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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,400 This programme contains strong language from the start. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,520 What do you know about the World Cup in '66? 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,040 Well, you all know that England won it. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,200 We stuck four past the Germans, 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,160 with Geoff Hurst scoring a hat-trick. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,640 And what about the trophy? 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,400 At some point, you must have seen the Queen, God rest her soul, 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,360 handing it to Bobby Moore. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,360 Maybe you know the cup have been nicked a few months before. 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,120 You might even heard it was found by a dog. 11 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:35,360 But if you think that's the full story, 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,160 you don't know the half of it. 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,520 It just really is quintessentially an English crime story. 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,800 You're entrusted to look after the world-famous trophy 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,200 and you've lost it! 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,200 So many stories about what happened are absolute crap! 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,440 Behind the scenes, there's a lot more the general public don't see. 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,000 And my dad looked at him and he went, 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,160 "What the fucking hell do you think we're going to do with that?" 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,920 # Well, a young man ain't got nothin' in the world these days... # 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,200 The story of who stole the World Cup begins with the story 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,200 of the man guarding the World Cup. 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,120 # I said a young man...# 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,760 I was 20 years old, I was a struggling actor. 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,200 I was in Monty Python, which is my claim to fame. 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,960 Ring head office, would you, Norman? 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,560 Shall I go through Maintenance? No, you'd better go through... 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,760 It wasn't any of these guys, though. 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,080 Here he is. This is John. 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,520 In '66, John was having a great old time. 31 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,560 He's English, by the way, 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,480 he's just spent too long in Canada. 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,440 I was living in London. 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,320 I shared an apartment in Knightsbridge with my friend. 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,160 He was a musician. 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,760 Everybody used to come in there. It was crazy. 37 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,720 I remember one night, sitting there, and I opened the door 38 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,720 and there's Keith Moon of The Who 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,080 standing there in a spacesuit. 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,400 And he had a star on his forehead. 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,080 He was a total nutcase. 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,240 John's acting career wasn't exactly taking off. 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,120 So to fund his nights out, 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,360 he'd do security across the city. 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,920 Like these fellas. 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,480 They were always looking for people. 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,640 You wore a nice uniform, did your security work, 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,680 made a few bucks and get drunk and get happy. 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,760 That was what life was like in those days. 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,160 In March, he had a gig guarding the Jules Rimet Trophy. 51 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,520 The World Cup. 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,080 Which was on display at a stamp exhibition. 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,640 Yeah, you heard that right. 54 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,840 The Jules Rimet Trophy was in the Methodist Central Hall. 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,960 Because there was a Stanley Gibbons exhibition of stamps, 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,880 and they had asked the FA if they could use the trophy 57 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:11,560 as an exhibit to attract people. 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,920 The Penny Black stamps were worth millions of pounds. 59 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,800 Hugely valuable. And the cup is not really worth very much. 60 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,600 The security company that was supposed to be in charge 61 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:27,680 of looking after the trophy was called Alsa-Guard. 62 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Their USP was that they had Alsatian dogs 63 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,160 as part of their security detail. 64 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:39,320 Alsa-Guard Services, whose motto is an alert Alsatian... 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,520 But for some reason, they weren't allowed to use any Alsatians 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,000 in the Methodist Central Hall. 67 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,440 I don't know, dogs were banned. 68 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Now, John, without his pooch, had started there on the Friday. 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,280 On the Sunday, the exhibition was shut, 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,520 but religious types could still get into the church. 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,720 This hall had hosted suffragette rallies 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,600 and speeches by the likes of Winston Churchill. 73 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,200 And it was about to stage another historic event. 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,800 24th March, 1966, I came into work. 75 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:22,480 The actual job was to just walk around the hall, 76 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,880 downstairs, upstairs, 77 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,080 check the doors were secure. 78 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,040 It was very basic, very relaxed. 79 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,120 One of the conditions was that weekends, when the place was closed, 80 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,240 this cup had to stay where it was, on the plinth. 81 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:40,280 Couldn't be put away in a safe. Had to stay right there. 82 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,040 I came in and the two old guys who were already there, 83 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,400 old-timers, sitting there drinking their tea, 84 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:49,720 talking about the last war. 85 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,720 Anyway, so I reported to him and he sent me downstairs 86 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,160 to the Post Office's Penny Black stamps. 87 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,720 We wandered around this basement, and finally, at about 12:00, 88 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,560 I went upstairs and I asked these guys, "Do you mind if we swap over?" 89 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,160 So I came out to do my inspection of the hall. 90 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,120 So I went across to where the cup was, 91 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,960 and lo and behold, it wasn't there. 92 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,560 It was gone. 93 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,880 Empty plinth. 94 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,680 # No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. # 95 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,520 I started laughing. It was it a...it was a.. 96 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,600 I guess it was nerves. 97 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,720 So I went back down to the basement to these two guys, 98 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,680 who'd just settled down to relax, and I'm still laughing. 99 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,320 I said, "Have you seen the World Cup this morning?" 