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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,765 --> 00:00:17,257 (guitar music) 2 00:00:26,151 --> 00:00:27,266 - I had talked to Terry in the morning, 3 00:00:27,569 --> 00:00:28,354 and he says, "You coming over?" 4 00:00:28,654 --> 00:00:29,894 I say, "Okay. " 5 00:00:30,197 --> 00:00:31,062 Well, when you've been up for a couple days, 6 00:00:31,365 --> 00:00:34,278 things get discombobulated, the processes, 7 00:00:34,576 --> 00:00:36,658 and what happened was, Terry was playing with the gun, 8 00:00:36,954 --> 00:00:39,787 that stupid little automatic he had, 9 00:00:41,166 --> 00:00:42,122 and he just played with the gun, 10 00:00:42,417 --> 00:00:43,748 and he just went like that, "Hey, John." 11 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:44,784 Boom, boom. 12 00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:48,749 Just that, 13 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:50,710 and I hate it when people say, 14 00:00:51,009 --> 00:00:51,714 "Oh, he committed suicide." 15 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:53,500 You're full of shit. 16 00:00:56,265 --> 00:00:57,551 They don't know shit. 17 00:00:57,849 --> 00:00:59,886 They just wanna be sensational. 18 00:01:00,185 --> 00:01:02,597 (guitar music) 19 00:01:08,777 --> 00:01:10,688 - He was the leader of the band. 20 00:01:10,988 --> 00:01:12,103 You know What I mean. 21 00:01:12,406 --> 00:01:13,896 "One, two, three." 22 00:01:14,199 --> 00:01:15,985 He was the leader of the band. 23 00:01:16,285 --> 00:01:18,697 (guitar music) 24 00:01:23,875 --> 00:01:25,707 - Terry was really soulful. 25 00:01:26,003 --> 00:01:27,368 Really pretty voice. 26 00:01:27,671 --> 00:01:30,083 (guitar music) 27 00:01:36,805 --> 00:01:38,637 - Terry Kath was an innovator, 28 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:40,718 to the point Where Jimmy Hendrix 29 00:01:41,018 --> 00:01:43,055 was blown away by Terry's playing. 30 00:01:43,353 --> 00:01:45,594 (rock music) 31 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:52,985 - When we were locked, Terry and I, it was fun. 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,521 (rock music) 33 00:01:57,242 --> 00:01:59,028 - He was the most wonderful guitar player. 34 00:01:59,328 --> 00:02:01,194 He was the fastest I've ever seen. 35 00:02:01,496 --> 00:02:03,737 (rock music) 36 00:02:07,044 --> 00:02:08,876 - I spent a lot of time wondering 37 00:02:09,171 --> 00:02:12,835 how in the world does he get a guitar to sound like that? 38 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:15,374 (rock music) 39 00:02:48,210 --> 00:02:50,292 - I never knew my dad. 40 00:02:50,587 --> 00:02:52,203 I know that he was the lead guitarist 41 00:02:52,506 --> 00:02:55,248 and co-founding member of the band, Chicago. 42 00:02:55,550 --> 00:02:58,258 I know that he loved my mother and me very much, 43 00:02:58,553 --> 00:02:59,839 and his music provided a soundtrack 44 00:03:00,138 --> 00:03:02,129 to many of my experiences. 45 00:03:04,226 --> 00:03:05,762 People who knew him are often struck 46 00:03:06,061 --> 00:03:07,472 by how similar we look, 47 00:03:07,771 --> 00:03:09,853 and even how similar we seem, 48 00:03:10,148 --> 00:03:13,436 but to me, he's been a relative mystery, 49 00:03:13,735 --> 00:03:16,067 and I began to search for clues to who he was. 50 00:03:16,363 --> 00:03:19,856 I Oh my reasons and my ways 51 00:03:21,785 --> 00:03:26,495 I Keep on changing from day to day 52 00:03:26,790 --> 00:03:31,830 I As I do it becomes so clear 53 00:03:32,587 --> 00:03:35,079 I Why I'm here 54 00:03:39,761 --> 00:03:41,752 After the birth of my first child, 55 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:43,136 I found a box of my mom's 56 00:03:43,432 --> 00:03:46,345 that she had tucked away in a closet. 57 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:48,225 It was filled with love letters, 58 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,352 photos and compositions. 59 00:03:51,898 --> 00:03:54,014 But What was most exciting to me, 60 00:03:54,317 --> 00:03:57,651 was my dad's eight millimeter home movies. 61 00:03:58,405 --> 00:04:01,488 It was like getting a glimpse into his mind, 62 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:03,740 snapshots of things beyond his music 63 00:04:04,035 --> 00:04:06,823 that meant something to him. 64 00:04:07,122 --> 00:04:09,454 Life on the road, my mom, 65 00:04:10,333 --> 00:04:11,949 me, as a baby. 66 00:04:13,837 --> 00:04:16,420 This was our last Christmas together. 67 00:04:17,799 --> 00:04:20,712 He died tragically before my second birthday. 68 00:04:21,011 --> 00:04:23,594 (dramatic music) 69 00:04:28,393 --> 00:04:31,351 This is the neighborhood my dad grew up in, really. 70 00:04:31,646 --> 00:04:33,307 His house is close by. 71 00:04:34,316 --> 00:04:36,273 They walked these streets. 72 00:04:36,568 --> 00:04:40,402 I Looking back a few short years 73 00:04:40,697 --> 00:04:41,437 Uncle Rod. 74 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:44,485 - How are you? - Hello, Uncle Rod. 75 00:04:44,785 --> 00:04:45,820 - Good to see you. 76 00:04:46,119 --> 00:04:48,406 - Uncle Rod left at 6:30 in the morning to meet us. 77 00:04:48,705 --> 00:04:50,787 - Oh, absolutely. To beat the rush hour traffic. 78 00:04:51,082 --> 00:04:51,992 I used to live here. 79 00:04:53,376 --> 00:04:57,040 I Clinging to our confidence 80 00:04:59,841 --> 00:05:03,505 I We stood on the threshold of the goal 81 00:05:03,804 --> 00:05:05,340 - The reason Why I wanted to focus so much 82 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:07,926 on the Kath's Lake Placid Lodge 83 00:05:08,225 --> 00:05:10,637 is because you guys spent a lot of time there 84 00:05:10,936 --> 00:05:12,768 and a lot of the interviews and the stories I'm getting, 85 00:05:13,063 --> 00:05:16,146 everyone talks about this need my dad had 86 00:05:16,441 --> 00:05:19,604 to get back to nature and be in this place, 87 00:05:19,903 --> 00:05:23,146 this environment you guys were raised in. 88 00:05:24,533 --> 00:05:26,524 - Well, it was a fantasy. 89 00:05:27,744 --> 00:05:28,529 And when you think about it, 90 00:05:28,829 --> 00:05:30,536 we grew up in the city of Chicago, 91 00:05:30,831 --> 00:05:32,447 our parents bought a piece of property, 92 00:05:32,749 --> 00:05:35,787 which was 160 acres with 5,000 feet of lake frontage 93 00:05:36,086 --> 00:05:38,327 that you couldn't drive to. 94 00:05:38,630 --> 00:05:40,041 - [Michelle] You were saying there was always 95 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:42,126 musical instruments lying around? 96 00:05:42,425 --> 00:05:44,132 - [Rod] Here Terry started playing, 97 00:05:44,427 --> 00:05:47,385 there were woodwinds, Clarinets, saxophone, 98 00:05:47,681 --> 00:05:49,342 accordion, and then Terry brought the guitar 99 00:05:49,641 --> 00:05:50,676 into the environment. 100 00:05:50,976 --> 00:05:52,011 - [Michelle] Do you know What might have 101 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:55,302 spurred that on, the need to pick up the guitar 102 00:05:55,605 --> 00:05:57,562 as opposed to anything else. 103 00:05:57,858 --> 00:05:59,724 Was he into any kind of music at the time? 104 00:06:00,026 --> 00:06:00,857 - [Rod] To defy my father. 105 00:06:01,152 --> 00:06:01,937 - [Michelle] To defy your father? 106 00:06:02,237 --> 00:06:03,568 - His father. (laughing) 107 00:06:03,864 --> 00:06:05,650 He didn't like those long haired creeps with the guitars. 108 00:06:05,949 --> 00:06:08,281 He didn't consider it to be music at the beginning. 109 00:06:08,577 --> 00:06:09,533 - [Michelle] That's so funny. 110 00:06:09,828 --> 00:06:11,569 - [Rod] And there was a little rebellion there, 111 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:14,660 but Terry had this innate ability 112 00:06:14,958 --> 00:06:17,746 to pick something up and start walking through it 113 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:21,287 and just pick up without any ability to read the music, 114 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:24,002 pick up the melody and play it. 115 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:29,128 - [Michelle] Can you tell me about the first time 116 00:06:29,431 --> 00:06:30,421 you met my dad? 117 00:06:30,724 --> 00:06:33,182 - We met at Boulevard Studios, 118 00:06:33,476 --> 00:06:36,844 and I decided for a little that sounded like Elvis, 119 00:06:37,147 --> 00:06:38,808 and we didn't hit it off right away, 120 00:06:39,107 --> 00:06:40,893 but got really friendly 121 00:06:41,192 --> 00:06:42,307 and he'd stay over at my house, 122 00:06:42,611 --> 00:06:44,193 and we'd take records down, 123 00:06:44,487 --> 00:06:47,229 like Jack McDuff live at the Jazz Workshop, 124 00:06:47,532 --> 00:06:48,693 and he'd take the guitar licks off 125 00:06:48,992 --> 00:06:52,201 of George Benson and I'd try to take 126 00:06:52,495 --> 00:06:54,406 Red Holloway's licks off on the tenon 127 00:06:54,706 --> 00:06:57,414 and we'd just mess around and we hit it off. 128 00:06:57,709 --> 00:07:00,542 - I was 15 and a half, so he was 129 00:07:00,837 --> 00:07:03,704 The very first meeting, I passed the audition for the band, 130 00:07:04,007 --> 00:07:06,294 and I was just going to observe the drummer 131 00:07:06,593 --> 00:07:09,051 and gonna learn the songs and got here, said, 132 00:07:09,346 --> 00:07:10,632 "This is Terry, this is Danny. " 133 00:07:10,931 --> 00:07:14,890 He was so relaxed and cool and easy going and unpretentious. 134 00:07:15,185 --> 00:07:20,021 - I met Terry at Walt's parent's house in Chicago. 135 00:07:20,649 --> 00:07:23,437 My impression of Terry was one of the more amusing guys 136 00:07:23,735 --> 00:07:24,850 I've ever met. 137 00:07:25,153 --> 00:07:26,439 He was always up to something. 138 00:07:26,738 --> 00:07:30,151 He had a sense of mischief, 139 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:32,532 good natured mischief going on. 140 00:07:32,827 --> 00:07:33,988 - [Man 1] I think the first time I saw him, 141 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:36,403 you guys were playing a gig down at the Happy Medium. 142 00:07:36,706 --> 00:07:37,912 - [Man 2] The Pussy Cat A Go Go. 143 00:07:38,208 --> 00:07:39,164 - The Pussy Cat A Go Go? - Yeah. 144 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:40,244 With Missing Links. - Yeah. 145 00:07:40,543 --> 00:07:42,625 And he was playing bass. 146 00:07:42,921 --> 00:07:46,289 - [Man 2] He was playing bass with the Missing Links. 147 00:07:47,425 --> 00:07:51,089 - I remember, excuse me, just being blown away 148 00:07:51,388 --> 00:07:53,595 by his voice, 149 00:07:55,016 --> 00:07:57,633 the soul in his voice. 150 00:07:59,104 --> 00:08:07,104 I Every day I wake up crying 151 00:08:10,865 --> 00:08:13,277 I Every day 152 00:08:13,576 --> 00:08:15,158 - Yo. - Hello, how are you? 153 00:08:15,453 --> 00:08:16,409 - Morning everybody. 154 00:08:16,705 --> 00:08:17,991 - Good morning, been a while. 155 00:08:18,289 --> 00:08:19,245 - It's been a While. 156 00:08:19,541 --> 00:08:20,622 Hi. 157 00:08:20,917 --> 00:08:22,282 - This is Dennis Polkow. - Dennis, nice to meet you. 158 00:08:22,585 --> 00:08:23,290 - It's a great pleasure. 159 00:08:23,586 --> 00:08:25,168 May I? - Yes, of course. 160 00:08:25,463 --> 00:08:26,248 - [George] And this is Michy Saxe. 161 00:08:26,548 --> 00:08:28,255 - Hi, Micky. - How are you doing? 162 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:30,507 How are you? - Nice to meet you. 163 00:08:30,802 --> 00:08:31,382 Finally. 164 00:08:31,678 --> 00:08:32,634 - And doesn't she look like her, 165 00:08:32,929 --> 00:08:33,794 do you see a little- - It's, yeah. 166 00:08:34,097 --> 00:08:35,553 - It's uncanny, isn't it? - It really is. 167 00:08:35,849 --> 00:08:38,090 (rock music) 168 00:08:46,651 --> 00:08:48,187 - [Man] The music scene, the people, 169 00:08:48,486 --> 00:08:51,524 and most of the fans had long hair, 170 00:08:51,823 --> 00:08:53,484 most of the public had crew cuts. 171 00:08:53,783 --> 00:08:54,944 - Yes, exactly. 172 00:08:55,243 --> 00:08:56,904 It was a statement. 173 00:08:57,203 --> 00:09:00,116 Very definitely about how you felt about the war 174 00:09:00,415 --> 00:09:04,409 and how you felt about society in general. 175 00:09:04,711 --> 00:09:08,625 There was this phenomenon called show bands. 176 00:09:08,923 --> 00:09:11,915 What you're seeing when you see those early pictures 177 00:09:12,218 --> 00:09:14,835 of The Big Thing, or The Missing Links, 178 00:09:15,138 --> 00:09:17,049 and they're all in shark skin suits, 179 00:09:17,348 --> 00:09:19,134 that was the style then, 180 00:09:19,434 --> 00:09:21,801 and yes, it very much was about getting people 181 00:09:22,103 --> 00:09:24,265 to dance and to respond 182 00:09:24,564 --> 00:09:27,056 because this was music that they wouldn't know. 183 00:09:27,358 --> 00:09:30,942 The covers that they did were very unusual. 184 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:32,443 They were their own arrangements. 185 00:09:32,739 --> 00:09:33,353 - Their own take. 186 00:09:33,656 --> 00:09:35,146 - Yeah, their own take. 187 00:09:35,450 --> 00:09:37,691 That was always a challenge for the club owners, 188 00:09:37,994 --> 00:09:41,157 who of course, would much prefer a human jukebox. 189 00:09:41,539 --> 00:09:43,155 (rock music) 190 00:09:45,001 --> 00:09:46,412 - This was The Happy Medium, 191 00:09:46,711 --> 00:09:51,330 and upstairs was an actual performance for bigger acts. 192 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:54,546 Downstairs was a club called the Pussycat, 193 00:09:54,844 --> 00:09:56,960 and the Pussycat is Where most of the bands played. 194 00:09:57,263 --> 00:09:58,970 We'd come and see each other play. 195 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:00,596 Somebody would get off one gig 196 00:10:00,892 --> 00:10:04,010 and you'd end up, you'd in the back of the room 197 00:10:04,312 --> 00:10:05,302 and the guys were back there, 198 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:06,936 and that's how we were. 199 00:10:07,232 --> 00:10:08,438 We were family, 200 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:10,690 and especially that tie to DePaul, 201 00:10:10,985 --> 00:10:12,726 which was an important part, 202 00:10:13,029 --> 00:10:14,190 because there was a crew of us 203 00:10:14,489 --> 00:10:17,151 that came and went to different bands. 204 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:20,488 - This is where the music school was. 205 00:10:20,787 --> 00:10:22,869 It's the college of law, now, 206 00:10:23,164 --> 00:10:25,826 but this was on the original signs, Lewis Center, 207 00:10:26,126 --> 00:10:28,083 and the fifth floor of this building 208 00:10:28,378 --> 00:10:31,120 was where the music school was, 209 00:10:31,422 --> 00:10:33,880 and though your dad didn't actually go, 210 00:10:34,175 --> 00:10:35,040 he was a fixture. 