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Do you mind that I'm here?
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No, you got to be here, right?
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Sort of.
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How often have you
been seeing Gail?
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Once or twice a week.
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- You saw her the
day she was killed?
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Yeah.
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- Had you had a fight
with her of any kind?
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You're from New York?
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Yeah.
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- There's a lot of crazy
people in New York.
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[scoffs]
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It's like they're all
talking at the same time--
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or arguing-- or
crying and praying.
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Sandy.
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- Seat opens up on the
subway, so I sit down.
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And the lady next to me
was standing, starts crying
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because she wanted to sit down.
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Sandy, I need your help.
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I need you to stop thinking
about crazy people in New York
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and start thinking about the
crime you've been charged with.
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Oh, I hate these patterns.
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What patterns?
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- Patterns on the
floor, the linoleum.
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Keep dividing and subdividing.
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There's lines, and there's
quadrants and hemispheres.
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And it's not that restful
to have to look at that.
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I prefer to have plain floors--
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plain walls.
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Although these walls
are pretty plain,
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but there's too much going
on with those floors.
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Did you kill anybody, Sandy?
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- Now, what the hell will
you do if I said I did?
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I'd be your lawyer.
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The same thing I'd do
if you said you didn't.
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Then what's the difference?
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- It might affect the
way I try the case.
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Yeah, but it shouldn't though.
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You should try and get me
off no matter what, right?
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If that's what you want.
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That's what I want.
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[theme music]
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[music playing]
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- Let me begin this morning
by welcoming our newest
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associate, Ms. Jane Halliday.
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- Here, here.
Welcome.
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- How do you do?
- Hi.
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- Hi.
- Daniel.
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- I appreciate you giving me the
opportunity to work with you.
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I do you hope I can
be of some service.
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Also, I would like to
thank everyone in advance
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for all of the help I'm
sure I will be asking for.
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Ask and it shall be given you.
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Seek and you shall find.
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Knock and it shall
be opened unto you.
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- Matthew 7.
- Yes, indeed.
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- Well, I don't know the
appropriate biblical passage
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for new business,
but whatever it is,
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this young lady is responsible
for bringing some with her.
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Kerry versus the Department
of Veteran Affairs.
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Ms. Halliday?
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- David Kerry is a
veteran of the Gulf War.
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Like hundreds of
others, he's come down
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with a debilitating illness
as a result of exposure
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to chemicals in Kuwait.
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Yeah, I heard about that.
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They have all kinds of
strange symptoms like hair
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loss, immune system problems.
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- Well, until
recently, VA doctors
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routinely dismissed this
condition as psychosomatic.
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- How did you come
to represent him?
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- Well, he's a
member of my church.
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Great.
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Religious organizations,
I believe,
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are a terrific and largely
untapped source of referrals.
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With that, more of us were
trolling in those waters.
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Next up, Bannister versus
the American Buying Network.
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[chuckles]
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That's mine.
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We represent the buying network.
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The plaintiff is
a guy who's suing
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them for selling to his wife.
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He claims she's got an
obsessive compulsive shopping
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disorder that they took
undue advantage of.
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You're kidding.
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- Yet another
theory for avoiding
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personal responsibility.
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- Those channels do play
to people's compulsions.
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Oh, come on, she's weak.
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She's extravagant,
and she's weak.
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Compulsions like this
are a sign of weakness.
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- That wouldn't apply
to your desire to own
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a $275,000 Bentley, would it?
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No, it wouldn't.
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- I'm expecting that if we're
successful in this matter, then
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the American Buying Network
may tap us for a variety
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of other services.
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- Eli, what's happening
with your case?
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- I'm preparing for
trial, interviewing
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witnesses, going over police
reports, that kind of thing.
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I do need to hire a
private investigator.
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If you've used somebody
who you recommend, I'd--
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Jinx Baldasseri.
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You've used her?
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- [distant yelling]
- Yes, I have.
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- Look out!
Look out!
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Look out!
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Whoa!
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I'll call an ambulance.
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- How much is this one
going to cost us, Douglas?
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- Not a dime.
- Are you sure?
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- First of all, the contractor
is primarily liable.
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Second of all, those stilts
are illegal in the state
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of California.
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Assumption of risk,
comparative negligence,
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we got nothing to worry about.
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Excuse me.
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How many do you see, Dave?
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[music playing]
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- Mr. Bannister, how
long has your wife
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been shopping with the
American Buying Network?
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Since March of 1992.
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- What kinds of items
did she purchase?
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- Clothes, power tools,
kitchen appliances,
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a radio transmitter, dog fence--
never mind that we don't have
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a dog --stuffed animals
and dolls-- never mind that
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we don't have any children.
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- Uh, the stuffed animals
and dolls are collectibles.
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Ms. Bannister, please.
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- The ceramic ducks wearing
galoshes are also collectibles?
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Yes, they are.
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- Uh, folks, for the
purposes of this trial,
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you two are on the same side.
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I don't want to
hear any arguing.
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I'm sorry, Your Honor.
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- Mr. Bannister, is
your wife currently
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under treatment for any
kind of mental disorder?
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- She's under treatment for
obsessive compulsive shopping.
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- Did you inform the American
Buying Network of that fact?
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By registered mail.
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How did they respond?
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- They responded by continuing
to sell her anything
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and everything she wanted.
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- Mr. Bannister, what
has been the result?
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- The result has been that
I'm facing bankruptcy.
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I have no further questions.
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- Mr. Bannister, let's talk
about those ceramic ducks.
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Your wife has collected
ornamental birds for some time,
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hasn't she?
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- Birds, rabbits,
souvenir spoons.
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She collects everything.
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- But your wife
started collecting
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before she started watching
the American Buying Network,
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didn't she?
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- In a limited capacity,
I suppose she did.
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- $1,500's worth of glass
swans your wife bought
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in 1989 at the Crystal
Palace Boutique,
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is that a limited capacity?
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- All I know is that since
they have been broadcasting,
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a day doesn't go by
when a delivery truck
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does not come to my house.
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- You claim your wife suffers
from a shopping compulsion.
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Is there anything about
your wife's voice that
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would indicate this compulsion?
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No.
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- Anything at all that
would in your opinion
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indicate to a phone operator
at the American Buying Network
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that your wife was compulsive?
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- Well, how about the fact
that she calls 50 times a day?
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- So you're saying that based
on the frequency of your wife's
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calls, an operator
should have been
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able to diagnose her as
having a psychiatric disorder?
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That's right.
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- And furthermore,
based on the diagnosis,
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they should have refused
to sell her anything?
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That's right.
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You don't have an
American Booze Network
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selling to drunks,
an American Dope
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Network selling to junkies.
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By the same token, you should
not have an American Buying
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Network selling to my wife.
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- Mr. Kerry, when did you first
experience symptoms related
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to your current condition?
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During Operation Desert Storm.
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My unit secured the Al
Wafra oilfields which
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the Iraqis had set on fire.
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And the smoke was so thick
that you could taste it.
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And that week, I got a skin
rash, headaches, and I--
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I coughed black
fluid from my lungs.
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- And how was your health after
returning to the United States?
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- I experienced fatigue, pain
in my joints and some hair loss,
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as well as severe headaches
whenever I smelled anything
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chemical, but I didn't
realize how bad off I
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was until I failed my
annual physical performance
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test that August.
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- What happened
after you failed?
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Uh, I was discharged.
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- What, if any, medical
treatment did you
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receive after your discharge?
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- I went to the veterans
hospital maybe a dozen times
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over a period of six
months, but the doctor
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said they could never find
anything wrong with me.
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Dr. Croyder asked me if I was
malingering right to my face.
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In the end, he just wrote
me down as being depressed
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and he gave me some pills.
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- How has your illness
affected your life?
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- Two years ago, my wife and
I had plans to buy a house
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and start a family.
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Today, I have-- no
job, no savings,
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$100,000 in medical bills, my
wife divorce me, and my career
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in the military is over.
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- Why are you suing the
Department of Veterans Affairs?
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- I served my country, and I
don't regret that for a second,
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but the deal was if I
got hurt that the VA was
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supposed to take care of me.
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And instead, they-- they
just watched me fall apart.
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I have nothing further.
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- Mr. Kerry, according
to your hospital file,
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you were seen by nine VA
specialists who conducted
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no fewer than 23
diagnostic tests
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on you, blood panels,
bone marrow biopsies,
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EMGs, EKGs, CAT scans.
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Is this your idea of doctors
just watching you fall apart?
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- They never tested me
for chemical poisoning.
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- Let me ask you
something, Mr. Kerry,
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how do you explain the fact that
of the 120 men in your unit,
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you're the only one
claiming to be permanently
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harmed by oil fires?
