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RENO [over TV]: The
Justice Department has charged Microsoft with
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engaging in anti-competitive...
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SEAN: The government's
now going after Microsoft with both barrels.
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RENO [over TV]: Designed to
maintain its monopoly...
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TARA: Cool.
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RENO [over TV]: In personal
computer operating systems.
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JIM: When you come across
a snake, you kill it.
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You don't go back and
play with a dead snake.
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We reached an
agreement to sell the
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Netscape Communications
Corporation to AOL.
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DAN: This guy who has been
calling himself Michael Fenne is really David Kim Stanley,
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a fugitive of the law.
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ROBERT: What about the
technology that I created?
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MICHAEL: Yeah, well,
I'm trying to deal with this bankruptcy stuff so that you
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and Chuck don't get arrested.
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ROBERT: What?
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MICHAEL: Hey, what did
y'all think of iBash?
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GROUP: Whooo!
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WISKOWSKI: You spent twelve
million dollars of my money on something that didn't work.
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MICHAEL: Huh.
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STEPHAN: Michael Egan
told us, "I wanna do business with you guys."
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ED: We bought 51%
for 20 million.
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STEPHAN: Which at
the time was the single biggest investment
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in Internet history
by an individual.
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Got the girl.
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Got the money.
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Now I'm ready to live a
disgusting frivolous life.
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TODD: That piece
was very damaging.
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STEPHAN: Dude, you know
they took it out of context!
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TODD: You created the context!
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We are running a
billion- dollar company.
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And you played right
into the narrative that maybe we shouldn't be.
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MICHAEL: Because it
burned inside me.
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Because.
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Be-be-be-because.
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Be-be.
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Because.
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It burned.
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Because it burned inside me.
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REPORTER: IPO gate
is far from a sure case.
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-Well, it's the Internet.
It's life in the fast line.
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-Cash is cash.
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-Anyone can create enough
wealth in a couple of years to become a billionaire.
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-Fun becomes popular.
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-Of the 175 Internet
companies that went public this year almost one-third
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are trading below their
initial offering price.
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MICHAEL: Because it
burned inside me.
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REPORTER [over TV]:
America Online says combining the Web audience
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of AOL and Netscape
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will let consumers and
businesses do more on the Web.
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The combination creates
a force to be reckoned with for anyone
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targeting consumers
on the Internet.
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MARC: Yes, I went
to work at AOL.
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Is that so difficult
to understand?
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Sorry, I'm not angry at you.
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Fine, let me break it
down: I created something you all now use every day,
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that speeds
communication, commerce, education, even love.
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And that thing was
given to all of you.
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You're welcome.
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Did I make a tidy sum?
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Yes, I did.
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Did I leverage
my wealth and position toward the greater good?
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I did the thing I did.
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And I retreated
from a creative role to something else.
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I'm a human being, with
an expiration date.
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And I'm living the
rest of my life.
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And I'm definitely
done talking about it.
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TODD: Hey.
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STEPHAN: Hey.
I'm really sorry.
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TODD: No, man.
It's all good. You were right.
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STEPHAN: No, let's go
in the conference room.
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I feel really bad.
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TODD: You drive this company.
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You and your vision,
made this all happen.
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STEPHAN:
Todd, that's not true.
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TODD: You made a mistake.
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One that got amplified
by the fishbowl we're living in as the guys
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who started this company.
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There wouldn't be a
company without you.
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There wouldn't be a fishbowl.
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And there wouldn't have been
the craziest IPO in history.
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STEPHAN: We did do that.
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TODD: We did.
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[hand slap].
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-Because it burned inside me.
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MARC: Why are we
divided into thirds?
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Hello?
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DARRIN: Heeyyy, you up?
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It's a lot, right?
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I know, the entire thing.
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This delicious bacchanal,
this orgy if you will of money and power,
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I mean, that big ol'
juicy bubble,
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it's starting to stretch tight.
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Yeah, I know, you can feel
it right, yeah, I know, it is full to bursting,
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the signs are everywhere,
the center will not hold.
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That's Yeats, bitch.
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So, I and all of us
financial sector experts,
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as certified
investment practitioners,
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do the prudent thing,
the wise thing, the right thing,
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and hew tightly
to our fiduciary responsibility, right?
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Well, as they say
in the olden days,
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NOT.
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[laughs].
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MICHAEL: Everybody wanted
what we were building.
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I told them, I said,
you can't have my social security number.
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You can't know who I
am or where I come from.
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If you want what
we're building at Pixelon,
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you have to
leave my past alone,
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whatever that may be.
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That was the deal.
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DAN: This guy that's
been calling himself Michael Fenne is really...
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Somebody named
David Kim Stanley,
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who is on the
State of Virginia's Most Wanted List
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for uh, you know,
being a fugitive of the law.
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DAVID:
First of all, I threw my driver's license away,
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threw very piece of,
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every trace of anything
that might identify me as David Stanley.
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I threw all that away.
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Um, I dyed my hair blonde,
I put on 200 pounds.
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I did as much as I could
do short of mutilation to change my appearance.
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HUFFINGTON: The founder
is fictional, which is kind of appropriate because
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in many ways the
product is fictional too.
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DAN: Almost immediately
after iBash, it was pretty clear that it was a failure.
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The fact that they were unable
to stream the event live on the Internet confirmed:
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That this was a technology that
wasn't ready for prime time.
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GARY: I specifically made
it my objective to let the chairman of the board know:
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This was not possible and they
kept going forward anyway.
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BRIAN: The actual
broadcast of it live,
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Pixelon didn't
even broadcast it live.
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GARY: iBash failed.
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[beep].
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WISKOWSKI [over phone]:
Michael, this is the last time I'm gonna call you.
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I'm getting on a flight
and we're gonna hash this out in person.
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And you'd better have some
very compelling answers.
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DAVID: Just try not
to attract attention.
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They have people everywhere.
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SHEILA: I don't know
how to drive and attract any less attention.
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DAVID: If they've put me
"beyond salvage" that means they might disappear me.
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We just need to keep moving.
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Please, speed up!
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SHEILA: Michael,
you're scaring me.
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DAVID: Hey, pull over!
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SHEILA: Ah! Ok.
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DAVID: Ok look, you
should be scared.
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We should all be scared,
the CIA doesn't mess around.
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SHEILA: Why would the CIA?
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DAVID: Hey, I told you
not to ask me about that.
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It puts you at risk!
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DAN: Michael's behavior
by all accounts was increasingly erratic.
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DAVID: The hit squad
is probably on the way.
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And this new so-called
"CEO," Paul Ward?
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He's working for the bad guys.
