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[exhales sharply]
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- Well, thank you very
much, Mr Garabedian,
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we are interviewing
a number of people,
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and we'll let you
know as soon as we've
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made our final decision.
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- Before I leave, I want to say
two words to you, class action.
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Whether we're talking about
negligently-manufactured
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pacemakers or defective
farm machinery,
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I believe that multiple
plaintiff lawsuits
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will generate heap big moolah.
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And I am just the boy to do it.
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Huh, thank you.
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Thank you.
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- How many more of these
do we have to see today?
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Five more.
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I can't do this.
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You guys hire whoever
you want to hire.
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I just-- I can't
do this anymore.
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Hello?
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Uh, you're?
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Jane Halliday.
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I'm Douglas Brackman.
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This is Ann Kelsey, Jonathan
Rollins, and Arnold Becker.
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Hi.
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Arnold, are you staying?
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- Why don't you tell us a
little bit about yourself?
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I'm from Oklahoma.
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Went to Harvard Law School.
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I clerked for a federal judge
for a year after graduation.
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Following that, I worked in
the district attorney's office
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in Oklahoma City for two years.
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- What made you want
to relocate out here?
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Well, I have family out here.
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Also, I felt I could benefit by
broadening my horizons a bit.
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- Is there any particular area
you'd like to specialize in?
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- At this point
in my career, I'd
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just assume to be guided by
what needs present themselves.
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I'd be happy to do
whatever you need me to do.
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- It says on your
resume that you
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attended Bob Jones University.
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Yes.
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- That's a religious
school, isn't it?
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Yes, it is.
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It's a Christian college.
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- A fundamentalist
Christian college.
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Yes.
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- Are you a
fundamentalist Christian?
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Yes, I am.
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- Well, forgive me for
saying this, but this firm
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seems an unlikely setting for
a fundamentalist Christian
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to want to be in.
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- Perhaps it is, but I made
a decision to pursue a career
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and to work and live in a
more mainstream environment
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than the one I grew up in.
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Your firm is very well regarded
in the legal community,
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and I think I could
benefit from working here.
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And I also think that I
could make a contribution.
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- Miss Halliday,
you might find us
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something of a godless bunch.
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- I think you'll find that
I'm really pretty accepting
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of people, Mr Rollins.
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And I don't think any
of us are godless.
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- Yea, though I walk through the
valley of the shadow of death,
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I will fear no evil,
for thou art with me.
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- Thy rod and thy
staff, they comfort me.
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Thou preparest a table for
me before mine enemies,
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thou anointest my head with oil.
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My cup runneth over.
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Surely, goodness and
mercy shall follow
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me all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the House
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of the Lord forever.
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Amen.
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Well.
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- It was very nice
meeting all of you.
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- And it was nice meeting
you, Ms. Halliday.
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We'll let you know as soon
as we've made our decision.
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Thank you.
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What?
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[theme music]
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[chatter]
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- When is the table going
to be ready, Douglas?
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They said another week.
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Unbelievable.
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Yeah, dust.
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- Everywhere is dust.
- Hi.
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- Is this it?
- Yeah.
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- This renovation is
taking on epic proportions.
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- When are they telling us
now it's going to be done?
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End of the month.
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End of which month?
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- Fellas, could
you hold it down.
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We are going to try to get
some work done around here.
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Folks, if we could
get down to business.
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Interviews are ongoing
for new associates.
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I'd like to have someone
hired by the end of the week,
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if possible.
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- Well, I think it's
safe to say that
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as far as Arnold's concerned,
we ought to be done looking now.
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- I trust that what we witnessed
was momentary infatuation
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and nothing more than that.
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- We'll see all the candidates,
we'll make a decision.
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Like everyone else,
I want whoever
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is best qualified for the job.
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What are you looking at?
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What am I looking at?
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I'm looking at the prize
in the Cracker Jack box.
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I'm looking at
the big brass ring
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and the merry-go-round of life.
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What are you looking at?
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The Bentley Continental R.
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You're getting a Bentley?
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Yes, I am.
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How much?
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List is $275,000.
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- You're spending
$275,000 for a car?
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You think that's excessive?
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[chuckles]
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- Folks, as compelling as this
conversation is, I'd really
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like to get some work done
before the sounds of hammering
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drives me completely crazy.
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- You're running the
meeting, Douglas.
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Run the meeting.
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- Kincaid versus Owens,
Pierce, McIntyre, and Reynolds.
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That's mine.
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Judith Kincaid is suing her law
firm for sexual discrimination
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under Title VII for their
failure to make her a partner.
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- Yeah, but for the
grace of God, go we?
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- There are no female partners
at Owen, Pierce, Douglas.
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Not even one like there is here.
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Can this case be settled?
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- The offers we
received were insulting.
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- Let's try not to get
too much of a reputation
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as a repository for litigious
and embittered females,
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shall we, Ann?
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Moving on.
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- [knock on door]
- Excuse me.
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Eli.
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Is this a bad time?
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No, it's a very good time.
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Everybody, this is my
cousin, Eli Levinson.
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How do you do?
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- Stuart told us
you're involved in that
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case of the-- the social
worker who was killed.
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- The parents of the accused
are all friends of my family,
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I'm out here on their behalf.
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- Well, if there's anything
any of us can do to assist you,
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please let us know.
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Thank you.
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- There's a vacant
office you can use,
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but we're a little shorthanded
in the secretarial department.
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- Oh, please don't
worry about it.
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You're being extremely gracious.
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I'll make my own arrangements
as it concerns a secretary.
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- Do you think $275,000 is
too much to spend on a car?
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I don't know.
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- I bust my ass working,
I'm at the top of my field,
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I have no dependents, who
should own a Bentley, if not me?
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Will it make you happy?
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Yes, it will.
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Then you should own it.
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- A wise man arrives
from the east.
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Nice to meet you, Eli.
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Nice to meet you.
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- You think there's any chance
he'll be glad to see us here?
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- My God, with the
trouble he's in,
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you'd think he'd be
thrilled to see us.
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- I think you should be prepared
for that not to be the case.
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[buzzer]
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Oh, Sandy.
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How are you doing, son?
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Who's that?
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- This is Eli Levinson,
an attorney who's
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come with us from New York.
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What for?
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- Because you need an attorney,
because you have a little bit
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of difficulty here.
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- Do you still have my Beatles
album, Yesterday and Today?
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We probably do.
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I haven't thrown
anything of yours away.
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Certainly, not your
record collection.
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- Well, it's the album
cover with the Beatles
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in butcher coats.
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See I steamed off
the album cover
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it was sold with
because it's got
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the original one underneath.
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It's probably worth a
fair amount of money.
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Should we send for it?
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Do you want to have it here?
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- No, thinking you
should sell it.
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[knock on glass]
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I want to go back now.
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- Hey, Ray, why don't you
give us a minute by ourselves?
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I'll see you soon, son.
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[door closes]
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Sandy?
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[exhales sharply]
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Sandy?
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You don't know me
and I don't know you.
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You've been charged with murder.
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That means you need
to have someone
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paying very close attention
to what happens to you.
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Do you have a cigarette?
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I don't smoke.
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- I didn't ask you
if you smoke, I asked
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you if you had a cigarette.
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[scoffs]
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I don't.
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Sandy, there's a preliminary
hearing scheduled for tomorrow.
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Do you have any problem
with me representing you
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at that hearing?
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No.
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Good.
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Is there anything you can
tell me about the crime
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you're being charged with?
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No.
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OK.
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Can I go now?
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Sure.
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See you tomorrow.
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Yeah, who are you again?
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I'm your lawyer, kid.
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[door shuts]
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- How long did you work
at Owen, Pierce, McIntyre,
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and Reynolds, Ms. Kincaid?
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Eight years.
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I was hired right
out of law school.
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- What were you told about your
performance during that time?
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- I was told that my analytical
skills were first rate, as were
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my briefs, as was my
performance as a litigator,
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as was my ability to
supervise other associates.
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- Were any conversations
held with reference
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to your being made partner?
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Yes.
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In June of 1989, I came
up for partnership review.
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What were you told?
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- I was told that while my work
as an attorney was outstanding,
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my quote unquote "people
skills" needed some adjustment.
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I was told that I could be
abrasive, I could be terse,
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and I was told that I
lacked a sense of humor.
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How did you respond?
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- I said that I
would work on it.
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Did you work on it?
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- Yes, I tried to be
a little more patient
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in dealing with associates.
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Tried to explain
myself more, even tried
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telling an occasional joke.
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- Would you tell the court
what happened the next time you
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came up for partnership review?
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- I was told that I wasn't on
the partnership track, period.
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- Did any of the partners
at Owen, Pierce, McIntyre,
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and Reynolds tell you why?
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Steve Bullock did.
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I went into his office and asked
him, point blank, why I wasn't
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being considered for partner.
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He said, Judith, I'll deny
it if you ever quote me,
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but the truth is,
you're just too butch.
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I have no further questions.
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- Would you say that
one's ability to get along
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with other people was in any way
significant in evaluating one's
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performance as an attorney?
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- I get along with people
just fine, Mr. McCafferty.
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Do you?
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February 10, 1991, an associate
by the name of Robin Michael,
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after working 14 hour days
for two weeks straight,
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was leaving the office at 6:00
PM to attend a hockey game.
