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In the criminal
justice system,
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The people are represented by two
separate Yet equally important groups
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The police
who investigate crime
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And the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories..
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- All right,
a little bit more.
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Come on, Allie, come on.
You can do better than that.
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Let yourself go.
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Nice.
Oh, my god.
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Give me a pout.
Come on.
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Feel the clothes
against your skin, baby.
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There you go.
That's it.
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Think nasty thoughts.
I love it. It's beautiful.
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Hey. Hey!
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We're trying to
sell clothes here, man.
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These are for billboards.
You gotta think big.
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- I got it, Sid.
I got it.
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[laughter]
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- Who are they?
- I don't know.
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- If I'm not paying you
to be here, get the hell out.
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[laughter]
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Am I paying you?
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- I'm the dj.
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I spin records
at one of your stores.
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- Oh, so you
put this song on?
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You're fired!
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You know what?
In fact, everybody, get out!
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Everybody, let's go!
Come on, out! Okay?
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Not you, baby.
Everybody else.
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I'll finish the shoot myself.
Thank you.
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Out!
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Come on, baby.
That's it. Okay.
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Oh, my god!
I love it!
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Oh, yeah, that's it.
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- D.O.A.'s
name is Sid Maxwell.
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The neighbor came home
at 3:00 a.M.
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And saw the door
propped open.
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Almost had a heart attack
when he saw the body.
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- What do we got,
a sex mishap?
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- If it was erotic asphyxia,
he miscalculated.
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No fluids.
He lost consciousness too soon.
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- The guy could've saved himself
just by standing up.
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- Pushing the limits
is part of the thrill.
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But if you take it
a little too far...
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- No happy ending.
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These look like tights.
Double-knotted.
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He's supposed to have
done this himself?
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- He could've tied his hands
in front,
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Then stepped over them,
like this.
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I'm just speculating.
It's not from experience.
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- Good.
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There was a photo shoot
going on?
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- [exhales]
tripod, no camera.
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Here's
the photographer's name.
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- Yeah.
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Looks like he missed
the best shot.
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- I gotta get going.
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We just caught a fresh one.
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- I'll alert the criminals
you're on your way.
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- May be
no criminals involved.
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Just solo sex
gone horribly wrong.
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- Solo sex?
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That has to be wrong.
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- Well, here we go.
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First day of the new me.
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What do you think?
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- I always had a thing
for Grace Jones.
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You're beautiful.
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- Sid seemed fine yesterday.
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Manic.
Total prick, like always.
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You can be that way
if you're rich, I guess.
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- How did he get rich?
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- By starting
skintight apparel.
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He was the sexy underwear king
of the lower east side.
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He threw everybody out
around 6:00, including me.
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- He threw the photographer
out of a photo shoot?
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- Sid liked to
do things himself.
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- Yeah. So we gather.
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- The girl
stayed behind, though.
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- The model?
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- Model, hooker, girlfriend,
employee of the month.
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It was kind of
a fluid position.
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- Uh-huh.
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- Sid and I met
when I was working three jobs
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And sharing a loft
with six roommates.
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He hired me on the spot.
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- Hired you
to do what, exactly?
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Hold up.
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- Anything Sid wanted.
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Working in the store,
modeling.
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- Spotting for him
during s & m sessions?
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- Sid said he wanted
to try something new.
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I didn't want to
seem like a prude.
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He just wanted me
to watch.
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- So did you?
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- I told him I had to go get
cigarettes at the store.
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I was weirded out.
I just went home.
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- So you just
left him hanging there
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With his hands
tied behind his back?
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- No.
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His hands were not tied
when I left.
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- Did any of his staff
have complaints?
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- Yeah, there was one girl.
She got pretty freaked out.
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I think she sued him.
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- That son of a bitch.
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He pulled my top off
at a photo shoot
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At the
st. Patrick's day parade.
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No warning.
Just, "oops, you're naked."
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- And that was more
than what you bargained for?
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- My job description didn't say
"get raped by leprechauns."
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Sid's lawyers said
I should have understood
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I was working in a
highly-sexualized environment.
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- Well, it sounds like
you had a good case.
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- We'll never know.
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Sid's lawyers buried my guy
in so many motions,
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I couldn't afford
to keep going.
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I lost.
Sid won.
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- When was the last time
you saw Mr. Maxwell?
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- I don't know.
Six months.
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- No contact after that?
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- I told myself
the one good thing
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Was I'd never have to
hear his voice again.
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And I didn't.
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And now I never will.
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- Huh. This guy
had a way with women.
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All sex all the time.
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- His company sells
five-Dollar t-shirts for $40.
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Sex is part of the brand.
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- And his model-slash-
girlfriend-slash-whatever
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Was fine with that?
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- According to her.
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- The building's
surveillance camera
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Shows her leaving
Maxwell's place at 10:00.
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Then it stopped working.
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- Well,
that's a coincidence.
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- She left
the apartment door ajar
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So she could get back in.
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The building door
had a keypad lock.
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Maxwell gave her the number,
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But she took off for brooklyn
instead.
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- Where an atm saw her
withdrawing cash at 10:30.
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Time of death
was after midnight.
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- Sag paneer, loo?
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- Oh, no thanks.
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Me and food aren't
getting along that great.
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- "you are a hideous pig."
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Uh, it's, uh,
"I heard your lawyer quit.
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Now how are you going to pay
for the boob job you need?"
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It's a text message between
Sid Maxwell and Bonnie Allman,
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The girl who sued him.
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- She said she hadn't heard
from him in six months.
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- She said she hadn't
heard his voice.
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Maxwell sent this
to her last Monday.
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Yeah. Tuesday,
Maxwell filed a complaint.
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His car was vandalized.
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- Bonnie Allman
strikes back?
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- "text this, scumbag!"
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- Yeah.
"love, Bonnie"?
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- She saved the ten cents
it would cost to reply by text,
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And this was
so much more satisfying.
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- The car doesn't
look like it's been driven
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Since the incident.
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The driver's window
is smashed,
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With shards of glass
embedded in the seat.
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Whoever did this
used some force.
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- Yeah. Somebody cared.
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- I've got some prints
where the basher
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May have leaned in
to slash the upholstery.
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I'll get them
over to latents.
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- No match.
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The prints on the car
don't belong to Bonnie Allman.
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- Do they match
anyone we know?
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- Got a dozen hits
for a guy named Todd bissell.
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He's a perp
that was arrested
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For public lewdness
12 years ago.
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- Okay.
B-I--two ss?
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- Yeah.
- All right.
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Mr. Bissell.
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Am I nuts, or is that
Sid Maxwell with a moustache?
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- 12 years ago,
lean and hungry.
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He must have
changed his name
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When he became
the underwear king.
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- Okay. Let's see what else
he was up to as Todd bissell.
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- What's that?
- "flashposse.Net.
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A site dedicated
to righting social wrongs."
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- Is he typing on that
with both hands?
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- Yeah,
and flashposse is mad.
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"this idiot veered into my lane
on the fdr today.
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He was texting while driving.
I could have been killed."
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Look at this one from
Freddy-six in long island.
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"somebody needs to kill him
before he does kill someone."
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- How'd they know
who it was?
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- Hmm, "I identified
the car and model
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"from its dashboard and then
hacked into dmv records
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"for every '79 Mercedes
that color in New York,
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"New Jersey
and Connecticut.
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"I found one
that is registered
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To someone
named Todd bissell."
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- Mm-hmm.
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- They posted his address.
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"326 bowery,
apartment 11a,
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"in case anybody
wants to drop by
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And teach this jerk
some manners."
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- Somebody did.
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- It's not a blog.
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It's a forum for
corrective social action.
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- Yeah, well, it struck me
like a well-chummed shark tank.
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- Look, if somebody lets
their dog crap on the sidewalk,
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That's an offense to everybody
that walks by, right?
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This is just a way
of striking back.
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- So you take a picture
of the owner,
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Find out who they are,
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Post their address
and phone number.
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- So people can tell them
what they think.
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If they shove dog crap
in our faces,
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They can take a phone call.
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- Hmm. How do you get
this information?
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- Flashposse.Net
has thousands of visitors.
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Between us, we have
a lot of expertise,
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A lot of connections.
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- In China they call it
a human flesh search engine.
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- Yeah,
there was a woman there,
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She posted a video
of herself
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Stepping on a kitten
and killing it.
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Just her shoe
and the kitten.
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People blew up the video,
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They found out
where the shoe came from,
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They identified a building
in the background.
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- They found out
who it was.
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She lost her job,
she had to go into hiding.
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- Do you feel bad for her?
I don't.
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- We're here about a man
named Todd bissell,
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And as far as I know,
he didn't massacre any cats.
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- Bissell's just as bad.
