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[Lindsey Kimbrel Keener]
I was Andy's little sister,
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and, you know,I always wanted to bewherever he was.
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Andy definitely wanted
to start a family.
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The first timehe met Stephanie
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I felt like, you know,
they would be a good match
for each other.
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Stephanie didn't really
talk about her family
or about her past.
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And it does make you wonder
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if there was more
to this story than we know.
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She definitely had thatJekyll and Hydekind of behavior.
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Looking back on it now,
there's some signs
that we probably missed.
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[voice shaking]
It's hard to think that
somebody that I let in my life
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is capable
of something so horrible.
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[phone ringing]
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[Stephanie] Oh, God!
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[Stephanie sobbing]
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Andy was my older brother.
Everybody loved him.
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We did have
a great relationship
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growing up.
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I was 10
and Andy had just turned 16
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when my dad passed away.
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That was very hard.
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Andy was thereand was ready to take on
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anything he needed to take on
as the man of the house.
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And he made sure
me and my mom were
very well taken care of.
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Andy always wantedto be a police officerfor as long as I can remember.
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I worked many years
with Andy Kimbrel
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on night shift
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and through
different assignments,
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and he was the nicest,positive attitude, happy,eager,
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every definition
that you could think of
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as a good friend,
a good police officer,
that would fit him to a tee.
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[Capt. Johnny Evans]
When Andy came to work
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for the Vestavia HillsPolice Departmentin October 2002
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he was assigned to my shift.
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When youdescribe a police officeras to serve and protect
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that's exactly what he did.
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Always wanting to do things
for other people.
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A real happy, positive guy.
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[Lindsey] Andy and Dawnwere high school sweethearts.
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Him and Dawn
had a great relationship.
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You could just
feel the love between them
when you were around them.
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Dated for yearsbefore they got married.
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They were,you know, beyond excited
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to welcome a child in it,especially a little girl.
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They were thrilledto be parents.
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He was the happiest
he could ever be
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was when him and his wife
had the baby.
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[Lt. Joel Gaston]
I'd say that it wasa dream come true for him.
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And then subsequently
there were some
medical conditions
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and medical issuesthat took a turn,
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and tragicallyhis wife passed.
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To say that his world stopped
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would bean absolute understatement.
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[Lindsey] Dawn passed away
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shortly aftertheir daughter was born.
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He struggled.
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And I'm sure, you know,having a new babywas a lot for him
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and then, you know,
shortly losing his wife
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was, you know,
a whirlwind for him
at the time.
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And, I mean,
he was never the same.
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[Capt. Evans] Watchingone of your own officers
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go throughwhat he had to go through
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was very traumatic
for all of us.
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[Lindsey] But, you know,
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just like he didwhen my father passed away,
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he really just stepped up,
and did what he needed to do,
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and was a great fatherto Emma.
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We always hoped that Andy
would find just
happiness again,
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just genuine happiness.
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He met Stephanie
at a school carnival.
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Her son was the same ageas Andy's daughter,
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and so they were kind of
at the same stage in life.
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I felt like, you know,
they would be a good match
for each other.
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When they were together
you could tell they were
enjoying each other's company.
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And, you know,
there was an attraction there.
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You could definitelysee that as well.
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Andy would be kind of sillyand just very affectionate.
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It was nice to see Andy happy.
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Stephanie, you know,
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her and I,we would go outto lunch occasionally.
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You know, I always wanted
a sister-in-law,
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you know, to be able
to be close to,
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and I wanted
to get to know her.
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I wanted to be
a part of their lives.
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She was very quiet.
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She didn't really talk about,
you know, her family
or about her past,
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what her background was,
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or any, you know,
personal details
about herself.
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I remember not beingcompletely comfortableto ask her those things
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because she wasn'tsharing those things with meautomatically.
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Her backgroundwas definitely a mystery,
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and it does make you wonder,
you know,
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if there was
more to this story
than we know.
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One day,
my mom came to me and said,
"I think Andy got married."
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And I, of course,
was very caught off guard,
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and I said,
"What do you mean?"
