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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,000 SUBTITLES BY LUIS-SUBS 2 00:00:17,476 --> 00:00:21,151 [CARS PASSING BY] 3 00:00:28,904 --> 00:00:32,158 [MAN] It... It's a bit of a walk, you know, 4 00:00:32,324 --> 00:00:36,170 from, you know, back by the drummer over here. 5 00:00:36,328 --> 00:00:39,548 That walk to the front is... is complicated. 6 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:42,459 [ELEVATOR RATTLES] 7 00:00:45,587 --> 00:00:47,510 [SPRINGSTEEN] Singing background remains 8 00:00:47,673 --> 00:00:50,802 a somewhat unheralded position, you know. 9 00:00:51,385 --> 00:00:54,184 - So people make that leap. - [PIANO PLAYING] 10 00:00:54,346 --> 00:00:58,146 [SINGERS HARMONIZING] 11 00:01:00,686 --> 00:01:02,984 [WOMAN] So, what you guys do on that part? 12 00:01:03,146 --> 00:01:07,652 ♪ I'll help you carry on 13 00:01:07,818 --> 00:01:10,617 [VOCALIZING] 14 00:01:10,779 --> 00:01:13,623 It's almost more of a mental leap than... 15 00:01:13,782 --> 00:01:15,659 than just the physical act of singing. 16 00:01:15,826 --> 00:01:17,453 It's a conceptual leap, 17 00:01:17,619 --> 00:01:19,496 and if you can comfortably come up with it, you know, 18 00:01:19,663 --> 00:01:22,212 then you may find a spot out there. 19 00:01:22,374 --> 00:01:28,006 ♪ Carry on for... 20 00:01:28,171 --> 00:01:30,131 [SPRINGSTEEN] But I know tremendous backup singers 21 00:01:30,215 --> 00:01:32,638 who just aren't comfortable in that position. 22 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:36,063 You gotta have that narcissism, you gotta have that ego. 23 00:01:36,221 --> 00:01:39,100 - [SINGING INDISTINCTLY] - [MAN] So shall we do it? 24 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:41,314 [SPRINGSTEEN] It can be a pretty long walk. 25 00:01:41,476 --> 00:01:43,399 - One, two, three! - [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 26 00:01:43,562 --> 00:01:44,609 [INHALES] 27 00:01:45,314 --> 00:01:48,158 [♪ LOU REED: "WALK ON THE WILD SIDE"] 28 00:03:02,057 --> 00:03:04,731 [WOMAN] There's a power to what it is that we do. 29 00:03:04,893 --> 00:03:10,024 No one till right now has publicly acknowledged it, 30 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:12,409 but people love to see the background singers. 31 00:03:12,567 --> 00:03:18,290 I mean, when you think about Lou Reed, "Walk On The Wild Side," 32 00:03:18,448 --> 00:03:23,170 you know, that iconic song with the line that makes a lot of people uncomfortable 33 00:03:23,328 --> 00:03:27,674 because it says "colored girls." But what is he... what is he referencing 34 00:03:27,833 --> 00:03:31,804 when he says, "And the colored girls say do-do-do-do-do?" 35 00:03:31,962 --> 00:03:34,932 The fact that there's a power to these women 36 00:03:35,090 --> 00:03:39,391 that stand on stage and sing with these guys. 37 00:03:39,553 --> 00:03:42,306 [♪ TALKING HEADS: "SLIPPERY PEOPLE"] 38 00:03:46,059 --> 00:03:49,780 Backup singers just bring so much more life to the situation. 39 00:03:51,481 --> 00:03:55,076 When a voice opens up, there comes the life. 40 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:57,909 That's when it's a person-to-person connection. 41 00:03:59,072 --> 00:04:03,043 ♪ What about the time you were rolling over? 42 00:04:03,201 --> 00:04:07,251 ♪ You fall on your face and you must be having fun 43 00:04:07,414 --> 00:04:11,840 ♪ Backsliding How do you do? 44 00:04:12,002 --> 00:04:16,178 You don't hold on necessarily to your individual vocal persona. 45 00:04:16,339 --> 00:04:17,556 ♪ God help us 46 00:04:17,716 --> 00:04:19,093 'Cause you're trying to get your persona 47 00:04:19,259 --> 00:04:23,480 to blend and mesh with the other voices. That's awesome. 48 00:04:23,638 --> 00:04:25,766 - ♪ What's the matter with him? - ♪ He's all right 49 00:04:25,932 --> 00:04:28,052 - ♪ How do you know? - ♪ The Lord won't mind 50 00:04:28,143 --> 00:04:30,316 - ♪ Don't play no games - ♪ He's all right 51 00:04:30,479 --> 00:04:32,322 ♪ Love from the bottom to the top 52 00:04:32,481 --> 00:04:34,700 - ♪ Turn like a wheel - ♪ He's all right 53 00:04:34,858 --> 00:04:36,110 ♪ See for yourself... 54 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:39,655 [WOMAN] There's something that happens when you lock in with somebody 55 00:04:39,821 --> 00:04:42,574 and all the harmonics ping, and, I mean, 56 00:04:42,741 --> 00:04:45,995 if you don't like that, what do you like? 57 00:04:46,161 --> 00:04:50,416 ♪ Cool down Stop acting crazy 58 00:04:50,582 --> 00:04:55,213 ♪ They're gonna leave and we'll be on our own 59 00:04:55,378 --> 00:04:58,803 I could... I could be different people, a chameleon, you know. 60 00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:02,265 It's just like you could change up. You're never bored. 61 00:05:02,427 --> 00:05:04,976 [MUSIC CONTINUES] 62 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,945 I'm a part of the sisterhood. I got to earn this. 63 00:05:12,103 --> 00:05:13,980 It wasn't just a dream that I had 64 00:05:14,147 --> 00:05:17,902 I actually got to sing these songs and sing on key. 65 00:05:18,068 --> 00:05:19,240 - ♪ Like a wheel - ♪ He's all right 66 00:05:19,402 --> 00:05:22,030 - ♪ See for yourself - ♪ The Lord won't mind 67 00:05:22,197 --> 00:05:23,870 - ♪ We're gonna move - ♪ Right now 68 00:05:24,032 --> 00:05:25,955 ♪ Turn like a wheel 69 00:05:26,117 --> 00:05:28,245 [MAN] As a background singer, they would like you to come in, 70 00:05:28,411 --> 00:05:33,133 make things sound great, take very little credit... 71 00:05:34,626 --> 00:05:36,003 and go home quickly. 72 00:05:36,169 --> 00:05:38,046 ♪ It's all right 73 00:05:38,213 --> 00:05:40,432 ♪ The Lord won't mind 74 00:05:40,590 --> 00:05:42,888 ♪ Right now Turn like a wheel 75 00:05:43,051 --> 00:05:45,053 - ♪ Inside a wheel - [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 76 00:05:50,475 --> 00:05:53,524 - [PIANO PLAYING] - [WOMAN] Thank you, Jesus. 77 00:05:54,896 --> 00:05:56,113 Thank you, Father. 78 00:05:57,399 --> 00:05:59,822 ♪ I will enter His gates 79 00:05:59,985 --> 00:06:02,659 ♪ With thanksgiving in my heart 80 00:06:02,821 --> 00:06:06,951 ♪ I will enter His courts with praise 81 00:06:09,119 --> 00:06:12,373 God gave us the ability to create, didn't he? 82 00:06:12,539 --> 00:06:14,507 - [CONGREGATION] Yes, he did. - OK. 83 00:06:14,666 --> 00:06:17,010 Today we're gonna pin this down to music. 84 00:06:17,168 --> 00:06:21,844 ♪ He has made me glad 85 00:06:22,007 --> 00:06:26,763 ♪ I will rejoice for He has made me glad 86 00:06:26,928 --> 00:06:29,977 I see these kids doing this slide, I said, "Oh, child." 87 00:06:30,140 --> 00:06:33,735 He think he got that from, uh... James Brown. 88 00:06:33,894 --> 00:06:35,862 I said, "Oh, that came from one of my pastors." 89 00:06:38,273 --> 00:06:43,029 ♪ He has made me glad 90 00:06:43,194 --> 00:06:47,495 ♪ I will rejoice for He has made me glad 91 00:06:47,657 --> 00:06:49,537 - My father was a minister. - My father was a... 92 00:06:49,618 --> 00:06:51,336 - My father was a... - Pastor's daughter. 93 00:06:51,494 --> 00:06:53,374 - Isn't that cliché? - That's how I was actually 94 00:06:53,496 --> 00:06:55,464 - introduced to music. - [WOMAN] I started as a four-year-old. 95 00:06:55,624 --> 00:06:56,750 [WOMAN 2] All through grammar school. 96 00:06:56,917 --> 00:06:58,965 ♪ I will say this is the day 97 00:06:59,127 --> 00:07:03,177 You come up learning the part that your voice actually fits in. 98 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:07,436 Nobody tells you that's how singers learn how to do background. 99 00:07:07,594 --> 00:07:10,598 Hallelujah, glory, glory. 100 00:07:10,764 --> 00:07:14,018 - [APPLAUSE] - Thank you, Lord. 101 00:07:14,184 --> 00:07:16,357 Thank you, Lord. 102 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:21,696 God gave me this talent and I intend to use it. 103 00:07:21,858 --> 00:07:24,361 And that's what my life has really been all about, 104 00:07:24,527 --> 00:07:28,828 trying to make a success of the gift that I have. 105 00:07:28,990 --> 00:07:32,369 [WOMAN] Darlene Love is the one that's the cause of all of this. 106 00:07:32,702 --> 00:07:34,955 Darlene Love and Fanita James, The Blossoms. 107 00:07:35,121 --> 00:07:37,215 They were the first black background singers 108 00:07:37,374 --> 00:07:39,923 - working in the studios. - [MUSIC PLAYS] 109 00:07:40,085 --> 00:07:43,134 ♪ Silver and gold Silver and gold 110 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:46,049 ♪ Everyone's searching for silver and gold... 111 00:07:46,216 --> 00:07:49,390 When we first got into recordings, it was totally white. 112 00:07:49,552 --> 00:07:53,432 ♪ You'll never find comfort in silver and gold... 113 00:07:53,598 --> 00:07:56,351 [WOMAN] They were all white girls, and they were very tasteful. 114 00:07:56,810 --> 00:08:00,064 They could do arm movements and they could, you know, 115 00:08:00,230 --> 00:08:02,198 get in and go... go to the microphone 116 00:08:02,357 --> 00:08:05,110 and come out of the microphone, but that was about it. 117 00:08:05,276 --> 00:08:09,952 ♪ Silver and gold, everyone's searching Suppose silver and gold 118 00:08:10,115 --> 00:08:13,836 [LOVE] Because it was white singers. We call them the readers. 119 00:08:13,994 --> 00:08:17,214 They couldn't do nothing without that music sitting right in their face. 120 00:08:19,457 --> 00:08:20,754 People would see us walk in. 121 00:08:20,917 --> 00:08:22,437 They wondered what we were doing there. 122 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:25,472 They handed us our music and we took it like we was pros too, 123 00:08:25,630 --> 00:08:27,428 like we would really read this. 124 00:08:28,216 --> 00:08:30,059 [MAN] Then as you got more into the music, 125 00:08:30,301 --> 00:08:34,397 people would want background singers that were free enough 126 00:08:34,556 --> 00:08:35,933 to put feeling in what they were singing. 127 00:08:36,099 --> 00:08:37,646 Not saying that those singers back then 128 00:08:37,809 --> 00:08:39,982 didn't have feeling, but they were 129 00:08:40,145 --> 00:08:42,022 committed to what they saw on the paper. 130 00:08:42,188 --> 00:08:46,659 ♪ In silver and gold ♪ 131 00:08:46,818 --> 00:08:48,820 [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 132 00:08:48,987 --> 00:08:51,991 - ♪ Shimmy, shimmy to and fro - ♪ Oh, yeah 133 00:08:52,157 --> 00:08:54,125 ♪ Shimmy, shimmy to and fro... 134 00:08:54,284 --> 00:08:57,584 [WOMAN] The song that was coming from them was so raw. 135 00:08:57,746 --> 00:09:00,716 That's what it... it was so raw, and so real, 136 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:03,673 that it was hard to deny it. 137 00:09:05,628 --> 00:09:08,131 ♪ Shimmy shimmy It's the dance of the day 138 00:09:08,298 --> 00:09:10,972 ♪ Shimmy shimmy It's new this day 139 00:09:11,134 --> 00:09:13,603 ♪ Shimmy shimmy's gonna help us too 140 00:09:13,762 --> 00:09:16,265 ♪ With mama and papa and you know who 141 00:09:16,806 --> 00:09:19,480 ♪ Shimmy shimmy in my soul 142 00:09:19,642 --> 00:09:22,361 ♪ Shimmy shimmy We'll never grow old 143 00:09:24,647 --> 00:09:26,775 [LOVE] Now this is a surprise! 144 00:09:26,941 --> 00:09:28,693 This is history. 145 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:31,830 None of us have sung together in 30, 40 years. 146 00:09:31,988 --> 00:09:33,786 I was 15 when I first met them. 147 00:09:33,948 --> 00:09:36,326 - Ain't that something? Fifteen. - That's not funny. 148 00:09:38,244 --> 00:09:39,962 That's not funny. 149 00:09:40,121 --> 00:09:42,499 But we were really white before you got in, 150 00:09:42,665 --> 00:09:44,793 - and then you added it... - We had a sweet sound. 151 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:46,506 She brought guts and... 152 00:09:46,669 --> 00:09:50,048 that bottom gospel thing and it made it perfect. 153 00:09:50,215 --> 00:09:52,593 - ♪ Shimmy shimmy - ♪ Oh, yeah 154 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:55,308 [WRIGHT] They made that platform theirs. 155 00:09:55,470 --> 00:09:57,438 The Blossoms made it theirs, 156 00:09:57,597 --> 00:10:01,067 and when they came in, every producer in California 157 00:10:01,226 --> 00:10:04,526 and everywhere else, that's the sound they wanted. That was from The Blossoms. 158 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,403 - [AUDIENCE CHEERING] - [MUSIC CONTINUES] 159 00:10:07,565 --> 00:10:12,241 All you had to do is tell them in what direction you were headed, 160 00:10:12,403 --> 00:10:13,905 and they took you there. 161 00:10:14,072 --> 00:10:15,665 [♪ BOBBY PICKETT: "MONSTER MASH"] 162 00:10:18,701 --> 00:10:22,001 - See when we had to sound white? - Yeah, uh-huh. 163 00:10:22,163 --> 00:10:24,541 [♪ FRANK SINATRA: "THAT'S LIFE"] 164 00:10:28,086 --> 00:10:30,009 [♪ BETTY EVERETT: "THE SHOOP SHOOP SONG"] 165 00:10:35,927 --> 00:10:39,056 ♪ I met him on a Monday and my heart my stood still 166 00:10:39,222 --> 00:10:41,896 ♪ Da-do-ron-ron-ron Da-do-ron-ron 167 00:10:42,058 --> 00:10:44,937 [WOMAN] What was unique about The Blossoms, we could change our sound. 168 00:10:45,103 --> 00:10:48,698 [WOMAN] We worked with people from Buck Owens to James Brown. 169 00:10:48,857 --> 00:10:51,906 ♪ Yes, my heart stood still 170 00:10:52,068 --> 00:10:55,322 ♪ Yes, his name was Bill 171 00:10:55,488 --> 00:10:58,037 ♪ And when he walked me home 172 00:10:58,199 --> 00:11:03,296 ♪ Da-do-ron-ron-ron Da-do-ron-ron ♪ 173 00:11:03,454 --> 00:11:07,550 [LAUGHING] That was perfect, without even rehearsing. 174 00:11:07,709 --> 00:11:11,464 [WRIGHT] The amazing thing about Darlene and Fanita and Jean 175 00:11:11,629 --> 00:11:15,884 is that they weren't afraid of anybody else that did what they did. 176 00:11:16,050 --> 00:11:18,803 And if that producer asked for a particular person 177 00:11:18,970 --> 00:11:20,347 that could do something, Darlene would say, 178 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:22,754 "That's not what I do, but I know a girl that can do it." 179 00:11:22,891 --> 00:11:25,172 And that's how she'll get in, and that's how Merry got in. 180 00:11:25,476 --> 00:11:29,447 - [MUSIC PLAYS ON RADIO] - [WOMAN] Can you turn off the radio? 181 00:11:31,691 --> 00:11:32,817 There... 182 00:11:35,236 --> 00:11:38,581 I mean, how could you not have music on, Morgan, in the Merry Clayton car? 183 00:11:38,740 --> 00:11:40,458 - [WOMAN] I know, right? - That's just... 184 00:11:40,617 --> 00:11:41,817 That's not even logical to me. 185 00:11:41,868 --> 00:11:43,791 [MAN] See, it's much better for us to add the music later. 186 00:11:43,953 --> 00:11:45,671 I know it, but I'm just saying, Morgan, how could you... 187 00:11:45,830 --> 00:11:48,674 How could you logically not have a diva have her music on? 188 00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:51,382 I don't get that. 189 00:11:52,462 --> 00:11:55,636 [PIANO MUSIC PLAYS] 190 00:11:55,798 --> 00:11:58,597 [MAN] Merry Clayton was always the lead background singer, 191 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,513 but she was always a little set apart from that group. 192 00:12:03,848 --> 00:12:06,977 ♪ Well, I am a sister 193 00:12:07,143 --> 00:12:10,113 - ♪ Who can sing - [CROWD RESPONDING] 194 00:12:10,271 --> 00:12:14,822 ♪ I am a sister who can sing 195 00:12:14,984 --> 00:12:18,204 ♪ Oh, but if I die 196 00:12:18,363 --> 00:12:21,742 ♪ And my soul be lost 197 00:12:21,908 --> 00:12:26,709 ♪ Nobody's fault but mine 198 00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:32,043 [WRIGHT] I started going to summer school with Merry, 199 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:34,838 and she'd start singing down the street, and I'd go like, 200 00:12:35,004 --> 00:12:37,006 "This girl is amazing." 