostages. 930 00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:14,640 It was straightforward, 931 00:45:14,770 --> 00:45:16,730 but presented some major risks. 932 00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:19,600 There was only an acceptable risk 933 00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:21,520 if you had very high confidence 934 00:45:21,650 --> 00:45:26,570 in the good faith of the Iranian counterparts. 935 00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:29,220 And I didn't know any of them. 936 00:45:29,350 --> 00:45:32,570 Even though McFarlane didn't know Ghorbanifar, 937 00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:34,840 his reputation preceded him. 938 00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:37,100 We called him Gorba, 939 00:45:37,230 --> 00:45:40,100 and that was the polite name we had for him. 940 00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:43,060 He was a prevaricator, liar, 941 00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:47,020 thief of the first magnitude, 942 00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:49,110 well-known for these attributes 943 00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,850 amongst various agencies. 944 00:45:51,980 --> 00:45:55,120 Ghorbanifar was well-known to the CIA. 945 00:45:55,250 --> 00:45:57,510 And although the CIA concluded he was a fabricator, 946 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,730 many countries, including Israel, 947 00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:01,860 continued to deal with him. 948 00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:04,820 They wanted to re-establish diplomatic, 949 00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:07,960 government-to-government relations with Iran. 950 00:46:08,090 --> 00:46:11,000 And by the way, we get the hostages out too. 951 00:46:11,130 --> 00:46:14,700 It was a noble idea, I guess. 952 00:46:14,830 --> 00:46:17,750 But they picked the wrong communicator 953 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,270 in this guy Gorba. 954 00:46:21,140 --> 00:46:23,010 McFarlane was also troubled 955 00:46:23,150 --> 00:46:26,710 by the terms of the deal, specifically the weapons. 956 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,650 After the 1979 hostage crisis... 957 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,600 Americans held hostage. Pictures of their... 958 00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:32,150 ...there was an international effort 959 00:46:32,290 --> 00:46:35,770 to stop weapons sales to Iran. 960 00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:38,640 The United States had promoted and upheld the policy. 961 00:46:38,770 --> 00:46:41,030 If the rules of international behavior are violated... 962 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,900 If it leaked out that they 963 00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:44,950 were secretly selling weapons to Iran, 964 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,000 it would be a diplomatic disaster. 965 00:46:48,130 --> 00:46:52,350 So there was a lot for McFarlane to look past. 966 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,830 But he decided to bring the proposal to the president. 967 00:46:56,830 --> 00:46:58,010 There was an unexpected development 968 00:46:58,140 --> 00:47:00,050 for President Reagan today 969 00:47:00,180 --> 00:47:04,060 during an operation to remove a small polyp from his colon. 970 00:47:04,190 --> 00:47:07,580 Doctors discovered a second larger growth on his intestine. 971 00:47:07,710 --> 00:47:09,840 That will require major surgery. 972 00:47:09,970 --> 00:47:11,930 Around the time of McFarlane 973 00:47:12,060 --> 00:47:13,940 and Ghorbanifar's conversations, 974 00:47:14,070 --> 00:47:16,980 President Reagan underwent surgery. 975 00:47:17,110 --> 00:47:18,720 The hostages were one of the first things 976 00:47:18,850 --> 00:47:19,900 he asked about when he woke up. 977 00:47:20,030 --> 00:47:21,600 How you feeling? 978 00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:26,160 And so it was at the hospital 979 00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:29,170 that McFarlane spoke with Reagan for the first time 980 00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:33,390 about the idea of trading arms for hostages with Iran. 981 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,740 I gave him the factual summary of what Kimche had said... 982 00:47:37,870 --> 00:47:40,140 that he, Kimche, had concluded 983 00:47:40,270 --> 00:47:43,830 that there were disaffected officers, 984 00:47:43,970 --> 00:47:47,970 portrayed them as being open to working with us. 985 00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:51,890 McFarlane told Reagan that the Iranian moderates 986 00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:54,190 were willing to pressure their associates in Beirut 987 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,890 to release the American hostages 988 00:47:56,020 --> 00:47:59,330 still being held in Lebanon. 989 00:47:59,460 --> 00:48:04,940 And he brightened immediately and said, 990 00:48:05,070 --> 00:48:09,730 "We really ought to keep the dialogue going." 991 00:48:09,860 --> 00:48:13,040 I said, "This is a very high-risk venture for you, 992 00:48:13,170 --> 00:48:16,430 "politically... that it's very uncertain 993 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,180 "that this can be maintained in clandestine terms." 