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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,266 --> 00:00:07,600 [Lindsey Kimbrel Keener] I was Andy's little sister, 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,467 and, you know, I always wanted to be wherever he was. 3 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:14,900 Andy definitely wanted to start a family. 4 00:00:15,700 --> 00:00:17,367 The first time he met Stephanie 5 00:00:17,367 --> 00:00:20,533 I felt like, you know, they would be a good match for each other. 6 00:00:23,367 --> 00:00:28,533 Stephanie didn't really talk about her family or about her past. 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,600 And it does make you wonder 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,734 if there was more to this story than we know. 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,266 She definitely had that Jekyll and Hyde kind of behavior. 10 00:00:41,266 --> 00:00:45,433 Looking back on it now, there's some signs that we probably missed. 11 00:00:48,500 --> 00:00:52,266 [voice shaking] It's hard to think that somebody that I let in my life 12 00:00:52,266 --> 00:00:54,800 is capable of something so horrible. 13 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:03,634 [phone ringing] 14 00:01:04,066 --> 00:01:05,367 [Stephanie] Oh, God! 15 00:01:05,367 --> 00:01:06,900 [Stephanie sobbing] 16 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,533 Andy was my older brother. Everybody loved him. 17 00:01:31,533 --> 00:01:32,967 We did have a great relationship 18 00:01:32,967 --> 00:01:33,900 growing up. 19 00:01:35,867 --> 00:01:40,634 I was 10 and Andy had just turned 16 20 00:01:40,634 --> 00:01:43,000 when my dad passed away. 21 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,634 That was very hard. 22 00:01:46,367 --> 00:01:49,100 Andy was there and was ready to take on 23 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:52,367 anything he needed to take on as the man of the house. 24 00:01:52,367 --> 00:01:55,734 And he made sure me and my mom were very well taken care of. 25 00:01:58,166 --> 00:02:02,266 Andy always wanted to be a police officer for as long as I can remember. 26 00:02:04,166 --> 00:02:07,000 I worked many years with Andy Kimbrel 27 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 on night shift 28 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,700 and through different assignments, 29 00:02:09,700 --> 00:02:15,367 and he was the nicest, positive attitude, happy, eager, 30 00:02:15,367 --> 00:02:17,700 every definition that you could think of 31 00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:22,233 as a good friend, a good police officer, that would fit him to a tee. 32 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,500 [Capt. Johnny Evans] When Andy came to work 33 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:27,367 for the Vestavia Hills Police Department in October 2002 34 00:02:27,367 --> 00:02:29,367 he was assigned to my shift. 35 00:02:29,367 --> 00:02:32,367 When you describe a police officer as to serve and protect 36 00:02:32,367 --> 00:02:33,700 that's exactly what he did. 37 00:02:33,700 --> 00:02:37,634 Always wanting to do things for other people. 38 00:02:37,634 --> 00:02:39,900 A real happy, positive guy. 39 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 [Lindsey] Andy and Dawn were high school sweethearts. 40 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,467 Him and Dawn had a great relationship. 41 00:02:48,467 --> 00:02:52,467 You could just feel the love between them when you were around them. 42 00:02:53,367 --> 00:02:56,467 Dated for years before they got married. 43 00:02:57,867 --> 00:02:59,867 They were, you know, beyond excited 44 00:02:59,867 --> 00:03:02,700 to welcome a child in it, especially a little girl. 45 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:04,800 They were thrilled to be parents. 46 00:03:05,700 --> 00:03:08,000 He was the happiest he could ever be 47 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,533 was when him and his wife had the baby. 48 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,367 [Lt. Joel Gaston] I'd say that it was a dream come true for him. 49 00:03:17,367 --> 00:03:21,166 And then subsequently there were some medical conditions 50 00:03:21,166 --> 00:03:23,367 and medical issues that took a turn, 51 00:03:23,367 --> 00:03:26,333 and tragically his wife passed. 52 00:03:30,100 --> 00:03:32,166 To say that his world stopped 53 00:03:32,166 --> 00:03:34,634 would be an absolute understatement. 54 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:42,166 [Lindsey] Dawn passed away 55 00:03:42,166 --> 00:03:44,233 shortly after their daughter was born. 56 00:03:45,166 --> 00:03:46,533 He struggled. 57 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,266 And I'm sure, you know, having a new baby was a lot for him 58 00:03:53,266 --> 00:03:56,433 and then, you know, shortly losing his wife 59 00:03:57,500 --> 00:04:00,367 was, you know, a whirlwind for him at the time. 60 00:04:00,367 --> 00:04:02,900 And, I mean, he was never the same. 61 00:04:06,367 --> 00:04:08,700 [Capt. Evans] Watching one of your own officers 62 00:04:08,700 --> 00:04:11,367 go through what he had to go through 63 00:04:11,367 --> 00:04:14,800 was very traumatic for all of us. 64 00:04:17,500 --> 00:04:18,634 [Lindsey] But, you know, 65 00:04:18,634 --> 00:04:21,100 just like he did when my father passed away, 66 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:24,600 he really just stepped up, and did what he needed to do, 67 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,533 and was a great father to Emma. 68 00:04:31,467 --> 00:04:35,066 We always hoped that Andy would find just happiness again, 69 00:04:35,066 --> 00:04:36,800 just genuine happiness. 