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Ladies and gentlemen, this
is your 15-minute call.
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Fifteen minutes, please,
to the top of Act 1.
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The stage is available.
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Thank you.
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Toi, toi, ladies.
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It's gonna be
amazing. Have fun.
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Thanks for everything, Rob.
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Thank you.
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We're gonna be
really fucking good.
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I have no doubt. I am pumped.
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Yeah, as you should be.
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No, like, we're
ready, we're there.
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Yeah.
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It's gonna be great. Have fun.
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Will you read it to us?
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"Dear dancers.
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"Thank you for all
of your hard work,
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"creativity, and
brilliant dancing.
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"It has been a
privilege and a pleasure
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"creating this ballet with you.
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"Sincerely, Rob."
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"Thank you for being so
responsive and adaptive
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"to the 35 million changes
we've made to this ballet
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- "in the last three months."
- In the last two days!
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Yeah!
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"Thank you for all the
stress you've endured
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"and for all the
tears you've cried.
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"They mean a lot to me."
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Thank you for joining us
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for the world premiere of our
new production of Swan Lake.
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You know, the announcement
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of the new season and so forth,
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I think... personally,
I think we all know
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that it's likely that
we're gonna cancel
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the March and June season as
they're currently announced,
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and I think we need to
make that announcement
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sooner than December.
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I know we had always
sort of targeted
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the beginning of December,
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but I think for a
variety of reasons,
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it's too hard...
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Well, here's the thing.
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We had just done
Swan Lake at the Met,
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and I had danced
with Rudolf Nureyev,
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and he said, "Come
with me, come with me.
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"We go party, we go party."
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I'm doing a terrible,
terrible imitation of him!
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No, I love it.
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So, he has this limo
take us over there.
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And he takes me up, we
go up in this elevator
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in this fancy building,
and the door opens,
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and it's packed full of people.
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There's bowls of cocaine
on the tables, and caviar,
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and people... there's every
rock star you've ever...
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it's a zoo!
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I am wandering through this,
no... like I'm in a movie.
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I'm just wandering
through this place.
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And I meet Andy and he says,
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"She looks like an angel."
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And, um...
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So I waited there, and he asked
me to put my hands like this,
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and he mumbled and he
walked all around me,
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and he took pictures
from all angles,
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and he disappeared.
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And that was it.
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I just hated it.
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I just was like, "Oh,
all that glitter, ugh!"
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You know? Like...
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Karen Kain is one of the biggest
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international ballet stars ever,
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like up there with
Rudolf Nureyev
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and Margot Fonteyn.
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She is completely a legend.
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When I go work in Russia,
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still the only ballet
name they know is
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"Karen Kain."
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She's beloved.
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She's like the Princess
Diana of Canada.
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Everything that woman
touches turns to gold,
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whether it's performing or
being an artistic director.
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This year was a culmination
of so many things,
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for me personally and for the
National Ballet of Canada.
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But 50 years with the company,
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in my capacity as a dancer
and then artistic director,
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it's really time
for me to retire.
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We needed a new Swan
Lake, and I thought,
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"I want to try to find
the courage to do this."
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That, some fan gave me
and I don't like it.
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But I didn't know what to do
with it, so I stuck it up there.
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I am directing for
the first time.
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I admit that I
have no experience,
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but I guess I felt that at
this point in my career,
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if I felt this strongly
about this ballet,
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this would be the
only time I would ever
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have a chance to do it.
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I have to feel just so...
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brave, going forward to do this.
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I-I...
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It has to be a success.
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It has to be.
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Thank you for calling
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the National Ballet.
This is Karen Kain.
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Our offices are now closed.
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Please listen carefully, as
some of our voicemail options
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have recently changed...
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So, every ballet company,
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we have a hierarchy from
apprentices, or junior company,
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to corps de ballet, to
demi-soloist, to a soloist,
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to a first soloist, and
principal ballerina,
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and then so-called étoile,
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or internationally
acclaimed dancer
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that travels around the
world as a guest ballerina.
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So, um, I think I've been
fortunate in my career
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to be the... the...
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the principal ballerina
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and internationally acclaimed
ballerina worldwide.
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This will be my tenth different
production of Swan Lake.
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Swan Lake is the ballet
I have performed the most
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around the world.
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Swan Lake has definitely been
always somehow my ballet,
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so, um, I do expect to
dance as Swan Queen.
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Oh.
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See?
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You can't hold the horse back.
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What did he tell you?
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- What did you tell them?
- Just say "yes."
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In general, in
the Western world,
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I mean especially here,
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in everything is so many
activities for kids, right?
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I didn't grow up with that.
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I grew up with just,
like, if you do something,
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you do it seriously,
not as a hobby.
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I had to fight for everything.
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From the first day of even
getting the ballet school,
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I had to even fight for that.
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When I look back how I started,
I just could never even imagine
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that this is the life
I would be living.
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Oh, that was hard!
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I love Swan Lake.
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I mean, it's just a
classic, you know?
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The only thing I
want in my whole life
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is to be a principal dancer.
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But I'm not, like,
at that level...
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yet, so...
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I will be the nice, like,
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30-second duck in the
back of the stage.
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Okay, Google, how's the weather?
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Currently in Toronto,
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it's 62 degrees
and mostly sunny.
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There's Cheez-Its in here
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if you guys want any
morning Cheez-Its.
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Okay, Google, what
does it all mean?
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Just kidding. It
can't tell me.
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According to Google Books,
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should the hard questions
of philosophy matter
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to ordinary people?
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In this down-to-earth,
non-historical guide...
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I was born in
Nacogdoches, Texas.
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Very Bible Belt.
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Maybe not white
trash, but eggshell!
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You were an Army brat, right?
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Yeah!
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Still am.
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My whole wall in my
bedroom was, like,
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plastered with ballet pictures,
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just, like, from top to bottom.
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I didn't, like, give
myself another option.
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I was just like, "I'm going
to be a ballet dancer."
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I will always be hoping that
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somebody is gonna see
something good in me, you know?
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Um, but it's...
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not really that simple.
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It's been more than two years
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that we've been talking
about Swan Lake, and...
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I think in my mind, just to
make it easier for myself,
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I just kind of let
it go, thinking,
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"It's not gonna happen."
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I can't believe we're
finally getting to do this.
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The stop-and-start,
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the excitement and
the disappointment.
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The first thing is to
take off the cat sneakers
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and put on the dance sneakers.
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There are Swan Lakes
all over the world
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and they're danced beautifully,
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but I'm tired of
looking at things
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that are academic exercises.
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I want to be moved.
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It's theatre...
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You know? I want to cry.
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The music starts, it's the
key for me to everything.
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I hear the music...
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my body can remember everything.
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I can feel the
coordination inside...
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and can remember every
step on every note...
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that you haven't even thought
about for so many years.
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But it's still there, in
some part of your brain.
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It's still there.
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Ayano?
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How're you doing?
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Good. What do you want to do?
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Yeah, yeah. No,
we should go slow.
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How's your foot?
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Good, good.
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How's it feeling?
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Yeah?
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So, we will do Leighlynn 16,
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Monika 17, Shae 18,
Jackie 19, Maya...
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Maya 20, uh,
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Jeannine 21, Jenna 22,
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Tene 23, and Kate 24.
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All good?
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Come on!
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The first meeting we had,
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Karen just sat me down and
said, "Okay, I need your help.
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"I need you to make
sure that young people
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"aren't gonna think
this is stupid."
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Which is at once,
like, a very simple
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and very difficult
brief to be given.
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I've never considered myself
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a choreographer.
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I knew that I needed someone
who could actually choreograph
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the new sections.
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Robert Binet is a wonderful
young choreographer,
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and I think he can do
some amazing formations
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with the swans, making it
a little more of today.
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Five, a-six, other one...
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One-a-two, three-and-a-four,
five-a-six, seven, eight.
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Now we're crossing
to get to two lines.
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Five, six, seven, eight...
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Go one-a-two, three-a-four,
five-a-six, seven-a-eight.
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One, two...
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Any time you go
and see the ballet,
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so, for example, Swan Lake,
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and you see all
the swans on stage,
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that's the corps.
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It means the body
of the company.
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I don't think you really
can have a beautiful ballet
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without the corps.
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One-a-two, three-a-four...
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go, Jeannine...
five-a-six, seven-a...
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that's gonna look better.
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Being part of the
corps de ballet
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means that you are just
full-throttle all the time.
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You are in every single show.
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Arielle, move
forwards a little bit.
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I was just, like, dying.
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Like, my arm felt like
it was gonna fall off.
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They think you're doing it,
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and then they're
like, "No, uh, hmm,"
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and then they start
picking it apart.
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Space for your head,
Erin, and your elbow.
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The arm extension, the hand...
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There's so many details that
go into, like, just to stand.
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Good, that's rhythm, ladies!
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Good!
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Like, and corps work is
not always about, like,
257
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pulling your dick out and
doing 12 pirouettes, you know?
258
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It's literally like, "Oh,"
like, "Can you please stand
259
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"on that mark that we
told you 17 times?"
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Keep the arms moving...
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Better!
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Up!
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Down!
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Up!
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That unison, the
duration, the stillness...
266
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So many things that are
so difficult about ballet,
267
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that make ballet so beautiful
to watch, are in that ballet.
268
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And if I go to see Swan
Lake, it's for the corps.
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Every damn hand of
the corps de ballet
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better be exactly where
everyone else's damn hand is
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in the corps de ballet.
272
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If they're not together,
I get really cranky.
273
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So, and one, and
two, and a-three,
274
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and a-four, and a-five.
275
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- It wasn't together at all.
- It was just visual before.
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Working on Swan Lake, you know,
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all the formations
have to be perfect,
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and they have to
resolve perfectly
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with the tallest
people in the back
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and the shortest
people in the front.
281
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You know, it doesn't matter how
good the principal dancer is.
282
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If the corps de ballet around
them is a mess, the show's bad.
283
00:17:07,818 --> 00:17:12,197
And that's something Karen
is really adamant about,
284
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that, like, the corps de
ballet level has to be so high.
285
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Let's try that
same section again.
286
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Thank you, ladies.
287
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So, in terms of casting,
288
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well, we've got
first cast Jurgita,
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Harrison with Jurgita, and
then Brendan with Heather,
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and then we've got Guillaume,
Naoya, Donald, Chris.
291
00:17:52,821 --> 00:17:57,034
And then understudying with
have both Ben and Siphe.
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The principal dancer
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who dances Odette and Odile,
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the White Swan and
the Black Swan,
295
00:18:03,081 --> 00:18:05,709
has to have a huge
number of qualities
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because they demand
completely different things.
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This kind of dichotomy of
this beautiful, gentle,
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spiritual White Swan,
299
00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:20,933
and then this cunning
and seductive Black Swan,
300
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it's a very demanding role.
301
00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:27,439
That's why people really want
to test themselves against it.
302
00:18:28,690 --> 00:18:31,485
Well, and if I could work
with Jurgita on, like,
303
00:18:31,568 --> 00:18:34,363
incidental Odette stuff, it
would be great to have time,
304
00:18:34,446 --> 00:18:36,240
'cause she's our
first cast, to, like,
305
00:18:36,323 --> 00:18:37,866
experiment and
play with the mime
306
00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:40,202
and how she's gonna do
the whole crown, and...
307
00:18:40,285 --> 00:18:43,205
Yeah, and she's got so many
other versions in her head.
308
00:18:43,288 --> 00:18:45,582
- Yeah, she'll have ideas.
- But I don't...
309
00:18:45,666 --> 00:18:47,751
I don't want to do
those other versions.
310
00:18:47,835 --> 00:18:49,002
- No.
- I might!
311
00:18:49,086 --> 00:18:50,629
I might. She
might convince me.
312
00:18:50,712 --> 00:18:53,549
- Yeah.
- She's very convincing.
313
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- This was okay, I think.
- Mm-hm.
314
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And pendulum up and down...
315
00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:05,978
and this one's down.
Down, down, down...
316
00:19:06,061 --> 00:19:08,230
I think just step...
step is not enough,
317
00:19:08,313 --> 00:19:10,232
but I think you
might need a little,
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00:19:10,315 --> 00:19:12,609
"Dee, dee, dah,
dah, dah," run, run.
319
00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:14,486
Because you used to
do this right away,
320
00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:15,696
"dee, dah, dah, dah"...
321
00:19:15,779 --> 00:19:18,156
We didn't have the temps
levés, and I think that...
322
00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:27,749
Now you go.
323
00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:29,042
That's it.
