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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:28,153 --> 00:00:30,464 Ladies and gentlemen, this is your 15-minute call. 2 00:00:30,488 --> 00:00:32,490 Fifteen minutes, please, to the top of Act 1. 3 00:00:32,574 --> 00:00:33,783 The stage is available. 4 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:35,368 Thank you. 5 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:53,887 Toi, toi, ladies. 6 00:00:53,970 --> 00:00:55,472 It's gonna be amazing. Have fun. 7 00:00:55,555 --> 00:00:56,699 Thanks for everything, Rob. 8 00:00:56,723 --> 00:00:57,766 Thank you. 9 00:00:57,849 --> 00:00:59,201 We're gonna be really fucking good. 10 00:00:59,225 --> 00:01:01,144 I have no doubt. I am pumped. 11 00:01:01,227 --> 00:01:02,520 Yeah, as you should be. 12 00:01:02,604 --> 00:01:04,647 No, like, we're ready, we're there. 13 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:05,732 Yeah. 14 00:01:05,815 --> 00:01:07,650 It's gonna be great. Have fun. 15 00:01:10,403 --> 00:01:12,030 Will you read it to us? 16 00:01:12,113 --> 00:01:12,989 "Dear dancers. 17 00:01:13,072 --> 00:01:14,866 "Thank you for all of your hard work, 18 00:01:14,949 --> 00:01:16,326 "creativity, and brilliant dancing. 19 00:01:16,409 --> 00:01:18,203 "It has been a privilege and a pleasure 20 00:01:18,286 --> 00:01:19,662 "creating this ballet with you. 21 00:01:19,746 --> 00:01:22,499 "Sincerely, Rob." 22 00:01:22,582 --> 00:01:25,668 "Thank you for being so responsive and adaptive 23 00:01:25,752 --> 00:01:28,213 "to the 35 million changes we've made to this ballet 24 00:01:28,296 --> 00:01:30,107 - "in the last three months." - In the last two days! 25 00:01:30,131 --> 00:01:32,258 Yeah! 26 00:01:34,135 --> 00:01:36,095 "Thank you for all the stress you've endured 27 00:01:36,179 --> 00:01:38,640 "and for all the tears you've cried. 28 00:01:38,723 --> 00:01:40,642 "They mean a lot to me." 29 00:02:58,094 --> 00:02:59,470 Thank you for joining us 30 00:02:59,554 --> 00:03:04,058 for the world premiere of our new production of Swan Lake. 31 00:03:13,818 --> 00:03:15,379 You know, the announcement 32 00:03:15,403 --> 00:03:17,030 of the new season and so forth, 33 00:03:17,113 --> 00:03:19,324 I think... personally, I think we all know 34 00:03:19,407 --> 00:03:21,117 that it's likely that we're gonna cancel 35 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,413 the March and June season as they're currently announced, 36 00:03:25,496 --> 00:03:27,540 and I think we need to make that announcement 37 00:03:27,624 --> 00:03:28,708 sooner than December. 38 00:03:28,791 --> 00:03:30,460 I know we had always sort of targeted 39 00:03:30,543 --> 00:03:31,878 the beginning of December, 40 00:03:31,961 --> 00:03:33,630 but I think for a variety of reasons, 41 00:03:33,713 --> 00:03:35,006 it's too hard... 42 00:03:56,152 --> 00:03:58,321 Well, here's the thing. 43 00:03:58,404 --> 00:04:01,282 We had just done Swan Lake at the Met, 44 00:04:01,366 --> 00:04:03,993 and I had danced with Rudolf Nureyev, 45 00:04:04,077 --> 00:04:06,663 and he said, "Come with me, come with me. 46 00:04:06,746 --> 00:04:08,915 "We go party, we go party." 47 00:04:08,998 --> 00:04:11,626 I'm doing a terrible, terrible imitation of him! 48 00:04:11,709 --> 00:04:13,086 No, I love it. 49 00:04:13,169 --> 00:04:15,880 So, he has this limo take us over there. 50 00:04:15,964 --> 00:04:20,551 And he takes me up, we go up in this elevator 51 00:04:20,635 --> 00:04:23,805 in this fancy building, and the door opens, 52 00:04:23,888 --> 00:04:27,016 and it's packed full of people. 53 00:04:29,143 --> 00:04:32,939 There's bowls of cocaine on the tables, and caviar, 54 00:04:33,022 --> 00:04:36,150 and people... there's every rock star you've ever... 55 00:04:36,234 --> 00:04:37,902 it's a zoo! 56 00:04:37,986 --> 00:04:41,489 I am wandering through this, no... like I'm in a movie. 57 00:04:41,572 --> 00:04:44,367 I'm just wandering through this place. 58 00:04:44,450 --> 00:04:47,537 And I meet Andy and he says, 59 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:50,957 "She looks like an angel." 60 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,042 And, um... 61 00:04:53,126 --> 00:04:58,214 So I waited there, and he asked me to put my hands like this, 62 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:01,676 and he mumbled and he walked all around me, 63 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:04,053 and he took pictures from all angles, 64 00:05:04,137 --> 00:05:05,722 and he disappeared. 65 00:05:05,805 --> 00:05:07,432 And that was it. 66 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:10,935 I just hated it. 67 00:05:11,019 --> 00:05:13,229 I just was like, "Oh, all that glitter, ugh!" 68 00:05:13,312 --> 00:05:15,940 You know? Like... 69 00:05:22,071 --> 00:05:24,574 Karen Kain is one of the biggest 70 00:05:24,657 --> 00:05:27,201 international ballet stars ever, 71 00:05:27,285 --> 00:05:28,911 like up there with Rudolf Nureyev 72 00:05:28,995 --> 00:05:30,830 and Margot Fonteyn. 73 00:05:30,913 --> 00:05:32,915 She is completely a legend. 74 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:34,518 When I go work in Russia, 75 00:05:34,542 --> 00:05:36,419 still the only ballet name they know is 76 00:05:36,502 --> 00:05:38,504 "Karen Kain." 77 00:05:38,588 --> 00:05:39,922 She's beloved. 78 00:05:40,006 --> 00:05:42,884 She's like the Princess Diana of Canada. 79 00:05:42,967 --> 00:05:45,762 Everything that woman touches turns to gold, 80 00:05:45,845 --> 00:05:50,308 whether it's performing or being an artistic director. 81 00:05:50,391 --> 00:05:53,186 This year was a culmination of so many things, 82 00:05:53,269 --> 00:05:56,272 for me personally and for the National Ballet of Canada. 83 00:05:56,355 --> 00:05:58,399 But 50 years with the company, 84 00:05:58,483 --> 00:06:03,613 in my capacity as a dancer and then artistic director, 85 00:06:03,696 --> 00:06:06,699 it's really time for me to retire. 86 00:06:09,327 --> 00:06:13,039 We needed a new Swan Lake, and I thought, 87 00:06:13,122 --> 00:06:17,335 "I want to try to find the courage to do this." 88 00:06:17,418 --> 00:06:20,421 That, some fan gave me and I don't like it. 89 00:06:20,505 --> 00:06:24,092 But I didn't know what to do with it, so I stuck it up there. 90 00:06:24,175 --> 00:06:27,303 I am directing for the first time. 91 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:30,473 I admit that I have no experience, 92 00:06:30,556 --> 00:06:34,477 but I guess I felt that at this point in my career, 93 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,815 if I felt this strongly about this ballet, 94 00:06:38,898 --> 00:06:42,151 this would be the only time I would ever 95 00:06:42,235 --> 00:06:45,571 have a chance to do it. 96 00:06:45,655 --> 00:06:50,159 I have to feel just so... 97 00:06:50,243 --> 00:06:52,495 brave, going forward to do this. 98 00:06:52,578 --> 00:06:54,330 I-I... 99 00:06:54,413 --> 00:06:56,499 It has to be a success. 100 00:06:56,582 --> 00:06:58,251 It has to be. 101 00:07:08,219 --> 00:07:09,696 Thank you for calling 102 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,265 the National Ballet. This is Karen Kain. 103 00:07:12,348 --> 00:07:14,809 Our offices are now closed. 104 00:07:14,892 --> 00:07:17,770 Please listen carefully, as some of our voicemail options 105 00:07:17,854 --> 00:07:20,773 have recently changed... 106 00:07:58,728 --> 00:08:00,479 So, every ballet company, 107 00:08:00,563 --> 00:08:05,276 we have a hierarchy from apprentices, or junior company, 108 00:08:05,359 --> 00:08:09,363 to corps de ballet, to demi-soloist, to a soloist, 109 00:08:09,447 --> 00:08:13,701 to a first soloist, and principal ballerina, 110 00:08:13,784 --> 00:08:15,953 and then so-called étoile, 111 00:08:16,037 --> 00:08:20,374 or internationally acclaimed dancer 112 00:08:20,458 --> 00:08:23,502 that travels around the world as a guest ballerina. 113 00:08:23,586 --> 00:08:28,049 So, um, I think I've been fortunate in my career 114 00:08:28,132 --> 00:08:30,509 to be the... the... 115 00:08:30,593 --> 00:08:31,928 the principal ballerina 116 00:08:32,011 --> 00:08:36,599 and internationally acclaimed ballerina worldwide. 117 00:08:36,682 --> 00:08:40,561 This will be my tenth different production of Swan Lake. 118 00:08:40,645 --> 00:08:43,189 Swan Lake is the ballet I have performed the most 119 00:08:43,272 --> 00:08:44,899 around the world. 120 00:08:44,982 --> 00:08:49,946 Swan Lake has definitely been always somehow my ballet, 121 00:08:50,029 --> 00:08:53,533 so, um, I do expect to dance as Swan Queen. 122 00:09:04,502 --> 00:09:05,962 Oh. 123 00:09:06,045 --> 00:09:08,130 See? 124 00:09:08,214 --> 00:09:11,550 You can't hold the horse back. 125 00:09:11,634 --> 00:09:14,387 What did he tell you? 126 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:16,931 - What did you tell them? - Just say "yes." 127 00:09:32,488 --> 00:09:33,823 In general, in the Western world, 128 00:09:33,906 --> 00:09:34,991 I mean especially here, 129 00:09:35,074 --> 00:09:39,495 in everything is so many activities for kids, right? 130 00:09:39,578 --> 00:09:41,580 I didn't grow up with that. 131 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:44,250 I grew up with just, like, if you do something, 132 00:09:44,333 --> 00:09:48,754 you do it seriously, not as a hobby. 133 00:09:48,838 --> 00:09:50,840 I had to fight for everything. 134 00:09:50,923 --> 00:09:53,509 From the first day of even getting the ballet school, 135 00:09:53,592 --> 00:09:57,638 I had to even fight for that. 136 00:09:57,722 --> 00:10:02,560 When I look back how I started, I just could never even imagine 137 00:10:02,643 --> 00:10:06,272 that this is the life I would be living. 138 00:10:21,787 --> 00:10:24,582 Oh, that was hard! 139 00:10:24,665 --> 00:10:27,209 I love Swan Lake. 140 00:10:27,293 --> 00:10:31,339 I mean, it's just a classic, you know? 141 00:10:31,422 --> 00:10:33,341 The only thing I want in my whole life 142 00:10:33,424 --> 00:10:35,301 is to be a principal dancer. 143 00:10:35,384 --> 00:10:37,553 But I'm not, like, at that level... 144 00:10:37,636 --> 00:10:40,139 yet, so... 145 00:10:40,222 --> 00:10:42,016 I will be the nice, like, 146 00:10:42,099 --> 00:10:44,977 30-second duck in the back of the stage. 147 00:10:45,061 --> 00:10:47,813 Okay, Google, how's the weather? 148 00:10:47,897 --> 00:10:49,148 Currently in Toronto, 149 00:10:49,231 --> 00:10:51,108 it's 62 degrees and mostly sunny. 150 00:10:52,401 --> 00:10:53,778 There's Cheez-Its in here 151 00:10:53,861 --> 00:10:57,239 if you guys want any morning Cheez-Its. 152 00:10:57,323 --> 00:10:59,492 Okay, Google, what does it all mean? 153 00:10:59,575 --> 00:11:02,745 Just kidding. It can't tell me. 154 00:11:02,828 --> 00:11:04,330 According to Google Books, 155 00:11:04,413 --> 00:11:06,248 should the hard questions of philosophy matter 156 00:11:06,332 --> 00:11:07,666 to ordinary people? 157 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:10,711 In this down-to-earth, non-historical guide... 158 00:11:10,795 --> 00:11:13,339 I was born in Nacogdoches, Texas. 159 00:11:13,422 --> 00:11:15,674 Very Bible Belt. 160 00:11:15,758 --> 00:11:20,054 Maybe not white trash, but eggshell! 161 00:11:20,137 --> 00:11:22,640 You were an Army brat, right? 162 00:11:22,723 --> 00:11:23,766 Yeah! 163 00:11:23,849 --> 00:11:25,976 Still am. 164 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:28,396 My whole wall in my bedroom was, like, 165 00:11:28,479 --> 00:11:30,648 plastered with ballet pictures, 166 00:11:30,731 --> 00:11:34,402 just, like, from top to bottom. 167 00:11:34,485 --> 00:11:38,072 I didn't, like, give myself another option. 168 00:11:38,155 --> 00:11:41,951 I was just like, "I'm going to be a ballet dancer." 169 00:11:42,034 --> 00:11:44,328 I will always be hoping that 170 00:11:44,412 --> 00:11:49,208 somebody is gonna see something good in me, you know? 171 00:11:49,291 --> 00:11:51,544 Um, but it's... 172 00:11:51,627 --> 00:11:54,463 not really that simple. 173 00:12:00,928 --> 00:12:02,763 It's been more than two years 174 00:12:02,847 --> 00:12:06,183 that we've been talking about Swan Lake, and... 175 00:12:06,267 --> 00:12:10,271 I think in my mind, just to make it easier for myself, 176 00:12:10,354 --> 00:12:12,273 I just kind of let it go, thinking, 177 00:12:12,356 --> 00:12:13,649 "It's not gonna happen." 178 00:12:13,732 --> 00:12:17,570 I can't believe we're finally getting to do this. 179 00:12:17,653 --> 00:12:20,030 The stop-and-start, 180 00:12:20,114 --> 00:12:22,950 the excitement and the disappointment. 181 00:12:23,033 --> 00:12:25,911 The first thing is to take off the cat sneakers 182 00:12:25,995 --> 00:12:28,914 and put on the dance sneakers. 183 00:12:30,791 --> 00:12:32,626 There are Swan Lakes all over the world 184 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:34,837 and they're danced beautifully, 185 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,881 but I'm tired of looking at things 186 00:12:36,964 --> 00:12:38,841 that are academic exercises. 187 00:12:38,924 --> 00:12:40,134 I want to be moved. 