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SHEILA: What are
you, the "hit squad?"
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Are we in danger?
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I thought you liked
Paul and Denise.
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We had them over to the house!
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I thought the whole iBash
thing was such a big success.
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DAVID: Honey, I need you
to do something for me,
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you go home,
get any of my papers in my office and put them in a box
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and then put them in the
cubby hole under the garage. Ok?
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SHEILA: Yeah.
DAVID: Hey, shh. Get down!
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[screams].
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[sobbing].
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Ok, sit tight, baby.
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Do not answer
the phone or the door under any circumstances,
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I'm talking about
your life here.
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This may be the last
time we see each other,
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know that I have
truly loved you,
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even when you let me down.
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SHEILA: Oh, Michael,
please don't say that.
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Please. I don't.
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Michael, Michael!
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REPORTER [over TV]: AOL
is more powerful in consumer activity than any company,
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including Microsoft.
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So here's competition at
its finest, with people slicing up Netscape
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for the real key assets.
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ROSEANNE: Andreessen
becoming the AOL CTO was a bit of, you know, wow,
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that's an interesting
one, isn't it?
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SPENCE: There's a lot
of irony around the uh AOL purpose of Netscape.
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That was just part and parcel.
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ROSEANNE: Given everything
he had said about the company, yes, it was odd.
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And I don't really know
even what he did in that role, if anything.
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JIM: [in AOL voice]:
You've got a visitor.
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MARC: Ha-ha.
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JIM: I just wrapped up all
my transitional stuff here.
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I just want to stop in and
let you know where we are with the antitrust case.
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MARC: Why?
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[Barksdale laughs].
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Why would you
want to update me?
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JIM: Are you, I, because it
has to do with the company,
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Marc, with our positions.
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MARC: My position?
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Is that it's over.
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JIM: It's far from over, Marc.
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Microsoft was offered the
option of negotiating an out-of-court settlement.
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They've opted not to take it.
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So it's not over.
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MARC: They're not taking
the option to settle.
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JIM: No.
MARC: Of course they're not.
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Gates will continue to
starve us out until there's nothing left; no engineers,
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no will toward continuing
to fight for open source.
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It's a victory by
demoralization and attrition.
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"Death by a thousand
paper cuts."
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It's a good
strategy, actually.
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JIM: Yes or no.
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Could it be a fool's errand?
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Of course it could.
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Could it just possibly be
an opening to achieving some sort of victory?
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I think that that
is also possible.
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MARC: Are you going
back and playing with dead snakes, Jim?
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JIM: The main thing
is, I started this thing and I'm gonna finish it.
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I made a promise to
a lot of our folks to see this thing through.
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See, the thing is, Marc.
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MARC: Thank you, Jim.
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[typing].
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JIM: Alright.
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REPORTER [over TV: The
NASDAQ finally found some life on Friday but beneath
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the broad numbers was another
day of dot-com meltdown.
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TheGlobe.com,
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one of the original
hit Internet IPOs is now 50 cents a share.
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STEPHAN: Everyone was so
frustrated that the stock kept dropping despite
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all of our performance,
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that everybody thought there
was just something broken,
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something's not working,
there's a disconnect.
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And that frustration
translated into everybody saying,
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"Well, we need more
stock because our stock keeps dropping in value.
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We need more stock."
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A pressure cooker
was building.
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I could feel that
something was gonna give.
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I don't know.
I'm out of ideas.
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I just might go see
the new John Woo movie.
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TODD: John Woo? Ugh.
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STEPHAN: Seriously?
John Woo is "ugh?"
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TODD: Bunch of operatic,
over-the-top slow-motion diving gun battles.
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STEPHAN: Dude. He's a master.
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A true artist.
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John Woo is the man.
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TODD: Meh.
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Steph, we are so
screwed, buddy.
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STEPHAN: We are?
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TODD: I don't see
any way we're not.
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STEPHAN: I mean, y'know
Todd, there are things you could do to be less screwed.
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TODD: Why are you
acting so weird?
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Oh, crap.
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PHILLIP: Bro!
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♪
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STEPHAN: Okay.
Now we're screwed.
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PHILLIP: Had a good run, boys.
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But it ends here.
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STEPHAN: You guys ready?
TODD: Ready. CODER: Let's do this.
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[screaming]
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STEPHAN: We sparked off
Internet IPO mania and we were also the beginning of the end.
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I think if we
do something radical that gets some press,
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like re-allocate 30% of.
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TODD: Steph!
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STEPHAN: What?
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TODD: Mike Egan cashed in
50 million in globe.com stock.
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STEPHAN: No.
TODD: Yes.
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STEPHAN: He's the
chairman of our board.
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TODD: It's already
being widely reported.
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STEPHAN: He didn't
even tell us.
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Mike Egan was my
[bleep] Gordon Gecko.
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He was the guy who was
like going to make the bet on the [bleep] genius
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Bud and Bud's own dad
didn't quite believe in him.
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You know?
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And it's like you finally get
to show off to your own dad.
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You found somebody who
believes in you so mightily and that will put so much
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money behind you.
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We need to go out
to the Valley.
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Create a new story,
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do some laps,
shake some hands, raise some cash.
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Let em know that
we're not dead yet.
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Maybe Bob Halperin
will even double down.
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TODD: Ok. Ok. But Steph.
STEPHAN: Yeah.
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TODD: No plastic pants.
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[both laugh].
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MICHAEL: Look at all
these beautiful minds and bodies at work!
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You are ALL my children!
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I hope we are working at
maximum efficiency here.
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What's the update on
the backend work, Brian?
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BRIAN: Ummm, it
kinda is what it is.
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Ready to ship, I guess.
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MICHAEL: "Um, uh, err,
it is what it is."
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Take out the "ums"
and "ahs," friend!
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"Ready to ship, Michael!"
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BRIAN: Ready to ship,
Mr. Fenne.
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MICHAEL: Michael!
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BRIAN: Ready to ship, Michael.
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GARY: It's odd when you're
at a circumstance like that because it's kinda
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happening to everybody.
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And a lot of it was um,
just keeping it to yourself.
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You would have opinions
about what was going on but nobody else seemed to
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be saying anything to
keep it from happening.
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BRIAN: You know, there
are all sorts of stories about what happened the
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day that Michael was
removed from Pixelon,
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when he was essentially,
you know, fired.
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DAN: The day he was
a tumultuous one.
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He's launching into these
long uh, tirades on the public-address system.
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MICHAEL:
Good morning, rock stars!
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iBash! What a victory.
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I'm so thankful
to the lord and our divine technology.
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We are on a role people,
so let's keep it up!