211 00:10:35,343 --> 00:10:36,083 - Oh, he was there every- - Yeah. 212 00:10:36,386 --> 00:10:37,717 - He was there quite often. - Yeah. 213 00:10:38,012 --> 00:10:38,877 - I love it. - Yeah, yeah. 214 00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:39,840 - That's one way to go to college. 215 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:41,175 - That's one way to do. 216 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:42,805 - [Man] Terry, although we were trained musicians, 217 00:10:43,101 --> 00:10:45,012 Terry walked in and fit right in. 218 00:10:46,437 --> 00:10:47,848 - [Michelle] 80 you guys knew each other, 219 00:10:48,148 --> 00:10:48,933 when did you meet him? 220 00:10:49,232 --> 00:10:50,768 - I was at DePaul, so that's how I knew 221 00:10:51,067 --> 00:10:54,105 Walt and Lee and Jimmy. 222 00:10:55,697 --> 00:10:56,402 So I had left. 223 00:10:56,698 --> 00:10:57,859 I'm working with Dick Clark. 224 00:10:58,158 --> 00:10:59,068 We're on the road. 225 00:10:59,367 --> 00:11:02,450 We had a band and I was getting promoted up 226 00:11:02,745 --> 00:11:05,453 from the D band to the C band, 227 00:11:05,748 --> 00:11:09,742 and there was an opportunity when I got moved up. 228 00:11:10,044 --> 00:11:11,000 - And I said to the guys, 229 00:11:11,296 --> 00:11:12,411 I said, "Well is there room for Terry to come, 230 00:11:12,714 --> 00:11:14,796 “cause I'm not going otherwise. 231 00:11:15,091 --> 00:11:15,956 "You need a guitar player. " 232 00:11:16,259 --> 00:11:17,795 And he said, "You're talking to him." 233 00:11:18,094 --> 00:11:19,129 I said, "Well, then I can't go." 234 00:11:19,429 --> 00:11:21,261 And then for some reason, I thought, 235 00:11:21,556 --> 00:11:23,593 "Do you have a bass player?" 236 00:11:23,892 --> 00:11:25,883 And they said, "No." 237 00:11:26,186 --> 00:11:27,051 And I went back to Terry, I says, 238 00:11:27,353 --> 00:11:29,811 "Hey, we can go and travel from California 239 00:11:30,106 --> 00:11:32,188 "in a bus with all these acts and everything. 240 00:11:32,483 --> 00:11:33,814 "Would you wanna get a bass? 241 00:11:34,110 --> 00:11:38,274 "If you don't wanna get a bass, that's cool. 242 00:11:38,573 --> 00:11:40,189 "We'll just pass on this thing." 243 00:11:40,491 --> 00:11:41,981 He says, "I'll get a fender bass." 244 00:11:42,285 --> 00:11:43,650 And he got an echo bass. 245 00:11:43,953 --> 00:11:46,069 - We played a placed called Holiday Ballroom. 246 00:11:46,372 --> 00:11:49,114 We backed up Paul Revere and the Raiders 247 00:11:49,417 --> 00:11:51,875 and it was one show at Aaron Crown Theater, 248 00:11:52,170 --> 00:11:54,457 and then we did a road gig. 249 00:11:54,756 --> 00:11:56,497 That was an actual Dick Clark gig- 250 00:11:56,799 --> 00:11:58,039 It was the only one I got to do with him, 251 00:11:58,343 --> 00:12:00,755 with The Four Seasons and Little Anthony 252 00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:01,919 and the Imperial, the Yard Birds, 253 00:12:02,222 --> 00:12:04,304 first North American appearance. 254 00:12:04,599 --> 00:12:06,010 It was really mind blowing. 255 00:12:06,309 --> 00:12:08,050 - I was in another group in Chicago, 256 00:12:08,353 --> 00:12:10,845 and this new group, the Big Pink came. 257 00:12:11,147 --> 00:12:12,637 We actually played a gig together, 258 00:12:12,941 --> 00:12:14,397 and I think about the second night. 259 00:12:14,692 --> 00:12:16,558 He said, "Hey, we wanna talk to you. 260 00:12:16,861 --> 00:12:19,444 “We're looking for a bass player who sings." 261 00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:21,946 Your dad, he and I did not hit it off. 262 00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:24,483 He didn't like What I was playing on bass, 263 00:12:24,786 --> 00:12:25,992 and in about two weeks I said, 264 00:12:26,287 --> 00:12:27,948 "It's not working for me, guys." 265 00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:29,704 "Why, Why, Why?" 266 00:12:29,999 --> 00:12:31,910 Well Terry's not even talking to me, 267 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:35,623 he's grumpy, he's complaining about everything I'm playing, 268 00:12:35,922 --> 00:12:39,460 and Bobby said, "No. 269 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:40,373 "Never mind Terry. 270 00:12:40,677 --> 00:12:41,883 "Terry, you be nice." 271 00:12:42,178 --> 00:12:44,010 Or something, it was one of those "You be nice" moments 272 00:12:44,305 --> 00:12:46,171 and "We want you in the group and that's that." 273 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:48,090 And that's how it started. 274 00:12:48,393 --> 00:12:52,557 - Walt's idea was to be the kind of band 275 00:12:52,855 --> 00:12:54,516 that could work in night clubs 276 00:12:54,816 --> 00:12:56,181 and maybe even work in Las Vegas, 277 00:12:56,484 --> 00:13:01,945 that was about as far as Walt's vision was. 278 00:13:02,657 --> 00:13:04,773 I pulled Terry aside and I said "Terry, 279 00:13:05,076 --> 00:13:08,865 "Walt and I are gonna put a horn band together, 280 00:13:09,163 --> 00:13:11,029 "an all star band, and we want you to play guitar. 281 00:13:11,332 --> 00:13:12,197 "Not bass, guitar. 282 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:14,082 "Instead of going out to the west coast, 283 00:13:14,377 --> 00:13:17,039 "Why don't you stay here with us." 284 00:13:17,338 --> 00:13:18,419 And he thought about it and said, 285 00:13:18,715 --> 00:13:19,876 "Yeah, I don't wanna leave you guys. 286 00:13:20,174 --> 00:13:21,881 "Okay, I'm gonna stay, I'm in." 287 00:13:22,176 --> 00:13:26,044 So that was the beginning of Chicago Transit Authority, 288 00:13:26,347 --> 00:13:27,803 of course we weren't called that. 289 00:13:28,099 --> 00:13:30,431 - They were called The Big Thing, 290 00:13:30,727 --> 00:13:33,765 and they were playing in the suburbs. 291 00:13:34,063 --> 00:13:36,896 - Your dad was trying to encourage us 292 00:13:37,191 --> 00:13:38,932 to be ourselves for a long time 293 00:13:39,235 --> 00:13:41,476 but we were wanting to work 294 00:13:41,779 --> 00:13:44,487 so we had to play this game with the suits 295 00:13:44,782 --> 00:13:46,648 and the Whole nine yards. 296 00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:48,533 - Cover band. - Cover band, you know, 297 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:50,239 doing the R and B and stuff. 298 00:13:50,538 --> 00:13:54,202 I Not unusual to make love with a new one. 299 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:56,537 Terry was always the renegade. 300 00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:59,328 Your dad didn't like this image. 301 00:14:00,423 --> 00:14:02,710 We weren't crazy about it either, 302 00:14:03,009 --> 00:14:05,000 so we showed up at the club the next day. 303 00:14:05,303 --> 00:14:07,089 This was the biggest club in the midwest. 304 00:14:07,388 --> 00:14:08,423 We had the hair hanging down 305 00:14:08,723 --> 00:14:11,135 and Terry's suit jacket was inside out 306 00:14:11,434 --> 00:14:12,640 and this guy was looking at us like, 307 00:14:12,935 --> 00:14:14,141 "What's going on here?" 308 00:14:14,437 --> 00:14:15,427 He'd sit at the bar with his cronies 309 00:14:15,730 --> 00:14:18,062 while we started the sets. 310 00:14:18,358 --> 00:14:19,689 - [Man 1] Right across the street, Cream 311 00:14:19,984 --> 00:14:23,067 was making their American concert debut 312 00:14:23,363 --> 00:14:25,695 and they were playing this place down below, 313 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:27,480 and here we are stuck in this nightclub. 314 00:14:27,784 --> 00:14:30,651 The owner was a real slime ball, 315 00:14:30,953 --> 00:14:32,569 and he comes up to us and he goes, 316 00:14:32,872 --> 00:14:34,454 "Hey, boys, play one of those belly rubbers." 317 00:14:34,749 --> 00:14:37,537 So he could dance with his waitress girlfriend. 318 00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:39,826 - [Man 2] Instead of playing Misty, 319 00:14:40,129 --> 00:14:42,996 we launched into a Frank Zappa tune, 320 00:14:43,299 --> 00:14:44,505 How Could I Be Such a Fool, 321 00:14:44,801 --> 00:14:47,509 and we tore Terry's jacket off 322 00:14:47,804 --> 00:14:50,387 in the process of playing the song, 323 00:14:50,681 --> 00:14:53,673 and with that, the club owner got off his stool, 324 00:14:53,976 --> 00:14:54,966 he was completely irate. 325 00:14:55,269 --> 00:14:56,475 He ran to the front of the stage 326 00:14:56,771 --> 00:14:58,478 and started yanking at Walt's pants, 327 00:14:58,773 --> 00:14:59,888 and I'm playing next and I'm going, 328 00:15:00,191 --> 00:15:00,805 "Walt, What is he saying? 329 00:15:01,109 --> 00:15:01,940 "What is he saying?" 330 00:15:02,235 --> 00:15:03,316 Walt goes, "I think we're fired." 331 00:15:03,611 --> 00:15:05,727 And Terry says, "Yeah, screw it. 332 00:15:06,030 --> 00:15:07,566 "Let's just keep playing man." 333 00:15:07,865 --> 00:15:09,981 - [Michelle] And The Big Thing became CTA. 334 00:15:10,284 --> 00:15:11,490 - Thank God. 335 00:15:11,786 --> 00:15:12,742 (laughing) 336 00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:15,574 Can you imagine being called The Big Thing. 337 00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:19,207 It conjures up a lot of strange thoughts, doesn't it? 338 00:15:21,170 --> 00:15:23,958 Launches into that Mothers of Invention song, 339 00:15:24,257 --> 00:15:25,292 at the club. - Yeah. 340 00:15:25,591 --> 00:15:27,298 - [Man 1] Which was Terry's idea, 341 00:15:27,593 --> 00:15:28,298 was your dad's idea. 342 00:15:28,594 --> 00:15:30,130 That was a defining moment. 343 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:31,636 - [Man 2] That was breaking out of the mold. 344 00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:33,046 - [Man 1] That was a defining moment, 345 00:15:33,349 --> 00:15:34,214 because from that day on, 346 00:15:34,517 --> 00:15:36,258 we decided we're gonna be us. 347 00:15:37,061 --> 00:15:39,553 (upbeat music) 348 00:16:16,184 --> 00:16:17,515 I Well my Daddy sent a message 349 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:19,721 I 'bout the Whiskers on my chin 350 00:16:20,021 --> 00:16:21,227 I Never had no problems 351 00:16:21,522 --> 00:16:22,978 I 'cause I've always paid the rent 352 00:16:23,274 --> 00:16:24,685 I I got no time for Iovin' 353 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:26,770 I My time is all used up 354 00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:30,607 I Spend my time creatin' for some groovy kinds of love 355 00:16:30,907 --> 00:16:36,118 I I'm a man, yes I am, and I can't help but love you so 356 00:16:38,206 --> 00:16:43,667 I I'm a man, yes I am, and I can't help but love you so 357 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:47,753 I If I had my choice of matter 358 00:16:48,049 --> 00:16:49,585 I I'd rather be content 359 00:16:49,884 --> 00:16:51,374 I Being closer to the chatter 360 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:53,259 I Than Where your mind is at 361 00:16:53,554 --> 00:16:55,215 I While relating to each other 362 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:57,131 I How strong your love will be 363 00:16:57,433 --> 00:16:59,219 I Except that only sometimes 364 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:01,009 I Groovy chicks you see 365 00:17:01,312 --> 00:17:03,929 I I'm a man, yes I am, and I can't help but love you so 366 00:17:04,232 --> 00:17:05,973 - The Wildest thing was your dad happened 367 00:17:06,275 --> 00:17:08,061 to call my apartment, and he said, 368 00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:10,728 "This guy's in town I want you to know, 369 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:13,112 "and I think he can help us out. 370 00:17:13,407 --> 00:17:14,738 "You oughta talk to him." 371 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:16,570 - So anyhow, I went to Barnaby's and saw 'em, 372 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:18,906 said, "This is all incredible. 373 00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:20,161 "It's better than anybody who does it, 374 00:17:20,456 --> 00:17:22,242 "and it's great but I can't use it." 375 00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:24,158 I gotta have original material 376 00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:25,950 and they went to work and Jimmy 377 00:17:26,254 --> 00:17:28,837 and they went to work and rock. 378 00:17:29,131 --> 00:17:30,872 - [Man] And that was our break. 379 00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:33,587 (upbeat music) 380 00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:38,888 When we moved to California, 381 00:17:39,183 --> 00:17:41,220 the first album was What we rehearsed 382 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:42,634 at the Holly Drive house, which was 383 00:17:42,937 --> 00:17:44,519 our little house in LA. 384 00:17:44,814 --> 00:17:46,725 - The late 605 was a very experimental 385 00:17:47,024 --> 00:17:49,732 time in music and we were really trying to break 386 00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:54,021 new ground and we were being encouraged by Jim Guercio. 387 00:17:54,323 --> 00:17:55,859 Don't just try to write songs, 388 00:17:56,158 --> 00:17:57,648 and we took the influences of the things 389 00:17:57,952 --> 00:17:59,659 we were listening to at the time, 390 00:17:59,954 --> 00:18:01,661 everything from The Beatles, Hendrix, 391 00:18:01,956 --> 00:18:03,572 some jazz to some classical. 392 00:18:03,874 --> 00:18:08,289 We made those influences drive 393 00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:14,834 how each composition had no standard form of construction. 394 00:18:15,136 --> 00:18:19,175 As we composed the music for the first album 395 00:18:19,473 --> 00:18:21,840 and rehearsed it and rehearsed it and rehearsed it, 396 00:18:22,143 --> 00:18:24,259 over and over, in that little house, 397 00:18:24,562 --> 00:18:27,145 it began to take form and at some point, Guercio said, 398 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,434 "Okay, we're going to New York and we're gonna record." 399 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:36,271 - And did that Whole album in 14 days 400 00:18:37,241 --> 00:18:40,950 and that whole album was done eight track. 