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And she said,"Well, he showed methis piece of paper
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and it looked like
a marriage certificate."
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And I said, you know,
"Surely not."
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I said, "Surely
he would have told us."
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I was a little bit shockedand, you know, obviously hurt
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by, you know, the factthat he had gone offand gotten married
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and didn't, you know,
tell us before or even after.
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Those are things
you tell your family,
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and if you're not
telling your family
those things
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there's a reason
you're not telling them.
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It felt wrong and, you know,it made me wonderwhose idea was this.
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I think there was
some manipulation going on.
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After they had gotten marriedyou could noticesome problems.
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They would seem to be arguing
quite a bit.
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Stephaniedefinitely had a temper.
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I just remember thinking
something's not quite right.
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Andy didn't really
go into a lot of details,
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but, I mean,
he definitely struggled.
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Kind of his whole world
had been rocked at the point.
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She was very manipulative.
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I feel like she did things,you know, to deliberatelyget a rise out of Andy.
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Stephanie absolutely knewhow to press Andy's buttons.
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Her behavior definitely felt
kind of mind gameish,
for lack of better words,
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and then, you know,
so I definitely think
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that was kind ofher lifestyle.
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There were incidents
where their arguments
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got out of controland got physical.
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You know,there was one incident
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she threw Andy's belongings
off the balcony
of their apartment.
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They lived ina very, you know,busy apartment at this point,
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so she had to knowthat other peoplewere going to see it.
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And she may havevery well done itto embarrass him.
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That's humiliating.
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When Andy and Stephaniewould have arguments
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Andy would go overto my mom's house.
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That was his escapeto get away
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and kind of remove himself
from the situation.
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Stephanie would follow him.
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I mean, essentially,track him down.
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And Stephanie
did show up at the house,
banging on the front door.
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She called himand asked himto come outside.
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He went outside
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and she went
immediately up to him
and kissed him.
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He was
very caught off guard by it
and kind of stepped back
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because this, of course,is in the midst of an argument
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and, you know,
asked her what that was about.
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And she said,
"I just wanted to see
if there was anything there."
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And she said,"And there's not."
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And I just remember thinking,
"Well that was, you know,
that was very odd."
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It just seemed like
she was playing a game.
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This is not normal,this is not okay.
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She definitely hadthat Jekyll and Hydekind of behavior.
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She was most definitelytrying to manipulate himand assert her dominance.
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That was definitely the moment
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that I stopped
being friendly with her
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and stopped
reaching out to her.
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At that point I didn't know
what the future held
for their relationship.
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I never in a million years
thought it was gonna
turn out the way it did.
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[Stephanie sobbing]
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I can definitely see Andy
trying to have his life
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appear to be
as normal as possible.
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This is a photographthat Andy had postedon Facebook.
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Looks like a picturethat actually Stephanie tookof the two of them,
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and underneath itthere is a commentthat Stephanie posted
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that says,
"Oh, who's that hot chick
in your car?"
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Stephanie, it appears,has definitelydoctored the photo.
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She seems to havea filter on her face.
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The post is all about her.
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But I also thinkthat was in Andy's nature,
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you know, to be all about her.
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Andy responds with,
[Lindsey reading]
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He thinks, obviously,very highly of her
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and seems to bevery much in love.
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Thinking about it now, I mean,it makes me feel a little bitsick to my stomach.
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Andy, you know,
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even if he knew 100%
that that relationship
was not a good situation,
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I don't think
he ever would have said to us,
"You're right."
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He just tried to bethe tough guy police officer.
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Andy would not have been
the aggressor, in my opinion.
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Andy was not
that type of person.
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He wasn't the typethat would run from anything,
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but he was also
not the person that was trying
to provoke anything, either.
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Looking back on it now,
there's some signs
that we probably missed.
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[Lindsey] I definitely thinkit was getting worse.
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There was a situationwhere Andy's daughterwas on the phone,
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through Snapchat,with a friend of hers.
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And they couldsee them arguing.
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The friend could see
Stephanie and her behavior...
