All language subtitles for Married.to.Evil.S01E04.1080p.WEB.h264-CBFM

I open up Facebook
and my best friend Amanda
just got married.

[Vina Naugler] It was
almost like a secret,
hush-hush kind of thing.

You went off and got
married without me?

And I said, "What in the hell
is going on?"

He made us all feel
like he was going
to take care of her.

He made us all feel
like he was going
to take care of her.

It was literally
picture-perfect,

to the outside world.

[Naugler] Somebody was lurking
around her house.

[Carrie Tegeder] Something's
really wrong.

The hairs on my arms
are standing up.

The first thing
that thing that came
out of my mouth

was, like, "Pack your [bleep],
and get out of that house."

[Tegeder] Why couldn't I put
the pieces together?

Was I not intuitive enough?

[Naugler] I should have
done something.

I live a nightmare
from that day on.

A living, walking nightmare.

[interviewer speaking]

[Brae Perrault speaking]

Well, it goes to show you
that you don't know

Well, it goes to show you
that you don't know

what's going on behind
those closed doors.

[Brae speaking]

Amanda is a Fourth of July
when it came to personality.

Amanda is a Fourth of July
when it came to personality.

When you think
of Fourth of July,
you think of fun, having fun.

Amanda has a warmth
about her.

[Naugler] And that is
Amanda Pardue, age 35.

And the reason why
she's wearing scrubs is

'cause she's working
at the Hamilton female clinic.

[Tegeder] She was
the receptionist.

And she absolutely
loved it.

[Naugler] She loves
helping people, because that's
how Amanda was.

[Naugler] She loves
helping people, because that's
how Amanda was.

Amanda was like
a ball of sunshine.

And she would make you feel
like you were the best
person in the world.

She already had two children,
she had a boy and a girl.

She had already been divorced
for a couple of years
before I met her.

[Tegeder] The children
ended up going to live
with the grandparents.

[Tegeder] The children
ended up going to live
with the grandparents.

But her kids were doing great
and so she was still
really happy and upbeat

and optimistic
about the future.

[Naugler] Amanda was
a single female.

She was a beautiful girl,
so, yes, she dated.

At that time it
was the big rave

to go on the internet
to find somebody
that you can connect with.

to go on the internet
to find somebody
that you can connect with.

So she was going
on them sites.

[chuckles] She hit left.

And that's how she met
Seth Perrault,
through the internet.

[Tegeder] Well, he was
very handsome,
kind of dashing.

Had a little bit of money,
so that they could
do things and have fun.

[Naugler] He made
her feel wonderful, beautiful.

Before you knew it,
she was in love.

Before you knew it,
she was in love.

They're in love.

We were, like,
"Slow the roll, slow down."

But how can you tell
somebody when they're
in love to slow down?

Seth had this beautiful home.

The town was called
Social Circle,
here in Georgia.

But Amanda was looking
for love, not a home.

It wouldn't have mattered
if he lived in a mobile home,
or if he had that home.

She was in love with him.

She was in love with him.

They moved in together.

A little bit fast.

[chuckles] A little bit fast.

But wonderful.

I was so happy for her,
very happy.

[Naugler] I went, um,
and visited Amanda
to check out this guy,

'cause I wanna know
more about him.

And I interrogate people
and I interrogated him.

And that's how I found
out a lot of things.

Well, he couldn't tell me
how he made his money,
'cause he didn't have a job.

You got your beautiful home,
you've got your cars,
you got your motorcycles.

Without a job.

[laughing] How do you do that?
'Cause I would like to know,
'cause I wanna do that.

He didn't have no money,
said it was all
his father's money.

That's how they were living,
that's how they were eating.

I mean, who's almost 40
and has their parents
paying for everything?

I mean, who's almost 40
and has their parents
paying for everything?

[Naugler] Six months
after her and Seth
had moved in together,

knock, knock,
you have a little girl.

[Brae crying]

I get a phone call
from Amanda...
[chuckles softly]

It's funny now.

Um, saying he's got a kid!

And I'm thinking,
"Where in the hell
did this baby come from?"

[Tegeder] It was a surprise
that Seth had a daughter.

