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WOMAN: I just want people to know
that she's still missing.
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And, if anybody out there has
a heart and they know anything
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that happened to Amanda,
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just please pick up the phone
and call the police department.
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I saved a lot of things.
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And I'm not sure why.
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I can't believe that I'm sitting
here talking about it.
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Oh, God, I shouldn't say this.
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NEWSREADER: Amanda disappeared on
her way home after leaving her job
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at Burger King
on West 100th, 10th and Lorraine,
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a day before her 17th birthday.
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I just need to know.
It's killing me.
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I need to find out what happened
with my daughter.
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That story, sure,
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it was probably the most important
story of my whole career.
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Welcome back, everyone. Cleveland
Police are asking for your help
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to find a missing 14-year-old girl.
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Her name is Georgina DeJesus.
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She's been missing since after
school yesterday.
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I wanted to know what kind of evil
would do something like this.
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Can I tell this story?
I don't think I should.
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Cleveland Police detectives
and now 15 FBI agents
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aggressively working
this mysterious disappearance.
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Amanda Berry vanished,
seemingly into thin air.
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It's a life and death thing.
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Whoever got 'em,
let these two children go home.
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I had no idea
that evil could be so...
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..close.
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Mark. My name's Bill Safos.
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I was a television reporter for
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many, many years.
33 years, maybe.
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When my family emigrated to the US
from Greece, I was the youngest.
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We bought our first TV.
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I remember, you know, my brother
and I were so excited.
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And my brother wanted cartoons and
things that kids watch.
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But then I got used to watching
the news and trying to figure out
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what they were saying and I learned
to speak English and I translated.
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I told my dad what was happening.
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Back then, Ohio State had a great
journalism programme,
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and that's where I wanted to go
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and I ended up getting a job at
the NBC station there in Columbus.
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Take a look at Court Street today.
Things pretty much back to normal.
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You can see most of the shops are
open,
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everything as a matter of fact is
open.
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'You know, I never wanted to sit in
the TV station all day long.'
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They toppled buildings and destroyed
lives
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and, at the same time, they
strengthened the American spirit.
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We have, joining us...
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'I wanted to go out and meet people
and do different things every day.'
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I just loved doing it.
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Until...
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..the day I met Louwana Miller.
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I remember sitting in the newsroom
and I saw these people, you know,
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we'd get a lot of people
coming into the TV station.
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So there's people coming and going
all day long.
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But some, for some reason, they
caught my eye.
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And I said,
"Hey, who are those people?
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What's their deal?"
And the receptionist is, like,
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"Oh, it's a mom whose daughter is
missing."
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And right away,
within the first few minutes,
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I knew it was the real deal.
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That when Louwana's daughter,
Amanda, didn't come home,
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that something was wrong.
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Somebody has this kid
and we gotta do something now.
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Amanda worked at Burger King.
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And Louwana told me
Amanda never liked to walk home.
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It isn't the best
of neighbourhoods,
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so Louwana said she always got a
ride home
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or we would tell her to wait.
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But that night,
they were on the phone together
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and Amanda says, "I have a ride."
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She kept saying, "Amanda would have
never got in a car with a stranger.
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That was her big thing.
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"She would have never got in a car
with a stranger."
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And I know she didn't run away,
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because she had
a good life at home.
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I can't see nothing.
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You have to do this.
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I don't know how to do it.
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Just in case?
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He's waiting too.
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Yeah. (LAUGHS) Take it back.
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(LAUGHS) What?
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER CONTINUES)
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I was 12 years old, it was 2003,
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when she came up missing.
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I looked up to her.
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In school, she was, like,
as far as I know,
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she was a straight A student.
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And she would tutor me sometimes,
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you know, with math and stuff
like that.
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I would always hang out in her
bedroom
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and play Super Nintendo in
her Play Station.
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She loved to write music and R&B,
and she loved shoes.
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She loved, like, name brand stuff,
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like, you know,
just anything name brand.
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I just keep hoping that
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she's out there somewhere
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and she'll come home.
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Amanda Berry's mother has
spent days wandering about
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and searching for
her 17-year-old daughter.
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Trying to hang in there.
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She held my feet to the fire.
She wanted it in every newscast.
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"I wanna see Mandy on the news,
I want her picture...
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I want people to, you know...
Cos somebody saw something.
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Somebody knows something,
so put her picture on TV.
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Help me. Please, help me."
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I want my daughter home, man,
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and if she can't come home,
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I just wanna know where she's at.
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Most people thought she ran away...
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..even the police officer that came
that night.
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So, it took a while
before they, you know,
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"Hey, maybe something happened
here."
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This wasn't your typical missing
person case.
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There was no crime scene,
there was no witnesses.
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So detectives went out and started,
well, they talked to the family,
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talked to the people
at Burger King.
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They talked to friends,
schoolmates,
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and just tried to get as much
information as they could.
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There were a lot of tips that you
have to disprove and run 'em down.
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There was just nothing to 'em.
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Louwana Miller sits by the phone.
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It rings often,
but it's never the call she wants.
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But tonight, Cleveland FBI says
a phone call to Amanda's mother
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one week after her daughter's
disappearance may hold the key.
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I get a phone call and it's an
unknown male
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who just says that Mandy's with him
and she's all right.
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So I just kept him on the phone
for as long as I could,
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to see if I could hear maybe
my daughter in the background.
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And then what? Then he hangs up.
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When the phone call happened,
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Louwana called me
and told me about it.
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She's, like,
"You're not gonna believe this.
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I got a phone call," she said,
"from the guy that has Mandy."
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He told me not to worry about her
and she's fine.
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But he called me
from her cell phone.
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I remember telling her,
"Well, that's great,
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because the FBI's gonna be able
to figure out where he is."
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They can track that stuff.
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FBI got the Chronicle people
involved
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and were using equipment
that I didn't know existed.
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We believed that call bounced off
one particular tower.
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So what we did was, we went for
that tower
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and we drew a slice of the pie,
like this.
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And went and knocked at every door,
interviewed every person,
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searched every vacant cemetery.
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It gave me hope that,
you know what? She's alive.
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She's in a house, an apartment or
location somewhere,
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and that there's a chance that we
will find her.
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When Louwana found out the tower
that that cell phone call hit,
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she was...obsessed.
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We went there, saw the tower,
we were in that neighbourhood.
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Louwana told me,
"I feel my daughter, Bill.
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I know she's alive
and she's somewhere close to me."
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And she was so right.
She was so right.
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And it's so crazy
that we were so close.
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(LATIN DANCE MUSIC)
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(HORN HONKS)
MAN: Hey!
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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(MUSIC CONTINUES)
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I grew up around here as a kid,
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pretty much my whole life,
until when I graduated.
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My high school was right down the
street there.
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And this was
a very, very tight-knit
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predominantly Puerto Rican
neighbourhood.
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So everyone pretty much knew each
other,
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everybody hung out with each other.
The families all knew each other.
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And it was a great place
to grow up in.
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We all pretty much had each other
here.
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The Castro family was one of the
first families
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to come from Puerto Rico into
Cleveland.
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They were well-known.
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Cessi Castro, I have nothing
but the utmost respect for him.
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He was
almost like a father to my father.
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And I literally grew up
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in that store that he owned.
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So this is Cessi's store,
was Cessi's store.
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That's where we would meet for
our Christmas parties.
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We'd go back there, play music and
everybody hung out with each other.
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Cessi Castro was Ariel Castro's
uncle.
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Ariel Castro lived
literally down the street.
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I mean, from the corner store
to where his house was,
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I think it's half a block.
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I'm sitting on this front porch
every day and I'm looking.
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Puerto Rican dude
across the street.
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I said, I said, "Look, sit right
here, let me talk to you."
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"This dude next door,
what's his name?"
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"Ariel."
"Why is his house boarded up?"
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I don't see no
air conditioning unit.
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it's gotta be stifling
in that house.
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I'm outside dying right now, right.
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He's like, "He's Puerto Rican."
"Well, you're Puerto Rican."
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I go, "I see your mother
got Central Air.
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Why is that house boarded up?"
"You ask too many questions."
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"Is that right?"
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I want to know
why he lived that way.
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It was something about him that
captivated me,
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but I couldn't put my
finger on it.
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Tattered fliers are
all that's left to remind us
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that Amanda Berry vanished
almost six months ago.
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I just want people to know that
she's still missing.
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If anybody out there has a heart,
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and they know anything
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that happened to Amanda,
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just please pick up the phone
and call the police department.
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Louwana was just very upset.
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I mean, she would see on the news
a dog missing
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and she got very upset that
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the dog got that much time
on the news and Amanda didn't.
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I'll never forget that.
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She even called up
all the stations.
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She did everything. She was very
upset with that.
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I told them that I would fight
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and try and put Mandy's picture
on the air as much as I can.
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But if she didn't see her daughter's
picture on the 11 o'clock news,
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at 11:30, my phone was ringing
and she'd be like,
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"Bill, why wasn't Mandy's picture
on the news?"
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And she would, like, scream and yell
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but, in the middle of all this
sobbing,
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crying, it was just like... (SIGHS)
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So, I let her, for the next,
you know, three hours,
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you know, I'd put the phone on my
pillow
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and eventually I would fall asleep
and she'd still be screaming at me.
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But, um, and then I'd wake up, you
know,
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to go to work at 3:00am to do the
morning show
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and she'd still be on the phone.
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I'd be like, "OK, I gotta get to
work."
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If anybody knows anything about my
daughter...
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..I wish somebody would come
forward,
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cos somebody out there knows
something.
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After the story and the case started
to get cold,
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Louwana, like any parent who never
got to see their kid again
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would get frustrated and worried
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and think that police and
the FBI aren't doing enough.
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So, Louwana arranged for the FBI
to come to her house.
240
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I was in the living room
when he got there and I'm like,
241
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"Oh, my God, Louwana, I'm leaving.
242
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I'll call you.
Call me when he leaves."
243
00:17:01,855 --> 00:17:04,065
"No, Bill, you're not leaving."
244
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And her friend was there too and
they pushed me in the bedroom
245
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and she's like, "Lay on the floor."
246
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And then she took the
bedspread from the bed
247
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and just kind of like covered me up.
248
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And the two of 'em went onto the
living room and this FBI agent's,
249
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you know, discussing all kinds of
things that definitely are
interesting.
250
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I wish I had a notepad.
251
00:17:31,843 --> 00:17:36,389
But they must have had a list there
and they were going down,
252
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talking about people of interest.
253
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You know, who might end up being
suspects, or whatever.
254
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Well, next thing I know, her friend
brought it into me and was like,
255
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"Here." I'm like, "You guys did not
just take that from an FBI agent!"
256
00:17:55,867 --> 00:17:59,120
And I'm like, "Oh, my God, they're
gonna get me in trouble
257
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for interfering with this guy's
official business."
258
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And, um... But, of course,
I was like, I'm like, looking.
259
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And that's the list that Louwana and
I started looking at
260
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and those are the people we started
spying on,
261
00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:19,432
doing our own surveillance.
262
00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:24,604
There were all sorts of people,
263
00:18:24,688 --> 00:18:29,359
there were sex offenders in the
neighbourhood, drug dealers...
264
00:18:31,528 --> 00:18:35,782
After going through that whole list,
she wasn't satisfied,
265
00:18:35,865 --> 00:18:41,705
but she wasn't as upset that they
weren't finding anything,
266
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because we weren't finding
anything either.
267
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Thank you all very much for being
here. I appreciate it.
268
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She was determined to get her
daughter home. No, she didn't care.
269
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She thought they weren't gonna do
it, she was gonna do it herself.
270
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And, um...
271
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If she wasn't gonna do it herself,
she was gonna make me do it.
272
00:19:04,394 --> 00:19:07,605
But, uh, and somehow, I listened to
her,
273
00:19:07,689 --> 00:19:11,276
because it was the right
thing to do.
274
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Not the right thing here, but the
right thing here, it was. It was.
275
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She could rely on him
for everything, always.
276
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And so, she goes, "Let's go shop."
And I said, "OK", I said,
277
00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,583
"What do you wanna do?" She goes,
278
00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:30,795
"I wanna buy Bill
a nice shirt and tie."
279
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She's like, "It's a blue shirt and
a tie and I want you to wear it,
280
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the day Mandy comes home."
281
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And I said, "OK."