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You stopped him at the
door, told him you'll
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have him fired if he went.
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- I was waiting on research
he was responsible for.
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- It couldn't have waited
till the following day?
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No.
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- December 14, 1990, you
initiated a confrontation
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with Bob Connolly, a
senior member at the firm,
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because of an imagined slight.
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And you saw fit to do
so in front of a client.
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It wasn't imagined.
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I felt as though
Bob Connolly had
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addressed me in a
condescending tone of voice.
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- Would you tell
us, Ms. Kincaid,
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what you hoped to accomplish
by initiating a confrontation
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in front of a client?
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- I didn't hope to accomplish
anything, Mr. McCafferty.
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I did it because I
found Mr. Connolly's
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behavior intolerable.
284
00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,000
- Do you fit in at
Owen, Pierce, McIntyre,
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and Reynolds, Miss Kincaid?
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Objection.
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00:13:14,043 --> 00:13:15,837
I wasn't allowed to fit in.
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00:13:15,837 --> 00:13:19,007
I'm not sexy, I'm not
funny, and I don't
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know the secret handshake.
290
00:13:20,967 --> 00:13:23,094
If they didn't want me around,
they should have said so.
291
00:13:23,094 --> 00:13:25,930
- Oh, I think in a manner of
speaking, that's what they did,
292
00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:27,056
isn't it, Ms. Kincaid?
293
00:13:27,056 --> 00:13:29,976
- I put my heart and
soul into that job.
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I held back nothing.
295
00:13:31,853 --> 00:13:34,063
If they weren't prepared to
treat me like a colleague,
296
00:13:34,063 --> 00:13:37,025
they shouldn't have hired
me in the first place.
297
00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:41,904
They shouldn't have stolen
eight years of my life.
298
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I'm finished, your honor.
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[music playing]
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00:14:04,052 --> 00:14:05,887
- Eli.
- Hi, Denise.
301
00:14:05,887 --> 00:14:07,055
- I can't believe it's you.
Get in.
302
00:14:07,055 --> 00:14:08,890
- I can't believe
what you're driving.
303
00:14:08,890 --> 00:14:11,142
- Hey, if you're going
to have a car have a car.
304
00:14:11,142 --> 00:14:12,143
Good to see you.
305
00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:17,106
- So you and Jeffrey
are finished?
306
00:14:17,106 --> 00:14:18,941
Yeah, we're divorced.
307
00:14:18,941 --> 00:14:20,109
I'm sorry to hear that.
308
00:14:20,109 --> 00:14:21,986
- Hey, it's for the
best, anyway, believe me.
309
00:14:21,986 --> 00:14:23,196
We would have killed
each other if we
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would have stayed together.
311
00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,074
How's his health?
312
00:14:26,074 --> 00:14:28,284
- Mentally, he's terminal,
physically, he's fine.
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00:14:28,284 --> 00:14:29,202
[chuckles]
314
00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:30,119
How's Sidney?
315
00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:31,079
Good.
316
00:14:31,079 --> 00:14:31,996
Charlie?
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00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:33,164
Good.
318
00:14:33,164 --> 00:14:35,041
Everybody's just where
they were when you left.
319
00:14:35,041 --> 00:14:37,001
- You know, I think
about guys a lot.
320
00:14:37,001 --> 00:14:37,919
Yeah?
321
00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:39,921
Yeah.
322
00:14:39,921 --> 00:14:42,048
- So what have you been
doing since you are out here?
323
00:14:42,048 --> 00:14:44,217
- Uh, you know, a little bit
of this, a little bit of that.
324
00:14:44,217 --> 00:14:47,053
You know, looking for
a job, meeting people,
325
00:14:47,053 --> 00:14:50,223
going on a lot of blind dates,
checking out the local culture.
326
00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:52,016
- It's not much like
New York, is it?
327
00:14:52,016 --> 00:14:53,893
- It's not anything
like New York.
328
00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:56,104
It's clean, sunny all the time.
329
00:14:56,104 --> 00:14:57,980
Nobody jaywalks.
330
00:14:57,980 --> 00:14:59,982
Nobody knows how to dress.
331
00:14:59,982 --> 00:15:00,983
Other than that, I love it.
332
00:15:00,983 --> 00:15:02,985
[chuckles]
333
00:15:02,985 --> 00:15:04,278
- You want to work for
me while I'm in town?
334
00:15:04,278 --> 00:15:05,947
Do you need somebody?
335
00:15:05,947 --> 00:15:06,989
Yes, I need somebody.
336
00:15:06,989 --> 00:15:09,033
- Oh, I would love
to work for you.
337
00:15:09,033 --> 00:15:10,159
- In addition to
everything else,
338
00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:11,327
I could use some help
getting around town.
339
00:15:11,327 --> 00:15:12,328
What do you mean?
340
00:15:12,328 --> 00:15:13,996
I don't drive.
341
00:15:13,996 --> 00:15:15,164
- What do you mean,
you don't drive?
342
00:15:15,164 --> 00:15:16,999
- I've lived in New
York City all my life.
343
00:15:16,999 --> 00:15:18,167
Denise, I never
learned to drive.
344
00:15:18,167 --> 00:15:20,044
I'll be your driver.
345
00:15:20,044 --> 00:15:21,212
Great.
346
00:15:21,212 --> 00:15:23,131
- You know, you
don't know how much
347
00:15:23,131 --> 00:15:25,258
easier it is to get around out
here than it is in New York.
348
00:15:25,258 --> 00:15:27,009
I mean, it hardly ever rains.
349
00:15:27,009 --> 00:15:29,178
You never ever have
to fight for a cab.
350
00:15:29,178 --> 00:15:31,139
People are courteous.
They're more relaxed, you know.
351
00:15:31,139 --> 00:15:33,099
They're not always trying
to kill each other.
352
00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:36,936
[music playing]
353
00:15:37,228 --> 00:15:39,105
What are you looking at?
354
00:15:39,105 --> 00:15:43,109
- I'm looking at you, and
I'm liking what I see.
355
00:15:43,109 --> 00:15:44,026
Oh, really?
356
00:15:44,026 --> 00:15:45,069
That's right.
357
00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:46,195
Give me your telephone number.
358
00:15:46,195 --> 00:15:47,238
Drop dead.
359
00:15:47,238 --> 00:15:49,031
Give me your telephone number.
360
00:15:49,031 --> 00:15:49,365
Let's go.
361
00:15:49,365 --> 00:15:50,283
Come on.
362
00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:56,247
- Court will come to order,
Judge Shays presiding.
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00:16:00,251 --> 00:16:03,212
Be seated.
364
00:16:03,212 --> 00:16:05,131
People versus Sandy Morrison.
365
00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:07,300
- Thomas Mullaney for the
prosecution, your honor.
366
00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,302
The defendant is
charged under Section
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00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:12,221
189 of the California
Penal Code with murder
368
00:16:12,221 --> 00:16:13,347
in the first degree.
369
00:16:13,347 --> 00:16:15,016
- My name is Eli
Levinson, your honor.
370
00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:16,100
I'm an attorney
licensed to practice
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00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:17,351
in the state of New York.
372
00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:20,146
My appearance on Mr. Morrison's
behalf is pro hac vice.
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00:16:20,146 --> 00:16:23,065
- Do you have supporting papers
for a pro hac vice appearance?
374
00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:23,357
I do.
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00:16:23,357 --> 00:16:24,275
Approach.
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00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:32,074
Is your client prepared
to enter a plea?
377
00:16:32,074 --> 00:16:33,284
- At this point,
your honor, I really
378
00:16:33,284 --> 00:16:35,077
haven't had an
adequate opportunity
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00:16:35,077 --> 00:16:36,204
to confer with my client.
380
00:16:36,204 --> 00:16:38,080
I beg the court's
indulgence that he might
381
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,248
enter a plea at a later date.
382
00:16:39,248 --> 00:16:40,333
- I'll set it of
down for Thursday.
383
00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:42,043
Is that all right, Mr. Mullaney?
384
00:16:42,043 --> 00:16:43,252
Yes, it is, your honor.
385
00:16:43,252 --> 00:16:45,129
- At this time, your honor,
I would also move for Mr.
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00:16:45,129 --> 00:16:47,048
Mullaney's disqualification.
387
00:16:47,048 --> 00:16:48,216
On what grounds?
388
00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:50,051
- On the grounds that my
appearance in the state
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00:16:50,051 --> 00:16:51,302
of California is an association
with a firm of McKenzie,
390
00:16:51,302 --> 00:16:54,180
Brackman, Becker, Kelsey,
Markowitz, and Morales, a firm
391
00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:56,140
of which I believe Mr.
Mullaney was a member.
392
00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:57,350
- Your honor, I
haven't been a member
393
00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,143
of the firm for
more than a year,
394
00:16:59,143 --> 00:17:02,188
and I haven't met Mr.
Levinson until today.
395
00:17:02,188 --> 00:17:04,065
- I'm going to have
to take this matter
396
00:17:04,065 --> 00:17:05,191
under advisement, gentlemen.
397
00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:07,276
I am not prepared
to rule on this now.
398
00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:10,112
- Your honor, in that I
sense this is a little more
399
00:17:10,112 --> 00:17:11,197
than a delaying tactic.
400
00:17:11,197 --> 00:17:12,406
I'm prepared to
withdraw from the case.