70 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,233 He met Stephanie at a school carnival. 71 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:05,367 Her son was the same age as Andy's daughter, 72 00:05:05,367 --> 00:05:08,600 and so they were kind of at the same stage in life. 73 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,734 I felt like, you know, they would be a good match for each other. 74 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:17,166 When they were together you could tell they were enjoying each other's company. 75 00:05:17,166 --> 00:05:19,600 And, you know, there was an attraction there. 76 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,100 You could definitely see that as well. 77 00:05:22,100 --> 00:05:25,800 Andy would be kind of silly and just very affectionate. 78 00:05:26,533 --> 00:05:28,433 It was nice to see Andy happy. 79 00:05:33,367 --> 00:05:34,867 Stephanie, you know, 80 00:05:34,867 --> 00:05:38,467 her and I, we would go out to lunch occasionally. 81 00:05:38,467 --> 00:05:40,467 You know, I always wanted a sister-in-law, 82 00:05:40,467 --> 00:05:43,266 you know, to be able to be close to, 83 00:05:43,266 --> 00:05:46,066 and I wanted to get to know her. 84 00:05:46,066 --> 00:05:48,433 I wanted to be a part of their lives. 85 00:05:49,734 --> 00:05:51,734 She was very quiet. 86 00:05:51,734 --> 00:05:56,100 She didn't really talk about, you know, her family or about her past, 87 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,100 what her background was, 88 00:05:58,100 --> 00:06:01,734 or any, you know, personal details about herself. 89 00:06:03,533 --> 00:06:07,100 I remember not being completely comfortable to ask her those things 90 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:10,266 because she wasn't sharing those things with me automatically. 91 00:06:11,467 --> 00:06:14,100 Her background was definitely a mystery, 92 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:16,700 and it does make you wonder, you know, 93 00:06:16,700 --> 00:06:19,634 if there was more to this story than we know. 94 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:32,166 One day, my mom came to me and said, "I think Andy got married." 95 00:06:32,166 --> 00:06:34,700 And I, of course, was very caught off guard, 96 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:37,367 and I said, "What do you mean?" 97 00:06:37,367 --> 00:06:41,166 And she said, "Well, he showed me this piece of paper 98 00:06:41,166 --> 00:06:43,100 and it looked like a marriage certificate." 99 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:45,600 And I said, you know, "Surely not." 100 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,166 I said, "Surely he would have told us." 101 00:06:50,533 --> 00:06:53,467 I was a little bit shocked and, you know, obviously hurt 102 00:06:53,467 --> 00:06:57,500 by, you know, the fact that he had gone off and gotten married 103 00:06:57,500 --> 00:07:01,000 and didn't, you know, tell us before or even after. 104 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,700 Those are things you tell your family, 105 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:05,100 and if you're not telling your family those things 106 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:08,000 there's a reason you're not telling them. 107 00:07:11,266 --> 00:07:15,634 It felt wrong and, you know, it made me wonder whose idea was this. 108 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:19,166 I think there was some manipulation going on. 109 00:07:29,867 --> 00:07:33,967 After they had gotten married you could notice some problems. 110 00:07:33,967 --> 00:07:37,900 They would seem to be arguing quite a bit. 111 00:07:39,367 --> 00:07:41,100 Stephanie definitely had a temper. 112 00:07:42,533 --> 00:07:47,433 I just remember thinking something's not quite right. 113 00:07:58,266 --> 00:08:00,734 Andy didn't really go into a lot of details, 114 00:08:02,266 --> 00:08:04,266 but, I mean, he definitely struggled. 115 00:08:04,266 --> 00:08:07,533 Kind of his whole world had been rocked at the point. 116 00:08:08,533 --> 00:08:11,100 She was very manipulative. 117 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:16,433 I feel like she did things, you know, to deliberately get a rise out of Andy. 118 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,367 Stephanie absolutely knew how to press Andy's buttons. 119 00:08:21,367 --> 00:08:25,500 Her behavior definitely felt kind of mind gameish, for lack of better words, 120 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:28,467 and then, you know, so I definitely think 121 00:08:28,467 --> 00:08:30,634 that was kind of her lifestyle. 122 00:08:39,533 --> 00:08:41,867 There were incidents where their arguments 123 00:08:41,867 --> 00:08:44,233 got out of control and got physical. 124 00:08:46,367 --> 00:08:48,367 You know, there was one incident 125 00:08:48,367 --> 00:08:51,233 she threw Andy's belongings off the balcony of their apartment. 126 00:08:54,166 --> 00:08:58,100 They lived in a very, you know, busy apartment at this point, 127 00:08:58,100 --> 00:09:01,367 so she had to know that other people were going to see it. 128 00:09:01,367 --> 00:09:04,333 And she may have very well done it to embarrass him. 129 00:09:04,734 --> 00:09:06,634 That's humiliating. 