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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,403 --> 00:00:06,707 VOICE: * MTV * 2 00:00:06,774 --> 00:00:09,343 [muffled chatter] 3 00:00:13,447 --> 00:00:15,049 TED GARDNER: Look at the carnage! 4 00:00:15,116 --> 00:00:16,417 [laughter] 5 00:00:16,484 --> 00:00:18,486 We made it fucking happen! 6 00:00:19,587 --> 00:00:21,489 Jane's fucking Addiction! 7 00:00:22,956 --> 00:00:24,725 Look at the carnage. 8 00:00:24,792 --> 00:00:27,395 And not one kid was fucking hurt. 9 00:00:27,461 --> 00:00:29,530 MAN: Everybody's having a good time. 10 00:00:29,597 --> 00:00:32,700 It should be an event to be remembered. 11 00:00:32,766 --> 00:00:35,603 WOMAN: You can come and learn also while you're at the concert 12 00:00:35,669 --> 00:00:37,938 about different activ... act... 13 00:00:38,005 --> 00:00:39,873 [laughing] Act. 14 00:00:39,940 --> 00:00:41,175 MAN: Is it a bunch of bands, 15 00:00:41,242 --> 00:00:43,344 or does it have more meaning to you than that? 16 00:00:43,411 --> 00:00:46,214 MAN: It's a bunch of bands bringing people together. 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,781 PERRY FARRELL: The first Lollapalooza 18 00:00:47,848 --> 00:00:50,151 could be looked at as the beginning 19 00:00:50,218 --> 00:00:52,620 of something very powerful. 20 00:00:52,686 --> 00:00:56,624 * Head like a hole, black as your soul * 21 00:00:56,690 --> 00:01:00,961 * I'd rather die than give you control * 22 00:01:01,028 --> 00:01:05,065 * Head like a hole, black as your soul * 23 00:01:05,132 --> 00:01:09,170 * I'd rather die than give you control * 24 00:01:11,839 --> 00:01:16,676 VERNON REID: Lollapalooza was the beginning of things 25 00:01:16,744 --> 00:01:20,348 that were on the edges becoming acceptable. 26 00:01:22,683 --> 00:01:25,119 I think it's... it's a pleasure 27 00:01:25,186 --> 00:01:26,654 to feel freakish. 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,157 FLEA: The first year, Jane's was big, 29 00:01:29,223 --> 00:01:30,958 but in an underground way. 30 00:01:31,024 --> 00:01:32,460 Perry! Perry, we love you. 31 00:01:32,526 --> 00:01:33,827 [woman cheering] 32 00:01:33,894 --> 00:01:35,396 FLEA: Like, we had all been underground bands, 33 00:01:35,463 --> 00:01:36,964 but that was changing. 34 00:01:37,030 --> 00:01:38,432 There was no underground anymore. 35 00:01:38,499 --> 00:01:40,234 [cheering] 36 00:01:40,301 --> 00:01:43,103 * You're going to get what you deserve * 37 00:01:43,170 --> 00:01:46,073 * Head like a hole, black as your soul * 38 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:48,442 ICE-T: Lollapalooza was an adventure, 39 00:01:48,509 --> 00:01:51,378 and took our band to another level. 40 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:56,517 * Bow down before the one you serve * 41 00:01:56,584 --> 00:01:58,551 TRENT REZNOR: Lollapalooza '91 42 00:01:58,619 --> 00:02:01,189 I think was a pivotal reason 43 00:02:01,255 --> 00:02:04,425 that we turned into what we turned into. 44 00:02:04,492 --> 00:02:06,527 And it felt like kind of a promise 45 00:02:06,594 --> 00:02:08,596 of what the future could bring. 46 00:02:19,873 --> 00:02:24,878 WOMAN: So, tell me a little bit about Lollapalooza Two. 47 00:02:24,945 --> 00:02:28,549 - Lollapalooza '92. - '92, excuse me. 48 00:02:28,616 --> 00:02:29,983 Where do we start? 49 00:02:31,485 --> 00:02:34,154 I can't guarantee it's gonna be any better. 50 00:02:34,222 --> 00:02:37,525 But I know that probably it'll be bigger. 51 00:02:37,591 --> 00:02:39,192 GARDNER: It'll be different. 52 00:02:39,260 --> 00:02:41,329 HEIDI ROBINSON: Lollapalooza '92-- 53 00:02:41,395 --> 00:02:43,497 in the press campaign for the second Lollapalooza, 54 00:02:43,564 --> 00:02:47,801 we did a whole lot of, "If you missed the first one, 55 00:02:47,868 --> 00:02:49,570 "you've now got a second chance. 56 00:02:49,637 --> 00:02:51,939 Don't blow it this time. Come on out." 57 00:02:54,242 --> 00:02:56,510 MAN: Last year, Lollapalooza was one of the hottest tours 58 00:02:56,577 --> 00:02:57,845 of the summer. 59 00:02:57,911 --> 00:03:00,248 And with most of the 36 dates already sold out, 60 00:03:00,314 --> 00:03:03,384 it looks like Lollapalooza Two is gonna be even bigger. 61 00:03:03,451 --> 00:03:04,885 It's more hyped up this year. 62 00:03:04,952 --> 00:03:06,420 There's a lot more coverage this year, 63 00:03:06,487 --> 00:03:07,888 you know, more people know about it. 64 00:03:07,955 --> 00:03:10,258 [cheering] 65 00:03:10,324 --> 00:03:12,260 [screaming] 66 00:03:12,326 --> 00:03:14,027 TOM BEAUJOUR: One of the really important things 67 00:03:14,094 --> 00:03:18,098 about Lollapalooza was that it moved. 68 00:03:18,165 --> 00:03:20,501 We're gonna keep the ticket price cheap, 69 00:03:20,568 --> 00:03:22,870 and we're gonna go to where these kids are. 70 00:03:22,936 --> 00:03:24,638 I think Lollapalooza is great. 71 00:03:24,704 --> 00:03:26,807 I mean, they should have had this a long time ago, 72 00:03:26,874 --> 00:03:28,242 and I hope it keeps on going. 73 00:03:28,309 --> 00:03:30,244 I hope I can be, you know, 50 years old 74 00:03:30,311 --> 00:03:31,745 and still going to Lollapaloozas. 75 00:03:31,812 --> 00:03:38,252 It was one day of getting your teenage mind blown. 76 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:40,421 You know, the world's a lot bigger 77 00:03:40,488 --> 00:03:43,457 than you think it is here in St. Paul. 78 00:03:43,524 --> 00:03:44,792 We actually had to message, 79 00:03:44,858 --> 00:03:46,293 "Look, you're gonna have to take the day off." 80 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,961 BOY: Our principal kicked us out for going to this. 81 00:03:48,028 --> 00:03:49,397 - Our principal kicked us out. - Oh! 82 00:03:49,463 --> 00:03:50,964 - Our principal kicked us out. - We have no school 83 00:03:51,031 --> 00:03:52,165 for the rest of the year. 84 00:03:53,401 --> 00:03:56,370 All right, so we're talking 1992. 85 00:03:58,406 --> 00:04:02,476 The prerequisite was young breaking groups. 86 00:04:02,543 --> 00:04:04,345 MAN: And there is Lush going in their tour bus. 87 00:04:04,412 --> 00:04:08,649 Colors and psychedelic-type things, you know. 88 00:04:08,716 --> 00:04:10,584 It'll be good, you'll like it. Come. 89 00:04:10,651 --> 00:04:13,621 I was looking for artists that were alternative. 90 00:04:13,687 --> 00:04:15,055 What?! 91 00:04:15,122 --> 00:04:16,656 Alternative to what? 92 00:04:16,724 --> 00:04:20,793 Alternative to the status quo, to classic rock. 93 00:04:20,861 --> 00:04:23,397 [exclaiming] 94 00:04:29,437 --> 00:04:31,138 We'll take that as a positive. 95 00:04:31,204 --> 00:04:34,342 [Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Give It Away"] 96 00:04:34,408 --> 00:04:35,976 FLEA: By the time we got to Lolla, 97 00:04:36,043 --> 00:04:38,145 we had made our "Blood Sugar Sex Magik" record. 98 00:04:38,211 --> 00:04:40,180 First time we had big hits, 99 00:04:40,247 --> 00:04:42,582 we're, you know, playing arenas. 100 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:45,284 * What I got, you gotta get it, put it in you * 101 00:04:45,353 --> 00:04:48,622 FLEA: And I had been absolutely fucking miserable. 102 00:04:48,689 --> 00:04:50,457 I'd gotten divorced, I was stressed, 103 00:04:50,524 --> 00:04:51,859 I couldn't sleep. 104 00:04:51,925 --> 00:04:55,529 I was, like, didn't know how to take care of myself. 105 00:04:55,596 --> 00:04:57,331 I had kind of gotten to a point 106 00:04:57,398 --> 00:04:59,066 where I was emotionally much more stable 107 00:04:59,132 --> 00:05:01,569 by the time Lollapalooza had come around. 108 00:05:01,635 --> 00:05:04,505 It was like, I'm okay. I can enjoy this. 109 00:05:04,572 --> 00:05:06,173 Like, it's okay for me to have fun. 110 00:05:06,239 --> 00:05:09,410 * Low brow but I rock a little know how * 111 00:05:09,477 --> 00:05:12,045 * No time for the piggies or the hoosegow * 112 00:05:12,112 --> 00:05:16,684 "Blood Sugar Sex Magik," that record-- voom-- you know? 113 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,218 They became superstars, 114 00:05:18,285 --> 00:05:20,388 and Lolla was the beneficiary of it. 115 00:05:20,454 --> 00:05:22,155 Lolla got a lot of those. 116 00:05:22,222 --> 00:05:24,257 [Pearl Jam, "Even Flow"] 117 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:29,229 DON MULLER: I remember sitting in the conference room, 118 00:05:29,296 --> 00:05:32,165 Perry's across from me, and I said, 119 00:05:32,232 --> 00:05:34,267 "We're gonna put this band on named Pearl Jam." 120 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:36,504 And you know, it was one of those things, 121 00:05:36,570 --> 00:05:39,239 I was not leaving that room until Pearl Jam was on the bill. 122 00:05:39,306 --> 00:05:42,142 * Even flow * 123 00:05:42,209 --> 00:05:45,245 * Thoughts arrive like butterflies * 124 00:05:45,312 --> 00:05:48,682 STUART ROSS: Don Muller had signed Pearl Jam 125 00:05:48,749 --> 00:05:52,686 and put them on Lollapalooza before their record came out. 126 00:05:52,753 --> 00:05:56,624 And they got paid, I think $8,500, okay? 127 00:05:56,690 --> 00:05:59,960 The record comes out months before the tour. 128 00:06:00,027 --> 00:06:02,062 It's huge. 129 00:06:02,129 --> 00:06:03,531 KURT LODER: Joining the Chili Peppers 130 00:06:03,597 --> 00:06:05,433 on this summer's second annual Lollapalooza tour 131 00:06:05,499 --> 00:06:07,768 will be the Seattle bands Soundgarden and Pearl Jam. 132 00:06:07,835 --> 00:06:09,970 GEIGER: Seattle had blown wide open. 133 00:06:10,037 --> 00:06:12,740 Don wanted Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. 