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This programme contains
strong language from the start.
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What do you know about the World Cup
in '66?
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Well, you all know that England
won it.
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We stuck four past the Germans,
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with Geoff Hurst
scoring a hat-trick.
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And what about the trophy?
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At some point, you must have seen
the Queen, God rest her soul,
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handing it to Bobby Moore.
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Maybe you know the cup have been
nicked a few months before.
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You might even heard
it was found by a dog.
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But if you think that's
the full story,
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you don't know the half of it.
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It just really is quintessentially
an English crime story.
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You're entrusted to look
after the world-famous trophy
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and you've lost it!
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So many stories about what happened
are absolute crap!
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Behind the scenes, there's a lot
more the general public don't see.
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And my dad looked at him
and he went,
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"What the fucking hell do you think
we're going to do with that?"
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# Well, a young man ain't got
nothin' in the world these days... #
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The story of who stole the World Cup
begins with the story
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of the man guarding the World Cup.
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# I said a young man...#
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I was 20 years old,
I was a struggling actor.
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I was in Monty Python,
which is my claim to fame.
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Ring head office, would you, Norman?
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Shall I go through Maintenance?
No, you'd better go through...
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It wasn't any of these guys, though.
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Here he is. This is John.
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In '66,
John was having a great old time.
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He's English, by the way,
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he's just spent too long in Canada.
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I was living in London.
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I shared an apartment
in Knightsbridge with my friend.
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He was a musician.
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Everybody used to come in there.
It was crazy.
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I remember one night, sitting there,
and I opened the door
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and there's Keith Moon of The Who
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standing there in a spacesuit.
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And he had a star on his forehead.
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He was a total nutcase.
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John's acting career
wasn't exactly taking off.
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So to fund his nights out,
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he'd do security across the city.
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Like these fellas.
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They were always looking for people.
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You wore a nice uniform,
did your security work,
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made a few bucks and get drunk
and get happy.
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That was what life was like
in those days.
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In March, he had a gig guarding
the Jules Rimet Trophy.
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The World Cup.
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Which was on display
at a stamp exhibition.
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Yeah, you heard that right.
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The Jules Rimet Trophy was
in the Methodist Central Hall.
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Because there was a Stanley Gibbons
exhibition of stamps,
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and they had asked the FA
if they could use the trophy
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as an exhibit to attract people.
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The Penny Black stamps were worth
millions of pounds.
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Hugely valuable. And the cup is not
really worth very much.
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The security company that was
supposed to be in charge
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of looking after the trophy
was called Alsa-Guard.
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Their USP was that they had
Alsatian dogs
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as part of their security detail.
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Alsa-Guard Services,
whose motto is an alert Alsatian...
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But for some reason, they weren't
allowed to use any Alsatians
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in the Methodist Central Hall.
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I don't know, dogs were banned.
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Now, John, without his pooch,
had started there on the Friday.
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On the Sunday,
the exhibition was shut,
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but religious types
could still get into the church.
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This hall had hosted
suffragette rallies
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and speeches by the likes of
Winston Churchill.
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And it was about to stage
another historic event.
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24th March, 1966, I came into work.
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The actual job was to just
walk around the hall,
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downstairs, upstairs,
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check the doors were secure.
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It was very basic, very relaxed.
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One of the conditions was that
weekends, when the place was closed,
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this cup had to stay where it was,
on the plinth.
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Couldn't be put away in a safe.
Had to stay right there.
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I came in and the two old guys
who were already there,
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old-timers,
sitting there drinking their tea,
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talking about the last war.
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Anyway, so I reported to him
and he sent me downstairs
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to the Post Office's
Penny Black stamps.
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We wandered around this basement,
and finally, at about 12:00,
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I went upstairs and I asked these
guys, "Do you mind if we swap over?"
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So I came out to do my inspection
of the hall.
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So I went across
to where the cup was,
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and lo and behold, it wasn't there.
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It was gone.
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Empty plinth.
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# No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. #
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I started laughing.
It was it a...it was a..
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I guess it was nerves.
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So I went back down to the basement
to these two guys,
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who'd just settled down to relax,
and I'm still laughing.
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I said, "Have you seen
the World Cup this morning?"
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And he goes, "Why?"
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He was starting...
His collar was starting to...
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And I said, "Well, it's kind of
funny, cos it's not there any more".
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And he said, "What?!"
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I said, "Come on. The cup,
did you put it away?"
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"No." I said,
"Well, you'd better phone somebody".
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Within ten minutes, it seemed every
copper in the city was in that hall,
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as was the media.
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The police think the cup was stolen
from its case here
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at about 11:00 to 12:00
this morning.
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This was an inside hall,
so it had swing doors.
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The security there put the chain
on the outside.
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So all he had to do
was undo eight screws.
