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In the criminal justice
system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet
equally important groups...
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the police
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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No!
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No-oo!
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No-oo!
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So he missed a lay
up at the buzzer. So what?
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It just ticks me off.
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Some pituitary freak
makes more in 40 minutes
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than I make all year.
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Who told you life was fair?
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Excuse us, sir.
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Aw, another kid.
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Mother of God.
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How am I going to tell Denise?
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How am I going to face her?
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We'll tell her, ma'am.
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How old is Andrew?
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Was.
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How old was he?
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11 months.
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He never even made it
to his birthday.
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The boy's father?
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Who knows?
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Where's Denise work?
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One of the offices.
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Columbus Circle.
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They was rough-housing
over by the window.
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I told Gregory
to get away from there.
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I said,
"Put him in his jumper."
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Stay with her.
Make sure she's okay.
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Excuse me,
Mrs. winters?
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Hello?
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Sorry.
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Are you Denise winters?
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Sit down, please.
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Mrs. winters,
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there's been a shooting.
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Gregory?
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He's in the hospital.
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Last we heard,
serious, but stable.
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Oh my God! wait, whoa, whoa, whoa!
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Let me go!
We'll take you to him.
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We'll take you to him.
But that's not all.
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What you talking about?
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Andrew.
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He's dead.
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You're lying.
You're lying.
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That's my baby.
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My baby.
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No, no, not my baby.
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No. No!
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Aaah!
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Oh God!
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No... my baby.
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Six in one week.
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At this clip,
we're going to have
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a worse infant mortality rate
than Ethiopia.
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Anybody see anything?
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What do you think?
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Slugs are from an automatic,
that's all we know.
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They go through the door,
hit the wall,
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they're too deformed
for a positive make.
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You don't have one slug
to get a match from?
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Might get one from the baby.
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One went right through him,
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and one is lodged
in the base of his neck.
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They think.
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How's the older brother doing?
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Not good. He still hasn't
regained consciousness.
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Mushrooms.
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What?
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That's what they call them.
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It's a video game.
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You shoot at the centipedes.
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The mushrooms get in the way
of the bullets.
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Video game...
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that's hysterical.
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Hey, give me a break, Max,
I didn't make it up.
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He's a little tired.
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We're all tired.
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This thing about drugs?
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A place gets sprayed
with automatic fire,
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you assume it's not because
the stereo's too loud.
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Nobody ever has a verbal
altercation anymore, you notice that?
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A good fist-fight.
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Somebody looks at you cockeyed,
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you whip out a Mac-10.
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Mmm.
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I got 10 bucks says
the older brother's a dealer
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and this is just a payback.
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Judge Haberman, please.
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Tell him it's Cragen.
Captain Donald Cragen.
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I need a warrant.
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Why you always come too late?
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Excuse me?
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I said how come
the police never there
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before somebody gets shot?
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With all due respect, ma'am,
how are we supposed to know
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before somebody
starts shooting?
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Max!
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Used?
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Hasn't been cleaned lately,
that's for sure.
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That ain't Gregory's.
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It belonged to Gregory's daddy.
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We kept it for protection.
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Ain't got bullets no more.
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Yes, ma'am, I understand.
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But you still need
a permit for a handgun.
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What happened to the bike?
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What?
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Had an accident.
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You guys hang
with Gregory winters?
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We know Gregory.
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See somebody in
the building last night?
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Someone who doesn't live here?
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I look like a doorman?
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What about you?
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People come and go.
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Maybe they dealing,
I don't know.
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Mike, did you say
something about dealers?
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Why else are you asking then?
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'Cause a boy was hurt
and his brother was killed.
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Come on.
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What did you see?
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He didn't see nothing.
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Hey, who's asking you, pal?
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When I was coming in,
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this dude was sitting here.
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Yeah?
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I never saw him before.
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What did he look like?
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He had some tracks on the side,
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and his mouth were
all sparked out.
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It's a checkerboard cut,
gold caps on his teeth.
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Gold caps.
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Your mom and dad around?
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You see him, Tonel?
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What, am I supposed to know
everybody in the neighborhood?
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Nope, just a possible
accomplice to a murder.
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That's enough.
He's only a boy.
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So were the victims, ma'am.
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What about the one who ran out?
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Whoever it was ran him over.
He told you that already.
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Ain't that enough?
Do you knowwhat happens to him
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if those boys on the block
think he's a snitch?
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Let's go.
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Wait, wait a minute.
Tonel.
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Just a sec, all right?
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If you were looking for a
bad guy in your neighborhood,
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where would you start?
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You don't have to snitch.
We're just talking here.
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The crack house
above the bodega.
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Which one?
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99th and Manhattan.
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Raise up! Yo! Yo!
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Raise up!
Raise up, man! Raise up!
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Police!
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- Get out of there!
- Don't even breathe!
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Get out of there!
Don't even breathe!
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Get your butt in here!
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Come here, come here!
Up against the wall!
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Move it! I said
now! Move it, now!
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Hands behind your head!
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Behind your head!