188 00:12:40,217 --> 00:12:41,802 It's theatre... 189 00:12:41,886 --> 00:12:44,221 You know? I want to cry. 190 00:12:44,305 --> 00:12:48,684 The music starts, it's the key for me to everything. 191 00:12:48,767 --> 00:12:50,436 I hear the music... 192 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:52,938 my body can remember everything. 193 00:12:53,022 --> 00:12:57,943 I can feel the coordination inside... 194 00:12:58,027 --> 00:13:03,407 and can remember every step on every note... 195 00:13:03,491 --> 00:13:06,785 that you haven't even thought about for so many years. 196 00:13:06,869 --> 00:13:08,996 But it's still there, in some part of your brain. 197 00:13:09,079 --> 00:13:11,373 It's still there. 198 00:13:25,304 --> 00:13:26,430 Ayano? 199 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:27,973 How're you doing? 200 00:13:28,057 --> 00:13:30,267 Good. What do you want to do? 201 00:13:32,144 --> 00:13:33,854 Yeah, yeah. No, we should go slow. 202 00:13:33,938 --> 00:13:35,189 How's your foot? 203 00:13:36,148 --> 00:13:37,525 Good, good. 204 00:13:37,608 --> 00:13:38,901 How's it feeling? 205 00:13:40,152 --> 00:13:41,737 Yeah? 206 00:13:41,820 --> 00:13:45,574 So, we will do Leighlynn 16, 207 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:50,120 Monika 17, Shae 18, Jackie 19, Maya... 208 00:13:52,706 --> 00:13:55,209 Maya 20, uh, 209 00:13:55,292 --> 00:13:58,295 Jeannine 21, Jenna 22, 210 00:13:58,379 --> 00:14:01,257 Tene 23, and Kate 24. 211 00:14:01,340 --> 00:14:02,633 All good? 212 00:14:02,716 --> 00:14:03,759 Come on! 213 00:14:03,842 --> 00:14:05,195 The first meeting we had, 214 00:14:05,219 --> 00:14:07,638 Karen just sat me down and said, "Okay, I need your help. 215 00:14:07,721 --> 00:14:09,557 "I need you to make sure that young people 216 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,685 "aren't gonna think this is stupid." 217 00:14:12,768 --> 00:14:14,562 Which is at once, like, a very simple 218 00:14:14,645 --> 00:14:18,357 and very difficult brief to be given. 219 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,918 I've never considered myself 220 00:14:19,942 --> 00:14:21,318 a choreographer. 221 00:14:21,402 --> 00:14:24,530 I knew that I needed someone who could actually choreograph 222 00:14:24,613 --> 00:14:26,073 the new sections. 223 00:14:26,156 --> 00:14:29,618 Robert Binet is a wonderful young choreographer, 224 00:14:29,702 --> 00:14:32,830 and I think he can do some amazing formations 225 00:14:32,913 --> 00:14:36,292 with the swans, making it a little more of today. 226 00:14:36,375 --> 00:14:38,168 Five, a-six, other one... 227 00:14:38,252 --> 00:14:42,172 One-a-two, three-and-a-four, five-a-six, seven, eight. 228 00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:45,968 Now we're crossing to get to two lines. 229 00:14:46,051 --> 00:14:48,345 Five, six, seven, eight... 230 00:14:48,429 --> 00:14:54,268 Go one-a-two, three-a-four, five-a-six, seven-a-eight. 231 00:14:54,351 --> 00:14:55,603 One, two... 232 00:14:55,686 --> 00:14:57,980 Any time you go and see the ballet, 233 00:14:58,063 --> 00:15:00,608 so, for example, Swan Lake, 234 00:15:00,691 --> 00:15:02,776 and you see all the swans on stage, 235 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:04,028 that's the corps. 236 00:15:04,111 --> 00:15:06,155 It means the body of the company. 237 00:15:06,238 --> 00:15:09,658 I don't think you really can have a beautiful ballet 238 00:15:09,742 --> 00:15:11,744 without the corps. 239 00:15:14,455 --> 00:15:16,915 One-a-two, three-a-four... 240 00:15:16,999 --> 00:15:19,585 go, Jeannine... five-a-six, seven-a... 241 00:15:19,668 --> 00:15:20,836 that's gonna look better. 242 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:23,088 Being part of the corps de ballet 243 00:15:23,172 --> 00:15:25,507 means that you are just full-throttle all the time. 244 00:15:25,591 --> 00:15:27,801 You are in every single show. 245 00:15:27,885 --> 00:15:30,012 Arielle, move forwards a little bit. 246 00:15:31,764 --> 00:15:33,474 I was just, like, dying. 247 00:15:33,557 --> 00:15:35,809 Like, my arm felt like it was gonna fall off. 248 00:15:35,893 --> 00:15:37,019 They think you're doing it, 249 00:15:37,102 --> 00:15:39,313 and then they're like, "No, uh, hmm," 250 00:15:39,396 --> 00:15:40,939 and then they start picking it apart. 251 00:15:41,023 --> 00:15:43,442 Space for your head, Erin, and your elbow. 252 00:15:43,525 --> 00:15:45,319 The arm extension, the hand... 253 00:15:45,402 --> 00:15:48,113 There's so many details that go into, like, just to stand. 254 00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:53,160 Good, that's rhythm, ladies! 255 00:15:53,243 --> 00:15:54,578 Good! 256 00:15:54,662 --> 00:15:57,414 Like, and corps work is not always about, like, 257 00:15:57,498 --> 00:16:00,334 pulling your dick out and doing 12 pirouettes, you know? 258 00:16:00,417 --> 00:16:02,961 It's literally like, "Oh," like, "Can you please stand 259 00:16:03,045 --> 00:16:05,506 "on that mark that we told you 17 times?" 260 00:16:07,341 --> 00:16:09,385 Keep the arms moving... 261 00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:10,844 Better! 262 00:16:10,928 --> 00:16:12,054 Up! 263 00:16:12,137 --> 00:16:13,972 Down! 264 00:16:14,056 --> 00:16:15,224 Up! 265 00:16:15,307 --> 00:16:18,352 That unison, the duration, the stillness... 266 00:16:18,435 --> 00:16:20,896 So many things that are so difficult about ballet, 267 00:16:20,979 --> 00:16:24,817 that make ballet so beautiful to watch, are in that ballet. 268 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:28,070 And if I go to see Swan Lake, it's for the corps. 269 00:16:28,153 --> 00:16:30,864 Every damn hand of the corps de ballet 270 00:16:30,948 --> 00:16:33,659 better be exactly where everyone else's damn hand is 271 00:16:33,742 --> 00:16:35,285 in the corps de ballet. 272 00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:38,997 If they're not together, I get really cranky. 273 00:16:39,081 --> 00:16:44,503 So, and one, and two, and a-three, 274 00:16:44,586 --> 00:16:48,424 and a-four, and a-five. 275 00:16:50,259 --> 00:16:53,095 - It wasn't together at all. - It was just visual before. 276 00:16:53,178 --> 00:16:54,972 Working on Swan Lake, you know, 277 00:16:55,055 --> 00:16:56,598 all the formations have to be perfect, 278 00:16:56,682 --> 00:16:58,100 and they have to resolve perfectly 279 00:16:58,183 --> 00:16:59,560 with the tallest people in the back 280 00:16:59,643 --> 00:17:01,353 and the shortest people in the front. 281 00:17:01,437 --> 00:17:04,815 You know, it doesn't matter how good the principal dancer is. 282 00:17:04,898 --> 00:17:07,735 If the corps de ballet around them is a mess, the show's bad. 283 00:17:07,818 --> 00:17:12,197 And that's something Karen is really adamant about, 284 00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:17,536 that, like, the corps de ballet level has to be so high. 285 00:17:17,619 --> 00:17:19,222 Let's try that same section again. 286 00:17:19,246 --> 00:17:21,582 Thank you, ladies. 287 00:17:39,808 --> 00:17:41,310 So, in terms of casting, 288 00:17:41,393 --> 00:17:43,395 well, we've got first cast Jurgita, 289 00:17:43,479 --> 00:17:47,316 Harrison with Jurgita, and then Brendan with Heather, 290 00:17:47,399 --> 00:17:52,738 and then we've got Guillaume, Naoya, Donald, Chris. 291 00:17:52,821 --> 00:17:57,034 And then understudying with have both Ben and Siphe. 292 00:17:57,117 --> 00:17:58,744 The principal dancer 293 00:17:58,827 --> 00:18:00,746 who dances Odette and Odile, 294 00:18:00,829 --> 00:18:02,998 the White Swan and the Black Swan, 295 00:18:03,081 --> 00:18:05,709 has to have a huge number of qualities 296 00:18:05,793 --> 00:18:09,046 because they demand completely different things. 297 00:18:09,129 --> 00:18:12,716 This kind of dichotomy of this beautiful, gentle, 298 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,177 spiritual White Swan, 299 00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:20,933 and then this cunning and seductive Black Swan, 300 00:18:21,016 --> 00:18:23,060 it's a very demanding role. 301 00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:27,439 That's why people really want to test themselves against it. 302 00:18:28,690 --> 00:18:31,485 Well, and if I could work with Jurgita on, like, 303 00:18:31,568 --> 00:18:34,363 incidental Odette stuff, it would be great to have time, 304 00:18:34,446 --> 00:18:36,240 'cause she's our first cast, to, like, 305 00:18:36,323 --> 00:18:37,866 experiment and play with the mime 306 00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:40,202 and how she's gonna do the whole crown, and... 307 00:18:40,285 --> 00:18:43,205 Yeah, and she's got so many other versions in her head. 308 00:18:43,288 --> 00:18:45,582 - Yeah, she'll have ideas. - But I don't... 309 00:18:45,666 --> 00:18:47,751 I don't want to do those other versions. 310 00:18:47,835 --> 00:18:49,002 - No. - I might! 311 00:18:49,086 --> 00:18:50,629 I might. She might convince me. 312 00:18:50,712 --> 00:18:53,549 - Yeah. - She's very convincing. 313 00:18:56,385 --> 00:18:59,930 - This was okay, I think. - Mm-hm. 314 00:19:00,013 --> 00:19:02,599 And pendulum up and down... 315 00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:05,978 and this one's down. Down, down, down... 316 00:19:06,061 --> 00:19:08,230 I think just step... step is not enough, 317 00:19:08,313 --> 00:19:10,232 but I think you might need a little, 318 00:19:10,315 --> 00:19:12,609 "Dee, dee, dah, dah, dah," run, run. 319 00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:14,486 Because you used to do this right away, 320 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:15,696 "dee, dah, dah, dah"... 321 00:19:15,779 --> 00:19:18,156 We didn't have the temps levés, and I think that... 322 00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:27,749 Now you go. 323 00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:29,042 That's it. 324 00:19:29,126 --> 00:19:31,962 Well, the impact of the first cast matters, 325 00:19:32,045 --> 00:19:34,506 because it's, you know, the moment where... 326 00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:37,801 where the production's unveiled. 327 00:19:41,388 --> 00:19:43,974 Um... 328 00:19:44,057 --> 00:19:46,894 Everything. 329 00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:49,187 Jurgita, you know when you... before you start 330 00:19:49,271 --> 00:19:52,399 to come to him for the first time, don't run so far. 331 00:19:52,482 --> 00:19:53,525 - Okay. - You know? 332 00:19:53,609 --> 00:19:55,277 I'm trying to get to the centre, 333 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:57,613 so the girls are around and I see them 334 00:19:57,696 --> 00:19:58,864 being in this position. 335 00:19:58,947 --> 00:20:02,492 Oh, okay, well, then I'll see with everyone. 336 00:20:02,576 --> 00:20:05,996 Me and Karen, we're very different ballerinas. 337 00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:09,249 It's definitely going to be interesting, of... of... 338 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:11,835 what she wants to see, 339 00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:15,839 and how can I make it mine. 340 00:20:15,923 --> 00:20:18,717 Are you... are you saying that I insisted on that? 341 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,802 No, no, no, this is the right what we agreed. 342 00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:21,887 This is what we did. 343 00:20:21,970 --> 00:20:23,197 It's lovely. Let's leave it. 344 00:20:23,221 --> 00:20:24,306 Okay, alright. 345 00:20:24,389 --> 00:20:25,742 We're not gonna change it. Go back. 346 00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:26,642 Okay. 347 00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:28,077 I know what it's like. 348 00:20:28,101 --> 00:20:30,395 Once you've got it figured out, and it works for you, 349 00:20:30,479 --> 00:20:32,314 and you've been successful a certain way, 350 00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:34,566 you... you wanna do that. 351 00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:36,401 And I wanted it a little different. 352 00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:38,725 It wasn't a lot different, but it was a little different. 353 00:20:38,779 --> 00:20:40,530 Jurgita... 354 00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:43,116 Why don't you bravely try doubles? 355 00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:46,912 Well, rond a little more. 356 00:20:46,995 --> 00:20:49,164 Just rond a little... relax your knee. 357 00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:52,167 Are you? 358 00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:55,128 It looks like a really good single. 359 00:20:55,212 --> 00:20:58,674 Okay, just think, "In, in, up!" 360 00:20:58,757 --> 00:21:00,259 No, it can't be on the floor. 361 00:21:00,342 --> 00:21:03,011 Nobody... nobody in the world does them on the floor. 