324
00:19:29,126 --> 00:19:31,962
Well, the impact of
the first cast matters,
325
00:19:32,045 --> 00:19:34,506
because it's, you know,
the moment where...
326
00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:37,801
where the production's unveiled.
327
00:19:41,388 --> 00:19:43,974
Um...
328
00:19:44,057 --> 00:19:46,894
Everything.
329
00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:49,187
Jurgita, you know when
you... before you start
330
00:19:49,271 --> 00:19:52,399
to come to him for the first
time, don't run so far.
331
00:19:52,482 --> 00:19:53,525
- Okay.
- You know?
332
00:19:53,609 --> 00:19:55,277
I'm trying to get to the centre,
333
00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:57,613
so the girls are
around and I see them
334
00:19:57,696 --> 00:19:58,864
being in this position.
335
00:19:58,947 --> 00:20:02,492
Oh, okay, well, then
I'll see with everyone.
336
00:20:02,576 --> 00:20:05,996
Me and Karen, we're very
different ballerinas.
337
00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:09,249
It's definitely going to
be interesting, of... of...
338
00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:11,835
what she wants to see,
339
00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:15,839
and how can I make it mine.
340
00:20:15,923 --> 00:20:18,717
Are you... are you saying
that I insisted on that?
341
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,802
No, no, no, this is the
right what we agreed.
342
00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:21,887
This is what we did.
343
00:20:21,970 --> 00:20:23,197
It's lovely. Let's leave it.
344
00:20:23,221 --> 00:20:24,306
Okay, alright.
345
00:20:24,389 --> 00:20:25,742
We're not gonna
change it. Go back.
346
00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:26,642
Okay.
347
00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:28,077
I know what it's like.
348
00:20:28,101 --> 00:20:30,395
Once you've got it figured
out, and it works for you,
349
00:20:30,479 --> 00:20:32,314
and you've been
successful a certain way,
350
00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:34,566
you... you wanna do that.
351
00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:36,401
And I wanted it a
little different.
352
00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:38,725
It wasn't a lot different,
but it was a little different.
353
00:20:38,779 --> 00:20:40,530
Jurgita...
354
00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:43,116
Why don't you
bravely try doubles?
355
00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:46,912
Well, rond a little more.
356
00:20:46,995 --> 00:20:49,164
Just rond a little...
relax your knee.
357
00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:52,167
Are you?
358
00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:55,128
It looks like a
really good single.
359
00:20:55,212 --> 00:20:58,674
Okay, just think, "In, in, up!"
360
00:20:58,757 --> 00:21:00,259
No, it can't be on the floor.
361
00:21:00,342 --> 00:21:03,011
Nobody... nobody in the
world does them on the floor.
362
00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:07,015
- Up, up...
- Brush, in, in, up.
363
00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:08,725
In, in, up.
364
00:21:08,809 --> 00:21:10,435
One second.
365
00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:12,079
It's just doing
them quick enough
366
00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:13,855
that you don't
knock yourself over.
367
00:21:13,939 --> 00:21:16,149
If you do them slow,
it takes too much time.
368
00:21:17,734 --> 00:21:20,028
And one, that's it!
369
00:21:20,112 --> 00:21:22,823
And one...
370
00:21:22,906 --> 00:21:24,533
One...
371
00:21:29,871 --> 00:21:31,748
- This is what I like.
- Yeah.
372
00:21:31,832 --> 00:21:33,250
Yeah, this is...
373
00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:35,168
this is exactly right,
what they're doing.
374
00:21:35,252 --> 00:21:37,796
I don't know what everybody is
doing, but that's exactly...
375
00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:39,047
This is what I like.
376
00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:40,841
This is what I like too.
377
00:21:40,924 --> 00:21:42,884
Want to do your solo?
You have four minutes.
378
00:21:42,968 --> 00:21:44,177
I just wanna do the beginning.
379
00:21:44,261 --> 00:21:45,637
Okay.
380
00:21:45,721 --> 00:21:47,556
Okay, yeah.
381
00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:49,141
And...
382
00:21:57,983 --> 00:22:01,319
Jurgita Dronina...
383
00:22:01,403 --> 00:22:03,003
She's kind of extraordinary.
384
00:22:03,030 --> 00:22:05,115
Well, she's a pretty
major ballerina.
385
00:22:05,198 --> 00:22:07,492
She's an animal! Like,
she eats the stage.
386
00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:10,412
People all over the
world know who she is.
387
00:22:10,495 --> 00:22:12,039
When she's on the stage, like,
388
00:22:12,122 --> 00:22:14,624
you can fucking, like, feel.
389
00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:16,793
She used to do a performance
390
00:22:16,877 --> 00:22:18,920
of Sugar Plum Fairy in
the Nutcracker here,
391
00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:21,673
go to the airport, get on
a night flight to London...
392
00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:22,924
In the makeup still...
393
00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:24,718
Get off the plane,
go to the theatre...
394
00:22:24,801 --> 00:22:26,386
- Warm up...
- Do the show there...
395
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:28,013
Run straight to the airport,
396
00:22:28,096 --> 00:22:30,265
take the flight overnight,
sleep on the flight,
397
00:22:30,348 --> 00:22:31,975
and the next day perform.
398
00:22:32,059 --> 00:22:35,687
Never heard of anyone
else doing that!
399
00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:42,778
I was born in Saratov in Russia.
400
00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:46,156
Our relatives in Lithuania
401
00:22:46,239 --> 00:22:49,034
said that the Soviet Union
was going to collapse.
402
00:22:53,121 --> 00:22:56,458
And we better get back
to Lithuania, ASAP.
403
00:22:56,541 --> 00:22:58,585
She packed the bags.
404
00:22:58,668 --> 00:23:02,339
Soviet Union
collapsed... war, tanks.
405
00:23:02,422 --> 00:23:04,966
That was the
beginning of the end.
406
00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:09,363
By this evening, the
demonstrators outside
407
00:23:09,387 --> 00:23:11,640
the Lubyanka were
beginning to claim Moscow
408
00:23:11,723 --> 00:23:13,558
as their own.
409
00:23:15,644 --> 00:23:18,105
When my father
arrived to Lithuania,
410
00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:20,315
he did not fit in.
411
00:23:20,398 --> 00:23:24,486
Our life changed from
being a normal family
412
00:23:24,569 --> 00:23:29,366
to a very violent
and abusive family.
413
00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:32,994
We lost literally everything.
414
00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:35,997
We lost all the documents;
we lost housing.
415
00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:38,291
We lost everything,
he burned everything.
416
00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:41,545
We were on the street.
417
00:23:41,628 --> 00:23:46,883
And we literally sent
my father away by train,
418
00:23:48,844 --> 00:23:51,179
and we said, "Please
never come back.
419
00:23:51,263 --> 00:23:54,766
"Please promise to
never, ever be back."
420
00:23:56,977 --> 00:23:58,603
And that's when the story came
421
00:23:58,687 --> 00:24:02,440
that I was given a chance
to go to ballet school
422
00:24:02,524 --> 00:24:06,278
and live in the dorm instead.
423
00:24:06,361 --> 00:24:09,614
And have food!
424
00:24:09,698 --> 00:24:13,285
Have electricity, and have
a chance to create a life.
425
00:24:15,829 --> 00:24:18,707
That childhood has
formed her as a mother,
426
00:24:18,790 --> 00:24:21,877
as a wife, and
definitely as a dancer.
427
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,131
You can't hide who you
are when you're on stage,
428
00:24:26,214 --> 00:24:29,509
because she's seen stuff
that, as kids, not many have.
429
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:37,142
It was not just doing a
pink tutu and ribbons dance.
430
00:24:37,225 --> 00:24:40,145
I saw it as a way of living.
431
00:25:40,163 --> 00:25:41,957
We're talking weeks now
432
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,585
before we'd have to start,
you know, distributing tights.
433
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:49,339
And why can't we
just have bare legs?
434
00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:51,258
We can.
435
00:25:51,341 --> 00:25:53,301
I mean, maybe I won't like it,
436
00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,512
but I-I watch it in
contemporary works
437
00:25:55,595 --> 00:25:57,013
and I think it looks fantastic.
438
00:25:57,097 --> 00:25:59,099
I'm only concerned
that we get there
439
00:25:59,182 --> 00:26:00,809
and a week beforehand,
you just think,
440
00:26:00,892 --> 00:26:02,644
"I would love to
see something else,"
441
00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:04,312
and that we didn't
prepare for that.
442
00:26:04,396 --> 00:26:05,647
If you're ready, that's fine.
443
00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:08,191
It's just that I wanted... I
wanted it to look like skin.
444
00:26:08,275 --> 00:26:09,715
I didn't want it to
look like tights.
445
00:26:09,776 --> 00:26:11,837
No, Karen, I want
exactly what you want.
446
00:26:11,861 --> 00:26:13,321
I only worry for you.
447
00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:15,657
I just got worried
about the idea...
448
00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:18,034
In 2020, we had conversations
449
00:26:18,118 --> 00:26:20,495
with the dancers in the company,
450
00:26:20,578 --> 00:26:24,082
and I had no idea that
this was an issue for them,
451
00:26:24,165 --> 00:26:26,835
but I found out
that wearing tights
452
00:26:26,918 --> 00:26:30,046
that weren't their skin
colour bothered them.
453
00:26:30,130 --> 00:26:31,756
It just never occurred to me.
454
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,842
And then I started
thinking, for Swan Lake,
455
00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:36,219
when they're in the
corps de ballet,
456
00:26:36,303 --> 00:26:39,055
they don't have to
all have pink legs.
457
00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:42,100
That's always been
tradition with Swan Lake.
458
00:26:44,978 --> 00:26:48,106
After the murder of
George Floyd in 2020,
459
00:26:48,189 --> 00:26:51,318
if I had to use one word about
460
00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:55,280
what happened within the world
of ballet, it would be fear.
461
00:26:55,363 --> 00:26:58,116
And that was the fear
of being looked at
462
00:26:58,199 --> 00:27:02,787
very, very, very closely.
463
00:27:02,871 --> 00:27:07,000
The world of ballet is
having a very slow reckoning
464
00:27:07,083 --> 00:27:12,714
with its deep, long
problem of racism.
465
00:27:12,797 --> 00:27:15,967
I think Karen was
called on to address
466
00:27:16,051 --> 00:27:19,804
some biases, especially when
it comes to casting and hiring.
467
00:27:19,888 --> 00:27:22,390
Swan Lake, for hundreds
and hundreds of years,
468
00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:25,602
has been all these women
in pink or white tights,
469
00:27:25,685 --> 00:27:27,854
white tutus, looking identical
470
00:27:27,937 --> 00:27:31,733
and, back in Karen's
day, painted white.
471
00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:35,236
Well, certainly, I've
been on a journey, too.
472
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,114
I mean, I was brought
up on the stereotypes
473
00:27:38,198 --> 00:27:42,035
of how dancers are cast.
474
00:27:42,118 --> 00:27:43,721
We have dancers that are Black,
475
00:27:43,745 --> 00:27:45,121
we have people of colour.
476
00:27:45,205 --> 00:27:48,750
So when you wear, like,
white tights or pink tights
477
00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:51,127
and pink shoes, it's
not one long line,
478
00:27:51,211 --> 00:27:54,255
which was the intention.
479
00:27:54,339 --> 00:27:56,257
And it's frustrating
'cause it's like
480
00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:59,594
a sense of impostor syndrome
that you didn't create.
481
00:28:02,639 --> 00:28:03,741
I really want to try it.
482
00:28:03,765 --> 00:28:05,642
I really want to
seriously try it.
483
00:28:05,725 --> 00:28:08,269
Like, even if we go to
the rough dress and do it.
484
00:28:08,353 --> 00:28:10,522
No, but I think
this is a good plan,
485
00:28:10,605 --> 00:28:13,108
and I think we have
to be very clear,
486
00:28:13,191 --> 00:28:15,944
like us with the dancers,
you with the dancers,
487
00:28:16,027 --> 00:28:17,654
that Karen will
make this decision.
488
00:28:17,737 --> 00:28:20,198
Like, nobody gets to say,
"I want to wear tights,
489
00:28:20,281 --> 00:28:21,574
"I don't want to wear tights."
490
00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:23,378
Like, when we're saying
there's two options,
491
00:28:23,451 --> 00:28:24,744
they are Karen's options;
492
00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:26,496
they are not
everybody's options.
493
00:28:26,579 --> 00:28:28,456
Yeah.
494
00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:57,944
Hey, Mom. Do you
have a minute?
495
00:28:58,027 --> 00:29:00,989
I'm doing Odile. Odette/Odile.
496
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,575
I know!