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(NEWS JINGLE)
283
00:19:56,780 --> 00:19:58,490
Welcome back, everyone.
284
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Cleveland Police are asking for
your help tonight,
285
00:20:01,242 --> 00:20:03,328
to find a missing 14-year-old girl.
286
00:20:03,411 --> 00:20:06,664
Here is her picture.
Her name is Georgina DeJesus.
287
00:20:06,748 --> 00:20:09,042
The teen's family says she's been
missing
288
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since after school yesterday
and does not...
289
00:20:11,795 --> 00:20:15,632
I was shocked, it was another girl,
the same neighbourhood,
290
00:20:15,715 --> 00:20:21,721
the same body type,
it just seemed like the same story.
291
00:20:21,805 --> 00:20:25,058
But exactly almost to the day,
a year later.
292
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She does not have
a history of running away.
293
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She goes by the name Gina.
294
00:20:35,777 --> 00:20:38,238
Please call Cleveland Police,
if you've seen her.
295
00:20:38,321 --> 00:20:42,033
Right away, I just got
this horrible feeling that...
296
00:20:44,452 --> 00:20:48,289
..this might be related to Amanda.
297
00:20:58,508 --> 00:21:03,054
It started out as a beautiful day
for me, you know, same routine.
298
00:21:03,138 --> 00:21:07,142
I woke up, I gave her a hug and a
kiss, told her I loved her,
299
00:21:07,225 --> 00:21:11,730
she left with her father that
took her to school in the morning.
300
00:21:13,857 --> 00:21:18,194
At 2:30, three o'clock,
she didn't come home.
301
00:21:18,278 --> 00:21:20,739
So I was, "Wait a minute, let me
give her 30 minutes,
302
00:21:20,822 --> 00:21:22,574
cos maybe she stopped.
303
00:21:22,657 --> 00:21:25,493
She's probably joking around with
the other kids and that,"
304
00:21:25,577 --> 00:21:27,746
which would be a normal routine for
her.
305
00:21:27,829 --> 00:21:30,749
But, when I noticed 30 minutes went
by,
306
00:21:30,832 --> 00:21:32,792
that's when I got really worried,
307
00:21:32,876 --> 00:21:34,961
because she should have had been
home.
308
00:21:38,006 --> 00:21:40,300
My mom was like, "There's something
going on."
309
00:21:40,383 --> 00:21:43,762
"Mom, what are you talking about?"
She's like, "Gina isn't home yet."
310
00:21:43,845 --> 00:21:46,473
I'm like, "She probably went to
her friend's house."
311
00:21:46,556 --> 00:21:49,517
"No, it's too late,
I've called her friends.
312
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No-one has seen her.
313
00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:53,855
Mayra, something's wrong."
314
00:21:57,650 --> 00:22:01,780
I drove back to the school, I must
have searched
315
00:22:01,863 --> 00:22:05,200
for at least a good hour.
316
00:22:05,283 --> 00:22:09,245
Didn't see nothing.
Nobody's around.
317
00:22:09,329 --> 00:22:13,124
Got back in the car, went back to
the house.
318
00:22:13,208 --> 00:22:18,755
Right there and then I started
feeling Gina's in a lot of trouble.
319
00:22:22,342 --> 00:22:25,970
Another emotional day, as a family
hopes for the safe return of
320
00:22:26,054 --> 00:22:28,014
their 14-year-old daughter.
321
00:22:28,098 --> 00:22:31,976
Searching for Gina, after she
disappears without a trace.
322
00:22:34,270 --> 00:22:36,815
You know, she left school, she
walked to her friend,
323
00:22:36,898 --> 00:22:40,068
they wanted to have a sleepover,
324
00:22:40,151 --> 00:22:43,029
at least get together after school,
they went to a pay phone.
325
00:22:43,113 --> 00:22:44,781
The friend left.
326
00:22:44,864 --> 00:22:47,575
And Gina was last seen walking
eastbound on Lorraine.
327
00:22:47,659 --> 00:22:49,452
That's what we knew.
328
00:22:49,536 --> 00:22:52,747
We went over the area, there's
cameras everywhere.
329
00:22:52,831 --> 00:22:55,250
Closed down all four streets
330
00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:57,419
of that whole area on Fitz and
Lorraine,
331
00:22:57,502 --> 00:22:59,587
which is kind of a big, busy area.
332
00:22:59,671 --> 00:23:01,631
And then let the dog do his thing,
333
00:23:01,715 --> 00:23:05,301
and the dog went to the pay phone
in the exact location,
334
00:23:05,385 --> 00:23:10,724
where we knew she last was
and nothing after that.
335
00:23:10,807 --> 00:23:13,184
Hundreds of people,
including Gina's family,
336
00:23:13,268 --> 00:23:16,730
met at this phone booth on
West 105th and Lorraine Avenue,
337
00:23:16,813 --> 00:23:18,940
for a candlelight vigil and prayer.
338
00:23:19,024 --> 00:23:22,027
This is the last place Gina
was seen on Friday.
339
00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:25,613
Her friend, Arlene Castro, was with
her before they parted ways.
340
00:23:25,697 --> 00:23:28,616
The last thing she said to me was,
"You owe me 50 cents."
341
00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:33,913
Felix, her father, got the rest of
my children together
342
00:23:33,997 --> 00:23:36,666
and two of my nephews, part of his
family.
343
00:23:36,750 --> 00:23:42,088
They were literally looking into
dumpsters for my daughter.
344
00:23:44,716 --> 00:23:49,095
Didn't sleep, didn't eat.
345
00:23:49,179 --> 00:23:51,264
I wasn't thinking of none of that.
346
00:23:51,348 --> 00:23:55,810
My days went where I wanted to get
and find my daughter.
347
00:23:55,894 --> 00:23:58,438
I wanted my daughter home.
348
00:24:00,148 --> 00:24:01,816
Oh!
349
00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:03,777
(LAUGHS)
350
00:24:03,860 --> 00:24:05,737
Oh, yeah.
351
00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:08,323
I think
I didn't do my job very well.
352
00:24:08,406 --> 00:24:10,367
This is for who?
353
00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:12,410
As a protector,
354
00:24:12,494 --> 00:24:17,749
I put it on my fault that
this happened to my child.
355
00:24:17,832 --> 00:24:22,253
I felt that I, right there
and then, that I have failed.
356
00:24:30,762 --> 00:24:34,474
I'm sitting in the editorial
meetings and somebody said,
357
00:24:34,557 --> 00:24:37,477
"Oh, there's another missing girl.
Who wants to cover it?"
358
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,771
This one is on the west
side of Cleveland.
359
00:24:39,854 --> 00:24:41,940
They gave a little bit
of background on it
360
00:24:42,023 --> 00:24:44,567
and then they said
her name was "Gina DeJesus".
361
00:24:44,651 --> 00:24:48,279
"Hm, that sounds Puerto Rican." So
I say, "Hey, I'll take the story,"
362
00:24:48,363 --> 00:24:52,784
because I felt that me being
Puerto Rican would maybe help them
363
00:24:52,867 --> 00:24:55,912
feel a little bit more comfortable.
364
00:24:55,995 --> 00:25:00,125
So I went over, and Nancy does
the interview and she goes,
365
00:25:00,208 --> 00:25:02,210
"My daughter did not run away."
366
00:25:02,293 --> 00:25:04,254
I said, "What? Are you sure?"
367
00:25:04,337 --> 00:25:09,092
She goes, "Yeah. Why would she run
away?" She had no issues with us.
368
00:25:09,175 --> 00:25:12,595
There's no way
my daughter ran away."
369
00:25:13,763 --> 00:25:18,351
In my heart, I know she's still out
there and, in my heart,
370
00:25:18,435 --> 00:25:22,439
I think, maybe, going with
the mother's intuition...
371
00:25:23,565 --> 00:25:25,734
..I couldn't feel her being gone.
372
00:25:29,487 --> 00:25:33,158
I would tell Nancy, like,
"Are you sure she's not dead?"
373
00:25:33,241 --> 00:25:38,163
She goes, "Nope, my daughter's not
dead. I know my daughter's alive.
374
00:25:38,246 --> 00:25:40,623
I would feel it
if my daughter was dead.
375
00:25:40,707 --> 00:25:42,834
Somebody has her.
Somebody has her."
376
00:25:46,463 --> 00:25:50,008
And we still have the hope that she
is gonna walk through our door.
377
00:25:50,091 --> 00:25:54,262
If by chance, if she can see this,
I just tell her,
378
00:25:54,346 --> 00:25:57,057
just to keep her faith
379
00:25:57,140 --> 00:26:00,268
and that we will find her
and she will be coming home.
380
00:26:03,730 --> 00:26:06,983
I watched the news
to see my parents on there.
381
00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:15,325
My name is Janet DeJesus.
382
00:26:16,576 --> 00:26:20,205
My mom and dad's named Nancy and
Felix.
383
00:26:21,790 --> 00:26:23,958
It helped, seeing my parents on TV,
384
00:26:24,042 --> 00:26:28,755
so I would cry sometimes
385
00:26:28,838 --> 00:26:31,508
and then I'd be like,
386
00:26:31,591 --> 00:26:33,802
"They're still out there."
387
00:26:33,885 --> 00:26:39,057
It gave me hope and I think
that's what really kept me going.
388
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,323
That day,
I'd get up like a normal day.
389
00:26:57,242 --> 00:27:03,123
School was let out at, like, 2:30,
and I had my bus money,
390
00:27:03,206 --> 00:27:08,211
but sometimes I liked to just walk
home with my friends.
391
00:27:10,213 --> 00:27:13,049
And I was like,
"You wanna come over and hang out?"
392
00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:15,010
She's like,
"I have to call my mom."
393
00:27:15,093 --> 00:27:18,596
So I gave her 50 cents to call
her mom
394
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,266
and she asked her mom
and she said no.
395
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,270
And she went one way,
I went the opposite way.
396
00:27:30,608 --> 00:27:34,029
Her dad was, I guess, watching us
397
00:27:34,112 --> 00:27:38,491
and he looked up and asked me
if I'd seen his daughter.
398
00:27:39,784 --> 00:27:43,121
He asked me if I'd help him
find her and I said, "OK."
399
00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:49,753
I finally got a little nervous, cos
he didn't turn around,
400
00:27:49,836 --> 00:27:53,298
but then he said, he needed
to get something from his house.
401
00:27:54,466 --> 00:27:58,762
I was like, "OK." And I was like,
I guess in my own way,
402
00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:04,225
tried to convince myself that, "No,
I know him, he's my friend's dad.
403
00:28:07,354 --> 00:28:09,439
He knows my parents."
404
00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:11,608
So I didn't really
think nothing of it.
405
00:28:17,739 --> 00:28:21,868
Well, he asked me to help him bring
out the speaker
406
00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:24,704
and he just closed the door.
407
00:28:28,166 --> 00:28:33,213
Turned out to be the basement and
he told me that I couldn't go home.
408
00:28:37,175 --> 00:28:41,262
My own thing was to try to get out
of the house
409
00:28:41,346 --> 00:28:43,848
and get back home to my parents.
410
00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:49,854
And I was trying to figure out how
to like, undo the lock,
411
00:28:49,938 --> 00:28:54,192
but I couldn't, because my hands
was tied and my mouth was taped.
412
00:28:59,239 --> 00:29:02,784
I don't wanna talk about
what he did to me.
413
00:29:09,082 --> 00:29:11,751
I don't wanna go there.
414
00:29:19,592 --> 00:29:21,928
Tomorrow night at 9:00pm,
415
00:29:22,012 --> 00:29:25,932
the entire nation will get a chance
to join the hunt for Gina DeJesus.
416
00:29:26,016 --> 00:29:28,935
The 14-year-old's disappearance
will be featured on
417
00:29:29,019 --> 00:29:31,021
Fox's America's Most Wanted.
418
00:29:31,104 --> 00:29:34,065
Meanwhile, local law enforcement
authorities and the FBI
419
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:37,152
continue to search for signs of
the teen.
420
00:29:37,235 --> 00:29:39,988
It was bad,
but it went from bad to worse,
421
00:29:40,071 --> 00:29:42,574
because you're also dealing...