Her name was Brae.

Seth had this ex-girlfriend
and they ended up
having a baby.

I know that Amanda
was oddly cool about it,
um... [laughing]

She's a better person
than I am, I would
have had questions.

She's a better person
than I am, I would
have had questions.

[Naugler] She opened her arms
and took that child in.

Amanda fell in love with her.

No qualms, no nothing.

She took that child in
and it was her own.

I open up my phone
and I look on Facebook

and my best friend
of 38 years
just got married.

[Naugler] The only people
who were at the wedding

was Seth, Amanda,
her daughter, her son
and Brae, that's it.

It was almost like a secret
hush-hush kind of thing.

I said, "You went
off and got married
without me?"

I said, "You went
off and got married
without me?"

Oh, Vina, it was so rush,
rush, rush.

He wouldn't let me
get my hair done,

he wouldn't let me do this,
he wouldn't allow me
to do that.

I said, "What in the hell
is going on?"

If you are so much
in love with somebody,

would you not give
them the wedding?

Would you not want
her sisters there
and her best friend

and her to be so happy?

That tells you,
it was a business.

He wanted Amanda
for a certain reason.

He wanted Amanda
for a certain reason.

I told her it was
a very bad idea
to stop working.

You always have to have
your own little money.

But what I got from Amanda
is that Seth wanted her home
to be a housewife.

That was his way
of controlling her,
financial control.

By telling her how much
she can spend,
what she can spend.

Why? He's got her life
in his hands.

Why? He's got her life
in his hands.

And he knows it.

[chuckles] One day,
I get a phone call
from Amanda,

saying that, "My husband's
gonna join the police force."

I said, "What?"

You go from not
having a job
to becoming a police officer?

And in Georgia,
that is a lot of weight.

You're a good old
Southern boy
that's a cop.

But she was so proud
that he did it.

You have pictures
of him getting his badge.

And she's standing
right next to him

and they're all beaming
with pride.

The idea of Seth
becoming a police officer

was mind-boggling to me.

was mind-boggling to me.

I think that he specifically
chose being a police officer

for his ego, so that he
could have more control
even more than he already had.

When Seth wants something,
Seth gets it.

For him, that uniform meant,
"I'm better than you
and now I can prove it.

I am above the law,
'cause I am the law."

I am a real estate broker.

Amanda had reached
out to me and asked me
to help Seth's father

with selling the house
at Social Circle.

So I had a friend,
at the time,

and I said, "Let's
make a road trip
out of it.

and I said, "Let's
make a road trip
out of it.

Let's go visit
my friend Amanda."

And Amanda was just
so happy to see me.

We walked through the house
and she's so proud
of the decor.

But all of a sudden,
Seth walks in

and I look over at Amanda
and she's, like, ghost white.

Her entire demeanor changed.

Her entire demeanor changed.

Once we got into the car,
my friend said,

"Carrie, something's
really wrong."

And she said, "Look,"
she said, "The hairs
on my arms are standing up."

She said, "Carrie,
don't be surprised...

...if he kills her."

I was, like,
"You are insane."

I was so confused,
because Amanda had

what she'd always wanted.

She had the house,
she had Brae
to take care of.

She's living her best life.

I didn't want to hear
what my friend was
trying to articulate to me,

that Amanda was in danger.

I wasn't ready to hear it.

I wasn't ready to hear it.

[Naugler] They had
lake access,
they had golf carts.

Um, very safe neighborhood.

It's a perfect neighborhood
to raise your family there.

When they first
moved in there,
everything was hunky-dory.

When they first
moved in there,
everything was hunky-dory.

And the neighbors thought
Seth was a nice gentleman.

They felt a little bit more
secure because he was
a police officer.

He was the law.

Life looked perfect,
it was literally
picture-perfect.

Um, to the outside world.

Amanda always
made it out to be
that everything was fine.

Amanda always
made it out to be
that everything was fine.

Everything's great.

So I started feeling
a little bit better, uh,
a little bit more comfortable,

until the texts
started coming.

Amanda finally started
bringing me in a little bit

about some things
that were going on with her.