497
00:29:03,658 --> 00:29:04,784
Like, it's official.
498
00:29:04,868 --> 00:29:08,121
I'm learning it with Chris.
499
00:29:08,204 --> 00:29:10,165
I know!
500
00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:11,916
Oh my God!
501
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,002
I... Oh my gosh.
502
00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:17,672
I know, I can't... It
still hasn't processed yet.
503
00:29:17,755 --> 00:29:23,553
Genevieve's the new one
on the block, as they say!
504
00:29:23,636 --> 00:29:26,764
Each cast needs to
rest between shows,
505
00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:28,933
because it's so demanding.
506
00:29:29,017 --> 00:29:30,685
Otherwise they'll get injured.
507
00:29:30,768 --> 00:29:34,272
So you need at least four casts
to even get through one week.
508
00:29:34,355 --> 00:29:36,191
And then that sort of sits...
509
00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:39,569
I mean, I was thrown into
Swan Lake when I was 19.
510
00:29:40,528 --> 00:29:41,696
Woo, woop! Caught it.
511
00:29:41,779 --> 00:29:43,198
That's okay.
512
00:29:47,827 --> 00:29:49,913
Have fun!
513
00:29:49,996 --> 00:29:52,165
I will.
514
00:29:55,043 --> 00:30:00,131
This is a big opportunity
for me at my age.
515
00:30:00,215 --> 00:30:02,133
Yes, village girl!
516
00:30:02,217 --> 00:30:04,219
I don't think most
people can say
517
00:30:04,302 --> 00:30:05,821
they started their
career with Swan Lake.
518
00:30:05,845 --> 00:30:07,085
Are you from Bridgerton?
519
00:30:07,138 --> 00:30:09,557
Bridgerton, yeah, yeah!
520
00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:10,934
Guys, it's a mermaid!
521
00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:18,650
Whenever you go up the
ranks really quickly,
522
00:30:18,733 --> 00:30:20,360
there's resentment.
523
00:30:20,443 --> 00:30:23,321
And even though they're
all good people,
524
00:30:23,404 --> 00:30:25,865
it's just human nature.
525
00:30:37,001 --> 00:30:40,922
Why, are you trying
to make me a villain?
526
00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:42,685
I actually have to,
like, fight my jealousy
527
00:30:42,715 --> 00:30:47,679
because I know it's not, like,
useful to anyone, you know?
528
00:30:47,762 --> 00:30:49,389
And I am really happy for her
529
00:30:49,472 --> 00:30:51,307
and I know she's
gonna be really good.
530
00:30:51,391 --> 00:30:53,560
But of course, I'm
like so jealous,
531
00:30:53,643 --> 00:30:55,311
and every time I'm like, "Ugh!"
532
00:30:55,395 --> 00:30:58,439
But I know I, like,
could not do it so...
533
00:30:58,523 --> 00:30:59,983
yeah.
534
00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:03,486
Hopefully I'll get to,
like, I don't know,
535
00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:07,073
use some of this 'big
sad' one day on stage.
536
00:31:07,156 --> 00:31:10,368
That's all I can hope for.
537
00:31:10,451 --> 00:31:12,620
And work for.
538
00:31:17,917 --> 00:31:21,838
I should also say I don't really
actually, like, know how to...
539
00:31:21,921 --> 00:31:24,132
um, make anything.
540
00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:26,884
I just, like...
541
00:31:26,968 --> 00:31:30,388
mess around with all of
my stuff all the time.
542
00:31:30,471 --> 00:31:33,850
I was homeschooled,
543
00:31:33,933 --> 00:31:35,893
um...
544
00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:38,605
with a heavy
emphasis on the home,
545
00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:41,858
less of an emphasis
on the schooling.
546
00:31:41,941 --> 00:31:45,737
They were, like, did not
want me or my siblings
547
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:49,824
to be learning from
a place that, like,
548
00:31:49,907 --> 00:31:53,077
taught or believed in evolution.
549
00:31:53,161 --> 00:31:56,414
They were, like, "The Devil's
work is done in public schools!"
550
00:31:58,124 --> 00:32:03,671
It says, "Socialist,
Marxist, Libertarian, Slut."
551
00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:06,758
That's me!
552
00:32:06,841 --> 00:32:11,220
Hi, Bubba!
553
00:32:11,304 --> 00:32:12,430
Caroline's in Germany.
554
00:32:12,513 --> 00:32:14,641
- How's it going?
- It's good. Look.
555
00:32:16,809 --> 00:32:18,269
- Cheers!
- Cheers!
556
00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:21,939
- Happy Easter!
- Happy Easter.
557
00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:26,778
My mom worked as,
like, the receptionist
558
00:32:26,861 --> 00:32:28,988
at my ballet studio.
559
00:32:29,072 --> 00:32:31,532
My brother and I used
to clean the studios
560
00:32:31,616 --> 00:32:33,868
because we couldn't
afford classes.
561
00:32:33,951 --> 00:32:37,205
I mean, of course
some half-Mexican kid
562
00:32:37,288 --> 00:32:41,542
that's cleaning the studios,
you're gonna be picked on.
563
00:32:41,626 --> 00:32:45,421
I just wanted to fit
into the pink box so bad
564
00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:46,714
when I was little.
565
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:50,301
I would, like, check the box
with like a cross for Jesus.
566
00:32:55,390 --> 00:33:00,895
I would pray so much just to,
like, not be queer, to, like,
567
00:33:00,978 --> 00:33:04,273
not be sad, to have,
568
00:33:04,357 --> 00:33:06,484
like, my mom be happy.
569
00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:10,196
I would, like,
pray all the time.
570
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:12,448
For Shae to make it this far
571
00:33:12,532 --> 00:33:14,200
is kind of crazy,
572
00:33:14,283 --> 00:33:16,411
considering what she had
to put herself through
573
00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:21,249
to show up and, like, take
a ballet class every day.
574
00:33:21,332 --> 00:33:23,126
I had to, like, find sponsors
575
00:33:23,209 --> 00:33:24,460
so I could get pointe shoes.
576
00:33:24,544 --> 00:33:26,504
Like, I had to,
like, do fundraising;
577
00:33:26,587 --> 00:33:30,133
I had to work in
my ballet schools.
578
00:33:30,216 --> 00:33:32,844
She is gonna be a
principal dancer
579
00:33:32,927 --> 00:33:34,929
somewhere, sometime, for sure.
580
00:33:35,012 --> 00:33:39,851
There's, like, nothing stopping
her, except, like, herself.
581
00:33:39,934 --> 00:33:41,245
She's incredibly talented,
582
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:43,354
and she's incredibly
hard on herself,
583
00:33:43,438 --> 00:33:45,690
which is a tough combination.
584
00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:50,486
Being in a room
where I don't belong,
585
00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:55,992
that's been, like, the
thing, since I was a kid.
586
00:33:56,075 --> 00:34:01,205
It's hard, like, to have a
personality that isn't, like...
587
00:34:01,289 --> 00:34:04,584
it's in direct
conflict with, like,
588
00:34:04,667 --> 00:34:08,546
the thing you love most
in the world, you know?
589
00:34:29,525 --> 00:34:32,528
Rothbart represents
590
00:34:32,612 --> 00:34:36,991
the evil quality of men.
591
00:34:37,074 --> 00:34:39,619
You know, you live long
enough and you see the evil
592
00:34:39,702 --> 00:34:43,206
that men are capable of.
593
00:34:43,289 --> 00:34:45,333
It happens in the real world
594
00:34:45,416 --> 00:34:48,169
and it also happens
in this fairy tale.
595
00:34:56,427 --> 00:34:58,846
The resistance of
the corps de ballet
596
00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:01,557
to Rothbart is something
unique to this production,
597
00:35:01,641 --> 00:35:03,935
and it's not totally clear yet.
598
00:35:04,018 --> 00:35:07,355
I need to make it clear and
I'm not totally sure how.
599
00:35:12,235 --> 00:35:14,821
The idea has been that
Rothbart can control
600
00:35:14,904 --> 00:35:16,948
not just the women
but the weather,
601
00:35:17,031 --> 00:35:19,784
and he creates these huge storms
602
00:35:19,867 --> 00:35:22,328
that get more and
more wild and violent,
603
00:35:22,411 --> 00:35:25,289
and we see those in
the shape of the women
604
00:35:25,373 --> 00:35:27,041
because they are
sucked into the storm
605
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:31,337
and essentially become
the storm unwillingly.
606
00:35:31,420 --> 00:35:34,048
What I really want
to do is make sure
607
00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:37,510
that we can understand
that the swans
608
00:35:37,593 --> 00:35:40,721
are women who have
been abducted,
609
00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:45,143
and they are trapped
women, they're not birds.
610
00:35:45,226 --> 00:35:47,979
They've been forced
to dress a certain way
611
00:35:48,062 --> 00:35:52,567
that appeals to
this very sick man.
612
00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:53,901
Rothbart...
613
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:55,403
He's abducted these women.
614
00:35:55,486 --> 00:35:56,946
He has abducted them
615
00:35:57,029 --> 00:35:58,698
and he has forced
them to wear...
616
00:35:58,781 --> 00:36:00,116
Yes.
617
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:05,037
Swan costumes in order
to satisfy his craziness?
618
00:36:05,121 --> 00:36:06,664
Wow, I didn't hear this before.
619
00:36:06,747 --> 00:36:08,225
He's ordered them to
dress a certain way
620
00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:10,167
- because it gets him off.
- Wow.
621
00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:11,836
Oh, I haven't told
you about this!
622
00:36:11,919 --> 00:36:15,339
- No, you haven't!
- Yeah, that's how I'm seeing it.
623
00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:26,267
Okay, I want to do
that whole section
624
00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:28,436
one more time, and
then we'll go on.
625
00:36:30,771 --> 00:36:32,491
You know, every time she comes
626
00:36:32,523 --> 00:36:34,525
to see a section I've
made, I'm nervous,
627
00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:37,695
because, you know, all these big
group numbers are a ton of work
628
00:36:37,778 --> 00:36:40,031
to get them looking
like something.
629
00:36:43,951 --> 00:36:46,829
She's been a mentor
to me my whole career
630
00:36:46,913 --> 00:36:49,540
and has really, like,
guided my development
631
00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:50,875
as a choreographer,
632
00:36:50,958 --> 00:36:54,462
so her liking it is
really special to me.
633
00:36:58,257 --> 00:36:59,717
Um...
634
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,553
Shanae, you're just a
half-beat late there.
635
00:37:02,637 --> 00:37:04,347
I think let's do
that one more time,
636
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:05,910
'cause it's getting
better every time.
637
00:37:05,973 --> 00:37:09,393
And one-two-three,
two-two-three, three-two-three,
638
00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:13,230
four-two-three, five-two-three,
six-two-three, seven-two-three,
639
00:37:13,314 --> 00:37:17,360
eight-two-three, five-two-three,
two-two-three, three-two-three,
640
00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:20,655
four-two-three,
five-two-three, six-two...
641
00:37:20,738 --> 00:37:21,822
Good.
642
00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:25,576
Uh, was that in front
of Monika that time,
643
00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:26,869
or behind Monika?
644
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:28,913
Okay. And...
645
00:37:28,996 --> 00:37:32,917
One-two-three, two-two-three,
three-two-three, four-two-three,
646
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,921
five-two-three, six-two-three,
one-two-three, two-two-three,
647
00:37:37,004 --> 00:37:41,175
three-two-three, four-two-three,
five-two-three, six-two-three,
648
00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:42,468
seven-two-three...
649
00:37:42,551 --> 00:37:44,136
Shit, sorry, sorry, sorry.
650
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:46,180
You just have to
turn around sooner.
651
00:37:46,263 --> 00:37:47,431
Okay, one more time.
652
00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:53,396
I'm just trying to show
them as really human,
653
00:37:53,479 --> 00:37:54,772
right before the end.
654
00:37:54,855 --> 00:37:56,983
We're going far, and we
may have to pull it back,
655
00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:58,442
but it's like they try to...
656
00:37:58,526 --> 00:38:00,069
they try to rebel
against Rothbart
657
00:38:00,152 --> 00:38:01,904
and he knocks them
all to the floor,
658
00:38:01,988 --> 00:38:04,007
and they have this moment where
they're trying to recover,
659
00:38:04,031 --> 00:38:06,409
and then he turns them
back into birds at the end.
660
00:38:06,492 --> 00:38:07,732
- Okay.
- So we're just playing.
661
00:38:07,785 --> 00:38:08,786
Okay, okay.
662
00:38:08,869 --> 00:38:10,371
Okay...