422
00:29:42,657 --> 00:29:46,953
You're only human and you're also
dealing with your own community
423
00:29:47,037 --> 00:29:50,582
and, you know, when you go
to church or go to the store,
424
00:29:50,665 --> 00:29:52,959
you see that sign up and you're
like,
425
00:29:53,043 --> 00:29:55,420
"What happened? What's going on?"
426
00:29:55,503 --> 00:30:00,508
So it... Not only as a policeman,
you have to do your job,
427
00:30:00,592 --> 00:30:04,596
but now you're dealing with
somebody from your community.
428
00:30:04,679 --> 00:30:08,183
Literally, I mean,
I knew her father Felix many years
429
00:30:08,266 --> 00:30:10,352
and, um...
430
00:30:10,435 --> 00:30:14,481
Yeah, it takes more of a toll on
you as a person from the community.
431
00:30:14,564 --> 00:30:18,026
It doesn't mean another policeman
from another city doesn't care,
432
00:30:18,109 --> 00:30:21,654
what I'm saying is you're dealing
with somebody from your community.
433
00:30:21,738 --> 00:30:23,907
From your nationality. Your people.
434
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:27,077
And it takes major... It takes a
major toll on you,
435
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,912
mentally and physically.
436
00:30:30,246 --> 00:30:32,332
At first, I didn't make the
connection
437
00:30:32,415 --> 00:30:34,292
between the two missing girls,
438
00:30:34,376 --> 00:30:39,464
and it was Bill who made the
connection between Amanda and Gina.
439
00:30:39,547 --> 00:30:42,300
He goes, "Lydia, I'm telling you
now,
440
00:30:42,384 --> 00:30:45,178
these two cases are connected."
441
00:30:45,261 --> 00:30:48,598
I said, "How do you know?" He goes,
"I don't know, it's just a feeling.
442
00:30:48,682 --> 00:30:51,393
I just think they're connected."
443
00:30:52,602 --> 00:30:55,605
I kept asking the police,
"Did you connect the cases?"
444
00:30:55,689 --> 00:30:58,400
I kept asking the FBI,
"Are the cases connected?"
445
00:30:58,483 --> 00:31:00,694
"No, no, we can't connect them.
446
00:31:00,777 --> 00:31:03,446
You know, we can't connect them
officially."
447
00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:05,407
I thought, well, we gotta, you
know...
448
00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:08,451
"If the police aren't gonna connect
the stories and talk about
449
00:31:08,535 --> 00:31:10,870
the similarities, we have to point
them out."
450
00:31:11,996 --> 00:31:14,833
I said, "I think we should introduce
the two families.
451
00:31:14,916 --> 00:31:17,544
I think they would like to meet."
452
00:31:17,627 --> 00:31:20,839
Oh, my God, I don't know what to
say to you,
453
00:31:20,922 --> 00:31:23,008
because I've waited for a whole
year.
454
00:31:23,091 --> 00:31:25,719
I just hope you don't have to wait
as long as me, man.
455
00:31:25,802 --> 00:31:31,266
So we all met at Louwana's house and
sat down and put our heads together
456
00:31:31,349 --> 00:31:34,102
and tried to come up with
457
00:31:34,185 --> 00:31:37,605
some kind of lead or suspect.
458
00:31:40,567 --> 00:31:43,278
And one of the ways that
I thought of was
459
00:31:43,361 --> 00:31:47,532
that we check all the employees at
that middle school
460
00:31:47,615 --> 00:31:51,911
that Amanda had went to and
that Gina was still going to.
461
00:31:51,995 --> 00:31:55,331
So we asked the schools for all the
personnel files
462
00:31:55,415 --> 00:31:57,917
of the teaching and
non-teaching staff there.
463
00:32:00,545 --> 00:32:04,632
And one of the people
was a janitor at that school.
464
00:32:06,593 --> 00:32:10,305
He was a convicted rapist, who had
served his time, got out.
465
00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:13,725
And I remember, I was like,
466
00:32:13,808 --> 00:32:17,520
"Oh, my God!
How did this rapist get a job?"
467
00:32:18,646 --> 00:32:22,233
And could he have anything
to do with their disappearance?
468
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:33,536
He knew that we wanted to question
him, so he ran away from us.
469
00:32:36,873 --> 00:32:40,919
He ended up getting in his car and
speeding away.
470
00:32:50,136 --> 00:32:52,222
Oh, God, I shouldn't say this.
471
00:32:56,643 --> 00:33:01,731
He ended up going home and he ended
up killing himself, committing...
472
00:33:15,578 --> 00:33:18,915
I mean, he shouldn't
have taken his own life.
473
00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:22,043
All we wanted to do was ask him
questions.
474
00:33:22,127 --> 00:33:24,295
He already paid his debt to society.
475
00:33:24,379 --> 00:33:27,298
It wasn't his mistake that Cleveland
Schools hired him,
476
00:33:27,382 --> 00:33:30,677
they shouldn't have, they should
have done the background checks.
477
00:33:32,929 --> 00:33:35,015
But we were so close.
478
00:33:40,270 --> 00:33:44,566
It wasn't that former employee,
but it was a former employee.
479
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:04,711
My name's Ignacio Miranda.
480
00:34:04,794 --> 00:34:08,173
I was a band director for
the group, Sinte.
481
00:34:08,256 --> 00:34:12,552
I'm working at the library,
cleaning, you know,
482
00:34:12,635 --> 00:34:15,597
and actually doing a lot of
the yard work outside.
483
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,850
I see a school bus pull up.
484
00:34:18,933 --> 00:34:21,394
I see a man get out, comes over.
485
00:34:21,478 --> 00:34:24,689
And he says, "Hey, I hear you're
looking for a bass player.
486
00:34:24,773 --> 00:34:26,858
My name's Ariel Castro."
487
00:34:33,281 --> 00:34:36,493
I talked to him for a little while
and ended up going to his house
488
00:34:36,576 --> 00:34:40,872
shortly after, just to see what he
could do.
489
00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:43,583
He lived along on Seymour.
490
00:34:46,586 --> 00:34:48,922
I got to listen to him play.
I said,
491
00:34:49,005 --> 00:34:52,217
"Well, he's actually a really good
musician, he can really play."
492
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:55,261
You know, we were following each
other, we didn't really need
493
00:34:55,345 --> 00:34:58,431
the sheet music, we didn't need
any of it, we were just playing.
494
00:34:58,515 --> 00:35:03,228
Then I wanted to go to the restroom
before I made it home and I said,
495
00:35:03,311 --> 00:35:05,480
"Hey, is it OK if I use your
restroom?"
496
00:35:05,563 --> 00:35:09,317
And he says, "Didn't your mom train
you any better?
497
00:35:09,401 --> 00:35:12,112
You're not supposed to go somebody
else's house
498
00:35:12,195 --> 00:35:14,280
and ask them to use their restroom.
499
00:35:14,364 --> 00:35:18,451
I'm like, "OK, whatever, dude."
And I walked off.
500
00:35:23,957 --> 00:35:26,501
Still, we proceeded to have him in
our band.
501
00:35:26,584 --> 00:35:31,297
We played around different, west
side of Cleveland, you know,
502
00:35:31,381 --> 00:35:33,925
Belindas Nightclub was one we used
to play.
503
00:35:46,771 --> 00:35:51,443
Once we started getting a little
bit more people wanting us to play,
504
00:35:51,526 --> 00:35:56,406
we got offered a gig at Pittsburgh
and he said, "No, I'm not doing it.
505
00:35:56,489 --> 00:35:58,575
You guys figure it out, but I'm not
going."
506
00:35:58,658 --> 00:36:02,328
He was willing to go a half hour
away, or an hour away,
507
00:36:02,412 --> 00:36:04,581
but he couldn't go
any further than that.
508
00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:11,379
Amanda Berry disappeared the night
before she would have turned 17
509
00:36:11,463 --> 00:36:14,841
and, in a poignant tribute, her
family is marking her 18th birthday
510
00:36:14,924 --> 00:36:17,218
with a solemn vigil
and a plea for help.
511
00:36:17,302 --> 00:36:20,347
It's been so long,
I can't take it any more.
512
00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:22,390
All I need is an answer.
513
00:36:22,474 --> 00:36:25,226
You know, the knowing's not the
hardest part.
514
00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:27,395
Not knowing is the hardest part.
515
00:36:29,647 --> 00:36:32,484
Louwana Miller, very beautiful
woman,
516
00:36:32,567 --> 00:36:37,906
and suffered so much of
not knowing about her daughter.
517
00:36:39,115 --> 00:36:43,745
You know, so we share that mutual
feeling, you know,
518
00:36:43,828 --> 00:36:47,624
on, we knew
our daughter was out there.
519
00:36:49,125 --> 00:36:51,920
Her family's pain is shared by the
parents of Gina DeJesus,
520
00:36:52,003 --> 00:36:55,256
the 14-year-old Cleveland girl who
disappeared five blocks from
521
00:36:55,340 --> 00:36:57,467
the spot Amanda Berry
was last seen.
522
00:37:00,887 --> 00:37:04,099
Gina's father is convinced
that both girls were abducted.
523
00:37:04,182 --> 00:37:06,935
Now, whoever's got them,
let them go, please.
524
00:37:07,018 --> 00:37:09,938
Wherever you got 'em,
let these two children go home.
525
00:37:10,021 --> 00:37:12,190
CROWD: Amanda and Gina!
526
00:37:12,273 --> 00:37:14,359
Now!
527
00:37:16,653 --> 00:37:22,242
I felt for everyone that was on
the TV looking for Gina and Amanda.
528
00:37:26,287 --> 00:37:28,998
My name is Michelle Knight
529
00:37:29,082 --> 00:37:33,837
and I was abducted before Gina and
Amanda.
530
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,006
Nobody was looking for me.
531
00:37:36,089 --> 00:37:38,174
Who do we want? CROWD: Gina!
532
00:37:38,258 --> 00:37:39,926
When do we want her? Now!
533
00:37:40,010 --> 00:37:44,222
I was in the house two years
before Gina.
534
00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:49,019
No-one interviewed or arrested has
been connected to this case.
535
00:37:49,102 --> 00:37:51,604
Nobody ever deserves to go through
536
00:37:51,688 --> 00:37:54,399
something like what
we went through, ever.
537
00:37:54,482 --> 00:37:56,860
Not even our worstest enemy.
538
00:37:59,446 --> 00:38:02,741
The years of living in his house
539
00:38:02,824 --> 00:38:08,663
was filled with torture, rape
and verbal abuse.
540
00:38:11,249 --> 00:38:13,335
His whole persona was terrifying.
541
00:38:13,418 --> 00:38:18,048
He turned into Jekyll and Hyde,
like, he was nice one moment,
542
00:38:18,131 --> 00:38:21,468
then he just turned into
this horrible monster.
543
00:38:57,962 --> 00:39:02,217
That particular day, I needed
to go to an appointment.
544
00:39:06,471 --> 00:39:10,475
Unfortunately, they did not give me
the correct address.
545
00:39:10,558 --> 00:39:13,269
I ended up going to
two wrong places.
546
00:39:17,023 --> 00:39:21,611
So, I was asking the store manager,
"Do you know where this place is?"
547
00:39:21,695 --> 00:39:25,198
And the person that was walking in
the store,
548
00:39:25,281 --> 00:39:28,868
he overheard the conversation and
said,
549
00:39:28,952 --> 00:39:30,829
"Hey, I know where that's at."
550
00:39:30,912 --> 00:39:36,751
So, quickly, I recognised him and
I'm like, "Oh, you're Emily's dad."
551
00:39:36,835 --> 00:39:38,920
She was a friend at the time.
552
00:39:41,339 --> 00:39:45,760
So I got in the car, it was an old
truck,
553
00:39:45,844 --> 00:39:49,264
very ugly reddish-orange.
554
00:39:50,598 --> 00:39:53,143
Didn't really think nothing of it.
555
00:39:53,226 --> 00:39:56,271
We started talking about his
daughter and I remember saying,
556
00:39:56,354 --> 00:39:58,231
"You're going the wrong way."
557
00:40:01,276 --> 00:40:03,570
He said,
"Oh, I gotta stop at my house."
558
00:40:09,909 --> 00:40:14,664
I was in his backyard and he was
just talking about his daughter
559
00:40:14,748 --> 00:40:17,792
and then, for some reason,
we got onto puppies.
560
00:40:20,628 --> 00:40:23,340
He asked me
would I like to give one to my son?