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Do you know how dangerous
texting while driving is?
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- Yeah.
"somebody should kill this guy."
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From your website.
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I didn't realize
it deserved the death penalty.
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- You never heard of
hyperbole, detective?
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- It wasn't hyperbole.
Todd bissell was murdered.
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- Under his other name,
Sid Maxwell.
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- And you think we had
something to do with that?
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- We'd like the names
of your members
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Who posted threats
against Mr. Bissell.
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- No.
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- Hmm.
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We are the police,
Mr. Leary.
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And it's our job to take
"corrective social action."
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00:11:03,016 --> 00:11:05,951
- No.
250
00:11:06,019 --> 00:11:08,320
- All right,
all right.
251
00:11:21,324 --> 00:11:23,558
- Well, the comments on the
website are pretty intense.
252
00:11:23,626 --> 00:11:26,461
- The comments on that website
are probably free speech.
253
00:11:26,529 --> 00:11:28,797
It's not going to be easy
to uphold a subpoena.
254
00:11:28,865 --> 00:11:31,566
- Is this free speech?
It's from the site.
255
00:11:31,634 --> 00:11:33,802
This is Maxwell's
vandalized car.
256
00:11:33,870 --> 00:11:36,304
- You think the guy
who vandalized the car
257
00:11:36,372 --> 00:11:37,906
Took the picture?
258
00:11:37,974 --> 00:11:40,442
- We can't prove it.
259
00:11:40,510 --> 00:11:42,577
- Neither can I.
260
00:11:42,645 --> 00:11:46,014
Listen, if you can show
the flashposse's hot air
261
00:11:46,082 --> 00:11:48,583
Has real world consequences,
I might be able
262
00:11:48,651 --> 00:11:50,285
To convince a judge
to give us those names.
263
00:11:50,353 --> 00:11:52,320
- Well, that site goes after
a lot of people.
264
00:11:52,388 --> 00:11:54,890
- Find me a good one.
265
00:11:58,060 --> 00:11:59,728
- I thought the worst thing
that could happen
266
00:11:59,795 --> 00:12:02,230
Was when my husband
committed suicide.
267
00:12:02,298 --> 00:12:05,433
Then, a month later,
the phone calls started.
268
00:12:05,501 --> 00:12:07,335
People I didn't know.
269
00:12:07,403 --> 00:12:08,770
They called me a whore.
270
00:12:08,838 --> 00:12:10,472
They said
it was my fault.
271
00:12:10,540 --> 00:12:13,642
The website posted excerpts
from my husband's diary
272
00:12:13,709 --> 00:12:16,077
That it got
from his parents.
273
00:12:16,145 --> 00:12:18,380
They said I had an affair
274
00:12:18,447 --> 00:12:20,682
And that's why Donald
killed himself.
275
00:12:20,750 --> 00:12:22,584
I asked the website
to take them down.
276
00:12:22,652 --> 00:12:25,754
They said they were
providing a public service,
277
00:12:25,821 --> 00:12:28,490
Letting the public decide what
was right and what was wrong.
278
00:12:28,558 --> 00:12:31,259
- It's my understanding that
Mr. Leary offered ms. Davies
279
00:12:31,327 --> 00:12:33,028
The chance to tell
her side of the story.
280
00:12:33,095 --> 00:12:34,296
- I'm supposed to go
on a public website
281
00:12:34,363 --> 00:12:36,965
And tell the world
I had an affair,
282
00:12:37,033 --> 00:12:40,435
But my husband had 20,
and he was clinically depressed?
283
00:12:40,503 --> 00:12:43,939
Isn't that private?
Shouldn't that be private?
284
00:12:44,006 --> 00:12:46,241
Who made you god?
285
00:12:46,309 --> 00:12:48,143
Why don't you
leave people alone?
286
00:12:48,211 --> 00:12:50,178
- Okay, okay.
Thank you, ma'am.
287
00:12:52,848 --> 00:12:56,751
Okay, now what does that
have to do with this subpoena?
288
00:12:56,819 --> 00:12:59,387
- It demonstrates that threats
made on Mr. Leary's website
289
00:12:59,455 --> 00:13:00,388
Have consequences.
290
00:13:00,456 --> 00:13:01,456
- Ms. Rubirosa
is talking about
291
00:13:01,524 --> 00:13:02,757
Constitutionally-protected
opinions.
292
00:13:02,825 --> 00:13:04,492
The subpoena
should be quashed.
293
00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:05,560
- No, I am talking about
294
00:13:05,628 --> 00:13:06,928
Specific threats made
to kill a man
295
00:13:06,996 --> 00:13:08,463
Who soon after was killed.
296
00:13:08,531 --> 00:13:09,764
- That's venting.
It's hot air.
297
00:13:09,832 --> 00:13:11,233
"I could kill that guy
who stole my parking place."
298
00:13:11,300 --> 00:13:12,767
It's a figure of speech.
299
00:13:12,835 --> 00:13:14,970
- Not to Rebecca Davies,
it's not, as we just heard.
300
00:13:15,037 --> 00:13:16,271
- If anyone harassed
that woman, arrest them.
301
00:13:16,339 --> 00:13:17,572
They committed a crime.
302
00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,975
But people who expressed
opinions on a website did not.
303
00:13:20,042 --> 00:13:24,279
- I feel sorry for the lady,
ms. Rubirosa. I really do.
304
00:13:24,347 --> 00:13:28,483
But I honestly don't see what
she has to do with Mr. Maxwell.
305
00:13:30,586 --> 00:13:32,887
- Rubirosa just called.
[cell phone rings]
306
00:13:32,955 --> 00:13:34,789
No subpoena for the names.
307
00:13:34,857 --> 00:13:35,790
- Bernard.
308
00:13:35,858 --> 00:13:37,092
- So we find another way.
309
00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:38,927
- Who is this?
310
00:13:38,995 --> 00:13:41,029
Hey, screw you.
311
00:13:41,097 --> 00:13:44,032
- I'm guessing
that wasn't your mother.
312
00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:45,400
- Somebody calling me
a Nazi.
313
00:13:45,468 --> 00:13:47,502
You know, an hour ago,
somebody called,
314
00:13:47,570 --> 00:13:50,205
Telling me that I needed
to go on a diet.
315
00:13:50,273 --> 00:13:51,640
- Maybe
that was your mother.
316
00:13:51,707 --> 00:13:52,641
- No.
317
00:13:52,708 --> 00:13:53,642
[typing]
318
00:13:53,709 --> 00:13:54,643
[computer beeps]
319
00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:57,946
Oh, flashposse.Net.
320
00:14:00,750 --> 00:14:02,017
- "detective Kevin Bernard.
321
00:14:02,084 --> 00:14:03,318
Call and tell him
what you think."
322
00:14:03,386 --> 00:14:05,687
- Oh, they even posted
your cell phone number.
323
00:14:05,755 --> 00:14:06,755
Thoughtful.
324
00:14:06,822 --> 00:14:08,390
- My unlisted number.
325
00:14:08,457 --> 00:14:09,891
Somebody hacked it.
326
00:14:09,959 --> 00:14:11,393
- "corrective
social action."
327
00:14:11,460 --> 00:14:12,394
[computer beeps]
328
00:14:12,461 --> 00:14:13,928
- New post coming in.
329
00:14:13,996 --> 00:14:17,232
"this cop bully should be
ashamed of himself."
330
00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:19,901
- You know, if we were
set up right,
331
00:14:19,969 --> 00:14:22,203
We could trace these messages
as they're posted.
332
00:14:22,271 --> 00:14:23,738
That's when the links
are open.
333
00:14:23,806 --> 00:14:25,874
- So we wouldn't need
a subpoena.
334
00:14:25,941 --> 00:14:30,845
- Just a big juicy target
to get the ranters ranting.
335
00:14:34,750 --> 00:14:37,819
- What about lupo?
He's juicy.
336
00:14:37,887 --> 00:14:38,987
- [laughs]
thank you.
337
00:14:39,088 --> 00:14:40,488
But four years in intel.
338
00:14:40,556 --> 00:14:41,890
We don't want anyone digging
through that.
339
00:14:41,957 --> 00:14:46,328
- Plus, you seem to be the one
they like, detective.
340
00:14:52,101 --> 00:14:53,935
- These guys are good.
341
00:14:54,003 --> 00:14:55,136
They've got
your credit record up now
342
00:14:55,204 --> 00:14:56,471
And police reports.
343
00:14:56,539 --> 00:14:59,708
Were you arrested for speeding
in California in 1996?
344
00:14:59,775 --> 00:15:02,377
- Look, I got a ticket.
I paid the fine.
345
00:15:02,445 --> 00:15:07,949
- Okay,
and here is billyboy14.
346
00:15:08,017 --> 00:15:09,918
"this cop is an outrage.