663
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:18,212
So, five, six, seven, eight...
664
00:38:18,295 --> 00:38:23,926
And one, two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight...
665
00:38:24,010 --> 00:38:27,013
One, two, three, four...
666
00:38:57,877 --> 00:38:59,754
Good. Thank you!
667
00:38:59,837 --> 00:39:01,005
What do you think?
668
00:39:01,088 --> 00:39:02,288
It's interesting, yeah.
669
00:39:02,339 --> 00:39:03,483
It's interesting?
670
00:39:03,507 --> 00:39:05,009
It's the first time to see it.
671
00:39:05,092 --> 00:39:08,387
Let's try it one more time
with that shift, please.
672
00:39:08,471 --> 00:39:11,057
This was always gonna
be a tricky moment
673
00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:15,644
because Karen's way is always
that she needs to see things
674
00:39:15,728 --> 00:39:17,438
and then make decisions.
675
00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:20,274
But, like, it's such
a gentle evolution.
676
00:39:20,357 --> 00:39:23,694
And so I'm saying,
like, "You see it now.
677
00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:25,029
"What do you want?"
678
00:39:25,112 --> 00:39:27,531
And she's still like, "Well,
I don't really see it yet."
679
00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:30,201
And I'm like, "I know it's
not perfect, but it's there,
680
00:39:30,284 --> 00:39:32,620
"and we need to
start making calls."
681
00:39:32,703 --> 00:39:33,871
Thank you.
682
00:39:33,954 --> 00:39:37,333
Okay, I need to sleep on it.
683
00:39:37,416 --> 00:39:39,126
Do you have any thoughts?
684
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:40,377
No.
685
00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:42,088
No.
686
00:39:42,171 --> 00:39:43,506
I-I'm just absorbing.
687
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:44,673
Yeah, same.
688
00:39:47,301 --> 00:39:48,969
Endings are tough.
689
00:40:03,442 --> 00:40:04,819
I did an audition.
690
00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:10,074
Like, I did a proper audition
for the National Ballet at 18.
691
00:40:10,157 --> 00:40:11,867
But then, a year later,
692
00:40:11,951 --> 00:40:14,161
suddenly the ballerinas
were injured,
693
00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:16,956
and we were going on tour,
694
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:18,958
and I had to learn it.
695
00:40:19,041 --> 00:40:23,504
The whole thing, Swan Lake,
on tour, all over the US.
696
00:40:23,587 --> 00:40:24,964
Not long after that,
697
00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:27,383
Rudolf Nureyev came
to the tour with us,
698
00:40:27,466 --> 00:40:31,178
and from the moment Rudolf
laid his eyes on me,
699
00:40:31,262 --> 00:40:33,931
he decided that I was
going to be his protégé
700
00:40:34,014 --> 00:40:35,891
and he was going to help me.
701
00:40:35,975 --> 00:40:36,975
Reach down, hand.
702
00:40:37,017 --> 00:40:38,769
- Reach down.
- Okay, that'll slow it down.
703
00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:41,897
Rudolf had just filled
my sails with air
704
00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:46,569
and I lived on that
for a number of years.
705
00:40:46,652 --> 00:40:51,365
And then I didn't have
it, and that was hard.
706
00:40:51,448 --> 00:40:53,409
I did not do well.
707
00:40:53,492 --> 00:40:55,452
I quit dancing for a while,
708
00:40:55,536 --> 00:40:59,790
and the love of dance could
not overpower the anxiety
709
00:40:59,874 --> 00:41:05,171
and the feeling that I wasn't
worthy of all of this attention.
710
00:41:05,254 --> 00:41:07,506
Do you overwork?
711
00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:10,801
I felt that I have,
during the last year.
712
00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:15,389
I've just pushed myself almost
to the point of going too far,
713
00:41:15,472 --> 00:41:18,184
and I think this is something
I have to be very careful of.
714
00:41:18,267 --> 00:41:19,810
Something eventually gives out.
715
00:41:19,894 --> 00:41:23,189
If it's... if it's not an
ankle or a knee or a back,
716
00:41:23,272 --> 00:41:27,067
it's your morale that
just drops very low.
717
00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:29,320
When I took over as
artistic director,
718
00:41:29,403 --> 00:41:31,405
we were deeply in debt.
719
00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:33,282
Please join me in welcoming
720
00:41:33,365 --> 00:41:35,659
the new artistic
director, Karen Kain.
721
00:41:37,077 --> 00:41:39,413
We were losing support.
722
00:41:39,496 --> 00:41:43,250
I tried my best to help
keep the company afloat.
723
00:41:43,334 --> 00:41:46,837
I felt desperate to do that
because this organization
724
00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:51,592
has been my life from the
time I was 18 years old,
725
00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:53,636
and it's given me everything.
726
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,014
Sorry.
727
00:41:57,097 --> 00:42:01,518
And, um, I felt it was
going into bankruptcy,
728
00:42:01,602 --> 00:42:03,687
basically, at that point.
729
00:42:03,771 --> 00:42:06,565
There were some very dark days
730
00:42:06,649 --> 00:42:11,570
in my early years as
artistic director.
731
00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:13,822
I was completely terrified.
732
00:42:13,906 --> 00:42:16,617
I would have heart
palpitations, like really bad,
733
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:18,661
but that was my nature.
734
00:42:18,744 --> 00:42:20,204
I was like that as a child.
735
00:42:20,287 --> 00:42:23,207
You know, it just was who I was.
736
00:42:25,542 --> 00:42:28,379
So I still have
anxiety with Swan Lake,
737
00:42:28,462 --> 00:42:32,007
just with my heart
rate and everything.
738
00:42:32,091 --> 00:42:37,263
The responsibility is enormous.
739
00:42:37,346 --> 00:42:41,392
I was thinking again
today that we thought
740
00:42:41,475 --> 00:42:44,603
we were gonna do
this two years ago.
741
00:42:44,687 --> 00:42:46,981
We would have been more rushed,
742
00:42:47,064 --> 00:42:48,607
but I would have been younger
743
00:42:48,691 --> 00:42:50,484
and would've had
a lot more energy.
744
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:19,930
Hey!
745
00:43:20,014 --> 00:43:21,682
Hello!
746
00:43:22,683 --> 00:43:24,893
It's so exciting!
747
00:43:27,688 --> 00:43:29,440
It's so pretty!
748
00:43:29,523 --> 00:43:31,692
We're just testing out
to see whether or not
749
00:43:31,775 --> 00:43:33,193
bare legs is gonna
feel comfortable
750
00:43:33,277 --> 00:43:35,612
while we're dancing and
if there's any adjustments
751
00:43:35,696 --> 00:43:38,699
we need to make, or what
we can do so everyone feels
752
00:43:38,782 --> 00:43:41,035
like their best selves.
753
00:43:41,994 --> 00:43:43,287
I hate this.
754
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:44,663
Oh, no!
755
00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:46,373
Oh my God, cut!
756
00:43:47,833 --> 00:43:49,501
I... no.
757
00:43:51,378 --> 00:43:53,255
No, no, the bare legs.
758
00:43:53,339 --> 00:43:54,381
Oh, I see.
759
00:43:54,465 --> 00:43:55,608
It's very uncomfortable.
760
00:43:55,632 --> 00:43:57,426
Well...
761
00:43:57,509 --> 00:43:59,428
One by one, here we go...
762
00:43:59,511 --> 00:44:03,057
I can't see, like, my
toes, to like, go down.
763
00:44:03,140 --> 00:44:06,060
When I was auditioning
764
00:44:06,143 --> 00:44:07,895
for the Australian
ballet school,
765
00:44:07,978 --> 00:44:12,900
my mom, I was old enough for
her to sort of talk to me
766
00:44:12,983 --> 00:44:15,069
about being a Black woman, like,
767
00:44:15,152 --> 00:44:18,697
in society and all of that,
and she said, you know,
768
00:44:18,781 --> 00:44:21,408
"It is going to
be harder for you
769
00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:23,410
"regardless of what
career you are in;
770
00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:25,204
"it's just going to be harder,
771
00:44:25,287 --> 00:44:27,247
"so as long as you're
prepared to do the work,
772
00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:31,043
"that's all that matters."
773
00:44:31,126 --> 00:44:32,366
Oh, that looks amazing.
774
00:44:32,419 --> 00:44:33,670
Bare legs.
775
00:44:45,557 --> 00:44:47,393
Cut?
776
00:44:47,476 --> 00:44:50,813
Yeah.
777
00:44:50,896 --> 00:44:54,358
The whole idea was that
they're these trapped women
778
00:44:54,441 --> 00:44:56,693
and they all have
different skin colours,
779
00:44:56,777 --> 00:44:58,862
so the discussion is around,
780
00:44:58,946 --> 00:45:04,493
"If we just wear our skin,
my shoes won't match," or...
781
00:45:04,576 --> 00:45:06,262
"What if I'm sweating?"
and, "What if this?"
782
00:45:06,286 --> 00:45:07,371
and, "What if that?"
783
00:45:12,584 --> 00:45:14,378
I know, right?
784
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,802
So, we decided we'd
start Tirion on centre.
785
00:45:21,885 --> 00:45:24,805
And then, I mean, if we can get
all the way to Brenna on centre,
786
00:45:24,888 --> 00:45:27,558
that would be ideal 'cause
then we go back the other way.
787
00:45:27,641 --> 00:45:29,059
And...
788
00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:41,405
It's definitely
been hard to see,
789
00:45:41,488 --> 00:45:44,116
like, the lack of
enthusiasm, I think,
790
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:46,368
from peers and colleagues.
791
00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:49,830
We're like, "This is
a huge thing for us,
792
00:45:49,913 --> 00:45:54,001
"to finally get to be
ourselves on stage,"
793
00:45:54,084 --> 00:45:56,462
and it looks better
on... in my opinion,
794
00:45:56,545 --> 00:46:01,633
I think it looks
better on everybody.
795
00:46:01,717 --> 00:46:04,595
With ballet, everyone
wants to be...
796
00:46:04,678 --> 00:46:07,014
like, you want to
honour the tradition.
797
00:46:07,097 --> 00:46:09,600
But racism isn't
a good tradition.
798
00:46:20,027 --> 00:46:21,570
I think they look beautiful.
799
00:46:21,653 --> 00:46:22,863
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
800
00:46:22,946 --> 00:46:24,386
You happy with the bare legs?
801
00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:26,992
- I am.
- Great.
802
00:46:27,075 --> 00:46:28,410
We'll do it.
803
00:46:28,494 --> 00:46:30,496
So, bare legs means
that everybody
804
00:46:30,579 --> 00:46:32,706
has to pancake their shoes.
805
00:46:34,249 --> 00:46:35,249
Cool.
806
00:46:35,292 --> 00:46:37,336
Okay, so let's go...
807
00:46:37,419 --> 00:46:39,230
Is it okay to let the ladies
get out of costume now?
808
00:46:39,254 --> 00:46:40,547
Yeah, yeah.
809
00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:42,942
Okay, so ladies who are in
costume, you can get out.
810
00:46:42,966 --> 00:46:45,719
We're gonna go to the top of
Act 4 and just start putting...
811
00:47:06,406 --> 00:47:08,242
- Hey.
- Hey.
812
00:47:08,325 --> 00:47:09,826
Can we go in the hallway?
813
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:10,929
- Is that okay?
- Yeah, yeah.
814
00:47:10,953 --> 00:47:11,995
Okay.
815
00:47:20,796 --> 00:47:23,924
Sorry.
816
00:47:24,007 --> 00:47:27,928
So, for the costumes, y'all
have like fully decided,
817
00:47:28,011 --> 00:47:29,638
like, no one's
wearing tights, right?
818
00:47:29,721 --> 00:47:31,139
That's what Karen wants.
819
00:47:31,223 --> 00:47:33,600
Okay, 'cause, like, you
know my whole, like,
820
00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:35,644
thing that happened in December?
821
00:47:35,727 --> 00:47:36,812
No.
822
00:47:36,895 --> 00:47:38,206
Where I was, like,
in the hospital.
823
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:40,440
Oh, I don't have
details, but I mean...
824
00:47:40,524 --> 00:47:42,150
Well, basically I just like,
825
00:47:42,234 --> 00:47:44,444
really, like, I went crazy
and, like, cut my legs
826
00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:46,029
and had to get 75 stitches.
827
00:47:46,113 --> 00:47:47,447
Oh my God.
828
00:47:47,531 --> 00:47:49,700
And it was almost like
to the muscle, so...
829
00:47:49,783 --> 00:47:52,828
I just have like really,
really, like bad scars
830
00:47:52,911 --> 00:47:55,122
- that are still, like, purple.
