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[Jessica] I livedin this fairytale
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that I needed a manthat would rescue me.
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He made me feel safe.
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He made me feel secure.
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But my station in life
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was to be a housewife,
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a mother,
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and a maid.
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I've said,
"God, if you could...
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make a way for me
to escape right now,
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I'll never look back.
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I swear to you."
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He forced the gun
into my mouth.
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And he got really close to me,
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his mouth to my ear,
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and he said,
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"Do you see the evilin my eyes?"
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"Do you see the evilin my eyes?"
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[Stacy] I said,"Put the gun down,what are you doing?"
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I'm sorry.
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[Jessica] I was his wife.
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I never realized that he,
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even as evil
and as vile as he is,
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that he would go that far.
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I grew up in a small town.
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in rural southern Mississippi.
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Almost like a one-horse town,
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everybody knew everybody.
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I did things, small thingslike sneaking out,
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underage drinking.
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And that environment
is where I met Chad.
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When I first met him,
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the first thing thatI noticed about him
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the first thing thatI noticed about him
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was his outgoing personality.
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For lack of a better word,
he was very hyperactive.
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Very, "Go, go, go. Let's do."
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And he was alsovery attractive.
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I was very young and naive
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and lived in this fairy tale
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that I needed a man
that would rescue me
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and take care of me.
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Chad gave me all those things.
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He made me feel safe,he made me feel secure.
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He made me feel safe,he made me feel secure.
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Our relationship
moved so fast.
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I was barely 17 and he was 24.
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The day that I found out
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that I was pregnant with Scott
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was very scary for me.
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I knew, even as a teenager,
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that this was a lot,and a huge step,
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that this was a lot,and a huge step,
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and I was gonna haveto grow up really fast.
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The day that I told Chad
that I was pregnant,
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he acted ecstatic.
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He was happy.
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Just a normal, I guess,soon-to-be dad.
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He started being
more aggressive
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in his plans to find us
a home to live in.
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I thought that that would
give us time to just
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really become the family
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really become the family
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that I thought
that we could be.
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We ended up renting a home
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from his older brother
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in the middle of nowhere,
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down a long, dirt country road
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in the middle of the woods.
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For the first few weeks,
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For the first few weeks,
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we just lived together
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trying to figure out what
we were to each other.
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We would have bonfires and...
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we would go fishing
and just...
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just the countryway of living,
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it was really what it was.
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At that time,
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Chad was an attractive guy
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that was fun to be around.
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Early on in my pregnancy,
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there was a shift
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in the way Chad treated me.
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He started isolating me more.
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He slowly alienated mefrom family.
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Being an outdoorsy,tomboy country girl,
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I had a lot of male friends.
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If I was allowedto be around them,
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he had to be in my presence.
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he had to be in my presence.
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And it was very fewand far between.
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And his jealousy towardsthose male friends
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fractured a lotof those friendshipsfor a long time.
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Chad paved highways
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all across the southern partof Mississippi.
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He sometimes would be gonefive days a week.
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I mainly would see himon the weekends.
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I mainly would see himon the weekends.
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While he was gone,
I was still isolated
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in the home that we lived in.
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He made sure of that
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because he wouldunplug the landline
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and take it with him to work.
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He would also takethe only vehicle that we had
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and the cell phone with him.
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I was pregnant.
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I was terrifiedto be alone there
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in the middle of nowhere
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without a way to go
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or a way to communicatewith anyone.
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or a way to communicatewith anyone.
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One day he came home
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that weekend from workingout of town.
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Immediately jumpsin the shower.
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You know, that was
an immediate red flag for me.
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It's like, "Why before he even
touches me does he have
to get in the shower?"
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And then I just decidedto go through the cell phone.
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And I noticed there wasincoming and outgoing calls
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And I noticed there wasincoming and outgoing calls
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to this same number that
wasn't saved in his phone
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and the was talking to
for an hour or two at a time.
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So, I ended up writing downthat phone number
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and then callingfrom the house phone.
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And the lady informed me that
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they had been having an affair
for about six months.
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I always had
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problems with self-esteem
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from a very early age.
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With Chad and with
a lot of abusers,
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what they do isthey break downyour self-esteem,
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your self-confidence,
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and make you feel like
there's no way
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that you could survive
without them.
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I'm not sure
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when his interestin the military started.
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when his interestin the military started.
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He had a almost
unnatural obsession
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with firearms.
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And I think that probablyplayed a big role
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in him originally joiningthe National Guard.
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Where I grew up in
in rural Mississippi,
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it is not uncommon
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for everyone to own firearms.
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But what was unusual
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with Chad's interestwith firearms
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is that it wenta little bit beyond that.
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is that it wenta little bit beyond that.
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He had up to 20 firearms
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including assault riflesand handguns.
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He had an AR-15,
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he had an AK-47,
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he had a 12-gauge shotgun,
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.45 caliber handgun,
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357 Magnum,
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and a 38 Special.
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That's the onesthat I remember.
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It was less about
owning the firearms
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than the comments that he made
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than the comments that he made
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regarding those firearms.
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The need to stockpile weapons
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in case if there was
ever an instance
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where he needsto be in a militia
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or to overthrowthe government.
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When I was with him, I was...
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17 to 21 years old.
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It was very terrifying to me.
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There was an instance
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where we were driving
down a back road
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where we were driving
down a back road
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in the middle of the woods.