347
00:15:09,985 --> 00:15:12,821
A policeman's first duty
is to protect our liberties."
348
00:15:12,888 --> 00:15:16,858
And here is our trace
on billyboy.
349
00:15:16,926 --> 00:15:18,626
- Where is he?
350
00:15:18,694 --> 00:15:20,929
- He's in astoria.
351
00:15:20,996 --> 00:15:22,764
- All right,
write him back.
352
00:15:22,832 --> 00:15:25,100
- Okay,
what's my screen name?
353
00:15:25,167 --> 00:15:26,668
- "detective Bernard."
354
00:15:26,736 --> 00:15:28,603
We want them
to know it's you.
355
00:15:28,671 --> 00:15:29,804
- All right.
356
00:15:29,872 --> 00:15:30,939
[typing]
357
00:15:31,006 --> 00:15:36,845
"my first duty
is to arrest criminals
358
00:15:36,912 --> 00:15:40,548
Who hide behind
bogus free speech."
359
00:15:40,616 --> 00:15:45,286
- Hmm, nice.
360
00:15:45,354 --> 00:15:47,922
All right,
looking good.
361
00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:49,190
You know
how to piss them off.
362
00:15:49,258 --> 00:15:50,358
- My special talent.
363
00:15:50,426 --> 00:15:52,327
- [laughs]
any of these screen names
364
00:15:52,395 --> 00:15:54,129
Match the people
who threatened Sid Maxwell?
365
00:15:54,196 --> 00:15:56,998
- Uh, yeah, one or two.
Hit 'em again.
366
00:15:57,099 --> 00:16:02,637
- "you're cowards
and you're stupid."
367
00:16:02,705 --> 00:16:05,140
[laughter]
368
00:16:05,207 --> 00:16:09,277
- Okay, okay, we are matching,
matching...
369
00:16:09,345 --> 00:16:11,813
Tracing, tracing...
370
00:16:17,620 --> 00:16:21,156
- Wow.
Oh, they hate you, b.
371
00:16:21,223 --> 00:16:22,991
They really hate you.
372
00:16:23,058 --> 00:16:26,161
- I see.
373
00:16:26,228 --> 00:16:28,563
Wow.
374
00:16:28,631 --> 00:16:30,231
- I was just
blowing off steam.
375
00:16:30,299 --> 00:16:32,133
That's not against the law.
- Hey.
376
00:16:32,201 --> 00:16:33,468
"if he can't keep
his hands on the wheel
377
00:16:33,536 --> 00:16:35,370
"and eyes on the road,
maybe he ought to lose them.
378
00:16:35,438 --> 00:16:37,338
Taliban justice."
379
00:16:37,406 --> 00:16:38,807
- It was a joke.
380
00:16:38,874 --> 00:16:42,043
- "this guy should be tied
in the middle of fdr drive
381
00:16:42,111 --> 00:16:45,146
While texting drivers
try to Dodge him,"
382
00:16:45,214 --> 00:16:47,248
Says sly-avenger.
383
00:16:47,316 --> 00:16:48,650
That's you, right?
384
00:16:48,717 --> 00:16:52,120
- Well,
that's not what happened
385
00:16:52,188 --> 00:16:55,457
To him, though,
is it?
386
00:16:55,524 --> 00:16:58,059
- I'm so embarrassed.
387
00:16:58,127 --> 00:17:01,729
Some of the things
I wrote about that man, I--
388
00:17:01,797 --> 00:17:03,832
My language
was inappropriate.
389
00:17:03,899 --> 00:17:07,469
- Well, frankly, ms. Sands,
you don't seem like the type.
390
00:17:07,536 --> 00:17:10,605
- I know.
It's just...
391
00:17:10,673 --> 00:17:12,340
[exhales]
392
00:17:12,408 --> 00:17:15,310
Three years ago,
my daughter was killed
393
00:17:15,377 --> 00:17:17,378
By a taxi driver
who was texting.
394
00:17:17,446 --> 00:17:18,947
- I'm so sorry.
395
00:17:19,014 --> 00:17:20,315
- They never caught him.
396
00:17:20,382 --> 00:17:24,419
And when I saw the photo
of that man texting,
397
00:17:24,487 --> 00:17:26,421
Not even looking
at the road...
398
00:17:26,489 --> 00:17:30,925
Some other child
could have been hurt.
399
00:17:30,993 --> 00:17:34,963
- Maybe I can look into
what happened to your daughter.
400
00:17:35,030 --> 00:17:37,799
- That would be...
401
00:17:37,867 --> 00:17:39,300
Thank you.
402
00:17:39,368 --> 00:17:41,369
- Someone hacked into
the security system
403
00:17:41,437 --> 00:17:43,705
At Sid Maxwell's building
the night he was killed.
404
00:17:43,772 --> 00:17:47,675
You worked as
a security systems engineer.
405
00:17:47,743 --> 00:17:49,744
- So?
406
00:17:49,812 --> 00:17:51,679
- This is a photo
of Maxwell's vandalized car,
407
00:17:51,747 --> 00:17:53,615
Uploaded
from your I.P. Address.
408
00:17:53,682 --> 00:17:55,717
If your prints are found
in his apartment,
409
00:17:55,784 --> 00:17:57,919
You're screwed.
410
00:17:57,987 --> 00:18:00,388
- I'm screwed?
411
00:18:00,456 --> 00:18:03,358
A, I didn't kill anybody.
412
00:18:03,425 --> 00:18:06,394
B, it's not
my social security number
413
00:18:06,462 --> 00:18:08,997
That got posted online
this morning.
414
00:18:12,034 --> 00:18:15,703
- So I should be going.
Is there anything else?
415
00:18:15,771 --> 00:18:19,107
- No, no. We have your--
your name and your address.
416
00:18:19,174 --> 00:18:21,009
- Thank you
for your concern.
417
00:18:21,076 --> 00:18:24,879
- Lieutenant, that information
you requested...
418
00:18:28,717 --> 00:18:32,020
- Ms. Sands,
419
00:18:32,087 --> 00:18:33,955
If you don't mind,
420
00:18:34,023 --> 00:18:37,325
Could you come back
and sit for a minute?
421
00:18:48,971 --> 00:18:53,641
- We checked accident reports
from three years ago,
422
00:18:53,709 --> 00:18:56,744
And there was no report
423
00:18:56,812 --> 00:19:00,515
Involving a taxi
and a child.
424
00:19:00,583 --> 00:19:02,016
- I saw it happen.
425
00:19:02,084 --> 00:19:06,254
- And you do have a daughter,
but she didn't die.
426
00:19:06,322 --> 00:19:08,690
Social services
took her away from you
427
00:19:08,757 --> 00:19:12,427
Because you offered her
to a catholic church
428
00:19:12,494 --> 00:19:14,729
As a human sacrifice.
429
00:19:14,797 --> 00:19:20,134
- I don't believe
in human sacrifices.
430
00:19:20,202 --> 00:19:21,469
- Ms. Sands,
431
00:19:21,537 --> 00:19:26,040
Were you at Mr. Maxwell's
apartment Friday night?
432
00:19:26,108 --> 00:19:29,043
- He was getting messages
from the devil.
433
00:19:29,111 --> 00:19:32,246
- Who was?
Mr. Maxwell?
434
00:19:32,314 --> 00:19:33,948
- Not just him.
435
00:19:34,016 --> 00:19:36,451
- He tells them
whom to kill.
436
00:19:37,620 --> 00:19:40,321
- Uh...
437
00:19:40,389 --> 00:19:44,025
Who tells who
whom to kill?
438
00:19:44,093 --> 00:19:46,928
Mr. Maxwell?
The devil?
439
00:19:49,632 --> 00:19:51,635
- May I please
see a lawyer now?
440
00:20:00,836 --> 00:20:02,003
- Ms. Sands has informed me
441
00:20:02,071 --> 00:20:03,304
That she has nothing else
to say at this time.
442
00:20:03,372 --> 00:20:05,840
- Except that people
who get texts while they drive
443
00:20:05,908 --> 00:20:07,141
Are servants of the devil.
444
00:20:07,209 --> 00:20:08,409
- Except that.
445
00:20:08,477 --> 00:20:10,111
- She already mentioned
446
00:20:10,179 --> 00:20:12,747
That Sid Maxwell
was one of those servants.
447
00:20:12,815 --> 00:20:14,616
- So you say.
I wasn't here.
448
00:20:14,683 --> 00:20:18,319
- Do you want to add
anything else, ms. Sands?
449
00:20:18,387 --> 00:20:20,655
- That man was evil.
450
00:20:20,723 --> 00:20:23,958
If you don't know that,
you shouldn't be a policeman.
451
00:20:24,026 --> 00:20:26,261
- Crazy enough for you?