Spread your legs.
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Spread your legs.
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Come on, move it.
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Let's go.
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Look towards the window.
Spread your legs.
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Face the window!
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Mike!
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Gimme your hand.
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Check out over there.
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Gimme your hand.
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Max!
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Yeah?
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What've you got?
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You believe this firepower?
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You guys are so trigger-happy,
why don't you join the army?
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9mm.
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Nice and clean.
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Hardly a scratch.
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That was in the boy's neck?
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Sometimes...
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bullets take
a very strange route.
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This one corkscrewed
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down into the right lung.
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We're lucky we found it.
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So which one was it?
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Tec-9.
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Superior spraying power,
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unsurpassed
for penetrating steel doors.
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That's terrific.
How good's the match?
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The slug you got
from the winters kid?
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Fired from this gun,
no question.
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Prints?
Multiples.
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One set, loud and clear.
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I wasn't there.
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Your prints were.
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I got an alibi.
Who cares?
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That's the gun
that killed the baby.
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It's got your fingerprints
all over it.
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Maybe the gun killed him,
but not me!
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Roneld, stupid and tough
is a bad combination.
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Yeah, well, it works
for you, man, right?
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That's funny.
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Yeah, he'll be
the class clown at Spofford.
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Yo, forget Spofford.
I ain't going to no Spofford.
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I'm calling the DA.
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You find who did it?
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Maybe.
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Listen,
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Did Gregory know a guy
named Roneld Griggs?
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I don't know. why?
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He had the gun that...
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We need a motive.
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Was Gregory involved with...
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with what?
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Drugs?
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Wednesday and Thursday nights,
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Saturday mornings,
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Gregory plays basketball.
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Monday and Tuesday nights,
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he got choir practice.
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Gregory ain't perfect,
but he ain't into no dope.
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I can guarantee you that.
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No offense, but sometimes
you can't tell these kinds of things.
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Maybe you can't,
but I sure as hell can.
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Look, I know it's not easy...
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Easy?
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Mister...
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I got a dead baby,
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a boy who may be crippled...
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and a supervisor who tells me
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that going to the morgue
and to the hospital
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is considered personal time.
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And now you saying
maybe Greg...
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Gregory was on drugs?
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Maybe he brought
this on himself?
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I'm sorry.
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Get out of here.
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All right?
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I got work to do.
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Gregory Winters was
a classic point guard.
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He ran the floor,
you know what I'm saying?
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Kid was the brains
of this team.
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Then he isn't in a gang?
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He didn't have time for that.
He thought those guys were lame.
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You ever see him hang out
with a kid
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with a checkerboard haircut
and sparked out teeth?
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That kinda crap's out there.
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But like I say,
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my boys don't have
time for stuff like that.
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Thanks.
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Gregory winters is a good kid.
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He plays ball, that's it.
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No link to Roneld whatsoever.
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A lot of partial prints.
Only Roneld's for sure.
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Does that make a case
against him? No, it does not.
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But if he didn't fire the gun,
at least he knows who did.
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Hey look, I would like
to have another crack at him.
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Fine, great. Only this time make
sure a parent is in the room.
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Otherwise, legally, the kid's
flapping his lips for nothing.
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Be gentle, Mike.
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Don't break the little creep's
trigger finger.
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Ronnie never killed nobody.
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Right. He's a good boy.
270
00:16:16,319 --> 00:16:18,617
Just two prior j gun possessions,
271
00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,027
and a dope misdemeanor.
272
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,729
What about yesterday?
273
00:16:21,697 --> 00:16:24,097
Let's make that
three guns, two drugs.
274
00:16:24,033 --> 00:16:25,933
Sounds to me
like a year, minimum.
275
00:16:25,890 --> 00:16:27,323
Ain't nothing to it.
276
00:16:27,298 --> 00:16:28,595
Oh, why is that?
277
00:16:28,578 --> 00:16:31,240
You like it in prison, punk?
278
00:16:36,741 --> 00:16:40,040
Maybe if we knew exactly
what you was looking for...
279
00:16:39,942 --> 00:16:42,570
we want to know
who pulled the damn trigger.
280
00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:45,665
Because it sure as hell
looks like your boy did it.
281
00:16:53,865 --> 00:16:55,457
Tell them, Ronnie.
282
00:16:55,434 --> 00:16:57,766
No.
283
00:17:02,187 --> 00:17:05,384
You think you can play
this fool game with me?!
284
00:17:09,389 --> 00:17:11,186
Tell them.
285
00:17:14,670 --> 00:17:16,604
I lent the gun to Dizz.
286
00:17:19,248 --> 00:17:20,613
Who's Dizz?
287
00:17:22,129 --> 00:17:23,619
His cousin.
288
00:17:25,745 --> 00:17:27,542
What's he look like?
289
00:17:27,506 --> 00:17:30,031
He's got some
290
00:17:29,971 --> 00:17:32,633
design cut in his head...
291
00:17:32,563 --> 00:17:34,394
like a checkerboard.