134 00:06:12,806 --> 00:06:16,043 But I told Don, you can't put two bands from the same scene. 135 00:06:16,109 --> 00:06:19,012 He's like, he told me to go fuck myself, and I'm wrong. 136 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:21,549 And Don was very right. 137 00:06:21,615 --> 00:06:24,418 There's certain similarities, but really, I mean, 138 00:06:24,485 --> 00:06:26,620 if you sat down someone who didn't know 139 00:06:26,687 --> 00:06:28,789 and played them a Nirvana record, 140 00:06:28,856 --> 00:06:30,624 a Mudhoney record, and a Soundgarden record, 141 00:06:30,691 --> 00:06:32,460 and a Pearl Jam record, you know, 142 00:06:32,526 --> 00:06:34,327 they would have no clue that they were all 143 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:37,665 from like the same city or the same scene. 144 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:38,999 MAN: I'm waiting for the show to start. 145 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:40,601 Basically here to see Pearl Jam. 146 00:06:40,668 --> 00:06:41,735 What's your favorite group? 147 00:06:41,802 --> 00:06:43,170 - Pearl Jam. - Pearl Jam? 148 00:06:43,236 --> 00:06:44,705 - Yes! - Pearl Jam, boy, 149 00:06:44,772 --> 00:06:46,474 they're number one on our requests so far. 150 00:06:46,540 --> 00:06:49,409 I'm here to see Ice Cube! Yeah, baby! 151 00:06:49,477 --> 00:06:50,711 Who are you here to see? 152 00:06:50,778 --> 00:06:53,313 Ministry, Lush. Yeah, that's basically it. 153 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:54,948 You have the Lush color already. 154 00:06:55,015 --> 00:06:56,316 Thanks. 155 00:06:56,383 --> 00:06:57,818 MAN: Make some noise for Lush! 156 00:06:57,885 --> 00:07:00,521 [cheers and applause] 157 00:07:00,588 --> 00:07:03,123 [Lush, "Nothing Natural"] 158 00:07:06,494 --> 00:07:08,796 WOMAN: What did it feel like to be the first band to play, 159 00:07:08,862 --> 00:07:10,698 you know, kick off the whole thing? 160 00:07:10,764 --> 00:07:13,133 Terrible. Terrible! 161 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,102 Well, I think they chose us so that, you know, 162 00:07:15,168 --> 00:07:16,336 everyone else could sort of, you know, 163 00:07:16,403 --> 00:07:17,738 think, "Oh, that's how they do it." 164 00:07:17,805 --> 00:07:19,239 That's how to do it. 165 00:07:20,508 --> 00:07:24,912 ROSS: Lollapalooza's there. Everybody is super excited. 166 00:07:24,978 --> 00:07:27,515 But people were showing up much earlier 167 00:07:27,581 --> 00:07:29,617 than any of us anticipated. 168 00:07:30,618 --> 00:07:34,788 And tickets were manual. Scanning did not exist. 169 00:07:34,855 --> 00:07:39,226 So, we were having a hard time physically getting people in. 170 00:07:41,061 --> 00:07:44,532 The problem is, Pearl Jam were playing second, 171 00:07:44,598 --> 00:07:48,101 and they were as hot as they could possibly be. 172 00:07:48,168 --> 00:07:50,103 Hey, man, you got a joint? 173 00:07:50,170 --> 00:07:52,472 [screaming] 174 00:07:52,540 --> 00:07:53,807 MAN: How long y'all been waiting? 175 00:07:53,874 --> 00:07:55,843 About two and a half. Two and a half hours. 176 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:57,711 - How long y'all been waiting? - Man... 177 00:07:57,778 --> 00:08:00,213 - God. We left at 10:30. - At least three hours, man. 178 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,750 - What's your favorite band? - Pearl Jam or Soundgarden. 179 00:08:02,816 --> 00:08:04,818 Cool. I hope you make it, man. 180 00:08:04,885 --> 00:08:06,687 No shit, man. It starts at 2:00. 181 00:08:06,754 --> 00:08:09,489 ROSS: So, people are waiting in line, 182 00:08:09,557 --> 00:08:11,424 and then they hear Pearl Jam on stage. 183 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:14,027 [band playing] 184 00:08:15,596 --> 00:08:19,366 * Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey * 185 00:08:19,432 --> 00:08:22,302 ROSS: And they lose their minds and tear fences down. 186 00:08:24,905 --> 00:08:27,808 Young people running from one end of the field 187 00:08:27,875 --> 00:08:30,510 to the other, a swell of humans. 188 00:08:30,578 --> 00:08:33,713 [band playing] 189 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:36,616 You have never seen security people so frightened. 190 00:08:36,683 --> 00:08:38,118 You know, they were literally calculating out, 191 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:39,452 "Okay, I'm gonna lose my life, 192 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:41,388 "I'm being paid $7.99 an hour, or whatever else. 193 00:08:41,453 --> 00:08:42,856 This is not worth it, I'm leaving." 194 00:08:42,923 --> 00:08:44,692 They were manic shows. 195 00:08:44,758 --> 00:08:47,294 [band playing] 196 00:08:49,630 --> 00:08:52,566 PINFIELD: The crowd was so in love with the band. 197 00:08:52,633 --> 00:08:55,102 And Eddie Vedder you could tell was feeding off that energy, 198 00:08:55,168 --> 00:08:57,037 because he'd already started doing things 199 00:08:57,104 --> 00:08:58,872 where he was climbing up the structure. 200 00:08:58,939 --> 00:09:01,474 [band playing] 201 00:09:04,978 --> 00:09:08,782 FARRELL: I thought that band owned the stage. 202 00:09:08,849 --> 00:09:11,384 [screaming] 203 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,856 FARRELL: They owned the sound. 204 00:09:17,958 --> 00:09:21,061 And I really have become friends with them. 205 00:09:21,128 --> 00:09:24,264 I have a great deal of respect, and love, 206 00:09:24,331 --> 00:09:25,766 and admiration for them. 207 00:09:25,833 --> 00:09:28,368 [band playing] 208 00:09:34,341 --> 00:09:36,109 MULLER: It was the hottest ticket, hands down, 209 00:09:36,176 --> 00:09:37,678 in America, if not the world. 210 00:09:37,745 --> 00:09:40,147 I wouldn't say that Lollapalooza broke them, 211 00:09:40,213 --> 00:09:43,516 but Lollapalooza was broken by Pearl Jam. 212 00:09:45,018 --> 00:09:46,654 Alternative, or whatever you wanna call it-- 213 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,189 grunge, punk, you know. [laughing] 214 00:09:50,223 --> 00:09:52,525 It was just massive. 215 00:09:53,694 --> 00:09:57,097 TIM DONNELLY: In '92, Generation X had really arrived, 216 00:09:57,164 --> 00:10:01,802 and the energy of the crowd was insane. 217 00:10:01,869 --> 00:10:03,637 [people screaming] 218 00:10:03,704 --> 00:10:07,808 You know, I think, to me, that kind of dancing and moshing 219 00:10:07,875 --> 00:10:09,777 was cathartic. 220 00:10:10,878 --> 00:10:12,813 MAN: One, two, three, go! 221 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,249 REPORTER: It seems dancing at concerts has changed. 222 00:10:16,316 --> 00:10:18,151 You get a big crowd, then jump up 223 00:10:18,218 --> 00:10:20,320 and let other people throw you around. 224 00:10:20,387 --> 00:10:22,289 - You do it... - For the rush! 225 00:10:22,355 --> 00:10:24,491 REPORTER: Ah, yes, for the rush. 226 00:10:24,557 --> 00:10:26,960 DONNELLY: 1992 wasn't a bright time. 227 00:10:28,028 --> 00:10:29,329 We just got through the '80s 228 00:10:29,396 --> 00:10:31,298 where everybody went nuts, right? 229 00:10:31,364 --> 00:10:32,933 No freaking jobs. 230 00:10:34,234 --> 00:10:36,737 How many broken households were those kids coming from? 231 00:10:38,071 --> 00:10:40,140 America was freaking bleak. 232 00:10:40,207 --> 00:10:42,009 REPORTER: This home video of the police 233 00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:44,211 beating up Rodney King was not enough 234 00:10:44,277 --> 00:10:46,213 to convince the jury that the officers 235 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:48,381 were guilty of excessive use of force. 236 00:10:48,448 --> 00:10:50,317 - [woman shouting] - Outside the courthouse, 237 00:10:50,383 --> 00:10:52,485 angry demonstrators gathered to protest. 238 00:10:52,552 --> 00:10:54,755 MAN: I see-- I'll tell you what, John, 239 00:10:54,822 --> 00:10:58,591 I gotta see at least 40 fires going at this time. 240 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:00,393 REPORTER: Police across the nation are demanding 241 00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:03,764 that Ice-T's song "Cop Killer" be pulled from store shelves. 242 00:11:03,831 --> 00:11:05,498 The New York State Sheriff's Association 243 00:11:05,565 --> 00:11:07,701 is the latest group to demand that Time Warner, 244 00:11:07,768 --> 00:11:10,838 the company that is distributing the record, stop selling it. 245 00:11:10,904 --> 00:11:12,906 ICE-T: They tried to blame me for the riot. 246 00:11:12,973 --> 00:11:15,642 They lied, though. They say we made it 247 00:11:15,709 --> 00:11:17,144 as a result of Rodney King. 248 00:11:17,210 --> 00:11:19,412 But I'ma tell you, when I wrote the song, 249 00:11:19,479 --> 00:11:22,582 Rodney King, it hadn't happened to Rodney King yet. 250 00:11:22,649 --> 00:11:24,417 So, they found my record and they attacked, 251 00:11:24,484 --> 00:11:26,219 and for a minute, all the news went to me, 252 00:11:26,286 --> 00:11:28,421 and everybody forgot what was really going on in the streets. 