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- Maybe I breathed more smoke.
I don't know.
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Look, there are hundreds
of guys from other units
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who came back just
as sick as me.
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- Nobody disputes that you
and other vets are sick,
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but you're accusing VA
doctors of negligence.
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Do you have any
reason for believing
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that Dr. Croyder
and his staff were
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less than diligent
in their attempts
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to diagnose and treat you?
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- Yes, I got hurt over there--
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just as sure as if
I'd taken a bullet!
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And Dr. Croyder, he told
me it was all in my head.
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Mr. Kerry.
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- I mean, he let me
get worse and worse
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to where I'll never recover.
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To me, that's being
less than diligent.
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To me, he was just
being a government
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bureaucrat when what he
should have been was a doctor!
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I don't like what's happening.
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- Rae, I entered a
plea of not guilty
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because I think there's a
chance of getting him off.
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- I hate to say this, but I
don't think that's necessarily
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what's best for him.
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What are you talking about?
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Ed, face it.
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For once in your life, look at
things the way they really are.
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Our son is incapable of living
outside of an institution.
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We have known that
since he was a teenager.
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I don't accept that.
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I know you don't accept it.
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But whether you accept it
or not, it's the truth.
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Eli, I want you to change
the plea to insanity.
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I won't do that.
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- What do you mean
you won't do that?
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Just what I said.
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You hired me to be
your son's attorney.
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That doesn't make you my client.
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That makes him my client.
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And I'm going to do what's
in his best interests.
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- Do you think it's in
his best interest for him
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to be on the street?
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- I think it's in
his best interest
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to be in a controlled
therapeutic environment.
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That doesn't mean
locking him up,
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particularly when he's
innocent of the crime
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with which he's been charged.
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- Dr. Anson, as a specialist
in environmental medicine,
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have you examined David Kerry?
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Yes, I have.
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Mr. Kerry is suffering
from chemical sensitivity
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due to petroleum exposure.
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I might also add
that I've personally
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diagnosed 27 Gulf veterans
with the same condition.
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- On what do you
base your diagnoses?
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On chemical response tests.
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Normally harmless
concentrations of petroleum
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triggered violent
reactions in Mr. Kerry,
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indicating a past exposure to
a damaging dose of chemicals.
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- What treatment, if any,
exists for this condition?
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- Patients are injected
with tiny amounts
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of petroleum derivates to
rebuild their tolerance.
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Now, if Mr. Kerry had received
such treatment early on,
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I expect he would
have fully recovered.
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- Doctor, in your opinion,
should a physician
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who isn't trained in your
field, like Dr. Croyder,
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be expected to know about
chemical sensitivity?
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Generally, no.
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But two years ago, when
the first vet showed up
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with these symptoms, I
contacted Dr. Croyder to alert
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him about chemical sensitivity.
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I sent him case studies,
treatment protocols.
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If he would have used
them, he could have saved
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David Kerry untold suffering.
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I have nothing further.
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- Doctor, isn't it true that
the American Board of Medical
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Specialists rejects
environmental medicine
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as a specialty because they
find your methods inconclusive?
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Yes.
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Naturally, I disagree.
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Naturally.
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Now, these response tests you
spoke of, assuming they're
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accurate, they
show that Mr. Kerry
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is sensitive to
chemicals, correct?
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- Yes, and such
sensitivity indicates
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chemical poisoning in the past.
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- But assuming
that's true, how do
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you know that chemical
poisoning and not something else
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is behind Mr. Kerry's fatigue,
joint pain, and weight loss?
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- Our research shows
that those symptoms
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are consistent with
chemical exposure.
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- Are you aware that
there are other theories
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that have been proposed for
what's wrong with these vets?
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Some doctors say they have
a rare bacterial infection.
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Others say the
culprit is a parasite
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transmitted in the bite of
a Middle Eastern sand flea.
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- I know that I have
been treating these vets
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and getting results.
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- After a year of
your treatments,
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Mr. Kerry still appears
to be quite ill.
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- That's because Dr.
Croyder has allowed
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his condition to progress
to an irreversible stage.
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That's one explanation.
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Another is that your
diagnosis is wrong
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and your treatment
is ineffective.
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- Objection!
- That's all right.
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I'm done with the doctor.
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- What is your position
at the American
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Buying Network, Mr. Atkins?
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- Founder, president, chief
cook and bottle washer.
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It's pretty much my baby.
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- Could you describe for
us the kind of interaction
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that would have likely taken
place between Philomena
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Bannister and the
various operators
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she would have
taken orders with?
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- Generally, there would
have been an exchange
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of pleasantries, then
we'd take her name,
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address, daytime
telephone number,
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and a major credit card.
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She'd place an order.
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And that would be that.
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- Mr. Atkins, why
did the American
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Buying Network continue to
sell to Philomena Bannister?
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- It's not our role to
decide for our customers
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how much they should spend
or what they should buy
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or how often they
should shop any more
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than it's the role
of Neiman Marcus
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or Nordstrom's or Bob's Big Boy.
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As long as Philomena Bannister
wants to be our customer,
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it's not up to me
to say she can't be.
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Thank you.
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Nothing further.
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- Mr. Atkins, do
you have any idea
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how much Philomena Bannister
purchased from the American
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Buying Network?
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No, actually, I don't.
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- Would it surprise you to learn
that she averaged over $1,500
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a week in the past two years?
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No.
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- Would you say that
sounds a little excessive?
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- I'm in no position to
say anything of the kind.
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What's excessive for one
person is moderate for another.
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- Does the fact that
these two people
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face the prospect of the bank
foreclosing on their mortgage
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suggest to you that their
case might not be moderate?
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- Again, I don't
presume to tell someone
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how to spend their money.
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If a shelf full of figurines
or a strand of faux pearls
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and matching earrings brings
joy and a sense of well-being
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to someone's existence,
who am I to tell them they
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shouldn't have those things?
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00:16:02,336 --> 00:16:03,880
- Tell me, Mr.
Atkins, do you have
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any familiarity with
compulsive shopping disorder?
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Not really, no.
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- Well, let me put it this
way, did it ever occur to you
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that Philomena Bannister
might not need any more
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shelves of figurines or
strands of faux pearls
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with matching earrings?
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- If I thought that way,
I'd be out of business.
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Spoken like a true visionary.
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Objection.
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Withdrawn.
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00:16:24,025 --> 00:16:24,984
Nothing further.
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[chatter]
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[knocking on door]
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Eli?
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00:16:32,366 --> 00:16:35,036
Eli, this is Jinx Baldasseri.
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00:16:35,036 --> 00:16:36,037
How do you do?
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00:16:36,037 --> 00:16:36,996
Hi.
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00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:38,164
Can I get you something?
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00:16:38,164 --> 00:16:39,332
- A bottled water
would be great.
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00:16:39,332 --> 00:16:40,708
- Sure.
- Thanks for coming over.
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00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:42,960
- You're representing
that guy who's charged
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00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,337
with killing a social worker?
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00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:45,838
Right.
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00:16:45,838 --> 00:16:47,715
- From what my friends in
the DA's office tell me,
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00:16:47,715 --> 00:16:49,967
you've got your work
cut out for you.
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00:16:49,967 --> 00:16:50,927
That I do.
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00:16:50,927 --> 00:16:52,678
What can I do for you?
407
00:16:52,678 --> 00:16:55,431
- I have reason to suspect that
the husband's not all he seems.
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00:16:55,431 --> 00:16:57,225
You think he killed his wife?
409
00:16:57,225 --> 00:16:58,643
I don't know.
410
00:16:58,643 --> 00:17:00,728
- Is this an exercise in
wishful thinking then?
411
00:17:00,728 --> 00:17:02,230
- It's a little
bit more than that.
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00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:04,232
The husband's been seen
around town with a woman
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00:17:04,232 --> 00:17:05,608
he seems to know quite well.
414
00:17:05,608 --> 00:17:06,984
I'm led to believe
their behavior
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00:17:06,984 --> 00:17:08,611
is on the libidinous side.
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00:17:08,611 --> 00:17:10,696
- I can put a tail on
him 24 hours a day.
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00:17:10,696 --> 00:17:12,531
I can find out
who the girlfriend
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00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:13,866
is and put a tail on her.
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00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:15,076
Sounds good.
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00:17:15,076 --> 00:17:17,828
- I charge $750
per eight-hour day.
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00:17:17,828 --> 00:17:20,623
Overtime and out of
pocket expenses are extra.
422
00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:22,083
- You come very
highly recommended.
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00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:23,793
I'm sure you're worth
whatever you charge.
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00:17:23,793 --> 00:17:25,253
Excuse me, here's your water.
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00:17:25,253 --> 00:17:26,087
Thanks.