452
00:20:26,328 --> 00:20:27,595
- Oh, yeah.
453
00:20:27,663 --> 00:20:30,231
Do you have any evidence
against her for the murder?
454
00:20:30,299 --> 00:20:33,201
- So far, just her rants
against Maxwell on the website.
455
00:20:33,269 --> 00:20:36,804
- Well, that and this--it's
enough for a search warrant.
456
00:20:40,342 --> 00:20:42,944
- Wow.
457
00:20:43,012 --> 00:20:47,148
- Texting while driving...
Texting while driving...
458
00:20:47,216 --> 00:20:50,585
Todd bissell...
Todd bissell...
459
00:20:52,121 --> 00:20:54,455
- This must be
Kerry sands' daughter,
460
00:20:54,523 --> 00:20:56,057
The one who isn't
actually dead.
461
00:20:56,125 --> 00:20:58,126
- Ah, yeah, the state
takes her daughter away
462
00:20:58,193 --> 00:21:01,162
And she can't deal with it,
and she comes up with this?
463
00:21:01,230 --> 00:21:03,331
I don't see the connection.
464
00:21:03,399 --> 00:21:04,866
- Hey, check it out.
465
00:21:04,933 --> 00:21:06,634
That's the girl
from the photo session
466
00:21:06,702 --> 00:21:08,836
The night bissell a.K.A.
Maxwell was killed.
467
00:21:08,904 --> 00:21:10,605
Looks like ms. Sands
took a souvenir.
468
00:21:10,673 --> 00:21:11,806
- That would put her
on the scene,
469
00:21:11,874 --> 00:21:12,874
But how did she get in
the building?
470
00:21:12,941 --> 00:21:15,310
- 8-4-2-6.
471
00:21:15,377 --> 00:21:16,611
That's the entry Code,
472
00:21:16,679 --> 00:21:19,447
Right next to a picture
of the keypad.
473
00:21:19,515 --> 00:21:21,282
- And that's Maxwell's
apartment door, propped open.
474
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:23,851
Looks like
a security camera still.
475
00:21:23,919 --> 00:21:26,654
- Yeah, a camera that
mysteriously went dark.
476
00:21:26,722 --> 00:21:28,723
- She was the one who hacked
into the security system?
477
00:21:28,791 --> 00:21:32,393
- No. The header says
flashposse.Net,
478
00:21:32,461 --> 00:21:36,097
Her friendly neighborhood
social justice website.
479
00:21:36,165 --> 00:21:39,067
- There's no time
or date on this.
480
00:21:39,134 --> 00:21:40,435
If she got this stuff
the night of the murder,
481
00:21:40,502 --> 00:21:41,836
That would
nail things down.
482
00:21:41,904 --> 00:21:44,238
- The flashposse computer would
show when they were posted.
483
00:21:44,306 --> 00:21:48,309
- Hey, can we go find out
with a warrant, please?
484
00:21:48,377 --> 00:21:49,310
- I'm calling my lawyer.
485
00:21:49,378 --> 00:21:50,545
- Yeah, when you do,
486
00:21:50,612 --> 00:21:51,746
Tell him
"the cop bully" is here
487
00:21:51,814 --> 00:21:53,381
With a search warrant
this time.
488
00:21:53,449 --> 00:21:54,816
- Hey,
you can't take that.
489
00:21:54,883 --> 00:21:55,983
- You'll get it back.
490
00:21:56,051 --> 00:21:57,185
- There's some more gear
back here.
491
00:21:57,252 --> 00:21:58,219
Anything else
you want me to take?
492
00:21:58,287 --> 00:21:59,687
- Ah, let me check.
493
00:21:59,755 --> 00:22:01,322
- This is harassment.
- No.
494
00:22:01,390 --> 00:22:03,925
Calling my cell phone
and telling me I'm a Nazi,
495
00:22:03,992 --> 00:22:04,926
That's harassment.
496
00:22:04,993 --> 00:22:05,927
- Oh, is that what
this is about?
497
00:22:05,994 --> 00:22:07,195
You can't stand
a little heat?
498
00:22:07,262 --> 00:22:08,529
- Look, I'm doing my job.
499
00:22:08,597 --> 00:22:10,765
This is about a murder
and a woman named Kerry sands.
500
00:22:10,833 --> 00:22:12,033
Do you know her?
501
00:22:12,101 --> 00:22:14,469
- The woman whose kid
wasn't killed by a taxi?
502
00:22:14,536 --> 00:22:16,003
Yeah.
We're open to the public.
503
00:22:16,071 --> 00:22:17,071
We take all comers.
504
00:22:17,139 --> 00:22:18,873
- That's it.
You ready to go?
505
00:22:18,941 --> 00:22:19,874
- Yeah.
506
00:22:19,942 --> 00:22:21,442
- Oh.
507
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:23,211
- Bye.
508
00:22:23,278 --> 00:22:24,712
- Here's the full dump
of material
509
00:22:24,780 --> 00:22:27,181
From the Sid Maxwell section
of flashposse.Net.
510
00:22:27,249 --> 00:22:29,684
- Yeah, the good stuff was
in a password-protected area
511
00:22:29,752 --> 00:22:33,254
For people who had a special
interest in Mr. Maxwell.
512
00:22:33,322 --> 00:22:34,522
- The Code to
his building's front door?
513
00:22:34,590 --> 00:22:38,126
- Right, just in case somebody
wanted to drop by.
514
00:22:38,193 --> 00:22:41,429
Ms. Sands accessed this photo
just after midnight.
515
00:22:41,497 --> 00:22:42,630
A few minutes later,
516
00:22:42,698 --> 00:22:44,866
She takes a car service
to Maxwell's apartment.
517
00:22:44,933 --> 00:22:46,567
- Do you have the driver?
- Mm-hmm.
518
00:22:46,635 --> 00:22:47,702
He remembers her
pretty well.
519
00:22:47,770 --> 00:22:49,537
She told him
she doesn't take taxis
520
00:22:49,605 --> 00:22:51,239
Because of their link
to the devil.
521
00:22:51,306 --> 00:22:52,540
- Hmm.
522
00:22:52,608 --> 00:22:54,842
Arrest her for murder,
and I will apply with the court
523
00:22:54,910 --> 00:22:57,211
For a 7:30 exam.
524
00:22:59,481 --> 00:23:01,682
- I found the police report
you filed
525
00:23:01,750 --> 00:23:04,419
About the taxi
striking your daughter.
526
00:23:04,486 --> 00:23:06,087
- The police
didn't do anything.
527
00:23:06,155 --> 00:23:07,488
They wouldn't do anything.
528
00:23:07,556 --> 00:23:10,057
- The report says
they investigated.
529
00:23:10,125 --> 00:23:14,162
The taxi hit a garbage can.
Nobody was injured.
530
00:23:14,229 --> 00:23:16,464
Why would it say that?
531
00:23:16,532 --> 00:23:20,368
- [sighs]
532
00:23:20,436 --> 00:23:25,973
Do I have to explain
everything to you?
533
00:23:26,041 --> 00:23:27,675
- Do you mind?
534
00:23:27,743 --> 00:23:30,411
- Oh, I don't know.
535
00:23:30,479 --> 00:23:32,647
Will you help me?
536
00:23:32,714 --> 00:23:34,148
- Help you do what?
537
00:23:34,216 --> 00:23:36,451
- Stop the killing.
538
00:23:36,518 --> 00:23:39,387
Stop the evil.
539
00:23:39,455 --> 00:23:42,023
- Like Sid Maxwell?
540
00:23:42,090 --> 00:23:43,891
Was he evil?
541
00:23:43,959 --> 00:23:47,895
- He got a message
when he was driving.
542
00:23:47,963 --> 00:23:49,964
That's when they send
the messages.
543
00:23:50,032 --> 00:23:51,966
They think no one can see.
544
00:23:52,034 --> 00:23:54,469
- What do the messages say?
545
00:23:54,536 --> 00:23:55,870
- Whom to kill.
546
00:23:55,938 --> 00:23:58,873
- So Sid Maxwell
was going to kill someone?
547
00:23:58,941 --> 00:24:01,676
- Isn't that
why we're here?
548
00:24:01,743 --> 00:24:03,578
- And you were supposed to do
something about that?
549
00:24:03,645 --> 00:24:05,646
- There was no point
calling the police.
550
00:24:05,714 --> 00:24:07,949
That report proves that.
551
00:24:08,016 --> 00:24:12,220
No, I had to take care
of that man myself.
552
00:24:12,287 --> 00:24:14,856
So I did.
553
00:24:14,923 --> 00:24:17,091
- She's a pretty well-managed
schizophrenic.
554
00:24:17,159 --> 00:24:19,227
It's not
immediately obvious.