201 00:12:37,173 --> 00:12:39,676 ♪ Nobody's fault but mine 202 00:12:39,842 --> 00:12:42,470 ♪ Said nobody's fault 203 00:12:42,637 --> 00:12:45,140 ♪ Nobody's fault but mine 204 00:12:45,306 --> 00:12:47,980 ♪ I said that no one's fault 205 00:12:48,142 --> 00:12:49,860 - ♪ If I die... - [WRIGHT] She had no, uh, 206 00:12:50,019 --> 00:12:51,612 no hidden agendas about it. 207 00:12:51,771 --> 00:12:53,773 She just, "That's what I do." 208 00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:56,693 ♪ Oh, if I die 209 00:12:56,859 --> 00:13:00,033 ♪ And my soul be lost, yeah 210 00:13:00,196 --> 00:13:04,372 ♪ Nobody's fault 211 00:13:04,534 --> 00:13:05,214 ♪ But mine 212 00:13:10,832 --> 00:13:13,506 ♪ Nobody's fault ♪ 213 00:13:13,668 --> 00:13:15,591 [CLAYTON] Ray Charles. He was the only artist 214 00:13:15,753 --> 00:13:17,473 that my father would allow us to go and see, 215 00:13:17,505 --> 00:13:20,429 and I'd stand at the end of the stage with my hand under my chin. 216 00:13:20,591 --> 00:13:24,516 I'd say, "Mm-hmm, I could do this. I'm gonna be a Raelette one day." 217 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,431 I willed myself to be a Raelette. 218 00:13:26,597 --> 00:13:29,646 Now here are the Raelettes to help us from this portion on. 219 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:33,655 - [♪ RAY CHARLES: "WHAT'D I SAY"] - Mm! 220 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:38,284 [CLAYTON] So I was sitting at home one day, 221 00:13:38,443 --> 00:13:41,117 and I got a call from Billy Preston. 222 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:42,747 "This Bill, what are you doing?" 223 00:13:42,905 --> 00:13:44,623 "Putting some clothes away." 224 00:13:44,782 --> 00:13:47,626 "You gotta drop it and you have to come and sing for Ray." 225 00:13:47,785 --> 00:13:49,082 Oh 226 00:13:53,207 --> 00:13:55,926 ♪ When you see me in misery 227 00:13:56,085 --> 00:13:58,053 ♪ Come on, baby See about me now 228 00:13:58,212 --> 00:14:01,136 ♪ No, it don't matter 229 00:14:01,299 --> 00:14:04,223 [CLAYTON] And, of course, you know, I was totally full of myself by then. 230 00:14:04,385 --> 00:14:07,685 I knew the whole spectrum of what you were supposed to do as a singer. 231 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:10,350 ♪ See the girl with the red dress on 232 00:14:10,516 --> 00:14:12,143 ♪ She can filly dog all night long 233 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:14,187 [CLAYTON] But I didn't know anything 234 00:14:14,354 --> 00:14:15,947 about being an entertainer. 235 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:20,409 - ♪ Hey - ♪ Hey 236 00:14:20,568 --> 00:14:22,570 - ♪ Ho - ♪ Ho 237 00:14:22,737 --> 00:14:26,367 - ♪ Hey, ho - ♪ Hey, ho 238 00:14:26,532 --> 00:14:28,785 ♪ Oh, it's all right 239 00:14:28,951 --> 00:14:31,045 ♪ You know it's all right, baby 240 00:14:31,204 --> 00:14:33,005 [CLAYTON] He said, "Yes, you're a lead singer, 241 00:14:33,164 --> 00:14:34,962 but you're singing with three other ladies, Sister Merry. 242 00:14:35,124 --> 00:14:37,126 So we're gonna teach you how to sing 243 00:14:37,293 --> 00:14:39,546 - with three other people." - ♪ You know it's all right 244 00:14:39,712 --> 00:14:41,430 ♪ It's all right 245 00:14:41,589 --> 00:14:43,808 [MAN] He's the minister. The Raelettes are the choir. 246 00:14:43,966 --> 00:14:48,187 He brings that same church format to playing popular music. 247 00:14:48,346 --> 00:14:50,098 Yet he's singing about sex. 248 00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:52,107 - ♪ Shake that thing - ♪ Shake that thing 249 00:14:52,266 --> 00:14:54,689 - ♪ Hey, baby - ♪ Shake that thing 250 00:14:54,852 --> 00:14:57,731 [WONDER] Can you imagine "What'd I Say" that I said already, 251 00:14:57,897 --> 00:15:00,150 without kind of an answer to that? 252 00:15:00,316 --> 00:15:01,568 ♪ Mmm 253 00:15:03,027 --> 00:15:04,244 ♪ Oooh 254 00:15:05,613 --> 00:15:07,365 ♪ Uhh... uhh... 255 00:15:07,532 --> 00:15:08,658 [LAUGHS] 256 00:15:08,825 --> 00:15:11,374 - ♪ Shake that thing - ♪ Shake it, baby 257 00:15:11,536 --> 00:15:14,335 - ♪ Shake that thing - ♪ Shake that thing ♪ 258 00:15:15,832 --> 00:15:18,927 He did a song called "Together Again." 259 00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:22,464 Oh, Lord, I could not find the second part. 260 00:15:22,630 --> 00:15:24,348 I couldn't hear it. 261 00:15:24,507 --> 00:15:26,760 I did not hit the note, he took his finger 262 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:29,224 and banged out my note on the piano, 263 00:15:29,387 --> 00:15:31,890 and 5,000 people were in the audience, 264 00:15:32,056 --> 00:15:35,606 five... huge show in Madison Square Garden somewhere. 265 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:38,738 Bang, bang, bang, bang. He banged out this note. 266 00:15:38,896 --> 00:15:42,070 After that, I remembered everything. 267 00:15:42,233 --> 00:15:44,986 I was not gonna be made to look like a fool. [LAUGHS] 268 00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:47,451 - ♪ Baby, let's go home - ♪ Yeah, let's go home 269 00:15:47,613 --> 00:15:49,866 - ♪ Baby, let's go home - ♪ Go home, baby 270 00:15:50,032 --> 00:15:52,000 - ♪ Baby, let's go home ♪ - Oh! 271 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,585 [SONG ENDS] 272 00:16:00,168 --> 00:16:02,967 [WOMAN] A lot of background singers are just background singers. 273 00:16:03,129 --> 00:16:06,209 They don't wanna do all the drama that accompanies trying to be a solo artist. 274 00:16:06,299 --> 00:16:08,722 Actually, very interesting, if you're talking about background singers, 275 00:16:08,885 --> 00:16:11,354 because Lisa made recordings as a solo artist 276 00:16:11,512 --> 00:16:15,483 and she's a brilliant entertainer. She's really funny. 277 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:19,275 Sings her butt off. Could sing alone all day long, 278 00:16:19,437 --> 00:16:21,235 but doesn't particularly want to. 279 00:16:21,397 --> 00:16:24,276 [CELL PHONE ALARM RINGS] 280 00:16:34,785 --> 00:16:37,334 [SIGHS] Hola. 281 00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:41,047 I don't wanna go to school. [LAUGHS] 282 00:16:41,209 --> 00:16:44,179 [SINGING SCAT] 283 00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:53,221 [FISCHER] I remember when my mom took me to kindergarten. 284 00:16:53,387 --> 00:16:56,812 I told the teacher, it's like, "I wrote a song," right? 285 00:16:56,974 --> 00:16:58,271 "I wanna sing it for the class." 286 00:16:58,434 --> 00:17:00,394 She's like, "Oh, yay, good." I just wouldn't stop. 287 00:17:00,478 --> 00:17:04,403 She had to stop me. Now she's like, "That was fun." 288 00:17:04,565 --> 00:17:06,943 [CONTINUES SINGING SCAT] 289 00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:15,960 [LAWRY] Being with Lisa is really inspiring, 290 00:17:16,118 --> 00:17:18,667 because she's a monster musician. She just doesn't really talk about it. 291 00:17:18,829 --> 00:17:20,672 I mean, she's as good as it gets. 292 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:32,094 [SCAT CONTINUES] 293 00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:41,034 [MAN] Everyone knew who Lisa Fischer was. 294 00:17:41,143 --> 00:17:43,145 She was the talk of the town at the time. 295 00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:50,699 It was strange for me to actually see her standing next to two other singers. 296 00:17:50,861 --> 00:17:52,613 It was weird for me. 297 00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:55,659 She's an incredible artist that stands in front of that room, 298 00:17:55,825 --> 00:18:00,046 in front of everyone, and demands their attention in a really graceful way. 299 00:18:00,204 --> 00:18:02,923 [SCAT CONTINUES] 300 00:18:05,751 --> 00:18:07,753 I love melodies. 301 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,015 I'm... I'm in love with the... 302 00:18:11,173 --> 00:18:14,677 the sound vibration and... 303 00:18:14,844 --> 00:18:17,313 and what it does with other people. 304 00:18:18,306 --> 00:18:21,059 It's familiar, but it's so special 305 00:18:21,225 --> 00:18:23,148 and you're just so happy when you get there. 306 00:18:23,311 --> 00:18:27,066 And you try to stay there for as long as you can. 307 00:18:27,231 --> 00:18:30,781 [CONTINUES SCAT] 308 00:18:41,287 --> 00:18:43,585 [AUSTIN] She's the empress of that world, 309 00:18:43,748 --> 00:18:46,467 and, you know, it might not look like she's ego'd out, 310 00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:50,130 but it takes a lot of ego to decide you're gonna take that position. 311 00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:53,633 'Cause there's a lot of background singers out there, and she's held... 312 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:56,143 She's held that fort down for a long time. 313 00:18:56,302 --> 00:18:58,430 [SCAT CONTINUES] 314 00:18:58,596 --> 00:19:01,691 [FISCHER] For me, singing is about a sharing. 315 00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:05,695 It's never a competition. But there's this other energy sometimes 316 00:19:05,853 --> 00:19:09,778 that I see going on that just makes me insane, you know. 317 00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:13,069 Gee, who can I call to introduce me to so and so and such and such, 318 00:19:13,235 --> 00:19:15,916 but it just... I don't know, something about that feels slimy to me. 319 00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:17,493 I don't know why. 320 00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:23,585 [FISCHER VOCALIZING SOFTLY] 321 00:19:26,248 --> 00:19:28,842 ♪ Yeah ♪ 322 00:19:31,921 --> 00:19:33,298 [CHUCKLES] 323 00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:38,181 To me, there's no more heavenly instrument than the voice. 324 00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:43,479 You can be a great player and you can play things that really move people, 325 00:19:43,641 --> 00:19:47,487 but the voice is the one thing that we all are born with. 326 00:19:47,645 --> 00:19:50,615 I mean, there's so many great singers who are such a massive presence 327 00:19:50,773 --> 00:19:54,027 on so many rock records, people that we don't necessarily know their names, 328 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:57,493 but that had a huge impact. 329 00:19:57,655 --> 00:20:00,750 I remember, um, yeah, there was a Phil Spector special on. 330 00:20:00,908 --> 00:20:04,208 Um, maybe '65-ish. 331 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:06,372 ♪ Every evening when the sun goes down 332 00:20:06,539 --> 00:20:10,260 - ♪ Whoo - [SPECTOR] Hold it. Cut. 333 00:20:10,418 --> 00:20:13,763 [LASLEY] And Darlene Love and The Blossoms were doing this song 334 00:20:13,921 --> 00:20:16,219 that Phil was playing piano on. 335 00:20:16,382 --> 00:20:20,137 ♪ Every morning when the sun goes down 336 00:20:20,302 --> 00:20:23,522 - ♪ Whoo - ♪ Whoo 337 00:20:23,681 --> 00:20:28,061 ♪ I lay my head on the pillow down 338 00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:32,027 And I was like 16 maybe. It just went, like, pow! 339 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:34,817 That's what you're gonna do. 340 00:20:34,984 --> 00:20:36,952 - [MAN] Here we go. - Hey. 341 00:20:37,111 --> 00:20:38,909 - Hi, Darlene. - Robert. 342 00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:41,950 How about, uh, "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)." 343 00:20:42,116 --> 00:20:45,791 - ♪ Christmas - ♪ Snow coming down 344 00:20:45,953 --> 00:20:49,628 - ♪ Christmas - ♪ I'm watching it fall 345 00:20:49,790 --> 00:20:51,633 ♪ Christmas 346 00:20:51,792 --> 00:20:53,715 [LOVE] Phil Spector was the one that started 347 00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:55,596 with the Wall of Sound. He wanted everybody to know 348 00:20:55,755 --> 00:20:57,803 it was a Phil Spector session, 349 00:20:57,965 --> 00:21:00,184 not a Darlene Love session or a Crystals session. 350 00:21:00,342 --> 00:21:02,390 It was a Phil Spector session. 351 00:21:02,553 --> 00:21:04,851 ♪ They're ringing a song 352 00:21:05,014 --> 00:21:07,608 - ♪ Christmas - ♪ What a happy sound 353 00:21:07,767 --> 00:21:12,489 They sound so young. Well, they are. I was 18. I am now 70. 354 00:21:14,565 --> 00:21:16,033 [SPRINGSTEEN] The Spector records... 355 00:21:16,192 --> 00:21:18,115 and it's funny, 'cause though that was a sound 356 00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:21,747 we tried to capture ourselves for many, many years. 357 00:21:21,906 --> 00:21:26,252 And did not, because we didn't realize it was the sound of youth, 358 00:21:26,410 --> 00:21:28,208 of very young people. 359 00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:30,832 And here Darlene not only had 360 00:21:30,998 --> 00:21:32,671 the incredible personality, 361 00:21:32,833 --> 00:21:36,133 but she was a vocal powerhouse. She captures... 362 00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:40,220 Whatever it is, she captures that particular sound, you know. 363 00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:42,350 Amazing, isn't it? 364 00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:46,856 [LAUGHS] I was talented and didn't know it. 365 00:21:47,014 --> 00:21:49,608 When we went in to do "He's a Rebel" I knew it was gonna be 366 00:21:49,767 --> 00:21:52,020 for a group he had in New York. 367 00:21:52,186 --> 00:21:53,938 And I went, "This song ain't gonna do nothin' no way. 368 00:21:54,104 --> 00:21:55,651 Let's just go in, take the money." 369 00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:58,238 And it was my first lead voice. 370 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,993 [♪ "HE'S A REBEL"] 371 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:02,496 ♪ See the way he walks down the street 372 00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:06,159 ♪ Watch the way he shuffles his feet 373 00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:08,168 ♪ My, he holds his head up high 374 00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:10,830 ♪ When he goes walking by 375 00:22:10,996 --> 00:22:14,170 Darlene did a lot of ghosting for records that came out 376 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:15,694 with other people's names on them. 377 00:22:15,709 --> 00:22:18,508 ♪ Not just one of the crowd 378 00:22:20,089 --> 00:22:22,558 [LOVE] The Crystals were out on the road with Gene Pitney, 379 00:22:22,716 --> 00:22:25,469 and the record was climbing the charts, going to number one 380 00:22:25,636 --> 00:22:28,139 and they had never heard the song before. 