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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:06,256 --> 00:00:08,341 \h 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:08,425 --> 00:00:11,469 WOMAN: I just want people to know that she's still missing. 5 00:00:11,553 --> 00:00:15,890 And, if anybody out there has a heart and they know anything 6 00:00:15,974 --> 00:00:17,851 that happened to Amanda, 7 00:00:17,934 --> 00:00:21,187 just please pick up the phone and call the police department. 8 00:00:30,321 --> 00:00:32,198 I saved a lot of things. 9 00:00:34,617 --> 00:00:36,828 And I'm not sure why. 10 00:00:39,956 --> 00:00:42,709 I can't believe that I'm sitting here talking about it. 11 00:00:44,502 --> 00:00:46,671 Oh, God, I shouldn't say this. 12 00:00:46,755 --> 00:00:50,133 NEWSREADER: Amanda disappeared on her way home after leaving her job 13 00:00:50,216 --> 00:00:52,761 at Burger King on West 100th, 10th and Lorraine, 14 00:00:52,844 --> 00:00:55,180 a day before her 17th birthday. 15 00:00:58,266 --> 00:01:00,435 I just need to know. It's killing me. 16 00:01:00,518 --> 00:01:03,021 I need to find out what happened with my daughter. 17 00:01:03,104 --> 00:01:04,856 That story, sure, 18 00:01:04,939 --> 00:01:08,068 it was probably the most important story of my whole career. 19 00:01:08,151 --> 00:01:11,571 Welcome back, everyone. Cleveland Police are asking for your help 20 00:01:11,654 --> 00:01:13,531 to find a missing 14-year-old girl. 21 00:01:13,615 --> 00:01:15,909 Her name is Georgina DeJesus. 22 00:01:15,992 --> 00:01:18,703 She's been missing since after school yesterday. 23 00:01:18,787 --> 00:01:23,375 I wanted to know what kind of evil would do something like this. 24 00:01:24,793 --> 00:01:27,128 Can I tell this story? I don't think I should. 25 00:01:28,713 --> 00:01:32,258 Cleveland Police detectives and now 15 FBI agents 26 00:01:32,342 --> 00:01:35,512 aggressively working this mysterious disappearance. 27 00:01:36,805 --> 00:01:40,684 Amanda Berry vanished, seemingly into thin air. 28 00:01:40,767 --> 00:01:42,852 It's a life and death thing. 29 00:01:44,688 --> 00:01:47,691 Whoever got 'em, let these two children go home. 30 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:53,530 I had no idea that evil could be so... 31 00:01:55,657 --> 00:01:57,742 ..close. 32 00:02:26,730 --> 00:02:29,024 Mark. My name's Bill Safos. 33 00:02:31,109 --> 00:02:34,404 I was a television reporter for 34 00:02:34,487 --> 00:02:36,990 many, many years. 33 years, maybe. 35 00:02:37,073 --> 00:02:42,412 When my family emigrated to the US from Greece, I was the youngest. 36 00:02:44,581 --> 00:02:46,249 We bought our first TV. 37 00:02:46,332 --> 00:02:49,294 I remember, you know, my brother and I were so excited. 38 00:02:50,378 --> 00:02:54,257 And my brother wanted cartoons and things that kids watch. 39 00:02:55,925 --> 00:02:59,929 But then I got used to watching the news and trying to figure out 40 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:03,767 what they were saying and I learned to speak English and I translated. 41 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:06,102 I told my dad what was happening. 42 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:10,190 Back then, Ohio State had a great journalism programme, 43 00:03:10,273 --> 00:03:12,233 and that's where I wanted to go 44 00:03:12,317 --> 00:03:16,613 and I ended up getting a job at the NBC station there in Columbus. 45 00:03:16,696 --> 00:03:20,033 Take a look at Court Street today. Things pretty much back to normal. 46 00:03:20,116 --> 00:03:21,993 You can see most of the shops are open, 47 00:03:22,077 --> 00:03:23,912 everything as a matter of fact is open. 48 00:03:23,995 --> 00:03:26,956 'You know, I never wanted to sit in the TV station all day long.' 49 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,876 They toppled buildings and destroyed lives 50 00:03:29,959 --> 00:03:33,296 and, at the same time, they strengthened the American spirit. 51 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:35,048 We have, joining us... 52 00:03:35,131 --> 00:03:38,718 'I wanted to go out and meet people and do different things every day.' 53 00:03:38,802 --> 00:03:41,179 I just loved doing it. 54 00:03:41,262 --> 00:03:43,348 Until... 55 00:03:45,642 --> 00:03:47,727 ..the day I met Louwana Miller. 56 00:03:55,568 --> 00:03:59,572 I remember sitting in the newsroom and I saw these people, you know, 57 00:03:59,656 --> 00:04:02,617 we'd get a lot of people coming into the TV station. 58 00:04:02,701 --> 00:04:05,078 So there's people coming and going all day long. 59 00:04:05,161 --> 00:04:07,831 But some, for some reason, they caught my eye. 60 00:04:11,001 --> 00:04:13,294 And I said, "Hey, who are those people? 61 00:04:13,378 --> 00:04:16,506 What's their deal?" And the receptionist is, like, 62 00:04:16,589 --> 00:04:19,551 "Oh, it's a mom whose daughter is missing." 63 00:04:21,344 --> 00:04:25,682 And right away, within the first few minutes, 64 00:04:25,765 --> 00:04:27,559 I knew it was the real deal. 65 00:04:29,019 --> 00:04:32,355 That when Louwana's daughter, Amanda, didn't come home, 66 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:34,232 that something was wrong. 67 00:04:35,608 --> 00:04:38,445 Somebody has this kid and we gotta do something now. 68 00:05:06,973 --> 00:05:09,267 Amanda worked at Burger King. 69 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:15,065 And Louwana told me Amanda never liked to walk home. 70 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:17,275 It isn't the best of neighbourhoods, 71 00:05:17,359 --> 00:05:21,196 so Louwana said she always got a ride home 72 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,365 or we would tell her to wait. 73 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:26,117 But that night, they were on the phone together 74 00:05:26,201 --> 00:05:29,329 and Amanda says, "I have a ride." 75 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,798 She kept saying, "Amanda would have never got in a car with a stranger. 76 00:05:39,881 --> 00:05:41,549 That was her big thing. 77 00:05:41,633 --> 00:05:44,260 "She would have never got in a car with a stranger." 78 00:05:54,521 --> 00:05:56,272 And I know she didn't run away, 79 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:59,109 because she had a good life at home. 80 00:05:59,192 --> 00:06:01,069 I can't see nothing. 81 00:06:01,152 --> 00:06:03,029 You have to do this. 82 00:06:03,113 --> 00:06:05,281 I don't know how to do it. 83 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:07,242 Just in case? 84 00:06:07,325 --> 00:06:09,077 He's waiting too. 85 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,579 Yeah. (LAUGHS) Take it back. 86 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:13,748 (LAUGHS) What? 87 00:06:13,832 --> 00:06:16,126 (INDISTINCT CHATTER CONTINUES) 88 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:18,712 I was 12 years old, it was 2003, 89 00:06:18,795 --> 00:06:20,880 when she came up missing. 90 00:06:23,133 --> 00:06:24,926 I looked up to her. 91 00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:30,849 In school, she was, like, as far as I know, 92 00:06:30,932 --> 00:06:32,600 she was a straight A student. 93 00:06:34,269 --> 00:06:36,229 And she would tutor me sometimes, 94 00:06:36,312 --> 00:06:38,398 you know, with math and stuff like that. 95 00:06:38,481 --> 00:06:40,650 I would always hang out in her bedroom 96 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:44,779 and play Super Nintendo in her Play Station. 97 00:06:46,197 --> 00:06:50,660 She loved to write music and R&B, and she loved shoes. 98 00:06:50,744 --> 00:06:52,662 She loved, like, name brand stuff, 99 00:06:52,746 --> 00:06:55,957 like, you know, just anything name brand. 100 00:07:01,713 --> 00:07:04,674 I just keep hoping that 101 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:06,426 she's out there somewhere 102 00:07:06,509 --> 00:07:08,386 and she'll come home. 103 00:07:08,470 --> 00:07:12,349 Amanda Berry's mother has spent days wandering about 104 00:07:12,432 --> 00:07:15,560 and searching for her 17-year-old daughter. 105 00:07:15,643 --> 00:07:17,729 Trying to hang in there. 106 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:22,942 She held my feet to the fire. She wanted it in every newscast. 107 00:07:23,026 --> 00:07:26,154 "I wanna see Mandy on the news, I want her picture... 108 00:07:26,237 --> 00:07:29,324 I want people to, you know... Cos somebody saw something. 109 00:07:29,407 --> 00:07:32,410 Somebody knows something, so put her picture on TV. 110 00:07:32,494 --> 00:07:34,287 Help me. Please, help me." 111 00:07:35,663 --> 00:07:37,957 I want my daughter home, man, 112 00:07:38,041 --> 00:07:40,293 and if she can't come home, 113 00:07:40,377 --> 00:07:42,545 I just wanna know where she's at. 114 00:07:42,921 --> 00:07:45,465 Most people thought she ran away... 115 00:07:46,716 --> 00:07:49,177 ..even the police officer that came that night. 116 00:07:49,260 --> 00:07:52,263 So, it took a while before they, you know, 117 00:07:52,347 --> 00:07:54,516 "Hey, maybe something happened here." 118 00:08:04,317 --> 00:08:06,820 This wasn't your typical missing person case. 119 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:10,990 There was no crime scene, there was no witnesses. 120 00:08:12,325 --> 00:08:15,745 So detectives went out and started, well, they talked to the family, 121 00:08:15,829 --> 00:08:19,082 talked to the people at Burger King. 122 00:08:21,918 --> 00:08:24,629 They talked to friends, schoolmates, 123 00:08:24,713 --> 00:08:28,883 and just tried to get as much information as they could. 124 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:38,226 There were a lot of tips that you have to disprove and run 'em down. 125 00:08:43,857 --> 00:08:46,192 There was just nothing to 'em. 126 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,205 Louwana Miller sits by the phone. 127 00:08:59,289 --> 00:09:01,750 It rings often, but it's never the call she wants. 128 00:09:01,833 --> 00:09:05,128 But tonight, Cleveland FBI says a phone call to Amanda's mother 129 00:09:05,211 --> 00:09:08,715 one week after her daughter's disappearance may hold the key. 130 00:09:08,798 --> 00:09:13,511 I get a phone call and it's an unknown male 131 00:09:13,595 --> 00:09:17,182 who just says that Mandy's with him and she's all right. 132 00:09:21,144 --> 00:09:24,022 So I just kept him on the phone for as long as I could, 133 00:09:24,105 --> 00:09:27,359 to see if I could hear maybe my daughter in the background. 134 00:09:27,442 --> 00:09:29,819 And then what? Then he hangs up. 135 00:09:38,828 --> 00:09:41,122 When the phone call happened, 136 00:09:41,206 --> 00:09:43,083 Louwana called me and told me about it. 137 00:09:43,166 --> 00:09:45,377 She's, like, "You're not gonna believe this. 138 00:09:45,460 --> 00:09:48,296 I got a phone call," she said, "from the guy that has Mandy." 139 00:09:48,380 --> 00:09:51,591 He told me not to worry about her and she's fine. 140 00:09:51,675 --> 00:09:54,052 But he called me from her cell phone. 141 00:09:55,512 --> 00:09:57,972 I remember telling her, "Well, that's great, 142 00:09:58,056 --> 00:10:01,434 because the FBI's gonna be able to figure out where he is." 143 00:10:02,686 --> 00:10:04,771 They can track that stuff. 144 00:10:04,854 --> 00:10:07,399 FBI got the Chronicle people involved 145 00:10:07,482 --> 00:10:11,236 and were using equipment that I didn't know existed. 146 00:10:12,445 --> 00:10:15,699 We believed that call bounced off one particular tower. 147 00:10:16,991 --> 00:10:19,285 So what we did was, we went for that tower 148 00:10:19,369 --> 00:10:22,455 and we drew a slice of the pie, like this. 149 00:10:22,539 --> 00:10:25,709 And went and knocked at every door, interviewed every person, 150 00:10:25,792 --> 00:10:28,294 searched every vacant cemetery. 151 00:10:29,671 --> 00:10:34,259 It gave me hope that, you know what? She's alive. 152 00:10:34,342 --> 00:10:37,887 She's in a house, an apartment or location somewhere, 153 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:41,307 and that there's a chance that we will find her. 154 00:10:47,731 --> 00:10:51,776 When Louwana found out the tower that that cell phone call hit, 155 00:10:51,860 --> 00:10:56,031 she was...obsessed. 156 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:03,038 We went there, saw the tower, we were in that neighbourhood. 