561
00:40:23,423 --> 00:40:25,717
And I said, "Oh, that would be
wonderful."
562
00:40:28,428 --> 00:40:33,016
As I got out of the car,
he said, "I gotta lock the gate."
563
00:40:33,099 --> 00:40:36,144
I was like, "OK." And then I was
like,
564
00:40:36,227 --> 00:40:38,021
"Hey, why did you lock the gate?"
565
00:40:38,104 --> 00:40:40,398
He was like,
"It's a bad neighbourhood."
566
00:40:44,319 --> 00:40:46,738
So I was like, "OK, OK."
567
00:40:51,993 --> 00:40:55,663
The area that we came through was
the kitchen.
568
00:41:02,754 --> 00:41:05,548
As we walked up the stairs,
569
00:41:05,632 --> 00:41:09,219
I didn't hear no sounds of puppies.
570
00:41:09,302 --> 00:41:12,180
So I got a little bit more scared.
571
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:21,981
As we got fully up there, he shoved
me into a room and shut the door.
572
00:41:25,610 --> 00:41:28,154
And said,
"You'll never see home again."
573
00:41:34,202 --> 00:41:38,540
I panicked, I just dropped to the
floor, begging him to let me go.
574
00:41:38,623 --> 00:41:43,086
And as he was looking through my
stuff,
575
00:41:43,169 --> 00:41:48,550
he started ripping pictures up, he
started cutting my ID up,
576
00:41:48,633 --> 00:41:51,511
he asked me,
did I have a cell phone on me?
577
00:41:51,594 --> 00:41:54,347
He even, like, took off my clothes.
578
00:41:56,933 --> 00:41:59,060
He took an extension cord
579
00:41:59,144 --> 00:42:03,440
and he wrapped it around my arms
and my legs...
580
00:42:04,774 --> 00:42:07,485
..and stuffed a sock in my mouth.
581
00:42:07,569 --> 00:42:12,574
And put the extension cord around
my neck
582
00:42:12,657 --> 00:42:16,119
and then I was hanging
583
00:42:16,202 --> 00:42:21,332
from a rod
that went across the room.
584
00:42:23,543 --> 00:42:29,591
I was literally hanging there, my
legs, my feet, my arms,
585
00:42:29,674 --> 00:42:35,221
all parts of my body just went
completely numb.
586
00:42:35,305 --> 00:42:37,390
I couldn't move.
587
00:42:37,474 --> 00:42:39,851
I was like, frozen.
588
00:42:39,934 --> 00:42:42,604
I was like, I don't even know what
was going on.
589
00:42:42,687 --> 00:42:44,898
All I know is like, I was crying.
590
00:42:47,901 --> 00:42:50,278
I was thinking of my son.
591
00:42:52,489 --> 00:42:55,075
That's the only thing that was
keeping me holding on,
592
00:42:55,158 --> 00:42:59,371
cos I didn't know how to keep
hanging on at that point,
593
00:42:59,454 --> 00:43:01,331
I just wanted to go.
594
00:43:01,414 --> 00:43:03,500
I just wanted to leave earth.
595
00:43:11,716 --> 00:43:14,594
Every day, I would ask so many
questions.
596
00:43:14,678 --> 00:43:17,555
"Don't ask us anything about
Ariel's house any more."
597
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:21,309
I just got a gut feeling.
"That don't get you nowhere,
598
00:43:21,393 --> 00:43:24,729
you need credible evidence."
"I know, I just got a feeling."
599
00:43:29,442 --> 00:43:35,573
In my heart, I was having panic
attacks and didn't know why.
600
00:43:36,658 --> 00:43:38,743
Over this little short Puerto Rican
dude.
601
00:43:40,578 --> 00:43:42,956
So I watched him, got nothing.
602
00:43:44,332 --> 00:43:47,460
Watched him, got nothing.
Watched him. He'd do normal shit.
603
00:43:47,544 --> 00:43:49,838
Drive the school bus, he hangs with
children.
604
00:43:49,921 --> 00:43:52,215
I see people letting him watch
their children.
605
00:43:52,298 --> 00:43:55,635
This is normal, listening to rock
and roll, listening to the Beatles,
606
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,055
he's gotta be normal listening to
the Beatles, right? There you go.
607
00:43:59,139 --> 00:44:01,224
I here all morning, right?
608
00:44:01,307 --> 00:44:03,393
OK, so he's normal.
609
00:44:25,665 --> 00:44:29,669
We had a, I guess, what they'd
consider a long conversation,
610
00:44:29,753 --> 00:44:33,089
over some pizza and some soda...
611
00:44:34,924 --> 00:44:37,010
..about his childhood.
612
00:44:37,093 --> 00:44:39,804
He did have a horrible childhood.
613
00:44:39,888 --> 00:44:41,973
But it's like I told him,
614
00:44:42,057 --> 00:44:44,976
"Just because you have
a horrible childhood
615
00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:49,022
doesn't mean you have the right
to continue the abuse."
616
00:44:51,107 --> 00:44:54,903
I was trying everything in my power
to change his heart,
617
00:44:54,986 --> 00:44:57,072
change his mind.
618
00:44:58,406 --> 00:45:02,452
And people need help.
619
00:45:02,535 --> 00:45:04,621
And he definitely needed.
620
00:45:21,846 --> 00:45:25,975
Oh, he comes in with a gun and then
he's like, "Wanna play a game?"
621
00:45:26,059 --> 00:45:29,187
"We're gonna play Russian
Roulette." And I said, "Sure."
622
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:33,024
I was 14, I didn't even know what
Russian Roulette was.
623
00:45:36,277 --> 00:45:38,947
Michelle was like, "No, I don't
wanna play that."
624
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:42,117
So, then, so it's just me
and him playing.
625
00:45:46,705 --> 00:45:52,419
I just wanted to turn
the gun to him and say goodbye.
626
00:45:52,502 --> 00:45:54,629
But, I was too scared.
627
00:45:54,713 --> 00:45:58,133
And I really didn't think there
were bullets in the gun.
628
00:45:58,216 --> 00:46:01,344
But then he showed us that there
was a bullet in there.
629
00:46:06,933 --> 00:46:09,519
He spinned it and then he was like,
"Put it to your head
630
00:46:09,602 --> 00:46:14,190
and then pull the trigger and,
if you die, then you die."
631
00:46:14,274 --> 00:46:18,778
So then, I said, "OK." I'm
thinking, "What do I got to lose?"
632
00:46:22,365 --> 00:46:24,951
The bullet wasn't there,
so I got really lucky.
633
00:46:26,453 --> 00:46:30,248
So, and then he gave me the gun,
then he's like, um,
634
00:46:30,331 --> 00:46:34,377
"If you pull the trigger,
that means you hate me.
635
00:46:34,461 --> 00:46:39,507
If you don't pull the trigger,
that means you don't hate me."
636
00:46:39,591 --> 00:46:44,262
She took the gun
and she went to pull it.
637
00:46:44,346 --> 00:46:46,681
And was like,
"Are you sure you wanna do this?
638
00:46:46,765 --> 00:46:49,100
Are you positive."
639
00:46:49,184 --> 00:46:51,353
I was like, "Oh, go ahead."
640
00:46:51,436 --> 00:46:55,982
I sat back
and I just let it happen.
641
00:46:58,193 --> 00:47:02,447
So I pulled the trigger hoping
that the bullet was there.
642
00:47:02,530 --> 00:47:04,240
And it wasn't.
643
00:47:04,324 --> 00:47:09,496
So, I guess I let him know that
I really didn't like him.
644
00:47:31,351 --> 00:47:34,104
Maybe I thought I could help
because they thought
645
00:47:34,187 --> 00:47:37,732
their daughters were alive,
so that's why I was...
646
00:47:39,317 --> 00:47:43,363
..so dead set on doing
what I was doing.
647
00:47:46,074 --> 00:47:47,784
It's like nobody cares any more
648
00:47:47,867 --> 00:47:49,536
she's been gone so long.
649
00:47:49,619 --> 00:47:52,497
But I ain't gonna stop.
650
00:47:52,580 --> 00:47:56,876
Louwana wanted to meet
that psychic, Sylvia Browne.
651
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,504
She thought that Sylvia could help.
652
00:47:59,587 --> 00:48:04,759
I'm just like, "That is BS."
653
00:48:07,804 --> 00:48:11,391
It was not what I wanted to do,
but eventually I'm like, "Fine."
654
00:48:17,147 --> 00:48:19,482
My management helped arrange
655
00:48:19,566 --> 00:48:23,361
for Louwana to be a guest
and meet Sylvia.
656
00:48:23,445 --> 00:48:27,365
What is this gift and why do you
have it and he don't?
657
00:48:27,449 --> 00:48:30,368
Is this...? What... What is
psychic? I don't know what it is.
658
00:48:30,452 --> 00:48:33,288
What do you believe it is?
I believe that it comes from God.
659
00:48:33,371 --> 00:48:35,248
I am because I am.
660
00:48:35,331 --> 00:48:38,877
And finally it came time
661
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,796
and Sylvia turned to her and said...
662
00:48:43,882 --> 00:48:47,093
"I'm sorry. Your daughter's dead.
663
00:48:47,177 --> 00:48:49,763
She's in water." Bam, bam!
664
00:48:49,846 --> 00:48:52,849
And the camera goes real close to
Louwana and I'm like...
665
00:48:52,932 --> 00:48:57,103
I almost like jumped up
and started screaming.
666
00:48:57,187 --> 00:49:00,023
I just hate that she's not alive,
honey.
667
00:49:00,106 --> 00:49:02,275
I'm like, "What?
668
00:49:02,359 --> 00:49:04,527
Crap.
669
00:49:04,611 --> 00:49:06,279
How can you say that to her?
670
00:49:06,363 --> 00:49:08,698
You don't know that her daughter is
in the water.
671
00:49:08,782 --> 00:49:10,658
You don't know that her daughter
is...
672
00:49:10,742 --> 00:49:14,579
For years this woman has believed in
her heart, in her soul
673
00:49:14,662 --> 00:49:16,331
that her daughter is alive
674
00:49:16,414 --> 00:49:19,334
and you just come up with
this freaking bullshit."
675
00:49:24,923 --> 00:49:26,883
She was so crushed.
676
00:49:26,966 --> 00:49:31,638
It...stomped on her soul.
677
00:49:31,721 --> 00:49:36,726
Her sp... Her spirit, her hope.
678
00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:39,437
It's so dark these times.
679
00:49:39,521 --> 00:49:41,439
Right, right.
680
00:49:41,523 --> 00:49:44,651
I gotta do it. This is our America.
681
00:49:44,734 --> 00:49:47,028
She was upset for a long time.
682
00:49:47,112 --> 00:49:50,240
I was trying to comfort her
in every way.
683
00:49:50,323 --> 00:49:52,409
Hanging off of you, man.
684
00:49:52,492 --> 00:49:54,577
But she just was not feeling good.
685
00:49:54,661 --> 00:49:56,871
She wasn't eating right.
686
00:49:56,955 --> 00:50:01,960
But it was Amanda's disappearance,
but physically she was sick.
687
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:22,897
Her family called me up and said,
688
00:50:22,981 --> 00:50:27,777
"Hey, Bill... Louwana's real sick.
689
00:50:32,073 --> 00:50:34,409
You've become part of our family,
Bill,
690
00:50:34,492 --> 00:50:36,369
and we want you there with us."
691
00:50:40,582 --> 00:50:43,752
And when I walked in that hospital
room and saw her,
692
00:50:43,835 --> 00:50:46,254
I mean I was just like... It took...
693
00:50:47,380 --> 00:50:51,718
(SIGHS) It was just so sad.
694
00:50:53,928 --> 00:50:57,432
I went over and grabbed her hand,
I said, You're gonna be fine.
695
00:50:57,515 --> 00:51:00,185
You're gonna be fine."
She started to squeeze my hand.
696
00:51:00,268 --> 00:51:03,313
I said, "I know what you wanna
tell me.
697
00:51:03,396 --> 00:51:08,818
To make sure Mandy's picture is on
the news all the time and trust me,
698
00:51:08,902 --> 00:51:12,072
I'm gonna do that but you're gonna
have to get better and help me.
699
00:51:12,155 --> 00:51:15,450
So get better and get out,
in a couple of days and help me.
700
00:51:15,533 --> 00:51:19,120
Remind me, no, we'll do this
together.