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I remember it being
a really hot day.
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In my area,there's a lot of strays
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and stuff that get dumpedin the country.
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And a dog was just walkingdown the side of the road.
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And Chad stoppedall of a sudden
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and he called the dog
to the driver door.
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And the dog
was happy to see him,
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wagging its tail.
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[dog whimpers]
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And he grabbed
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And he grabbed
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his .45 caliber handgun
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out from underneath the seat.
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And he was saying,
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"Come here, poochie,
come here."
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Then the dog kinda
put its front paws
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on the side of our vehicle.
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And at that point, he just...
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-[gunshots]
-[dog cries]
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...shot the dog in the head.
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To see someone be so evil
towards animals
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was something I had never
witnessed before in my life.
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was something I had never
witnessed before in my life.
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And it traumatized me.
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It scared me.
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And I think it was
to let me know
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that he's capable of doing
some pretty horrible things
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if I didn't get in line.
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[Jessica] Chad wasextremely peculiar
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about the way the housewas supposed to be.
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He made it obviouslyclear that...
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what my station in life was.
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To be a housewife,
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a mother and a maid.
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It was compulsive,
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it was obsessive.
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it was obsessive.
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He would want thingslined up a certain way.
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All of the vegetablesin the cabinets,
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they all had to be
grouped together,
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the corn together,
green beans together,
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all the labels facinga certain way.
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It all had to be linedin a uniform, straight manner.
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Usually, when I knew
that he was heading in
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for the weekend,
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I would spendthat whole day before
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scrubbing with Q-tips,
toothbrushes,
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scrubbing with Q-tips,
toothbrushes,
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just getting everything right.
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But in those occasions
when something slacked,
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I paid for it.
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Dirt on the floor
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could cause him to empty out
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and dump out dressers
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and tear clothesout of closets
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and flip mattressesoff of beds.
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Swipe clean dishesoff surfaces.
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There was instances
where he would...
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his nose would almost
touch my nose.
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To look into his face,
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it looked sometimeslike he was lookingstraight through me.
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Like, he wasn't even
looking at me,
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he was looking straight
through something else,
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and his eyes almostbecame black.
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And as time went on,
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the violent aspect
of our relationship
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really, really got
more intense.
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The first time that Chadever laid hands on me
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was about six weeks
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after I found out
that I was pregnant.
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I went into the bedroom,
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into a dresser.
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And he was sleeping
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because he was workingthe night shift.
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And the drawer squeaked.
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[faint squeak]
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And it woke him up.
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And it woke him up.
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And he immediatelyjumped up out of bed,
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grabbed me by my hair,
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drug me out of the room,
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kind of tossed me
into the hallway
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and slammed the dooron my face.
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I was shocked.
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I didn't know what
had just happened.
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I was confused, I was scared.
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I was confused, I was scared.
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My heart was racing.
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I didn't know what to do.
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And I just stood there,
dumbfounded.
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And then, after a few minutes,
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he came out
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and he wrappedhis arms around me
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from behind and just saidthat he was sorry,
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that he had never done
anything like that before
to someone.
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And that he was
probably half asleep
when he done it
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and that it would
never happen again.
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At the time, I believed him.
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You know, I woke him up,
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he's tired, he works,
he provides for me.
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he's tired, he works,
he provides for me.
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And I was so inconsiderate
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to go in thereand wake him up.
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I didn't wanna leave
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because there were times
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where things were really...
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when they were good,
they were okay.
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And it kind of helped
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soften when things
weren't okay.
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It didn't last long comparedto the good times that we had.
282
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It didn't last long comparedto the good times that we had.
283
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Scott was bornon January 9th, 1998.
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I was 18 years old.
285
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And I instantly fellin love with him.
286
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From the moment
he took his first breath,
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he was a ball of energy.
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Things were really goodfor a little while after that.
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Things were really goodfor a little while after that.
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There were timeswhere we got along great
291
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and we laughedand we loved and...
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He would shower me
with compliments
and gifts and love.
293
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So, for a little whileafter Scott was born,
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he kind of helped ushave better times
295
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and make good memories of him
when he was a newborn.
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It was calm,
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and there were noviolent instances
298
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where he hurt me.
299
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We got married
300
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when I was six months pregnant
301
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with my second childat the time, Cynthia.
302
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There was no proposal,
303
00:15:35,066 --> 00:15:37,533
there was nothing
romantic that happened.
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It's just,
305
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"Hey, we're getting married."
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We walked in front of a judge
307
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and it took about 10 minutes
308
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and I wore blue jeansand a t-shirt.
309
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And that was it.
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And that was it.
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It was done in 15 minutes.
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After a...
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what I would calla honeymoon break,
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we would just eventually
circle back around.
315
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By the time I was
pregnant with Cynthia,
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I kind of knew the routine.
317
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He would be angry,
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he would become violent,
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he would become remorseful.
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And you could seea pattern forming.
321
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I lost all my friends.
322
00:16:15,906 --> 00:16:16,166
I lost all my friends.
323
00:16:16,166 --> 00:16:19,900
And my family were
disappointed in me.
324
00:16:20,266 --> 00:16:21,467
And...
325
00:16:22,533 --> 00:16:23,533
did not like him.
326
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It made it really hard
327
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to have a relationshipwith them.