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And when we hit that
IPO we will be in the land of milk and honey!
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GARY: It was the dot-com era.
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Everybody there thought
that they were on the precipice of great wealth.
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It's odd what that does
to people, that sort of was the overriding thing.
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Just deal with it.
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DAN: Increasingly
the officers and the investors were saying,
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"Michael's got to go."
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MICHAEL [over intercom]:
This is The Master speaking.
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THE MASTER!!
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Frank, report to the
woodshed, your uncle is gonna give you a whoopin'!
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Frank!
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WISKOWSKI:
Lee Wiskowski here for...
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Lee Wiskowski here
for Michael Fenne.
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RECEPTIONIST: I'll check.
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Is Mr. Fenne in?
There's a Lee Wiskowski.
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WISKOWSKI: I know he's here,
I can see the door is open.
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[document shredder].
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MICHAEL: Hello, security,
this is Michael Fenne.
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Get your asses up here.
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Sha!
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Shah, sha, sheh, she.
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Phew, phew!
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Hi. Hi, I'm Michael Fenne.
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WISKOWSKI: Hey!
PAUL: Hey, Lee!
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WISKOWSKI:
What the hell, Paul?
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PAUL: I know, I know.
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Things have gotten, weird.
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WISKOWSKI: Paul,
you're the CEO.
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We hired you to keep an
eye on iBash and Fenne.
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If you can't do that, then
why the [bleep] are you here?
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WISKOWSKI: I can't
believe this is happening.
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And I just gave this
nutbucket 28 million.
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PAUL: What's happening?
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WISKOWSKI: What's happening
Paul is a fatal error.
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This is enough.
This is enough.
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Fenne has to go.
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GATES: I think in late
'95 Andreessen was talking about how he was gonna
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put us out of business.
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MARC: Well, we think that
there's a series of activities that Microsoft's been engaged
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in which may or may not be
legal and we've turned over that information to the
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Department of Justice
and they'll figure out what to do from here.
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THOMAS: The idea of having a
government committee basically have a design review over
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engineering decisions
just made Bill and people like me gag in our mouths.
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And that is probably why we
dug in our heels even though we had all these potential
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opportunities just to get
off basically with almost no penalties whatsoever.
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Looking back on that,
everybody thinks that was just disastrous thinking,
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we got our egos in the way.
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GATES: I'm not sure what
you're talking about, you'd have to show me the context.
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THOMAS: But it was born
out of this idea about like the pride of engineering and
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like Bill's ego really
is an engineer's kind of ego about,
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don't tell me how
to do my goddamn job.
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GATES: I don't see anything
about that in here.
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MARC: Well, I think
that clearly when they go into a competitive situation
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they'll use every
weapon at their disposal,
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um, the only um, the
only issue now is that some of
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those, some of those weapons
may or may not be legal and it's something for the
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government to uh, to decide.
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JIM: If I might, Mr. Chairman,
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I would like a show
of hands, how many of you use Intel-based PCs?
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And of that group,
who use PCs, how many of you use a PC without
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Microsoft's operating system?
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Gentlemen, that's a monopoly.
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GATES: Some people agree with
that, some people wouldn't.
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JOEL: Judge Jackson
had this case before him more than 2 years.
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THOMAS: A bunch of the
"Legal Team" felt like this really deeply principled
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uh thing about getting
the government out of our industry.
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GATES: Did you actually
read what was in there?
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JOEL: He found that
Microsoft had repeatedly abused its monopoly power.
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THOMAS: And why Bill stayed
with the suit you know come hell or high water.
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It was really born out of this
set of emotions around, hey, like we built this industry
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out of nothing.
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JOEL: And violated law by
crushing emerging threats to Windows dominance.
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THOMAS: To have lawyers
come in out of the hills and tell us you know we made
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the wrong engineering
decisions or the wrong design decisions was
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just like please just
stay out of our industry.
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Just stay out of it, you're
not going to add any value.
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You're just going to make
a mess of it, um, and argue you know they did.
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[door opens].
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PAUL: Michael?
DAVID: Hey Paul.
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PAUL: We need to talk.
WISKOWSKI: Right now.
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Look Michael, you've
been handing out stock options like candy,
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you just blew north of 12
million on a party to announce our tech where our tech failed,
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and now quite frankly,
you're acting a little strange.
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We need some answers
as to what the hell is going on here.
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MICHAEL: Gentlemen, I think
it would be in all our best interest if you addressed me
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with a modicum of respect.
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I am after all the chairman
of this enterprise and I am guaranteed that position for
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the next seven years
no matter what.
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WISKOWSKI: No, Michael.
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No. We're past all that.
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I'm ready to gather some
complaints for a class action lawsuit unless you can provide
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an immediate course
correction here.
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MICHAEL: Did you
just threaten me?
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After I took your
less-than-perfect money and allowed you to be my
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date to the prom?
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The one among all the
other suitors, to take this company to the stratosphere,
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where it is definitely
heading, God willing and the lake don't rise,
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as soon as we set that IPO.
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I have sweated blood and
risked everything for you.
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And you.
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PAUL: Michael.
MICHAEL: Get out.
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WISKOWSKI: I
still haven't heard.
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MICHAEL: GET OUT!!
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WISKOWSKI: We need him out.
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PAUL: We don't have
enough board members.
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WISKOWSKI: Find them.
Gather them.
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Muster their asses.
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I don't care how hard
it is, do it now.
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We need him out.
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PAUL: Okay, Steve Curtis
and Joel Shepard are local.
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WISKOWSKI: Get 'em down here.
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PAUL: Mike Kelly
is in Palo Alto.
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WISKOWSKI: We need
to do this today.
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WISKOWSKI: What the hell?
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C'mon, let's get outta here.
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PAUL: Yeah.
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DARRIN: Remember
Buck's of Woodside?
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The place where venture
capitalists and tech superstars shimmy on up the
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great Silicon Valley
River to spawn?
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Welcome back.
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EGAN: We need to listen to
every angle on how to make TheGlobe viable again.
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We're circling the drain.
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ED: We worked really hard
on our agenda this year.
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Why can't we just execute,
and not cut and run?
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EGAN: If that's some veiled
reference to my sell-off, I've already explained that I
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needed capital to
stay involved here.
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ED: I just think bringing
in the guys to pitch a whole new strategy feels desperate.
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MARC: Sorry, Jim.
JIM: Hey.
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MARC: I don't have
a lot of time.
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I have a 1:15.
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JIM: How's AOL treating you?
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MARC: I got a ton of
work to get back to.
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JIM: Sure.
You're a busy man.
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DARRIN: Here you go,
gentlemen.
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JIM: Thank you.
