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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 Watch Online Movies and Series for FREE www.osdb.link/lm 2 00:00:12,780 --> 00:00:14,780 He scared this poor community half to death. 3 00:00:14,820 --> 00:00:18,490 During that time, to protect myself and my family, 4 00:00:18,530 --> 00:00:20,160 I carried a gun. 5 00:00:21,740 --> 00:00:24,080 So he brought out the worst in me. 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,370 (gunshots) 7 00:00:29,170 --> 00:00:31,880 (Mark Reinig) No one talked, everyone stuck together. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:37,260 That's what small towns do. They just band together. 9 00:00:37,300 --> 00:00:39,050 (woman) They planned that murder. 10 00:00:39,090 --> 00:00:40,970 They had a town meeting, they all sat down together, 11 00:00:41,010 --> 00:00:43,510 they decided that they were gonna do it, and they done it. 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,560 It was my estimation that we did not have 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,810 sufficient evidence to go to trial. 14 00:00:49,850 --> 00:00:52,560 (Steve Booher) After he decided not to press charges, 15 00:00:52,610 --> 00:00:54,230 pretty much everybody 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,940 in Skidmore thought it's finally over. 17 00:00:56,990 --> 00:00:58,990 (man 2) This is a town full of vigilantes. 18 00:00:59,030 --> 00:01:02,280 Everybody else suffers, but they all carry on. 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,540 (Morley Safer) Aren't you now concerned that 20 00:01:04,580 --> 00:01:06,080 now that he's gone, 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,290 this town has a dirty little secret, 22 00:01:09,330 --> 00:01:11,330 and that, in it's own way, 23 00:01:11,380 --> 00:01:14,500 will have as bad an effect on the town as McElroy did? 24 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:16,340 (man 3) The people who were involved in this 25 00:01:16,380 --> 00:01:18,260 and the people who covered it up 26 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:21,050 think they may have been doing a good thing for the community. 27 00:01:21,090 --> 00:01:23,890 They didn't realize that their children 28 00:01:23,930 --> 00:01:25,930 are going to be negatively effected by this. 29 00:01:25,970 --> 00:01:29,390 (Reinig) I think I counted nine mysterious deaths 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,600 since Ken Rex died. 31 00:01:31,650 --> 00:01:33,560 (man 3) It perpetuates itself. 32 00:01:33,610 --> 00:01:37,230 When's the next type of situation gonna occur 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,780 when the community turns on an individual? 34 00:01:41,610 --> 00:01:44,280 (theme music playing) 35 00:02:56,980 --> 00:02:58,690 -(man) Rolling. -(Jim Reich) All right, here we go. 36 00:02:58,730 --> 00:03:00,400 I'll wait for the car to go by. 37 00:03:03,450 --> 00:03:05,530 -Hair looks OK? -(man) Ah, yeah. 38 00:03:05,570 --> 00:03:09,330 OK, here we go. Three, two and one... 39 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,380 It's one of America's most puzzling murders 40 00:03:19,420 --> 00:03:21,510 and it happened 20 years ago today. 41 00:03:21,550 --> 00:03:24,720 Hi, I'm NBC 8's Jim Reich. I'm in Skidmore, Missouri. 42 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,140 It's where they killed the town bully 43 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:29,640 right in front of this bar. 44 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,640 (Reich) All right, so we're rolling. 45 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,390 -Ah, first of all, thanks for taking your time. -Sure. 46 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,730 (Reich) And, uh, this is weird, isn't it? 47 00:03:37,770 --> 00:03:40,860 I mean, the way I see it, and especially goin' over there, 48 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:42,360 I mean, you can see all the books 49 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,820 and all the movies, but this is pretty weird. 50 00:03:44,860 --> 00:03:46,530 It's an unusual case 51 00:03:46,570 --> 00:03:50,080 and it's gotten lots of attention in 20 years. 52 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,700 (Booher) I thought, for all intents and purposes, 53 00:03:52,740 --> 00:03:54,370 it was over. 54 00:03:54,410 --> 00:03:57,370 They shot Ken Rex, he's dead. 55 00:03:57,420 --> 00:04:01,130 It's pretty clear nobody's gonna be apprehended for that crime. 56 00:04:01,170 --> 00:04:02,800 People get away with crimes all the time. 57 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,800 I mean, we would like to say that's not true, 58 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,590 some of them get more attention and some of them get less, 59 00:04:07,630 --> 00:04:10,680 but we have murders and other crimes 60 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,970 that occur all the time, for which there is no prosecution. 61 00:04:14,020 --> 00:04:15,930 Unfortunately, in the United States, 62 00:04:15,980 --> 00:04:17,600 we have cases like that all the time, 63 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,440 we have cases in this office like that all the time. 64 00:04:27,820 --> 00:04:31,490 (Booher) Skidmore was trying to move past it... 65 00:04:34,750 --> 00:04:38,040 but it seems like every anniversary, 66 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,210 there'll be journalists who'll come into town 67 00:04:41,250 --> 00:04:43,670 dredging all this stuff up again. 68 00:04:43,710 --> 00:04:45,590 (Reich) This town is so small. 69 00:04:45,630 --> 00:04:48,510 You know, there's that phrase, "small town gossip". 70 00:04:48,550 --> 00:04:52,010 During the past 20 years, uh, any validity to that? 71 00:04:52,050 --> 00:04:54,640 Well, I'm sure there's been a few discussions, 72 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,140 but for the most part, people never talk about it. 73 00:04:57,180 --> 00:05:00,730 (Cheryl Bowenkamp) The newspaper people and TV people, you can say, 74 00:05:00,770 --> 00:05:02,940 "I don't want to talk to you, go away and leave me alone." 75 00:05:02,980 --> 00:05:04,980 Him, you couldn't do that to. 76 00:05:05,030 --> 00:05:07,190 So yeah, we had put up with all those, 77 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,910 but we didn't have to put up with him. 78 00:05:09,950 --> 00:05:11,950 I think they'd been victimized by McElroy 79 00:05:11,990 --> 00:05:14,990 for such a long time, then you had a lot of outsiders 80 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,790 trying to find out what happened. 81 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:19,710 You know, it was a bonding thing. 82 00:05:19,750 --> 00:05:21,460 It's us against them now. 83 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:23,380 It used to be us against him. 84 00:05:23,420 --> 00:05:26,300 And now it's us against everybody else. 85 00:05:28,380 --> 00:05:30,680 (male reporter) McElroy's wife, Trena, has remarried, 86 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,890 and is living somewhere in the Ozarks, 87 00:05:32,930 --> 00:05:36,390 still fearful of setting foot in Skidmore. 88 00:05:36,430 --> 00:05:38,680 (Richard McFadin) See, the only thing I ever get out of this, 89 00:05:38,730 --> 00:05:40,440 is a do get some free publicity. 90 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,770 I've gotten a lot of business through McElroy. 91 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:47,990 I've had a lot of people that have hired me to represent 'em. 92 00:05:48,030 --> 00:05:49,650 I thought it would die down-- 93 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:51,570 about a year, year and a half, 94 00:05:51,610 --> 00:05:53,570 I wouldn't hear anymore about it. 95 00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:56,200 Every year, it gets bigger and bigger. 