328
00:16:35,734 --> 00:16:37,634
It hadn't been longsince I had Cynthia,
329
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she was probablya few months old.
330
00:16:39,634 --> 00:16:43,066
One day, he had been
working out of town
331
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and he had came in
332
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and I had made spaghetti
333
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about three days before.
334
00:16:50,533 --> 00:16:52,266
And he made the comment,
335
00:16:53,066 --> 00:16:55,266
"Why is this still in here?"
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00:16:56,867 --> 00:16:59,500
He grabbed me by my hair
337
00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:01,500
and made me get on my knees
338
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in the middle of the kitchen.
339
00:17:09,266 --> 00:17:13,233
And he set the pot
of spaghetti in front of me.
340
00:17:15,266 --> 00:17:15,906
And he started scoopinghandfuls of spaghetti out
341
00:17:15,906 --> 00:17:20,166
And he started scoopinghandfuls of spaghetti out
342
00:17:20,166 --> 00:17:22,000
and force-feeding me.
343
00:17:23,367 --> 00:17:25,467
[Jessica straining]
344
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He's like, "Eat it.
345
00:17:28,533 --> 00:17:29,867
If you expect me to eat it,
346
00:17:29,867 --> 00:17:31,634
then you should have
no problem eating it."
347
00:17:31,634 --> 00:17:34,900
And he started rubbing it
on my and in my hair.
348
00:17:37,367 --> 00:17:39,266
He would take his hand
349
00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:42,634
and like, push my face
back like that.
350
00:17:42,634 --> 00:17:45,906
He started punching meand slapping me around.
351
00:17:45,906 --> 00:17:47,100
He started punching meand slapping me around.
352
00:17:48,367 --> 00:17:49,734
He drug me into our bedroom
353
00:17:49,734 --> 00:17:51,967
where he continued
to assault me.
354
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,867
And continued to beat me
355
00:17:55,867 --> 00:17:58,634
for a considerable
amount of time.
356
00:18:00,734 --> 00:18:02,166
After he'd done that,
357
00:18:02,166 --> 00:18:03,734
he made me scrub the floors
358
00:18:03,734 --> 00:18:05,066
on my hands and knees
359
00:18:05,066 --> 00:18:07,800
with bleach rags to clean off
the spaghetti sauce.
360
00:18:10,367 --> 00:18:12,367
There was somethingabout that day,
361
00:18:12,734 --> 00:18:14,233
him treating me
362
00:18:14,967 --> 00:18:15,906
like I was not human.
363
00:18:15,906 --> 00:18:16,734
like I was not human.
364
00:18:18,367 --> 00:18:19,634
By the next morning,
365
00:18:19,634 --> 00:18:21,166
I had two black eyes
366
00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:23,367
and a fractured rib
on my right side.
367
00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:28,734
He had never touched the kidsin an aggressive manner,
368
00:18:28,734 --> 00:18:30,634
but it terrified me.
369
00:18:30,634 --> 00:18:31,967
And it terrified me,
370
00:18:31,967 --> 00:18:34,266
like, how far is this
gonna escalate?
371
00:18:34,266 --> 00:18:36,367
I never realized that he,
372
00:18:36,367 --> 00:18:39,734
even as evil
and as vile as he is,
373
00:18:40,367 --> 00:18:42,233
that he would go that far.
374
00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:56,066
[Jessica] When Chadleft for work,
375
00:18:56,066 --> 00:18:58,066
I got my children dressed
376
00:18:58,066 --> 00:18:59,066
and myself dressed
377
00:18:59,066 --> 00:19:00,467
and I walkedto the nearest neighbor
378
00:19:00,467 --> 00:19:01,900
where I could use their phone.
379
00:19:02,367 --> 00:19:03,700
I called my family.
380
00:19:03,700 --> 00:19:05,066
And they said...
381
00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:09,166
that I would need
to press charges on him.
382
00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:13,100
He beat me pretty bad.
383
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,100
So, I pressed charges on him.
384
00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:18,900
He was arrested and booked.
385
00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:19,920
And once he went to court
386
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,266
And once he went to court
387
00:19:22,266 --> 00:19:25,734
the judge had an agreementwith his lawyer
388
00:19:25,734 --> 00:19:28,867
that he would seekpsychiatric help
389
00:19:28,867 --> 00:19:33,734
in a in-patient facility
and start medication.
390
00:19:35,634 --> 00:19:38,166
And after he was releasedfrom the psychiatric facility,
391
00:19:38,166 --> 00:19:40,100
I was very much on guard.
392
00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:43,367
But over time, I felt likeI saw a difference in him.
393
00:19:43,367 --> 00:19:46,000
And if the therapyand medication was working,
394
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,734
I didn't knownot to believe him.
395
00:19:48,266 --> 00:19:49,920
It all goes down to him
396
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,467
It all goes down to him
397
00:19:50,467 --> 00:19:53,467
spinning it around to make it
somehow seem my fault.
398
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:55,734
A few months later,
399
00:19:55,734 --> 00:19:58,433
I became pregnant with Joe,my last child.
400
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,100
At that point,
401
00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:03,734
I had three children by himin three years.
402
00:20:04,634 --> 00:20:08,533
And I realized that
403
00:20:08,533 --> 00:20:10,700
how was I ever gonna
escape this relationship
404
00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:13,100
if I kept having childrenby this man?