555
00:24:19,294 --> 00:24:21,863
- Unless you start talking about
texting while driving?
556
00:24:21,930 --> 00:24:23,764
- Or about the devil.
557
00:24:23,832 --> 00:24:25,833
He sends messages
to his servants
558
00:24:25,901 --> 00:24:27,201
While they're
in their cars,
559
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:29,670
Telling them which
pure-hearted people to kill.
560
00:24:29,738 --> 00:24:32,306
- But she tried to have
her own daughter killed
561
00:24:32,374 --> 00:24:34,775
By human sacrifice.
562
00:24:34,843 --> 00:24:36,244
- For purification.
563
00:24:36,311 --> 00:24:38,312
Her delusion was
a little different then.
564
00:24:38,380 --> 00:24:40,448
When the state
took her daughter away,
565
00:24:40,516 --> 00:24:41,983
It rattled her reality.
566
00:24:42,050 --> 00:24:43,217
That same day,
567
00:24:43,285 --> 00:24:46,087
She saw a taxi driver
plow into a garbage can.
568
00:24:46,154 --> 00:24:48,189
The garbage can
became her daughter.
569
00:24:48,257 --> 00:24:50,691
The taxi driver
became evil.
570
00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:52,894
Suddenly everything
made sense.
571
00:24:52,961 --> 00:24:54,428
- Perfectly.
572
00:24:54,496 --> 00:24:56,097
- Is ms. Sands
competent to stand trial?
573
00:24:56,164 --> 00:24:59,300
- No, and if she ever is,
the verdict will be
574
00:24:59,368 --> 00:25:03,104
"not guilty by reason of
mental disease or defect."
575
00:25:03,171 --> 00:25:05,406
She needs to be locked up,
for everybody's good.
576
00:25:05,474 --> 00:25:08,142
- Call judge hiram
and the woman's attorney.
577
00:25:08,210 --> 00:25:10,745
Work out a plan
for institutionalization.
578
00:25:10,812 --> 00:25:12,380
Thank you, doctor.
579
00:25:13,782 --> 00:25:16,017
- I'll book some time
in the grand jury.
580
00:25:16,084 --> 00:25:17,818
- What for?
The woman's insane.
581
00:25:17,886 --> 00:25:21,789
- Not for her. Did you see
the file on flashposse.Net?
582
00:25:21,857 --> 00:25:23,190
- That place
on the world wide web?
583
00:25:23,258 --> 00:25:25,293
- Actually, they don't
call it that anymore.
584
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:27,962
- Excuse me, should I have said
"wireless telegraph"?
585
00:25:28,030 --> 00:25:32,033
- Flashposse whipped up a frenzy
against Sid Maxwell.
586
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:33,968
It was a virtual Lynch mob.
587
00:25:34,036 --> 00:25:37,772
- A Lynch mob sitting
at computers, typing things?
588
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:39,774
- Yeah, things like
"this guy ought to be killed"
589
00:25:39,841 --> 00:25:41,475
And "here's how to get
into his apartment."
590
00:25:41,543 --> 00:25:43,477
All delivered into the hands
of a crazy woman.
591
00:25:43,545 --> 00:25:44,679
- "a person
is guilty of murder
592
00:25:44,746 --> 00:25:46,547
"when they recklessly
engage in conduct
593
00:25:46,615 --> 00:25:49,183
"which creates a grave risk
of death to another person,
594
00:25:49,251 --> 00:25:52,119
And thereby causes
the death of another person."
595
00:25:52,187 --> 00:25:54,188
- I know the law.
- The shoe fits, Jack.
596
00:25:54,256 --> 00:25:57,625
Kerry sands was the bullet;
the website was the gun.
597
00:25:57,693 --> 00:26:00,027
- You really
want to do this?
598
00:26:00,095 --> 00:26:03,197
You'll be pushing the limits,
trying to make new law.
599
00:26:03,265 --> 00:26:05,533
- Like you did
with gun manufacturers
600
00:26:05,601 --> 00:26:10,404
And justice department
torture memo writers?
601
00:26:10,472 --> 00:26:12,573
- So these
flashposse people,
602
00:26:12,641 --> 00:26:15,343
Whom exactly are you
planning to indict?
603
00:26:15,410 --> 00:26:17,578
- All of them.
604
00:26:22,184 --> 00:26:25,820
- All of these people are
parties to this motion?
605
00:26:25,888 --> 00:26:27,188
- Not by choice,
your honor.
606
00:26:27,256 --> 00:26:28,556
For some strange reason,
the district attorney
607
00:26:28,624 --> 00:26:30,658
Has chosen to indict
half of New York city
608
00:26:30,726 --> 00:26:32,126
For the murder
of Sid Maxwell.
609
00:26:32,194 --> 00:26:33,794
- Only because they all
helped kill him.
610
00:26:33,862 --> 00:26:35,229
- It's preposterous.
611
00:26:35,297 --> 00:26:37,498
A schizophrenic named Kerry
sands murdered Sid Maxwell,
612
00:26:37,566 --> 00:26:38,933
As the state
freely acknowledges.
613
00:26:39,001 --> 00:26:40,368
These people did nothing
but post comments
614
00:26:40,435 --> 00:26:42,303
On a website that ms. Sands
occasionally visited.
615
00:26:42,371 --> 00:26:43,938
- Is that true,
Mr. Cutter?
616
00:26:44,006 --> 00:26:46,474
- "post comments"
is an understatement.
617
00:26:46,541 --> 00:26:48,609
They encouraged ms. Sands
618
00:26:48,677 --> 00:26:51,078
To commit violence
against Mr. Maxwell.
619
00:26:51,146 --> 00:26:53,381
- If I yell "kill the umpire"
and some psychotic does it,
620
00:26:53,448 --> 00:26:54,482
I'm not guilty of murder.
621
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:56,450
- The website
went beyond exhortations
622
00:26:56,518 --> 00:26:57,952
To kill Mr. Maxwell.
623
00:26:58,020 --> 00:27:00,421
It gave instructions
on how to do it.
624
00:27:00,489 --> 00:27:04,592
Some of its members took actions
that enabled ms. Sands
625
00:27:04,660 --> 00:27:07,495
To enter and leave
his apartment undetected.
626
00:27:07,562 --> 00:27:09,697
- What are
we talking about here,
627
00:27:09,765 --> 00:27:11,165
Exhortations or actions?
628
00:27:11,233 --> 00:27:14,502
- In this case, your honor,
it's a pretty fine line.
629
00:27:14,569 --> 00:27:16,270
- Not to me.
630
00:27:16,338 --> 00:27:19,173
Any comment about Mr. Maxwell,
even negative ones,
631
00:27:19,241 --> 00:27:20,942
Are protected speech
and may not be used
632
00:27:21,009 --> 00:27:23,210
In any way
in your prosecution.
633
00:27:23,278 --> 00:27:25,279
- There is
the first amendment exception
634
00:27:25,347 --> 00:27:27,848
About shouting "fire"
in a crowded theater.
635
00:27:27,916 --> 00:27:30,851
- Were any of these people
in physical proximity
636
00:27:30,919 --> 00:27:32,386
To ms. Sands
or the victim?
637
00:27:32,454 --> 00:27:34,221
- No.
638
00:27:34,289 --> 00:27:35,890
- Then the theater
wasn't crowded.
639
00:27:35,958 --> 00:27:38,559
You are free to proceed
in accordance with my ruling,
640
00:27:38,627 --> 00:27:40,928
If you still have a case.
641
00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:48,335
- Do we?
- We'd better.
642
00:27:48,403 --> 00:27:51,238
If we don't stop them now,
who's next?
643
00:27:56,777 --> 00:27:58,511
- You're lucky the judge didn't
throw your case out entirely.
644
00:27:58,579 --> 00:28:00,146
- She's living
in the 20th century.
645
00:28:00,214 --> 00:28:02,816
Words on the internet
have consequences.
646
00:28:02,883 --> 00:28:05,585
- Actually, she's living
in the 18th century,
647
00:28:05,653 --> 00:28:07,120
When the bill of rights
was written,
648
00:28:07,188 --> 00:28:09,222
Which, on balance,
is a good thing.
649
00:28:09,290 --> 00:28:11,391
- Well, if it weren't for what
people on that website
650
00:28:11,459 --> 00:28:12,692
Said and did,
651
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,428
Kerry sands would have never
murdered Sid Maxwell.
652
00:28:15,496 --> 00:28:17,697
- Yes, but now you'll have to
forget about the "said."
653
00:28:17,765 --> 00:28:20,266
- I'm dropping the charges
against the cheerleaders,
654
00:28:20,334 --> 00:28:22,802
But I'm still moving against
the guy who ran the site
655
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:25,405
And the people who sent out
the photos and the door Code.