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And had evenbrought up the situationto her mom.
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The girl was that concerned
about what was taking place.
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If that washappening that night,
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it was probably happening
much more frequently
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than we heard about
or knew about.
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In 2018,
when I got reassigned,
I would see him in passing
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and there would be days
that he wouldn't be
as jovial as normal.
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There was a change
in his demeanor.
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[Lt. Gaston]
We had both moved onto different assignments.
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I think each of us knew,
deep inside,
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that we wanted to talk
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but we just never
went to that level.
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[phone ringing]
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[Lindsey] Andy wassecluding himself from us
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and so that was very hard
to wrap our minds around.
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[phone ringing]
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The changesin his personality alone
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would show you
that he was struggling.
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We never, you know,
openly saw him tearful,
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but you could definitely tell
that he was struggling.
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But it really got to the point
where he wasn't spending time
with my mom that much.
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And one dayAndy had come overto the house.
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He had asked meif I could print somethingout for him.
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You could tell he was not
in the best mood.
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We were inthe living room together,
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and my son was kind oftugging on his jeans
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and tryingto get his attention.
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All he had to do
was kind of reach down
and pick him up,
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and, you know, something.
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And it didn't happen.
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I knew somethingwas going on with him
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because that was not like himto do that,
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you know,to go from this doting uncle
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to, you know,somebody that's pretty muchignoring him.
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And that was really a moment,
I guess,
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that was really
a turning point for me
to see that.
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And so I very blatantly said,"Hey, you know,
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I don't know what is going on
with Stephanie
or anything else,
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but, you know,my child deserves to havean uncle that he knows.
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And I'm here to help
but I'm not going to be
the person you call
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when you need something.
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I want to be
a part of your life."
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I proceeded to saysome pretty hurtful things.
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Some I meant, some I didn't,
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and our relationship
at that point
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became pretty much
non-existent.
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That was...
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[voice shaking] That was
the last conversation
I had with him.
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[Lindsey] I wouldreach out to him periodicallyjust to, you know, to say hey.
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I just didn't geta response back.
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But I remember hearingtheir argumentsbecame more frequent.
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The people that lived
in the apartment complex
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reached out to us
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and told us they saw them
arguing in the parking lot.
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These total strangersare reaching out to us,
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you know,to tell us these stories.
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It's one thing
to have an argument
inside your home,
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but when you are completely,
you know, oblivious
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to thatyou're having an argument
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in the middle of a parking lot
with people around,
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and, you know,
I definitely think that shows
some sort of escalation
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that things are getting
out of control.
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There was one incidence
where he went
to my mom's house
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and showed herscratches on his neck
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where Stephanie hadput her hands on his neck.
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I don't know
how they got there,
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if she was choking him
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or just had
put her hands on him
in some form or fashion.
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But there were
visible scratches on his neck
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that appeared to be, you know,
pretty significant.
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You think most people,you know, including myself,
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when they hear ofa domestic violence situation
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you automatically assumeit's probably initiatedby a male,
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but things are not alwayswhat they seem.
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My mother was upset.She was obviouslyvery fearful for him.
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Her words were,"Please come home.
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You need to get away from her.
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She's going to kill you."
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It wasn't a good situation
for Andy, or Stephanie,
or the kids,
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anybody involved in it.
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On all sides it was not
a good situation.
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And it is heartbreaking
to watch.
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He never came out and said,you know,
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"Yes, I know thatour relationshipis not right."
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[Capt. Evans]
I think that Andyjust didn't know how to,
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or didn't knowwhere to go to for help.
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[Lt. Gaston] He was justcompletely hiding itfrom everybody.
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I think that he was good
at turning it on
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when he needed to turn it on,
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that, "I'm fine, I'm good."
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You know,
"Just let me go to work."
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But knowing Andy
and the type of person he was,
he wanted to fix it.
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We were frustratedwatching it all fold out,
278
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and wanting to just
[laughs nervously]
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take him and, you know,and shake him,
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and say, "Listen to us."
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You know,
"Please do something."