Seth would call her fat.

And would just demean her
and call her really
ugly names.

And would just demean her
and call her really
ugly names.

That's, like, the beginning,
but them little things
escalate.

And before you know it,
he's pushing you around,
grabbing ahold of you.

For him, it's
like a power trip.

They're trying to mentally
break you down.

They began to fight.

So what Amanda did
was went to the next door
neighbor's bushes.

So what Amanda did
was went to the next door
neighbor's bushes.

She hid in their bushes,
so he wouldn't see her.

And Seth automatically
assumed that she went
to the neighbor's house.

And he literally barges
in the door of this neighbor

and he's going
through their house

and they're just, like,
in shock and they're, like,
"What are you doing here?"

and they're just, like,
in shock and they're, like,
"What are you doing here?"

"I'm looking for my wife,
where's she at?
I know she's here."

And they're, like,
"No, no, she's not here,
get out of our house.

We're gonna call the police."

And he says,
"I am the police."

To me, that shows me
that he's not
a real police officer,

he's more of a wolf
in sheep's clothing.

These were strangers.

And if he could treat
complete strangers like that,

I thought, "What must Amanda
have been going through
all alone?"

I stopped receiving
phone calls.

I stopped getting messages.

All of that went away.

All of that went away.

[Naugler] She'd be calling me
through the iPad or Messenger,
Facebook Messenger thing.

Amanda did not have
a cell phone.

I believe the reason
why she did not
have a cell phone

was that he could keep
tabs on her all the time.

Seth had completely
controlled the money,

because Amanda
didn't have any.

[Tegeder] Amanda couldn't
even buy feminine products.

[Tegeder] Amanda couldn't
even buy feminine products.

Her basic needs were
not even being met.

[Naugler] We successfully got
her to leave a couple times.

She would leave
and he'd be on the phone

trying to get her back
before she could get
out of the driveway.

[Tegeder] He finds
her kryptonite
and her kryptonite is,

"If you don't come back,
who knows what's gonna
happen to Brae?"

[Naugler] Seth would call,
make that phone call,
and she would go home.

That little girl is what
kept her in that house.

Because she considered
that little girl her own child

and she was not going
to leave her.

My birthday's on June 6th,
Amanda always would call me.

My birthday's on June 6th,
Amanda always would call me.

I getting a little confused,
because Amanda wasn't
calling me

for my birthday
like she always does
and we Zoom.

So I would physically see her.

Well, she wouldn't Zoom me,
she would just call me.

And I said, "No, I wanna Zoom,
I wanna see your face,
I wanna see you."

And she's, like,
"No, no, no, no, no."

And I'm thinking to myself,
"Mmm, something's not right."

I had my phone in my hand,
so I quickly hit that button
for a Zoom,

I had my phone in my hand,
so I quickly hit that button
for a Zoom,

to where we could
be on camera.

And I took that picture
within seconds.

Picture I took of Amanda,
it scared me.

So I took the picture,
um, I don't know,
so I could show her one day.

So she could see it, you know.

Like, this is what
he does to you.

You can see where her jaw
is all swollen.

And I asked her,
"What's going on here?"

Well, she told me
really what happened.

He turned around
and jacked her
right in the jaw.

Just punched her like a man.

Just punched her like a man.

He almost broke her jaw,
that's how hard he hit her.

Then another
occurrence happened.

These are the pictures
that she took of herself.

Looks like he punched
her in the face.

Her eye's all swollen.

It just makes me angry.

Just anger.

[sighs] After that picture
was taken, life got
a hell of a lot worse.

[sighs] After that picture
was taken, life got
a hell of a lot worse.

Everything escalated.

[Tegeder] Some days later,
I get this

really alarming,
cryptic text from Amanda.

[Tegeder reading]

And then she says...

[Tegeder reading]

You know, she's scared,
she can't do anything

without him seeing
what she's doing.

And then Amanda says...

[Tegeder reading]

Amanda was leaving
bread crumbs with me,

Amanda was leaving
bread crumbs with me,

because she trusted
that I would be able

to communicate
if something ever
happened to her.

I had the bread crumb,
why couldn't I put
the pieces together?