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Whoever did it came in
with a screwdriver,
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and they undid four screws there,
four screws here,
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swung the door open, walked in
and took the cup.
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We were told when the cup went
in here
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that the most stringent
security precautions
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were being taken to protect it.
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Today, somehow, they failed.
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It was so easy.
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On his third day on the job,
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McLarens was one of
the first suspects.
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I was there all day.
I mean, one person questioned me,
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the next person questioned me.
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They were just endlessly
badgering us.
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And of course, they sacked me.
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Now, if they were watching it
the whole time,
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one of them must have taken it.
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So therefore, they couldn't have
been watching it the whole time.
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"Who put that chain
on the outside of the doors?!"
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It was British stupidity.
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It was Monty Python right there.
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It could have been John Cleese
stealing it.
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Er...please don't panic,
just hand over all your money.
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It was quite the thing.
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REALLY was.
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What a time it was for the cup
to get nicked.
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This was '60s London after all.
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You could call it a lively place.
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MUSIC: All Day and All of the Night
by The Kinks
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Britain went through a huge
transformation in the 1960s.
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During the '50s, it was a grey
period, it was consolidation,
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and in the '60s, it was breaking off
the shackles of the war,
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and London was at the heart of that.
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Music, culturally, economically,
politically and sport.
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There was a glamour
coming around London.
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But it was a very murky place,
with, er...with criminality.
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It was a time and an era
where the organised-crime gangs
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were still very significant.
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They were running the show
more like!
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The Krays in the east,
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you've got the Richardson brothers
in south London.
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You don't miss about
with these fellas!
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And then you've got your regular
villains all over the place!
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There was more money
around post-war.
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People could go out and buy things
that were nicer.
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And at the same time,
that meant that for thieves,
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it was a wonderful time,
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cos there was a lot more
luxury goods coming in.
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And along came the ultimate
luxury good.
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APPLAUSE
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The Jules Rimet Trophy was named
after the French geezer
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who sorted out the first World Cup.
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It already lived a charmed life,
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spending most of World War II
under an Italian bloke's bed
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as he hid it from the Nazis.
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The likes of Pele had lifted it,
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so you'd think that when it turned
up in London in January '66,
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we'd look after it.
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But did we f...!
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APPLAUSE DROWNS OUT SPEECH
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Whether they will leave it here
permanently
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or just temporarily
will be seen in July.
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It didn't go into the FA's safe,
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it ended up in a strongroom
in central London.
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And it would go around the country
on display for people to see.
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A man called George Bird
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was employed by the FA
to manage the cup,
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carry it, look after it.
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He was a silversmith,
and he would take it around
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in the basket on the front of
his bike.
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Sometimes, if he wasn't going back
to the strongroom,
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he would leave it in his house
overnight under the bed,
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and then just take it
to the strongroom in the morning.
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Completely amateurish
and unbelievably-poor security.
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It's not exactly a surprise
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it got nicked from a stamp
exhibition then, is it?
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And with it happening just
11 days before an election,
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it had left the FA, police
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and especially
the Labour Prime Minister,
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looking like right mugs.
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Politically,
it was hugely embarrassing.
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Because Harold Wilson thought the
World Cup would be a big winner
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for him politically,
for him and Labour.
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He wants to present Britain
as a resurgent,
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rising Phoenix from the ashes,
everything is going to be better,
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and he's lost the World Cup
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before a ball's been kicked
in the tournament!
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And more importantly,
Ted Heath, his Tory opponent,
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who was very dull,
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was all of a sudden
able to crack jokes
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and make political points
at his cost.
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The real reserves are down to
88 million.
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That's the result of 17 months
of socialist government.
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And then I saw that the World Cup
had disappeared.
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LAUGHTER
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And I said to myself,
"Can they even have got at that?"
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LAUGHTER
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From the point of view
of the police, it's a huge deal,
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because they're under massive
pressure to get it back.
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They want to see one man
in particular.
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They describe him as being
in his late 30s,
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five feet, ten inches' tall,
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slim build, sallow complexion,
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thin lips and dark hair.
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Security guard John
was no longer a suspect.
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Now the police had a description
of a man they did want to collar.
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So the trophy had gone, and
the police had a description out.
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With an election around the corner
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and less than four months
until the World Cup started,
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this needed solving sharpish.
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So in came the Sweeney.
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As in Sweeney Todd, Flying Squad.
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Cue Apache!
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In the '60s, when I joined
the police force,
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you wouldn't have known
who the Flying Squad were.
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All you knew was
a load of tough guys
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who would suddenly just descend upon
a police station
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for a cup of tea and a fag
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before they went out and did
whatever they did.
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They would only go on a Flying Squad
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if they had a good reputation
of being good thief-catchers.
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Good thief-catchers
and living a high life.
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Cos, you know, you got very close
to the line of being the villain.