426
00:17:26,087 --> 00:17:26,963
Sure.
427
00:17:26,963 --> 00:17:27,797
I love your outfit.
428
00:17:27,797 --> 00:17:28,798
Oh, thank you.
429
00:17:28,798 --> 00:17:29,924
Really fabulous.
430
00:17:29,924 --> 00:17:30,925
Thank you.
431
00:17:30,925 --> 00:17:32,969
Is that a Todd Oldham vest?
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00:17:32,969 --> 00:17:34,845
- Actually, it's
a Comme de Garcon.
433
00:17:34,845 --> 00:17:36,013
Oh, really?
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00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:36,806
Glass.
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00:17:36,806 --> 00:17:37,640
Oh, I'm sorry.
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00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,350
I'll be right back.
437
00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:40,351
- I'm sure people tell you all
the time how you don't look
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00:17:40,351 --> 00:17:41,769
like a private investigator.
439
00:17:41,769 --> 00:17:42,770
Yes, they do.
440
00:17:42,770 --> 00:17:44,230
Yeah, I figured they did.
441
00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:45,856
- Is that something you
were planning on saying?
442
00:17:45,856 --> 00:17:47,066
- Me?
No.
443
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:48,526
Good.
444
00:17:48,526 --> 00:17:50,236
Why don't we start
going over the file?
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00:17:50,236 --> 00:17:51,320
Oh, right.
446
00:17:57,451 --> 00:17:59,996
- Dr. Croyder, during
your examination
447
00:17:59,996 --> 00:18:04,333
of David Kerry, what evidence of
physical illness did you find.
448
00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:06,836
- Despite extensive
diagnostic testing,
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00:18:06,836 --> 00:18:09,130
I found no evidence of
anything physically wrong
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00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:10,464
with Mr. Kerry.
451
00:18:10,464 --> 00:18:11,799
- And what did you
conclude was the cause
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00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:13,551
of Mr. Kerry's symptoms?
453
00:18:13,551 --> 00:18:16,596
- At the time, I concluded the
cause was clinical depression.
454
00:18:16,596 --> 00:18:18,514
Mr. Kerry's fatigue,
weight loss,
455
00:18:18,514 --> 00:18:21,809
mood swings, and loss of
appetite fit the criteria.
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00:18:21,809 --> 00:18:23,894
I prescribed
medication accordingly.
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00:18:23,894 --> 00:18:25,646
- Do you recall
during this period
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00:18:25,646 --> 00:18:29,525
having a conversation with Dr.
Anson on chemical sensitivity?
459
00:18:29,525 --> 00:18:32,612
- Yes, and I received
and read his materials.
460
00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:35,614
- Did you consider treating Mr.
Kerry for chemical sensitivity?
461
00:18:35,614 --> 00:18:36,866
No.
462
00:18:36,866 --> 00:18:38,534
I found the theory
speculative and I
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00:18:38,534 --> 00:18:40,494
wasn't about to
experiment on my patients
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with treatments whose efficacy
and safety was unproven.
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00:18:44,332 --> 00:18:46,459
- Dr. Croyder, is
there anything you
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00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,878
know now that might
cause you to revise
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00:18:48,878 --> 00:18:50,838
your diagnosis of Mr. Kerry?
468
00:18:50,838 --> 00:18:54,300
- The truth is nobody knows
what's causing these symptoms.
469
00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,802
But having seen more
cases of Gulf veterans
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00:18:56,802 --> 00:18:59,597
with these sort of
problems, we have a basis
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00:18:59,597 --> 00:19:02,058
for concluding that some sort
of physiological condition
472
00:19:02,058 --> 00:19:03,392
does exist.
473
00:19:03,392 --> 00:19:05,811
So I might very well
revise my diagnosis.
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00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:06,896
I have nothing further.
475
00:19:06,896 --> 00:19:09,607
[chatter]
476
00:19:09,607 --> 00:19:12,693
- Dr. Croyder, in
your mind, does
477
00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:14,820
it indicate a prudent
standard of care
478
00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:17,365
when a patient is allowed
to deteriorate to the point
479
00:19:17,365 --> 00:19:19,408
where he can't walk unassisted?
480
00:19:19,408 --> 00:19:24,372
- I watch Mr. Kerry decline with
great frustration and sympathy,
481
00:19:24,372 --> 00:19:26,123
but I did everything
I could for him based
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00:19:26,123 --> 00:19:27,792
on accepted medical practice.
483
00:19:27,792 --> 00:19:30,127
- Well, given that
accepted medical practice
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00:19:30,127 --> 00:19:32,004
had failed Mr.
Kerry, how could you
485
00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:34,298
dismiss Dr. Anson's approach?
486
00:19:34,298 --> 00:19:38,177
- I received my training at
Johns Hopkins, Ms. Halliday.
487
00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:41,097
I was taught not to subject
my patients to the risks
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00:19:41,097 --> 00:19:42,765
of unproven treatments.
489
00:19:42,765 --> 00:19:44,642
- You never told me
a treatment existed.
490
00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:46,143
How could you know
and not tell me?
491
00:19:46,143 --> 00:19:47,478
- Control your
client, Ms. Halliday.
492
00:19:47,478 --> 00:19:48,813
- I mean, it should
have been up to me.
493
00:19:48,813 --> 00:19:49,480
How could you know
and not even tell me?
494
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,356
David.
495
00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:56,654
Dr. Croyder, the treatment
for chemical exposure
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00:19:56,654 --> 00:19:58,322
is virtually risk-free.
497
00:19:58,322 --> 00:20:01,283
Didn't you owe it to David
Kerry to at least give it a try?
498
00:20:01,283 --> 00:20:04,328
- We see hundreds of
veterans a day, Ms. Halliday.
499
00:20:04,328 --> 00:20:06,789
We do not have the
time or the funds
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00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:08,958
to try every
non-conventional treatment
501
00:20:08,958 --> 00:20:10,209
that comes down the pike.
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00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:12,753
- So to be
cost-effective, you gave
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00:20:12,753 --> 00:20:14,130
this man a handful
of happy pills
504
00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:15,714
- and shoved him out the door?
- Objection.
505
00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:17,258
Sustained.
506
00:20:17,258 --> 00:20:18,759
- The fact that he laid down
his life for his country
507
00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:20,052
- didn't matter?
- Objection!
508
00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:21,220
Ms. Halliday.
509
00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:22,972
- His country was
through with him
510
00:20:22,972 --> 00:20:24,724
and you weren't about to expend
the time or money to treat him.
511
00:20:24,724 --> 00:20:26,142
- Objection!
- Sustained.
512
00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:27,685
- Is it possible, Doctor,
that had you tried
513
00:20:27,685 --> 00:20:30,104
Dr. Anson's treatment
two years ago,
514
00:20:30,104 --> 00:20:32,231
David Kerry would
be well by now?
515
00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:35,234
Is it possible that had you
been of the mind to try,
516
00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:37,570
you could have done
something to help David Kerry
517
00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:41,157
when he asked you for help?
518
00:20:41,157 --> 00:20:43,826
- I don't know the
answer to that question.
519
00:20:43,826 --> 00:20:45,619
I have no others.
520
00:20:45,619 --> 00:20:49,123
[chatter]
521
00:20:49,123 --> 00:20:50,040
Thank you, Doctor.
522
00:20:57,590 --> 00:21:01,635
[music playing]
523
00:21:08,476 --> 00:21:11,896
If you go to war and
get hit by a bullet,
524
00:21:11,896 --> 00:21:16,400
they give you a medal, and
everyone wants to see the scar.
525
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,904
But when you're hit with
a bolt of toxic chemicals,
526
00:21:19,904 --> 00:21:22,031
they tell you it's
all in your head.
527
00:21:22,031 --> 00:21:25,242
Like hundreds of other
Desert Storm veterans,
528
00:21:25,242 --> 00:21:28,496
David Kerry came home
sick, only to face
529
00:21:28,496 --> 00:21:32,208
skepticism and denial from those
charged with making him well.
530
00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:35,211
It was Dr. Croyder's
job to do everything
531
00:21:35,211 --> 00:21:37,922
in his power to relieve
David Kerry's suffering.
532
00:21:37,922 --> 00:21:41,842
Not only did he fail to do
so, but by choosing to ignore
533
00:21:41,842 --> 00:21:44,804
a promising therapy, heaped
enormous and needless amounts
534
00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:46,555
of suffering onto his patient.
535
00:21:46,555 --> 00:21:48,849
If not for Dr.
Croyder's inaction,
536
00:21:48,849 --> 00:21:52,436
David Kerry would be able to
walk right now without using
537
00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:56,190
a cane, he would be able
to climb a flight of stairs
538
00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:58,317
without gasping for breath.