405
00:20:15,734 --> 00:20:17,100
And unbeknownst to him,
406
00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,100
it was absolutely a big risk,
407
00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:19,920
and I was terrified
the whole time,
408
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,533
and I was terrified
the whole time,
409
00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:25,367
I went behind his back
and had my tubes tied
410
00:20:25,367 --> 00:20:27,166
while he was
out of town one day.
411
00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:42,467
Chad was working out of town.
412
00:20:42,467 --> 00:20:46,533
While I was waiting for him
to come home, I had went
to see my dad that day
413
00:20:46,533 --> 00:20:49,100
and I was a little late
getting home...
414
00:20:50,367 --> 00:20:52,734
and he was frustratedthat I was late...
415
00:20:53,266 --> 00:20:55,967
and he started in on me.
416
00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:04,634
Scott, at the time,was three...
417
00:21:04,634 --> 00:21:08,100
and Scott raninto the living roomas he was beating me
418
00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:11,734
and tried to separate usand tried to getin-between us.
419
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,533
And, at that time,
Chad picked him up,
420
00:21:15,533 --> 00:21:18,734
threw him onto the couch
and slapped him
across the back
421
00:21:18,734 --> 00:21:19,920
so hardthat it left a handprint.
422
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:20,433
so hardthat it left a handprint.
423
00:21:24,166 --> 00:21:30,166
He always kept a handgunin the nightstandand it always stayed loaded.
424
00:21:31,467 --> 00:21:34,266
And he laid me across the bed
425
00:21:34,266 --> 00:21:38,900
and he straddled me,with his knees on each sideof my shoulders...
426
00:21:39,867 --> 00:21:41,967
and he told me
to open up my mouth...
427
00:21:44,634 --> 00:21:46,734
and he forced
the gun into my mouth.
428
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,920
And he got really close to me,
his mouth to my ear...
429
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,433
And he got really close to me,
his mouth to my ear...
430
00:21:52,734 --> 00:21:54,333
and he said...
431
00:21:55,533 --> 00:21:57,734
"Do you see
the evil in my eyes?"
432
00:22:03,734 --> 00:22:04,967
I thought I was dead.
433
00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:11,433
And I vomited on me
and him and the gun.
434
00:22:13,533 --> 00:22:18,533
And at that point,he pulled me off of the bed,put me on my knees...
435
00:22:18,533 --> 00:22:19,920
and, at this point,he put it to the backof my head.
436
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,634
and, at this point,he put it to the backof my head.
437
00:22:27,634 --> 00:22:28,967
[phone ringing]
438
00:22:33,266 --> 00:22:34,367
[Jessica] It was likea switch.
439
00:22:34,367 --> 00:22:38,500
He went from this aggressive,
crazy, evil mindset
440
00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:42,967
to talking normallyon the phone,setting up arrangements.
441
00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:48,000
And he said,
"Get in the vehicle.
442
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,920
We're going. Get the kids up.
Get a towel for your face...
443
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,467
We're going. Get the kids up.
Get a towel for your face...
444
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,166
and if you let anyonesee your face,
445
00:22:55,166 --> 00:22:57,533
I will kill you
when we get home.
446
00:22:57,533 --> 00:22:59,433
I will promise you that.
I will kill you."
447
00:23:03,367 --> 00:23:05,734
I had always madea promise to myself.
448
00:23:05,734 --> 00:23:08,467
I said, "He can hurt me
as much as he wants,
449
00:23:08,467 --> 00:23:11,734
but the first time
he ever puts a hand
on my children,
450
00:23:11,734 --> 00:23:13,433
I will be gone."
451
00:23:14,634 --> 00:23:16,867
And so, I got the kidsinto the van.
452
00:23:17,734 --> 00:23:19,333
He drove to the house...
453
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,467
and I just prayed
the whole way there.
454
00:23:24,467 --> 00:23:29,166
I just said,
"God, make a way for me
to escape right now.
455
00:23:29,166 --> 00:23:31,333
I'll never look back,
I swear to you."
456
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,333
And he stepped outof the vehicle...
457
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:41,967
and was walking upto their door...
458
00:23:43,467 --> 00:23:47,367
and I jumped intothe driver's seatand I locked the door
459
00:23:47,367 --> 00:23:49,920
and I probably did
about 60 miles an hour
460
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,634
and I probably did
about 60 miles an hour
461
00:23:51,634 --> 00:23:53,433
in reverse
out of their driveway.
462
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:05,000
And when I went to put it
in drive to go forward,
463
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,233
he had run across
their small yard and jumped
in front of the vehicle.
464
00:24:09,367 --> 00:24:13,000
And he was mouthing,
"I'm gonna kill you."
465
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,634
And I just closed my eyes
and I pressed the gas.
466
00:24:17,166 --> 00:24:19,920
He could do whateverhe wanted to to meand I would put up with it.
467
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,533
He could do whateverhe wanted to to meand I would put up with it.
468
00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:26,166
And I always said,"He'll never hurt my kids,"
469
00:24:26,166 --> 00:24:31,166
but I always hadthis knot in my stomach...
470
00:24:31,867 --> 00:24:35,066
that something
was going to happen.
471
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,867
He came before a judge.
472
00:24:53,867 --> 00:24:56,166
Chad would knowexactly what to do.