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DARRIN: That's right, this
man ordered a glass of milk.
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What a, I, man, what's up?
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You can see me.
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You know, I don't
really exist, right?
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MARC: I understand.
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DARRIN: My man.
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STEPHAN: Deja vu
all over again.
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TODD: We can do this.
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We can definitely do this.
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Right?
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DARRIN: Gentlemen,
welcome to Buck's.
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EGAN: So, how do you
two propose we turn our company around?
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WILL: We're really excited
about a way to completely reimagine TheGlobe.
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BRIAN: Yeah, it begins
with an entirely new staff.
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TODD: Well, well,
well, Will and Brian.
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Can't say I'm surprised
because you're a couple of [bleep], and [bleep].
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STEPHAN: Mike, Ed.
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Thank you.
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Go [bleep] yourselves.
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ED: There were a couple of
employees that were bright guys in their own right that
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were trying to do the right
thing for the company.
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DARRIN: It's just
business, fellas.
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ED: They just sort of aligned
against Todd and Steph.
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STEPHAN: It felt like a
betrayal to Todd and I.
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The fact that Mike Egan
took the meeting felt like a betrayal.
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Implying that we weren't
doing a good enough job.
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ED: They were very unhappy
um, with the fact that that meeting occurred.
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They think that we could've
handled it differently.
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Um, yeah, you know,
maybe they're right.
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JIM: This is huge.
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"Calling the world's
largest software maker untrustworthy,
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U.S. District Judge Jackson
ordered Microsoft to be broken into two smaller companies
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to prevent it from violating
state and federal antitrust laws in the future."
471
00:23:55,477 --> 00:23:57,697
This is unprecedented.
472
00:23:57,740 --> 00:24:02,005
"Microsoft was unwilling
to admit that it had violated federal antitrust law and has
473
00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:06,009
shown no willingness to
modify its business conduct."
474
00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:08,621
MARC: Sounds about right.
475
00:24:08,664 --> 00:24:10,144
JIM: Whew.
476
00:24:10,187 --> 00:24:11,928
MARC: But Jim, it
doesn't really matter.
477
00:24:11,972 --> 00:24:14,235
The war is over and we lost.
478
00:24:14,278 --> 00:24:17,238
JIM: Well, at least it'll
level the playing field for future companies.
479
00:24:18,413 --> 00:24:21,938
You remember what it was
like to be a 22-year-old wunderkind with a dream?
480
00:24:22,765 --> 00:24:26,465
Like those fellas
that just left?
481
00:24:27,074 --> 00:24:28,989
Oh, come on, Marc,
this is a win.
482
00:24:29,032 --> 00:24:31,557
We've been fighting these
sonsabitches forever.
483
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,906
And we got em.
484
00:24:32,949 --> 00:24:35,256
And it's the right call.
485
00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:39,086
The right thing finally
prevailed for one damn time in big business.
486
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:41,958
That doesn't make you happy?
487
00:24:42,002 --> 00:24:44,787
Nothing? Anything?
488
00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:48,835
MARC: Well, we'll
see if it sticks.
489
00:24:48,878 --> 00:24:52,534
Really, Jim, I do
really need to go.
490
00:24:52,578 --> 00:24:55,058
There's just so
much work to do.
491
00:24:55,842 --> 00:24:59,236
JIM: Yeah, yeah, I hear that
from anybody except Jim Clark.
492
00:25:00,194 --> 00:25:02,239
MARC: I'm pretty sure
the other Jim is riding around on his self-driving
493
00:25:02,283 --> 00:25:03,414
yacht right now.
494
00:25:03,458 --> 00:25:04,764
JIM: Maybe you need
a couple of those.
495
00:25:04,807 --> 00:25:06,766
MARC: Yeah, I don't think so.
496
00:25:06,809 --> 00:25:09,072
JIM: Maybe I need
a couple of those.
497
00:25:09,116 --> 00:25:12,989
MARC: Jim, what you did,
fighting Microsoft, that was.
498
00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:17,777
Thank you.
499
00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:20,606
JIM: I appreciate that.
500
00:25:21,171 --> 00:25:22,956
You take care of yourself.
501
00:25:22,999 --> 00:25:25,436
MARC: Yeah. I am.
502
00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:31,094
Don't get me wrong.
I think they're a great company.
503
00:25:31,138 --> 00:25:34,576
But I think there's a
paradigm shift happening here, or a platform shift where um,
504
00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:37,579
by and large things are now
happening you know, with or without Microsoft, they're,
505
00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:39,538
they're no longer the
center of the universe.
506
00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:43,585
BARKSDALE: It made
the industry more competitive as you rolled into
507
00:25:43,629 --> 00:25:45,326
the 2000 decade.
508
00:25:45,369 --> 00:25:49,025
It probably created products
like Google and uh Facebook.
509
00:25:49,939 --> 00:25:52,986
They may not have existed
had that ruling not have been passed down and
510
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:55,336
phased in and implemented.
511
00:25:57,686 --> 00:26:01,211
STEPHAN: It's just such a
stupid thing to fall for; some kind of father figure-mentor
512
00:26:01,255 --> 00:26:03,736
comes along and I turn
into an 8-year-old kid.
513
00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:06,652
TODD: Egan was the guy who
made it all happen for us;
514
00:26:06,695 --> 00:26:08,610
gave us the keys
to the kingdom.
515
00:26:08,654 --> 00:26:11,700
Just really hurts that
he'd go all the way to a full douchebag betrayal.
516
00:26:12,222 --> 00:26:14,224
STEPHAN: You think of any
possible way to fix this?
517
00:26:14,268 --> 00:26:16,662
TODD: I mean, we could
force Will and Brian out because of our position,
518
00:26:16,705 --> 00:26:19,447
but if Egan wants them in
he could just call a vote.
519
00:26:19,752 --> 00:26:22,319
STEPHAN: Hey.
TODD: What?
520
00:26:22,363 --> 00:26:24,278
STEPHAN: When's the last
time we talked about, like,
521
00:26:24,321 --> 00:26:26,585
the reason we
started this company?
522
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,373
TODD: Like our
"mission statement?"
523
00:26:32,416 --> 00:26:35,898
Oh, God.
524
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:43,427
A really, really,
really long time.
525
00:26:43,906 --> 00:26:44,951
"Change the world."
526
00:26:44,994 --> 00:26:46,213
STEPHAN:
"Democratize information."
527
00:26:46,256 --> 00:26:48,345
TODD: "Help like-minded
people find each other."
528
00:26:48,389 --> 00:26:52,523
STEPHAN: All that.
TODD: A year, two, more?
