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- We got 39 families
looking for justice.
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- But when I get this case file,
it's got to be legit.
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- Hi, Tamra.
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Do you remember anything
about him?
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- He had a silver skull ring.
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- Dylan Oates, 22.
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- You know,
I work with a detective.
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You killed his daughter
in that fire.
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- Heard you had a suspect.
- He, uh, confessed.
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- To who?
- Me.
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- What did he say exactly?
- Do you want the case or not?
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[indistinct chatter]
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[camera shutters clicking]
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- What can you tell us
about him?
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- His name is Dylan Oates.
He's 22 years old.
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- We heard he confessed.
- No comment.
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- Why'd he do it, Mr. Stone?
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- Pyromaniacs don't need
a reason.
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- The fact is,
Mr. Oates has asserted
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his Fifth Amendment rights.
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I haven't spoken to him
as of yet.
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- But he's the guy?
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- Yes, he is.
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- Does he have an attorney?
- Is he from Chicago?
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- Mr. Stone,
does he have a record?
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[indistinct chatter]
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[camera shutters clicking]
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[pensive music]
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*
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- We don't usually
get to see you
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at a bond hearing, Mr. Stone.
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But this isn't
your garden-variety homicide.
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Where's your attorney, son?
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- I don't have one.
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Excuse me, Judge,
but this is just about
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whether or not
I get bail, right?
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- That is correct.
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- Then it doesn't really matter,
does it?
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I waive counsel.
- Hang him!
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- Burn him!
- You killed my boy!
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[indistinct shouting]
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[gavel bangs]
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- No bail it is.
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Next case.
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- Get him out of here!
- See you in hell!
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.
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- You don't want to know
how many cases
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with confessions
I've seen crash and burn.
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- You may want to add this
to the pile.
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Voight says he confessed.
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- But you have your doubts.
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- I haven't heard
from Dawson yet,
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but Olinsky's kid died
in the fire.
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- Hmm. Good morning.
- But a girl did ID the suspect.
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- She saw him set the fire?
- Yes.
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- And she picked him
out of a lineup?
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- She's having trouble
with her vision.
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- But she described
his ring and his coat.
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He was wearing both
when he was arrested.
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- Why?
- Because he's a monster.
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- Someone kills 39 kids
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and injures
God knows how many more--
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you're damn right
he's a monster.
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The problem is
juries can't accept it.
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It's out of their comfort zone.
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But you give them
a big, fat, juicy "why,"
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and they'll crawl into
their beds, close their eyes,
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and drift off,
thinking they're actually safe.
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- I'll put Dawson and Nagel
on it.
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- Oh, and, Peter...
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Enormous tragedies
make career cases.
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You win this one,
it could make your career.
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But you lose,
it could destroy mine.
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- Hey.
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- Hey, man.
I'm so sorry.
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- Yeah. Yeah.
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- Hey...
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I loved Lexi.
We all did.
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- Domestic monitors.
Can you believe this crap?
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Like I'm gonna hurt my own kid.
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I'm sorry for your loss, Al.
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- [softly] Thanks.
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Walk with me
for a second.
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You know, the thing is,
sometimes guys in your position
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might get hit
by a bout of ethics,
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and then there's some
pain-in-the-ass defense attorney
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crying coercion.
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Okay, good.
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- Did he confess, Al?
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- That son of a bitch...
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he killed Lexi.
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[melancholy music]
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*
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- Jesus.
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- How bad am I, complaining
about my kid issues?
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I honestly don't know
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how he's gonna make it
through the day.
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- All I know is I couldn't.
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- So was that the sound
of the vice squeezing?
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- You want to ask me something,
go ahead.
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- On a good day,
a confession from your old crew
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smells a little hinky.
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With Olinsky's kid a victim--
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- I don't know, okay?
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I wasn't there,
so I didn't hear anything.
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- Hey, I'm a team player,
is all.
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I'd just like to know which team
I'm on before the game starts.
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[indistinct shouting]
- We need you to move back.
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- Uh-uh, back up.
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No comment.
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Come on.
- You hear her? Back up.
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- This is all a shock.
I'm sorry.
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James!
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I just can't get those
poor children out of my head.
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What you must think of us...
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Dylan couldn't have done this.
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- Why do you say that?
- We're good people.
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James, these people
are investigators
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from the State's Attorney's
office.
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- You can't talk to us.
We have rights.
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- Actually, you don't
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until someone accuses you
of something.
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- Yeah, we'll see about that.
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- Did Dylan go to the party
with anyone?
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- I don't really know
who his friends are.
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I doubt he would even
go to a rave.
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- When are these pricks
gonna leave us alone?
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- Unfortunately,
they have rights.
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- Why did you say
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that Dylan wouldn't go
to a rave, Mrs. Oates?
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- He kept to himself, mostly.
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His head was always
in his computer.
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Eight hours a day
wasn't enough for him.
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- He was a programmer?
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- Data processing--
whatever that is.
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[knock at door]
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- Hey.
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What'd you find?
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- He's snooty.
He's weird. He's shy.
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He'd "never go dancing."
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Nobody seems to know
a lot about him.
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But he spends
a lot of time online.
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- Unfortunately, none of that
is an element of murder.
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- Right.
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You don't have kids,
do you?
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- No.
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- I remember when I could hold
Diego in the palm of my hand.
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I'd look at him and think,
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"There's a surgeon,
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a one guard for the Bulls."
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I want to grab Olinsky...
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and tell him it's gonna be okay,
but it's not.
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It never will be.
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[sighs]
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The confession...
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I didn't actually hear it.
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[dramatic music]
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- Who did?
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- Voight and Olinsky.
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- [scoffs]
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You know, truth be told,
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I was waiting
for you to come to me.
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I just didn't expect
it would take you 24 hours.
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- Olinsky's daughter died
in that fire.
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I figured
maybe he's entitled--
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- To what? Revenge?
- Yeah.
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- One lie like this
can destroy my entire case.
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- Your case?
It's his kid.
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- Fine.
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- Albert Forest made a motion
to suppress the confession.
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*
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- Albert Forest is
representing Dylan?
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- Today's just brimming
with good news.
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- Excuse me.
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*
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[siren wailing]
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- Fancy seeing you here.
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- I knew a guy--
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he ate a hot dog a day,
lived to be 98.
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- I doubt
it was the hot dogs.
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- He swears it was.
I trust him.
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You should trust me.
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- We'll see.
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- Peter, let me do this.
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I got a right
to take the stand,
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tell my story,
whatever it is.
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- Having a right
and doing what is right
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are two
completely different things.
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For what it's worth, Hank,
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I'm truly sorry
for your loss.
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- It's your show,
Mr. Forest.
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- [sighs]
- That won't be necessary.
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The People will not oppose
Mr. Forest's motion
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to suppress the defendant's
confession to the police.
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[crowd murmuring]
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*
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- It's nice Mr. Stone recognizes
the weaknesses in his case.