- Ah, okay.
831
00:47:55,205 --> 00:47:57,499
- Okay.
- And, like, really raised.
832
00:47:57,583 --> 00:47:59,960
Like, I tried to
like cover them,
833
00:48:00,043 --> 00:48:01,503
- but it doesn't do anything.
- Yeah.
834
00:48:01,587 --> 00:48:04,256
- I can, like, take a picture...
- I mean, I believe you.
835
00:48:04,339 --> 00:48:05,608
You don't need to
prove it to me.
836
00:48:05,632 --> 00:48:07,092
Um...
837
00:48:07,175 --> 00:48:08,653
I'll just need to
brainstorm with Stacy.
838
00:48:08,677 --> 00:48:10,446
- Okay, yeah.
- We'll come up with a solution.
839
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:12,472
Okay, just checking,
'cause I was like...
840
00:48:12,556 --> 00:48:15,058
I don't want it to
be, like, distracting.
841
00:48:15,142 --> 00:48:17,769
No, I mean, I... um...
842
00:48:17,853 --> 00:48:19,396
It's also gonna be about...
843
00:48:19,479 --> 00:48:21,982
like, is it important to
you that they're covered,
844
00:48:22,065 --> 00:48:23,233
or are you worried about us?
845
00:48:23,317 --> 00:48:24,961
Well, it's like... I'm
worried about you guys.
846
00:48:24,985 --> 00:48:26,570
Okay, cool. Thank you so much.
847
00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:29,531
- Sorry, Rob.
- No, don't apologize.
848
00:48:35,203 --> 00:48:40,208
I had a really bad, um,
849
00:48:40,292 --> 00:48:44,379
depressive episode and
I went a little crazy
850
00:48:44,463 --> 00:48:46,757
and slipped back into, um,
851
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,510
some bad habits I had
when I was younger.
852
00:49:03,857 --> 00:49:06,985
We had done the
last show and, like,
853
00:49:07,069 --> 00:49:10,947
I was hanging out with people,
and I got so in my head.
854
00:49:11,031 --> 00:49:15,035
I thought, like,
everyone hated me.
855
00:49:15,118 --> 00:49:17,788
I...
856
00:49:17,871 --> 00:49:20,540
When in reality, I
just hate myself!
857
00:49:25,337 --> 00:49:29,216
Ballet is the only
thing that, like,
858
00:49:29,299 --> 00:49:31,176
helps me, like...
859
00:49:31,259 --> 00:49:33,553
It's like my...
860
00:49:33,637 --> 00:49:36,306
It's like my angel, you know?
861
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:40,060
But it's also, like,
my fucking demon.
862
00:49:40,143 --> 00:49:42,121
It's, like, amazing
how much she, like,
863
00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:46,024
bounces back, like, every
time something happens.
864
00:49:46,108 --> 00:49:47,567
Like...
865
00:49:47,651 --> 00:49:49,319
She just loves
ballet so much, like,
866
00:49:49,403 --> 00:49:53,198
even though it destroys her.
867
00:49:55,951 --> 00:49:57,744
It's like I'm in, like,
868
00:49:57,828 --> 00:50:01,123
an unrequited love situation.
869
00:50:01,206 --> 00:50:03,750
Like, I love ballet, and
sometimes it feels like
870
00:50:03,834 --> 00:50:06,670
it doesn't love
me back, you know?
871
00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:47,586
Approved?
872
00:50:47,669 --> 00:50:50,130
I have two bad options, so...
873
00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:53,800
the best out of the bad
is to get injection.
874
00:50:53,884 --> 00:50:56,553
Okay, okay...
875
00:51:01,808 --> 00:51:04,644
I don't talk about this injury.
876
00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:09,274
I don't think even my
colleagues really know.
877
00:51:09,357 --> 00:51:10,984
I just don't talk about it.
878
00:51:11,067 --> 00:51:13,653
I just deal with it,
every single day.
879
00:51:16,907 --> 00:51:21,578
I've had this nerve injury
for about eight years.
880
00:51:21,661 --> 00:51:26,374
When the nerve starts
hurting, it causes spasms.
881
00:51:30,712 --> 00:51:31,963
The pain is,
882
00:51:32,047 --> 00:51:36,968
I can't even tell you the
strength of the actual pain.
883
00:51:37,052 --> 00:51:38,678
You scream.
884
00:51:38,762 --> 00:51:40,680
Like day and night, I
would go up the stairs
885
00:51:40,764 --> 00:51:43,141
and I would just
scream from pain.
886
00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:48,438
Sometimes therapy is enough
to release the nerve,
887
00:51:48,522 --> 00:51:49,523
and sometimes it's not,
888
00:51:49,606 --> 00:51:51,107
and then I have to
get an injection.
889
00:51:51,191 --> 00:51:53,068
Sorry, sorry. Come back down.
890
00:51:53,151 --> 00:51:55,362
This injection carries a risk.
891
00:51:55,445 --> 00:51:59,324
It's a trigger point... you
hit one, everything goes.
892
00:51:59,407 --> 00:52:03,245
And Swan Lake is in
two and a half weeks.
893
00:52:05,288 --> 00:52:08,667
Any other person probably would
have stopped a long time ago.
894
00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:11,586
But I refuse because it's
part of me, it's who I am,
895
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:13,964
it's my identity.
896
00:52:14,047 --> 00:52:16,925
And where I feel human.
897
00:52:17,008 --> 00:52:20,303
What ballet means to me
is so much that, again,
898
00:52:20,387 --> 00:52:23,974
I just refuse to accept this.
899
00:52:43,451 --> 00:52:45,036
It's a massive show,
900
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,414
and it's an important
production, because,
901
00:52:47,497 --> 00:52:49,499
well, there's
Karen's retirement.
902
00:52:49,583 --> 00:52:52,043
Like, there's a lot
of people's life goals
903
00:52:52,127 --> 00:52:54,671
that revolve around
these moments.
904
00:52:57,757 --> 00:52:59,968
We don't really know
how it's going until
905
00:53:00,051 --> 00:53:02,137
we start to put it together
in the theatre next week,
906
00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:04,347
and even then, when we start
to see it under lights,
907
00:53:04,431 --> 00:53:06,808
we won't know till we
try it with the dancers
908
00:53:06,892 --> 00:53:08,518
and with the scenery.
909
00:53:08,602 --> 00:53:10,353
Gabriela's the designer
910
00:53:10,437 --> 00:53:14,316
for this Swan Lake production.
911
00:53:14,399 --> 00:53:18,987
She designs all the
costumes, all the set.
912
00:53:19,070 --> 00:53:22,073
Gabriela has worked
for major shows,
913
00:53:22,157 --> 00:53:26,119
and she's used to having
an unlimited budget.
914
00:53:26,202 --> 00:53:28,371
That's why Andrew
Lloyd Webber loves her!
915
00:53:28,455 --> 00:53:29,539
Yeah.
916
00:53:29,623 --> 00:53:33,543
She certainly has a flair,
from what I've seen.
917
00:53:33,627 --> 00:53:38,298
And, you know, it's
lavish, it's big.
918
00:53:38,381 --> 00:53:39,716
Mm-hm.
919
00:53:45,555 --> 00:53:47,015
Have you been waiting for long?
920
00:53:47,098 --> 00:53:49,059
Yeah?
921
00:53:49,142 --> 00:53:51,770
It's been a hell of a time.
922
00:53:51,853 --> 00:53:53,647
First time I flew
over to Canada,
923
00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:57,400
I flew from Australia to meet
with Karen, and we got on.
924
00:53:57,484 --> 00:54:00,445
We really connected,
and I sort of...
925
00:54:00,528 --> 00:54:03,657
I think I kind of got to
926
00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:05,784
what Karen wanted to
say with the show.
927
00:54:05,867 --> 00:54:08,328
It wasn't just, you
know, "This is Swan Lake
928
00:54:08,411 --> 00:54:09,996
"and we're gonna
have white swans."
929
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,831
The themes were much deeper,
930
00:54:11,915 --> 00:54:14,209
and she was really interested
to explore the darkness
931
00:54:14,292 --> 00:54:17,963
of somebody actually possessing
somebody else's life.
932
00:54:30,767 --> 00:54:33,770
So, today is a
costume run-through.
933
00:54:33,853 --> 00:54:36,856
Um, it's really a chance
for the costume designer
934
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:39,818
to see everything together,
and it's a good chance for us,
935
00:54:39,901 --> 00:54:43,780
too, to practice putting them
on and seeing how they fit.
936
00:54:43,863 --> 00:54:46,116
That's a snug fit.
937
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:48,576
I was asked about this
show in my interview
938
00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:50,453
in August 2019,
939
00:54:50,537 --> 00:54:53,081
and it's all I've thought
about until this moment,
940
00:54:53,164 --> 00:54:55,542
so I'm so excited that
it's finally happening.
941
00:54:57,085 --> 00:54:59,713
And I'm just like, "How am I
gonna get through Swan Lake?
942
00:54:59,796 --> 00:55:01,923
"It's so massive."
943
00:55:13,727 --> 00:55:15,520
We need to ask for that.
944
00:55:15,603 --> 00:55:17,772
- Yeah, I can't...
- 'Cause it's like...
945
00:55:17,856 --> 00:55:20,316
This is as high as I go.
946
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,294
Karen, I'm just warning
you, it might be...
947
00:55:22,318 --> 00:55:23,796
because I haven't seen
them all together,
948
00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:25,363
if some of them
jump out too much,
949
00:55:25,447 --> 00:55:26,647
we can always knock them down.
950
00:55:27,449 --> 00:55:28,908
Okay, welcome back.
951
00:55:28,992 --> 00:55:30,493
You look amazing.
952
00:55:30,577 --> 00:55:32,746
We're gonna go from
the top of Act 3.
953
00:55:32,829 --> 00:55:35,165
This is gonna be a
bit more stop-start
954
00:55:35,248 --> 00:55:37,542
'cause we're integrating
some supers into this,
955
00:55:37,625 --> 00:55:40,920
and we re-choreographed
the waltz yesterday.
956
00:55:41,004 --> 00:55:42,964
So, could I have
everyone in place
957
00:55:43,048 --> 00:55:45,842
for the top of the act, please?
958
00:55:45,925 --> 00:55:48,261
It'll be the first
time it goes from,
959
00:55:48,344 --> 00:55:50,764
like, a series of dances
to a story, is the hope.
960
00:55:50,847 --> 00:55:53,475
And making sure the
story comes through
961
00:55:53,558 --> 00:55:57,645
is the most important thing.
962
00:56:34,724 --> 00:56:36,684
Let's do the circle again.
963
00:56:36,768 --> 00:56:39,312
Ladies, we need to do it
faster if the music's faster.
964
00:56:39,395 --> 00:56:41,773
Go back the other way, supers!
965
00:56:41,856 --> 00:56:46,236
It is chaos right now.
966
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:48,196
We didn't have space
to do our dance,
967
00:56:48,279 --> 00:56:51,407
and then our costumes
fuck us over so much.
968
00:56:55,620 --> 00:56:57,288
You see the frustration
969
00:56:57,372 --> 00:57:00,625
for the performers, too,
because it just feels like
970
00:57:00,708 --> 00:57:04,379
it's so much harder, or
the costume's in the way.
971
00:57:04,462 --> 00:57:07,507
It just feels different.
972
00:57:20,103 --> 00:57:22,147
Okay, we're going to keep going.
973
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:23,898
We're gonna give
you your five now,
974
00:57:23,982 --> 00:57:26,234
and then some time
to get into costume.
975
00:57:31,698 --> 00:57:34,617
I'm gonna throw up!
976
00:57:38,371 --> 00:57:41,499
- Take care.
- Uh-huh.
977
00:57:41,583 --> 00:57:44,919
And I've decided to
let them all have
978
00:57:45,003 --> 00:57:46,546
their natural colour skin...
979
00:57:46,629 --> 00:57:47,881
Yeah.
980
00:57:47,964 --> 00:57:50,341
Like, not make them, even
as swans, wear white.
981
00:57:50,425 --> 00:57:52,260
- Yeah, I think Stacy told me.
- Yeah.
982
00:57:52,343 --> 00:57:54,053
- Yeah.
- So I think this is...
983
00:57:54,137 --> 00:57:55,781
Yeah, and I've heard
there's possible issues
984
00:57:55,805 --> 00:57:56,973
with some girls because...
985
00:57:57,056 --> 00:57:59,934
Yeah, well, we'll see,
but I think it's more
986
00:58:00,018 --> 00:58:01,186
contemporary to do that.
