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BARKSDALE: I'm just not
100% sold on going public.
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CLARK: Even with Microsoft
entering the arena,
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the IPO gives us
room to expand,
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to stay ahead,
not just keep up.
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PATERNOT: Till we need more
money, I can make some calls.
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KRIZELMAN: We won't be
able to keep it afloat with a few grand here and there.
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PATERNOT: Netscape
reached $5 million from a 30-minute meeting.
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KRIZELMAN: We need
venture capitalists.
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CLARK: NASDAQ is pumping.
Why don't we have a price?
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BARKSDALE: $71 a share.
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KRISELMAN: Another
round of begging friends and family for money?
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-Did you guys see this yet?
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PATERNOT: If anybody needed
proof that the Internet is real, here you go.
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BARKSDALE: We are the top
browser in the business, so congratulations.
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[cheers].
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ANDREESON: It also
makes us a target.
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DARRIN: I'm trying to get a
round trip ticket to San Jose.
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Actually make that one-way.
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-Hey there, are
you uh new to town?
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FENNE: I sure am.
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I'm actually looking
for some office space.
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REPORTER [over TV]:
When Netscape went public, investors couldn't get enough.
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FENNE: Huh. I'm
Michael Fenne.
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♪ -In New York City
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♪ In New York State ♪
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HUFFINGTON: The boom
was a product of what we now call FOMO,
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you know the
fear of missing out.
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RULON-MILLER: Did we attract
a lot more people who thought they could make money?
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HUFFINGTON: So you had a
very large number of people who didn't understand
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what these products
were, they wanted to take it on the train even
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though they didn't
know where the hell the train was going.
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CUBAN: Everybody thought they
could get rich with a website, with a, new technology,
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with an advancement of
the technology, you know,
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and people who weren't
making money felt like they were left out.
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GOODIN: It was most
definitely a gold rush.
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[cheering].
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GOODIN: The rush to become
the next Yahoo or the next Amazon.com is exactly what
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made everybody
look the other way, uh and allow Michael Fenne
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to pull the wool
over people's eyes.
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♪ With mighty chest
and voice so mellow ♪
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♪ I am a most
beautiful fellow ♪♪
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FENNE: I am doing
Marcus Aurelius in the Easter drama here
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and I have to wear a
Roman legion battle toga.
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It is so cool.
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I was trying
to take a picture and show you the new me,
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but I am still afraid that
names deleted may betray me and take it to the officials.
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I finally got my
hair the way I intended.
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It took five treatments
with salon coloring, but it looks absolutely good.
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Even if I could I would not
go back to my original color,
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because this looks so cool.
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Almost blinding.
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When I get my face done, even
name deleted may not recognize me when I see her this summer,
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but she'll know me,
I know she will.
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I am getting brown now,
very hot here, and am, yes, supplementing with a tanning
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bed for the Easter drama,
since Romans were bronze.
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♪ These big sweet
lips that I carry ♪
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♪ I plant on
everything I marry ♪♪
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FENNE: What say
you, Lucius Veras?
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-Marcus Aurelius, is
it the truth you tell?
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FENNE: Everything we hear
is an opinion, not a fact.
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Everything we see is a
perspective, not truth.
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-But sir, do you or
do you not dissemble?
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FENNE: Do you not see?
It matters not.
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Our life is what
our thoughts make it.
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-Marcus Aurelius,
I beseech you.
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Defend the city of
Rome and its citizens.
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Senators, we must
speak of war provisions.
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♪ To keep
myself in shape ♪
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♪ And make the
little girls go ape ♪
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♪ I'm just so pretty ♪
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♪ Just so pretty ♪
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♪ Oh, I'm so beautiful ♪♪
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REPORTER [over TV]:
The Silicon Valley money machine is still cranking.
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REPORTER [over TV]: They
are buying the $4 million, the $3 million homes.
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REPORTER [over TV]: Welcome
to the front lines of the technology revolution.
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REPORTER [over TV]:
These kids are 25 to 35.
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And they've all made it.
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ROSENSWEIG: There was The
Valley before Netscape.
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And The Valley
after Netscape.
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BERLIN: Things were
changing like this, gradual, gradual, and then boom!
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Hockey stick, you were in
a completely different place.
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ROSENSWEIG: They were raising
fund after fund after fund.
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$400 million, $800 million
to invest in this new thing called the Internet.
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BERLIN: Never had there
been anything on the scale of what happened
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when the Internet hit
and the dot com showed up.
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ROSENSWEIG: There was
a proliferation of wealth and there were different
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kinds of
people moving here.
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All the
Harvard Business School started to come in when they
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would never come to
Silicon Valley before this.
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MURRAY: It was much
more of a scene.
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It became a scene.
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CUBAN: Once you came
up with a, an idea.
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Well then it was just a
question of getting people to believe in that idea
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and riches were possible.
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HUFFINGTON: Netscape
really changed everything,
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the beginning of what now has
become much, much more common.
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To have an engineer,
a geek, become a rock star.
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-This is absolutely
the number one seller.
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-And how much does
this one go for?
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-They're approximately a
quarter million dollars.
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-Wow.
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REPORTER [over TV]:
February was a great month at Ferrari of Los Gatos.
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REPORTER [over TV]: The
Nasdaq was soaring and its Silicon Valley customers
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rushed to convert
stock market riches:
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into sinew, steel
and fire engine red paint.
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-We sold 7 of these things
in one Friday afternoon.
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CLARK: D'Anne was just a
warm, nice jovial person.
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So I think she made everyone
feel at home and at ease
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and she was a little
like a den mother.
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You always need
someone like D'Anne.
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D'ANNE: I was
Jim Clark's secretary.
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When he started Netscape
with Marc Andreessen, he said,
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it's a risk with
pretty much zero job security,
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but I can offer you
stock options, and I was in.
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The boys called
me "Netscape Mom."
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And, y'know, it worked out.
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I worked so hard
to literally dress these guys and tie their ties but,
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after the IPO,
suddenly I was rich!
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And overnight, "Netscape"
was a name that everyone knew.
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Hi Marc.
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ANDREESSEN: Hi, D'Anne.
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RULON-MILLER: What
changed in our culture or individually after the IPO,
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not as much as
you would think.
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A lot of it was
nose to the grindstone,
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"We've got a mission and a
vision to change the world."
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I mean, some of
us knew we'd made money, don't get me wrong.
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We weren't stupid.
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But we had a higher
paradigm and vision of what we wanted to do.
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D'ANNE: Yeah baby,
blow the top off!
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It just keeps going up
and you can see it happen!
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BARKSDALE: Hey, guys,
know how we feel about celebrations of success.
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Let's just keep our
eyes on the prize.
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D'ANNE: Jim.
BARKSDALE: Yeah?
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D'ANNE: We already
got the prize.
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And our stock just went
up another 12%.
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BARKSDALE: I hear you,
darling, I really do.
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I just want to make sure we're
all focused on getting this company to the finish line
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so we can all keep all this
imaginary stock option money.
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Because it ain't
real till it's real.
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D'ANNE: Fair, fair enough.
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BARKSDALE: Alright.
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CLARK: And this is
another Barksdale quote:
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"The main thing
is to always keep the main thing the main thing."
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That's what Barksdale was
trying to do when he said
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don't get too
distracted about this IPO.
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BARKSDALE: Oh, and D'Anne.
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Some of these people
weren't here before the IPO.
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I just wanna make sure
they're excited to be here and they all feel like
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they're part of the team, so.
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D'ANNE: Got it.
BARKSDALE: You get it.
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D'ANNE: Yeah.
It went up again!
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BARKSDALE: Good
morning, Sunshine!