656
00:28:25,473 --> 00:28:28,108
- They'll say they were only
encouraging people
657
00:28:28,175 --> 00:28:29,876
To send Maxwell a message,
658
00:28:29,944 --> 00:28:32,112
That they never intended
for him to be killed.
659
00:28:32,179 --> 00:28:35,248
- They were dealing
with a crazy woman.
660
00:28:35,316 --> 00:28:37,917
They didn't have to intend
for her to kill him.
661
00:28:37,985 --> 00:28:39,853
If they
recklessly disregarded
662
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,957
The likelihood that it
would happen, they're guilty.
663
00:28:44,024 --> 00:28:46,126
- Good luck.
664
00:28:49,897 --> 00:28:52,732
- "thank you for
sharing the information
665
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,702
About this accomplice
of the devil."
666
00:28:55,769 --> 00:28:58,771
That was one of the messages
posted by Kerry sands
667
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:01,641
On the Sid Maxwell section
of the website.
668
00:29:01,709 --> 00:29:03,276
- And how many messages
669
00:29:03,344 --> 00:29:05,745
Did ms. Sands post there
altogether?
670
00:29:05,813 --> 00:29:07,347
- More than 400.
671
00:29:07,414 --> 00:29:09,883
- And who posted
the second largest amount
672
00:29:09,950 --> 00:29:11,151
Of messages there?
673
00:29:11,218 --> 00:29:13,486
- Someone with
the screen name kewpie-doll.
674
00:29:13,554 --> 00:29:15,455
She posted 22.
675
00:29:15,523 --> 00:29:19,125
- 22 versus 400.
676
00:29:19,193 --> 00:29:23,263
Now did ms. Sands' messages
stand out in any other way?
677
00:29:23,330 --> 00:29:25,131
- No one else
mentioned Satan.
678
00:29:25,199 --> 00:29:28,301
No one else mentioned
that god's angels
679
00:29:28,369 --> 00:29:31,037
Would take vengeance
on Mr. Maxwell
680
00:29:31,105 --> 00:29:34,207
And dance
in his evil blood.
681
00:29:34,275 --> 00:29:36,643
- Would you characterize
her messages as sane?
682
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:39,012
- Objection.
The witness is a psychiatrist.
683
00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:40,180
Her judgment isn't the same
684
00:29:40,247 --> 00:29:41,581
As that of a layperson
reading those messages.
685
00:29:41,649 --> 00:29:43,616
- I'll sustain that.
686
00:29:43,684 --> 00:29:48,588
- Dr. Olivet, please read some
more of ms. Sands' postings.
687
00:29:48,656 --> 00:29:50,590
- "god's angels
will sing in heaven
688
00:29:50,658 --> 00:29:53,193
"when this man gets
his just reward.
689
00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:55,728
"death shall be answered
with death,
690
00:29:55,796 --> 00:29:57,997
The lord commands us."
691
00:29:58,065 --> 00:30:03,203
- "death shall be answered
with death."
692
00:30:06,507 --> 00:30:07,974
- Pursuant
to a search warrant,
693
00:30:08,042 --> 00:30:11,244
We seized a computer server
from the residence of Mr. Leary
694
00:30:11,312 --> 00:30:13,613
And turned it over
to our computer crimes squad.
695
00:30:13,681 --> 00:30:15,949
- And what did that squad
determine?
696
00:30:16,016 --> 00:30:18,151
- That Mr. Keegan
had hacked into
697
00:30:18,219 --> 00:30:20,019
And manipulated
the security cameras
698
00:30:20,087 --> 00:30:21,721
At Mr. Maxwell's apartment
building,
699
00:30:21,789 --> 00:30:25,024
And Mr. Mason cracked
and posted the Code
700
00:30:25,092 --> 00:30:27,327
To the front door
of his building,
701
00:30:27,394 --> 00:30:30,230
While ms. Sands obtained that
information from the website
702
00:30:30,297 --> 00:30:32,799
Less than an hour before
she murdered Mr. Maxwell.
703
00:30:32,866 --> 00:30:34,167
- Was there any sign
704
00:30:34,235 --> 00:30:37,170
The defendants attempted to
limit ms. Sands' access
705
00:30:37,238 --> 00:30:38,838
To that kind of information
706
00:30:38,906 --> 00:30:43,076
After they saw her hundreds
of messages on the website
707
00:30:43,143 --> 00:30:46,212
About the devil and angels
708
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,147
And death
and doom and blood?
709
00:30:48,215 --> 00:30:49,215
- No.
710
00:30:49,283 --> 00:30:51,317
In fact,
Mr. Leary made a point
711
00:30:51,385 --> 00:30:53,386
Of sending private e-mails
to ms. Sands,
712
00:30:53,454 --> 00:30:56,089
Alerting her whenever
new information was posted.
713
00:30:56,156 --> 00:30:58,424
- Really?
714
00:30:58,492 --> 00:31:00,026
To your knowledge,
detective,
715
00:31:00,094 --> 00:31:03,396
Was Mr. Leary aware of
ms. Sands' delusional condition?
716
00:31:03,464 --> 00:31:04,397
- Yes.
717
00:31:04,465 --> 00:31:06,432
When we executed
the warrant,
718
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:09,836
I asked him if he knew
ms. Sands, and he said,
719
00:31:09,903 --> 00:31:14,407
"the lady whose kid wasn't
killed by a taxi? Yeah."
720
00:31:14,475 --> 00:31:17,610
- So he knew
she was delusional?
721
00:31:17,678 --> 00:31:20,280
- That's what he said,
yes.
722
00:31:20,347 --> 00:31:22,382
- Thank you.
723
00:31:26,854 --> 00:31:28,755
- You don't like
Mr. Leary, do you?
724
00:31:28,822 --> 00:31:32,258
- I don't like him
or not like him.
725
00:31:32,326 --> 00:31:34,294
- But when he objected to your
investigation of his website,
726
00:31:34,361 --> 00:31:35,895
Didn't he organize people
to call you
727
00:31:35,963 --> 00:31:39,999
And accuse you
of being fat and a Nazi?
728
00:31:40,067 --> 00:31:42,168
- Those people never said
who told them to call.
729
00:31:42,236 --> 00:31:43,670
- Oh, so you didn't know
that your phone number
730
00:31:43,737 --> 00:31:45,305
Was listed on Mr. Leary's
website?
731
00:31:45,372 --> 00:31:47,240
- I knew.
732
00:31:47,308 --> 00:31:49,709
- When you served the warrant
for his computers,
733
00:31:49,777 --> 00:31:51,644
Didn't you complain that
he had been harassing you?
734
00:31:51,712 --> 00:31:53,479
- I might have
mentioned that.
735
00:31:53,547 --> 00:31:55,548
- Did you or didn't you
accuse him of harassing you?
736
00:31:55,616 --> 00:31:57,750
- I did.
And he was.
737
00:31:57,818 --> 00:31:59,686
- So now you're telling us
that this man,
738
00:31:59,753 --> 00:32:02,855
Who was harassing you,
told you and only you
739
00:32:02,923 --> 00:32:05,258
That he knew that
ms. Sands was delusional.
740
00:32:05,326 --> 00:32:07,160
- Yes.
741
00:32:07,227 --> 00:32:08,728
- Aren't you making that up
'cause it makes him look
742
00:32:08,796 --> 00:32:10,029
Like he was
guilty of something?
743
00:32:10,097 --> 00:32:11,364
- No.
744
00:32:11,432 --> 00:32:12,865
- 'cause you want
to get back at the man
745
00:32:12,933 --> 00:32:14,067
Who was harassing you?
746
00:32:14,134 --> 00:32:15,268
- No.
747
00:32:15,336 --> 00:32:16,936
- You're not lying?
748
00:32:17,004 --> 00:32:17,937
- No.
749
00:32:18,005 --> 00:32:20,573
- Really?
750
00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:27,913
Detective Bernard, can you
tell us who's in this picture?
751
00:32:27,970 --> 00:32:29,871
I have a copy
for the district attorney.
752
00:32:41,351 --> 00:32:42,818
- Where did you get this?
753
00:32:42,885 --> 00:32:44,853
- Online, posted by
a classmate of yours
754
00:32:44,921 --> 00:32:46,021
From the police academy
755
00:32:46,089 --> 00:32:48,557
At some kind of
graduation celebration.
756
00:32:48,624 --> 00:32:49,725
That is you in the picture,
isn't it?
757
00:32:49,792 --> 00:32:51,293
- Objection.
What is the relevance of this?
758
00:32:51,361 --> 00:32:52,828
- It goes to the credibility
of this witness,
759
00:32:52,895 --> 00:32:54,363
Which will become apparent
very soon.
760
00:32:54,430 --> 00:32:55,697
- It had better.