Was I not intuitive enough?

I feel guilty that I could
have done more
or should have done more.

[Naugler] One night,
I get a phone call
from Amanda.

This is probably,
I don't know, 9:30, 10:00?

Saying that somebody
was lurking around her house.

She saw somebody walking.

She didn't see who it was,
it was a shadow.

She could tell
that it was a man
that walked by the window.

It scared the crap
out of her.

I said, "Well,
did you call 911?"

She goes, "No, I called Seth
and Seth told me
not to call the cops."

He said he's gonna
take care of it
when he gets home.

He told Amanda,
"Do not call the police,
don't get them involved."

The second time it happened,
again I thought,

"It's gotta be one
of these hoodlums

that are around
the neighborhood trying

to break into people's cars
or something."

[door handle wiggles]

[door handle wiggles]

[Naugler] And then,
the basement door,

somebody was trying
to get in it.

She's got a child at home,
by herself, somebody's
wiggling the door.

She's scared,
she calls her husband.

He tells her, "Calm down,
I'll take care of it."

That's when I knew
something wasn't right.

He's a cop, somebody's trying
to break into your house.

Where's your security?
Where's your lights?

Where's your security?
Where's your lights?

They only occurred
when Seth was on night shift.

It never occurred any time
when Seth was actually home.

[Tegeder] So we had
the suspicion all of this
burglary nonsense

was purely Seth playing
games with Amanda,

terrorizing her and just
control over her
and making her feel fear.

[Naugler] On January 28th
of 2020, I got a Zoom call
from Amanda.

She was in the bedroom
with Brae and she was
crying hysterically.

I knew something was going on.

She's Zooming me.

So I'm getting an actual view
of Amanda when it
actually went down.

Seth grabbed ahold of her
and pulled her out
of the house.

And you can hear Brae
in the background,

"Mommy, are you okay?
Mommy, are you okay?"

First thing come out
of my mouth is,
"Hang the phone up, call 911."

Amanda finally gets help
from someone outside.

Amanda finally gets help
from someone outside.

The neighbors provided Amanda
with a safe place
and police are called.

[phone ringing]

[operator speaking]

[Amanda speaking]

[operator speaking]

[Amanda speaking]

[operator speaking]

[Amanda speaking]

[operator speaking]

[Amanda speaking]

[operator speaking]

[Amanda speaking]

[operator speaking]

[Amanda speaking]

[operator speaking]

[siren wails]

Seth Perrault's wife reported
that she'd been assaulted
by Seth.

The deputies responded.

The deputies responded.

She had some reddish marks
around her neck area
her chest area, right in here.

He'd basically battered her
in that way and thrown
her out of the home.

They, in turn, uh,
talked to the daughter.

She ran and hid in the closet
while this happened.

That wasn't the first time
she hid in the closet,

that she tried to intervene
to help Amanda.

that she tried to intervene
to help Amanda.

[interviewer]

[Brae]

[interviewer]

[Brae]

And Brae says, you know,

"My daddy hit my mommy
and pushed her out the door."

[interviewer]

[Brae]

[Naugler] The cops put him
in handcuffs and take him
out of the house.

[Sills] As they, um, were
getting ready to put him

in the patrol car, uh,
and take him to jail,

he said to her,
"I got you now."

[Naugler] And Amanda's
telling me,

"They're taking him to jail,
they're taking him to jail."

The first thing that come
out of my mouth was, like,

"Pack your [bleep]
and get out of that house."

You don't get it,
he's going to lose
his job over this.

He's going to kill you,
Amanda.

The next day,
[sighs in exasperation]
she goes to the court.

[Sills] The judge considered
that Seth had to stay away
from his wife

as a condition of bond
while this matter was pending.

But Amanda actually said
she did not want
that to occur.

But Amanda actually said
she did not want
that to occur.

Now she was distraught,
I could tell.

The judge was very adamant,
asking her, "Was she sure?"

She didn't want
a stay away order in place

and she answered
that she was sure.

Her response was,
"Well, he doesn't have
anywhere else to go."

[Tegeder] Of course he had
somewhere to go.