100 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,480 And he goes, "Why?" 101 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,080 He was starting... His collar was starting to... 102 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,000 And I said, "Well, it's kind of funny, cos it's not there any more". 103 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,520 And he said, "What?!" 104 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,800 I said, "Come on. The cup, did you put it away?" 105 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,600 "No." I said, "Well, you'd better phone somebody". 106 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,400 Within ten minutes, it seemed every copper in the city was in that hall, 107 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,520 as was the media. 108 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,840 The police think the cup was stolen from its case here 109 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,760 at about 11:00 to 12:00 this morning. 110 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,480 This was an inside hall, so it had swing doors. 111 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,240 The security there put the chain on the outside. 112 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:41,480 So all he had to do was undo eight screws. 113 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,480 Whoever did it came in with a screwdriver, 114 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,920 and they undid four screws there, four screws here, 115 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,840 swung the door open, walked in and took the cup. 116 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,000 We were told when the cup went in here 117 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,960 that the most stringent security precautions 118 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,760 were being taken to protect it. 119 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,800 Today, somehow, they failed. 120 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:01,200 It was so easy. 121 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,760 On his third day on the job, 122 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,640 McLarens was one of the first suspects. 123 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,400 I was there all day. I mean, one person questioned me, 124 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,880 the next person questioned me. 125 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,320 They were just endlessly badgering us. 126 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,440 And of course, they sacked me. 127 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,360 Now, if they were watching it the whole time, 128 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,680 one of them must have taken it. 129 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,360 So therefore, they couldn't have been watching it the whole time. 130 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,960 "Who put that chain on the outside of the doors?!" 131 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,160 It was British stupidity. 132 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,960 It was Monty Python right there. 133 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,080 It could have been John Cleese stealing it. 134 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,280 Er...please don't panic, just hand over all your money. 135 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,320 It was quite the thing. 136 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,040 REALLY was. 137 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,200 What a time it was for the cup to get nicked. 138 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,040 This was '60s London after all. 139 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,200 You could call it a lively place. 140 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,120 MUSIC: All Day and All of the Night by The Kinks 141 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Britain went through a huge transformation in the 1960s. 142 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,840 During the '50s, it was a grey period, it was consolidation, 143 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,840 and in the '60s, it was breaking off the shackles of the war, 144 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,960 and London was at the heart of that. 145 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Music, culturally, economically, politically and sport. 146 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,480 There was a glamour coming around London. 147 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,240 But it was a very murky place, with, er...with criminality. 148 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,840 It was a time and an era where the organised-crime gangs 149 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,320 were still very significant. 150 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,720 They were running the show more like! 151 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,320 The Krays in the east, 152 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,600 you've got the Richardson brothers in south London. 153 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,360 You don't miss about with these fellas! 154 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,760 And then you've got your regular villains all over the place! 155 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,080 There was more money around post-war. 156 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,520 People could go out and buy things that were nicer. 157 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,840 And at the same time, that meant that for thieves, 158 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,080 it was a wonderful time, 159 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,840 cos there was a lot more luxury goods coming in. 160 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,760 And along came the ultimate luxury good. 161 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,720 APPLAUSE 162 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,760 The Jules Rimet Trophy was named after the French geezer 163 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,160 who sorted out the first World Cup. 164 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,280 It already lived a charmed life, 165 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,240 spending most of World War II under an Italian bloke's bed 166 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,600 as he hid it from the Nazis. 167 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,120 The likes of Pele had lifted it, 168 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,320 so you'd think that when it turned up in London in January '66, 169 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,160 we'd look after it. 170 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,640 But did we f...! 171 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:39,280 APPLAUSE DROWNS OUT SPEECH 172 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,920 Whether they will leave it here permanently 173 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,560 or just temporarily will be seen in July. 174 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,080 It didn't go into the FA's safe, 175 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,560 it ended up in a strongroom in central London. 176 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,360 And it would go around the country on display for people to see. 177 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,280 A man called George Bird 178 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,840 was employed by the FA to manage the cup, 179 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,440 carry it, look after it. 180 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,720 He was a silversmith, and he would take it around 181 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,840 in the basket on the front of his bike. 182 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,600 Sometimes, if he wasn't going back to the strongroom, 183 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,280 he would leave it in his house overnight under the bed, 184 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,880 and then just take it to the strongroom in the morning. 185 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,400 Completely amateurish and unbelievably-poor security. 186 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,920 It's not exactly a surprise 187 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,160 it got nicked from a stamp exhibition then, is it? 188 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,120 And with it happening just 11 days before an election, 189 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,560 it had left the FA, police 190 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,800 and especially the Labour Prime Minister, 191 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,320 looking like right mugs. 192 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,040 Politically, it was hugely embarrassing. 193 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,600 Because Harold Wilson thought the World Cup would be a big winner 194 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,880 for him politically, for him and Labour. 195 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,120 He wants to present Britain as a resurgent, 196 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,600 rising Phoenix from the ashes, everything is going to be better, 197 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,160 and he's lost the World Cup 198 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,280 before a ball's been kicked in the tournament! 