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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,066 --> 00:00:06,600 [Jessica] I lived in this fairytale 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,166 that I needed a man that would rescue me. 3 00:00:11,734 --> 00:00:13,266 He made me feel safe. 4 00:00:13,266 --> 00:00:14,800 He made me feel secure. 5 00:00:20,367 --> 00:00:22,500 But my station in life 6 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:26,066 was to be a housewife, 7 00:00:26,367 --> 00:00:27,367 a mother, 8 00:00:27,867 --> 00:00:29,433 and a maid. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,367 I've said, "God, if you could... 10 00:00:35,367 --> 00:00:37,600 make a way for me to escape right now, 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,634 I'll never look back. 12 00:00:38,634 --> 00:00:39,900 I swear to you." 13 00:00:48,533 --> 00:00:50,634 He forced the gun into my mouth. 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,266 And he got really close to me, 15 00:00:53,266 --> 00:00:55,166 his mouth to my ear, 16 00:00:56,533 --> 00:00:57,700 and he said, 17 00:00:57,700 --> 00:01:00,000 "Do you see the evil in my eyes?" 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,166 "Do you see the evil in my eyes?" 19 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:09,233 [Stacy] I said, "Put the gun down, what are you doing?" 20 00:01:13,467 --> 00:01:14,533 I'm sorry. 21 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:16,266 [Jessica] I was his wife. 22 00:01:16,266 --> 00:01:18,266 I never realized that he, 23 00:01:18,266 --> 00:01:21,467 even as evil and as vile as he is, 24 00:01:22,266 --> 00:01:23,900 that he would go that far. 25 00:01:38,367 --> 00:01:40,533 I grew up in a small town. 26 00:01:40,533 --> 00:01:43,233 in rural southern Mississippi. 27 00:01:43,734 --> 00:01:45,634 Almost like a one-horse town, 28 00:01:45,634 --> 00:01:47,700 everybody knew everybody. 29 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:50,166 I did things, small things like sneaking out, 30 00:01:50,166 --> 00:01:51,266 underage drinking. 31 00:01:51,266 --> 00:01:54,533 And that environment is where I met Chad. 32 00:01:56,734 --> 00:01:58,700 When I first met him, 33 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:00,000 the first thing that I noticed about him 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,066 the first thing that I noticed about him 35 00:02:02,066 --> 00:02:04,800 was his outgoing personality. 36 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:09,066 For lack of a better word, he was very hyperactive. 37 00:02:09,066 --> 00:02:11,600 Very, "Go, go, go. Let's do." 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,066 And he was also very attractive. 39 00:02:15,166 --> 00:02:18,000 I was very young and naive 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,634 and lived in this fairy tale 41 00:02:19,634 --> 00:02:23,867 that I needed a man that would rescue me 42 00:02:23,867 --> 00:02:25,634 and take care of me. 43 00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:29,467 Chad gave me all those things. 44 00:02:29,467 --> 00:02:30,000 He made me feel safe, he made me feel secure. 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,166 He made me feel safe, he made me feel secure. 46 00:02:41,634 --> 00:02:44,367 Our relationship moved so fast. 47 00:02:45,266 --> 00:02:48,367 I was barely 17 and he was 24. 48 00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:51,100 The day that I found out 49 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:53,500 that I was pregnant with Scott 50 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:57,100 was very scary for me. 51 00:02:58,166 --> 00:02:59,867 I knew, even as a teenager, 52 00:02:59,867 --> 00:03:00,000 that this was a lot, and a huge step, 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,500 that this was a lot, and a huge step, 54 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:05,166 and I was gonna have to grow up really fast. 55 00:03:06,533 --> 00:03:09,100 The day that I told Chad that I was pregnant, 56 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:11,100 he acted ecstatic. 57 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:12,367 He was happy. 58 00:03:13,867 --> 00:03:17,533 Just a normal, I guess, soon-to-be dad. 59 00:03:19,166 --> 00:03:22,066 He started being more aggressive 60 00:03:22,066 --> 00:03:25,800 in his plans to find us a home to live in. 61 00:03:27,266 --> 00:03:29,734 I thought that that would give us time to just 62 00:03:29,734 --> 00:03:30,000 really become the family 63 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,533 really become the family 64 00:03:33,367 --> 00:03:36,433 that I thought that we could be. 65 00:03:40,533 --> 00:03:44,600 We ended up renting a home 66 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,166 from his older brother 67 00:03:47,700 --> 00:03:49,233 in the middle of nowhere, 68 00:03:49,734 --> 00:03:51,967 down a long, dirt country road 69 00:03:51,967 --> 00:03:53,433 in the middle of the woods. 70 00:03:58,066 --> 00:04:00,000 For the first few weeks, 71 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,166 For the first few weeks, 72 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:01,867 we just lived together 73 00:04:01,867 --> 00:04:04,900 trying to figure out what we were to each other. 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,100 We would have bonfires and... 75 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:12,700 we would go fishing and just... 76 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:14,734 just the country way of living, 77 00:04:14,734 --> 00:04:16,100 it was really what it was. 78 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,600 At that time, 79 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,100 Chad was an attractive guy 80 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:23,533 that was fun to be around. 81 00:04:31,166 --> 00:04:33,333 Early on in my pregnancy, 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,734 there was a shift 83 00:04:35,734 --> 00:04:39,000 in the way Chad treated me. 84 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,233 He started isolating me more. 85 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,367 He slowly alienated me from family. 86 00:04:49,367 --> 00:04:54,467 Being an outdoorsy, tomboy country girl, 87 00:04:54,467 --> 00:04:56,333 I had a lot of male friends. 88 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,867 If I was allowed to be around them, 89 00:04:58,867 --> 00:05:00,000 he had to be in my presence. 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,367 he had to be in my presence. 91 00:05:00,367 --> 00:05:03,166 And it was very few and far between. 92 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:08,367 And his jealousy towards those male friends 93 00:05:08,367 --> 00:05:10,900 fractured a lot of those friendships for a long time. 94 00:05:18,367 --> 00:05:20,367 Chad paved highways 95 00:05:20,367 --> 00:05:23,233 all across the southern part of Mississippi. 96 00:05:24,367 --> 00:05:28,734 He sometimes would be gone five days a week. 97 00:05:28,734 --> 00:05:30,000 I mainly would see him on the weekends. 