He has family,
he had plenty
of places to go.

He's sitting
in that jail cell,

He's sitting
in that jail cell,

his world is crumbling
around him

and Seth used
Amanda's love for Brae.

Amanda's worst fear was
would he hurt Brae?

He verbalizes that to Amanda.

I can only imagine
that she felt defeated.

So that was Amanda's
attempt at trying
to show Seth,

So that was Amanda's
attempt at trying
to show Seth,

"I can fix this.
I can fix it."

And Amanda knows
a restraining order
won't stop Seth.

[Naugler] And Amanda went
to that judge and told
that judge he can come home.

I was sick to my stomach.

When she did that,
that judge signed
her death warrant.

[Naugler] In his eyes,
Amanda had ruined his life
and that was it.

[Sills] Not only was Seth
getting ready to lose his job
as a police officer,

he was looking
at losing custody
of his child too.

He sat there
in that house with her
for six days.

I remember being
on the phone calls
with her,

I remember being
on the phone calls
with her,

I'm talking to her, saying,
"Are you okay, Amanda?"

How is the situation?
How is he acting?

And he was acting so nice
it was disgusting.

I was, like, "You need
to get out of that house,
Amanda.

You need to get out
of that house."

That day in February,
I pulled up
to Long Island Drive

with my subpoena
for Mr. Perrault.

When I got to his place, uh,
he had, uh, one of those
video doorbells.

And I pushed the button
and waited.

And I heard heavy footfalls
inside the house.

And I assumed
that it was somebody
running to the door.

And I assumed
that it was somebody
running to the door.

The footfalls moved
from one side of the house

kind of toward the front door,
but not to the front door.

And the footfalls retreated.

And I rang the doorbell again.

I was there
for about seven minutes.

I was, like, "Come on,
man, answer the door."

The man would have
known what it was.

And finally, I gave up.

And finally, I gave up.

So I drive away
from the Perrault's house

and I go on
about my patrolling.

I make it three or four,
five miles away.

And I get a call
from my shift supervisor

And I get a call
from my shift supervisor

requiring me to return
to the Perrault house,

because of a reported
incident.

[siren blaring]

[Abernathy] I go quickly.

Seth Perrault comes out
the front door of the house.

He was holding his cell phone
and he was blubbering.

He was inconsolable.

He said that Amanda was dead.

He said that Amanda was dead.

I get a personal call, uh,
from the chief of police.

He's got Seth Perrault
on the phone

and Seth has told him
that his wife had
committed suicide.

We drove as fast as we could,
you know, lights
and sirens on.

I arrive on the scene.

Seth was sitting on the steps,
holding his hands
over his eyes.

Seth was sitting on the steps,
holding his hands
over his eyes.

I, uh, walked in the house
and I entered the bedroom.

And I saw the body
of the deceased.

It was Amanda Perrault.

And I could see
a gunshot wound
to her head.

This is Amanda's body.

And the first thing you see
in the bottom right hand
corner there, below her feet,

And the first thing you see
in the bottom right hand
corner there, below her feet,

is the pistol itself.

You see her body
with her legs together,

she's flat on her back,
arms are pulled completely
against her side.

And on her right side,
maybe four or five inches
from her right hand,

is the magazine to the pistol.

Well, you know, I'm a graduate
of the FBI National Academy
and I've got a college degree.

But you know what?

Anybody could tell
that scene wasn't right.

[Abernathy] The sheriff
had asked Perrault

if he would ride with me
to the sheriff's office.

He was not under arrest.

I realized just
how clean he was.

The man had
no blood on him.

Law enforcement officers
are trained first responders.

The first responders
try to stop the blood
from coming out.

You don't walk away
from scenes like that clean.

He just kept talking
and blubbering.

He reiterated that his wife
had committed suicide.

But when we got closer
to the sheriff's office,

he begged me to pull
the car over and shoot him
in the head.

It was unsettling.

It made the little short hairs
come up on your neck.

Because it wasn't right.

Because it wasn't right.

Perhaps his wife hadn't
killed herself.

And so we went back
to my office

and I interviewed him
about what had
occurred that day.