130 00:09:12,634 --> 00:09:15,367 When Andy and Stephanie would have arguments 131 00:09:15,367 --> 00:09:18,266 Andy would go over to my mom's house. 132 00:09:21,867 --> 00:09:23,600 That was his escape to get away 133 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,533 and kind of remove himself from the situation. 134 00:09:27,867 --> 00:09:30,000 Stephanie would follow him. 135 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,367 I mean, essentially, track him down. 136 00:09:34,467 --> 00:09:38,734 And Stephanie did show up at the house, banging on the front door. 137 00:09:38,734 --> 00:09:41,100 She called him and asked him to come outside. 138 00:09:42,533 --> 00:09:44,066 He went outside 139 00:09:44,066 --> 00:09:46,333 and she went immediately up to him and kissed him. 140 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:53,166 He was very caught off guard by it and kind of stepped back 141 00:09:53,166 --> 00:09:55,100 because this, of course, is in the midst of an argument 142 00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:59,066 and, you know, asked her what that was about. 143 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:03,233 And she said, "I just wanted to see if there was anything there." 144 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,467 And she said, "And there's not." 145 00:10:08,533 --> 00:10:13,433 And I just remember thinking, "Well that was, you know, that was very odd." 146 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:17,467 It just seemed like she was playing a game. 147 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:22,066 This is not normal, this is not okay. 148 00:10:22,066 --> 00:10:26,266 She definitely had that Jekyll and Hyde kind of behavior. 149 00:10:26,266 --> 00:10:31,166 She was most definitely trying to manipulate him and assert her dominance. 150 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:34,166 That was definitely the moment 151 00:10:34,166 --> 00:10:36,166 that I stopped being friendly with her 152 00:10:36,166 --> 00:10:38,266 and stopped reaching out to her. 153 00:10:38,266 --> 00:10:43,166 At that point I didn't know what the future held for their relationship. 154 00:10:43,166 --> 00:10:46,266 I never in a million years thought it was gonna turn out the way it did. 155 00:10:48,867 --> 00:10:50,533 [Stephanie sobbing] 156 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,100 I can definitely see Andy trying to have his life 157 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:13,166 appear to be as normal as possible. 158 00:11:14,367 --> 00:11:18,800 This is a photograph that Andy had posted on Facebook. 159 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,367 Looks like a picture that actually Stephanie took of the two of them, 160 00:11:23,367 --> 00:11:28,900 and underneath it there is a comment that Stephanie posted 161 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:33,500 that says, "Oh, who's that hot chick in your car?" 162 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:37,266 Stephanie, it appears, has definitely doctored the photo. 163 00:11:37,266 --> 00:11:39,867 She seems to have a filter on her face. 164 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,533 The post is all about her. 165 00:11:42,533 --> 00:11:45,333 But I also think that was in Andy's nature, 166 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:48,734 you know, to be all about her. 167 00:11:48,734 --> 00:11:52,066 Andy responds with, [Lindsey reading] 168 00:11:58,700 --> 00:12:00,533 He thinks, obviously, very highly of her 169 00:12:00,533 --> 00:12:04,166 and seems to be very much in love. 170 00:12:04,166 --> 00:12:07,800 Thinking about it now, I mean, it makes me feel a little bit sick to my stomach. 171 00:12:15,500 --> 00:12:17,367 Andy, you know, 172 00:12:17,367 --> 00:12:21,533 even if he knew 100% that that relationship was not a good situation, 173 00:12:21,533 --> 00:12:25,166 I don't think he ever would have said to us, "You're right." 174 00:12:25,166 --> 00:12:27,433 He just tried to be the tough guy police officer. 175 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,100 Andy would not have been the aggressor, in my opinion. 176 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:37,266 Andy was not that type of person. 177 00:12:37,266 --> 00:12:40,634 He wasn't the type that would run from anything, 178 00:12:40,634 --> 00:12:44,333 but he was also not the person that was trying to provoke anything, either. 179 00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:51,333 Looking back on it now, there's some signs that we probably missed. 180 00:12:57,533 --> 00:12:59,333 [Lindsey] I definitely think it was getting worse. 181 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,266 There was a situation where Andy's daughter was on the phone, 182 00:13:05,266 --> 00:13:08,634 through Snapchat, with a friend of hers. 183 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:14,634 And they could see them arguing. 184 00:13:18,266 --> 00:13:21,533 The friend could see Stephanie and her behavior... 185 00:13:25,634 --> 00:13:28,634 And had even brought up the situation to her mom. 186 00:13:28,634 --> 00:13:31,433 The girl was that concerned about what was taking place. 187 00:13:36,634 --> 00:13:37,900 If that was happening that night, 188 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:39,734 it was probably happening much more frequently 189 00:13:39,734 --> 00:13:41,634 than we heard about or knew about. 190 00:13:49,467 --> 00:13:55,367 In 2018, when I got reassigned, I would see him in passing 191 00:13:55,367 --> 00:14:00,266 and there would be days that he wouldn't be as jovial as normal. 