98 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,066 I mainly would see him on the weekends. 99 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:36,533 While he was gone, I was still isolated 100 00:05:37,266 --> 00:05:39,166 in the home that we lived in. 101 00:05:39,500 --> 00:05:41,000 He made sure of that 102 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,066 because he would unplug the landline 103 00:05:43,066 --> 00:05:45,100 and take it with him to work. 104 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:48,266 He would also take the only vehicle that we had 105 00:05:48,266 --> 00:05:50,367 and the cell phone with him. 106 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:52,634 I was pregnant. 107 00:05:52,634 --> 00:05:55,734 I was terrified to be alone there 108 00:05:55,734 --> 00:05:57,333 in the middle of nowhere 109 00:05:58,166 --> 00:05:59,867 without a way to go 110 00:05:59,867 --> 00:06:00,000 or a way to communicate with anyone. 111 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,900 or a way to communicate with anyone. 112 00:06:06,367 --> 00:06:07,867 One day he came home 113 00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:10,467 that weekend from working out of town. 114 00:06:10,467 --> 00:06:12,166 Immediately jumps in the shower. 115 00:06:13,266 --> 00:06:15,367 You know, that was an immediate red flag for me. 116 00:06:15,367 --> 00:06:19,634 It's like, "Why before he even touches me does he have to get in the shower?" 117 00:06:23,166 --> 00:06:26,600 And then I just decided to go through the cell phone. 118 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,000 And I noticed there was incoming and outgoing calls 119 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:30,166 And I noticed there was incoming and outgoing calls 120 00:06:30,166 --> 00:06:32,700 to this same number that wasn't saved in his phone 121 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:37,266 and the was talking to for an hour or two at a time. 122 00:06:37,266 --> 00:06:39,634 So, I ended up writing down that phone number 123 00:06:39,634 --> 00:06:42,467 and then calling from the house phone. 124 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,500 And the lady informed me that 125 00:06:48,500 --> 00:06:51,266 they had been having an affair for about six months. 126 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:02,000 I always had 127 00:07:02,867 --> 00:07:04,634 problems with self-esteem 128 00:07:05,266 --> 00:07:06,634 from a very early age. 129 00:07:08,867 --> 00:07:11,467 With Chad and with a lot of abusers, 130 00:07:11,467 --> 00:07:16,000 what they do is they break down your self-esteem, 131 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,967 your self-confidence, 132 00:07:17,967 --> 00:07:20,867 and make you feel like there's no way 133 00:07:20,867 --> 00:07:22,734 that you could survive without them. 134 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,967 I'm not sure 135 00:07:29,967 --> 00:07:30,000 when his interest in the military started. 136 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,166 when his interest in the military started. 137 00:07:33,166 --> 00:07:37,000 He had a almost unnatural obsession 138 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,100 with firearms. 139 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:40,700 And I think that probably played a big role 140 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:44,367 in him originally joining the National Guard. 141 00:07:45,166 --> 00:07:48,166 Where I grew up in in rural Mississippi, 142 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:50,266 it is not uncommon 143 00:07:50,266 --> 00:07:53,634 for everyone to own firearms. 144 00:07:55,266 --> 00:07:56,600 But what was unusual 145 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,700 with Chad's interest with firearms 146 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:00,000 is that it went a little bit beyond that. 147 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:00,734 is that it went a little bit beyond that. 148 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:04,166 He had up to 20 firearms 149 00:08:04,166 --> 00:08:07,900 including assault rifles and handguns. 150 00:08:09,100 --> 00:08:12,266 He had an AR-15, 151 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,266 he had an AK-47, 152 00:08:15,867 --> 00:08:18,000 he had a 12-gauge shotgun, 153 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,166 .45 caliber handgun, 154 00:08:20,967 --> 00:08:22,600 357 Magnum, 155 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,367 and a 38 Special. 156 00:08:25,367 --> 00:08:27,100 That's the ones that I remember. 157 00:08:27,100 --> 00:08:29,166 It was less about owning the firearms 158 00:08:29,166 --> 00:08:30,000 than the comments that he made 159 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,533 than the comments that he made 160 00:08:30,533 --> 00:08:32,500 regarding those firearms. 161 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:34,734 The need to stockpile weapons 162 00:08:34,734 --> 00:08:36,867 in case if there was ever an instance 163 00:08:36,867 --> 00:08:38,467 where he needs to be in a militia 164 00:08:38,467 --> 00:08:40,233 or to overthrow the government. 165 00:08:40,867 --> 00:08:42,367 When I was with him, I was... 166 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:46,367 17 to 21 years old. 167 00:08:46,367 --> 00:08:48,000 It was very terrifying to me. 168 00:08:55,467 --> 00:08:57,367 There was an instance 169 00:08:57,367 --> 00:09:00,000 where we were driving down a back road 170 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,533 where we were driving down a back road 171 00:09:01,533 --> 00:09:03,166 in the middle of the woods. 172 00:09:03,166 --> 00:09:05,467 I remember it being a really hot day. 173 00:09:05,467 --> 00:09:07,467 In my area, there's a lot of strays 174 00:09:07,467 --> 00:09:10,266 and stuff that get dumped in the country. 175 00:09:10,266 --> 00:09:14,367 And a dog was just walking down the side of the road. 176 00:09:14,367 --> 00:09:16,467 And Chad stopped all of a sudden 177 00:09:16,467 --> 00:09:19,900 and he called the dog to the driver door. 178 00:09:21,867 --> 00:09:24,000 And the dog was happy to see him, 179 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,734 wagging its tail. 180 00:09:25,734 --> 00:09:26,900 [dog whimpers] 181 00:09:27,467 --> 00:09:30,000 And he grabbed 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,266 And he grabbed 183 00:09:30,266 --> 00:09:33,600 his .45 caliber handgun 184 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,066 out from underneath the seat. 185 00:09:35,734 --> 00:09:37,266 And he was saying, 186 00:09:37,266 --> 00:09:39,166 "Come here, poochie, come here." 187 00:09:39,166 --> 00:09:41,266 Then the dog kinda put its front paws 188 00:09:41,266 --> 00:09:42,500 on the side of our vehicle. 