401 00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:43,282 - He wrote this song, which is the first song 402 00:18:43,581 --> 00:18:45,743 on the first, called Introduction, 403 00:18:46,042 --> 00:18:51,082 and it's basically, your dad wanted to introduce the band 404 00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:52,211 in a song. 405 00:18:53,049 --> 00:18:55,541 (upbeat music) 406 00:19:08,439 --> 00:19:10,771 I Hey there everybody 407 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:14,476 I Please don't romp or roam 408 00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:18,108 I We're a little nervous 409 00:19:19,617 --> 00:19:22,109 I 'Cause we're so far from home 410 00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:25,115 I So this is what we do 411 00:19:25,414 --> 00:19:26,700 I Sit back and let us groove 412 00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:30,242 I And let us work on you 413 00:19:37,927 --> 00:19:40,419 I We've all spent years preparing 414 00:19:40,721 --> 00:19:44,214 I Before this band was born 415 00:19:45,226 --> 00:19:47,809 I With heaven's help it blended 416 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:52,848 I And we do thank the lord, yeah, yeah 417 00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:54,561 I Come on, everybody 418 00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:57,227 I Sit back and let us groove 419 00:19:57,530 --> 00:20:00,773 I Let us work on you, yeah, yeah,yeah 420 00:20:14,755 --> 00:20:16,041 Well the introduction's my favorite. 421 00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:18,331 That's a killer piece. 422 00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:20,625 Incredible piece of music. 423 00:20:22,263 --> 00:20:25,927 Your dad ran that band and that's his tune. 424 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,178 I love Introduction, one take, live. 425 00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:33,555 One, first album. 426 00:20:33,858 --> 00:20:34,814 - To me Introduction is like 427 00:20:35,109 --> 00:20:39,273 the greatest challenge I've ever had musically. 428 00:20:39,572 --> 00:20:41,779 It's a really challenging song. 429 00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:44,361 It's got three or four different time changes. 430 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:46,116 It starts in four four, 431 00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:49,404 then it goes three eight and into 19 eight. 432 00:20:49,707 --> 00:20:52,790 19 eight, you can't even fathom how to count it, 433 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:53,995 and then back into four four 434 00:20:54,295 --> 00:20:57,458 and it has tempo changes and also kicks. 435 00:20:58,924 --> 00:21:01,837 - But he didn't actually write music. 436 00:21:02,136 --> 00:21:03,752 I'm trying to imagine now you guys 437 00:21:04,054 --> 00:21:05,715 in the studio recording this song, 438 00:21:06,015 --> 00:21:08,882 and him trying to get it out of his brain 439 00:21:09,185 --> 00:21:11,017 and communicate to you. 440 00:21:11,312 --> 00:21:13,599 - He wrote this piece with all of these 441 00:21:13,898 --> 00:21:16,481 complicated time signatures 442 00:21:17,193 --> 00:21:20,185 and he said, "Jimmy come over here." 443 00:21:20,488 --> 00:21:23,731 Because I have the ability to write stuff down, 444 00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:25,694 and he needed that to happen, 445 00:21:25,993 --> 00:21:28,781 so he could chart everything out, 446 00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:30,194 so we could then present it 447 00:21:30,498 --> 00:21:31,738 to everybody in the band 448 00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:33,452 and they could read the parts, 449 00:21:33,751 --> 00:21:35,867 and when I started writing it down, 450 00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:39,162 only then did I realize how sophisticated 451 00:21:39,465 --> 00:21:41,206 the mind of this guy was 452 00:21:41,509 --> 00:21:43,671 to be able to encapsulate 453 00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:47,633 this song in his head, in its entirety. 454 00:21:47,932 --> 00:21:51,141 I'm going, "Man, this dude is off the charts, man." 455 00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:53,017 That's when I realized, 456 00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,895 I always knew how enormously talented 457 00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:59,808 your dad was, but when that song happened, 458 00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:02,727 that's when I really understood 459 00:22:03,030 --> 00:22:07,649 how deep Terry's integration into music was, 460 00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:10,410 because just writing it down was a daunting task, 461 00:22:10,704 --> 00:22:12,615 much less having it all in his head. 462 00:22:12,915 --> 00:22:15,156 (rock music) 463 00:22:20,631 --> 00:22:21,541 - [Man] Sitting there counting minutes, 464 00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:23,878 I wanted to do a double album, 465 00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:25,837 but then that went up. 466 00:22:28,222 --> 00:22:31,180 I said, "Terry, do that thing with your guitar. " 467 00:22:31,475 --> 00:22:34,467 - I found one called Free Form Guitar, 468 00:22:36,105 --> 00:22:39,188 and I'm not sure exactly What that is. 469 00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:42,983 (discordant music) 470 00:22:58,002 --> 00:22:59,584 - That was way ahead of its time. 471 00:22:59,879 --> 00:23:01,711 I remember, it was almost Coltrane-esque. 472 00:23:02,006 --> 00:23:03,997 - There was no pedals. 473 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:06,211 We set him up, nobody was in the room. 474 00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:08,126 Turned the lights down. 475 00:23:08,429 --> 00:23:11,467 The big concert studio that we recorded 476 00:23:11,765 --> 00:23:15,429 a lot of the album in, but that was one take. 477 00:23:15,728 --> 00:23:17,560 It was one take, just him. 478 00:23:17,855 --> 00:23:20,847 I think I mic'd it on three, four tracks, 479 00:23:21,150 --> 00:23:21,890 I had echo. 480 00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:26,023 (discordant music) 481 00:23:27,823 --> 00:23:31,908 - I'm well versed enough so that when I hear that piece, 482 00:23:33,037 --> 00:23:35,244 I know What he's doing. 483 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:41,121 I have a visual of that sound 484 00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:43,206 of What you have to do with your guitar 485 00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:46,463 to get that sound and there's a couple other things 486 00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:48,124 that I don't know What he's doing. 487 00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:49,383 I don't know how in the world 488 00:23:49,678 --> 00:23:53,512 he got that out of a guitar. 489 00:23:55,935 --> 00:23:58,017 - [Michelle] Do you know about that guitar? 490 00:23:58,312 --> 00:23:59,643 Where it might be? 491 00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:01,350 - Is that the one- - I don't know. 492 00:24:01,649 --> 00:24:04,061 We're trying to look for it. 493 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,853 - [Man] You know, I think Hank has the guitar. 494 00:24:15,746 --> 00:24:17,578 - Fender's genius design of the telecaster 495 00:24:17,873 --> 00:24:19,159 was the fact that it was solid. 496 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,244 You can see it's not a hollow bodied, 497 00:24:21,543 --> 00:24:23,033 'cause at the time hollow bodies 498 00:24:23,337 --> 00:24:24,953 were prominent and prone to feedback, 499 00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:26,996 Whereas this was not, so you can see 500 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:28,630 it has two single coils. 501 00:24:28,926 --> 00:24:31,042 Bridge pickup is angled to create 502 00:24:31,345 --> 00:24:34,087 that Telly twang, or the brightness. 503 00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:35,846 - Why would he favor this guitar? 504 00:24:36,141 --> 00:24:37,222 What do you think? 505 00:24:37,518 --> 00:24:39,259 - He really liked the ability of the telecaster's 506 00:24:39,561 --> 00:24:41,893 bridge pickup to cut through mix. 507 00:24:42,189 --> 00:24:44,146 Somewhere around 1972 on his guitar, 508 00:24:44,441 --> 00:24:47,433 apparently he asked his guitar tech at the time 509 00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:49,352 to carve it out and put a humbucker 510 00:24:49,655 --> 00:24:50,816 or double coil- - On this? 511 00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:54,653 - Yeah, on this one, double coil in the neck, 512 00:24:54,952 --> 00:24:57,569 so that he could have some Gibson 513 00:24:57,871 --> 00:25:00,112 and the sound of a Fender in one guitar. 514 00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:03,158 From what I read, he favored the Stratocaster 515 00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:05,246 tremolo system, mostly because of its response 516 00:25:05,546 --> 00:25:08,538 but also intonation, which intonation on a guitar 517 00:25:08,841 --> 00:25:11,208 makes sure that all the notes sound good 518 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,592 on the front board, 'cause from here to here, 519 00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:15,628 can't be fixed. 520 00:25:15,931 --> 00:25:17,513 That's just standard intonation, 521 00:25:17,808 --> 00:25:18,843 but from here to here, 522 00:25:19,143 --> 00:25:21,009 it can be anywhere between a half step 523 00:25:21,311 --> 00:25:22,392 and a Whole step off depending 524 00:25:22,688 --> 00:25:23,894 on how bad your intonation is. 525 00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:25,600 I was reading in, I have an original copy 526 00:25:25,899 --> 00:25:28,812 of the 1971 or '72 Guitar Player magazine 527 00:25:29,111 --> 00:25:31,022 that your dad was featured in. 528 00:25:31,321 --> 00:25:34,404 He just said that he liked the Fender Stratocaster 529 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:36,316 tremolo bridge the best. 530 00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:39,701 - Okay, I'm gonna introduce you to Tom Vienna. 531 00:25:39,997 --> 00:25:42,955 I came across Tom because when I first 532 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:44,991 had the idea to do the documentary, 533 00:25:45,294 --> 00:25:47,706 I was just researching, 534 00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:49,871 and his website always came up, 535 00:25:50,174 --> 00:25:51,414 over and over and over, 536 00:25:51,717 --> 00:25:53,708 and I was like, "God, people are obsessed with this guitar. " 537 00:25:54,011 --> 00:25:56,673 And there were forums and chats, 538 00:25:56,972 --> 00:25:57,882 like, "Where is this guitar?" 539 00:25:58,182 --> 00:26:01,049 And seriously intricate details 540 00:26:01,351 --> 00:26:03,092 on how to replicate this guitar, 541 00:26:03,395 --> 00:26:05,602 so in my journey, we're trying to figure out 542 00:26:05,898 --> 00:26:06,763 Where this guitar is. 543 00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:08,932 It's taken a character of its own, 544 00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:11,191 'cause we haven't found it yet. 545 00:26:11,487 --> 00:26:13,728 (rock music) 546 00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,160 Can you describe any of the setups 547 00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:23,913 or the gear or any of that stuff? 548 00:26:24,208 --> 00:26:26,575 - He had these Radio Shack amplifiers 549 00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:29,209 that were really old PA amplifiers. 550 00:26:29,505 --> 00:26:32,122 I think he got the first one in Chicago 551 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,006 before he ever came out here, 552 00:26:34,301 --> 00:26:36,963 and he used acoustic speaker cam, 553 00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:40,300 with six 10 inch speakers in each one, 554 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,010 and they thought he, if I can remember, 555 00:26:42,309 --> 00:26:45,472 two of those on stage. 556 00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:50,315 - That amp, I don't know, it was this little box. 557 00:26:51,318 --> 00:26:52,774 I don't think he was using it. 558 00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:54,481 It wasn't even a guitar amp. 559 00:26:54,780 --> 00:26:56,896 It was for something, PA or something. 560 00:26:57,199 --> 00:26:58,485 At the time it was so primitive 561 00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:01,367 that it picked up RF, radio frequencies 562 00:27:01,662 --> 00:27:04,120 from these places and you'd be 563 00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:05,700 right through his amps in the afternoon, 564 00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:07,034 when he's testing them out, 565 00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:10,326 you'd hear a radio station coming through the amps. 566 00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:13,587 Rig, they called the rig, his whole setup. 567 00:27:13,882 --> 00:27:18,126 We'd be running Wire 40, 60 feet ground Wires 568 00:27:18,428 --> 00:27:20,510 to get rid of the RF. 569 00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:22,388 He'd hook up chicken wire 570 00:27:22,683 --> 00:27:24,845 and your dad would say, "I don't give a shit. 571 00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:26,430 "Let's go, I don't care. 572 00:27:26,728 --> 00:27:27,638 "That's my rig, I'm going. 573 00:27:27,938 --> 00:27:28,643 "You wanna use something else? 574 00:27:28,939 --> 00:27:30,179 "No, I ain't using nothing else." 575 00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:31,563 - He was so having fun, 576 00:27:31,859 --> 00:27:34,066 and I heard a story, they say that Hendrix said 577 00:27:34,361 --> 00:27:36,068 that when he saw Terry play, 578 00:27:36,363 --> 00:27:37,774 he said, "That guy is the best guitar player 579 00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:39,484 "I've ever heard in my life." 580 00:27:39,783 --> 00:27:42,571 So let's just start with getting a thumbs up from Jimmy 581 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:44,406 and work exponentially forward, 582 00:27:44,705 --> 00:27:46,662 that's how everybody felt, 583 00:27:46,957 --> 00:27:50,450 that he was the superstar of the band. 584 00:27:50,752 --> 00:27:52,868 - Chicago, there was a house band at the Whiskey, 585 00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:55,709 and one night, they were on stage playing, 586 00:27:56,008 --> 00:27:59,967 and somebody, one of the guys looks at me and goes, 587 00:28:00,262 --> 00:28:01,218 motioning in the back 588 00:28:01,513 --> 00:28:04,551 and in the back of the room is Jimmy Hendrix. 589 00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:09,720 Had a scarf, said, "Oh, my God, Jimmy Hendrix." 590 00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:14,224 We just happened to do Purple Haze and stuff like that, 591 00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:16,312 and so we finished our set and like, 592 00:28:16,612 --> 00:28:18,979 "Oh, my God, Jimmy Hendrix." 593 00:28:19,281 --> 00:28:21,363 We couldn't breathe and we went in the dressing room 594 00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:23,615 and we sat down, toweling off, "Jimmy Hendrix!" 