529
00:26:53,307 --> 00:26:58,312
STEPHAN: A million years ago.
TODD: Yeah.
530
00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:15,721
STEPHAN: I'm out.
531
00:27:15,764 --> 00:27:18,854
TODD: I'm out.
STEPHAN: We're out.
532
00:27:18,898 --> 00:27:20,639
It's time, buddy.
533
00:27:20,682 --> 00:27:22,945
[laughter].
534
00:27:23,772 --> 00:27:26,557
Todd and I decided that
moment, we're out, we're done, we're resigning.
535
00:27:26,601 --> 00:27:29,952
TODD: At the time that
we step down, we thought we should step down.
536
00:27:31,214 --> 00:27:33,913
One, the stock performance
was not particularly good.
537
00:27:33,956 --> 00:27:37,481
The job had become
much less fun.
538
00:27:38,047 --> 00:27:42,356
We did not think we
had a strategy that would take us through this
539
00:27:43,792 --> 00:27:45,576
time of difficulty.
540
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:49,798
And so I remember feeling
the decision to step away was entirely good.
541
00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:53,236
I thought it was appropriate
and I thought it was good.
542
00:27:54,498 --> 00:27:56,979
WISKOWSKI: I'm telling
you guys, Paul was there, Fenne was talking about
543
00:27:57,023 --> 00:27:59,112
God and spankings.
544
00:27:59,155 --> 00:28:01,767
CURTIS: More importantly,
he blew 12 million of the company's money on a
545
00:28:01,810 --> 00:28:03,464
failed beta test.
546
00:28:03,507 --> 00:28:05,640
KELLEY: I've been
looking at the books, which are a mess,
547
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,773
and it looks much more
like 20 million to me.
548
00:28:07,816 --> 00:28:10,297
WISKOWSKI: Look, it's
very possible we might need some police backup here.
549
00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:12,212
Ok, this guy's a
freakin' nutbucket.
550
00:28:12,255 --> 00:28:14,518
SHEPARD: What we need is
one more board member so we can vote this guy out,
551
00:28:14,562 --> 00:28:16,607
if that's the consensus.
552
00:28:16,651 --> 00:28:19,175
DAN: They needed one
more member to show up and he's out on a horseback ride.
553
00:28:30,012 --> 00:28:31,666
BART: Gentlemen.
554
00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:38,934
WISKOWSKI: So Michael,
you understand our position.
555
00:28:38,978 --> 00:28:41,154
We think we understand yours.
556
00:28:42,024 --> 00:28:43,896
Your chairmanship is in a
very precarious position.
557
00:28:43,939 --> 00:28:47,726
MICHAEL: I've reached
an interesting agreement with a certain gentleman
558
00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:52,034
from the board, but
we'll leave that action for last in our meeting.
559
00:28:57,518 --> 00:29:00,477
[gulping].
560
00:29:10,836 --> 00:29:13,490
WISKOWSKI: Michael.
561
00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:21,194
We're asking you to step
down as CTO and Chairman and remove yourself from the
562
00:29:21,237 --> 00:29:24,371
premises immediately,
following a binding vote by the members present.
563
00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:32,858
[table pounded].
564
00:29:48,874 --> 00:29:53,008
MICHAEL: You are all going
to burn in hell for what you're trying to do to me.
565
00:29:54,009 --> 00:29:56,229
WISKOWSKI: All in
favor of removal, aye.
566
00:29:56,925 --> 00:30:00,581
-Aye, aye, aye.
567
00:30:00,842 --> 00:30:05,629
WISKOWSKI: Paul.
PAUL: Aye.
568
00:30:11,244 --> 00:30:14,116
MICHAEL: Now I know
who my Judas is.
569
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,165
DAN: The gathering of
the board resolves when they finally muster the votes that
570
00:30:19,208 --> 00:30:23,038
they need to actually eject
Michael Fenne from Pixelon.
571
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:26,650
Finally, reality
catches up with him.
572
00:30:28,348 --> 00:30:34,397
One possible explanation for
the severance package is that they still hoped to market
573
00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:40,447
this technology to somebody
and the last thing they wanted was a disgruntled
574
00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:45,147
founder who's going
and trying to torpedo potential deals, I mean,
575
00:30:45,191 --> 00:30:47,280
that's certainly
one explanation.
576
00:30:47,323 --> 00:30:51,153
Another is that they
knew of his past and knew of his false identity,
577
00:30:52,111 --> 00:30:54,417
and wanted to keep that quiet.
578
00:30:54,461 --> 00:31:00,032
It seems clear that you would
only pay a severance package to somebody who's behaved like
579
00:31:00,815 --> 00:31:05,689
this, if you want to keep
something quiet, that you want to make something really
580
00:31:06,299 --> 00:31:09,389
unpleasant go away.
581
00:31:09,432 --> 00:31:13,959
DAVID: Crucified at the altar
of greed and mediocrity.
582
00:31:16,787 --> 00:31:19,268
Another takedown
by the Hit Squad.
583
00:31:24,404 --> 00:31:30,062
SPEAKER: How do we know
when irrational exuberance has unduly escalated asset values?
584
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,587
REPORTER [over TV]:
Investors believe they could get rich quick by
585
00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:35,763
buying Internet stock.
586
00:31:35,806 --> 00:31:38,853
Companies are going
public at prices far lower than they would have a year ago.
587
00:31:39,245 --> 00:31:40,855
Cyberspace investments
have proved to be risky.
588
00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,814
IPOs in the technology field
have been hit really hard.
589
00:31:43,858 --> 00:31:47,253
Many of those new
issues have failed to live up to expectations.
590
00:31:47,296 --> 00:31:49,255
So how did it happen?
591
00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:52,606
Why did so many investors
put so much money behind so many companies that
592
00:31:52,649 --> 00:31:54,956
had never made a dime?
593
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,654
In hindsight, it all
appears so obvious.
594
00:31:57,698 --> 00:32:01,136
The Internet mania was
a giant bubble, destined to burst.
595
00:32:03,051 --> 00:32:04,574
[gum pops].
596
00:32:06,707 --> 00:32:08,491
DARRIN: So, that happened.
597
00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:10,537
CUBAN: The bubble was
burst; the Internet stock market was dead.
598
00:32:11,407 --> 00:32:12,800
SPENCE: Why did
the bubble burst?
599
00:32:12,843 --> 00:32:16,238
Not enough was real,
and um, eventually, you know,
600
00:32:16,282 --> 00:32:17,892
investors started
pulling the plug.
601
00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,155
ROSENSWEIG: The world had
turned on the Internet, right?
602
00:32:20,199 --> 00:32:22,592
It was panic.