96 00:05:58,750 --> 00:06:01,710 (man) I know, all the people here, they want to forgotten, 97 00:06:01,750 --> 00:06:05,630 put it behind them, because it wasn't a good time 98 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:08,050 for Skidmore and their citizens. 99 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:13,640 (Britt Small) The shooting-- the McElroy shooting-- 100 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,970 definitely shriveled the town up. 101 00:06:17,010 --> 00:06:20,560 It just sucked it right up. 102 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:24,190 People stayed in their houses. 103 00:06:24,230 --> 00:06:26,860 People who socialized prior to that, 104 00:06:26,900 --> 00:06:28,690 stopped socializing. 105 00:06:28,730 --> 00:06:32,400 And that really was the bad thing 106 00:06:32,450 --> 00:06:34,240 in the long run. 107 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:37,990 It just was so terrible, 108 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,080 it ruined the town. 109 00:06:41,540 --> 00:06:44,420 And it was a shame. You know, it's a shame. 110 00:06:44,460 --> 00:06:48,500 There are people who couldn't wait to get out, 111 00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:50,090 people left town. 112 00:06:50,130 --> 00:06:52,260 (eerie music) 113 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,800 (Booher) The next thing you know, the bank closes, 114 00:06:57,850 --> 00:07:00,270 the grocery store goes out of business, 115 00:07:00,310 --> 00:07:02,980 and the town just starts to dry up 116 00:07:03,020 --> 00:07:06,230 and evaporate from the face of the earth. 117 00:07:06,270 --> 00:07:09,320 This is where the old schoolhouse used to sit. 118 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,440 But it's gone now. Everything's gone. 119 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,030 I don't think Skidmore would've come down like that 120 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,290 if it hadn't been for that killing. 121 00:07:22,250 --> 00:07:25,170 (Reinig) Since Ken's death, we've had a lot of tragedies 122 00:07:25,210 --> 00:07:29,960 in the town that is unusual for a rural American town. 123 00:07:32,130 --> 00:07:37,430 We're talking murders, suicides, deaths. 124 00:07:37,470 --> 00:07:40,220 (Diane Fanning) Here's a crime that hasn't been solved for decades. 125 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:43,640 No resolution, no closure. 126 00:07:45,190 --> 00:07:48,730 So how do you cope with that? 127 00:07:48,770 --> 00:07:51,780 It's there, it's constant, 128 00:07:51,820 --> 00:07:55,780 it's part of your fabric of life. 129 00:07:55,820 --> 00:07:59,410 Does that compel more violent acts to occur? 130 00:07:59,450 --> 00:08:01,450 Maybe it does. 131 00:08:05,210 --> 00:08:07,750 On my first visit to Skidmore, 132 00:08:07,790 --> 00:08:10,540 I was confronted with the trauma 133 00:08:10,590 --> 00:08:14,130 of the murder of Ken Rex McElroy immediately. 134 00:08:14,170 --> 00:08:16,880 I went in there to buy lunch 135 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:19,090 and I was greeted by a waitress who told me 136 00:08:19,140 --> 00:08:22,220 that I wasn't welcome there and I would not get any service there. 137 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,770 From there, I went up to a convenience store, 138 00:08:25,810 --> 00:08:27,890 and as I got to the door, 139 00:08:27,940 --> 00:08:30,650 there was a man with his arms folded and said, 140 00:08:30,690 --> 00:08:32,230 "No, you can't come in here." 141 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:37,650 Skidmore tends to view any outsiders 142 00:08:37,700 --> 00:08:39,110 as someone coming in 143 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,450 to make an attack on their town. 144 00:08:42,490 --> 00:08:45,950 But I did talk to one woman who said to me, 145 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,170 "Go ahead and write about McElroy and his murder, 146 00:08:51,210 --> 00:08:53,500 but while you do that, 147 00:08:53,550 --> 00:08:56,340 look at the whole picture." 148 00:08:56,380 --> 00:08:59,220 The thing that really got to me 149 00:08:59,260 --> 00:09:03,220 was the current crimes. 150 00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:05,970 There was something wrong here. 151 00:09:06,020 --> 00:09:09,730 (Booher) That's the inexplicable thing about it. 152 00:09:09,770 --> 00:09:12,310 If Ken Rex was such a problem, 153 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,820 then why didn't the town live happily ever after? 154 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:20,280 Why didn't the violence end with his death? 155 00:09:21,780 --> 00:09:24,160 Because it hasn't ended. 156 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Horror and mayhem have visited that town 157 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,210 over and over and over again. 158 00:09:45,470 --> 00:09:47,810 (Ben Espey) Skidmore wasn't on the map for anything 159 00:09:47,850 --> 00:09:50,270 until Ken Rex McElroy. 160 00:09:52,020 --> 00:09:54,230 And now, any little bitty thing that happens, 161 00:09:54,270 --> 00:09:56,570 okay, it's Ken Rex McElroy and then this happens; 162 00:09:56,610 --> 00:10:00,240 it's Ken Rex McElroy then this and this and this has happened. 163 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,070 But I think the outside community that looks in on Skidmore, 164 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,330 they would want you to think that, "Oh, Skidmore's this really bad place." 165 00:10:07,370 --> 00:10:08,790 Well, it's not. 166 00:10:08,830 --> 00:10:10,870 There's a few people that's made it look bad. 167 00:10:12,670 --> 00:10:14,380 My name is Ben Espey. 168 00:10:14,420 --> 00:10:17,840 I was the Nodaway County Sheriff for 16 years. 169 00:10:19,260 --> 00:10:22,630 Back in the time Ken Rex McElroy was operating, 170 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:24,850 I had a different occupation. 171 00:10:26,180 --> 00:10:28,350 I grew up on a farm. 172 00:10:28,390 --> 00:10:30,140 Then when farming got really tough 173 00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:32,020 in the early '80's around here, 174 00:10:32,060 --> 00:10:35,560 I went to the Nodaway County Sheriff's Department. 175 00:10:35,610 --> 00:10:37,650 People will tell you this and it's true. 176 00:10:37,690 --> 00:10:40,490 If you get law enforcement in your blood, 177 00:10:40,530 --> 00:10:41,950 you can't get it out. 178 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:44,530 (dramatic music) 179 00:10:44,570 --> 00:10:47,830 In the time that I was the sheriff, 180 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:52,160 methamphetamine was beginning to become pretty popular. 181 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:55,080 Back then, 182 00:10:55,130 --> 00:10:57,090 prosecuting attorney was David Baird. 183 00:10:57,130 --> 00:11:00,130 He was prosecuting attorney for years and years 184 00:11:00,170 --> 00:11:01,720 in Nodaway County. 185 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,220 Took a lot of cases in front of him. 186 00:11:05,550 --> 00:11:08,810 In the early 2000's, methamphetamine was 187 00:11:08,850 --> 00:11:11,390 by far the big issue. 188 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:14,310 The recipe's not that hard. 189 00:11:14,350 --> 00:11:17,650 We arrested a guy who was walking around Walmart 190 00:11:17,690 --> 00:11:20,530 with his shopping list he'd downloaded off the Internet 191 00:11:20,570 --> 00:11:22,190 of what he needed to make meth. 192 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,240 (Espey) On October 16th, the year 2000, 193 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,990 we got a call at the sheriff's department 194 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,160 that there was a female layin' in the backyard 195 00:11:34,210 --> 00:11:35,580 that was non-responsive. 