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Perhaps he'd consider--
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- The People intend to proceed
to trial, Your Honor.
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- So be it.
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[gavel bangs]
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.
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- Peter, I found something odd.
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It was in with Forest's response
for discovery
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and the documents
his office sent over.
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- Looks like a list
of Internet articles
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about the Kimball Factory.
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It was probably sent to us
by mistake.
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- A big one. Look closer.
The one that's circled.
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- "Kimball Factory:
A Kiddie Sex Den"?
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- The article was posted
a few weeks ago
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on "The Anders Report."
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I printed it out.
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The Anders Website claims
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the factory was a haven
for pedophiles.
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They threw the raves
to attract underage teens.
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I spoke to a shrink,
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and apparently,
one of the possible consequences
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of child abuse is pyromania.
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[tense music]
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- You wanted a motive.
Now we have one.
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- I don't know.
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- Dylan Oates was a victim
of sexual abuse.
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He read the article,
it brought back memories,
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and he lost it.
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- [sighs]
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This could be considered
attorney work product.
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- What do you want me to do?
I can't unsee it.
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This is a good thing, Mark.
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At least we know
what Forest is thinking.
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- You'd be handing Forest
a sympathy defense
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on a silver planner
with that.
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- If he was going to assert
an affirmative defense,
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he would have done it already,
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and I would get to
cross-examine Dylan
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about every second
of that night,
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about every innocent person
that died because of him.
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The last thing Forest wants
is for the sympathy pendulum
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to swing back to me.
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- No. No, no, no, no.
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We've got 39
grieving families out there.
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This case
is too damned important
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to risk playing lawyer games.
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Now, you've got real facts
on your side.
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Use them.
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- We found the remains
of the incendiary device
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inside the warehouse.
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- What kind
of incendiary device?
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- It was a lightbulb
filled with gasoline
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and a mixture of quartz
and diatomaceous silica.
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It's kitty litter.
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- Sounds simple.
- It is.
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You can learn
everything you need to know
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just by going online.
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- What else did you find
in the warehouse?
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- We found metal wedges
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00:11:54,314 --> 00:11:56,950
that had been jammed into
the doorways of the warehouse.
259
00:11:56,984 --> 00:11:58,518
- What did that tell you?
260
00:11:58,551 --> 00:12:01,822
- Somebody didn't want
the people inside to get out.
261
00:12:05,993 --> 00:12:08,095
- Tell me about Barry Kimball.
262
00:12:08,128 --> 00:12:10,764
- He was the owner
of the factory that burned.
263
00:12:10,798 --> 00:12:14,401
- Was Mr. Kimball's factory
in violation of the Fire Code?
264
00:12:14,434 --> 00:12:16,136
- There weren't fire doors.
265
00:12:16,169 --> 00:12:17,771
And four years ago,
he was ordered
266
00:12:17,805 --> 00:12:19,439
to retrofit the wiring,
267
00:12:19,472 --> 00:12:22,209
and he ignored the order.
268
00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:24,812
- Did you speak to him
about these violations.
269
00:12:24,845 --> 00:12:26,847
- He came to the Firehouse
the day after the fire.
270
00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,982
I wasn't there,
but my crew spoke with him.
271
00:12:29,016 --> 00:12:31,018
- Right after Mr. Kimball
spoke with your crew,
272
00:12:31,051 --> 00:12:32,920
he went into the men's room,
and he shot himself,
273
00:12:32,953 --> 00:12:34,922
isn't that right?
274
00:12:34,955 --> 00:12:36,156
- Yes.
275
00:12:36,189 --> 00:12:37,190
- Is that because
he felt guilty?
276
00:12:37,224 --> 00:12:39,192
- Objection.
- Sustained.
277
00:12:39,226 --> 00:12:41,228
Mr. Forest.
278
00:12:47,434 --> 00:12:50,971
- I-I saw a guy drop a paper bag
on the floor.
279
00:12:51,004 --> 00:12:53,874
- What did he do
after he dropped the paper bag?
280
00:12:53,907 --> 00:12:56,109
- He stepped on it hard,
281
00:12:56,143 --> 00:12:58,545
and--and then he kicked it
under the couch.
282
00:12:58,578 --> 00:13:02,115
And then he just left.
I thought it was weird.
283
00:13:02,149 --> 00:13:05,018
- What's the next thing
you remember?
284
00:13:05,052 --> 00:13:07,254
- I looked to go see
what it was.
285
00:13:07,287 --> 00:13:10,157
And then there was this--
this flash of light.
286
00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:12,025
And then I went down.
287
00:13:12,059 --> 00:13:13,861
- Can you describe him?
288
00:13:13,894 --> 00:13:17,097
- He was 5'8",
blonde, blue eyes.
289
00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:19,066
- Could you describe
what he was wearing?
290
00:13:19,099 --> 00:13:22,035
- He was wearing a...
291
00:13:22,069 --> 00:13:26,539
a brown cargo jacket
with a ForeRange logo on it.
292
00:13:30,077 --> 00:13:32,012
- Was there anything else?
- Yeah, he was...
293
00:13:32,045 --> 00:13:35,282
he was wearing a ring.
294
00:13:35,315 --> 00:13:36,917
- Can you describe the ring?
295
00:13:36,950 --> 00:13:38,018
- It was silver.
296
00:13:38,051 --> 00:13:41,054
It was like
a skull made of silver.
297
00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:44,157
- Thank you.
298
00:13:46,526 --> 00:13:50,263
- Tamra, were you drinking
that night?
299
00:13:52,299 --> 00:13:54,234
- I had--
I had two beers.
300
00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:57,137
- Did you consume any drugs?
301
00:13:57,170 --> 00:14:00,207
[somber music]
302
00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,175
*
303
00:14:02,209 --> 00:14:05,545
You have to answer
the question, Tamra.
304
00:14:05,578 --> 00:14:08,248
- Yes.
- What kind of drugs?
305
00:14:08,281 --> 00:14:11,151
- I had a half tab of Molly.
306
00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:13,253
But I saw what I saw.
307
00:14:13,286 --> 00:14:16,123
- Was there music playing?
308
00:14:16,156 --> 00:14:18,225
- Yes.
- Any kind of light show?
309
00:14:18,258 --> 00:14:20,493
- They had--
they had strobe lights.
310
00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:22,963
- And how long
did you see this person,
311
00:14:22,996 --> 00:14:25,298
the one who stepped
on the paper bag?
312
00:14:25,332 --> 00:14:27,234
- Maybe three seconds.
313
00:14:27,267 --> 00:14:30,103
- So, in a crowded room,
after you'd been drinking
314
00:14:30,137 --> 00:14:32,672
and popping pills
with music pumping
315
00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:35,675
and lights pulsating,
you were really able
316
00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:39,679
to see and identify a ring
on the finger of a stranger?