595 00:28:23,911 --> 00:28:25,822 Sitting there, the door swings open 596 00:28:26,121 --> 00:28:28,579 and in walks frickin' Jimmy Hendrix. 597 00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:30,456 He walks in and he goes, 598 00:28:30,751 --> 00:28:33,209 "You guys are motherfuckers." 599 00:28:33,503 --> 00:28:34,493 And that's when he came up to me 600 00:28:34,796 --> 00:28:36,707 right after we had made the deal with CBS 601 00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:39,169 to produce CTA, the first album. 602 00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:40,208 - What of course we find out 603 00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:42,592 was that he really, he was floored 604 00:28:42,888 --> 00:28:43,878 with the group, of course, 605 00:28:44,181 --> 00:28:45,592 but he was floored with Terry. 606 00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:48,303 He had his management call our then-management, 607 00:28:48,602 --> 00:28:50,434 and we opened for Hendrix for the tour. 608 00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:52,720 - Your dad and him were buddies. 609 00:28:53,023 --> 00:28:56,561 He thought your dad was the best guitar player. 610 00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:58,146 He said, "He's better than me." 611 00:28:58,445 --> 00:28:59,105 Yeah. 612 00:29:02,407 --> 00:29:06,025 Anyway he said, "You gotta let me produce it, man. 613 00:29:06,328 --> 00:29:07,534 "Gotta let me produce it." 614 00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:08,910 Like that. 615 00:29:09,206 --> 00:29:11,493 - [Michelle] Imagine if Jimmy Hendrix and my dad 616 00:29:11,792 --> 00:29:13,203 had an album together. 617 00:29:13,502 --> 00:29:16,585 - [Man] We talked about it many times. 618 00:29:16,964 --> 00:29:19,296 (rock music) 619 00:29:22,678 --> 00:29:25,045 - The reason Why I think it's important to come 620 00:29:25,347 --> 00:29:27,930 and talk to you is because you're a little piece of history, 621 00:29:28,225 --> 00:29:30,717 not only with my dad but with the band as well. 622 00:29:31,019 --> 00:29:34,307 With your fine establishment here. 623 00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:35,937 - That there Whiskey, your dad was there 624 00:29:36,233 --> 00:29:37,644 almost 50 years ago. - Yeah. 625 00:29:37,943 --> 00:29:39,354 - That's a long time. 626 00:29:39,653 --> 00:29:42,361 - Did you know my dad back in Chicago? 627 00:29:42,656 --> 00:29:44,112 - No, I knew him from here. - Oh, from here. 628 00:29:44,408 --> 00:29:45,443 - In fact, we put him into Whiskey 629 00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:47,198 when they first came here. 630 00:29:47,494 --> 00:29:48,609 Whiskey A Go Go. 631 00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:50,869 They were still there, 50 years now. 632 00:29:51,164 --> 00:29:52,154 - [Michelle] Yeah, it was one of the first places 633 00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:53,322 they played. - Yeah, right. 634 00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:55,912 - The Whiskey. - Yeah. 635 00:29:56,211 --> 00:29:59,454 But your dad was a very dear friend of mind, 636 00:29:59,756 --> 00:30:02,123 and that's how I came to baptize you 637 00:30:02,426 --> 00:30:03,587 for your father. 638 00:30:03,885 --> 00:30:06,752 He's a great musician. Great, was, I love him to death. 639 00:30:07,055 --> 00:30:08,511 I still think about him today. 640 00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:10,673 Think of him all the time. 641 00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:13,058 There he is, right there. 642 00:30:13,353 --> 00:30:16,937 There's my friend, right here, see him? 643 00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:19,599 Look at how beautiful he is. 644 00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:21,562 What a great guy, God. 645 00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:26,947 Just can't forget him, he's right there. 646 00:30:28,493 --> 00:30:30,905 Little girl with blonde hair. 647 00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,162 - [Michelle] I was that little girl once upon a time. 648 00:30:34,458 --> 00:30:36,449 All the other pictures are amazing. 649 00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:40,461 The history of the Sunset Strip. 650 00:30:44,134 --> 00:30:46,546 - [Man] Chicago has been phenomenally successful 651 00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:48,085 outside of the United States. 652 00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:51,301 They've been accepted all through the continent, 653 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,261 in France and Germany, Switzerland, 654 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,724 Denmark, Holland, Sweden, and England, phenomenally. 655 00:30:58,023 --> 00:30:59,513 They've been accepted much more readily 656 00:30:59,816 --> 00:31:01,272 than they have here. 657 00:31:01,568 --> 00:31:04,981 Yet at the same time, we have toured more extensively here. 658 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,270 We've played more cities here. 659 00:31:06,573 --> 00:31:07,904 We've played every borough, every state, 660 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,238 every major city over two, three hundred thousand 661 00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:13,527 population in the country. 662 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:14,945 Not that we were an overnight success, 663 00:31:15,248 --> 00:31:17,114 but when all of the sudden hit that level, 664 00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:18,999 your life is not your own. 665 00:31:19,294 --> 00:31:21,376 We were gone more than we were home. 666 00:31:21,671 --> 00:31:25,209 We were with each other more than with our families. 667 00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:28,297 You get surrounded by a different element of people, 668 00:31:28,595 --> 00:31:35,843 not necessarily the most stand up honest people. 669 00:31:36,812 --> 00:31:40,055 - I would see him when my band The James Gang, 670 00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:44,772 and CGA were on the same show. 671 00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:49,564 When I knew him, they weren't a pop band. 672 00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:52,692 They would play songs live 673 00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:56,074 that were 10 and 12 minutes long, 674 00:31:56,373 --> 00:31:59,286 and the middle part, everybody would open up 675 00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:02,326 and they'd just go improvise, 676 00:32:03,255 --> 00:32:05,838 and that's where Terry would shine. 677 00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:08,211 I Yeah, we can make it happen 678 00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:10,251 I We can make it happen 679 00:32:10,554 --> 00:32:12,886 I Yeah, we can make it happen 680 00:32:13,181 --> 00:32:16,048 I We can make it happen, yeah 681 00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:19,719 I We can make it happen, we can make it happen 682 00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:24,015 I Yeah, we can make it happen, we can make it happen 683 00:32:25,026 --> 00:32:29,736 I Yeah, we can make it happen, we can make it happen 684 00:32:30,031 --> 00:32:34,446 I Yeah, we can make it happen, we can make it happen 685 00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:39,113 I Yeah, we can make it happen, we can make it happen 686 00:32:39,416 --> 00:32:43,410 I Yeah, we can make it happen, we can make it happen 687 00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:48,797 I Yeah, we can make it happen, we can make it happen 688 00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:53,552 I Yeah, we can make it happen, we can make it happen 689 00:32:53,847 --> 00:32:57,841 I Yeah, we can make it happen, we can make it hap- 690 00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:01,389 (applause) 691 00:33:02,606 --> 00:33:03,471 - Let's put it this way. 692 00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:06,140 This is before we recorded an album, 693 00:33:06,443 --> 00:33:07,729 and we went to New York 694 00:33:08,028 --> 00:33:09,018 and we used to go, 'cause everybody wanted 695 00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:12,439 to meet some chicks, have a nice drink 696 00:33:12,741 --> 00:33:13,776 and all this stuff, 697 00:33:14,075 --> 00:33:16,282 so we'd go into these night clubs or something, 698 00:33:16,578 --> 00:33:19,866 and all these groupie chicks. 699 00:33:20,165 --> 00:33:21,872 They'd come up, "Oh, you've got long hair. 700 00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:23,157 "Who are you?" 701 00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:24,666 "Oh, I'm With CTA." 702 00:33:24,961 --> 00:33:25,666 (vocalizes) 703 00:33:25,962 --> 00:33:27,077 They'd split. 704 00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:28,791 You wouldn't even see them for the rest of the night 705 00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:32,208 and now, now with CTA, we have an album out, 706 00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:34,343 now it's a different story. 707 00:33:34,638 --> 00:33:36,220 We go into places, we don't even wanna meet chicks 708 00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,552 half the time, chicks are like, "Oh." 709 00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:40,887 All they want is a free ride. 710 00:33:41,186 --> 00:33:42,927 That's all a groupie is. 711 00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:45,267 They've been here for years, man. 712 00:33:45,565 --> 00:33:46,771 They really have. 713 00:33:47,067 --> 00:33:50,901 Groupies have been around ever since there was musicians. 714 00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:56,361 - Yeah, it seems like a fairytale, 715 00:33:56,660 --> 00:34:00,403 and when I look back, I think of how romantic it all was. 716 00:34:00,705 --> 00:34:05,074 Graduated from high school and I was traveling around. 717 00:34:05,377 --> 00:34:07,459 I always wanted to see California, 718 00:34:07,754 --> 00:34:09,290 and I ended up in LA. 719 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:11,546 One day I was in a grocery store, 720 00:34:11,841 --> 00:34:14,173 and I ran into my girlfriend from Michigan 721 00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:15,254 and she said, "Oh, my God. 722 00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:17,886 "I'm living at the beach in Malibu, 723 00:34:18,181 --> 00:34:19,342 "and my boyfriend's in Japan. 724 00:34:19,641 --> 00:34:21,382 "He works for this band Chicago, 725 00:34:21,685 --> 00:34:23,221 "and I'd love for you to spend the summer. 726 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,555 "I'm here alone all summer. " 727 00:34:24,854 --> 00:34:26,094 And I thought, "Oh, my God. 728 00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:29,186 "This is like a dream come true." 729 00:34:29,484 --> 00:34:31,566 I stayed with her at the beach. 730 00:34:31,861 --> 00:34:33,693 It was really wonderful. 731 00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:37,323 That night, Terry came over, 732 00:34:37,617 --> 00:34:39,403 and was very casual. 733 00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:41,535 I met him, I thought he was really nice. 734 00:34:41,830 --> 00:34:45,164 He said, "Oh, I wanna take you for a ride." 735 00:34:45,458 --> 00:34:46,619 And we went up the coast a little bit 736 00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:49,831 in his Maserati and Terry was a wonderful guy. 737 00:34:50,130 --> 00:34:51,086 He was a real gentleman, 738 00:34:51,381 --> 00:34:53,964 but I had plans to go back home to Michigan. 739 00:34:55,176 --> 00:34:57,258 He kept writing me letters 740 00:34:57,554 --> 00:34:58,840 and sending me cards. 741 00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:01,847 I think I got one or two cards a day 742 00:35:02,142 --> 00:35:04,224 for a very long time. 743 00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,102 I don't know how he kept that up. 744 00:35:08,148 --> 00:35:09,104 He called me and he said, 745 00:35:09,399 --> 00:35:10,355 "What would you like for your birthday?" 746 00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:12,937 And I said, "I'd like to come out and see you." 747 00:35:13,236 --> 00:35:16,024 So I came out, he lived in the Hollywood Hills. 748 00:35:16,323 --> 00:35:18,655 The vibe, the I. vibe just didn't strike me 749 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:22,944 as a comfortable place to be 750 00:35:23,246 --> 00:35:24,987 and he could see that and he said, 751 00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:27,622 "Well, Why don't we drive to Colorado together? " 752 00:35:27,917 --> 00:35:30,750 And it was that drive from I. to Colorado, 753 00:35:31,046 --> 00:35:32,628 a year after I met him 754 00:35:32,922 --> 00:35:37,007 that made me realize What an amazing man he was, 755 00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:38,588 and I fell in love with him. 756 00:35:38,887 --> 00:35:40,844 - [Interviewer] Caribou is probably a family deal, 757 00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:42,755 work at the ranch in Colorado. 758 00:35:43,058 --> 00:35:44,298 You guys record. 759 00:35:44,601 --> 00:35:45,887 I guess live, too, Jim. 760 00:35:46,186 --> 00:35:47,176 Does anybody live there? - No. 761 00:35:47,479 --> 00:35:48,219 Hang out, well we lived 762 00:35:48,521 --> 00:35:49,807 when we worked it. - Uh huh. 763 00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:51,187 - [Jim] Terry, you live ther - - [Ferry] I used to live there, 764 00:35:51,483 --> 00:35:53,394 and hung out there pretty much, 765 00:35:53,693 --> 00:35:55,809 but I'm based in I., back there. 766 00:35:56,112 --> 00:35:58,353 - [Jim] No, well it's not out of range. 767 00:35:58,657 --> 00:35:59,863 It's not out of range. - No, no, no, no. 768 00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:01,944 - [Interviewer] Who wants to talk about Caribou? 769 00:36:02,243 --> 00:36:03,779 Peter, you wanna tell us about the ranch? 770 00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:04,864 What actually happens out there? 771 00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:07,245 The size of the spread and all that. 772 00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:09,497 - [Peter] You really want me to say What happens at the ranch? 773 00:36:09,793 --> 00:36:10,578 - [Interviewer] What happens at the ranch? 774 00:36:10,877 --> 00:36:12,538 I think people wanna know. - Nothing. 775 00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:14,123 - [Ferry] The record guy says don't tell them 776 00:36:14,422 --> 00:36:15,503 What happens at the ranch! 