401
00:17:12,406 --> 00:17:15,159
My office will appoint
another prosecutor.
402
00:17:15,159 --> 00:17:16,410
Very well.
403
00:17:16,410 --> 00:17:18,246
- I would assume that all
evidence related to this case
404
00:17:18,246 --> 00:17:20,248
be made available, be it
inculpatory or exculpatory.
405
00:17:20,248 --> 00:17:22,208
I would also ask that
at Thursday's hearing,
406
00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:24,126
the court entertain an
application for bail.
407
00:17:24,126 --> 00:17:26,212
- I believe that when
Mr Levinson looks over
408
00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:29,090
the evidence, inculpatory
and exculpatory,
409
00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:31,342
he will decline to pursue
his application for bail.
410
00:17:31,342 --> 00:17:33,094
Why is that?
411
00:17:33,094 --> 00:17:36,097
Mr. Morrison confessed.
412
00:17:36,097 --> 00:17:38,099
[chatter]
413
00:17:44,146 --> 00:17:45,481
- I'll see you
back at the office.
414
00:17:45,481 --> 00:17:47,316
Excuse me.
415
00:17:47,316 --> 00:17:49,360
You're Sandy's parents?
416
00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:50,361
Yes, we are.
417
00:17:50,361 --> 00:17:51,445
I'm Jonah Burgee.
418
00:17:51,445 --> 00:17:54,240
It was my wife who was killed.
419
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,451
I want you to know that I'm
not unaware of your pain
420
00:17:57,451 --> 00:17:59,328
in all of this.
421
00:17:59,328 --> 00:18:02,206
And I, certainly, don't want
you to feel as though I'm going
422
00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:04,417
to be sitting here in court
looking at you or your son,
423
00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:07,169
for that matter, with hatred.
424
00:18:07,169 --> 00:18:11,173
This is a tragedy, and it's
a tragedy for all of us.
425
00:18:11,173 --> 00:18:13,134
Yes, it is.
426
00:18:13,134 --> 00:18:15,136
Thank you for saying that.
427
00:18:15,136 --> 00:18:16,429
- If Gail were here,
she would have said it.
428
00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:19,265
But since she isn't, I know
that she would want me to.
429
00:18:24,478 --> 00:18:27,189
- Overall, I was
pleased with yesterday.
430
00:18:27,189 --> 00:18:28,149
What about you?
431
00:18:28,149 --> 00:18:28,482
I thought it went well.
432
00:18:28,482 --> 00:18:30,359
McCafferty got to me.
433
00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,277
A little.
434
00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:32,403
It's OK though.
435
00:18:32,403 --> 00:18:34,238
- I didn't want
him to get to me.
436
00:18:34,238 --> 00:18:36,198
- From the jury's perspective,
it'll probably work
437
00:18:36,198 --> 00:18:37,325
to your advantage that he did.
438
00:18:37,325 --> 00:18:39,285
Sylvia?
439
00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:40,494
Hello, Judith.
440
00:18:40,494 --> 00:18:43,414
- I didn't expect they'd
have you sitting in court.
441
00:18:43,414 --> 00:18:46,167
I am a member of the firm.
442
00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:48,169
- They're using you as
window dressing, Sylvia.
443
00:18:48,169 --> 00:18:50,338
- I don't choose to see
it that way, Judith.
444
00:18:50,338 --> 00:18:52,298
I believe I'm serving
a useful function.
445
00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:56,344
May we join you?
446
00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:58,387
I'd rather that you didn't.
447
00:18:58,387 --> 00:18:59,388
OK.
448
00:18:59,388 --> 00:19:03,351
[chatter]
449
00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:10,232
- Could you tell us why
an offer of partnership
450
00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:12,485
wasn't made to Judith Kincaid?
451
00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:14,403
- I'd say it was a
combination of things.
452
00:19:14,403 --> 00:19:17,448
Her work was good,
albeit, not exceptional.
453
00:19:17,448 --> 00:19:20,242
She demonstrated
no real potential
454
00:19:20,242 --> 00:19:23,412
for generating business,
and her personality
455
00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:24,580
most definitely hurt her.
456
00:19:24,580 --> 00:19:26,374
In what way did it hurt her?
457
00:19:26,374 --> 00:19:28,250
- Those of us who worked
with her found her
458
00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,461
to be rather severe, cold even.
459
00:19:30,461 --> 00:19:32,421
And she had a low flash point.
460
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:36,217
She tended to be well,
abrasive, bossy, ill tempered,
461
00:19:36,217 --> 00:19:38,552
not a lot of fun to be around.
462
00:19:38,552 --> 00:19:41,430
Given all that, we decided she
wasn't partnership material.
463
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,432
- Was this determination
influenced by the fact
464
00:19:43,432 --> 00:19:44,392
that she's a woman?
465
00:19:44,392 --> 00:19:46,268
Absolutely not.
466
00:19:46,268 --> 00:19:48,312
If anything, I'd say it
gave her an advantage.
467
00:19:48,312 --> 00:19:51,273
We're desperately trying to
bring in some women partners.
468
00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:52,608
We're in law schools recruiting.
469
00:19:52,608 --> 00:19:55,486
We have more women
associates at the firm
470
00:19:55,486 --> 00:19:57,488
now than at any time
in the past history.
471
00:19:57,488 --> 00:20:00,491
And I think that at least one of
them is going to make partner.
472
00:20:00,491 --> 00:20:03,285
Oh, I assure you,
we want a woman.
473
00:20:03,285 --> 00:20:05,287
We just didn't want this woman.
474
00:20:05,287 --> 00:20:06,330
I have nothing further.
475
00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:12,253
- How many attorneys are there
in your firm Mr. McIntyre?
476
00:20:12,253 --> 00:20:13,337
43.
477
00:20:13,337 --> 00:20:14,505
How many partners?
478
00:20:14,505 --> 00:20:17,591
- 10 senior partners,
14 junior partners.
479
00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:20,344
- How many senior
partners are women?
480
00:20:20,344 --> 00:20:21,429
None.
481
00:20:21,429 --> 00:20:22,596
- How many junior
partners are women?
482
00:20:22,596 --> 00:20:25,516
- I'm not unaware that
there's a problem.
483
00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:29,270
We are in need of the humanizing
influence a woman would bring.
484
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:31,313
The right woman just
hasn't come along.
485
00:20:31,313 --> 00:20:32,481
- The truth is,
she doesn't exist.
486
00:20:32,481 --> 00:20:34,650
The attributes you want in
a woman and the attributes
487
00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:36,610
you want in a lawyer
are mutually exclusive.
488
00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:38,446
Your honor.
489
00:20:38,446 --> 00:20:39,572
- What you've done is nothing
more than to construct
490
00:20:39,572 --> 00:20:40,656
- an elaborate pretext--
- Miss Kelsey
491
00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:42,450
- --for never having
to allow a woman
492
00:20:42,450 --> 00:20:44,493
into what you like to think
of as your private club.
493
00:20:44,493 --> 00:20:46,412
- Look, I'm not going
to be bullied by her,
494
00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,497
and I'm not going to
be bullied by you.
495
00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,499
Every time you don't
get what you want,
496
00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:52,334
it's because you're
a woman, right?
497
00:20:52,334 --> 00:20:54,545
It's the glass ceiling,
whatever that is.
498
00:20:54,545 --> 00:20:56,297
Well, you know what?
499
00:20:56,297 --> 00:20:58,507
I'm a little sick
of all your whining.
500
00:20:58,507 --> 00:21:02,386
- Sick of all who's
whining, Mr. McIntyre?
501
00:21:02,386 --> 00:21:03,596
- Forgive me, your
honor, I didn't
502
00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:05,473
mean to speak in generalities.
503
00:21:05,473 --> 00:21:07,475
- I'm the one that asked the
question, Mr. McIntyre, who's
504
00:21:07,475 --> 00:21:09,351
whining, were you referring to?
505
00:21:09,351 --> 00:21:10,561
- I was referring
to the plaintiff,
506
00:21:10,561 --> 00:21:11,645
and only the plaintiff.
507
00:21:11,645 --> 00:21:13,564
- Your honor, at
this time, I'd like
508
00:21:13,564 --> 00:21:15,649
to announce my intention to
call Sylvia Reiner as a witness.
509
00:21:15,649 --> 00:21:17,485
I object.
510
00:21:17,485 --> 00:21:18,569
Your honor, Sylvia Reiner
is a member of the defense
511
00:21:18,569 --> 00:21:20,362
team in this case.
512
00:21:20,362 --> 00:21:21,614
- Your honor, I insist
on being able to examine
513
00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:24,450
the policies of this firm
as they pertain to women.
514
00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:26,452
I believe the jury is
entitled to determine
515
00:21:26,452 --> 00:21:30,456
for themselves who it was Mr.
McIntyre was referring to.
516
00:21:30,456 --> 00:21:33,334
- Given the lateness of the
hour, we'll adjourn for today.
517
00:21:33,334 --> 00:21:34,543
When we convene again
tomorrow morning,
518
00:21:34,543 --> 00:21:37,421
you may call Miss
Reiner to the stand.
519
00:21:37,421 --> 00:21:39,340
The witness is excused.
520
00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:40,341
Court is adjourned.