317
00:14:39,712 --> 00:14:41,648
- [voice breaking]
I saw it...
318
00:14:41,681 --> 00:14:44,084
and his face.
319
00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:46,153
I'll never forget it.
320
00:14:46,186 --> 00:14:50,357
- But, unfortunately, you're not
able to identify my client
321
00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:52,259
as the man you saw that night,
are you?
322
00:14:52,292 --> 00:14:54,627
- No, I can't.
323
00:14:54,661 --> 00:14:57,264
I can't see anything
because of him.
324
00:14:57,297 --> 00:14:58,999
[crowd murmuring]
325
00:14:59,032 --> 00:15:01,268
*
326
00:15:01,301 --> 00:15:04,004
[sobs]
327
00:15:04,037 --> 00:15:06,673
*
328
00:15:06,706 --> 00:15:10,043
- We found metal wedges
in the defendant's apartment.
329
00:15:10,077 --> 00:15:12,279
- Were they manufactured
by Elliston Industries?
330
00:15:12,312 --> 00:15:16,183
- Yes. Stainless steel.
1 5/8-inch slot width.
331
00:15:16,216 --> 00:15:17,717
- Like this?
332
00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:18,851
- Exactly.
333
00:15:18,885 --> 00:15:21,388
- Can you describe the wedges
shoved under the door
334
00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:23,690
at the factory
where the rave took place?
335
00:15:23,723 --> 00:15:27,194
- Stainless steel,
1 5/8-inch slot width,
336
00:15:27,227 --> 00:15:29,963
manufactured
by Elliston Industries.
337
00:15:29,997 --> 00:15:32,265
- Like this?
- Yes, sir.
338
00:15:36,436 --> 00:15:39,739
- People use these wedges
to hold doors open,
339
00:15:39,772 --> 00:15:41,108
isn't that right?
340
00:15:41,141 --> 00:15:43,176
- Or closed,
as the case may be.
341
00:15:43,210 --> 00:15:45,045
- Say you wanted to keep
your terrace door open
342
00:15:45,078 --> 00:15:47,347
so you could enjoy the summer
breeze while you ate dinner,
343
00:15:47,380 --> 00:15:49,016
you'd use one?
344
00:15:49,049 --> 00:15:53,386
- Well, I don't have a terrace,
so I wouldn't know.
345
00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:55,388
- One of the victims
in this case
346
00:15:55,422 --> 00:15:58,058
is the daughter
of one of your colleagues,
347
00:15:58,091 --> 00:16:00,060
isn't that right?
- Alvin Olinsky.
348
00:16:00,093 --> 00:16:02,395
His daughter Lexi was killed
by the fire.
349
00:16:02,429 --> 00:16:05,698
- And getting someone,
anyone, convicted
350
00:16:05,732 --> 00:16:08,235
for what happened
to Detective Olinsky's daughter
351
00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:10,670
would bring him some sort
of closure, wouldn't it?
352
00:16:10,703 --> 00:16:13,240
- Objection.
- Withdrawn.
353
00:16:13,273 --> 00:16:18,311
I show you what is marked
Defense Exhibit 12.
354
00:16:18,345 --> 00:16:21,214
You recognize that?
355
00:16:21,248 --> 00:16:23,083
- It's my arrest report.
356
00:16:23,116 --> 00:16:26,719
- Would you read
the highlighted part?
357
00:16:26,753 --> 00:16:29,722
- "After advising suspect
of his Miranda rights,
358
00:16:29,756 --> 00:16:31,291
"he stated of his own free will,
359
00:16:31,324 --> 00:16:34,394
'It was me, okay?
I started the damn fire.'"
360
00:16:36,129 --> 00:16:37,697
- It's curious, don't you think,
361
00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:41,201
that the People haven't entered
that statement into evidence?
362
00:16:41,234 --> 00:16:43,270
- Objection!
- I'm curious, too, Mr. Stone.
363
00:16:43,303 --> 00:16:44,704
Overruled.
364
00:16:44,737 --> 00:16:47,707
- Why haven't the People entered
Mr. Oates' statement
365
00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:50,210
into evidence, Detective?
- You'd have to ask the People.
366
00:16:50,243 --> 00:16:52,779
- Could it be
that they didn't trust you?
367
00:16:52,812 --> 00:16:54,781
And if the Assistant State's
Attorney doesn't trust you
368
00:16:54,814 --> 00:16:56,383
with something as simple
as a confession,
369
00:16:56,416 --> 00:16:59,119
why should we trust
anything you say now?
370
00:17:03,156 --> 00:17:04,424
Exactly.
371
00:17:15,202 --> 00:17:15,335
.
372
00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:16,369
- In person, Forest is
a lot better than his book.
373
00:17:16,969 --> 00:17:18,805
We read it in law school.
374
00:17:18,838 --> 00:17:21,274
- The Third Edition?
- Thank you.
375
00:17:21,308 --> 00:17:23,710
No, the Fifth.
376
00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:28,648
Could you do it...
377
00:17:28,681 --> 00:17:31,151
defend someone
like Dylan Oates?
378
00:17:31,184 --> 00:17:33,620
- I won't ever have to make
that decision.
379
00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:36,656
- So you are a lifer?
380
00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:39,659
- I was thrilled when I was
drafted by the Cubs, Anna...
381
00:17:39,692 --> 00:17:42,395
back when they were
the loveable losers.
382
00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:45,198
An underdog always needs
someone on his side.
383
00:17:45,232 --> 00:17:47,834
- Representing the State doesn't
exactly make you the underdog.
384
00:17:47,867 --> 00:17:48,768
- When I'm in that courtroom,
385
00:17:48,801 --> 00:17:51,704
I'm not thinking
about the State of Illinois.
386
00:17:51,738 --> 00:17:55,342
I'm thinking
about the victims.
387
00:18:00,913 --> 00:18:04,717
And right now
I am letting 39 of them down.
388
00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:07,887
Forest is well on his way to
establishing reasonable doubt.
389
00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,589
I don't have a choice.
390
00:18:09,622 --> 00:18:11,758
I can't win this
without offering a motive.
391
00:18:11,791 --> 00:18:13,860
- If you put Anders on the stand
to testify
392
00:18:13,893 --> 00:18:17,197
about the raves being used
for underage sex,
393
00:18:17,230 --> 00:18:19,199
Forest will go ballistic.
394
00:18:19,232 --> 00:18:20,833
- Let him.
395
00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:27,907
Ah, Mr. Anders, thank you
for coming in on a Saturday.
396
00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:29,209
This won't take long.
397
00:18:29,242 --> 00:18:30,677
I'm sure you don't need
much prep.
398
00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:34,347
- Uh, I don't think
I'll need any...
399
00:18:34,381 --> 00:18:37,417
mainly 'cause
I'm not gonna testify.
400
00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:38,885
- You have a subpoena
in your hand.