199 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,080 And more importantly, Ted Heath, his Tory opponent, 200 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,880 who was very dull, 201 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,720 was all of a sudden able to crack jokes 202 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,160 and make political points at his cost. 203 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,960 The real reserves are down to 88 million. 204 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,920 That's the result of 17 months of socialist government. 205 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,640 And then I saw that the World Cup had disappeared. 206 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:37,200 LAUGHTER 207 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,840 And I said to myself, "Can they even have got at that?" 208 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,400 LAUGHTER 209 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,800 From the point of view of the police, it's a huge deal, 210 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,720 because they're under massive pressure to get it back. 211 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,080 They want to see one man in particular. 212 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,520 They describe him as being in his late 30s, 213 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:57,560 five feet, ten inches' tall, 214 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,400 slim build, sallow complexion, 215 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,280 thin lips and dark hair. 216 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:06,080 Security guard John was no longer a suspect. 217 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,320 Now the police had a description of a man they did want to collar. 218 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,480 So the trophy had gone, and the police had a description out. 219 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,040 With an election around the corner 220 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,280 and less than four months until the World Cup started, 221 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,160 this needed solving sharpish. 222 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,280 So in came the Sweeney. 223 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,240 As in Sweeney Todd, Flying Squad. 224 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,920 Cue Apache! 225 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,600 In the '60s, when I joined the police force, 226 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,880 you wouldn't have known who the Flying Squad were. 227 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,960 All you knew was a load of tough guys 228 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,200 who would suddenly just descend upon a police station 229 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,560 for a cup of tea and a fag 230 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,760 before they went out and did whatever they did. 231 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,920 They would only go on a Flying Squad 232 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,800 if they had a good reputation of being good thief-catchers. 233 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,160 Good thief-catchers and living a high life. 234 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,000 Cos, you know, you got very close to the line of being the villain. 235 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,480 The Flying Squad were given that much rope to get stuff done. 236 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,360 Crime was a business, and in that business, there were two firms. 237 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,400 One was the gangs, and the other was the police. 238 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,720 And we know, because of corruption, 239 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,680 they did their own business deals. 240 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,520 A couple of days after the theft, 241 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:47,520 FA top suit Joe Mears received a ransom note. 242 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,480 Dear Joe. 243 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,560 No doubt you view with very great concern 244 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,680 the loss of the World Cup. 245 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,360 The ransom note said, "We want £15,000 246 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,560 "or it's going to go into the melting pot". 247 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,520 To me, it's only so much weight in scrap gold. 248 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:12,320 To show that they meant business, the FA were asked to leave a note 249 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,480 in Thursday's evening news personal column 250 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,960 saying they were willing to do business. 251 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,640 "I stress once again that this cup is only so much scrap to me. 252 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,640 "And repeat, do not inform press or police." 253 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,160 So, what's the first thing Mears did? 254 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,440 Informed the police, didn't he?! 255 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,800 In charge was Flying Squad Detective Len Buggy. 256 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,640 Buggy didn't need to be at the top of his game 257 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,720 to work out this was genuine. 258 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,720 In with the letter was part of the trophy lining. 259 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,640 So the message went into the paper. 260 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,200 Now, this wasn't the first shady deal the FA and Flying Squad 261 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,720 had made that week. 262 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Remember George Bird, the bloke pedalling the trophy around? 263 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Well, he wasn't just good at navigating city traffic. 264 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,440 He was the FA's go-to silversmith. 265 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,360 And in a fit of shitting themselves, they paid him a little visit. 266 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,920 George Bird recorded how on the night of the theft, 267 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,360 senior FA officials and Scotland Yard detectives visited him 268 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,960 and said they wanted a replica made secretly. 269 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,880 They knew that he had all the measurements and that he could make 270 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,440 something that looked precisely the same as the original. 271 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,160 FIFA told them not to do this. 272 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Explicitly, they'd said, "No, you mustn't do this". 273 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,520 And the FA just went ahead and did it anyway. 274 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,800 This was a secret operation to make a fake trophy 275 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,000 that they could potentially pretend was the real one 276 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,640 at some point in the future. 277 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,080 So whilst that was all going on, 278 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,680 Detective Buggy was negotiating with a ransomer. 279 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,160 This Buggy didn't like having his photo taken, 280 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,480 but he did like writing statements. 281 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,360 What happened next is in one of them. 282 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,360 You can read it in the National Archives, 283 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,520 but not on a Monday cos it's shut. 284 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,920 It starts with a bloke demanding the cash, 285 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,440 calling FA boss Mears. 286 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,880 Mears tells Buggy. 287 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,040 It's now Friday, five days after the trophy was nicked. 288 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,080 Buggy heads over to the Mears' household. 289 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,320 And by this time, Joe Mears has taken to bed, 290 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,600 because he's got serious heart problems. 291 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,200 This is really stressing him out. 292 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,280 His wife takes over, and she says, 293 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,440 "I'll answer the phone if the guy rings back". 294 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,280 And Buggy says, "I want you to tell the ransomer 295 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,640 "that I am your husband's assistant, Mr McPhee". 296 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,400 He does call again. 