189 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:45,166 And at that point, he just... 190 00:09:45,166 --> 00:09:46,100 -[gunshots] -[dog cries] 191 00:09:46,100 --> 00:09:47,433 ...shot the dog in the head. 192 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:57,634 To see someone be so evil towards animals 193 00:09:57,634 --> 00:10:00,000 was something I had never witnessed before in my life. 194 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,166 was something I had never witnessed before in my life. 195 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:01,600 And it traumatized me. 196 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,467 It scared me. 197 00:10:03,467 --> 00:10:06,867 And I think it was to let me know 198 00:10:06,867 --> 00:10:10,800 that he's capable of doing some pretty horrible things 199 00:10:11,266 --> 00:10:12,433 if I didn't get in line. 200 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,734 [Jessica] Chad was extremely peculiar 201 00:10:27,734 --> 00:10:31,266 about the way the house was supposed to be. 202 00:10:31,266 --> 00:10:34,533 He made it obviously clear that... 203 00:10:35,634 --> 00:10:37,533 what my station in life was. 204 00:10:37,533 --> 00:10:40,533 To be a housewife, 205 00:10:40,533 --> 00:10:43,000 a mother and a maid. 206 00:10:44,166 --> 00:10:45,867 It was compulsive, 207 00:10:45,867 --> 00:10:45,906 it was obsessive. 208 00:10:45,906 --> 00:10:47,166 it was obsessive. 209 00:10:47,166 --> 00:10:51,100 He would want things lined up a certain way. 210 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:53,533 All of the vegetables in the cabinets, 211 00:10:53,533 --> 00:10:55,166 they all had to be grouped together, 212 00:10:55,166 --> 00:10:57,734 the corn together, green beans together, 213 00:10:57,734 --> 00:11:00,734 all the labels facing a certain way. 214 00:11:00,734 --> 00:11:04,734 It all had to be lined in a uniform, straight manner. 215 00:11:04,734 --> 00:11:07,533 Usually, when I knew that he was heading in 216 00:11:07,533 --> 00:11:08,800 for the weekend, 217 00:11:10,734 --> 00:11:13,100 I would spend that whole day before 218 00:11:14,533 --> 00:11:15,906 scrubbing with Q-tips, toothbrushes, 219 00:11:15,906 --> 00:11:17,166 scrubbing with Q-tips, toothbrushes, 220 00:11:17,166 --> 00:11:19,233 just getting everything right. 221 00:11:22,634 --> 00:11:25,100 But in those occasions when something slacked, 222 00:11:25,533 --> 00:11:26,800 I paid for it. 223 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,467 Dirt on the floor 224 00:11:32,467 --> 00:11:34,734 could cause him to empty out 225 00:11:34,734 --> 00:11:36,266 and dump out dressers 226 00:11:36,266 --> 00:11:38,900 and tear clothes out of closets 227 00:11:38,900 --> 00:11:41,000 and flip mattresses off of beds. 228 00:11:41,634 --> 00:11:44,367 Swipe clean dishes off surfaces. 229 00:11:47,266 --> 00:11:50,266 There was instances where he would... 230 00:11:50,266 --> 00:11:53,734 his nose would almost touch my nose. 231 00:11:53,734 --> 00:11:55,166 To look into his face, 232 00:11:55,166 --> 00:11:59,266 it looked sometimes like he was looking straight through me. 233 00:11:59,266 --> 00:12:01,166 Like, he wasn't even looking at me, 234 00:12:01,166 --> 00:12:04,000 he was looking straight through something else, 235 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,533 and his eyes almost became black. 236 00:12:06,533 --> 00:12:08,066 And as time went on, 237 00:12:08,066 --> 00:12:11,066 the violent aspect of our relationship 238 00:12:11,066 --> 00:12:14,000 really, really got more intense. 239 00:12:18,367 --> 00:12:21,800 The first time that Chad ever laid hands on me 240 00:12:22,867 --> 00:12:24,367 was about six weeks 241 00:12:24,367 --> 00:12:26,533 after I found out that I was pregnant. 242 00:12:26,533 --> 00:12:28,266 I went into the bedroom, 243 00:12:28,266 --> 00:12:30,634 into a dresser. 244 00:12:32,734 --> 00:12:34,166 And he was sleeping 245 00:12:34,166 --> 00:12:35,967 because he was working the night shift. 246 00:12:39,266 --> 00:12:42,266 And the drawer squeaked. 247 00:12:42,967 --> 00:12:44,100 [faint squeak] 248 00:12:45,867 --> 00:12:45,906 And it woke him up. 249 00:12:45,906 --> 00:12:47,100 And it woke him up. 250 00:12:49,634 --> 00:12:52,734 And he immediately jumped up out of bed, 251 00:12:54,166 --> 00:12:55,634 grabbed me by my hair, 252 00:12:56,166 --> 00:12:58,000 drug me out of the room, 253 00:12:58,734 --> 00:13:01,166 kind of tossed me into the hallway 254 00:13:01,166 --> 00:13:03,100 and slammed the door on my face. 255 00:13:09,734 --> 00:13:11,367 I was shocked. 256 00:13:11,367 --> 00:13:12,967 I didn't know what had just happened. 257 00:13:12,967 --> 00:13:15,906 I was confused, I was scared. 258 00:13:15,906 --> 00:13:16,066 I was confused, I was scared. 259 00:13:16,066 --> 00:13:17,734 My heart was racing. 260 00:13:17,734 --> 00:13:19,367 I didn't know what to do. 261 00:13:19,367 --> 00:13:21,367 And I just stood there, dumbfounded. 262 00:13:21,367 --> 00:13:23,500 And then, after a few minutes, 263 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:24,634 he came out 264 00:13:24,634 --> 00:13:27,734 and he wrapped his arms around me 265 00:13:27,734 --> 00:13:31,066 from behind and just said that he was sorry, 266 00:13:31,066 --> 00:13:34,367 that he had never done anything like that before to someone. 267 00:13:34,367 --> 00:13:37,734 And that he was probably half asleep when he done it 268 00:13:37,734 --> 00:13:39,367 and that it would never happen again. 269 00:13:41,533 --> 00:13:43,800 At the time, I believed him. 270 00:13:44,266 --> 00:13:45,500 You know, I woke him up, 271 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:45,906 he's tired, he works, he provides for me. 272 00:13:45,906 --> 00:13:48,266 he's tired, he works, he provides for me. 273 00:13:48,266 --> 00:13:50,066 And I was so inconsiderate 274 00:13:50,066 --> 00:13:51,634 to go in there and wake him up. 275 00:14:01,867 --> 00:14:02,967 I didn't wanna leave 276 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:04,500 because there were times 277 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:05,734 where things were really... 278 00:14:05,734 --> 00:14:08,100 when they were good, they were okay. 279 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:10,800 And it kind of helped 280 00:14:11,533 --> 00:14:14,166 soften when things weren't okay. 281 00:14:14,166 --> 00:14:15,906 It didn't last long compared to the good times that we had. 282 00:14:15,906 --> 00:14:17,900 It didn't last long compared to the good times that we had. 283 00:14:26,266 --> 00:14:30,634 Scott was born on January 9th, 1998. 284 00:14:30,634 --> 00:14:32,467 I was 18 years old. 285 00:14:33,266 --> 00:14:36,266 And I instantly fell in love with him. 286 00:14:36,266 --> 00:14:38,800 From the moment he took his first breath, 287 00:14:39,734 --> 00:14:41,467 he was a ball of energy. 288 00:14:42,634 --> 00:14:45,906 Things were really good for a little while after that. 289 00:14:45,906 --> 00:14:46,533 Things were really good for a little while after that. 290 00:14:46,533 --> 00:14:49,066 There were times where we got along great 291 00:14:49,066 --> 00:14:51,100 and we laughed and we loved and... 292 00:14:52,467 --> 00:14:56,500 He would shower me with compliments and gifts and love. 293 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:59,734 So, for a little while after Scott was born, 294 00:14:59,734 --> 00:15:04,166 he kind of helped us have better times 295 00:15:04,166 --> 00:15:08,734 and make good memories of him when he was a newborn. 