362 00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:07,015 - Up, up... - Brush, in, in, up. 363 00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:08,725 In, in, up. 364 00:21:08,809 --> 00:21:10,435 One second. 365 00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:12,079 It's just doing them quick enough 366 00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:13,855 that you don't knock yourself over. 367 00:21:13,939 --> 00:21:16,149 If you do them slow, it takes too much time. 368 00:21:17,734 --> 00:21:20,028 And one, that's it! 369 00:21:20,112 --> 00:21:22,823 And one... 370 00:21:22,906 --> 00:21:24,533 One... 371 00:21:29,871 --> 00:21:31,748 - This is what I like. - Yeah. 372 00:21:31,832 --> 00:21:33,250 Yeah, this is... 373 00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:35,168 this is exactly right, what they're doing. 374 00:21:35,252 --> 00:21:37,796 I don't know what everybody is doing, but that's exactly... 375 00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:39,047 This is what I like. 376 00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:40,841 This is what I like too. 377 00:21:40,924 --> 00:21:42,884 Want to do your solo? You have four minutes. 378 00:21:42,968 --> 00:21:44,177 I just wanna do the beginning. 379 00:21:44,261 --> 00:21:45,637 Okay. 380 00:21:45,721 --> 00:21:47,556 Okay, yeah. 381 00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:49,141 And... 382 00:21:57,983 --> 00:22:01,319 Jurgita Dronina... 383 00:22:01,403 --> 00:22:03,003 She's kind of extraordinary. 384 00:22:03,030 --> 00:22:05,115 Well, she's a pretty major ballerina. 385 00:22:05,198 --> 00:22:07,492 She's an animal! Like, she eats the stage. 386 00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:10,412 People all over the world know who she is. 387 00:22:10,495 --> 00:22:12,039 When she's on the stage, like, 388 00:22:12,122 --> 00:22:14,624 you can fucking, like, feel. 389 00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:16,793 She used to do a performance 390 00:22:16,877 --> 00:22:18,920 of Sugar Plum Fairy in the Nutcracker here, 391 00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:21,673 go to the airport, get on a night flight to London... 392 00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:22,924 In the makeup still... 393 00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:24,718 Get off the plane, go to the theatre... 394 00:22:24,801 --> 00:22:26,386 - Warm up... - Do the show there... 395 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:28,013 Run straight to the airport, 396 00:22:28,096 --> 00:22:30,265 take the flight overnight, sleep on the flight, 397 00:22:30,348 --> 00:22:31,975 and the next day perform. 398 00:22:32,059 --> 00:22:35,687 Never heard of anyone else doing that! 399 00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:42,778 I was born in Saratov in Russia. 400 00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:46,156 Our relatives in Lithuania 401 00:22:46,239 --> 00:22:49,034 said that the Soviet Union was going to collapse. 402 00:22:53,121 --> 00:22:56,458 And we better get back to Lithuania, ASAP. 403 00:22:56,541 --> 00:22:58,585 She packed the bags. 404 00:22:58,668 --> 00:23:02,339 Soviet Union collapsed... war, tanks. 405 00:23:02,422 --> 00:23:04,966 That was the beginning of the end. 406 00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:09,363 By this evening, the demonstrators outside 407 00:23:09,387 --> 00:23:11,640 the Lubyanka were beginning to claim Moscow 408 00:23:11,723 --> 00:23:13,558 as their own. 409 00:23:15,644 --> 00:23:18,105 When my father arrived to Lithuania, 410 00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:20,315 he did not fit in. 411 00:23:20,398 --> 00:23:24,486 Our life changed from being a normal family 412 00:23:24,569 --> 00:23:29,366 to a very violent and abusive family. 413 00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:32,994 We lost literally everything. 414 00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:35,997 We lost all the documents; we lost housing. 415 00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:38,291 We lost everything, he burned everything. 416 00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:41,545 We were on the street. 417 00:23:41,628 --> 00:23:46,883 And we literally sent my father away by train, 418 00:23:48,844 --> 00:23:51,179 and we said, "Please never come back. 419 00:23:51,263 --> 00:23:54,766 "Please promise to never, ever be back." 420 00:23:56,977 --> 00:23:58,603 And that's when the story came 421 00:23:58,687 --> 00:24:02,440 that I was given a chance to go to ballet school 422 00:24:02,524 --> 00:24:06,278 and live in the dorm instead. 423 00:24:06,361 --> 00:24:09,614 And have food! 424 00:24:09,698 --> 00:24:13,285 Have electricity, and have a chance to create a life. 425 00:24:15,829 --> 00:24:18,707 That childhood has formed her as a mother, 426 00:24:18,790 --> 00:24:21,877 as a wife, and definitely as a dancer. 427 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,131 You can't hide who you are when you're on stage, 428 00:24:26,214 --> 00:24:29,509 because she's seen stuff that, as kids, not many have. 429 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:37,142 It was not just doing a pink tutu and ribbons dance. 430 00:24:37,225 --> 00:24:40,145 I saw it as a way of living. 431 00:25:40,163 --> 00:25:41,957 We're talking weeks now 432 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,585 before we'd have to start, you know, distributing tights. 433 00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:49,339 And why can't we just have bare legs? 434 00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:51,258 We can. 435 00:25:51,341 --> 00:25:53,301 I mean, maybe I won't like it, 436 00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,512 but I-I watch it in contemporary works 437 00:25:55,595 --> 00:25:57,013 and I think it looks fantastic. 438 00:25:57,097 --> 00:25:59,099 I'm only concerned that we get there 439 00:25:59,182 --> 00:26:00,809 and a week beforehand, you just think, 440 00:26:00,892 --> 00:26:02,644 "I would love to see something else," 441 00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:04,312 and that we didn't prepare for that. 442 00:26:04,396 --> 00:26:05,647 If you're ready, that's fine. 443 00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:08,191 It's just that I wanted... I wanted it to look like skin. 444 00:26:08,275 --> 00:26:09,715 I didn't want it to look like tights. 445 00:26:09,776 --> 00:26:11,837 No, Karen, I want exactly what you want. 446 00:26:11,861 --> 00:26:13,321 I only worry for you. 447 00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:15,657 I just got worried about the idea... 448 00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:18,034 In 2020, we had conversations 449 00:26:18,118 --> 00:26:20,495 with the dancers in the company, 450 00:26:20,578 --> 00:26:24,082 and I had no idea that this was an issue for them, 451 00:26:24,165 --> 00:26:26,835 but I found out that wearing tights 452 00:26:26,918 --> 00:26:30,046 that weren't their skin colour bothered them. 453 00:26:30,130 --> 00:26:31,756 It just never occurred to me. 454 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,842 And then I started thinking, for Swan Lake, 455 00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:36,219 when they're in the corps de ballet, 456 00:26:36,303 --> 00:26:39,055 they don't have to all have pink legs. 457 00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:42,100 That's always been tradition with Swan Lake. 458 00:26:44,978 --> 00:26:48,106 After the murder of George Floyd in 2020, 459 00:26:48,189 --> 00:26:51,318 if I had to use one word about 460 00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:55,280 what happened within the world of ballet, it would be fear. 461 00:26:55,363 --> 00:26:58,116 And that was the fear of being looked at 462 00:26:58,199 --> 00:27:02,787 very, very, very closely. 463 00:27:02,871 --> 00:27:07,000 The world of ballet is having a very slow reckoning 464 00:27:07,083 --> 00:27:12,714 with its deep, long problem of racism. 465 00:27:12,797 --> 00:27:15,967 I think Karen was called on to address 466 00:27:16,051 --> 00:27:19,804 some biases, especially when it comes to casting and hiring. 467 00:27:19,888 --> 00:27:22,390 Swan Lake, for hundreds and hundreds of years, 468 00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:25,602 has been all these women in pink or white tights, 469 00:27:25,685 --> 00:27:27,854 white tutus, looking identical 470 00:27:27,937 --> 00:27:31,733 and, back in Karen's day, painted white. 471 00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:35,236 Well, certainly, I've been on a journey, too. 472 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,114 I mean, I was brought up on the stereotypes 473 00:27:38,198 --> 00:27:42,035 of how dancers are cast. 474 00:27:42,118 --> 00:27:43,721 We have dancers that are Black, 475 00:27:43,745 --> 00:27:45,121 we have people of colour. 476 00:27:45,205 --> 00:27:48,750 So when you wear, like, white tights or pink tights 477 00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:51,127 and pink shoes, it's not one long line, 478 00:27:51,211 --> 00:27:54,255 which was the intention. 479 00:27:54,339 --> 00:27:56,257 And it's frustrating 'cause it's like 480 00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:59,594 a sense of impostor syndrome that you didn't create. 481 00:28:02,639 --> 00:28:03,741 I really want to try it. 482 00:28:03,765 --> 00:28:05,642 I really want to seriously try it. 483 00:28:05,725 --> 00:28:08,269 Like, even if we go to the rough dress and do it. 484 00:28:08,353 --> 00:28:10,522 No, but I think this is a good plan, 485 00:28:10,605 --> 00:28:13,108 and I think we have to be very clear, 486 00:28:13,191 --> 00:28:15,944 like us with the dancers, you with the dancers, 487 00:28:16,027 --> 00:28:17,654 that Karen will make this decision. 488 00:28:17,737 --> 00:28:20,198 Like, nobody gets to say, "I want to wear tights, 489 00:28:20,281 --> 00:28:21,574 "I don't want to wear tights." 490 00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:23,378 Like, when we're saying there's two options, 491 00:28:23,451 --> 00:28:24,744 they are Karen's options; 492 00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:26,496 they are not everybody's options. 493 00:28:26,579 --> 00:28:28,456 Yeah. 494 00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:57,944 Hey, Mom. Do you have a minute? 495 00:28:58,027 --> 00:29:00,989 I'm doing Odile. Odette/Odile. 496 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,575 I know! 497 00:29:03,658 --> 00:29:04,784 Like, it's official. 498 00:29:04,868 --> 00:29:08,121 I'm learning it with Chris. 499 00:29:08,204 --> 00:29:10,165 I know! 500 00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:11,916 Oh my God! 501 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,002 I... Oh my gosh. 502 00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:17,672 I know, I can't... It still hasn't processed yet. 503 00:29:17,755 --> 00:29:23,553 Genevieve's the new one on the block, as they say! 504 00:29:23,636 --> 00:29:26,764 Each cast needs to rest between shows, 505 00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:28,933 because it's so demanding. 506 00:29:29,017 --> 00:29:30,685 Otherwise they'll get injured. 507 00:29:30,768 --> 00:29:34,272 So you need at least four casts to even get through one week. 508 00:29:34,355 --> 00:29:36,191 And then that sort of sits... 509 00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:39,569 I mean, I was thrown into Swan Lake when I was 19. 510 00:29:40,528 --> 00:29:41,696 Woo, woop! Caught it. 511 00:29:41,779 --> 00:29:43,198 That's okay. 512 00:29:47,827 --> 00:29:49,913 Have fun! 513 00:29:49,996 --> 00:29:52,165 I will. 514 00:29:55,043 --> 00:30:00,131 This is a big opportunity for me at my age. 515 00:30:00,215 --> 00:30:02,133 Yes, village girl! 516 00:30:02,217 --> 00:30:04,219 I don't think most people can say 517 00:30:04,302 --> 00:30:05,821 they started their career with Swan Lake. 518 00:30:05,845 --> 00:30:07,085 Are you from Bridgerton? 519 00:30:07,138 --> 00:30:09,557 Bridgerton, yeah, yeah! 520 00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:10,934 Guys, it's a mermaid! 521 00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:18,650 Whenever you go up the ranks really quickly, 522 00:30:18,733 --> 00:30:20,360 there's resentment. 523 00:30:20,443 --> 00:30:23,321 And even though they're all good people, 524 00:30:23,404 --> 00:30:25,865 it's just human nature. 525 00:30:37,001 --> 00:30:40,922 Why, are you trying to make me a villain? 526 00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:42,685 I actually have to, like, fight my jealousy 527 00:30:42,715 --> 00:30:47,679 because I know it's not, like, useful to anyone, you know? 528 00:30:47,762 --> 00:30:49,389 And I am really happy for her 529 00:30:49,472 --> 00:30:51,307 and I know she's gonna be really good. 530 00:30:51,391 --> 00:30:53,560 But of course, I'm like so jealous, 531 00:30:53,643 --> 00:30:55,311 and every time I'm like, "Ugh!" 532 00:30:55,395 --> 00:30:58,439 But I know I, like, could not do it so... 533 00:30:58,523 --> 00:30:59,983 yeah. 534 00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:03,486 Hopefully I'll get to, like, I don't know, 535 00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:07,073 use some of this 'big sad' one day on stage. 