521
00:21:40,341 --> 00:21:43,344
[chatter]
522
00:21:45,471 --> 00:21:47,515
- My firm specializes
in environmental law,
523
00:21:47,515 --> 00:21:49,600
and that's the field I'm
primarily interested in.
524
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,353
- You have a good deal of
litigation experience it seems.
525
00:21:52,353 --> 00:21:53,354
Yes, I do.
526
00:21:53,354 --> 00:21:54,647
Very impressive.
527
00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:57,399
- I appreciate you saying
that, but before I'd consider
528
00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:59,401
joining this organization,
there are a few things
529
00:21:59,401 --> 00:22:00,486
we'd have to address.
530
00:22:00,486 --> 00:22:01,570
Like what?
531
00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:03,405
- The air in this
building is bad,
532
00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:05,407
there has to be significantly
better circulation.
533
00:22:05,407 --> 00:22:07,576
I require ergonomically
correct seating for myself
534
00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:10,579
and my assistant, as well as
radiation shielding for all
535
00:22:10,579 --> 00:22:12,581
the video display terminals.
536
00:22:12,581 --> 00:22:15,626
Look, it's one thing to
take on environmental causes
537
00:22:15,626 --> 00:22:18,504
where deep pocket
defendants are involved,
538
00:22:18,504 --> 00:22:21,549
it's another thing to put
one's own affairs in order.
539
00:22:21,549 --> 00:22:27,346
In other words, are you prepared
to walk it like you talk it?
540
00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:28,514
- I don't believe
we have a resume.
541
00:22:28,514 --> 00:22:30,432
- Forget the resume,
I haven't been working
542
00:22:30,432 --> 00:22:31,559
for the last three years.
543
00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:32,601
What have you been doing?
544
00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:34,395
I've been in jail.
545
00:22:34,395 --> 00:22:35,729
I was convicted of mail fraud.
546
00:22:35,729 --> 00:22:39,400
I served 28 months, now I'm
out and I'm raring to go.
547
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,443
- How are you able
to practice law
548
00:22:41,443 --> 00:22:43,445
if you were convicted
of mail fraud?
549
00:22:43,445 --> 00:22:44,613
I'm not able to practice law.
550
00:22:44,613 --> 00:22:47,491
What I am able to do is
make a great deal of money
551
00:22:47,491 --> 00:22:49,535
in commercial real
estate syndication.
552
00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:54,748
What I need is a base of
operations from which to do it.
553
00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:57,501
[exhales sharply]
554
00:22:57,501 --> 00:22:59,461
- I guess I'd like to
start off by asking
555
00:22:59,461 --> 00:23:00,504
about maternity leave.
556
00:23:03,424 --> 00:23:07,428
[distant sirens]
557
00:23:09,597 --> 00:23:11,765
Ms. Kelsey?
558
00:23:11,765 --> 00:23:12,683
Yes.
559
00:23:12,683 --> 00:23:14,476
Hi.
560
00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:16,687
- I wonder if I could
talk to you for a minute.
561
00:23:16,687 --> 00:23:17,605
Come in.
562
00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:24,820
- I'd like to know what it is
you hope to accomplish, really,
563
00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:26,697
by calling me as a witness?
564
00:23:26,697 --> 00:23:28,741
- Exactly what I said
I hoped to accomplish.
565
00:23:28,741 --> 00:23:31,535
To demonstrate that the
way my client was treated
566
00:23:31,535 --> 00:23:33,829
is indicative of the way other
women at your firm are treated.
567
00:23:33,829 --> 00:23:37,499
- I have no complaints
about how I was treated.
568
00:23:37,499 --> 00:23:38,500
I understand that.
569
00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,461
Then why call me as a witness?
570
00:23:40,461 --> 00:23:43,589
My testimony isn't going to
affect the outcome of this case
571
00:23:43,589 --> 00:23:45,424
one way or another.
572
00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:48,719
- If I felt that way, I
wouldn't call you as a witness.
573
00:23:48,719 --> 00:23:50,638
- You're a partner
here, Ms. Kelsey?
574
00:23:50,638 --> 00:23:51,555
Yes.
575
00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:53,474
You're a partner.
576
00:23:53,474 --> 00:23:56,560
Judith could become a partner
at any number of firms I'm sure.
577
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,813
You two are bright,
successful young women.
578
00:23:59,813 --> 00:24:03,525
Why is it necessary for
you to do this to me?
579
00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:05,569
Why is it necessary
to humiliate me?
580
00:24:05,569 --> 00:24:07,613
- I'm not trying to
humiliate you, Ms. Reiner.
581
00:24:07,613 --> 00:24:09,531
- That's what
you're going to do.
582
00:24:09,531 --> 00:24:11,867
You're going to paint me as this
poor, pathetic creature who's
583
00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:14,495
worked her entire
adult life in return
584
00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:17,498
for whatever scraps these men
have thrown her from the table.
585
00:24:17,498 --> 00:24:22,670
I don't want to be depicted that
way, can you understand that?
586
00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:26,799
Obviously, it's not an
issue of any significance.
587
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,761
[sad music]
588
00:24:34,682 --> 00:24:36,013
[exhales sharply]
589
00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:41,647
- Are you married, Ms. Reiner?
- Objection.
590
00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:42,731
Irrelevant.
591
00:24:42,731 --> 00:24:44,525
- Your honor, I
think the jury is
592
00:24:44,525 --> 00:24:45,776
entitled to view the
totality of circumstances
593
00:24:45,776 --> 00:24:47,736
affecting this woman.
594
00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:48,904
I'll allow it.
595
00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:50,572
I'm divorced.
596
00:24:50,572 --> 00:24:51,824
Do you have children?
597
00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:53,617
I have three grown children.
598
00:24:53,617 --> 00:24:54,910
- How long have
you been divorced?
599
00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:56,870
Since 1970.
600
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:58,664
- Who provided
most of the income
601
00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:00,624
that you and your children
lived on, Ms. Reiner?
602
00:25:00,624 --> 00:25:02,710
I provided all the income.
603
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:04,712
- What year did you
come to work for Owen,
604
00:25:04,712 --> 00:25:06,505
Pierce, McIntyre, and Reynolds?
605
00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:07,715
1962.
606
00:25:07,715 --> 00:25:09,717
- And you remained there
ever since as an associate,
607
00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:10,634
is that right?
608
00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:11,844
Yes, I have.
609
00:25:11,844 --> 00:25:13,846
- Now as time went on, one
of your responsibilities
610
00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:16,765
was to train other
associates, wasn't it?
611
00:25:16,765 --> 00:25:18,642
Yes.
612
00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:20,561
- Yet there were a variety
of perquisites and privileges
613
00:25:20,561 --> 00:25:22,646
extended to other associates
that weren't extended to you,
614
00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:23,814
weren't there?
615
00:25:23,814 --> 00:25:24,940
- I really have no
complaints about the way
616
00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:26,567
I've been treated.
617
00:25:26,567 --> 00:25:27,693
- Were you given
your own office?
618
00:25:27,693 --> 00:25:28,694
No, I wasn't.
619
00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:29,695
Your own secretary?
620
00:25:29,695 --> 00:25:30,821
No.
621
00:25:30,821 --> 00:25:32,740
- Isn't it a fact,
Ms. Reiner, that you
622
00:25:32,740 --> 00:25:35,576
make less money than associates
whom you yourself have trained?
623
00:25:35,576 --> 00:25:36,952
- I wouldn't know the
answer to that question.
624
00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:39,705
- Isn't it also a fact, Ms.
Reiner, that until this trial,
625
00:25:39,705 --> 00:25:41,874
you were never once allowed
to set foot in a courtroom?
626
00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:44,626
- As I said, I
have no complaints.
627
00:25:44,626 --> 00:25:45,836
- Have you seen
the evaluation that
628
00:25:45,836 --> 00:25:47,838
was made when you first
came up for partnership
629
00:25:47,838 --> 00:25:49,590
review, Ms. Reiner?
630
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:50,591
No, I haven't.
631
00:25:50,591 --> 00:25:51,884
I have a copy of it here.
632
00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:54,595
I ask that it be admitted into
evidence as plaintiff's exhibit
633
00:25:54,595 --> 00:25:55,554
number 5.
634
00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:56,597
Objection.
635
00:25:56,597 --> 00:25:57,848
This evaluation is
ancient history.
636
00:25:57,848 --> 00:25:59,725
Attitudes towards
women across the board
637
00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:00,851
were totally different then.
638
00:26:00,851 --> 00:26:02,728
- I would maintain,
your honor, that
639
00:26:02,728 --> 00:26:04,730
what we're here to determine
is just how different they are.
640
00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:06,815
It seems to me that the
only thing that's different
641
00:26:06,815 --> 00:26:08,776
is the degree of
subterfuge those attitudes
642
00:26:08,776 --> 00:26:09,818
are concealed behind.
643
00:26:09,818 --> 00:26:12,905
I'll allow it to come in.
644
00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:17,993
- I quote, "Sylvia is like
most women, good with details,
645
00:26:17,993 --> 00:26:21,872
but utterly lacking in fire
or leadership potential.
646
00:26:21,872 --> 00:26:24,750
Loyal as a Saint Bernard--
647
00:26:24,750 --> 00:26:28,670
keep her chained to the
doghouse, feed her once a day,
648
00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:31,799
and she'll follow us anywhere.
649
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:34,259
Definitely not partnership
material, not even close."