296 00:15:09,166 --> 00:15:10,367 It was calm, 297 00:15:10,367 --> 00:15:12,634 and there were no violent instances 298 00:15:12,634 --> 00:15:13,900 where he hurt me. 299 00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:23,367 We got married 300 00:15:23,367 --> 00:15:26,867 when I was six months pregnant 301 00:15:26,867 --> 00:15:30,333 with my second child at the time, Cynthia. 302 00:15:32,533 --> 00:15:35,066 There was no proposal, 303 00:15:35,066 --> 00:15:37,533 there was nothing romantic that happened. 304 00:15:37,533 --> 00:15:38,533 It's just, 305 00:15:38,533 --> 00:15:39,867 "Hey, we're getting married." 306 00:15:39,867 --> 00:15:41,867 We walked in front of a judge 307 00:15:41,867 --> 00:15:43,066 and it took about 10 minutes 308 00:15:43,066 --> 00:15:44,734 and I wore blue jeans and a t-shirt. 309 00:15:44,734 --> 00:15:45,906 And that was it. 310 00:15:45,906 --> 00:15:46,266 And that was it. 311 00:15:46,266 --> 00:15:48,533 It was done in 15 minutes. 312 00:15:54,634 --> 00:15:56,100 After a... 313 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:57,867 what I would call a honeymoon break, 314 00:15:57,867 --> 00:16:00,266 we would just eventually circle back around. 315 00:16:02,166 --> 00:16:04,266 By the time I was pregnant with Cynthia, 316 00:16:04,266 --> 00:16:05,800 I kind of knew the routine. 317 00:16:06,734 --> 00:16:08,734 He would be angry, 318 00:16:08,734 --> 00:16:10,266 he would become violent, 319 00:16:10,266 --> 00:16:11,533 he would become remorseful. 320 00:16:11,533 --> 00:16:13,367 And you could see a pattern forming. 321 00:16:13,867 --> 00:16:15,906 I lost all my friends. 322 00:16:15,906 --> 00:16:16,166 I lost all my friends. 323 00:16:16,166 --> 00:16:19,900 And my family were disappointed in me. 324 00:16:20,266 --> 00:16:21,467 And... 325 00:16:22,533 --> 00:16:23,533 did not like him. 326 00:16:23,533 --> 00:16:25,367 It made it really hard 327 00:16:25,367 --> 00:16:27,367 to have a relationship with them. 328 00:16:35,734 --> 00:16:37,634 It hadn't been long since I had Cynthia, 329 00:16:37,634 --> 00:16:39,634 she was probably a few months old. 330 00:16:39,634 --> 00:16:43,066 One day, he had been working out of town 331 00:16:43,066 --> 00:16:43,967 and he had came in 332 00:16:43,967 --> 00:16:45,734 and I had made spaghetti 333 00:16:46,734 --> 00:16:48,367 about three days before. 334 00:16:50,533 --> 00:16:52,266 And he made the comment, 335 00:16:53,066 --> 00:16:55,266 "Why is this still in here?" 336 00:16:56,867 --> 00:16:59,500 He grabbed me by my hair 337 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:01,500 and made me get on my knees 338 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:02,634 in the middle of the kitchen. 339 00:17:09,266 --> 00:17:13,233 And he set the pot of spaghetti in front of me. 340 00:17:15,266 --> 00:17:15,906 And he started scooping handfuls of spaghetti out 341 00:17:15,906 --> 00:17:20,166 And he started scooping handfuls of spaghetti out 342 00:17:20,166 --> 00:17:22,000 and force-feeding me. 343 00:17:23,367 --> 00:17:25,467 [Jessica straining] 344 00:17:27,533 --> 00:17:28,533 He's like, "Eat it. 345 00:17:28,533 --> 00:17:29,867 If you expect me to eat it, 346 00:17:29,867 --> 00:17:31,634 then you should have no problem eating it." 347 00:17:31,634 --> 00:17:34,900 And he started rubbing it on my and in my hair. 348 00:17:37,367 --> 00:17:39,266 He would take his hand 349 00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:42,634 and like, push my face back like that. 350 00:17:42,634 --> 00:17:45,906 He started punching me and slapping me around. 351 00:17:45,906 --> 00:17:47,100 He started punching me and slapping me around. 352 00:17:48,367 --> 00:17:49,734 He drug me into our bedroom 353 00:17:49,734 --> 00:17:51,967 where he continued to assault me. 354 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,867 And continued to beat me 355 00:17:55,867 --> 00:17:58,634 for a considerable amount of time. 356 00:18:00,734 --> 00:18:02,166 After he'd done that, 357 00:18:02,166 --> 00:18:03,734 he made me scrub the floors 358 00:18:03,734 --> 00:18:05,066 on my hands and knees 359 00:18:05,066 --> 00:18:07,800 with bleach rags to clean off the spaghetti sauce. 360 00:18:10,367 --> 00:18:12,367 There was something about that day, 361 00:18:12,734 --> 00:18:14,233 him treating me 362 00:18:14,967 --> 00:18:15,906 like I was not human. 363 00:18:15,906 --> 00:18:16,734 like I was not human. 364 00:18:18,367 --> 00:18:19,634 By the next morning, 365 00:18:19,634 --> 00:18:21,166 I had two black eyes 366 00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:23,367 and a fractured rib on my right side. 367 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:28,734 He had never touched the kids in an aggressive manner, 368 00:18:28,734 --> 00:18:30,634 but it terrified me. 369 00:18:30,634 --> 00:18:31,967 And it terrified me, 370 00:18:31,967 --> 00:18:34,266 like, how far is this gonna escalate? 371 00:18:34,266 --> 00:18:36,367 I never realized that he, 372 00:18:36,367 --> 00:18:39,734 even as evil and as vile as he is, 373 00:18:40,367 --> 00:18:42,233 that he would go that far. 374 00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:56,066 [Jessica] When Chad left for work, 375 00:18:56,066 --> 00:18:58,066 I got my children dressed 376 00:18:58,066 --> 00:18:59,066 and myself dressed 377 00:18:59,066 --> 00:19:00,467 and I walked to the nearest neighbor 378 00:19:00,467 --> 00:19:01,900 where I could use their phone. 379 00:19:02,367 --> 00:19:03,700 I called my family. 380 00:19:03,700 --> 00:19:05,066 And they said... 381 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:09,166 that I would need to press charges on him. 382 00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:13,100 He beat me pretty bad. 383 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,100 So, I pressed charges on him. 384 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:18,900 He was arrested and booked. 385 00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:19,920 And once he went to court 386 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,266 And once he went to court 387 00:19:22,266 --> 00:19:25,734 the judge had an agreement with his lawyer 388 00:19:25,734 --> 00:19:28,867 that he would seek psychiatric help 389 00:19:28,867 --> 00:19:33,734 in a in-patient facility and start medication. 390 00:19:35,634 --> 00:19:38,166 And after he was released from the psychiatric facility, 391 00:19:38,166 --> 00:19:40,100 I was very much on guard. 392 00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:43,367 But over time, I felt like I saw a difference in him. 393 00:19:43,367 --> 00:19:46,000 And if the therapy and medication was working, 394 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,734 I didn't know not to believe him. 395 00:19:48,266 --> 00:19:49,920 It all goes down to him 396 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,467 It all goes down to him 397 00:19:50,467 --> 00:19:53,467 spinning it around to make it somehow seem my fault. 398 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:55,734 A few months later, 399 00:19:55,734 --> 00:19:58,433 I became pregnant with Joe, my last child. 