536 00:31:07,156 --> 00:31:10,368 That's all I can hope for. 537 00:31:10,451 --> 00:31:12,620 And work for. 538 00:31:17,917 --> 00:31:21,838 I should also say I don't really actually, like, know how to... 539 00:31:21,921 --> 00:31:24,132 um, make anything. 540 00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:26,884 I just, like... 541 00:31:26,968 --> 00:31:30,388 mess around with all of my stuff all the time. 542 00:31:30,471 --> 00:31:33,850 I was homeschooled, 543 00:31:33,933 --> 00:31:35,893 um... 544 00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:38,605 with a heavy emphasis on the home, 545 00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:41,858 less of an emphasis on the schooling. 546 00:31:41,941 --> 00:31:45,737 They were, like, did not want me or my siblings 547 00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:49,824 to be learning from a place that, like, 548 00:31:49,907 --> 00:31:53,077 taught or believed in evolution. 549 00:31:53,161 --> 00:31:56,414 They were, like, "The Devil's work is done in public schools!" 550 00:31:58,124 --> 00:32:03,671 It says, "Socialist, Marxist, Libertarian, Slut." 551 00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:06,758 That's me! 552 00:32:06,841 --> 00:32:11,220 Hi, Bubba! 553 00:32:11,304 --> 00:32:12,430 Caroline's in Germany. 554 00:32:12,513 --> 00:32:14,641 - How's it going? - It's good. Look. 555 00:32:16,809 --> 00:32:18,269 - Cheers! - Cheers! 556 00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:21,939 - Happy Easter! - Happy Easter. 557 00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:26,778 My mom worked as, like, the receptionist 558 00:32:26,861 --> 00:32:28,988 at my ballet studio. 559 00:32:29,072 --> 00:32:31,532 My brother and I used to clean the studios 560 00:32:31,616 --> 00:32:33,868 because we couldn't afford classes. 561 00:32:33,951 --> 00:32:37,205 I mean, of course some half-Mexican kid 562 00:32:37,288 --> 00:32:41,542 that's cleaning the studios, you're gonna be picked on. 563 00:32:41,626 --> 00:32:45,421 I just wanted to fit into the pink box so bad 564 00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:46,714 when I was little. 565 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:50,301 I would, like, check the box with like a cross for Jesus. 566 00:32:55,390 --> 00:33:00,895 I would pray so much just to, like, not be queer, to, like, 567 00:33:00,978 --> 00:33:04,273 not be sad, to have, 568 00:33:04,357 --> 00:33:06,484 like, my mom be happy. 569 00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:10,196 I would, like, pray all the time. 570 00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:12,448 For Shae to make it this far 571 00:33:12,532 --> 00:33:14,200 is kind of crazy, 572 00:33:14,283 --> 00:33:16,411 considering what she had to put herself through 573 00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:21,249 to show up and, like, take a ballet class every day. 574 00:33:21,332 --> 00:33:23,126 I had to, like, find sponsors 575 00:33:23,209 --> 00:33:24,460 so I could get pointe shoes. 576 00:33:24,544 --> 00:33:26,504 Like, I had to, like, do fundraising; 577 00:33:26,587 --> 00:33:30,133 I had to work in my ballet schools. 578 00:33:30,216 --> 00:33:32,844 She is gonna be a principal dancer 579 00:33:32,927 --> 00:33:34,929 somewhere, sometime, for sure. 580 00:33:35,012 --> 00:33:39,851 There's, like, nothing stopping her, except, like, herself. 581 00:33:39,934 --> 00:33:41,245 She's incredibly talented, 582 00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:43,354 and she's incredibly hard on herself, 583 00:33:43,438 --> 00:33:45,690 which is a tough combination. 584 00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:50,486 Being in a room where I don't belong, 585 00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:55,992 that's been, like, the thing, since I was a kid. 586 00:33:56,075 --> 00:34:01,205 It's hard, like, to have a personality that isn't, like... 587 00:34:01,289 --> 00:34:04,584 it's in direct conflict with, like, 588 00:34:04,667 --> 00:34:08,546 the thing you love most in the world, you know? 589 00:34:29,525 --> 00:34:32,528 Rothbart represents 590 00:34:32,612 --> 00:34:36,991 the evil quality of men. 591 00:34:37,074 --> 00:34:39,619 You know, you live long enough and you see the evil 592 00:34:39,702 --> 00:34:43,206 that men are capable of. 593 00:34:43,289 --> 00:34:45,333 It happens in the real world 594 00:34:45,416 --> 00:34:48,169 and it also happens in this fairy tale. 595 00:34:56,427 --> 00:34:58,846 The resistance of the corps de ballet 596 00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:01,557 to Rothbart is something unique to this production, 597 00:35:01,641 --> 00:35:03,935 and it's not totally clear yet. 598 00:35:04,018 --> 00:35:07,355 I need to make it clear and I'm not totally sure how. 599 00:35:12,235 --> 00:35:14,821 The idea has been that Rothbart can control 600 00:35:14,904 --> 00:35:16,948 not just the women but the weather, 601 00:35:17,031 --> 00:35:19,784 and he creates these huge storms 602 00:35:19,867 --> 00:35:22,328 that get more and more wild and violent, 603 00:35:22,411 --> 00:35:25,289 and we see those in the shape of the women 604 00:35:25,373 --> 00:35:27,041 because they are sucked into the storm 605 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:31,337 and essentially become the storm unwillingly. 606 00:35:31,420 --> 00:35:34,048 What I really want to do is make sure 607 00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:37,510 that we can understand that the swans 608 00:35:37,593 --> 00:35:40,721 are women who have been abducted, 609 00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:45,143 and they are trapped women, they're not birds. 610 00:35:45,226 --> 00:35:47,979 They've been forced to dress a certain way 611 00:35:48,062 --> 00:35:52,567 that appeals to this very sick man. 612 00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:53,901 Rothbart... 613 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:55,403 He's abducted these women. 614 00:35:55,486 --> 00:35:56,946 He has abducted them 615 00:35:57,029 --> 00:35:58,698 and he has forced them to wear... 616 00:35:58,781 --> 00:36:00,116 Yes. 617 00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:05,037 Swan costumes in order to satisfy his craziness? 618 00:36:05,121 --> 00:36:06,664 Wow, I didn't hear this before. 619 00:36:06,747 --> 00:36:08,225 He's ordered them to dress a certain way 620 00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:10,167 - because it gets him off. - Wow. 621 00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:11,836 Oh, I haven't told you about this! 622 00:36:11,919 --> 00:36:15,339 - No, you haven't! - Yeah, that's how I'm seeing it. 623 00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:26,267 Okay, I want to do that whole section 624 00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:28,436 one more time, and then we'll go on. 625 00:36:30,771 --> 00:36:32,491 You know, every time she comes 626 00:36:32,523 --> 00:36:34,525 to see a section I've made, I'm nervous, 627 00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:37,695 because, you know, all these big group numbers are a ton of work 628 00:36:37,778 --> 00:36:40,031 to get them looking like something. 629 00:36:43,951 --> 00:36:46,829 She's been a mentor to me my whole career 630 00:36:46,913 --> 00:36:49,540 and has really, like, guided my development 631 00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:50,875 as a choreographer, 632 00:36:50,958 --> 00:36:54,462 so her liking it is really special to me. 633 00:36:58,257 --> 00:36:59,717 Um... 634 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,553 Shanae, you're just a half-beat late there. 635 00:37:02,637 --> 00:37:04,347 I think let's do that one more time, 636 00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:05,910 'cause it's getting better every time. 637 00:37:05,973 --> 00:37:09,393 And one-two-three, two-two-three, three-two-three, 638 00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:13,230 four-two-three, five-two-three, six-two-three, seven-two-three, 639 00:37:13,314 --> 00:37:17,360 eight-two-three, five-two-three, two-two-three, three-two-three, 640 00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:20,655 four-two-three, five-two-three, six-two... 641 00:37:20,738 --> 00:37:21,822 Good. 642 00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:25,576 Uh, was that in front of Monika that time, 643 00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:26,869 or behind Monika? 644 00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:28,913 Okay. And... 645 00:37:28,996 --> 00:37:32,917 One-two-three, two-two-three, three-two-three, four-two-three, 646 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,921 five-two-three, six-two-three, one-two-three, two-two-three, 647 00:37:37,004 --> 00:37:41,175 three-two-three, four-two-three, five-two-three, six-two-three, 648 00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:42,468 seven-two-three... 649 00:37:42,551 --> 00:37:44,136 Shit, sorry, sorry, sorry. 650 00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:46,180 You just have to turn around sooner. 651 00:37:46,263 --> 00:37:47,431 Okay, one more time. 652 00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:53,396 I'm just trying to show them as really human, 653 00:37:53,479 --> 00:37:54,772 right before the end. 654 00:37:54,855 --> 00:37:56,983 We're going far, and we may have to pull it back, 655 00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:58,442 but it's like they try to... 656 00:37:58,526 --> 00:38:00,069 they try to rebel against Rothbart 657 00:38:00,152 --> 00:38:01,904 and he knocks them all to the floor, 658 00:38:01,988 --> 00:38:04,007 and they have this moment where they're trying to recover, 659 00:38:04,031 --> 00:38:06,409 and then he turns them back into birds at the end. 660 00:38:06,492 --> 00:38:07,732 - Okay. - So we're just playing. 661 00:38:07,785 --> 00:38:08,786 Okay, okay. 662 00:38:08,869 --> 00:38:10,371 Okay... 663 00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:18,212 So, five, six, seven, eight... 664 00:38:18,295 --> 00:38:23,926 And one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight... 665 00:38:24,010 --> 00:38:27,013 One, two, three, four... 666 00:38:57,877 --> 00:38:59,754 Good. Thank you! 667 00:38:59,837 --> 00:39:01,005 What do you think? 668 00:39:01,088 --> 00:39:02,288 It's interesting, yeah. 669 00:39:02,339 --> 00:39:03,483 It's interesting? 670 00:39:03,507 --> 00:39:05,009 It's the first time to see it. 671 00:39:05,092 --> 00:39:08,387 Let's try it one more time with that shift, please. 672 00:39:08,471 --> 00:39:11,057 This was always gonna be a tricky moment 673 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:15,644 because Karen's way is always that she needs to see things 674 00:39:15,728 --> 00:39:17,438 and then make decisions. 675 00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:20,274 But, like, it's such a gentle evolution. 676 00:39:20,357 --> 00:39:23,694 And so I'm saying, like, "You see it now. 677 00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:25,029 "What do you want?" 678 00:39:25,112 --> 00:39:27,531 And she's still like, "Well, I don't really see it yet." 679 00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:30,201 And I'm like, "I know it's not perfect, but it's there, 680 00:39:30,284 --> 00:39:32,620 "and we need to start making calls." 681 00:39:32,703 --> 00:39:33,871 Thank you. 682 00:39:33,954 --> 00:39:37,333 Okay, I need to sleep on it. 683 00:39:37,416 --> 00:39:39,126 Do you have any thoughts? 684 00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:40,377 No. 685 00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:42,088 No. 686 00:39:42,171 --> 00:39:43,506 I-I'm just absorbing. 687 00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:44,673 Yeah, same. 688 00:39:47,301 --> 00:39:48,969 Endings are tough. 689 00:40:03,442 --> 00:40:04,819 I did an audition. 690 00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:10,074 Like, I did a proper audition for the National Ballet at 18. 691 00:40:10,157 --> 00:40:11,867 But then, a year later, 692 00:40:11,951 --> 00:40:14,161 suddenly the ballerinas were injured, 693 00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:16,956 and we were going on tour, 694 00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:18,958 and I had to learn it. 695 00:40:19,041 --> 00:40:23,504 The whole thing, Swan Lake, on tour, all over the US. 696 00:40:23,587 --> 00:40:24,964 Not long after that, 697 00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:27,383 Rudolf Nureyev came to the tour with us, 698 00:40:27,466 --> 00:40:31,178 and from the moment Rudolf laid his eyes on me, 699 00:40:31,262 --> 00:40:33,931 he decided that I was going to be his protégé 700 00:40:34,014 --> 00:40:35,891 and he was going to help me. 701 00:40:35,975 --> 00:40:36,975 Reach down, hand. 702 00:40:37,017 --> 00:40:38,769 - Reach down. - Okay, that'll slow it down. 703 00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:41,897 Rudolf had just filled my sails with air 704 00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:46,569 and I lived on that for a number of years. 