381 00:22:28,305 --> 00:22:31,400 ♪ He's a rebel and he'll never be any good 382 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:34,938 ♪ He's a rebel 'cause he never ever does what he should 383 00:22:35,104 --> 00:22:39,234 ♪ But just because he doesn't do what everybody else does 384 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,655 ♪ That's no reason why I can't give him all my love 385 00:22:43,821 --> 00:22:47,496 It's pretty debilitating to the spirit, I think, 386 00:22:47,658 --> 00:22:51,913 to sit at home and watch the song that you sang, 387 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:55,754 and there's someone else lip-synching and no one knows that you did it. 388 00:22:55,916 --> 00:23:00,513 ♪ That's no reason why we can't share a love 389 00:23:00,671 --> 00:23:02,264 ♪ He is always good to me... 390 00:23:02,423 --> 00:23:04,721 [LOVE] What hurt is when people hear it on the radio 391 00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:07,012 and they go, "Wow, The Crystals. That's a great song." 392 00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:11,227 And they sitting there telling me that, not knowing I did it. 393 00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:15,569 After the success of "He's A Rebel," 394 00:23:15,728 --> 00:23:17,480 that's when I said, "OK... 395 00:23:17,646 --> 00:23:19,148 He knows how to make hit songs, 396 00:23:19,315 --> 00:23:20,908 so now I need to sign with him." 397 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:22,739 First of all he changed my name from Darlene Wright 398 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:25,075 to Darlene Love, and my first record 399 00:23:25,237 --> 00:23:26,864 was supposed to be "He's Sure The Boy I Love." 400 00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:29,784 So we go into the studio. I'm signed with him now. 401 00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:32,419 Everything is legal. We record "He's Sure The Boy I Love," 402 00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:35,001 and I'm tootling down the street couple of months later 403 00:23:35,164 --> 00:23:37,792 and I hear the disc jockey say, "Well, the new record by The Crystals." 404 00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:41,633 And I'm going, "Crystals? What'd he do? Fly them in?" He didn't tell us. 405 00:23:42,504 --> 00:23:48,136 No, it was my voice on "He's Sure The Boy I Love." So I was really pissed. 406 00:23:50,179 --> 00:23:54,104 [MAN] You couldn't fit two stars in the room at the same time, 407 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:57,440 so Phil Spector really kept her in a box. 408 00:23:57,603 --> 00:23:59,697 The best material that she was putting out 409 00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:01,698 wasn't even coming out under her name. 410 00:24:01,857 --> 00:24:04,360 [SANTOS] What did you think after this song became a hit? 411 00:24:04,526 --> 00:24:06,995 Mad. 412 00:24:07,154 --> 00:24:10,158 'Cause this was a Darlene Love record. 413 00:24:13,118 --> 00:24:18,375 I'm always amazed at how many backup vocalists I've heard 414 00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:22,716 and I've encountered who kill me, who I hear 'em and I think, 415 00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:25,802 "Man, you're as good as Chaka Khan." There's a lot of them. 416 00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:28,184 You won't believe it, man. Like, um... 417 00:24:28,342 --> 00:24:32,097 Tata Vega, who is an unbelievably great vocalist 418 00:24:32,262 --> 00:24:35,482 and is up there with Aretha. I mean, and... and I'm looking at that, 419 00:24:35,641 --> 00:24:38,190 and I'm thinking to myself, "What're you doing?" 420 00:24:38,352 --> 00:24:40,730 ♪ Speak, Lord 421 00:24:42,231 --> 00:24:44,905 ♪ Speak to me 422 00:24:45,567 --> 00:24:49,572 ♪ Oh, speak Lord 423 00:24:49,738 --> 00:24:52,708 ♪ Won't you speak to me? 424 00:24:52,866 --> 00:24:55,915 [VEGA] I just loved music, is all. 425 00:24:56,078 --> 00:24:57,170 It's all I wanted to do. 426 00:24:57,329 --> 00:25:00,754 ♪ I was so lost 427 00:25:00,916 --> 00:25:04,341 I was 16 and I said, "I wanna go to California. 428 00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:09,555 I don't wanna go to school. I wanna be a famous singer. " Very selfish. 429 00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:12,937 And my dad said, "All right." 430 00:25:13,095 --> 00:25:16,269 [HARMONIZING VOCALS] 431 00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:25,320 You had more of a opportunity on the west coast. 432 00:25:25,482 --> 00:25:28,531 You had exposure. 433 00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:31,698 - Us growing up here in LA... - [WOMAN] Mm-hmm. 434 00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,617 - ...was really... - Hollywood always 435 00:25:34,783 --> 00:25:36,456 right down the street. 436 00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:38,461 So we had serious advantage. 437 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,372 Especially with the Motown people. 438 00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:41,756 - With the Motown... - Yes. 439 00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:43,917 Oh, my God. But I remember 440 00:25:44,084 --> 00:25:46,052 too coming up, uh, we would do the long sessions 441 00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:48,464 and we would be going home in the morning. 442 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:50,553 - That's right. - And people would be 443 00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:51,763 just going to work. 444 00:25:51,925 --> 00:25:53,677 [HARMONIZING VOCALS CONTINUE] 445 00:25:53,844 --> 00:25:58,270 Oh, my gosh, Stevie Wonder. He was it for me. 446 00:25:58,432 --> 00:26:02,153 Tata Vega, uh... incredible voice. 447 00:26:02,311 --> 00:26:04,655 Somebody introduced me, you know, "This is Tata Vega." 448 00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:07,692 "Mm-hmm. Nice to meet you." And he kept going. I went, 449 00:26:07,858 --> 00:26:10,407 "OK, I gotta do something. There's a piano." 450 00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:12,663 The only four little teeny chords I know. 451 00:26:12,821 --> 00:26:15,199 And I heard this girl doing all these riffs and like, 452 00:26:15,365 --> 00:26:16,742 I said, "Oh, my God," you know. 453 00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:20,880 He came back. He said, "You sound like me." 454 00:26:21,038 --> 00:26:23,461 Is that her? Is that the same person? It's like... 455 00:26:23,624 --> 00:26:24,921 Yeah! 456 00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:28,384 I just loved music is all. 457 00:26:28,545 --> 00:26:29,842 It's all I wanted to do. 458 00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:31,006 [♪ TATA VEGA: "LET'S MAKE A BETTER WORLD"] 459 00:26:31,173 --> 00:26:32,766 ♪ Oh, listen 460 00:26:32,925 --> 00:26:36,646 ♪ The world we know was built on skill 461 00:26:36,804 --> 00:26:39,478 ♪ That alone don't count 462 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,017 [CHUCKLES] 463 00:26:41,183 --> 00:26:43,527 ♪ Ah, you know without the sweat 464 00:26:43,685 --> 00:26:47,906 ♪ And toil of mind it wouldn't be worth a dime 465 00:26:48,065 --> 00:26:50,568 [SPRINGSTEEN] It goes back, like I say, to the church call and response. 466 00:26:50,734 --> 00:26:54,034 ♪ Pull a fish from the water to the people from the water 467 00:26:54,196 --> 00:26:57,575 ♪ To the river to the bank to the happy to the sad 468 00:26:57,741 --> 00:26:59,539 ♪ Through the first through the last 469 00:26:59,701 --> 00:27:02,750 There's that guy out front, testifying, 470 00:27:02,913 --> 00:27:07,464 and then there's sorta the community behind him, you know, amen'ing. 471 00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,800 ♪ Everybody, let's sing Sing, sing 472 00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:14,763 ♪ Well, everybody Let's sing sing, sing, sing 473 00:27:14,925 --> 00:27:17,019 [SPRINGSTEEN] That was sort of the backup sound 474 00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:20,727 that came straight out of gospel and the church and was secularized. 475 00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:23,688 That was a sound of worldly knowledge. [LAUGHS] 476 00:27:23,851 --> 00:27:27,196 [SOUL MUSIC PLAYS] 477 00:27:29,148 --> 00:27:31,571 [WOMAN] Ike Turner, oh my goodness. Ike and Tina Turner. 478 00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:33,573 I just... I couldn't believe 479 00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:36,579 he asked me if I wanted to start working right away. 480 00:27:36,738 --> 00:27:39,366 And I said, "Well, yes, of course." 481 00:27:39,533 --> 00:27:41,706 But little did I know he meant that week. 482 00:27:41,869 --> 00:27:43,997 [SOUL MUSIC CONTINUES] 483 00:27:47,791 --> 00:27:51,716 [LENNEAR] I think we were the first action figures of R&B, 484 00:27:51,879 --> 00:27:54,007 [LAUGHS] The Ikettes, 485 00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:56,892 the Ike and Tina Turner Review. 486 00:28:00,971 --> 00:28:03,224 [MIDLER] The girls were absolutely sensational. 487 00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:04,937 Tina was a force of nature, of course, 488 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,727 but they were no slouches either. 489 00:28:06,894 --> 00:28:09,022 They were fantastic. 490 00:28:13,901 --> 00:28:16,245 It was what, peace, love and happiness and, you know, 491 00:28:16,403 --> 00:28:18,997 women burning their bras, you know, women's lib, 492 00:28:19,156 --> 00:28:24,128 and the timing was just right for that way to present yourself. 493 00:28:24,286 --> 00:28:28,007 [SOUL MUSIC PLAYS] 494 00:28:35,881 --> 00:28:36,882 [♪ TINA TURNER: "BOLD SOUL SISTER"] 495 00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:39,928 - ♪ Oh! - ♪ Oh, no 496 00:28:40,093 --> 00:28:42,346 [BOYD] Ike Turner saw himself as a pimp, 497 00:28:42,512 --> 00:28:46,813 and he saw his backup singers, even his wife... 498 00:28:46,975 --> 00:28:49,103 - ♪ I do what I wanna do - ...as the women 499 00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:50,646 who worked for him, his hos. 500 00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:51,904 ♪ Do what you wanna 501 00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:53,111 ♪ When you wanna 502 00:28:53,273 --> 00:28:55,150 ♪ Now do your thing, soul sister 503 00:28:55,317 --> 00:28:58,992 [LENNEAR] He made sure that you had a certain look 504 00:28:59,154 --> 00:29:01,748 and that you were able to walk a certain way 505 00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:03,659 and dance a certain way. 506 00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:06,169 ♪ Now I'm gonna try 507 00:29:06,328 --> 00:29:08,171 [MABRY] There are still artists right now 508 00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:10,628 that view a backup singer as eye candy. 509 00:29:10,791 --> 00:29:13,544 Personally, that's not backup singing. That's just playing a role. 510 00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:14,802 ♪ Let me see you 511 00:29:14,962 --> 00:29:16,885 [WOMAN] There's one artist that I've worked with. 512 00:29:17,631 --> 00:29:21,226 I just get chills when I think about how I just was so demoralized, 513 00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:25,390 um, at the office. We were basically naked. 514 00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:29,401 Dress code: "Make guys excite." 515 00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,027 ♪ Let me see it 516 00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:32,979 ♪ Let me see you 517 00:29:34,189 --> 00:29:35,486 ♪ You and I 518 00:29:36,858 --> 00:29:38,610 [LENNEAR] You know, I tried to look nice 519 00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:41,530 and I tried to carry myself in a decent way, 520 00:29:41,697 --> 00:29:45,076 but how it comes across, I mean, I don't set out to say, 521 00:29:45,242 --> 00:29:47,916 "I'm going to be the sex symbol tonight." 522 00:29:48,078 --> 00:29:49,796 [MAN] But you posed in Playboy. 523 00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:52,632 [SIGHS] 524 00:29:55,877 --> 00:29:58,801 There was something in Playboy, yes, there was. 525 00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:10,980 - [SONG ENDS] - [APPLAUSE] 526 00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:21,199 [LOVE] The English rock scene was just a... a phenomenon. 527 00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:22,863 They were trying to sound black. 528 00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:25,533 Most all of them tried to sound black. 529 00:30:25,699 --> 00:30:27,379 And the only way they could get that sound, 530 00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:29,411 they had to use us to get that sound. 531 00:30:29,578 --> 00:30:33,458 Like Led Zeppelin, for example. Robert Plant or Joe Cocker even. 532 00:30:33,623 --> 00:30:34,624 [♪ JOE COCKER: "LEARNING TO LIVE TOGETHER"] 533 00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:36,634 ♪ Once while traveling 534 00:30:36,793 --> 00:30:38,841 ♪ Across the sky 535 00:30:40,464 --> 00:30:44,640 ♪ This lovely planet caught my eye 536 00:30:44,801 --> 00:30:47,725 Many years ago, when I was singing with Ray, 537 00:30:47,888 --> 00:30:52,689 and I saw this guy contorting in the front row of this concert. 538 00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:53,943 So I'm standing like this, 539 00:30:54,102 --> 00:30:55,524 and I'm telling the rest of the girls through my teeth, 540 00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:57,655 "Who is that guy? What's wrong with him?" 541 00:30:57,814 --> 00:30:58,766 ♪ Until we die 542 00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:09,661 ♪ We're just learning to live together 543 00:31:09,826 --> 00:31:12,921 ♪ Learning to live together 544 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,553 ♪ Learning to live together till we die 545 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:21,179 But what I loved about working with Joe 546 00:31:21,338 --> 00:31:24,433 is that he let us be ourselves. 547 00:31:26,343 --> 00:31:28,220 In England, they were like, "Go for it. 548 00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:30,515 Give us all you have." 549 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,900 That... it was the reason for the innovation of rock and roll. 550 00:31:34,059 --> 00:31:36,983 ♪ Oooh 551 00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:40,615 ♪ Ooh-hoo 552 00:31:40,774 --> 00:31:44,074 - ♪ Ooh - ♪ Whoo! 553 00:31:45,278 --> 00:31:46,825 [LENNEAR] He gave us free rein, 554 00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:49,537 and everybody's face would light up, you know. 555 00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:51,622 ♪ Whoo! 556 00:31:51,785 --> 00:31:53,833 ♪ Ooh 557 00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:55,997 And somebody would start singing something, 558 00:31:56,164 --> 00:31:58,132 or someone would start playing something 559 00:31:58,291 --> 00:32:00,134 and everybody just... 560 00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:07,142 ♪ Until we die 561 00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:10,019 ♪ Well, we're learning to live together 562 00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:14,433 And then when I got to A&M, I was coming down the stairs from Lou's office. 563 00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,978 Joe was coming on the lot from that front gate and he said, 564 00:32:18,145 --> 00:32:19,863 "There she bloody is." 565 00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:22,399 He said, "I want you to work on all of my records." 