400 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,100 At that point, 401 00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:03,734 I had three children by him in three years. 402 00:20:04,634 --> 00:20:08,533 And I realized that 403 00:20:08,533 --> 00:20:10,700 how was I ever gonna escape this relationship 404 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:13,100 if I kept having children by this man? 405 00:20:15,734 --> 00:20:17,100 And unbeknownst to him, 406 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,100 it was absolutely a big risk, 407 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:19,920 and I was terrified the whole time, 408 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,533 and I was terrified the whole time, 409 00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:25,367 I went behind his back and had my tubes tied 410 00:20:25,367 --> 00:20:27,166 while he was out of town one day. 411 00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:42,467 Chad was working out of town. 412 00:20:42,467 --> 00:20:46,533 While I was waiting for him to come home, I had went to see my dad that day 413 00:20:46,533 --> 00:20:49,100 and I was a little late getting home... 414 00:20:50,367 --> 00:20:52,734 and he was frustrated that I was late... 415 00:20:53,266 --> 00:20:55,967 and he started in on me. 416 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:04,634 Scott, at the time, was three... 417 00:21:04,634 --> 00:21:08,100 and Scott ran into the living room as he was beating me 418 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:11,734 and tried to separate us and tried to get in-between us. 419 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,533 And, at that time, Chad picked him up, 420 00:21:15,533 --> 00:21:18,734 threw him onto the couch and slapped him across the back 421 00:21:18,734 --> 00:21:19,920 so hard that it left a handprint. 422 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:20,433 so hard that it left a handprint. 423 00:21:24,166 --> 00:21:30,166 He always kept a handgun in the nightstand and it always stayed loaded. 424 00:21:31,467 --> 00:21:34,266 And he laid me across the bed 425 00:21:34,266 --> 00:21:38,900 and he straddled me, with his knees on each side of my shoulders... 426 00:21:39,867 --> 00:21:41,967 and he told me to open up my mouth... 427 00:21:44,634 --> 00:21:46,734 and he forced the gun into my mouth. 428 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,920 And he got really close to me, his mouth to my ear... 429 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,433 And he got really close to me, his mouth to my ear... 430 00:21:52,734 --> 00:21:54,333 and he said... 431 00:21:55,533 --> 00:21:57,734 "Do you see the evil in my eyes?" 432 00:22:03,734 --> 00:22:04,967 I thought I was dead. 433 00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:11,433 And I vomited on me and him and the gun. 434 00:22:13,533 --> 00:22:18,533 And at that point, he pulled me off of the bed, put me on my knees... 435 00:22:18,533 --> 00:22:19,920 and, at this point, he put it to the back of my head. 436 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,634 and, at this point, he put it to the back of my head. 437 00:22:27,634 --> 00:22:28,967 [phone ringing] 438 00:22:33,266 --> 00:22:34,367 [Jessica] It was like a switch. 439 00:22:34,367 --> 00:22:38,500 He went from this aggressive, crazy, evil mindset 440 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:42,967 to talking normally on the phone, setting up arrangements. 441 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:48,000 And he said, "Get in the vehicle. 442 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,920 We're going. Get the kids up. Get a towel for your face... 443 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,467 We're going. Get the kids up. Get a towel for your face... 444 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,166 and if you let anyone see your face, 445 00:22:55,166 --> 00:22:57,533 I will kill you when we get home. 446 00:22:57,533 --> 00:22:59,433 I will promise you that. I will kill you." 447 00:23:03,367 --> 00:23:05,734 I had always made a promise to myself. 448 00:23:05,734 --> 00:23:08,467 I said, "He can hurt me as much as he wants, 449 00:23:08,467 --> 00:23:11,734 but the first time he ever puts a hand on my children, 450 00:23:11,734 --> 00:23:13,433 I will be gone." 451 00:23:14,634 --> 00:23:16,867 And so, I got the kids into the van. 452 00:23:17,734 --> 00:23:19,333 He drove to the house... 453 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,467 and I just prayed the whole way there. 454 00:23:24,467 --> 00:23:29,166 I just said, "God, make a way for me to escape right now. 455 00:23:29,166 --> 00:23:31,333 I'll never look back, I swear to you." 456 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,333 And he stepped out of the vehicle... 457 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:41,967 and was walking up to their door... 458 00:23:43,467 --> 00:23:47,367 and I jumped into the driver's seat and I locked the door 459 00:23:47,367 --> 00:23:49,920 and I probably did about 60 miles an hour 460 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,634 and I probably did about 60 miles an hour 461 00:23:51,634 --> 00:23:53,433 in reverse out of their driveway. 462 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:05,000 And when I went to put it in drive to go forward, 463 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,233 he had run across their small yard and jumped in front of the vehicle. 464 00:24:09,367 --> 00:24:13,000 And he was mouthing, "I'm gonna kill you." 465 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,634 And I just closed my eyes and I pressed the gas. 466 00:24:17,166 --> 00:24:19,920 He could do whatever he wanted to to me and I would put up with it. 467 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,533 He could do whatever he wanted to to me and I would put up with it. 468 00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:26,166 And I always said, "He'll never hurt my kids," 469 00:24:26,166 --> 00:24:31,166 but I always had this knot in my stomach... 470 00:24:31,867 --> 00:24:35,066 that something was going to happen. 471 00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,867 He came before a judge. 472 00:24:53,867 --> 00:24:56,166 Chad would know exactly what to do. 473 00:24:57,266 --> 00:25:02,000 He knew that he needed to show remorse to the judge 474 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,967 and to immediately admit fault and... 475 00:25:05,967 --> 00:25:09,367 check himself into a psychiatric facility voluntarily 476 00:25:09,367 --> 00:25:10,687 and start medication 477 00:25:10,687 --> 00:25:11,166 and start medication 478 00:25:11,166 --> 00:25:15,367 and that way it looked like he was sincere and getting help 479 00:25:15,367 --> 00:25:18,166 and that he was wanting to change. 480 00:25:18,166 --> 00:25:20,734 And I knew that wasn't true. 481 00:25:22,533 --> 00:25:26,367 He started the divorce proceedings the next month... 482 00:25:26,367 --> 00:25:31,867 and that's where the whole fight for custody began. 