157 00:11:07,584 --> 00:11:10,628 Louwana told me, "I feel my daughter, Bill. 158 00:11:10,712 --> 00:11:14,090 I know she's alive and she's somewhere close to me." 159 00:11:14,174 --> 00:11:16,968 And she was so right. She was so right. 160 00:11:22,432 --> 00:11:26,311 And it's so crazy that we were so close. 161 00:11:31,316 --> 00:11:33,401 (LATIN DANCE MUSIC) 162 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:44,746 (HORN HONKS) MAN: Hey! 163 00:11:44,829 --> 00:11:46,915 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 164 00:11:46,998 --> 00:11:49,084 (MUSIC CONTINUES) 165 00:11:53,338 --> 00:11:55,423 I grew up around here as a kid, 166 00:11:55,507 --> 00:12:01,179 pretty much my whole life, until when I graduated. 167 00:12:01,262 --> 00:12:04,182 My high school was right down the street there. 168 00:12:04,265 --> 00:12:07,811 And this was a very, very tight-knit 169 00:12:07,894 --> 00:12:10,689 predominantly Puerto Rican neighbourhood. 170 00:12:10,772 --> 00:12:13,983 So everyone pretty much knew each other, 171 00:12:14,067 --> 00:12:17,904 everybody hung out with each other. The families all knew each other. 172 00:12:17,987 --> 00:12:22,867 And it was a great place to grow up in. 173 00:12:22,951 --> 00:12:25,370 We all pretty much had each other here. 174 00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:31,626 The Castro family was one of the first families 175 00:12:31,710 --> 00:12:34,629 to come from Puerto Rico into Cleveland. 176 00:12:34,713 --> 00:12:37,298 They were well-known. 177 00:12:37,382 --> 00:12:41,428 Cessi Castro, I have nothing but the utmost respect for him. 178 00:12:41,511 --> 00:12:44,347 He was almost like a father to my father. 179 00:12:44,431 --> 00:12:46,182 And I literally grew up 180 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:48,059 in that store that he owned. 181 00:12:51,813 --> 00:12:54,649 So this is Cessi's store, was Cessi's store. 182 00:12:54,733 --> 00:12:58,153 That's where we would meet for our Christmas parties. 183 00:12:58,236 --> 00:13:02,240 We'd go back there, play music and everybody hung out with each other. 184 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:09,998 Cessi Castro was Ariel Castro's uncle. 185 00:13:10,081 --> 00:13:12,625 Ariel Castro lived literally down the street. 186 00:13:12,709 --> 00:13:16,713 I mean, from the corner store to where his house was, 187 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:18,506 I think it's half a block. 188 00:13:28,516 --> 00:13:31,936 I'm sitting on this front porch every day and I'm looking. 189 00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:34,272 Puerto Rican dude across the street. 190 00:13:34,356 --> 00:13:37,150 I said, I said, "Look, sit right here, let me talk to you." 191 00:13:39,402 --> 00:13:41,488 "This dude next door, what's his name?" 192 00:13:41,571 --> 00:13:44,324 "Ariel." "Why is his house boarded up?" 193 00:13:49,412 --> 00:13:51,790 I don't see no air conditioning unit. 194 00:13:51,873 --> 00:13:53,958 it's gotta be stifling in that house. 195 00:13:54,042 --> 00:13:56,127 I'm outside dying right now, right. 196 00:13:56,211 --> 00:13:59,172 He's like, "He's Puerto Rican." "Well, you're Puerto Rican." 197 00:13:59,255 --> 00:14:01,383 I go, "I see your mother got Central Air. 198 00:14:01,466 --> 00:14:04,886 Why is that house boarded up?" "You ask too many questions." 199 00:14:06,262 --> 00:14:08,348 "Is that right?" 200 00:14:09,683 --> 00:14:12,727 I want to know why he lived that way. 201 00:14:14,187 --> 00:14:16,481 It was something about him that captivated me, 202 00:14:16,564 --> 00:14:18,274 but I couldn't put my finger on it. 203 00:14:34,833 --> 00:14:38,003 Tattered fliers are all that's left to remind us 204 00:14:38,086 --> 00:14:41,089 that Amanda Berry vanished almost six months ago. 205 00:14:41,172 --> 00:14:44,009 I just want people to know that she's still missing. 206 00:14:44,092 --> 00:14:46,302 If anybody out there has a heart, 207 00:14:46,386 --> 00:14:48,054 and they know anything 208 00:14:48,138 --> 00:14:49,806 that happened to Amanda, 209 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:54,227 just please pick up the phone and call the police department. 210 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:56,021 Louwana was just very upset. 211 00:14:57,147 --> 00:15:01,276 I mean, she would see on the news a dog missing 212 00:15:01,359 --> 00:15:04,487 and she got very upset that 213 00:15:04,571 --> 00:15:09,826 the dog got that much time on the news and Amanda didn't. 214 00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:11,703 I'll never forget that. 215 00:15:11,786 --> 00:15:14,497 She even called up all the stations. 216 00:15:14,581 --> 00:15:17,667 She did everything. She was very upset with that. 217 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:19,461 I told them that I would fight 218 00:15:19,544 --> 00:15:24,549 and try and put Mandy's picture on the air as much as I can. 219 00:15:24,632 --> 00:15:28,887 But if she didn't see her daughter's picture on the 11 o'clock news, 220 00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:33,516 at 11:30, my phone was ringing and she'd be like, 221 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:38,396 "Bill, why wasn't Mandy's picture on the news?" 222 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,941 And she would, like, scream and yell 223 00:15:42,025 --> 00:15:46,279 but, in the middle of all this sobbing, 224 00:15:46,363 --> 00:15:50,158 crying, it was just like... (SIGHS) 225 00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:55,955 So, I let her, for the next, you know, three hours, 226 00:15:56,039 --> 00:15:59,084 you know, I'd put the phone on my pillow 227 00:15:59,167 --> 00:16:02,962 and eventually I would fall asleep and she'd still be screaming at me. 228 00:16:03,046 --> 00:16:05,715 But, um, and then I'd wake up, you know, 229 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:08,635 to go to work at 3:00am to do the morning show 230 00:16:08,718 --> 00:16:10,804 and she'd still be on the phone. 231 00:16:10,887 --> 00:16:13,306 I'd be like, "OK, I gotta get to work." 232 00:16:16,935 --> 00:16:19,354 If anybody knows anything about my daughter... 233 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,357 ..I wish somebody would come forward, 234 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,943 cos somebody out there knows something. 235 00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:30,240 After the story and the case started to get cold, 236 00:16:30,323 --> 00:16:34,452 Louwana, like any parent who never got to see their kid again 237 00:16:34,536 --> 00:16:36,621 would get frustrated and worried 238 00:16:36,705 --> 00:16:42,002 and think that police and the FBI aren't doing enough. 239 00:16:44,796 --> 00:16:49,175 So, Louwana arranged for the FBI to come to her house. 240 00:16:52,012 --> 00:16:56,558 I was in the living room when he got there and I'm like, 241 00:16:56,641 --> 00:16:59,769 "Oh, my God, Louwana, I'm leaving. 242 00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:01,771 I'll call you. Call me when he leaves." 243 00:17:01,855 --> 00:17:04,065 "No, Bill, you're not leaving." 244 00:17:04,149 --> 00:17:08,236 And her friend was there too and they pushed me in the bedroom 245 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:12,490 and she's like, "Lay on the floor." 246 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:16,911 And then she took the bedspread from the bed 247 00:17:16,995 --> 00:17:19,372 and just kind of like covered me up. 248 00:17:20,790 --> 00:17:24,252 And the two of 'em went onto the living room and this FBI agent's, 249 00:17:24,336 --> 00:17:28,548 you know, discussing all kinds of things that definitely are interesting. 250 00:17:28,631 --> 00:17:30,717 I wish I had a notepad. 251 00:17:31,843 --> 00:17:36,389 But they must have had a list there and they were going down, 252 00:17:36,473 --> 00:17:39,309 talking about people of interest. 253 00:17:40,435 --> 00:17:43,188 You know, who might end up being suspects, or whatever. 254 00:17:43,271 --> 00:17:47,525 Well, next thing I know, her friend brought it into me and was like, 255 00:17:47,609 --> 00:17:53,656 "Here." I'm like, "You guys did not just take that from an FBI agent!" 256 00:17:55,867 --> 00:17:59,120 And I'm like, "Oh, my God, they're gonna get me in trouble 257 00:17:59,204 --> 00:18:01,998 for interfering with this guy's official business." 258 00:18:03,958 --> 00:18:09,130 And, um... But, of course, I was like, I'm like, looking. 259 00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:14,803 And that's the list that Louwana and I started looking at 260 00:18:14,886 --> 00:18:17,180 and those are the people we started spying on, 261 00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:19,432 doing our own surveillance. 262 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:24,604 There were all sorts of people, 263 00:18:24,688 --> 00:18:29,359 there were sex offenders in the neighbourhood, drug dealers... 264 00:18:31,528 --> 00:18:35,782 After going through that whole list, she wasn't satisfied, 265 00:18:35,865 --> 00:18:41,705 but she wasn't as upset that they weren't finding anything, 266 00:18:41,788 --> 00:18:44,207 because we weren't finding anything either. 267 00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:47,627 Thank you all very much for being here. I appreciate it. 268 00:18:49,838 --> 00:18:53,216 She was determined to get her daughter home. No, she didn't care. 269 00:18:53,299 --> 00:18:57,262 She thought they weren't gonna do it, she was gonna do it herself. 270 00:18:57,345 --> 00:18:59,639 And, um... 271 00:19:00,765 --> 00:19:04,310 If she wasn't gonna do it herself, she was gonna make me do it. 272 00:19:04,394 --> 00:19:07,605 But, uh, and somehow, I listened to her, 273 00:19:07,689 --> 00:19:11,276 because it was the right thing to do. 274 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,321 Not the right thing here, but the right thing here, it was. It was. 275 00:19:17,449 --> 00:19:21,327 She could rely on him for everything, always. 276 00:19:21,411 --> 00:19:24,581 And so, she goes, "Let's go shop." And I said, "OK", I said, 277 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,583 "What do you wanna do?" She goes, 278 00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:30,795 "I wanna buy Bill a nice shirt and tie." 279 00:19:32,881 --> 00:19:37,093 She's like, "It's a blue shirt and a tie and I want you to wear it, 280 00:19:37,177 --> 00:19:39,346 the day Mandy comes home." 281 00:19:42,265 --> 00:19:44,351 And I said, "OK." 282 00:19:52,192 --> 00:19:54,277 (NEWS JINGLE) 283 00:19:56,780 --> 00:19:58,490 Welcome back, everyone. 284 00:19:58,573 --> 00:20:01,159 Cleveland Police are asking for your help tonight, 285 00:20:01,242 --> 00:20:03,328 to find a missing 14-year-old girl. 286 00:20:03,411 --> 00:20:06,664 Here is her picture. Her name is Georgina DeJesus. 287 00:20:06,748 --> 00:20:09,042 The teen's family says she's been missing 288 00:20:09,125 --> 00:20:11,711 since after school yesterday and does not... 289 00:20:11,795 --> 00:20:15,632 I was shocked, it was another girl, the same neighbourhood, 290 00:20:15,715 --> 00:20:21,721 the same body type, it just seemed like the same story. 291 00:20:21,805 --> 00:20:25,058 But exactly almost to the day, a year later. 292 00:20:31,773 --> 00:20:33,942 She does not have a history of running away. 293 00:20:34,025 --> 00:20:35,694 She goes by the name Gina. 294 00:20:35,777 --> 00:20:38,238 Please call Cleveland Police, if you've seen her. 295 00:20:38,321 --> 00:20:42,033 Right away, I just got this horrible feeling that... 296 00:20:44,452 --> 00:20:48,289 ..this might be related to Amanda. 297 00:20:58,508 --> 00:21:03,054 It started out as a beautiful day for me, you know, same routine. 298 00:21:03,138 --> 00:21:07,142 I woke up, I gave her a hug and a kiss, told her I loved her, 299 00:21:07,225 --> 00:21:11,730 she left with her father that took her to school in the morning. 300 00:21:13,857 --> 00:21:18,194 At 2:30, three o'clock, she didn't come home. 301 00:21:18,278 --> 00:21:20,739 So I was, "Wait a minute, let me give her 30 minutes, 302 00:21:20,822 --> 00:21:22,574 cos maybe she stopped. 