192 00:14:00,266 --> 00:14:02,433 There was a change in his demeanor. 193 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:07,000 [Lt. Gaston] We had both moved on to different assignments. 194 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,266 I think each of us knew, deep inside, 195 00:14:09,266 --> 00:14:10,533 that we wanted to talk 196 00:14:10,533 --> 00:14:13,533 but we just never went to that level. 197 00:14:14,533 --> 00:14:15,967 [phone ringing] 198 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,166 [Lindsey] Andy was secluding himself from us 199 00:14:21,166 --> 00:14:24,000 and so that was very hard to wrap our minds around. 200 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,734 [phone ringing] 201 00:14:26,634 --> 00:14:28,867 The changes in his personality alone 202 00:14:28,867 --> 00:14:31,734 would show you that he was struggling. 203 00:14:31,734 --> 00:14:36,367 We never, you know, openly saw him tearful, 204 00:14:36,367 --> 00:14:39,433 but you could definitely tell that he was struggling. 205 00:14:45,867 --> 00:14:51,533 But it really got to the point where he wasn't spending time with my mom that much. 206 00:14:54,266 --> 00:14:57,000 And one day Andy had come over to the house. 207 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,367 He had asked me if I could print something out for him. 208 00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:02,166 You could tell he was not in the best mood. 209 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:05,533 We were in the living room together, 210 00:15:05,533 --> 00:15:08,000 and my son was kind of tugging on his jeans 211 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,734 and trying to get his attention. 212 00:15:11,634 --> 00:15:13,800 All he had to do was kind of reach down and pick him up, 213 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,066 and, you know, something. 214 00:15:15,533 --> 00:15:16,734 And it didn't happen. 215 00:15:18,467 --> 00:15:20,266 I knew something was going on with him 216 00:15:20,266 --> 00:15:22,100 because that was not like him to do that, 217 00:15:22,100 --> 00:15:24,800 you know, to go from this doting uncle 218 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,266 to, you know, somebody that's pretty much ignoring him. 219 00:15:28,266 --> 00:15:31,367 And that was really a moment, I guess, 220 00:15:31,367 --> 00:15:34,066 that was really a turning point for me to see that. 221 00:15:36,533 --> 00:15:42,000 And so I very blatantly said, "Hey, you know, 222 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,500 I don't know what is going on with Stephanie or anything else, 223 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:51,166 but, you know, my child deserves to have an uncle that he knows. 224 00:15:53,367 --> 00:15:57,266 And I'm here to help but I'm not going to be the person you call 225 00:15:57,266 --> 00:15:58,266 when you need something. 226 00:15:58,266 --> 00:16:00,800 I want to be a part of your life." 227 00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:06,066 I proceeded to say some pretty hurtful things. 228 00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:08,533 Some I meant, some I didn't, 229 00:16:08,533 --> 00:16:10,700 and our relationship at that point 230 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:12,634 became pretty much non-existent. 231 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:15,166 That was... 232 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:27,166 [voice shaking] That was the last conversation I had with him. 233 00:16:42,266 --> 00:16:46,533 [Lindsey] I would reach out to him periodically just to, you know, to say hey. 234 00:16:46,533 --> 00:16:49,100 I just didn't get a response back. 235 00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:52,433 But I remember hearing their arguments became more frequent. 236 00:16:55,166 --> 00:16:57,467 The people that lived in the apartment complex 237 00:16:57,467 --> 00:16:58,967 reached out to us 238 00:16:58,967 --> 00:17:02,734 and told us they saw them arguing in the parking lot. 239 00:17:05,066 --> 00:17:07,967 These total strangers are reaching out to us, 240 00:17:07,967 --> 00:17:10,266 you know, to tell us these stories. 241 00:17:10,266 --> 00:17:12,367 It's one thing to have an argument inside your home, 242 00:17:12,367 --> 00:17:15,867 but when you are completely, you know, oblivious 243 00:17:15,867 --> 00:17:17,166 to that you're having an argument 244 00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:20,166 in the middle of a parking lot with people around, 245 00:17:20,166 --> 00:17:24,166 and, you know, I definitely think that shows some sort of escalation 246 00:17:24,166 --> 00:17:25,900 that things are getting out of control. 247 00:17:33,166 --> 00:17:37,000 There was one incidence where he went to my mom's house 248 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,600 and showed her scratches on his neck 249 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,266 where Stephanie had put her hands on his neck. 250 00:17:43,266 --> 00:17:45,166 I don't know how they got there, 251 00:17:45,166 --> 00:17:46,600 if she was choking him 252 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,533 or just had put her hands on him in some form or fashion. 253 00:17:49,533 --> 00:17:51,500 But there were visible scratches on his neck 254 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:54,734 that appeared to be, you know, pretty significant. 