483 00:25:31,867 --> 00:25:35,166 And he said, "If you don't do exactly what I tell you to do 484 00:25:35,166 --> 00:25:37,467 in the divorce proceedings, then I'll take the kids 485 00:25:37,467 --> 00:25:39,166 and you'll never see them again." 486 00:25:41,367 --> 00:25:42,533 Sorry. 487 00:25:51,533 --> 00:25:53,734 If he said that he was gonna take my children from me 488 00:25:53,734 --> 00:25:55,800 and I was never gonna see them again, 489 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,166 I believed that he would make that happen. 490 00:25:58,166 --> 00:26:00,900 Even though I wasn't living with him, 491 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:07,367 I still felt that fear of him and what he could do to me. 492 00:26:07,367 --> 00:26:10,533 He was always gonna have some rights to his children 493 00:26:10,533 --> 00:26:10,687 and he was so manipulative in the court system 494 00:26:10,687 --> 00:26:14,166 and he was so manipulative in the court system 495 00:26:14,166 --> 00:26:18,734 that I was afraid that if I kept pressuring the courts 496 00:26:18,734 --> 00:26:22,066 to make a decision on where they needed to stay for the most part, 497 00:26:22,066 --> 00:26:25,467 that I would end up swaying it his way. 498 00:26:25,467 --> 00:26:27,333 So, in a way, I kind of just... 499 00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:31,533 broke down and gave him what he wanted 500 00:26:31,533 --> 00:26:36,533 so the children would stay with him for the school year. 501 00:26:36,533 --> 00:26:40,687 I still felt like maybe the instance with Scott was a one-time thing. 502 00:26:40,687 --> 00:26:41,967 I still felt like maybe the instance with Scott was a one-time thing. 503 00:26:41,967 --> 00:26:44,967 And I looked back and I was like, "You know, Jessica, 504 00:26:44,967 --> 00:26:47,467 he was never violent towards them." 505 00:26:47,467 --> 00:26:51,467 They loved him, especially Scott. 506 00:26:52,533 --> 00:26:57,166 Scott and Chad have so many likenesses. 507 00:26:57,166 --> 00:26:59,967 They have so many things in common. 508 00:26:59,967 --> 00:27:03,967 I don't think there's anything that I could have done or said 509 00:27:03,967 --> 00:27:08,000 to break that bond with them because it was so tight. 510 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,687 I think, in this picture, that Scott's emotions in it are genuine. 511 00:27:10,687 --> 00:27:12,800 I think, in this picture, that Scott's emotions in it are genuine. 512 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,867 I think that Chad's is for the camera. 513 00:27:26,634 --> 00:27:28,867 This is Scott. 514 00:27:28,867 --> 00:27:33,066 He loved to dress up in his dad's army gear. 515 00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:34,634 It's one of my favorite pictures. 516 00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:52,467 After our divorce, I decided that 517 00:27:52,467 --> 00:27:55,467 I was gonna stop depending on men for my livelihood 518 00:27:55,467 --> 00:27:58,734 and that I was gonna step up and take care of myself. 519 00:27:58,734 --> 00:28:02,367 I can't think of anything more empowering for a woman 520 00:28:02,367 --> 00:28:04,734 than to join the United States Army. 521 00:28:04,734 --> 00:28:06,367 And that's what I did. 522 00:28:07,867 --> 00:28:10,687 I just had recently graduated basic training with the United States Army. 523 00:28:10,687 --> 00:28:14,367 I just had recently graduated basic training with the United States Army. 524 00:28:14,367 --> 00:28:17,166 I actually met Eric through one of his friends. 525 00:28:19,266 --> 00:28:21,967 [Eric] January 1st of 2007, 526 00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:25,433 a friend of mine had gone to a New Year's Eve party. 527 00:28:26,066 --> 00:28:27,967 I was on duty that night. 528 00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:30,166 The following afternoon, he called me and said, 529 00:28:30,166 --> 00:28:35,367 "Hey, I met a girl. Will you come with me? She has a friend." 530 00:28:35,367 --> 00:28:38,367 We kind of hit it off and we liked each other a lot. 531 00:28:39,266 --> 00:28:40,687 It got serious pretty quickly. 532 00:28:40,687 --> 00:28:41,166 It got serious pretty quickly. 533 00:28:41,166 --> 00:28:43,634 [Jessica] When the kids first met Eric, 534 00:28:43,634 --> 00:28:47,533 Scott was 10, Cynthia was nine and Joe was eight. 535 00:28:47,533 --> 00:28:50,533 [Eric] We went to the beach, went out and played catch on the beach. 536 00:28:50,533 --> 00:28:53,100 Their dad had never done that with them. 537 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:56,166 The kids, throughout the years, had gone back and forth 538 00:28:56,166 --> 00:28:58,000 from Dad to us. 539 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,900 The teenage years, in particular, were a little bit difficult. 540 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:05,100 Their love for their father and what he was constantly telling them 541 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,266 was kind of against all the rules 542 00:29:07,266 --> 00:29:10,687 and expectations that we were trying to set in our house. 543 00:29:10,687 --> 00:29:11,266 and expectations that we were trying to set in our house. 544 00:29:11,266 --> 00:29:16,166 We had his father telling Scott that he didn't have to listen to me... 545 00:29:16,166 --> 00:29:20,333 and that caused, you know, kind of a rift. 546 00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:25,100 So, Scott, he was very outgoing 547 00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:28,467 and he lived the kind of life where he didn't care who was looking. 548 00:29:28,467 --> 00:29:32,734 He was the guy that everybody invited to the party 549 00:29:32,734 --> 00:29:34,100 'cause he was gonna bring it. 550 00:29:40,166 --> 00:29:40,687 I met Chad on a few occasions. 551 00:29:40,687 --> 00:29:42,266 I met Chad on a few occasions. 552 00:29:42,266 --> 00:29:45,000 Jessica always asked me to maintain 553 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,900 a cordial relationship with him for the kids. 554 00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:50,634 So I tried to do that. 555 00:29:50,634 --> 00:29:53,367 I will tell you that there's not a single time... 556 00:29:54,166 --> 00:29:56,634 that I have been around Chad Graves 557 00:29:56,634 --> 00:29:59,000 that I have not had a gun on me, though, 558 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,634 because I do not trust that man. 559 00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:10,634 [Stacy] We actually met in the seventh or sixth grade, 560 00:30:10,634 --> 00:30:10,687 but when we got to high school, 561 00:30:10,687 --> 00:30:12,533 but when we got to high school, 562 00:30:12,533 --> 00:30:14,266 we kind of went our separate ways 563 00:30:14,266 --> 00:30:17,533 until he contacted me on Facebook. 564 00:30:17,533 --> 00:30:20,266 He's very, very charming. 565 00:30:20,266 --> 00:30:24,734 He would open the car door for me, help me put my seatbelt on. 566 00:30:24,734 --> 00:30:26,734 Just very, very gentleman-like. 567 00:30:29,066 --> 00:30:31,734 I was aware Chad was on medication 568 00:30:31,734 --> 00:30:35,266 a month or so, I guess, three months, maybe, after we got together. 