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ANDREESSEN: Okay
Jim, whatta you want?
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BARKSDALE: Why does it mean
I want something just cause I greet you in a friendly manner?
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ANDREESSEN: Do I need
to repeat the question?
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BARKSDALE: Okay, fine,
I'll skip the niceties.
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We're taking the
Microsoft meeting.
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ANDREESSEN: Ok.
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BARKSDALE: I want
to see their cards.
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ANDREESSEN: I can
tell you what's in their hand right now.
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BARKSDALE: Lay it on me.
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ANDREESSEN: Gates will try
to close us on some kind of strategic partnership.
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And then basically lock us up
in their tower like Rapunzel.
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BARKSDALE: Or eliminate
us entirely like a gnat.
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ANDREESSEN: Nah,
we're too big.
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BARKSDALE: Really?
ANDREESSEN: Well aren't we?
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BARKSDALE: Next to Microsoft?
ANDREESSEN: Market share.
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BARKSDALE: True. But I doubt
Bill Gates sees it that way.
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ANDREESSEN: True.
Great talk.
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BARKSDALE: Always.
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FENNE: Really nice space.
Really nice. I like it.
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CHUCK: Thanks. Yeah,
well, it works out.
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FENNE: Yeah. Well, I can
definitely help you out,
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bring your people
into the 21st Century.
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I know the complete
Office Suite very well.
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In fact, I'm friendly with the
Microsoft team in Redmond,
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it really is a small
community of innovators.
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CHUCK: Really? Well,
that's very impressive.
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I'm still kinda
getting up to speed.
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FENNE: Thing is, I've
got some pretty big things going on, so.
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CHUCK: Big things?
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FENNE: Oh, the Internet
is changing the game, Chuck.
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But you know
better than anyone,
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anyone that doesn't
get on board is gonna miss out in some very meaningful ways.
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CHUCK: Well, I'm
hoping to get on board.
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FENNE: I'm in the process of
not only changing the game, but blowing the game to bits.
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Revolutionary stuff,
consulting some pretty big players.
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CHUCK: That's exciting.
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FENNE: Lord help me.
Saudis, you name it. Yeah.
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Big money, big headache!
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CHUCK: I guess.
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FENNE: Yeah. I can help
you out during the day, okay,
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and then I'll just
get most of my business done later or at night.
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Sound good?
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CHUCK: Terrific. Uh, the way
we work it around here is you
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just give me a small deposit,
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I'll cut you a good deal
on the space in exchange for some lessons.
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FENNE: Or, how about
this: let's just skip the deposit and lowered rate,
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and I just cut you
in on my repair gig,
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slide over some
of that Saudi money? 5%?
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CHUCK: Oil money?
Hell yeah, that could work!
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FENNE: Alright.
CHUCK: Alright.
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PATERNOT: Jesus
Christ, I am so tired.
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DARRIN: Allow me.
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That's okay, I'll
get the next one!
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Like it's that easy for
a brother to get a cab around this mother...
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Hi! Hi, hi.
Hey there. Remember me? No?
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Well, that's okay, most
people don't remember the stockbrokers.
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But me myself, yeah,
I'm going be here for a while, so get used to me.
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The name's at
the bottom. Check it.
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Name is not
at the bottom. Uh.
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Has anybody seen my chyron?
Has anybody seen my chyron?
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I apologize ma'am.
You didn't deserve that.
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There it is, oh!
It's Darrin, here we go, just.
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My name is Darrin.
Sagittarius.
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My turn-ons, well check
it out, I like let's see, long walks on the beach.
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I like private jets.
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Milton Friedman-style
free market capitalism.
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I mean, look at them.
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Aren't they just adorable?
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You know, it's easy to look
at them now and know they were on the right track, at least,
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at least that they were
in the right zone.
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I mean, these dudes
basically invented Facebook.
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And you can keep your pithy
comment, Mark Zuckerberg;
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you got a lot on
your plate right now. Shh.
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But what if we were talking
not about "social networking," but I don't know, uh,
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bitcoin or self-driving
cars or something that geeks are geeking about today,
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would you just know
that it was right then?
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Gotcha, didn't I?
Cue the taxi.
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Cue the sheer disappointment
on my face when I realize,
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they ain't pickin'
up brothers right now.
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Hard to get a taxi
around here, you know.
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I should create
an app for that.
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That'll never work.
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It's not much, but I'm
gonna make it my home from this day forward,
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and you know what
I'm gonna do?
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I'm gonna make J-Lo-sized
buttloads of money right here in this bland little strip
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mall called Silicon Valley.
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That's what I'm gonna do.
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Oh, wow, do you smell that?
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That is the smell
of billions and billions of dollars beginning
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to pour into the Valley.
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Oh, yeah.
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Wall Street has finally got a
new favorite child, one that seemed to skip the coltish
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adolescence with the
headgear adnt he face acne,
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and turn into an
overnight supermodel.
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Oh.
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Good luck, fellas!
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PATERNOT: I think within the
first month, there were always users in one of our chatrooms,
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let's launch the second
chatroom and then a third chatroom and our user base
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went from a few hundred
users the first month to a few thousand second month,
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to like 10, 15,000 the next
month and it kept doubling up, month over month.
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The most frustrating thing
for us, was knowing not only were we on to something
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revolutionary, but that we
were exploding in growth
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and couldn't get enough
money to help us support it.
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KRIZELMAN: I don't know, man.
I don't know anything anymore.
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PATERNOT: Well, Todd,
we better figure out how we're gonna fake it.
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We're broke. Again.
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KRIZELMAN: I feel like we
go broke every two weeks.
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PATERNOT: Yeah, that
sounds about right.
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KRIZELMAN: I mean,
what the hell.
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Bob Halperin is a
really smart dude.
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PATERNOT: Raychem was huge.
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KRIZELMAN: But, he's
used to putting his money into a product,
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something he could
hold in his hand.
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This is not a tech guy,
certainly not a guy who's gonna respond to a web-based,
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non-monetizing, non-product.
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PATERNOT: Netscape.
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KRIZELMAN: We're not
selling Netscape.
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PATERNOT: But Netscape
is selling us.
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KRIZELMAN: Okay,
Obi-wan. Spit.
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PATERNOT: All we have
to say is "Netscape."
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That's all anybody's
talking about in the Valley.
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Nobody gives a crap
about anything else.
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And what is Netscape?
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KRIZELMAN: I dunno, rich?
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PATERNOT: Yes. And web-based.
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KRIZELMAN: I hear you,
Steph, and yet all I hear when we go to pitch
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this idea is a
giant sucking sound.
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PATERNOT: All we need
is somebody who's willing to roll the dice with us.
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KRIZELMAN: Before
we go bankrupt.
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PATERNOT: Hey Todd.
KRIZELMAN: Yeah?
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PATERNOT: Do we really
have to sleep in your childhood bunk beds again?
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KRIZELMAN: They're free.
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REARDON: We were just
getting better and better at recruiting.
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We became the place
if you were a serious high-end software engineer
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to come and work.
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We were killing it.
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I will say, I've never
worked any place in my life as competitive as Microsoft,
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like Microsoft
liked competition.
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MURRAY: Microsoft is
gonna compete with us?
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That's insane.
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They're like,
they're a mountain.
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They focus on market
share, like owning markets.
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We saw, you know, Microsoft
doing probably everything they could come up with to erode
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our market share and we
just didn't play like that.
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We didn't respect that.
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Netscape was about trying to
bring the Internet to people.
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Microsoft was about
market share, and they did it exceptionally well.
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BARKSDALE: Gentlemen.
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The browser war began
as a news story.
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I don't know who
coined the term.
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We didn't coin it.
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MURRAY: We're in a
browser war, dude.