705 00:40:46,652 --> 00:40:51,365 And then I didn't have it, and that was hard. 706 00:40:51,448 --> 00:40:53,409 I did not do well. 707 00:40:53,492 --> 00:40:55,452 I quit dancing for a while, 708 00:40:55,536 --> 00:40:59,790 and the love of dance could not overpower the anxiety 709 00:40:59,874 --> 00:41:05,171 and the feeling that I wasn't worthy of all of this attention. 710 00:41:05,254 --> 00:41:07,506 Do you overwork? 711 00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:10,801 I felt that I have, during the last year. 712 00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:15,389 I've just pushed myself almost to the point of going too far, 713 00:41:15,472 --> 00:41:18,184 and I think this is something I have to be very careful of. 714 00:41:18,267 --> 00:41:19,810 Something eventually gives out. 715 00:41:19,894 --> 00:41:23,189 If it's... if it's not an ankle or a knee or a back, 716 00:41:23,272 --> 00:41:27,067 it's your morale that just drops very low. 717 00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:29,320 When I took over as artistic director, 718 00:41:29,403 --> 00:41:31,405 we were deeply in debt. 719 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:33,282 Please join me in welcoming 720 00:41:33,365 --> 00:41:35,659 the new artistic director, Karen Kain. 721 00:41:37,077 --> 00:41:39,413 We were losing support. 722 00:41:39,496 --> 00:41:43,250 I tried my best to help keep the company afloat. 723 00:41:43,334 --> 00:41:46,837 I felt desperate to do that because this organization 724 00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:51,592 has been my life from the time I was 18 years old, 725 00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:53,636 and it's given me everything. 726 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,014 Sorry. 727 00:41:57,097 --> 00:42:01,518 And, um, I felt it was going into bankruptcy, 728 00:42:01,602 --> 00:42:03,687 basically, at that point. 729 00:42:03,771 --> 00:42:06,565 There were some very dark days 730 00:42:06,649 --> 00:42:11,570 in my early years as artistic director. 731 00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:13,822 I was completely terrified. 732 00:42:13,906 --> 00:42:16,617 I would have heart palpitations, like really bad, 733 00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:18,661 but that was my nature. 734 00:42:18,744 --> 00:42:20,204 I was like that as a child. 735 00:42:20,287 --> 00:42:23,207 You know, it just was who I was. 736 00:42:25,542 --> 00:42:28,379 So I still have anxiety with Swan Lake, 737 00:42:28,462 --> 00:42:32,007 just with my heart rate and everything. 738 00:42:32,091 --> 00:42:37,263 The responsibility is enormous. 739 00:42:37,346 --> 00:42:41,392 I was thinking again today that we thought 740 00:42:41,475 --> 00:42:44,603 we were gonna do this two years ago. 741 00:42:44,687 --> 00:42:46,981 We would have been more rushed, 742 00:42:47,064 --> 00:42:48,607 but I would have been younger 743 00:42:48,691 --> 00:42:50,484 and would've had a lot more energy. 744 00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:19,930 Hey! 745 00:43:20,014 --> 00:43:21,682 Hello! 746 00:43:22,683 --> 00:43:24,893 It's so exciting! 747 00:43:27,688 --> 00:43:29,440 It's so pretty! 748 00:43:29,523 --> 00:43:31,692 We're just testing out to see whether or not 749 00:43:31,775 --> 00:43:33,193 bare legs is gonna feel comfortable 750 00:43:33,277 --> 00:43:35,612 while we're dancing and if there's any adjustments 751 00:43:35,696 --> 00:43:38,699 we need to make, or what we can do so everyone feels 752 00:43:38,782 --> 00:43:41,035 like their best selves. 753 00:43:41,994 --> 00:43:43,287 I hate this. 754 00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:44,663 Oh, no! 755 00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:46,373 Oh my God, cut! 756 00:43:47,833 --> 00:43:49,501 I... no. 757 00:43:51,378 --> 00:43:53,255 No, no, the bare legs. 758 00:43:53,339 --> 00:43:54,381 Oh, I see. 759 00:43:54,465 --> 00:43:55,608 It's very uncomfortable. 760 00:43:55,632 --> 00:43:57,426 Well... 761 00:43:57,509 --> 00:43:59,428 One by one, here we go... 762 00:43:59,511 --> 00:44:03,057 I can't see, like, my toes, to like, go down. 763 00:44:03,140 --> 00:44:06,060 When I was auditioning 764 00:44:06,143 --> 00:44:07,895 for the Australian ballet school, 765 00:44:07,978 --> 00:44:12,900 my mom, I was old enough for her to sort of talk to me 766 00:44:12,983 --> 00:44:15,069 about being a Black woman, like, 767 00:44:15,152 --> 00:44:18,697 in society and all of that, and she said, you know, 768 00:44:18,781 --> 00:44:21,408 "It is going to be harder for you 769 00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:23,410 "regardless of what career you are in; 770 00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:25,204 "it's just going to be harder, 771 00:44:25,287 --> 00:44:27,247 "so as long as you're prepared to do the work, 772 00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:31,043 "that's all that matters." 773 00:44:31,126 --> 00:44:32,366 Oh, that looks amazing. 774 00:44:32,419 --> 00:44:33,670 Bare legs. 775 00:44:45,557 --> 00:44:47,393 Cut? 776 00:44:47,476 --> 00:44:50,813 Yeah. 777 00:44:50,896 --> 00:44:54,358 The whole idea was that they're these trapped women 778 00:44:54,441 --> 00:44:56,693 and they all have different skin colours, 779 00:44:56,777 --> 00:44:58,862 so the discussion is around, 780 00:44:58,946 --> 00:45:04,493 "If we just wear our skin, my shoes won't match," or... 781 00:45:04,576 --> 00:45:06,262 "What if I'm sweating?" and, "What if this?" 782 00:45:06,286 --> 00:45:07,371 and, "What if that?" 783 00:45:12,584 --> 00:45:14,378 I know, right? 784 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,802 So, we decided we'd start Tirion on centre. 785 00:45:21,885 --> 00:45:24,805 And then, I mean, if we can get all the way to Brenna on centre, 786 00:45:24,888 --> 00:45:27,558 that would be ideal 'cause then we go back the other way. 787 00:45:27,641 --> 00:45:29,059 And... 788 00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:41,405 It's definitely been hard to see, 789 00:45:41,488 --> 00:45:44,116 like, the lack of enthusiasm, I think, 790 00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:46,368 from peers and colleagues. 791 00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:49,830 We're like, "This is a huge thing for us, 792 00:45:49,913 --> 00:45:54,001 "to finally get to be ourselves on stage," 793 00:45:54,084 --> 00:45:56,462 and it looks better on... in my opinion, 794 00:45:56,545 --> 00:46:01,633 I think it looks better on everybody. 795 00:46:01,717 --> 00:46:04,595 With ballet, everyone wants to be... 796 00:46:04,678 --> 00:46:07,014 like, you want to honour the tradition. 797 00:46:07,097 --> 00:46:09,600 But racism isn't a good tradition. 798 00:46:20,027 --> 00:46:21,570 I think they look beautiful. 799 00:46:21,653 --> 00:46:22,863 - Yeah? - Yeah. 800 00:46:22,946 --> 00:46:24,386 You happy with the bare legs? 801 00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:26,992 - I am. - Great. 802 00:46:27,075 --> 00:46:28,410 We'll do it. 803 00:46:28,494 --> 00:46:30,496 So, bare legs means that everybody 804 00:46:30,579 --> 00:46:32,706 has to pancake their shoes. 805 00:46:34,249 --> 00:46:35,249 Cool. 806 00:46:35,292 --> 00:46:37,336 Okay, so let's go... 807 00:46:37,419 --> 00:46:39,230 Is it okay to let the ladies get out of costume now? 808 00:46:39,254 --> 00:46:40,547 Yeah, yeah. 809 00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:42,942 Okay, so ladies who are in costume, you can get out. 810 00:46:42,966 --> 00:46:45,719 We're gonna go to the top of Act 4 and just start putting... 811 00:47:06,406 --> 00:47:08,242 - Hey. - Hey. 812 00:47:08,325 --> 00:47:09,826 Can we go in the hallway? 813 00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:10,929 - Is that okay? - Yeah, yeah. 814 00:47:10,953 --> 00:47:11,995 Okay. 815 00:47:20,796 --> 00:47:23,924 Sorry. 816 00:47:24,007 --> 00:47:27,928 So, for the costumes, y'all have like fully decided, 817 00:47:28,011 --> 00:47:29,638 like, no one's wearing tights, right? 818 00:47:29,721 --> 00:47:31,139 That's what Karen wants. 819 00:47:31,223 --> 00:47:33,600 Okay, 'cause, like, you know my whole, like, 820 00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:35,644 thing that happened in December? 821 00:47:35,727 --> 00:47:36,812 No. 822 00:47:36,895 --> 00:47:38,206 Where I was, like, in the hospital. 823 00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:40,440 Oh, I don't have details, but I mean... 824 00:47:40,524 --> 00:47:42,150 Well, basically I just like, 825 00:47:42,234 --> 00:47:44,444 really, like, I went crazy and, like, cut my legs 826 00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:46,029 and had to get 75 stitches. 827 00:47:46,113 --> 00:47:47,447 Oh my God. 828 00:47:47,531 --> 00:47:49,700 And it was almost like to the muscle, so... 829 00:47:49,783 --> 00:47:52,828 I just have like really, really, like bad scars 830 00:47:52,911 --> 00:47:55,122 - that are still, like, purple. - Ah, okay. 831 00:47:55,205 --> 00:47:57,499 - Okay. - And, like, really raised. 832 00:47:57,583 --> 00:47:59,960 Like, I tried to like cover them, 833 00:48:00,043 --> 00:48:01,503 - but it doesn't do anything. - Yeah. 834 00:48:01,587 --> 00:48:04,256 - I can, like, take a picture... - I mean, I believe you. 835 00:48:04,339 --> 00:48:05,608 You don't need to prove it to me. 836 00:48:05,632 --> 00:48:07,092 Um... 837 00:48:07,175 --> 00:48:08,653 I'll just need to brainstorm with Stacy. 838 00:48:08,677 --> 00:48:10,446 - Okay, yeah. - We'll come up with a solution. 839 00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:12,472 Okay, just checking, 'cause I was like... 840 00:48:12,556 --> 00:48:15,058 I don't want it to be, like, distracting. 841 00:48:15,142 --> 00:48:17,769 No, I mean, I... um... 842 00:48:17,853 --> 00:48:19,396 It's also gonna be about... 843 00:48:19,479 --> 00:48:21,982 like, is it important to you that they're covered, 844 00:48:22,065 --> 00:48:23,233 or are you worried about us? 845 00:48:23,317 --> 00:48:24,961 Well, it's like... I'm worried about you guys. 846 00:48:24,985 --> 00:48:26,570 Okay, cool. Thank you so much. 847 00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:29,531 - Sorry, Rob. - No, don't apologize. 848 00:48:35,203 --> 00:48:40,208 I had a really bad, um, 849 00:48:40,292 --> 00:48:44,379 depressive episode and I went a little crazy 850 00:48:44,463 --> 00:48:46,757 and slipped back into, um, 851 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,510 some bad habits I had when I was younger. 852 00:49:03,857 --> 00:49:06,985 We had done the last show and, like, 853 00:49:07,069 --> 00:49:10,947 I was hanging out with people, and I got so in my head. 854 00:49:11,031 --> 00:49:15,035 I thought, like, everyone hated me. 855 00:49:15,118 --> 00:49:17,788 I... 856 00:49:17,871 --> 00:49:20,540 When in reality, I just hate myself! 857 00:49:25,337 --> 00:49:29,216 Ballet is the only thing that, like, 858 00:49:29,299 --> 00:49:31,176 helps me, like... 859 00:49:31,259 --> 00:49:33,553 It's like my... 860 00:49:33,637 --> 00:49:36,306 It's like my angel, you know? 861 00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:40,060 But it's also, like, my fucking demon. 862 00:49:40,143 --> 00:49:42,121 It's, like, amazing how much she, like, 863 00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:46,024 bounces back, like, every time something happens. 864 00:49:46,108 --> 00:49:47,567 Like... 865 00:49:47,651 --> 00:49:49,319 She just loves ballet so much, like, 866 00:49:49,403 --> 00:49:53,198 even though it destroys her. 867 00:49:55,951 --> 00:49:57,744 It's like I'm in, like, 868 00:49:57,828 --> 00:50:01,123 an unrequited love situation. 869 00:50:01,206 --> 00:50:03,750 Like, I love ballet, and sometimes it feels like 870 00:50:03,834 --> 00:50:06,670 it doesn't love me back, you know? 871 00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:47,586 Approved? 872 00:50:47,669 --> 00:50:50,130 I have two bad options, so... 873 00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:53,800 the best out of the bad is to get injection. 874 00:50:53,884 --> 00:50:56,553 Okay, okay... 875 00:51:01,808 --> 00:51:04,644 I don't talk about this injury. 876 00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:09,274 I don't think even my colleagues really know. 877 00:51:09,357 --> 00:51:10,984 I just don't talk about it. 878 00:51:11,067 --> 00:51:13,653 I just deal with it, every single day. 879 00:51:16,907 --> 00:51:21,578 I've had this nerve injury for about eight years. 