255 00:17:55,634 --> 00:17:57,867 You think most people, you know, including myself, 256 00:17:57,867 --> 00:18:00,166 when they hear of a domestic violence situation 257 00:18:00,166 --> 00:18:04,000 you automatically assume it's probably initiated by a male, 258 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,533 but things are not always what they seem. 259 00:18:08,533 --> 00:18:12,867 My mother was upset. She was obviously very fearful for him. 260 00:18:12,867 --> 00:18:15,467 Her words were, "Please come home. 261 00:18:15,467 --> 00:18:16,734 You need to get away from her. 262 00:18:16,734 --> 00:18:18,533 She's going to kill you." 263 00:18:24,533 --> 00:18:29,166 It wasn't a good situation for Andy, or Stephanie, or the kids, 264 00:18:29,166 --> 00:18:30,367 anybody involved in it. 265 00:18:30,367 --> 00:18:33,600 On all sides it was not a good situation. 266 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,533 And it is heartbreaking to watch. 267 00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:40,266 He never came out and said, you know, 268 00:18:40,266 --> 00:18:43,066 "Yes, I know that our relationship is not right." 269 00:18:46,734 --> 00:18:51,166 [Capt. Evans] I think that Andy just didn't know how to, 270 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:56,266 or didn't know where to go to for help. 271 00:18:56,266 --> 00:18:58,800 [Lt. Gaston] He was just completely hiding it from everybody. 272 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,367 I think that he was good at turning it on 273 00:19:02,367 --> 00:19:03,600 when he needed to turn it on, 274 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,533 that, "I'm fine, I'm good." 275 00:19:05,533 --> 00:19:07,433 You know, "Just let me go to work." 276 00:19:10,266 --> 00:19:14,634 But knowing Andy and the type of person he was, he wanted to fix it. 277 00:19:14,634 --> 00:19:17,100 We were frustrated watching it all fold out, 278 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:19,467 and wanting to just [laughs nervously] 279 00:19:19,467 --> 00:19:20,967 take him and, you know, and shake him, 280 00:19:20,967 --> 00:19:22,000 and say, "Listen to us." 281 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,634 You know, "Please do something." 282 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,367 [phone ringing] 283 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,867 [Stephanie] God. 284 00:19:31,867 --> 00:19:33,734 [sobbing] 285 00:19:36,166 --> 00:19:37,867 [dispatch] 286 00:19:37,867 --> 00:19:39,867 [Stephanie] 287 00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:43,333 [dispatch] 288 00:19:43,634 --> 00:19:46,066 [Stephanie] 289 00:19:52,367 --> 00:19:54,000 [dispatch] 290 00:19:54,367 --> 00:19:55,533 [Stephanie] 291 00:19:57,266 --> 00:19:59,066 -[Stephanie] Oh, my God. -[dispatch] 292 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,800 [Stephanie] 293 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:23,734 [phone ringing] 294 00:20:23,734 --> 00:20:25,734 [Capt. Evans] About 11:15 I received a phone call 295 00:20:25,734 --> 00:20:27,266 from our Deputy Chief of Police, 296 00:20:27,266 --> 00:20:30,000 and he said, "Andy Kimbrel's been shot." 297 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,800 And I was like, "Where's he at?" 298 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,634 And he said, "He's on his way to UAB." 299 00:20:34,634 --> 00:20:36,066 Andy was still alive, 300 00:20:36,066 --> 00:20:38,634 and I said, "I'm headed to the hospital." 301 00:20:41,066 --> 00:20:42,900 [phone ringing] 302 00:20:45,367 --> 00:20:50,000 [Lindsey] We were asleep in bed and I got the call, 303 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,467 one of the captains from Vestavia Police Department, 304 00:20:53,467 --> 00:20:57,700 and his words, I will probably never forget them, 305 00:20:57,700 --> 00:20:59,634 were... 306 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,433 "Andy's been shot and it doesn't look good." 307 00:21:04,367 --> 00:21:09,100 I remember just panic, 308 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:15,266 just absolutely panic and just not knowing what to do. 309 00:21:15,266 --> 00:21:20,467 I didn't know, I mean, I assumed it happened at work, you know? 310 00:21:20,467 --> 00:21:22,166 But I didn't know... 311 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:25,533 How do I tell my mom this? What do I say? 312 00:21:25,533 --> 00:21:27,166 What, you know, what's next? 313 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:29,000 I didn't know what to do. 314 00:21:30,166 --> 00:21:32,734 [siren wailing] 315 00:21:32,734 --> 00:21:34,800 [Capt. Evans] They brought him down to the hospital, 316 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,634 so I walked into the emergency room 317 00:21:36,634 --> 00:21:39,467 and I met with the nurse and met with the doctor. 318 00:21:39,467 --> 00:21:43,700 They let me in the room where they were working on him, 319 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:50,734 and, you know, I just remember walking in and seeing Andy laying there. 320 00:21:50,734 --> 00:21:55,700 And his head was bandaged up and I could see one of his eyes, 321 00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:58,166 but I just remember looking at him and going, "Wake up." 322 00:21:58,166 --> 00:21:59,734 [machine beeps] 323 00:21:59,734 --> 00:22:02,433 And that's when I found out that he had been shot in the head. 324 00:22:03,467 --> 00:22:06,634 -[machine beeps] -They had him on a ventilator, 325 00:22:06,634 --> 00:22:10,967 and they said, "We're trying to track his brain activity." 