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The Flying Squad were given
that much rope to get stuff done.
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Crime was a business, and in that
business, there were two firms.
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One was the gangs,
and the other was the police.
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And we know, because of corruption,
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they did their own business deals.
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A couple of days after the theft,
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FA top suit Joe Mears
received a ransom note.
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Dear Joe.
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No doubt you view
with very great concern
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the loss of the World Cup.
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The ransom note said,
"We want £15,000
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"or it's going to go
into the melting pot".
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To me, it's only so much weight
in scrap gold.
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To show that they meant business,
the FA were asked to leave a note
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in Thursday's evening news
personal column
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saying they were willing
to do business.
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"I stress once again that this cup
is only so much scrap to me.
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"And repeat, do not inform press
or police."
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So, what's the first thing
Mears did?
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Informed the police, didn't he?!
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In charge was Flying Squad
Detective Len Buggy.
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Buggy didn't need to be
at the top of his game
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to work out this was genuine.
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In with the letter was part of
the trophy lining.
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So the message went into the paper.
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Now, this wasn't the first shady
deal the FA and Flying Squad
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had made that week.
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Remember George Bird, the bloke
pedalling the trophy around?
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Well, he wasn't just good
at navigating city traffic.
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He was the FA's go-to silversmith.
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And in a fit of shitting themselves,
they paid him a little visit.
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George Bird recorded how
on the night of the theft,
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senior FA officials and Scotland
Yard detectives visited him
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and said they wanted a replica made
secretly.
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They knew that he had all the
measurements and that he could make
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something that looked precisely
the same as the original.
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FIFA told them not to do this.
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Explicitly, they'd said,
"No, you mustn't do this".
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And the FA just went ahead
and did it anyway.
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This was a secret operation
to make a fake trophy
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that they could potentially pretend
was the real one
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at some point in the future.
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So whilst that was all going on,
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Detective Buggy was negotiating
with a ransomer.
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This Buggy didn't like
having his photo taken,
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but he did like writing statements.
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What happened next is in
one of them.
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You can read it
in the National Archives,
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but not on a Monday cos it's shut.
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It starts with a bloke
demanding the cash,
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calling FA boss Mears.
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Mears tells Buggy.
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It's now Friday, five days
after the trophy was nicked.
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Buggy heads over
to the Mears' household.
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And by this time,
Joe Mears has taken to bed,
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because he's got serious heart
problems.
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This is really stressing him out.
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His wife takes over, and she says,
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"I'll answer the phone
if the guy rings back".
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And Buggy says,
"I want you to tell the ransomer
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"that I am your husband's assistant,
Mr McPhee".
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He does call again.
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Mrs Mears answers, explains
that her other half is sick
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and hands over to Buggy, AKA McPhee.
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The two men agree to meet
in Battersea Park.
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The ransomer is calling himself
Jackson.
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So you have a man pretending
to be Jackson,
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a man pretending to be McPhee,
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meeting up to potentially hand over
£15,000
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for the return of
the Jules Rimet Trophy.
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Hang on a minute.
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So the ransomer's Jackson
and the copper's MacPhee.
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All right. On you go, son.
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What McPhee actually brings is
a parcel full of paper, not money.
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Just at the front of the parcel
are a few fibres shoved in
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to try and make it look like
it's genuine cash.
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But in fact,
it's just a bag of paper.
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Cheeky...
MUSIC DROWNS OUT SPEECH
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But it does the job,
and Jackson gets in the motor,
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saying the trophy's
stashed somewhere else.
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# Girl, you really got me going...#
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They're heading towards
south-east London.
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This area is well known to be a sort
of hive of activity for criminals.
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Following them is an undercover van
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doing a lousy job
of staying undercover.
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Jackson can smell a rat.
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But on they go, stopping
at Kennington Park.
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And that's when Jackson bails out.
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# You really got me
you really got me
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# You really got me. #
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00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,240
Now, this Jackson turned out to be
a bloke called Edward Betchley.
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Betchley was a former docker
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who lived around the corner
from where he was nicked,
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just off the Walworth Road
in south London.
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Remember that.
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Back in the '60s, this part of town
was rough. Stand on me.
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Don't you think you can call me
dirty!
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You'll get a smack
in the bleedin' earhole!
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Camberwell, Walworth
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and then, up near the river,
Rotherhithe and....
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Bermondsey. It's packed with people
all living together
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in little houses and old buildings,
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all trying to make a living
as best they can.
338
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,880
Some not making a living at all.
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00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,240
Others helping themselves
to what's not theirs.
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00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,320
For most people around here, the
docks were the centre of the Earth.
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Hard men doing hard work.
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And some of them ended up
doing hard time.
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And when you were in the sort of
pickle that Ted Betchley was in,
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there was one man you
needed to call.