539
00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:00,694
David Kerry deserved better.
540
00:22:00,694 --> 00:22:04,323
All of the men and women who
risk their lives in service
541
00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:07,493
of our country deserve better
542
00:22:07,493 --> 00:22:11,539
Dr. Croyder got the
physician's credo mixed up.
543
00:22:11,539 --> 00:22:16,168
Instead of first do no harm,
he heard first do nothing.
544
00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:19,088
And by doing nothing,
he caused David
545
00:22:19,088 --> 00:22:24,385
Kerry a great deal of
harm, harm from which
546
00:22:24,385 --> 00:22:26,595
he will never recover.
547
00:22:26,595 --> 00:22:30,224
[chatter]
548
00:22:31,475 --> 00:22:33,894
- Standard of care,
that's the guideline
549
00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:38,065
you look to when judging whether
a doctor acted negligently.
550
00:22:38,065 --> 00:22:40,526
And Dr. Croyder
acted no differently
551
00:22:40,526 --> 00:22:43,571
in caring for Mr. Kerry than
any responsible physician
552
00:22:43,571 --> 00:22:44,738
would have.
553
00:22:44,738 --> 00:22:46,949
The fact is nobody
could pin down
554
00:22:46,949 --> 00:22:51,161
this disease two years ago,
and they can't pin it down now.
555
00:22:51,161 --> 00:22:52,997
All we have are theories.
556
00:22:52,997 --> 00:22:55,874
Against these odds, Dr.
Croyder and his staff
557
00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:58,460
worked diligently
to try to find out
558
00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:00,421
what was wrong with Mr. Kerry.
559
00:23:00,421 --> 00:23:02,798
The fact that Dr. Croyder
had read some literature
560
00:23:02,798 --> 00:23:06,176
about a non-traditional
method of treatment in no way
561
00:23:06,176 --> 00:23:08,470
obliged him to
experiment with it,
562
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:10,389
especially when he had
such serious doubts
563
00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:12,516
about its efficacy and safety.
564
00:23:12,516 --> 00:23:14,977
Dr. Croyder is
not an incompetent
565
00:23:14,977 --> 00:23:17,438
or a negligent physician.
566
00:23:17,438 --> 00:23:21,108
He is a kind and caring
doctor who treated
567
00:23:21,108 --> 00:23:23,068
his patients as best he could.
568
00:23:28,532 --> 00:23:30,910
Hey, don't ignore me, man.
569
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:32,453
Hey, I'm a human being.
570
00:23:32,453 --> 00:23:34,371
- How much subterfuge
should we be using here?
571
00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:35,581
Excuse me.
572
00:23:35,581 --> 00:23:36,624
- Can't you pretend
to be husband
573
00:23:36,624 --> 00:23:38,000
and wife looking at paintings?
574
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,627
- You know, I could be
wrong, but somehow I
575
00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:41,920
don't think this woman is
going to be all that interested
576
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,297
in our marital status.
577
00:23:43,297 --> 00:23:44,089
So no subterfuge?
578
00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:46,258
- Mm-mm.
579
00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:47,593
You're Pamela Riesenfelt?
580
00:23:47,593 --> 00:23:49,011
Yes, I am.
581
00:23:49,011 --> 00:23:51,221
- We'd like to talk to
you about Jonah Burgee.
582
00:23:51,221 --> 00:23:52,264
Who are you?
583
00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:53,432
I'm a private investigator.
584
00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:55,017
My name is Jinx Baldesseri.
585
00:23:55,017 --> 00:23:56,101
This is Eli Levinson.
586
00:23:56,101 --> 00:23:56,936
He's an attorney.
587
00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:58,312
Hi.
588
00:23:58,312 --> 00:23:59,938
- I really have nothing
to say about Jonah.
589
00:23:59,938 --> 00:24:02,066
And if that's what you're
here to talk to me about,
590
00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:03,776
I'd like to ask you to leave.
591
00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:05,402
You don't want to talk to us?
592
00:24:05,402 --> 00:24:07,029
- No, I don't want
to talk to you.
593
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:08,530
- If I get a subpoena
issued, you'll
594
00:24:08,530 --> 00:24:10,032
have to testify in court.
595
00:24:10,032 --> 00:24:11,700
If you talk to us, we may
find there's no reason
596
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:13,202
to put you through that.
597
00:24:13,202 --> 00:24:15,496
- Look, I don't know
anything about Gail's death.
598
00:24:15,496 --> 00:24:17,247
I'm sure you don't.
599
00:24:17,247 --> 00:24:19,249
What I'm looking for is just a
little background information.
600
00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:20,876
- What kind of
background information?
601
00:24:20,876 --> 00:24:22,252
[sighs]
602
00:24:22,252 --> 00:24:23,837
- What kind of shape
was Jonah's marriage in?
603
00:24:23,837 --> 00:24:25,923
I don't know what that means.
604
00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:27,800
- Was he planning on
getting a divorce?
605
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,385
I wouldn't know.
606
00:24:29,385 --> 00:24:31,804
- How long had the two of
you been sleeping together
607
00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:33,347
when his wife was murdered?
608
00:24:33,347 --> 00:24:35,182
- I can't believe
you're asking me that.
609
00:24:35,182 --> 00:24:38,435
- That 1993 Jaguar you're
driving is registered to him.
610
00:24:38,435 --> 00:24:41,605
If you are trying to hide the
nature of your relationship,
611
00:24:41,605 --> 00:24:44,817
you're not doing
a very good job.
612
00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:47,319
This discussion is over.
613
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:48,862
I want you both to leave.
614
00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:50,906
- This is a murder
trial, Ms. Riesenfelt.
615
00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:54,284
There are no secrets anymore.
616
00:24:54,284 --> 00:24:55,160
Come on.
617
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,418
Be seated.
618
00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:03,836
- Your Honor, at this
time, defense would like
619
00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:05,295
to call Philomena Bannister.
620
00:25:05,295 --> 00:25:06,964
- Ms. Mitchell,
where's your client?
621
00:25:06,964 --> 00:25:08,882
Your Honor, I apologize.
622
00:25:08,882 --> 00:25:10,759
She said she'd be right back.
623
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:13,887
- (WHISPERING) Your Honor,
she's in your chambers.
624
00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:16,515
She's what?
625
00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:17,516
Are you kidding?
626
00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:18,350
Mm.
627
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:19,143
I love the fit.
628
00:25:19,143 --> 00:25:19,977
I love the color.
629
00:25:19,977 --> 00:25:21,353
I love the material.
630
00:25:21,353 --> 00:25:23,772
- And I'll bet you love
unicorns, don't you?
631
00:25:23,772 --> 00:25:25,941
Yvonne, I love those unicorns.
632
00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:27,609
- Excuse me, Your
Honor, case closed.
633
00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:29,278
We got exhibit A right here.
634
00:25:29,278 --> 00:25:31,238
- Your Honor, I want this
excluded from the proceedings.
635
00:25:31,238 --> 00:25:32,865
I do not want the
jury told about this.
636
00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:34,450
I'll just be one minute.
637
00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:36,076
- Never mind telling the jury.
Just bring them in here.
638
00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:37,745
Let them take a
look for themselves.
639
00:25:37,745 --> 00:25:39,163
- There will be no mention
of this in front of the jury.
640
00:25:39,163 --> 00:25:40,205
[honking]
641
00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:41,915
There's the bargain signal.
642
00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:44,001
This must be your lucky day,
Philomena, because right now--
643
00:25:44,001 --> 00:25:45,711
- I want everyone back
in that courtroom.
644
00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,921
I want to continue this
trial in an orderly fashion.
645
00:25:47,921 --> 00:25:49,673
Now, get out of my chambers.
646
00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:57,473
- Ms. Bannister, would
you tell the court
647
00:25:57,473 --> 00:25:59,600
if you are currently in
therapy for treatment
648
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,852
of an obsessive
compulsive disorder?
649
00:26:01,852 --> 00:26:03,270
Yes, I am.
650
00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:05,773
- And it's a fact, is it
not, that when you talk
651
00:26:05,773 --> 00:26:08,025
to your husband and your
therapist and others
652
00:26:08,025 --> 00:26:11,111
about shopping via this
television channel,
653
00:26:11,111 --> 00:26:14,406
you didn't just refer to
the merchandise you ordered?
654
00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:16,325
- Oh, there's more to
it than the merchandise.
655
00:26:16,325 --> 00:26:17,743
I acknowledge that.
656
00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:22,039
- You referred to each
of on air hosts by name?
657
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:25,417
You referred to feeling a
sense of physical exhilaration
658
00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:27,878
each time they announced
a price reduction
659
00:26:27,878 --> 00:26:30,422
by tooting a bicycle horn.