196 00:11:40,670 --> 00:11:43,380 I, myself, went and when we got there, 197 00:11:43,420 --> 00:11:45,840 there was a young female layin' in the grass 198 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,890 on the backside of the house. 199 00:11:50,010 --> 00:11:53,600 It looked like she was just beaten to death. 200 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,770 There was no... 201 00:11:55,810 --> 00:11:58,360 life left in this girl. 202 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,150 (female reporter) Wendy Gillenwater left this house on 406 Elm 203 00:12:02,190 --> 00:12:04,110 for the last time Monday. 204 00:12:04,150 --> 00:12:06,950 The house remains quiet now, as the sheriff continues 205 00:12:06,990 --> 00:12:08,660 its investigation. 206 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:11,830 Because no one knows exactly what happened inside this house, 207 00:12:11,870 --> 00:12:13,870 friends and family are just going to have to wait 208 00:12:13,910 --> 00:12:15,960 to see what the autopsy will bring them. 209 00:12:19,710 --> 00:12:23,550 Wendy Gillenwater was a small town girl in Skidmore 210 00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:25,590 who grew up in the shadow 211 00:12:25,630 --> 00:12:27,970 of the murder of Ken McElroy. 212 00:12:28,010 --> 00:12:31,010 She was the next generation, 213 00:12:31,050 --> 00:12:35,600 and so was her husband, Greg Dragoo. 214 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:39,980 (Hayes) I really didn't know much about the girl, 215 00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:43,650 just knew that she was involved with wild parties, 216 00:12:43,690 --> 00:12:46,190 and involved with drugs, heavy. 217 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:51,490 And that's about all I knew about her. 218 00:12:51,530 --> 00:12:55,700 She was living about six blocks from me. 219 00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:58,920 And, of course, everybody lives six blocks from me 220 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,460 in this town. 221 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:02,960 She was killed four houses down. 222 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,710 Domestic. 223 00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:07,260 (Reinig) We had police and ambulance come in, 224 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:10,800 and I heard that this young lady Wendy 225 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,300 had been killed. 226 00:13:12,350 --> 00:13:14,140 And I'm going, "What is going on here?" 227 00:13:14,180 --> 00:13:16,980 And it turns out it was the man 228 00:13:17,020 --> 00:13:19,480 that was living with her. 229 00:13:23,610 --> 00:13:27,570 (Kirby Goslee) He'd been abusing her for a long time. 230 00:13:27,610 --> 00:13:29,990 You live with an abusive man long enough, 231 00:13:30,030 --> 00:13:31,660 he will kill ya. 232 00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:36,490 (Fanning) Greg brutalized her for years. 233 00:13:36,540 --> 00:13:38,410 From early in their marriage, 234 00:13:38,460 --> 00:13:41,170 she was beaten up by him regularly. 235 00:13:42,750 --> 00:13:45,000 On the final day of her life, 236 00:13:45,050 --> 00:13:47,090 he started beating her 237 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:49,840 and he just wouldn't stop. 238 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,350 (Reinig) A story I heard was it was methamphetamine rage. 239 00:13:57,390 --> 00:13:58,980 He was high to the point, 240 00:13:59,020 --> 00:14:01,100 he didn't just beat her up, 241 00:14:01,140 --> 00:14:02,730 he pulverized her. 242 00:14:04,110 --> 00:14:06,320 (Fanning) He broke eight ribs in one side 243 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,190 and six ribs in the other. 244 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:11,150 There were lacerations all over her face, 245 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,860 all over her arms. 246 00:14:12,910 --> 00:14:15,370 He was merciless. 247 00:14:17,410 --> 00:14:19,540 (Charlie Puckett) There was some mad blood there, over something-- 248 00:14:19,580 --> 00:14:21,620 And I don't remember what it was, but... 249 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,960 He beat her to death with a flashlight. 250 00:14:27,210 --> 00:14:28,380 (Fanning) He dragged her boy 251 00:14:28,420 --> 00:14:30,220 out of the house, down the stairs, 252 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:32,550 threw her in the yard, 253 00:14:32,590 --> 00:14:37,220 and he saw a neighbor next door, looking on. 254 00:14:38,470 --> 00:14:40,560 That didn't stop him. 255 00:14:43,270 --> 00:14:45,610 Nobody would stop 256 00:14:45,650 --> 00:14:47,520 and help Wendy Gillenwater 257 00:14:47,570 --> 00:14:51,400 when she was laying, bleeding in her front yard. 258 00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:56,240 That shows that there's a lot of people in that town 259 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,490 that don't care. 260 00:15:00,540 --> 00:15:04,710 (Espey) When she was gasping for her last breath of air, 261 00:15:04,750 --> 00:15:06,750 he took a bottle of Dawn dishwater soap 262 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:08,590 and poured it down her mouth. 263 00:15:10,460 --> 00:15:12,260 It was a horrific scene. 264 00:15:14,090 --> 00:15:15,510 (female reporter) A preliminary coroner's report said 265 00:15:15,550 --> 00:15:17,220 Gillenwater died of severe trauma 266 00:15:17,260 --> 00:15:18,560 to her chest and stomach. 267 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,060 Been the coroner for four years, 268 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:23,180 and we haven't dealt with one of these before. 269 00:15:23,230 --> 00:15:24,980 As a policeman, 270 00:15:25,020 --> 00:15:28,150 we've had some experience in this. 271 00:15:28,190 --> 00:15:30,020 (female reporter) 272 00:15:30,070 --> 00:15:32,990 No. 273 00:15:33,030 --> 00:15:37,280 Wendy's mother was only able to identify her daughter 274 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,990 by the rings on her hand. 275 00:15:39,030 --> 00:15:40,490 (female reporter) Dragoo's grandmother says 276 00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:42,250 that seeing Gillenwater in the hospital 277 00:15:42,290 --> 00:15:44,080 gave her nightmares. 278 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,830 The Skidmore residents don't want to talk about it, 279 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,590 and neither does the sheriff, 280 00:15:48,630 --> 00:15:51,840 who points all inquires to the prosecutor. 281 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,220 We've got to figure out what the cause of death is, 282 00:15:54,260 --> 00:15:57,140 and then you must be able to link that cause of death 283 00:15:57,180 --> 00:16:00,680 to the actions of a particular individual. 284 00:16:01,810 --> 00:16:04,020 (Puckett) All I know is, 285 00:16:04,060 --> 00:16:06,690 he got life in prison over that. 286 00:16:11,230 --> 00:16:15,610 (Fanning) For years, Greg was beating her. 287 00:16:15,650 --> 00:16:18,820 People had to know about it that lived nearby. 288 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,990 In a small town like this, 289 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,710 everybody knows everybody's business. 290 00:16:25,750 --> 00:16:28,710 Why didn't someone raise a red flag 291 00:16:28,750 --> 00:16:30,500 and say, "This isn't right, 292 00:16:30,540 --> 00:16:34,340 something's wrong here," but nobody did. 293 00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:39,090 The silence was literally deadly. 294 00:16:58,030 --> 00:17:00,370 (Marty Small) There's no reason to move to Skidmore. 295 00:17:03,910 --> 00:17:07,000 If my family didn't have a farm in Skidmore, 296 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,210 I would never go there again. 297 00:17:15,710 --> 00:17:17,300 My name is Martin Edward Small. 298 00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:19,760 I am the oldest kid 299 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,430 in the Festival family. 