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Written on one of the cell walls
was,
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"If you want to get out of here,
call for Baldwin".
347
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,160
My dad was involved in the case
348
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,960
cos he actually acted for the man
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who was accused of stealing
the World Cup.
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Freddie Baldwin was bigtime.
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00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,320
In '63, he had represented
Christine Keeler,
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the woman at the centre of
the Profumo affair
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that rocked the Tory government.
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My father was involved in every
high-profile case
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00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,960
that was going on in south London,
if not London.
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A lot of the local criminals
would go to see him
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00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,520
because they all knew him. You know,
it was like a little community.
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Everybody knew each other, including
the police and the criminals.
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00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,000
But even Baldwin has his work
cut out with Betchley.
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00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,960
The old bill charged him
with the theft
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and were putting the squeeze on.
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They know that this guy knows,
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00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:55,400
or knows somebody who has the cup.
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00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,080
So it's their only lead,
and they're going to go at it 100%.
365
00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,440
The investigations into
the cup's disappearance
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00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,240
reached a flurry of activity
early this morning
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00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,600
when Flying Squad raided several
houses in south-east London.
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00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,080
In the area where he was arrested,
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00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:13,400
the Yard just flooded it
with officers.
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00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,440
There were 200 officers in and
around Camberwell and Walworth Road,
371
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,680
and they were going in,
smashing down doors,
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00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,240
pulling up floorboards, making
absolute nuisances of themselves.
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00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,160
So whoever had taken this cup would
be under even more pressure now.
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00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,000
Not just from the Yard,
but from fellow criminals,
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00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000
because the last thing they want
is a load of coppers turning up,
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00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,680
smashing their doors down
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00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,160
and arresting them for all the other
stuff that they're up to.
378
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,560
Betchley denied nicking it,
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00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,840
saying he was acting as a middleman.
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00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,880
And to be fair,
he didn't exactly match the ID.
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00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,680
But he did say he knew where it was.
382
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,240
So if somehow, word could get out,
383
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,360
like through his solicitor,
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00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,840
then maybe the trophy
could magically reappear.
385
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,360
And then maybe Betchley
could get an easy ride in court.
386
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,280
I don't think my father would have
been involved in anything illegal.
387
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,200
I think he had licence to do
388
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,600
whatever deal was needed to get
the cup back.
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00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,560
He was acting for Betchley. Betchley
had been accused of stealing it.
390
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,560
That's what my father
was acting for, as his solicitor.
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00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,960
It turning up seemed like
an open secret.
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00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,360
Even the press knew!
393
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,200
As it happened, it took far less
than 48 hours for it to appear.
394
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,840
Thanks to a man who worked
on the docks, and his canine friend.
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00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,000
Woof!
396
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,320
It's probably all most people
remember about it.
397
00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:46,120
The World Cup gets stolen,
Pickles the dog finds it.
398
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,920
I was just going out to make
a phone call to me brother.
399
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,560
There was a phone box
across the road,
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00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,840
so I said to my wife,
401
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,080
I'll take the dog out for a walk
while I'm doing it".
402
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,600
So I said, "Come on, Pix, let's go".
403
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,080
You know, every dog wants to go out.
404
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,560
A neighbour's car was parked there,
405
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,240
and he went over to the car.
406
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,880
He was sniffing around here
and I saw the parcel.
407
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,360
He's sniffing
this newspaper-wrapped package.
408
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,440
What the hell's that?
409
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,320
It's about that size, so...
410
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:31,640
Picked it, I felt it was
very weighty.
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00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,640
I pulled a bit off.
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00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,760
And I could see
the top of the statue.
413
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,520
And I looked back
and I seen, "Brazil '62",
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00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,040
and that's what sort of clicked
in me mind.
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00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,040
And, of course, you know,
being a football fan,
416
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,600
and front-page news and TV...
417
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,360
I went...
418
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,240
.."I think this is the World Cup!
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On Sunday, 27th March,
420
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,640
exactly a week after
the trophy was nicked,
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00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,160
a mutt called Pickles
sniffed it out in his front garden.
422
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,200
How bleedin' British!
423
00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:12,160
So Corbett jumped in his motor
424
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,920
and ended up at the
Gipsy Hill police station.
425
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,640
I still got me slippers on!
426
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,760
I only went across the road to do
a quick phone call.
427
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,640
And I just pull up and jump out,
428
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,360
push through the doors.
429
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,160
HE PANTS BREATHLESSLY
430
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,560
Bosh!
431
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,160
I said...
432
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,320
"I think I've found the World Cup".
433
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,480
"Hmm." And he's,
434
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,760
"Doesn't look
very World Cuppy to me, sonny".
435
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,280
After a few checks,
they decided that actually,
436
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,040
it did look World Cuppy.
437
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,720
And that's when the questioning
really started.
438
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,040
I'm being interviewed
and then it strikes to me...