701
00:51:19,204 --> 00:51:20,914
We'll bring Mandy home."
702
00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:27,712
It was so sad that she was going to
leave this earth
703
00:51:27,796 --> 00:51:30,340
without knowing where her daughter
was.
704
00:51:30,423 --> 00:51:34,260
It was so unfair. Nobody should
ever have to go through that.
705
00:51:39,391 --> 00:51:43,269
I just couldn't help her
get her kid home and it bugs me.
706
00:51:45,438 --> 00:51:47,524
(WEEPS)
707
00:51:58,118 --> 00:52:03,748
I was the actual one that let her
know that her mom had passed away.
708
00:52:07,836 --> 00:52:13,174
It was very hard to process
and I really felt for her.
709
00:52:15,176 --> 00:52:20,640
I tried my best to do what I could
inside of a house
710
00:52:20,724 --> 00:52:23,810
that nobody should've ever been in.
711
00:52:34,946 --> 00:52:38,241
As the days gone past of being in
the house,
712
00:52:38,324 --> 00:52:43,747
I had ended up getting
pregnant about five times.
713
00:52:44,748 --> 00:52:49,169
They were all aborted in abusive
ways.
714
00:52:50,337 --> 00:52:52,213
Some starved.
715
00:52:52,297 --> 00:52:54,174
Some, I was beat.
716
00:52:54,257 --> 00:52:56,176
I was thrown downstairs.
717
00:52:56,259 --> 00:53:00,180
I was also hit with a barbell more
than once.
718
00:53:02,265 --> 00:53:06,978
He told me that we could never have
a kid here, it would be too loud.
719
00:53:07,062 --> 00:53:11,983
So my question was to him,
"Why get a girl pregnant
720
00:53:12,067 --> 00:53:16,321
if you're gonna make
them suffer horrendous abuse?"
721
00:53:17,655 --> 00:53:23,244
I end up getting hit more because
I guess I was too mouthy for him.
722
00:53:24,329 --> 00:53:26,831
So I basically told him,
723
00:53:26,915 --> 00:53:30,460
"This will be the last time you
abort a child
724
00:53:30,543 --> 00:53:32,629
cos I won't let it happen."
725
00:53:49,771 --> 00:53:52,941
Amanda got pregnant as well.
726
00:53:55,235 --> 00:53:57,028
I was scared for that child.
727
00:53:57,112 --> 00:53:58,863
I was scared for her.
728
00:53:58,947 --> 00:54:03,660
I was scared that she might not
make it, we're not in a hospital.
729
00:54:03,743 --> 00:54:05,995
Anything could go wrong.
730
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,164
Anything.
731
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,462
He told me before anything,
732
00:54:14,546 --> 00:54:19,384
if the child got hurt or sick or
anything
733
00:54:19,467 --> 00:54:22,262
for that matter during the process
of delivery,
734
00:54:22,345 --> 00:54:25,473
that he would kill me.
735
00:54:25,557 --> 00:54:29,352
And I believed him. I believed
that he would actually do it.
736
00:54:35,025 --> 00:54:38,278
When the baby came out,
it didn't make a sound.
737
00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:45,160
You have to clear the lungs.
738
00:54:45,243 --> 00:54:48,788
So I had to smack it out, from the
back,
739
00:54:48,872 --> 00:54:52,834
like, up above her upper back.
740
00:54:52,917 --> 00:54:56,254
I had to go like this so she can
cough it out,
741
00:54:56,338 --> 00:54:59,257
so she can finally start to go,
"Aaargh!"
742
00:54:59,341 --> 00:55:03,928
And then she started crying and
that was the amazing part about it
743
00:55:04,012 --> 00:55:06,639
is that I was able to deliver,
744
00:55:06,723 --> 00:55:10,185
help deliver a baby
and it was a miracle.
745
00:55:11,311 --> 00:55:13,813
Give me a second,
I gotta take a break.
746
00:55:23,281 --> 00:55:26,576
I'm so glad that she was able to
have her
747
00:55:26,659 --> 00:55:32,248
and that she came out very
wonderful, with all ten toes
748
00:55:32,332 --> 00:55:38,046
and all ten fingers and
a very gorgeous little smile.
749
00:55:43,176 --> 00:55:46,971
Amanda had a baby and she had...
750
00:55:47,055 --> 00:55:52,310
Uh, it definitely did kind
of change a little bit for us.
751
00:55:54,312 --> 00:55:58,900
When the baby was born, that's when
he decided
752
00:55:58,983 --> 00:56:04,364
to permanently take the chains off
and padlock our doors.
753
00:56:06,116 --> 00:56:08,243
There was an emotional chain.
754
00:56:10,578 --> 00:56:16,001
Where he had scared us so much
that I feared running.
755
00:56:16,084 --> 00:56:20,839
He always used each other against
us.
756
00:56:20,922 --> 00:56:23,008
Like, for instance, he would say,
757
00:56:23,091 --> 00:56:25,468
"Well if you try to run, I'll kill
her."
758
00:56:25,552 --> 00:56:28,722
Or, "If you try to do this, I'll
kill you."
759
00:56:28,805 --> 00:56:31,641
He would use things like that
against us
760
00:56:31,725 --> 00:56:34,310
so we would be afraid to run.
761
00:56:37,439 --> 00:56:40,984
I remember one time he told me
that, if I tried anything,
762
00:56:41,067 --> 00:56:46,114
he would hang me from my ankles so
the blood could rush to my head,
763
00:56:46,197 --> 00:56:50,910
so I didn't try anything,
but I always wanted to escape,
764
00:56:50,994 --> 00:56:52,662
but I just couldn't get out.
765
00:57:06,134 --> 00:57:08,219
(SIGHS)
766
00:57:22,108 --> 00:57:23,777
Yeah.
767
00:57:23,860 --> 00:57:28,114
This is an FBI sketch of what they
thought the person of interest
768
00:57:28,198 --> 00:57:31,368
in Gina's disappearance looked like
and it's...
769
00:57:32,911 --> 00:57:38,875
..it's haunting how close it
ended up being of him at that age.
770
00:57:41,169 --> 00:57:43,797
The FBI released
this composite sketch.
771
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,966
They said a man driving
a light-coloured small car
772
00:57:47,050 --> 00:57:52,013
was wanted in connection
with Gina's disappearance.
773
00:57:52,097 --> 00:57:54,849
The first thing that came to my
mind, I said...
774
00:57:59,104 --> 00:58:01,272
.."I think I know this person."
775
00:58:02,816 --> 00:58:07,570
I kept wondering where I'd met this
person,
776
00:58:07,654 --> 00:58:10,156
cos I...
777
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,325
He looks familiar.
778
00:58:14,619 --> 00:58:18,748
And I showed it to my two oldest
brothers and they like,
779
00:58:18,832 --> 00:58:23,753
"We know that person. Whoever this
is, we've seen him somewhere.
780
00:58:23,837 --> 00:58:27,215
But we can't put our finger on it."
781
00:58:31,970 --> 00:58:35,807
We have over 3,000 people
in the City of Cleveland
782
00:58:35,890 --> 00:58:38,476
searching for whoever
took my daughter.
783
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:43,148
The father of Gina DeJesus,
missing now for four years,
784
00:58:43,231 --> 00:58:46,401
says he won't rest until
both girls are found.
785
00:58:55,744 --> 00:58:58,246
It's been four years for my family.
786
00:58:58,329 --> 00:59:00,415
Now it's five years for theirs.
787
00:59:00,498 --> 00:59:03,335
Please help both of our families.
788
00:59:03,418 --> 00:59:05,795
It was hard watching my dad.
789
00:59:07,630 --> 00:59:10,175
Listening to him crying in the
middle of the night
790
00:59:10,258 --> 00:59:14,971
when no-one was up or he
assumed we were not up
791
00:59:15,055 --> 00:59:20,352
and it would just hurt because my
dad sacrificed everything for us.
792
00:59:20,435 --> 00:59:22,520
Where is Gina?
793
00:59:22,604 --> 00:59:24,272
(INDISTINCT CHANTING)
794
00:59:24,356 --> 00:59:27,776
As the years went on, the newsroom
didn't want it any more.
795
00:59:27,859 --> 00:59:30,570
They're like, "Oh, no,
I don't wanna hear anything else
796
00:59:30,653 --> 00:59:33,948
about those runaway girls. We don't
need to cover them any more."
797
00:59:34,032 --> 00:59:36,826
And then, you know, Nancy would
call and say,
798
00:59:36,910 --> 00:59:40,288
"Hey, you know, we're having this
today. Can you stop by?"
799
00:59:40,372 --> 00:59:42,082
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
800
00:59:42,165 --> 00:59:45,418
So I'd go and talk to the producer
and I said,
801
00:59:45,502 --> 00:59:48,630
"Look, I'm gonna give you the story
and then some.
802
00:59:48,713 --> 00:59:54,427
But please, please fit in something
to talk about the missing girls."
803
00:59:54,511 --> 00:59:57,931
Keeping Gina's memory alive is all
they can do.
804
00:59:58,014 --> 01:00:02,686
Tips are still coming, and as long
as we can take it to the media
805
01:00:02,769 --> 01:00:04,854
and shows, my daughter...
806
01:00:04,938 --> 01:00:06,856
People do call.
807
01:00:06,940 --> 01:00:09,818
I just don't think that there was
as much interest on it
808
01:00:09,901 --> 01:00:14,906
as there was for the families,
myself and Bill,
809
01:00:14,989 --> 01:00:17,075
because we believed them.
810
01:00:29,254 --> 01:00:32,799
The two cousins that were around
Gina's age,
811
01:00:32,882 --> 01:00:36,803
that she grew up with,
they were growing up.
812
01:00:36,886 --> 01:00:40,515
They were becoming junior high
school students,
813
01:00:40,598 --> 01:00:44,144
high school students and those were
definitely hard times for me
814
01:00:44,227 --> 01:00:49,232
because it was like
Gina would be doing this.
815
01:01:23,683 --> 01:01:29,189
Sometimes I didn't sleep,
and I would just stay up and just,
816
01:01:29,272 --> 01:01:34,694
just think of my family
and what they were doing...
817
01:01:35,653 --> 01:01:40,492
..and did they have a good day,
you know?
818
01:01:40,575 --> 01:01:44,537
Sometimes I was mad at the world
cos I was stuck.
819
01:01:45,789 --> 01:01:48,291
Almost exactly a year after Amanda
disappeared,
820
01:01:48,375 --> 01:01:51,127
Gina DeJesus vanished
five short blocks away.
821
01:01:51,211 --> 01:01:53,630
Over the years, their families have
become one.
822
01:01:53,713 --> 01:01:55,840
After eight years,
the crowd has dwindled.
823
01:01:55,924 --> 01:01:58,343
In the beginning when I was first
kidnapped,
824
01:01:58,426 --> 01:02:00,929
they were on the news, like,
all the time.
825
01:02:01,012 --> 01:02:03,515
So I was like, "Yeah,"
all the time.
826
01:02:03,598 --> 01:02:06,851
And then, like, after, like,
years went by,
827
01:02:06,935 --> 01:02:09,354
it was just the anniversary.
828
01:02:09,437 --> 01:02:12,440
So that's like once a year
I'd get to see my family.
829
01:02:12,524 --> 01:02:16,695
And tomorrow marks Amanda Berry's
25th birthday. The FBI...
830
01:02:16,778 --> 01:02:19,739
He made us have a different name
cos he didn't want the child,
831
01:02:19,823 --> 01:02:22,367
Jocelyn, to know who we really are,
832
01:02:22,450 --> 01:02:26,287
because not only
was we able to see the news,
833
01:02:26,371 --> 01:02:28,748
she was able to see the news
as well.
834
01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:32,377
So, as she started getting older,
835
01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:36,006
she started talking,
she started noticing things.
836
01:02:39,592 --> 01:02:41,678
I thought it was
his grand-daughter.
837
01:02:41,761 --> 01:02:45,140
Wherever they'd go, he'd always got
his hand, she never walks alone.
838
01:02:45,223 --> 01:02:47,475
He bought her one of those little
tight things,
839
01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:49,269
she's got a Barbie key, you know?
840
01:02:49,352 --> 01:02:52,188
He's walk on the side of her,
he spoiled that girl rotten.