401
00:18:38,918 --> 00:18:42,355
- And the First Amendment
and the shield law at my back.
402
00:18:42,389 --> 00:18:44,757
I'm a journalist,
after all.
403
00:18:44,791 --> 00:18:46,326
- I don't know what it is
you do exactly,
404
00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,895
but I wouldn't call it
journalism.
405
00:18:48,928 --> 00:18:52,232
- Be that as it may,
I'm not getting on the stand.
406
00:18:52,265 --> 00:18:54,167
- We could have you arrested
for contempt.
407
00:18:54,201 --> 00:18:58,405
- Speaking of which,
I was just thinking recently
408
00:18:58,438 --> 00:19:01,774
of a weekend you spent
at the Huntington Hotel
409
00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:03,743
in Grand Beach.
410
00:19:03,776 --> 00:19:05,778
When was that...
411
00:19:05,812 --> 00:19:07,414
four years ago?
412
00:19:07,447 --> 00:19:10,217
[dramatic music]
413
00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:12,485
- Why are you doing this?
414
00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:14,387
What are you so scared of?
415
00:19:14,421 --> 00:19:16,889
- Do you have any idea
what it would cost me
416
00:19:16,923 --> 00:19:19,426
to defend the lawsuits
brought by the 39 families
417
00:19:19,459 --> 00:19:20,860
who lost their kids?
418
00:19:20,893 --> 00:19:22,895
- They'd have to prove
your story wasn't true.
419
00:19:22,929 --> 00:19:24,697
- Then I'd be forced
to name my sources.
420
00:19:24,731 --> 00:19:29,369
*
421
00:19:29,402 --> 00:19:31,671
Give my best to Joan.
422
00:19:31,704 --> 00:19:38,745
*
423
00:19:52,492 --> 00:19:55,495
- Damn it, Peter.
We had a deal.
424
00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:58,498
No calls, no texts,
and definitely no lunches.
425
00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:01,401
- Like I said,
this is important.
426
00:20:04,003 --> 00:20:07,940
- [clears throat]
427
00:20:07,974 --> 00:20:09,976
How bad is it?
428
00:20:10,009 --> 00:20:11,511
- Have you heard
of Todd Anders?
429
00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:14,314
- The sleazy-Website guy?
- Yeah.
430
00:20:16,349 --> 00:20:17,884
He threatened to publish
something about our weekend
431
00:20:17,917 --> 00:20:20,353
at Grand Beach
if I put him on the stand.
432
00:20:22,855 --> 00:20:24,891
- Well, then don't put him
on the stand.
433
00:20:24,924 --> 00:20:26,993
- This is
on the rave trial, Joan.
434
00:20:27,026 --> 00:20:29,362
His testimony will help me
establish motive.
435
00:20:29,396 --> 00:20:31,564
- I said no.
436
00:20:31,598 --> 00:20:34,000
- 39 kids died.
- And I'm married.
437
00:20:34,033 --> 00:20:37,504
- You were separated
at the time.
438
00:20:37,537 --> 00:20:41,774
- I doubt that Sam or the girls
will split those hairs.
439
00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:45,312
*
440
00:20:45,345 --> 00:20:47,880
You're not asking
my permission, are you?
441
00:20:47,914 --> 00:20:51,584
*
442
00:20:51,618 --> 00:20:53,453
- I'm sorry.
443
00:20:53,486 --> 00:20:55,555
*
444
00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:56,823
- No, you're not.
445
00:20:56,856 --> 00:20:58,358
You only care
about your damn case.
446
00:20:58,391 --> 00:20:59,359
- Joan, please.
447
00:20:59,392 --> 00:21:01,027
- You're gonna
ruin my life, Peter.
448
00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:04,331
Pardon me if I don't want
to break bread with you.
449
00:21:04,364 --> 00:21:08,601
*
450
00:21:08,635 --> 00:21:10,603
- [sighs]
451
00:21:10,637 --> 00:21:17,810
*
452
00:21:20,647 --> 00:21:22,382
- Mr. Anders...
453
00:21:22,415 --> 00:21:24,317
I direct your attention
to what is being offered
454
00:21:24,351 --> 00:21:26,353
as People's Exhibit 53.
455
00:21:28,421 --> 00:21:31,924
Do you recognize this document,
Mr. Anders?
456
00:21:31,958 --> 00:21:34,394
- It is an article
that was published
457
00:21:34,427 --> 00:21:36,796
on my Website.
458
00:21:36,829 --> 00:21:38,064
- Please read the headline.
459
00:21:38,097 --> 00:21:40,867
- "Kimball Factory:
A Kiddie Sex Den."
460
00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:43,503
- And the essence
of the story is what?
461
00:21:43,536 --> 00:21:47,507
- That people threw parties
at the abandoned factory
462
00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:50,443
to lure underage teens
to engage in sexual acts.
463
00:21:50,477 --> 00:21:52,412
- They'd get them
drunk and high?
464
00:21:52,445 --> 00:21:53,413
- That's right.
465
00:21:53,446 --> 00:21:54,881
- If someone read this,
466
00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:57,116
might they do
something drastic about it?
467
00:21:57,149 --> 00:22:00,553
- I'm not gonna answer that.
- Nor should you have to.
468
00:22:02,522 --> 00:22:04,323
- I have nothing more,
Your Honor.
469
00:22:06,626 --> 00:22:09,896
- Mr. Forest?
- Uh, no questions.
470
00:22:09,929 --> 00:22:11,498
No questions, Your Honor.
471
00:22:11,531 --> 00:22:12,932
- Mr. Stone?
472
00:22:12,965 --> 00:22:15,868
*
473
00:22:15,902 --> 00:22:17,103
- The People rest.
474
00:22:17,136 --> 00:22:19,939
- Fine, gentlemen. The defense
can present in the morning.
475
00:22:30,917 --> 00:22:31,384
.
476
00:22:31,418 --> 00:22:31,751
- Are you okay?
477
00:22:33,420 --> 00:22:36,423
- [sighs]
I've been better.
478
00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:39,759
Forest didn't object
to the document
479
00:22:39,792 --> 00:22:42,395
or my question to Anders.
480
00:22:42,429 --> 00:22:44,697
He didn't cross Anders
about his sources.
481
00:22:44,731 --> 00:22:46,499
Why?
482
00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:48,768
- Maybe Anders has
something on him.
483
00:22:54,774 --> 00:22:57,544
[sighs] It's a little late
for Forest's book.
484
00:22:57,577 --> 00:22:59,512
- Read the title
of chapter three.
485
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,650
- "Trials: It's All A Con."
486
00:23:03,683 --> 00:23:05,718
- And I think I'm his mark.
487
00:23:11,658 --> 00:23:15,462
- I never thought Dylan could do
something like this.
488
00:23:16,863 --> 00:23:17,930
[exhales deeply]
489
00:23:17,964 --> 00:23:19,832
- But you do now?