761
00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:57,265
Proceed.
762
00:32:57,333 --> 00:32:58,500
- Thank you.
763
00:32:58,568 --> 00:33:02,504
Detective, who is
the young woman in the picture?
764
00:33:02,572 --> 00:33:04,740
- Her name is Rosemary.
765
00:33:04,807 --> 00:33:06,708
- Rosemary Franklin.
Is that correct?
766
00:33:06,776 --> 00:33:08,310
- Yes.
767
00:33:08,378 --> 00:33:11,246
- Did you and she
have a child together?
768
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,987
- Yes.
769
00:33:19,055 --> 00:33:22,357
- And did you sign a child
support agreement with her
770
00:33:22,425 --> 00:33:23,625
Before the baby was born?
771
00:33:23,693 --> 00:33:25,494
- Well, you know everything.
Why ask me?
772
00:33:25,561 --> 00:33:27,162
- Your honor.
773
00:33:32,034 --> 00:33:33,402
- Yes.
774
00:33:33,469 --> 00:33:36,338
- Did you sign an agreement
promising to pay ms. Franklin
775
00:33:36,406 --> 00:33:39,341
$500 a month
to support that child?
776
00:33:39,409 --> 00:33:41,710
And did you fail to send
that money three times
777
00:33:41,778 --> 00:33:42,744
In the first six months?
778
00:33:42,812 --> 00:33:44,913
- There was a question
about paternity.
779
00:33:44,981 --> 00:33:47,349
- Did you promise to pay
and then fail to do so?
780
00:33:51,020 --> 00:33:52,387
- If you lied
to the mother of your child
781
00:33:52,455 --> 00:33:54,689
About supporting your son,
782
00:33:54,757 --> 00:33:57,459
Why should we believe anything
you say to us now?
783
00:34:05,563 --> 00:34:07,331
- You couldn't do something
to stop that?
784
00:34:07,398 --> 00:34:09,366
- No. No, I couldn't.
- Hey, you have a kid?
785
00:34:09,434 --> 00:34:11,535
- Look, I'd just finished
the academy, all right?
786
00:34:11,603 --> 00:34:12,736
I busted loose a little.
787
00:34:12,804 --> 00:34:14,271
There were some cop groupies
at a bar.
788
00:34:14,339 --> 00:34:16,840
Once the blood test came back,
I paid every month.
789
00:34:16,908 --> 00:34:18,976
- Look, we'll bring that out
on redirect.
790
00:34:19,043 --> 00:34:20,077
We have to recoup.
791
00:34:20,144 --> 00:34:22,846
- Look, I don't want to
talk about it!
792
00:34:22,914 --> 00:34:26,116
Hey. Hey!
- B!
793
00:34:26,184 --> 00:34:28,318
- How much trash did your people
have to sort through
794
00:34:28,386 --> 00:34:29,453
To dig this up?
795
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,521
- The photo, the agreement,
the violations,
796
00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:33,190
It's all on the internet.
You just gotta know how to look.
797
00:34:33,257 --> 00:34:35,225
- Yeah, so this is how
you defend yourself, huh?
798
00:34:35,293 --> 00:34:36,727
Dragging people
through the mud?
799
00:34:36,794 --> 00:34:38,962
He's a ten-year-old boy.
- All right, come on, b.
800
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:40,631
- No, no, no, no, no, no!
You want to play dirty, huh?
801
00:34:40,698 --> 00:34:42,232
Huh?
You want to get personal?
802
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:43,533
- Detective!
803
00:34:56,314 --> 00:34:58,582
- That didn't help.
- What do you expect?
804
00:34:58,650 --> 00:35:00,851
- That a thin-skinned cop
doesn't destroy my case.
805
00:35:00,918 --> 00:35:01,852
- Mike.
806
00:35:01,919 --> 00:35:03,186
- Look, do you realize
807
00:35:03,254 --> 00:35:05,322
How much his testimony
is worth right now?
808
00:35:05,390 --> 00:35:06,890
- All right, listen.
809
00:35:06,958 --> 00:35:09,359
Leary told him he knew about
Kerry sands and her daughter.
810
00:35:09,427 --> 00:35:10,894
- Yes, but who's
going to believe it?
811
00:35:10,962 --> 00:35:12,362
- I do.
You do.
812
00:35:12,430 --> 00:35:13,764
All we have to do
is find out
813
00:35:13,831 --> 00:35:15,632
How Leary
knew the woman is nuts.
814
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:17,367
We get that into evidence,
it won't matter
815
00:35:17,435 --> 00:35:18,702
What he did or didn't say
to Bernard.
816
00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:20,804
- Okay, okay, but Leary's
not going to tell us,
817
00:35:20,872 --> 00:35:22,906
And Kerry sands
is in cuckoo-land,
818
00:35:22,974 --> 00:35:24,241
So how are we
going to find out?
819
00:35:24,308 --> 00:35:26,510
- There's got to be
a record somewhere--
820
00:35:26,577 --> 00:35:28,679
A meeting, a conversation,
an e-mail.
821
00:35:28,746 --> 00:35:32,549
- Something somewhere.
Pretty big haystack.
822
00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:38,255
- He was texting
on the fdr drive
823
00:35:38,322 --> 00:35:40,724
And almost ran a car with
three kids in it off the road.
824
00:35:40,792 --> 00:35:42,793
One of our members
analyzed the photo
825
00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:46,196
And determined it was going
73 miles per hour at the time.
826
00:35:46,264 --> 00:35:48,765
Sid Maxwell
deserved to be exposed.
827
00:35:48,833 --> 00:35:52,069
The point was to get him
to change his ways
828
00:35:52,136 --> 00:35:53,303
Before he killed someone.
829
00:35:53,371 --> 00:35:55,405
- But not to kill him?
830
00:35:55,473 --> 00:35:57,574
- We're not murderers.
831
00:35:57,642 --> 00:35:59,743
We spend our days
in front of computers.
832
00:35:59,811 --> 00:36:02,112
We're just a bunch of
well-meaning nerds
833
00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:03,814
Who want to make this city
a better place.
834
00:36:03,881 --> 00:36:05,882
- Thank you.
835
00:36:07,418 --> 00:36:11,455
- So you and your colleagues
don't get out much?
836
00:36:11,522 --> 00:36:14,191
Then why did you post
Mr. Maxwell's address
837
00:36:14,258 --> 00:36:15,459
On your site?
838
00:36:15,526 --> 00:36:17,828
- In case somebody
wanted to write him a letter.
839
00:36:17,895 --> 00:36:20,931
- And the Code
to his building's door?
840
00:36:20,998 --> 00:36:22,733
From your website, uh,
841
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,136
"in case anybody
wants to drop by
842
00:36:26,204 --> 00:36:28,605
And teach this jerk
some manners."
843
00:36:28,673 --> 00:36:31,108
- Some people
feel very strongly
844
00:36:31,175 --> 00:36:33,310
About people
like Sid Maxwell.
845
00:36:33,377 --> 00:36:35,378
There was a woman in China
who crushed--
846
00:36:35,446 --> 00:36:37,147
- I know.
Crushed a kitten.
847
00:36:37,215 --> 00:36:40,951
So emotions run high?
- They can.
848
00:36:41,018 --> 00:36:42,619
Sometimes people
want to confront
849
00:36:42,687 --> 00:36:43,920
People like that in person.
850
00:36:43,988 --> 00:36:44,955
Sometimes
that's the only way
851
00:36:45,022 --> 00:36:46,890
People like that
get the message.
852
00:36:46,958 --> 00:36:49,159
- "people like that."
including Sid Maxwell?
853
00:36:49,227 --> 00:36:51,161
- Yes, but that
doesn't mean that I,
854
00:36:51,229 --> 00:36:53,096
Or anyone else
on flashposse.Net,
855
00:36:53,164 --> 00:36:54,631
Thought he'd be
physically harmed.
856
00:36:54,699 --> 00:36:56,666
- Not even by Kerry sands,
857
00:36:56,734 --> 00:37:00,103
Who posted 400 messages
858
00:37:00,171 --> 00:37:03,573
About revenge
and the devil and death?
859
00:37:03,641 --> 00:37:06,743
- Have you ever read
the internet, Mr. Cutter?
860
00:37:06,811 --> 00:37:10,814
It's full of ranting and raving
and exaggerated threats.
861
00:37:10,882 --> 00:37:13,717
Everyone says everyone else
should drop dead.
862
00:37:13,785 --> 00:37:16,486
It's just a place
for letting off steam.
863
00:37:16,554 --> 00:37:17,687
- So you thought
Kerry sands
864
00:37:17,755 --> 00:37:19,689
Was just letting off
harmless steam?
865
00:37:19,757 --> 00:37:21,324
- She and 50 million
other people.