660
00:26:30,422 --> 00:26:34,051
- I know I'm a
compulsive shopper.
661
00:26:34,051 --> 00:26:35,761
And I know that
some people might
662
00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:39,181
find me ridiculous or pathetic.
663
00:26:39,181 --> 00:26:41,683
But no matter what
my therapist says,
664
00:26:41,683 --> 00:26:45,562
I don't shop because there's
something missing in my life
665
00:26:45,562 --> 00:26:51,610
or because I'm secretly
angry with my husband.
666
00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:53,320
I'm sorry, Howard.
667
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,906
I look at your face and I know
you're trying so hard to do
668
00:26:55,906 --> 00:26:58,617
what you think is best for us.
669
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:04,748
I shop because I love to.
670
00:27:04,748 --> 00:27:07,835
I love everything about it.
671
00:27:07,835 --> 00:27:11,338
I love picking up the phone
and placing the order.
672
00:27:11,338 --> 00:27:13,674
I love standing at my
window every morning
673
00:27:13,674 --> 00:27:16,885
watching the truck
arrive right on schedule,
674
00:27:16,885 --> 00:27:18,595
asking the delivery
man about his kids
675
00:27:18,595 --> 00:27:21,181
while I sign for my package.
676
00:27:21,181 --> 00:27:25,644
I love slicing open the packing
tape and opening the box
677
00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:28,730
and seeing what I got new today.
678
00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:30,399
I'm a housewife.
679
00:27:30,399 --> 00:27:33,110
I've been married to the
same man for 20 years,
680
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:35,279
lived in the same house for 15.
681
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:38,115
The basics of my life don't
change very much from day
682
00:27:38,115 --> 00:27:41,577
to day, and I don't expect
they ever will, but that's OK.
683
00:27:41,577 --> 00:27:44,204
I'm not looking for
a lot of excitement.
684
00:27:44,204 --> 00:27:47,291
So I call the American
Buying Network.
685
00:27:50,127 --> 00:27:52,379
And I chat with the hosts.
686
00:27:52,379 --> 00:27:55,757
And then I buy something,
maybe a piece of jewelry
687
00:27:55,757 --> 00:27:59,511
or a blouse or even something
silly like a ceramic duck.
688
00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:01,805
But at that moment--
689
00:28:01,805 --> 00:28:04,266
I feel sustained--
690
00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:07,102
I feel happy--
691
00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:08,812
I have something new.
692
00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:15,652
Please be seated.
693
00:28:23,619 --> 00:28:25,120
- The clerk will
read the verdict.
694
00:28:28,290 --> 00:28:31,627
- In the matter of Kerry versus
the United States of America,
695
00:28:31,627 --> 00:28:34,504
the jury finds
for the defendant.
696
00:28:34,504 --> 00:28:36,840
- Jury is dismissed with
the thanks of the court.
697
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,091
We are adjourned.
698
00:28:38,091 --> 00:28:39,551
[gavel thuds]
699
00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:41,428
I'm sorry, David.
700
00:28:41,428 --> 00:28:43,472
- Well, we gave
it a shot, right?
701
00:28:43,472 --> 00:28:46,475
We'll appeal.
702
00:28:46,475 --> 00:28:48,268
Right.
703
00:28:48,268 --> 00:28:50,479
- Come on, why don't you
let me give you a ride home?
704
00:28:50,479 --> 00:28:51,939
No, I can get home by myself.
705
00:28:51,939 --> 00:28:54,858
I think I'll just sit
here for a little while.
706
00:28:54,858 --> 00:28:56,151
Sure?
707
00:28:56,151 --> 00:28:58,612
Yeah.
708
00:28:58,612 --> 00:28:59,446
OK.
709
00:29:11,959 --> 00:29:13,335
I'd like to see Eli Levinson.
710
00:29:13,335 --> 00:29:14,753
You are?
711
00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:15,921
- Jonah Burgee.
- Do you have an appointment?
712
00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:17,130
- No, I don't have
an appointment.
713
00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:18,757
- [scoffs]
- What's with the attitude?
714
00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:20,676
I just asked a question.
715
00:29:20,676 --> 00:29:22,219
I don't have an appointment.
716
00:29:22,219 --> 00:29:24,054
- Well, then how did
you get past reception?
717
00:29:24,054 --> 00:29:25,389
I lied.
718
00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:26,848
Oh.
719
00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:30,310
Let me see if Eli's available.
720
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:31,395
- Yeah?
- Eli?
721
00:29:31,395 --> 00:29:32,646
What?
722
00:29:32,646 --> 00:29:34,272
- Yeah, there's a
Jonah Burgee here.
723
00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:35,732
What does he want?
724
00:29:35,732 --> 00:29:36,858
I have no idea.
725
00:29:36,858 --> 00:29:37,651
Yeah.
726
00:29:37,651 --> 00:29:38,443
Send him in.
727
00:29:38,443 --> 00:29:40,278
OK.
728
00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:41,321
Come right this way.
729
00:29:49,955 --> 00:29:51,498
- What can I do for
you, Mr. Burgee?
730
00:29:51,498 --> 00:29:54,501
- You can honor a
very simple request.
731
00:29:54,501 --> 00:29:56,878
If you're interested
in me, you come to me.
732
00:29:56,878 --> 00:29:59,881
Don't violate the
privacy of other people.
733
00:29:59,881 --> 00:30:02,467
- Are you willing to
answer a few questions?
734
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:05,137
What is it that you
would like to know?
735
00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:07,556
- How long have you been going
out with Pamela Riesenfelt?
736
00:30:07,556 --> 00:30:09,307
- I don't know what
you mean by going out.
737
00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:11,018
We've been friends
for a number of years.
738
00:30:11,018 --> 00:30:12,602
- Were the two of
you having an affair
739
00:30:12,602 --> 00:30:13,979
while your wife was alive?
740
00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:15,647
- I assume that the
import of that question
741
00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:17,899
is that if we were,
I killed my wife.
742
00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:19,317
- I'm just trying
to get a picture
743
00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:20,652
of who everyone is in all this.
744
00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:22,237
[chuckles]
745
00:30:22,237 --> 00:30:23,655
- You know, whenever I've
had dealings with lawyers,
746
00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:26,867
I'm always struck by how
utterly amoral they are.
747
00:30:26,867 --> 00:30:27,951
Really?
748
00:30:27,951 --> 00:30:29,453
- You're willing
to go into court
749
00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:31,955
and spread absolute falsehoods.
750
00:30:31,955 --> 00:30:33,707
You're willing to impugn me.
751
00:30:33,707 --> 00:30:36,001
You're willing to encroach on
the lives of innocent people,
752
00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:38,670
not because you actually think
that I'm guilty of anything,
753
00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:41,006
but as a way of manufacturing
doubt about whether or not
754
00:30:41,006 --> 00:30:42,591
your client is guilty.
755
00:30:42,591 --> 00:30:44,885
It's amazing you're totally
unconcerned with what
756
00:30:44,885 --> 00:30:46,178
actually happened.
757
00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:47,763
- I don't know what
actually happened.
758
00:30:47,763 --> 00:30:50,223
OK.
759
00:30:50,223 --> 00:30:52,726
I'm not going to answer
any more questions.
760
00:30:52,726 --> 00:30:54,853
If I'm called to the
stand, I'll testify,
761
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:58,065
but I don't want to answer any
more questions voluntarily.
762
00:30:58,065 --> 00:31:01,068
I find what you're
doing deeply offensive,
763
00:31:01,068 --> 00:31:02,736
and I'm not going to
cooperate with you.
764
00:31:02,736 --> 00:31:05,322
- I didn't really
expect that you would.
765
00:31:05,322 --> 00:31:08,533
- By the way, someone told
me that you're a patient
766
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:12,245
of Max Binderman's.
767
00:31:12,245 --> 00:31:13,872
What someone was that?
768
00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:15,999
I don't know who it was.
769
00:31:15,999 --> 00:31:19,044
They said that you had a major
breakdown a couple of years ago
770
00:31:19,044 --> 00:31:21,004
and that you've been
under Max's care.
771
00:31:21,004 --> 00:31:23,423
The reason I mention it
is that Max and I were
772
00:31:23,423 --> 00:31:24,966
in graduate school together.
773
00:31:24,966 --> 00:31:26,843
- I didn't realize you
were trained in psychology.
774
00:31:26,843 --> 00:31:28,553
- One of my doctorates
is in psychology.
775
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,222
I just never practiced.
776
00:31:30,222 --> 00:31:32,099
- Uh-huh.
777
00:31:32,099 --> 00:31:35,060
- Anyway, say hi to Max for me--
778
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:36,061
when you talk to him.