566 00:32:24,901 --> 00:32:26,403 ♪ Learning to live together 567 00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:28,072 At any moment, you would see 568 00:32:28,238 --> 00:32:30,332 James Taylor coming down the hallway, 569 00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:33,915 or you'd see Carole coming out, saying, "Come sing with me." 570 00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:37,126 ♪ Till we die ♪ 571 00:32:41,001 --> 00:32:43,254 Let me in, honey, to my other home. 572 00:32:44,754 --> 00:32:46,756 Whoo! 573 00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:51,269 [♪ THE ROLLING STONES: "GIMME SHELTER"] 574 00:32:54,556 --> 00:32:56,809 What a great studio. 575 00:32:56,975 --> 00:33:00,024 Boy, did we have some times in this studio. 576 00:33:00,187 --> 00:33:03,282 [MUSIC CONTINUES] 577 00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:09,989 So it was like very late at night and I was very, 578 00:33:10,155 --> 00:33:11,623 you know, a little pregnant. 579 00:33:11,781 --> 00:33:13,829 Had curlers and the whole thing in my hair, 580 00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:15,869 getting ready to go to bed. And we got a call 581 00:33:16,036 --> 00:33:20,633 "Merry, there's a group of guys in town called Rolling... 582 00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:23,589 The Rolling somebodies and they're from England, 583 00:33:23,752 --> 00:33:27,507 and they need somebody that will sing with them." 584 00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:31,017 They picked me up with silk pajamas on, 585 00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:34,806 a mink coat, and a Chanel scarf on my head. 586 00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:38,441 [MAN] We said, "It'd be wonderful if a woman sang this part about, 587 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,069 that I'd written about rape, murder and all this. 588 00:33:41,228 --> 00:33:43,731 It was in the middle of the night and we thought, 589 00:33:43,897 --> 00:33:45,615 "Well, we would love to have a woman sing this part." 590 00:33:45,774 --> 00:33:47,902 I didn't know her from Adam. 591 00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:49,490 Then she turned up in her curlers. 592 00:33:49,653 --> 00:33:51,246 She was in bed and she got outta bed. 593 00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:53,907 And, you know, it was a kind of raunchy part to sing. 594 00:33:54,074 --> 00:33:55,917 I said, "What? 595 00:33:57,953 --> 00:34:01,048 Rape, murder? It's just a shot away?" 596 00:34:01,206 --> 00:34:06,178 I started to sing: "it's just a shot away, just a shot away" with Mick. 597 00:34:06,336 --> 00:34:09,465 She sings the lyrics right along me, and with a lot of personality, 598 00:34:09,631 --> 00:34:10,848 which is what was needed. 599 00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:13,305 ♪ Don't you worry 600 00:34:13,468 --> 00:34:17,223 ♪ War, children 601 00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:21,019 ♪ It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 602 00:34:21,184 --> 00:34:27,237 What I liked was that she could sing. She was able to be Merry. 603 00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:29,367 She didn't have to bring it down. 604 00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:32,200 He said, "You wanna do another one?" I said, "Sure, I'll do another one." 605 00:34:32,362 --> 00:34:34,785 I mean, she just did it, like, couple of times, you know. 606 00:34:34,948 --> 00:34:38,168 So I said to myself, "Mm-hmm, I'm gonna do another 607 00:34:38,326 --> 00:34:40,829 and I'm gonna blow them outta this room." 608 00:34:42,497 --> 00:34:46,923 I went in again and I did that pass on the part that says, 609 00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:49,838 ♪ Rape, murder Just a shot away 610 00:34:50,005 --> 00:34:52,053 So I had to go up another octave. 611 00:34:52,215 --> 00:34:54,183 [SHOUTING] 612 00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:57,972 ♪ Rape, murder 613 00:34:58,138 --> 00:35:02,063 ♪ It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 614 00:35:02,225 --> 00:35:05,980 ♪ Rape, murder, yeah 615 00:35:06,146 --> 00:35:10,322 ♪ It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 616 00:35:10,483 --> 00:35:13,703 - ♪ Rape, murder - [MAN] Whoo! 617 00:35:13,862 --> 00:35:18,083 ♪ It's just a shot away It's a just shot away 618 00:35:18,241 --> 00:35:21,620 ♪ Yeah, yeah 619 00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:23,880 - ["GIMME SHELTER"] - [JAGGER] You know, you do these things 620 00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:25,040 at sort of two in the morning, 621 00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:27,709 and then you come in the next day and you go, "Bloody hell, that's good." 622 00:35:27,876 --> 00:35:31,801 Yeah. I don't hear a hand clap. [LAUGHS] 623 00:35:31,963 --> 00:35:34,933 [JONES] Everybody just tells me, "You have to bring everything down." 624 00:35:35,091 --> 00:35:37,435 So when the rock and roll world came and said, 625 00:35:37,594 --> 00:35:41,098 "No, we want you to sing," it saved us. 626 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:44,438 It saved us. Saved our lives. 627 00:35:45,602 --> 00:35:48,230 [ROCK MUSIC PLAYS] 628 00:35:54,569 --> 00:35:59,040 Lisa, let's practice that. Lisa, let's do that. 629 00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,201 Let's just... just do the coda. 630 00:36:01,368 --> 00:36:05,919 - [HUMMING] - So Vinnie, from the coda. 631 00:36:06,081 --> 00:36:09,130 - Just the coda. - [SOFT ROCK PLAYS] 632 00:36:13,046 --> 00:36:14,798 ♪ Mercury falling 633 00:36:15,465 --> 00:36:17,593 [VOCALIZING] 634 00:36:17,759 --> 00:36:20,137 ♪ I rise from my bed 635 00:36:23,598 --> 00:36:25,771 ♪ Collect my thoughts together 636 00:36:29,771 --> 00:36:32,820 ♪ But have to hold my head 637 00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:41,788 - ♪ Seems that she's gone - ♪ Gone 638 00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:45,045 ♪ Leaving me too soon 639 00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:47,752 During "The Hounds of Winter," I just indicated to Lisa 640 00:36:47,914 --> 00:36:50,337 that she should, you know, vocalize and do something 641 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:53,800 to evoke the spirit of loneliness. 642 00:36:53,962 --> 00:36:56,636 [VOCALIZING] 643 00:36:56,798 --> 00:36:59,551 And out comes this voice, you know, amazing, 644 00:37:00,885 --> 00:37:03,229 extraordinary, ghostly voice. 645 00:37:03,388 --> 00:37:05,811 So every time she's performed that with me, 646 00:37:05,974 --> 00:37:08,352 I've asked her to do that. 647 00:37:10,895 --> 00:37:13,523 [STING] Lisa, give... you can give me more than that. 648 00:37:13,690 --> 00:37:15,363 Really? OK. 649 00:37:15,525 --> 00:37:17,527 [STING] Give me something to play with. 650 00:37:17,694 --> 00:37:20,493 - Let me reel you in. - [LAUGHS] 651 00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:24,285 - [IMITATES FISHING REEL] - [GUITAR PLAYING] 652 00:37:24,451 --> 00:37:27,330 And I'm also intensely proud of my band. 653 00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:32,092 My greatest pleasure is to stand back and let them do what they can do. 654 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,093 [BOTTI] And they kick into this song called "Hounds of Winter," 655 00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:35,754 and they go to this out vamp. 656 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,639 And Sting was cool enough to say, "All right, go. 657 00:37:38,798 --> 00:37:40,846 Put a spotlight on her and just turn her loose." 658 00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:44,434 - [VOCALIZING] - [ROCK MUSIC PLAYS] 659 00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:25,350 - [CROWD CHEERING] - Lisa Fischer. 660 00:38:25,512 --> 00:38:29,392 [STING] That's a powerhouse voice, you know, and... 661 00:38:29,557 --> 00:38:32,356 I think of her as a star. 662 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:34,362 She's a star. 663 00:38:34,521 --> 00:38:37,570 [HUMMING] 664 00:38:41,194 --> 00:38:44,164 She puts her whole self into it and then 665 00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:47,622 there's just something totally transcendent that happens. 666 00:38:47,784 --> 00:38:51,709 [VOCALIZING] 667 00:38:54,541 --> 00:38:58,466 [FISCHER] You're a little feather, 668 00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:01,598 and somebody just said... [BLOWS] and you just go. 669 00:39:07,595 --> 00:39:09,973 You just go and you never fall. 670 00:39:10,139 --> 00:39:12,483 You never hit your head. You just kinda land. 671 00:39:12,642 --> 00:39:15,270 That's what it feels like to me. 672 00:39:20,984 --> 00:39:23,203 [MAXWELL] The human voice is the most pure expression 673 00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:24,533 coming from your own being. 674 00:39:24,696 --> 00:39:29,076 There's nothing between your soul and your ability and your body and them. 675 00:39:29,242 --> 00:39:32,416 It's not being camouflaged by a trumpet or a saxophone or guitar. 676 00:39:32,579 --> 00:39:35,583 It's pure, and that's why they're so sensitive about it, 677 00:39:35,748 --> 00:39:37,546 because they're putting it out there. 678 00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:43,013 [VOCALIZING ENDS] 679 00:39:43,423 --> 00:39:45,346 [FISCHER] Everything's a mess. Sorry. 680 00:39:45,508 --> 00:39:49,763 Uh... everything's a mess. It's just a mess. 681 00:39:49,929 --> 00:39:54,526 Uh, these are old gold albums I haven't put up yet. Um... 682 00:39:54,684 --> 00:39:58,439 That's something from Tina Turner's tour that was a gift from her. 683 00:39:58,605 --> 00:40:02,530 This is, um, an old poster of Luther Vandross that I love. 684 00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:04,740 I met him right after that tour. 685 00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:08,248 When I auditioned for him, I walk into the room 686 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:10,784 and he's sitting around the piano and there's this, um, 687 00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:13,078 container with some fried chicken in it. 688 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,214 I had to giggle. I was just like, "Yeah!" 689 00:40:16,372 --> 00:40:18,750 - ♪ And the eagle - ♪ And the eagle 690 00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:21,466 - ♪ And the eagle flies - Oh... 691 00:40:21,628 --> 00:40:22,971 [FISCHER] And he goes... 692 00:40:23,129 --> 00:40:26,303 ♪ And the eagle flies ♪ 693 00:40:26,466 --> 00:40:28,434 "Sing this for me." 694 00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:30,220 And I would sing something to him. 695 00:40:30,386 --> 00:40:35,233 He's like, "OK, now can you give that to me with more air?" 696 00:40:35,391 --> 00:40:38,315 And that was like, "More air?" I was like, "OK." 697 00:40:38,478 --> 00:40:42,608 'Cause, you know, nobody was talking about those subtleties, you know. 698 00:40:42,774 --> 00:40:44,947 [LASLEY] A lot of his approach was breath and air. 699 00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:48,158 Sometimes the finesse of a note, like... No turning back 700 00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:50,995 Like, the way you got off a note... Back 701 00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:54,707 - One, two... - ♪ And there's a rose 702 00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:58,089 I sounded just like that yesterday when I was understudying the note. 703 00:40:58,247 --> 00:40:59,840 - [LAUGHING] - [WOMAN] He really did. 704 00:41:00,541 --> 00:41:02,384 [VANDROSS] You know what I'm saying? I was up there. 705 00:41:02,543 --> 00:41:04,716 - [WOMAN] He was up there. - It was me and John Glenn. 706 00:41:06,089 --> 00:41:09,059 [FISCHER] After we were done singing, he says, "Well, " he says, 707 00:41:09,217 --> 00:41:11,766 "if you can dance, you've got this gig." 708 00:41:11,928 --> 00:41:14,647 And I was like, "Yay!" And then I was like, "Uh-oh." 709 00:41:15,932 --> 00:41:18,902 Wait a minute. Oh, I've got two left feet. 710 00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:21,654 Lisa. ♪ Are you ready now? 711 00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:23,656 - Hoo You sound nice 712 00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:25,567 - ♪ Say it twice - ♪ Hoo, hoo 713 00:41:25,733 --> 00:41:27,986 ♪ Are you ready? Won't you tell me, doll? 714 00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:31,281 - ♪ Yeah - ♪ Tell me and then tell me again 715 00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:33,199 - ♪ Hoo, hoo - ♪ Now do it... 716 00:41:33,366 --> 00:41:36,540 [FISCHER] He knew how to pull each gift together 717 00:41:36,703 --> 00:41:41,550 and make this beautiful... piece of jewelry. 718 00:41:41,708 --> 00:41:44,302 - ♪ All the way - ♪ All 719 00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:47,805 [VANDROSS] You know, when I was a kid buying records 720 00:41:47,964 --> 00:41:50,467 by The Shirelles, by Aretha Franklin, by Dionne Warwick, 721 00:41:50,633 --> 00:41:53,682 one of the first things that appealed to me 722 00:41:53,845 --> 00:41:58,021 were the background vocals, and that remained with me. 723 00:41:58,182 --> 00:42:02,232 Luther was a background singer and a jingle singer in New York. 724 00:42:02,395 --> 00:42:04,739 Back in those days, Luther was very heavy 725 00:42:04,897 --> 00:42:08,071 and wore three-piece suits, sweating like a pig, 726 00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:10,407 singing like an angel. 727 00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:12,743 [SPRINGSTEEN] Luther Vandross, when I first met Luther Vandross, 728 00:42:12,905 --> 00:42:15,704 I went down to Philadelphia, David Bowie... 729 00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:19,792 David Bowie invited me down, 1973, to hear... 730 00:42:19,954 --> 00:42:22,377 He was recording "Young Americans." 731 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:25,464 And I had one record out and he cut a couple of my songs, 732 00:42:25,626 --> 00:42:28,220 and so I was tremendously excited 733 00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:30,552 and I took the bus to Philadelphia. 734 00:42:30,715 --> 00:42:33,639 And I went in the studio and I met David and I met the band. 735 00:42:33,801 --> 00:42:35,929 And Luther Vandross was one of the backup singers 736 00:42:36,095 --> 00:42:38,939 in David... David Bowie's Young Americans band. 737 00:42:39,098 --> 00:42:41,476 My God, I can trot on that. 738 00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:44,065 ♪ Time, giving it 739 00:42:44,228 --> 00:42:46,401 - ♪ Giving it - ♪ Keeping it back 740 00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:48,737 That's cool. That's cool. OK, next one. 741 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,449 Gotta do it this way to get it... One, two... 742 00:42:51,611 --> 00:42:53,909 [SPRINGSTEEN] Well, it was... [SINGS] It was just fabulous, you know. 743 00:42:54,072 --> 00:42:57,667 And it was David Bowie's soul record, in that sense, 744 00:42:57,825 --> 00:43:02,046 and he called on those voices that were rooted in the church to bring that in, 745 00:43:02,205 --> 00:43:05,209 because they bring a world with them, a world with them. 746 00:43:05,374 --> 00:43:08,548 ♪ All night 747 00:43:08,711 --> 00:43:11,464 ♪ All night She wants the young American 748 00:43:11,631 --> 00:43:14,225 ♪ Young American Young American 749 00:43:14,383 --> 00:43:16,226 ♪ She wants the young American 750 00:43:18,221 --> 00:43:21,350 I believe that, you know, the role of the backup singer 751 00:43:21,516 --> 00:43:23,109 evolves as music evolves. 