603
00:32:22,636 --> 00:32:25,508
People had over-extended
themselves, they had never lived in a world
604
00:32:25,552 --> 00:32:27,249
where things stop.
605
00:32:27,293 --> 00:32:29,208
And suddenly they did.
606
00:32:29,251 --> 00:32:32,820
CUBAN: Everybody had
borrowed on margin and bought stocks and the minute
607
00:32:32,863 --> 00:32:36,911
those stock prices fell
enough and they got called in on their margins,
608
00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:39,653
they had to sell,
sell at any price.
609
00:32:39,696 --> 00:32:41,916
TARA: I was certainly
impacted by the bubble burst.
610
00:32:43,135 --> 00:32:45,615
And it caused a lot of people
a lot of pain and suffering.
611
00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:48,140
ROSEANNE: Not many people
walked away billionaires.
612
00:32:48,183 --> 00:32:52,405
And I would, I would venture
to even say something I've never said before which is,
613
00:32:53,145 --> 00:32:57,062
I don't think
the right people walked away necessarily, as billionaires.
614
00:32:57,932 --> 00:33:01,240
I'm not sure it was equitable.
615
00:33:01,762 --> 00:33:04,547
And I think that's what
bothers me to this day.
616
00:33:04,591 --> 00:33:08,508
That many of those
people who I think put in their heart and soul,
617
00:33:08,551 --> 00:33:12,512
probably didn't get
quite enough really, when all was said and done.
618
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,169
And um, that's,
that's too bad.
619
00:33:20,955 --> 00:33:25,438
PATTY: The pink slip parties
came about after people started getting laid off,
620
00:33:26,221 --> 00:33:30,704
the same way the
Internet took off and the tech jobs like exploded,
621
00:33:31,487 --> 00:33:36,188
when the dot-com bust
started to happen, people were getting laid off every day
622
00:33:36,231 --> 00:33:38,581
you would hear a friend saying
they got laid off.
623
00:33:38,625 --> 00:33:40,583
It was just like
a wave of layoffs.
624
00:33:40,627 --> 00:33:43,586
When the bubble
collapsed suddenly people were losing their jobs,
625
00:33:43,630 --> 00:33:47,851
so I came up with the
idea of hosting these Pink Slip parties,
626
00:33:47,895 --> 00:33:51,116
where employers could
network and connect with potential employees.
627
00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:55,859
REPORTER [over TV:
Candlelight is not for romance, but for resumes.
628
00:33:55,903 --> 00:33:59,167
This Pink Slip happy
hour links ex-dot-comers with recruiters.
629
00:34:00,299 --> 00:34:03,345
PATTY: We'll be doing them
every month until they're not needed anymore.
630
00:34:03,389 --> 00:34:05,391
It was stressful.
631
00:34:05,434 --> 00:34:06,783
Everyone was losing
their jobs all around me and I didn't really know what
632
00:34:06,827 --> 00:34:07,915
was going to happen.
633
00:34:07,958 --> 00:34:09,438
Even my day job
laid off everybody.
634
00:34:09,482 --> 00:34:11,179
They went out of business.
635
00:34:11,223 --> 00:34:13,355
Luckily, I had just
started making money off the Pink Slip parties.
636
00:34:13,399 --> 00:34:17,751
But I didn't feel like that
was going to be long-lived because everyone was fleeing
637
00:34:17,794 --> 00:34:21,146
by the thousands.
638
00:34:22,756 --> 00:34:24,584
We are going to drink.
639
00:34:24,627 --> 00:34:26,586
Dance a little.
Network a lot.
640
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:31,025
And by the end of the
night, we will have new jobs or at the very least,
641
00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:34,376
not remember losing
our old ones.
642
00:34:37,292 --> 00:34:39,381
♪ Come take your base
and start the race ♪
643
00:34:39,425 --> 00:34:41,992
♪ Come take your guitar ♪
644
00:34:42,036 --> 00:34:44,821
PATTY: The Pink Slip
parties lasted about a year and a half and then I had
645
00:34:44,865 --> 00:34:46,388
to close the site.
646
00:34:46,432 --> 00:34:48,608
Honestly, it was
kind of a relief.
647
00:35:01,925 --> 00:35:04,145
ROBERT: I'd like to report
a sighting of a fugitive.
648
00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:09,368
DAN: Somehow Michael Fenne
gets wind gets wind that his secret identity
649
00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,327
has been blown.
650
00:35:12,371 --> 00:35:17,202
DAVID: I'm a child of God who
made a mistake and who has suffered miserably for that.
651
00:35:20,596 --> 00:35:22,903
♪ Life, by Marshall Mathers♪
652
00:35:24,296 --> 00:35:27,037
♪ What's life?
Life's like a big obsicle. ♪
653
00:35:27,081 --> 00:35:29,518
♪ In front of your optical,
to slow you down.♪
654
00:35:29,562 --> 00:35:32,391
♪ And everytime you think
you've gotten past it, it's gonna come back around♪
655
00:35:32,434 --> 00:35:35,176
♪ and tackle you
to the damn ground.♪
656
00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:37,700
♪ What are friends?♪
657
00:35:37,744 --> 00:35:40,138
♪ Friends are people you
think are your friends but they're really your enemies♪
658
00:35:40,181 --> 00:35:43,141
♪ with secret identities
and disguises to hide they true colors.♪
659
00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:46,187
♪ So, just when you
think you're close enough to be brothers♪
660
00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:48,929
♪ they wanna come back
and cut your throuat when you ain't looking.♪
661
00:35:48,972 --> 00:35:51,192
♪ What is money?♪
662
00:35:51,236 --> 00:35:53,673
♪ Money is what make
a man act funny.♪
663
00:35:53,716 --> 00:35:55,892
♪ Money is the
root of all evil♪♪
664
00:35:55,936 --> 00:36:00,549
DAN: I was mystified when
I learned that Michael Fenne was an elaborate cover for a
665
00:36:00,593 --> 00:36:03,987
fugitive from the law,
David Kim Stanley.
666
00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:07,252
I didn't understand how
that could've happened.
667
00:36:07,295 --> 00:36:09,254
I didn't understand how
I could've missed it.
668
00:36:09,297 --> 00:36:12,779
I didn't understand
how multiple investors could have missed it.
669
00:36:14,084 --> 00:36:16,348
I didn't understand how the
world could've missed this.