326 00:22:10,967 --> 00:22:13,100 And everybody was frantically trying to do 327 00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:16,600 anything they could for him. 328 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,000 [machine beeps] 329 00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:23,867 And so I remember asking the doctor, 330 00:22:23,867 --> 00:22:28,066 "If he's shot in the head, I mean, is he gonna make it?" 331 00:22:41,867 --> 00:22:43,367 [Det. Kyle Pannell] When I first got the call, 332 00:22:44,533 --> 00:22:46,100 my Sergeant called me 333 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:47,700 and told me that there had been a shooting 334 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:50,367 at an apartment in Gardendale. 335 00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:56,533 When I arrived on the scene I entered the master bedroom. 336 00:22:57,533 --> 00:23:01,100 The walk-in closet is to your left, 337 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:03,967 and about middle-ways down the wall 338 00:23:03,967 --> 00:23:06,100 there's a door leading in to the bathroom. 339 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:09,166 There was a bloody handprint on the toilet. 340 00:23:11,533 --> 00:23:15,333 Inside the closet I could definitely see blood splatter. 341 00:23:16,734 --> 00:23:18,166 On one side of the wall 342 00:23:18,166 --> 00:23:21,266 there was a large pool of blood in the corner. 343 00:23:22,266 --> 00:23:25,266 At first glance at the blood splatter 344 00:23:25,266 --> 00:23:28,100 I could tell that it was not a long-range shot, 345 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:30,066 that it was fairly close. 346 00:23:31,467 --> 00:23:35,000 The gun was a nine millimeter Glock. 347 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,867 Fairly standard issue for law enforcement. 348 00:23:39,266 --> 00:23:42,634 A shell casing was right outside the door of the closet 349 00:23:42,634 --> 00:23:44,166 on the floor of the bedroom. 350 00:23:47,634 --> 00:23:51,967 Whoever fired the shot was standing in the doorway of the closet 351 00:23:51,967 --> 00:23:54,266 or very close to the doorway of the closet. 352 00:24:03,967 --> 00:24:05,000 After leaving the scene, 353 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,100 we returned to the police department. 354 00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:09,867 Stephanie had been placed in an interview room. 355 00:24:09,867 --> 00:24:11,533 We just kind of introduced ourself 356 00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:14,800 and she agreed to speak to us. 357 00:25:03,166 --> 00:25:04,634 [Pannell] Mmm. 358 00:25:24,533 --> 00:25:28,967 Stephanie told us that he'd accused her in the past of being unfaithful. 359 00:25:28,967 --> 00:25:32,867 So, according to Stephanie, you know, this argument 360 00:25:32,867 --> 00:25:36,000 wasn't, you know, wasn't out of the blue. 361 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,634 She was basically painting a picture of her 362 00:25:43,634 --> 00:25:46,634 being just an extremely calm, 363 00:25:46,634 --> 00:25:49,433 non-combative, non-argumentative person. 364 00:26:22,266 --> 00:26:23,634 [detective] 365 00:26:23,634 --> 00:26:25,967 [Stephanie] 366 00:26:38,166 --> 00:26:40,266 I've been in law enforcement for over 24 years. 367 00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:42,533 I've never seen a gun just go off. 368 00:26:46,166 --> 00:26:49,867 On a Glock the safety is actually on the trigger. 369 00:26:49,867 --> 00:26:54,166 So in order to disengage the safety you have to pull the trigger. 370 00:26:54,166 --> 00:26:58,000 So, you know, it was obvious that the trigger was pulled. 371 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,233 [detective] 372 00:27:29,634 --> 00:27:31,266 I know that if someone is trying 373 00:27:31,266 --> 00:27:34,266 to shove something at me that I don't want 374 00:27:34,266 --> 00:27:36,533 I'm not gonna reach for it, you know? 375 00:27:36,533 --> 00:27:39,634 I'm gonna back away or I'm gonna put my hands up. 376 00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:42,233 I'm not gonna grab it. 377 00:27:43,734 --> 00:27:48,800 The longer she talked, the more question marks and red flags kept popping up. 378 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:53,000 [Will McComb] Under her story, 379 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,467 they were both standing up, 380 00:27:54,467 --> 00:27:56,266 and Andy had the gun in his hands, 381 00:27:56,266 --> 00:27:59,800 and he shoves it into her hands when the gun went off. 382 00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:03,734 But the fatal wound, the only wound on Andy, 383 00:28:03,734 --> 00:28:05,867 was a bullet strike to his forehead 384 00:28:05,867 --> 00:28:07,166 just about the hairline. 385 00:28:23,166 --> 00:28:29,800 It just wasn't possible for a gun to go off at waist level 386 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,900 and the entry wound be basically on the top of the head. 387 00:28:34,533 --> 00:28:37,000 It just didn't make sense. 388 00:28:44,467 --> 00:28:45,433 So... 389 00:28:54,367 --> 00:28:56,166 [woman] Paging Dr. Line. Line. 390 00:28:56,166 --> 00:28:57,867 [Lindsey] When we got to the hospital 391 00:28:57,867 --> 00:29:02,066 one of the pastors that the police department uses was there. 