880 00:51:21,661 --> 00:51:26,374 When the nerve starts hurting, it causes spasms. 881 00:51:30,712 --> 00:51:31,963 The pain is, 882 00:51:32,047 --> 00:51:36,968 I can't even tell you the strength of the actual pain. 883 00:51:37,052 --> 00:51:38,678 You scream. 884 00:51:38,762 --> 00:51:40,680 Like day and night, I would go up the stairs 885 00:51:40,764 --> 00:51:43,141 and I would just scream from pain. 886 00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:48,438 Sometimes therapy is enough to release the nerve, 887 00:51:48,522 --> 00:51:49,523 and sometimes it's not, 888 00:51:49,606 --> 00:51:51,107 and then I have to get an injection. 889 00:51:51,191 --> 00:51:53,068 Sorry, sorry. Come back down. 890 00:51:53,151 --> 00:51:55,362 This injection carries a risk. 891 00:51:55,445 --> 00:51:59,324 It's a trigger point... you hit one, everything goes. 892 00:51:59,407 --> 00:52:03,245 And Swan Lake is in two and a half weeks. 893 00:52:05,288 --> 00:52:08,667 Any other person probably would have stopped a long time ago. 894 00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:11,586 But I refuse because it's part of me, it's who I am, 895 00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:13,964 it's my identity. 896 00:52:14,047 --> 00:52:16,925 And where I feel human. 897 00:52:17,008 --> 00:52:20,303 What ballet means to me is so much that, again, 898 00:52:20,387 --> 00:52:23,974 I just refuse to accept this. 899 00:52:43,451 --> 00:52:45,036 It's a massive show, 900 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,414 and it's an important production, because, 901 00:52:47,497 --> 00:52:49,499 well, there's Karen's retirement. 902 00:52:49,583 --> 00:52:52,043 Like, there's a lot of people's life goals 903 00:52:52,127 --> 00:52:54,671 that revolve around these moments. 904 00:52:57,757 --> 00:52:59,968 We don't really know how it's going until 905 00:53:00,051 --> 00:53:02,137 we start to put it together in the theatre next week, 906 00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:04,347 and even then, when we start to see it under lights, 907 00:53:04,431 --> 00:53:06,808 we won't know till we try it with the dancers 908 00:53:06,892 --> 00:53:08,518 and with the scenery. 909 00:53:08,602 --> 00:53:10,353 Gabriela's the designer 910 00:53:10,437 --> 00:53:14,316 for this Swan Lake production. 911 00:53:14,399 --> 00:53:18,987 She designs all the costumes, all the set. 912 00:53:19,070 --> 00:53:22,073 Gabriela has worked for major shows, 913 00:53:22,157 --> 00:53:26,119 and she's used to having an unlimited budget. 914 00:53:26,202 --> 00:53:28,371 That's why Andrew Lloyd Webber loves her! 915 00:53:28,455 --> 00:53:29,539 Yeah. 916 00:53:29,623 --> 00:53:33,543 She certainly has a flair, from what I've seen. 917 00:53:33,627 --> 00:53:38,298 And, you know, it's lavish, it's big. 918 00:53:38,381 --> 00:53:39,716 Mm-hm. 919 00:53:45,555 --> 00:53:47,015 Have you been waiting for long? 920 00:53:47,098 --> 00:53:49,059 Yeah? 921 00:53:49,142 --> 00:53:51,770 It's been a hell of a time. 922 00:53:51,853 --> 00:53:53,647 First time I flew over to Canada, 923 00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:57,400 I flew from Australia to meet with Karen, and we got on. 924 00:53:57,484 --> 00:54:00,445 We really connected, and I sort of... 925 00:54:00,528 --> 00:54:03,657 I think I kind of got to 926 00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:05,784 what Karen wanted to say with the show. 927 00:54:05,867 --> 00:54:08,328 It wasn't just, you know, "This is Swan Lake 928 00:54:08,411 --> 00:54:09,996 "and we're gonna have white swans." 929 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,831 The themes were much deeper, 930 00:54:11,915 --> 00:54:14,209 and she was really interested to explore the darkness 931 00:54:14,292 --> 00:54:17,963 of somebody actually possessing somebody else's life. 932 00:54:30,767 --> 00:54:33,770 So, today is a costume run-through. 933 00:54:33,853 --> 00:54:36,856 Um, it's really a chance for the costume designer 934 00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:39,818 to see everything together, and it's a good chance for us, 935 00:54:39,901 --> 00:54:43,780 too, to practice putting them on and seeing how they fit. 936 00:54:43,863 --> 00:54:46,116 That's a snug fit. 937 00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:48,576 I was asked about this show in my interview 938 00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:50,453 in August 2019, 939 00:54:50,537 --> 00:54:53,081 and it's all I've thought about until this moment, 940 00:54:53,164 --> 00:54:55,542 so I'm so excited that it's finally happening. 941 00:54:57,085 --> 00:54:59,713 And I'm just like, "How am I gonna get through Swan Lake? 942 00:54:59,796 --> 00:55:01,923 "It's so massive." 943 00:55:13,727 --> 00:55:15,520 We need to ask for that. 944 00:55:15,603 --> 00:55:17,772 - Yeah, I can't... - 'Cause it's like... 945 00:55:17,856 --> 00:55:20,316 This is as high as I go. 946 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,294 Karen, I'm just warning you, it might be... 947 00:55:22,318 --> 00:55:23,796 because I haven't seen them all together, 948 00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:25,363 if some of them jump out too much, 949 00:55:25,447 --> 00:55:26,647 we can always knock them down. 950 00:55:27,449 --> 00:55:28,908 Okay, welcome back. 951 00:55:28,992 --> 00:55:30,493 You look amazing. 952 00:55:30,577 --> 00:55:32,746 We're gonna go from the top of Act 3. 953 00:55:32,829 --> 00:55:35,165 This is gonna be a bit more stop-start 954 00:55:35,248 --> 00:55:37,542 'cause we're integrating some supers into this, 955 00:55:37,625 --> 00:55:40,920 and we re-choreographed the waltz yesterday. 956 00:55:41,004 --> 00:55:42,964 So, could I have everyone in place 957 00:55:43,048 --> 00:55:45,842 for the top of the act, please? 958 00:55:45,925 --> 00:55:48,261 It'll be the first time it goes from, 959 00:55:48,344 --> 00:55:50,764 like, a series of dances to a story, is the hope. 960 00:55:50,847 --> 00:55:53,475 And making sure the story comes through 961 00:55:53,558 --> 00:55:57,645 is the most important thing. 962 00:56:34,724 --> 00:56:36,684 Let's do the circle again. 963 00:56:36,768 --> 00:56:39,312 Ladies, we need to do it faster if the music's faster. 964 00:56:39,395 --> 00:56:41,773 Go back the other way, supers! 965 00:56:41,856 --> 00:56:46,236 It is chaos right now. 966 00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:48,196 We didn't have space to do our dance, 967 00:56:48,279 --> 00:56:51,407 and then our costumes fuck us over so much. 968 00:56:55,620 --> 00:56:57,288 You see the frustration 969 00:56:57,372 --> 00:57:00,625 for the performers, too, because it just feels like 970 00:57:00,708 --> 00:57:04,379 it's so much harder, or the costume's in the way. 971 00:57:04,462 --> 00:57:07,507 It just feels different. 972 00:57:20,103 --> 00:57:22,147 Okay, we're going to keep going. 973 00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:23,898 We're gonna give you your five now, 974 00:57:23,982 --> 00:57:26,234 and then some time to get into costume. 975 00:57:31,698 --> 00:57:34,617 I'm gonna throw up! 976 00:57:38,371 --> 00:57:41,499 - Take care. - Uh-huh. 977 00:57:41,583 --> 00:57:44,919 And I've decided to let them all have 978 00:57:45,003 --> 00:57:46,546 their natural colour skin... 979 00:57:46,629 --> 00:57:47,881 Yeah. 980 00:57:47,964 --> 00:57:50,341 Like, not make them, even as swans, wear white. 981 00:57:50,425 --> 00:57:52,260 - Yeah, I think Stacy told me. - Yeah. 982 00:57:52,343 --> 00:57:54,053 - Yeah. - So I think this is... 983 00:57:54,137 --> 00:57:55,781 Yeah, and I've heard there's possible issues 984 00:57:55,805 --> 00:57:56,973 with some girls because... 985 00:57:57,056 --> 00:57:59,934 Yeah, well, we'll see, but I think it's more 986 00:58:00,018 --> 00:58:01,186 contemporary to do that. 987 00:58:01,269 --> 00:58:02,645 Mm-hm. 988 00:58:02,729 --> 00:58:05,064 I mean, if you're going to have certain skin colour... 989 00:58:05,148 --> 00:58:06,566 Then why are you putting tights? 990 00:58:06,649 --> 00:58:08,067 Why would you have white tights? 991 00:58:08,151 --> 00:58:09,861 - Yeah, true. - So... 992 00:58:09,944 --> 00:58:11,613 Yeah. 993 00:58:30,673 --> 00:58:32,800 She's caught. 994 00:58:51,444 --> 00:58:52,904 They do a lot. 995 00:58:52,987 --> 00:58:54,656 They dance a lot. 996 00:58:54,739 --> 00:58:57,784 Corps de ballet works like... they work like dogs. 997 00:59:03,581 --> 00:59:05,625 I do feel every day like 998 00:59:05,708 --> 00:59:06,834 we're balancing on, like, 999 00:59:06,918 --> 00:59:09,128 the tip of a razor blade, because it's this thing 1000 00:59:09,212 --> 00:59:11,381 where you have to push hard enough to get there, 1001 00:59:11,464 --> 00:59:13,132 but not so hard people get hurt. 1002 00:59:14,133 --> 00:59:16,135 Oh... 1003 00:59:16,219 --> 00:59:17,553 But it's also like, 1004 00:59:17,637 --> 00:59:19,597 Karen's looking at me like, "This is a mess." 1005 00:59:19,681 --> 00:59:22,558 And I'm like, "I know. Can't address that now." 1006 00:59:26,813 --> 00:59:31,109 It's just still a lot of question marks for me, 1007 00:59:31,192 --> 00:59:34,320 you know, at this moment in it, 1008 00:59:34,404 --> 00:59:36,656 and I'm really anxious. 1009 00:59:52,171 --> 00:59:53,673 Dancers, you're all excused! 1010 00:59:53,756 --> 00:59:55,800 Thank you very much! 1011 01:00:12,442 --> 01:00:14,235 Oof! 1012 01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:16,362 - A lot of work to do. - Yep. 1013 01:00:16,446 --> 01:00:17,864 The fourth act... 1014 01:00:35,256 --> 01:00:40,219 Ti! Get it together! 1015 01:00:40,303 --> 01:00:41,721 You're gonna flood this place! 1016 01:00:52,690 --> 01:00:54,734 This part makes me nervous, 1017 01:00:54,817 --> 01:00:58,112 more than, like, the actual shows. 1018 01:01:05,411 --> 01:01:07,830 We're just, like, doing more, and, like, 1019 01:01:07,914 --> 01:01:11,501 bodies are more tired, and... 1020 01:01:11,584 --> 01:01:16,798 brains are not working. 1021 01:01:16,881 --> 01:01:19,675 'Cause everything just starts hurting more. 1022 01:02:34,584 --> 01:02:37,503 The move into theatre is always 1023 01:02:37,587 --> 01:02:40,506 an adjustment for everyone. 1024 01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:42,300 It's like a different life there 1025 01:02:42,383 --> 01:02:44,302 than the life here in the studio. 1026 01:02:44,385 --> 01:02:49,932 Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. 1027 01:02:50,016 --> 01:02:51,601 Okay, let's go back to... 1028 01:02:51,684 --> 01:02:53,394 The lights are coming at you 1029 01:02:53,478 --> 01:02:55,229 from different sides, 1030 01:02:55,313 --> 01:02:58,941 and the set is in a place you didn't expect. 1031 01:02:59,025 --> 01:03:00,225 You've got a different hurdle. 1032 01:03:00,276 --> 01:03:01,611 Punk rock. 1033 01:03:02,653 --> 01:03:03,905 Yeah! 1034 01:03:03,988 --> 01:03:07,116 Like, there's just so many things to adapt to 1035 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,410 before they go in front of thousands of people 1036 01:03:09,494 --> 01:03:10,578 and do really hard things. 1037 01:03:10,661 --> 01:03:13,623 And then... 1038 01:03:13,706 --> 01:03:15,291 Coming right down, yes. 1039 01:03:15,374 --> 01:03:16,918 Okay, that'll work. Thank you. 1040 01:03:17,001 --> 01:03:18,669 We're gonna go back to after the coda... 1041 01:03:18,753 --> 01:03:22,006 The stage is really revealing for corps work 1042 01:03:22,089 --> 01:03:24,967 because you suddenly pick up on these differences 1043 01:03:25,051 --> 01:03:28,346 and inconsistencies that you didn't in the studio. 1044 01:03:28,429 --> 01:03:30,389 Two, three, four... 1045 01:03:30,473 --> 01:03:32,016 And it's also like, 1046 01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:33,726 the corps is what makes Swan Lake. 1047 01:03:33,809 --> 01:03:35,770 To me, they're the star of the show. 1048 01:03:35,853 --> 01:03:38,731 I need to, like, get into the circle. 1049 01:03:38,814 --> 01:03:41,692 Over by Tene and Jenna, can you open the circle... 1050 01:03:41,776 --> 01:03:43,694 I go directly into the wing. 1051 01:03:43,778 --> 01:03:45,071 Yes? 1052 01:03:45,154 --> 01:03:47,299 We were just thinking they might be going into the wing. 1053 01:03:47,323 --> 01:03:48,383 There's a spike there. 1054 01:03:48,407 --> 01:03:49,801 Everyone wants the best. 1055 01:03:49,825 --> 01:03:53,412 But it's hard when there's so many different voices. 1056 01:03:53,496 --> 01:03:55,414 I walked all the way over there 1057 01:03:55,498 --> 01:03:56,541 and I could see her... 1058 01:04:06,342 --> 01:04:09,345 Nan... Nan? Is it possible... 1059 01:04:14,350 --> 01:04:16,018 It's bumpy, but... 1060 01:04:16,102 --> 01:04:20,856 today I have to push really hard. 1061 01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:24,277 I know that if I can get to a place where everyone knows 1062 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:25,820 where they're supposed to be, 1063 01:04:25,903 --> 01:04:28,281 at least they can focus on their dancing 1064 01:04:28,364 --> 01:04:30,491 and not wonder what the fuck is going on. 1065 01:04:30,575 --> 01:04:32,344 Just keep hiding, get behind that centre line... 1066 01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:33,369 no, no. 1067 01:04:33,452 --> 01:04:34,662 Stay behind them. That's it. 1068 01:04:34,745 --> 01:04:37,415 Stay hidden. 