473
00:24:57,266 --> 00:25:02,000
He knew that he neededto show remorse to the judge
474
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,967
and to immediatelyadmit fault and...
475
00:25:05,967 --> 00:25:09,367
check himself
into a psychiatric facility
voluntarily
476
00:25:09,367 --> 00:25:10,687
and start medication
477
00:25:10,687 --> 00:25:11,166
and start medication
478
00:25:11,166 --> 00:25:15,367
and that way it looked like
he was sincere
and getting help
479
00:25:15,367 --> 00:25:18,166
and that he was wanting
to change.
480
00:25:18,166 --> 00:25:20,734
And I knew that wasn't true.
481
00:25:22,533 --> 00:25:26,367
He started
the divorce proceedings
the next month...
482
00:25:26,367 --> 00:25:31,867
and that's where the whole
fight for custody began.
483
00:25:31,867 --> 00:25:35,166
And he said,"If you don't doexactly what I tell you to do
484
00:25:35,166 --> 00:25:37,467
in the divorce proceedings,then I'll take the kids
485
00:25:37,467 --> 00:25:39,166
and you'll neversee them again."
486
00:25:41,367 --> 00:25:42,533
Sorry.
487
00:25:51,533 --> 00:25:53,734
If he saidthat he was gonna takemy children from me
488
00:25:53,734 --> 00:25:55,800
and I was never gonna
see them again,
489
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,166
I believed that he would
make that happen.
490
00:25:58,166 --> 00:26:00,900
Even thoughI wasn't living with him,
491
00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:07,367
I still felt that fear of him
and what he could do to me.
492
00:26:07,367 --> 00:26:10,533
He was always gonna havesome rights to his children
493
00:26:10,533 --> 00:26:10,687
and he was so manipulative
in the court system
494
00:26:10,687 --> 00:26:14,166
and he was so manipulative
in the court system
495
00:26:14,166 --> 00:26:18,734
that I was afraid
that if I kept pressuring
the courts
496
00:26:18,734 --> 00:26:22,066
to make a decision onwhere they needed to stayfor the most part,
497
00:26:22,066 --> 00:26:25,467
that I would end up
swaying it his way.
498
00:26:25,467 --> 00:26:27,333
So, in a way,
I kind of just...
499
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:31,533
broke down
and gave him what he wanted
500
00:26:31,533 --> 00:26:36,533
so the children would staywith him for the school year.
501
00:26:36,533 --> 00:26:40,687
I still felt like maybe
the instance with Scott
was a one-time thing.
502
00:26:40,687 --> 00:26:41,967
I still felt like maybe
the instance with Scott
was a one-time thing.
503
00:26:41,967 --> 00:26:44,967
And I looked back
and I was like,
"You know, Jessica,
504
00:26:44,967 --> 00:26:47,467
he was never violenttowards them."
505
00:26:47,467 --> 00:26:51,467
They loved him,especially Scott.
506
00:26:52,533 --> 00:26:57,166
Scott and Chad haveso many likenesses.
507
00:26:57,166 --> 00:26:59,967
They have so many thingsin common.
508
00:26:59,967 --> 00:27:03,967
I don't think there's anything
that I could have done or said
509
00:27:03,967 --> 00:27:08,000
to break that bond with thembecause it was so tight.
510
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,687
I think, in this picture,
that Scott's emotions
in it are genuine.
511
00:27:10,687 --> 00:27:12,800
I think, in this picture,
that Scott's emotions
in it are genuine.
512
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,867
I think that Chad's isfor the camera.
513
00:27:26,634 --> 00:27:28,867
This is Scott.
514
00:27:28,867 --> 00:27:33,066
He loved to dress up
in his dad's army gear.
515
00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:34,634
It's one of my
favorite pictures.
516
00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:52,467
After our divorce,I decided that
517
00:27:52,467 --> 00:27:55,467
I was gonna stop depending on
men for my livelihood
518
00:27:55,467 --> 00:27:58,734
and that I was gonna
step up and take care
of myself.
519
00:27:58,734 --> 00:28:02,367
I can't think of anythingmore empoweringfor a woman
520
00:28:02,367 --> 00:28:04,734
than to jointhe United States Army.
521
00:28:04,734 --> 00:28:06,367
And that's what I did.
522
00:28:07,867 --> 00:28:10,687
I just had recently graduatedbasic training withthe United States Army.
523
00:28:10,687 --> 00:28:14,367
I just had recently graduatedbasic training withthe United States Army.
524
00:28:14,367 --> 00:28:17,166
I actually met Eric
through one of his friends.
525
00:28:19,266 --> 00:28:21,967
[Eric] January 1st of 2007,
526
00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:25,433
a friend of mine had gone
to a New Year's Eve party.
527
00:28:26,066 --> 00:28:27,967
I was on duty that night.
528
00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:30,166
The following afternoon,
he called me and said,
529
00:28:30,166 --> 00:28:35,367
"Hey, I met a girl.
Will you come with me?
She has a friend."
530
00:28:35,367 --> 00:28:38,367
We kind of hit it offand we liked each other a lot.
531
00:28:39,266 --> 00:28:40,687
It got serious pretty quickly.
532
00:28:40,687 --> 00:28:41,166
It got serious pretty quickly.
533
00:28:41,166 --> 00:28:43,634
[Jessica] When the kidsfirst met Eric,
534
00:28:43,634 --> 00:28:47,533
Scott was 10,Cynthia was nineand Joe was eight.