439
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,720
Oh!
440
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,160
I'm going to be number-one suspect,
ain't I?
441
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,920
The summer of '66.
442
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,920
A golden time for any England fan.
443
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,080
The final of the World Cup.
444
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,880
But we're not there yet.
445
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,600
We've only just got the cup back!
446
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,520
That was thanks to Dave Corbett
and his dog.
447
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,280
But what tends to happen
when you hand something in
that everyone's been looking for
448
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,560
is that people start to think that
you're the reason it went missing.
449
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,680
No-one's contacted me at all
about the award.
450
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,800
Everything else,
but nothing about the reward money.
451
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,120
I told them what happened,
how I found it and all that,
452
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,400
but from going back home,
453
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,280
for the next two to three weeks,
454
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,040
they was round every other day
455
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,400
asking me this question,
456
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,880
"Do you know this person?
Do you know that person?
457
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,960
"Have you been here?
Have you been there?"
458
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,360
HE SIGHS DEEPLY
459
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,200
To be fair, you can see why.
460
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,120
Corbett worked on the docks,
461
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,120
just like the bloke in custody,
Ted Betchley had once done.
462
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,000
And they were both
south London boys.
463
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,000
But Corbett checked out.
464
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,600
And as a reward, he pocketed
over 100 grand in today's money.
465
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,720
Money enough to buy himself
a new gaff!
466
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,240
Lucky, lucky bastard!
467
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,400
And Pickles?
He became a national hero.
468
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,120
Pickles, the 14-month-old mongrel,
found fame
469
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,200
when he sniffed out
the missing World Cup.
470
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,120
But for the suddenly
world-famous pooch,
471
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,680
there's more glamour to follow.
472
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,480
He's been signed up to appear
in a film. The title?
473
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,880
The Spy with a Cold Nose.
474
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:03,280
The owner was lucky to have
that dog.
475
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,000
Made a fortune out of that dog.
476
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,800
Got fame out of that dog.
477
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,240
It was paraded around on TV.
478
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,800
Became the most famous dog
of its time.
479
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,360
Well, this is Pickles.
480
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,160
He didn't come
when his master called,
481
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,320
so Mr Corbett went to see
what Pickles was doing.
482
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:22,800
It's like Lassie
meets the Italian Job,
483
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,000
meets some kind of Ealing comedy.
484
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,760
It's just too perfect
for the reporters.
485
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,440
We love shaggy dog stories,
486
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,120
and it just shifted
the entire focus away.
487
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,400
And you stopped thinking about
the incompetence
488
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,400
and the daft things
that had gone on earlier.
489
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,320
All of a sudden, it turns
what was a disaster into a triumph!
490
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,320
The PM had thought his days
were numbered,
491
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:51,360
then the cup turned up
before the election.
492
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,480
What a lucky boy!
493
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,040
In the end, Harold Wilson
was smiles all round.
494
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,440
That little wave of almost
euphoria, relief, happiness,
495
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,480
which you want to go into the polls.
It actually helped him.
496
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,080
So joy for Labour and gloom
and doom for the Conservatives.
497
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:08,800
He came out with a 98-seat majority.
498
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,240
Bigger than Boris Johnson
got in 2019.
499
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,840
Pickles did him proud.
500
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Around that time, Ted Betchley
was at Bow Street Magistrates.
501
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,400
Betchley was facing charges of
stealing the cup and ransoming it.
502
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,880
Back then, this could have meant
a life sentence.
503
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,960
What he got was two years,
with the theft charge dropped.
504
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,040
That lawyer, Freddie Baldwin,
must have done one hell of a job.
505
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,720
The British legal system
doesn't do plea deals.
506
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,960
Perhaps in the 1960s,
things were a little bit...
507
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,240
a little bit less black and white.
508
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,600
Perhaps they just wanted to get
a conviction and move on.
509
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,400
I think the reason my father
got him quite a short sentence was,
510
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,960
I think there was a deal going on
511
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,880
behind the scenes
to get the cup back,
512
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,080
again, because it was such a huge
embarrassment
513
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,120
to everybody all round.
514
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,560
After Betchley's trial, the question
of who stole the World Cup
515
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,240
was forgotten.
516
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,000
Life was back to normal.
517
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,720
Well, as normal as it can be when
England are about to face Germany
518
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,480
in a World Cup final.
519
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,080
The trophy had turned up and someone
was doing time.
520
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Even though the time he was doing
wasn't for lifting it.
521
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,720
The Old Bill hadn't even spoken
of anyone matching
522
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,800
the description they'd put out.
523
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,880
But they ignored these minor details
and settled down for the football.
524
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,680
Police interest in the investigation
was suspiciously brief.
525
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,240
And once that trophy was returned,
they didn't really want to know.