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What's that?
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BARKSDALE: You keep sittin'
there, you're gonna find out.
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DARRIN: Ok,
I get it. Cue yawn.
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So here is what I am going
to do for you, I'm gonna liven things up a little bit,
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you know, you get the juices
goin', I'm gonna bring in a couple of mob boys,
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some freestylers that I know,
Checkmate and Concise, and they're gonna tell you exactly
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what the Browser
Wars were in a classic mid-90s style rap battle.
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And for your listening
pleasure, yours truly will provide the beat.
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[beat boxing].
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♪ Lemme tell y'all a story
about a mighty company ♪
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♪ Ruled the world of
software up until '93 ♪
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♪ Then Bill Gates
wanted Netscape dead ♪
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♪ So he called
a fateful meeting this is what he said ♪
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♪Yo, before you keep on lyin'
let me make a [bleep] point ♪
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♪ That up until this moment
Netscape ran the joint ♪
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♪ The idea of the 'net
flew over Bill Gates' head ♪
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♪ Andreessen, Clark
and Barksdale had the browser makin' bread ♪
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♪ Netscape shows up with
their brand of perspicacity ♪
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♪ Blended oh so sweetly
with unusual tenacity ♪
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♪ While Gates and his crew
show a paucity of gravity ♪
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♪ and a [bleep]
greed near-depravity ♪
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♪ Right or wrong, 'cause
it doesn't really matter ♪
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♪ When Gates bring out
the hammer, yo your kneecaps will shatter ♪
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♪ Be that as it may this
whole thing is a bust ♪
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♪ 'Cause what Bill Gates
did is called ANTI-TRUST! ♪♪
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DARRIN: Oh my God!
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REARDON: Uh, wanna
talk about this crazy meeting with Netscape?
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BARKSDALE: We all remember
our side of the story, let's just put it that way.
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CLARK: I didn't
like Microsoft. At all.
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RULON-MILLER: I've
been saying they're good guys and I respect them.
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Off-camera I would
say something.
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ROSEN: Before we get too
far down the road, I just want to be really clear
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that Microsoft essentially
owns the Internet.
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If you wish to have
a partnership with us,
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then you'll need to get
on board with the idea that Netscape needs to cooperate,
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become a partner
who essentially builds on our core services.
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REARDON: So, either
partner or compete.
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And I think we all
know how that will go.
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BARKSDALE: How do
you see that going?
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ROSEN: Competing?
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BARKSDALE: Yeah.
ROSEN: Seriously?
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BARKSDALE: Yeah.
REARDON: Against Microsoft?
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BARKSDALE: We were
the little guys.
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We were one-one-thousandth
the size of Microsoft or something.
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They were coming after us, you
know, pissed all of us off.
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REARDON: The kind of meeting
that they talked about is not the kind of meeting I was in
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and certainly not the
meeting that my colleague actually remember happening.
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We were in the room with Jim
Barksdale who is one of the legendary CEOs in the history
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of American commerce.
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BARKSDALE: You don't wanna,
what's the ol' saying, spit on Superman's cape,
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or something like that?
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REARDON: So, the accounting
that we heard about that meeting of us going down there
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and making these threats to
them has always cracked us up.
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We found out later that
they had already retained this anti-trust counsel,
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that they had been
trained on what kind of things to probe with us.
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They were on a mission
to get some documentation uh to be able
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to file anti-trust
claims against us.
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This was a 2-hour
lunch meeting.
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My colleague and I, like,
none of us were eating and uh, in the middle of the meeting a
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pizza shows up to the
conference room that we're in.
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And it's not a pizza for
us, it's a pizza for Marc.
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Okay, we're all sittin'
around the table, hungry and Marc just opens up the box
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and starts eating in
the middle of this meeting.
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It was clear Marc was not
taking us seriously as peers or as an interested party.
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He was sort of looking
at it as like a lark to meet with us.
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I think it was deliberate,
like I think he's an incredibly calculating person,
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and incredibly
socially cunning.
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He's an elite thinker.
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ANDREESON: You know what?
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Sometimes a pizza
is just a pizza.
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BARKSDALE: At one point
in the meeting, they said, well, how about we do this?
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We'll take all
the browser business that runs on Microsoft software
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and you all take the rest.
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And I said well that's pretty
slim margin there, buddy.
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MURRAY: The primary
desktop OS was Windows,
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so they controlled
the platform that had the majority of our users.
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BARKSDALE: That's really when
Microsoft officially declared their efforts against us.
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Did that really just happen?
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Did they just threaten us?
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ANDREESSEN: I wrote it all
down, because I knew it would be too surreal to fathom.
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But I didn't expect it
to go quite like that.
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BARKSDALE: They
want us to what?
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Take a little corner of
the Internet and disappear?
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ANDREESSEN:
Yeah. Essentially.
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BARKSDALE: Maybe
this is a good thing.
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ANDREESSEN: In what way?
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BARKSDALE: Maybe they
just broke the law.
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FENNE: Damn these are good.
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Looking good!
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DUNNING: Michael Fenne?
FENNE: Huh?
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DUNNING: Hi, I'm
Robert Dunning, nice to meet you. I'm a designer.
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FENNE: Mhm.
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DUNNING: A friend of mine
from the church said you might be a good person to talk to.
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FENNE: Well, that depends on
what we're talking about, ha!
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DUNNING: He said you might
be interested in investing in or developing new
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Internet and
computer technology.
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FENNE: Well, I have a
pretty broad grasp of various technologies. So.
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DUNNING: Yeah.
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Um, my pal Steve is a
horse-racing fanatic and he asked me if I
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thought there was any way
that using, y'know, current technology that I could play
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him some sort of feed from
the track so that, y'know when they parade the horses around?
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FENNE: Yeah.
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DUNNING: He's a real big
believer in that that sort of thing is a big indicator
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of like, how the horse
is gonna do in the race.
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FENNE: Yeah.
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DUNNING: Anyway, because
there wasn't quite that kind of thing,
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I began fooling around and.
Can I show you this?
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FENNE: Sure.
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DUNNING: Just a moment.
Let's see here. There we go.
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FENNE: I do have a 3 p.m.
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DUNNING: Yeah,
just be one second. Ok.
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[dial up sound]
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just loading.
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Great. Ok, so
this is a really rough beta version. Log in.
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FENNE: Wait.
What am I seeing there?
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DUNNING: That's a
download of the video feed.
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FENNE: That is impressive.
That's a really good picture.
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DUNNING: Cool, huh?
I mean, I still have a lot more to figure out
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because it's not even
a thing yet, but uh.
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FENNE: Wait, so. Could
you conceivably do this live?
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Like a live TV broadcast?
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DUNNING: Well, yeah, that's
the idea, eventually.
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Or at least nearly live,
if not simultaneous.
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CUBAN: In order to stream live
video, you had to show it as a little post-it stamp size.
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You'd be watching literally,
it'd be like that.
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It was tiny.
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But if you were able to
do full-screen almost TV quality video,
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for a standard dial-up modem,
that would've been somethin'!
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FENNE: Yes, Robert,
I think you may have the very beginnings
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of something
quite promising.
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Alright, hey, look at it.
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See that? See it?
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Yee shall be as of the
light of the mornin', when the sun rises.
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Yes! Look. I might
be able to help you.
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DUNNING: Really?
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FENNE: Yeah.
I've been working a little in this arena myself.
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DUNNING: In what capacity?
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FENNE: I'm a big
picture kinda guy.
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I mean, I understand most
of the nuts-and-bolts, but frankly,
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I get a little bored
with 'em after a while.
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DUNNING: I hear you.
It sure can be a grind.