987
00:58:01,269 --> 00:58:02,645
Mm-hm.
988
00:58:02,729 --> 00:58:05,064
I mean, if you're going to
have certain skin colour...
989
00:58:05,148 --> 00:58:06,566
Then why are you putting tights?
990
00:58:06,649 --> 00:58:08,067
Why would you have white tights?
991
00:58:08,151 --> 00:58:09,861
- Yeah, true.
- So...
992
00:58:09,944 --> 00:58:11,613
Yeah.
993
00:58:30,673 --> 00:58:32,800
She's caught.
994
00:58:51,444 --> 00:58:52,904
They do a lot.
995
00:58:52,987 --> 00:58:54,656
They dance a lot.
996
00:58:54,739 --> 00:58:57,784
Corps de ballet works
like... they work like dogs.
997
00:59:03,581 --> 00:59:05,625
I do feel every day like
998
00:59:05,708 --> 00:59:06,834
we're balancing on, like,
999
00:59:06,918 --> 00:59:09,128
the tip of a razor blade,
because it's this thing
1000
00:59:09,212 --> 00:59:11,381
where you have to push
hard enough to get there,
1001
00:59:11,464 --> 00:59:13,132
but not so hard people get hurt.
1002
00:59:14,133 --> 00:59:16,135
Oh...
1003
00:59:16,219 --> 00:59:17,553
But it's also like,
1004
00:59:17,637 --> 00:59:19,597
Karen's looking at me
like, "This is a mess."
1005
00:59:19,681 --> 00:59:22,558
And I'm like, "I know.
Can't address that now."
1006
00:59:26,813 --> 00:59:31,109
It's just still a lot of
question marks for me,
1007
00:59:31,192 --> 00:59:34,320
you know, at this moment in it,
1008
00:59:34,404 --> 00:59:36,656
and I'm really anxious.
1009
00:59:52,171 --> 00:59:53,673
Dancers, you're all excused!
1010
00:59:53,756 --> 00:59:55,800
Thank you very much!
1011
01:00:12,442 --> 01:00:14,235
Oof!
1012
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:16,362
- A lot of work to do.
- Yep.
1013
01:00:16,446 --> 01:00:17,864
The fourth act...
1014
01:00:35,256 --> 01:00:40,219
Ti! Get it together!
1015
01:00:40,303 --> 01:00:41,721
You're gonna flood this place!
1016
01:00:52,690 --> 01:00:54,734
This part makes me nervous,
1017
01:00:54,817 --> 01:00:58,112
more than, like,
the actual shows.
1018
01:01:05,411 --> 01:01:07,830
We're just, like,
doing more, and, like,
1019
01:01:07,914 --> 01:01:11,501
bodies are more tired, and...
1020
01:01:11,584 --> 01:01:16,798
brains are not working.
1021
01:01:16,881 --> 01:01:19,675
'Cause everything just
starts hurting more.
1022
01:02:34,584 --> 01:02:37,503
The move into theatre is always
1023
01:02:37,587 --> 01:02:40,506
an adjustment for everyone.
1024
01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:42,300
It's like a different life there
1025
01:02:42,383 --> 01:02:44,302
than the life here
in the studio.
1026
01:02:44,385 --> 01:02:49,932
Two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight.
1027
01:02:50,016 --> 01:02:51,601
Okay, let's go back to...
1028
01:02:51,684 --> 01:02:53,394
The lights are coming at you
1029
01:02:53,478 --> 01:02:55,229
from different sides,
1030
01:02:55,313 --> 01:02:58,941
and the set is in a
place you didn't expect.
1031
01:02:59,025 --> 01:03:00,225
You've got a different hurdle.
1032
01:03:00,276 --> 01:03:01,611
Punk rock.
1033
01:03:02,653 --> 01:03:03,905
Yeah!
1034
01:03:03,988 --> 01:03:07,116
Like, there's just so
many things to adapt to
1035
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,410
before they go in front
of thousands of people
1036
01:03:09,494 --> 01:03:10,578
and do really hard things.
1037
01:03:10,661 --> 01:03:13,623
And then...
1038
01:03:13,706 --> 01:03:15,291
Coming right down, yes.
1039
01:03:15,374 --> 01:03:16,918
Okay, that'll work. Thank you.
1040
01:03:17,001 --> 01:03:18,669
We're gonna go back
to after the coda...
1041
01:03:18,753 --> 01:03:22,006
The stage is really
revealing for corps work
1042
01:03:22,089 --> 01:03:24,967
because you suddenly pick
up on these differences
1043
01:03:25,051 --> 01:03:28,346
and inconsistencies that
you didn't in the studio.
1044
01:03:28,429 --> 01:03:30,389
Two, three, four...
1045
01:03:30,473 --> 01:03:32,016
And it's also like,
1046
01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:33,726
the corps is what
makes Swan Lake.
1047
01:03:33,809 --> 01:03:35,770
To me, they're the
star of the show.
1048
01:03:35,853 --> 01:03:38,731
I need to, like,
get into the circle.
1049
01:03:38,814 --> 01:03:41,692
Over by Tene and Jenna,
can you open the circle...
1050
01:03:41,776 --> 01:03:43,694
I go directly into the wing.
1051
01:03:43,778 --> 01:03:45,071
Yes?
1052
01:03:45,154 --> 01:03:47,299
We were just thinking they
might be going into the wing.
1053
01:03:47,323 --> 01:03:48,383
There's a spike there.
1054
01:03:48,407 --> 01:03:49,801
Everyone wants the best.
1055
01:03:49,825 --> 01:03:53,412
But it's hard when there's
so many different voices.
1056
01:03:53,496 --> 01:03:55,414
I walked all the way over there
1057
01:03:55,498 --> 01:03:56,541
and I could see her...
1058
01:04:06,342 --> 01:04:09,345
Nan... Nan? Is it possible...
1059
01:04:14,350 --> 01:04:16,018
It's bumpy, but...
1060
01:04:16,102 --> 01:04:20,856
today I have to
push really hard.
1061
01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:24,277
I know that if I can get to
a place where everyone knows
1062
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:25,820
where they're supposed to be,
1063
01:04:25,903 --> 01:04:28,281
at least they can
focus on their dancing
1064
01:04:28,364 --> 01:04:30,491
and not wonder what
the fuck is going on.
1065
01:04:30,575 --> 01:04:32,344
Just keep hiding, get
behind that centre line...
1066
01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:33,369
no, no.
1067
01:04:33,452 --> 01:04:34,662
Stay behind them. That's it.
1068
01:04:34,745 --> 01:04:37,415
Stay hidden.
1069
01:04:39,584 --> 01:04:42,795
Just criss-cross. And it's
quite heavy, this one.
1070
01:04:42,878 --> 01:04:44,630
So it better be attached well.
1071
01:04:49,176 --> 01:04:50,970
It's one of the hardest days
1072
01:04:51,053 --> 01:04:52,847
because you're just
in the theatre all day
1073
01:04:52,930 --> 01:04:54,265
from morning till evening,
1074
01:04:54,348 --> 01:04:57,476
and not knowing when
you're gonna go on.
1075
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,896
So you just wait for your
entrance while they stop and go,
1076
01:05:00,980 --> 01:05:04,108
stop and go, it doesn't
work, changes, entrances...
1077
01:05:05,985 --> 01:05:09,989
Just embody what Karen
believes that Swan Lake is.
1078
01:05:10,072 --> 01:05:13,868
One, two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight.
1079
01:05:13,951 --> 01:05:15,119
One, two, three, four...
1080
01:05:15,202 --> 01:05:16,682
It's gonna be painfully slow.
1081
01:05:17,913 --> 01:05:19,332
- I'm prepared.
- Are you?
1082
01:05:19,415 --> 01:05:22,084
I need to see all my
courtier supers on stage.
1083
01:05:22,168 --> 01:05:23,248
We're going to place you...
1084
01:05:23,294 --> 01:05:25,338
Okay, courtiers, let's
go to where we think
1085
01:05:25,421 --> 01:05:27,673
- we're supposed to be.
- Good lord...
1086
01:05:27,757 --> 01:05:31,093
So, peacock is
furthest that way.
1087
01:05:31,177 --> 01:05:36,098
So we need to go
butterfly and peacock.
1088
01:05:36,182 --> 01:05:37,850
Then mermaid.
1089
01:05:37,933 --> 01:05:39,935
Then swan.
1090
01:05:40,019 --> 01:05:42,188
And musicians.
1091
01:05:42,271 --> 01:05:45,608
Then gingerbread, unicorn,
1092
01:05:45,691 --> 01:05:47,943
Queen of Hearts.
1093
01:06:15,054 --> 01:06:16,555
I think that looks too far on.
1094
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:18,057
I think it looks
too far on, too.
1095
01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:19,809
Rob, I think it's too far on.
1096
01:06:19,892 --> 01:06:24,397
Vanessa, you need to get the
up faster to conceal her.
1097
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,564
Yes, Jurgita?
1098
01:06:31,404 --> 01:06:33,823
Do you want to try the
whole entrance again?
1099
01:06:33,906 --> 01:06:36,158
Okay, we'll go from
the same place again.
1100
01:06:58,264 --> 01:07:00,725
I have no space.
1101
01:07:08,607 --> 01:07:11,527
I've always been at the
side of the choreographers
1102
01:07:11,610 --> 01:07:12,737
who came to work with us.
1103
01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:15,072
I've never been fully
responsible for it before.
1104
01:07:15,156 --> 01:07:17,491
That's the difference.
1105
01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:19,744
And boy, it's a big difference.
1106
01:07:19,827 --> 01:07:22,747
Um, they have to come in
earlier for the fouettés,
1107
01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:25,124
because I'm standing
there, it's my music to go,
1108
01:07:25,207 --> 01:07:27,018
I've barely made it, and
I have to start going.
1109
01:07:27,042 --> 01:07:27,710
- Yeah.
- It's ridiculous.
1110
01:07:27,793 --> 01:07:29,295
We'll fix it, we'll fix it.
1111
01:07:29,378 --> 01:07:31,922
We'll fix it, don't
worry! We'll fix it.
1112
01:07:32,006 --> 01:07:34,467
- Um, yeah, thank you.
- Okay.
1113
01:08:03,204 --> 01:08:05,372
Mostly I see what isn't working,
1114
01:08:05,456 --> 01:08:06,874
as opposed to what is,
1115
01:08:06,957 --> 01:08:11,128
and then I try to tell myself
to look at what is working.
1116
01:08:11,212 --> 01:08:15,841
And snap out of it!
1117
01:08:15,925 --> 01:08:18,969
I was so happy to see
Genevieve this afternoon,
1118
01:08:19,053 --> 01:08:20,846
even though it's her
first time on the stage
1119
01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:22,515
in the lights and all that.
1120
01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:28,229
If the worst happened
1121
01:08:28,312 --> 01:08:30,272
and Jurgita couldn't perform,
1122
01:08:30,356 --> 01:08:34,735
I would sit down with Rob
and the artistic staff
1123
01:08:34,819 --> 01:08:37,321
and I would listen to
all of their advice,
1124
01:08:37,404 --> 01:08:40,282
and then I would
make up my own mind
1125
01:08:40,366 --> 01:08:43,202
about who I would give
that opportunity to.
1126
01:08:47,665 --> 01:08:49,708
I...
1127
01:08:49,792 --> 01:08:51,627
I would like to.
1128
01:09:15,067 --> 01:09:17,820
I'm probably getting
an injection.
1129
01:09:22,366 --> 01:09:24,535
If the injection has the outcome
1130
01:09:24,618 --> 01:09:27,413
that I don't want it to have
and I don't do the shows,
1131
01:09:27,496 --> 01:09:28,122
then I'm done.
1132
01:09:28,205 --> 01:09:31,417
Okay?
1133
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:33,919
It's not fair.
1134
01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:48,058
- Not wearing a vest, no.
- Muscley...
1135
01:09:48,142 --> 01:09:50,936
No, not wearing a vest.
A muscley guy with a dog.
1136
01:09:51,020 --> 01:09:53,731
I feel like you would
date like a, like...
1137
01:09:53,814 --> 01:09:56,859
"Hmm, I wear a
watch all the time."
1138
01:09:56,942 --> 01:09:58,777
I feel like you would
definitely date a guy
1139
01:09:58,861 --> 01:10:00,112
who wears, like, a big watch.
1140
01:10:00,195 --> 01:10:01,530
Absolutely!
1141
01:10:01,614 --> 01:10:03,592
You're like, "Money, money,
money, money, money!"