1069 01:04:39,584 --> 01:04:42,795 Just criss-cross. And it's quite heavy, this one. 1070 01:04:42,878 --> 01:04:44,630 So it better be attached well. 1071 01:04:49,176 --> 01:04:50,970 It's one of the hardest days 1072 01:04:51,053 --> 01:04:52,847 because you're just in the theatre all day 1073 01:04:52,930 --> 01:04:54,265 from morning till evening, 1074 01:04:54,348 --> 01:04:57,476 and not knowing when you're gonna go on. 1075 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,896 So you just wait for your entrance while they stop and go, 1076 01:05:00,980 --> 01:05:04,108 stop and go, it doesn't work, changes, entrances... 1077 01:05:05,985 --> 01:05:09,989 Just embody what Karen believes that Swan Lake is. 1078 01:05:10,072 --> 01:05:13,868 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. 1079 01:05:13,951 --> 01:05:15,119 One, two, three, four... 1080 01:05:15,202 --> 01:05:16,682 It's gonna be painfully slow. 1081 01:05:17,913 --> 01:05:19,332 - I'm prepared. - Are you? 1082 01:05:19,415 --> 01:05:22,084 I need to see all my courtier supers on stage. 1083 01:05:22,168 --> 01:05:23,248 We're going to place you... 1084 01:05:23,294 --> 01:05:25,338 Okay, courtiers, let's go to where we think 1085 01:05:25,421 --> 01:05:27,673 - we're supposed to be. - Good lord... 1086 01:05:27,757 --> 01:05:31,093 So, peacock is furthest that way. 1087 01:05:31,177 --> 01:05:36,098 So we need to go butterfly and peacock. 1088 01:05:36,182 --> 01:05:37,850 Then mermaid. 1089 01:05:37,933 --> 01:05:39,935 Then swan. 1090 01:05:40,019 --> 01:05:42,188 And musicians. 1091 01:05:42,271 --> 01:05:45,608 Then gingerbread, unicorn, 1092 01:05:45,691 --> 01:05:47,943 Queen of Hearts. 1093 01:06:15,054 --> 01:06:16,555 I think that looks too far on. 1094 01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:18,057 I think it looks too far on, too. 1095 01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:19,809 Rob, I think it's too far on. 1096 01:06:19,892 --> 01:06:24,397 Vanessa, you need to get the up faster to conceal her. 1097 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,564 Yes, Jurgita? 1098 01:06:31,404 --> 01:06:33,823 Do you want to try the whole entrance again? 1099 01:06:33,906 --> 01:06:36,158 Okay, we'll go from the same place again. 1100 01:06:58,264 --> 01:07:00,725 I have no space. 1101 01:07:08,607 --> 01:07:11,527 I've always been at the side of the choreographers 1102 01:07:11,610 --> 01:07:12,737 who came to work with us. 1103 01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:15,072 I've never been fully responsible for it before. 1104 01:07:15,156 --> 01:07:17,491 That's the difference. 1105 01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:19,744 And boy, it's a big difference. 1106 01:07:19,827 --> 01:07:22,747 Um, they have to come in earlier for the fouettés, 1107 01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:25,124 because I'm standing there, it's my music to go, 1108 01:07:25,207 --> 01:07:27,018 I've barely made it, and I have to start going. 1109 01:07:27,042 --> 01:07:27,710 - Yeah. - It's ridiculous. 1110 01:07:27,793 --> 01:07:29,295 We'll fix it, we'll fix it. 1111 01:07:29,378 --> 01:07:31,922 We'll fix it, don't worry! We'll fix it. 1112 01:07:32,006 --> 01:07:34,467 - Um, yeah, thank you. - Okay. 1113 01:08:03,204 --> 01:08:05,372 Mostly I see what isn't working, 1114 01:08:05,456 --> 01:08:06,874 as opposed to what is, 1115 01:08:06,957 --> 01:08:11,128 and then I try to tell myself to look at what is working. 1116 01:08:11,212 --> 01:08:15,841 And snap out of it! 1117 01:08:15,925 --> 01:08:18,969 I was so happy to see Genevieve this afternoon, 1118 01:08:19,053 --> 01:08:20,846 even though it's her first time on the stage 1119 01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:22,515 in the lights and all that. 1120 01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:28,229 If the worst happened 1121 01:08:28,312 --> 01:08:30,272 and Jurgita couldn't perform, 1122 01:08:30,356 --> 01:08:34,735 I would sit down with Rob and the artistic staff 1123 01:08:34,819 --> 01:08:37,321 and I would listen to all of their advice, 1124 01:08:37,404 --> 01:08:40,282 and then I would make up my own mind 1125 01:08:40,366 --> 01:08:43,202 about who I would give that opportunity to. 1126 01:08:47,665 --> 01:08:49,708 I... 1127 01:08:49,792 --> 01:08:51,627 I would like to. 1128 01:09:15,067 --> 01:09:17,820 I'm probably getting an injection. 1129 01:09:22,366 --> 01:09:24,535 If the injection has the outcome 1130 01:09:24,618 --> 01:09:27,413 that I don't want it to have and I don't do the shows, 1131 01:09:27,496 --> 01:09:28,122 then I'm done. 1132 01:09:28,205 --> 01:09:31,417 Okay? 1133 01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:33,919 It's not fair. 1134 01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:48,058 - Not wearing a vest, no. - Muscley... 1135 01:09:48,142 --> 01:09:50,936 No, not wearing a vest. A muscley guy with a dog. 1136 01:09:51,020 --> 01:09:53,731 I feel like you would date like a, like... 1137 01:09:53,814 --> 01:09:56,859 "Hmm, I wear a watch all the time." 1138 01:09:56,942 --> 01:09:58,777 I feel like you would definitely date a guy 1139 01:09:58,861 --> 01:10:00,112 who wears, like, a big watch. 1140 01:10:00,195 --> 01:10:01,530 Absolutely! 1141 01:10:01,614 --> 01:10:03,592 You're like, "Money, money, money, money, money!" 1142 01:10:03,616 --> 01:10:06,118 No, not about the money, but it's just, like, 1143 01:10:06,201 --> 01:10:08,203 a watch is important! 1144 01:10:12,791 --> 01:10:14,293 This is what it looks like 1145 01:10:14,376 --> 01:10:18,297 to actively be overcoming your eating disorders. 1146 01:10:18,380 --> 01:10:21,300 High five. 1147 01:10:21,383 --> 01:10:22,801 I think we're all capable of it. 1148 01:10:22,885 --> 01:10:24,404 - Yeah, definitely. - That's the thing. 1149 01:10:24,428 --> 01:10:26,889 So it's just like we have to save ourselves so that we can 1150 01:10:26,972 --> 01:10:29,016 - make it to opening night. - Yeah. 1151 01:10:29,099 --> 01:10:31,268 And I feel like it's especially hard for, like, 1152 01:10:31,352 --> 01:10:34,146 people our age to save ourselves because, like... 1153 01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:35,916 Well, yeah, you're just trying to prove yourself 1154 01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:37,542 - all the time, yeah. - There's, like, pressure 1155 01:10:37,566 --> 01:10:40,152 to prove yourself and do everything always 100% full-out. 1156 01:10:40,235 --> 01:10:42,947 - Yeah. - And you're like... 1157 01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:45,324 "I'm gonna fucking break my foot again," you know? 1158 01:10:45,407 --> 01:10:46,825 Mm-hm. 1159 01:10:46,909 --> 01:10:48,911 Yeah, it's finding the balance of, like, 1160 01:10:48,994 --> 01:10:51,830 saving yourself but also doing your best every time. 1161 01:10:51,914 --> 01:10:53,290 Yeah. 1162 01:10:53,374 --> 01:10:55,417 And every show. 1163 01:11:07,638 --> 01:11:11,642 Bourrées, fast bourrées, ladies. 1164 01:11:15,771 --> 01:11:18,232 Good. Energy in the back leg! 1165 01:11:18,315 --> 01:11:19,650 Better, good! 1166 01:11:23,028 --> 01:11:25,030 Mind the arms on those piqué turns! 1167 01:11:25,114 --> 01:11:28,033 What fucking arms? 1168 01:11:28,117 --> 01:11:30,869 And up on jeté will help the landing. 1169 01:11:32,496 --> 01:11:34,498 I'm gonna fucking sprain my ankle doing this. 1170 01:11:34,581 --> 01:11:35,582 Nice clean lines. 1171 01:11:35,666 --> 01:11:37,042 I was like... 1172 01:11:49,138 --> 01:11:50,498 It's really demanding, 1173 01:11:50,556 --> 01:11:54,143 really demanding, both technically and physically. 1174 01:11:54,226 --> 01:11:57,062 But the corps' been quite rough. 1175 01:12:05,154 --> 01:12:06,363 That was much better. 1176 01:12:06,447 --> 01:12:08,073 Yeah? Pssht. 1177 01:12:08,157 --> 01:12:11,160 Good, 'cause it doesn't feel better. 1178 01:12:31,221 --> 01:12:32,532 Tene wore her Apple watch 1179 01:12:32,556 --> 01:12:33,807 during the fourth act 1180 01:12:33,891 --> 01:12:38,437 and realized that, uh, she ran 5K. 1181 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,440 Then we had to do it again for every principal. 1182 01:12:41,523 --> 01:12:45,652 So something like that, it's pretty brutal on your body. 1183 01:12:52,785 --> 01:12:55,829 Uh, Maya in the back, you were just a bit... 1184 01:12:55,913 --> 01:12:57,289 Somehow this diagonal... 1185 01:12:57,372 --> 01:12:59,666 This is not right. 1186 01:12:59,750 --> 01:13:02,628 Death. Slow death. 1187 01:13:08,050 --> 01:13:10,070 Tene told us that she had a pedometer on, 1188 01:13:10,094 --> 01:13:12,679 and during Act 4 they run 5K. 1189 01:13:12,763 --> 01:13:13,889 Wow. 1190 01:13:17,017 --> 01:13:21,355 I think that's where, when you sign on the dotted line, 1191 01:13:21,438 --> 01:13:23,816 that's what you were in for! 1192 01:14:21,874 --> 01:14:23,250 How's it going? 1193 01:14:23,333 --> 01:14:24,877 It's going. 1194 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,587 I guess. 1195 01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:28,964 It's kind of like a shit show right now. 1196 01:14:29,047 --> 01:14:32,885 It's, like, crazy and chaotic, 1197 01:14:32,968 --> 01:14:36,305 and I'm like so anxious and all of the girls are like... 1198 01:14:37,806 --> 01:14:40,267 They're just like... 1199 01:14:40,350 --> 01:14:42,644 It feels like we're just working and working and working 1200 01:14:42,728 --> 01:14:45,272 our bodies and not actually fixing anything. 1201 01:14:45,355 --> 01:14:47,191 And, like... 1202 01:14:47,274 --> 01:14:51,028 there's, like, a disconnect somewhere, 1203 01:14:51,111 --> 01:14:53,530 between, like, the staff and us, it feels like. 1204 01:14:53,614 --> 01:14:57,659 So it's, like, stressful and... 1205 01:14:57,743 --> 01:15:00,120 I don't know. 1206 01:15:00,204 --> 01:15:02,664 All of us are just, like, crumbling, you know? 1207 01:15:17,930 --> 01:15:19,490 There have been a couple of nights 1208 01:15:19,514 --> 01:15:22,351 that I just went home and Ross was like, 1209 01:15:22,434 --> 01:15:23,810 "How's it going?" you know? 1210 01:15:23,894 --> 01:15:25,395 And I'm like... 1211 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,066 "Not well!" 1212 01:15:29,149 --> 01:15:34,363 Um, and then, of course, I can't sleep, so, um... 1213 01:15:34,446 --> 01:15:36,240 I just... 1214 01:15:36,323 --> 01:15:39,076 Just a million thoughts going through my head about 1215 01:15:39,159 --> 01:15:42,371 what we can do, how we can route... 1216 01:15:42,454 --> 01:15:43,830 you know, re-synch some bits, 1217 01:15:43,914 --> 01:15:47,084 and other things, going, 1218 01:15:47,167 --> 01:15:51,630 "I think that should work, but it's not working." 1219 01:15:51,713 --> 01:15:53,882 They did it right yesterday afternoon, 1220 01:15:53,966 --> 01:15:55,300 one of them, and I thought, 1221 01:15:55,384 --> 01:15:58,679 "Okay, we're getting closer to this moment." 1222 01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:04,142 There's one that I love already... 1223 01:16:04,226 --> 01:16:06,687 I always wait for it... it's when all the women, 1224 01:16:06,770 --> 01:16:09,231 they're all huddled together across the back, 1225 01:16:09,314 --> 01:16:12,609 and they're consoling each other. 1226 01:16:12,693 --> 01:16:16,321 Those moments for me are so important. 1227 01:16:16,405 --> 01:16:20,200 They hit you in a way, if you see them, 1228 01:16:20,284 --> 01:16:23,996 they hit you in a way that nothing else can. 1229 01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:27,165 I also think I've never seen that done in any Swan Lake. 1230 01:16:27,249 --> 01:16:29,418 It's just always perfect swans and lines, 1231 01:16:29,501 --> 01:16:32,838 and everybody dances well. 1232 01:16:32,921 --> 01:16:37,050 But here, there are moments when they stop just being 1233 01:16:37,134 --> 01:16:41,930 incredible dancers and they become human beings. 1234 01:17:05,412 --> 01:17:07,748 So, last time I used a slightly thicker needle, 1235 01:17:07,831 --> 01:17:10,459 so I'm purposefully using a thinner needle today, 1236 01:17:10,542 --> 01:17:12,711 just so you know, because... 1237 01:17:12,794 --> 01:17:14,463 As long as it does the same job. 1238 01:17:14,546 --> 01:17:17,257 Yeah. "Just fix it!" 1239 01:17:17,341 --> 01:17:20,635 Just fix it! 1240 01:17:20,719 --> 01:17:23,388 There we are. 1241 01:17:38,987 --> 01:17:41,490 So, when I went to get injection, 1242 01:17:41,573 --> 01:17:44,576 the doctor suggested to do only partial injection, 1243 01:17:44,659 --> 01:17:46,912 to just relieve the nerve enough 1244 01:17:46,995 --> 01:17:50,123 but not deactivate the muscle. 1245 01:17:50,207 --> 01:17:52,542 The next day, I knew that I'm gonna be fine. 1246 01:17:52,626 --> 01:17:53,960 That's much better. 