650
00:26:38,764 --> 00:26:41,767
Would you agree with
that characterization?
651
00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:44,812
- I have no complaints
about the way I was treated.
652
00:26:44,812 --> 00:26:46,688
- Is it possible,
Ms. Reiner, that
653
00:26:46,688 --> 00:26:47,981
having to raise three
children on your own
654
00:26:47,981 --> 00:26:50,776
taught you to have
no complaints?
655
00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:53,862
You have no right to do this.
656
00:26:53,862 --> 00:26:56,657
This is supposed to
be about your life.
657
00:26:56,657 --> 00:27:00,911
You have no right to force
me to talk about my life.
658
00:27:00,911 --> 00:27:03,747
I apologize, Ms. Reiner.
659
00:27:03,747 --> 00:27:04,706
Nothing further.
660
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:10,796
[knock on door]
661
00:27:10,796 --> 00:27:12,673
- I'm looking for
Beverly Halleran.
662
00:27:12,673 --> 00:27:13,924
You found her.
663
00:27:13,924 --> 00:27:15,717
- I was told that you were
assigned to the Morrison case.
664
00:27:15,717 --> 00:27:16,927
Who are you?
665
00:27:16,927 --> 00:27:19,805
- I'm Eli Levinson, I'm
representing Sandy Morrison.
666
00:27:19,805 --> 00:27:21,890
Sit down.
667
00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:23,642
- I assume you
know we're dealing
668
00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:24,726
with someone who's quite ill?
669
00:27:24,726 --> 00:27:25,727
Are we?
670
00:27:25,727 --> 00:27:26,937
Have you studied his file?
671
00:27:26,937 --> 00:27:27,938
Yes.
672
00:27:27,938 --> 00:27:29,773
Then what's the question?
673
00:27:29,773 --> 00:27:31,900
He's been institutionalized
half a dozen times,
674
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:35,737
he's been diagnosed as a
clinical bipolar depressive.
675
00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:37,739
You don't doubt that that
was a factor, do you?
676
00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:38,991
A factor in what?
677
00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:43,829
- A factor in Morrison having
killed Gail Burgee, assuming,
678
00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:45,038
of course, that he did.
679
00:27:45,038 --> 00:27:47,833
- Your client is a very
dangerous man, Mr. Levinson.
680
00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,918
I'm not interested in
his clinical diagnosis,
681
00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:51,879
I'm interested in getting
him off the street.
682
00:27:51,879 --> 00:27:53,755
Me too.
683
00:27:53,755 --> 00:27:55,048
But the truth is, he never
should have been on the street.
684
00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:56,758
Well.
685
00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:58,010
- And if you force
me to try this case,
686
00:27:58,010 --> 00:27:59,887
I will subpoena every shrink
and hospital administrator
687
00:27:59,887 --> 00:28:01,763
this kid ever saw.
688
00:28:01,763 --> 00:28:03,056
Anyone who had anything to do
with putting him on the street
689
00:28:03,056 --> 00:28:04,725
will be called as a witness.
690
00:28:04,725 --> 00:28:06,018
I'll make this trial
about how Sandy
691
00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:08,729
Morrison got to be a killer,
not whether or not he was one.
692
00:28:08,729 --> 00:28:10,814
- You can try to make it
about that, Mr. Levinson.
693
00:28:10,814 --> 00:28:12,816
Whether you succeed or
not depends on the judge.
694
00:28:12,816 --> 00:28:14,109
- You're right,
and I'm more than
695
00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:17,029
willing to take that chance.
696
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:19,865
What is it you're looking for?
697
00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,950
- Not guilty by
reason of insanity.
698
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:25,037
Long-term commitment to
a secure mental hospital.
699
00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:26,955
Come on, that should
satisfy your need
700
00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:29,875
to get him off the street and
my need to get him some help.
701
00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:31,084
- I have your assurance
you won't fight
702
00:28:31,084 --> 00:28:32,836
me on the issue of confinement?
703
00:28:32,836 --> 00:28:33,837
Absolutely.
704
00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:38,842
OK.
705
00:28:38,842 --> 00:28:40,844
He pleads guilty in
court, I won't oppose it,
706
00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:42,763
and we'll schedule a
commitment hearing.
707
00:28:42,763 --> 00:28:44,806
He also remains in
custody until such time
708
00:28:44,806 --> 00:28:46,934
as he can be transferred
to a mental hospital.
709
00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:47,851
Agreed.
710
00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:52,856
OK.
711
00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:55,067
Well, nice doing business
with you, counselor.
712
00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:56,818
Nice doing business with you.
713
00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:03,951
- Are you sure I can't
interest you in a little wine?
714
00:29:03,951 --> 00:29:05,160
They've got a great selection.
715
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,080
Thank you, no, I don't drink.
716
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,957
- Everything God
created is good,
717
00:29:09,957 --> 00:29:11,833
and nothing is to
be rejected if it's
718
00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:12,960
received with thanksgiving.
719
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,879
1 Timothy, Chapter 4.
720
00:29:15,879 --> 00:29:19,007
- Why did you ask me
to lunch, Mr. Becker?
721
00:29:19,007 --> 00:29:21,802
- I was very impressed
with you the other day.
722
00:29:21,802 --> 00:29:23,053
I was hoping I
could interest you
723
00:29:23,053 --> 00:29:26,974
in the field of matrimonial
law, working directly under me,
724
00:29:26,974 --> 00:29:28,892
so to speak.
725
00:29:28,892 --> 00:29:30,769
Does that mean I have the job?
726
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:32,062
- Well, partners still
have to vote on it,
727
00:29:32,062 --> 00:29:34,815
but I'd say you're a
pretty serious contender.
728
00:29:34,815 --> 00:29:38,193
- Well, maybe we better wait
until they've made a decision.
729
00:29:38,193 --> 00:29:41,947
- Are you involved with
anyone at the present time?
730
00:29:41,947 --> 00:29:43,198
No, I'm not.
731
00:29:43,198 --> 00:29:48,036
- Well, praise the Lord, as
it happens, neither am I.
732
00:29:48,036 --> 00:29:51,957
- Um, Mr. Becker, am I correct
in assuming that you're
733
00:29:51,957 --> 00:29:55,168
interested in entering into some
sort of romantic relationship
734
00:29:55,168 --> 00:29:57,045
with me?
735
00:29:57,045 --> 00:29:59,131
- Possible inappropriateness
of such candor notwithstanding,
736
00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:02,884
interested would be
far too mild of a word.
737
00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:05,095
- Please understand
something, I don't
738
00:30:05,095 --> 00:30:07,139
believe in recreational sex.
739
00:30:07,139 --> 00:30:09,057
- Do not deprive each
other so that you may
740
00:30:09,057 --> 00:30:10,976
devote yourselves to prayer.
741
00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:13,854
Come together so that Satan
will not tempt you because
742
00:30:13,854 --> 00:30:15,022
of your lack of self control.
743
00:30:15,022 --> 00:30:17,232
1 Corinthians Chapter 7.
744
00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:19,151
- Paul's letter
to the Corinthians
745
00:30:19,151 --> 00:30:21,069
was referring to
married couples.
746
00:30:21,069 --> 00:30:24,031
- But the principle still
obtains, does it not?
747
00:30:24,031 --> 00:30:27,909
No, Mr. Becker, it does not.
748
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:29,119
I'm a virgin.
749
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:32,164
I'm a virgin by choice,
and I will remain a virgin
750
00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:35,208
until the night of my wedding.
751
00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:39,129
Now, if there's nothing
else we need to discuss,
752
00:30:39,129 --> 00:30:40,964
I'd like to go.
753
00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:44,134
I do hope you'll still
consider me for the position,
754
00:30:44,134 --> 00:30:47,220
and I hope that you'll be able
to confine our relationship
755
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:49,222
should I get the
position to one strictly
756
00:30:49,222 --> 00:30:52,934
professional in nature.
757
00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:55,812
And I also hope that you will
continue to read the Bible.
758
00:31:02,903 --> 00:31:05,280
I got it, she's a virgin.
759
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,990
Woo!
760
00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:08,283
- There are those
who will tell you
761
00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:11,078
that Judith Kincaid is in here
asking for special treatment.
762
00:31:11,078 --> 00:31:13,288
I'm here to tell you that the
reason Judith Kincaid has come
763
00:31:13,288 --> 00:31:15,165
into this courtroom
is that she's already
764
00:31:15,165 --> 00:31:17,084
gotten special treatment.
765
00:31:17,084 --> 00:31:19,920
She has been judged,
not as an attorney,
766
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,213
but as a woman attorney.
767
00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:24,216
She found herself being
punished for the very
768
00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:27,260
same behavior for which male
associates were rewarded.
769
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:30,180
They were assertive,
she was abrasive.
770
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:33,934
They showed leadership,
she was bossy.
771
00:31:33,934 --> 00:31:37,938
They were businesslike,
she was cold.
772
00:31:37,938 --> 00:31:40,232
Nobody told her when she first
interviewed with the firm
773
00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:42,984
that she would be judged
not on how hard she worked,
774
00:31:42,984 --> 00:31:45,070
but on how much fun
she was to be around.
775
00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:47,155
Nobody told her that
her failure to smile
776
00:31:47,155 --> 00:31:49,157
or her lack of
interest in sports
777
00:31:49,157 --> 00:31:51,201
would represent an
insurmountable obstacle
778
00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:52,285
to advancement.