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FENNE: But I may
be able to provide some seed money and my staff,
447
00:24:51,533 --> 00:24:55,015
if you're interested in
a creative partnership.
448
00:24:55,929 --> 00:24:58,453
DUNNING: Wow.
449
00:25:00,237 --> 00:25:03,719
FENNE: Because I look at
you and I see something, something I recognize,
450
00:25:03,763 --> 00:25:07,506
a hunger or a desire
to prove yourself.
451
00:25:09,812 --> 00:25:13,033
DUNNING: Haha.
You got me.
452
00:25:18,691 --> 00:25:21,520
ANDREESSEN: We have a
wide range of competitors entering this space,
453
00:25:21,563 --> 00:25:23,826
competing with just
one part of what we do.
454
00:25:23,870 --> 00:25:26,742
The Microsoft browser
is basically what we did with Mosaic.
455
00:25:26,786 --> 00:25:29,702
And I'm glad to see
they've caught up to what we did two years ago.
456
00:25:34,968 --> 00:25:37,013
RULON-MILLER: That's good PR.
457
00:25:37,057 --> 00:25:40,539
SIINO: Marc's cockiness
was never something I particularly felt good about.
458
00:25:41,278 --> 00:25:44,934
And I think that article
is one of those that just felt to me like waving
459
00:25:44,978 --> 00:25:47,633
a red flag
in front of a bull.
460
00:25:47,676 --> 00:25:49,852
REPORTER: So you
don't see them as a threat?
461
00:25:49,896 --> 00:25:51,854
"The Evil Empire?"
462
00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:53,900
ANDREESSEN: I don't see it
as a matter of good or evil.
463
00:25:53,943 --> 00:25:56,511
Microsoft is a competitor,
and a smart one.
464
00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:58,861
And Jim and I just
think it's important to point out what Microsoft
465
00:25:58,905 --> 00:26:00,950
is doing in various areas,
466
00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:03,997
since they are very
good at using FUD to attempt to paralyze the market.
467
00:26:04,824 --> 00:26:06,521
REPORTER: FUD?
468
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,828
ANDREESSEN: Fear,
Uncertainty and Doubt.
469
00:26:14,224 --> 00:26:16,183
SIINO: Marc's comments
were never planned.
470
00:26:16,226 --> 00:26:19,360
That's stuff again I wish
I could've controlled better.
471
00:26:19,403 --> 00:26:21,318
BARKSDALE: It wasn't
a nice comment.
472
00:26:21,362 --> 00:26:23,407
And it irritated him.
473
00:26:23,451 --> 00:26:25,105
CLARK: I don't think
it was all that bad.
474
00:26:25,148 --> 00:26:28,064
BARKSDALE: Don't
tease your competitor,
475
00:26:28,108 --> 00:26:33,592
particularly one as big and
well-financed as Microsoft.
476
00:26:34,462 --> 00:26:36,856
REARDON: We were a very
proud culture and we were a very aggressive culture
477
00:26:36,899 --> 00:26:41,251
and they were uh, you know,
rattling the cage as it were.
478
00:26:42,165 --> 00:26:46,996
Marc started to get a lot
more strident and aggressive and ad-hominum in his attacks,
479
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,001
that it wasn't like we were
wounded by them, we were sort of just like, whoa, ok,
480
00:26:52,045 --> 00:26:55,396
you know, batter
up, let's go, uh.
481
00:26:55,831 --> 00:26:58,051
I will say we went a
bit further than Marc did.
482
00:26:58,094 --> 00:27:02,098
We actually printed his quotes
and put them on the wall inside of the building to make
483
00:27:02,142 --> 00:27:04,797
sure that everybody walking
in the door knew what Marc was saying about us.
484
00:27:05,885 --> 00:27:10,193
CLARK: They were gonna come
after us anyway, they started in 1994, the battle was on,
485
00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:15,242
the war was gonna
happen no matter what and we had to have,
486
00:27:15,285 --> 00:27:17,679
bring some levity
to the situation.
487
00:27:17,723 --> 00:27:20,421
Without that you
just feel crushed.
488
00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:23,685
BARKSDALE: They
took it too serious.
489
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:32,955
FENNE: Here's the deal;
the Internet is here to stay.
490
00:27:32,999 --> 00:27:35,349
LARRY: And that's
a good thing?
491
00:27:36,045 --> 00:27:39,179
FENNE: Oh my dear friend,
yes, that is a good thing.
492
00:27:39,222 --> 00:27:41,529
Y'all ever hear of Netscape?
493
00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:45,054
SHEILA: I've heard of it,
but I have no idea what it does.
494
00:27:45,098 --> 00:27:48,231
FENNE: Exactly! I would argue
that even Netscape doesn't quite know what it does,
495
00:27:48,275 --> 00:27:50,320
so don't feel too
badly about it.
496
00:27:50,364 --> 00:27:52,192
What is your name again?
497
00:27:52,235 --> 00:27:53,584
SHEILA: Sheila.
498
00:27:53,628 --> 00:27:55,717
FENNE: Don't feel too
badly about it, Sheila.
499
00:27:55,761 --> 00:27:58,198
They haven't come close
to making a profit.
500
00:27:58,241 --> 00:28:01,897
They're valued today
at over $3 billion.
501
00:28:01,941 --> 00:28:03,986
SHEILA: Hah!
502
00:28:04,030 --> 00:28:06,119
FENNE: And, in my
less-than-humble opinion, what I'm doing down here in your
503
00:28:06,162 --> 00:28:09,992
little city is gonna blow the
tops right off of the Netscapes and AOLs of the world.
504
00:28:10,384 --> 00:28:12,865
GOODIN: San Juan Capistrano,
it's kinda the perfect place,
505
00:28:12,908 --> 00:28:15,302
for him it's god an
affluent population.
506
00:28:15,345 --> 00:28:21,395
Many of them had, you
know, a spare $150,000 to invest and he starts
507
00:28:21,438 --> 00:28:26,095
to convince them that he's
got some really good ideas, that he could make a lot of
508
00:28:26,139 --> 00:28:29,838
money from and you know,
people who invest in him could make a lot of money too.
509
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:32,754
LARRY: What exactly are you
doing in our little city?
510
00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:35,061
FENNE: Well, I could
tell ya, Larry.
511
00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:38,891
But then I'd have
to kill you!
512
00:28:43,852 --> 00:28:46,202
No.
513
00:28:47,421 --> 00:28:52,295
But seriously, it's like the
Wild West, and I just laid claim to a serious gold mine.
514
00:28:53,035 --> 00:28:55,037
LARRY: So? You gonna
let us get a piece?
515
00:28:55,081 --> 00:28:58,475
FENNE: There may be a
limited number of openings for discerning investors.
516
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,565
But this is
cutting edge stuff.
517
00:29:01,609 --> 00:29:04,090
Very hard to explain
in a prospectus.
518
00:29:04,133 --> 00:29:06,527
It's a leap of faith.
519
00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:09,443
You know that saying
in the Bible, "Oh ye of little faith?"
520
00:29:09,486 --> 00:29:13,186
SHEILA: I mean, I know it,
but I don't know it know it.
521
00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:16,755
FENNE: When Jesus did his
walking on the water thing, y'all remember that, don't ya?
522
00:29:16,885 --> 00:29:19,801
Matthew 14:28?
523
00:29:20,323 --> 00:29:24,023
So Jesus he's walking on
the water, and Peter's right there by his side
524
00:29:24,066 --> 00:29:29,985
and then Peter says, "Lord,
if it is you, command me to come unto You on the water."
525
00:29:30,681 --> 00:29:33,336
And Jesus said to
Peter, he said, "Come."
526
00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:37,993
And lo and behold, when
Peter turned his attention to Jesus, he walks on the water!