779
00:31:42,275 --> 00:31:46,822
- Compulsive shopping disorder,
it sounds like a joke.
780
00:31:46,822 --> 00:31:50,200
I assure you, ladies and
gentlemen, to those facing
781
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,202
bankruptcy, it is no joke.
782
00:31:52,202 --> 00:31:55,664
An addiction to shopping is
just like any other addiction.
783
00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:59,793
It robs you of your free will,
and it takes over your life.
784
00:31:59,793 --> 00:32:03,296
This particular addiction is
a little different, though.
785
00:32:03,296 --> 00:32:06,133
This addiction is
actively encouraged
786
00:32:06,133 --> 00:32:09,094
by a powerful
broadcast network that
787
00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:11,471
lures in people like Philomena.
788
00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:14,641
They get them and they
don't let them go.
789
00:32:14,641 --> 00:32:18,770
Gerard Atkins claims he is not
familiar with this disorder.
790
00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:21,982
The truth is he is all
too familiar with it.
791
00:32:21,982 --> 00:32:24,776
He's made a fortune
exploiting it.
792
00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:28,155
The American Buying
Network is designed
793
00:32:28,155 --> 00:32:31,032
to extract every dime
they can from people
794
00:32:31,032 --> 00:32:32,742
like Philomena Bannister.
795
00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:36,288
They came into her home, they
pretended to be her friend,
796
00:32:36,288 --> 00:32:39,791
and then they systematically
drove both her and her husband
797
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:43,086
to the brink of financial ruin.
798
00:32:43,086 --> 00:32:48,175
We ask that damages be assessed
in the amount of half a million
799
00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:52,929
dollars to make these two whole
and to tell this corporation
800
00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:57,976
its behavior isn't justified by
the fact that it made the sale.
801
00:33:04,441 --> 00:33:10,322
- Philomena Bannister
loves to shop.
802
00:33:10,322 --> 00:33:12,616
We all heard her testimony.
803
00:33:12,616 --> 00:33:15,660
Howard Bannister thinks
his wife shops too much.
804
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:17,537
Do I think she shops too much?
805
00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:19,289
Uh, maybe I do.
806
00:33:19,289 --> 00:33:21,124
But the truth is
whatever anybody thinks
807
00:33:21,124 --> 00:33:23,460
about how much Philomena
Bannister shops,
808
00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:25,212
it's none of anybody's business.
809
00:33:25,212 --> 00:33:28,048
And if you doubt that,
ask yourselves this,
810
00:33:28,048 --> 00:33:31,051
is it anybody's business
how much you shop?
811
00:33:31,051 --> 00:33:34,221
Philomena Bannister is seeing
a therapist who says she has
812
00:33:34,221 --> 00:33:36,056
shopping compulsion disorder.
813
00:33:36,056 --> 00:33:38,391
Now, the fact is
there's no listing
814
00:33:38,391 --> 00:33:39,809
for this disorder
in the American
815
00:33:39,809 --> 00:33:42,395
Psychiatric Association's
Diagnostic Manual.
816
00:33:42,395 --> 00:33:44,147
Howard Bannister
couldn't tell us
817
00:33:44,147 --> 00:33:47,525
one identifying characteristic,
yet he expected the American
818
00:33:47,525 --> 00:33:50,904
Buying Network to
take his word for it
819
00:33:50,904 --> 00:33:53,323
and act in the capacity
of a surrogate parent
820
00:33:53,323 --> 00:33:57,118
by refusing to sell to this
woman what she asked to buy.
821
00:33:57,118 --> 00:33:59,579
Was the American Buying
Network negligent?
822
00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:00,997
No.
823
00:34:00,997 --> 00:34:03,959
No, the American Buying
Network is a business,
824
00:34:03,959 --> 00:34:06,294
and they do make a
profit, but that does not
825
00:34:06,294 --> 00:34:08,546
make them responsible
for the personal choices
826
00:34:08,546 --> 00:34:10,048
of their customers.
827
00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:11,800
It does not make it their
responsibility to decide
828
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,927
who can and cannot shop.
829
00:34:13,927 --> 00:34:16,388
And frankly, ladies
and gentlemen, I'm glad
830
00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:18,765
they don't have that power.
831
00:34:18,765 --> 00:34:21,851
I'm glad that each
and every one of us
832
00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:23,645
is free to make our own choices.
833
00:34:23,645 --> 00:34:27,732
Because you see, the minute we
make someone else responsible,
834
00:34:27,732 --> 00:34:29,776
we give our freedom away.
835
00:34:36,241 --> 00:34:37,450
Hi.
836
00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:38,618
Hi, Sandy.
837
00:34:38,618 --> 00:34:39,786
Hi, ma.
838
00:34:39,786 --> 00:34:41,288
- I got you some
reading material.
839
00:34:41,288 --> 00:34:43,331
I didn't really know what
your current tastes are,
840
00:34:43,331 --> 00:34:44,749
so I picked out
some stuff that I
841
00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:47,460
liked, Larry McMurtry,
Jim Harrison,
842
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:48,586
some mysteries, magazines.
843
00:34:48,586 --> 00:34:50,505
Dad, it's a little too much.
844
00:34:50,505 --> 00:34:53,049
- Pick out what you like and
I'll bring the rest back.
845
00:34:53,049 --> 00:34:54,301
No, it's all too much.
846
00:34:54,301 --> 00:34:55,927
There's too much coming in.
847
00:34:55,927 --> 00:34:59,389
I can't keep track of other
people's stories and plots
848
00:34:59,389 --> 00:35:03,143
and characters and some
magazine article about something
849
00:35:03,143 --> 00:35:05,312
different and--
and advertisements.
850
00:35:05,312 --> 00:35:08,398
I can't keep track of all that.
851
00:35:08,398 --> 00:35:09,983
OK.
852
00:35:09,983 --> 00:35:11,651
- Is there something that
we need to discuss today?
853
00:35:11,651 --> 00:35:13,320
- There are a couple of
things I wanted to ask you.
854
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,571
Come on, Ed, let's go.
855
00:35:14,571 --> 00:35:16,197
Is it necessary that we go?
856
00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:18,241
Sandy, do you mind if we stay?
857
00:35:18,241 --> 00:35:19,075
Do what you want.
858
00:35:23,204 --> 00:35:25,749
What do you want to ask me?
859
00:35:25,749 --> 00:35:27,375
- Did you ever meet
Gail's husband?
860
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:28,877
No.
861
00:35:28,877 --> 00:35:30,712
- He was never in the
office when you were there?
862
00:35:30,712 --> 00:35:32,130
- I don't know
what he looks like.
863
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:33,465
- So you have no way of
knowing whether or not
864
00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:35,300
he was in the office
when you were there?
865
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,135
Right.
866
00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:38,261
OK.
867
00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:39,929
Is that it?
868
00:35:39,929 --> 00:35:41,931
- Sandy-- can you tell me
where you were in the morning
869
00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:43,683
Gayle was killed?
870
00:35:43,683 --> 00:35:44,934
Yeah, I was in my room.
871
00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:46,227
- Can you think of
anybody who might
872
00:35:46,227 --> 00:35:47,771
have seen you in your room?
873
00:35:47,771 --> 00:35:48,605
No.
874
00:35:48,605 --> 00:35:49,606
No one came by?
875
00:35:49,606 --> 00:35:50,482
No.
876
00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:52,859
Did you go out to eat?
877
00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:54,152
OK.
878
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:56,237
Next week, we start
picking the jury.
879
00:35:56,237 --> 00:35:58,156
Then we go to trial.
880
00:35:58,156 --> 00:35:59,949
Right.
881
00:35:59,949 --> 00:36:02,452
- You need clothes
for your trial.
882
00:36:02,452 --> 00:36:03,787
Do you have clothes?
883
00:36:03,787 --> 00:36:05,789
Yeah.
884
00:36:05,789 --> 00:36:07,749
Back in your room?
885
00:36:07,749 --> 00:36:08,792
Yeah.
886
00:36:08,792 --> 00:36:10,460
We'll go get them.
887
00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:12,879
- Wait, if I'm found guilty,
they won't keep me here, right?
888
00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:14,964
- Don't be thinking
about being found guilty.
889
00:36:14,964 --> 00:36:17,342
- Well, excuse me, I'm sorry,
but I am thinking about it.
890
00:36:17,342 --> 00:36:19,052
And the question I
have is whether or not
891
00:36:19,052 --> 00:36:22,514
they're going to keep me here
or move me someplace else.
892
00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:24,015
- They'll move you
someplace else.
893
00:36:24,015 --> 00:36:24,849
OK.