994 00:48:21,310 --> 00:48:24,790 But he focused upon what Kimche had said. 995 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,960 "But we can't let an opportunity 996 00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:29,880 of that... though it's risky... go by." 997 00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:33,280 It might be surprising 998 00:48:33,410 --> 00:48:36,280 that Reagan was willing to accept the idea so quickly. 999 00:48:36,410 --> 00:48:39,280 Negotiating with terrorists, after all, would violate 1000 00:48:39,410 --> 00:48:43,330 one of the core principles of Reagan's presidency. 1001 00:48:43,460 --> 00:48:45,940 Working on the Middle East and terrorism 1002 00:48:46,070 --> 00:48:50,030 was a constant struggle of reconciling contradictions. 1003 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,820 It was important for us to have a clear policy 1004 00:48:53,950 --> 00:48:56,080 that we do not negotiate with terrorists. 1005 00:48:56,210 --> 00:48:58,260 Having said that, 1006 00:48:58,390 --> 00:49:03,130 sometimes realists have to break principles 1007 00:49:03,260 --> 00:49:07,480 and do what is necessary to try to achieve a goal. 1008 00:49:07,610 --> 00:49:10,360 Almost from the outset, the administration was divided 1009 00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:12,660 on the viability of the proposal. 1010 00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:16,930 McFarlane had tried to push this idea earlier 1011 00:49:17,060 --> 00:49:19,760 and had gotten laughed out of town, basically. 1012 00:49:19,890 --> 00:49:21,800 Caspar Weinberger, the secretary of defense, 1013 00:49:21,930 --> 00:49:23,370 said something like, 1014 00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:26,200 "This is almost too absurd to comment on. 1015 00:49:26,330 --> 00:49:28,940 "It would be like inviting Gaddafi of Libya 1016 00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:31,420 for a cozy chat." 1017 00:49:31,550 --> 00:49:35,250 So McFarlane was shut down, but he didn't give up. 1018 00:49:35,380 --> 00:49:37,300 George Schultz was indifferent about it. 1019 00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:40,120 Thought that it had merit, but was uneasy. 1020 00:49:40,260 --> 00:49:42,740 Weinberger was totally opposed to it. 1021 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:44,830 In the end, it was Reagan who said, 1022 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,960 "Just do it. Let's go. It has to be done now." 1023 00:49:49,090 --> 00:49:51,790 Bud had his marching orders, and he did not relent. 1024 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,700 He didn't hold back, and it went forward. 1025 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,360 So how was the United States 1026 00:49:56,490 --> 00:49:58,710 going to sell a cache of missiles to Iran 1027 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,800 without anyone knowing? 1028 00:50:00,930 --> 00:50:04,280 We didn't want to use any American military aircraft, 1029 00:50:04,410 --> 00:50:09,280 so the Israelis became the sort of logistical center, 1030 00:50:09,410 --> 00:50:14,030 in part due to geography, but also because Ghorbanifar, 1031 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,770 the Iranian middleman, had approached the Israelis. 1032 00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:19,860 And the Israelis were very cooperative. 1033 00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:21,170 And so it was decided. 1034 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,210 American-owned weapons would pass through Israel, 1035 00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:28,650 and Israel would make the sale to Iran. 1036 00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:32,090 With the big picture worked out, 1037 00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:34,350 McFarlane turned the operation over 1038 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,790 to one of his most trusted deputies... 1039 00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:39,180 Oliver North. 1040 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,010 Terrorists, be on notice. 1041 00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:47,840 We will fight back against you in Lebanon and elsewhere. 1042 00:50:47,980 --> 00:50:50,060 We will fight back against your cowardly attacks 1043 00:50:50,190 --> 00:50:52,200 on American citizens and property. 1044 00:50:52,330 --> 00:50:55,110 We will not rest until justice is done 1045 00:50:57,420 --> 00:51:00,160 The Weir family and the families of the other hostages 1046 00:51:00,290 --> 00:51:02,990 still remained largely in the dark. 1047 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,910 With the information they had, all they could do was hope. 1048 00:51:07,950 --> 00:51:09,170 Well, I'm one of the family members 1049 00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:11,090 that tries not to get excited, 1050 00:51:11,220 --> 00:51:13,000 because we ride quite an emotional roller coaster, 1051 00:51:13,130 --> 00:51:15,960 going from the peaks, during these rumors, to the valleys, 1052 00:51:16,090 --> 00:51:18,180 where you don't hear anything for many months on end. 1053 00:51:18,310 --> 00:51:20,010 So I'm very hopeful. 1054 00:51:22,180 --> 00:51:24,320 But I'm not going to change any of my plans 1055 00:51:24,450 --> 00:51:26,710 until I'm certain it's true. 82702

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