866
00:37:21,392 --> 00:37:23,894
- Even though you knew
she was living
867
00:37:23,961 --> 00:37:25,996
In the midst
of a psychotic delusion.
868
00:37:26,063 --> 00:37:27,197
- I didn't know that.
869
00:37:27,265 --> 00:37:29,399
- You told
detective Bernard.
870
00:37:29,467 --> 00:37:30,934
- I never told him that.
871
00:37:31,002 --> 00:37:32,903
Couldn't have.
I didn't know it.
872
00:37:40,478 --> 00:37:42,779
- It's from lupo.
873
00:37:47,518 --> 00:37:51,354
- Mr. Leary,
874
00:37:51,422 --> 00:37:54,224
Were you with Kerry sands
last August 20th
875
00:37:54,292 --> 00:37:56,660
When she physically assaulted
a cabdriver
876
00:37:56,727 --> 00:38:01,364
Who she accused of being
the evil spawn of Satan?
877
00:38:01,432 --> 00:38:03,233
- Uh, your honor,
this is the first we've heard
878
00:38:03,301 --> 00:38:04,434
Of any such
alleged incident.
879
00:38:04,502 --> 00:38:05,969
If the people have
some supposed evidence,
880
00:38:06,037 --> 00:38:07,237
I'd like to see it.
881
00:38:07,305 --> 00:38:09,573
- New information has just
come to our attention.
882
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,541
- Then share it
with the defense.
883
00:38:11,609 --> 00:38:13,343
We'll recess
until tomorrow.
884
00:38:13,411 --> 00:38:14,911
[gavel bangs]
885
00:38:18,349 --> 00:38:19,749
- Now we knew Kerry sands
886
00:38:19,817 --> 00:38:21,518
Had a thing for cabdrivers,
right?
887
00:38:21,586 --> 00:38:23,253
Well, there are cabs around
all the time,
888
00:38:23,321 --> 00:38:25,322
So I figured she might have had
some interaction.
889
00:38:25,389 --> 00:38:27,457
It was just a matter
of checking drivers' logs.
890
00:38:27,525 --> 00:38:29,893
- There are 13,000 taxis
in New York city.
891
00:38:29,961 --> 00:38:31,862
- All right, so it was kind of
labor-intensive.
892
00:38:31,929 --> 00:38:33,296
Now, there were 209
893
00:38:33,364 --> 00:38:35,799
That reported violent behavior
by women in the last year.
894
00:38:35,867 --> 00:38:37,367
102 of those
were on the street
895
00:38:37,435 --> 00:38:39,836
In range of atm
or other security cameras.
896
00:38:39,904 --> 00:38:42,072
- That's hundreds of cameras,
all on different systems.
897
00:38:42,139 --> 00:38:46,676
- Right, so here's
a camera still of Kerry sands
898
00:38:46,744 --> 00:38:49,312
Assaulting a driver
on 42nd street.
899
00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:50,814
I talked to the driver.
900
00:38:50,882 --> 00:38:51,948
He said she was screaming
901
00:38:52,016 --> 00:38:54,251
That the devil told him
to murder her daughter.
902
00:38:54,318 --> 00:38:56,786
- And to find him,
you searched 13,000 taxi logs
903
00:38:56,854 --> 00:38:59,756
And then every security camera
near 209 incidents?
904
00:38:59,824 --> 00:39:01,191
- Sort of.
905
00:39:01,259 --> 00:39:03,260
The driver also told me there
was a man with Kerry sands.
906
00:39:03,327 --> 00:39:05,862
He walked away after she
started getting violent.
907
00:39:05,930 --> 00:39:06,930
This is him, right here.
908
00:39:06,998 --> 00:39:08,999
- All I can see
is the back of his head.
909
00:39:09,066 --> 00:39:11,601
- You see the reflection
in the store window there?
910
00:39:11,669 --> 00:39:15,805
With the right software,
boom.
911
00:39:15,873 --> 00:39:17,874
- Leary.
912
00:39:17,942 --> 00:39:22,212
- Did you have a subpoena
for the cameras
913
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,446
For any of this?
914
00:39:23,514 --> 00:39:25,482
- I'm not the one
who got 'em.
915
00:39:25,549 --> 00:39:28,285
This took a few thousand people
working around the clock.
916
00:39:28,352 --> 00:39:30,153
- The entire nypd?
917
00:39:30,221 --> 00:39:33,356
- Chinese people.
A "human flesh search engine."
918
00:39:33,424 --> 00:39:35,425
I have a friend
in the shanghai p.D.
919
00:39:35,493 --> 00:39:36,459
From my days in intel.
920
00:39:36,527 --> 00:39:38,561
I told him
a cop needed a hand.
921
00:39:38,629 --> 00:39:40,664
- Fire with fire.
922
00:39:40,731 --> 00:39:43,300
Our internet posse
against Leary's.
923
00:39:43,367 --> 00:39:46,836
- And none of these came
from Leary's home or office.
924
00:39:46,904 --> 00:39:48,471
- It's admissible.
925
00:39:52,843 --> 00:39:54,978
- Mr. Leary,
can you tell us
926
00:39:55,046 --> 00:39:56,313
What's happening
in this picture?
927
00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:58,648
- Your honor,
may we approach?
928
00:40:03,254 --> 00:40:04,621
- We're still not satisfied
929
00:40:04,689 --> 00:40:06,156
As to the origin
of this material.
930
00:40:06,223 --> 00:40:07,157
- Why, it came from
a lamppost security camera.
931
00:40:07,224 --> 00:40:08,591
- Where'd the state get it?
932
00:40:08,659 --> 00:40:09,592
There's no record
of any process being served.
933
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:10,727
- It doesn't matter.
934
00:40:10,795 --> 00:40:12,696
Mr. Leary has
no expectation of privacy
935
00:40:12,763 --> 00:40:13,697
In the middle
of 42nd street.
936
00:40:13,764 --> 00:40:15,198
- Even if he didn't,
937
00:40:15,266 --> 00:40:17,567
There's no context to explain
what's happening here.
938
00:40:17,635 --> 00:40:20,537
- I'll ask him to explain,
and if he can't remember,
939
00:40:20,604 --> 00:40:22,772
Then we'll bring in
the taxi driver.
940
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,874
- That works,
Mr. Margolis.
941
00:40:24,942 --> 00:40:28,712
Mr. Cutter,
you may proceed.
942
00:40:28,779 --> 00:40:31,748
- Now you told us yesterday,
Mr. Leary,
943
00:40:31,816 --> 00:40:33,917
That you had no idea
944
00:40:33,985 --> 00:40:39,122
Kerry sands was violent
or delusional.
945
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:42,659
Doesn't this picture show us
that you did know?
946
00:40:42,727 --> 00:40:46,162
- That's arguable.
947
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:50,934
- It was a crazy,
violent outburst
948
00:40:51,002 --> 00:40:52,702
Right in front
of your face.
949
00:40:52,770 --> 00:40:58,541
But you still kept goading her
to go after Sid Maxwell.
950
00:40:58,609 --> 00:40:59,943
- [exhales]
951
00:41:04,715 --> 00:41:06,883
[sighs]
952
00:41:08,753 --> 00:41:12,222
I never told her
to kill anybody.
953
00:41:12,289 --> 00:41:15,225
- The woman was
dangerously out of control.
954
00:41:15,292 --> 00:41:16,893
What did you expect?
955
00:41:16,961 --> 00:41:20,096
What did you
reasonably expect?
956
00:41:28,506 --> 00:41:31,775
- Yeah. All right.
957
00:41:31,842 --> 00:41:32,942
That was cutter.
958
00:41:33,010 --> 00:41:34,644
Leary and the others
took pleas.
959
00:41:34,712 --> 00:41:37,480
They're going away
for manslaughter.
960
00:41:37,548 --> 00:41:38,982
- Good.
961
00:41:39,050 --> 00:41:41,651
- Thank you.
[clears throat]
962
00:41:46,757 --> 00:41:48,391
You know,
963
00:41:48,459 --> 00:41:51,694
If we'd have known...
964
00:41:51,762 --> 00:41:53,496
I mean, I would have
965
00:41:53,564 --> 00:41:55,532
Put myself out there
as the target.
966
00:41:58,002 --> 00:42:00,804
- I never thought
they would dig that up.
967
00:42:03,607 --> 00:42:05,141
- How is the kid?
968
00:42:07,344 --> 00:42:09,813
- His mother and I...
969
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,583
She ended up marrying
her actual boyfriend.
970
00:42:13,651 --> 00:42:16,519
We both decided
that it would be better--
971
00:42:16,587 --> 00:42:19,122
Less confusing--
if I didn't see him.
972
00:42:19,172 --> 00:42:23,722
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