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[phone ringing]
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[Stephanie] God.
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[sobbing]
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[dispatch]
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[Stephanie]
287
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[dispatch]
288
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[Stephanie]
289
00:19:52,367 --> 00:19:54,000
[dispatch]
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[Stephanie]
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-[Stephanie] Oh, my God.
-[dispatch]
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[Stephanie]
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[phone ringing]
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[Capt. Evans] About 11:15I received a phone call
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from our
Deputy Chief of Police,
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and he said,
"Andy Kimbrel's been shot."
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And I was like,
"Where's he at?"
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And he said,
"He's on his way to UAB."
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Andy was still alive,
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and I said,"I'm headed to the hospital."
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[phone ringing]
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[Lindsey]
We were asleep in bedand I got the call,
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one of the captains from
Vestavia Police Department,
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and his words,
I will probably
never forget them,
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were...
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"Andy's been shot
and it doesn't look good."
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I remember just panic,
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just absolutely panic
and just not knowing
what to do.
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I didn't know, I mean,
I assumed it happened at work,
you know?
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But I didn't know...
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How do I tell my mom this?
What do I say?
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What, you know, what's next?
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I didn't know what to do.
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[siren wailing]
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[Capt. Evans]
They brought him downto the hospital,
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so I walked intothe emergency room
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and I met with the nurse
and met with the doctor.
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They let me in the room
where they were
working on him,
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and, you know,
I just remember walking in
and seeing Andy laying there.
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And his head was bandaged upand I could seeone of his eyes,
321
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but I just rememberlooking at himand going, "Wake up."
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[machine beeps]
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And that's when I found out
that he had been
shot in the head.
324
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-[machine beeps]
-They had himon a ventilator,
325
00:22:06,634 --> 00:22:10,967
and they said,"We're trying to trackhis brain activity."
326
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And everybody was frantically
trying to do
327
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anything they could for him.
328
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[machine beeps]
329
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And so I remember
asking the doctor,
330
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"If he's shot in the head,
I mean, is he gonna make it?"
331
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[Det. Kyle Pannell]
When I first got the call,
332
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my Sergeant called me
333
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and told me that
there had been a shooting
334
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at an apartment in Gardendale.
335
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When I arrived on the sceneI entered the master bedroom.
336
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The walk-in closet
is to your left,
337
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and about middle-waysdown the wall
338
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there's a door
leading in to the bathroom.
339
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There was a bloody handprinton the toilet.
340
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Inside the closet
I could definitely see
blood splatter.
341
00:23:16,734 --> 00:23:18,166
On one side of the wall
342
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there was
a large pool of blood
in the corner.
343
00:23:22,266 --> 00:23:25,266
At first glanceat the blood splatter
344
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I could tell that it was not
a long-range shot,
345
00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:30,066
that it was fairly close.
346
00:23:31,467 --> 00:23:35,000
The gun wasa nine millimeter Glock.
347
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,867
Fairly standard issuefor law enforcement.
348
00:23:39,266 --> 00:23:42,634
A shell casingwas right outsidethe door of the closet
349
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on the floor of the bedroom.
350
00:23:47,634 --> 00:23:51,967
Whoever fired the shot
was standing in the doorway
of the closet
351
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or very close to the doorwayof the closet.
352
00:24:03,967 --> 00:24:05,000
After leaving the scene,
353
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,100
we returnedto the police department.
354
00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:09,867
Stephanie had been placed
in an interview room.
355
00:24:09,867 --> 00:24:11,533
We just kind ofintroduced ourself
356
00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:14,800
and she agreed to speak to us.
357
00:25:03,166 --> 00:25:04,634
[Pannell] Mmm.
358
00:25:24,533 --> 00:25:28,967
Stephanie told us that
he'd accused her in the past
of being unfaithful.
359
00:25:28,967 --> 00:25:32,867
So, according to Stephanie,
you know, this argument
360
00:25:32,867 --> 00:25:36,000
wasn't, you know,wasn't out of the blue.