670
00:36:17,218 --> 00:36:20,308
♪ Tired of having to
borrow a dollar for gas to start my Monte Carlo.♪
671
00:36:21,135 --> 00:36:24,007
♪ Tired of havin to
work cause the gas station clerk with his germs♪
672
00:36:24,051 --> 00:36:26,401
♪ breathing down my neck,
driving me berserk.♪
673
00:36:26,445 --> 00:36:28,490
♪ I'm tired of using
plastic silverware.♪
674
00:36:28,534 --> 00:36:30,231
♪ Tired of working
at Builders Square.♪
675
00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:32,407
♪ Tired of not
being a millionaire.♪
676
00:36:32,451 --> 00:36:34,366
♪ But if I had a
million dollars,♪
677
00:36:34,409 --> 00:36:37,456
♪ I'd by a damn
brewery and turn the planet into alcoholics♪
678
00:36:38,544 --> 00:36:40,937
♪ If I had a million bucks,
it wouldn' be enough♪
679
00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:43,549
♪ Cause I'd still be out
robbing armored trucks.♪♪
680
00:36:46,943 --> 00:36:50,643
DAN: This was a company
that had spent, upwards of 8 to 12 million dollars
681
00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:54,864
on a launch party,
and was extensively chronicled in the news.
682
00:36:55,082 --> 00:36:56,257
How could this happen?
683
00:36:56,301 --> 00:36:57,998
I still don't really know.
684
00:36:58,041 --> 00:37:01,001
BRIAN: We found out
that, you know, he wasn't who he said he was.
685
00:37:02,045 --> 00:37:04,831
We found out that he was
you wanted on, you know, charges from another state.
686
00:37:05,527 --> 00:37:08,138
The word was he was, you know,
a fugitive from the law.
687
00:37:08,182 --> 00:37:09,749
GARY: That just blew my mind.
688
00:37:09,792 --> 00:37:12,273
Virginia's 10
Most Wanted List.
689
00:37:12,317 --> 00:37:14,144
David Kim Stanley.
690
00:37:14,188 --> 00:37:16,451
I, I was flabbergasted.
691
00:37:16,495 --> 00:37:18,105
I couldn't believe it.
692
00:37:34,121 --> 00:37:40,127
♪
693
00:37:44,784 --> 00:37:49,005
DAVID: Hi. This is
David Kim Stanley.
694
00:37:49,049 --> 00:37:54,576
I'm at Big Bear
discount gas, I'll be on a bench by a large bear.
695
00:37:58,406 --> 00:38:00,016
[Police sirens].
696
00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:02,628
[tires screeching].
697
00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:07,807
[Radio chatter].
698
00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:17,643
[handcuffs close].
699
00:38:20,907 --> 00:38:22,648
OFFICER [over radio]:
Copy, be advised,
700
00:38:22,691 --> 00:38:25,955
David Kim Stanley
is in custody, we're transporting now.
701
00:38:35,791 --> 00:38:38,141
REPORTER: First comes the
boom, then the shake out.
702
00:38:38,185 --> 00:38:41,536
Streaming video sight,
Pixelon.com is mired in lawsuits seeking the breakup
703
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:43,364
of the company.
704
00:38:43,408 --> 00:38:47,455
DAN: When he talked
about his technology, he had a glimmer in his eye.
705
00:38:48,543 --> 00:38:51,590
There was almost a halo
emanating from his head.
706
00:38:51,633 --> 00:38:55,594
He either really did believe
it himself, or he was a very, very convincing actor.
707
00:38:56,769 --> 00:39:00,860
CUBAN: It didn't matter if
it was 1895, 1995, or 2018.
708
00:39:01,991 --> 00:39:05,081
Scams all follow the
same basic playbook.
709
00:39:05,125 --> 00:39:08,346
Everybody's getting rich,
you're being left out.
710
00:39:09,608 --> 00:39:14,264
DAVID: It was getting
bigger and crazier than I imagined it ever could.
711
00:39:14,308 --> 00:39:16,049
DAN: And yet you continued.
712
00:39:16,092 --> 00:39:19,226
DAVID: Because it
burned inside of me.
713
00:39:20,096 --> 00:39:23,796
DAN: Would you have
kept running forever?
714
00:39:25,537 --> 00:39:29,758
DAVID: I always planned to
come back and you can't argue with that because I did.
715
00:39:32,805 --> 00:39:35,547
DAN: And what would you like
the world to know about you?
716
00:39:42,336 --> 00:39:48,037
DAVID: I'm a child of God
who made a mistake and has suffered terribly for it.
717
00:40:00,136 --> 00:40:02,878
HUFFINGTON: It was
more important than you can imagine right now,
718
00:40:02,922 --> 00:40:06,360
when the concept of
the browser and the Web and the Internet
719
00:40:06,404 --> 00:40:08,536
have become conflated.
720
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:14,673
But, when, um, the browser,
mm, was created, it changed the whole experience
721
00:40:15,935 --> 00:40:17,763
of being online.
722
00:40:17,806 --> 00:40:22,724
So it's interesting
that the first browser was called Navigator um,
723
00:40:23,986 --> 00:40:27,468
it made it possible
to really explore.
724
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:34,170
ED: The fact that anyone in
the world can connect to you from anywhere in the world,
725
00:40:35,911 --> 00:40:42,004
anytime of day, any day,
at high speed in an instant, is unbelievable.
726
00:40:44,311 --> 00:40:48,446
CLARK: It was a great ride
and we changed the world, we kicked off the commercial
727
00:40:48,489 --> 00:40:52,406
Internet, make no mistake
about that and I don't think it would've happened in the
728
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:55,453
same time frame without us.
729
00:40:56,018 --> 00:41:01,328
ROSEANNE: It really
unleased the power of an inter-connected world.
730
00:41:02,851 --> 00:41:07,116
BARKSDALE: What we did was
very, very important and I'm glad and I think almost
731
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,946
everybody associated
with it takes a great deal of pride in being part of
732
00:41:10,990 --> 00:41:13,775
something that big
and worthwhile.
733
00:41:13,819 --> 00:41:16,517
You know, we weren't
just picking our toes in Poughkeepsie.
734
00:41:18,301 --> 00:41:22,262
RULON-MILLER: We were at
the time in Silicon Valley uh, the revolutionaries.
735
00:41:23,437 --> 00:41:26,658
We were the ones that would
take down the big companies, Microsoft being one of them.
736
00:41:27,702 --> 00:41:33,099
And we had a suction drawing
of brilliant people that said, I wanna be in the resistance,
737
00:41:33,142 --> 00:41:35,362
I wanna fight that.
738
00:41:35,405 --> 00:41:38,974
TARA: There was definitely a
Phoenix-like element to the dream of, of a free browser.
739
00:41:40,106 --> 00:41:43,675
Firefox, which is sort of the
evolution of everything that we were doing back in the '90s
740
00:41:43,718 --> 00:41:47,592
with Netscape, has succeeded
where, where we maybe as a corporation failed,
741
00:41:48,157 --> 00:41:50,638
the ideal succeeded
and I love that.