392 00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:04,867 I don't even remember what he said 393 00:29:04,867 --> 00:29:06,533 but made mention of the coroner, 394 00:29:07,533 --> 00:29:08,800 [voice shaking] and that's... 395 00:29:10,467 --> 00:29:13,266 The moment that we learned he had died. 396 00:29:19,634 --> 00:29:22,266 And that's the moment that I learned 397 00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:24,800 that Stephanie had shot him. 398 00:29:27,166 --> 00:29:29,266 I just remember being in shock. 399 00:29:29,266 --> 00:29:33,000 This has to be an accident. This has to be, you know, what could have happened? 400 00:29:34,166 --> 00:29:36,166 Did she realize what she was doing? 401 00:29:36,166 --> 00:29:39,266 Did she, you know, was it an accident? 402 00:29:39,266 --> 00:29:44,266 Was it [stutters] I never, and even to this day, it's hard to wrap my mind 403 00:29:44,266 --> 00:29:48,634 that she possibly could have have a gun in her hand and fire it at him. 404 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:50,266 It's hard... 405 00:29:52,533 --> 00:29:54,000 To make sense of that. 406 00:30:22,867 --> 00:30:25,900 [Det. Pannell] I mainly kind of wanted to just gauge her reaction. 407 00:30:27,734 --> 00:30:30,000 And so, you know, in the interview 408 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000 you can see me just kind of laser-focused on her, really. 409 00:30:33,533 --> 00:30:36,000 She sounded upset 410 00:30:36,734 --> 00:30:39,266 but when she raised her head up 411 00:30:41,166 --> 00:30:42,533 she wasn't crying. 412 00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:44,734 [Stephanie sighs] 413 00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:56,166 You know, I looked directly into her eyes 414 00:30:56,166 --> 00:31:00,634 and they were dry as a bone. 415 00:31:00,634 --> 00:31:03,000 There was no tears in her eyes whatsoever. 416 00:31:07,734 --> 00:31:10,467 What really happened? What's really going on here? 417 00:31:10,467 --> 00:31:12,000 What Stephanie didn't know 418 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,100 was down the hall we had several witnesses 419 00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,433 that were present in the house that night. 420 00:31:32,734 --> 00:31:35,634 When I was told that, it changed everything. 421 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,734 Down the hall 422 00:31:48,734 --> 00:31:54,967 we had Stephanie's son and Andy's daughter. 423 00:32:00,634 --> 00:32:02,734 [Det. Pannell] Andy's daughter begins to talk, 424 00:32:02,734 --> 00:32:07,900 you know, and she kind of just starts describing what she's been through, 425 00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:11,734 and, you know, again, the loss of her mom at a young age 426 00:32:11,734 --> 00:32:13,900 and now the loss of her father. 427 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:19,867 It was very tough not to get emotional interviewing her. 428 00:32:29,367 --> 00:32:30,433 [Det. Pannell] Mmm-hmm. 429 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:35,634 -[Emma] -[Det. Pannell] 430 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,634 [Det. Pannell] According to what we were told, 431 00:32:56,634 --> 00:33:00,467 Stephanie was the physical abuser in the relationship. 432 00:33:00,467 --> 00:33:03,233 She was the verbal abuser in the relationship. 433 00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:07,867 That painted quite a different picture 434 00:33:07,867 --> 00:33:10,533 than what Stephanie was telling us. 435 00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:21,266 At one point in the evening, she had received a text from Andy saying, 436 00:33:21,266 --> 00:33:23,333 "Lock your doors. She's crazy." 437 00:33:28,734 --> 00:33:31,166 [Det. Pannell] Stephanie's son advised us 438 00:33:31,166 --> 00:33:32,800 that he was asleep the entire time 439 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,066 and he didn't hear anything. 440 00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:58,734 [Det. Pannell] Andy's daughter, 441 00:33:58,734 --> 00:34:02,000 she was a very important witness 442 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:09,266 because not only was she directly across the hallway from the incident, 443 00:34:09,266 --> 00:34:11,066 she was awake the entire time. 444 00:34:57,367 --> 00:35:01,367 When Andy's daughter made the comment to us it changed everything. 445 00:35:01,367 --> 00:35:05,000 I know in my mind this just changed 446 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,967 from an accident to a possible murder. 447 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:12,500 We went back down the hall 448 00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:14,367 and spoke with Stephanie again, 449 00:35:14,367 --> 00:35:16,233 and then we confronted her with that detail. 450 00:35:29,166 --> 00:35:30,266 [Det. Pannell] So you... 451 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:12,533 Her credibility, in my eyes, was over. It was done. 452 00:36:23,467 --> 00:36:26,700 [Will McComb] In the mugshot she's clearly injured. 453 00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:28,900 Defense attorneys and certainly members of the public, 454 00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:30,266 they get to see the mugshot, 455 00:36:30,266 --> 00:36:32,700 had some suspicions as to how she got her injuries 456 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:35,166 and then blaming the victim, Andy. 457 00:36:36,266 --> 00:36:38,266 Like this comment here, 458 00:36:38,266 --> 00:36:40,433 [Det. Pannell reading] 459 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,367 [Lindsey] It's extremely hard to read these comments. 