297 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,000 Mrs Mears answers, explains that her other half is sick 298 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,800 and hands over to Buggy, AKA McPhee. 299 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,680 The two men agree to meet in Battersea Park. 300 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,160 The ransomer is calling himself Jackson. 301 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,480 So you have a man pretending to be Jackson, 302 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,560 a man pretending to be McPhee, 303 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,880 meeting up to potentially hand over £15,000 304 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,560 for the return of the Jules Rimet Trophy. 305 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,040 Hang on a minute. 306 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,240 So the ransomer's Jackson and the copper's MacPhee. 307 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,480 All right. On you go, son. 308 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,360 What McPhee actually brings is a parcel full of paper, not money. 309 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,360 Just at the front of the parcel are a few fibres shoved in 310 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,120 to try and make it look like it's genuine cash. 311 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,240 But in fact, it's just a bag of paper. 312 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,600 Cheeky... MUSIC DROWNS OUT SPEECH 313 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,120 But it does the job, and Jackson gets in the motor, 314 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,640 saying the trophy's stashed somewhere else. 315 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,080 # Girl, you really got me going...# 316 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:17,600 They're heading towards south-east London. 317 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,240 This area is well known to be a sort of hive of activity for criminals. 318 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,880 Following them is an undercover van 319 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,560 doing a lousy job of staying undercover. 320 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,480 Jackson can smell a rat. 321 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,000 But on they go, stopping at Kennington Park. 322 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,480 And that's when Jackson bails out. 323 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,960 # You really got me you really got me 324 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,320 # You really got me. # 325 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,240 Now, this Jackson turned out to be a bloke called Edward Betchley. 326 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,280 Betchley was a former docker 327 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,120 who lived around the corner from where he was nicked, 328 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,120 just off the Walworth Road in south London. 329 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,040 Remember that. 330 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,800 Back in the '60s, this part of town was rough. Stand on me. 331 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,400 Don't you think you can call me dirty! 332 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,280 You'll get a smack in the bleedin' earhole! 333 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,880 Camberwell, Walworth 334 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,280 and then, up near the river, Rotherhithe and.... 335 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Bermondsey. It's packed with people all living together 336 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,800 in little houses and old buildings, 337 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,520 all trying to make a living as best they can. 338 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,880 Some not making a living at all. 339 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,240 Others helping themselves to what's not theirs. 340 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,320 For most people around here, the docks were the centre of the Earth. 341 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:42,440 Hard men doing hard work. 342 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,760 And some of them ended up doing hard time. 343 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,480 And when you were in the sort of pickle that Ted Betchley was in, 344 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,160 there was one man you needed to call. 345 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,680 Written on one of the cell walls was, 346 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,400 "If you want to get out of here, call for Baldwin". 347 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,160 My dad was involved in the case 348 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,960 cos he actually acted for the man 349 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,440 who was accused of stealing the World Cup. 350 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,640 Freddie Baldwin was bigtime. 351 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,320 In '63, he had represented Christine Keeler, 352 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:18,600 the woman at the centre of the Profumo affair 353 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,080 that rocked the Tory government. 354 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,120 My father was involved in every high-profile case 355 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,960 that was going on in south London, if not London. 356 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,680 A lot of the local criminals would go to see him 357 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,520 because they all knew him. You know, it was like a little community. 358 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,760 Everybody knew each other, including the police and the criminals. 359 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,000 But even Baldwin has his work cut out with Betchley. 360 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,960 The old bill charged him with the theft 361 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,720 and were putting the squeeze on. 362 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,320 They know that this guy knows, 363 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:55,400 or knows somebody who has the cup. 364 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,080 So it's their only lead, and they're going to go at it 100%. 365 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,440 The investigations into the cup's disappearance 366 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,240 reached a flurry of activity early this morning 367 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,600 when Flying Squad raided several houses in south-east London. 368 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,080 In the area where he was arrested, 369 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:13,400 the Yard just flooded it with officers. 370 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,440 There were 200 officers in and around Camberwell and Walworth Road, 371 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,680 and they were going in, smashing down doors, 372 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,240 pulling up floorboards, making absolute nuisances of themselves. 373 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,160 So whoever had taken this cup would be under even more pressure now. 374 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,000 Not just from the Yard, but from fellow criminals, 375 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000 because the last thing they want is a load of coppers turning up, 376 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,680 smashing their doors down 377 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,160 and arresting them for all the other stuff that they're up to. 378 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,560 Betchley denied nicking it, 379 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,840 saying he was acting as a middleman. 380 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,880 And to be fair, he didn't exactly match the ID. 381 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,680 But he did say he knew where it was. 382 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,240 So if somehow, word could get out, 383 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,360 like through his solicitor, 384 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,840 then maybe the trophy could magically reappear. 385 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,360 And then maybe Betchley could get an easy ride in court. 386 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,280 I don't think my father would have been involved in anything illegal. 387 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,200 I think he had licence to do 388 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,600 whatever deal was needed to get the cup back. 389 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,560 He was acting for Betchley. Betchley had been accused of stealing it. 390 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,560 That's what my father was acting for, as his solicitor. 391 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,960 It turning up seemed like an open secret. 392 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,360 Even the press knew! 393 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,200 As it happened, it took far less than 48 hours for it to appear. 