361
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,634
She was basically
painting a picture of her
362
00:25:43,634 --> 00:25:46,634
being just an extremely calm,
363
00:25:46,634 --> 00:25:49,433
non-combative,
non-argumentative person.
364
00:26:22,266 --> 00:26:23,634
[detective]
365
00:26:23,634 --> 00:26:25,967
[Stephanie]
366
00:26:38,166 --> 00:26:40,266
I've been in law enforcement
for over 24 years.
367
00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:42,533
I've never seen a gun
just go off.
368
00:26:46,166 --> 00:26:49,867
On a Glockthe safety is actuallyon the trigger.
369
00:26:49,867 --> 00:26:54,166
So in order
to disengage the safety
you have to pull the trigger.
370
00:26:54,166 --> 00:26:58,000
So, you know,
it was obvious
that the trigger was pulled.
371
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,233
[detective]
372
00:27:29,634 --> 00:27:31,266
I know that
if someone is trying
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00:27:31,266 --> 00:27:34,266
to shove something at me
that I don't want
374
00:27:34,266 --> 00:27:36,533
I'm not gonna reach for it,you know?
375
00:27:36,533 --> 00:27:39,634
I'm gonna back away
or I'm gonna put my hands up.
376
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:42,233
I'm not gonna grab it.
377
00:27:43,734 --> 00:27:48,800
The longer she talked,the more question marksand red flags kept popping up.
378
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:53,000
[Will McComb] Under her story,
379
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,467
they were both standing up,
380
00:27:54,467 --> 00:27:56,266
and Andy
had the gun in his hands,
381
00:27:56,266 --> 00:27:59,800
and he shoves it
into her hands
when the gun went off.
382
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:03,734
But the fatal wound,
the only wound on Andy,
383
00:28:03,734 --> 00:28:05,867
was a bullet strike
to his forehead
384
00:28:05,867 --> 00:28:07,166
just about the hairline.
385
00:28:23,166 --> 00:28:29,800
It just wasn't possible
for a gun to go off
at waist level
386
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,900
and the entry wound be
basically on the top
of the head.
387
00:28:34,533 --> 00:28:37,000
It just didn't make sense.
388
00:28:44,467 --> 00:28:45,433
So...
389
00:28:54,367 --> 00:28:56,166
[woman] Paging Dr. Line. Line.
390
00:28:56,166 --> 00:28:57,867
[Lindsey]
When we got to the hospital
391
00:28:57,867 --> 00:29:02,066
one of the pastorsthat the police departmentuses was there.
392
00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:04,867
I don't even rememberwhat he said
393
00:29:04,867 --> 00:29:06,533
but made mentionof the coroner,
394
00:29:07,533 --> 00:29:08,800
[voice shaking] and that's...
395
00:29:10,467 --> 00:29:13,266
The moment that we learned
he had died.
396
00:29:19,634 --> 00:29:22,266
And that's the moment
that I learned
397
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:24,800
that Stephanie had shot him.
398
00:29:27,166 --> 00:29:29,266
I just rememberbeing in shock.
399
00:29:29,266 --> 00:29:33,000
This has to be an accident.This has to be, you know,what could have happened?
400
00:29:34,166 --> 00:29:36,166
Did she realize
what she was doing?
401
00:29:36,166 --> 00:29:39,266
Did she, you know,
was it an accident?
402
00:29:39,266 --> 00:29:44,266
Was it [stutters]
I never, and even to this day,
it's hard to wrap my mind
403
00:29:44,266 --> 00:29:48,634
that she possibly could have
have a gun in her hand
and fire it at him.
404
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:50,266
It's hard...
405
00:29:52,533 --> 00:29:54,000
To make sense of that.
406
00:30:22,867 --> 00:30:25,900
[Det. Pannell]
I mainly kind of wantedto just gauge her reaction.
407
00:30:27,734 --> 00:30:30,000
And so, you know,in the interview
408
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000
you can see mejust kind of laser-focusedon her, really.
409
00:30:33,533 --> 00:30:36,000
She sounded upset
410
00:30:36,734 --> 00:30:39,266
but whenshe raised her head up
411
00:30:41,166 --> 00:30:42,533
she wasn't crying.