490
00:23:19,866 --> 00:23:22,802
- No. Of course not.
491
00:23:22,835 --> 00:23:25,572
He was always
such a sweet boy.
492
00:23:25,605 --> 00:23:27,707
That's what I called him--
my sweet boy.
493
00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,842
[voice breaking]
I know it's silly.
494
00:23:29,876 --> 00:23:34,647
- Was there a time
when he stopped being sweet?
495
00:23:34,681 --> 00:23:37,484
- Dylan was five.
496
00:23:37,517 --> 00:23:39,586
My brother Frank
was taking him fishing.
497
00:23:39,619 --> 00:23:42,555
He was so excited, you know,
like little boys get.
498
00:23:44,691 --> 00:23:48,160
When he got home,
he was different.
499
00:23:48,194 --> 00:23:50,597
- You're lying.
- Watch it, young man.
500
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:53,633
- I know
what he did to you.
501
00:23:53,666 --> 00:23:56,936
From the time he was five
until Frank died.
502
00:23:56,969 --> 00:23:58,871
- She's lying!
She knows nothing about me!
503
00:23:58,905 --> 00:24:02,642
- Mr. Oates, one more outburst,
and I will have you removed.
504
00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:05,512
*
505
00:24:05,545 --> 00:24:07,480
- Did Dylan say anything
about it to you?
506
00:24:07,514 --> 00:24:08,581
- No.
507
00:24:08,615 --> 00:24:11,518
- Then how can you be so sure
it happened, Mrs. Oates?
508
00:24:11,551 --> 00:24:13,820
- I'm his mother.
509
00:24:13,853 --> 00:24:16,523
- Are you aware
that you just confessed
510
00:24:16,556 --> 00:24:19,592
to endangering
the welfare of a child?
511
00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:21,961
- That fire...
512
00:24:21,994 --> 00:24:24,964
all those kids...
513
00:24:24,997 --> 00:24:29,001
[sniffles] If Dylan did it,
it is my fault,
514
00:24:29,035 --> 00:24:31,538
not his.
515
00:24:31,571 --> 00:24:32,972
[dramatic music]
516
00:24:33,005 --> 00:24:35,542
- Let's break for lunch,
shall we?
517
00:24:35,575 --> 00:24:37,544
[gavel bangs]
518
00:24:37,577 --> 00:24:44,517
*
519
00:24:44,551 --> 00:24:46,653
[indistinct chatter]
520
00:24:46,686 --> 00:24:49,656
[light jazz playing
over speakers]
521
00:24:49,689 --> 00:24:52,258
*
522
00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:54,694
- [sighs]
523
00:24:54,727 --> 00:24:57,997
- I assume
this isn't a coincidence.
524
00:24:58,030 --> 00:25:00,533
- It's all a con.
525
00:25:00,567 --> 00:25:02,935
- [chuckles]
526
00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:05,538
Well, at least somebody
pays attention to what I write.
527
00:25:05,572 --> 00:25:06,472
[chuckles]
528
00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:10,242
- "In the courtroom,
reality is irrelevant.
529
00:25:10,276 --> 00:25:12,244
The appearance of reality
is all that matters."
530
00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:15,214
- I do have a way with words.
531
00:25:15,247 --> 00:25:16,749
- That wasn't a mistake--
532
00:25:16,783 --> 00:25:19,652
you sending me
that list of articles.
533
00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:21,721
- Why would I do that
intentionally?
534
00:25:21,754 --> 00:25:24,323
- So I would introduce
your defense for you.
535
00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:26,559
And you'd never have to put
your client on the stand
536
00:25:26,593 --> 00:25:28,327
to be cross-examined.
537
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,763
- Wow. That--that would be
very clever.
538
00:25:30,797 --> 00:25:33,232
- And dishonest.
539
00:25:33,265 --> 00:25:34,967
- Or the appearance thereof.
540
00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:37,570
*
541
00:25:37,604 --> 00:25:39,806
- Was Dylan really abused?
542
00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:41,874
- His mother
certainly thinks so.
543
00:25:41,908 --> 00:25:44,644
- No. I read the transcript
of her testimony.
544
00:25:44,677 --> 00:25:45,578
She never actually said it.
545
00:25:45,612 --> 00:25:47,580
So you never actually
suborned perjury.
546
00:25:47,614 --> 00:25:49,315
- Jeez, I'm getting smarter
by the minute.
547
00:25:49,348 --> 00:25:50,883
- Is the Anders story true?
548
00:25:50,917 --> 00:25:51,884
- I have no idea.
549
00:25:51,918 --> 00:25:53,853
For me,
it was merely fortuitous.
550
00:25:53,886 --> 00:25:56,088
- This isn't a game.
39 kids are dead.
551
00:25:56,122 --> 00:25:59,726
- And my concern is the one
who's still living.
552
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:01,861
[dramatic music]
553
00:26:01,894 --> 00:26:05,665
You got a little of your dad
in you, you know that?
554
00:26:05,698 --> 00:26:06,599
You think a criminal trial
555
00:26:06,633 --> 00:26:09,769
is all about some sort
of ineffable morality,
556
00:26:09,802 --> 00:26:14,841
something out there
that's permanent and infinite.
557
00:26:14,874 --> 00:26:18,645
I got news for you, son--
there ain't no such thing.
558
00:26:18,678 --> 00:26:21,681
What happens in that courtroom
is a zero-sum game.
559
00:26:21,714 --> 00:26:24,383
There's winners
and losers, period.
560
00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:27,620
- So why concern yourself
with using a fake news story
561
00:26:27,654 --> 00:26:29,756
as long as it puts
a W in your column?
562
00:26:29,789 --> 00:26:32,692
- Or at least an M
for "mistrial."
563
00:26:32,725 --> 00:26:34,360
*
564
00:26:34,393 --> 00:26:38,364
Odds are, out of the 12 ordinary
citizens in the jury box,
565
00:26:38,397 --> 00:26:40,800
child sexual abuse will hit home
for one of them.
566
00:26:40,833 --> 00:26:45,037
And that, my friend,
spells hung jury.
567
00:26:45,071 --> 00:26:46,372
- I'll retry him.
568
00:26:46,405 --> 00:26:48,841
- And I'll find
another reality...
569
00:26:48,875 --> 00:26:51,911
maybe even one that's
more acceptable to my client.
570
00:26:51,944 --> 00:26:59,051
*
571
00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:05,658
[door opens]
572
00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:12,899
[door closes]
573
00:27:12,932 --> 00:27:15,367
- The People have no questions
for Mrs. Oates.
574
00:27:19,038 --> 00:27:22,775
- You may go.
Thank you.
575
00:27:22,809 --> 00:27:25,912
- In that case,
the defense rests, Your Honor.
576
00:27:25,945 --> 00:27:29,348
- I think counsel
is jumping the gun.
577
00:27:29,381 --> 00:27:32,351
The People certainly have
the right to examine Mr. Oates.