300 00:17:21,470 --> 00:17:24,180 I'm an Eagle Scout, and I'm in my 19th year 301 00:17:24,220 --> 00:17:25,680 in the United States Army. 302 00:17:27,390 --> 00:17:29,060 (Britt Small) My son Marty, 303 00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:32,020 he's a captain and a paratrooper, 304 00:17:32,060 --> 00:17:36,360 served in Iraq with Special Forces, twice. 305 00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:41,700 My son was raised on three points. 306 00:17:41,740 --> 00:17:43,830 Know your enemy, 307 00:17:43,870 --> 00:17:46,040 never leave an enemy alive, 308 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,580 the guy with the most bullets wins. 309 00:17:49,710 --> 00:17:51,500 My son happens to be a specialist 310 00:17:51,540 --> 00:17:52,880 with a knife though, 311 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,590 because I am. 312 00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:57,760 So he was taught how to kill with a knife 313 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,130 long before he was taught how to shoot. 314 00:18:02,430 --> 00:18:04,470 (indistinct chatter) 315 00:18:04,510 --> 00:18:06,470 You can't-- No you can't wander around, Dad. 316 00:18:06,510 --> 00:18:08,350 -That's in the shot. -Oh, I see. 317 00:18:08,390 --> 00:18:10,810 And if you're in the bedroom, you can't have the TV up. 318 00:18:10,850 --> 00:18:13,480 OK. Phew. 319 00:18:15,770 --> 00:18:17,650 (Marty Small) There's only certain things 320 00:18:17,690 --> 00:18:20,110 that can be solved only within the legal system. 321 00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:22,700 And if that works, that's great. 322 00:18:22,740 --> 00:18:26,030 But sometimes violence is the only option. 323 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,410 Ken Rex McElroy was a problem in the '80's. 324 00:18:29,450 --> 00:18:33,120 And I was a kid growin' up there. 325 00:18:33,170 --> 00:18:35,750 The next major violent time 326 00:18:35,790 --> 00:18:39,300 was when the Wendy situation happened. 327 00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:44,390 Wendy Gillenwater was two years ahead of me in high school, 328 00:18:44,430 --> 00:18:47,930 and she was another one of those great examples of, 329 00:18:47,970 --> 00:18:49,390 you know, you get out of school, 330 00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:50,890 you find a guy local, 331 00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:52,390 and you never leave. 332 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,810 That happens a lot-- 333 00:18:54,850 --> 00:18:57,820 in which, in turn, resulted in her death. 334 00:18:59,730 --> 00:19:01,530 And that's really sad. 335 00:19:06,620 --> 00:19:09,410 And then soon after that, 336 00:19:09,450 --> 00:19:11,040 Branson disappeared. 337 00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:16,130 (male reporter 1) Folks here in Skidmore have lived 338 00:19:16,170 --> 00:19:18,380 with a big question on their minds. 339 00:19:18,420 --> 00:19:21,090 What happened to one of their own? 340 00:19:21,130 --> 00:19:23,970 (male reporter 2) Branson Perry said he was going to put away jumper cables, 341 00:19:24,010 --> 00:19:26,050 he hasn't been seen since. 342 00:19:26,090 --> 00:19:27,970 (male reporter 1) Perry, who was 20, 343 00:19:28,010 --> 00:19:30,520 vanished from outside his home. 344 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,020 Signs across the area are getting the message out 345 00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:35,650 about this missing man, but still, there have been 346 00:19:35,690 --> 00:19:38,310 no signs of Branson himself. 347 00:19:40,780 --> 00:19:43,150 (James Klino) Branson is my stepson. 348 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,160 My name is James Klino. 349 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,700 I was married to Becky Perry, which is Branson's mother. 350 00:19:51,740 --> 00:19:54,080 I believe it happened on a Thursday. 351 00:19:59,710 --> 00:20:01,920 Branson's father was in the hospital, 352 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,300 and he was getting the house clean 353 00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:05,170 for his dad to come home. 354 00:20:07,220 --> 00:20:09,350 (car engine struggling) 355 00:20:09,390 --> 00:20:12,100 He was also working on getting his father's car running 356 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:13,770 so he could pick him up. 357 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,280 Gina was the girl that happened to be in the house 358 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,860 trying to help him out 359 00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:26,860 to get ready for his dad to come home. 360 00:20:28,910 --> 00:20:31,280 (Fanning) While they're cleaning up the house, 361 00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:33,950 Branson went into one of the kitchen cabinets 362 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,670 and starts rooting around and he came out with something, 363 00:20:37,710 --> 00:20:41,290 and went outside and then came right back in again. 364 00:20:41,340 --> 00:20:42,920 And Gina said, "What were you doing?" 365 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,920 He said, "Oh, nothing. Don't worry about it." 366 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,260 (Klino) He went to go to the shed to return some jumper cables... 367 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,930 and at that point, was not seen from thereafter. 368 00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:59,600 (dramatic music) 369 00:21:09,450 --> 00:21:11,990 (Fanning) Everything just seemed like 370 00:21:12,030 --> 00:21:15,580 it was a normal day in Skidmore, Missouri. 371 00:21:15,620 --> 00:21:17,370 (lawn mover whirring) 372 00:21:17,410 --> 00:21:19,960 It took awhile for everyone to realize 373 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,710 that something was going on here. 374 00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:24,750 (bird screeches) 375 00:21:27,170 --> 00:21:29,550 (male reporter) Jo Ann Stinnett went to check on her grandson 376 00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:32,010 at this house, where he lived with his dad. 377 00:21:32,050 --> 00:21:34,560 Stinnett says the stereo was blaring 378 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,310 and the furnace blasting. 379 00:21:36,350 --> 00:21:38,850 The 20-year-old Branson Perry was gone. 380 00:21:38,890 --> 00:21:41,310 (Jo Ann Stinnett) They found no blood, no weapons, 381 00:21:41,350 --> 00:21:42,650 nothing missing. 382 00:21:42,690 --> 00:21:44,650 He didn't take a thing with him. 383 00:21:45,940 --> 00:21:47,400 (Klino) By Saturday, 384 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,360 they still hadn't heard from Branson. 385 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,450 One of Becky's biggest frustrations 386 00:21:51,490 --> 00:21:52,990 was the fact that the police 387 00:21:53,030 --> 00:21:54,780 did not jump onto the investigation 388 00:21:54,830 --> 00:21:56,910 as soon as they should have. 389 00:21:56,950 --> 00:22:00,000 They should've jumped on it when it was first reported. 