752 00:43:23,267 --> 00:43:26,487 [AUSTIN] Music was becoming more complicated and richer 753 00:43:26,646 --> 00:43:28,489 and more interesting in the '70s, 754 00:43:28,648 --> 00:43:30,992 and so the backgrounds became more sophisticated. 755 00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:35,405 It just became more than vocals. It was the music. 756 00:43:35,571 --> 00:43:38,324 ♪ All night 757 00:43:38,491 --> 00:43:40,914 ♪ All night She wants a young American 758 00:43:41,077 --> 00:43:42,499 ♪ Young American 759 00:43:42,662 --> 00:43:44,142 [LESLEY] And you find yourself singing 760 00:43:44,288 --> 00:43:46,461 what the background singers sang, 761 00:43:46,624 --> 00:43:48,467 as much as what the lead singer sang. 762 00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:51,675 ♪ Mama's got cramps and look at my hands shake 763 00:43:51,838 --> 00:43:54,466 ♪ I heard the news today Oh, boy 764 00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:56,851 ♪ I got a suite and you got defeat 765 00:43:57,009 --> 00:44:00,013 ♪ Ain't there a woman I can sock on the jaw? 766 00:44:00,179 --> 00:44:02,432 ♪ Ain't there a man who can say no more? 767 00:44:02,598 --> 00:44:05,192 ♪ Ain't there a child I can hold without judging? 768 00:44:05,351 --> 00:44:07,945 ♪ Ain't there a pen that will write before they die? 769 00:44:08,104 --> 00:44:10,653 ♪ Ain't you proud that you've still got faces? 770 00:44:10,815 --> 00:44:15,366 ♪ Ain't there one damn song that can make me 771 00:44:15,528 --> 00:44:18,577 ♪ Break down and cry? 772 00:44:18,739 --> 00:44:22,994 - ♪ All night - ♪ All night 773 00:44:23,161 --> 00:44:27,337 [WOMAN] You know, when you think about the history of pop music 774 00:44:27,498 --> 00:44:30,502 and all the memorable hooks that people sing along with, 775 00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:33,091 they're singing with us most of the time, 776 00:44:33,254 --> 00:44:37,134 because that's what we do on records. We come in and sing the hooks. 777 00:44:38,176 --> 00:44:39,177 [ROCK MUSIC PLAYING] 778 00:44:39,343 --> 00:44:41,345 [♪ GEORGE HARRISON: "WAH WAH"] 779 00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:58,572 ♪ Wah-wah 780 00:44:58,738 --> 00:45:01,833 ♪ You give me a wah-wah 781 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:06,955 [LENNEAR] That show was just something that was cosmic. 782 00:45:08,915 --> 00:45:11,213 If you were there to experience it, 783 00:45:11,375 --> 00:45:14,720 it will be something you'll take to the grave. 784 00:45:14,879 --> 00:45:18,850 ♪ Wah-wah 785 00:45:25,306 --> 00:45:27,684 [JONES] Claudia Lennear had that exposure, 786 00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:33,232 and then the next big moment came for her with, um, The Rolling Stones. 787 00:45:33,397 --> 00:45:36,992 [JAGGER] And Claudia Lennear, she was like the really hot one of the... 788 00:45:37,151 --> 00:45:38,949 of the Ikettes, you know. 789 00:45:39,111 --> 00:45:42,615 She was a really great dancer, very hot, beautiful girl. 790 00:45:42,782 --> 00:45:46,252 [AUSTIN] There were a few young ladies in the background world 791 00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:50,040 who were trying to get to the leading men as quickly as possible. 792 00:45:52,458 --> 00:45:56,088 [LENNEAR] You know, Mick and I had a very special relationship, 793 00:45:56,254 --> 00:45:58,848 and we used to have so much fun. 794 00:45:59,006 --> 00:46:02,476 We used to have so much fun, just doing silly things, 795 00:46:02,635 --> 00:46:06,811 dressing in each other's clothes. Just crazy, wacky stuff. 796 00:46:10,142 --> 00:46:12,315 You know, Mick has his bad boy image 797 00:46:12,478 --> 00:46:15,607 and David had his androgynous look, 798 00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:19,152 but first and foremost, they were just all really sweet. 799 00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:21,779 Well, anyway, she must have enjoyed those times, 800 00:46:21,946 --> 00:46:23,823 because she looked like she was. 801 00:46:26,993 --> 00:46:30,873 ♪ I don't need no wah-wah 802 00:46:33,624 --> 00:46:37,470 - ♪ Wah-wah - ♪ And I know how sweet life can be 803 00:46:37,628 --> 00:46:40,632 [CLAYTON] At that particular time, there was so much going on in the world, 804 00:46:40,798 --> 00:46:43,426 with the Civil Rights Movement and the war. 805 00:46:43,592 --> 00:46:46,641 [GREENE] Though there was so much politically going on, 806 00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:49,353 you know, you're pretty insulated from it a lot of times 807 00:46:49,515 --> 00:46:52,519 and you only really find it out 808 00:46:52,685 --> 00:46:54,437 when you get out there on the road, 809 00:46:54,603 --> 00:46:56,822 the places that you stay, the people that you talk to. 810 00:46:56,981 --> 00:47:00,030 You're able to see the actual politics and the culture, 811 00:47:00,192 --> 00:47:01,793 you know, what's going on in the culture. 812 00:47:05,489 --> 00:47:10,461 It was weird. It was happy, musically, but it was a sad time. 813 00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:13,338 [MAN] One, two, three. 814 00:47:13,497 --> 00:47:16,626 [♪ LYNYRD SKYNYRD: "SWEET HOME ALABAMA"] 815 00:47:16,792 --> 00:47:18,135 [MAN] Turn it up. 816 00:47:20,963 --> 00:47:22,806 [CLAYTON] I think Clydie King called me for that session. 817 00:47:22,965 --> 00:47:25,718 She said, "There's this guy. His name is Lynyrd Skynyrd. " 818 00:47:25,885 --> 00:47:30,061 I said, "Really?" She said, "Yes, and he wants to do this song 819 00:47:30,222 --> 00:47:32,520 called 'Sweet Home A...“' I said, "Alabama? 820 00:47:32,683 --> 00:47:35,027 Honey, nobody wants to sing anything about Alabama." 821 00:47:35,186 --> 00:47:37,564 I certainly didn't wanna sing anything about Alabama. 822 00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:41,075 ♪ Well, I heard Mr. Young sing about her 823 00:47:42,902 --> 00:47:45,906 ♪ Well, I heard ole Neil put her down 824 00:47:48,074 --> 00:47:50,873 ♪ Well, I hope Neil Young will remember 825 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,498 ♪ A southern man don't need him around 826 00:47:55,664 --> 00:47:58,338 [BOYD] It was a moment when this idea of black power 827 00:47:58,501 --> 00:48:01,345 had a lot to do with people defining themselves 828 00:48:01,504 --> 00:48:05,384 based on their own ideas, as opposed to white overseer's view 829 00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:07,392 of how one should behave. 830 00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:09,474 We don't give a fuck about whether or not 831 00:48:09,637 --> 00:48:11,677 white people are offended. We're gonna do our thing. 832 00:48:11,764 --> 00:48:14,859 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 833 00:48:18,270 --> 00:48:21,023 [CLAYTON] My husband was 19 years older than I was. 834 00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:24,865 He said, "Oh, you need to sing 'Sweet Home Alabama."' 835 00:48:25,027 --> 00:48:29,203 I said, "Well, why?" He says, "You'll understand later in life." 836 00:48:29,365 --> 00:48:32,289 He said, "Right now, you don't understand, Merry. You're young. 837 00:48:32,451 --> 00:48:35,250 You don't... you don't really understand." 838 00:48:35,413 --> 00:48:41,045 ♪ In Birmingham they love the governor, boo-hoo-hoo 839 00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:43,383 ♪ Now we all did what could do 840 00:48:44,839 --> 00:48:46,762 That's what we were doing, we were living. 841 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:50,519 We were living the moment, living that emotion, creating. 842 00:48:50,678 --> 00:48:54,524 It was basically like a slap in the face. A-ha, sweet home Alabama. 843 00:48:54,682 --> 00:48:56,184 We got your sweet home Alabama. 844 00:48:56,350 --> 00:48:59,194 [SONG CONTINUES] 845 00:48:59,353 --> 00:49:04,029 But we gonna sing you anyway, and we're gonna sing the crap out of you. 846 00:49:04,191 --> 00:49:06,410 [SONG CONTINUES] 847 00:49:13,784 --> 00:49:15,957 [BOYD] If given the opportunity, 848 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,341 we will demonstrate our value beyond any reasonable doubt, 849 00:49:20,499 --> 00:49:24,129 so much so that going forward, when you start to define singing, 850 00:49:24,295 --> 00:49:27,469 it's going to be based on this transformative sound 851 00:49:27,631 --> 00:49:29,850 coming out of these backup singers' mouths. 852 00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:33,850 [SONG CONTINUES] 853 00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:41,980 My way of being an activist in our struggle 854 00:49:42,146 --> 00:49:46,947 as a black people was to do the music. 855 00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:51,080 ♪ Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord It's the last line. 856 00:49:51,238 --> 00:49:57,712 ♪ Lord lift us up 857 00:50:01,665 --> 00:50:04,839 ♪ Where we belong 858 00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:10,133 ♪ Where the eagles cry 859 00:50:10,299 --> 00:50:14,679 ♪ On a mountain high 860 00:50:16,222 --> 00:50:18,600 ♪ Lord lift us up 861 00:50:18,766 --> 00:50:22,771 ♪ Where we belong 862 00:50:24,522 --> 00:50:28,868 ♪ Up where the thrill below 863 00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:34,829 ♪ Up where the free winds blow ♪ 864 00:50:39,745 --> 00:50:41,918 Any song that you can name with background on it, 865 00:50:42,081 --> 00:50:44,129 either I was doing it with a bunch of girls, 866 00:50:44,291 --> 00:50:45,964 or either the Waters were doing it. 867 00:50:46,126 --> 00:50:47,806 [WATERS] We always went in the studio with, 868 00:50:47,962 --> 00:50:50,215 "God, we're on this song." 869 00:50:50,381 --> 00:50:54,557 And we would always do our very best, like it was ours. 870 00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:57,141 - Patti LaBelle. - Patti LaBelle. 871 00:50:57,304 --> 00:50:59,064 - "You Are My Friend." - "You Are My Friend." 872 00:50:59,098 --> 00:51:03,274 - The Bad Girls album. - [♪ "BAD GIRLS"] 873 00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:09,366 ♪ Toot-toot, ahh, beep-beep 874 00:51:09,525 --> 00:51:12,119 That's when we really cleaned up. 875 00:51:12,278 --> 00:51:14,531 - [MAN] Whitney Houston. - Whitney Houston, 876 00:51:14,697 --> 00:51:15,789 "The Greatest Love of All." 877 00:51:15,948 --> 00:51:18,326 - All those LPs. - The Disney characters. 878 00:51:18,492 --> 00:51:20,335 - Yes. - That's us on there, 879 00:51:20,494 --> 00:51:21,837 the "Small World," you know. 880 00:51:21,996 --> 00:51:23,964 - You hear all that singing. - Lion King. 881 00:51:24,123 --> 00:51:29,675 [SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE] 882 00:51:29,837 --> 00:51:32,215 - Uh-huh. - Growing Pains. 883 00:51:32,381 --> 00:51:35,385 As long as we got each other.. 884 00:51:35,801 --> 00:51:36,927 The biggest selling record 885 00:51:37,094 --> 00:51:39,722 in the history of records, Michael Jackson's Thriller. 886 00:51:39,888 --> 00:51:42,687 [♪ MICHAEL JACKSON: "THRILLER"] 887 00:51:42,850 --> 00:51:44,568 ♪ 'Cause this is Thriller 888 00:51:44,727 --> 00:51:47,401 [MALE WATERS] And the biggest selling movie, Avatar. 889 00:51:47,563 --> 00:51:50,282 It's some bird sounds and things like that. 890 00:51:50,441 --> 00:51:53,365 [SCREECHES] Stuff like that, 891 00:51:53,527 --> 00:51:56,872 you know, different things... But doing this kinda just took us away 892 00:51:57,031 --> 00:51:59,159 from doing our own records, you know, 893 00:51:59,325 --> 00:52:00,926 and stuff like that, which we used to do. 894 00:52:02,578 --> 00:52:05,377 Singing, you know, oohs and aahs and... 895 00:52:05,539 --> 00:52:08,042 It's kinda fun for a minute. Uh... 896 00:52:08,208 --> 00:52:09,881 I'm not sure if I'd like to do it for a living. 897 00:52:10,044 --> 00:52:13,639 [♪ TOM JONES: "RIVER DEEP, MOUNTAIN HIGH"] 898 00:52:13,797 --> 00:52:19,179 ♪ I love you baby like a flower loves the spring 899 00:52:19,345 --> 00:52:24,818 ♪ And I love you baby like a robin loves to sing 900 00:52:24,975 --> 00:52:29,981 ♪ And I love you baby, like the schoolboy loves to play 901 00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:32,900 ♪ Oh, and I love you baby 902 00:52:33,067 --> 00:52:36,241 ♪ River deep and mountain high 903 00:52:36,403 --> 00:52:38,244 [LOVE] Phil Spector's name started getting big, 904 00:52:38,364 --> 00:52:39,581 my name started getting big, 905 00:52:39,740 --> 00:52:43,290 because the rock and roll people like Bruce and Elton John 906 00:52:43,452 --> 00:52:46,376 and Stevie wanted to know who that girl singer was. 907 00:52:46,538 --> 00:52:48,131 ♪ I want you baby 908 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,971 I mean, she without question, is a lead singer. 909 00:52:54,129 --> 00:52:55,631 You started to pick up that voice 910 00:52:55,798 --> 00:52:59,428 and you began to have an allegiance to that voice. 911 00:52:59,593 --> 00:53:04,440 ♪ River deep, mountain high 912 00:53:05,849 --> 00:53:09,069 ♪ If I lost you, would I cry? 913 00:53:09,228 --> 00:53:13,984 [LOVE] That made me wanna be out there by myself even more as a solo artist. 914 00:53:14,149 --> 00:53:17,995 ♪ Baby, baby ♪ 915 00:53:18,153 --> 00:53:22,124 I saw then I'd have to leave that group to become a solo singer. 916 00:53:22,282 --> 00:53:23,704 [CLAYTON] Singing background, to me, 917 00:53:23,867 --> 00:53:27,087 it was like a rehearsal for what I was gonna do for my project. 918 00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:32,297 I wanted to sing as Merry Clayton, 919 00:53:32,459 --> 00:53:37,511 to the masses. I wanted to get my stuff out to the masses, 920 00:53:37,673 --> 00:53:39,892 and God sent me Lou Adler. 921 00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:43,304 [SOUL MUSIC PLAYS] 922 00:53:46,348 --> 00:53:51,070 Merry consciously wanted to be a solo artist and a star. 923 00:53:52,438 --> 00:53:55,738 Whenever Merry appeared, standing ovations. 924 00:53:55,899 --> 00:53:59,949 I mean, it's as if they never had seen or heard someone like that. 925 00:54:00,112 --> 00:54:05,164 ♪ Southern man You'd better keep your head 926 00:54:05,325 --> 00:54:10,627 ♪ Don't forget what your good book said 927 00:54:10,789 --> 00:54:14,839 When it came to my project, I was gonna kick ass and take names. 928 00:54:15,002 --> 00:54:19,508 ♪ Southern man When will you pay them back? 929 00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:22,643 ♪ I heard screaming 930 00:54:22,801 --> 00:54:25,725 ♪ Bullwhip cracking 931 00:54:25,888 --> 00:54:28,482 ♪ How long? How long? 932 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,645 ♪ How long? Baby, how long? 933 00:54:32,811 --> 00:54:35,280 [ADLER] She made three really good albums. 934 00:54:35,439 --> 00:54:38,739 They all sound like somebody that's as big as Aretha Franklin. 935 00:54:38,901 --> 00:54:42,030 ♪ Why don't you get yourself together? 936 00:54:42,196 --> 00:54:44,745 ♪ Get your heart, your mind 937 00:54:44,907 --> 00:54:48,832 ♪ And your soul together, oh 938 00:54:48,994 --> 00:54:50,541 [CLAYTON] I think Lou did a great job 939 00:54:50,704 --> 00:54:53,548 and A&M did a great job promoting my records here. 940 00:54:53,707 --> 00:54:56,881 [LOVE] I think you do, number one, have to have that kill spirit, 941 00:54:57,044 --> 00:54:58,216 to really want it. 942 00:54:58,378 --> 00:55:00,676 Now, Merry Clayton got the kill spirit. 