779
00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:55,080
And the reason
nobody told her was
780
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,291
that the men who interviewed
her wanted her to work for them.
781
00:31:58,291 --> 00:32:01,086
They knew that this
was a bright, driven
782
00:32:01,086 --> 00:32:04,047
attorney who could be depended
upon to work her tail off.
783
00:32:04,047 --> 00:32:05,966
They knew that it would
be six or seven years
784
00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:07,217
before they'd have
to tell her that she
785
00:32:07,217 --> 00:32:09,094
wasn't going to make partner.
786
00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:12,139
They knew what a good
deal they had here.
787
00:32:12,139 --> 00:32:14,057
They had only to
look at the deal
788
00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:15,142
they had with Sylvia Reiner.
789
00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,105
Now, I have no doubt but
that the man of Owen, Pierce,
790
00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:22,232
McIntyre, and Reynolds are
made somewhat uncomfortable
791
00:32:22,232 --> 00:32:23,316
by Judith Kincaid.
792
00:32:23,316 --> 00:32:25,193
I have no doubt
that they are more
793
00:32:25,193 --> 00:32:28,238
comfortable having as partners
other men like themselves.
794
00:32:28,238 --> 00:32:32,325
We ask that you consider
the cost of that comfort.
795
00:32:32,325 --> 00:32:35,996
We ask that you look at
the lives that are expended
796
00:32:35,996 --> 00:32:38,039
without recognition or reward.
797
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,083
We ask that you do
something about it.
798
00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:50,051
- When Judith Kincaid
came to work at Owen,
799
00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:51,303
Pierce, McIntyre,
and Reynolds, what
800
00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:54,306
did she have a right to expect?
801
00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:57,142
She had the right to
expect to be paid fairly
802
00:32:57,142 --> 00:33:00,020
and to be given the
same opportunities as
803
00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:02,272
other associates at the firm.
804
00:33:02,272 --> 00:33:05,066
The fact that she was
judged and found wanting
805
00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:08,236
does not translate into
an act of discrimination.
806
00:33:08,236 --> 00:33:13,241
Her work was satisfactory,
her demeanor less so.
807
00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:16,119
Given the range of candidates,
the senior partners chose who
808
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:17,412
they felt were best qualified.
809
00:33:17,412 --> 00:33:19,247
They made a decision.
810
00:33:19,247 --> 00:33:22,167
So long as there were legitimate
reasons for that decision,
811
00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:24,336
they were wholly within
their rights to make it.
812
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:28,048
Now, if you decide otherwise,
if you compensate Judith Kincaid
813
00:33:28,048 --> 00:33:30,217
for this alleged
wrong, by extension,
814
00:33:30,217 --> 00:33:34,221
you will hurt the prospects
of all women who work.
815
00:33:34,221 --> 00:33:37,224
You will presume by inference
that women can't be judged
816
00:33:37,224 --> 00:33:39,184
honestly, that
they can't compete
817
00:33:39,184 --> 00:33:41,144
on the basis of
their own abilities,
818
00:33:41,144 --> 00:33:45,273
that they need attorneys
shepherding their progress.
819
00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:50,278
Now, I believe that hard work
and talent will result in women
820
00:33:50,278 --> 00:33:53,240
taking their rightful
place alongside men
821
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,158
in all strata of society.
822
00:33:55,158 --> 00:34:01,248
But in order for that to happen,
they must be permitted to fail.
823
00:34:01,248 --> 00:34:02,457
And all of us who
work for a living,
824
00:34:02,457 --> 00:34:04,334
stand on our own two feet.
825
00:34:04,334 --> 00:34:08,213
We all vie for promotions, we
are all subject to the judgment
826
00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:09,339
of others.
827
00:34:09,339 --> 00:34:11,299
If we get knocked
down, we get back up,
828
00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:14,052
brush ourselves off,
get back into the ring.
829
00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:21,268
We learn from our failures,
we learn from our mistakes.
830
00:34:21,268 --> 00:34:24,104
Let Judith Kincaid do
the very same thing.
831
00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:28,108
[soft music]
832
00:34:28,108 --> 00:34:28,483
You like this place?
833
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:30,402
Yeah, it's nice.
834
00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:32,195
- I know the owner.
- Oh yeah?
835
00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:33,280
- Yeah.
- Hmm.
836
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,198
- Where are you
from in New York?
837
00:34:35,198 --> 00:34:36,199
Queens.
838
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:37,242
- Get out of here.
- Yeah.
839
00:34:37,242 --> 00:34:38,493
- [chuckles]
- What?
840
00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:40,203
- I can't believe I'm sitting
here in LA with a chick
841
00:34:40,203 --> 00:34:41,371
- from Queens.
- And why is that?
842
00:34:41,371 --> 00:34:42,455
Where do you think I'm from?
843
00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:44,332
- I have no idea
where you're from.
844
00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:46,126
- I'm from Bayside.
- Get out of here.
845
00:34:46,126 --> 00:34:47,127
- Yeah.
[laughter]
846
00:34:47,127 --> 00:34:48,295
Excuse me.
847
00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:49,421
You just got ticketed.
848
00:34:49,421 --> 00:34:50,463
- What do you mean,
you just got ticketed?
849
00:34:50,463 --> 00:34:51,464
They're giving out tickets.
850
00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:55,135
Well, send Matty in here.
851
00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:56,219
What's going on?
852
00:34:56,219 --> 00:34:57,387
I'm handling the parking here.
853
00:34:57,387 --> 00:34:59,389
- What do yo mean, you're
handling the parking?
854
00:34:59,389 --> 00:35:02,183
- Well, I have a valet parking
service, among other things.
855
00:35:02,183 --> 00:35:05,270
I mean, last week, I did parties
at Eddie Van Halen's, Mickey
856
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:07,230
Rourke's, and at Stallone's.
857
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:08,481
I'm impressed.
858
00:35:08,481 --> 00:35:10,358
- Yeah, I know, sometimes
I can't believe it myself.
859
00:35:10,358 --> 00:35:12,485
- I don't know what's going
on, Anthony, suddenly they're
860
00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:14,237
handing out parking tickets.
861
00:35:14,237 --> 00:35:15,488
- What, do I have to
do everything myself?
862
00:35:15,488 --> 00:35:17,240
No, you don't.
863
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,326
Excuse me for the
interruption here.
864
00:35:19,326 --> 00:35:21,369
- Hey, Matty, just give
the meter maid $100
865
00:35:21,369 --> 00:35:23,288
or park it somewhere else.
866
00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,206
- $100, I'm going to wind up
in a jackpot, I give him $100
867
00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:26,207
Then you win a jackpot.
868
00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:27,250
Go ahead.
869
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:30,128
- All right, I'll
take care of it.
870
00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,172
- So you're working now?
- Do I look like I'm working?
871
00:35:32,172 --> 00:35:33,298
- Yeah, you do.
- Hey?
872
00:35:33,298 --> 00:35:35,175
What?
873
00:35:35,175 --> 00:35:38,470
- I'm sitting here entranced and
entrapped by a gorgeous woman
874
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:40,430
from the borough of Queens.
875
00:35:40,430 --> 00:35:42,223
- So it's just a
coincidence that we
876
00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:43,516
came to this restaurant?
877
00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:45,143
Well, what do you think?
878
00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:46,269
What do I think?
879
00:35:46,269 --> 00:35:48,229
I think I'm remembering
all the reasons why
880
00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:49,564
I never wanted to end up with
a guy from Queens, that's
881
00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:51,232
what I think.
882
00:35:51,232 --> 00:35:52,275
- Hey, how'd you
like to meet Sly?
883
00:35:52,275 --> 00:35:53,526
- Anthony?
- What?
884
00:35:53,526 --> 00:35:55,445
- I hate to bother you, but
Matty's getting arrested.
885
00:35:55,445 --> 00:35:56,529
Yeah, for what?
886
00:35:56,529 --> 00:35:58,448
- He offered money
to the meter maid.
887
00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:00,200
- This is what I
get for bringing
888
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,242
these meatballs out here.
889
00:36:01,242 --> 00:36:02,160
Go ahead.
890
00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:07,499
Listen, give me five
minutes, all right?
891
00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:09,376
I'll straighten everything out.
892
00:36:09,376 --> 00:36:13,296
I come back, we finish the meal,
we'll head out to Nicky Blair's
893
00:36:13,296 --> 00:36:16,257
and we'll hang out with Sly.
894
00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:17,217
All right, gorgeous?
895
00:36:17,217 --> 00:36:17,550
Aight.
896
00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:19,386
Aight?
897
00:36:19,386 --> 00:36:20,345
Be right back.
898
00:36:20,345 --> 00:36:22,555
[chatter]
899
00:36:22,555 --> 00:36:23,515
God.
900
00:36:27,227 --> 00:36:28,228
[exhales sharply]
901
00:36:28,228 --> 00:36:29,229
Oh yeah?
902
00:36:29,229 --> 00:36:29,562
[chuckles]
903
00:36:29,562 --> 00:36:30,522
All right?
904
00:36:30,522 --> 00:36:31,439
Yeah.
905
00:36:31,439 --> 00:36:34,526
Yes, absolutely.