390 00:22:00,750 --> 00:22:02,170 (Espey) Early on, 391 00:22:02,210 --> 00:22:03,920 I don't think anybody 392 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,340 suspected foul play. 393 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,550 (Klino) The police said, "He's probably just out 394 00:22:08,590 --> 00:22:10,840 sowing his oats. He'll be back." 395 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,340 And that upset her pretty much. 396 00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:15,510 She goes, "He's not that kind of a boy 397 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,220 that would just do that." 398 00:22:24,150 --> 00:22:27,190 (Fanning) The first question everyone wants to know is, 399 00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:29,280 did he run away? 400 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,410 Well, when Sheriff Espey explored that possibility, 401 00:22:33,450 --> 00:22:37,660 he found Branson's van, his wallet, 402 00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:40,000 all his personal possessions 403 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,210 seemed to be there at the home. 404 00:22:44,460 --> 00:22:48,630 The thing that kind of strikes me about this case is 405 00:22:48,670 --> 00:22:52,760 that he just disappeared in thin air, 406 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,850 just taking some jumper cables out to a shed 407 00:22:55,890 --> 00:22:59,720 behind his house and was never seen again. 408 00:22:59,770 --> 00:23:02,060 The jumper cables were never returned 409 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:04,400 to the shed until 410 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,690 weeks after the fact. 411 00:23:08,020 --> 00:23:10,610 All of a sudden, the jumper cables showed up. 412 00:23:12,610 --> 00:23:14,490 (thunder rumbling) 413 00:23:14,530 --> 00:23:16,450 (Fanning) Two weeks later, 414 00:23:16,490 --> 00:23:20,910 those jumper cables that Branson was taking out to the shed 415 00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:25,460 suddenly showed up in the shed right by the front door. 416 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:28,540 (Klino) It's like somebody's trying to cover something up, 417 00:23:28,590 --> 00:23:29,920 cover their own tracks. 418 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,840 It was beginning to look like someone 419 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,340 in Skidmore was responsible for whatever happened 420 00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:38,470 to Branson Perry. 421 00:23:39,850 --> 00:23:41,600 (Britt) That is really strange. 422 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,640 Bob, his dad, and his mother 423 00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:47,560 were good friends of ours. 424 00:23:47,610 --> 00:23:49,520 In this particular case, 425 00:23:49,570 --> 00:23:53,490 I think we had some strange people in town that day 426 00:23:53,530 --> 00:23:56,160 and nobody really knows much about it. 427 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,740 But those signs have been up a long damn time. 428 00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:03,450 (Hayes) They tried everything they could 429 00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:06,040 to find what happened to the Perry boy. 430 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,920 I don't know if this is true or not, 431 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,460 but I was told 432 00:24:12,510 --> 00:24:16,430 some man did it and he fed him to the hogs. 433 00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:19,930 He was out in his yard and he just up and disappeared. 434 00:24:19,970 --> 00:24:22,010 They even dug up places 435 00:24:22,060 --> 00:24:24,230 and done all kind of stuff all around there, 436 00:24:24,270 --> 00:24:26,810 but I don't know. 437 00:24:26,850 --> 00:24:29,440 Was this drug related? Sex related? 438 00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:32,440 We don't know. 439 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,610 (Booher) Nobody saw anything, 440 00:24:35,650 --> 00:24:38,490 nobody overheard anything, 441 00:24:38,530 --> 00:24:41,370 but make no mistake about this, 442 00:24:41,410 --> 00:24:44,660 just like the murder of Ken Rex McElroy... 443 00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:48,870 somebody knows. 444 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,050 began to suspect foul play in Perry's disappearance. 445 00:25:00,090 --> 00:25:03,010 (female reporter 2) Officials say there's a lot of rumors circulating 446 00:25:03,060 --> 00:25:04,890 about Branson's disappearance. 447 00:25:04,930 --> 00:25:07,230 But still, no answers. 448 00:25:07,270 --> 00:25:09,190 (woman) He's considered and listed 449 00:25:09,230 --> 00:25:11,150 as an endangered missing person. 450 00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:13,860 We've always believed in, and I think the investigation 451 00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,150 has yielded that some kind of foul play has taken place. 452 00:25:18,860 --> 00:25:20,110 (Marty) You know, growing up I learned that 453 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,070 there are predators out there everywhere. 454 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,200 And not all of them are in prison. 455 00:25:27,910 --> 00:25:30,960 There's really two kinds of people in the world, 456 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,130 there's sheeps and wolves, okay. 457 00:25:33,170 --> 00:25:36,010 The sheep is just happy to sit and eat all day. 458 00:25:37,550 --> 00:25:40,340 And life is great, okay, 459 00:25:40,380 --> 00:25:41,930 but then there's wolves. 460 00:25:42,930 --> 00:25:44,850 The wolf is a predator. 461 00:25:44,890 --> 00:25:46,890 It takes from others. 462 00:25:48,850 --> 00:25:51,440 Branson was a pretty cool kid. 463 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,310 I used to go over to his house. 464 00:25:56,530 --> 00:25:59,900 (Britt) Branson was a friend of my children. 465 00:25:59,950 --> 00:26:01,950 He had a really cool play set 466 00:26:01,990 --> 00:26:04,620 that his father built. 467 00:26:04,660 --> 00:26:07,580 (Marty) His dad decided they wanted to be the fun place. 468 00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:09,620 If all the kids come to his house and play, 469 00:26:09,660 --> 00:26:11,370 his kids were going to be safe, right? 470 00:26:13,210 --> 00:26:16,500 (Goslee) He was a young energetic high school boy 471 00:26:16,550 --> 00:26:17,960 when I knew him. 472 00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:19,260 He just got out of high school. 473 00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:21,470 I knew his folks pretty well. 474 00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:23,970 They were a very good family. 475 00:26:24,010 --> 00:26:27,390 They were respected 476 00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:30,480 by all the other people and the neighbors. 477 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,020 (Cheryl Bowenkamp) I knew who he was. 478 00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:34,650 I think he was younger than my kids. 479 00:26:34,690 --> 00:26:37,070 I knew his dad. I knew his grandma. 480 00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:39,610 So I knew who he was. 481 00:26:39,650 --> 00:26:42,530 (Booher) The question, I think, that you have to ask 482 00:26:42,570 --> 00:26:46,160 with Branson Perry, certainly the one, you know, 483 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,830 that I ask as a journalist is, "Why him?" 484 00:26:51,410 --> 00:26:53,210 (Marty) Branson had a lot of potential in life, 485 00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:56,960 but wolves look for weakness, right? 486 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,420 And you don't always have to be physically weak. 487 00:26:59,460 --> 00:27:01,510 Sometimes you can be emotionally weak. 488 00:27:01,550 --> 00:27:03,680 And sometimes, that's even better, 489 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,050 because all they have to do is attack those emotion pieces 490 00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,140 and latch on and give you some hope. 491 00:27:11,180 --> 00:27:13,100 He became an easy target. 492 00:27:14,190 --> 00:27:16,020 Branson was a sheep. 493 00:27:16,060 --> 00:27:18,400 The world can't function with only sheep. 494 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,650 And the world can't function with only wolves. 