1247 01:17:54,044 --> 01:17:56,147 Just wish I would have had that answer before. 1248 01:17:56,171 --> 01:17:57,923 So I'm just grateful 1249 01:17:58,006 --> 01:18:00,592 that events aligned itself that I can dance today. 1250 01:18:00,675 --> 01:18:04,262 Incredibly thankful that I did not do the full injection 1251 01:18:04,346 --> 01:18:06,306 'cause I wouldn't be able to dance. 1252 01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:08,809 Enjoy. Okay? 1253 01:18:08,892 --> 01:18:10,811 You enjoy. 1254 01:18:10,894 --> 01:18:12,771 - I will. - Good, I hope so. 1255 01:18:12,854 --> 01:18:16,108 If not, you'll tell me. 1256 01:18:53,645 --> 01:18:54,980 Fun games that we play. 1257 01:18:55,063 --> 01:18:57,083 I don't think this is something we should be super proud of, 1258 01:18:57,107 --> 01:19:00,527 - but it's our Advil tally! - You could duct tape it. 1259 01:19:00,610 --> 01:19:02,529 Oh yeah, maybe I'll just tape it to the door. 1260 01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:04,364 It has to be taken in this building, 1261 01:19:04,448 --> 01:19:07,868 and then depending on how much you're taking you get, like, 1262 01:19:07,951 --> 01:19:11,079 1 point, 2 points, or 2.5 points. 1263 01:19:11,163 --> 01:19:15,375 It's starting today because of opening night. 1264 01:19:15,459 --> 01:19:17,311 Opening night is always weird for me 1265 01:19:17,335 --> 01:19:19,087 because it's the first time that, like, 1266 01:19:19,171 --> 01:19:20,630 I don't have a microphone! 1267 01:19:20,714 --> 01:19:21,840 I can't say anything. 1268 01:19:21,923 --> 01:19:24,176 Like, if something's wrong, I can't fix it. 1269 01:19:24,259 --> 01:19:25,927 So it's really, like... 1270 01:19:26,011 --> 01:19:29,639 a big, for me, like just handing over 1271 01:19:29,723 --> 01:19:31,766 all my trust to the dancers. 1272 01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:36,873 I'm really reckoning with, 1273 01:19:36,897 --> 01:19:39,858 like, how hard I push them, 1274 01:19:39,941 --> 01:19:43,904 but I hope that they know 1275 01:19:43,987 --> 01:19:45,947 that I am asking all this of them 1276 01:19:46,031 --> 01:19:48,241 because I see, like, 1277 01:19:48,325 --> 01:19:50,452 limitless potential in what they do as a group. 1278 01:19:50,535 --> 01:19:52,954 And I think that ultimately, like, 1279 01:19:53,038 --> 01:19:56,208 it is the most powerful force on stage. 1280 01:19:56,291 --> 01:20:00,378 But all of these women want so much, 1281 01:20:00,462 --> 01:20:02,047 which is also why it's so good 1282 01:20:02,130 --> 01:20:03,840 and why they push themselves so hard. 1283 01:20:22,359 --> 01:20:26,071 Okay, I gotta... I gotta go and warm up, 1284 01:20:26,154 --> 01:20:29,115 but I'll chat to you soon. 1285 01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:31,409 Alright, love you. Bye. 1286 01:20:33,662 --> 01:20:35,502 But yeah, this question of, like, 1287 01:20:35,539 --> 01:20:38,250 "What's worth it, and what's too much?" 1288 01:20:38,333 --> 01:20:40,835 is kind of like one of the endless challenges 1289 01:20:40,919 --> 01:20:42,254 in ballet. 1290 01:20:42,337 --> 01:20:45,590 And it's like, "Okay, yeah, they all agreed to it." 1291 01:20:45,674 --> 01:20:49,511 That doesn't necessarily make it right. 1292 01:20:50,762 --> 01:20:52,931 Toi, toi, ladies. 1293 01:20:58,520 --> 01:20:59,354 Um... 1294 01:20:59,437 --> 01:21:01,731 it was not a good rehearsal. 1295 01:21:01,815 --> 01:21:03,292 You know what they always say, that... 1296 01:21:03,316 --> 01:21:04,484 Mmm, we hope! 1297 01:21:04,568 --> 01:21:06,945 Tough dress rehearsal, great opening night. 1298 01:21:07,028 --> 01:21:10,240 So we're really hoping for the best for tonight. 1299 01:21:10,323 --> 01:21:12,659 It's sold incredibly well. 1300 01:21:12,742 --> 01:21:15,287 It's probably also that people are just really anxious 1301 01:21:15,370 --> 01:21:16,621 to see dance again. 1302 01:21:16,705 --> 01:21:21,209 But this is the best sales we've had in a long time. 1303 01:21:25,463 --> 01:21:27,299 Well... 1304 01:21:27,382 --> 01:21:31,595 Well, I think Swan Lake is a pretty compelling... 1305 01:21:32,721 --> 01:21:35,307 Take some credit for once, woman! 1306 01:21:39,769 --> 01:21:43,023 We've waited two and a half years to do this, 1307 01:21:43,106 --> 01:21:48,320 so there's a lot riding on this emotionally. 1308 01:21:48,403 --> 01:21:52,449 And the artists, you know, they have to rise to that level. 1309 01:21:52,532 --> 01:21:53,992 It's now in their hands. 1310 01:21:54,075 --> 01:21:56,661 There's nothing I can do. 1311 01:23:10,276 --> 01:23:12,779 Thank you for joining us 1312 01:23:12,862 --> 01:23:16,658 for the world premiere of our new production of Swan Lake. 1313 01:25:18,321 --> 01:25:20,031 Yes! 1314 01:27:04,177 --> 01:27:05,511 Just for the next one. 1315 01:27:05,595 --> 01:27:07,680 It's fine, it's okay. 1316 01:28:46,946 --> 01:28:49,282 Let's save her! 1317 01:28:49,365 --> 01:28:51,659 Let's help her! 1318 01:31:39,035 --> 01:31:40,953 You were so good. 1319 01:31:41,037 --> 01:31:43,497 - Thank you. - Muah! 1320 01:31:43,581 --> 01:31:45,333 Thank you. 1321 01:32:25,873 --> 01:32:27,309 When I started ballet, 1322 01:32:27,333 --> 01:32:29,669 I just could never even imagine that this is the life 1323 01:32:29,752 --> 01:32:31,379 I would be living. 1324 01:32:31,462 --> 01:32:34,006 I made it from zero. 1325 01:32:34,090 --> 01:32:38,719 Those memories of stepping on stage when I was nine 1326 01:32:38,803 --> 01:32:42,056 to what I do now, it makes sense. 1327 01:32:42,139 --> 01:32:45,226 I let go, I risk... 1328 01:32:45,309 --> 01:32:47,311 I'm a soul on stage. 1329 01:33:01,617 --> 01:33:03,452 And, you know, every second, 1330 01:33:03,536 --> 01:33:05,663 I believed every second of what you did. 1331 01:33:05,746 --> 01:33:07,039 - Thank you. - Every second. 1332 01:33:07,123 --> 01:33:08,624 - Thank you. - Thank you. 1333 01:33:08,708 --> 01:33:11,961 - I poured my heart. - You sure did. 1334 01:33:12,044 --> 01:33:14,338 You were amazing, all of you! 1335 01:33:14,422 --> 01:33:17,008 All of you, thank you so much! 1336 01:33:17,091 --> 01:33:18,551 All your hard work. 1337 01:33:18,634 --> 01:33:20,469 Just so beautiful. 1338 01:33:20,553 --> 01:33:22,555 It came so far. 1339 01:33:22,638 --> 01:33:25,349 Thank you so much, ladies. 1340 01:33:25,433 --> 01:33:27,601 I hope you enjoyed it a little bit. 1341 01:33:27,685 --> 01:33:29,645 A lot? 1342 01:33:29,729 --> 01:33:31,063 Muah! 1343 01:33:31,147 --> 01:33:33,190 Really fantastic corps de ballet. 1344 01:33:33,274 --> 01:33:34,859 Thank you all. 1345 01:33:34,942 --> 01:33:36,360 I loved it. 1346 01:33:36,444 --> 01:33:39,530 I think everyone looks amazing without the tights. 1347 01:33:39,613 --> 01:33:42,616 I even had friends that watched that thought it was beautiful 1348 01:33:42,700 --> 01:33:45,536 and were shocked that this wasn't just the normal thing 1349 01:33:45,619 --> 01:33:46,787 that we do. 1350 01:33:46,871 --> 01:33:49,165 And I was like, "No, guys, this is the first 1351 01:33:49,248 --> 01:33:53,544 "classical ballet that is not requiring us to 1352 01:33:53,627 --> 01:33:57,048 "change half of ourselves or be anything else." 1353 01:33:57,131 --> 01:33:59,050 Like, we are actually just us. 1354 01:33:59,133 --> 01:34:00,760 One, two, three... 1355 01:34:03,804 --> 01:34:06,932 - Are you okay? - Yes! 1356 01:34:07,016 --> 01:34:09,143 Don't you fuckin' dare hurt yourself! 1357 01:34:13,064 --> 01:34:14,565 Thank you so much, Rob. 1358 01:34:14,648 --> 01:34:16,168 Thank you. You guys were amazing. 1359 01:34:16,192 --> 01:34:17,401 - You had fun? - Yes. 1360 01:34:17,485 --> 01:34:19,070 Good. Act 4 was like... 1361 01:34:19,153 --> 01:34:21,655 I feel like we all were like... 1362 01:34:21,739 --> 01:34:24,909 Hello, sweetheart! 1363 01:34:24,992 --> 01:34:27,745 - Did you have a good time? - The best time. 1364 01:34:27,828 --> 01:34:31,040 - It was beautiful, wasn't it? - It was fantastic. 1365 01:34:31,123 --> 01:34:32,803 Congrats on your first Swan Lake. 1366 01:34:32,875 --> 01:34:34,668 Thank you. 1367 01:34:38,672 --> 01:34:41,509 Do I look cranky? 1368 01:34:41,592 --> 01:34:43,636 I mean pretty. 1369 01:34:45,471 --> 01:34:47,014 I'm the ugly ducking. 1370 01:34:49,266 --> 01:34:52,103 I just want to, like, bow by myself. 1371 01:34:52,186 --> 01:34:54,688 One day I'm gonna fucking do it. 1372 01:34:54,772 --> 01:35:00,069 I just need to figure out how to not hold myself back, I think. 1373 01:35:00,152 --> 01:35:02,822 And I need to just be like, 1374 01:35:02,905 --> 01:35:08,828 try and believe people when they say nice stuff to me, you know? 1375 01:35:08,911 --> 01:35:11,330 Ballet is punk rock as fuck. 1376 01:35:11,414 --> 01:35:14,125 Nobody wants to admit it, but it's true. 1377 01:35:16,293 --> 01:35:18,963 It's a one-in-a-lifetime experience, 1378 01:35:19,046 --> 01:35:22,675 to be part of something so big 1379 01:35:22,758 --> 01:35:27,304 and be trusted with the choices I make artistically on stage. 1380 01:35:27,388 --> 01:35:30,474 I know that I did my best 1381 01:35:30,558 --> 01:35:33,978 in trying to make her vision alive. 1382 01:35:34,061 --> 01:35:35,187 Long lift? 1383 01:35:35,271 --> 01:35:37,940 For now, I have still another 1384 01:35:38,023 --> 01:35:40,484 eight to ten years to dance, hopefully. 1385 01:35:40,568 --> 01:35:44,613 It will be time to transition from dance. 1386 01:35:44,697 --> 01:35:47,199 But not yet. 1387 01:35:47,283 --> 01:35:48,576 Congratulations. 1388 01:35:48,659 --> 01:35:50,161 Oh! 1389 01:35:52,663 --> 01:35:54,832 Fantastic. They were fantastic, yeah. 1390 01:35:54,915 --> 01:35:56,459 It just went another level. 1391 01:35:56,542 --> 01:35:57,668 I mean, finally, it all... 1392 01:35:57,751 --> 01:35:59,920 No, no, it just takes time, yeah. 1393 01:36:00,004 --> 01:36:02,089 Well, thank God it was tonight that it gelled... 1394 01:36:02,173 --> 01:36:03,424 Yeah, I know! 1395 01:36:03,507 --> 01:36:05,926 I was thinking maybe next week it'll gel, after yesterday. 1396 01:36:06,010 --> 01:36:07,612 Remember when you said, "Show ten"? 1397 01:36:07,636 --> 01:36:09,305 "Show ten, it's gonna be great!" 1398 01:36:09,388 --> 01:36:10,639 We got show one! 1399 01:36:10,723 --> 01:36:13,684 But, you know, I came expecting to, you know, 1400 01:36:13,768 --> 01:36:16,437 have to accept that some things were gonna be a little bit iffy. 1401 01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,731 - Yeah, and it was... - And nothing was iffy. 1402 01:36:18,814 --> 01:36:20,774 - Yeah, yeah. - That's a miracle. 1403 01:36:20,858 --> 01:36:22,109 Agreed, agreed! 1404 01:36:22,193 --> 01:36:23,277 That's hard work. 1405 01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,029 It's hard work! 1406 01:36:25,112 --> 01:36:26,447 I'm ecstatic. 1407 01:36:26,530 --> 01:36:28,449 I mean, they all danced their little hearts out. 1408 01:36:28,532 --> 01:36:30,701 It was just... 1409 01:36:30,784 --> 01:36:34,205 Yeah, I was, like... I could barely move, I was... 1410 01:36:34,288 --> 01:36:37,208 [indistinct conversation in background 1411 01:36:37,291 --> 01:36:40,419 They pulled me in to the drama. 1412 01:36:40,503 --> 01:36:43,547 Just the way I wanted! 1413 01:36:43,631 --> 01:36:46,842 I am so happy and I haven't even had a drink yet! 1414 01:36:52,723 --> 01:36:54,808 Oh, the "Story About Me"? 1415 01:36:54,892 --> 01:36:57,394 This is my book, "A Story About Me"... 1416 01:36:57,478 --> 01:37:00,564 by Karen Kain! 1417 01:37:00,648 --> 01:37:03,067 "When I grow up, I'm going to be a ballerina. 1418 01:37:03,150 --> 01:37:05,486 "I could go out every night and dance." 1419 01:37:05,569 --> 01:37:08,447 Only I said "dace." 1420 01:37:08,531 --> 01:37:10,366 "I will be in 'Giselle.' 1421 01:37:10,449 --> 01:37:14,411 "It will be so much fun being a ballerina." 1422 01:37:18,999 --> 01:37:21,460 "Dancing is never really fun." 1423 01:37:24,505 --> 01:37:25,631 Oh, dear! 1424 01:37:25,714 --> 01:37:26,775 Did you say that? 1425 01:37:26,799 --> 01:37:28,717 I guess I did. 1426 01:37:28,801 --> 01:37:30,362 "Sometimes afterwards, you can say, 1427 01:37:30,386 --> 01:37:31,887 'That was a really good experience 1428 01:37:31,971 --> 01:37:34,932 'and I really enjoyed it.' 1429 01:37:35,015 --> 01:37:37,142 "But you're concentrating so hard on what you're doing 1430 01:37:37,226 --> 01:37:39,144 "that the only time it's ever really fun 1431 01:37:39,228 --> 01:37:41,272 "is when you're feeling no pain 1432 01:37:41,355 --> 01:37:44,191 "and things seem to be going well." 1433 01:37:44,275 --> 01:37:45,276 So... 1434 01:37:45,359 --> 01:37:47,570 I was 27. 1435 01:37:50,197 --> 01:37:52,283 I'd forgotten all this stuff. 1436 01:37:52,366 --> 01:37:55,369 Oh my God, well... 1437 01:37:55,452 --> 01:37:58,664 Oh, this is when we were filming Giselle, I think. 1438 01:37:58,747 --> 01:38:03,460 Oh, this is Frank and I. Oh my God, we're so young. 1439 01:38:03,544 --> 01:38:05,462 Yeah, this is like the final... 1440 01:38:05,546 --> 01:38:09,133 the final moments in Swan Lake. 1441 01:38:09,216 --> 01:38:11,760 The last... the last Swan Lake. 106456

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