906
00:36:42,242 --> 00:36:45,370
[chatter]
907
00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:47,361
[laughter]
908
00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:51,501
Phil Garabedian?
909
00:36:51,501 --> 00:36:52,419
Too green.
910
00:36:52,419 --> 00:36:53,461
I agree.
911
00:36:53,461 --> 00:36:54,587
Lloyd Hassock?
912
00:36:54,587 --> 00:36:56,256
A prima donna.
913
00:36:56,256 --> 00:36:57,424
I agree with that too.
914
00:36:57,424 --> 00:36:59,300
Jane Halliday?
915
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:00,260
Pass.
916
00:37:00,260 --> 00:37:01,386
Why pass?
917
00:37:01,386 --> 00:37:03,263
- Because she's a member
of the religious right.
918
00:37:03,263 --> 00:37:04,556
- Wait a second, all we know
is that she's a young woman
919
00:37:04,556 --> 00:37:06,307
who happens to believe in God.
920
00:37:06,307 --> 00:37:07,350
Is that all we know?
921
00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:09,519
She went to Bob
Jones University.
922
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:11,354
Yeah?
923
00:37:11,354 --> 00:37:13,523
- Ask her her position on
freedom of choice for women.
924
00:37:13,523 --> 00:37:15,483
Ask her her position
on homosexuality.
925
00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:17,569
- She's not being nominated
for the Supreme Court, Ann.
926
00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:19,362
We're looking for a
first year associate.
927
00:37:19,362 --> 00:37:20,530
Wait a minute.
928
00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:22,282
Whatever the relative
merits of this woman,
929
00:37:22,282 --> 00:37:23,491
I think the fact that
Ann is as adamantly
930
00:37:23,491 --> 00:37:25,618
opposed to her as she is
should account for something.
931
00:37:25,618 --> 00:37:27,579
- So you're saying we
shouldn't consider her?
932
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:29,372
- I'm saying we
shouldn't consider her.
933
00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:31,332
If we can dismiss those
other people out of hand,
934
00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:33,418
- we can dismiss her out of hand.
- Tell me something, Stuart.
935
00:37:33,418 --> 00:37:35,462
How would you feel if we
were talking about a Jew?
936
00:37:35,462 --> 00:37:37,297
Not the same thing.
937
00:37:37,297 --> 00:37:38,339
Not the same thing?
938
00:37:38,339 --> 00:37:40,341
Exactly the same thing.
939
00:37:40,341 --> 00:37:43,636
This woman hasn't said one word
about abortion or homosexuality
940
00:37:43,636 --> 00:37:45,305
or anything else.
941
00:37:45,305 --> 00:37:46,598
What you're doing
is exactly what
942
00:37:46,598 --> 00:37:48,600
all those white-shoe downtown
firms do when they sit around
943
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,519
and refuse to consider
tainting themselves by allowing
944
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,396
a Jew in their midst.
945
00:37:53,396 --> 00:37:55,440
It's exactly the same thing,
and the two of you know it.
946
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,609
- It appears that since
we started interviewing,
947
00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:00,695
she's far and away the
best candidate we've seen,
948
00:38:00,695 --> 00:38:02,572
and we need to hire someone.
949
00:38:02,572 --> 00:38:05,658
If she starts proselytizing,
well, we'll tell her to stop.
950
00:38:05,658 --> 00:38:08,536
If she doesn't stop,
we'll get rid of her.
951
00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:09,621
I vote we hire her.
952
00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:10,622
So do I.
953
00:38:10,622 --> 00:38:12,457
- I vote no.
- Me too.
954
00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:14,334
- I can't see keeping her
out because of her beliefs.
955
00:38:14,334 --> 00:38:15,502
I vote to hire her.
956
00:38:15,502 --> 00:38:17,504
Four to three, right, Arnold?
957
00:38:17,504 --> 00:38:18,588
Four to three.
958
00:38:18,588 --> 00:38:20,298
You let her know, Douglas?
959
00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:21,424
Yes, I will.
960
00:38:21,424 --> 00:38:24,385
- Also, see if she's
free to start Monday.
961
00:38:24,385 --> 00:38:26,387
And also, find out when
they're supposed to be
962
00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:28,598
done with this renovation.
963
00:38:28,598 --> 00:38:31,434
- Tell me, Arnie, is it possible
you would have made a slightly
964
00:38:31,434 --> 00:38:32,685
less impassioned
speech if you hadn't
965
00:38:32,685 --> 00:38:34,354
wanted to go to bed with her?
966
00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:35,480
I resent that.
967
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,564
- Are you saying
you have no interest
968
00:38:36,564 --> 00:38:38,399
in going to bed with her?
969
00:38:38,399 --> 00:38:40,485
- I'm saying that the thought
never crossed my mind.
970
00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:43,655
[exhales sharply]
971
00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:46,533
[chatter]
972
00:38:49,536 --> 00:38:50,703
Have you tasted these things?
973
00:38:50,703 --> 00:38:51,704
What?
974
00:38:51,704 --> 00:38:54,374
These, California bagels.
975
00:38:54,374 --> 00:38:56,543
Look at this, raisin, blueberry.
976
00:38:56,543 --> 00:38:59,379
I don't know what
this one is, it's red.
977
00:38:59,379 --> 00:39:00,630
Bluh, it's like cotton.
978
00:39:00,630 --> 00:39:02,382
- I hate to tell
you, Eli, but not
979
00:39:02,382 --> 00:39:03,591
everybody likes hard bagels.
980
00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:04,717
H&H, they are not.
981
00:39:04,717 --> 00:39:06,553
- Kossar's Bialys, they are not.
- Eli?
982
00:39:06,553 --> 00:39:08,638
- Barney Greengrass's
Sturgeon King, they are not.
983
00:39:08,638 --> 00:39:10,390
- Eli?
- What?
984
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:11,558
- I have something to
tell you, that's what.
985
00:39:11,558 --> 00:39:13,393
- Last night I was
at this restaurant,
986
00:39:13,393 --> 00:39:15,395
and the husband of the
woman who your client was
987
00:39:15,395 --> 00:39:16,563
charged with killing was there.
988
00:39:16,563 --> 00:39:18,439
Yeah?
989
00:39:18,439 --> 00:39:20,400
- Well, it looked like the
mourning period was over.
990
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,484
What do you mean?
991
00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:23,611
- He was with this
hot tomato, and they
992
00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:25,530
were all over each other.
993
00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:27,532
They were drinking,
grabbing, kissing.
994
00:39:27,532 --> 00:39:28,783
I mean, it was like
nauseating already.
995
00:39:28,783 --> 00:39:30,451
Huh.
996
00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:31,494
- I mean, if it
was me who died, I
997
00:39:31,494 --> 00:39:32,579
wouldn't want my
grieving husband
998
00:39:32,579 --> 00:39:33,788
doing what this guy was doing.
999
00:39:33,788 --> 00:39:35,498
Good morning.
1000
00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:37,458
- Leland, this is my
secretary, Denise.
1001
00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:38,501
Well, how do you do, Denise?
1002
00:39:38,501 --> 00:39:39,586
Hey, Leland, how you doing?
1003
00:39:39,586 --> 00:39:41,462
It's OK if I call you Leland?
1004
00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:42,422
Of course.
1005
00:39:42,422 --> 00:39:42,755
Yeah.
1006
00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:43,715
Cool.
1007
00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:46,467
see ya.
1008
00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:47,427
Cool.
1009
00:39:51,472 --> 00:39:54,559
[chatter]
1010
00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:04,652
I need to talk to you, Sandy.
1011
00:40:04,652 --> 00:40:07,488
I can either plead insanity
or I can plead not guilty.
1012
00:40:07,488 --> 00:40:09,574
I need to know from you
what you want me to do.
1013
00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:11,492
Don't ask me.
1014
00:40:11,492 --> 00:40:13,828
- I've got to ask you, it's
you who's accused of murder,
1015
00:40:13,828 --> 00:40:16,497
it's your life
that's on the line.
1016
00:40:16,497 --> 00:40:19,709
- They didn't let me finish
my breakfast this morning.
1017
00:40:19,709 --> 00:40:21,753
- Do you understand the
nature of these proceedings?
1018
00:40:21,753 --> 00:40:22,795
Took away my cereal.
1019
00:40:22,795 --> 00:40:24,756
I wasn't done with it yet.
1020
00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:28,593
Sandy, do you understand?
1021
00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:34,724
- What you have to understand,
Mr. Levinson, is I don't care.
1022
00:40:34,724 --> 00:40:37,727
- Did you confess
because you didn't care?
1023
00:40:37,727 --> 00:40:39,479
Court will come to order.
1024
00:40:39,479 --> 00:40:41,522
Judge Rona Shay is presiding.
1025
00:40:41,522 --> 00:40:44,734
First case on the docket,
People versus Morrison.
1026
00:40:44,734 --> 00:40:46,736
Please be seated.
1027
00:40:46,736 --> 00:40:48,780
Where do we stand on
this case, Ms. Halleran?
1028
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:50,740
- Mr. Morrison has
indicated, through counsel,
1029
00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:53,785
that he is interested in
entering a plea of insanity.
1030
00:40:53,785 --> 00:40:56,496
The people are prepared
to agree to such a plea,
1031
00:40:56,496 --> 00:40:57,830
provided the
defendant's confinement
1032
00:40:57,830 --> 00:41:00,875
to a secure facility remains
continuous and unopposed.