394 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,840 Thanks to a man who worked on the docks, and his canine friend. 395 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,000 Woof! 396 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,320 It's probably all most people remember about it. 397 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:46,120 The World Cup gets stolen, Pickles the dog finds it. 398 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,920 I was just going out to make a phone call to me brother. 399 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,560 There was a phone box across the road, 400 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,840 so I said to my wife, 401 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,080 I'll take the dog out for a walk while I'm doing it". 402 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,600 So I said, "Come on, Pix, let's go". 403 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,080 You know, every dog wants to go out. 404 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,560 A neighbour's car was parked there, 405 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,240 and he went over to the car. 406 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,880 He was sniffing around here and I saw the parcel. 407 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,360 He's sniffing this newspaper-wrapped package. 408 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,440 What the hell's that? 409 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,320 It's about that size, so... 410 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:31,640 Picked it, I felt it was very weighty. 411 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,640 I pulled a bit off. 412 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,760 And I could see the top of the statue. 413 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,520 And I looked back and I seen, "Brazil '62", 414 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,040 and that's what sort of clicked in me mind. 415 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,040 And, of course, you know, being a football fan, 416 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,600 and front-page news and TV... 417 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,360 I went... 418 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,240 .."I think this is the World Cup! 419 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,120 On Sunday, 27th March, 420 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,640 exactly a week after the trophy was nicked, 421 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,160 a mutt called Pickles sniffed it out in his front garden. 422 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,200 How bleedin' British! 423 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:12,160 So Corbett jumped in his motor 424 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,920 and ended up at the Gipsy Hill police station. 425 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,640 I still got me slippers on! 426 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,760 I only went across the road to do a quick phone call. 427 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,640 And I just pull up and jump out, 428 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,360 push through the doors. 429 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,160 HE PANTS BREATHLESSLY 430 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,560 Bosh! 431 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,160 I said... 432 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,320 "I think I've found the World Cup". 433 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,480 "Hmm." And he's, 434 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,760 "Doesn't look very World Cuppy to me, sonny". 435 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,280 After a few checks, they decided that actually, 436 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,040 it did look World Cuppy. 437 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,720 And that's when the questioning really started. 438 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,040 I'm being interviewed and then it strikes to me... 439 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,720 Oh! 440 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,160 I'm going to be number-one suspect, ain't I? 441 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,920 The summer of '66. 442 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,920 A golden time for any England fan. 443 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,080 The final of the World Cup. 444 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,880 But we're not there yet. 445 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,600 We've only just got the cup back! 446 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,520 That was thanks to Dave Corbett and his dog. 447 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,280 But what tends to happen when you hand something in that everyone's been looking for 448 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,560 is that people start to think that you're the reason it went missing. 449 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,680 No-one's contacted me at all about the award. 450 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,800 Everything else, but nothing about the reward money. 451 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,120 I told them what happened, how I found it and all that, 452 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,400 but from going back home, 453 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,280 for the next two to three weeks, 454 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,040 they was round every other day 455 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,400 asking me this question, 456 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,880 "Do you know this person? Do you know that person? 457 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,960 "Have you been here? Have you been there?" 458 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,360 HE SIGHS DEEPLY 459 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,200 To be fair, you can see why. 460 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,120 Corbett worked on the docks, 461 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,120 just like the bloke in custody, Ted Betchley had once done. 462 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,000 And they were both south London boys. 463 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,000 But Corbett checked out. 464 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,600 And as a reward, he pocketed over 100 grand in today's money. 465 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,720 Money enough to buy himself a new gaff! 466 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,240 Lucky, lucky bastard! 467 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,400 And Pickles? He became a national hero. 468 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,120 Pickles, the 14-month-old mongrel, found fame 469 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,200 when he sniffed out the missing World Cup. 470 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,120 But for the suddenly world-famous pooch, 471 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,680 there's more glamour to follow. 472 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,480 He's been signed up to appear in a film. The title? 473 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,880 The Spy with a Cold Nose. 474 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:03,280 The owner was lucky to have that dog. 475 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,000 Made a fortune out of that dog. 476 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,800 Got fame out of that dog. 477 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,240 It was paraded around on TV. 478 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,800 Became the most famous dog of its time. 479 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,360 Well, this is Pickles. 480 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,160 He didn't come when his master called, 481 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,320 so Mr Corbett went to see what Pickles was doing. 482 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:22,800 It's like Lassie meets the Italian Job, 483 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,000 meets some kind of Ealing comedy. 484 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,760 It's just too perfect for the reporters. 485 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,440 We love shaggy dog stories, 486 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,120 and it just shifted the entire focus away. 487 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,400 And you stopped thinking about the incompetence 488 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,400 and the daft things that had gone on earlier. 489 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,320 All of a sudden, it turns what was a disaster into a triumph! 490 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,320 The PM had thought his days were numbered, 491 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:51,360 then the cup turned up before the election. 492 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,480 What a lucky boy! 493 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,040 In the end, Harold Wilson was smiles all round. 494 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,440 That little wave of almost euphoria, relief, happiness, 495 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,480 which you want to go into the polls. It actually helped him. 496 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,080 So joy for Labour and gloom and doom for the Conservatives. 