527
00:29:38,341 --> 00:29:39,647
Just like the Lord!
528
00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:41,562
And he's like, "Oh my God!
What the...?"
529
00:29:41,605 --> 00:29:44,260
And the second he thinks about
it, he falls in the water.
530
00:29:44,304 --> 00:29:49,831
And Jesus says, "Peter,
Oh ye of little faith, why do you doubt?"
531
00:29:52,355 --> 00:29:55,968
It isn't that Peter didn't
believe, it's that he didn't have the duration of faith.
532
00:29:56,751 --> 00:29:59,406
He was trying to hold
onto two things at once.
533
00:29:59,449 --> 00:30:02,235
This is, and this can't be.
534
00:30:02,278 --> 00:30:05,412
And the weight
of that sunk him.
535
00:30:07,414 --> 00:30:13,594
I've been Peter before,
but right now I'm on this incredible ride,
536
00:30:14,769 --> 00:30:17,467
where I know that this
"World Wide Web" stuff
537
00:30:17,511 --> 00:30:20,122
is exactly where the
Lord wants me to be,
538
00:30:20,166 --> 00:30:23,386
and where I am going
to be successful beyond my wildest dreams.
539
00:30:23,865 --> 00:30:26,737
One thought, one faith.
540
00:30:26,781 --> 00:30:29,871
Yes is yes.
541
00:30:31,699 --> 00:30:34,006
LARRY: Well, I don't
want to bring "filthy lucre" into the mix,
542
00:30:34,049 --> 00:30:37,748
but I would love to be part
of your endeavor, Michael.
543
00:30:40,926 --> 00:30:44,364
SHEILA: Me too.
FENNE: To the Internet.
544
00:30:45,452 --> 00:30:48,629
♪ A scrub is a
guy that thinks he's fly ♪
545
00:30:48,672 --> 00:30:52,502
♪ And is also known
as a busta ♪
546
00:30:53,199 --> 00:30:55,549
♪ Always talkin'
about what he wants ♪♪
547
00:30:55,592 --> 00:30:59,118
GOODIN: San Jan is close
enough to Los Angeles that they could get executives
548
00:30:59,161 --> 00:31:03,513
and artists,
actors, musicians, other types of people,
549
00:31:03,557 --> 00:31:05,515
they could cut deals with.
550
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:09,824
It was far enough away
that it seemed to escape a lot of careful scrutiny.
551
00:31:10,781 --> 00:31:13,959
♪ No, I don't
want no scrub ♪
552
00:31:14,002 --> 00:31:17,440
♪ A scrub is a guy that
can't get no love from me ♪♪
553
00:31:20,704 --> 00:31:25,971
GOODIN: At the time
you had this kind of jerky type of video stream that
554
00:31:26,014 --> 00:31:30,279
was so common in,
you know, the mid-1990s.
555
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,764
FENNE: Wait, this
is incredible. Amazing.
556
00:31:36,807 --> 00:31:38,374
DUNNING: That's pretty
great, isn't it?
557
00:31:38,418 --> 00:31:40,072
FENNE: Robert, you're a
genius, an actual genius.
558
00:31:40,115 --> 00:31:41,769
This is it.
559
00:31:41,812 --> 00:31:44,467
This is what I've been seeing
in my visions, thank you.
560
00:31:44,511 --> 00:31:46,252
So explain it to me again,
561
00:31:46,295 --> 00:31:48,254
because I don't think
I quite understand what you're talking about.
562
00:31:48,297 --> 00:31:50,473
DUNNING: Okay.
563
00:31:50,517 --> 00:31:53,041
Well, I took a bunch of
existing technology and sorta Frankensteined it together.
564
00:31:53,085 --> 00:31:55,087
FENNE: Frankensteined.
565
00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:58,220
DUNNING: Again, it's
not my tech, but I did combine it in a new way,
566
00:31:58,264 --> 00:32:03,269
and now what I have is,
well, I think it's what a lot of people have been trying
567
00:32:03,312 --> 00:32:05,445
to crack for a
pretty long time.
568
00:32:05,488 --> 00:32:08,839
I'm able to compress and
uncompress video to play back and with a bit of tweaking
569
00:32:08,883 --> 00:32:11,103
I think it'll be pretty
good to broadcast live.
570
00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:14,845
FENNE: Live. Hey, lookit.
I got goosebumps. This is it!
571
00:32:14,889 --> 00:32:17,109
We are going to be
very, very wealthy men.
572
00:32:17,152 --> 00:32:18,806
And very famous men.
573
00:32:18,849 --> 00:32:21,548
And very celebrated,
and beloved men.
574
00:32:21,591 --> 00:32:24,594
DUNNING: Well, I don't
really want all that, I just wanna pay off my mortgage,
575
00:32:24,638 --> 00:32:26,205
get braces on my daughter.
576
00:32:26,248 --> 00:32:27,728
FENNE: You're gonna pay
your mortgage off in cash.
577
00:32:27,771 --> 00:32:30,209
And you're gonna give your
daughter solid gold braces.
578
00:32:30,513 --> 00:32:31,993
DUNNING: Again, not really.
579
00:32:32,037 --> 00:32:34,735
FENNE: Hey! Solid gold.
DUNNING: Ok.
580
00:32:36,911 --> 00:32:41,220
CUBAN: With live streaming,
in order to make it fit into a small enough
581
00:32:41,263 --> 00:32:44,440
amount of bandwidth to
put on a modem back then,
582
00:32:44,484 --> 00:32:47,400
you had to use a very
powerful codec to compress it.
583
00:32:47,443 --> 00:32:51,795
You can use mpeg
but more likely you were using software from companies called
584
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,450
Real Networks or Microsoft.
585
00:32:54,581 --> 00:32:58,715
GOODIN: Robert Dunning takes a
bunch of off-the-shelf hardware and software components,
586
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:02,415
puts them together
in a way that really um,
587
00:33:02,458 --> 00:33:04,852
produces some pretty
stunning results.
588
00:33:04,895 --> 00:33:08,508
It looks pretty good and
Digital Motion is founded.
589
00:33:14,427 --> 00:33:18,083
[cheers, celebration].
590
00:33:19,214 --> 00:33:22,043
FENNE: Here you go, here you go.
591
00:33:22,087 --> 00:33:24,611
-Yeah! Alright. Cheers.
592
00:33:24,654 --> 00:33:26,613
KRIZELMAN: So for
sure one of the very first people we went to
593
00:33:26,656 --> 00:33:28,963
was a guy
named Bob Halperin.
594
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:34,577
I had met him through a common
friend, and I called him up and I said, I'd love to meet.
595
00:33:34,621 --> 00:33:37,319
PATERNOT: He had been one
of the founders of RayCam, you know this chemical
596
00:33:37,363 --> 00:33:39,669
and physical engineering.
597
00:33:39,713 --> 00:33:44,196
Made a fortune, invested
in Intel, made a fortune, joined this venture capital firm
598
00:33:44,239 --> 00:33:48,200
and it was basically this
old guy whose job it was to go and look for investments.
599
00:33:48,722 --> 00:33:51,464
And that was my first
discovery of what venture capital was.
600
00:33:52,813 --> 00:33:55,033
KRIZELMAN: Netscape.
PATERNOT: Netscape.
601
00:33:55,076 --> 00:33:57,731
HALPERIN: Uh huh? Okay,
Netscape. What about em?
602
00:33:59,472 --> 00:34:04,085
KRIZELMAN: Um. Well,
I'm sure you've been following their IPO.
603
00:34:04,129 --> 00:34:05,739
HALPERIN: Me and
about the whole world.