1142
01:10:03,616 --> 01:10:06,118
No, not about the money,
but it's just, like,
1143
01:10:06,201 --> 01:10:08,203
a watch is important!
1144
01:10:12,791 --> 01:10:14,293
This is what it looks like
1145
01:10:14,376 --> 01:10:18,297
to actively be overcoming
your eating disorders.
1146
01:10:18,380 --> 01:10:21,300
High five.
1147
01:10:21,383 --> 01:10:22,801
I think we're all capable of it.
1148
01:10:22,885 --> 01:10:24,404
- Yeah, definitely.
- That's the thing.
1149
01:10:24,428 --> 01:10:26,889
So it's just like we have to
save ourselves so that we can
1150
01:10:26,972 --> 01:10:29,016
- make it to opening night.
- Yeah.
1151
01:10:29,099 --> 01:10:31,268
And I feel like it's
especially hard for, like,
1152
01:10:31,352 --> 01:10:34,146
people our age to save
ourselves because, like...
1153
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:35,916
Well, yeah, you're just
trying to prove yourself
1154
01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:37,542
- all the time, yeah.
- There's, like, pressure
1155
01:10:37,566 --> 01:10:40,152
to prove yourself and do
everything always 100% full-out.
1156
01:10:40,235 --> 01:10:42,947
- Yeah.
- And you're like...
1157
01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:45,324
"I'm gonna fucking break
my foot again," you know?
1158
01:10:45,407 --> 01:10:46,825
Mm-hm.
1159
01:10:46,909 --> 01:10:48,911
Yeah, it's finding
the balance of, like,
1160
01:10:48,994 --> 01:10:51,830
saving yourself but also
doing your best every time.
1161
01:10:51,914 --> 01:10:53,290
Yeah.
1162
01:10:53,374 --> 01:10:55,417
And every show.
1163
01:11:07,638 --> 01:11:11,642
Bourrées, fast bourrées, ladies.
1164
01:11:15,771 --> 01:11:18,232
Good. Energy in the back leg!
1165
01:11:18,315 --> 01:11:19,650
Better, good!
1166
01:11:23,028 --> 01:11:25,030
Mind the arms on
those piqué turns!
1167
01:11:25,114 --> 01:11:28,033
What fucking arms?
1168
01:11:28,117 --> 01:11:30,869
And up on jeté will
help the landing.
1169
01:11:32,496 --> 01:11:34,498
I'm gonna fucking sprain
my ankle doing this.
1170
01:11:34,581 --> 01:11:35,582
Nice clean lines.
1171
01:11:35,666 --> 01:11:37,042
I was like...
1172
01:11:49,138 --> 01:11:50,498
It's really demanding,
1173
01:11:50,556 --> 01:11:54,143
really demanding, both
technically and physically.
1174
01:11:54,226 --> 01:11:57,062
But the corps' been quite rough.
1175
01:12:05,154 --> 01:12:06,363
That was much better.
1176
01:12:06,447 --> 01:12:08,073
Yeah? Pssht.
1177
01:12:08,157 --> 01:12:11,160
Good, 'cause it
doesn't feel better.
1178
01:12:31,221 --> 01:12:32,532
Tene wore her Apple watch
1179
01:12:32,556 --> 01:12:33,807
during the fourth act
1180
01:12:33,891 --> 01:12:38,437
and realized that,
uh, she ran 5K.
1181
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,440
Then we had to do it
again for every principal.
1182
01:12:41,523 --> 01:12:45,652
So something like that, it's
pretty brutal on your body.
1183
01:12:52,785 --> 01:12:55,829
Uh, Maya in the back,
you were just a bit...
1184
01:12:55,913 --> 01:12:57,289
Somehow this diagonal...
1185
01:12:57,372 --> 01:12:59,666
This is not right.
1186
01:12:59,750 --> 01:13:02,628
Death. Slow death.
1187
01:13:08,050 --> 01:13:10,070
Tene told us that she
had a pedometer on,
1188
01:13:10,094 --> 01:13:12,679
and during Act 4 they run 5K.
1189
01:13:12,763 --> 01:13:13,889
Wow.
1190
01:13:17,017 --> 01:13:21,355
I think that's where, when
you sign on the dotted line,
1191
01:13:21,438 --> 01:13:23,816
that's what you were in for!
1192
01:14:21,874 --> 01:14:23,250
How's it going?
1193
01:14:23,333 --> 01:14:24,877
It's going.
1194
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,587
I guess.
1195
01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:28,964
It's kind of like a
shit show right now.
1196
01:14:29,047 --> 01:14:32,885
It's, like, crazy and chaotic,
1197
01:14:32,968 --> 01:14:36,305
and I'm like so anxious and
all of the girls are like...
1198
01:14:37,806 --> 01:14:40,267
They're just like...
1199
01:14:40,350 --> 01:14:42,644
It feels like we're just
working and working and working
1200
01:14:42,728 --> 01:14:45,272
our bodies and not
actually fixing anything.
1201
01:14:45,355 --> 01:14:47,191
And, like...
1202
01:14:47,274 --> 01:14:51,028
there's, like, a
disconnect somewhere,
1203
01:14:51,111 --> 01:14:53,530
between, like, the staff
and us, it feels like.
1204
01:14:53,614 --> 01:14:57,659
So it's, like, stressful and...
1205
01:14:57,743 --> 01:15:00,120
I don't know.
1206
01:15:00,204 --> 01:15:02,664
All of us are just, like,
crumbling, you know?
1207
01:15:17,930 --> 01:15:19,490
There have been a
couple of nights
1208
01:15:19,514 --> 01:15:22,351
that I just went home
and Ross was like,
1209
01:15:22,434 --> 01:15:23,810
"How's it going?" you know?
1210
01:15:23,894 --> 01:15:25,395
And I'm like...
1211
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,066
"Not well!"
1212
01:15:29,149 --> 01:15:34,363
Um, and then, of course,
I can't sleep, so, um...
1213
01:15:34,446 --> 01:15:36,240
I just...
1214
01:15:36,323 --> 01:15:39,076
Just a million thoughts
going through my head about
1215
01:15:39,159 --> 01:15:42,371
what we can do,
how we can route...
1216
01:15:42,454 --> 01:15:43,830
you know, re-synch some bits,
1217
01:15:43,914 --> 01:15:47,084
and other things, going,
1218
01:15:47,167 --> 01:15:51,630
"I think that should work,
but it's not working."
1219
01:15:51,713 --> 01:15:53,882
They did it right
yesterday afternoon,
1220
01:15:53,966 --> 01:15:55,300
one of them, and I thought,
1221
01:15:55,384 --> 01:15:58,679
"Okay, we're getting
closer to this moment."
1222
01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:04,142
There's one that
I love already...
1223
01:16:04,226 --> 01:16:06,687
I always wait for it...
it's when all the women,
1224
01:16:06,770 --> 01:16:09,231
they're all huddled
together across the back,
1225
01:16:09,314 --> 01:16:12,609
and they're
consoling each other.
1226
01:16:12,693 --> 01:16:16,321
Those moments for
me are so important.
1227
01:16:16,405 --> 01:16:20,200
They hit you in a
way, if you see them,
1228
01:16:20,284 --> 01:16:23,996
they hit you in a way
that nothing else can.
1229
01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:27,165
I also think I've never seen
that done in any Swan Lake.
1230
01:16:27,249 --> 01:16:29,418
It's just always
perfect swans and lines,
1231
01:16:29,501 --> 01:16:32,838
and everybody dances well.
1232
01:16:32,921 --> 01:16:37,050
But here, there are moments
when they stop just being
1233
01:16:37,134 --> 01:16:41,930
incredible dancers and
they become human beings.
1234
01:17:05,412 --> 01:17:07,748
So, last time I used a
slightly thicker needle,
1235
01:17:07,831 --> 01:17:10,459
so I'm purposefully using
a thinner needle today,
1236
01:17:10,542 --> 01:17:12,711
just so you know, because...
1237
01:17:12,794 --> 01:17:14,463
As long as it does the same job.
1238
01:17:14,546 --> 01:17:17,257
Yeah. "Just fix it!"
1239
01:17:17,341 --> 01:17:20,635
Just fix it!
1240
01:17:20,719 --> 01:17:23,388
There we are.
1241
01:17:38,987 --> 01:17:41,490
So, when I went
to get injection,
1242
01:17:41,573 --> 01:17:44,576
the doctor suggested to
do only partial injection,
1243
01:17:44,659 --> 01:17:46,912
to just relieve the nerve enough
1244
01:17:46,995 --> 01:17:50,123
but not deactivate the muscle.
1245
01:17:50,207 --> 01:17:52,542
The next day, I knew
that I'm gonna be fine.
1246
01:17:52,626 --> 01:17:53,960
That's much better.
1247
01:17:54,044 --> 01:17:56,147
Just wish I would have
had that answer before.
1248
01:17:56,171 --> 01:17:57,923
So I'm just grateful
1249
01:17:58,006 --> 01:18:00,592
that events aligned itself
that I can dance today.
1250
01:18:00,675 --> 01:18:04,262
Incredibly thankful that I
did not do the full injection
1251
01:18:04,346 --> 01:18:06,306
'cause I wouldn't
be able to dance.
1252
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:08,809
Enjoy. Okay?
1253
01:18:08,892 --> 01:18:10,811
You enjoy.
1254
01:18:10,894 --> 01:18:12,771
- I will.
- Good, I hope so.
1255
01:18:12,854 --> 01:18:16,108
If not, you'll tell me.
1256
01:18:53,645 --> 01:18:54,980
Fun games that we play.
1257
01:18:55,063 --> 01:18:57,083
I don't think this is something
we should be super proud of,
1258
01:18:57,107 --> 01:19:00,527
- but it's our Advil tally!
- You could duct tape it.
1259
01:19:00,610 --> 01:19:02,529
Oh yeah, maybe I'll just
tape it to the door.
1260
01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:04,364
It has to be taken
in this building,
1261
01:19:04,448 --> 01:19:07,868
and then depending on how much
you're taking you get, like,
1262
01:19:07,951 --> 01:19:11,079
1 point, 2 points,
or 2.5 points.
1263
01:19:11,163 --> 01:19:15,375
It's starting today
because of opening night.
1264
01:19:15,459 --> 01:19:17,311
Opening night is
always weird for me
1265
01:19:17,335 --> 01:19:19,087
because it's the
first time that, like,
1266
01:19:19,171 --> 01:19:20,630
I don't have a microphone!
1267
01:19:20,714 --> 01:19:21,840
I can't say anything.
1268
01:19:21,923 --> 01:19:24,176
Like, if something's
wrong, I can't fix it.
1269
01:19:24,259 --> 01:19:25,927
So it's really, like...
1270
01:19:26,011 --> 01:19:29,639
a big, for me, like
just handing over
1271
01:19:29,723 --> 01:19:31,766
all my trust to the dancers.
1272
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:36,873
I'm really reckoning with,
1273
01:19:36,897 --> 01:19:39,858
like, how hard I push them,
1274
01:19:39,941 --> 01:19:43,904
but I hope that they know
1275
01:19:43,987 --> 01:19:45,947
that I am asking
all this of them
1276
01:19:46,031 --> 01:19:48,241
because I see, like,
1277
01:19:48,325 --> 01:19:50,452
limitless potential in
what they do as a group.
1278
01:19:50,535 --> 01:19:52,954
And I think that
ultimately, like,
1279
01:19:53,038 --> 01:19:56,208
it is the most powerful
force on stage.
1280
01:19:56,291 --> 01:20:00,378
But all of these
women want so much,
1281
01:20:00,462 --> 01:20:02,047
which is also why it's so good
1282
01:20:02,130 --> 01:20:03,840
and why they push
themselves so hard.
1283
01:20:22,359 --> 01:20:26,071
Okay, I gotta... I
gotta go and warm up,
1284
01:20:26,154 --> 01:20:29,115
but I'll chat to you soon.
1285
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:31,409
Alright, love you. Bye.
1286
01:20:33,662 --> 01:20:35,502
But yeah, this
question of, like,
1287
01:20:35,539 --> 01:20:38,250
"What's worth it,
and what's too much?"
1288
01:20:38,333 --> 01:20:40,835
is kind of like one of
the endless challenges
1289
01:20:40,919 --> 01:20:42,254
in ballet.
1290
01:20:42,337 --> 01:20:45,590
And it's like, "Okay, yeah,
they all agreed to it."
1291
01:20:45,674 --> 01:20:49,511
That doesn't necessarily
make it right.
1292
01:20:50,762 --> 01:20:52,931
Toi, toi, ladies.