535
00:28:47,533 --> 00:28:50,533
[Eric] We went to the beach,went out and played catchon the beach.
536
00:28:50,533 --> 00:28:53,100
Their dad had never
done that with them.
537
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:56,166
The kids,throughout the years,had gone back and forth
538
00:28:56,166 --> 00:28:58,000
from Dad to us.
539
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,900
The teenage years,
in particular,
were a little bit difficult.
540
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:05,100
Their love for their fatherand what he wasconstantly telling them
541
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,266
was kind of againstall the rules
542
00:29:07,266 --> 00:29:10,687
and expectations
that we were trying to set
in our house.
543
00:29:10,687 --> 00:29:11,266
and expectations
that we were trying to set
in our house.
544
00:29:11,266 --> 00:29:16,166
We had his fathertelling Scott that he didn'thave to listen to me...
545
00:29:16,166 --> 00:29:20,333
and that caused,
you know, kind of a rift.
546
00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:25,100
So, Scott,he was very outgoing
547
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:28,467
and he lived the kind of life
where he didn't care
who was looking.
548
00:29:28,467 --> 00:29:32,734
He was the guythat everybody invitedto the party
549
00:29:32,734 --> 00:29:34,100
'cause he was gonna bring it.
550
00:29:40,166 --> 00:29:40,687
I met Chad on a few occasions.
551
00:29:40,687 --> 00:29:42,266
I met Chad on a few occasions.
552
00:29:42,266 --> 00:29:45,000
Jessica always asked me
to maintain
553
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,900
a cordial relationship
with him for the kids.
554
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:50,634
So I tried to do that.
555
00:29:50,634 --> 00:29:53,367
I will tell you that
there's not a single time...
556
00:29:54,166 --> 00:29:56,634
that I have been around
Chad Graves
557
00:29:56,634 --> 00:29:59,000
that I have not had
a gun on me, though,
558
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,634
because I do not trust
that man.
559
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:10,634
[Stacy] We actually metin the seventh or sixth grade,
560
00:30:10,634 --> 00:30:10,687
but when we gotto high school,
561
00:30:10,687 --> 00:30:12,533
but when we gotto high school,
562
00:30:12,533 --> 00:30:14,266
we kind of wentour separate ways
563
00:30:14,266 --> 00:30:17,533
until he contacted me
on Facebook.
564
00:30:17,533 --> 00:30:20,266
He's very, very charming.
565
00:30:20,266 --> 00:30:24,734
He would openthe car door for me,help me put my seatbelt on.
566
00:30:24,734 --> 00:30:26,734
Just very, very
gentleman-like.
567
00:30:29,066 --> 00:30:31,734
I was aware Chad wason medication
568
00:30:31,734 --> 00:30:35,266
a month or so, I guess,three months, maybe,after we got together.
569
00:30:35,266 --> 00:30:38,166
He told me that he had
had some issues
570
00:30:38,166 --> 00:30:40,687
with PTSD from
being in the Army
571
00:30:40,687 --> 00:30:41,166
with PTSD from
being in the Army
572
00:30:41,166 --> 00:30:47,367
'cause as far as me and him,
he had not shown
any violent side yet.
573
00:30:50,734 --> 00:30:55,867
Chad would tell me and Scottabout some of the thingshe done in the military.
574
00:30:55,867 --> 00:30:59,066
He told us
that he was a commander
on a Bradley
575
00:30:59,066 --> 00:31:04,367
and they hit an IEDand it flipped the Bradley
576
00:31:04,367 --> 00:31:08,900
and he landed on his head
and that's how he got injured
in Iraq.
577
00:31:10,367 --> 00:31:10,687
I believe Scott was16 years old when I met him.
578
00:31:10,687 --> 00:31:14,900
I believe Scott was16 years old when I met him.
579
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:19,066
Scott was very, very loyalto his daddy.
580
00:31:19,066 --> 00:31:24,467
It didn't matter
what Chad done to him,
he would always forgive him
581
00:31:24,467 --> 00:31:28,000
and hug him
and tell his daddy
that he loved him.
582
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:33,000
No matter what Chad did,he always forgave him.
583
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:44,533
[Jessica] I woke uplike it was any other day.
584
00:31:44,533 --> 00:31:47,266
I got up
and I made me some coffee.
585
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,066
And I noticed that I hada missed message on Facebook
586
00:31:53,066 --> 00:31:55,100
from someonethat I did not recognize.
587
00:31:56,533 --> 00:32:02,066
It stated, "Hello.
I'm a friend of
Chad and Stacy's
588
00:32:02,066 --> 00:32:04,467
and Stacy's trying
to reach you.
589
00:32:04,467 --> 00:32:07,734
It's an emergency.
Please call her back
at this number."
590
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:10,687
And so, immediately,my first thought was...
591
00:32:10,687 --> 00:32:13,000
And so, immediately,my first thought was...
592
00:32:14,367 --> 00:32:17,900
they've probably got intoan argumentand they've fought.
593
00:32:19,467 --> 00:32:20,900
So I called.
594
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:25,467
And as soon as Stacy
answered the phone,
I couldn't understand her.
595
00:32:25,467 --> 00:32:31,634
She was screaming and crying
and saying, over and over,
that he killed him.