412
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:44,734
[Stephanie sighs]
413
00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:56,166
You know, I looked
directly into her eyes
414
00:30:56,166 --> 00:31:00,634
and they were dry as a bone.
415
00:31:00,634 --> 00:31:03,000
There was no tears in her eyes
whatsoever.
416
00:31:07,734 --> 00:31:10,467
What really happened?
What's really
going on here?
417
00:31:10,467 --> 00:31:12,000
What Stephanie didn't know
418
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,100
was down the hall
we had several witnesses
419
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,433
that were present
in the house that night.
420
00:31:32,734 --> 00:31:35,634
When I was told that,
it changed everything.
421
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,734
Down the hall
422
00:31:48,734 --> 00:31:54,967
we had Stephanie's son
and Andy's daughter.
423
00:32:00,634 --> 00:32:02,734
[Det. Pannell]
Andy's daughterbegins to talk,
424
00:32:02,734 --> 00:32:07,900
you know, and she kind of
just starts describing
what she's been through,
425
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:11,734
and, you know, again,
the loss of her mom
at a young age
426
00:32:11,734 --> 00:32:13,900
and now
the loss of her father.
427
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:19,867
It was very tough
not to get emotional
interviewing her.
428
00:32:29,367 --> 00:32:30,433
[Det. Pannell] Mmm-hmm.
429
00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:35,634
-[Emma]
-[Det. Pannell]
430
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,634
[Det. Pannell]
According towhat we were told,
431
00:32:56,634 --> 00:33:00,467
Stephanie wasthe physical abuserin the relationship.
432
00:33:00,467 --> 00:33:03,233
She was the verbal abuserin the relationship.
433
00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:07,867
That painted
quite a different picture
434
00:33:07,867 --> 00:33:10,533
than what
Stephanie was telling us.
435
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:21,266
At one point in the evening,
she had received a text
from Andy saying,
436
00:33:21,266 --> 00:33:23,333
"Lock your doors.
She's crazy."
437
00:33:28,734 --> 00:33:31,166
[Det. Pannell]
Stephanie's son advised us
438
00:33:31,166 --> 00:33:32,800
that he was asleep
the entire time
439
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,066
and he didn't hear anything.
440
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:58,734
[Det. Pannell]
Andy's daughter,
441
00:33:58,734 --> 00:34:02,000
she wasa very important witness
442
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:09,266
because not only
was she directly across
the hallway from the incident,
443
00:34:09,266 --> 00:34:11,066
she was awake the entire time.
444
00:34:57,367 --> 00:35:01,367
When Andy's daughter
made the comment to us
it changed everything.
445
00:35:01,367 --> 00:35:05,000
I know in my mind
this just changed
446
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,967
from an accident
to a possible murder.
447
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:12,500
We went back down the hall
448
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:14,367
and spokewith Stephanie again,
449
00:35:14,367 --> 00:35:16,233
and then we confronted her
with that detail.
450
00:35:29,166 --> 00:35:30,266
[Det. Pannell] So you...
451
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:12,533
Her credibility,
in my eyes, was over.
It was done.
452
00:36:23,467 --> 00:36:26,700
[Will McComb]
In the mugshotshe's clearly injured.
453
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:28,900
Defense attorneysand certainlymembers of the public,
454
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:30,266
they get to see the mugshot,
455
00:36:30,266 --> 00:36:32,700
had some suspicions
as to how she got her injuries
456
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:35,166
and then
blaming the victim, Andy.
457
00:36:36,266 --> 00:36:38,266
Like this comment here,
458
00:36:38,266 --> 00:36:40,433
[Det. Pannell reading]
459
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,367
[Lindsey]
It's extremely hardto read these comments.
460
00:36:51,367 --> 00:36:53,000
Just absolutely heartbreaking.
461
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,900
The first posts says,
462
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:58,333
[Lindsey reading]
463
00:37:01,734 --> 00:37:04,634
Andy was never abusive to her.