497 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:08,800 He came out with a 98-seat majority. 498 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,240 Bigger than Boris Johnson got in 2019. 499 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,840 Pickles did him proud. 500 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,600 Around that time, Ted Betchley was at Bow Street Magistrates. 501 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,400 Betchley was facing charges of stealing the cup and ransoming it. 502 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,880 Back then, this could have meant a life sentence. 503 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,960 What he got was two years, with the theft charge dropped. 504 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,040 That lawyer, Freddie Baldwin, must have done one hell of a job. 505 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,720 The British legal system doesn't do plea deals. 506 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,960 Perhaps in the 1960s, things were a little bit... 507 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,240 a little bit less black and white. 508 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,600 Perhaps they just wanted to get a conviction and move on. 509 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,400 I think the reason my father got him quite a short sentence was, 510 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,960 I think there was a deal going on 511 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,880 behind the scenes to get the cup back, 512 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,080 again, because it was such a huge embarrassment 513 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,120 to everybody all round. 514 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,560 After Betchley's trial, the question of who stole the World Cup 515 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,240 was forgotten. 516 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,000 Life was back to normal. 517 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,720 Well, as normal as it can be when England are about to face Germany 518 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,480 in a World Cup final. 519 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,080 The trophy had turned up and someone was doing time. 520 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Even though the time he was doing wasn't for lifting it. 521 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,720 The Old Bill hadn't even spoken of anyone matching 522 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,800 the description they'd put out. 523 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,880 But they ignored these minor details and settled down for the football. 524 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,680 Police interest in the investigation was suspiciously brief. 525 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,240 And once that trophy was returned, they didn't really want to know. 526 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,000 You would have thought when you've lost the Jules Rimet trophy, 527 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,240 the World Cup has been stolen and the world 528 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,600 has been looking at you, laughing at you, mocking you, 529 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,080 you'd really want to nail who did that? 530 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,360 But they didn't. 531 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,160 They'd got the trophy back, they weren't really interested 532 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,320 in anything else. 533 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,880 And I think they wanted very much to brush the embarrassment, 534 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,560 embarrassing story under the carpet as quickly as they could. 535 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,640 We got the trophy back, now let's deal with that. 536 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480 The purpose now is to make sure it doesn't happen again. 537 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,600 You're going to have to repeat that... 538 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,640 ..to make sure it doesn't happen again. 539 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,640 Now, that sounds pretty obvious, but what lengths do you think 540 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,840 the suits at the FA, Scotland Yard and Westminster would go to 541 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,800 to make sure it didn't happen again? 542 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,200 Well, let's see... 543 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,320 The final of the World Cup. 544 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,640 The cream of the world's players battle for the honour 545 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,560 of playing on this arena on this afternoon. 546 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,280 We all know this part! 547 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,200 England took the lead in extra time thanks to the linesman. 548 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,960 He's called Tofiq Bahramov, by the way, 549 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,000 and as a stadium named after him in Azerbaijan. 550 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,720 But I digress... 551 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,440 Hurst scored another... 552 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,000 Bobby lifted the cup... 553 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,320 ..and Nobby Stiles danced across the pitch holding it. 554 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,440 What a time to be alive. 555 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,280 They then showed it off at a posh hotel in Kensington. 556 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,920 Well, they showed off something? 557 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,400 That morning, a young PC and two other coppers 558 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,240 had been sent to FA HQ. 559 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,640 We walked into the office on cup final day... 560 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000 ..and on the desk were two boxes. 561 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,080 And this is the real trophy that was one, he opened it up. 562 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,920 And we've had a replica made. 563 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,480 You're just taking it in, really, you don't ask questions, 564 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,960 you're taking it in, and this is what you're going to do, 565 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,960 we want you to take these two with you today. 566 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,640 You get to the stadium, you give the real one... 567 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,360 ..to the stadium security... 568 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,760 And you retain the replica with you all the time. 569 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,440 And after the game, we want you to switch them. 570 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,640 You bleedin' what? 571 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,520 So those were the lengths the powers that be would go to! 572 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,320 Jesus, Mary and Jimmy Greaves. 573 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,600 We stayed with the replica throughout, in the tunnel. 574 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,560 We were standing by the side of the tunnel 575 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,280 when the players walked by me. 576 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,520 That's what just took you over, really, and you just... 577 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,200 ..washed over everything with excitement. 578 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,960 There was no plan. 579 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,880 There was nothing, nothing like that at all. 580 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,280 It was up to you, use your initiative. 581 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,400 It wasn't until it actually disappeared into the dressing room 582 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,200 area, that then the decision was, you go and get it. 583 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,240 So that was the case, go and get the trophy out of the wooden box. 584 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,640 And I walked into the dressing room with it under my tunic. 585 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,000 Luckily, dear old Nobby was sitting there, 586 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,600 glazed eyes, bless him. 587 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,880 We'll have that, you have this. 588 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,040 And that's how it was, so I just turned with the real trophy, 589 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,760 under my tunic, out the door, into the car. 590 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,000 We'd done what we wanted to do. 591 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,680 In the dressing room and later at the dinner and on the balcony 592 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,800 of the hotel in front of the fans. 593 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080 They haven't got the trophy they've just won. 594 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,880 They've got a replica that was made in case the stolen World Cup 595 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,320 was never found. 