1033
00:41:00,875 --> 00:41:01,751
Mr. Levinson?
1034
00:41:07,632 --> 00:41:09,717
Mr. Levinson?
1035
00:41:09,717 --> 00:41:11,511
- The defense will
not be entering
1036
00:41:11,511 --> 00:41:12,762
a plea of insanity, your honor.
1037
00:41:12,762 --> 00:41:14,806
At this time, we would like
to enter a plea of not guilty.
1038
00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:16,516
Excuse me?
1039
00:41:16,516 --> 00:41:17,725
- Set down for
trial, October 21.
1040
00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:19,686
- The defense would like
to make an application
1041
00:41:19,686 --> 00:41:20,770
for bail, your honor.
1042
00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:21,854
Denied.
1043
00:41:21,854 --> 00:41:24,565
The defendant's
remanded to custody.
1044
00:41:24,565 --> 00:41:25,775
Next case.
1045
00:41:25,775 --> 00:41:26,818
Next case on the docket.
1046
00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:27,735
Can I go now?
1047
00:41:27,735 --> 00:41:29,779
Yeah.
1048
00:41:29,779 --> 00:41:31,656
Hey?
1049
00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:33,616
[chatter]
1050
00:41:33,616 --> 00:41:34,575
Here.
1051
00:41:34,575 --> 00:41:36,786
[chatter]
1052
00:41:46,629 --> 00:41:48,840
- You talk out of both sides
of your mouth, Mr. Levinson.
1053
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,882
I had a change of heart.
1054
00:41:49,882 --> 00:41:51,634
Oh, did you?
1055
00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:52,844
Well, in the future,
I would appreciate it
1056
00:41:52,844 --> 00:41:54,721
if you wouldn't go
through the pretense
1057
00:41:54,721 --> 00:41:56,681
of giving me your
word, since, quite
1058
00:41:56,681 --> 00:41:58,599
apparently, it's worthless.
1059
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,601
- You'll forgive me if
my client's future is
1060
00:42:00,601 --> 00:42:02,645
a somewhat greater significance
to me than remaining
1061
00:42:02,645 --> 00:42:03,813
in your good graces.
1062
00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:05,606
- You think you have a
shot at an acquittal?
1063
00:42:05,606 --> 00:42:06,816
Good luck.
1064
00:42:06,816 --> 00:42:08,818
You also thought getting
Tommy Mullaney off this case
1065
00:42:08,818 --> 00:42:10,611
helped your chances,
well, I think you may have
1066
00:42:10,611 --> 00:42:11,738
miscalculated there as well.
1067
00:42:16,576 --> 00:42:17,785
- Has the jury
reached a verdict?
1068
00:42:17,785 --> 00:42:19,620
We have, your honor.
1069
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:21,706
How say you?
1070
00:42:21,706 --> 00:42:26,669
- We find, for the plaintiff, an
award the sum of $1.5 million.
1071
00:42:26,669 --> 00:42:28,629
- On the issue of
specific performance,
1072
00:42:28,629 --> 00:42:31,591
the court rules the firm
of Owen, Pierce, McIntyre,
1073
00:42:31,591 --> 00:42:33,676
and Reynolds is hereby
compelled to make
1074
00:42:33,676 --> 00:42:37,555
an offer of full partnership
to Judith Kincaid.
1075
00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:39,599
With that, we are adjourned.
1076
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:39,932
[knocking on gavel]
1077
00:42:39,932 --> 00:42:41,809
[chatter]
1078
00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:45,772
- I don't want this
thing to drag out.
1079
00:42:45,772 --> 00:42:46,856
Get rid of her as
soon as you can.
1080
00:42:46,856 --> 00:42:48,733
You got it.
1081
00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:50,860
- Sylvia, I'm sorry to have
put you through testifying.
1082
00:42:50,860 --> 00:42:52,945
If I thought of what it was
going to be like for you,
1083
00:42:52,945 --> 00:42:54,739
I never would have done it.
1084
00:42:54,739 --> 00:42:56,657
- Given the outcome of the
case, it's a good thing
1085
00:42:56,657 --> 00:42:57,784
you didn't think about it.
1086
00:42:57,784 --> 00:42:59,786
- We should schedule
a meeting, Ms. Kelsey.
1087
00:42:59,786 --> 00:43:00,912
For what purpose?
1088
00:43:00,912 --> 00:43:02,830
- For the purpose of
determining how much
1089
00:43:02,830 --> 00:43:05,917
more time and effort is going
to be consumed by this lawsuit.
1090
00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:07,877
- If there's a willingness
on your client's part
1091
00:43:07,877 --> 00:43:09,712
to waive the
partnership offer, we
1092
00:43:09,712 --> 00:43:11,631
would consider
foregoing any appeals
1093
00:43:11,631 --> 00:43:14,675
and paying her the
money damages in full.
1094
00:43:14,675 --> 00:43:16,719
Judith?
1095
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,638
- I think I'd probably
agree to that.
1096
00:43:18,638 --> 00:43:20,681
I thought you might.
1097
00:43:20,681 --> 00:43:22,642
Come on, Syl, let's go.
1098
00:43:22,642 --> 00:43:25,770
[sad music]
1099
00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:35,696
[knock on door]
1100
00:43:35,696 --> 00:43:36,656
Hey.
1101
00:43:36,656 --> 00:43:37,949
So?
1102
00:43:37,949 --> 00:43:40,701
- Looks like we're
going to trial.
1103
00:43:40,701 --> 00:43:42,870
I don't think my
client is guilty.
1104
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:45,832
- What about his--
his confession?
1105
00:43:45,832 --> 00:43:48,626
- I think he signed it
because he was nuts.
1106
00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:50,670
And I think I have
another suspect.
1107
00:43:50,670 --> 00:43:51,879
Who?
1108
00:43:51,879 --> 00:43:53,923
The husband.
1109
00:43:53,923 --> 00:43:58,761
- So it looks like you're
going to be around for a while.
1110
00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:00,680
Looks that way.
1111
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,639
Good.
1112
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:02,890
Good.
1113
00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:05,643
- Do you remember the last
time we saw each other, Stuart?
1114
00:44:07,854 --> 00:44:09,897
It was my grandmother's funeral.
1115
00:44:09,897 --> 00:44:11,983
We went back to Aunt
Ida's to sit shiva,
1116
00:44:11,983 --> 00:44:14,694
and you and I went
upstairs to play Risk.
1117
00:44:14,694 --> 00:44:17,822
Aunt Ida, ooh.
1118
00:44:17,822 --> 00:44:18,990
You remember all that?
1119
00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:21,784
Yeah.
1120
00:44:21,784 --> 00:44:22,910
Good.
1121
00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:24,996
- It's odd, things
remember, isn't it?
1122
00:44:24,996 --> 00:44:27,081
This guy that I came
out here to represent,
1123
00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:29,750
he sits there in
a psychotic haze
1124
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:31,794
and remembers these
seemingly trivial events
1125
00:44:31,794 --> 00:44:33,004
that appear to have
no relationship
1126
00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:34,881
to what's going on around him.
1127
00:44:34,881 --> 00:44:37,008
And everyone sits there and
looks at him as though he
1128
00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:38,634
were on another planet.
1129
00:44:41,762 --> 00:44:43,723
Two years ago, I had
a nervous breakdown,
1130
00:44:43,723 --> 00:44:50,771
Stuart, and that's the way
everyone used to look at me.
1131
00:44:50,771 --> 00:44:51,939
Looks like you've recovered.
1132
00:44:51,939 --> 00:44:53,774
[chuckles]
1133
00:44:53,774 --> 00:44:55,860
- About 90% of the time
I feel like I have.
1134
00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:57,069
[chuckles]
1135
00:44:57,069 --> 00:44:59,947
- You wanna go out, you want
to get something to eat?
1136
00:44:59,947 --> 00:45:01,115
Thanks, I don't think so.
1137
00:45:01,115 --> 00:45:02,992
- Look, I-- I know you
don't believe this,
1138
00:45:02,992 --> 00:45:06,829
but we have some very good
restaurants in Los Angeles.
1139
00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:08,748
Let's do it another night.
1140
00:45:08,748 --> 00:45:10,082
I got some files
to read through,
1141
00:45:10,082 --> 00:45:11,918
and when I get done
with that, I think
1142
00:45:11,918 --> 00:45:13,836
I'm going to go for a walk.
1143
00:45:13,836 --> 00:45:14,921
A walk?
1144
00:45:14,921 --> 00:45:17,924
Eli, this is LA,
nobody walks in LA.
1145
00:45:17,924 --> 00:45:20,885
I think I'm going to anyway.
1146
00:45:20,885 --> 00:45:23,930
- Listen, I-- I--
1147
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:26,849
I just want to tell you
that whether you're here
1148
00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:29,018
for a week or a
month or whatever,
1149
00:45:29,018 --> 00:45:33,814
Ann and I are your
family, and happily so.
1150
00:45:33,814 --> 00:45:38,819
So I-- I just want you to
think of us that way, OK?
1151
00:45:38,819 --> 00:45:41,030
[sad music]
1152
00:46:10,935 --> 00:46:13,771
[theme music]
1153
00:46:41,799 --> 00:46:45,094
[audio logo]
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