943 00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:02,512 I don't know why she wasn't a superstar. 944 00:55:02,674 --> 00:55:05,473 ♪ One day I'm gonna cut him down 945 00:55:05,636 --> 00:55:08,355 ♪ You see I heard screaming 946 00:55:09,473 --> 00:55:12,067 ♪ Bullwhips they were cracking 947 00:55:12,226 --> 00:55:16,652 ♪ How long? Oh, how long? 948 00:55:16,814 --> 00:55:18,441 ♪ Can you tell me? 949 00:55:18,607 --> 00:55:22,862 ♪ Oh, southern man keep your head 950 00:55:23,028 --> 00:55:28,535 We did everything possible, and it just didn't take. 951 00:55:30,410 --> 00:55:32,208 [JONES] The industry, it was controlled. 952 00:55:32,371 --> 00:55:35,045 There were rules. She was a gospel singer. 953 00:55:35,207 --> 00:55:37,005 There's only one Aretha. 954 00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:39,465 You know, and that's the way they felt in those days. 955 00:55:39,628 --> 00:55:42,131 It could only be Aretha. Only could be Diana Ross. 956 00:55:42,297 --> 00:55:43,970 ♪ Good book said 957 00:55:44,132 --> 00:55:48,057 ♪ Well, you can't forget what your 958 00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:50,473 - ♪ Good book said - ♪ Oh 959 00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:52,767 Yes, I became frustrated at one time, 960 00:55:52,933 --> 00:55:55,937 said, "Damn, the record didn't go any further than this? 961 00:55:56,103 --> 00:55:57,229 What're we doing wrong?" 962 00:55:59,982 --> 00:56:06,410 I felt like if I just gave my heart to what I was doing, 963 00:56:06,572 --> 00:56:09,496 I would automatically be a star. 964 00:56:09,658 --> 00:56:13,083 ♪ Southern man ♪ 965 00:56:20,502 --> 00:56:24,348 I think what happens with the whole issue of background 966 00:56:24,506 --> 00:56:27,931 versus lead singing is, you know, 967 00:56:28,093 --> 00:56:29,891 the material that you're given 968 00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:33,648 and how you work with producers. 969 00:56:33,807 --> 00:56:36,606 [VOCALIZING] 970 00:56:43,108 --> 00:56:46,988 In the mid '70s, Darlene Love is finally freed 971 00:56:47,154 --> 00:56:48,997 from her contract with Phil Spector. 972 00:56:49,156 --> 00:56:50,874 I had signed with Gamble and Huff. 973 00:56:51,033 --> 00:56:53,536 Who were, at that time, the hottest thing out there. 974 00:56:53,702 --> 00:56:56,876 And I say, "OK, here's my career. It's gonna really go now." 975 00:56:57,039 --> 00:56:59,883 And, uh, there was another door I ran into. 976 00:57:02,878 --> 00:57:07,679 [ZANES] Within weeks, they sell her contract back to Phil Spector 977 00:57:07,841 --> 00:57:09,809 and the nightmare continues. 978 00:57:12,220 --> 00:57:13,660 [LOVE] This was the new Phil Spector. 979 00:57:13,805 --> 00:57:17,059 He did the Beatles thing and, you know, he was a big star, 980 00:57:17,225 --> 00:57:20,024 so now he's gonna act like a big star in front of this little star, 981 00:57:20,187 --> 00:57:22,485 Darlene Love, and I wasn't having it. 982 00:57:23,732 --> 00:57:26,531 It got to be so bad, I just said, "You know what? 983 00:57:26,693 --> 00:57:28,536 I've had it." That's what I said to myself. 984 00:57:28,695 --> 00:57:31,369 Took the earphones off my ears, put 'em in the chain 985 00:57:31,531 --> 00:57:35,456 picked up my coat, put it on and walked out the studio. 986 00:57:35,619 --> 00:57:38,498 I didn't see Phil Spector no more for over 20 years. 987 00:57:40,707 --> 00:57:43,802 [SPRINGSTEEN] Many of these singers came out of the music business at a time 988 00:57:43,961 --> 00:57:48,182 when the singer depended on a songwriter, 989 00:57:48,340 --> 00:57:50,889 somebody who knew how to feature their voice, 990 00:57:51,051 --> 00:57:53,804 somebody who knew how to create a hit arrangement. 991 00:57:53,971 --> 00:57:56,520 Those are a lot of things to be dependent upon, you know. 992 00:57:56,682 --> 00:57:59,777 And I know so many people with incredible voices, 993 00:57:59,935 --> 00:58:04,315 but if you don't find someone who understands who you are, 994 00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:07,781 you can be a great singer and just not... and that... 995 00:58:07,943 --> 00:58:10,023 just not make that next step, you know. There's... 996 00:58:10,612 --> 00:58:12,660 I mean, the country's filled with them, you know. 997 00:58:12,823 --> 00:58:15,326 [♪ OTIS REDDING: "I'VE GOT DREAMS TO REMEMBER"] 998 00:58:21,123 --> 00:58:24,127 There's no guarantees in entertainment. 999 00:58:24,292 --> 00:58:26,090 There's no... no guarantees. 1000 00:58:30,924 --> 00:58:34,224 [LENNEAR] I had been offered the chance to go solo several times, 1001 00:58:34,386 --> 00:58:37,481 and then ultimately, I ended up with Warner Brothers. 1002 00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:40,108 The studio was smoking. 1003 00:58:40,267 --> 00:58:44,238 It was just... and it was just amazing. 1004 00:58:44,396 --> 00:58:47,650 It was just amazing and... 1005 00:58:47,816 --> 00:58:49,489 [MAN] And how was the record received? 1006 00:58:50,902 --> 00:58:53,030 Mm... not that well. 1007 00:58:59,828 --> 00:59:03,207 [MALE WATERS] If you are out there and your name is on that doggone marquee, 1008 00:59:03,373 --> 00:59:07,423 the pressure is on 'em, and sometimes that can... that can cause, uh, 1009 00:59:07,586 --> 00:59:09,384 problems in a person's life. 1010 00:59:19,473 --> 00:59:25,401 I had a contract as a solo artist and then I was kept on, but shelved. 1011 00:59:26,188 --> 00:59:30,785 So I was on Motown, but not. And it hasn't been easy. 1012 00:59:30,942 --> 00:59:33,821 You know, there's stuff that goes on with people. 1013 00:59:36,990 --> 00:59:41,996 [LENNEAR] I had a daughter to raise. I had a band to support. 1014 00:59:42,162 --> 00:59:44,210 I mean, it just got crazy. 1015 00:59:55,884 --> 00:59:57,602 [MIZELLE] The kind of feeling that you get 1016 00:59:57,761 --> 01:00:00,184 from people screaming in the audience, 1017 01:00:00,347 --> 01:00:05,478 if you're always looking for that in life, you're gonna crash. 1018 01:00:09,106 --> 01:00:11,859 [LENNEAR] The focus wasn't on music anymore. 1019 01:00:13,902 --> 01:00:16,997 I had to send my daughter to live with my brother and his kids, 1020 01:00:17,155 --> 01:00:20,659 while I was trying to scrape things together to pay the gas bill. 1021 01:00:26,873 --> 01:00:29,376 I remember her putting out a record, but then I looked up and then... 1022 01:00:29,543 --> 01:00:31,136 I didn't see Claudia anymore. 1023 01:00:32,420 --> 01:00:35,344 She said thank you and goodnight, that's what she said. 1024 01:00:38,844 --> 01:00:41,643 [VEGA] I thought people would be banging down my door for deals, 1025 01:00:41,805 --> 01:00:43,807 and it didn't happen like that. 1026 01:00:43,974 --> 01:00:46,397 "You're too fat. You're too old. 1027 01:00:48,145 --> 01:00:50,523 You know, you should seriously think about another career." 1028 01:00:55,443 --> 01:00:59,038 [VEGA] And after that, it's hell. 1029 01:01:02,951 --> 01:01:05,329 I think if I had "made" it, 1030 01:01:05,495 --> 01:01:08,214 like what the world... millions of dollars, all that, 1031 01:01:08,373 --> 01:01:12,048 I probably wouldn't be sitting in this chair talking to you right know, 1032 01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:14,212 'cause I would have OD'd somewhere. 1033 01:01:29,144 --> 01:01:32,364 [STING] It's not a level playing field. It never is a level playing field, 1034 01:01:32,522 --> 01:01:35,492 and you come into life understanding that. It's not about fairness. 1035 01:01:35,650 --> 01:01:37,869 It's not really about talent, you know. 1036 01:01:38,028 --> 01:01:42,283 It's... circumstance, it's luck. It's destiny. 1037 01:01:42,449 --> 01:01:47,831 I don't know what it is, but the best people deal with that. 1038 01:01:58,298 --> 01:02:01,677 [HILL] Working with Michael really did inspire me, 1039 01:02:01,843 --> 01:02:04,596 and saying like, "Wow, it's OK to dream this big. 1040 01:02:04,763 --> 01:02:06,765 It's OK to realize your dreams." 1041 01:02:06,932 --> 01:02:08,809 [♪ JUDITH HILL: "DESPERATION] 1042 01:02:08,975 --> 01:02:13,025 ♪ I still believe 1043 01:02:14,814 --> 01:02:18,694 ♪ Someday 1044 01:02:18,860 --> 01:02:21,033 ♪ You'll come around 1045 01:02:21,196 --> 01:02:24,200 [AUSTIN] She's representational of what's happening with background singers 1046 01:02:24,366 --> 01:02:27,336 at this point. I know she aspires to be a solo artist, though. 1047 01:02:27,494 --> 01:02:30,839 ♪ I pray 1048 01:02:30,997 --> 01:02:33,797 [MAN] This last tour, I heard from other friends that were with Michael 1049 01:02:33,875 --> 01:02:37,630 that he just loved her and, of course, she got the job. 1050 01:02:37,796 --> 01:02:41,266 You know, we were so excited for him and for us to be 1051 01:02:41,424 --> 01:02:43,472 able to do this show, and it was coming together. 1052 01:02:43,635 --> 01:02:46,935 I can't do that. But you're fine to do it. 1053 01:02:47,097 --> 01:02:48,599 I gotta save my voice. 1054 01:02:48,765 --> 01:02:50,813 ♪ I ain't going nowhere 1055 01:02:50,976 --> 01:02:52,353 ♪ 'Cause I... 1056 01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:54,959 [HILL] And then all of a sudden, we're on our way to rehearsal 1057 01:02:55,063 --> 01:02:56,656 and we get the news and it's like, 1058 01:02:56,815 --> 01:02:59,659 "You gotta be kidding me. Like, how's that even possible?" 1059 01:02:59,818 --> 01:03:01,786 ♪ We'll always be waiting 1060 01:03:01,945 --> 01:03:04,198 ♪ So somewhere in me 1061 01:03:04,364 --> 01:03:06,833 [HILL] It's such an overwhelming shock just to go from 1062 01:03:06,992 --> 01:03:09,165 almost on our way to this huge show, 1063 01:03:09,327 --> 01:03:11,000 to all of a sudden, he's gone. 1064 01:03:11,162 --> 01:03:14,757 ♪ You ♪ 1065 01:03:16,293 --> 01:03:18,546 I was crying throughout the service 1066 01:03:18,712 --> 01:03:22,182 and I wasn't really emotionally in a place to sing, 1067 01:03:22,340 --> 01:03:24,559 but, actually, it wasn't too unfamiliar to me, 1068 01:03:24,718 --> 01:03:27,346 because that kind of feeling and that reverence 1069 01:03:27,512 --> 01:03:29,810 reminded me a lot of church service, 1070 01:03:29,973 --> 01:03:31,850 so that's how I felt when I was there. 1071 01:03:32,017 --> 01:03:35,612 But, you know, I didn't really realize at the time 1072 01:03:35,770 --> 01:03:37,568 billions of people were watching it. 1073 01:03:37,731 --> 01:03:39,699 [ANNOUNCER] And a star is born. 1074 01:03:39,858 --> 01:03:41,280 ♪ We are the world 1075 01:03:41,443 --> 01:03:44,913 [WOMAN] Judith, thank you so much for joining us. Just 24 hours ago, 1076 01:03:45,071 --> 01:03:47,494 I think you were brought to the world's attention 1077 01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:50,001 by doing one of Michael's most famous songs ever. 1078 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,662 Well, what you saw... 1079 01:03:51,828 --> 01:03:55,002 [HILL] When you're a background singer, it is a springboard in the beginning, 1080 01:03:55,165 --> 01:03:59,215 but it can easily become quicksand if that's not what you wanna do. 1081 01:03:59,377 --> 01:04:01,471 Ever since the Michael Jackson experience, 1082 01:04:01,629 --> 01:04:04,428 I've turned down almost every background singing gig, 1083 01:04:04,591 --> 01:04:07,686 because I knew that if I kept doing it, 1084 01:04:07,844 --> 01:04:11,724 then becoming an artist would become more difficult. 1085 01:04:11,890 --> 01:04:13,650 [MAXWELL] I think the world needs to hear her 1086 01:04:13,767 --> 01:04:17,067 and I didn't want her to go the way of background singing. 1087 01:04:17,228 --> 01:04:21,483 I put together the girls for Elton to go on tour and they wanted Judith. 1088 01:04:21,649 --> 01:04:25,074 Elton loves Judith, but I think she had to make a decision, 1089 01:04:25,236 --> 01:04:26,909 "Do I really wanna be a solo artist?" 1090 01:04:27,072 --> 01:04:29,541 And she's trying to do it, because she writes songs. 1091 01:04:31,076 --> 01:04:34,171 [JOHN] We in the music industry, especially African American people, 1092 01:04:34,329 --> 01:04:37,048 need to know our worth. 1093 01:04:37,957 --> 01:04:41,757 We need to know, as women, we're important. 1094 01:04:43,171 --> 01:04:46,766 And I think the breakdown is 1095 01:04:46,925 --> 01:04:52,773 when a woman doesn't know who she is and she settle for less. 1096 01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:56,693 Check out your worth, 1097 01:04:56,851 --> 01:04:59,479 because you're worth more than that. 1098 01:05:02,774 --> 01:05:04,276 [LOVE] I couldn't sleep. 1099 01:05:04,442 --> 01:05:06,115 I was getting in such a depressed state, 1100 01:05:06,277 --> 01:05:07,878 I called my mother and father, asked them 1101 01:05:07,904 --> 01:05:10,282 if they would take care of my kids. 1102 01:05:10,448 --> 01:05:13,873 And the most enjoyment I got back in those days was singing in church. 1103 01:05:14,035 --> 01:05:18,040 That's the only place that I was actually singing during those times. 1104 01:05:18,206 --> 01:05:21,585 Only thing I thought I could do and make a little money to survive, 1105 01:05:21,751 --> 01:05:24,254 you know, I started cleaning houses. 1106 01:05:24,421 --> 01:05:27,220 [WOMAN VOCALIZING] 1107 01:05:27,382 --> 01:05:29,885 [LOVE] Not the great Darlene Love. She's not doing... cleaning houses. 1108 01:05:30,051 --> 01:05:33,351 I said, "Yes, the great Darlene Love is. She is cleaning houses. " 1109 01:05:35,682 --> 01:05:40,188 One particular Christmas, I was cleaning this lady's bathroom. 1110 01:05:40,353 --> 01:05:45,484 [♪ "CHRISTMAS (BABY PLEASE COME HOME)"] 1111 01:05:45,650 --> 01:05:48,824 [LOVE] And "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)", 1112 01:05:48,987 --> 01:05:51,115 my Christmas record, 1113 01:05:51,281 --> 01:05:54,535 came on the radio while I was cleaning this bathroom. 1114 01:05:59,539 --> 01:06:02,588 And I just looked up and just said, "OK, all right, Darlene, 1115 01:06:02,750 --> 01:06:06,425 this is not where you're supposed to be. You're supposed to be singing. 1116 01:06:06,588 --> 01:06:10,764 There's a whole world out there who wants to hear you sing." 1117 01:06:15,346 --> 01:06:20,147 [LOVE] And then the move from California to New York, my career just took off. 1118 01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:27,741 Nice to have you here. Everything OK with you? 1119 01:06:27,859 --> 01:06:29,452 - Wonderful. - Thanks for being here. 1120 01:06:29,611 --> 01:06:30,908 - Come and sing it next year. - Of course. 1121 01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:32,572 [LETTERMAN] I hope you have a good holiday. 1122 01:06:32,739 --> 01:06:35,413 [LOVE] I have to plan what I'm going to do. I have to take a little job. 1123 01:06:35,575 --> 01:06:36,997 The bastards got my daughter. 1124 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,913 Just so you can keep your name out there. 1125 01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:42,707 But if I didn't do those jobs, then nobody would really know 1126 01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:44,968 who Darlene Love was. 1127 01:06:46,336 --> 01:06:49,431 [JONES] As a young person, I thought everybody could sing. 1128 01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:51,887 When you start getting older, then you realize, 1129 01:06:52,050 --> 01:06:55,224 everyone is not the same, that these are gifts, 1130 01:06:55,386 --> 01:06:59,482 and you have to share and go out into the world. 