777 00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:19,879 I Don't you go once or twice 778 00:36:20,845 --> 00:36:23,803 I Think that you are very nice 779 00:36:24,099 --> 00:36:27,763 I Now, trust me, I'm easy 780 00:36:28,061 --> 00:36:29,677 I Hey girl 781 00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:32,391 I I think you got a pistol 782 00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:33,681 - [Michelle] Why do you think Caribou Ranch 783 00:36:33,983 --> 00:36:36,941 was such this place that was like this big draw 784 00:36:37,237 --> 00:36:39,604 for him that he loved so much? 785 00:36:39,906 --> 00:36:40,771 - Nature. 786 00:36:41,074 --> 00:36:43,782 It was just one big playpen. 787 00:36:44,077 --> 00:36:47,160 That was amazing to have that time to ourselves 788 00:36:47,455 --> 00:36:50,197 and Caribou Ranch, live up there, 789 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:51,786 spend all our time together 790 00:36:52,085 --> 00:36:53,200 doing Whatever the hell we want 791 00:36:53,503 --> 00:36:54,288 all over that ranch. 792 00:36:54,587 --> 00:36:56,373 Horseback riding, riding motorcycles 793 00:36:56,673 --> 00:36:58,835 all over the ranch, shooting guns, 794 00:36:59,134 --> 00:36:59,965 whatever you wanted. 795 00:37:00,260 --> 00:37:01,921 It was just fun. 796 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:05,383 When I first met Terry, I said, "Why do you have to carry a gun?" 797 00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:07,798 Because when we were at Caribou Ranch, 798 00:37:08,101 --> 00:37:11,139 he literally wore a holster with .38 in it. 799 00:37:11,438 --> 00:37:15,432 One of his favorite movies was Taxi Driver. 800 00:37:15,734 --> 00:37:16,519 "You talking to me?" 801 00:37:16,818 --> 00:37:18,183 And he'd do that in front of the mirror 802 00:37:18,486 --> 00:37:20,944 with a gun, "You talking to me?" 803 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,858 But if you knew him, it all made sense. 804 00:37:26,161 --> 00:37:28,243 It was just part of the way he lived. 805 00:37:28,538 --> 00:37:32,497 We went out and set up cans out in the fields 806 00:37:32,792 --> 00:37:34,624 at Caribou Ranch and blasted all of them 807 00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:36,034 with different, "Oh, try this one. 808 00:37:36,337 --> 00:37:36,917 "Oh, try this one, okay. 809 00:37:37,213 --> 00:37:38,453 "This one's got a real kick." 810 00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:43,172 To him it wasn't something used to kill anything, 811 00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:45,632 and he didn't believe in hunting, 812 00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:48,592 it was just something he loved. 813 00:37:48,892 --> 00:37:52,055 He loved cars, he loved motorcycles and he loved guns, 814 00:37:52,353 --> 00:37:53,343 and he loved guitars, 815 00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:56,855 and so it became something that was just there. 816 00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:58,436 They were in the house. 817 00:37:58,735 --> 00:37:59,975 - Meanwhile back at the ranch, 818 00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:02,019 which is a video we shot with Dick Clark, 819 00:38:02,322 --> 00:38:07,362 and they flew up a bunch of kids from Colorado University 820 00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:09,446 and they built a stage, 821 00:38:09,746 --> 00:38:10,861 and we did a live concert. 822 00:38:11,164 --> 00:38:14,828 We were doing our normal being bad boys in the house, 823 00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:18,118 and came out and Terry's got this big, 824 00:38:18,421 --> 00:38:19,286 I don't know What you'd call it, 825 00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:22,547 .45, .38 special, and he walks out there 826 00:38:22,842 --> 00:38:24,424 and he brings it right on stage, 827 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,757 and before we start playing, 828 00:38:28,056 --> 00:38:30,343 he just raises it up and fires a shot 829 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:31,882 straight in the air, 830 00:38:32,185 --> 00:38:34,267 and everybody just, "Woah." 831 00:38:35,563 --> 00:38:38,555 We just saw, but that was Terry. 832 00:38:38,858 --> 00:38:42,021 Terry being Terry, scaring the hell out of everybody. 833 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,776 - When we'd go to record, 834 00:38:44,072 --> 00:38:46,689 I would be the tour manager or the one 835 00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:49,574 most responsible, I have this picture, 836 00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:53,203 and we had stayed up all night 837 00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:54,784 and we were gonna go out shooting. 838 00:38:55,083 --> 00:38:56,414 We thought, "Oh, What a great idea." 839 00:38:56,709 --> 00:39:00,043 And it was six or seven in the morning. 840 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,000 The sun was right in our faces, 841 00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:06,792 and here we are with this plastered on smile 842 00:39:07,095 --> 00:39:09,712 of us leaning on his blazer before we got in the car 843 00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:13,552 and went out shooting, chopping down Aspen trees. 844 00:39:15,478 --> 00:39:17,970 (upbeat music) 845 00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:23,482 - It seemed like a fairytale. 846 00:39:24,612 --> 00:39:28,526 For a very long time, life was really good. 847 00:39:28,825 --> 00:39:30,065 It was a lot of fun. 848 00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:33,736 They did a world tour While I was with Terry. 849 00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:34,948 That was incredible. 850 00:39:35,248 --> 00:39:37,831 Traveling through Switzerland 851 00:39:38,126 --> 00:39:41,335 and beautiful trains with private cars 852 00:39:41,629 --> 00:39:44,917 and he took me to Paris for the first time. 853 00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:46,581 The room was full of flowers. 854 00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:49,468 - Oh, Paris and flowers. - Yes. 855 00:39:49,762 --> 00:39:52,049 Took me shopping, then we went to Amsterdam, 856 00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:53,804 which was so much fun. 857 00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,137 Amsterdam with him. 858 00:39:56,436 --> 00:39:58,973 We traveled a lot with Diane and Peter, too. 859 00:39:59,272 --> 00:40:00,603 We seemed to do a lot of trips together, 860 00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:02,981 to Hawaii, to Europe together, 861 00:40:03,276 --> 00:40:05,392 and when Chicago traveled, they had private planes, 862 00:40:05,695 --> 00:40:07,356 and it was just fun. 863 00:40:07,655 --> 00:40:08,736 It was just unreal. 864 00:40:09,324 --> 00:40:13,739 - [Man] All the Chicago girls were very close. 865 00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:15,903 All the Wives. 866 00:40:16,205 --> 00:40:18,367 We hung out, they hung out. 867 00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:21,249 It was really a family. 868 00:40:22,211 --> 00:40:23,793 The Whole Chicago organization. 869 00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:26,375 You really felt you were in a family. 870 00:40:26,674 --> 00:40:27,709 We were all from Chicago. 871 00:40:28,009 --> 00:40:30,751 Well, some of the girls weren't. 872 00:40:31,054 --> 00:40:34,763 The closest friends I ever had were during that time. 873 00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:38,725 - Whenever Chicago had time off, 874 00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:40,385 I just never knew what we were gonna do. 875 00:40:40,688 --> 00:40:43,020 I would wake up in the morning and he'd look at me and say, 876 00:40:43,316 --> 00:40:45,023 "Do you wanna go to Hawaii today? " 877 00:40:45,318 --> 00:40:46,149 "Yeah. " 878 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:47,934 "Let's go to Hawaii today, okay. " 879 00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:49,773 We loved going to Hawaii. 880 00:40:50,865 --> 00:40:53,027 I bought a vintage dress, 881 00:40:53,326 --> 00:40:56,068 a vintage lace dress. 882 00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:57,444 We got up really early 883 00:40:57,747 --> 00:40:58,908 'cause we wanted to be out on the beach 884 00:40:59,207 --> 00:41:00,743 when no one was there 885 00:41:01,042 --> 00:41:02,532 and we went out to a point 886 00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:06,669 out by the waves and we married each other. 887 00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:09,548 (romantic music) 888 00:41:57,098 --> 00:41:58,509 - [Jim] But he was very proud of the fact 889 00:41:58,808 --> 00:42:00,469 that he had a daughter, 890 00:42:00,768 --> 00:42:04,136 and was looking forward to the little things 891 00:42:04,439 --> 00:42:05,679 that would go on. 892 00:42:06,899 --> 00:42:09,516 - [Man] Well, it was a source of pride. 893 00:42:09,819 --> 00:42:11,309 Just in some of these pictures, you can see 894 00:42:11,612 --> 00:42:12,602 when he's holding you 895 00:42:12,905 --> 00:42:15,067 and those are very, those are infant pictures, 896 00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:17,357 the smile on his face. 897 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:18,775 - But he was very excited. 898 00:42:19,078 --> 00:42:20,364 He was a big part of the process. 899 00:42:20,663 --> 00:42:22,074 He never walked away from me then. 900 00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:24,205 He was really into it. 901 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:27,538 We took you on the road in a little harness 902 00:42:27,837 --> 00:42:30,420 and you went everywhere with us. 903 00:42:32,216 --> 00:42:37,256 You just became part of the Whole family on the road. 904 00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:40,172 - [Michelle] He would have been around in my life? 905 00:42:40,475 --> 00:42:41,806 - Absolutely. - For sure. 906 00:42:42,101 --> 00:42:43,933 - [Man] Maybe more than you wanted, 907 00:42:44,228 --> 00:42:47,311 but yes, he would have been around. 908 00:42:47,607 --> 00:42:49,894 Certainly he would have taken a strong role 909 00:42:50,193 --> 00:42:53,106 in your life, there's no doubt in my mind. 910 00:42:53,404 --> 00:42:55,987 (cheerful music) 911 00:43:00,787 --> 00:43:03,370 (playful music) 912 00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:09,285 - [Ferry] The road and home life are two different things. 913 00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:11,703 They're two separate ideas. 914 00:43:12,006 --> 00:43:15,089 The road living is totally a different way of life. 915 00:43:15,885 --> 00:43:18,468 - [Man] We toured a lot and we toured really hard. 916 00:43:18,763 --> 00:43:19,969 - I remember him telling me on the phone time, 917 00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:21,595 "Well, last year, we're gonna take a break. 918 00:43:21,891 --> 00:43:25,054 " Last year we played 919 00:43:25,353 --> 00:43:28,345 Can you imagine taking the entire group? 920 00:43:28,648 --> 00:43:32,186 - (Togethefl 278 one-fighters. 921 00:43:32,485 --> 00:43:34,271 - We were beginning to deal with 922 00:43:34,570 --> 00:43:38,108 not only the physical hardship of being on the road. 923 00:43:38,407 --> 00:43:40,899 It got tough because we started taking knocks 924 00:43:41,202 --> 00:43:46,743 for always having songs in the top 40, 925 00:43:47,542 --> 00:43:51,285 so What began as an avant garde underground thing. 926 00:43:51,587 --> 00:43:54,295 "Hey, have you heard this band?" kind of buzz. 927 00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:58,049 We became very mainstream very quickly. 928 00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:04,632 - Is this a horn band with guitar support, 929 00:44:05,518 --> 00:44:11,855 or is this a lead guitarist, lead singing front man 930 00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:14,517 backed by a horn section? 931 00:44:15,069 --> 00:44:22,066 That was the dynamic that rubbed, that rubbed, 932 00:44:22,368 --> 00:44:24,234 and created tension, 933 00:44:25,121 --> 00:44:28,739 and the music is wonderful because of that. 934 00:44:29,041 --> 00:44:32,830 I Waiting for the break of day 935 00:44:35,381 --> 00:44:38,840 I Searching for something to say 936 00:44:41,470 --> 00:44:45,714 I Dancing lights against the sky 937 00:44:48,477 --> 00:44:51,765 I Giving up I close my eyes 938 00:44:53,441 --> 00:44:56,229 - "25 or 6 to 4", that's probably the one 939 00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:57,892 that was on the radio all the time, 940 00:44:58,196 --> 00:44:59,436 on FM radio, that was on, 941 00:44:59,739 --> 00:45:01,946 and it had that nice long solo. 942 00:45:02,241 --> 00:45:05,359 I 25 or six to four 943 00:45:06,871 --> 00:45:09,989 - "25 or 6 to 4" is brilliant. 944 00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:18,297 I guess that's the landmark signature Chicago song for him. 945 00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:23,085 I Staring blindly into space 946 00:45:23,387 --> 00:45:26,345 I could never figure out What the title 947 00:45:26,641 --> 00:45:28,131 of the song was, 948 00:45:29,060 --> 00:45:31,848 because I was stoned. 949 00:45:32,605 --> 00:45:35,017 Is it 25 or 64? 950 00:45:35,483 --> 00:45:39,226 Is it 25 or six two four? 951 00:45:39,528 --> 00:45:42,395 I Wondering how much I can take 952 00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:47,283 I Should have tried to do some more 953 00:45:48,287 --> 00:45:51,154 - But 25 is like- - 25 or 64. 954 00:45:51,457 --> 00:45:53,994 - That song- - But What's 25 mean? 955 00:45:54,293 --> 00:45:57,126 - 25 minutes or 26 minutes to four in the morning, 956 00:45:57,421 --> 00:45:58,035 and you're trying to decide 957 00:45:58,339 --> 00:46:00,171 whether you should do more. 958 00:46:00,466 --> 00:46:02,707 (rock music) 959 00:46:22,947 --> 00:46:24,108 - It's amazing 'cause he seemed 960 00:46:24,407 --> 00:46:26,990 to take those studio recordings 961 00:46:27,285 --> 00:46:29,902 and bring it to a Whole new level playing live. 962 00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:32,070 There was a little more ferocity. 963 00:46:32,373 --> 00:46:36,287 It was live and What he did in that context 964 00:46:36,585 --> 00:46:39,327 was even greater than the record. 965 00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:43,965 Really kind of brought it to a new place 966 00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:46,922 and fun to watch, fun to listen to. 967 00:46:47,221 --> 00:46:51,385 - It's a performance that is right up there 968 00:46:51,684 --> 00:46:54,096 with all the great guitar solos I've ever heard. 969 00:46:57,231 --> 00:46:59,438 - It was just like any riff, really. 