604
00:34:05,782 --> 00:34:08,176
What about Netscape?
605
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:16,097
KRIZELMAN:
We didn't understand at all was required,
606
00:34:16,141 --> 00:34:19,927
like, what was expected
when you went to present,
607
00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:22,147
and in some ways
that helped us,
608
00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:25,628
we didn't know the rules of
the game at all, and so we sort of stumbled our way in.
609
00:34:26,673 --> 00:34:29,502
PATERNOT: Well, like Netscape,
um, we are web-based.
610
00:34:29,545 --> 00:34:32,113
And like Netscape,
there's nothing quite like us.
611
00:34:32,157 --> 00:34:34,115
But we're better.
612
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,595
And we're gonna be bigger.
613
00:34:35,638 --> 00:34:37,249
Imagine that you are a bowler.
614
00:34:37,292 --> 00:34:38,641
Or a punk rocker.
615
00:34:38,685 --> 00:34:40,600
KRIZELMAN: Or you know
possibly a golfer.
616
00:34:40,643 --> 00:34:42,732
PATERNOT: Or a pastry
chef, or a new mom.
617
00:34:42,776 --> 00:34:44,865
HALPERIN: Okay, I'm
a new mom who bowls.
618
00:34:44,908 --> 00:34:46,606
PATERNOT: Good.
Congratulations.
619
00:34:46,649 --> 00:34:48,173
HALPERIN: Thank you very much!
620
00:34:48,216 --> 00:34:50,479
PATERNOT: Where do you meet
other new moms who bowl?
621
00:34:50,523 --> 00:34:53,003
HALPERIN: I don't know,
the beauty parlor?
622
00:34:53,047 --> 00:34:55,528
PATERNOT: Well,
what are the odds you find that other new mom
623
00:34:55,571 --> 00:34:58,052
who also bowls
a decent game?
624
00:34:58,183 --> 00:35:00,359
KRIZELMAN: Bob, you
need to join TheGlobe.com.
625
00:35:00,402 --> 00:35:02,448
PATERNOT: Or a group to
promote your business.
626
00:35:02,491 --> 00:35:04,537
Or a way to share plans
with your family. Or photos.
627
00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:06,234
KRIZELMAN: Or games you
can play with your friends.
628
00:35:06,278 --> 00:35:08,149
PATERNOT: It's
an entire network.
629
00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:12,240
But instead of a business
formal-type network, it's a social network.
630
00:35:13,459 --> 00:35:15,722
People will want to
log on, I guarantee.
631
00:35:15,765 --> 00:35:18,028
KRIZELMAN: It's
very addictive.
632
00:35:18,072 --> 00:35:23,817
PATERNOT: What most investors
at the time didn't see was the Internet for what it was,
633
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:28,517
a chat room and a chat
experience, they could wrap their heads around a little bit,
634
00:35:28,865 --> 00:35:32,347
even though, you know,
none of them chatted, and so if you couldn't get your mind
635
00:35:32,391 --> 00:35:35,263
around that whole
thing and how you could live in the Internet,
636
00:35:35,307 --> 00:35:38,788
there was no point in trying
to convince those investors.
637
00:35:39,311 --> 00:35:41,269
Ok, so what we have
in front of you.
638
00:35:41,313 --> 00:35:43,663
KRIZELMAN: Oh uh uh, these
are our models for scaling and capitalization.
639
00:35:43,706 --> 00:35:46,579
HALPERIN: Okay, okay, okay!
I love the energy.
640
00:35:46,622 --> 00:35:49,190
I love the fact that
you're both true believers.
641
00:35:49,234 --> 00:35:51,453
PATERNOT: We are.
KRIZELMAN: Thank you.
642
00:35:51,497 --> 00:35:54,500
HALPERIN: But for VCs to be
interested, you're gonna have to scale at 5 to 10 times
643
00:35:54,543 --> 00:35:57,329
the growth rate
you're showing here.
644
00:36:03,596 --> 00:36:06,338
PATERNOT: Look, sir,
this is a new world.
645
00:36:06,381 --> 00:36:09,428
This is day one of an
entirely new world.
646
00:36:09,471 --> 00:36:11,778
I can see down the
road and the Internet...
647
00:36:11,821 --> 00:36:14,172
HALPERIN: You're
not hearing me, son.
648
00:36:15,434 --> 00:36:18,306
Let a man say, "Yes,"
for the love of Pete.
649
00:36:21,266 --> 00:36:23,006
I'm in.
650
00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:28,273
KRIZELMAN: How far
do you think 100K is going to stretch?
651
00:36:28,316 --> 00:36:30,579
A month? Two?
652
00:36:30,623 --> 00:36:33,234
PATERNOT: Can we just enjoy
the moment before we go back to knocking on doors tomorrow?
653
00:36:33,278 --> 00:36:34,540
Please. Can
we please do that?
654
00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:36,411
KRIZELMAN: Yes.
655
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,677
PATERNOT: Boys, count me in.
Blew our minds away.
656
00:36:41,982 --> 00:36:44,898
KRIZELMAN: He was
extremely supportive and he was a businessman
657
00:36:44,941 --> 00:36:47,509
so I got tons of advice
about how to run the company.
658
00:36:47,553 --> 00:36:51,426
PATERNOT: So I'm sure Todd
and I both got drunk uh on the flight back to New York.
659
00:36:55,909 --> 00:36:57,998
-You are the man, Dunning.
660
00:36:58,041 --> 00:37:01,480
Every company I've
talked to is on fire about your tech. It's.
661
00:37:01,523 --> 00:37:03,395
DUNNING: Thanks.
662
00:37:05,092 --> 00:37:07,137
HAUSWIRTH: Michael, we're
all good on the legal side?
663
00:37:07,181 --> 00:37:08,922
Registrations and such?
664
00:37:08,965 --> 00:37:11,316
FENNE: Yeah.
Whatever the "genius" says.
665
00:37:11,751 --> 00:37:13,840
HAUSWIRTH: That he is.
666
00:37:13,883 --> 00:37:16,930
DUNNING: Ok, alright.
Watch this. Let's see.
667
00:37:22,065 --> 00:37:24,242
HAUSWIRTH: What, seriously?
668
00:37:24,285 --> 00:37:26,853
DUNNING: Yeah, just figured
that one out yesterday.
669
00:37:26,896 --> 00:37:28,594
That's a new one.
670
00:37:28,637 --> 00:37:30,857
PATERNOT: Bob wrote us
our first $100,000 check
671
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:32,946
and then he was
gonna make introductions.
672
00:37:35,949 --> 00:37:38,908
♪ It's the ninth ♪
673
00:37:38,952 --> 00:37:41,171
♪ We gotta put
in all the work ♪
674
00:37:41,215 --> 00:37:43,043
♪ Before we rise
above the dirt ♪
675
00:37:43,086 --> 00:37:44,871
♪ It's the ninth ♪
676
00:37:46,786 --> 00:37:49,745
♪ It's the ninth ♪
677
00:37:49,789 --> 00:37:53,053
♪ If it ain't easy that's
why I never took a test ♪♪
678
00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:57,275
PATERNOT: We heard there
was a motto at Netscape which the CEO hyped a term
679
00:37:57,318 --> 00:38:01,409
he coined called
GBF, Get Big Fast, that's all that matters, GBF.
680
00:38:02,236 --> 00:38:06,066
CLARK: If you can get big
then it's harder for someone else to take you down.