303 00:21:22,657 --> 00:21:25,493 She's probably joking around with the other kids and that," 304 00:21:25,577 --> 00:21:27,746 which would be a normal routine for her. 305 00:21:27,829 --> 00:21:30,749 But, when I noticed 30 minutes went by, 306 00:21:30,832 --> 00:21:32,792 that's when I got really worried, 307 00:21:32,876 --> 00:21:34,961 because she should have had been home. 308 00:21:38,006 --> 00:21:40,300 My mom was like, "There's something going on." 309 00:21:40,383 --> 00:21:43,762 "Mom, what are you talking about?" She's like, "Gina isn't home yet." 310 00:21:43,845 --> 00:21:46,473 I'm like, "She probably went to her friend's house." 311 00:21:46,556 --> 00:21:49,517 "No, it's too late, I've called her friends. 312 00:21:49,601 --> 00:21:51,686 No-one has seen her. 313 00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:53,855 Mayra, something's wrong." 314 00:21:57,650 --> 00:22:01,780 I drove back to the school, I must have searched 315 00:22:01,863 --> 00:22:05,200 for at least a good hour. 316 00:22:05,283 --> 00:22:09,245 Didn't see nothing. Nobody's around. 317 00:22:09,329 --> 00:22:13,124 Got back in the car, went back to the house. 318 00:22:13,208 --> 00:22:18,755 Right there and then I started feeling Gina's in a lot of trouble. 319 00:22:22,342 --> 00:22:25,970 Another emotional day, as a family hopes for the safe return of 320 00:22:26,054 --> 00:22:28,014 their 14-year-old daughter. 321 00:22:28,098 --> 00:22:31,976 Searching for Gina, after she disappears without a trace. 322 00:22:34,270 --> 00:22:36,815 You know, she left school, she walked to her friend, 323 00:22:36,898 --> 00:22:40,068 they wanted to have a sleepover, 324 00:22:40,151 --> 00:22:43,029 at least get together after school, they went to a pay phone. 325 00:22:43,113 --> 00:22:44,781 The friend left. 326 00:22:44,864 --> 00:22:47,575 And Gina was last seen walking eastbound on Lorraine. 327 00:22:47,659 --> 00:22:49,452 That's what we knew. 328 00:22:49,536 --> 00:22:52,747 We went over the area, there's cameras everywhere. 329 00:22:52,831 --> 00:22:55,250 Closed down all four streets 330 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:57,419 of that whole area on Fitz and Lorraine, 331 00:22:57,502 --> 00:22:59,587 which is kind of a big, busy area. 332 00:22:59,671 --> 00:23:01,631 And then let the dog do his thing, 333 00:23:01,715 --> 00:23:05,301 and the dog went to the pay phone in the exact location, 334 00:23:05,385 --> 00:23:10,724 where we knew she last was and nothing after that. 335 00:23:10,807 --> 00:23:13,184 Hundreds of people, including Gina's family, 336 00:23:13,268 --> 00:23:16,730 met at this phone booth on West 105th and Lorraine Avenue, 337 00:23:16,813 --> 00:23:18,940 for a candlelight vigil and prayer. 338 00:23:19,024 --> 00:23:22,027 This is the last place Gina was seen on Friday. 339 00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:25,613 Her friend, Arlene Castro, was with her before they parted ways. 340 00:23:25,697 --> 00:23:28,616 The last thing she said to me was, "You owe me 50 cents." 341 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:33,913 Felix, her father, got the rest of my children together 342 00:23:33,997 --> 00:23:36,666 and two of my nephews, part of his family. 343 00:23:36,750 --> 00:23:42,088 They were literally looking into dumpsters for my daughter. 344 00:23:44,716 --> 00:23:49,095 Didn't sleep, didn't eat. 345 00:23:49,179 --> 00:23:51,264 I wasn't thinking of none of that. 346 00:23:51,348 --> 00:23:55,810 My days went where I wanted to get and find my daughter. 347 00:23:55,894 --> 00:23:58,438 I wanted my daughter home. 348 00:24:00,148 --> 00:24:01,816 Oh! 349 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:03,777 (LAUGHS) 350 00:24:03,860 --> 00:24:05,737 Oh, yeah. 351 00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:08,323 I think I didn't do my job very well. 352 00:24:08,406 --> 00:24:10,367 This is for who? 353 00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:12,410 As a protector, 354 00:24:12,494 --> 00:24:17,749 I put it on my fault that this happened to my child. 355 00:24:17,832 --> 00:24:22,253 I felt that I, right there and then, that I have failed. 356 00:24:30,762 --> 00:24:34,474 I'm sitting in the editorial meetings and somebody said, 357 00:24:34,557 --> 00:24:37,477 "Oh, there's another missing girl. Who wants to cover it?" 358 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,771 This one is on the west side of Cleveland. 359 00:24:39,854 --> 00:24:41,940 They gave a little bit of background on it 360 00:24:42,023 --> 00:24:44,567 and then they said her name was "Gina DeJesus". 361 00:24:44,651 --> 00:24:48,279 "Hm, that sounds Puerto Rican." So I say, "Hey, I'll take the story," 362 00:24:48,363 --> 00:24:52,784 because I felt that me being Puerto Rican would maybe help them 363 00:24:52,867 --> 00:24:55,912 feel a little bit more comfortable. 364 00:24:55,995 --> 00:25:00,125 So I went over, and Nancy does the interview and she goes, 365 00:25:00,208 --> 00:25:02,210 "My daughter did not run away." 366 00:25:02,293 --> 00:25:04,254 I said, "What? Are you sure?" 367 00:25:04,337 --> 00:25:09,092 She goes, "Yeah. Why would she run away?" She had no issues with us. 368 00:25:09,175 --> 00:25:12,595 There's no way my daughter ran away." 369 00:25:13,763 --> 00:25:18,351 In my heart, I know she's still out there and, in my heart, 370 00:25:18,435 --> 00:25:22,439 I think, maybe, going with the mother's intuition... 371 00:25:23,565 --> 00:25:25,734 ..I couldn't feel her being gone. 372 00:25:29,487 --> 00:25:33,158 I would tell Nancy, like, "Are you sure she's not dead?" 373 00:25:33,241 --> 00:25:38,163 She goes, "Nope, my daughter's not dead. I know my daughter's alive. 374 00:25:38,246 --> 00:25:40,623 I would feel it if my daughter was dead. 375 00:25:40,707 --> 00:25:42,834 Somebody has her. Somebody has her." 376 00:25:46,463 --> 00:25:50,008 And we still have the hope that she is gonna walk through our door. 377 00:25:50,091 --> 00:25:54,262 If by chance, if she can see this, I just tell her, 378 00:25:54,346 --> 00:25:57,057 just to keep her faith 379 00:25:57,140 --> 00:26:00,268 and that we will find her and she will be coming home. 380 00:26:03,730 --> 00:26:06,983 I watched the news to see my parents on there. 381 00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:15,325 My name is Janet DeJesus. 382 00:26:16,576 --> 00:26:20,205 My mom and dad's named Nancy and Felix. 383 00:26:21,790 --> 00:26:23,958 It helped, seeing my parents on TV, 384 00:26:24,042 --> 00:26:28,755 so I would cry sometimes 385 00:26:28,838 --> 00:26:31,508 and then I'd be like, 386 00:26:31,591 --> 00:26:33,802 "They're still out there." 387 00:26:33,885 --> 00:26:39,057 It gave me hope and I think that's what really kept me going. 388 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,323 That day, I'd get up like a normal day. 389 00:26:57,242 --> 00:27:03,123 School was let out at, like, 2:30, and I had my bus money, 390 00:27:03,206 --> 00:27:08,211 but sometimes I liked to just walk home with my friends. 391 00:27:10,213 --> 00:27:13,049 And I was like, "You wanna come over and hang out?" 392 00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:15,010 She's like, "I have to call my mom." 393 00:27:15,093 --> 00:27:18,596 So I gave her 50 cents to call her mom 394 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,266 and she asked her mom and she said no. 395 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,270 And she went one way, I went the opposite way. 396 00:27:30,608 --> 00:27:34,029 Her dad was, I guess, watching us 397 00:27:34,112 --> 00:27:38,491 and he looked up and asked me if I'd seen his daughter. 398 00:27:39,784 --> 00:27:43,121 He asked me if I'd help him find her and I said, "OK." 399 00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:49,753 I finally got a little nervous, cos he didn't turn around, 400 00:27:49,836 --> 00:27:53,298 but then he said, he needed to get something from his house. 401 00:27:54,466 --> 00:27:58,762 I was like, "OK." And I was like, I guess in my own way, 402 00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:04,225 tried to convince myself that, "No, I know him, he's my friend's dad. 403 00:28:07,354 --> 00:28:09,439 He knows my parents." 404 00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:11,608 So I didn't really think nothing of it. 405 00:28:17,739 --> 00:28:21,868 Well, he asked me to help him bring out the speaker 406 00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:24,704 and he just closed the door. 407 00:28:28,166 --> 00:28:33,213 Turned out to be the basement and he told me that I couldn't go home. 408 00:28:37,175 --> 00:28:41,262 My own thing was to try to get out of the house 409 00:28:41,346 --> 00:28:43,848 and get back home to my parents. 410 00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:49,854 And I was trying to figure out how to like, undo the lock, 411 00:28:49,938 --> 00:28:54,192 but I couldn't, because my hands was tied and my mouth was taped. 412 00:28:59,239 --> 00:29:02,784 I don't wanna talk about what he did to me. 413 00:29:09,082 --> 00:29:11,751 I don't wanna go there. 414 00:29:19,592 --> 00:29:21,928 Tomorrow night at 9:00pm, 415 00:29:22,012 --> 00:29:25,932 the entire nation will get a chance to join the hunt for Gina DeJesus. 416 00:29:26,016 --> 00:29:28,935 The 14-year-old's disappearance will be featured on 417 00:29:29,019 --> 00:29:31,021 Fox's America's Most Wanted. 418 00:29:31,104 --> 00:29:34,065 Meanwhile, local law enforcement authorities and the FBI 419 00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:37,152 continue to search for signs of the teen. 420 00:29:37,235 --> 00:29:39,988 It was bad, but it went from bad to worse, 421 00:29:40,071 --> 00:29:42,574 because you're also dealing... 422 00:29:42,657 --> 00:29:46,953 You're only human and you're also dealing with your own community 423 00:29:47,037 --> 00:29:50,582 and, you know, when you go to church or go to the store, 424 00:29:50,665 --> 00:29:52,959 you see that sign up and you're like, 425 00:29:53,043 --> 00:29:55,420 "What happened? What's going on?" 426 00:29:55,503 --> 00:30:00,508 So it... Not only as a policeman, you have to do your job, 427 00:30:00,592 --> 00:30:04,596 but now you're dealing with somebody from your community. 428 00:30:04,679 --> 00:30:08,183 Literally, I mean, I knew her father Felix many years 429 00:30:08,266 --> 00:30:10,352 and, um... 430 00:30:10,435 --> 00:30:14,481 Yeah, it takes more of a toll on you as a person from the community. 431 00:30:14,564 --> 00:30:18,026 It doesn't mean another policeman from another city doesn't care, 432 00:30:18,109 --> 00:30:21,654 what I'm saying is you're dealing with somebody from your community. 433 00:30:21,738 --> 00:30:23,907 From your nationality. Your people. 434 00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:27,077 And it takes major... It takes a major toll on you, 435 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,912 mentally and physically. 436 00:30:30,246 --> 00:30:32,332 At first, I didn't make the connection 437 00:30:32,415 --> 00:30:34,292 between the two missing girls, 438 00:30:34,376 --> 00:30:39,464 and it was Bill who made the connection between Amanda and Gina. 439 00:30:39,547 --> 00:30:42,300 He goes, "Lydia, I'm telling you now, 440 00:30:42,384 --> 00:30:45,178 these two cases are connected." 441 00:30:45,261 --> 00:30:48,598 I said, "How do you know?" He goes, "I don't know, it's just a feeling. 442 00:30:48,682 --> 00:30:51,393 I just think they're connected." 443 00:30:52,602 --> 00:30:55,605 I kept asking the police, "Did you connect the cases?" 444 00:30:55,689 --> 00:30:58,400 I kept asking the FBI, "Are the cases connected?" 445 00:30:58,483 --> 00:31:00,694 "No, no, we can't connect them. 446 00:31:00,777 --> 00:31:03,446 You know, we can't connect them officially." 447 00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:05,407 I thought, well, we gotta, you know... 448 00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:08,451 "If the police aren't gonna connect the stories and talk about 449 00:31:08,535 --> 00:31:10,870 the similarities, we have to point them out." 450 00:31:11,996 --> 00:31:14,833 I said, "I think we should introduce the two families. 451 00:31:14,916 --> 00:31:17,544 I think they would like to meet." 452 00:31:17,627 --> 00:31:20,839 Oh, my God, I don't know what to say to you, 453 00:31:20,922 --> 00:31:23,008 because I've waited for a whole year. 454 00:31:23,091 --> 00:31:25,719 I just hope you don't have to wait as long as me, man. 455 00:31:25,802 --> 00:31:31,266 So we all met at Louwana's house and sat down and put our heads together 456 00:31:31,349 --> 00:31:34,102 and tried to come up with 457 00:31:34,185 --> 00:31:37,605 some kind of lead or suspect. 