970 00:46:59,734 --> 00:47:02,317 Just wanging up and down that neck like a loony. 971 00:47:02,611 --> 00:47:03,396 It was brilliant. 972 00:47:03,904 --> 00:47:05,645 - Most of the time I ever saw him, 973 00:47:05,948 --> 00:47:10,658 he had a telecaster, with stickers for that instrument. 974 00:47:11,746 --> 00:47:13,077 - There was one guitar in particular 975 00:47:13,372 --> 00:47:17,161 that traveled with us and it got its own seat, 976 00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:19,417 'cause he didn't wanna put it through 977 00:47:19,712 --> 00:47:22,454 with the equipment and he didn't wanna 978 00:47:22,757 --> 00:47:26,045 give it to the, put it on the truck, 979 00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:27,584 so it got a seat, 980 00:47:27,887 --> 00:47:29,002 so we would get three seats, 981 00:47:29,305 --> 00:47:31,672 one for Terry and I and one for the guitar. 982 00:47:31,974 --> 00:47:34,386 It was great, never had anyone sitting next to us. 983 00:47:34,685 --> 00:47:36,175 - Do you know Where that guitar is? 984 00:47:36,479 --> 00:47:37,685 With all the Pignose stickers? 985 00:47:37,980 --> 00:47:40,438 - I don't know What happened to that guitar. 986 00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:44,146 - Hank is my dad's roadie, personal roadie, 987 00:47:44,445 --> 00:47:46,061 and was one of his closest friends, 988 00:47:46,364 --> 00:47:47,570 and after my dad passed away, 989 00:47:47,865 --> 00:47:50,072 he acquired a lot of my dad's things. 990 00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:54,202 According to Jim Guercio, he might have the guitar. 991 00:47:54,497 --> 00:47:57,990 (phone rings) (upbeat music) 992 00:47:58,292 --> 00:47:59,248 - [Woman] Your call has been forwarded 993 00:47:59,543 --> 00:48:01,329 to an automated voice message system. 994 00:48:01,629 --> 00:48:02,209 (beeps) 995 00:48:02,505 --> 00:48:03,495 - Hi, Trevor. 996 00:48:03,798 --> 00:48:04,754 It's Michelle. 997 00:48:05,049 --> 00:48:06,881 It's been a while since we talked, 998 00:48:07,176 --> 00:48:12,012 but I'm still interested in meeting up with you 999 00:48:12,306 --> 00:48:16,345 and seeing if you have some guitars. 1000 00:48:17,853 --> 00:48:19,389 I hope to hear from you 'cause I know 1001 00:48:19,688 --> 00:48:21,554 it's been a While and we haven't talked or Whatever, 1002 00:48:21,857 --> 00:48:25,851 but give me a call. 1003 00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:27,814 Hope you're well, bye. 1004 00:48:30,324 --> 00:48:32,065 He didn't answer again. 1005 00:48:32,868 --> 00:48:34,029 Again. 1006 00:48:35,538 --> 00:48:37,950 He really just doesn't answer my phone call anymore. 1007 00:48:38,999 --> 00:48:40,581 I don't really know What to do 1008 00:48:40,876 --> 00:48:44,710 but I guess just keep trying. 1009 00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:49,917 - I could tell you a story that made us close. 1010 00:48:50,219 --> 00:48:52,927 He had just gotten this brand new Porsche 1011 00:48:53,222 --> 00:48:54,587 and it was green so we went out 1012 00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:57,222 and he started drinking a lot, 1013 00:48:58,769 --> 00:49:01,557 and used to have a bad thing to pull us out, 1014 00:49:01,856 --> 00:49:04,188 'cause it stimulates you and- 1015 00:49:05,901 --> 00:49:08,484 - We're talking about coke? - Cocaine. 1016 00:49:08,779 --> 00:49:09,940 - [Michelle] Okay, just to clarify. 1017 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,229 - I'm reluctant to say it, but it's What it is. 1018 00:49:11,532 --> 00:49:13,022 It's just What it was. 1019 00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:16,408 So we drove back and we were in my neighborhood 1020 00:49:16,704 --> 00:49:18,320 and we got up onto Winnetka 1021 00:49:18,622 --> 00:49:22,035 and I will never forget, this was a 35 mile an hour zone, 1022 00:49:22,334 --> 00:49:23,950 and he went through all three gears, 1023 00:49:24,253 --> 00:49:26,915 and I figured, we have to be going 90, 100 miles an hour, 1024 00:49:27,214 --> 00:49:28,796 we went up a hill and at the top of the hill, 1025 00:49:29,091 --> 00:49:31,799 turned down to the right, right at the top, 1026 00:49:32,094 --> 00:49:34,677 well, that car went out sideways on us, 1027 00:49:34,972 --> 00:49:36,462 and we spun around on the back tires, 1028 00:49:36,765 --> 00:49:41,134 hit the curb, rolled it, end over end and up a hill. 1029 00:49:41,437 --> 00:49:43,394 We were upside down and I got out of the car 1030 00:49:43,689 --> 00:49:44,303 and these people came up, 1031 00:49:44,607 --> 00:49:45,187 these people are going, 1032 00:49:45,483 --> 00:49:46,848 "I can't believe you're alive." 1033 00:49:47,151 --> 00:49:47,856 I said, "Where's Terry? 1034 00:49:48,152 --> 00:49:49,734 "Terry, Terry, where are you?" 1035 00:49:50,029 --> 00:49:51,190 He goes, "I'm in here." 1036 00:49:51,489 --> 00:49:52,274 I say, "You okay? " 1037 00:49:52,573 --> 00:49:53,438 He says, "Yeah, I'm looking for my pot. 1038 00:49:53,741 --> 00:49:55,732 "I'll be right out." 1039 00:49:56,035 --> 00:49:57,321 - When I first started on this journey, 1040 00:49:57,620 --> 00:49:59,236 it was like, all those kind of questions. 1041 00:49:59,538 --> 00:50:01,654 Was he dark, was he depressed, was he angry? 1042 00:50:01,957 --> 00:50:05,791 What kind of things were going on there? 1043 00:50:06,086 --> 00:50:08,418 And I think the reality of the situation 1044 00:50:08,714 --> 00:50:11,752 is that he just liked to do drugs 1045 00:50:12,051 --> 00:50:13,917 and drink. - We all did. 1046 00:50:14,220 --> 00:50:15,585 - I think that was his- - We all did. 1047 00:50:15,888 --> 00:50:16,673 - Yeah. - Yeah, we got high. 1048 00:50:16,972 --> 00:50:18,087 We all got high. 1049 00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:20,222 Everybody got high. 1050 00:50:20,518 --> 00:50:23,761 The whole audience was as high as we were 1051 00:50:25,147 --> 00:50:29,061 in those days, but we all partied. 1052 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,773 We were young and we were on top of the world. 1053 00:50:33,781 --> 00:50:36,523 (inspiring music) 1054 00:50:38,327 --> 00:50:40,694 - So I remember calling Terry on the phone 1055 00:50:40,996 --> 00:50:43,909 after a tough tour and I had just smoked a joint 1056 00:50:44,208 --> 00:50:46,199 and I'm sure he was smoking a joint, 1057 00:50:46,502 --> 00:50:50,211 and I said, "Terry, I think that on the next tour, 1058 00:50:50,506 --> 00:50:53,589 "we need to play every fucking hit we have." 1059 00:50:53,884 --> 00:50:57,548 And he said, "Man, you're such a hypocrite." 1060 00:50:57,846 --> 00:51:01,805 And I said, "I just don't think it works 1061 00:51:02,101 --> 00:51:05,219 "just playing What you wanna play. " 1062 00:51:05,521 --> 00:51:09,014 Terry was such an artist that he wanted to stay true 1063 00:51:09,316 --> 00:51:11,398 to the original vision of the band 1064 00:51:11,694 --> 00:51:14,356 which was, "Let's just play what we wanna play. " 1065 00:51:14,655 --> 00:51:17,613 And he was not happy at all about being successful 1066 00:51:17,908 --> 00:51:19,990 and having to play the game, 1067 00:51:20,286 --> 00:51:23,119 and he got more and more unhappy about it. 1068 00:51:23,414 --> 00:51:24,745 - And really Terry was the first one 1069 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,908 to say, because he didn't have too much of a filter, 1070 00:51:29,211 --> 00:51:30,292 when he talked. 1071 00:51:32,172 --> 00:51:33,378 He was (vocalizes). 1072 00:51:33,674 --> 00:51:34,414 He'd just spew it out, 1073 00:51:34,717 --> 00:51:35,923 and he would always say, 1074 00:51:36,218 --> 00:51:37,253 "I'm gonna do my own album 1075 00:51:37,553 --> 00:51:41,012 "and none of you fuckers are gonna play on it." 1076 00:51:41,307 --> 00:51:42,923 It was like, "Okay, I get it. 1077 00:51:43,225 --> 00:51:45,136 "That's fine, man." 1078 00:51:45,436 --> 00:51:48,053 - [Man] There is one thing about your dad you should know. 1079 00:51:48,355 --> 00:51:52,394 I gave him the studio and said, "There is no rules. 1080 00:51:52,693 --> 00:51:56,061 " Roll the tape, you'll figure it out." 1081 00:51:56,363 --> 00:51:59,321 And that was a process that he was coming to terms 1082 00:51:59,617 --> 00:52:01,528 with who he wanted to work with. 1083 00:52:01,827 --> 00:52:04,444 He says, "You know I'm not doing it with these guys." 1084 00:52:04,747 --> 00:52:08,081 And I said, "You do it with Whoever you want." 1085 00:52:08,375 --> 00:52:12,369 I don't know, I don't wanna hurt anybody's relationship. 1086 00:52:13,339 --> 00:52:14,329 He had ideas. 1087 00:52:15,758 --> 00:52:18,841 - I talked to him and the conversation was about 1088 00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:22,003 moving forward in this area of music 1089 00:52:22,306 --> 00:52:23,637 and maybe forming a new group. 1090 00:52:23,932 --> 00:52:26,594 We were gonna take a year off. 1091 00:52:26,894 --> 00:52:29,727 We needed, we'd been working so hard. 1092 00:52:30,022 --> 00:52:32,684 I Here I go again 1093 00:52:35,194 --> 00:52:39,279 I Why does the ghost of love still haunt me 1094 00:52:41,659 --> 00:52:46,244 I It's all been cried about before 1095 00:52:48,457 --> 00:52:52,542 I It's all been cried about before 1096 00:52:54,797 --> 00:52:58,006 - I think he didn't like the music anymore. 1097 00:52:58,300 --> 00:52:59,711 That's fair to say, 1098 00:53:00,010 --> 00:53:02,672 and he certainly wanted a band with no horns in it, 1099 00:53:02,971 --> 00:53:04,132 that's fair to say. 1100 00:53:04,431 --> 00:53:07,514 And so that's Why, deep down in my heart, 1101 00:53:07,810 --> 00:53:11,474 I know that Terry died, the way he died was an accident, 1102 00:53:11,772 --> 00:53:14,639 'cause he was starting a solo album that night 1103 00:53:14,942 --> 00:53:17,809 and there were a couple of people around 1104 00:53:18,112 --> 00:53:19,477 that I think encouraged it, 1105 00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:23,023 and it's too bad because he pulled away 1106 00:53:23,325 --> 00:53:25,657 even from the guys in the group a little bit, 1107 00:53:25,953 --> 00:53:28,991 and started spending more time with these strangers. 1108 00:53:29,289 --> 00:53:32,407 - He was hanging out with a guy who was a drug dealer. 1109 00:53:32,918 --> 00:53:34,408 He was a bad guy. 1110 00:53:34,712 --> 00:53:36,419 - And we had this thing in the band 1111 00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:40,252 because we should have done an intervention, 1112 00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:42,713 but we had this mindset in the band, 1113 00:53:43,011 --> 00:53:45,378 "Well, we're all men. We know our limitations." 1114 00:53:45,681 --> 00:53:47,217 That was bullshit, we didn't. 1115 00:53:47,516 --> 00:53:48,722 Because it was out of hand. 1116 00:53:49,017 --> 00:53:50,428 Drugs were so out of hand in our band 1117 00:53:50,728 --> 00:53:53,220 at that time, Michelle, it was scary. 1118 00:53:53,522 --> 00:53:56,480 We had a meeting with him, 1119 00:54:00,195 --> 00:54:04,530 maybe six weeks before it happened at the Caribou Ranch. 1120 00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:07,112 - I had the Whole group in there 1121 00:54:07,411 --> 00:54:11,029 and I said, "This guy is gonna be dead in six months. 1122 00:54:11,331 --> 00:54:12,867 "These drugs are out of control. 1123 00:54:13,167 --> 00:54:16,159 "I don't wanna contribute to this, 1124 00:54:16,462 --> 00:54:18,248 "what you're doing with your success." 1125 00:54:18,547 --> 00:54:19,503 - And he said, "No, don't worry. 1126 00:54:19,798 --> 00:54:21,084 "I got it under control. 1127 00:54:21,383 --> 00:54:22,293 "It's all okay. " 1128 00:54:22,593 --> 00:54:23,583 - It was not good. 1129 00:54:23,886 --> 00:54:25,627 He wasn't the same guy, 1130 00:54:26,722 --> 00:54:29,555 and I'll never forget what he said. 1131 00:54:31,351 --> 00:54:34,514 He got exorcized, he was upset, 1132 00:54:34,813 --> 00:54:36,520 and he said, "The only one that can 1133 00:54:36,815 --> 00:54:38,647 "say anything to me is Gert. 1134 00:54:38,942 --> 00:54:40,228 "It's like the pot calling the kettle black. 1135 00:54:40,527 --> 00:54:43,519 "You guys do more fucking drugs than me, fuck you." 1136 00:54:43,822 --> 00:54:44,778 And he walked out of control room. 1137 00:54:45,073 --> 00:54:49,567 - [Man] Terry had a hard time, and we all did, 1138 00:54:49,870 --> 00:54:53,204 but he was, especially with the fame part of this. 1139 00:54:53,499 --> 00:54:54,204 It bugged him. 1140 00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:55,786 It bugged probably all of us, 1141 00:54:56,084 --> 00:54:57,666 but he had a hard time dealing with that. 1142 00:54:57,961 --> 00:54:59,167 - Some people handle it better than others 1143 00:54:59,463 --> 00:55:00,453 because it really messed with him. 1144 00:55:00,756 --> 00:55:03,498 He was a really down to earth person 1145 00:55:03,801 --> 00:55:06,384 and a very genuinely good person, 1146 00:55:09,056 --> 00:55:11,923 the trappings of success trapped him. 1147 00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:17,679 - We decided that we would just move out to Malibu, 1148 00:55:17,981 --> 00:55:19,096 build a house. 1149 00:55:19,399 --> 00:55:21,857 He would start a band, no horns, 1150 00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:25,941 just guitars, drums, bass, just basics, 1151 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,481 just really hardcore soulful music. 1152 00:55:28,784 --> 00:55:30,366 The band was gonna be called Cook County. 1153 00:55:30,661 --> 00:55:32,447 He wanted to take Cook County on the road, 1154 00:55:32,746 --> 00:55:35,454 and in that time was when he really started 1155 00:55:35,749 --> 00:55:38,582 getting in trouble with drugs, 1156 00:55:38,877 --> 00:55:40,914 and we started growing apart, 1157 00:55:41,213 --> 00:55:46,799 and he just started becoming really reclusive, 1158 00:55:47,094 --> 00:55:49,426 spending a lot of time by himself. 1159 00:55:49,721 --> 00:55:51,803 I could sense something was off, 1160 00:55:52,099 --> 00:55:53,635 something was way off, he wasn't happy. 1161 00:55:53,934 --> 00:55:55,345 "If we can just get through this album, 1162 00:55:55,644 --> 00:55:57,100 "I'll take the garbage out." 1163 00:55:57,396 --> 00:55:58,352 I remember him saying this to me. 1164 00:55:58,647 --> 00:56:00,103 "I will take the garbage out. 1165 00:56:00,399 --> 00:56:01,639 "I am here for you. 1166 00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:03,057 "We're gonna start over again. 1167 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:04,771 "We're building this house. 1168 00:56:05,070 --> 00:56:08,779 "Our baby's gonna be a healthy, happy girl, 1169 00:56:09,074 --> 00:56:11,486 "and we're gonna move forward." 