681
00:38:06,545 --> 00:38:08,024
♪ No ma'am ♪
682
00:38:08,068 --> 00:38:10,070
♪ Thank you ma'am
anything you want girl I got ♪
683
00:38:10,113 --> 00:38:11,767
♪ It's the ninth ♪
684
00:38:11,811 --> 00:38:15,031
♪ That's the way it was
but everything comes around ♪
685
00:38:15,858 --> 00:38:18,513
♪ You can't have
day without night ♪♪
686
00:38:18,818 --> 00:38:21,647
PATERNOT: Luckily we were
finding one in a 100, yes, here's 100 grand,
687
00:38:21,690 --> 00:38:25,172
here's 100 grand, and you
know, this was allowing us to claw our way up,
688
00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:28,349
throw in more servers,
get a bigger space, hire a few more people
689
00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:30,525
and it was this
iterative process of hurrying up, hurrying up.
690
00:38:31,874 --> 00:38:35,356
Meanwhile our
users were signing up like crazy, I mean,
691
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,794
we just couldn't
add enough chat rooms to fit everybody in.
692
00:38:38,838 --> 00:38:42,711
KRIZELMAN: We were
growing by hundreds of percents every few months.
693
00:38:42,755 --> 00:38:46,411
PATERNOT: And we were now
on this mission to like relocate to New York City.
694
00:38:48,413 --> 00:38:51,677
And so within a few months
I found an office space, it was just a completely
695
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:56,812
gross empty traditional
New York loft space, but New York is New York.
696
00:38:56,856 --> 00:38:59,249
We're gonna go do it our
way on the East Coast.
697
00:38:59,293 --> 00:39:01,339
That was our place, that's
where we'd make our mark.
698
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:09,999
GOODIN: High-quality
Internet streaming had major, major potential to, you know,
699
00:39:10,043 --> 00:39:12,741
mint uh, you know,
millionaires if not billionaires,
700
00:39:12,785 --> 00:39:15,004
you know largely overnight.
701
00:39:15,048 --> 00:39:20,096
PAINE: Once Netscape went
public and made all that crazy money and people wanted in.
702
00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:25,885
Every level of uh, truth
and fantasy existing at the same time.
703
00:39:26,233 --> 00:39:31,107
There was legitimate
money being raised, there was uh, you know,
704
00:39:31,151 --> 00:39:34,415
big clients that wanna get
to the game and then there were the con artists.
705
00:39:37,244 --> 00:39:39,594
FENNE: Whoo!
706
00:39:40,116 --> 00:39:43,163
DUNNING: Michael. What
the hell is going on?
707
00:39:43,206 --> 00:39:45,557
You haven't answered a single
call or been around in a week.
708
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,211
FENNE: Yeah, well,
I'm trying to deal with this bankruptcy stuff so that you
709
00:39:48,255 --> 00:39:50,388
and Chuck don't get arrested.
710
00:39:50,431 --> 00:39:53,086
DUNNING: Arrested? What?
711
00:39:53,129 --> 00:39:54,696
FENNE: We're out of
money, Robert, you get it?
712
00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:56,176
The deals aren't coming
through fast enough.
713
00:39:56,219 --> 00:39:57,699
So we're done.
714
00:39:57,743 --> 00:39:59,222
I need to fold the company
or, y'know, my ass is grass.
715
00:39:59,266 --> 00:40:00,746
DUNNING: But what about
all the investments?
716
00:40:00,789 --> 00:40:02,095
FENNE: Right now I just
wanna make sure y'all are okay
717
00:40:02,138 --> 00:40:03,749
and don't get in
trouble for all this debt.
718
00:40:03,792 --> 00:40:05,794
DUNNING: You're
folding the company?
719
00:40:05,838 --> 00:40:08,144
FENNE: Hey, don't thank
me until I'm sure we're outta the woods. Alright?
720
00:40:08,188 --> 00:40:09,842
DUNNING: I'm certainly
not thanking you.
721
00:40:09,885 --> 00:40:12,148
Michael, what about
the technology I created?
722
00:40:12,192 --> 00:40:15,325
FENNE: Whoa, wow.
So, you paid to develop it?
723
00:40:15,369 --> 00:40:17,458
DUNNING: Well, obviously not.
724
00:40:17,502 --> 00:40:18,807
FENNE: You lived in your
car imagining how you were going to build this company?
725
00:40:18,851 --> 00:40:20,418
Because I could have
sworn that was me.
726
00:40:20,461 --> 00:40:22,245
DUNNING: No, but I.
727
00:40:22,289 --> 00:40:24,030
FENNE: "But-but-but."
Robert, you know what, you need to grow up.
728
00:40:24,073 --> 00:40:26,336
I tried to help you,
I tried to help Chuck,
729
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:29,078
I tried to build this company
around my special vision.
730
00:40:29,122 --> 00:40:30,558
DUNNING: What
about the patents?
731
00:40:30,602 --> 00:40:32,908
Please tell me you
got the patents?
732
00:40:32,952 --> 00:40:36,651
FENNE: What? You think I had
the time, the money and legal help to get the patents done?
733
00:40:37,696 --> 00:40:39,872
What do you think I'm some
kind of billionaire octopus?
734
00:40:39,915 --> 00:40:41,439
DUNNING: What are
you talking about?
735
00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:44,485
FENNE: Hey, I am trying
to keep you a free man.
736
00:40:44,529 --> 00:40:47,619
I'm trying to take
care of you here.
737
00:40:47,662 --> 00:40:49,316
Do you get that?
738
00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:51,884
DUNNING: No, this makes
absolutely no sense.
739
00:40:51,927 --> 00:40:53,973
I have no idea what
you're talking about.
740
00:40:54,016 --> 00:40:55,496
FENNE: This is complicated
stuff, it's CEO stuff, it's above your pay grade.
741
00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:57,019
DUNNING: Michael,
you can't just.
742
00:40:57,063 --> 00:40:59,021
FENNE: I can't
just what, Robert?
743
00:40:59,065 --> 00:41:00,501
DUNNING: You can't just
close up shop without consulting your partners.
744
00:41:00,545 --> 00:41:02,547
FENNE: Trust me. I am on
this like white on rice.
745
00:41:02,590 --> 00:41:04,157
I got it covered.
746
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,638
And last time I checked you're
an employee, not a partner.
747
00:41:07,116 --> 00:41:09,249
DUNNING: An employee
who hasn't been paid.
748
00:41:09,292 --> 00:41:10,685
FENNE: Beside I've got
something of my own brewing as well, so I gotta get going.
749
00:41:10,729 --> 00:41:11,991
DUNNING: Michael!
750
00:41:12,034 --> 00:41:14,254
FENNE: Hey, so I will
be in touch. Alright?
751
00:41:16,822 --> 00:41:19,738
Hey! Hey! Keep the faith.
752
00:41:19,781 --> 00:41:21,783
DUNNING: Son of a bitch.
Michael!
753
00:41:27,223 --> 00:41:29,443
Dammit!
754
00:41:35,318 --> 00:41:39,279
FENNE: Hi, it's David.
David Kim Stanley.
755
00:41:40,367 --> 00:41:42,456
I know, I know,
just listen to me.
756
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:46,460
Hey, just listen, because
this may be the last time you ever hear from me, ok?
757
00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:51,944
GOODIN: This guy who has been
calling himself Michael Fenne is really somebody named
758
00:41:51,987 --> 00:41:55,600
David Kim Stanley who is
a fugitive of the law.
759
00:41:56,470 --> 00:42:00,518
FENNE: Hi. Michael Fenne.
I'm Michael Fenne.
760
00:42:02,128 --> 00:42:03,999
I'm Mike Fenne,
what a pleasure.
761
00:42:04,043 --> 00:42:05,914
David Kim Stanley.
762
00:42:05,958 --> 00:42:09,222
GOODIN: David Kim Stanley
was the son and the grandson of preachers
763
00:42:09,265 --> 00:42:11,311
in Wise County, Virginia.