458 00:31:40,567 --> 00:31:43,278 And one of the ways that I thought of was 459 00:31:43,361 --> 00:31:47,532 that we check all the employees at that middle school 460 00:31:47,615 --> 00:31:51,911 that Amanda had went to and that Gina was still going to. 461 00:31:51,995 --> 00:31:55,331 So we asked the schools for all the personnel files 462 00:31:55,415 --> 00:31:57,917 of the teaching and non-teaching staff there. 463 00:32:00,545 --> 00:32:04,632 And one of the people was a janitor at that school. 464 00:32:06,593 --> 00:32:10,305 He was a convicted rapist, who had served his time, got out. 465 00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:13,725 And I remember, I was like, 466 00:32:13,808 --> 00:32:17,520 "Oh, my God! How did this rapist get a job?" 467 00:32:18,646 --> 00:32:22,233 And could he have anything to do with their disappearance? 468 00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:33,536 He knew that we wanted to question him, so he ran away from us. 469 00:32:36,873 --> 00:32:40,919 He ended up getting in his car and speeding away. 470 00:32:50,136 --> 00:32:52,222 Oh, God, I shouldn't say this. 471 00:32:56,643 --> 00:33:01,731 He ended up going home and he ended up killing himself, committing... 472 00:33:15,578 --> 00:33:18,915 I mean, he shouldn't have taken his own life. 473 00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:22,043 All we wanted to do was ask him questions. 474 00:33:22,127 --> 00:33:24,295 He already paid his debt to society. 475 00:33:24,379 --> 00:33:27,298 It wasn't his mistake that Cleveland Schools hired him, 476 00:33:27,382 --> 00:33:30,677 they shouldn't have, they should have done the background checks. 477 00:33:32,929 --> 00:33:35,015 But we were so close. 478 00:33:40,270 --> 00:33:44,566 It wasn't that former employee, but it was a former employee. 479 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:04,711 My name's Ignacio Miranda. 480 00:34:04,794 --> 00:34:08,173 I was a band director for the group, Sinte. 481 00:34:08,256 --> 00:34:12,552 I'm working at the library, cleaning, you know, 482 00:34:12,635 --> 00:34:15,597 and actually doing a lot of the yard work outside. 483 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,850 I see a school bus pull up. 484 00:34:18,933 --> 00:34:21,394 I see a man get out, comes over. 485 00:34:21,478 --> 00:34:24,689 And he says, "Hey, I hear you're looking for a bass player. 486 00:34:24,773 --> 00:34:26,858 My name's Ariel Castro." 487 00:34:33,281 --> 00:34:36,493 I talked to him for a little while and ended up going to his house 488 00:34:36,576 --> 00:34:40,872 shortly after, just to see what he could do. 489 00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:43,583 He lived along on Seymour. 490 00:34:46,586 --> 00:34:48,922 I got to listen to him play. I said, 491 00:34:49,005 --> 00:34:52,217 "Well, he's actually a really good musician, he can really play." 492 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:55,261 You know, we were following each other, we didn't really need 493 00:34:55,345 --> 00:34:58,431 the sheet music, we didn't need any of it, we were just playing. 494 00:34:58,515 --> 00:35:03,228 Then I wanted to go to the restroom before I made it home and I said, 495 00:35:03,311 --> 00:35:05,480 "Hey, is it OK if I use your restroom?" 496 00:35:05,563 --> 00:35:09,317 And he says, "Didn't your mom train you any better? 497 00:35:09,401 --> 00:35:12,112 You're not supposed to go somebody else's house 498 00:35:12,195 --> 00:35:14,280 and ask them to use their restroom. 499 00:35:14,364 --> 00:35:18,451 I'm like, "OK, whatever, dude." And I walked off. 500 00:35:23,957 --> 00:35:26,501 Still, we proceeded to have him in our band. 501 00:35:26,584 --> 00:35:31,297 We played around different, west side of Cleveland, you know, 502 00:35:31,381 --> 00:35:33,925 Belindas Nightclub was one we used to play. 503 00:35:46,771 --> 00:35:51,443 Once we started getting a little bit more people wanting us to play, 504 00:35:51,526 --> 00:35:56,406 we got offered a gig at Pittsburgh and he said, "No, I'm not doing it. 505 00:35:56,489 --> 00:35:58,575 You guys figure it out, but I'm not going." 506 00:35:58,658 --> 00:36:02,328 He was willing to go a half hour away, or an hour away, 507 00:36:02,412 --> 00:36:04,581 but he couldn't go any further than that. 508 00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:11,379 Amanda Berry disappeared the night before she would have turned 17 509 00:36:11,463 --> 00:36:14,841 and, in a poignant tribute, her family is marking her 18th birthday 510 00:36:14,924 --> 00:36:17,218 with a solemn vigil and a plea for help. 511 00:36:17,302 --> 00:36:20,347 It's been so long, I can't take it any more. 512 00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:22,390 All I need is an answer. 513 00:36:22,474 --> 00:36:25,226 You know, the knowing's not the hardest part. 514 00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:27,395 Not knowing is the hardest part. 515 00:36:29,647 --> 00:36:32,484 Louwana Miller, very beautiful woman, 516 00:36:32,567 --> 00:36:37,906 and suffered so much of not knowing about her daughter. 517 00:36:39,115 --> 00:36:43,745 You know, so we share that mutual feeling, you know, 518 00:36:43,828 --> 00:36:47,624 on, we knew our daughter was out there. 519 00:36:49,125 --> 00:36:51,920 Her family's pain is shared by the parents of Gina DeJesus, 520 00:36:52,003 --> 00:36:55,256 the 14-year-old Cleveland girl who disappeared five blocks from 521 00:36:55,340 --> 00:36:57,467 the spot Amanda Berry was last seen. 522 00:37:00,887 --> 00:37:04,099 Gina's father is convinced that both girls were abducted. 523 00:37:04,182 --> 00:37:06,935 Now, whoever's got them, let them go, please. 524 00:37:07,018 --> 00:37:09,938 Wherever you got 'em, let these two children go home. 525 00:37:10,021 --> 00:37:12,190 CROWD: Amanda and Gina! 526 00:37:12,273 --> 00:37:14,359 Now! 527 00:37:16,653 --> 00:37:22,242 I felt for everyone that was on the TV looking for Gina and Amanda. 528 00:37:26,287 --> 00:37:28,998 My name is Michelle Knight 529 00:37:29,082 --> 00:37:33,837 and I was abducted before Gina and Amanda. 530 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,006 Nobody was looking for me. 531 00:37:36,089 --> 00:37:38,174 Who do we want? CROWD: Gina! 532 00:37:38,258 --> 00:37:39,926 When do we want her? Now! 533 00:37:40,010 --> 00:37:44,222 I was in the house two years before Gina. 534 00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:49,019 No-one interviewed or arrested has been connected to this case. 535 00:37:49,102 --> 00:37:51,604 Nobody ever deserves to go through 536 00:37:51,688 --> 00:37:54,399 something like what we went through, ever. 537 00:37:54,482 --> 00:37:56,860 Not even our worstest enemy. 538 00:37:59,446 --> 00:38:02,741 The years of living in his house 539 00:38:02,824 --> 00:38:08,663 was filled with torture, rape and verbal abuse. 540 00:38:11,249 --> 00:38:13,335 His whole persona was terrifying. 541 00:38:13,418 --> 00:38:18,048 He turned into Jekyll and Hyde, like, he was nice one moment, 542 00:38:18,131 --> 00:38:21,468 then he just turned into this horrible monster. 543 00:38:57,962 --> 00:39:02,217 That particular day, I needed to go to an appointment. 544 00:39:06,471 --> 00:39:10,475 Unfortunately, they did not give me the correct address. 545 00:39:10,558 --> 00:39:13,269 I ended up going to two wrong places. 546 00:39:17,023 --> 00:39:21,611 So, I was asking the store manager, "Do you know where this place is?" 547 00:39:21,695 --> 00:39:25,198 And the person that was walking in the store, 548 00:39:25,281 --> 00:39:28,868 he overheard the conversation and said, 549 00:39:28,952 --> 00:39:30,829 "Hey, I know where that's at." 550 00:39:30,912 --> 00:39:36,751 So, quickly, I recognised him and I'm like, "Oh, you're Emily's dad." 551 00:39:36,835 --> 00:39:38,920 She was a friend at the time. 552 00:39:41,339 --> 00:39:45,760 So I got in the car, it was an old truck, 553 00:39:45,844 --> 00:39:49,264 very ugly reddish-orange. 554 00:39:50,598 --> 00:39:53,143 Didn't really think nothing of it. 555 00:39:53,226 --> 00:39:56,271 We started talking about his daughter and I remember saying, 556 00:39:56,354 --> 00:39:58,231 "You're going the wrong way." 557 00:40:01,276 --> 00:40:03,570 He said, "Oh, I gotta stop at my house." 558 00:40:09,909 --> 00:40:14,664 I was in his backyard and he was just talking about his daughter 559 00:40:14,748 --> 00:40:17,792 and then, for some reason, we got onto puppies. 560 00:40:20,628 --> 00:40:23,340 He asked me would I like to give one to my son? 561 00:40:23,423 --> 00:40:25,717 And I said, "Oh, that would be wonderful." 562 00:40:28,428 --> 00:40:33,016 As I got out of the car, he said, "I gotta lock the gate." 563 00:40:33,099 --> 00:40:36,144 I was like, "OK." And then I was like, 564 00:40:36,227 --> 00:40:38,021 "Hey, why did you lock the gate?" 565 00:40:38,104 --> 00:40:40,398 He was like, "It's a bad neighbourhood." 566 00:40:44,319 --> 00:40:46,738 So I was like, "OK, OK." 567 00:40:51,993 --> 00:40:55,663 The area that we came through was the kitchen. 568 00:41:02,754 --> 00:41:05,548 As we walked up the stairs, 569 00:41:05,632 --> 00:41:09,219 I didn't hear no sounds of puppies. 570 00:41:09,302 --> 00:41:12,180 So I got a little bit more scared. 571 00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:21,981 As we got fully up there, he shoved me into a room and shut the door. 572 00:41:25,610 --> 00:41:28,154 And said, "You'll never see home again." 573 00:41:34,202 --> 00:41:38,540 I panicked, I just dropped to the floor, begging him to let me go. 574 00:41:38,623 --> 00:41:43,086 And as he was looking through my stuff, 575 00:41:43,169 --> 00:41:48,550 he started ripping pictures up, he started cutting my ID up, 576 00:41:48,633 --> 00:41:51,511 he asked me, did I have a cell phone on me? 577 00:41:51,594 --> 00:41:54,347 He even, like, took off my clothes. 578 00:41:56,933 --> 00:41:59,060 He took an extension cord 579 00:41:59,144 --> 00:42:03,440 and he wrapped it around my arms and my legs... 580 00:42:04,774 --> 00:42:07,485 ..and stuffed a sock in my mouth. 581 00:42:07,569 --> 00:42:12,574 And put the extension cord around my neck 582 00:42:12,657 --> 00:42:16,119 and then I was hanging 583 00:42:16,202 --> 00:42:21,332 from a rod that went across the room. 584 00:42:23,543 --> 00:42:29,591 I was literally hanging there, my legs, my feet, my arms, 585 00:42:29,674 --> 00:42:35,221 all parts of my body just went completely numb. 586 00:42:35,305 --> 00:42:37,390 I couldn't move. 587 00:42:37,474 --> 00:42:39,851 I was like, frozen. 588 00:42:39,934 --> 00:42:42,604 I was like, I don't even know what was going on. 589 00:42:42,687 --> 00:42:44,898 All I know is like, I was crying. 590 00:42:47,901 --> 00:42:50,278 I was thinking of my son. 591 00:42:52,489 --> 00:42:55,075 That's the only thing that was keeping me holding on, 592 00:42:55,158 --> 00:42:59,371 cos I didn't know how to keep hanging on at that point, 593 00:42:59,454 --> 00:43:01,331 I just wanted to go. 594 00:43:01,414 --> 00:43:03,500 I just wanted to leave earth. 595 00:43:11,716 --> 00:43:14,594 Every day, I would ask so many questions. 596 00:43:14,678 --> 00:43:17,555 "Don't ask us anything about Ariel's house any more." 597 00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:21,309 I just got a gut feeling. "That don't get you nowhere, 598 00:43:21,393 --> 00:43:24,729 you need credible evidence." "I know, I just got a feeling." 599 00:43:29,442 --> 00:43:35,573 In my heart, I was having panic attacks and didn't know why. 600 00:43:36,658 --> 00:43:38,743 Over this little short Puerto Rican dude. 601 00:43:40,578 --> 00:43:42,956 So I watched him, got nothing. 602 00:43:44,332 --> 00:43:47,460 Watched him, got nothing. Watched him. He'd do normal shit. 603 00:43:47,544 --> 00:43:49,838 Drive the school bus, he hangs with children. 604 00:43:49,921 --> 00:43:52,215 I see people letting him watch their children. 605 00:43:52,298 --> 00:43:55,635 This is normal, listening to rock and roll, listening to the Beatles, 606 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,055 he's gotta be normal listening to the Beatles, right? There you go. 607 00:43:59,139 --> 00:44:01,224 I here all morning, right? 608 00:44:01,307 --> 00:44:03,393 OK, so he's normal. 609 00:44:25,665 --> 00:44:29,669 We had a, I guess, what they'd consider a long conversation, 610 00:44:29,753 --> 00:44:33,089 over some pizza and some soda... 611 00:44:34,924 --> 00:44:37,010 ..about his childhood. 