526
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,000
You would have thought when you've
lost the Jules Rimet trophy,
527
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,240
the World Cup has been stolen
and the world
528
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,600
has been looking at you,
laughing at you, mocking you,
529
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,080
you'd really want to nail
who did that?
530
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,360
But they didn't.
531
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,160
They'd got the trophy back, they
weren't really interested
532
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,320
in anything else.
533
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,880
And I think they wanted very much
to brush the embarrassment,
534
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,560
embarrassing story under the carpet
as quickly as they could.
535
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,640
We got the trophy back,
now let's deal with that.
536
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480
The purpose now is to make sure
it doesn't happen again.
537
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,600
You're going to have
to repeat that...
538
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,640
..to make sure it doesn't
happen again.
539
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,640
Now, that sounds pretty obvious,
but what lengths do you think
540
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,840
the suits at the FA, Scotland Yard
and Westminster would go to
541
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,800
to make sure it didn't happen again?
542
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,200
Well, let's see...
543
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,320
The final of the World Cup.
544
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,640
The cream of the world's players
battle for the honour
545
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,560
of playing on this arena
on this afternoon.
546
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,280
We all know this part!
547
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,200
England took the lead in extra time
thanks to the linesman.
548
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,960
He's called Tofiq Bahramov,
by the way,
549
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,000
and as a stadium named after
him in Azerbaijan.
550
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,720
But I digress...
551
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Hurst scored another...
552
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,000
Bobby lifted the cup...
553
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,320
..and Nobby Stiles danced across
the pitch holding it.
554
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,440
What a time to be alive.
555
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,280
They then showed it off at a posh
hotel in Kensington.
556
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,920
Well, they showed off something?
557
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,400
That morning, a young PC and two
other coppers
558
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,240
had been sent to FA HQ.
559
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,640
We walked into the office
on cup final day...
560
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000
..and on the desk were two boxes.
561
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,080
And this is the real trophy that was
one, he opened it up.
562
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,920
And we've had a replica made.
563
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,480
You're just taking it in, really,
you don't ask questions,
564
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,960
you're taking it in, and this is
what you're going to do,
565
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,960
we want you to take these two
with you today.
566
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,640
You get to the stadium, you give
the real one...
567
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,360
..to the stadium security...
568
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,760
And you retain the replica
with you all the time.
569
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,440
And after the game, we want
you to switch them.
570
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,640
You bleedin' what?
571
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,520
So those were the lengths the powers
that be would go to!
572
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Jesus, Mary and Jimmy Greaves.
573
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,600
We stayed with the replica
throughout, in the tunnel.
574
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,560
We were standing by the side
of the tunnel
575
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,280
when the players walked by me.
576
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,520
That's what just took you over,
really, and you just...
577
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,200
..washed over everything
with excitement.
578
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,960
There was no plan.
579
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,880
There was nothing, nothing
like that at all.
580
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,280
It was up to you, use
your initiative.
581
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,400
It wasn't until it actually
disappeared into the dressing room
582
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,200
area, that then the decision was,
you go and get it.
583
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,240
So that was the case, go and get the
trophy out of the wooden box.
584
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,640
And I walked into the dressing room
with it under my tunic.
585
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,000
Luckily, dear old Nobby was
sitting there,
586
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,600
glazed eyes, bless him.
587
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,880
We'll have that, you have this.
588
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,040
And that's how it was, so I just
turned with the real trophy,
589
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,760
under my tunic, out the door,
into the car.
590
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,000
We'd done what we wanted to do.
591
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,680
In the dressing room and later
at the dinner and on the balcony
592
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,800
of the hotel in front of the fans.
593
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080
They haven't got the trophy
they've just won.
594
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,880
They've got a replica that was made
in case the stolen World Cup
595
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,320
was never found.
596
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,320
I think it showed
incredible disrespect
597
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,800
for the players and actually
the watching fans and public.
598
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,360
It's an incredible deceit.
599
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:35,880
Any picture you've seen of English
players holding the Cup
600
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,440
after it had left the dressing room,
that trophy is a fake.
601
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,800
The real one didn't leave a police
safe until they added it
602
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,880
to Mexico for the next tournament
in 1970.
603
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,640
It's incredible, it's an
incredible tale.
604
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,400
But of course, it's not
the full tale.
605
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,360
The full tale means knowing who
actually nicked it.
606
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,400
It wasn't Betchley
who was banged up,
607
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,800
it wasn't security guard, Mclarens,
or Pickles' owner Corbett.
608
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,720
Who was the five foot ten
fella with black hair
609
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,480
and a sallow complexion?
610
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,320
More than 50 years later,
his identity
611
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680
would finally be revealed.
612
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:27,480
# What's your name?
613
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,160
# What's your name?
614
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,520
# What's your name?
615
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:40,400
# Shooby-do ba-ba-da #.
616
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,760
I'm the crime editor
at the Daily Mirror.