253 00:11:28,488 --> 00:11:30,057 WOMAN: Even Vice President Dan Quayle 254 00:11:30,123 --> 00:11:31,725 has jumped on the boycott bandwagon. 255 00:11:31,792 --> 00:11:37,064 It is wrong for a powerful influential corporation 256 00:11:37,130 --> 00:11:39,967 like Time Warner to make money off a record 257 00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:43,103 that says it's okay to kill cops. 258 00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:47,274 There's so many songs that people are singing 259 00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:50,543 that aren't... you know, 260 00:11:50,610 --> 00:11:53,080 autobiographical or real. 261 00:11:53,146 --> 00:11:54,982 This is, you know, they're metaphors. 262 00:11:55,048 --> 00:11:57,751 * Ground control to Major Tom * 263 00:11:57,818 --> 00:12:00,320 Was David Bowie really in the motherfucking space? 264 00:12:01,621 --> 00:12:03,924 Like, what the fuck's the matter with you? 265 00:12:03,991 --> 00:12:05,725 [laughing] 266 00:12:09,396 --> 00:12:11,031 Let's get loud and shout! 267 00:12:11,098 --> 00:12:14,935 From Seattle, Washington, Soundgarden! 268 00:12:15,002 --> 00:12:17,771 [cheers and applause] 269 00:12:19,539 --> 00:12:21,975 REID: I went to the Lollapalooza that was Soundgarden 270 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:26,780 and Pearl Jam, which was fucking great. 271 00:12:26,847 --> 00:12:29,649 And Soundgarden performed "Cop Killer." 272 00:12:29,716 --> 00:12:32,585 CHRIS CORNELL: You gotta realize your power. 273 00:12:32,652 --> 00:12:35,188 If anybody tells you that you can't buy something 274 00:12:35,255 --> 00:12:37,858 or you can't read something, you gotta fight it. 275 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:39,526 You gotta kick ass and make sure 276 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:41,661 that you fucking know what's known. 277 00:12:41,728 --> 00:12:44,297 This is a song dedicated to that feeling. 278 00:12:44,364 --> 00:12:47,567 This is called "Cop Killer" by a band called Body Count. 279 00:12:47,634 --> 00:12:50,170 [cheers and applause] 280 00:12:52,772 --> 00:12:54,908 * Cop killer! * 281 00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:57,744 ICE-T: I thought it was dope. 282 00:12:57,811 --> 00:13:00,580 I think anybody who does that song got balls. 283 00:13:00,647 --> 00:13:03,483 "Cop Killer," man, it's like hitting that electric fence. 284 00:13:03,550 --> 00:13:05,085 Like, pow! Like, whoa! 285 00:13:05,152 --> 00:13:07,687 ["Cop Killer" playing] 286 00:13:09,957 --> 00:13:13,160 We all knew the cops were beating up Black people. 287 00:13:13,226 --> 00:13:15,362 This is not a new thing. 288 00:13:15,428 --> 00:13:17,297 This is an ongoing struggle. 289 00:13:17,364 --> 00:13:18,665 COP: Get your legs back, spread 'em! 290 00:13:18,731 --> 00:13:20,500 Go on, get on over there. Get up against the car. 291 00:13:20,567 --> 00:13:21,902 Get your legs back there. 292 00:13:21,969 --> 00:13:24,137 Go on, get on over there. Get on the ground. 293 00:13:24,204 --> 00:13:26,339 - I'm gonna treat you like King. - What King? 294 00:13:26,406 --> 00:13:28,541 Like Martin Luther King. Like Rodney King. 295 00:13:28,608 --> 00:13:29,910 Like all the Kings from Africa. 296 00:13:29,977 --> 00:13:32,345 At the time, I was a huge Ice Cube fan. 297 00:13:32,412 --> 00:13:34,848 He had just put out his second solo record, 298 00:13:34,915 --> 00:13:36,283 "Death Certificate." 299 00:13:36,349 --> 00:13:38,418 ICE CUBE: I talked to Ice-T, and he was telling me 300 00:13:38,485 --> 00:13:40,988 about Lollapalooza, and how it was good, boom-boom-boom. 301 00:13:41,054 --> 00:13:43,556 Then I heard that they wanted to get me on there, you know, 302 00:13:43,623 --> 00:13:45,392 and he was telling me, "Yo, you know, 303 00:13:45,458 --> 00:13:47,260 "fans that's never seen you play before, 304 00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:48,896 "they've been wanting to see you play. 305 00:13:48,962 --> 00:13:51,231 May be scared to go to a rap concert." 306 00:13:51,298 --> 00:13:53,400 And I said they treat you real cool. 307 00:13:53,466 --> 00:13:55,402 You're gonna find out there's a lot of support 308 00:13:55,468 --> 00:13:57,037 out there for you, you know, 309 00:13:57,104 --> 00:13:59,639 and it's just another-- another place 310 00:13:59,706 --> 00:14:01,875 to get the message across, and the kids need to hear it. 311 00:14:01,942 --> 00:14:04,711 * Fresh out of school 'cause I was a high school grad * 312 00:14:04,777 --> 00:14:07,380 * Gots to get a job 'cause I was a high school dad * 313 00:14:07,447 --> 00:14:09,716 * Wish I got paid by rappin' to the nation * 314 00:14:09,782 --> 00:14:12,752 * But that's not likely, so here's my application * 315 00:14:12,819 --> 00:14:15,155 MAN: How political is Lollapalooza? 316 00:14:15,222 --> 00:14:18,558 ICE CUBE: It's very political, but it's on the unity tip. 317 00:14:18,625 --> 00:14:21,728 It's getting people exposed to, you know, what I'm like, 318 00:14:21,794 --> 00:14:23,964 and it's exposing me to what other people are like. 319 00:14:24,031 --> 00:14:26,233 And we got some fans from overseas there. 320 00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:29,102 - This must be a trip for you. - Yeah, it's fun. 321 00:14:29,169 --> 00:14:31,804 WOMAN: So, how many people you guys registered today? 322 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:33,240 Thousands. Millions. 323 00:14:33,306 --> 00:14:34,807 - Billions. - It's incredible. 324 00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:37,444 MAN: We're registering between 800 and 1,000 people a day, 325 00:14:37,510 --> 00:14:38,711 which is unheard of. 326 00:14:38,778 --> 00:14:40,147 It's like over 100 people an hour. 327 00:14:40,213 --> 00:14:41,581 JOHN NORRIS: A survey of young Americans 328 00:14:41,648 --> 00:14:43,616 recently conducted by MTV and Rock the Vote 329 00:14:43,683 --> 00:14:45,953 predicts that a mix of cynicism and hope 330 00:14:46,019 --> 00:14:47,520 will drive almost three-quarters 331 00:14:47,587 --> 00:14:49,456 of those questioned to vote this election year. 332 00:14:49,522 --> 00:14:53,126 Even though 75% of the 1,000 18 to 29-year-olds 333 00:14:53,193 --> 00:14:55,428 in the survey view politicians as quote, 334 00:14:55,495 --> 00:14:57,830 "undeserving of their trust and respect," 335 00:14:57,897 --> 00:14:59,199 an equal number plan to vote. 336 00:14:59,266 --> 00:15:01,701 Choose or lose. You gotta vote. 337 00:15:01,768 --> 00:15:03,636 WOMAN: What do you guys think of Al Gore 338 00:15:03,703 --> 00:15:06,806 being chosen by Clinton as his running mate? 339 00:15:06,873 --> 00:15:09,876 I'm afraid of his wife and her witch hunters, 340 00:15:09,943 --> 00:15:11,378 and headhunters, and things like that. 341 00:15:11,444 --> 00:15:14,281 But I mean, I think Al Gore and Clinton 342 00:15:14,347 --> 00:15:18,185 is definitely a better ticket than the antichrist 343 00:15:18,251 --> 00:15:20,087 who is now running the country. 344 00:15:21,188 --> 00:15:26,026 FARRELL: If there is a duty in life 345 00:15:26,093 --> 00:15:29,929 assigned to each and every generation, 346 00:15:29,997 --> 00:15:34,767 it is that they must turn over the world, 347 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:37,304 and nothing short. 348 00:15:37,370 --> 00:15:39,572 Don't do anything Barbara Bush wouldn't do. 349 00:15:41,208 --> 00:15:43,743 [rhythmic clanging on metal] 350 00:15:45,412 --> 00:15:47,347 ROBINSON: Lollapalooza was a circus, 351 00:15:47,414 --> 00:15:49,382 it was a carnival. 352 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:51,818 It wasn't just a concert. 353 00:15:51,884 --> 00:15:55,255 To use a phrase from the '60s, it was a happening. 354 00:15:58,058 --> 00:16:01,694 DAVE: One of the sights to see on Lollapalooza '92 355 00:16:01,761 --> 00:16:04,197 is the Jim Rose Circus Sideshow. 356 00:16:04,264 --> 00:16:05,698 Jim Rose, what's this all about? 357 00:16:05,765 --> 00:16:08,368 Hi, Dave, it's a human demolition spectacular. 358 00:16:08,435 --> 00:16:10,870 We're gonna be doing it on the Stage 2000. 359 00:16:10,937 --> 00:16:14,241 It's a two-hour show, and it's about body altering, 360 00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:15,942 changing your body. 361 00:16:16,009 --> 00:16:19,446 FARRELL: This cat put on a modern twist 362 00:16:19,512 --> 00:16:21,214 on a carnival sideshow, 363 00:16:21,281 --> 00:16:24,184 where it wasn't the bearded lady, 364 00:16:24,251 --> 00:16:26,819 but it's the guy who will hang, 365 00:16:26,886 --> 00:16:30,957 you know, a 50-pound dumbbell from his balls. 366 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:35,495 Would you guys like to see that? 367 00:16:35,562 --> 00:16:37,830 [cheers and applause] 368 00:16:41,101 --> 00:16:44,204 MAN: With a hook. Now, let those swing! 369 00:16:49,276 --> 00:16:51,278 It was weird fucked up shit that they did. 370 00:16:51,344 --> 00:16:53,646 Lifting objects with his penis was the most incredible thing 371 00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:55,448 - I've ever seen in my life. - That was amazing. 