612 00:44:37,093 --> 00:44:39,804 He did have a horrible childhood. 613 00:44:39,888 --> 00:44:41,973 But it's like I told him, 614 00:44:42,057 --> 00:44:44,976 "Just because you have a horrible childhood 615 00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:49,022 doesn't mean you have the right to continue the abuse." 616 00:44:51,107 --> 00:44:54,903 I was trying everything in my power to change his heart, 617 00:44:54,986 --> 00:44:57,072 change his mind. 618 00:44:58,406 --> 00:45:02,452 And people need help. 619 00:45:02,535 --> 00:45:04,621 And he definitely needed. 620 00:45:21,846 --> 00:45:25,975 Oh, he comes in with a gun and then he's like, "Wanna play a game?" 621 00:45:26,059 --> 00:45:29,187 "We're gonna play Russian Roulette." And I said, "Sure." 622 00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:33,024 I was 14, I didn't even know what Russian Roulette was. 623 00:45:36,277 --> 00:45:38,947 Michelle was like, "No, I don't wanna play that." 624 00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:42,117 So, then, so it's just me and him playing. 625 00:45:46,705 --> 00:45:52,419 I just wanted to turn the gun to him and say goodbye. 626 00:45:52,502 --> 00:45:54,629 But, I was too scared. 627 00:45:54,713 --> 00:45:58,133 And I really didn't think there were bullets in the gun. 628 00:45:58,216 --> 00:46:01,344 But then he showed us that there was a bullet in there. 629 00:46:06,933 --> 00:46:09,519 He spinned it and then he was like, "Put it to your head 630 00:46:09,602 --> 00:46:14,190 and then pull the trigger and, if you die, then you die." 631 00:46:14,274 --> 00:46:18,778 So then, I said, "OK." I'm thinking, "What do I got to lose?" 632 00:46:22,365 --> 00:46:24,951 The bullet wasn't there, so I got really lucky. 633 00:46:26,453 --> 00:46:30,248 So, and then he gave me the gun, then he's like, um, 634 00:46:30,331 --> 00:46:34,377 "If you pull the trigger, that means you hate me. 635 00:46:34,461 --> 00:46:39,507 If you don't pull the trigger, that means you don't hate me." 636 00:46:39,591 --> 00:46:44,262 She took the gun and she went to pull it. 637 00:46:44,346 --> 00:46:46,681 And was like, "Are you sure you wanna do this? 638 00:46:46,765 --> 00:46:49,100 Are you positive." 639 00:46:49,184 --> 00:46:51,353 I was like, "Oh, go ahead." 640 00:46:51,436 --> 00:46:55,982 I sat back and I just let it happen. 641 00:46:58,193 --> 00:47:02,447 So I pulled the trigger hoping that the bullet was there. 642 00:47:02,530 --> 00:47:04,240 And it wasn't. 643 00:47:04,324 --> 00:47:09,496 So, I guess I let him know that I really didn't like him. 644 00:47:31,351 --> 00:47:34,104 Maybe I thought I could help because they thought 645 00:47:34,187 --> 00:47:37,732 their daughters were alive, so that's why I was... 646 00:47:39,317 --> 00:47:43,363 ..so dead set on doing what I was doing. 647 00:47:46,074 --> 00:47:47,784 It's like nobody cares any more 648 00:47:47,867 --> 00:47:49,536 she's been gone so long. 649 00:47:49,619 --> 00:47:52,497 But I ain't gonna stop. 650 00:47:52,580 --> 00:47:56,876 Louwana wanted to meet that psychic, Sylvia Browne. 651 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,504 She thought that Sylvia could help. 652 00:47:59,587 --> 00:48:04,759 I'm just like, "That is BS." 653 00:48:07,804 --> 00:48:11,391 It was not what I wanted to do, but eventually I'm like, "Fine." 654 00:48:17,147 --> 00:48:19,482 My management helped arrange 655 00:48:19,566 --> 00:48:23,361 for Louwana to be a guest and meet Sylvia. 656 00:48:23,445 --> 00:48:27,365 What is this gift and why do you have it and he don't? 657 00:48:27,449 --> 00:48:30,368 Is this...? What... What is psychic? I don't know what it is. 658 00:48:30,452 --> 00:48:33,288 What do you believe it is? I believe that it comes from God. 659 00:48:33,371 --> 00:48:35,248 I am because I am. 660 00:48:35,331 --> 00:48:38,877 And finally it came time 661 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,796 and Sylvia turned to her and said... 662 00:48:43,882 --> 00:48:47,093 "I'm sorry. Your daughter's dead. 663 00:48:47,177 --> 00:48:49,763 She's in water." Bam, bam! 664 00:48:49,846 --> 00:48:52,849 And the camera goes real close to Louwana and I'm like... 665 00:48:52,932 --> 00:48:57,103 I almost like jumped up and started screaming. 666 00:48:57,187 --> 00:49:00,023 I just hate that she's not alive, honey. 667 00:49:00,106 --> 00:49:02,275 I'm like, "What? 668 00:49:02,359 --> 00:49:04,527 Crap. 669 00:49:04,611 --> 00:49:06,279 How can you say that to her? 670 00:49:06,363 --> 00:49:08,698 You don't know that her daughter is in the water. 671 00:49:08,782 --> 00:49:10,658 You don't know that her daughter is... 672 00:49:10,742 --> 00:49:14,579 For years this woman has believed in her heart, in her soul 673 00:49:14,662 --> 00:49:16,331 that her daughter is alive 674 00:49:16,414 --> 00:49:19,334 and you just come up with this freaking bullshit." 675 00:49:24,923 --> 00:49:26,883 She was so crushed. 676 00:49:26,966 --> 00:49:31,638 It...stomped on her soul. 677 00:49:31,721 --> 00:49:36,726 Her sp... Her spirit, her hope. 678 00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:39,437 It's so dark these times. 679 00:49:39,521 --> 00:49:41,439 Right, right. 680 00:49:41,523 --> 00:49:44,651 I gotta do it. This is our America. 681 00:49:44,734 --> 00:49:47,028 She was upset for a long time. 682 00:49:47,112 --> 00:49:50,240 I was trying to comfort her in every way. 683 00:49:50,323 --> 00:49:52,409 Hanging off of you, man. 684 00:49:52,492 --> 00:49:54,577 But she just was not feeling good. 685 00:49:54,661 --> 00:49:56,871 She wasn't eating right. 686 00:49:56,955 --> 00:50:01,960 But it was Amanda's disappearance, but physically she was sick. 687 00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:22,897 Her family called me up and said, 688 00:50:22,981 --> 00:50:27,777 "Hey, Bill... Louwana's real sick. 689 00:50:32,073 --> 00:50:34,409 You've become part of our family, Bill, 690 00:50:34,492 --> 00:50:36,369 and we want you there with us." 691 00:50:40,582 --> 00:50:43,752 And when I walked in that hospital room and saw her, 692 00:50:43,835 --> 00:50:46,254 I mean I was just like... It took... 693 00:50:47,380 --> 00:50:51,718 (SIGHS) It was just so sad. 694 00:50:53,928 --> 00:50:57,432 I went over and grabbed her hand, I said, You're gonna be fine. 695 00:50:57,515 --> 00:51:00,185 You're gonna be fine." She started to squeeze my hand. 696 00:51:00,268 --> 00:51:03,313 I said, "I know what you wanna tell me. 697 00:51:03,396 --> 00:51:08,818 To make sure Mandy's picture is on the news all the time and trust me, 698 00:51:08,902 --> 00:51:12,072 I'm gonna do that but you're gonna have to get better and help me. 699 00:51:12,155 --> 00:51:15,450 So get better and get out, in a couple of days and help me. 700 00:51:15,533 --> 00:51:19,120 Remind me, no, we'll do this together. 701 00:51:19,204 --> 00:51:20,914 We'll bring Mandy home." 702 00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:27,712 It was so sad that she was going to leave this earth 703 00:51:27,796 --> 00:51:30,340 without knowing where her daughter was. 704 00:51:30,423 --> 00:51:34,260 It was so unfair. Nobody should ever have to go through that. 705 00:51:39,391 --> 00:51:43,269 I just couldn't help her get her kid home and it bugs me. 706 00:51:45,438 --> 00:51:47,524 (WEEPS) 707 00:51:58,118 --> 00:52:03,748 I was the actual one that let her know that her mom had passed away. 708 00:52:07,836 --> 00:52:13,174 It was very hard to process and I really felt for her. 709 00:52:15,176 --> 00:52:20,640 I tried my best to do what I could inside of a house 710 00:52:20,724 --> 00:52:23,810 that nobody should've ever been in. 711 00:52:34,946 --> 00:52:38,241 As the days gone past of being in the house, 712 00:52:38,324 --> 00:52:43,747 I had ended up getting pregnant about five times. 713 00:52:44,748 --> 00:52:49,169 They were all aborted in abusive ways. 714 00:52:50,337 --> 00:52:52,213 Some starved. 715 00:52:52,297 --> 00:52:54,174 Some, I was beat. 716 00:52:54,257 --> 00:52:56,176 I was thrown downstairs. 717 00:52:56,259 --> 00:53:00,180 I was also hit with a barbell more than once. 718 00:53:02,265 --> 00:53:06,978 He told me that we could never have a kid here, it would be too loud. 719 00:53:07,062 --> 00:53:11,983 So my question was to him, "Why get a girl pregnant 720 00:53:12,067 --> 00:53:16,321 if you're gonna make them suffer horrendous abuse?" 721 00:53:17,655 --> 00:53:23,244 I end up getting hit more because I guess I was too mouthy for him. 722 00:53:24,329 --> 00:53:26,831 So I basically told him, 723 00:53:26,915 --> 00:53:30,460 "This will be the last time you abort a child 724 00:53:30,543 --> 00:53:32,629 cos I won't let it happen." 725 00:53:49,771 --> 00:53:52,941 Amanda got pregnant as well. 726 00:53:55,235 --> 00:53:57,028 I was scared for that child. 727 00:53:57,112 --> 00:53:58,863 I was scared for her. 728 00:53:58,947 --> 00:54:03,660 I was scared that she might not make it, we're not in a hospital. 729 00:54:03,743 --> 00:54:05,995 Anything could go wrong. 730 00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,164 Anything. 731 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,462 He told me before anything, 732 00:54:14,546 --> 00:54:19,384 if the child got hurt or sick or anything 733 00:54:19,467 --> 00:54:22,262 for that matter during the process of delivery, 734 00:54:22,345 --> 00:54:25,473 that he would kill me. 735 00:54:25,557 --> 00:54:29,352 And I believed him. I believed that he would actually do it. 736 00:54:35,025 --> 00:54:38,278 When the baby came out, it didn't make a sound. 737 00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:45,160 You have to clear the lungs. 738 00:54:45,243 --> 00:54:48,788 So I had to smack it out, from the back, 739 00:54:48,872 --> 00:54:52,834 like, up above her upper back. 740 00:54:52,917 --> 00:54:56,254 I had to go like this so she can cough it out, 741 00:54:56,338 --> 00:54:59,257 so she can finally start to go, "Aaargh!" 742 00:54:59,341 --> 00:55:03,928 And then she started crying and that was the amazing part about it 743 00:55:04,012 --> 00:55:06,639 is that I was able to deliver, 744 00:55:06,723 --> 00:55:10,185 help deliver a baby and it was a miracle. 745 00:55:11,311 --> 00:55:13,813 Give me a second, I gotta take a break. 746 00:55:23,281 --> 00:55:26,576 I'm so glad that she was able to have her 747 00:55:26,659 --> 00:55:32,248 and that she came out very wonderful, with all ten toes 748 00:55:32,332 --> 00:55:38,046 and all ten fingers and a very gorgeous little smile. 749 00:55:43,176 --> 00:55:46,971 Amanda had a baby and she had... 750 00:55:47,055 --> 00:55:52,310 Uh, it definitely did kind of change a little bit for us. 751 00:55:54,312 --> 00:55:58,900 When the baby was born, that's when he decided 752 00:55:58,983 --> 00:56:04,364 to permanently take the chains off and padlock our doors. 753 00:56:06,116 --> 00:56:08,243 There was an emotional chain. 754 00:56:10,578 --> 00:56:16,001 Where he had scared us so much that I feared running. 755 00:56:16,084 --> 00:56:20,839 He always used each other against us. 756 00:56:20,922 --> 00:56:23,008 Like, for instance, he would say, 757 00:56:23,091 --> 00:56:25,468 "Well if you try to run, I'll kill her." 758 00:56:25,552 --> 00:56:28,722 Or, "If you try to do this, I'll kill you." 759 00:56:28,805 --> 00:56:31,641 He would use things like that against us 760 00:56:31,725 --> 00:56:34,310 so we would be afraid to run. 761 00:56:37,439 --> 00:56:40,984 I remember one time he told me that, if I tried anything, 762 00:56:41,067 --> 00:56:46,114 he would hang me from my ankles so the blood could rush to my head, 763 00:56:46,197 --> 00:56:50,910 so I didn't try anything, but I always wanted to escape, 764 00:56:50,994 --> 00:56:52,662 but I just couldn't get out. 765 00:57:06,134 --> 00:57:08,219 (SIGHS) 766 00:57:22,108 --> 00:57:23,777 Yeah. 767 00:57:23,860 --> 00:57:28,114 This is an FBI sketch of what they thought the person of interest 768 00:57:28,198 --> 00:57:31,368 in Gina's disappearance looked like and it's... 769 00:57:32,911 --> 00:57:38,875 ..it's haunting how close it ended up being of him at that age. 770 00:57:41,169 --> 00:57:43,797 The FBI released this composite sketch. 771 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,966 They said a man driving a light-coloured small car 772 00:57:47,050 --> 00:57:52,013 was wanted in connection with Gina's disappearance. 