1170 00:56:12,661 --> 00:56:14,652 That was the last time I saw him, 1171 00:56:15,205 --> 00:56:18,743 and that was the last time I saw him. 1172 00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:31,756 - I had talked to Terry in the morning 1173 00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:34,217 and he says, "Okay, I'll go over to Don's house, 1174 00:56:34,516 --> 00:56:36,473 "and I'll wait there and then my Wife's working 1175 00:56:36,768 --> 00:56:38,304 "and when I get home, I'll come and get you 1176 00:56:38,604 --> 00:56:39,719 "or come over. " 1177 00:56:40,022 --> 00:56:41,387 And when I got back from the city, 1178 00:56:41,690 --> 00:56:43,601 I called over there 'cause I was late. 1179 00:56:43,901 --> 00:56:47,565 I called over to Don's house and a policeman answered, 1180 00:56:47,863 --> 00:56:50,696 and I just lost it. 1181 00:56:51,617 --> 00:56:54,154 And later on, I grabbed Don, 1182 00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:58,697 and I says to him, "Tell me what happened." 1183 00:56:59,249 --> 00:57:02,992 He says that it was late morning or something 1184 00:57:03,295 --> 00:57:04,535 and Terry's sitting on the couch 1185 00:57:04,838 --> 00:57:06,875 and Don was talking to him 1186 00:57:07,174 --> 00:57:08,039 and he got up and he turned around 1187 00:57:08,342 --> 00:57:10,083 and he walked away and Don says, 1188 00:57:10,385 --> 00:57:11,967 "You know, you should put the gun away. " 1189 00:57:12,262 --> 00:57:13,377 Terry says, "Yeah." 1190 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,262 And Terry was playing with the gun, 1191 00:57:15,557 --> 00:57:17,844 that stupid little automatic he had. 1192 00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:19,679 Well, when you've been up for a couple days, 1193 00:57:19,978 --> 00:57:23,016 things get discombobulated, the processes, 1194 00:57:23,315 --> 00:57:24,851 and what happened was, Terry took all the bullets 1195 00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:26,231 out of the gun. 1196 00:57:27,527 --> 00:57:28,938 With an automatic, 1197 00:57:30,572 --> 00:57:33,064 he ejected all the bullets out of the gun, 1198 00:57:33,367 --> 00:57:38,237 then he let the clip go, left one in the chamber, 1199 00:57:38,538 --> 00:57:40,199 so he made a mistake. 1200 00:57:41,959 --> 00:57:42,824 There was one in the chamber 1201 00:57:43,126 --> 00:57:45,788 and he put the empty clip back. 1202 00:57:46,088 --> 00:57:49,251 Terry thought the gun was empty, period. 1203 00:57:51,009 --> 00:57:52,249 And he just played with the gun, 1204 00:57:52,552 --> 00:57:54,338 and he just went like that, anytime, boom, boom. 1205 00:57:54,638 --> 00:57:57,130 - [Anchor 1] The band Chicago suffered a loss today. 1206 00:57:57,432 --> 00:57:59,139 - [Anchor 2] Terry Kath, the guitarist of the successful 1207 00:57:59,434 --> 00:58:01,095 pop band Chicago died today. 1208 00:58:01,395 --> 00:58:05,389 (news casters speaking over each other) 1209 00:58:06,566 --> 00:58:09,649 - [Anchor 3] Terry's death shocked fans across the world. 1210 00:58:09,945 --> 00:58:12,357 (somber music) 1211 00:58:19,871 --> 00:58:23,785 - So it was my dad's birthday last week, 1212 00:58:24,084 --> 00:58:26,371 like a week ago, and there's balloons there 1213 00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:30,208 for my dad's birthday, how cool is that. 1214 00:58:30,507 --> 00:58:32,919 (somber music) 1215 00:58:49,818 --> 00:58:52,230 Terry Alan Kath, 1946 to 1978, 1216 00:58:54,197 --> 00:58:56,404 composer, guitarist, singer. 1217 00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:59,112 The memory of love he left on eaflh 1218 00:58:59,411 --> 00:59:00,901 all the world has shared. 1219 00:59:01,204 --> 00:59:03,320 Rare and gifted gentleman Whose fiches 1220 00:59:03,623 --> 00:59:06,456 were a symphony of songs for young and old 1221 00:59:06,752 --> 00:59:09,244 because he cared, our loved one. 1222 00:59:17,888 --> 00:59:19,094 Is this it? 1223 00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:20,970 Is that the gate? 1224 00:59:21,641 --> 00:59:22,972 - Nice to meet you. 1225 00:59:23,268 --> 00:59:24,303 Nice to meet you. 1226 00:59:24,603 --> 00:59:26,344 - Hi, so good to see you. 1227 00:59:26,646 --> 00:59:27,727 - God, you look great, wow. 1228 00:59:28,023 --> 00:59:30,139 You guys are the last people to be on this ranch. 1229 00:59:30,442 --> 00:59:31,557 - [Michelle] To be on this ranch. 1230 00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:33,976 - [John] And the last cameras ever filmed anything. 1231 00:59:34,279 --> 00:59:35,769 - Well, here we are. 1232 00:59:40,535 --> 00:59:44,028 This was our playground, let me tell you. 1233 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,407 - [Michelle] Look at this, this is amazing. 1234 00:59:47,709 --> 00:59:49,074 This is so beautiful. 1235 00:59:49,377 --> 00:59:50,037 Oh wow. 1236 00:59:52,839 --> 00:59:55,581 Amazing to be back here, isn't it? 1237 00:59:57,385 --> 00:59:59,342 - I know Where we are. 1238 01:00:00,347 --> 01:00:02,930 This is the house that Terry and I lived in. 1239 01:00:03,642 --> 01:00:04,882 This is crazy. 1240 01:00:05,185 --> 01:00:06,801 - This is the house? - Yes. 1241 01:00:07,104 --> 01:00:07,718 - [John] That's it. 1242 01:00:08,021 --> 01:00:09,056 - [Michelle] Oh, cool. 1243 01:00:09,356 --> 01:00:11,438 (laughing) 1244 01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:14,266 Oh, this is so weird. 1245 01:00:15,779 --> 01:00:17,986 Oh, this is so cool. - It's so weird 1246 01:00:18,281 --> 01:00:19,362 being with you. 1247 01:00:21,535 --> 01:00:22,866 - This is the room Where Terry wrote 1248 01:00:23,161 --> 01:00:25,368 "Song of the Evergreens." - Yes! 1249 01:00:27,082 --> 01:00:28,948 - Looking right out that Window. 1250 01:00:29,251 --> 01:00:31,788 I I woke up that morning 1251 01:00:33,004 --> 01:00:36,042 I Feeling so rested and young 1252 01:00:36,341 --> 01:00:38,002 - Oh, this is so cool. 1253 01:00:39,261 --> 01:00:41,377 Oh, Mom. - You know What that is? 1254 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,547 That little brown spot? - Where? 1255 01:00:44,850 --> 01:00:46,716 - That's a patched bullet whole. 1256 01:00:47,018 --> 01:00:48,725 Yeah, one went off by mistake. 1257 01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:51,682 We had our own little world up here. 1258 01:00:51,982 --> 01:00:52,892 - [John] No, you did. 1259 01:00:53,191 --> 01:00:54,352 - It was wonderful. - It was really great. 1260 01:00:54,651 --> 01:00:56,267 - There was music, food and nature. 1261 01:00:56,570 --> 01:01:02,065 What a place to spend the first year of your life together. 1262 01:01:02,367 --> 01:01:04,199 - Yes, life with him. - Yeah. 1263 01:01:04,494 --> 01:01:05,108 - This is it. 1264 01:01:05,412 --> 01:01:06,117 His personality. 1265 01:01:06,413 --> 01:01:06,993 - Look at the face. - Isn't it? 1266 01:01:07,289 --> 01:01:08,199 - You look like him. 1267 01:01:08,498 --> 01:01:10,239 - [Together] She does. 1268 01:01:10,542 --> 01:01:12,203 - Wow. - She does look like her dad. 1269 01:01:12,502 --> 01:01:14,459 - Those eyes are his. 1270 01:01:14,754 --> 01:01:16,586 His eyes, boy the smile. 1271 01:01:16,882 --> 01:01:19,044 It's really beautiful. 1272 01:01:19,342 --> 01:01:19,956 - It was meant to be. 1273 01:01:20,260 --> 01:01:21,045 Well, he's here with us now. 1274 01:01:21,344 --> 01:01:21,924 - Yeah, he is. 1275 01:01:22,220 --> 01:01:23,176 - To meet his grandchildren. 1276 01:01:23,471 --> 01:01:26,839 - Thank you, great spirit. - That's right. 1277 01:01:27,142 --> 01:01:28,883 Oh, wow, this is great. 1278 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,181 Coming back here. 1279 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,687 - [John] Wait 'til you see, Terry's daughter, Terry, 1280 01:01:34,983 --> 01:01:35,848 we'll see you. 1281 01:01:36,151 --> 01:01:37,482 Come on over, bye. 1282 01:01:37,777 --> 01:01:38,858 - It's amazing. 1283 01:01:46,369 --> 01:01:49,862 - It's amazing to bring them here. 1284 01:01:50,165 --> 01:01:52,406 I wasn't gonna do it Without 'em. 1285 01:01:52,709 --> 01:01:53,699 Oh my God, look at this. 1286 01:01:54,002 --> 01:01:55,959 Is this the studio? 1287 01:01:56,254 --> 01:01:56,994 Wow. 1288 01:01:57,297 --> 01:01:59,083 - I was explaining to Hamish that 1289 01:01:59,382 --> 01:02:01,498 that was all glass and they would stand back 1290 01:02:01,801 --> 01:02:03,633 there and record and the sofa was there. 1291 01:02:03,929 --> 01:02:05,511 We would always sit here. 1292 01:02:05,805 --> 01:02:07,091 That was all glass. 1293 01:02:07,390 --> 01:02:08,972 The guys would be behind that glass recording. 1294 01:02:09,267 --> 01:02:11,884 Look how beautiful this way. 1295 01:02:12,187 --> 01:02:13,552 Especially in that day. 1296 01:02:13,855 --> 01:02:15,311 Look how pretty it was. 1297 01:02:15,607 --> 01:02:17,598 Fireplace was always roaring. 1298 01:02:17,901 --> 01:02:23,738 Wow, look how beautiful it still looks, wow. 1299 01:02:24,699 --> 01:02:26,531 Oh look at this. 1300 01:02:27,869 --> 01:02:29,610 Dennis, he was such a trip. 1301 01:02:29,913 --> 01:02:31,654 He was a fun guy. 1302 01:02:31,957 --> 01:02:33,447 - Yeah, he was. - Oh, my God. 1303 01:02:34,251 --> 01:02:35,707 - What, that's the actual flag 1304 01:02:36,002 --> 01:02:36,992 from the album. - Yep. 1305 01:02:37,295 --> 01:02:39,286 - Well, it's great that this part survived, 1306 01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:42,627 'cause this is so wonderful to be here again. 1307 01:02:42,926 --> 01:02:44,041 It's beautiful. 1308 01:02:44,344 --> 01:02:46,881 Let's see this video, come sit with us, Hamish. 1309 01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:49,046 I can't take anymore of this. 1310 01:02:50,558 --> 01:02:51,889 Oh. 1311 01:02:52,185 --> 01:02:55,018 - [Man] This was a Dr. Pepper special done in '73. 1312 01:02:55,313 --> 01:02:58,055 - [Woman] I remember, this was really fun. 1313 01:02:58,358 --> 01:02:59,848 - [Man] This is hilarious. 1314 01:03:00,151 --> 01:03:02,142 - [Woman] Oh my God, yeah. 1315 01:03:04,281 --> 01:03:05,396 Yeah. 1316 01:03:05,907 --> 01:03:08,399 (upbeat music) 1317 01:03:20,297 --> 01:03:21,958 - [Man] They were the greatest band in the fucking world. 1318 01:03:22,257 --> 01:03:24,419 - [Woman] That's true, true. 1319 01:03:25,677 --> 01:03:29,011 Look at Terry. (laughing) 1320 01:03:30,598 --> 01:03:33,590 - The crazy thing, too, about being there, 1321 01:03:33,893 --> 01:03:37,261 being nostalgic with my mother is one thing, 1322 01:03:37,564 --> 01:03:39,680 but all these guys, this is the last day they'll be here 1323 01:03:39,983 --> 01:03:41,314 as well, you know? 1324 01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:45,311 They literally are gonna lock the gate 1325 01:03:45,613 --> 01:03:47,604 and pass over the key when we leave here, 1326 01:03:47,907 --> 01:03:50,399 so watching those videos in that room 1327 01:03:50,702 --> 01:03:53,490 with all those guys, and I was looking at their faces, 1328 01:03:53,788 --> 01:03:56,450 I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is it for them as well." 1329 01:03:56,750 --> 01:04:00,744 What a crazy moment to sit and be a part of, you know? 1330 01:04:03,715 --> 01:04:05,331 I feel transported. 1331 01:04:06,092 --> 01:04:08,504 (somber music) 1332 01:04:08,803 --> 01:04:10,794 I Tell me 1333 01:04:15,310 --> 01:04:18,803 I About the rain 1334 01:04:24,235 --> 01:04:26,602 I Tell me 1335 01:04:30,408 --> 01:04:35,448 I About the fields 1336 01:04:39,626 --> 01:04:45,338 I Tell me about the plan 1337 01:04:49,552 --> 01:04:51,919 So if you could call me back, that'd be great. 1338 01:04:52,222 --> 01:04:55,681 I'd love to hear from you, thanks, bye. 1339 01:04:55,975 --> 01:04:58,216 Trevor won't get back to me. 1340 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,477 It's driving me nuts. 1341 01:05:00,772 --> 01:05:01,557 Like, seriously. 1342 01:05:01,856 --> 01:05:03,767 I guess in terms of finding the guitar, 1343 01:05:04,067 --> 01:05:06,229 I think what we need to do is go to Florida, 1344 01:05:06,528 --> 01:05:09,236 because my uncle said that my grandpa 1345 01:05:09,531 --> 01:05:13,445 took some guitars and he might have that guitar, 1346 01:05:13,743 --> 01:05:14,983 the Pignose guitar. 1347 01:05:15,286 --> 01:05:17,118 My grandfather passed away a while back, 1348 01:05:17,414 --> 01:05:21,749 but his Wife has kept all this stuff for me there, 1349 01:05:22,043 --> 01:05:24,660 cross our fingers that the guitar is there. 1350 01:05:26,005 --> 01:05:27,871 - It is so wonderful that you're here 1351 01:05:28,174 --> 01:05:31,883 and are finally gonna get rid of the guitars. 1352 01:05:32,178 --> 01:05:33,589 - Yeah, she's nervous about having them 1353 01:05:33,888 --> 01:05:34,798 in her house. 1354 01:05:35,098 --> 01:05:36,634 She actually said that every now and again 1355 01:05:36,933 --> 01:05:40,471 people call asking if she wants to sell them 1356 01:05:40,770 --> 01:05:44,013 and she just tells them they're not here. 1357 01:05:44,691 --> 01:05:45,772 - They are not here. 1358 01:05:46,067 --> 01:05:47,353 I don't know Where they are. 1359 01:05:47,652 --> 01:05:51,020 They are in storage, but I don't know Where. 1360 01:05:51,322 --> 01:05:53,404 - The shape is interesting. 1361 01:05:55,034 --> 01:05:56,866 Should we open it here? 1362 01:05:57,287 --> 01:05:58,493 It's really small. 1363 01:05:58,788 --> 01:06:01,450 I don't know too much about guitars. 1364 01:06:01,749 --> 01:06:05,162 It looks like, ovation. 1365 01:06:07,005 --> 01:06:08,336 What was that? 1366 01:06:08,631 --> 01:06:10,417 Not that small actually, that's pretty. 1367 01:06:10,717 --> 01:06:14,301 This is model number 16,244. 1368 01:06:16,389 --> 01:06:17,754 Very nice condition. 1369 01:06:18,057 --> 01:06:20,469 Very well kept, good job Alicia. 1370 01:06:20,768 --> 01:06:21,929 - [Alicia] Yes. 1371 01:06:22,228 --> 01:06:23,889 - [Michelle] Grandpa didn't play any of these, did he? 1372 01:06:24,189 --> 01:06:26,851 - [Alicia] No, no, he never did. 1373 01:06:27,150 --> 01:06:28,015 - [Michelle] 80 would you say 1374 01:06:28,318 --> 01:06:30,275 that my dad was the last one to play it? 1375 01:06:30,570 --> 01:06:31,355 - That's right. 1376 01:06:31,654 --> 01:06:33,770 And now, I never open it, 1377 01:06:34,073 --> 01:06:37,361 so it's like you're putting your fingers 1378 01:06:37,660 --> 01:06:39,822 right on top of his. 1379 01:06:41,748 --> 01:06:44,115 All these things here. - Wow, look at that. 1380 01:06:44,417 --> 01:06:45,282 - I know it's a treasure, 1381 01:06:45,585 --> 01:06:47,667 but now it's going to your hands, 1382 01:06:47,962 --> 01:06:50,374 and I'm gonna be relieved. 1383 01:06:50,673 --> 01:06:54,917 - Wow, look at this case, jeez. 1384 01:06:58,848 --> 01:06:59,758 Oh wow. 1385 01:07:00,058 --> 01:07:02,516 Look at that. - That is an old one. 1386 01:07:02,810 --> 01:07:03,675 - Thing is raw. 1387 01:07:03,978 --> 01:07:05,184 It looks like it was ready to get rebuilt, 1388 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,812 all the hardware is out of it. 1389 01:07:12,904 --> 01:07:13,860 Gibson. 1390 01:07:14,155 --> 01:07:16,396 - [Fogether] Item number two. 1391 01:07:17,325 --> 01:07:19,191 - Yeah, there's two more? 1392 01:07:19,494 --> 01:07:21,826 Oh my god. - Okay, this is secret. 