569 00:30:35,266 --> 00:30:38,166 He told me that he had had some issues 570 00:30:38,166 --> 00:30:40,687 with PTSD from being in the Army 571 00:30:40,687 --> 00:30:41,166 with PTSD from being in the Army 572 00:30:41,166 --> 00:30:47,367 'cause as far as me and him, he had not shown any violent side yet. 573 00:30:50,734 --> 00:30:55,867 Chad would tell me and Scott about some of the things he done in the military. 574 00:30:55,867 --> 00:30:59,066 He told us that he was a commander on a Bradley 575 00:30:59,066 --> 00:31:04,367 and they hit an IED and it flipped the Bradley 576 00:31:04,367 --> 00:31:08,900 and he landed on his head and that's how he got injured in Iraq. 577 00:31:10,367 --> 00:31:10,687 I believe Scott was 16 years old when I met him. 578 00:31:10,687 --> 00:31:14,900 I believe Scott was 16 years old when I met him. 579 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:19,066 Scott was very, very loyal to his daddy. 580 00:31:19,066 --> 00:31:24,467 It didn't matter what Chad done to him, he would always forgive him 581 00:31:24,467 --> 00:31:28,000 and hug him and tell his daddy that he loved him. 582 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:33,000 No matter what Chad did, he always forgave him. 583 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:44,533 [Jessica] I woke up like it was any other day. 584 00:31:44,533 --> 00:31:47,266 I got up and I made me some coffee. 585 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,066 And I noticed that I had a missed message on Facebook 586 00:31:53,066 --> 00:31:55,100 from someone that I did not recognize. 587 00:31:56,533 --> 00:32:02,066 It stated, "Hello. I'm a friend of Chad and Stacy's 588 00:32:02,066 --> 00:32:04,467 and Stacy's trying to reach you. 589 00:32:04,467 --> 00:32:07,734 It's an emergency. Please call her back at this number." 590 00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:10,687 And so, immediately, my first thought was... 591 00:32:10,687 --> 00:32:13,000 And so, immediately, my first thought was... 592 00:32:14,367 --> 00:32:17,900 they've probably got into an argument and they've fought. 593 00:32:19,467 --> 00:32:20,900 So I called. 594 00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:25,467 And as soon as Stacy answered the phone, I couldn't understand her. 595 00:32:25,467 --> 00:32:31,634 She was screaming and crying and saying, over and over, that he killed him. 596 00:32:40,367 --> 00:32:43,634 [Stacy] On August 16th of 2018... 597 00:32:43,634 --> 00:32:48,333 Scott asked his dad if he could go to his grandmother's house... 598 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,233 and Chad told him no... 599 00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:54,533 and things escalated... 600 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,900 from there. 601 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:00,700 Chad was in the bed. 602 00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:04,634 I was standing beside the bed, talking to Chad. 603 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,700 And the next thing I knew... 604 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:14,634 Chad jumped up out of bed, pushed Scott into a corner. 605 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,800 That's where Chad's shotgun was. 606 00:33:22,166 --> 00:33:25,467 Scott grabbed the nozzle of the gun 607 00:33:25,467 --> 00:33:29,000 and then Chad grabbed it and that's when they started fighting over it. 608 00:33:32,467 --> 00:33:34,600 They worked their way into the dining room, 609 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,954 fighting over it, wrestling over it. 610 00:33:35,954 --> 00:33:37,500 fighting over it, wrestling over it. 611 00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:41,734 From where I was standing, I couldn't see where Scott was... 612 00:33:41,734 --> 00:33:45,233 but Chad, I could see and he had the shotgun... 613 00:33:45,734 --> 00:33:46,967 in his hand. 614 00:33:46,967 --> 00:33:50,600 And I said, "Put the gun down. What are you doing?" 615 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,900 And he just looked at me with a blank look... 616 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,734 and he racked the shotgun... 617 00:33:58,867 --> 00:34:00,166 and then fired. 618 00:34:00,166 --> 00:34:01,634 [gunshot] 619 00:34:08,367 --> 00:34:09,734 [sniffs] I'm sorry. 620 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,233 [sighs shakily] I come running out of the bedroom... 621 00:34:18,166 --> 00:34:19,533 to get to Scott... 622 00:34:20,867 --> 00:34:23,500 and Chad got in front of me and told me, 623 00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:27,333 "Don't look at him. Don't touch him. Call 911." 624 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,433 I was in such shock. 625 00:34:36,367 --> 00:34:40,533 And then, after that, it's all... 626 00:34:41,467 --> 00:34:43,867 a blank until the police get there. 627 00:34:43,867 --> 00:34:45,333 [police sirens] 628 00:34:48,700 --> 00:34:52,166 [Stacy] The police took me out in the breezeway of the apartment. 629 00:34:52,166 --> 00:34:55,533 I'm in my pajamas, no shoes. 630 00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,900 Chad was to the left of me and I remember them 631 00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:05,100 arresting and handcuffing him, but they took me to a police car. 632 00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:05,954 It's pouring rain this night. 633 00:35:05,954 --> 00:35:07,634 It's pouring rain this night. 634 00:35:09,166 --> 00:35:12,734 From there, he goes to the VA, to the mental hospital. 635 00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:20,600 [Eric] I was at work. 636 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,467 It's about nine o'clock in the morning. 637 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,166 I was on a break and Jessica called me... 638 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,867 hysterical. 639 00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:33,266 And she's screaming into the phone, 640 00:35:33,266 --> 00:35:35,954 "He killed him. He killed him. He killed my baby." 641 00:35:35,954 --> 00:35:37,166 "He killed him. He killed him. He killed my baby." 642 00:35:39,467 --> 00:35:43,166 [Jessica crying] And I prayed for God to send him back to me 643 00:35:43,166 --> 00:35:44,634 and that he could take me. 644 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,800 And then the next thing I remember... 645 00:35:49,533 --> 00:35:51,634 was being in the front yard on my knees 646 00:35:51,634 --> 00:35:55,700 and a police officer from our town pulling up to be with me 647 00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:57,800 until Eric could make it. 648 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,734 And I fell onto hot asphalt and laid in the fetal position... 649 00:36:06,367 --> 00:36:09,066 while my whole world just fell apart. 