773 00:57:52,097 --> 00:57:54,849 The first thing that came to my mind, I said... 774 00:57:59,104 --> 00:58:01,272 .."I think I know this person." 775 00:58:02,816 --> 00:58:07,570 I kept wondering where I'd met this person, 776 00:58:07,654 --> 00:58:10,156 cos I... 777 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,325 He looks familiar. 778 00:58:14,619 --> 00:58:18,748 And I showed it to my two oldest brothers and they like, 779 00:58:18,832 --> 00:58:23,753 "We know that person. Whoever this is, we've seen him somewhere. 780 00:58:23,837 --> 00:58:27,215 But we can't put our finger on it." 781 00:58:31,970 --> 00:58:35,807 We have over 3,000 people in the City of Cleveland 782 00:58:35,890 --> 00:58:38,476 searching for whoever took my daughter. 783 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:43,148 The father of Gina DeJesus, missing now for four years, 784 00:58:43,231 --> 00:58:46,401 says he won't rest until both girls are found. 785 00:58:55,744 --> 00:58:58,246 It's been four years for my family. 786 00:58:58,329 --> 00:59:00,415 Now it's five years for theirs. 787 00:59:00,498 --> 00:59:03,335 Please help both of our families. 788 00:59:03,418 --> 00:59:05,795 It was hard watching my dad. 789 00:59:07,630 --> 00:59:10,175 Listening to him crying in the middle of the night 790 00:59:10,258 --> 00:59:14,971 when no-one was up or he assumed we were not up 791 00:59:15,055 --> 00:59:20,352 and it would just hurt because my dad sacrificed everything for us. 792 00:59:20,435 --> 00:59:22,520 Where is Gina? 793 00:59:22,604 --> 00:59:24,272 (INDISTINCT CHANTING) 794 00:59:24,356 --> 00:59:27,776 As the years went on, the newsroom didn't want it any more. 795 00:59:27,859 --> 00:59:30,570 They're like, "Oh, no, I don't wanna hear anything else 796 00:59:30,653 --> 00:59:33,948 about those runaway girls. We don't need to cover them any more." 797 00:59:34,032 --> 00:59:36,826 And then, you know, Nancy would call and say, 798 00:59:36,910 --> 00:59:40,288 "Hey, you know, we're having this today. Can you stop by?" 799 00:59:40,372 --> 00:59:42,082 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 800 00:59:42,165 --> 00:59:45,418 So I'd go and talk to the producer and I said, 801 00:59:45,502 --> 00:59:48,630 "Look, I'm gonna give you the story and then some. 802 00:59:48,713 --> 00:59:54,427 But please, please fit in something to talk about the missing girls." 803 00:59:54,511 --> 00:59:57,931 Keeping Gina's memory alive is all they can do. 804 00:59:58,014 --> 01:00:02,686 Tips are still coming, and as long as we can take it to the media 805 01:00:02,769 --> 01:00:04,854 and shows, my daughter... 806 01:00:04,938 --> 01:00:06,856 People do call. 807 01:00:06,940 --> 01:00:09,818 I just don't think that there was as much interest on it 808 01:00:09,901 --> 01:00:14,906 as there was for the families, myself and Bill, 809 01:00:14,989 --> 01:00:17,075 because we believed them. 810 01:00:29,254 --> 01:00:32,799 The two cousins that were around Gina's age, 811 01:00:32,882 --> 01:00:36,803 that she grew up with, they were growing up. 812 01:00:36,886 --> 01:00:40,515 They were becoming junior high school students, 813 01:00:40,598 --> 01:00:44,144 high school students and those were definitely hard times for me 814 01:00:44,227 --> 01:00:49,232 because it was like Gina would be doing this. 815 01:01:23,683 --> 01:01:29,189 Sometimes I didn't sleep, and I would just stay up and just, 816 01:01:29,272 --> 01:01:34,694 just think of my family and what they were doing... 817 01:01:35,653 --> 01:01:40,492 ..and did they have a good day, you know? 818 01:01:40,575 --> 01:01:44,537 Sometimes I was mad at the world cos I was stuck. 819 01:01:45,789 --> 01:01:48,291 Almost exactly a year after Amanda disappeared, 820 01:01:48,375 --> 01:01:51,127 Gina DeJesus vanished five short blocks away. 821 01:01:51,211 --> 01:01:53,630 Over the years, their families have become one. 822 01:01:53,713 --> 01:01:55,840 After eight years, the crowd has dwindled. 823 01:01:55,924 --> 01:01:58,343 In the beginning when I was first kidnapped, 824 01:01:58,426 --> 01:02:00,929 they were on the news, like, all the time. 825 01:02:01,012 --> 01:02:03,515 So I was like, "Yeah," all the time. 826 01:02:03,598 --> 01:02:06,851 And then, like, after, like, years went by, 827 01:02:06,935 --> 01:02:09,354 it was just the anniversary. 828 01:02:09,437 --> 01:02:12,440 So that's like once a year I'd get to see my family. 829 01:02:12,524 --> 01:02:16,695 And tomorrow marks Amanda Berry's 25th birthday. The FBI... 830 01:02:16,778 --> 01:02:19,739 He made us have a different name cos he didn't want the child, 831 01:02:19,823 --> 01:02:22,367 Jocelyn, to know who we really are, 832 01:02:22,450 --> 01:02:26,287 because not only was we able to see the news, 833 01:02:26,371 --> 01:02:28,748 she was able to see the news as well. 834 01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:32,377 So, as she started getting older, 835 01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:36,006 she started talking, she started noticing things. 836 01:02:39,592 --> 01:02:41,678 I thought it was his grand-daughter. 837 01:02:41,761 --> 01:02:45,140 Wherever they'd go, he'd always got his hand, she never walks alone. 838 01:02:45,223 --> 01:02:47,475 He bought her one of those little tight things, 839 01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:49,269 she's got a Barbie key, you know? 840 01:02:49,352 --> 01:02:52,188 He's walk on the side of her, he spoiled that girl rotten. 841 01:02:52,272 --> 01:02:54,482 So, in my head, he's a good grandparent. 842 01:02:54,566 --> 01:02:56,443 Well, that's his daughter. 843 01:02:56,526 --> 01:02:58,236 But who knew that? 844 01:03:07,495 --> 01:03:12,042 In 2012, we received a letter from an individual named Robert Wolford. 845 01:03:12,125 --> 01:03:16,921 He was incarcerated in a prison, a state prison, in Southern Ohio. 846 01:03:17,005 --> 01:03:20,925 In the letter, the individual had stated that he was responsible 847 01:03:21,009 --> 01:03:23,094 for the disappearance of Amanda 848 01:03:23,178 --> 01:03:27,223 to include being responsible for killing Amanda. 849 01:03:27,307 --> 01:03:31,811 Using a cadaver dog two police officers and an FBI evidence team 850 01:03:31,895 --> 01:03:34,731 search and sift dirt in a vacant lot. 851 01:03:36,983 --> 01:03:40,779 There was some credibility to the location. 852 01:03:41,988 --> 01:03:44,491 A couple of days after Amanda had gone missing, 853 01:03:44,574 --> 01:03:49,079 her mother received a phone call from her cell phone. 854 01:03:49,162 --> 01:03:53,166 What was interesting to us about Wolford was 855 01:03:53,249 --> 01:03:56,378 the area that he had claimed that he had buried Amanda 856 01:03:56,461 --> 01:03:59,255 fell within that cell phone range. 857 01:03:59,339 --> 01:04:02,926 For two long days, Cleveland Police, FBI agents 858 01:04:03,009 --> 01:04:06,262 and city workers worked nearly around the clock 859 01:04:06,346 --> 01:04:08,848 looking for possible remains of Amanda Berry. 860 01:04:08,932 --> 01:04:12,018 By 2:30 this afternoon, heavy equipment used 861 01:04:12,102 --> 01:04:14,562 to dig up this empty lot left. 862 01:04:14,646 --> 01:04:17,482 Police cleared out, the search was over. 863 01:04:19,484 --> 01:04:22,195 There were negative results for any human remains 864 01:04:22,278 --> 01:04:26,324 and that's when he admitted to us that he made the whole story up. 865 01:04:28,410 --> 01:04:31,413 He wanted to get out of the jail that he was in for a little bit 866 01:04:31,496 --> 01:04:34,958 and by coming up with the story and saying that he was involved, 867 01:04:35,041 --> 01:04:37,419 that was a way for him to do it. 868 01:04:37,502 --> 01:04:40,588 As remote as it is, there's still hope for the family. 869 01:04:40,672 --> 01:04:43,883 Maybe somewhere this girl's still alive. 870 01:04:47,012 --> 01:04:50,807 The messed up part about it is that they were so close. 871 01:04:52,642 --> 01:04:58,106 So close and we couldn't do anything. 872 01:04:59,524 --> 01:05:01,443 We couldn't let 'em know we were here. 873 01:05:01,526 --> 01:05:03,319 We couldn't scream. 874 01:05:03,403 --> 01:05:06,239 So close but so far away. 875 01:05:07,407 --> 01:05:09,159 And he laughed. 876 01:05:09,242 --> 01:05:11,202 He laughed about it. 877 01:05:13,329 --> 01:05:16,583 And he said, "You're never gonna get found. 878 01:05:18,001 --> 01:05:20,920 They're this close, and they still haven't found you." 879 01:05:44,402 --> 01:05:47,405 I just was sitting there drawing. 880 01:05:47,489 --> 01:05:53,119 Me and Gina was talking and I turned to her and said, 881 01:05:53,203 --> 01:05:57,332 "Hey, what if today is the day that we go home? 882 01:05:58,667 --> 01:06:03,588 Wouldn't that be amazing?" And she said, "Yeah that would be." 883 01:06:13,390 --> 01:06:17,560 I would say I heard, like... 884 01:06:20,188 --> 01:06:25,819 ..Amanda whispering to Jocelyn. 885 01:06:27,779 --> 01:06:32,409 She went downstairs, came back up and said, "I can't find Daddy." 886 01:06:33,576 --> 01:06:37,914 So I looked at Michelle, I said, "We could go." 887 01:06:37,997 --> 01:06:42,544 (LAUGHS) Like our doors were open and unlocked. 888 01:06:44,129 --> 01:06:47,507 I heard Jocelyn coming up the stairs, 889 01:06:47,590 --> 01:06:52,679 saying Daddy wasn't here, but I thought she was just joking. 890 01:06:52,762 --> 01:06:57,642 Then I noticed that both of 'em went back downstairs together 891 01:06:57,726 --> 01:07:00,103 so I figured maybe he just called her down there 892 01:07:00,186 --> 01:07:02,897 and they're just gonna have a conversation. 893 01:07:05,233 --> 01:07:08,236 I went to watch TV again 894 01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:11,031 and the next thing I heard like booming noises. 895 01:07:14,492 --> 01:07:18,663 I'm at home and I heard this banging, bang, bang, bang, bang. 896 01:07:18,747 --> 01:07:22,876 And I look out my window and I see my neighbours 897 01:07:22,959 --> 01:07:26,755 in the middle of the street but they're not looking at me, 898 01:07:26,838 --> 01:07:29,883 they're looking at the house next door, not my door. 899 01:07:29,966 --> 01:07:33,470 I come outside, "What you looking at?" Bang, bang, bang. 900 01:07:33,553 --> 01:07:36,890 "Oh, there's that... What is going on? What is that?" 901 01:07:36,973 --> 01:07:39,893 They said, "It's some girl, she wanna get outta the house." 902 01:07:39,976 --> 01:07:41,644 "Then, did you help her?" 903 01:07:41,728 --> 01:07:44,981 "We're not gonna get involved with that, we don't know her." Argh! 904 01:07:45,065 --> 01:07:48,943 I go off my porch, "What is the problem?" 905 01:07:49,027 --> 01:07:51,321 "I need to get outta here." "Then get out!" 906 01:07:51,404 --> 01:07:54,866 "I can't, he's got the door locked -" or "chained up", rather. 907 01:07:54,949 --> 01:07:57,035 I said, "Oh, God." All right. 908 01:07:57,118 --> 01:08:01,206 So I got a Big, a Big Mac in my hand, just like McDonald's. 909 01:08:01,289 --> 01:08:02,957 So I've got a debate. 910 01:08:03,041 --> 01:08:08,088 Help the girl I don't know, $4 hamburger I just bought. 911 01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:11,341 I know the hamburger. I don't know you. All right, here we go. 912 01:08:11,424 --> 01:08:14,594 Put the hamburger down. Destroyed the door. 913 01:08:14,678 --> 01:08:17,681 She comes out, she comes out with a little girl. 914 01:08:17,764 --> 01:08:21,267 I said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not with the kidnap. 915 01:08:21,351 --> 01:08:25,021 What's the little girl?" Cos in my head that Ariel's grand-daughter. 916 01:08:25,105 --> 01:08:27,190 "Who are you?" 917 01:08:27,273 --> 01:08:31,486 I'm stopping her from pulling her own daughter out of her house. 918 01:08:31,569 --> 01:08:33,655 She's like, "This is my kid!" 919 01:08:33,738 --> 01:08:37,200 I said, "How? Who are you?" 920 01:08:38,410 --> 01:08:41,955 She's said, "I'm Amanda Berry." It's not registering yet, whatever. 921 01:08:42,038 --> 01:08:45,166 "OK, well here. You call the police." 922 01:09:09,733 --> 01:09:11,818 I need them now. 923 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,286 'This is 23.' 924 01:09:25,665 --> 01:09:29,294 Our dispatcher said that she had a female on the line 925 01:09:29,377 --> 01:09:34,215 stating that she was Amanda Berry and that she was free, 926 01:09:34,299 --> 01:09:40,055 that she had been kidnapped for ten years and she needed help. 927 01:09:42,515 --> 01:09:45,643 We immediately turned on the lights and sirens 928 01:09:45,727 --> 01:09:47,896 and we headed towards Seymour. 