894
00:36:30,772 --> 00:36:31,648
OK, are you done?
895
00:36:31,648 --> 00:36:33,858
Let's go.
896
00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:35,985
- So nobody smokes
around here, huh?
897
00:36:35,985 --> 00:36:37,195
- No, I don't--
898
00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:38,154
I don't think
anyone here smokes.
899
00:36:38,154 --> 00:36:39,864
Oh.
900
00:36:39,864 --> 00:36:41,366
- We had a temp who used to
blow reefer in the stairwell.
901
00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:43,284
Other than that, I don't
think anybody smokes.
902
00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:45,120
- So if I want to smoke, I
have to go up with the elevator
903
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,454
to the ladies room, huh?
904
00:36:46,454 --> 00:36:47,956
- Yeah, unless you
want to risk incurring
905
00:36:47,956 --> 00:36:49,457
the wrath of your coworkers.
906
00:36:49,457 --> 00:36:51,084
- Damn, if there was a
nun pounding on the door,
907
00:36:51,084 --> 00:36:52,544
I'd feel like I was right
back in high school.
908
00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:53,712
Let me help you with that.
909
00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:54,879
- Uh, you're Jane
Halliday, right?
910
00:36:54,879 --> 00:36:55,922
Yes.
911
00:36:55,922 --> 00:36:57,257
Uh, you have a call, line two.
912
00:36:57,257 --> 00:36:58,383
Here.
913
00:36:58,383 --> 00:36:59,384
Thank you.
914
00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:00,218
Hello?
915
00:37:03,096 --> 00:37:05,640
I'll be down in front
of the building.
916
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,183
What's wrong?
917
00:37:07,183 --> 00:37:11,062
- My client's about to jump
off a freeway overpass.
918
00:37:11,062 --> 00:37:12,605
Ooh!
919
00:37:12,605 --> 00:37:15,191
[chatter]
920
00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:21,030
[tires screeching]
921
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:22,240
How long has he been there?
922
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,742
About an hour.
923
00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:25,076
We can't get close to
him, but maybe you could.
924
00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:25,910
David!
925
00:37:28,538 --> 00:37:31,583
David-- I'm coming over there.
926
00:37:41,426 --> 00:37:42,302
It's all right.
927
00:37:53,688 --> 00:37:57,525
I'm just-- I'm just
coming a little closer.
928
00:37:57,525 --> 00:38:00,320
I'm just going to
sit right here.
929
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,154
OK?
930
00:38:07,494 --> 00:38:10,538
- They made me beg
like one of those guys
931
00:38:10,538 --> 00:38:13,041
with the signs that stands
by the freeway entrance.
932
00:38:13,041 --> 00:38:15,627
- David, you never asked for
anything you didn't deserve.
933
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:17,128
- You know, when I
was 24 years old,
934
00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:20,340
I was the youngest staff
sergeant at Fort Sill.
935
00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:22,509
I was responsible for 40 men.
936
00:38:22,509 --> 00:38:26,346
I led my men into battle and I
distinguished myself in combat.
937
00:38:26,346 --> 00:38:28,097
- I've already filed
a notice of appeals.
938
00:38:28,097 --> 00:38:29,516
I intend to pursue this.
939
00:38:29,516 --> 00:38:32,018
I'll never be a soldier again.
940
00:38:32,018 --> 00:38:34,395
I'll never get my
wife back again.
941
00:38:34,395 --> 00:38:36,439
I'll never be able to
walk up a flight of stairs
942
00:38:36,439 --> 00:38:38,483
without having to sit down!
943
00:38:38,483 --> 00:38:40,818
- That's no reason
to end your life.
944
00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:42,529
[chuckles]
945
00:38:42,529 --> 00:38:45,907
- Are you going to give me some
article of religious faith?
946
00:38:45,907 --> 00:38:48,785
Are you going to quote
me some scripture?
947
00:38:48,785 --> 00:38:51,412
I can if you want me to.
948
00:38:51,412 --> 00:38:53,122
Sure.
949
00:38:53,122 --> 00:38:56,876
You tell me what the
Bible says I should do.
950
00:38:56,876 --> 00:39:00,964
- The Bible says,
wait for the Lord,
951
00:39:00,964 --> 00:39:03,591
be strong and wait for the Lord.
952
00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:06,678
If God is for us, who
shall be against us?
953
00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:10,807
Who shall separate us
from the love of Christ?
954
00:39:10,807 --> 00:39:13,935
And that does it for you, huh?
955
00:39:13,935 --> 00:39:16,312
Praying does it for me.
956
00:39:16,312 --> 00:39:21,651
When I feel confused
or depressed, I pray.
957
00:39:21,651 --> 00:39:23,069
I ask God to guide me.
958
00:39:23,069 --> 00:39:24,487
I ask him to show me the way.
959
00:39:24,487 --> 00:39:26,322
- Well, I asked God to
guide me, but I haven't
960
00:39:26,322 --> 00:39:28,074
heard back from Him yet.
961
00:39:28,074 --> 00:39:31,953
- You don't know any more than
I know what the future holds.
962
00:39:31,953 --> 00:39:35,915
You could find things that make
you grateful for every year
963
00:39:35,915 --> 00:39:37,667
of life you're given.
964
00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:39,919
Is this God talking?
965
00:39:39,919 --> 00:39:41,880
No, it's me talking.
966
00:39:48,052 --> 00:39:52,932
David, I want you to take my
hand and come down from here.
967
00:39:52,932 --> 00:39:54,601
I want you to take my hand.
968
00:40:02,567 --> 00:40:04,902
- I just want to have
someone care about me.
969
00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:06,863
Stay ready.
970
00:40:06,863 --> 00:40:10,783
- You have someone
who cares about you.
971
00:40:10,783 --> 00:40:11,618
You have me.
972
00:40:20,335 --> 00:40:21,961
- Has the jury
reached a verdict?
973
00:40:21,961 --> 00:40:23,212
We have, Your Honor.
974
00:40:23,212 --> 00:40:24,839
What say you?
975
00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:27,175
- In the matter of Bannister
versus the American Buying
976
00:40:27,175 --> 00:40:29,886
Network, we find
for the defendant.
977
00:40:29,886 --> 00:40:32,096
- The jury is dismissed with
the thanks of the court.
978
00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:33,473
We are adjourned.
979
00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:37,352
[chatter]
980
00:40:38,269 --> 00:40:39,395
Don't think this is over.
981
00:40:39,395 --> 00:40:41,147
I'll appeal.
982
00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:42,857
- Mr. Bannister, Mrs. Bannister,
I'd like to discuss an idea
983
00:40:42,857 --> 00:40:44,776
I had.
Is there someplace we can talk?
984
00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:45,610
Sure.
985
00:40:50,907 --> 00:40:52,241
What are you proposing?
986
00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:53,493
We're proposing a job.
987
00:40:53,493 --> 00:40:54,869
What?
988
00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:56,871
- I was watching you
testify, Mrs. Bannister,
989
00:40:56,871 --> 00:40:59,666
and I wasn't visualizing
you on the witness stand.
990
00:40:59,666 --> 00:41:01,834
I was visualizing
you being broadcast
991
00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:04,253
into 43 million homes.
992
00:41:04,253 --> 00:41:05,630
What are you talking about?
993
00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:07,548
- I'm talking about
offering you a position
994
00:41:07,548 --> 00:41:10,593
at the American Buying Network
as an on-air product host.
995
00:41:10,593 --> 00:41:11,552
Oh, no.
996
00:41:11,552 --> 00:41:13,304
We have the technology.
997
00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:14,430
What we don't want to lose is
the humanity, and that's you,
998
00:41:14,430 --> 00:41:15,556
Mrs. Bannister.
999
00:41:15,556 --> 00:41:16,974
That's me?
1000
00:41:16,974 --> 00:41:18,309
- I believe you embody
all the qualities that
1001
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:19,936
will keep us grounded,
all the qualities
1002
00:41:19,936 --> 00:41:21,646
our customers can relate to.
1003
00:41:21,646 --> 00:41:24,732
I believe you are the American
Buying Network customer.
1004
00:41:24,732 --> 00:41:26,275
Really?
1005
00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:27,777
- We'd be willing to
negotiate a substantial salary
1006
00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:29,028
plus a signing bonus.
1007
00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:30,405
Plus, you forgive the debt?
1008
00:41:30,405 --> 00:41:31,781
Plus, we'll forgive the debt.
1009
00:41:31,781 --> 00:41:33,783
- And you agree not
to sell her anything?
1010
00:41:33,783 --> 00:41:35,618
Done.
1011
00:41:35,618 --> 00:41:37,787
- Gosh, I don't
know what to say.
1012
00:41:37,787 --> 00:41:39,038
Say yes.