372 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:56,949 MAN: Ow! 373 00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:59,119 MICO: I remember seeing the Jim Rose Circus Sideshow 374 00:16:59,186 --> 00:17:01,988 with Chris Cornell, and we all thought, 375 00:17:02,055 --> 00:17:03,890 this is the most disgusting thing. 376 00:17:03,956 --> 00:17:07,060 The Duke of Puke. Let's go. 377 00:17:07,127 --> 00:17:08,728 You're gonna want to see this. 378 00:17:08,795 --> 00:17:11,098 ROSS: He had a guy who took a tube 379 00:17:11,164 --> 00:17:13,366 and snaked it down his nose. 380 00:17:14,666 --> 00:17:20,406 MAN: And we would put in beer, ketchup, Maalox, 381 00:17:20,473 --> 00:17:22,342 and I'd pump it into the stomach. 382 00:17:22,409 --> 00:17:24,644 Now... 383 00:17:24,711 --> 00:17:27,214 What goes down must come up. 384 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,216 And then I'd pull it back up. 385 00:17:32,051 --> 00:17:33,586 [cheers and applause] 386 00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:35,322 And the show's just starting. 387 00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:38,358 Ladies and gentlemen, it's time now for bile beer. 388 00:17:39,526 --> 00:17:41,060 Is there anybody who would like to have 389 00:17:41,128 --> 00:17:42,429 a drink of beer with the freaks? 390 00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:45,498 I'll give 'em one free beer. Who are they? 391 00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:47,134 Who would possibly do that? 392 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,103 You'd have to be completely fucking out of your mind 393 00:17:50,170 --> 00:17:52,672 - to do that. - It's Eddie! 394 00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:55,608 It's Eddie from Pearl Jam. 395 00:17:55,675 --> 00:17:57,244 Down the hatch with the freaks. 396 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,716 Eddie drank that shit, Chris Cornell drank that shit. 397 00:18:03,783 --> 00:18:05,218 I don't know who else did it, but after I was done, 398 00:18:05,285 --> 00:18:06,686 I was like, why the fuck did I do that? 399 00:18:06,753 --> 00:18:08,054 INTERVIEWER: You drank bile? 400 00:18:08,121 --> 00:18:09,889 I drank the fucking bile, dude. 401 00:18:09,956 --> 00:18:12,492 [cheers and applause] 402 00:18:13,926 --> 00:18:15,928 That's entertainment. 403 00:18:18,898 --> 00:18:20,333 Okay, let me be serious for a minute. 404 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,236 We're gonna have a second stage this year, 405 00:18:23,303 --> 00:18:24,937 which I'm real into. 406 00:18:25,004 --> 00:18:28,375 Ted's not, but I am. No, we both are. 407 00:18:28,441 --> 00:18:31,244 One stage would give us enough time 408 00:18:31,311 --> 00:18:34,347 for five to seven groups at the most, right? 409 00:18:34,414 --> 00:18:36,649 If you put another stage in, 410 00:18:36,716 --> 00:18:39,486 and they could be even the younger ones, 411 00:18:39,552 --> 00:18:43,856 ones coming up that weren't quite ready for 20,000 people, 412 00:18:43,923 --> 00:18:45,658 that would be cool. 413 00:18:45,725 --> 00:18:49,162 There have been a few moments in my rock career 414 00:18:49,229 --> 00:18:51,231 where I've really been happy. 415 00:18:51,298 --> 00:18:53,366 And one of them was when Perry Farrell called me up 416 00:18:53,433 --> 00:18:56,203 and asked the new band I was in, Rage Against the Machine, 417 00:18:56,269 --> 00:18:58,271 to play the side stage at Lollapalooza. 418 00:18:58,338 --> 00:19:02,108 Just to be on that site and to-- for the first time ever, 419 00:19:02,175 --> 00:19:04,143 to be out of a little grimy club, 420 00:19:04,211 --> 00:19:06,078 I just felt sort of honored to be there. 421 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:08,648 There was a lot of small bands played that tour. 422 00:19:08,715 --> 00:19:10,783 Stone Temple Pilots. 423 00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:13,920 PERRY FARRELL: Cypress Hill. And Tool. 424 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:15,588 WOMAN: So, why did you guys come to Lollapalooza this year? 425 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:17,924 - I love Perry Farrell. - We love Perry! 426 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:21,661 FARRELL: In '92, I started Porno for Pyros. 427 00:19:23,196 --> 00:19:26,599 MICO: That year, Porno for Pyros played their first ever show 428 00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:28,034 on the side stage. 429 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:31,103 And what it did was show that really interesting stuff 430 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:32,472 was gonna happen on the side stage, 431 00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:35,208 and you don't wanna miss it. 432 00:19:35,275 --> 00:19:39,078 "120 Minutes" presents the Alternative Year in Rock. 433 00:19:39,145 --> 00:19:41,047 You see it on TV, you read it in magazines, 434 00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:42,815 you hear it from your grandmother. 435 00:19:42,882 --> 00:19:47,254 1992 was a big year for alternative music. 436 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,124 Lollapalooza has gone for being a fringe thing 437 00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:55,462 to actually promoting what is now 438 00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:57,230 really the popular music of the time. 439 00:19:57,297 --> 00:19:58,965 MAN: Nirvana, Red Hot Chili Peppers, 440 00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:01,634 Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Sonic Youth, 441 00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:03,436 Nine Inch Nails, Ministry, REM. 442 00:20:03,503 --> 00:20:07,774 MORELLO: Now, it wasn't just an artist with ideas 443 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,944 curating a live playlist for an emerging fanbase 444 00:20:12,011 --> 00:20:13,513 around the nation. 445 00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:16,283 It was a bunch of big corporate record companies 446 00:20:16,349 --> 00:20:18,351 trying to jam their bands onto the bill 447 00:20:18,418 --> 00:20:19,519 to try to break them. 448 00:20:19,586 --> 00:20:21,954 Record labels started calling us. 449 00:20:22,021 --> 00:20:25,292 Presidents started calling us saying, "Put my band on." 450 00:20:25,358 --> 00:20:27,059 And we're like, "No." 451 00:20:27,126 --> 00:20:28,695 And they're like, "What do you mean? 452 00:20:28,761 --> 00:20:30,196 Do you know who I am?" 453 00:20:30,263 --> 00:20:31,698 And I'm like, "Yeah, I know who you are." 454 00:20:31,764 --> 00:20:33,866 We weren't gonna be told what to do by anybody. 455 00:20:36,769 --> 00:20:39,038 Let's see here. 456 00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:41,107 What do we have on '93? 457 00:20:41,173 --> 00:20:45,044 I see Primus, Alice in Chains, Dinosaur Jr., 458 00:20:45,111 --> 00:20:49,616 Fishbone, Arrested, 242, Babes in Toyland. 459 00:20:49,682 --> 00:20:53,019 Tool must have opened. Oh, and Rage. 460 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:55,622 [Rage Against the Machine, "Bombtrack"] 461 00:20:57,457 --> 00:20:59,792 * Hey, yo, it's just another bomb... * 462 00:20:59,859 --> 00:21:02,495 In '93, there's no Jane's Addiction, 463 00:21:02,562 --> 00:21:05,231 there's no Perry fronting Porno as the first thing, 464 00:21:05,298 --> 00:21:08,067 there's no sort of ringing endorsement necessarily. 465 00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:11,237 He's more removed, even though he's not. 466 00:21:11,304 --> 00:21:13,039 He's not playing. 467 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:15,842 So, Lolla has to stand on its own two feet. 468 00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:20,212 * It goes a-one, two, three * 469 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,349 * And it's just another bombtrack * 470 00:21:22,415 --> 00:21:24,684 * And suckers be thinking that they can fade this * 471 00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:27,754 * But I'm gonna drop it at a higher level... * 472 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:30,890 FARRELL: I went and checked out Rage Against the Machine. 473 00:21:30,957 --> 00:21:34,394 I knew they were gonna be just unbelievable. 474 00:21:34,461 --> 00:21:36,996 [band playing] 475 00:21:38,331 --> 00:21:40,867 [Zack screaming] 476 00:21:44,003 --> 00:21:46,573 The sheer, like, balls-out 477 00:21:46,639 --> 00:21:51,411 was technically brilliant. 478 00:21:51,478 --> 00:21:54,013 [guitar solo] 479 00:21:55,448 --> 00:21:57,417 MORELLO: So, '93, Rage Against the Machine 480 00:21:57,484 --> 00:22:00,052 was playing like at 1:30 in the afternoon. 481 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,922 People sitting down with their beers and their hot dogs. 482 00:22:02,989 --> 00:22:05,725 * Burn, burn, yes, you're gonna burn * 483 00:22:05,792 --> 00:22:08,094 MORELLO: And on comes Rage Against the Machine 484 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,830 with huge riffs and screeching solos, 485 00:22:10,897 --> 00:22:12,732 and you know, Zack pontificating 486 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,835 about the evils of imperialism. 