1131 01:07:10,735 --> 01:07:12,453 [FISCHER] Whoo! 1132 01:07:12,612 --> 01:07:16,082 Oh, my girlfriend and I took these. 1133 01:07:16,241 --> 01:07:19,336 It was supposed to be closed. You see the zipper is broken. 1134 01:07:19,494 --> 01:07:24,876 [LAUGHS] I swear it was closed. It started out closed. 1135 01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:30,093 Here, yes. It's my Grammy. 1136 01:07:30,255 --> 01:07:33,350 I just kinda keep 'em here. I don't know what to do with it. 1137 01:07:33,508 --> 01:07:35,931 [LAUGHS] I don't know what to do with it. 1138 01:07:36,094 --> 01:07:37,687 - You're looking fantastic. - Thank you. 1139 01:07:37,845 --> 01:07:38,971 - I've gotta tell this story. - OK. 1140 01:07:39,138 --> 01:07:41,812 The first time I met you, I met Lisa, 1141 01:07:41,975 --> 01:07:43,735 was you were singing background on my record. 1142 01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:45,861 - Yes... - "I Know How To Make You," right. 1143 01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:49,194 ♪ I know how to make you love me, baby 1144 01:07:49,357 --> 01:07:51,610 That's right, that's right. And I have to tell you, 1145 01:07:51,776 --> 01:07:55,747 I mean, everyone in the industry knows Lisa Fischer. 1146 01:07:55,905 --> 01:07:59,125 [FISCHER] I wasn't deep in search of a record deal. 1147 01:07:59,284 --> 01:08:03,255 It was just one of those things that just blossomed, 1148 01:08:03,413 --> 01:08:05,882 you know, and I was really fortunate. 1149 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,795 ♪ How can I 1150 01:08:09,961 --> 01:08:12,714 ♪ Ooh 1151 01:08:21,264 --> 01:08:25,144 I just... I think she is a freak of nature 1152 01:08:25,310 --> 01:08:28,314 that I've never seen before. 1153 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,358 [VOCALIZING] 1154 01:08:31,524 --> 01:08:36,075 - ♪ How can I ease - [VOCALIZING] 1155 01:08:36,237 --> 01:08:40,868 And the Grammy goes to... Lisa Fischer, "How Can I Ease the Pain?" 1156 01:08:41,034 --> 01:08:46,040 - ♪ How can I ease - ♪ How can I ease the 1157 01:08:46,205 --> 01:08:49,550 ♪ Oh, pain, baby 1158 01:08:49,709 --> 01:08:52,462 I have to thank Luther Vandross. That's the first thing I have to do. 1159 01:08:52,629 --> 01:08:55,052 Without him, none of this would have been possible for me. 1160 01:08:55,214 --> 01:09:00,141 She has her own Grammy. She has her own recording contract with Elektra Records. 1161 01:09:00,303 --> 01:09:02,522 [VOCALIZING] 1162 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,648 It's different when you're singing background for someone, 1163 01:09:04,807 --> 01:09:06,935 you know, because you're so into making them happy, 1164 01:09:07,101 --> 01:09:08,853 making sure that they have what they need. 1165 01:09:09,020 --> 01:09:11,148 But then, once you're doing your own thing, 1166 01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:13,634 it's like you have to try to understand what it is you need 1167 01:09:13,691 --> 01:09:15,910 and what's gonna make you happy. 1168 01:09:22,617 --> 01:09:25,712 [APPLAUSE] 1169 01:09:25,870 --> 01:09:29,249 [MAN] Give it up. Lisa Fischer. 1170 01:09:41,803 --> 01:09:44,477 [FISCHER] I was working on a second record and... 1171 01:09:45,765 --> 01:09:47,438 I don't know, it just took too long. 1172 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,853 It took too long, and there was this window, 1173 01:09:50,019 --> 01:09:51,362 and it just took too long. 1174 01:09:52,855 --> 01:09:57,577 I just don't think anyone knew what to do with me. 1175 01:09:58,319 --> 01:10:00,538 I don't think I knew what to do with me. 1176 01:10:00,697 --> 01:10:03,576 That's something I never really understood, 1177 01:10:03,741 --> 01:10:06,745 just the business part of it. 1178 01:10:08,538 --> 01:10:10,836 [AUSTIN] It takes a tremendous amount of energy 1179 01:10:10,998 --> 01:10:14,673 to be a solo artist and a tremendous amount of ego to want to do that. 1180 01:10:16,504 --> 01:10:19,303 And she's never had that kind of ego. 1181 01:10:21,342 --> 01:10:23,060 [ALEXANDER] I think there is a psychology behind it. 1182 01:10:23,219 --> 01:10:25,517 I think most background singers will agree 1183 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,229 that we're not really good self-promoters. 1184 01:10:28,391 --> 01:10:30,143 You know, the industry is for those who put themselves 1185 01:10:30,309 --> 01:10:32,277 on display and are willing to play the game, 1186 01:10:32,437 --> 01:10:34,439 and some people aren't. 1187 01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,154 [ZANES] In a strange way, the gulf between the lead singer 1188 01:10:40,319 --> 01:10:43,949 and that group of backup singers couldn't be wider. 1189 01:10:44,115 --> 01:10:46,743 You're going into a group format 1190 01:10:46,909 --> 01:10:50,038 where you sacrifice individuality 1191 01:10:50,204 --> 01:10:53,003 in order to arrive at that blend. 1192 01:10:53,166 --> 01:10:58,047 And the blend is something that's not just infectious for the listener. 1193 01:10:58,212 --> 01:11:02,934 It's... it's the transformative experience for the singer. 1194 01:11:03,092 --> 01:11:07,347 And some people just wanna stay there. 1195 01:11:08,931 --> 01:11:10,524 [STING] Real musicians, 1196 01:11:10,683 --> 01:11:12,777 there's a spiritual component to what they do. 1197 01:11:12,935 --> 01:11:15,859 It's got nothing to do with worldly success. 1198 01:11:16,022 --> 01:11:20,368 Their music is much more of an inner journey. 1199 01:11:20,526 --> 01:11:24,156 Any other success is just cream on the cake. 1200 01:11:24,322 --> 01:11:26,199 [VOCALIZING] 1201 01:11:26,365 --> 01:11:28,993 There's this idea that you can go on American Idol 1202 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,128 and suddenly become a star, 1203 01:11:31,287 --> 01:11:34,211 but you may bypass the spiritual work 1204 01:11:34,373 --> 01:11:36,375 that you have to do to get there, 1205 01:11:36,542 --> 01:11:40,968 and if you bypass that, then your success will be wafer thin. 1206 01:11:41,130 --> 01:11:44,555 [HARMONIZING VOCALS] 1207 01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:53,060 [JULIA WATERS] People lose the heart of a lot of it 1208 01:11:53,226 --> 01:11:55,695 because they haven't grown up with, you know, 1209 01:11:55,853 --> 01:11:58,606 having to go through that, what I call wood shedding, 1210 01:11:58,773 --> 01:12:01,868 having to really say, "OK, let me focus in on... 1211 01:12:02,026 --> 01:12:04,870 this is what we need to do." 1212 01:12:13,162 --> 01:12:14,630 [HARMONIZING ENDS] 1213 01:12:14,789 --> 01:12:16,791 There's a budget right now, in every... 1214 01:12:16,958 --> 01:12:19,381 every recording budget that says "for tuning." 1215 01:12:19,544 --> 01:12:22,718 And that's, you know, how many hours are allowed for tuning. 1216 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,100 And I said, "What's that?" "Oh, we have to tune all the vocals." 1217 01:12:26,259 --> 01:12:28,102 "Well, why don't they sing in tune?" 1218 01:12:28,261 --> 01:12:31,686 "Well, it just takes too much time and it's too hard." 1219 01:12:31,848 --> 01:12:34,146 And so they just sing and then they tune 'em all. 1220 01:12:34,308 --> 01:12:35,810 And that's ridiculous to me. 1221 01:12:35,977 --> 01:12:37,354 Please welcome Kylie Minogue. 1222 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,524 [CHEERING] 1223 01:12:40,690 --> 01:12:44,320 Well, good evening, everyone. How you feeling? 1224 01:12:44,485 --> 01:12:46,365 [HILL] Actually, I've gotten a lot of criticism. 1225 01:12:46,529 --> 01:12:48,748 I've done a couple of gigs I thought I would get, 1226 01:12:48,906 --> 01:12:51,534 just get away with, you know. And I even put a wig on. 1227 01:12:51,701 --> 01:12:54,580 I put, like, a straight-hair wig. Like, on this Jay Leno gig, 1228 01:12:54,745 --> 01:12:58,420 no one's gonna know it's me. And then I get these tweets from fans, like, 1229 01:12:58,583 --> 01:13:01,803 "How could you do this? You're singing in front of... behind her, 1230 01:13:01,961 --> 01:13:04,430 and, you know, you go from Michael to..." 1231 01:13:04,589 --> 01:13:07,593 And like just criticism, and I'm like, "How did you even know that was me?" 1232 01:13:07,758 --> 01:13:11,763 [LAUGHS] But I'm, like, right in the transitional stage here. 1233 01:13:11,929 --> 01:13:15,149 I am not at a position where I can turn down everything, 1234 01:13:15,308 --> 01:13:17,276 because all of these things as an artist 1235 01:13:17,435 --> 01:13:20,154 are really expensive and my dreams are huge. 1236 01:13:20,313 --> 01:13:24,614 So I have been doing some background singing on the side. 1237 01:13:24,775 --> 01:13:25,992 [♪ STEVIE WONDER: "HOW SWEET IT IS"] 1238 01:13:26,152 --> 01:13:29,873 ♪ I want to stop and thank you with this now 1239 01:13:30,031 --> 01:13:35,162 ♪ How sweet it is to be loved by you 1240 01:13:35,328 --> 01:13:38,081 ♪ Oh, yes, it is, yeah 1241 01:13:38,247 --> 01:13:40,295 ♪ How sweet it is 1242 01:13:40,458 --> 01:13:43,837 [WONDER] With Judith, I knew that she had an incredible voice. 1243 01:13:44,003 --> 01:13:48,349 I know that she sang in church, and it was a really wonderful thing 1244 01:13:48,507 --> 01:13:51,181 when I heard her songs. 1245 01:13:51,344 --> 01:13:54,689 I said, "You're gonna do something." 1246 01:13:54,847 --> 01:14:00,149 ♪ How sweet it is to be loved by you 1247 01:14:02,730 --> 01:14:05,859 [HILL] Stevie is very excited about me as an artist as well. 1248 01:14:06,025 --> 01:14:08,619 He's really shown that. 1249 01:14:08,778 --> 01:14:11,782 But it's just an honor to just be able to... I don't really care. 1250 01:14:11,948 --> 01:14:14,827 I mean, I just love singing with him regardless, you know. 1251 01:14:14,992 --> 01:14:16,994 [WONDER] As much as you're enjoying this, 1252 01:14:17,161 --> 01:14:21,337 don't let your dream disappear, 1253 01:14:21,499 --> 01:14:24,252 because you wanna be with me or be around me. 1254 01:14:24,418 --> 01:14:26,546 You gotta step out there and do your thing. 1255 01:14:26,712 --> 01:14:29,431 ♪ Sing, dah-dah-dah-dah-dah 1256 01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:31,433 [VOCALIZING] 1257 01:14:34,220 --> 01:14:35,563 [WONDER] People singing together 1258 01:14:35,721 --> 01:14:39,476 has always meant to me people coming together. 1259 01:14:39,642 --> 01:14:44,068 [MAXWELL] What moves people is the humanness of it, not the machine. 1260 01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:45,430 That's not the same as someone 1261 01:14:45,481 --> 01:14:47,801 singing and playing to you and putting their heart into it. 1262 01:14:47,817 --> 01:14:50,991 And great background singers, you know, it's moving. 1263 01:14:53,698 --> 01:14:55,738 [AUSTIN] For a long time, I'd say a good five years, 1264 01:14:55,783 --> 01:14:57,660 you couldn't hear a background on a record. 1265 01:14:57,827 --> 01:14:59,921 You wouldn't hear anybody doing a hum or an "ooh" 1266 01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:03,925 or a "la" or... or an answer line or anything. 1267 01:15:04,083 --> 01:15:05,835 Nothin'. 1268 01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:09,381 [VOCALIZING] 1269 01:15:09,547 --> 01:15:12,391 [WOMAN] There's not as much work for background singers, 1270 01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:14,769 because different ones have called me over the years 1271 01:15:14,927 --> 01:15:16,850 and just asked me, "Are you working? 1272 01:15:17,013 --> 01:15:20,017 'Cause my phone hasn't been ringing." 1273 01:15:20,182 --> 01:15:22,355 [VOCALIZING] 1274 01:15:26,772 --> 01:15:30,197 A lot of home studios, people have their families singing, 1275 01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:31,799 doing all the vocal parts themselves. 1276 01:15:31,944 --> 01:15:35,244 It's just put a lot of singers out of work. 1277 01:15:35,406 --> 01:15:39,081 [HARMONIZING VOCALS] 1278 01:15:49,128 --> 01:15:50,408 [BOTTI] When you get to the '90s, 1279 01:15:50,504 --> 01:15:53,553 you're starting to see major structural changes. 1280 01:15:53,716 --> 01:15:57,516 The big recording sessions associated with the '70s and the '80s, 1281 01:15:57,678 --> 01:15:59,521 they're not happening anymore. 1282 01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:05,816 [JONES] People didn't want to pay the background singer, 1283 01:16:05,978 --> 01:16:07,418 'cause they don't think they need it. 1284 01:16:07,438 --> 01:16:09,118 They were saying, "Hey, we don't have to... 1285 01:16:09,273 --> 01:16:10,673 We don't have to write that check," 1286 01:16:10,816 --> 01:16:13,365 not realizing that was the sound. 1287 01:16:13,527 --> 01:16:17,748 And that's why Joe Cocker and The Stones and Rod Stewart, 1288 01:16:17,907 --> 01:16:22,037 David and all of these wonderful people, they have their singers there. 1289 01:16:22,203 --> 01:16:25,377 They need those background singers. 1290 01:16:30,211 --> 01:16:32,885 [LASLEY] You do tend to wonder, is there a cutoff point 1291 01:16:33,047 --> 01:16:37,678 or is there a way to leave this occupation or this life 1292 01:16:37,843 --> 01:16:39,811 without dying of heartbreak or, you know, or just, 1293 01:16:39,970 --> 01:16:43,645 is it the biggest jones of all? 1294 01:16:45,684 --> 01:16:49,780 You get hooked on music, you are fucked, you know. 1295 01:16:49,939 --> 01:16:54,945 [SOFT STATIC SOUND FROM MICROPHONE] 1296 01:16:57,071 --> 01:17:00,701 When you get into a relationship, you know, there's an energy. 1297 01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:07,632 It's like when you see a married couple walking into a room. 1298 01:17:08,791 --> 01:17:13,262 You see them part, but you still feel that string that binds them. 1299 01:17:13,420 --> 01:17:17,470 I never really had that. 1300 01:17:19,718 --> 01:17:23,564 So I always felt like I belonged to everyone, you know, 1301 01:17:23,722 --> 01:17:25,816 a part of my heart, 1302 01:17:25,975 --> 01:17:28,444 a part of who I am belongs to everybody. 1303 01:17:28,602 --> 01:17:31,321 So, I mean, sometimes when I, you know, 1304 01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:33,699 talk to my friends who have children or who are married, 1305 01:17:33,858 --> 01:17:36,236 I think to myself, 1306 01:17:36,402 --> 01:17:40,373 "Hmm, maybe I should've gotten married and had some kids 1307 01:17:40,531 --> 01:17:45,253 and done all that kinda thing." But... I'm good. 1308 01:17:45,411 --> 01:17:49,291 [LAUGHS] I am so good. 1309 01:17:54,962 --> 01:17:57,841 [BOTTI] Lisa is so incredibly versatile, 1310 01:17:58,007 --> 01:18:01,682 then you almost, you're so talented, you almost get like option anxiety. 1311 01:18:01,844 --> 01:18:03,972 Well, what do I do? Should I stay with the R&B thing? 1312 01:18:04,138 --> 01:18:06,015 Well, R&B was so big at the time. 1313 01:18:06,182 --> 01:18:08,401 Then you're up against Whitney and Mariah and blah and blah and blah. 1314 01:18:08,559 --> 01:18:10,919 Then, maybe I should do a little bit more of the rock thing. 