[Seth speaking]

[Seth speaking]

[Sills] Of all the times
I've ever questioned anybody,

I've never heard anyone use
the term executed.

[Seth speaking]

That's not a usual,
uh, term to use,

uh, when making reference
to a suicide.

[Seth speaking]

[Sills speaking]

[Seth speaking]

The only thing he wanted
to tell me was

that my deputies shouldn't
have arrested him
on January the 28th

and what a great
police officer he was.

[Seth speaking]

[Sills speaking]

[Seth speaking]

[Sills speaking]

It was a very
bizarre interview,
uh, it really was.

It was a very
bizarre interview,
uh, it really was.

[Naugler] I kept on getting
a Facebook phone call.

And I'm thinking,
"Who in the hell
is calling my phone

at 10:00 at night
through Facebook?"

And it was Amanda's cousin.

And the first thing he said,
"Did you speak
to Amanda today?"

I knew it.

I said, "He killed her.
He killed her."

And that's how I found
out my best friend died.

[Sills] Well, I knew
he was guilty,
but what I wanted was

more evidence before
I actually, uh,
made an arrest.

So I let him go that day.

[Tegeder] We already knew
that he killed her.

We knew it wasn't a suicide.

We knew it wasn't a suicide.

And knowing
that he was let go

and back out on the streets
was devastating.

And then I lived a nightmare
from that day on.

A living, walking nightmare.

[Sills] I went back
out to the scene.

I laid down on the bed myself
to show the district attorney

the position the body
had been in.

You mean to tell me
that she shot herself

and then she laid supine
and pulled her legs together,
completely together,

pulled her arms
against her body,

took the magazine
out of the gun,

took the magazine
out of the gun,

after she shot herself?

Dead people don't remove
magazines out of guns.

You know, it was just
evidence of guilt
in my opinion.

[siren blaring]

[Sills] I decided to obtain
an arrest warrant
and go arrest him.

When I went
to his sister's home,
where I knew he was staying,

when I pulled up in the yard
to get out of the car,

when I pulled up in the yard
to get out of the car,

he's sitting on the porch,
talking to his attorney.

During the trial,
I testified in court.

It was absolutely
obvious to me

that Amanda Perrault
could not have shot herself.

And somebody absolutely
had to have taken the magazine

from that pistol,
moved that pistol
to the location it was

and had to have
moved that body.

Throughout the trial,
at any time I looked at him,

I never saw Seth express
any remorse
or anything of that.

He was pretty much, uh,
stoic and often looked
at the table itself,

He was pretty much, uh,
stoic and often looked
at the table itself,

not even in the direction
of the witnesses or anything.

One of the most damaging
pieces of evidence
against Seth

uh, was when his daughter
said that Amanda had told her

that if, uh, Seth lost custody
of Brae because
of that arrest,

that, uh, Seth was going
to shoot her dead
is what the child said.

that, uh, Seth was going
to shoot her dead
is what the child said.

Well, he was
convicted of murder.

And when the jury returned
the guilty verdict,

Judge Trammell, our chief
Superior Court judge,

promptly sentenced him
to life without parole.

Well, it goes to show you
that you don't know

what's going on behind
those closed doors.

The facade of what you see
on the outside

is not indicative
of what's going on
on the inside.

Very sad, sad situation.

[Tegeder] Right now
what's important is
that Amanda's story is out.

But it hurts a lot.

It's tremendous
amount of guilt

It's tremendous
amount of guilt

and pain and sadness.

She was my life,
so, yeah, I'll go to my grave

thinking I should
have done something.

I should have just got
in my car, or got
on a damn plane.

And just pulled her
out of that house. [sniffs]

But I didn't.

I gotta look up to the sky
to talk to my best friend,

because I did not
take the initiative.

So, yeah.

Go find out what's going on,
do something.

Just do something.

[Tegeder] I do take solace
in that I kept the messages.

[Tegeder] I do take solace
in that I kept the messages.

When I spoke with my friend,
she'd say, "You will always
have my back

and I love you
so much for that."

My thoughts and prayers
are with you in these days,
months and years ahead.

That was Amanda.