596 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,320 I think it showed incredible disrespect 597 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,800 for the players and actually the watching fans and public. 598 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,360 It's an incredible deceit. 599 00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:35,880 Any picture you've seen of English players holding the Cup 600 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,440 after it had left the dressing room, that trophy is a fake. 601 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,800 The real one didn't leave a police safe until they added it 602 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,880 to Mexico for the next tournament in 1970. 603 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,640 It's incredible, it's an incredible tale. 604 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,400 But of course, it's not the full tale. 605 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,360 The full tale means knowing who actually nicked it. 606 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,400 It wasn't Betchley who was banged up, 607 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,800 it wasn't security guard, Mclarens, or Pickles' owner Corbett. 608 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,720 Who was the five foot ten fella with black hair 609 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,480 and a sallow complexion? 610 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,320 More than 50 years later, his identity 611 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680 would finally be revealed. 612 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:27,480 # What's your name? 613 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,160 # What's your name? 614 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,520 # What's your name? 615 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:40,400 # Shooby-do ba-ba-da #. 616 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,760 I'm the crime editor at the Daily Mirror. 617 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,320 For my job, part of it is speaking to people trying to build trust 618 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,640 in relationships with people. 619 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,040 And slowly but surely, you can sometimes start to find things 620 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,200 that have never been revealed. 621 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:14,040 I've been told by sources the identity of the man 622 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,680 that stole the World Cup. 623 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,880 The source said that it was a man called Sidney Coo, who came 624 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,640 from the Walworth Road area. 625 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,960 So that was what I had to go on. 626 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,040 I went through all the newspaper cuttings and started going back 627 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,040 through the National Archives just to look at the story 628 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,400 of the World Cup and through all the police files, just to gather 629 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,160 as much information as I could. 630 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,120 The name didn't come up, but Sidney Q's manner did. 631 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,440 Most of this story played out in South London. 632 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,560 And where was Walworth Road? 633 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,640 Correctamundo. 634 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,200 It just added to my belief that this tip off had a lot to it. 635 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:04,080 But the more I looked at it, the more I thought it was true, 636 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,360 the more I became obsessed. 637 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,880 But even after some more digging, the name didn't show up. 638 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,960 So Pettifor did what all good reporters do when they get 639 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,280 themselves in a bind... 640 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,760 Resort to social media. 641 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,680 One evening I was sitting down, I checked my messages 642 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:26,280 and there was a message saying "This must be Sidney Cugullere." 643 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,160 C-U-G-U-L-L-E-R-E. 644 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,120 Cugullere, that is one hell of a name. 645 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,920 When I did searches through the birth records, I found 646 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,560 that he'd been born in 1926 in Woolworth, that he was the eighth 647 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,560 of nine children, and he'd lived in real poverty. 648 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,520 He'd been jailed in the early '60s for stealing mail bags. 649 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,920 Released in 1964, so crucially, he was free at the time and living 650 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,440 in the Walworth Road area in 1966. 651 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,320 A crook? Yes. 652 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,600 From South London? Yes. 653 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,680 In his late 30s in 66? 654 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:15,640 Also, yes. 655 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,800 This was certainly looking like our trophy lifter. 656 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,920 Now, if Cugullere had nicked it and Betchley ransomed it, 657 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,600 they must have known each other, right? 658 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,240 If only there were something or someone to show 659 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,320 that they were connected, like solicitor, Freddie Baldwin. 660 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,320 So South London's finest legal brain had represented both of them. 661 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,440 Coincidence? Coincidence my... 662 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,680 He was well known to my father and my father had acted for him. 663 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:48,400 He was a regular in the office in Jamaica Road. 664 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,960 He was always popping in for cups of tea, so the whole thing 665 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,720 fitted quite well with him, Cugullere and Bletchley. 666 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,000 All Pettifor needed now was someone who knew Sid, and who knew 667 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,080 what he used to get up to. 668 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,200 Specifically on say the 20th of March 1966? 669 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,440 With a name like Cugullere, it didn't take long to find someone. 670 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,240 I open the door and there's this lad standing there. 671 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,880 I said, "Hello, how can I help you?" 672 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,560 And he said, "I'm from the Mirror newspaper." 673 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,720 He said, "Do you know anything about the World Cup?" 674 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,880 I burst out laughing, my wife burst out laughing, 675 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,240 so I couldn't really hide it. 676 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,800 And he said, "Would you mind telling us the story?" 677 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,200 Sidney was my uncle, my dad's brother. 678 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,360 My dad was called Reg and Reg and Sid were brought up 679 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,480 on Walworth Road. 680 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,000 Times were really tough on them. 681 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,440 They started off stealing at a very young age. 682 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,600 Sid kind of looked after my dad. 683 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,680 Sid was a... As he got his name, Mr Crafty, 684 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:01,960 but he was the crafty one. 685 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,240 So did he pitch the bleedin' thing or what? 686 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,200 It was my uncle Sidney Cugullere, who stole the World Cup. 687 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,920 They told me they didn't actually go to steal the World Cup. 688 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,840 If they were asked to do a job for someone, 689 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,320 for a certain amount of money, they'd go and do it. 690 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,600 So they went there to steal the stamps. 