596
00:32:40,367 --> 00:32:43,634
[Stacy] On August 16thof 2018...
597
00:32:43,634 --> 00:32:48,333
Scott asked his dad
if he could go
to his grandmother's house...
598
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,233
and Chad told him no...
599
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:54,533
and things escalated...
600
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,900
from there.
601
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:00,700
Chad was in the bed.
602
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:04,634
I was standing beside
the bed, talking to Chad.
603
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,700
And the next thing I knew...
604
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:14,634
Chad jumped up out of bed,
pushed Scott into a corner.
605
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,800
That's where
Chad's shotgun was.
606
00:33:22,166 --> 00:33:25,467
Scott grabbed the nozzleof the gun
607
00:33:25,467 --> 00:33:29,000
and then Chad grabbed itand that's when they startedfighting over it.
608
00:33:32,467 --> 00:33:34,600
They worked their way
into the dining room,
609
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,954
fighting over it,
wrestling over it.
610
00:33:35,954 --> 00:33:37,500
fighting over it,
wrestling over it.
611
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:41,734
From where I was standing,
I couldn't see
where Scott was...
612
00:33:41,734 --> 00:33:45,233
but Chad, I could see
and he had the shotgun...
613
00:33:45,734 --> 00:33:46,967
in his hand.
614
00:33:46,967 --> 00:33:50,600
And I said,"Put the gun down.What are you doing?"
615
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,900
And he just looked at mewith a blank look...
616
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,734
and he racked the shotgun...
617
00:33:58,867 --> 00:34:00,166
and then fired.
618
00:34:00,166 --> 00:34:01,634
[gunshot]
619
00:34:08,367 --> 00:34:09,734
[sniffs] I'm sorry.
620
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,233
[sighs shakily] I come
running out of the bedroom...
621
00:34:18,166 --> 00:34:19,533
to get to Scott...
622
00:34:20,867 --> 00:34:23,500
and Chad got in front of me
and told me,
623
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:27,333
"Don't look at him.
Don't touch him. Call 911."
624
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,433
I was in such shock.
625
00:34:36,367 --> 00:34:40,533
And then, after that,it's all...
626
00:34:41,467 --> 00:34:43,867
a blank untilthe police get there.
627
00:34:43,867 --> 00:34:45,333
[police sirens]
628
00:34:48,700 --> 00:34:52,166
[Stacy] The police took meout in the breezewayof the apartment.
629
00:34:52,166 --> 00:34:55,533
I'm in my pajamas, no shoes.
630
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,900
Chad was to the left of meand I remember them
631
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:05,100
arresting and handcuffing him,but they took meto a police car.
632
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:05,954
It's pouring rain this night.
633
00:35:05,954 --> 00:35:07,634
It's pouring rain this night.
634
00:35:09,166 --> 00:35:12,734
From there,he goes to the VA,to the mental hospital.
635
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:20,600
[Eric] I was at work.
636
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,467
It's about nine o'clockin the morning.
637
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,166
I was on a breakand Jessica called me...
638
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,867
hysterical.
639
00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:33,266
And she's screaming
into the phone,
640
00:35:33,266 --> 00:35:35,954
"He killed him. He killed him.
He killed my baby."
641
00:35:35,954 --> 00:35:37,166
"He killed him. He killed him.
He killed my baby."
642
00:35:39,467 --> 00:35:43,166
[Jessica crying]
And I prayed for Godto send him back to me
643
00:35:43,166 --> 00:35:44,634
and that he could take me.
644
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,800
And then the next thingI remember...
645
00:35:49,533 --> 00:35:51,634
was being in the front yard
on my knees
646
00:35:51,634 --> 00:35:55,700
and a police officer
from our town pulling up
to be with me
647
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:57,800
until Eric could make it.
648
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,734
And I fell onto hot asphaltand laid inthe fetal position...
649
00:36:06,367 --> 00:36:09,066
while my whole world
just fell apart.
650
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,734
I immediately knewthere was no waythat it was self defense
651
00:36:21,734 --> 00:36:27,467
because I know my sonand I know what kindof heart he had...
652
00:36:28,867 --> 00:36:33,467
and I know
how evil Chad was...
653
00:36:33,467 --> 00:36:35,954
and I knew that he wouldsay whatever he needed toto try to get out of trouble.
654
00:36:35,954 --> 00:36:39,233
and I knew that he wouldsay whatever he needed toto try to get out of trouble.
655
00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:44,867
I let fear drive me
to accept...
656
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:47,634
the custody agreement.
657
00:36:47,634 --> 00:36:50,900
And I will, to this day,for the rest of my life...
658
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,867
feel guilt...
659
00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:56,433
and anguish
over that decision.
660
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:09,800
[Stacy] They looked atall the evidence.
661
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,734
All the shotgun pelletswere in the baseboardsof the floor.
662
00:37:14,734 --> 00:37:20,266
The way the blood was pooledshowed that Scott wason the floor when he was shot.
663
00:37:20,266 --> 00:37:22,900
So he was nota threat for Chad.
664
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,100
He could haveput the gun downat any time.
665
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:31,166
Chad shot Scott likeit wasn't nothing to him.
666
00:37:31,166 --> 00:37:33,166
And I just...
I can't comprehend it.
667
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:35,954
The police arrested himon August the 29th of 2018...
668
00:37:35,954 --> 00:37:42,066
The police arrested himon August the 29th of 2018...