495 00:27:21,690 --> 00:27:23,320 You gotta have both. 496 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,540 (Reinig) Branson Perry was the son of my neighbor. 497 00:27:31,580 --> 00:27:34,290 He was always a sweet child. 498 00:27:35,580 --> 00:27:37,290 It's just one of those things, 499 00:27:37,330 --> 00:27:38,840 we sit there and go, 500 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,630 "Why is this happening?" 501 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,050 There were no tell-tale signs 502 00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:46,340 of something being wrong. 503 00:27:46,390 --> 00:27:49,930 There was no, "Mom, Dad, I'm going, and, 504 00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:52,180 well, I think I'll see you." 505 00:27:52,220 --> 00:27:53,350 There was none of that. 506 00:27:53,390 --> 00:27:54,770 It was one day he was here 507 00:27:54,810 --> 00:27:56,980 and the next day he was gone. 508 00:28:01,650 --> 00:28:04,190 They put out rewards, 509 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,360 they hired investigators. 510 00:28:06,410 --> 00:28:08,490 They even brought a medium in, 511 00:28:08,530 --> 00:28:12,200 (chuckles) to a séance or do whatever 512 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,410 to feel the vibes of the property. 513 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:18,170 That was our last resort. 514 00:28:19,290 --> 00:28:23,260 And when you run completely out, 515 00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:24,800 what's it gonna hurt? 516 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:28,590 (Becky Klino) No matter how trivial 517 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,220 you may think the information may be, 518 00:28:31,260 --> 00:28:36,600 it could be a very vital clue that will help. 519 00:28:39,610 --> 00:28:41,820 (male officer) This is the case that's went a year, 520 00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:44,440 and we don't have anything really concrete. 521 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:46,990 We don't have anybody arrested for it, 522 00:28:47,030 --> 00:28:49,870 um, we don't know he just completely disappeared 523 00:28:49,910 --> 00:28:51,410 off the face of the earth. 524 00:28:51,450 --> 00:28:53,120 (female reporter) Sheriff Estes reminds 525 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,960 all information is strictly confidential. 526 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,080 (officer) I just ask that the community get involved, 527 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,880 you know, for our closing, for the family. 528 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,750 They wouldn't want one of their own children missing 529 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,550 for a year. 530 00:29:04,590 --> 00:29:09,640 So the community is gonna have to assist our department 531 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,050 in trying to solve this. 532 00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:15,350 (Goslee) Story's kind of got out, you know, 533 00:29:15,390 --> 00:29:18,770 that maybe some of the other kids in town 534 00:29:18,810 --> 00:29:22,360 knew what happened and, of course, didn't say anything. 535 00:29:23,770 --> 00:29:25,650 (Britt) There were a lot of different theories 536 00:29:25,690 --> 00:29:28,990 about who was in the town and who wasn't. 537 00:29:29,030 --> 00:29:31,160 There are other details, 538 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,120 very gruesome details, 539 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,290 that were told to my son. 540 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,290 (Fanning) Two years after Branson Perry went missing, 541 00:29:44,340 --> 00:29:45,920 they got a break in the case. 542 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,260 A young man's disappearance unexplained, 543 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:51,220 and now there's a push for new leads in a cold case. 544 00:29:51,260 --> 00:29:53,390 (male reporter) Two years after Branson vanished, 545 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:55,930 the FBI arrested Jack Wayne Rogers of Fulton. 546 00:29:55,970 --> 00:29:57,930 They found disturbing messages on his computer 547 00:29:57,980 --> 00:30:00,020 claiming he had driven to Skidmore and abducted 548 00:30:00,060 --> 00:30:01,600 a blonde-haired boy. 549 00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:12,320 (Fanning) Jack Wayne Rogers 550 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,620 was a lay minister in Fulton, Missouri. 551 00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:17,370 He went into chat rooms 552 00:30:17,410 --> 00:30:18,870 and he talked about... 553 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:23,830 how he had abducted and murdered 554 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,630 a blonde-haired young man 555 00:30:25,670 --> 00:30:27,670 from Skidmore, Missouri. 556 00:30:30,090 --> 00:30:34,140 That is what brought Jack Wayne Rogers 557 00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:36,680 to the attention of the authorities. 558 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,430 It was pretty gruesome. 559 00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:45,230 (Booher) He was investigated, 560 00:30:45,270 --> 00:30:48,110 and as part of the investigation, 561 00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:49,320 they searched his home. 562 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,110 (camera shutter clicking) 563 00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:53,990 (Espey) We ended up in Fulton, Missouri 564 00:30:54,030 --> 00:30:56,030 for three days doing a search warrant on a guy's house 565 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,700 and diggin' up his backyard. 566 00:30:58,950 --> 00:31:00,580 (Booher) And among the things 567 00:31:00,620 --> 00:31:02,410 that they found 568 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:04,210 was a leather necklace 569 00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:07,880 that had a turtle's claw on it 570 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,840 that Branson Perry's father 571 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,680 positively said, "That's his necklace." 572 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,720 (Fanning) When they looked at that guy's computer, 573 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,180 they found child pornography, for one... 574 00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:26,270 ...but they also found images 575 00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:29,270 of botched gender reassignment surgeries 576 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,400 he performed in motel rooms for another. 577 00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:39,120 (Booher) Jack was a mutilator. 578 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,330 He allegedly performed procedures 579 00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:47,130 on people who didn't like what gender they were, 580 00:31:47,170 --> 00:31:51,460 and he would perform gender nullifications. 581 00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:54,510 Sick-o people, right? 582 00:31:54,550 --> 00:31:56,300 It's unfortunate-- there's people like that 583 00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:57,930 out there in this world. 584 00:31:57,970 --> 00:32:00,390 (Fanning) I got hold of the transcripts 585 00:32:00,430 --> 00:32:02,770 of his chat room 586 00:32:02,810 --> 00:32:05,810 and I couldn't believe 587 00:32:05,850 --> 00:32:08,150 the horrible things he talked about. 588 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,740 Rogers claimed that he knew the perfect way 589 00:32:14,780 --> 00:32:17,280 to impale an individual, 590 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,200 make them suffer. 