617
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,320
For my job, part of it is speaking
to people trying to build trust
618
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,640
in relationships with people.
619
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,040
And slowly but surely, you can
sometimes start to find things
620
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,200
that have never been revealed.
621
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:14,040
I've been told by sources
the identity of the man
622
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,680
that stole the World Cup.
623
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,880
The source said that it was a man
called Sidney Coo, who came
624
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,640
from the Walworth Road area.
625
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,960
So that was what I had to go on.
626
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,040
I went through all the newspaper
cuttings and started going back
627
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,040
through the National Archives
just to look at the story
628
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,400
of the World Cup and through all
the police files, just to gather
629
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,160
as much information as I could.
630
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,120
The name didn't come up,
but Sidney Q's manner did.
631
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,440
Most of this story played
out in South London.
632
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,560
And where was Walworth Road?
633
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Correctamundo.
634
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,200
It just added to my belief that this
tip off had a lot to it.
635
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:04,080
But the more I looked at it,
the more I thought it was true,
636
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,360
the more I became obsessed.
637
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,880
But even after some more digging,
the name didn't show up.
638
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,960
So Pettifor did what all good
reporters do when they get
639
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,280
themselves in a bind...
640
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,760
Resort to social media.
641
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,680
One evening I was sitting down,
I checked my messages
642
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:26,280
and there was a message saying
"This must be Sidney Cugullere."
643
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,160
C-U-G-U-L-L-E-R-E.
644
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,120
Cugullere, that is one hell
of a name.
645
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,920
When I did searches through
the birth records, I found
646
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,560
that he'd been born in 1926 in
Woolworth, that he was the eighth
647
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,560
of nine children, and he'd lived
in real poverty.
648
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,520
He'd been jailed in the early
'60s for stealing mail bags.
649
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,920
Released in 1964, so crucially, he
was free at the time and living
650
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,440
in the Walworth Road area in 1966.
651
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,320
A crook? Yes.
652
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,600
From South London? Yes.
653
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,680
In his late 30s in 66?
654
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,640
Also, yes.
655
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,800
This was certainly looking
like our trophy lifter.
656
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,920
Now, if Cugullere had nicked it
and Betchley ransomed it,
657
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,600
they must have known each
other, right?
658
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,240
If only there were something
or someone to show
659
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,320
that they were connected,
like solicitor, Freddie Baldwin.
660
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,320
So South London's finest legal brain
had represented both of them.
661
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,440
Coincidence? Coincidence my...
662
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,680
He was well known to my father
and my father had acted for him.
663
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:48,400
He was a regular in the office
in Jamaica Road.
664
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,960
He was always popping in for cups
of tea, so the whole thing
665
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,720
fitted quite well with him,
Cugullere and Bletchley.
666
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,000
All Pettifor needed now was someone
who knew Sid, and who knew
667
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,080
what he used to get up to.
668
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,200
Specifically on say the 20th
of March 1966?
669
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,440
With a name like Cugullere, it
didn't take long to find someone.
670
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,240
I open the door and there's
this lad standing there.
671
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,880
I said, "Hello, how can I help you?"
672
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,560
And he said, "I'm from
the Mirror newspaper."
673
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,720
He said, "Do you know anything
about the World Cup?"
674
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,880
I burst out laughing, my wife burst
out laughing,
675
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,240
so I couldn't really hide it.
676
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,800
And he said, "Would you mind
telling us the story?"
677
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,200
Sidney was my uncle,
my dad's brother.
678
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,360
My dad was called Reg and Reg
and Sid were brought up
679
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,480
on Walworth Road.
680
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Times were really tough on them.
681
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,440
They started off stealing
at a very young age.
682
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,600
Sid kind of looked after my dad.
683
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,680
Sid was a... As he got his name,
Mr Crafty,
684
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:01,960
but he was the crafty one.
685
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,240
So did he pitch the bleedin'
thing or what?
686
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,200
It was my uncle Sidney Cugullere,
who stole the World Cup.
687
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,920
They told me they didn't actually go
to steal the World Cup.
688
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,840
If they were asked to do
a job for someone,
689
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,320
for a certain amount of money,
they'd go and do it.
690
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,600
So they went there to steal
the stamps.
691
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,600
They were going to weigh the job
up, see what's what,
692
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,680
where everything was, go back,
steal them.
693
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,200
Well, Sid picked the lock, spotted
the World Cup,
694
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:43,320
put it under his jacket
and walked out.
695
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,080
"Come on, Reg, let's go."
696
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,320
Just a spur of the moment thing.
697
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,040
As they got out of the place, he
opened his jacket and he said,
698
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,880
"Here, Reg, look at this."
699
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,720
And my dad looked at him
and he went,
700
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,160
"What the fucking hell do you think
we're going to do with that?"