460 00:36:51,367 --> 00:36:53,000 Just absolutely heartbreaking. 461 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,900 The first posts says, 462 00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:58,333 [Lindsey reading] 463 00:37:01,734 --> 00:37:04,634 Andy was never abusive to her. 464 00:37:04,634 --> 00:37:07,367 You want to scream it from the rooftops, 465 00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:11,166 but there are sone people that are gonna, you know, question the situation, 466 00:37:11,166 --> 00:37:14,634 and especially after seeing her booking photo. 467 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,800 This is a video that was taken from the jail surveillance footage 468 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:30,800 that shows Stephanie Keller whilst she is in custody and handcuffed. 469 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,634 This was taken a few hours before her mugshot. 470 00:37:34,634 --> 00:37:39,166 The video itself was interesting, to say the least. 471 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:46,634 And she, you know, essentially takes a step towards the vending machine... 472 00:37:54,467 --> 00:37:57,000 She nails the vending machine with her face. 473 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,233 It would seem to be a very intentional act. 474 00:38:04,266 --> 00:38:06,900 [Lindsey] It's very difficult to not be able to reach out to these people 475 00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:08,634 that are saying these horrible things, you know, 476 00:38:08,634 --> 00:38:12,533 and tell them "You're wrong. This is not how this is. 477 00:38:12,533 --> 00:38:14,433 This is a very different situation." 478 00:38:29,867 --> 00:38:32,166 When we went to the trial 479 00:38:32,166 --> 00:38:35,000 any doubt that I had that this was a horrible accident 480 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,967 just went away very quickly. 481 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,266 [voice shaking] It's hard to think 482 00:38:41,266 --> 00:38:45,000 that somebody that I let in my life and had a relationship with 483 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,734 is capable of something so horrible. 484 00:38:53,266 --> 00:38:56,233 [sniffs] It's a hard pill to swallow to think about that. 485 00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:00,367 [Will McComb] When Andy's daughter testified, 486 00:39:00,367 --> 00:39:06,000 her story was very impactful for the members of the court. 487 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,433 It was impactful for the jury. 488 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,600 The judge did come down for the sentence of 20 years 489 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,533 in the penitentiary for Stephanie Keller, 490 00:39:19,533 --> 00:39:23,500 and that was the maximum under provocation manslaughter. 491 00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:29,533 [Lindsey] I think that the sentence that she received was appropriate. 492 00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:34,433 I mean, you know, nothing is ever enough. It will never be enough. 493 00:39:37,266 --> 00:39:40,634 But it also won't change it, no matter what it is. 494 00:39:43,533 --> 00:39:45,734 [Capt. Evans] As a police officer, we're usually the ones 495 00:39:45,734 --> 00:39:48,734 that say, "Hey, here's how you handle this situation." 496 00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:52,367 And when we can't do that for ourselves 497 00:39:52,367 --> 00:39:55,533 we question ourselves as to whether we're a failure. 498 00:39:56,367 --> 00:39:59,800 And so we have to reach out for help 499 00:40:01,166 --> 00:40:04,066 just like everybody's reaching out for us to help. 500 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:11,600 Losing Andy had very much an emotional impact on the department. 501 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,233 Every member of the police department was at the funeral. 502 00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:18,166 [Lindsey] People came from everywhere, you know, 503 00:40:18,166 --> 00:40:21,433 and they just heard about it and wanted to come and show their respect. 504 00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,734 It makes you so proud to be driving down the road 505 00:40:25,734 --> 00:40:30,333 and seeing flags [voice shaking] that are, you know, for him. 506 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,800 It was definitely a moment to be proud of him. 507 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,867 I mean, I will always be proud of him. 508 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,734 He was a really great person, and... 509 00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:48,367 A great father. 510 00:40:48,367 --> 00:40:50,634 You know, I wanted to remember all the good things 511 00:40:50,634 --> 00:40:52,166 that he did as a police officer. 512 00:40:58,367 --> 00:41:01,734 Honestly, if I could say anything to her I would ask her, "Why?" 513 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,166 I think she's a horrible person. 514 00:41:10,533 --> 00:41:12,066 I think she... 515 00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:16,634 I... 516 00:41:18,266 --> 00:41:19,734 I don't even know if I should say this, 517 00:41:19,734 --> 00:41:22,100 but I think she is, 518 00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:24,900 this could happen again given the opportunity. 43909

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