487 00:22:15,902 --> 00:22:18,304 And people were just-- their ears were pinned back, 488 00:22:18,371 --> 00:22:20,940 and we were done by, like, 2:15. 489 00:22:21,007 --> 00:22:22,341 * Burn! ** 490 00:22:23,910 --> 00:22:25,445 [cheers and applause] 491 00:22:25,512 --> 00:22:28,180 MORELLO: A Rage Against the Machine show is issue-oriented. 492 00:22:28,247 --> 00:22:30,116 Every time a band steps up on a stage, 493 00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:32,184 it's-- you know, it's a platform to say something. 494 00:22:32,251 --> 00:22:34,621 I don't think that we should be fooled now, 495 00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:36,389 just because Clinton's in office, 496 00:22:36,456 --> 00:22:39,325 that he isn't serving many of the same interests 497 00:22:39,392 --> 00:22:41,594 that Reagan and Bush served, and it's our responsibility 498 00:22:41,661 --> 00:22:43,095 to organize and to stay on top 499 00:22:43,162 --> 00:22:45,297 and keep pressuring and keep confronting. 500 00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:48,234 MAN: You voted. Now, you're invited. 501 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:49,969 Live from Washington D.C., 502 00:22:50,036 --> 00:22:52,739 MTV's "Rock N' Roll Inaugural Ball." 503 00:22:52,805 --> 00:22:54,907 [cheers and applause] 504 00:22:54,974 --> 00:22:57,477 Ladies and gentlemen, the Vice President 505 00:22:57,544 --> 00:23:00,346 of the United States and Mrs. Gore. 506 00:23:00,413 --> 00:23:01,581 [cheers and applause] 507 00:23:01,648 --> 00:23:03,282 JOHN RUBELI: You have Tipper Gore 508 00:23:03,349 --> 00:23:05,818 and her organization PMRC 509 00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:08,821 trying to tamp down free thought. 510 00:23:08,888 --> 00:23:13,125 All we're interested in is a way to make a quick decision 511 00:23:13,192 --> 00:23:16,963 in a record store of stuff that's positive, 512 00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:19,566 terrific, and great, over some content 513 00:23:19,632 --> 00:23:21,734 that's extremely explicit and violent, 514 00:23:21,801 --> 00:23:23,736 and refers to drugs. 515 00:23:23,803 --> 00:23:26,806 It had gotten to the point where I think every one of us 516 00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:28,307 were like, "Why is this happening?" 517 00:23:28,374 --> 00:23:32,078 The subculture is being celebrated in the mainstream. 518 00:23:32,144 --> 00:23:34,380 You could buy Alternative Press Magazine 519 00:23:34,447 --> 00:23:35,682 at the supermarket. 520 00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:38,050 We rocked the vote, all right. 521 00:23:38,117 --> 00:23:40,820 FARRELL: The initial Rock the Vote campaign 522 00:23:40,887 --> 00:23:42,655 that was started at Lollapalooza, 523 00:23:42,722 --> 00:23:45,391 of course he benefitted. 524 00:23:45,458 --> 00:23:47,494 TIPPER: Thank you very much for helping change 525 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,829 the course of your country. 526 00:23:49,896 --> 00:23:54,300 And Rage decided, "Well, we have to do something." 527 00:23:56,803 --> 00:23:59,305 We had the idea to do a protest. 528 00:24:00,607 --> 00:24:02,909 Layne Staley had never seen Rage play. 529 00:24:02,975 --> 00:24:05,144 Alice in Chains was headlining, so he was later in the day. 530 00:24:05,211 --> 00:24:06,579 So, he came that day. 531 00:24:06,646 --> 00:24:08,147 So, he's standing on the side of the stage like, 532 00:24:08,214 --> 00:24:10,116 "Man, I heard your band's great. I can't wait to see you guys." 533 00:24:10,182 --> 00:24:12,585 I'm like, "Layne, you're going to see us. 534 00:24:12,652 --> 00:24:15,287 You're going to see us very soon." 535 00:24:15,354 --> 00:24:17,256 No one else knows, no one in the crew, 536 00:24:17,323 --> 00:24:20,059 Layne Staley-- nobody knows. 537 00:24:20,126 --> 00:24:21,894 It's time to go. We take off our clothes. 538 00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:24,531 * No more lies, unh! * 539 00:24:24,597 --> 00:24:27,767 HERMAN: Tom Morello's mother was my high school history teacher. 540 00:24:27,834 --> 00:24:30,302 She's a really avid First Amendment supporter, 541 00:24:30,369 --> 00:24:35,041 and you know, Tom inherited, you know, those leanings. 542 00:24:35,107 --> 00:24:39,045 She's actually the radical in the family, to be honest. 543 00:24:39,111 --> 00:24:43,583 I just remember thinking, how long is he gonna do this? 544 00:24:43,650 --> 00:24:45,518 And I couldn't believe it, and I thought, 545 00:24:45,585 --> 00:24:48,521 wow, that's really, really brave and committed. 546 00:24:48,588 --> 00:24:50,923 But then part of me was like, you know, there's other ways 547 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:54,460 to do it. [laughing] 548 00:24:54,527 --> 00:24:57,797 FARRELL: Well, I wasn't there, but I sure saw the pictures. 549 00:24:57,864 --> 00:25:00,166 That was before manscaping. 550 00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:03,202 How cool, though? 551 00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:07,740 Take your cock out, man, that's fucking-- that's heavy. 552 00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:11,678 It's "120 Minutes," I'm Lewis Largent, 553 00:25:11,744 --> 00:25:13,512 and right now I'm in an Alice in Chains sandwich. 554 00:25:13,580 --> 00:25:15,347 I'm gonna give you the mic, and you introduce yourself. 555 00:25:15,414 --> 00:25:19,451 Jerry Cantrell, codpiece extraordinaire. 556 00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:24,056 * Yeah * 557 00:25:25,825 --> 00:25:29,095 * What's my drug of choice * 558 00:25:29,161 --> 00:25:30,930 HOPPER: The line-ups of Lolla 559 00:25:30,997 --> 00:25:37,469 have been very dude-heavy for years. 560 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:42,842 That kind of booking really shuns women in bands, 561 00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:44,911 and there have always been women in bands. 562 00:25:44,977 --> 00:25:47,780 Okay, backstage again at Lollapalooza '93, 563 00:25:47,847 --> 00:25:49,582 and we are here with Babes in Toyland, 564 00:25:49,649 --> 00:25:53,185 the lone babes on the Lollapalooza bill. 565 00:25:53,252 --> 00:25:55,487 Do you think there's any truth in the criticism... 566 00:25:55,554 --> 00:25:57,156 - Lone babes? - Yeah. 567 00:25:57,223 --> 00:25:59,091 Everybody's babes in the universe. 568 00:26:00,259 --> 00:26:01,327 HERMAN: On the first day of this tour, 569 00:26:01,393 --> 00:26:04,330 this elderly man in a blue satin vest 570 00:26:04,396 --> 00:26:06,032 with a swirly psychedelic pattern 571 00:26:06,098 --> 00:26:10,002 comes up to us and says, "I love your band." 572 00:26:10,069 --> 00:26:15,808 * You got this thing that really makes me hot * 573 00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:18,678 And he started, like, singing "Bruise Violet," 574 00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:21,080 one of our songs, and like, playing air guitar. 575 00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:22,481 And I was just like, oh my God. 576 00:26:22,548 --> 00:26:24,984 You know, I recognized him as Timothy Leary. 577 00:26:25,051 --> 00:26:29,321 Turn on, tune in, drop out. 578 00:26:29,388 --> 00:26:32,358 HERMAN: So, he introduced us at the shows. 579 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:35,261 LEARY: It's Lollapalooza '93. 580 00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:38,831 And we've got one of the greatest bands 581 00:26:38,898 --> 00:26:41,067 of the 21st century. 582 00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:46,138 From Minneapolis, Babes in Toyland! 583 00:26:46,205 --> 00:26:48,741 [Babes in Toyland, "Bruise Violet"] 584 00:26:52,979 --> 00:26:55,481 HERMAN: The one thing that was hard with Lollapalooza 585 00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:57,684 was we had to spend a lot of money 586 00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:00,019 because we were women, you know? 587 00:27:00,086 --> 00:27:02,554 Basically to tour. 588 00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:05,324 * Yeah... * 589 00:27:05,391 --> 00:27:09,095 They had showers set up for like the roadies and stuff, 590 00:27:09,161 --> 00:27:10,763 and the bands could use 'em. 591 00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:12,431 Except like, for us, it was like, 592 00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:13,800 "Oh, do you really wanna-- 593 00:27:13,866 --> 00:27:15,634 do you really wanna shower with the truckers?" 594 00:27:15,702 --> 00:27:20,807 You know, so-- so we would get day rooms in the hotels, 595 00:27:20,873 --> 00:27:22,308 which kinda cost us money. 596 00:27:22,374 --> 00:27:23,943 So, I remember I came home from Lollapalooza 597 00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:25,812 and had to borrow rent money from my mom. 598 00:27:25,878 --> 00:27:27,947 [laughing] 599 00:27:28,014 --> 00:27:30,549 [people chattering] 600 00:27:37,356 --> 00:27:39,225 You did? Well, you had a reason 601 00:27:39,291 --> 00:27:41,127 - to do that, so... - I was pissed. 