591 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,620 I heard Branson was tied to a tree naked... 592 00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:29,460 was impaled by a stake 593 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:32,250 through his nether regions, 594 00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:34,630 had his genitals cut off 595 00:32:34,670 --> 00:32:37,180 and eaten in front of him while he was still alive. 596 00:32:42,260 --> 00:32:46,230 Like, they got a picture of 'em on a paper plate, 597 00:32:46,270 --> 00:32:48,310 and then ate 'em right there in front of him 598 00:32:48,350 --> 00:32:49,730 while he was dying. 599 00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:06,960 had something to do with Branson Perry's disappearance. 600 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,630 But he always insisted that he was totally innocent 601 00:33:10,670 --> 00:33:14,500 of any crime against Branson Perry. 602 00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:17,970 He claimed that 603 00:33:18,010 --> 00:33:19,890 what he wrote in a chat room 604 00:33:19,930 --> 00:33:22,600 was not fact, 605 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,220 but fiction that was based 606 00:33:24,260 --> 00:33:26,930 on a story he read about Branson Perry 607 00:33:26,980 --> 00:33:28,850 in the local media. 608 00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:33,770 (Espey) When you're in law enforcement, 609 00:33:33,820 --> 00:33:36,400 you can't determine if a lead is good or bad 610 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,280 until you follow through with it and check it out. 611 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,530 it was just tough because you gotta follow every lead. 612 00:33:43,580 --> 00:33:45,740 Every lead, you have to follow. 613 00:33:45,790 --> 00:33:49,040 And the Branson Perry's case 614 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,380 led us in a lot of different directions. 615 00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:53,790 There was rumor 616 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,130 that Branson was mutilated 617 00:33:56,170 --> 00:34:00,340 and a lot of really bad things happened to him. 618 00:34:01,550 --> 00:34:03,260 And of course, I imagine, 619 00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:04,970 over the years, that got out to the public 620 00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:06,560 that oh, that's what happened to Branson. 621 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,060 No, we figured that out. 622 00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:10,390 And we went in with search warrants, 623 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,150 and that was not the case, we was led astray. 624 00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:16,230 That didn't happen. 625 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,570 (James Klino) The necklace, they believed was Branson's, 626 00:34:20,610 --> 00:34:23,990 in his possession, later found out it was not Branson's, 627 00:34:24,030 --> 00:34:25,740 but Branson had one like it. 628 00:34:27,870 --> 00:34:31,540 But Becky was at every one of his trials, 629 00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:33,250 because, at that point in time, 630 00:34:33,290 --> 00:34:35,790 she believed Jack Rogers had something to do with it. 631 00:34:37,590 --> 00:34:40,170 (Fanning) Authorities chargd Jack Rogers 632 00:34:40,220 --> 00:34:43,640 with the pornography, they charged him 633 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,180 with the body mutilation 634 00:34:46,220 --> 00:34:49,520 and the gender reassignment surgeries. 635 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,100 He was sentenced to 30 years in prison. 636 00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:56,770 Branson Perry's mother was there. 637 00:34:58,070 --> 00:35:00,530 She begged him to tell her 638 00:35:00,570 --> 00:35:02,030 where her son was, 639 00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:05,530 even if dead, where his remains were. 640 00:35:05,570 --> 00:35:07,530 And Rogers insisted 641 00:35:07,580 --> 00:35:10,540 he had nothing to do with Branson's death. 642 00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:14,830 He would not give an inch on that. 643 00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:18,380 (James Klino) When the police did more investigation 644 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:21,010 against Rogers and they said that they are 645 00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:24,300 99% sure that he is not involved in this case, 646 00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:27,760 Becky was devastated. 647 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,640 But she believed the police. 648 00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:39,320 (Reinig) Needless to say, 649 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,690 Bob and Becky had a hard time 650 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:45,030 Bob was never the same after that. 651 00:35:45,070 --> 00:35:47,320 There were times I'd just see him walking down the street, 652 00:35:47,370 --> 00:35:49,030 just walking. 653 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,620 (Becky Klino) I have to keep believing he's alive. 654 00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:55,830 I can't go the other side yet. 655 00:35:55,870 --> 00:35:59,460 I can't go that way. I can't give up hope. 656 00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:02,130 (Booher) I know the family holds out hope 657 00:36:02,170 --> 00:36:06,550 that Branson Perry is alive somewhere. 658 00:36:06,590 --> 00:36:11,470 That's what we all want to believe, 659 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,180 but he's probably not. 660 00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:16,650 (Bob Perry) It'd be easier to know 661 00:36:16,690 --> 00:36:18,810 that he went off with that man 662 00:36:18,860 --> 00:36:20,320 and was murdered. 663 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,820 And, to me, that's what happened. 664 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,570 But it's a terrible thing for the family 665 00:36:28,620 --> 00:36:30,870 to not know for sure. 666 00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:36,870 (slow music) 667 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,880 (Goslee) We don't know what happened. 668 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,220 Really, just nobody knows. 669 00:36:46,220 --> 00:36:49,590 I don't know. I don't know. 670 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,680 (Hayes) The last I knew about that boy was, 671 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:55,480 he was seen in the afternoon 672 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,440 by some friends, out here in a white van, 673 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,360 north of Skidmore, 674 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,480 on the side of the road. 675 00:37:03,530 --> 00:37:06,610 That was the last that this one person'd seen him. 676 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,530 (man) There's stories out there, around town. 677 00:37:10,570 --> 00:37:13,160 I have no idea, but... 678 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,080 something talk about, nothing else goes on here. 679 00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:20,420 (Booher) I grew up in a small town. 680 00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:22,630 I knew who the bad kids were. 681 00:37:22,670 --> 00:37:24,750 So did my mom and dad. 682 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,630 I heard talk 683 00:37:26,670 --> 00:37:30,760 about things that went on in my small home town. 684 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,640 You can't tell me that somebody in that town 685 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,770 doesn't know who Branson Perry was associating with. 686 00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:42,480 (James Klino) Skidmore is a mysterious town. 687 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,610 Things go on there, but nobody has answers, 688 00:37:44,650 --> 00:37:48,200 and nobody wants to come forward with the answers. 