1315 01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:14,194 And her phone rings and it's Mick Jagger and he says, "Join The Stones," 1316 01:18:14,356 --> 01:18:18,406 and that's a hard thing to, you know, to turn away from, you know. 1317 01:18:18,569 --> 01:18:20,037 That's a... [LAUGHS] 1318 01:18:20,196 --> 01:18:21,596 [♪ ROLLING STONES: "GIMME SHELTER"] 1319 01:18:21,739 --> 01:18:25,585 ♪ Rape, murder 1320 01:18:25,743 --> 01:18:29,964 ♪ It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 1321 01:18:30,122 --> 01:18:32,045 ♪ Rape... 1322 01:18:32,208 --> 01:18:34,586 [JAGGER] It's great to have the female voice, you know, 1323 01:18:34,752 --> 01:18:37,926 otherwise it's me, me, me, me and me and then it's a bit of Keith and... 1324 01:18:38,088 --> 01:18:42,264 But still, you know, it's still the same kind of masculinity. 1325 01:18:42,426 --> 01:18:45,851 And then when you can get someone like Lisa to step out 1326 01:18:46,013 --> 01:18:48,232 and you've got a whole new voice out there. 1327 01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:51,485 [VOCALIZING] 1328 01:18:57,274 --> 01:18:58,901 [FISCHER] It's like, I could hear how Mick was singing it 1329 01:18:59,068 --> 01:19:02,572 and I, you know, react to him a certain way. 1330 01:19:02,738 --> 01:19:05,332 ♪ My very life today 1331 01:19:05,491 --> 01:19:08,995 Like nobody else was in the room. It was freeing in a weird way. 1332 01:19:09,161 --> 01:19:10,788 ♪ Gimme shelter 1333 01:19:10,955 --> 01:19:15,085 ♪ Or I'm gonna fade away 1334 01:19:15,251 --> 01:19:17,299 [AUSTIN] Why isn't she promoting herself 1335 01:19:17,461 --> 01:19:19,259 and why is she out with The Rolling Stones all the time? 1336 01:19:19,421 --> 01:19:21,219 It's because she's comfortable doing that. 1337 01:19:21,382 --> 01:19:23,680 She loves doing it and she's got it all to herself. 1338 01:19:23,842 --> 01:19:24,843 She's not stupid. 1339 01:19:25,010 --> 01:19:28,184 ♪ It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 1340 01:19:28,889 --> 01:19:32,564 ♪ It's just a shot away Shot away, shot away 1341 01:19:32,726 --> 01:19:36,276 I wanna be able to walk the streets and not have to worry about, you know, 1342 01:19:36,438 --> 01:19:38,691 putting on sunglasses and hiding out and, you know, 1343 01:19:38,857 --> 01:19:41,736 the tits up in the air and, you know... I just... I... 1344 01:19:41,902 --> 01:19:46,157 I'm just... I'm not feeling that. I'm just not feeling that. 1345 01:19:46,323 --> 01:19:50,499 ♪ It's just a kiss away It's just a kiss away 1346 01:19:50,661 --> 01:19:54,711 ♪ Kiss away, kiss away Kiss away 1347 01:19:54,873 --> 01:19:58,673 [FISCHER] Some people will do anything to be famous, 1348 01:19:58,836 --> 01:20:03,012 and then there are other people who just will sing. 1349 01:20:03,173 --> 01:20:08,600 It's not about anything except being in this special space 1350 01:20:08,762 --> 01:20:13,984 with people, and that is really the higher calling to me. 1351 01:20:14,143 --> 01:20:17,238 [CROWD CHEERING] 1352 01:20:19,773 --> 01:20:22,652 [SOFT PIANO MUSIC] 1353 01:20:35,289 --> 01:20:38,589 [CLAYTON] Seemingly, every time I get ready to do something really big, 1354 01:20:38,751 --> 01:20:41,755 or something really, really wonderful, something would just happen 1355 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,469 that would just knock me to my knees, you know. 1356 01:20:45,924 --> 01:20:48,473 You don't want everybody to know you got this at Pick 'n Save. 1357 01:20:48,635 --> 01:20:49,682 Ha! 1358 01:20:49,845 --> 01:20:51,597 I said, "God, what is this? 1359 01:20:51,764 --> 01:20:55,109 Am I not supposed to be doing this? If I'm not supposed to be doing this, 1360 01:20:55,267 --> 01:20:57,520 then show me I'm not supposed to be doing this, 1361 01:20:57,686 --> 01:21:00,189 and I won't do it, you know." But I never was shown. 1362 01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:03,826 - [ALL] Amen. - Praise the Lord. 1363 01:21:05,694 --> 01:21:08,163 And I just stay cool, stay humble, 1364 01:21:08,322 --> 01:21:10,871 stay beautiful and just do the work. 1365 01:21:11,033 --> 01:21:13,536 [CLAYTON] Thank you. Thank you so much. 1366 01:21:13,827 --> 01:21:17,707 [BOTTI] If somebody says, "You're gonna become an international superstar, " 1367 01:21:17,873 --> 01:21:20,001 of course everyone would spend the money and do that. 1368 01:21:20,167 --> 01:21:22,761 But if you're living in a little place and you have no money 1369 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,640 and you got a little bit saved and they say, 1370 01:21:24,755 --> 01:21:26,348 "You gotta risk all of that 1371 01:21:26,507 --> 01:21:28,851 and you still might be working McDonald's tomorrow," 1372 01:21:29,009 --> 01:21:34,357 I think you gotta be absolutely crazy to go after it like that, yeah. 1373 01:21:34,515 --> 01:21:37,143 [SOFT PIANO MUSIC] 1374 01:21:47,319 --> 01:21:49,071 [LENNEAR] It was just... 1375 01:21:49,238 --> 01:21:52,993 I came to a fork in the road and music wasn't on it. 1376 01:21:53,158 --> 01:21:56,628 [SPEAKING SPANISH] 1377 01:21:56,787 --> 01:22:00,382 Meaning, "I'm sorry, I'm very sorry, or..." 1378 01:22:00,541 --> 01:22:05,718 [LENNEAR] I've been teaching Spanish for ten to 15 years. 1379 01:22:05,879 --> 01:22:09,725 ♪ Maybe you're where you're supposed to be 1380 01:22:12,261 --> 01:22:15,811 ♪ Safely kept within the crowd 1381 01:22:15,973 --> 01:22:18,101 [LENNEAR] It's always been a missing link. 1382 01:22:18,267 --> 01:22:22,147 ♪ You're looking for a reason to break free 1383 01:22:22,312 --> 01:22:27,910 It's been a regret that I didn't just hang in there, 1384 01:22:28,068 --> 01:22:32,244 especially when I see my contemporaries progressing in their musical lives. 1385 01:22:32,406 --> 01:22:35,580 ♪ Try to let it out 1386 01:22:37,578 --> 01:22:39,672 ♪ So much worse 1387 01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:42,549 [LENNEAR] I never said it wasn't for me, never. 1388 01:22:42,708 --> 01:22:47,839 If I did, I was lying to myself. It's always been for me, always. 1389 01:22:48,005 --> 01:22:53,102 Just do it. Maybe that's one way to get rid of that gnawing once and for all. 1390 01:22:53,260 --> 01:22:55,558 ♪ Oh, chance 1391 01:22:55,721 --> 01:22:58,395 ♪ We all need We all need, we all need 1392 01:22:58,557 --> 01:23:02,312 ♪ We all need a little desperation 1393 01:23:03,187 --> 01:23:08,284 Let's have a warm, warm welcome for Miss Judith Hill. 1394 01:23:08,442 --> 01:23:10,285 - [CHEERING] - ♪ Do you want, do you want 1395 01:23:10,444 --> 01:23:11,445 ♪ Do you want 1396 01:23:11,612 --> 01:23:15,207 ♪ Do you want a little inspiration? 1397 01:23:15,365 --> 01:23:17,618 ♪ 'Cause every wound Every wound, every wound 1398 01:23:17,784 --> 01:23:21,254 ♪ Really needs a little desperation 1399 01:23:21,413 --> 01:23:24,542 There's machines that make people stars that don't have talent. 1400 01:23:24,708 --> 01:23:28,429 They don't really sing live. Someone could have done that for Judith, 1401 01:23:28,587 --> 01:23:31,056 but I think what she has is deeper, 1402 01:23:31,215 --> 01:23:34,890 and maybe selling 500 million records is not the best thing for her. 1403 01:23:35,052 --> 01:23:39,558 ♪ Let it out 1404 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:47,357 ♪ So much worse if you don't try now 1405 01:23:47,523 --> 01:23:50,948 It's more than just leaning on your talent. You gotta be disciplined. 1406 01:23:51,109 --> 01:23:52,656 Gotta get up in the morning. You gotta go do it. 1407 01:23:52,819 --> 01:23:54,662 ♪ Take a chance 1408 01:23:54,821 --> 01:23:56,744 ♪ Take a chance... 1409 01:23:56,907 --> 01:23:59,877 Opportunity's knocking. Open the door. Get going, kiddo. 1410 01:24:00,035 --> 01:24:03,130 ♪ We all need, we all need We all need 1411 01:24:03,288 --> 01:24:06,588 ♪ A little desperation 1412 01:24:06,750 --> 01:24:09,219 ♪ Can I have, can I have Can I have 1413 01:24:09,378 --> 01:24:11,597 [WONDER] In these times that we're living in right now, 1414 01:24:11,755 --> 01:24:13,928 a lot of it is based on so many other things 1415 01:24:14,091 --> 01:24:16,059 that have nothing to do with music. 1416 01:24:16,218 --> 01:24:19,062 ♪ Do you want a little inspiration? 1417 01:24:19,221 --> 01:24:22,145 [WONDER] But, you know, at the end of the day, it's up to you 1418 01:24:22,307 --> 01:24:24,309 to perfect that gift that you've been given. 1419 01:24:24,476 --> 01:24:27,275 Put your spirit into that song. 1420 01:24:27,437 --> 01:24:29,940 Focus on the words that you're singing. 1421 01:24:30,107 --> 01:24:33,486 Get into the experience of what you're singing about 1422 01:24:33,652 --> 01:24:35,450 and sing your heart out. 1423 01:24:35,612 --> 01:24:40,994 ♪ A little desperation ♪ 1424 01:24:41,159 --> 01:24:43,457 [LOVE] Every time you get up, you might fall down, 1425 01:24:43,620 --> 01:24:45,543 but you gotta get back up again, you know, 1426 01:24:45,706 --> 01:24:48,801 and believe me when I tell you, it's not easy, especially at my age. 1427 01:24:48,959 --> 01:24:52,179 I didn't start my solo career till I was 40. 1428 01:24:52,337 --> 01:24:55,341 Tonight marks the 25th anniversary 1429 01:24:55,507 --> 01:24:57,635 of a favorite holiday tradition here at The Late Show. 1430 01:24:57,801 --> 01:24:59,303 Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome 1431 01:24:59,469 --> 01:25:01,972 the remarkable Darlene Love. 1432 01:25:02,139 --> 01:25:04,892 - [PIANO MUSIC PLAYING] - [INAUDIBLE SINGING] 1433 01:25:09,646 --> 01:25:11,648 [♪ DARLENE LOVE: "LEAN ON ME"] 1434 01:25:11,815 --> 01:25:16,912 ♪ Sometimes in our lives 1435 01:25:17,070 --> 01:25:20,995 ♪ We all have pain 1436 01:25:21,158 --> 01:25:26,710 ♪ We all have sorrow 1437 01:25:26,872 --> 01:25:31,878 ♪ But if we are wise 1438 01:25:32,044 --> 01:25:35,514 ♪ We know that there's 1439 01:25:35,672 --> 01:25:39,393 ♪ Always tomorrow 1440 01:25:39,551 --> 01:25:42,930 - ♪ Lean on me - ♪ Lean on me 1441 01:25:43,096 --> 01:25:46,350 ♪ When you're not strong 1442 01:25:46,516 --> 01:25:49,986 ♪ And I'll be your friend 1443 01:25:50,145 --> 01:25:54,821 ♪ I'll help you carry on 1444 01:25:54,983 --> 01:25:57,077 [MIDLER] And now it is my honor and pleasure 1445 01:25:57,235 --> 01:25:59,738 to induct into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 1446 01:25:59,905 --> 01:26:03,580 and about time too, Miss Darlene Love. 1447 01:26:03,742 --> 01:26:10,500 - [APPLAUSE] - ♪ Somebody to lean on 1448 01:26:10,666 --> 01:26:15,137 ♪ Please follow your pride 1449 01:26:15,295 --> 01:26:17,548 [LOVE] Thank you, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 1450 01:26:17,714 --> 01:26:21,719 I am truly honored and overwhelmed. 1451 01:26:21,885 --> 01:26:24,684 ♪ Tomorrow 1452 01:26:24,846 --> 01:26:28,066 [WOMAN] So many of us, Merry Clayton, the Waters, 1453 01:26:28,225 --> 01:26:30,023 we stand on her shoulders. 1454 01:26:31,144 --> 01:26:32,612 [LOVE] My mother told this one lady, 1455 01:26:32,771 --> 01:26:35,194 "Oh, my daughter's in New York now. She's on Broadway. 1456 01:26:35,357 --> 01:26:38,952 And they go, "What daughter?" Said, "The one that used to clean your house." 1457 01:26:39,695 --> 01:26:41,789 - ♪ Lean on me - ♪ Lean on me 1458 01:26:41,947 --> 01:26:45,042 - ♪ When you're not strong - ♪ Lean on me 1459 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,579 ♪ And I'll be your friend 1460 01:26:48,745 --> 01:26:54,468 ♪ I'll help you carry on 1461 01:26:54,626 --> 01:26:56,173 - ♪ For - ♪ Lean on me 1462 01:26:56,336 --> 01:26:59,715 - ♪ It won't be long - ♪ Lean on me 1463 01:26:59,881 --> 01:27:02,851 ♪ Till I'm gonna need 1464 01:27:03,009 --> 01:27:07,515 ♪ Somebody to lean on 1465 01:27:09,349 --> 01:27:11,772 [ALEXANDER] I've seen artists come and go, 1466 01:27:11,935 --> 01:27:15,565 and I look around on stage and it's the same players. 1467 01:27:15,731 --> 01:27:18,655 They're in the game, or they've stayed in the game 1468 01:27:18,817 --> 01:27:21,366 and they're legends and they're amazing. 1469 01:27:21,528 --> 01:27:24,372 ♪ Lean on me 1470 01:27:24,531 --> 01:27:27,751 - ♪ When you're not strong - ♪ When you're not strong 1471 01:27:27,909 --> 01:27:31,755 - ♪ I'll be your friend - ♪ I'll be your friend 1472 01:27:31,913 --> 01:27:37,090 - ♪ I'll help you carry on - ♪ Yes, I will 1473 01:27:37,252 --> 01:27:41,177 [VEGA] Singing background, it helped me find me. 1474 01:27:41,339 --> 01:27:45,344 It got back to the love of music. 1475 01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:50,812 ♪ Somebody to lean 1476 01:27:50,974 --> 01:27:53,853 - ♪ Lean on me - ♪ Lean on me 1477 01:27:54,019 --> 01:27:57,319 - ♪ When you're not strong - ♪ When you're not strong 1478 01:27:57,481 --> 01:28:00,906 - ♪ I'll be your friend - ♪ And I'll be your friend 1479 01:28:01,067 --> 01:28:06,540 - ♪ I'll help you carry on - ♪ Yes, I will, yes, I will 1480 01:28:06,698 --> 01:28:11,374 - ♪ For it won't be long - ♪ It won't be long 1481 01:28:11,536 --> 01:28:13,630 ♪ Till I'm gonna need 1482 01:28:13,789 --> 01:28:16,212 [JOHN] We have a gift. We can hear a song 1483 01:28:16,374 --> 01:28:18,468 and find our part and harmonize with it. 1484 01:28:18,627 --> 01:28:20,345 Children on the corner's doing it. 1485 01:28:20,504 --> 01:28:23,758 Little babies do it when they learn to sing. 1486 01:28:23,924 --> 01:28:26,973 - [VOCALIZING] - It's the gift coming out. 1487 01:28:27,135 --> 01:28:31,185 Now, what you do with the gift is you. 1488 01:28:31,348 --> 01:28:35,023 - [CHEERING, APPLAUSE] - [LOVE] Like the old days. 1489 01:28:35,185 --> 01:28:38,405 OK, next session. 1490 01:28:39,022 --> 01:28:40,023 [♪ DARLENE LOVE: "A FINE, FINE BOY"] 1491 01:28:40,190 --> 01:28:41,191 [LOVE] My boy! 1492 01:28:41,358 --> 01:28:43,201 [MUSIC PLAYS] 1493 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,454 I've got so much love in my heart for him, 1494 01:28:45,612 --> 01:28:48,866 and I just don't feel like me when he's not around. 1495 01:28:49,032 --> 01:28:52,002 Yeah, there are boys and there are boys, 1496 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,505 - but he's a... - ♪ Fine, fine boy 1497 01:28:55,664 --> 01:28:58,884 ♪ I wanna tell the world about the boy I love 1498 01:28:59,042 --> 01:29:01,966 ♪ Just the kind of guy I've been dreaming of 1499 01:29:02,128 --> 01:29:05,177 ♪ He's so sincere When he holds me tight 1500 01:29:05,340 --> 01:29:09,766 ♪ When I'm blue He makes me feel all right 1501 01:29:11,972 --> 01:29:15,351 ♪ He even takes me places and buys me things 1502 01:29:15,517 --> 01:29:18,487 ♪ But love is more important than a diamond ring 1503 01:29:18,645 --> 01:29:21,899 ♪ All I wanna do is stay by his side 1504 01:29:22,065 --> 01:29:26,741 ♪ Take care of him and I'll be satisfied 1505 01:29:26,903 --> 01:29:29,702 ♪ 'Cause he's got a sweet, sweet kiss 1506 01:29:29,865 --> 01:29:31,833 ♪ And a true, true heart 1507 01:29:31,992 --> 01:29:34,916 ♪ Something tells me that we'll never part 1508 01:29:35,078 --> 01:29:37,957 ♪ He's got a sweet, sweet kiss and a true, true heart 1509 01:29:38,123 --> 01:29:40,467 ♪ And he's fine, fine, fine 1510 01:29:40,625 --> 01:29:43,595 ♪ No, he's fine, fine, fine 1511 01:29:43,753 --> 01:29:47,257 ♪ Let me tell you He's a fine, fine boy 1512 01:29:50,427 --> 01:29:53,647 - ♪ Yeah - ♪ Fine, fine boy 1513 01:29:53,805 --> 01:29:57,605 ♪ I know he's fine And he's mine 1514 01:29:57,767 --> 01:30:02,113 - ♪ He's a fine, fine boy - ♪ Yeah, he's mine 1515 01:30:02,272 --> 01:30:06,197 - ♪ He's fine - ♪ He's a fine, fine boy 1516 01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:08,987 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 1517 01:30:09,154 --> 01:30:16,709 ♪ He's mine He's a fine, fine boy ♪ 1518 01:30:24,586 --> 01:30:27,965 - Whoo! - [CROWD CHEERING] 1519 01:30:28,131 --> 01:30:30,475 [SPRINGSTEEN] Darlene Love!130668

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