602 00:27:41,193 --> 00:27:43,262 - Yeah. - Pissed off. 603 00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:45,965 And drunk and on ecstasy at the same time. 604 00:27:46,032 --> 00:27:47,666 Isn't it supposed to make you happy? 605 00:27:49,035 --> 00:27:51,570 HERMAN: My friend Tom Morello, who I went to high school with, 606 00:27:51,637 --> 00:27:53,472 and my friend Adam Jones from Tool, 607 00:27:53,539 --> 00:27:55,107 who I went to high school with, 608 00:27:55,174 --> 00:27:58,377 we all played Lollapalooza the same year, which was crazy. 609 00:27:58,444 --> 00:28:00,947 [laughing] It's just so crazy. 610 00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:02,815 And were you kinda nervous going up on the big stage? 611 00:28:02,882 --> 00:28:04,717 Yeah, yeah. There's far too many kids, 612 00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:07,820 and they're very intimidating, and they didn't like us. 613 00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:09,421 - They didn't like you? - No. 614 00:28:09,488 --> 00:28:10,890 - I couldn't tell. - I don't buy that for... 615 00:28:10,957 --> 00:28:12,825 They were fucking going like this, I couldn't tell. 616 00:28:12,892 --> 00:28:14,226 - That's a good thing. - I think they were looking 617 00:28:14,293 --> 00:28:15,561 - for something. - No, that's a good thing. 618 00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:17,229 Adam Jones, the guitarist of Tool, 619 00:28:17,296 --> 00:28:18,597 and Maureen Herman, the bass player 620 00:28:18,664 --> 00:28:21,267 of Babes in Toyland, we were all in the same 621 00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:23,602 kinda high school classes, close friends. 622 00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:27,606 And we woke up one day, like on adjacent tour buses, 623 00:28:27,673 --> 00:28:29,942 going like, "What hath God wrought?" 624 00:28:30,009 --> 00:28:33,312 And here we were in '93 touring the nation together 625 00:28:33,379 --> 00:28:36,515 on the most anticipated tour of the summer. 626 00:28:36,582 --> 00:28:38,350 [Tool, "Prison Sex"] 627 00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:41,821 PINFIELD: Two bands had graduated from the small stage, 628 00:28:41,888 --> 00:28:43,689 being Rage Against the Machine and Tool, 629 00:28:43,756 --> 00:28:46,325 to being now part headliners there. 630 00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:49,595 It was a great nod 631 00:28:49,661 --> 00:28:52,431 to the visionary side of Lollapalooza. 632 00:28:52,498 --> 00:28:56,335 * It took so long to remember just what happened * 633 00:28:56,402 --> 00:28:58,670 * I was so young and vestal then * 634 00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:01,107 RUBELI: By the time '93 came around, 635 00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:03,375 we're playing these gigantic venues. 636 00:29:03,442 --> 00:29:06,779 A lot of the places that we're playing are fields. 637 00:29:06,846 --> 00:29:08,280 What else can we do? 638 00:29:08,347 --> 00:29:11,083 And it was decided, well, we'll have another stage. 639 00:29:12,284 --> 00:29:15,654 A third stage. We'll do more music. 640 00:29:15,721 --> 00:29:18,657 ROSS: John put ads in fanzines, 641 00:29:18,724 --> 00:29:20,492 "Do you wanna play on Lollapalooza?" 642 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:24,997 If you walked in his office, there were cassette tapes 643 00:29:25,064 --> 00:29:27,433 at least two-feet deep, 644 00:29:27,499 --> 00:29:30,402 and John would be sitting on the floor with a boombox 645 00:29:30,469 --> 00:29:33,505 literally listening to all of them. 646 00:29:33,572 --> 00:29:35,875 * Soon to fall * 647 00:29:35,942 --> 00:29:37,609 RUBELI: I liked the band Sebadoh, 648 00:29:37,676 --> 00:29:39,711 and the main person in that band 649 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,681 used to be in Dinosaur Jr. 650 00:29:42,748 --> 00:29:44,716 [music] 651 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:47,719 I really liked the band Mercury Rev an awful lot. 652 00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:52,825 They added this musicality and dimension 653 00:29:52,892 --> 00:29:55,327 that wasn't featured on the main stage. 654 00:29:56,662 --> 00:29:58,931 The other thing that was important that year 655 00:29:58,998 --> 00:30:00,499 was to include local bands. 656 00:30:02,401 --> 00:30:07,773 So, it wasn't just this elitist corporate festival coming in. 657 00:30:08,841 --> 00:30:12,044 By now, Lollapalooza is a mainstream phenomenon, 658 00:30:12,111 --> 00:30:15,781 and there's something that a lot of those Lollapalooza bands 659 00:30:15,848 --> 00:30:17,116 have in common. 660 00:30:17,183 --> 00:30:18,951 I call it punk rock guilt. 661 00:30:19,018 --> 00:30:21,787 These were bands that had a point of view 662 00:30:21,854 --> 00:30:26,225 that was dismissive of sort of the arena rock vibe. 663 00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:28,060 And yet, they were selling enough records 664 00:30:28,127 --> 00:30:29,395 to be playing arenas. 665 00:30:29,461 --> 00:30:32,431 This caused a real, you know, in-- 666 00:30:32,498 --> 00:30:35,134 I know it was in Kurt Cobain and I know it was in Eddie Vedder. 667 00:30:35,201 --> 00:30:37,003 I know it was in my band, I know it was in Nine Inch Nails, 668 00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:39,071 I know it was in Tool. Not that long ago, 669 00:30:39,138 --> 00:30:40,739 bands that you despised 670 00:30:40,806 --> 00:30:42,674 were playing those arenas. Have you become them? 671 00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:48,014 * I'm not like them, but I can pretend * 672 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,917 * The sun is gone, but I have... * 673 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,306 GEIGER: Nirvana, the Beastie Boys, 674 00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:17,609 and the Pumpkins, we all had meetings. 675 00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:20,779 We had George Clinton and Nick Cave, 676 00:31:20,846 --> 00:31:23,349 and the Breeders, Stereolab, and Patti Smith, 677 00:31:23,415 --> 00:31:25,184 and the Verve, and The Pharcyde. 678 00:31:25,251 --> 00:31:29,455 And that year was gonna be epic. 679 00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:33,559 MULLER: So, we were planning the festival, 680 00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:36,462 and Nirvana thought about it, but you know, 681 00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:38,164 decided that they couldn't do it. 682 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:39,298 Kurt couldn't do it. 683 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:42,634 GEIGER: Kurt was terrified of selling out, 684 00:31:42,701 --> 00:31:45,237 and Lolla was a sell-out moment I think for them. 685 00:31:46,572 --> 00:31:48,474 RUBELI: You know, he very clearly at that point 686 00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:51,143 was talking about how he looked in the audience 687 00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:54,246 and he saw all the people that were beating him up in school. 688 00:31:54,313 --> 00:31:56,015 And me too, right? 689 00:31:56,082 --> 00:31:59,285 Like, Nirvana was, you know, everything to us. 690 00:31:59,351 --> 00:32:03,789 When you're alongside something that once-in-a-generation, 691 00:32:03,855 --> 00:32:07,893 once-in-a-lifetime, it just affects you in every way. 692 00:32:09,361 --> 00:32:12,864 FARRELL: I had heard that Kurt escaped from a rehab, 693 00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:16,768 and they actually wondered if I knew where he was. 694 00:32:19,071 --> 00:32:21,407 So, I did not know where he was. 695 00:32:21,473 --> 00:32:23,642 And then... 696 00:32:25,611 --> 00:32:28,214 a few days later... 697 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,017 they told me that he had shot himself. 698 00:32:32,251 --> 00:32:34,053 Kurt Cobain, the leader of one of rock's 699 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,056 most gifted and promising bands, Nirvana, is dead. 700 00:32:37,123 --> 00:32:39,791 Police found what is said to be a suicide note at the scene, 701 00:32:39,858 --> 00:32:42,728 but have not yet divulged its contents. 702 00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:45,364 And we're really gonna miss him. He was a very sweet man. 703 00:32:45,431 --> 00:32:48,234 Nirvana was a very, very bright and promising group, 704 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:50,202 and that promise has now been pretty much extinguished. 705 00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:57,376 I just don't even want to accept it, 'cause... 706 00:32:59,745 --> 00:33:01,113 then it just means you carry on, 707 00:33:01,180 --> 00:33:02,814 and that just seems really strange. 708 00:33:03,949 --> 00:33:06,152 And yet, if you don't, what does that mean, you know? 709 00:33:10,256 --> 00:33:12,458 I think everyone felt in shock. 710 00:33:12,524 --> 00:33:14,026 I think-- of course. 711 00:33:14,093 --> 00:33:15,794 I mean, it was so tragic and horrible. 