578
00:27:32,384 --> 00:27:34,386
- [chuckles]
579
00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:35,988
This is still America.
580
00:27:36,022 --> 00:27:38,758
We still have a constitution
and a Fifth Amendment--
581
00:27:38,791 --> 00:27:41,027
- Your Honor, let me remind you
how the defendant reacted
582
00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:44,130
when his mother
was on the stand.
583
00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:46,098
- Your Honor, may we approach?
584
00:27:46,132 --> 00:27:48,434
- Yes. Come.
585
00:27:53,005 --> 00:27:54,741
- Your Honor,
my client was upset.
586
00:27:54,774 --> 00:27:57,844
- He spoke. The jury heard him.
That's testimony.
587
00:27:57,877 --> 00:28:00,012
He waived his rights
against self-incrimination.
588
00:28:00,046 --> 00:28:02,882
- Oh, please. Your Honor--
- Clever, Mr. Stone...
589
00:28:02,915 --> 00:28:05,051
very clever.
590
00:28:05,084 --> 00:28:08,454
I'll probably be reversed
on appeal,
591
00:28:08,487 --> 00:28:10,389
but I'm gonna let you
cross-examine him,
592
00:28:10,422 --> 00:28:14,026
but only as to the matters
that he testified to on direct.
593
00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:17,730
I assume
you're gonna need time
594
00:28:17,764 --> 00:28:19,165
to prepare your client,
Mr. Forest.
595
00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:21,000
I'll give you 24 hours.
596
00:28:25,271 --> 00:28:28,941
- All you can cross Dylan on
is whether his mom was lying
597
00:28:28,975 --> 00:28:30,810
or whether she actually
knew anything about his life.
598
00:28:30,843 --> 00:28:33,112
- So we need to find out
something she didn't know.
599
00:28:33,145 --> 00:28:34,947
Somebody at the rave
must have known him.
600
00:28:34,981 --> 00:28:36,949
- CPD spoke to everybody
who came forward.
601
00:28:36,983 --> 00:28:37,984
[both sigh]
602
00:28:38,017 --> 00:28:40,853
- Have Dawson and Nagel
find someone who didn't.
603
00:28:40,887 --> 00:28:43,923
[train rattling loudly]
604
00:28:56,302 --> 00:28:57,970
- Hey.
605
00:28:58,004 --> 00:29:00,439
- Hey.
606
00:29:00,472 --> 00:29:04,210
Did you tell Stone
about the confession?
607
00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:06,445
- I didn't have to.
608
00:29:06,478 --> 00:29:08,180
- You know, I should have
whacked that little bastard
609
00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:10,950
when I had the chance.
610
00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:15,922
- Hey, Dawson.
611
00:29:15,955 --> 00:29:18,057
Look what I found
on this teddy.
612
00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:20,827
"Dear Arnie, I'm so sorry.
It's all my fault.
613
00:29:20,860 --> 00:29:22,461
Love always, Chloe."
614
00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:24,797
There's no Chloe
on the survivors list.
615
00:29:24,831 --> 00:29:26,165
- Who's Arnie?
616
00:29:26,198 --> 00:29:28,100
- There was
an Arnold Phillips.
617
00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:30,870
He died in the fire.
618
00:29:30,903 --> 00:29:32,872
- Okay.
619
00:29:36,242 --> 00:29:40,079
[music playing faintly
over headphones]
620
00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:42,214
- Hey, Chloe.
621
00:29:42,248 --> 00:29:44,550
- Who are you?
- I'm Laura.
622
00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:46,085
I'm investigating the fire.
623
00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:48,054
Um, your mom said
I could come up.
624
00:29:48,087 --> 00:29:49,321
She's talking to my partner.
625
00:29:49,355 --> 00:29:51,090
[music stops]
626
00:29:51,123 --> 00:29:52,324
It's important, Chloe.
627
00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:54,827
This could help us convict
the guy responsible.
628
00:29:54,861 --> 00:29:57,329
- I wasn't there.
I don't know anything.
629
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:06,538
- I have a daughter.
She's eight.
630
00:30:06,572 --> 00:30:08,841
And I know in a few years,
she's gonna start
631
00:30:08,875 --> 00:30:10,843
keeping secrets from me.
632
00:30:10,877 --> 00:30:12,845
- Can you leave me alone?
633
00:30:24,223 --> 00:30:26,258
[cries]
634
00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:29,561
- I know you were there.
635
00:30:29,595 --> 00:30:33,632
And I know how difficult
it must be to lose a brother.
636
00:30:33,665 --> 00:30:36,202
- [sniffles]
637
00:30:36,235 --> 00:30:39,538
[dramatic music]
638
00:30:39,571 --> 00:30:42,274
Arnie didn't want to go.
639
00:30:42,308 --> 00:30:44,944
I was a jerk.
I kept begging him.
640
00:30:44,977 --> 00:30:48,915
And then when I saw the guy
they arrested on the news...
641
00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:53,219
I didn't know what to do.
642
00:30:53,252 --> 00:30:55,221
- You recognized him?
643
00:30:55,254 --> 00:30:57,589
*
644
00:30:57,623 --> 00:30:59,558
- Yeah.
645
00:30:59,591 --> 00:31:02,194
When I went outside
to have a cigarette,
646
00:31:02,228 --> 00:31:04,230
he was out there...
647
00:31:04,263 --> 00:31:06,899
pacing back and forth.
648
00:31:06,933 --> 00:31:10,269
And then when I went in,
he was arguing with some girl.
649
00:31:12,138 --> 00:31:14,907
- I want--I want you to tell me
if you recognize her.
650
00:31:14,941 --> 00:31:20,312
*
651
00:31:20,346 --> 00:31:22,048
- No.
652
00:31:23,950 --> 00:31:27,153
Yeah. That's her.
653
00:31:27,186 --> 00:31:28,654
Yeah.
654
00:31:30,189 --> 00:31:32,424
- Thank you.
655
00:31:32,458 --> 00:31:34,693
- I don't know a Dylan Oates.
656
00:31:34,726 --> 00:31:36,996
- He seems to know you.
657
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:39,932
Our tech people found that Dylan
had a Facebook account
658
00:31:39,966 --> 00:31:42,068
under the fake name
Kurt Holden.
659
00:31:42,101 --> 00:31:44,603
- I have over a thousand
"friends."
660
00:31:44,636 --> 00:31:45,571
I don't know all of them.
661
00:31:45,604 --> 00:31:50,176
- Dylan only friended
one person, Tamra--you.
662
00:31:50,209 --> 00:31:53,445
- We know you saw him do more
than just step on the paper bag.
663
00:31:53,479 --> 00:31:58,117
[teacup rattling on plate]
664
00:31:58,150 --> 00:31:59,952
- Oh, God.
665
00:31:59,986 --> 00:32:03,990
[sighing]
666
00:32:09,128 --> 00:32:12,999
He came up to me at the rave.