929 01:09:49,564 --> 01:09:53,318 As we were pulling up I see a young lady 930 01:09:53,401 --> 01:09:55,487 standing there holding a child. 931 01:09:57,405 --> 01:09:59,949 My partner asked her, 932 01:10:00,033 --> 01:10:04,245 "Is there anybody else in the house?", you know, 933 01:10:04,329 --> 01:10:07,123 and she said, "Yes, there's two more girls in the house." 934 01:10:07,207 --> 01:10:09,542 So we started charging towards the house. 935 01:10:16,216 --> 01:10:21,221 My door was unlocked, so I peeped out of it a couple of times, 936 01:10:21,304 --> 01:10:24,015 said, "You know what? I'm just gonna go out it." 937 01:10:24,099 --> 01:10:26,184 She kinda got excited. 938 01:10:26,267 --> 01:10:28,978 I'm like, "That's probably not a good idea. 939 01:10:29,062 --> 01:10:33,233 I'm not even gonna try it, cos it could be a trap. 940 01:10:33,316 --> 01:10:35,485 I don't know what in his mind." 941 01:10:35,568 --> 01:10:37,362 So I didn't do anything. 942 01:10:38,822 --> 01:10:42,409 Then, next thing I know, I hear footsteps coming up the stairs. 943 01:10:42,492 --> 01:10:45,412 Then I hear, "Police! Police!" 944 01:10:49,624 --> 01:10:55,255 And then when the person opened the curtain and I seen the badge 945 01:10:55,338 --> 01:10:58,633 I ran so fast 946 01:10:58,717 --> 01:11:02,512 and jumped into their arms and told 'em, "Never let me go. 947 01:11:03,888 --> 01:11:05,765 Never let me go." 948 01:11:07,642 --> 01:11:11,354 She said, "My name is Michelle Knight. I'm 31 years old. 949 01:11:11,438 --> 01:11:13,523 I've been here for 12 years. 950 01:11:24,617 --> 01:11:26,411 You saved us." 951 01:11:32,625 --> 01:11:34,794 I peeped my head out of the door. 952 01:11:36,629 --> 01:11:38,923 They were saying they were police officers 953 01:11:39,007 --> 01:11:42,427 and they made me repeat my name twice. 954 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,349 And I looked at her and I immediately knew who it was. 955 01:11:47,432 --> 01:11:50,769 I just couldn't believe it. 956 01:11:52,228 --> 01:11:55,857 (SOBS) I told her, "We've been looking for you for a long time." 957 01:11:59,110 --> 01:12:02,947 And I'm like, "I know. I've been watching the news." (LAUGHS) 958 01:12:06,034 --> 01:12:08,119 At a point the radio. 959 01:12:18,338 --> 01:12:24,094 One of my special memories is sitting in the ambulance 960 01:12:24,177 --> 01:12:30,100 looking at Jocelyn, Gina and Amanda and Amanda reaching her hand out, 961 01:12:30,183 --> 01:12:34,229 saying, "We're going home. We're finally going home." 962 01:12:34,312 --> 01:12:36,648 And I said, "Yes, we are." 963 01:12:39,567 --> 01:12:43,613 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) It is a story we've followed for ten years 964 01:12:43,697 --> 01:12:46,116 and tonight we're following breaking news. 965 01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:49,119 Three women that had vanished have been found alive. 966 01:12:52,539 --> 01:12:56,209 Snatched the keys for the car, then I went outside. 967 01:12:56,292 --> 01:12:58,712 Here comes three cop cars. 968 01:13:00,255 --> 01:13:02,674 They asked me, "Where are you going?" 969 01:13:02,757 --> 01:13:05,468 I said, "Well, I'm getting in the vehicle. 970 01:13:05,552 --> 01:13:09,431 The media said that they'd found three girls on Seymour. 971 01:13:09,514 --> 01:13:13,435 I'm going to drive down to there to see if it was Gina." 972 01:13:14,728 --> 01:13:16,604 She goes, "You're not going nowhere. 973 01:13:16,688 --> 01:13:19,274 That's why we came here to take you." 974 01:13:19,357 --> 01:13:22,152 I said, "Take me where? To Seymour?" 975 01:13:22,235 --> 01:13:25,071 She goes, "No, we gonna take you to the hospital. 976 01:13:25,155 --> 01:13:26,865 We've found your daughter." 977 01:13:28,700 --> 01:13:30,785 I say, "What?" 978 01:13:31,995 --> 01:13:34,330 We've seen a lot of hugging, crying. 979 01:13:34,414 --> 01:13:36,708 This is video from outside of this hospital. 980 01:13:36,791 --> 01:13:39,336 But when are these young women going to be released? 981 01:13:39,419 --> 01:13:41,546 They're just telling me, "No comment." 982 01:13:43,423 --> 01:13:46,718 They found Amanda and we get to the hospital 983 01:13:46,801 --> 01:13:50,847 and there she is, standing there. 984 01:13:52,724 --> 01:13:57,604 And then we all start hugging for what seemed like a half an hour. 985 01:13:57,687 --> 01:13:59,606 We didn't even let go. 986 01:13:59,689 --> 01:14:03,318 Then, when we let go, we look over and there's everyone (LAUGHS). 987 01:14:03,401 --> 01:14:06,237 It's real quiet and they're all staring at us. 988 01:14:06,321 --> 01:14:11,242 The police, the nurses, the doctors, the FBI. 989 01:14:11,326 --> 01:14:14,329 They're just all standing there, just in awe. 990 01:14:15,747 --> 01:14:19,292 I'm standing next to my dad and he goes, 991 01:14:19,376 --> 01:14:22,379 "Promise me you don't break down and start crying." 992 01:14:22,462 --> 01:14:24,464 I said, "How am I gonna promise that? 993 01:14:24,547 --> 01:14:27,592 I'm the sissy of all the group. I'm gonna cry." 994 01:14:27,676 --> 01:14:30,178 He's like, "You gotta be strong for your sister." 995 01:14:30,261 --> 01:14:33,473 I'm like, "OK, Dad, I'll try my best, can't guarantee nothing." 996 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,229 Wow. 997 01:14:39,312 --> 01:14:41,106 Nine years. 998 01:14:43,775 --> 01:14:45,527 I lost it. 999 01:14:51,324 --> 01:14:54,035 I couldn't believe that I was hugging my daughter. 1000 01:15:09,926 --> 01:15:14,097 I was actually in my garden when I got this phone call. 1001 01:15:14,180 --> 01:15:19,853 Like, "Dude, you're not gonna believe it, the girls, the girls! 1002 01:15:19,936 --> 01:15:23,481 They were found!" I'm like, "What are you talking about? Slow down!" 1003 01:15:24,649 --> 01:15:26,735 And, um... (LAUGHS) 1004 01:15:29,029 --> 01:15:33,533 ..when he said Gina and Amanda, those two names, I like flipped out. 1005 01:15:33,616 --> 01:15:37,120 And I called Bill, I said, "Bill, is it true?" 1006 01:15:37,203 --> 01:15:40,415 He goes, "I'm at Amanda's house right now. I gotta go. Bye." 1007 01:15:40,498 --> 01:15:43,418 I went, "Oh, my gosh!" 1008 01:15:45,587 --> 01:15:49,341 On 19 Action News, all over breaking news, 1009 01:15:49,424 --> 01:15:51,926 right now the long awaited homecomings begin for 1010 01:15:52,010 --> 01:15:54,596 the three missing Cleveland women found alive. 1011 01:15:54,679 --> 01:15:57,098 Yeah, we definitely know that the family 1012 01:15:57,182 --> 01:15:59,726 is going to be coming back here this morning. 1013 01:15:59,809 --> 01:16:03,104 What I can tell you is I'm not sure how long they will be staying 1014 01:16:03,188 --> 01:16:05,940 once they get here... 1015 01:16:06,024 --> 01:16:09,611 I was on the air live and Ramona Robinson, 1016 01:16:09,694 --> 01:16:12,906 who I worked with at the NBC station she goes, 1017 01:16:12,989 --> 01:16:18,328 "Remember that gift that Amanda's mother bought you?" 1018 01:16:20,288 --> 01:16:23,416 She goes, "Yeah, remember she got you a shirt and a tie 1019 01:16:23,500 --> 01:16:26,252 and she told you to wear it on the day Mandy comes home." 1020 01:16:26,336 --> 01:16:31,716 And I can't believe she bought me that and she was right again. 1021 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,177 She knew that her daughter would come home 1022 01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:38,890 and she knew she wanted me in a clean shirt and clean tie 1023 01:16:38,973 --> 01:16:42,477 to tell the world that her daughter was home. 1024 01:16:45,146 --> 01:16:48,274 I'm Bill Safos at the home of Amanda Berry. 1025 01:16:48,358 --> 01:16:50,694 It was the moment they had waited for. 1026 01:16:50,777 --> 01:16:52,487 Amanda's journey home 1027 01:16:52,570 --> 01:16:54,739 finally ending safely. 1028 01:16:54,823 --> 01:16:57,450 Louwana, if she was here, she would have 1029 01:16:57,534 --> 01:17:00,912 run around and kissed everybody and thank you and, you know... 1030 01:17:00,995 --> 01:17:02,706 She wouldn't have been able, 1031 01:17:02,789 --> 01:17:06,751 Louwana, to thank everybody enough, cos that's how she was. 1032 01:17:10,296 --> 01:17:13,008 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 1033 01:17:13,091 --> 01:17:14,759 She's home. 1034 01:17:16,803 --> 01:17:18,888 Let's now go to Lydia Esparra, 1035 01:17:18,972 --> 01:17:21,516 who is very close with the DeJesus family. 1036 01:17:21,599 --> 01:17:23,685 Good afternoon and they are so excited. 1037 01:17:23,768 --> 01:17:26,146 You can see behind me the balloons are still here, 1038 01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:28,106 they're bringing chairs in the house. 1039 01:17:28,189 --> 01:17:30,150 There's a sense of a party atmosphere. 1040 01:17:30,233 --> 01:17:32,110 Everyone's so excited. 1041 01:17:32,193 --> 01:17:35,864 Well, I was happy to go to the house, 1042 01:17:35,947 --> 01:17:38,992 to walk in the door for my first time. 1043 01:17:39,075 --> 01:17:41,161 My mom kept saying on the interviews, 1044 01:17:41,244 --> 01:17:43,872 "My daughter's gonna walk through the front door." 1045 01:17:43,955 --> 01:17:46,082 Gina! Gina! 1046 01:17:46,166 --> 01:17:48,585 Gina! Gina! Gina! 1047 01:17:48,668 --> 01:17:52,672 I look at my mom and like tears came down my face 1048 01:17:52,756 --> 01:17:55,258 and I was thinking, "Oh, my God I'm finally home." 1049 01:17:55,342 --> 01:17:58,303 So there was, like, happy thoughts, but I started crying. 1050 01:17:58,386 --> 01:18:01,222 Gina! Gina! Gina! 1051 01:18:01,348 --> 01:18:03,433 (CHEERING) 1052 01:18:07,896 --> 01:18:11,483 When Gina came home, I did what I did when she was born. 1053 01:18:11,566 --> 01:18:15,445 When a baby is born, the first thing you do is check the fingers, 1054 01:18:15,528 --> 01:18:19,115 check the toes, the legs, arms, and that's what I did. 1055 01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:21,368 I was patting her down and checking her. 1056 01:18:21,451 --> 01:18:24,454 Making sure everything was there, I guess, I dunno. 1057 01:18:24,537 --> 01:18:26,206 (CHEERING) 1058 01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:31,044 My first reaction as I saw my daughter... 1059 01:18:32,545 --> 01:18:37,884 ..the only thing I did was grab her and hug her. I didn't wanna let go. 1060 01:18:37,967 --> 01:18:41,680 We would like to thank everyone, 1061 01:18:41,763 --> 01:18:45,767 especially Lydia Esparra and Bill Safos 1062 01:18:45,850 --> 01:18:47,936 from Channel 19 Action News. 1063 01:18:48,019 --> 01:18:51,314 And thank you, guys, the both of you, because I know, 1064 01:18:51,398 --> 01:18:54,609 we started covering this story together ten years ago. 1065 01:18:54,693 --> 01:18:57,195 The two of you, unlike a lot of reporters 1066 01:18:57,278 --> 01:18:59,364 who move on to the next story, 1067 01:18:59,447 --> 01:19:02,242 the two of you kept in touch with those families. 1068 01:19:02,325 --> 01:19:05,286 Kept telling their stories and that's why 1069 01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:09,040 they were thanking you this afternoon, so well deserved. 1070 01:19:09,124 --> 01:19:11,376 Thank you. Oh, our pleasure, Ramona. 1071 01:19:11,459 --> 01:19:14,254 It was our pleasure. They deserve all the credit. 1072 01:19:18,925 --> 01:19:20,719 Unfortunately that homecoming 1073 01:19:20,802 --> 01:19:22,595 wasn't there for Michelle. 1074 01:19:22,679 --> 01:19:26,016 And I felt so sorry, sad for her. 1075 01:19:26,099 --> 01:19:31,021 And the worst part for Michelle too is she had to watch the TV 1076 01:19:31,104 --> 01:19:34,607 knowing that Gina's family and Amanda's family, 1077 01:19:34,691 --> 01:19:36,776 they were looking for them. 1078 01:19:36,860 --> 01:19:39,612 And nobody was ever looking for Michelle. 1079 01:19:42,824 --> 01:19:47,370 I felt like the person that had a nameless face. 1080 01:19:49,497 --> 01:19:52,000 I felt like the forgotten one. 1081 01:19:52,083 --> 01:19:57,088 When someone says, "Oh, well your mom was looking for you, 1082 01:19:57,172 --> 01:19:59,424 but it wasn't that extreme." 1083 01:19:59,507 --> 01:20:01,176 They told her to come back. 1084 01:20:01,259 --> 01:20:04,804 They told her to recheck and she didn't do that. 1085 01:20:04,888 --> 01:20:07,265 So, therefore, they closed the case. 1086 01:20:08,767 --> 01:20:11,811 And we dropped the ball, you know, she was reported missing 1087 01:20:11,895 --> 01:20:15,065 in the first district but went missing in the second district. 