712 00:33:15,861 --> 00:33:19,231 So, when Kurt died, it almost felt like kinda-- 713 00:33:19,298 --> 00:33:21,333 it was the end of an era. 714 00:33:25,604 --> 00:33:28,040 MAN: There's a magical place with band after band 715 00:33:28,107 --> 00:33:30,409 playing magical music while you get sun-tanned. 716 00:33:30,476 --> 00:33:32,178 Lollapalooza! 717 00:33:32,244 --> 00:33:34,480 Here comes the coolest apparition this summer. 718 00:33:34,546 --> 00:33:37,249 Smashing Pumpkins, Beastie Boys, The Breeders, 719 00:33:37,316 --> 00:33:39,118 George Clinton, L7, 720 00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:40,586 plus mucho more. 721 00:33:40,652 --> 00:33:42,688 Between bands, look into the future 722 00:33:42,754 --> 00:33:44,690 down the Lollapalooza super highway, 723 00:33:44,756 --> 00:33:46,858 the online cyberlink that lets you talk 724 00:33:46,925 --> 00:33:48,794 long-distance via computer. 725 00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:50,996 Lollapalooza '94, a hypnotic way 726 00:33:51,063 --> 00:33:52,464 to spend a hot spell. 727 00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:54,166 This MTV Lollapalooza Tour... 728 00:33:54,233 --> 00:33:57,236 [faint live music playing] 729 00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:09,648 RUBELI: When Kurt passed, I think everyone decided 730 00:34:09,715 --> 00:34:14,820 we have to continue celebrating 731 00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:16,987 what it is to be the Kurts of the world. 732 00:34:17,054 --> 00:34:19,291 Because everybody has to be their own person, you know? 733 00:34:19,358 --> 00:34:22,293 I mean, you can't always depend on other people 734 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,696 to let yourself go the right path. 735 00:34:24,763 --> 00:34:27,666 And what happened that summer is everyone came together. 736 00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:34,473 * We were rich once before your head exploded * 737 00:34:34,540 --> 00:34:38,009 * Imagine doing just what the Big Bang did * 738 00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:46,717 * The whole world knew it was loaded * 739 00:34:46,784 --> 00:34:51,657 * Wave bye-bye 'cause it ain't ever coming down now * 740 00:34:56,128 --> 00:34:57,396 Somebody said, you know, 741 00:34:57,463 --> 00:35:00,366 the big whiny college rock comment, 742 00:35:00,432 --> 00:35:03,269 "There's nothing alternative about Lollapalooza anymore." 743 00:35:03,335 --> 00:35:07,473 To me, alternative-- I would think it would just mean 744 00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:10,376 an alternative frame of mind. 745 00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:14,146 People that are into, like, peace, and science, 746 00:35:14,213 --> 00:35:15,781 and music, and art. 747 00:35:17,015 --> 00:35:18,684 Hey, even Parrotheads love this, man. 748 00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:20,186 We're all into this kind of music. 749 00:35:20,252 --> 00:35:21,487 It's a good thing, you got all these people 750 00:35:21,553 --> 00:35:23,021 from different-- I mean, different types of people 751 00:35:23,088 --> 00:35:24,723 listen to this music, it's just a great thing. 752 00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:26,225 It's a great-- I mean, I can't beat this. 753 00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:28,494 I got people here with me that have never seen this kind-- 754 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,329 listened to this kind of music before, you know, 755 00:35:30,396 --> 00:35:34,166 I'm breaking 'em into it, stuff, making 'em listen to XRT, Q101. 756 00:35:34,233 --> 00:35:37,736 The irony of alternative is, once you identify it, 757 00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:41,473 market to it, label it, you can't inhabit it 758 00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:43,575 as alternative anymore, 'cause it's not. 759 00:35:43,642 --> 00:35:46,545 And so, I think in many ways, 760 00:35:46,612 --> 00:35:49,080 what we tried to do on the main stage, 761 00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:51,483 and what we tried to do on the second stage 762 00:35:51,550 --> 00:35:55,120 is make sure that we were pushing the envelope creatively. 763 00:35:55,187 --> 00:35:57,323 WOMAN: My man, would you like to dance? 764 00:35:57,389 --> 00:35:59,925 Future husband material, ladies and gentlemen. 765 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:01,460 - Future husband material. - Pass him up here. 766 00:36:01,527 --> 00:36:03,262 - Bring him up here. - Wrap him in swaddling cloth 767 00:36:03,329 --> 00:36:04,796 and take him backstage. 768 00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:07,799 [cheers and applause] 769 00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:09,901 See, now you all could have come backstage 770 00:36:09,968 --> 00:36:12,571 if you had "L7" shaved into your head. 771 00:36:12,638 --> 00:36:15,874 L7 was from the L.A. underground art punk scene, 772 00:36:15,941 --> 00:36:19,311 and we had such high hopes for Lollapalooza in '94. 773 00:36:19,378 --> 00:36:23,081 But we were tapping our feet going, okay... 774 00:36:23,148 --> 00:36:25,384 when are we getting the call? 775 00:36:25,451 --> 00:36:27,586 So, we send a fax to this meeting 776 00:36:27,653 --> 00:36:31,290 that says, "Dear Lollapalooza, 777 00:36:31,357 --> 00:36:35,461 who does L7 have to blow to serve Coors at Lollapalooza?" 778 00:36:35,527 --> 00:36:36,895 And it was signed, 779 00:36:36,962 --> 00:36:40,632 "L, always the bridesmaids, never the brides, 7." 780 00:36:40,699 --> 00:36:42,368 - Yippee! - Here, kitty, kitty, kitty, 781 00:36:42,434 --> 00:36:44,803 - kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty... - Boom-boom. 782 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:49,107 So, we got the offer, but we had to push the issue, 783 00:36:49,174 --> 00:36:50,976 and we had to fight for it. 784 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:55,647 'Cause that's how much we wanted to be on Lollapalooza. 785 00:36:55,714 --> 00:36:57,683 And more importantly, that's how much 786 00:36:57,749 --> 00:37:00,352 we felt we deserved to be on Lollapalooza. 787 00:37:00,419 --> 00:37:04,723 But we've-- we've had to kick down doors a lot in our career. 788 00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:08,260 * Down in North Hollywood * 789 00:37:08,327 --> 00:37:11,330 * There's a guy with long hair... * 790 00:37:11,397 --> 00:37:13,999 MICO: I don't think that women were represented 791 00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:16,335 nearly enough at Lollapalooza. 792 00:37:16,402 --> 00:37:18,370 But when they were represented, 793 00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:20,171 they were there because they rock. 794 00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:22,774 [L7, "Pretend We're Dead"] 795 00:37:24,376 --> 00:37:26,812 HOPPER: First year of Lolla, you have Siouxsie. 796 00:37:26,878 --> 00:37:30,349 Second year, only women on the bill are Lush. 797 00:37:30,416 --> 00:37:33,852 And then, year three, you have Babes in Toyland. 798 00:37:33,919 --> 00:37:37,489 And there was women in Arrested Development too. 799 00:37:37,556 --> 00:37:41,360 * Turn the tables with our unity * 800 00:37:41,427 --> 00:37:44,963 * They're neither moral nor majority... * 801 00:37:46,332 --> 00:37:48,667 You know, but you look at that now and just go, 802 00:37:48,734 --> 00:37:51,437 seems like women were an afterthought. 803 00:37:51,503 --> 00:37:55,006 Which is really wild, because it was women. 804 00:37:55,073 --> 00:37:58,009 It was women who really helped break alternative music. 805 00:37:58,076 --> 00:38:00,612 [singing indistinctly] 806 00:38:03,415 --> 00:38:05,451 You know, people say, "Oh, it's noise." 807 00:38:05,517 --> 00:38:07,419 - Like, you know, it's... - Yeah. 808 00:38:07,486 --> 00:38:14,360 I mean, we didn't set out to be noisy or industrial, or... 809 00:38:14,426 --> 00:38:17,262 We were heavily influenced by the early Beastie Boys. 810 00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:19,297 - Yeah. - Early hardcore. 811 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,435 * Ahh, ahh... * 812 00:38:23,502 --> 00:38:25,437 HERMAN: Entertainment Weekly came out to do a shoot 813 00:38:25,504 --> 00:38:28,039 at one of the shows, and then the issue comes out, 814 00:38:28,106 --> 00:38:30,342 and I think they probably thought 815 00:38:30,409 --> 00:38:31,710 when they were choosing pictures 816 00:38:31,777 --> 00:38:33,612 that it was one of me rocking out. 817 00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:37,516 But it was actually me, like, pulling up my bra strap. 818 00:38:37,583 --> 00:38:40,018 And I'm like... [laughing] 819 00:38:40,085 --> 00:38:41,687 And I'm sure nobody noticed, but I'm like, 820 00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:43,889 of course, I get on the cover with my tongue sticking out 821 00:38:43,955 --> 00:38:46,224 pulling up my bra strap. 822 00:38:46,291 --> 00:38:47,559 Who did you come to see today? 823 00:38:47,626 --> 00:38:48,827 Oh, I came to see A Tribe Called Quest 824 00:38:48,894 --> 00:38:50,228 and Smashing Pumpkins. 