841
01:02:52,272 --> 01:02:54,482
So, in my head, he's a good
grandparent.
842
01:02:54,566 --> 01:02:56,443
Well, that's his daughter.
843
01:02:56,526 --> 01:02:58,236
But who knew that?
844
01:03:07,495 --> 01:03:12,042
In 2012, we received a letter from
an individual named Robert Wolford.
845
01:03:12,125 --> 01:03:16,921
He was incarcerated in a prison,
a state prison, in Southern Ohio.
846
01:03:17,005 --> 01:03:20,925
In the letter, the individual had
stated that he was responsible
847
01:03:21,009 --> 01:03:23,094
for the disappearance of Amanda
848
01:03:23,178 --> 01:03:27,223
to include being responsible for
killing Amanda.
849
01:03:27,307 --> 01:03:31,811
Using a cadaver dog two police
officers and an FBI evidence team
850
01:03:31,895 --> 01:03:34,731
search and sift dirt
in a vacant lot.
851
01:03:36,983 --> 01:03:40,779
There was some credibility to the
location.
852
01:03:41,988 --> 01:03:44,491
A couple of days after Amanda had
gone missing,
853
01:03:44,574 --> 01:03:49,079
her mother received a
phone call from her cell phone.
854
01:03:49,162 --> 01:03:53,166
What was interesting to us about
Wolford was
855
01:03:53,249 --> 01:03:56,378
the area that he had
claimed that he had buried Amanda
856
01:03:56,461 --> 01:03:59,255
fell within that cell phone range.
857
01:03:59,339 --> 01:04:02,926
For two long days,
Cleveland Police, FBI agents
858
01:04:03,009 --> 01:04:06,262
and city workers worked
nearly around the clock
859
01:04:06,346 --> 01:04:08,848
looking for possible remains
of Amanda Berry.
860
01:04:08,932 --> 01:04:12,018
By 2:30 this afternoon,
heavy equipment used
861
01:04:12,102 --> 01:04:14,562
to dig up this empty lot left.
862
01:04:14,646 --> 01:04:17,482
Police cleared out,
the search was over.
863
01:04:19,484 --> 01:04:22,195
There were negative results
for any human remains
864
01:04:22,278 --> 01:04:26,324
and that's when he admitted to us
that he made the whole story up.
865
01:04:28,410 --> 01:04:31,413
He wanted to get out of the jail
that he was in for a little bit
866
01:04:31,496 --> 01:04:34,958
and by coming up with the story and
saying that he was involved,
867
01:04:35,041 --> 01:04:37,419
that was a way for him to do it.
868
01:04:37,502 --> 01:04:40,588
As remote as it is, there's still
hope for the family.
869
01:04:40,672 --> 01:04:43,883
Maybe somewhere this girl's still
alive.
870
01:04:47,012 --> 01:04:50,807
The messed up part about it
is that they were so close.
871
01:04:52,642 --> 01:04:58,106
So close and we couldn't do
anything.
872
01:04:59,524 --> 01:05:01,443
We couldn't let 'em know we were
here.
873
01:05:01,526 --> 01:05:03,319
We couldn't scream.
874
01:05:03,403 --> 01:05:06,239
So close but so far away.
875
01:05:07,407 --> 01:05:09,159
And he laughed.
876
01:05:09,242 --> 01:05:11,202
He laughed about it.
877
01:05:13,329 --> 01:05:16,583
And he said,
"You're never gonna get found.
878
01:05:18,001 --> 01:05:20,920
They're this close,
and they still haven't found you."
879
01:05:44,402 --> 01:05:47,405
I just was sitting there drawing.
880
01:05:47,489 --> 01:05:53,119
Me and Gina was talking
and I turned to her and said,
881
01:05:53,203 --> 01:05:57,332
"Hey, what if today
is the day that we go home?
882
01:05:58,667 --> 01:06:03,588
Wouldn't that be amazing?"
And she said, "Yeah that would be."
883
01:06:13,390 --> 01:06:17,560
I would say I heard, like...
884
01:06:20,188 --> 01:06:25,819
..Amanda whispering to Jocelyn.
885
01:06:27,779 --> 01:06:32,409
She went downstairs, came back up
and said, "I can't find Daddy."
886
01:06:33,576 --> 01:06:37,914
So I looked at Michelle, I said,
"We could go."
887
01:06:37,997 --> 01:06:42,544
(LAUGHS) Like our doors were
open and unlocked.
888
01:06:44,129 --> 01:06:47,507
I heard Jocelyn coming up the
stairs,
889
01:06:47,590 --> 01:06:52,679
saying Daddy wasn't here,
but I thought she was just joking.
890
01:06:52,762 --> 01:06:57,642
Then I noticed that both of 'em
went back downstairs together
891
01:06:57,726 --> 01:07:00,103
so I figured
maybe he just called her down there
892
01:07:00,186 --> 01:07:02,897
and they're just gonna have a
conversation.
893
01:07:05,233 --> 01:07:08,236
I went to watch TV again
894
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:11,031
and the next thing I heard like
booming noises.
895
01:07:14,492 --> 01:07:18,663
I'm at home and I heard this
banging, bang, bang, bang, bang.
896
01:07:18,747 --> 01:07:22,876
And I look out my window and I see
my neighbours
897
01:07:22,959 --> 01:07:26,755
in the middle of the street
but they're not looking at me,
898
01:07:26,838 --> 01:07:29,883
they're looking at the house next
door, not my door.
899
01:07:29,966 --> 01:07:33,470
I come outside, "What you looking
at?" Bang, bang, bang.
900
01:07:33,553 --> 01:07:36,890
"Oh, there's that...
What is going on? What is that?"
901
01:07:36,973 --> 01:07:39,893
They said, "It's some girl,
she wanna get outta the house."
902
01:07:39,976 --> 01:07:41,644
"Then, did you help her?"
903
01:07:41,728 --> 01:07:44,981
"We're not gonna get involved with
that, we don't know her." Argh!
904
01:07:45,065 --> 01:07:48,943
I go off my porch,
"What is the problem?"
905
01:07:49,027 --> 01:07:51,321
"I need to get outta here."
"Then get out!"
906
01:07:51,404 --> 01:07:54,866
"I can't, he's got the door locked
-" or "chained up", rather.
907
01:07:54,949 --> 01:07:57,035
I said, "Oh, God." All right.
908
01:07:57,118 --> 01:08:01,206
So I got a Big, a Big Mac in my
hand, just like McDonald's.
909
01:08:01,289 --> 01:08:02,957
So I've got a debate.
910
01:08:03,041 --> 01:08:08,088
Help the girl I don't know,
$4 hamburger I just bought.
911
01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:11,341
I know the hamburger. I don't know
you. All right, here we go.
912
01:08:11,424 --> 01:08:14,594
Put the hamburger down.
Destroyed the door.
913
01:08:14,678 --> 01:08:17,681
She comes out, she comes out
with a little girl.
914
01:08:17,764 --> 01:08:21,267
I said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa. I'm not with the kidnap.
915
01:08:21,351 --> 01:08:25,021
What's the little girl?" Cos in my
head that Ariel's grand-daughter.
916
01:08:25,105 --> 01:08:27,190
"Who are you?"
917
01:08:27,273 --> 01:08:31,486
I'm stopping her from pulling her
own daughter out of her house.
918
01:08:31,569 --> 01:08:33,655
She's like, "This is my kid!"
919
01:08:33,738 --> 01:08:37,200
I said, "How? Who are you?"
920
01:08:38,410 --> 01:08:41,955
She's said, "I'm Amanda Berry."
It's not registering yet, whatever.
921
01:08:42,038 --> 01:08:45,166
"OK, well here.
You call the police."
922
01:09:09,733 --> 01:09:11,818
I need them now.
923
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,286
'This is 23.'
924
01:09:25,665 --> 01:09:29,294
Our dispatcher said that she had
a female on the line
925
01:09:29,377 --> 01:09:34,215
stating that she was Amanda Berry
and that she was free,
926
01:09:34,299 --> 01:09:40,055
that she had been kidnapped for
ten years and she needed help.
927
01:09:42,515 --> 01:09:45,643
We immediately turned on the lights
and sirens
928
01:09:45,727 --> 01:09:47,896
and we headed towards Seymour.
929
01:09:49,564 --> 01:09:53,318
As we were pulling up I see a young
lady
930
01:09:53,401 --> 01:09:55,487
standing there holding a child.
931
01:09:57,405 --> 01:09:59,949
My partner asked her,
932
01:10:00,033 --> 01:10:04,245
"Is there anybody else in the
house?", you know,
933
01:10:04,329 --> 01:10:07,123
and she said, "Yes, there's two
more girls in the house."
934
01:10:07,207 --> 01:10:09,542
So we started charging towards the
house.
935
01:10:16,216 --> 01:10:21,221
My door was unlocked, so I peeped
out of it a couple of times,
936
01:10:21,304 --> 01:10:24,015
said, "You know what?
I'm just gonna go out it."
937
01:10:24,099 --> 01:10:26,184
She kinda got excited.
938
01:10:26,267 --> 01:10:28,978
I'm like, "That's probably not a
good idea.
939
01:10:29,062 --> 01:10:33,233
I'm not even gonna try it,
cos it could be a trap.
940
01:10:33,316 --> 01:10:35,485
I don't know what in his mind."
941
01:10:35,568 --> 01:10:37,362
So I didn't do anything.
942
01:10:38,822 --> 01:10:42,409
Then, next thing I know, I hear
footsteps coming up the stairs.
943
01:10:42,492 --> 01:10:45,412
Then I hear, "Police! Police!"
944
01:10:49,624 --> 01:10:55,255
And then when the person opened
the curtain and I seen the badge
945
01:10:55,338 --> 01:10:58,633
I ran so fast
946
01:10:58,717 --> 01:11:02,512
and jumped into their arms
and told 'em, "Never let me go.
947
01:11:03,888 --> 01:11:05,765
Never let me go."
948
01:11:07,642 --> 01:11:11,354
She said, "My name is Michelle
Knight. I'm 31 years old.
949
01:11:11,438 --> 01:11:13,523
I've been here for 12 years.
950
01:11:24,617 --> 01:11:26,411
You saved us."
951
01:11:32,625 --> 01:11:34,794
I peeped my head out of the door.
952
01:11:36,629 --> 01:11:38,923
They were saying they were police
officers
953
01:11:39,007 --> 01:11:42,427
and they made me repeat my name
twice.
954
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,349
And I looked at her and I
immediately knew who it was.
955
01:11:47,432 --> 01:11:50,769
I just couldn't believe it.
956
01:11:52,228 --> 01:11:55,857
(SOBS) I told her, "We've been
looking for you for a long time."
957
01:11:59,110 --> 01:12:02,947
And I'm like, "I know. I've been
watching the news." (LAUGHS)
958
01:12:06,034 --> 01:12:08,119
At a point the radio.
959
01:12:18,338 --> 01:12:24,094
One of my special memories is
sitting in the ambulance
960
01:12:24,177 --> 01:12:30,100
looking at Jocelyn, Gina and Amanda
and Amanda reaching her hand out,
961
01:12:30,183 --> 01:12:34,229
saying, "We're going home.
We're finally going home."
962
01:12:34,312 --> 01:12:36,648
And I said, "Yes, we are."
963
01:12:39,567 --> 01:12:43,613
(INDISTINCT CHATTER) It is a story
we've followed for ten years
964
01:12:43,697 --> 01:12:46,116
and tonight we're following
breaking news.
965
01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:49,119
Three women that had vanished have
been found alive.
966
01:12:52,539 --> 01:12:56,209
Snatched the keys for the car,
then I went outside.
967
01:12:56,292 --> 01:12:58,712
Here comes three cop cars.
968
01:13:00,255 --> 01:13:02,674
They asked me,
"Where are you going?"
969
01:13:02,757 --> 01:13:05,468
I said, "Well, I'm getting in the
vehicle.
970
01:13:05,552 --> 01:13:09,431
The media said that they'd found
three girls on Seymour.
971
01:13:09,514 --> 01:13:13,435
I'm going to drive down to there
to see if it was Gina."
972
01:13:14,728 --> 01:13:16,604
She goes, "You're not going
nowhere.
973
01:13:16,688 --> 01:13:19,274
That's why we came here to take
you."
974
01:13:19,357 --> 01:13:22,152
I said, "Take me where?