1293
01:20:58,520 --> 01:20:59,354
Um...
1294
01:20:59,437 --> 01:21:01,731
it was not a good rehearsal.
1295
01:21:01,815 --> 01:21:03,292
You know what they
always say, that...
1296
01:21:03,316 --> 01:21:04,484
Mmm, we hope!
1297
01:21:04,568 --> 01:21:06,945
Tough dress rehearsal,
great opening night.
1298
01:21:07,028 --> 01:21:10,240
So we're really hoping
for the best for tonight.
1299
01:21:10,323 --> 01:21:12,659
It's sold incredibly well.
1300
01:21:12,742 --> 01:21:15,287
It's probably also that
people are just really anxious
1301
01:21:15,370 --> 01:21:16,621
to see dance again.
1302
01:21:16,705 --> 01:21:21,209
But this is the best sales
we've had in a long time.
1303
01:21:25,463 --> 01:21:27,299
Well...
1304
01:21:27,382 --> 01:21:31,595
Well, I think Swan Lake
is a pretty compelling...
1305
01:21:32,721 --> 01:21:35,307
Take some credit
for once, woman!
1306
01:21:39,769 --> 01:21:43,023
We've waited two and a
half years to do this,
1307
01:21:43,106 --> 01:21:48,320
so there's a lot riding
on this emotionally.
1308
01:21:48,403 --> 01:21:52,449
And the artists, you know, they
have to rise to that level.
1309
01:21:52,532 --> 01:21:53,992
It's now in their hands.
1310
01:21:54,075 --> 01:21:56,661
There's nothing I can do.
1311
01:23:10,276 --> 01:23:12,779
Thank you for joining us
1312
01:23:12,862 --> 01:23:16,658
for the world premiere of our
new production of Swan Lake.
1313
01:25:18,321 --> 01:25:20,031
Yes!
1314
01:27:04,177 --> 01:27:05,511
Just for the next one.
1315
01:27:05,595 --> 01:27:07,680
It's fine, it's okay.
1316
01:28:46,946 --> 01:28:49,282
Let's save her!
1317
01:28:49,365 --> 01:28:51,659
Let's help her!
1318
01:31:39,035 --> 01:31:40,953
You were so good.
1319
01:31:41,037 --> 01:31:43,497
- Thank you.
- Muah!
1320
01:31:43,581 --> 01:31:45,333
Thank you.
1321
01:32:25,873 --> 01:32:27,309
When I started ballet,
1322
01:32:27,333 --> 01:32:29,669
I just could never even
imagine that this is the life
1323
01:32:29,752 --> 01:32:31,379
I would be living.
1324
01:32:31,462 --> 01:32:34,006
I made it from zero.
1325
01:32:34,090 --> 01:32:38,719
Those memories of stepping
on stage when I was nine
1326
01:32:38,803 --> 01:32:42,056
to what I do now,
it makes sense.
1327
01:32:42,139 --> 01:32:45,226
I let go, I risk...
1328
01:32:45,309 --> 01:32:47,311
I'm a soul on stage.
1329
01:33:01,617 --> 01:33:03,452
And, you know, every second,
1330
01:33:03,536 --> 01:33:05,663
I believed every
second of what you did.
1331
01:33:05,746 --> 01:33:07,039
- Thank you.
- Every second.
1332
01:33:07,123 --> 01:33:08,624
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
1333
01:33:08,708 --> 01:33:11,961
- I poured my heart.
- You sure did.
1334
01:33:12,044 --> 01:33:14,338
You were amazing, all of you!
1335
01:33:14,422 --> 01:33:17,008
All of you, thank you so much!
1336
01:33:17,091 --> 01:33:18,551
All your hard work.
1337
01:33:18,634 --> 01:33:20,469
Just so beautiful.
1338
01:33:20,553 --> 01:33:22,555
It came so far.
1339
01:33:22,638 --> 01:33:25,349
Thank you so much, ladies.
1340
01:33:25,433 --> 01:33:27,601
I hope you enjoyed
it a little bit.
1341
01:33:27,685 --> 01:33:29,645
A lot?
1342
01:33:29,729 --> 01:33:31,063
Muah!
1343
01:33:31,147 --> 01:33:33,190
Really fantastic
corps de ballet.
1344
01:33:33,274 --> 01:33:34,859
Thank you all.
1345
01:33:34,942 --> 01:33:36,360
I loved it.
1346
01:33:36,444 --> 01:33:39,530
I think everyone looks
amazing without the tights.
1347
01:33:39,613 --> 01:33:42,616
I even had friends that watched
that thought it was beautiful
1348
01:33:42,700 --> 01:33:45,536
and were shocked that this
wasn't just the normal thing
1349
01:33:45,619 --> 01:33:46,787
that we do.
1350
01:33:46,871 --> 01:33:49,165
And I was like, "No,
guys, this is the first
1351
01:33:49,248 --> 01:33:53,544
"classical ballet that
is not requiring us to
1352
01:33:53,627 --> 01:33:57,048
"change half of ourselves
or be anything else."
1353
01:33:57,131 --> 01:33:59,050
Like, we are actually just us.
1354
01:33:59,133 --> 01:34:00,760
One, two, three...
1355
01:34:03,804 --> 01:34:06,932
- Are you okay?
- Yes!
1356
01:34:07,016 --> 01:34:09,143
Don't you fuckin'
dare hurt yourself!
1357
01:34:13,064 --> 01:34:14,565
Thank you so much, Rob.
1358
01:34:14,648 --> 01:34:16,168
Thank you. You
guys were amazing.
1359
01:34:16,192 --> 01:34:17,401
- You had fun?
- Yes.
1360
01:34:17,485 --> 01:34:19,070
Good. Act 4 was like...
1361
01:34:19,153 --> 01:34:21,655
I feel like we all were like...
1362
01:34:21,739 --> 01:34:24,909
Hello, sweetheart!
1363
01:34:24,992 --> 01:34:27,745
- Did you have a good time?
- The best time.
1364
01:34:27,828 --> 01:34:31,040
- It was beautiful, wasn't it?
- It was fantastic.
1365
01:34:31,123 --> 01:34:32,803
Congrats on your
first Swan Lake.
1366
01:34:32,875 --> 01:34:34,668
Thank you.
1367
01:34:38,672 --> 01:34:41,509
Do I look cranky?
1368
01:34:41,592 --> 01:34:43,636
I mean pretty.
1369
01:34:45,471 --> 01:34:47,014
I'm the ugly ducking.
1370
01:34:49,266 --> 01:34:52,103
I just want to,
like, bow by myself.
1371
01:34:52,186 --> 01:34:54,688
One day I'm gonna fucking do it.
1372
01:34:54,772 --> 01:35:00,069
I just need to figure out how to
not hold myself back, I think.
1373
01:35:00,152 --> 01:35:02,822
And I need to just be like,
1374
01:35:02,905 --> 01:35:08,828
try and believe people when they
say nice stuff to me, you know?
1375
01:35:08,911 --> 01:35:11,330
Ballet is punk rock as fuck.
1376
01:35:11,414 --> 01:35:14,125
Nobody wants to admit
it, but it's true.
1377
01:35:16,293 --> 01:35:18,963
It's a one-in-a-lifetime
experience,
1378
01:35:19,046 --> 01:35:22,675
to be part of something so big
1379
01:35:22,758 --> 01:35:27,304
and be trusted with the choices
I make artistically on stage.
1380
01:35:27,388 --> 01:35:30,474
I know that I did my best
1381
01:35:30,558 --> 01:35:33,978
in trying to make
her vision alive.
1382
01:35:34,061 --> 01:35:35,187
Long lift?
1383
01:35:35,271 --> 01:35:37,940
For now, I have still another
1384
01:35:38,023 --> 01:35:40,484
eight to ten years
to dance, hopefully.
1385
01:35:40,568 --> 01:35:44,613
It will be time to
transition from dance.
1386
01:35:44,697 --> 01:35:47,199
But not yet.
1387
01:35:47,283 --> 01:35:48,576
Congratulations.
1388
01:35:48,659 --> 01:35:50,161
Oh!
1389
01:35:52,663 --> 01:35:54,832
Fantastic. They were
fantastic, yeah.
1390
01:35:54,915 --> 01:35:56,459
It just went another level.
1391
01:35:56,542 --> 01:35:57,668
I mean, finally, it all...
1392
01:35:57,751 --> 01:35:59,920
No, no, it just
takes time, yeah.
1393
01:36:00,004 --> 01:36:02,089
Well, thank God it was
tonight that it gelled...
1394
01:36:02,173 --> 01:36:03,424
Yeah, I know!
1395
01:36:03,507 --> 01:36:05,926
I was thinking maybe next week
it'll gel, after yesterday.
1396
01:36:06,010 --> 01:36:07,612
Remember when you
said, "Show ten"?
1397
01:36:07,636 --> 01:36:09,305
"Show ten, it's
gonna be great!"
1398
01:36:09,388 --> 01:36:10,639
We got show one!
1399
01:36:10,723 --> 01:36:13,684
But, you know, I came
expecting to, you know,
1400
01:36:13,768 --> 01:36:16,437
have to accept that some things
were gonna be a little bit iffy.
1401
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,731
- Yeah, and it was...
- And nothing was iffy.
1402
01:36:18,814 --> 01:36:20,774
- Yeah, yeah.
- That's a miracle.
1403
01:36:20,858 --> 01:36:22,109
Agreed, agreed!
1404
01:36:22,193 --> 01:36:23,277
That's hard work.
1405
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,029
It's hard work!
1406
01:36:25,112 --> 01:36:26,447
I'm ecstatic.
1407
01:36:26,530 --> 01:36:28,449
I mean, they all danced
their little hearts out.
1408
01:36:28,532 --> 01:36:30,701
It was just...
1409
01:36:30,784 --> 01:36:34,205
Yeah, I was, like... I
could barely move, I was...
1410
01:36:34,288 --> 01:36:37,208
[indistinct conversation
in background
1411
01:36:37,291 --> 01:36:40,419
They pulled me in to the drama.
1412
01:36:40,503 --> 01:36:43,547
Just the way I wanted!
1413
01:36:43,631 --> 01:36:46,842
I am so happy and I haven't
even had a drink yet!
1414
01:36:52,723 --> 01:36:54,808
Oh, the "Story About Me"?
1415
01:36:54,892 --> 01:36:57,394
This is my book, "A
Story About Me"...
1416
01:36:57,478 --> 01:37:00,564
by Karen Kain!
1417
01:37:00,648 --> 01:37:03,067
"When I grow up, I'm
going to be a ballerina.
1418
01:37:03,150 --> 01:37:05,486
"I could go out every
night and dance."
1419
01:37:05,569 --> 01:37:08,447
Only I said "dace."
1420
01:37:08,531 --> 01:37:10,366
"I will be in 'Giselle.'
1421
01:37:10,449 --> 01:37:14,411
"It will be so much
fun being a ballerina."
1422
01:37:18,999 --> 01:37:21,460
"Dancing is never really fun."
1423
01:37:24,505 --> 01:37:25,631
Oh, dear!
1424
01:37:25,714 --> 01:37:26,775
Did you say that?
1425
01:37:26,799 --> 01:37:28,717
I guess I did.
1426
01:37:28,801 --> 01:37:30,362
"Sometimes afterwards,
you can say,
1427
01:37:30,386 --> 01:37:31,887
'That was a really
good experience
1428
01:37:31,971 --> 01:37:34,932
'and I really enjoyed it.'
1429
01:37:35,015 --> 01:37:37,142
"But you're concentrating
so hard on what you're doing
1430
01:37:37,226 --> 01:37:39,144
"that the only time
it's ever really fun
1431
01:37:39,228 --> 01:37:41,272
"is when you're feeling no pain
1432
01:37:41,355 --> 01:37:44,191
"and things seem
to be going well."
1433
01:37:44,275 --> 01:37:45,276
So...
1434
01:37:45,359 --> 01:37:47,570
I was 27.
1435
01:37:50,197 --> 01:37:52,283
I'd forgotten all this stuff.
1436
01:37:52,366 --> 01:37:55,369
Oh my God, well...
1437
01:37:55,452 --> 01:37:58,664
Oh, this is when we were
filming Giselle, I think.
1438
01:37:58,747 --> 01:38:03,460
Oh, this is Frank and I.
Oh my God, we're so young.
1439
01:38:03,544 --> 01:38:05,462
Yeah, this is like the final...
1440
01:38:05,546 --> 01:38:09,133
the final moments in Swan Lake.
1441
01:38:09,216 --> 01:38:11,760
The last... the last Swan Lake.
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