667
00:32:13,032 --> 00:32:14,166
He said that he knew me,
668
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,236
that we'd met on the L,
like, three months ago, but...
669
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:20,706
I had no idea.
670
00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:25,077
He said that he asked me to have
a cup of coffee back then.
671
00:32:25,111 --> 00:32:27,013
- Did you go out with him?
- No.
672
00:32:27,046 --> 00:32:29,015
I-I had to study.
673
00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:31,417
That's what he said
I told him.
674
00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:34,153
But I swear,
I don't remember this at all.
675
00:32:34,186 --> 00:32:38,057
- What else
did he tell you, Tamra?
676
00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:41,994
- He said that I went to a party
instead of going out with him.
677
00:32:42,028 --> 00:32:44,663
But how could he possibly
know that?
678
00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:47,133
- You posted it on Facebook.
679
00:32:47,166 --> 00:32:54,173
*
680
00:32:55,707 --> 00:32:58,210
- [voice breaking]
Oh, God...
681
00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:07,719
[sobbing] All those people are
dead because of me, aren't they?
682
00:33:07,753 --> 00:33:14,726
*
683
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,029
- [sobs]
684
00:33:17,063 --> 00:33:19,231
- I'm sorry, Tamra,
but you'll have to testify--
685
00:33:19,265 --> 00:33:21,400
- Only if we need you.
686
00:33:21,433 --> 00:33:26,038
*
687
00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:34,913
.
688
00:33:34,946 --> 00:33:35,714
- Why did you call your mother
a liar?
689
00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:41,720
- That story about my uncle--
690
00:33:41,753 --> 00:33:43,255
it's a total lie.
691
00:33:43,289 --> 00:33:45,591
He never
did anything weird to me.
692
00:33:45,624 --> 00:33:47,726
- So why would your mom say it
under oath?
693
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:50,129
- 'Cause she's stupid.
694
00:33:52,231 --> 00:33:54,066
- Did you think
boys were being molested
695
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:55,467
at the Kimball Warehouse?
- Objection.
696
00:33:55,501 --> 00:33:56,735
Beyond the scope.
- Sustained.
697
00:33:56,768 --> 00:33:59,505
- Did you ever read an article
about it in "The Anders Report"?
698
00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:01,173
- Same objection.
- Sustained.
699
00:34:01,207 --> 00:34:03,209
Mr. Stone,
you're limited to questions
700
00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:06,145
relating to the defendant's
prior outburst.
701
00:34:10,249 --> 00:34:13,185
- Tell me, Dylan--
why did you say that
702
00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:15,621
your mom doesn't know anything
about your life?
703
00:34:15,654 --> 00:34:17,223
- Because she doesn't.
704
00:34:17,256 --> 00:34:19,125
- Did she know
you were on Facebook?
705
00:34:19,158 --> 00:34:22,594
- [laughs]
I'm not. I mean, it's lame.
706
00:34:22,628 --> 00:34:24,196
- So why did you start
an account
707
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,632
under the fake name
"Kurt Holden"?
708
00:34:29,568 --> 00:34:31,503
- I have no idea
what you're talking about.
709
00:34:31,537 --> 00:34:32,738
- Did your mom know
you were obsessed
710
00:34:32,771 --> 00:34:34,673
with a girl on social media?
711
00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:38,777
- Even if I were,
I wouldn't tell her.
712
00:34:41,547 --> 00:34:44,283
- Do you know who this girl is?
713
00:34:44,316 --> 00:34:45,684
- No.
714
00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:49,121
- How about this one?
715
00:34:49,155 --> 00:34:51,190
- No.
716
00:34:55,227 --> 00:34:57,163
- Who is that, Dylan?
717
00:35:02,268 --> 00:35:05,804
- She's the blind one
who said she knows me.
718
00:35:07,273 --> 00:35:09,341
- Her name is Tamra Collins.
719
00:35:09,375 --> 00:35:13,579
And her face was all over the
newsfeed on your phony account.
720
00:35:15,847 --> 00:35:18,284
These were photos
that you liked.
721
00:35:20,752 --> 00:35:23,722
[dramatic music]
722
00:35:23,755 --> 00:35:30,796
*
723
00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:36,368
Hmm.
724
00:35:36,402 --> 00:35:38,337
Looks like she's having
a great time.
725
00:35:38,370 --> 00:35:45,344
*
726
00:35:45,377 --> 00:35:48,314
- Whatever.
727
00:35:48,347 --> 00:35:49,848
- Did this make you
a little jealous?
728
00:35:49,881 --> 00:35:52,918
- Objection.
- Withdrawn.
729
00:35:52,951 --> 00:35:56,588
Did your mom know that you asked
Tamra out three months ago?
730
00:35:56,622 --> 00:35:58,424
- No. Because I didn't.
731
00:35:58,457 --> 00:36:00,659
- Did she know that
Tamra made up some lame excuse
732
00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:02,594
to dump you
while she went to a rave?
733
00:36:02,628 --> 00:36:04,963
- No.
Because that never happened.
734
00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:08,734
- Did you ever tell your mom
how humiliated you felt?
735
00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:10,336
*
736
00:36:10,369 --> 00:36:12,338
- Why would I care
if some bimbo preferred
737
00:36:12,371 --> 00:36:14,206
to be with garbage
instead of me?
738
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,275
- So you'd just as soon
sit at home alone
739
00:36:16,308 --> 00:36:19,645
on your computer?
740
00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:21,447
- As a matter of fact,
I would.
741
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,349
- To hell with Tamra
and her friends, right?
742
00:36:23,382 --> 00:36:27,753
- That's right.
They're all irrelevant to me.
743
00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:30,756
- So it's no big deal
that they're all dead?
744
00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:33,359
- Objection.
- Withdrawn.
745
00:36:33,392 --> 00:36:37,663
*
746
00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:40,899
I have nothing further,
Your Honor.
747
00:36:40,932 --> 00:36:47,939
*
748
00:36:58,917 --> 00:37:00,819
- Why did he do it?
749
00:37:01,987 --> 00:37:03,889
I don't know either.
750
00:37:03,922 --> 00:37:06,792
Mr. Stone told you
a hell of story
751
00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:09,961
about lightbulbs
and kitty litter,
752
00:37:09,995 --> 00:37:12,764
door wedges,
brown cargo jackets,
753
00:37:12,798 --> 00:37:15,967
but unless I missed it,
he never quite told you
754
00:37:16,001 --> 00:37:18,704
why Dylan Oates started a fire
755
00:37:18,737 --> 00:37:23,275
at a party filled with people
he didn't know.
756
00:37:23,309 --> 00:37:25,711
But the truth...
757
00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:28,447
is that lots of people
have lightbulbs
758
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,518
and kitty litter, door wedges,
brown cargo jackets.
759
00:37:32,551 --> 00:37:36,322
But only one had the motive...