To Seymour?"
975
01:13:22,235 --> 01:13:25,071
She goes, "No, we gonna take you
to the hospital.
976
01:13:25,155 --> 01:13:26,865
We've found your daughter."
977
01:13:28,700 --> 01:13:30,785
I say, "What?"
978
01:13:31,995 --> 01:13:34,330
We've seen
a lot of hugging, crying.
979
01:13:34,414 --> 01:13:36,708
This is video from outside of this
hospital.
980
01:13:36,791 --> 01:13:39,336
But when are these young women
going to be released?
981
01:13:39,419 --> 01:13:41,546
They're just telling me,
"No comment."
982
01:13:43,423 --> 01:13:46,718
They found Amanda and we get to
the hospital
983
01:13:46,801 --> 01:13:50,847
and there she is, standing there.
984
01:13:52,724 --> 01:13:57,604
And then we all start hugging for
what seemed like a half an hour.
985
01:13:57,687 --> 01:13:59,606
We didn't even let go.
986
01:13:59,689 --> 01:14:03,318
Then, when we let go, we look over
and there's everyone (LAUGHS).
987
01:14:03,401 --> 01:14:06,237
It's real quiet
and they're all staring at us.
988
01:14:06,321 --> 01:14:11,242
The police, the nurses,
the doctors, the FBI.
989
01:14:11,326 --> 01:14:14,329
They're just all standing there,
just in awe.
990
01:14:15,747 --> 01:14:19,292
I'm standing next to my dad and he
goes,
991
01:14:19,376 --> 01:14:22,379
"Promise me you don't break down
and start crying."
992
01:14:22,462 --> 01:14:24,464
I said, "How am I gonna promise
that?
993
01:14:24,547 --> 01:14:27,592
I'm the sissy of all the group.
I'm gonna cry."
994
01:14:27,676 --> 01:14:30,178
He's like, "You gotta be strong
for your sister."
995
01:14:30,261 --> 01:14:33,473
I'm like, "OK, Dad, I'll try my
best, can't guarantee nothing."
996
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,229
Wow.
997
01:14:39,312 --> 01:14:41,106
Nine years.
998
01:14:43,775 --> 01:14:45,527
I lost it.
999
01:14:51,324 --> 01:14:54,035
I couldn't believe
that I was hugging my daughter.
1000
01:15:09,926 --> 01:15:14,097
I was actually in my garden
when I got this phone call.
1001
01:15:14,180 --> 01:15:19,853
Like, "Dude, you're not gonna
believe it, the girls, the girls!
1002
01:15:19,936 --> 01:15:23,481
They were found!" I'm like, "What
are you talking about? Slow down!"
1003
01:15:24,649 --> 01:15:26,735
And, um... (LAUGHS)
1004
01:15:29,029 --> 01:15:33,533
..when he said Gina and Amanda,
those two names, I like flipped out.
1005
01:15:33,616 --> 01:15:37,120
And I called Bill, I said,
"Bill, is it true?"
1006
01:15:37,203 --> 01:15:40,415
He goes, "I'm at Amanda's house
right now. I gotta go. Bye."
1007
01:15:40,498 --> 01:15:43,418
I went, "Oh, my gosh!"
1008
01:15:45,587 --> 01:15:49,341
On 19 Action News, all over
breaking news,
1009
01:15:49,424 --> 01:15:51,926
right now the long awaited
homecomings begin for
1010
01:15:52,010 --> 01:15:54,596
the three missing Cleveland women
found alive.
1011
01:15:54,679 --> 01:15:57,098
Yeah, we definitely know that the
family
1012
01:15:57,182 --> 01:15:59,726
is going to be coming back here
this morning.
1013
01:15:59,809 --> 01:16:03,104
What I can tell you is I'm not sure
how long they will be staying
1014
01:16:03,188 --> 01:16:05,940
once they get here...
1015
01:16:06,024 --> 01:16:09,611
I was on the air live and Ramona
Robinson,
1016
01:16:09,694 --> 01:16:12,906
who I worked with at the NBC station
she goes,
1017
01:16:12,989 --> 01:16:18,328
"Remember that gift that Amanda's
mother bought you?"
1018
01:16:20,288 --> 01:16:23,416
She goes, "Yeah, remember she got
you a shirt and a tie
1019
01:16:23,500 --> 01:16:26,252
and she told you to wear it
on the day Mandy comes home."
1020
01:16:26,336 --> 01:16:31,716
And I can't believe she bought me
that and she was right again.
1021
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,177
She knew that her daughter would
come home
1022
01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:38,890
and she knew she wanted me in a
clean shirt and clean tie
1023
01:16:38,973 --> 01:16:42,477
to tell the world
that her daughter was home.
1024
01:16:45,146 --> 01:16:48,274
I'm Bill Safos
at the home of Amanda Berry.
1025
01:16:48,358 --> 01:16:50,694
It was the moment
they had waited for.
1026
01:16:50,777 --> 01:16:52,487
Amanda's journey home
1027
01:16:52,570 --> 01:16:54,739
finally ending safely.
1028
01:16:54,823 --> 01:16:57,450
Louwana, if she was here,
she would have
1029
01:16:57,534 --> 01:17:00,912
run around and kissed everybody
and thank you and, you know...
1030
01:17:00,995 --> 01:17:02,706
She wouldn't have been able,
1031
01:17:02,789 --> 01:17:06,751
Louwana, to thank everybody enough,
cos that's how she was.
1032
01:17:10,296 --> 01:17:13,008
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
1033
01:17:13,091 --> 01:17:14,759
She's home.
1034
01:17:16,803 --> 01:17:18,888
Let's now go to Lydia Esparra,
1035
01:17:18,972 --> 01:17:21,516
who is very close with the DeJesus
family.
1036
01:17:21,599 --> 01:17:23,685
Good afternoon and they are so
excited.
1037
01:17:23,768 --> 01:17:26,146
You can see behind me the balloons
are still here,
1038
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:28,106
they're bringing chairs in the
house.
1039
01:17:28,189 --> 01:17:30,150
There's a sense of a party
atmosphere.
1040
01:17:30,233 --> 01:17:32,110
Everyone's so excited.
1041
01:17:32,193 --> 01:17:35,864
Well, I was happy to go to the
house,
1042
01:17:35,947 --> 01:17:38,992
to walk in the door for my first
time.
1043
01:17:39,075 --> 01:17:41,161
My mom kept saying on the
interviews,
1044
01:17:41,244 --> 01:17:43,872
"My daughter's gonna walk through
the front door."
1045
01:17:43,955 --> 01:17:46,082
Gina! Gina!
1046
01:17:46,166 --> 01:17:48,585
Gina! Gina! Gina!
1047
01:17:48,668 --> 01:17:52,672
I look at my mom and like tears
came down my face
1048
01:17:52,756 --> 01:17:55,258
and I was thinking,
"Oh, my God I'm finally home."
1049
01:17:55,342 --> 01:17:58,303
So there was, like, happy thoughts,
but I started crying.
1050
01:17:58,386 --> 01:18:01,222
Gina! Gina! Gina!
1051
01:18:01,348 --> 01:18:03,433
(CHEERING)
1052
01:18:07,896 --> 01:18:11,483
When Gina came home, I did
what I did when she was born.
1053
01:18:11,566 --> 01:18:15,445
When a baby is born, the first
thing you do is check the fingers,
1054
01:18:15,528 --> 01:18:19,115
check the toes, the legs,
arms, and that's what I did.
1055
01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:21,368
I was patting her down
and checking her.
1056
01:18:21,451 --> 01:18:24,454
Making sure everything was there,
I guess, I dunno.
1057
01:18:24,537 --> 01:18:26,206
(CHEERING)
1058
01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:31,044
My first reaction as I saw my
daughter...
1059
01:18:32,545 --> 01:18:37,884
..the only thing I did was grab her
and hug her. I didn't wanna let go.
1060
01:18:37,967 --> 01:18:41,680
We would like to thank everyone,
1061
01:18:41,763 --> 01:18:45,767
especially Lydia Esparra and Bill
Safos
1062
01:18:45,850 --> 01:18:47,936
from Channel 19 Action News.
1063
01:18:48,019 --> 01:18:51,314
And thank you, guys,
the both of you, because I know,
1064
01:18:51,398 --> 01:18:54,609
we started covering this story
together ten years ago.
1065
01:18:54,693 --> 01:18:57,195
The two of you,
unlike a lot of reporters
1066
01:18:57,278 --> 01:18:59,364
who move on to the next story,
1067
01:18:59,447 --> 01:19:02,242
the two of you kept in touch
with those families.
1068
01:19:02,325 --> 01:19:05,286
Kept telling their stories and
that's why
1069
01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:09,040
they were thanking you this
afternoon, so well deserved.
1070
01:19:09,124 --> 01:19:11,376
Thank you.
Oh, our pleasure, Ramona.
1071
01:19:11,459 --> 01:19:14,254
It was our pleasure.
They deserve all the credit.
1072
01:19:18,925 --> 01:19:20,719
Unfortunately that homecoming
1073
01:19:20,802 --> 01:19:22,595
wasn't there for Michelle.
1074
01:19:22,679 --> 01:19:26,016
And I felt so sorry, sad for her.
1075
01:19:26,099 --> 01:19:31,021
And the worst part for Michelle too
is she had to watch the TV
1076
01:19:31,104 --> 01:19:34,607
knowing that Gina's family and
Amanda's family,
1077
01:19:34,691 --> 01:19:36,776
they were looking for them.
1078
01:19:36,860 --> 01:19:39,612
And nobody was ever looking for
Michelle.
1079
01:19:42,824 --> 01:19:47,370
I felt like the person that had
a nameless face.
1080
01:19:49,497 --> 01:19:52,000
I felt like the forgotten one.
1081
01:19:52,083 --> 01:19:57,088
When someone says, "Oh, well your
mom was looking for you,
1082
01:19:57,172 --> 01:19:59,424
but it wasn't that extreme."
1083
01:19:59,507 --> 01:20:01,176
They told her to come back.
1084
01:20:01,259 --> 01:20:04,804
They told her to recheck and she
didn't do that.
1085
01:20:04,888 --> 01:20:07,265
So, therefore,
they closed the case.
1086
01:20:08,767 --> 01:20:11,811
And we dropped the ball, you know,
she was reported missing
1087
01:20:11,895 --> 01:20:15,065
in the first district but went
missing in the second district.
1088
01:20:15,148 --> 01:20:17,484
It was...
1089
01:20:17,567 --> 01:20:23,156
There was no contact follow-up
to the police.
1090
01:20:24,366 --> 01:20:26,076
We missed something.
1091
01:20:27,202 --> 01:20:29,704
My impressions of the house
when I walked through it
1092
01:20:29,788 --> 01:20:34,084
were that there was very little
outdoor or natural light.
1093
01:20:34,167 --> 01:20:38,254
The closet doors had been removed
from the closets,
1094
01:20:38,338 --> 01:20:42,300
screwed onto the wall to cover the
windows.
1095
01:20:44,135 --> 01:20:47,555
The things that were shocking to me
were the chains.
1096
01:20:49,516 --> 01:20:53,103
The chains that were used to keep
the girls in confinement.
1097
01:20:55,271 --> 01:20:59,567
Those items to me spoke volumes
1098
01:20:59,651 --> 01:21:03,405
when the amount of chains
that were removed from the house.
1099
01:21:04,698 --> 01:21:07,534
They were rusty, they were heavy.
1100
01:21:09,869 --> 01:21:13,790
Every day more news came out about
what happened
1101
01:21:13,873 --> 01:21:15,875
inside that house of horrors
1102
01:21:15,959 --> 01:21:19,713
and how she was kidnapped and that
it was a friend of theirs.
1103
01:21:19,796 --> 01:21:22,841
And that same friend of theirs,
Ariel Castro,
1104
01:21:22,924 --> 01:21:27,178
even played at my church in
Youngstown at a church festival.
1105
01:21:27,262 --> 01:21:30,348
I remember cos he would wear this
cap and I remember him there
1106
01:21:30,432 --> 01:21:33,309
and I'm like, "(BLEEP)! That guy
was at my church
1107
01:21:33,393 --> 01:21:35,562
while he was holding
these girls hostage."