650 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,734 I immediately knew there was no way that it was self defense 651 00:36:21,734 --> 00:36:27,467 because I know my son and I know what kind of heart he had... 652 00:36:28,867 --> 00:36:33,467 and I know how evil Chad was... 653 00:36:33,467 --> 00:36:35,954 and I knew that he would say whatever he needed to to try to get out of trouble. 654 00:36:35,954 --> 00:36:39,233 and I knew that he would say whatever he needed to to try to get out of trouble. 655 00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:44,867 I let fear drive me to accept... 656 00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:47,634 the custody agreement. 657 00:36:47,634 --> 00:36:50,900 And I will, to this day, for the rest of my life... 658 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,867 feel guilt... 659 00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:56,433 and anguish over that decision. 660 00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:09,800 [Stacy] They looked at all the evidence. 661 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,734 All the shotgun pellets were in the baseboards of the floor. 662 00:37:14,734 --> 00:37:20,266 The way the blood was pooled showed that Scott was on the floor when he was shot. 663 00:37:20,266 --> 00:37:22,900 So he was not a threat for Chad. 664 00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,100 He could have put the gun down at any time. 665 00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:31,166 Chad shot Scott like it wasn't nothing to him. 666 00:37:31,166 --> 00:37:33,166 And I just... I can't comprehend it. 667 00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:35,954 The police arrested him on August the 29th of 2018... 668 00:37:35,954 --> 00:37:42,066 The police arrested him on August the 29th of 2018... 669 00:37:42,066 --> 00:37:45,333 at the Biloxi VA, when he was being discharged. 670 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,166 [Jessica] With Chad being manipulative, 671 00:37:55,166 --> 00:37:57,467 he found this perfect opportunity 672 00:37:57,467 --> 00:38:00,533 to say, "Hey! You know, I have PTSD." 673 00:38:01,266 --> 00:38:05,000 But anybody that knew Chad before he deployed 674 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,954 knew that this behavior didn't come around because of PTSD... 675 00:38:05,954 --> 00:38:10,467 knew that this behavior didn't come around because of PTSD... 676 00:38:10,467 --> 00:38:15,867 because he was abusing people and being violent way before he ever saw combat. 677 00:38:18,367 --> 00:38:22,233 And, which we later found out, he, in fact, never saw combat. 678 00:38:25,734 --> 00:38:30,467 People don't realize that not every job that you do in the military... 679 00:38:30,467 --> 00:38:35,266 puts you in harm's way or puts you in a combat situation. 680 00:38:35,266 --> 00:38:35,954 I contacted several of his army buddies... 681 00:38:35,954 --> 00:38:38,100 I contacted several of his army buddies... 682 00:38:39,166 --> 00:38:40,800 and they told me... 683 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,700 early on in his deployment, he was deemed a liability 684 00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:46,266 because of a negligent discharge. 685 00:38:46,266 --> 00:38:50,634 They pulled him off of the frontlines and put him behind a computer. 686 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,166 He lied about everything that he did in the military. 687 00:39:02,734 --> 00:39:04,233 I felt betrayed. 688 00:39:05,367 --> 00:39:05,954 I believe he uses PTSD as a crutch. 689 00:39:05,954 --> 00:39:08,166 I believe he uses PTSD as a crutch. 690 00:39:09,266 --> 00:39:12,000 I mean, you don't lie about stuff like that. 691 00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:28,066 [Jessica] When I saw him walk in, I was shocked at his appearance. 692 00:39:28,066 --> 00:39:30,000 He's aged... 693 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,533 rightfully so, being in jail for the last three years. 694 00:39:34,166 --> 00:39:35,954 I saw very little remorse. 695 00:39:35,954 --> 00:39:36,333 I saw very little remorse. 696 00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:42,000 They told me I could have a few moments to speak and I took six minutes 697 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,166 to give my victim's impact statement. 698 00:39:44,166 --> 00:39:46,867 [Jessica on laptop] 699 00:39:54,467 --> 00:39:57,900 I looked him in the face and there was no expression, 700 00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:00,166 except for the fact when I said, 701 00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:04,500 "Scott was the only child that loved you unconditionally 702 00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:05,954 and forgave you for everything you ever did to him." 703 00:40:05,954 --> 00:40:06,867 and forgave you for everything you ever did to him." 704 00:40:06,867 --> 00:40:09,233 And, at that point, he shook his head "yes." 705 00:40:11,066 --> 00:40:14,266 And then they asked him if he wanted to speak and he said no. 706 00:40:14,266 --> 00:40:16,066 And then they sentenced him. 707 00:40:28,533 --> 00:40:32,100 The fact that he could get out in six years consumed me. 708 00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:35,467 I kept thinking, "What do I need to do, 709 00:40:35,467 --> 00:40:35,954 proactively as a parent, to protect my remaining children? 710 00:40:35,954 --> 00:40:38,800 proactively as a parent, to protect my remaining children? 711 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,734 How do I protect us all?" 712 00:40:42,266 --> 00:40:45,967 [Stacy] He was just a mean, evil, evil person. 713 00:40:47,266 --> 00:40:51,433 Who could do that to their own child and not show any remorse? 714 00:40:53,467 --> 00:40:56,734 [Eric] I, in the back of my head... 715 00:40:58,367 --> 00:40:59,734 always believed... 716 00:41:00,467 --> 00:41:01,734 that one day... 717 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,800 Chad would go too far. 718 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:05,954 But I never thought that it would be one of his kids 719 00:41:05,954 --> 00:41:10,266 But I never thought that it would be one of his kids 720 00:41:10,266 --> 00:41:14,233 and, furthermore, I never thought that it would be Scott... 721 00:41:16,166 --> 00:41:23,166 the one kid that always stood by him, always defended him. 722 00:41:25,266 --> 00:41:30,433 Chad didn't become a monster because of Iraq. 723 00:41:31,867 --> 00:41:33,433 Chad was a monster... 724 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,954 from his teenage years... 725 00:41:35,954 --> 00:41:37,266 from his teenage years... 726 00:41:37,266 --> 00:41:40,233 to the point where he decided to pull the trigger on his own son. 727 00:41:45,533 --> 00:41:46,734 For a long time... 728 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,533 I felt like a piece of me died. 729 00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:55,533 I got justice for him, to some degree. 730 00:41:56,533 --> 00:41:58,333 I was honored to be his mother. 731 00:42:04,166 --> 00:42:05,954 The world is really missing out 732 00:42:05,954 --> 00:42:06,533 The world is really missing out 733 00:42:06,533 --> 00:42:08,467 with him not being here anymore. 58210

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