760
00:37:36,355 --> 00:37:40,292
to cause
such unutterable devastation.
761
00:37:40,326 --> 00:37:41,893
Now, was it Dylan Oates?
762
00:37:41,927 --> 00:37:45,497
Or did Mr. Stone merely
pull a patsy out of a hat?
763
00:37:45,531 --> 00:37:48,934
A patsy who happened to have
a brown cargo jacket?
764
00:37:48,967 --> 00:37:53,372
A patsy whose childhood
was tormented
765
00:37:53,405 --> 00:37:57,509
by such unspeakable
indignities...
766
00:37:57,543 --> 00:37:59,711
he would risk going to prison
767
00:37:59,745 --> 00:38:03,449
rather than admit
what really happened?
768
00:38:03,482 --> 00:38:04,916
No.
769
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:08,420
If it was Dylan Oates
who started the fire,
770
00:38:08,454 --> 00:38:09,988
surely Mr. Stone
would have answered
771
00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:12,558
that one simple,
crucial question...
772
00:38:14,793 --> 00:38:16,362
Why?
773
00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:33,879
- 39 children dead.
774
00:38:35,914 --> 00:38:36,948
Mr. Forest is correct.
775
00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:40,452
I didn't tell you
why Dylan Oates set that fire
776
00:38:40,486 --> 00:38:43,589
and killed these 39 innocents.
777
00:38:44,923 --> 00:38:46,825
I didn't have to...
778
00:38:46,858 --> 00:38:50,128
because Dylan told you himself.
779
00:38:50,161 --> 00:38:51,597
He said it here.
780
00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:53,599
and here...
781
00:38:57,035 --> 00:38:59,571
And here.
782
00:39:05,577 --> 00:39:08,380
He said it the way people say
most things today--
783
00:39:08,414 --> 00:39:13,118
digitally, by text or Twitter
or Tumblr or Facebook.
784
00:39:13,151 --> 00:39:16,021
He told you he was obsessed
with Tamra Collins,
785
00:39:16,054 --> 00:39:17,523
a woman he met only briefly
786
00:39:17,556 --> 00:39:20,058
but still wanted
nothing to do with him.
787
00:39:20,091 --> 00:39:21,827
He stalked her,
788
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:23,829
not by following her home
or to work,
789
00:39:23,862 --> 00:39:25,096
but on social media.
790
00:39:25,130 --> 00:39:28,066
Why?
Because that's the world...
791
00:39:28,099 --> 00:39:30,802
Dylan Oates inhabits.
792
00:39:30,836 --> 00:39:33,539
The rectangular-bordered
landscape of his desktop,
793
00:39:33,572 --> 00:39:36,107
laptop, iPad, smartphone.
[hand tapping]
794
00:39:36,141 --> 00:39:38,410
A world where someone,
with a couple of keystrokes,
795
00:39:38,444 --> 00:39:42,548
can express anger,
love, hate
796
00:39:42,581 --> 00:39:47,152
to anyone anywhere
without risk of reprisal.
797
00:39:47,185 --> 00:39:50,656
It's a world
where deceit flourishes
798
00:39:50,689 --> 00:39:54,025
and voyeurism thrives...
[tapping continues]
799
00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:57,996
Where real human contact
and discourse
800
00:39:58,029 --> 00:40:01,933
is replaced by bits and bytes
and logarithms.
801
00:40:01,967 --> 00:40:03,935
Where Tamra Collins
is always smiling...
802
00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:05,604
[hand pounding]
- Dylan.
803
00:40:05,637 --> 00:40:09,140
- Always at a party,
and always having a great time.
804
00:40:09,174 --> 00:40:10,609
[pounding on table]
805
00:40:10,642 --> 00:40:12,043
- Dylan.
- Mr. Oates, that's enough!
806
00:40:12,077 --> 00:40:13,845
- Dylan.
807
00:40:13,879 --> 00:40:15,981
You got to control yourself.
808
00:40:16,014 --> 00:40:23,021
*
809
00:40:24,022 --> 00:40:27,459
- See, in Dylan's head,
Tamra had...
810
00:40:27,493 --> 00:40:29,595
a perfect life.
811
00:40:29,628 --> 00:40:31,997
*
812
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:33,465
And Dylan wasn't invited.
813
00:40:33,499 --> 00:40:37,469
*
814
00:40:37,503 --> 00:40:41,873
How dare she exclude you
from her perfect world?
815
00:40:41,907 --> 00:40:44,209
How dare she embarrass you
by announcing to the world
816
00:40:44,242 --> 00:40:47,613
on Facebook
that you weren't part of it?
817
00:40:47,646 --> 00:40:49,648
*
818
00:40:49,681 --> 00:40:51,983
See, Dylan couldn't let her
get away with that,
819
00:40:52,017 --> 00:40:56,121
so he set fire to the world
that didn't want him.
820
00:40:57,656 --> 00:40:59,925
And then he watched it burn.
821
00:41:01,727 --> 00:41:06,264
Now, I wonder, are those tears
for the 39 dead?
822
00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:09,701
Or are they for your own
sad and lonely life?
823
00:41:11,069 --> 00:41:12,638
- [shouts]
- Officers!
824
00:41:12,671 --> 00:41:14,640
- Dylan!
- Restrain him.
825
00:41:14,673 --> 00:41:16,107
[gavel bangs]
826
00:41:16,141 --> 00:41:17,576
Order in this court.
827
00:41:17,609 --> 00:41:19,110
Mr. Oates.
[gavel bangs]
828
00:41:19,144 --> 00:41:21,179
Mr. Oates, that's enough.
829
00:41:21,212 --> 00:41:23,715
Officers, remove him
from this courtroom.
830
00:41:23,749 --> 00:41:30,956
*
831
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:36,595
- "In the matter of
the People versus Dylan Oates,
832
00:41:36,628 --> 00:41:39,097
"on the first count,
aggravated arson,
833
00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:42,534
"the jury finds
the defendant guilty.
834
00:41:42,568 --> 00:41:44,202
"On the second count,
835
00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:48,173
"first-degree murder
of Isabel Acuna, guilty.
836
00:41:48,206 --> 00:41:49,741
"On the third count,
837
00:41:49,775 --> 00:41:53,945
"first-degree murder
of Dana Altamore, guilty.
838
00:41:53,979 --> 00:41:55,647
"On the fourth count,
839
00:41:55,681 --> 00:41:59,685
"first-degree murder
of Lexi Olinksy, guilty.
840
00:41:59,718 --> 00:42:01,587
"On the fifth count,
841
00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:06,592
"first-degree murder
of Alexis Atkinson, guilty.
842
00:42:06,625 --> 00:42:08,093
"On the sixth count,
843
00:42:08,126 --> 00:42:12,263
first-degree murder
of Sam Aliro, guilty"...
844
00:42:46,765 --> 00:42:49,768
[wolf howls]
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