1108
01:21:39,065 --> 01:21:41,401
I'm up here in the court room on
the third floor
1109
01:21:41,484 --> 01:21:43,653
where he will be brought
in before the Judge.
1110
01:21:43,737 --> 01:21:46,990
Ariel Castro is the man who
perpetrated these crimes,
1111
01:21:47,073 --> 01:21:50,118
kidnapping and raping
Amanda, Gina and Michelle.
1112
01:21:51,619 --> 01:21:54,873
He was the bus driver that took kids
to and from that middle school
1113
01:21:54,956 --> 01:21:56,666
that they both attended
1114
01:21:56,750 --> 01:21:59,878
so they knew him
and he knew the girls.
1115
01:21:59,961 --> 01:22:01,671
All rise.
1116
01:22:01,755 --> 01:22:04,924
Ariel Castro had a big personnel
file at that middle school.
1117
01:22:05,008 --> 01:22:07,469
We didn't get it because, when I did
1118
01:22:07,552 --> 01:22:12,515
the Freedom of Information Act
request they gave me all these files
1119
01:22:12,599 --> 01:22:15,852
to all the people
that worked in that middle school.
1120
01:22:15,935 --> 01:22:18,438
I didn't get Ariel Castro's file
1121
01:22:18,521 --> 01:22:21,733
because I didn't ask for
the former employees.
1122
01:22:22,901 --> 01:22:24,986
Ariel Castro.
1123
01:22:25,070 --> 01:22:28,448
Once you heard the name,
you knew who it was.
1124
01:22:28,531 --> 01:22:32,327
I mean, if you're from that area,
are-are you kidding me?
1125
01:22:32,410 --> 01:22:34,537
I'd seen him, I'd known him.
1126
01:22:34,621 --> 01:22:38,166
I... He'd ride down the street from
where I hung out a lot
1127
01:22:38,249 --> 01:22:40,960
and where I've been by
a million times.
1128
01:22:43,088 --> 01:22:45,173
(POLICE RADIO)
1129
01:22:46,299 --> 01:22:48,385
I had an arrest early in the
morning,
1130
01:22:48,468 --> 01:22:52,263
and while I'm getting the prints
and photos, I hear somebody say,
1131
01:22:52,347 --> 01:22:56,518
"(SPEAKS SPANISH)"
1132
01:22:56,601 --> 01:22:58,895
"How are you doing?
What's going on?"
1133
01:22:58,978 --> 01:23:01,481
And I turn over like this and there
he is.
1134
01:23:02,857 --> 01:23:04,651
And he's in a jail cell.
1135
01:23:04,734 --> 01:23:07,153
And he goes, "(SPEAKS SPANISH)"
1136
01:23:07,237 --> 01:23:11,658
"How are you doing?" And I said,
"I'm OK." I said, "How are you?"
1137
01:23:11,741 --> 01:23:15,995
And he goes, "Man, I really (BLEEP)
up this time, huh?"
1138
01:23:16,079 --> 01:23:21,334
And I said, "Yeah. How dare you do
this to these girls?
1139
01:23:21,418 --> 01:23:23,294
Ten years?!"
1140
01:23:23,378 --> 01:23:25,714
And I said, I said, "And Gina.
1141
01:23:25,797 --> 01:23:27,882
You've known Felix for how many
years?
1142
01:23:27,966 --> 01:23:32,012
We've known him for how many years?
How can you do this? I mean..."
1143
01:23:32,095 --> 01:23:34,097
He said, "I'm a victim too."
1144
01:23:34,180 --> 01:23:36,307
I said, "How the hell are you a
victim?"
1145
01:23:36,391 --> 01:23:40,395
"Well, you know, this happened to
me when I was back in Puerto Rico
when I was a kid.
1146
01:23:40,478 --> 01:23:42,564
I was violated too."
1147
01:23:45,525 --> 01:23:48,319
And I'm standing on the other side
of the cell and I said,
1148
01:23:48,403 --> 01:23:50,196
"God, thank you for these bars."
1149
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,532
Because I'm trying to be a
policeman,
1150
01:23:52,615 --> 01:23:55,660
I'm trying to be somebody who knows
and I'm trying to be human.
1151
01:23:55,744 --> 01:23:59,581
It's all just...all this stuff in
my head just swirling around, like,
1152
01:23:59,664 --> 01:24:03,335
you know how many people'd like
to be 2' from this guy right now?
1153
01:24:03,418 --> 01:24:05,170
Millions.
1154
01:24:05,253 --> 01:24:08,381
(POLICE RADIO, INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1155
01:24:09,632 --> 01:24:13,636
I towed cars right in front of that
house with my partner.
1156
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:18,016
And then when I find out where it's
at, I said, "Are you kidding me?"
1157
01:24:18,099 --> 01:24:20,226
I was on that street in front of
that house
1158
01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:23,188
and they're in there and
I can't do nothing about it.
1159
01:24:23,271 --> 01:24:26,107
Tell me that doesn't hurt.
1160
01:24:27,442 --> 01:24:29,319
(SOBS) All right...
1161
01:24:35,617 --> 01:24:38,244
Neighbours say they noticed
something was off
1162
01:24:38,328 --> 01:24:42,499
when the former school bus driver
became increasingly reclusive.
1163
01:24:42,582 --> 01:24:45,085
In the past 15 years,
police response...
1164
01:24:45,168 --> 01:24:48,755
It hit home when he got caught.
1165
01:24:50,965 --> 01:24:53,385
To know the person...
1166
01:24:54,511 --> 01:24:57,639
..that did this to your daughter...
1167
01:25:01,351 --> 01:25:03,853
Back in the day before this
happened to Gina,
1168
01:25:03,937 --> 01:25:07,899
I used to live two houses down
from where he lived then.
1169
01:25:10,026 --> 01:25:15,240
And we knew his daughter cos that's
the one that Gina was hanging with.
1170
01:25:17,742 --> 01:25:20,120
I mean...
1171
01:25:21,496 --> 01:25:24,416
This sick person.
1172
01:25:24,499 --> 01:25:26,584
How could you...?
1173
01:25:26,668 --> 01:25:29,421
I mean, I couldn't believe it.
1174
01:25:40,432 --> 01:25:43,810
I thought that it was important
for him to admit to us
1175
01:25:43,893 --> 01:25:48,064
during the interview that one,
he took the girls and then, two,
1176
01:25:48,148 --> 01:25:53,069
he was involved in some type of
sexual abuse of the girls over the
years.
1177
01:26:00,410 --> 01:26:04,164
Going in, I really wanted to be
non-confrontational.
1178
01:26:08,918 --> 01:26:11,004
Whether it's the truth or not,
1179
01:26:11,087 --> 01:26:14,841
I felt that it was important
for him just to keep talking.
1180
01:26:38,406 --> 01:26:41,826
So we're all sitting there behind
this glass, looking at each other,
1181
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:45,038
like,
"He's not hiding any of this."
1182
01:26:45,121 --> 01:26:47,832
He's saying everything.
1183
01:26:47,916 --> 01:26:50,835
Incredible. I mean, so much climax.
1184
01:26:50,919 --> 01:26:54,464
So much anxiety.
So much everything building up.
1185
01:26:54,547 --> 01:26:57,467
And you expect this volcano to
sputter
1186
01:26:57,550 --> 01:26:59,844
because someone's gonna not really
talk.
1187
01:26:59,928 --> 01:27:02,263
And he just let it all out.
1188
01:27:18,530 --> 01:27:21,866
So what he admitted to was he took
them to his house
1189
01:27:21,950 --> 01:27:24,577
and then forcibly restrained them.
1190
01:27:24,661 --> 01:27:27,872
The other thing he admitted doing
there that, um,
1191
01:27:27,956 --> 01:27:33,837
he had, um, sexual encounters which
would constitute a sex offence.
1192
01:27:38,591 --> 01:27:42,345
Ultimately he was charged with
several hundred counts of
1193
01:27:42,429 --> 01:27:46,975
sexual assaults, physical abuses,
obviously the kidnapping,
1194
01:27:47,058 --> 01:27:50,937
abduction, and then he was charged
with murder,
1195
01:27:51,021 --> 01:27:54,357
for the terminations of pregnancies
for Michelle.
1196
01:28:20,967 --> 01:28:23,261
He should've, you know, just...
1197
01:28:26,139 --> 01:28:30,518
..spent those years in prison
like he should've.
1198
01:28:30,602 --> 01:28:34,439
Unfortunately, he decided to take
the coward's way out.
1199
01:28:37,067 --> 01:28:40,653
Within 30/31 days of him being in
prison,
1200
01:28:40,737 --> 01:28:45,283
he had hung himself in his cell.
1201
01:28:46,951 --> 01:28:48,661
How is that justice?
1202
01:28:48,745 --> 01:28:52,207
If it was up to me, I' have loved
to have seen him do 1,000 years
1203
01:28:52,290 --> 01:28:54,376
and pay every single day he woke up
1204
01:28:54,459 --> 01:28:57,170
for the nightmare
he put upon these three girls.
1205
01:29:02,467 --> 01:29:04,969
Despite being held like that,
1206
01:29:05,053 --> 01:29:10,100
these young girls became these
amazing women.
1207
01:29:10,183 --> 01:29:15,063
Despite the fact that this evil was
holding them back and basically
1208
01:29:15,146 --> 01:29:20,944
in cages, they still defied that
and became amazing women,
1209
01:29:21,027 --> 01:29:24,864
each with their
own inspiring, cool story.
1210
01:29:24,948 --> 01:29:27,367
You see her every day.
1211
01:29:27,450 --> 01:29:30,245
Please stop for just a second
and look at your TV.
1212
01:29:30,328 --> 01:29:33,873
You may know something that can
bring this missing person home.
1213
01:29:33,957 --> 01:29:36,876
Amanda Berry joined
our Fox 8 family.
1214
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,713
Since then every time Amanda's
segment airs,
1215
01:29:39,796 --> 01:29:41,464
the tip line lights up.
1216
01:29:41,548 --> 01:29:43,842
I look up to her even more now.
1217
01:29:43,925 --> 01:29:45,802
She's doing the news,
1218
01:29:45,885 --> 01:29:48,972
she's raising her daughter.
1219
01:29:49,055 --> 01:29:52,225
Everything that she's gone through
that,
1220
01:29:52,308 --> 01:29:54,602
the resilience that she has had,
1221
01:29:54,686 --> 01:29:57,814
you know, that...it's just amazing.
1222
01:30:01,985 --> 01:30:07,365
This is my office for the Cleveland
Family Center For Missing Children
and Adults.
1223
01:30:07,449 --> 01:30:11,411
We help families navigate
the media.
1224
01:30:13,038 --> 01:30:15,457
We teach them to always do
interviews
1225
01:30:15,540 --> 01:30:18,960
cos what if they're missing loved
one has a TV?
1226
01:30:19,044 --> 01:30:22,839
It could give some hope to fight
to come back home to their parents.
1227
01:30:24,257 --> 01:30:27,802
I get to see what families go
through,
1228
01:30:27,886 --> 01:30:31,639
it was kinda like what my
mom and dad went through,
1229
01:30:31,723 --> 01:30:34,642
but it's like right there in front.
1230
01:30:34,726 --> 01:30:37,437
I just wanna help them.
1231
01:30:46,488 --> 01:30:50,492
I've been actually doing what they
call art to heal,
1232
01:30:50,575 --> 01:30:54,537
where you paint a picture that
expresses how you feel that day.
1233
01:30:55,747 --> 01:30:58,917
It can be anything. It can be
a pretty picture of the sea.
1234
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,337
It can be a pretty picture of the
night-time.
1235
01:31:04,047 --> 01:31:08,551
My main focus in life is my
non-profit
1236
01:31:08,635 --> 01:31:11,221
and it travels around the world
1237
01:31:11,304 --> 01:31:16,851
helping women of abuse transition
their life.
1238
01:31:26,736 --> 01:31:28,405
And it's so sad that we had to
1239
01:31:28,488 --> 01:31:31,157
go through what we went through,
1240
01:31:31,241 --> 01:31:33,118
but it made us stronger.
1241
01:31:33,201 --> 01:31:35,745
It made us
more powerful
1242
01:31:35,829 --> 01:31:39,165
and I'm glad
that we're out
1243
01:31:39,249 --> 01:31:41,584
and we're alive now
and we're doing good.
1244
01:31:41,668 --> 01:31:43,336
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