689 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,200 Mr. Rogers had nothing to do with it. 690 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,740 I think people are using Mr. Rogers 691 00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:57,790 as a scapegoat for the truth. 692 00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,960 They're trying to push itf 693 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,170 to somebody else 694 00:38:01,210 --> 00:38:03,630 to relieve the pressure 695 00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:06,130 from the investigation on them. 696 00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:10,590 (Fanning) And that explains 697 00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:12,640 the deathly silence 698 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,720 surrounding the disappearance 699 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,140 of that young man. 700 00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:21,140 And that brings us back 701 00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:23,270 to someone in Skidmore. 702 00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:25,480 (dramatic music) 703 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,750 of having some very violent crimes 704 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,760 that's taken place there. 705 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,630 Why it happens in Skidmore 706 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,260 and why it's so infamous 707 00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:55,680 and why the murders are so spectacular... 708 00:38:56,810 --> 00:38:59,220 I have no idea why that happens. 709 00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:03,440 We are now working the disappearance 710 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,810 of Branson Perry-- 711 00:39:05,860 --> 00:39:07,770 that case, I have open now, 712 00:39:07,820 --> 00:39:10,820 since I come into office January 1. 713 00:39:10,860 --> 00:39:12,900 We believe it is a homicide. 714 00:39:14,530 --> 00:39:16,700 We believe we know who is responsible 715 00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:18,990 for the murder. 716 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,540 Branson was no innocent young kid 717 00:39:21,580 --> 00:39:23,500 that somebody just walked up and shot 718 00:39:23,540 --> 00:39:25,500 that he didn't even know. 719 00:39:31,170 --> 00:39:32,840 (Espey) He got involved in the wrong crowd, 720 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,050 and they got to where there was drugs being made. 721 00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,680 Fixing and making methamphetamine. 722 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,850 And Branson Perry got shot 723 00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:46,230 because they thought he might talk. 724 00:39:47,770 --> 00:39:50,610 Stories kind of got out, you know, that maybe it was 725 00:39:50,650 --> 00:39:52,900 a drug deal that went bad. 726 00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:55,740 They killed him and got rid of his body 727 00:39:55,780 --> 00:39:58,030 and end of the story. 728 00:39:58,070 --> 00:39:59,580 (sirens blaring) 729 00:39:59,620 --> 00:40:00,990 (Espey) We knew it was drug-related. 730 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,540 Back then, they would have labs 731 00:40:02,580 --> 00:40:04,410 all over the entire county, 732 00:40:04,460 --> 00:40:07,250 and we made a lot of arrests for methamphetamine. 733 00:40:07,290 --> 00:40:09,750 And we hit 'em pretty hard, as hard as we could. 734 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,300 I'll be a son of a gun if they didn't have a drug house 735 00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:18,090 two doors down from me. 736 00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:21,310 Had one three doors down 737 00:40:21,350 --> 00:40:23,020 the other way from me. 738 00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:26,600 There was about 11 drug houses here in town. 739 00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:29,810 (Hayes) We had one just down the road here, 740 00:40:29,860 --> 00:40:32,570 this old gray house on the corner 741 00:40:32,610 --> 00:40:35,200 where they was makin' meth. 742 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,320 Legalize the stuff! 743 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,990 Let 'em have to go buy it. 744 00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:40,370 (chuckles) Instead of goin' out to the street 745 00:40:40,410 --> 00:40:42,240 and doin' all this and that. 746 00:40:43,410 --> 00:40:45,120 (Marty) When you're from a small town, 747 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,790 there's nothing to do except for go out and drink, 748 00:40:47,830 --> 00:40:51,170 smoke, and nowadays, even more, do drugs. 749 00:40:51,210 --> 00:40:54,420 Branson wanted to do things a certain way in his life, 750 00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:56,760 and it came back to haunt him. 751 00:41:00,260 --> 00:41:01,850 (Fanning) When you look at Branson 752 00:41:01,890 --> 00:41:03,600 and the silence there, 753 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,640 it just makes you think 754 00:41:06,690 --> 00:41:10,020 Skidmore is so haunted 755 00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:14,610 by the vigilante killing of Ken McElroy 756 00:41:14,650 --> 00:41:17,780 that it permeates their culture 757 00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:20,950 and makes violence more likely. 758 00:41:22,410 --> 00:41:24,950 (Reinig) I'm sure a lot of the people that were 759 00:41:24,990 --> 00:41:28,040 the sons and daughters of the witnesses 760 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,790 and perpetrators had to have had an effect, 761 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,960 whether they knew what it was or not, 762 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,130 because the father or the mother 763 00:41:36,170 --> 00:41:38,550 would not be the same person again. 764 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:41,850 You cannot experience 765 00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:45,680 something like this and not have part of you die as well. 766 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:47,310 So I'm sure it had an effect 767 00:41:47,350 --> 00:41:49,520 on the next generation. 768 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,060 (Espey) If a parent gets by with something, 769 00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:54,070 then your next generation down, or two, 770 00:41:54,110 --> 00:41:57,190 and they can think they're gonna get by with it. 771 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,950 And in the case of Skidmore, 772 00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:02,740 there's a possibility that it did drop 773 00:42:02,780 --> 00:42:05,410 from one generation to another to another. 774 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,290 Because we know exactly what's happened 775 00:42:14,340 --> 00:42:16,210 to Branson Perry. 776 00:42:17,210 --> 00:42:19,800 We know who was involved. 777 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,010 And I can tell you right now that they were from Skidmore. 778 00:42:23,050 --> 00:42:25,680 (dramatic music) 778 00:42:26,305 --> 00:43:26,900 Watch Online Movies and Series for FREE www.osdb.link/lm 59202

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