1088 01:20:15,148 --> 01:20:17,484 It was... 1089 01:20:17,567 --> 01:20:23,156 There was no contact follow-up to the police. 1090 01:20:24,366 --> 01:20:26,076 We missed something. 1091 01:20:27,202 --> 01:20:29,704 My impressions of the house when I walked through it 1092 01:20:29,788 --> 01:20:34,084 were that there was very little outdoor or natural light. 1093 01:20:34,167 --> 01:20:38,254 The closet doors had been removed from the closets, 1094 01:20:38,338 --> 01:20:42,300 screwed onto the wall to cover the windows. 1095 01:20:44,135 --> 01:20:47,555 The things that were shocking to me were the chains. 1096 01:20:49,516 --> 01:20:53,103 The chains that were used to keep the girls in confinement. 1097 01:20:55,271 --> 01:20:59,567 Those items to me spoke volumes 1098 01:20:59,651 --> 01:21:03,405 when the amount of chains that were removed from the house. 1099 01:21:04,698 --> 01:21:07,534 They were rusty, they were heavy. 1100 01:21:09,869 --> 01:21:13,790 Every day more news came out about what happened 1101 01:21:13,873 --> 01:21:15,875 inside that house of horrors 1102 01:21:15,959 --> 01:21:19,713 and how she was kidnapped and that it was a friend of theirs. 1103 01:21:19,796 --> 01:21:22,841 And that same friend of theirs, Ariel Castro, 1104 01:21:22,924 --> 01:21:27,178 even played at my church in Youngstown at a church festival. 1105 01:21:27,262 --> 01:21:30,348 I remember cos he would wear this cap and I remember him there 1106 01:21:30,432 --> 01:21:33,309 and I'm like, "(BLEEP)! That guy was at my church 1107 01:21:33,393 --> 01:21:35,562 while he was holding these girls hostage." 1108 01:21:39,065 --> 01:21:41,401 I'm up here in the court room on the third floor 1109 01:21:41,484 --> 01:21:43,653 where he will be brought in before the Judge. 1110 01:21:43,737 --> 01:21:46,990 Ariel Castro is the man who perpetrated these crimes, 1111 01:21:47,073 --> 01:21:50,118 kidnapping and raping Amanda, Gina and Michelle. 1112 01:21:51,619 --> 01:21:54,873 He was the bus driver that took kids to and from that middle school 1113 01:21:54,956 --> 01:21:56,666 that they both attended 1114 01:21:56,750 --> 01:21:59,878 so they knew him and he knew the girls. 1115 01:21:59,961 --> 01:22:01,671 All rise. 1116 01:22:01,755 --> 01:22:04,924 Ariel Castro had a big personnel file at that middle school. 1117 01:22:05,008 --> 01:22:07,469 We didn't get it because, when I did 1118 01:22:07,552 --> 01:22:12,515 the Freedom of Information Act request they gave me all these files 1119 01:22:12,599 --> 01:22:15,852 to all the people that worked in that middle school. 1120 01:22:15,935 --> 01:22:18,438 I didn't get Ariel Castro's file 1121 01:22:18,521 --> 01:22:21,733 because I didn't ask for the former employees. 1122 01:22:22,901 --> 01:22:24,986 Ariel Castro. 1123 01:22:25,070 --> 01:22:28,448 Once you heard the name, you knew who it was. 1124 01:22:28,531 --> 01:22:32,327 I mean, if you're from that area, are-are you kidding me? 1125 01:22:32,410 --> 01:22:34,537 I'd seen him, I'd known him. 1126 01:22:34,621 --> 01:22:38,166 I... He'd ride down the street from where I hung out a lot 1127 01:22:38,249 --> 01:22:40,960 and where I've been by a million times. 1128 01:22:43,088 --> 01:22:45,173 (POLICE RADIO) 1129 01:22:46,299 --> 01:22:48,385 I had an arrest early in the morning, 1130 01:22:48,468 --> 01:22:52,263 and while I'm getting the prints and photos, I hear somebody say, 1131 01:22:52,347 --> 01:22:56,518 "(SPEAKS SPANISH)" 1132 01:22:56,601 --> 01:22:58,895 "How are you doing? What's going on?" 1133 01:22:58,978 --> 01:23:01,481 And I turn over like this and there he is. 1134 01:23:02,857 --> 01:23:04,651 And he's in a jail cell. 1135 01:23:04,734 --> 01:23:07,153 And he goes, "(SPEAKS SPANISH)" 1136 01:23:07,237 --> 01:23:11,658 "How are you doing?" And I said, "I'm OK." I said, "How are you?" 1137 01:23:11,741 --> 01:23:15,995 And he goes, "Man, I really (BLEEP) up this time, huh?" 1138 01:23:16,079 --> 01:23:21,334 And I said, "Yeah. How dare you do this to these girls? 1139 01:23:21,418 --> 01:23:23,294 Ten years?!" 1140 01:23:23,378 --> 01:23:25,714 And I said, I said, "And Gina. 1141 01:23:25,797 --> 01:23:27,882 You've known Felix for how many years? 1142 01:23:27,966 --> 01:23:32,012 We've known him for how many years? How can you do this? I mean..." 1143 01:23:32,095 --> 01:23:34,097 He said, "I'm a victim too." 1144 01:23:34,180 --> 01:23:36,307 I said, "How the hell are you a victim?" 1145 01:23:36,391 --> 01:23:40,395 "Well, you know, this happened to me when I was back in Puerto Rico when I was a kid. 1146 01:23:40,478 --> 01:23:42,564 I was violated too." 1147 01:23:45,525 --> 01:23:48,319 And I'm standing on the other side of the cell and I said, 1148 01:23:48,403 --> 01:23:50,196 "God, thank you for these bars." 1149 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,532 Because I'm trying to be a policeman, 1150 01:23:52,615 --> 01:23:55,660 I'm trying to be somebody who knows and I'm trying to be human. 1151 01:23:55,744 --> 01:23:59,581 It's all just...all this stuff in my head just swirling around, like, 1152 01:23:59,664 --> 01:24:03,335 you know how many people'd like to be 2' from this guy right now? 1153 01:24:03,418 --> 01:24:05,170 Millions. 1154 01:24:05,253 --> 01:24:08,381 (POLICE RADIO, INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1155 01:24:09,632 --> 01:24:13,636 I towed cars right in front of that house with my partner. 1156 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:18,016 And then when I find out where it's at, I said, "Are you kidding me?" 1157 01:24:18,099 --> 01:24:20,226 I was on that street in front of that house 1158 01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:23,188 and they're in there and I can't do nothing about it. 1159 01:24:23,271 --> 01:24:26,107 Tell me that doesn't hurt. 1160 01:24:27,442 --> 01:24:29,319 (SOBS) All right... 1161 01:24:35,617 --> 01:24:38,244 Neighbours say they noticed something was off 1162 01:24:38,328 --> 01:24:42,499 when the former school bus driver became increasingly reclusive. 1163 01:24:42,582 --> 01:24:45,085 In the past 15 years, police response... 1164 01:24:45,168 --> 01:24:48,755 It hit home when he got caught. 1165 01:24:50,965 --> 01:24:53,385 To know the person... 1166 01:24:54,511 --> 01:24:57,639 ..that did this to your daughter... 1167 01:25:01,351 --> 01:25:03,853 Back in the day before this happened to Gina, 1168 01:25:03,937 --> 01:25:07,899 I used to live two houses down from where he lived then. 1169 01:25:10,026 --> 01:25:15,240 And we knew his daughter cos that's the one that Gina was hanging with. 1170 01:25:17,742 --> 01:25:20,120 I mean... 1171 01:25:21,496 --> 01:25:24,416 This sick person. 1172 01:25:24,499 --> 01:25:26,584 How could you...? 1173 01:25:26,668 --> 01:25:29,421 I mean, I couldn't believe it. 1174 01:25:40,432 --> 01:25:43,810 I thought that it was important for him to admit to us 1175 01:25:43,893 --> 01:25:48,064 during the interview that one, he took the girls and then, two, 1176 01:25:48,148 --> 01:25:53,069 he was involved in some type of sexual abuse of the girls over the years. 1177 01:26:00,410 --> 01:26:04,164 Going in, I really wanted to be non-confrontational. 1178 01:26:08,918 --> 01:26:11,004 Whether it's the truth or not, 1179 01:26:11,087 --> 01:26:14,841 I felt that it was important for him just to keep talking. 1180 01:26:38,406 --> 01:26:41,826 So we're all sitting there behind this glass, looking at each other, 1181 01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:45,038 like, "He's not hiding any of this." 1182 01:26:45,121 --> 01:26:47,832 He's saying everything. 1183 01:26:47,916 --> 01:26:50,835 Incredible. I mean, so much climax. 1184 01:26:50,919 --> 01:26:54,464 So much anxiety. So much everything building up. 1185 01:26:54,547 --> 01:26:57,467 And you expect this volcano to sputter 1186 01:26:57,550 --> 01:26:59,844 because someone's gonna not really talk. 1187 01:26:59,928 --> 01:27:02,263 And he just let it all out. 1188 01:27:18,530 --> 01:27:21,866 So what he admitted to was he took them to his house 1189 01:27:21,950 --> 01:27:24,577 and then forcibly restrained them. 1190 01:27:24,661 --> 01:27:27,872 The other thing he admitted doing there that, um, 1191 01:27:27,956 --> 01:27:33,837 he had, um, sexual encounters which would constitute a sex offence. 1192 01:27:38,591 --> 01:27:42,345 Ultimately he was charged with several hundred counts of 1193 01:27:42,429 --> 01:27:46,975 sexual assaults, physical abuses, obviously the kidnapping, 1194 01:27:47,058 --> 01:27:50,937 abduction, and then he was charged with murder, 1195 01:27:51,021 --> 01:27:54,357 for the terminations of pregnancies for Michelle. 1196 01:28:20,967 --> 01:28:23,261 He should've, you know, just... 1197 01:28:26,139 --> 01:28:30,518 ..spent those years in prison like he should've. 1198 01:28:30,602 --> 01:28:34,439 Unfortunately, he decided to take the coward's way out. 1199 01:28:37,067 --> 01:28:40,653 Within 30/31 days of him being in prison, 1200 01:28:40,737 --> 01:28:45,283 he had hung himself in his cell. 1201 01:28:46,951 --> 01:28:48,661 How is that justice? 1202 01:28:48,745 --> 01:28:52,207 If it was up to me, I' have loved to have seen him do 1,000 years 1203 01:28:52,290 --> 01:28:54,376 and pay every single day he woke up 1204 01:28:54,459 --> 01:28:57,170 for the nightmare he put upon these three girls. 1205 01:29:02,467 --> 01:29:04,969 Despite being held like that, 1206 01:29:05,053 --> 01:29:10,100 these young girls became these amazing women. 1207 01:29:10,183 --> 01:29:15,063 Despite the fact that this evil was holding them back and basically 1208 01:29:15,146 --> 01:29:20,944 in cages, they still defied that and became amazing women, 1209 01:29:21,027 --> 01:29:24,864 each with their own inspiring, cool story. 1210 01:29:24,948 --> 01:29:27,367 You see her every day. 1211 01:29:27,450 --> 01:29:30,245 Please stop for just a second and look at your TV. 1212 01:29:30,328 --> 01:29:33,873 You may know something that can bring this missing person home. 1213 01:29:33,957 --> 01:29:36,876 Amanda Berry joined our Fox 8 family. 1214 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,713 Since then every time Amanda's segment airs, 1215 01:29:39,796 --> 01:29:41,464 the tip line lights up. 1216 01:29:41,548 --> 01:29:43,842 I look up to her even more now. 1217 01:29:43,925 --> 01:29:45,802 She's doing the news, 1218 01:29:45,885 --> 01:29:48,972 she's raising her daughter. 1219 01:29:49,055 --> 01:29:52,225 Everything that she's gone through that, 1220 01:29:52,308 --> 01:29:54,602 the resilience that she has had, 1221 01:29:54,686 --> 01:29:57,814 you know, that...it's just amazing. 1222 01:30:01,985 --> 01:30:07,365 This is my office for the Cleveland Family Center For Missing Children and Adults. 1223 01:30:07,449 --> 01:30:11,411 We help families navigate the media. 1224 01:30:13,038 --> 01:30:15,457 We teach them to always do interviews 1225 01:30:15,540 --> 01:30:18,960 cos what if they're missing loved one has a TV? 1226 01:30:19,044 --> 01:30:22,839 It could give some hope to fight to come back home to their parents. 1227 01:30:24,257 --> 01:30:27,802 I get to see what families go through, 1228 01:30:27,886 --> 01:30:31,639 it was kinda like what my mom and dad went through, 1229 01:30:31,723 --> 01:30:34,642 but it's like right there in front. 1230 01:30:34,726 --> 01:30:37,437 I just wanna help them. 1231 01:30:46,488 --> 01:30:50,492 I've been actually doing what they call art to heal, 1232 01:30:50,575 --> 01:30:54,537 where you paint a picture that expresses how you feel that day. 1233 01:30:55,747 --> 01:30:58,917 It can be anything. It can be a pretty picture of the sea. 1234 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,337 It can be a pretty picture of the night-time. 1235 01:31:04,047 --> 01:31:08,551 My main focus in life is my non-profit 1236 01:31:08,635 --> 01:31:11,221 and it travels around the world 1237 01:31:11,304 --> 01:31:16,851 helping women of abuse transition their life. 1238 01:31:26,736 --> 01:31:28,405 And it's so sad that we had to 1239 01:31:28,488 --> 01:31:31,157 go through what we went through, 1240 01:31:31,241 --> 01:31:33,118 but it made us stronger. 1241 01:31:33,201 --> 01:31:35,745 It made us more powerful 1242 01:31:35,829 --> 01:31:39,165 and I'm glad that we're out 1243 01:31:39,249 --> 01:31:41,584 and we're alive now and we're doing good. 1244 01:31:41,668 --> 01:31:43,336 Subtitles by Deluxe 1245 01:31:43,420 --> 01:31:44,462 \h 98443

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