742
00:41:50,682 --> 00:41:52,553
I was just a build engineer.
743
00:41:52,597 --> 00:41:55,817
But I was
part of something that was special and I still think,
744
00:41:55,861 --> 00:41:58,559
I think a lot of us still
think it was truly special.
745
00:41:58,603 --> 00:42:02,607
RULON-MILLER: It was an
incredible time, it's the most joyous time of my work life.
746
00:42:04,565 --> 00:42:06,045
[sighs].
747
00:42:06,088 --> 00:42:09,614
SPENCE: What we really were,
when people dug creating things,
748
00:42:09,657 --> 00:42:13,966
and it was very artistic,
totally artistic, and so we, we were able to collectively
749
00:42:14,009 --> 00:42:16,446
make our art.
750
00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:21,234
And get it to the people
via the Internet and in giving them this product,
751
00:42:21,843 --> 00:42:24,542
we were giving them
the Internet too.
752
00:42:26,108 --> 00:42:28,633
Perfect. Perfect.
753
00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:32,201
TODD: The story of
the beginning of the dot-com era is often told
754
00:42:32,245 --> 00:42:34,029
with these tales of
755
00:42:34,073 --> 00:42:38,251
absolute madness, sort of,
both extravagance, which we did not have,
756
00:42:38,947 --> 00:42:41,950
as well as ethical lapses.
757
00:42:42,603 --> 00:42:47,608
Think about all of the hand
ringing and, and lawsuits at the end of this period.
758
00:42:48,914 --> 00:42:51,177
We did not have any of that.
759
00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:52,961
It was, it was positive.
760
00:42:53,005 --> 00:42:57,139
ED: We're positive
people, but I'd be lying if I didn't say uh,
761
00:42:58,445 --> 00:43:00,665
it wasn't a disappointment.
762
00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:04,930
STEPHAN: Netscape represented
the beginning of "The New Era" of technology and a browser.
763
00:43:06,018 --> 00:43:10,588
TheGlobe simply represented
a concept of "The Internet" and virtual community
764
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:12,067
and living online.
765
00:43:12,111 --> 00:43:14,069
So that's what created
these incredible surges.
766
00:43:14,113 --> 00:43:17,420
Nobody was buying into
the specifics of TheGlobe.
767
00:43:17,464 --> 00:43:21,033
ED: To both their tributes,
Todd and Steph and Michael, they both saw it.
768
00:43:21,424 --> 00:43:23,644
They knew it.
769
00:43:23,688 --> 00:43:27,387
STEPHAN: And yeah, TheGlobe,
you know, has been regarded as a precursor to Facebook.
770
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:33,219
ED: It was just a moment
in time where the entire sector was a bit early.
771
00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:38,311
STEPHAN: When Facebook
started in 2004'ish, it was ten years after TheGlobe,
772
00:43:39,747 --> 00:43:43,316
computers cost one
one-hundredth, bandwidth was one one-thousandth.
773
00:43:43,925 --> 00:43:46,101
So I have no regrets there.
774
00:43:46,145 --> 00:43:47,973
I don't think we could have
pulled off Facebook but we came as close to pulling off
775
00:43:48,016 --> 00:43:51,541
Facebook as one could have in
the, the first dot-com era.
776
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,241
TARA: You know it's like,
what we unleashed was sort of the, the joking thing.
777
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,070
And we have unleashed
something completely uncontrollable,
778
00:43:58,113 --> 00:44:01,421
but that's what I love
about the Internet now is that at the moment it is
779
00:44:01,464 --> 00:44:04,337
uncontrollable and we
actually need to make sure it stays that way.
780
00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:06,600
CUBAN: All of us
benefit from technology and are afraid of it.
781
00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:10,691
All of us look at our
kids and see how quickly they adopt to new technology and
782
00:44:10,735 --> 00:44:12,127
wonder how they do it.
783
00:44:12,171 --> 00:44:14,216
And you know what?
784
00:44:14,260 --> 00:44:16,741
They're gonna feel the
same way about their kids who are gonna feel the same
785
00:44:16,784 --> 00:44:18,525
way about their kids.
786
00:44:18,568 --> 00:44:22,268
ROSENSWEIG: This town is
always gonna have another shot, another leg,
787
00:44:22,703 --> 00:44:24,749
we just don't know what it is,
788
00:44:24,792 --> 00:44:26,925
we don't know when this
leg's gonna end and we don't know when the next one's
789
00:44:26,968 --> 00:44:28,796
gonna start or
what's gonna start it.
790
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,712
But that's what Silicon
Valley has proven to be.
791
00:44:31,756 --> 00:44:34,280
STEPHAN: I am so glad
I was there for the Internet revolution.
792
00:44:34,323 --> 00:44:36,717
I'm happy to be
around for the, for the cryptocurrency and
793
00:44:36,761 --> 00:44:38,676
crypto revolution in general.
794
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,505
HUFFINGTON: The
world keeps changing, and being able to tap into this
795
00:44:42,549 --> 00:44:47,293
zeitgeist is going to
be key to the long term success of the product.
796
00:45:01,307 --> 00:45:07,356
♪
797
00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:13,406
DAVID: I will be in this and
many other places of splendor.
798
00:45:15,756 --> 00:45:18,367
I will be singing and playing,
799
00:45:18,411 --> 00:45:21,762
and taking a true
love with me to all the places you will only be able
800
00:45:21,806 --> 00:45:24,460
to think about in your head.
801
00:45:24,504 --> 00:45:27,115
I will live them.
802
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:32,860
And the saddest part for
you is that I am maybe one of the few people alive that can
803
00:45:32,904 --> 00:45:35,776
actually accomplish this.
804
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:41,390
Recover completely from
the fatal wound that you gave and rise like a Phoenix
805
00:45:41,434 --> 00:45:45,873
from the ashes of
fiery death to be reborn so much better than before.
806
00:45:48,267 --> 00:45:53,272
And you know if I have
anything, I have that kind of gift from God.
807
00:45:55,361 --> 00:45:57,406
But now.
808
00:45:58,668 --> 00:46:02,107
Onto the good stuff
of my new life.
809
00:46:07,242 --> 00:46:13,248
♪
810
00:46:24,651 --> 00:46:31,136
♪
811
00:46:41,363 --> 00:46:47,805
♪
812
00:46:58,467 --> 00:47:04,473
♪
813
00:47:16,529 --> 00:47:23,014
♪
814
00:47:52,173 --> 00:47:53,218
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