701
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,960
So there you have it.
702
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,520
More than 50 years after its theft
and after a ten month investigation
703
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,040
by a Daily Mirror journo, we know
who hoisted the World Cup.
704
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,160
Sidney 'Mr Crafty Bastard' Cugullere.
705
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,600
Him and his brother, Reg, they were
pretty proud of that pinch.
706
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,520
I was about, I think, 16,
and I remember him telling me
707
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,560
and my mum come in and went,
"Reg, stop it, enough's enough."
708
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,520
And then he'd tell me
a bit more.
709
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,000
And then Sid would say something
and the story
710
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,400
sort of grew from there.
711
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,280
With all those bedtime stories, we
also know about the little trip
712
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,720
the trophy took while it
was missing.
713
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,200
After he stole it, apparently
he took it back to his house
714
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,400
just off the Walworth Road, where he
lived with his wife, Nell.
715
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,440
And he put it on the mantelpiece
and said to her, "Look, darling,
716
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,200
"I've got you this lovely
decorative cup."
717
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:12,360
The police think the cup was stolen
from its case here at about...
718
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,640
And then later in the day, the theft
of the cup came on the news.
719
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,840
The story goes, Nell saw it and
said, "What the fuck are you doing?
720
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,440
"You've just stolen the World Cup,
get that out of my house,
721
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,120
"you bastard."
722
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,480
Sidney realises obviously that he's
got himself into a bit
723
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,480
of a sticky situation.
724
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,320
And him and his brother Reg decide
to take the cup up to Reggie's
725
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,560
father in law's house in Luton.
726
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,760
And then apparently they're stopped
on the way by the police
727
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,400
who have a look at them
and decide to let them go.
728
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,920
Too hot to keep, they stashed it in
the father-in-law's cold bunker.
729
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,920
And after they find out it wasn't
actually solid gold,
730
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,880
it made its journey back
to South London.
731
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,880
And was dumped outside Dave
Corbett's gaff.
732
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,760
One of Corbett's neighbours even
spotted someone looking like Sid
733
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,720
a day or two before it was found.
734
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,320
Visiting an old friend,
was he?
735
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,560
He come from Walworth didn't he?
736
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,200
I wouldn't go near Walworth,
oh, dead...
737
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:27,400
Oh, no, oh, that's a no-go area
for us lot down there.
738
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,040
Yeah.
739
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,960
The pickle story, I think, is...
740
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,320
Is, yeah, it's a good story.
741
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,040
It's what happened.
742
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,440
So, I mean, lucky dog, but...
743
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,000
Yeah.
744
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,400
If only Pickles could explain
what went on.
745
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,520
But he's buried outside the house
Corbett bought
746
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,520
with the reward money.
747
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,960
He couldn't talk either,
to be fair.
748
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,960
The only thing he didn't
like was cats.
749
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,840
And that was his downfall.
750
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,120
Pickles met a rather
unfortunate end.
751
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,120
A year after finding the trophy
he's chased a cat up a tree
752
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,000
and strangled himself with his lead.
753
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,400
Poor bastard.
754
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,800
This dog changed my life completely.
755
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,720
He was...
756
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,560
He was not only a friend...
757
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,760
He was...
758
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,200
He was...
759
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,840
And, he give me...
760
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,960
..this house and my future.
761
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,720
He changed my future completely.
762
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:55,400
Sidney Cugullere died
in 2005, aged 79.
763
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,880
He even at a nice little Jules Rimet
style flower arrangement
764
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,800
at his send-off.
765
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,440
Sid always used to brag that he
was the first Englishman
766
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,920
to lift the World Cup, yeah.
767
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,120
During his life, Sid was sentenced
to over 20 years of jail time.
768
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,400
This theft set off a chain of events
more unlikely than the plot
769
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,840
of a London gangster film.
770
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,800
The whole story is completely
bizarre and just
771
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,960
unbelievable, really.
772
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,080
It was a farce, the whole thing
should never happened.
773
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,760
If you take it too seriously,
it would do your brain,
774
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,920
because you think, No,
that's nonsense.
775
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,600
You couldn't make it up, really.
776
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:38,040
Victory or snatched from the jaws
of defeat with a dog, Pickles.
777
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,840
So what happened to the cup then?
778
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,520
Well, after Brazil won it
for the third time,
779
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,000
they got to keep it.
780
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,640
The beautiful trophy went
off to Brazil.
781
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,560
And then in 1983 it was stolen.
782
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,160
During the night there was an armed
robbery and it disappeared.
783
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400
And it's never been seen since.
784
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,600
Maybe we'll find out who pulled
that job off in another 50 years.
785
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,080
# Dirty old river
786
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,280
# Must you keep rolling
787
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,680
# Rolling into the night...#
788
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,640
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