669
00:37:42,066 --> 00:37:45,333
at the Biloxi VA,
when he was being discharged.
670
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,166
[Jessica] With Chadbeing manipulative,
671
00:37:55,166 --> 00:37:57,467
he foundthis perfect opportunity
672
00:37:57,467 --> 00:38:00,533
to say, "Hey! You know,I have PTSD."
673
00:38:01,266 --> 00:38:05,000
But anybody that knew Chad
before he deployed
674
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,954
knew that this behavior
didn't come around
because of PTSD...
675
00:38:05,954 --> 00:38:10,467
knew that this behavior
didn't come around
because of PTSD...
676
00:38:10,467 --> 00:38:15,867
because he was abusing peopleand being violent way beforehe ever saw combat.
677
00:38:18,367 --> 00:38:22,233
And, which we later found out,
he, in fact, never saw combat.
678
00:38:25,734 --> 00:38:30,467
People don't realizethat not every jobthat you do in the military...
679
00:38:30,467 --> 00:38:35,266
puts you in harm's way
or puts you in
a combat situation.
680
00:38:35,266 --> 00:38:35,954
I contacted severalof his army buddies...
681
00:38:35,954 --> 00:38:38,100
I contacted severalof his army buddies...
682
00:38:39,166 --> 00:38:40,800
and they told me...
683
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,700
early on in his deployment,
he was deemed a liability
684
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:46,266
because of
a negligent discharge.
685
00:38:46,266 --> 00:38:50,634
They pulled him offof the frontlinesand put him behind a computer.
686
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,166
He lied about everything
that he did in the military.
687
00:39:02,734 --> 00:39:04,233
I felt betrayed.
688
00:39:05,367 --> 00:39:05,954
I believe he uses PTSDas a crutch.
689
00:39:05,954 --> 00:39:08,166
I believe he uses PTSDas a crutch.
690
00:39:09,266 --> 00:39:12,000
I mean, you don't lie
about stuff like that.
691
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:28,066
[Jessica] When I saw himwalk in, I was shockedat his appearance.
692
00:39:28,066 --> 00:39:30,000
He's aged...
693
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,533
rightfully so,
being in jail for
the last three years.
694
00:39:34,166 --> 00:39:35,954
I saw very little remorse.
695
00:39:35,954 --> 00:39:36,333
I saw very little remorse.
696
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:42,000
They told me I could have
a few moments to speak
and I took six minutes
697
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,166
to give my victim's
impact statement.
698
00:39:44,166 --> 00:39:46,867
[Jessica on laptop]
699
00:39:54,467 --> 00:39:57,900
I looked him in the face
and there was no expression,
700
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:00,166
except for the fact
when I said,
701
00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:04,500
"Scott was the only child
that loved you unconditionally
702
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:05,954
and forgave you for everything
you ever did to him."
703
00:40:05,954 --> 00:40:06,867
and forgave you for everything
you ever did to him."
704
00:40:06,867 --> 00:40:09,233
And, at that point,he shook his head "yes."
705
00:40:11,066 --> 00:40:14,266
And then they asked him
if he wanted to speak
and he said no.
706
00:40:14,266 --> 00:40:16,066
And then they sentenced him.
707
00:40:28,533 --> 00:40:32,100
The fact that he could get out
in six years consumed me.
708
00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:35,467
I kept thinking,
"What do I need to do,
709
00:40:35,467 --> 00:40:35,954
proactively as a parent,to protect my remainingchildren?
710
00:40:35,954 --> 00:40:38,800
proactively as a parent,to protect my remainingchildren?
711
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,734
How do I protect us all?"
712
00:40:42,266 --> 00:40:45,967
[Stacy] He was justa mean, evil, evil person.
713
00:40:47,266 --> 00:40:51,433
Who could do that
to their own child
and not show any remorse?
714
00:40:53,467 --> 00:40:56,734
[Eric] I, in the backof my head...
715
00:40:58,367 --> 00:40:59,734
always believed...
716
00:41:00,467 --> 00:41:01,734
that one day...
717
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,800
Chad would go too far.
718
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:05,954
But I never thoughtthat it would be oneof his kids
719
00:41:05,954 --> 00:41:10,266
But I never thoughtthat it would be oneof his kids
720
00:41:10,266 --> 00:41:14,233
and, furthermore,I never thoughtthat it would be Scott...
721
00:41:16,166 --> 00:41:23,166
the one kidthat always stood by him,always defended him.
722
00:41:25,266 --> 00:41:30,433
Chad didn't become a monsterbecause of Iraq.
723
00:41:31,867 --> 00:41:33,433
Chad was a monster...
724
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,954
from his teenage years...
725
00:41:35,954 --> 00:41:37,266
from his teenage years...
726
00:41:37,266 --> 00:41:40,233
to the point where he decidedto pull the triggeron his own son.
727
00:41:45,533 --> 00:41:46,734
For a long time...
728
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,533
I felt like
a piece of me died.
729
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:55,533
I got justice for him,to some degree.
730
00:41:56,533 --> 00:41:58,333
I was honored
to be his mother.
731
00:42:04,166 --> 00:42:05,954
The world is
really missing out
732
00:42:05,954 --> 00:42:06,533
The world is
really missing out
733
00:42:06,533 --> 00:42:08,467
with him
not being here anymore.
58210
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