1013
00:41:39,038 --> 00:41:40,707
- Now, wait a minute,
wait a minute,
1014
00:41:40,707 --> 00:41:42,125
I'm going to stop being a
lawyer here just for a second
1015
00:41:42,125 --> 00:41:43,793
and ask a question just
as someone who's watched
1016
00:41:43,793 --> 00:41:45,169
you throughout the trial.
1017
00:41:45,169 --> 00:41:46,671
Is it a good idea for
you to be surrounded
1018
00:41:46,671 --> 00:41:48,131
by this much temptation?
1019
00:41:48,131 --> 00:41:50,466
- Oh, Mr. Rollins, I'm
surrounded by temptation
1020
00:41:50,466 --> 00:41:52,176
every day of my life.
1021
00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:53,553
I'm in therapy.
1022
00:41:53,553 --> 00:41:55,596
I realize the effect
my extravagances
1023
00:41:55,596 --> 00:41:57,140
have had on my husband.
1024
00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:59,183
And I know that in order
for our marriage to survive,
1025
00:41:59,183 --> 00:42:00,977
I must learn to control them.
1026
00:42:00,977 --> 00:42:05,773
So if I succumb to
temptation, I will quit.
1027
00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:06,983
OK.
1028
00:42:06,983 --> 00:42:07,984
- But right now,
I'm going to go home
1029
00:42:07,984 --> 00:42:09,277
and figure out what to wear.
1030
00:42:09,277 --> 00:42:10,486
- Oh, we'll give you
a help with that.
1031
00:42:10,486 --> 00:42:11,362
We'll give you a
complete orientation
1032
00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:12,363
before we go on the air.
1033
00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:14,323
Wonderful!
1034
00:42:14,323 --> 00:42:17,535
- I believe that you and I
are going to have a lot of
1035
00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:20,538
fun together.
1036
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:23,082
[knocking on door]
1037
00:42:23,082 --> 00:42:24,959
- I heard there was a
little excitement today.
1038
00:42:24,959 --> 00:42:27,211
- Well, I guess you
could call it that.
1039
00:42:27,211 --> 00:42:29,464
- And I'm glad to
hear he's all right.
1040
00:42:29,464 --> 00:42:31,048
He's alive.
1041
00:42:31,048 --> 00:42:32,884
I wouldn't say he's all right.
1042
00:42:32,884 --> 00:42:34,510
Let me get to the point.
1043
00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:36,804
I understand you intend to
move forward with an appeal.
1044
00:42:36,804 --> 00:42:38,347
I'd like to see if
we can avoid that.
1045
00:42:38,347 --> 00:42:40,683
What do you propose?
1046
00:42:40,683 --> 00:42:46,230
- $250,000, full
and final payment.
1047
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:48,816
The only condition being
absolute confidentiality.
1048
00:42:48,816 --> 00:42:51,778
- Suicidal veterans make
for bad press, don't they?
1049
00:42:51,778 --> 00:42:54,197
- As do overly eager young
attorneys with a great deal
1050
00:42:54,197 --> 00:42:55,782
of time on their hands.
1051
00:42:55,782 --> 00:42:58,576
- Mr. Hygate, just so you
know, I'm not overly eager
1052
00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:00,369
and I don't have a lot
of time on my hands.
1053
00:43:00,369 --> 00:43:03,414
What I have is a client
whom I believe in.
1054
00:43:03,414 --> 00:43:05,958
I'm prepared to pursue his
case for as long as necessary
1055
00:43:05,958 --> 00:43:08,461
until he feels he's been
adequately compensated.
1056
00:43:08,461 --> 00:43:10,296
- And I think a quarter
of a million dollars
1057
00:43:10,296 --> 00:43:12,757
qualifies, wouldn't you?
1058
00:43:12,757 --> 00:43:14,967
I'll talk to my client.
1059
00:43:14,967 --> 00:43:18,179
I appreciate that.
1060
00:43:18,179 --> 00:43:19,680
We'd like this to be over.
1061
00:43:25,061 --> 00:43:29,023
- My God, this is
where he lives?
1062
00:43:29,023 --> 00:43:32,902
[distant yelling]
1063
00:43:37,949 --> 00:43:41,744
- Let's take what there
is to take and go.
1064
00:43:41,744 --> 00:43:44,372
It's like a cell.
1065
00:43:44,372 --> 00:43:47,250
- What I'd like to know is
how he was able to pay for it.
1066
00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:49,961
Cell or no cell, it costs money.
1067
00:43:49,961 --> 00:43:52,713
- I don't know how
he paid for it.
1068
00:43:52,713 --> 00:43:54,257
He wasn't working.
1069
00:43:54,257 --> 00:43:56,134
It's paid for through
the end of the month.
1070
00:43:56,134 --> 00:43:57,468
Where did he get the money?
1071
00:43:57,468 --> 00:43:59,470
- Should we at least
fold his things
1072
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,055
so they don't get all wrinkled?
1073
00:44:01,055 --> 00:44:03,057
- I think we're best off just
buying him something to
1074
00:44:03,057 --> 00:44:04,433
wear, Ed.
1075
00:44:04,433 --> 00:44:06,185
- I know, but he should
hang his things up.
1076
00:44:06,185 --> 00:44:07,478
He's got a closet.
1077
00:44:07,478 --> 00:44:09,021
He's got hangers.
1078
00:44:09,021 --> 00:44:10,940
He should hang his things
up when he takes them
1079
00:44:10,940 --> 00:44:12,900
off so when he puts
them back on again,
1080
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:14,402
they don't get all wrinkled.
1081
00:44:14,402 --> 00:44:16,112
Then he wouldn't
have to send them out
1082
00:44:16,112 --> 00:44:18,531
to be dry cleaned as much, and
they wouldn't look like hell
1083
00:44:18,531 --> 00:44:19,657
when he put them back on.
1084
00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:20,533
Hang them up!
1085
00:44:20,533 --> 00:44:21,868
You get into the habit.
1086
00:44:21,868 --> 00:44:23,578
When you take them
off, you hang them up.
1087
00:44:23,578 --> 00:44:25,538
- Stop talking about
him as though he's
1088
00:44:25,538 --> 00:44:27,164
well, as though he's normal.
1089
00:44:27,164 --> 00:44:28,332
He's not well!
1090
00:44:28,332 --> 00:44:30,710
He's not normal.
1091
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:32,962
OK, assume he's not.
1092
00:44:32,962 --> 00:44:34,463
What should we do, Rae?
1093
00:44:34,463 --> 00:44:35,965
Should we just forget about him?
1094
00:44:35,965 --> 00:44:37,466
Should we write him
off and let him die?
1095
00:44:37,466 --> 00:44:38,759
Is that what you want to do?
1096
00:44:38,759 --> 00:44:40,261
- Folks, you can't
turn on each other.
1097
00:44:40,261 --> 00:44:41,971
- You know, sometimes I
get the feeling that she'd
1098
00:44:41,971 --> 00:44:43,639
just rather be done with him.
1099
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:45,683
I get the feeling that it's
too much trouble, that you'd
1100
00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,351
rather not be bothered.
1101
00:44:47,351 --> 00:44:51,355
- The way he pays for this
room is that I send him money.
1102
00:44:51,355 --> 00:44:52,273
You do?
1103
00:44:52,273 --> 00:44:54,150
Yes.
1104
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:55,985
- So you've known
where he's been.
1105
00:44:55,985 --> 00:44:59,488
- I send a money order
to a post office box.
1106
00:44:59,488 --> 00:45:00,948
I knew he was in LA.
1107
00:45:00,948 --> 00:45:03,284
That's all I knew.
1108
00:45:03,284 --> 00:45:04,785
- Why didn't you
say something, Rae?
1109
00:45:04,785 --> 00:45:06,037
Why didn't you tell me?
1110
00:45:06,037 --> 00:45:07,580
- Because I knew
you'd try to find him.
1111
00:45:07,580 --> 00:45:09,749
- What would have
been wrong with that?
1112
00:45:09,749 --> 00:45:10,917
Didn't you want to find him?
1113
00:45:10,917 --> 00:45:12,293
No!
1114
00:45:12,293 --> 00:45:13,753
No, I wanted him to have
a roof over his head.
1115
00:45:13,753 --> 00:45:15,171
I wanted him not to starve.
1116
00:45:15,171 --> 00:45:18,299
Beyond that, I stopped
wanting anything!
1117
00:45:18,299 --> 00:45:20,426
Oh, God, help me.
1118
00:45:20,426 --> 00:45:22,428
I never wanted to see him again.
1119
00:45:22,428 --> 00:45:24,597
[sobbing]
1120
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:44,784
[theme music]
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