1393 01:07:22,121 --> 01:07:23,907 And even if the thief came 1394 01:07:24,207 --> 01:07:26,539 and say, "Where do you have the guitars?" 1395 01:07:26,834 --> 01:07:29,201 They were never gonna find them. 1396 01:07:29,504 --> 01:07:32,087 - [Michelle] There's one, yeah. 1397 01:07:32,382 --> 01:07:33,838 Careful 'cause it's kind of open. 1398 01:07:34,133 --> 01:07:35,965 - [Alicia] Okay. 1399 01:07:36,261 --> 01:07:38,343 - This is a beautiful case right here. 1400 01:07:38,638 --> 01:07:40,379 - [Alicia] Okay, I take the other one. 1401 01:07:40,682 --> 01:07:41,547 - [Michelle] Okay. 1402 01:07:41,849 --> 01:07:44,216 God, I don't know which one to open first. 1403 01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:45,759 That one says Fender on it. 1404 01:07:46,062 --> 01:07:47,894 - [Alicia] You got this first. 1405 01:07:48,648 --> 01:07:49,604 What's that? 1406 01:07:49,899 --> 01:07:50,980 What does it say on that one? 1407 01:07:51,276 --> 01:07:54,018 - [Michelle] This one says Fender Stratocaster, 1408 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,234 and this one says Terry's favorite. 1409 01:07:59,033 --> 01:08:01,024 So which one first? 1410 01:08:01,327 --> 01:08:03,318 Jason says this one first. 1411 01:08:05,582 --> 01:08:06,663 - [Alicia] These traveled with him 1412 01:08:06,958 --> 01:08:07,868 when he went to play 1413 01:08:08,167 --> 01:08:10,408 because they got the USA. 1414 01:08:10,712 --> 01:08:13,875 - Look at this case, oh, beautiful, wow. 1415 01:08:17,302 --> 01:08:20,215 I Just roll on home 1416 01:08:26,102 --> 01:08:28,844 Number three is on it. 1417 01:08:29,397 --> 01:08:30,637 That's insane. 1418 01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:32,560 Number three. 1419 01:08:34,277 --> 01:08:35,688 This doesn't open. 1420 01:08:39,574 --> 01:08:40,689 Yes! 1421 01:08:41,743 --> 01:08:42,824 Score! 1422 01:08:44,245 --> 01:08:46,828 Yes, you don't even know Alicia. 1423 01:08:48,416 --> 01:08:50,032 Finally. 1424 01:08:50,335 --> 01:08:51,791 That's the guitar. 1425 01:08:54,297 --> 01:08:58,256 I And I'm trying to get along 1426 01:08:58,551 --> 01:08:59,757 Super stoked right now. 1427 01:09:00,053 --> 01:09:01,964 The search is over. 1428 01:09:02,263 --> 01:09:04,220 - [Alicia] And your grandpa is smiling. 1429 01:09:04,515 --> 01:09:05,175 - Yeah. 1430 01:09:06,434 --> 01:09:09,927 - [Alicia] Because that's What he wanted. 1431 01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:13,267 He always say, "She's gonna have the guitars 1432 01:09:13,566 --> 01:09:16,308 "when she knows the value of them." 1433 01:09:19,614 --> 01:09:21,776 - I know the value now, huh? 1434 01:09:22,075 --> 01:09:23,406 The search is over. 1435 01:09:23,701 --> 01:09:26,033 Last touched by my dad, look at that. 1436 01:09:26,329 --> 01:09:27,239 That's crazy. 1437 01:09:28,539 --> 01:09:30,029 Check out the back. 1438 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,365 - [Alicia] Very handy. 1439 01:09:32,669 --> 01:09:35,001 - [Michelle] I don't even know What's going on there. 1440 01:09:35,296 --> 01:09:36,001 - [Alicia] Me neither. 1441 01:09:36,297 --> 01:09:37,708 - [Michelle] That's so brilliant. 1442 01:09:38,007 --> 01:09:40,920 There's tape with picks in it. 1443 01:09:41,844 --> 01:09:43,835 Mission accomplished, Alicia. 1444 01:09:44,972 --> 01:09:45,882 - [Alicia] Yes. 1445 01:09:47,266 --> 01:09:49,758 (guitar music) 1446 01:09:52,313 --> 01:09:57,729 I Sleepless hours and dreamless nights and far aways 1447 01:09:58,236 --> 01:10:05,734 I 000000000, Wishing you were here 1448 01:10:06,035 --> 01:10:11,451 I Heaven knows and lord it shows when I'm away 1449 01:10:12,250 --> 01:10:19,623 I 000000000, Wishing you were here 1450 01:10:21,092 --> 01:10:23,834 - One of the regrets was that I didn't do more for him. 1451 01:10:24,137 --> 01:10:25,673 - Yeah. 1452 01:10:27,265 --> 01:10:29,256 'Cause I really miss him. 1453 01:10:31,811 --> 01:10:33,393 - I still feel so close to Terry. 1454 01:10:33,688 --> 01:10:35,679 I still dream about Terry. 1455 01:10:40,945 --> 01:10:46,566 Every show I sing "Saturday in the Park" 1456 01:10:46,993 --> 01:10:51,453 and there's a verse Where I'm writing about Terry, 1457 01:10:51,748 --> 01:10:57,414 and I always look upstairs when I'm singing every night 1458 01:10:57,712 --> 01:11:00,454 in the show, so he's always with me. 1459 01:11:00,757 --> 01:11:02,464 I really miss him. 1460 01:11:03,801 --> 01:11:07,089 - When that tragedy happened, 1461 01:11:07,388 --> 01:11:09,095 when he left us so early, 1462 01:11:09,390 --> 01:11:13,759 it was as Walt said, it was divine intervention, 1463 01:11:14,061 --> 01:11:17,929 it was Terry's and God's way perhaps 1464 01:11:18,232 --> 01:11:23,978 of giving us the strength to regroup, 1465 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,068 to realize What's really important in our lives 1466 01:11:27,366 --> 01:11:30,859 and to move on and that's by virtue of that. 1467 01:11:31,954 --> 01:11:33,911 He was almost a martyr in that degree. 1468 01:11:34,207 --> 01:11:37,040 That's Why we're still here 45 years later. 1469 01:11:37,335 --> 01:11:38,666 - He saved us. 1470 01:11:38,961 --> 01:11:39,792 He saved us. 1471 01:11:40,755 --> 01:11:41,961 - [Michelle] I'm crying. 1472 01:11:42,256 --> 01:11:43,872 - Sorry. 1473 01:11:44,509 --> 01:11:45,340 Can't help it. - No, it's true. 1474 01:11:45,635 --> 01:11:46,591 - He did. 1475 01:11:48,554 --> 01:11:50,886 - But I say one thing, 1476 01:11:51,182 --> 01:11:55,050 and it's to replace Terry, it took two guys. 1477 01:11:55,353 --> 01:11:57,185 And nothing will ever replace him. 1478 01:11:57,480 --> 01:11:58,845 - Nothing has happened since then 1479 01:11:59,148 --> 01:12:01,059 that has been more difficult than dealing with that 1480 01:12:01,359 --> 01:12:04,101 so the other stuff, no matter how difficult it has been, 1481 01:12:04,403 --> 01:12:08,397 it was easier to get through it than losing Terry. 1482 01:12:11,077 --> 01:12:14,695 - As a creative person, he wasn't done yet, 1483 01:12:17,250 --> 01:12:19,207 and he was up and coming 1484 01:12:19,502 --> 01:12:22,039 and a lot of people were noticing him. 1485 01:12:22,338 --> 01:12:23,578 - I would hate to be the guy 1486 01:12:23,881 --> 01:12:25,713 that had to walk in afterwards and fill that slot 1487 01:12:26,008 --> 01:12:27,919 'cause it's unfillable. 1488 01:12:28,219 --> 01:12:29,254 There's no one like him since, 1489 01:12:29,554 --> 01:12:30,419 and I really think it's wonderful 1490 01:12:30,721 --> 01:12:32,177 that you guys are doing this 1491 01:12:32,473 --> 01:12:33,508 and there's gonna be some awareness 1492 01:12:33,808 --> 01:12:35,298 and maybe some younger cats will go back and go, 1493 01:12:35,601 --> 01:12:38,844 "Dig this guy, Terry Kath, Who's an unsung guitar 1494 01:12:39,146 --> 01:12:41,103 "giant hero legend, that should 1495 01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:44,482 " be getting a lot more press than he is." 1496 01:12:44,777 --> 01:12:47,519 - That's the tragedy, that which could have been. 1497 01:12:47,822 --> 01:12:49,062 - [Michelle] That which could have been. 1498 01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:51,823 - That's the ball game. 1499 01:12:52,118 --> 01:12:55,031 We made some great records. 1500 01:12:55,663 --> 01:12:58,826 We had some great records. - Definitely. 1501 01:13:00,334 --> 01:13:01,665 - I miss him. 1502 01:13:05,715 --> 01:13:08,298 (bagpipe music) 1503 01:13:14,265 --> 01:13:18,429 - When I was 12 years old, I was on my way 1504 01:13:18,728 --> 01:13:21,436 to a hockey practice with my older brother 1505 01:13:21,731 --> 01:13:22,846 and for all intents and purposes, 1506 01:13:23,149 --> 01:13:25,857 he raised me when I was a young man, 1507 01:13:26,152 --> 01:13:27,608 and we're driving to practice 1508 01:13:27,904 --> 01:13:30,271 and some news came over the radio, 1509 01:13:30,573 --> 01:13:31,938 and it was terrible news, 1510 01:13:32,241 --> 01:13:34,528 and my brother pulled off the highway, 1511 01:13:34,827 --> 01:13:36,659 and he put his head in his hands 1512 01:13:36,954 --> 01:13:37,989 and he started to weep, 1513 01:13:38,289 --> 01:13:40,155 and I had never seen my brother cry 1514 01:13:40,458 --> 01:13:42,620 to that point and I've never seen him cry since 1515 01:13:42,919 --> 01:13:45,627 and What had come over the radio 1516 01:13:45,922 --> 01:13:48,584 was that a really brilliant musician 1517 01:13:48,883 --> 01:13:53,172 and songwriter, a man named Terry Kath, 1518 01:13:53,471 --> 01:13:55,382 who was in a band called Chicago 1519 01:13:55,681 --> 01:13:57,922 had prematurely passed away. 1520 01:13:58,225 --> 01:14:01,513 And it was such a profound moment for me 1521 01:14:01,812 --> 01:14:04,725 to see my brother so deeply moved 1522 01:14:05,024 --> 01:14:08,142 that I never forgot how important this man must have been. 1523 01:14:08,444 --> 01:14:11,061 This was the last song that he performed live, 1524 01:14:11,364 --> 01:14:13,355 and he dedicated it to at that time 1525 01:14:13,658 --> 01:14:16,650 his beautiful, beautiful three year old daughter, 1526 01:14:16,953 --> 01:14:19,320 and the lyrics are very simple. 1527 01:14:19,622 --> 01:14:22,489 Little one, it's so nice to have you near me. 1528 01:14:22,792 --> 01:14:25,250 To feel once again the love you bring dear. 1529 01:14:25,544 --> 01:14:29,458 Oh my little one, I am so sorry for the pain you felt. 1530 01:14:29,757 --> 01:14:33,341 Say the word Daddy and I'll make it disappear. 1531 01:14:33,636 --> 01:14:36,003 Oh my little one, bring your love here. 1532 01:14:36,305 --> 01:14:38,467 Little one, I need you near. 1533 01:14:39,475 --> 01:14:42,467 Little one, don't live in fear of the future, 1534 01:14:42,770 --> 01:14:44,556 'cause I will always be there. 1535 01:14:44,855 --> 01:14:47,847 Oh my little one, let your love flow. 1536 01:14:48,150 --> 01:14:49,390 Oh my little one. 1537 01:14:50,027 --> 01:14:52,234 From your father to you. 1538 01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:54,937 I I hope you understand 1539 01:14:55,241 --> 01:14:56,276 - [Michelle] Finding my dad's guitar 1540 01:14:56,575 --> 01:14:58,407 does not conclude my journey. 1541 01:14:58,703 --> 01:14:59,943 In fact, this is only the beginning 1542 01:15:00,246 --> 01:15:02,783 of getting to know my dad. 1543 01:15:03,082 --> 01:15:06,416 I realized that he lives on through those that play his music, 1544 01:15:06,711 --> 01:15:08,918 through his grandchildren, 1545 01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:11,955 and every time someone shares a story about him. 1546 01:15:12,258 --> 01:15:15,922 The reality is, I don't want the journey to end 1547 01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:19,758 and I hope that everyday I can find a moment to honor him, 1548 01:15:20,057 --> 01:15:24,051 and through this film, Terry Kath's legacy lives on. 1549 01:15:25,980 --> 01:15:30,941 I Put your love close, precious one 1550 01:15:31,235 --> 01:15:34,819 I Like a flower you'll grow, little one 1551 01:15:35,114 --> 01:15:41,326 I Someday you'll have your own little one 1552 01:15:41,871 --> 01:15:45,034 I And you will always be there 1553 01:15:45,332 --> 01:15:47,369 (applause) 1554 01:15:47,668 --> 01:15:51,081 - [Woman] Ladies and gentlemen, Rob Thomas. 1555 01:15:54,967 --> 01:15:57,504 - In 1967, a group of musicians came together, 1556 01:15:57,803 --> 01:16:00,716 and they were weaving their city's diverse musical 1557 01:16:01,015 --> 01:16:04,383 influences into one bold, beautiful sound. 1558 01:16:04,685 --> 01:16:07,973 It was a sound that was built on a tight R and B beat, 1559 01:16:08,272 --> 01:16:12,186 beefed up with big-band horns and jolted with riffs 1560 01:16:12,485 --> 01:16:13,771 from Terry Kath, who is one of the best 1561 01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:16,357 and most underrated guitar players of all time. 1562 01:16:16,655 --> 01:16:19,113 (applause) 1563 01:16:19,408 --> 01:16:20,614 These guys are legends. 1564 01:16:20,910 --> 01:16:22,901 They are true musicians, and they are a bad ass 1565 01:16:23,204 --> 01:16:25,241 rock band with horns. 1566 01:16:25,539 --> 01:16:29,703 It is my honor to finally induct Terry Kath, 1567 01:16:30,002 --> 01:16:33,916 Peter Cetera, Danny Seraphine, Walter Parazaider, 1568 01:16:34,215 --> 01:16:37,503 Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, and Robert Lamm, 1569 01:16:37,802 --> 01:16:41,670 Chicago into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. 1570 01:16:41,972 --> 01:16:44,054 (applause) 1571 01:16:45,059 --> 01:16:50,145 - I'm trying to imagine What my dad would say right now, 1572 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,431 since I'm accepting on his behalf, 1573 01:16:53,734 --> 01:16:56,522 and he wasn't too into fame, 1574 01:16:56,821 --> 01:16:59,529 but I think he would be beyond honored 1575 01:16:59,824 --> 01:17:02,657 and extremely excited to be recognized 1576 01:17:02,952 --> 01:17:05,068 along with his very talented band mates 1577 01:17:05,371 --> 01:17:08,909 for this great honor in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, 1578 01:17:09,208 --> 01:17:12,872 and I'd just like to thank you guys 1579 01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:14,660 for letting me get to know my dad 1580 01:17:14,964 --> 01:17:16,420 through his music and the fans, 1581 01:17:16,715 --> 01:17:18,706 I see you with the Terry Kath sign over there. 1582 01:17:19,009 --> 01:17:21,046 (applause) 1583 01:17:21,345 --> 01:17:26,306 Thank you Hall of Fame for getting Chicago in 1584 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,762 and honoring this amazing band. 1585 01:17:29,061 --> 01:17:30,972 (applause) 1586 01:17:31,272 --> 01:17:32,603 - [Man] Thank you. 1587 01:17:42,658 --> 01:17:45,776 I Today when I woke 1588 01:17:46,078 --> 01:17:50,072 I The morning blues hung over me 1589 01:17:52,168 --> 01:17:57,038 I So I looked it straight in the eye 1590 01:18:02,511 --> 01:18:07,096 I I jumped into the shower for about an hour 1591 01:18:08,142 --> 01:18:10,884 I Oh, it was fine 1592 01:18:12,104 --> 01:18:16,473 I Yeah, it helps me all the time 1593 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,647 I It's soothing to my mind 1594 01:18:20,946 --> 01:18:28,946 I Just to see those blues go slipping down the drain 1595 01:18:34,084 --> 01:18:37,827 I Now I usually have my breakfast 1596 01:18:38,130 --> 01:18:42,124 I Which consists of taste and smell 1597 01:18:43,886 --> 01:18:49,928 I Yeah, I could eat it all day long 1598 01:18:53,354 --> 01:18:56,938 I But I only have one prayer 1599 01:18:57,233 --> 01:19:01,602 I And I can find it way out here 1600 01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:08,366 I So I have to take a pass 1601 01:19:09,536 --> 01:19:11,698 I Save it for some pass 1602 01:19:11,997 --> 01:19:16,161 I What I drive, you're not here 1603 01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:20,579 I Oh, sweet, sweet smile 119504

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