825 00:38:50,295 --> 00:38:51,296 - And the Beastie Boys. - And the Beastie Boys. 826 00:38:51,363 --> 00:38:52,931 - L7. - L7 and Flaming Lips. 827 00:38:52,998 --> 00:38:54,099 - Yeah. - George Clinton! 828 00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:55,434 So, everybody I've talked to today 829 00:38:55,501 --> 00:38:58,069 is really excited about having you on this tour. 830 00:38:58,136 --> 00:39:00,439 I'm glad, 'cause we was worried. We was worried, you know. 831 00:39:00,506 --> 00:39:02,408 George, you don't know, you have so many admirers 832 00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:03,709 - on this tour. - Well, you know, 833 00:39:03,775 --> 00:39:06,011 we usually have three or four hours and stuff. 834 00:39:06,077 --> 00:39:08,480 You know, we had to cut it down to 45. 835 00:39:08,547 --> 00:39:10,348 And we tried to conform, even though people 836 00:39:10,416 --> 00:39:11,617 don't believe we'd do that. 837 00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:14,420 [cheers and applause] 838 00:39:14,486 --> 00:39:16,555 WOMAN: Describe George Clinton, 'cause George Clinton's a trip. 839 00:39:16,622 --> 00:39:18,056 WOMAN 2: Yeah, he was, like, really wild. 840 00:39:18,123 --> 00:39:19,425 There was this guy in diapers, and then he was like... 841 00:39:19,491 --> 00:39:20,926 - Wedding dress. - Yeah, and then he would-- 842 00:39:20,992 --> 00:39:22,428 then he changed into a wedding dress, 843 00:39:22,494 --> 00:39:23,929 and then he had on these, like, little fur things, 844 00:39:23,995 --> 00:39:26,432 and then his underpants, so he's bending over like that. 845 00:39:26,498 --> 00:39:30,502 * That's it, goddamn, the old-school way to jam * 846 00:39:30,569 --> 00:39:35,841 FARRELL: There I was, 1994, partying with some of the crew 847 00:39:35,907 --> 00:39:39,411 of George Clinton's band. 848 00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:42,180 [band playing] 849 00:39:42,247 --> 00:39:44,950 That's why I don't remember that much about it. 850 00:39:45,016 --> 00:39:49,187 * All sons of bitches, all sons of bitches * 851 00:39:49,254 --> 00:39:51,790 [laughing] 852 00:39:51,857 --> 00:39:55,360 Welcome to dollop of losers. How was your first couple shows? 853 00:39:55,427 --> 00:39:57,228 - Um... - It rocked, man. 854 00:39:57,295 --> 00:39:58,664 - They did the wave. - That was right. 855 00:39:58,730 --> 00:40:00,031 - They did the wave. - They did that rock wave thing. 856 00:40:00,098 --> 00:40:01,533 It was cool, I guess. 857 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,068 Thank you very much. Thank you. 858 00:40:03,134 --> 00:40:06,071 I very seldom hear Perry say no, 859 00:40:06,137 --> 00:40:09,074 except when he said no to Green Day. 860 00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:13,812 Mo Ostin was still the president at Warner Brothers, 861 00:40:13,879 --> 00:40:16,948 and he had this new group that he had discovered. 862 00:40:17,015 --> 00:40:20,185 * I sit around and watch the tube * 863 00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:23,021 * But nothing's on * 864 00:40:23,088 --> 00:40:25,891 FARRELL: Then he took me into his office to ask, 865 00:40:25,957 --> 00:40:28,159 "Would you put 'em on Lollapalooza?" 866 00:40:30,596 --> 00:40:34,299 I told him no at first because I didn't want him 867 00:40:34,365 --> 00:40:36,201 to think he could just come to me 868 00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:39,971 and put people on there. 869 00:40:40,038 --> 00:40:41,707 It doesn't work that way. [laughing] 870 00:40:41,773 --> 00:40:43,909 [Green Day, "Longview"] 871 00:40:43,975 --> 00:40:45,276 But I was like, "Dude, why?" 872 00:40:45,343 --> 00:40:49,515 I was like, "Listen, they inhabit the gumption, 873 00:40:49,581 --> 00:40:51,282 "attitude, and posturing. 874 00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:54,853 It reminds me a lot of you back in the day." 875 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,123 So, Perry's compromise was, "I'm gonna book the Boredoms." 876 00:40:58,189 --> 00:41:00,726 [singing indistinctly] 877 00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:05,631 RUBELI: So, they'll do half and Green Day 878 00:41:05,697 --> 00:41:06,865 will do the other half. 879 00:41:07,933 --> 00:41:11,937 * You're the cloud hanging out over my head * 880 00:41:12,003 --> 00:41:15,974 DONNELLY: In '92, '93, '94, there was a band 881 00:41:16,041 --> 00:41:18,677 that was on the rise that actually would steal the show. 882 00:41:18,744 --> 00:41:22,413 So, in '92, it was Pearl Jam, '93, it was Rage, 883 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,315 and in '94, it was Green Day. 884 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,519 So, there's this band on the rise 885 00:41:27,586 --> 00:41:29,454 that was playing earlier in the day 886 00:41:29,521 --> 00:41:32,558 that was almost as popular as the headliner. 887 00:41:32,624 --> 00:41:34,593 Hi, this is Billy from the Smashing Pumpkins. 888 00:41:34,660 --> 00:41:37,062 I'm here with my longtime bandmate, 889 00:41:37,128 --> 00:41:39,631 Mr. James "Eye-ha." 890 00:41:39,698 --> 00:41:41,900 Wait, that's "Ee-ha." 891 00:41:41,967 --> 00:41:46,271 Let's take this opportunity to demystify the woman in rock. 892 00:41:46,337 --> 00:41:48,306 Seeing as people always ask us this stupid question, 893 00:41:48,373 --> 00:41:49,908 let's ask each other the stupid question. 894 00:41:49,975 --> 00:41:53,478 I was just gonna ask you not to ask me any stupid questions. 895 00:41:53,545 --> 00:41:56,514 RUBELI: For me, that year was the peak of Lollapalooza. 896 00:41:56,582 --> 00:41:57,816 There were some of the most 897 00:41:57,883 --> 00:41:59,317 magical performances that summer. 898 00:41:59,384 --> 00:42:00,786 I got to see the Beastie Boys every single night. 899 00:42:00,852 --> 00:42:04,856 * I can't stand it, I know you planned it * 900 00:42:04,923 --> 00:42:07,292 * I'm gonna set it straight, this Watergate * 901 00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:10,128 * I can't stand rocking when I'm in here * 902 00:42:10,195 --> 00:42:13,198 * Your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear, so... * 903 00:42:13,264 --> 00:42:14,532 RUBELI: I mean, say what you will 904 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,534 about the Beastie Boys and the Smashing Pumpkins 905 00:42:16,602 --> 00:42:19,004 becoming mainstream. 906 00:42:19,070 --> 00:42:21,973 Both those acts earned their place 907 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,577 because the audience that was there revered them both. 908 00:42:25,644 --> 00:42:27,145 And I can honestly say that the Beasties 909 00:42:27,212 --> 00:42:29,347 have a lot of influence on a lot of the bands 910 00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:30,649 that are on the bill this year, 911 00:42:30,716 --> 00:42:32,751 so maybe you wanna talk about that. 912 00:42:32,818 --> 00:42:36,354 Um... well... [laughing] 913 00:42:36,421 --> 00:42:37,823 Well, okay, I'm... 914 00:42:37,889 --> 00:42:40,859 Turned out to be an unbelievable year. 915 00:42:40,926 --> 00:42:44,329 Set attendance records, Green Day was breaking. 916 00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:47,432 That was probably the end of phase one that year. 917 00:42:49,534 --> 00:42:51,670 * 'Cause you can't, you won't, and you don't stop * 918 00:42:51,737 --> 00:42:53,972 * 'Cause you can't, you won't, and you don't stop * 919 00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:57,408 By that point, Lollapalooza was bigger 920 00:42:57,475 --> 00:42:59,244 than we could have imagined. 921 00:42:59,310 --> 00:43:01,680 * And I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew, yeah * 922 00:43:01,747 --> 00:43:03,014 * 'Cause you can't, you won't, and you don't stop... * 923 00:43:03,081 --> 00:43:05,851 FARRELL: It was going so well, and you know, 924 00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:09,320 when the car is rolling and it's going real, real fast, 925 00:43:09,387 --> 00:43:11,657 it gets harder and harder to jump out. 926 00:43:11,723 --> 00:43:15,460 * Rock the sure shot... ** 927 00:43:19,264 --> 00:43:23,802 ROSS: I remember the press in '94 slagging us, 928 00:43:23,869 --> 00:43:27,338 saying Lollapalooza has lost it. 929 00:43:27,405 --> 00:43:31,476 Lollapalooza was never designed to be a festival 930 00:43:31,542 --> 00:43:33,712 of platinum-selling acts. 931 00:43:33,779 --> 00:43:37,248 So, I think we hit a little bit of a bump in the road then. 932 00:43:37,315 --> 00:43:39,885 [Metallica, "Master of Puppets"] 933 00:43:39,951 --> 00:43:41,386 ROBINSON: When I found out that Metallica 934 00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:43,689 was going to be on Lollapalooza, 935 00:43:43,755 --> 00:43:47,659 my first thought was, 936 00:43:47,726 --> 00:43:51,262 what the fuck do they have to do with Lollapalooza? 937 00:43:51,329 --> 00:43:53,331 Oh my God. 938 00:43:53,398 --> 00:43:56,534 Here come the bad boys of hard rock. 939 00:43:56,601 --> 00:43:58,103 Ooh! 940 00:43:58,169 --> 00:44:03,308 * Obey your master ** 941 00:44:03,374 --> 00:44:05,911 [rock music] 73893

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