464
00:37:04,634 --> 00:37:07,367
You want to scream itfrom the rooftops,
465
00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:11,166
but there are sone peoplethat are gonna, you know,question the situation,
466
00:37:11,166 --> 00:37:14,634
and especially afterseeing her booking photo.
467
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,800
This is a video
that was taken from
the jail surveillance footage
468
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:30,800
that shows Stephanie Keller
whilst she is in custody
and handcuffed.
469
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,634
This was taken a few hoursbefore her mugshot.
470
00:37:34,634 --> 00:37:39,166
The video itselfwas interesting,to say the least.
471
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:46,634
And she, you know,
essentially takes a step
towards the vending machine...
472
00:37:54,467 --> 00:37:57,000
She nails the vending machine
with her face.
473
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,233
It would seem to be
a very intentional act.
474
00:38:04,266 --> 00:38:06,900
[Lindsey] It's very difficultto not be able to reach outto these people
475
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:08,634
that are sayingthese horrible things,you know,
476
00:38:08,634 --> 00:38:12,533
and tell them"You're wrong.This is not how this is.
477
00:38:12,533 --> 00:38:14,433
This isa very different situation."
478
00:38:29,867 --> 00:38:32,166
When we went to the trial
479
00:38:32,166 --> 00:38:35,000
any doubt that I had
that this was
a horrible accident
480
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,967
just went away very quickly.
481
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,266
[voice shaking]
It's hard to think
482
00:38:41,266 --> 00:38:45,000
that somebody
that I let in my life
and had a relationship with
483
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,734
is capable of something
so horrible.
484
00:38:53,266 --> 00:38:56,233
[sniffs]
It's a hard pill to swallow
to think about that.
485
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[Will McComb]
When Andy's daughtertestified,
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her story was very impactful
for the members of the court.
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00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,433
It was impactful for the jury.
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00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,600
The judge did come down
for the sentence of 20 years
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00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,533
in the penitentiary
for Stephanie Keller,
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and that was the maximum
under provocation
manslaughter.
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[Lindsey] I think thatthe sentence that she receivedwas appropriate.
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00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:34,433
I mean, you know,
nothing is ever enough.
It will never be enough.
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00:39:37,266 --> 00:39:40,634
But it also won't change it,
no matter what it is.
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[Capt. Evans]
As a police officer,we're usually the ones
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00:39:45,734 --> 00:39:48,734
that say, "Hey,
here's how you handle
this situation."
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00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:52,367
And when we can't do that
for ourselves
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00:39:52,367 --> 00:39:55,533
we question ourselvesas to whether we're a failure.
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00:39:56,367 --> 00:39:59,800
And so we have
to reach out for help
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00:40:01,166 --> 00:40:04,066
just like
everybody's reaching out
for us to help.
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00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:11,600
Losing Andy had very much
an emotional impact
on the department.
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00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,233
Every member
of the police department
was at the funeral.
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[Lindsey]
People came from everywhere,you know,
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00:40:18,166 --> 00:40:21,433
and they just heard about itand wanted to comeand show their respect.
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00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,734
It makes you so proud
to be driving down the road
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00:40:25,734 --> 00:40:30,333
and seeing flags
[voice shaking]
that are, you know, for him.
506
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,800
It was definitely a moment
to be proud of him.
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00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,867
I mean,I will always be proud of him.
508
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,734
He was a really great person,
and...
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00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:48,367
A great father.
510
00:40:48,367 --> 00:40:50,634
You know,
I wanted to remember
all the good things
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00:40:50,634 --> 00:40:52,166
that he did
as a police officer.
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00:40:58,367 --> 00:41:01,734
Honestly,
if I could say anything to her
I would ask her, "Why?"
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00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,166
I thinkshe's a horrible person.
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00:41:10,533 --> 00:41:12,066
I think she...
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00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:16,634
I...
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00:41:18,266 --> 00:41:19,734
I don't even know
if I should say this,
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00:41:19,734 --> 00:41:22,100
but I think she is,
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00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:24,900
this could happen again
given the opportunity.
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