691 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,600 They were going to weigh the job up, see what's what, 692 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,680 where everything was, go back, steal them. 693 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,200 Well, Sid picked the lock, spotted the World Cup, 694 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:43,320 put it under his jacket and walked out. 695 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,080 "Come on, Reg, let's go." 696 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,320 Just a spur of the moment thing. 697 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,040 As they got out of the place, he opened his jacket and he said, 698 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,880 "Here, Reg, look at this." 699 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,720 And my dad looked at him and he went, 700 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,160 "What the fucking hell do you think we're going to do with that?" 701 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,960 So there you have it. 702 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,520 More than 50 years after its theft and after a ten month investigation 703 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,040 by a Daily Mirror journo, we know who hoisted the World Cup. 704 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,160 Sidney 'Mr Crafty Bastard' Cugullere. 705 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,600 Him and his brother, Reg, they were pretty proud of that pinch. 706 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,520 I was about, I think, 16, and I remember him telling me 707 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,560 and my mum come in and went, "Reg, stop it, enough's enough." 708 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,520 And then he'd tell me a bit more. 709 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,000 And then Sid would say something and the story 710 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,400 sort of grew from there. 711 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,280 With all those bedtime stories, we also know about the little trip 712 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,720 the trophy took while it was missing. 713 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,200 After he stole it, apparently he took it back to his house 714 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,400 just off the Walworth Road, where he lived with his wife, Nell. 715 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,440 And he put it on the mantelpiece and said to her, "Look, darling, 716 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,200 "I've got you this lovely decorative cup." 717 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:12,360 The police think the cup was stolen from its case here at about... 718 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,640 And then later in the day, the theft of the cup came on the news. 719 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,840 The story goes, Nell saw it and said, "What the fuck are you doing? 720 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,440 "You've just stolen the World Cup, get that out of my house, 721 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,120 "you bastard." 722 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,480 Sidney realises obviously that he's got himself into a bit 723 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,480 of a sticky situation. 724 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,320 And him and his brother Reg decide to take the cup up to Reggie's 725 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,560 father in law's house in Luton. 726 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,760 And then apparently they're stopped on the way by the police 727 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,400 who have a look at them and decide to let them go. 728 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,920 Too hot to keep, they stashed it in the father-in-law's cold bunker. 729 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,920 And after they find out it wasn't actually solid gold, 730 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,880 it made its journey back to South London. 731 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,880 And was dumped outside Dave Corbett's gaff. 732 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,760 One of Corbett's neighbours even spotted someone looking like Sid 733 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,720 a day or two before it was found. 734 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,320 Visiting an old friend, was he? 735 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,560 He come from Walworth didn't he? 736 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,200 I wouldn't go near Walworth, oh, dead... 737 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:27,400 Oh, no, oh, that's a no-go area for us lot down there. 738 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,040 Yeah. 739 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,960 The pickle story, I think, is... 740 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,320 Is, yeah, it's a good story. 741 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,040 It's what happened. 742 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,440 So, I mean, lucky dog, but... 743 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,000 Yeah. 744 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,400 If only Pickles could explain what went on. 745 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,520 But he's buried outside the house Corbett bought 746 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,520 with the reward money. 747 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,960 He couldn't talk either, to be fair. 748 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,960 The only thing he didn't like was cats. 749 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,840 And that was his downfall. 750 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,120 Pickles met a rather unfortunate end. 751 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,120 A year after finding the trophy he's chased a cat up a tree 752 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,000 and strangled himself with his lead. 753 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,400 Poor bastard. 754 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,800 This dog changed my life completely. 755 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,720 He was... 756 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,560 He was not only a friend... 757 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,760 He was... 758 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,200 He was... 759 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,840 And, he give me... 760 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,960 ..this house and my future. 761 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,720 He changed my future completely. 762 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:55,400 Sidney Cugullere died in 2005, aged 79. 763 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,880 He even at a nice little Jules Rimet style flower arrangement 764 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,800 at his send-off. 765 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,440 Sid always used to brag that he was the first Englishman 766 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,920 to lift the World Cup, yeah. 767 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,120 During his life, Sid was sentenced to over 20 years of jail time. 768 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,400 This theft set off a chain of events more unlikely than the plot 769 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,840 of a London gangster film. 770 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,800 The whole story is completely bizarre and just 771 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,960 unbelievable, really. 772 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,080 It was a farce, the whole thing should never happened. 773 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,760 If you take it too seriously, it would do your brain, 774 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,920 because you think, No, that's nonsense. 775 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,600 You couldn't make it up, really. 776 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:38,040 Victory or snatched from the jaws of defeat with a dog, Pickles. 777 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,840 So what happened to the cup then? 778 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,520 Well, after Brazil won it for the third time, 779 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,000 they got to keep it. 780 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,640 The beautiful trophy went off to Brazil. 781 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,560 And then in 1983 it was stolen. 782 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,160 During the night there was an armed robbery and it disappeared. 783 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400 And it's never been seen since. 784 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,600 Maybe we'll find out who pulled that job off in another 50 years. 785 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,080 # Dirty old river 786 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,280 # Must you keep rolling 787 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,680 # Rolling into the night...# 788 00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,640 Subtitles by Red Bee Media 64742

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