764
00:42:11,354 --> 00:42:17,578
At some point he began
holding himself out as an investor who could
765
00:42:17,622 --> 00:42:20,581
help people in his town
invest their money for
766
00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:23,628
retirement and according
to court records,
767
00:42:23,671 --> 00:42:28,458
he received somewhere in
the neighborhood of about $1.25 million
768
00:42:28,502 --> 00:42:32,158
and had trouble paying
almost all of it off.
769
00:42:32,724 --> 00:42:36,379
He is sentenced
to decades in jail.
770
00:42:37,467 --> 00:42:41,297
FENNE: Name deleted says
that warrant is only for failure to appear.
771
00:42:41,341 --> 00:42:43,735
They don't get the Feds
in on a small-timer like me.
772
00:42:43,778 --> 00:42:47,608
So a few more months
of caution, surgery, and daily intercessory prayer,
773
00:42:47,652 --> 00:42:49,915
and I will have
completed my gauntlet.
774
00:42:49,958 --> 00:42:54,484
You could have been with me,
we could have been together, free to come and visit and
775
00:42:54,528 --> 00:42:57,139
communicate by the
time the baby is born.
776
00:42:57,183 --> 00:43:00,055
But you had no real love
for me, no true faith in me.
777
00:43:00,099 --> 00:43:03,755
It has come off, so far,
exactly like I said it would.
778
00:43:03,798 --> 00:43:08,324
It has always been, and always
will be, a mistake to lose faith and underestimate me.
779
00:43:09,543 --> 00:43:13,242
God has blessed me
with a unique ability to defy reality.
780
00:43:14,113 --> 00:43:16,811
And if I die tomorrow,
that would still be true.
781
00:43:20,685 --> 00:43:24,253
PATERNOT: We had about 12
to 15 employees working from Ithaca at that time,
782
00:43:24,297 --> 00:43:26,647
we had the talk with the rest
of our team, and said guys,
783
00:43:26,691 --> 00:43:29,781
we need to go
into a bigger pond now, who's coming with us?
784
00:43:32,348 --> 00:43:33,741
-Punch it!
785
00:43:33,785 --> 00:43:35,482
PHILIP: It's an Econoline
van, Terry. This is it.
786
00:43:35,525 --> 00:43:36,918
-We're totally gonna crash.
-We're not going to crash.
787
00:43:36,962 --> 00:43:38,093
[yelling].
788
00:43:38,137 --> 00:43:39,138
[bleep].
789
00:43:39,181 --> 00:43:40,269
-Dammit!
790
00:43:40,313 --> 00:43:41,967
PHILIP: Nice navigating, Terry.
-Sorry!
791
00:43:42,010 --> 00:43:42,968
[horn].
792
00:43:43,011 --> 00:43:44,056
-Get out of the way!
793
00:43:44,099 --> 00:43:46,754
[screaming].
794
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,851
-Let's go, let's go!
Go, go, go, go!
795
00:43:57,852 --> 00:44:00,463
-Two, three, five.
Plug them in.
796
00:44:01,203 --> 00:44:04,511
-Right here, right here.
-Nope, nope, nope. Hold up.
797
00:44:07,166 --> 00:44:10,604
PATERNOT: By the beginning
of '97 we were fully relocated to New York City
798
00:44:10,648 --> 00:44:13,651
and the whole team could
not have been more excited.
799
00:44:16,392 --> 00:44:17,524
-We're up!
800
00:44:17,567 --> 00:44:20,222
[cheers].
801
00:44:21,093 --> 00:44:23,356
♪ I got three four gallons
of Hennessey I got♪
802
00:44:23,399 --> 00:44:29,710
[inaudible rapping].
803
00:44:38,110 --> 00:44:41,853
-Oh, [bleep].
-What happened?
804
00:44:42,854 --> 00:44:45,726
-Ok, what the
[bleep]'s happened?
805
00:44:46,118 --> 00:44:48,294
REPORTER [over TV]: Hundreds
of analysts and reporters showed up and heard Microsoft
806
00:44:48,337 --> 00:44:51,906
chairman Bill Gates admit
Internet competitors have outflanked his company.
807
00:44:52,515 --> 00:44:56,171
REPORTER [over TV]: Until now
the software giant Microsoft has surprisingly paid little
808
00:44:56,215 --> 00:44:57,912
attention to the Internet.
809
00:44:57,956 --> 00:45:00,349
That changed today.
810
00:45:00,393 --> 00:45:02,700
REPORTER [over TV]: He said
Microsoft will try to compete vigorously with Netscape in
811
00:45:02,743 --> 00:45:04,702
the Internet browser market.
812
00:45:04,745 --> 00:45:06,747
GATES: Well good morning.
813
00:45:14,363 --> 00:45:17,889
I was realizing this
morning that December the 7th is kind of a famous day.
814
00:45:17,932 --> 00:45:20,369
54 years ago
or something.
815
00:45:20,413 --> 00:45:23,982
And I was trying to think
if there was any parallel to what was going on here.
816
00:45:24,939 --> 00:45:27,159
And I really
couldn't come up with any.
817
00:45:27,202 --> 00:45:31,032
The only connection I could
think of at all was that probably the most intelligent
818
00:45:31,076 --> 00:45:36,690
comment that was made
wasn't made on Wall Street, or by any type of analyst;
819
00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:40,476
it was actually
Admiral Yamamoto.
820
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,917
CLARK: It actually Admiral
Yamamoto who observed that he feared they had awakened
821
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,442
a sleeping giant.
822
00:45:50,835 --> 00:45:53,620
GATES: A sleeping giant.
823
00:45:54,752 --> 00:45:58,581
BARKSDALE: So that makes
Netscape Imperial Japan?
824
00:45:58,843 --> 00:46:02,977
CLARK: If it hadn't been
for us you could argue that Microsoft would've waited
825
00:46:03,021 --> 00:46:06,546
another 2 or 3 years
to get around to doing something with a browser.
826
00:46:06,589 --> 00:46:11,377
When we showed that
it was an explosive market, Microsoft was very worried.
827
00:46:12,073 --> 00:46:15,598
BARKSDALE: Once the giant
woke up or whatever, they wanted to own it.
828
00:46:15,642 --> 00:46:17,862
And they talked about it.
829
00:46:17,905 --> 00:46:21,953
REARDON: We decided like we
want to have the world's most successful web browser on
830
00:46:21,996 --> 00:46:24,216
December 7th, 1995.
831
00:46:24,259 --> 00:46:29,917
We want this to be
the main way, the main on ramp for humanity for how
832
00:46:29,961 --> 00:46:34,922
they get on the web, our
tool set, our APIs, uh, our developer infrastructure.
833
00:46:35,836 --> 00:46:39,318
BARKSDALE: In private,
we were all very worried.
834
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,410
ANDREESSEN: I have work to do.
835
00:46:44,453 --> 00:46:47,674
BARKSDALE: Work fast, Yamamoto.
They're gunning for you.
836
00:46:54,855 --> 00:46:59,120
GATES: Fix my hand.
Thanks, Johnny. Ahem.
837
00:46:59,729 --> 00:47:01,601
Can you hear me? Good?
838
00:47:01,644 --> 00:47:04,952
Yeah, 'kay.
Well. Good morning.
839
00:47:06,171 --> 00:47:09,391
I was realizing this, I was
realizing, bleh-bleh-bleh.
840
00:47:09,435 --> 00:47:10,784
We'll try that again.
841
00:47:10,828 --> 00:47:12,525
Well good morning.
842
00:47:12,568 --> 00:47:15,789
This eh, ahem.
One more time.
843
00:47:20,533 --> 00:47:21,751
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