292
00:17:35,444 --> 00:17:37,935
I don't suppose he's sporting
a lot of gold teeth?
293
00:17:37,876 --> 00:17:40,811
Fort Knox.
294
00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:01,444
Yo! Yo!
295
00:18:02,331 --> 00:18:05,459
Which one of you guys
is Dizz williams?
296
00:18:07,517 --> 00:18:09,109
Hey, Dizz! Go, man!
297
00:18:09,149 --> 00:18:10,639
C'mon, man!
298
00:18:13,982 --> 00:18:15,916
Look at them gold teeth.
299
00:18:15,871 --> 00:18:17,361
Hello, Dizz.
300
00:18:17,343 --> 00:18:19,277
The Tec-9 you got
from your cousin Ronnie...
301
00:18:19,232 --> 00:18:21,097
who used it
when you were on the stoop?
302
00:18:21,056 --> 00:18:23,991
I want a lawyer!
Give him a lawyer.
303
00:18:23,905 --> 00:18:27,841
Who used the gun?
I want to know the name, Dizz!
304
00:18:27,714 --> 00:18:29,204
I ain't got no name!
305
00:18:29,186 --> 00:18:31,711
Wrong. You got a name,
306
00:18:31,651 --> 00:18:33,516
and pretty soon you're going
to have a number.
307
00:18:33,475 --> 00:18:35,841
You're under arrest for
the murder of Andrew winters.
308
00:18:35,780 --> 00:18:37,213
You have the right
to remain silent,
309
00:18:37,189 --> 00:18:38,781
and refuse to answer questions.
310
00:18:38,757 --> 00:18:40,987
Anything you do say may be used
against you in a court of law.
311
00:18:40,934 --> 00:18:44,461
You're saying you've never been
in that building before, huh?
312
00:18:44,358 --> 00:18:46,656
I said I was in South Carolina
until last night.
313
00:18:46,599 --> 00:18:48,499
That's right, with family.
314
00:18:48,456 --> 00:18:50,549
How could you shoot the hell
out of the winters family
315
00:18:50,504 --> 00:18:52,597
if you were down south
with yourfamily?
316
00:18:52,553 --> 00:18:54,783
I don't know nothing
about no shooting.
317
00:18:54,729 --> 00:18:56,253
Oh.
318
00:18:56,233 --> 00:18:57,894
The gun that was used
in the shooting,
319
00:18:57,866 --> 00:19:00,198
the one that you know
nothing about...
320
00:19:00,139 --> 00:19:02,437
your cousin Roneld
said he gave it to you.
321
00:19:02,379 --> 00:19:03,971
Roneld a punk.
322
00:19:03,947 --> 00:19:06,211
You're dissing me.
Roneld'd never say that.
323
00:19:06,156 --> 00:19:09,216
I'm dissing you? Huh?
324
00:19:09,133 --> 00:19:12,125
Oh, I forgot,
you're such a big man.
325
00:19:12,045 --> 00:19:14,707
It takes a real big man
to ice a baby.
326
00:19:14,638 --> 00:19:16,265
I didn't ice nobody!
Yeah?
327
00:19:16,239 --> 00:19:18,469
Then you're going down
for someone else's bummer,
328
00:19:18,415 --> 00:19:20,975
'cause right nowwe got
a witness that puts you there.
329
00:19:20,912 --> 00:19:22,937
And you had the gun.
330
00:19:22,896 --> 00:19:26,388
My boy's 13. You can't do nothing
like this. You got to go to juvie...
331
00:19:26,289 --> 00:19:29,622
we can do plenty when it comes
to felony homicide, Mr. williams.
332
00:19:29,522 --> 00:19:31,422
If you don't want
to blow parole,
333
00:19:31,378 --> 00:19:32,902
just shut up!
334
00:19:32,883 --> 00:19:34,851
You're dissing me.
335
00:19:34,804 --> 00:19:37,238
I don't know
nothing about no shooting.
336
00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:40,388
It's not enough
that he had the gun.
337
00:19:40,341 --> 00:19:42,275
His prints could've
been from anytime.
338
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:44,824
You got a witness
who saw him at the shooting.
339
00:19:44,758 --> 00:19:47,226
Tonel Otten, a 12 year old.
340
00:19:47,158 --> 00:19:49,718
As we all know,
not terrific on the stand.
341
00:19:49,656 --> 00:19:52,022
Roneld gave Dizz the gun.
342
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,393
Says Roneld.
343
00:19:53,368 --> 00:19:54,892
Let's be realistic here.
344
00:19:54,873 --> 00:19:57,273
Juvenile court judges may not
like kids with guns,
345
00:19:57,209 --> 00:19:59,643
but they like a clean case,
and they want a motive.
346
00:19:59,578 --> 00:20:01,808
Who says the little son
of a bitch needs a motive?
347
00:20:01,754 --> 00:20:04,052
What the hell
is a motive, anyway?
348
00:20:03,995 --> 00:20:05,986
"He took my seat. " Bam!
349
00:20:05,947 --> 00:20:07,972
"He's looking
at my girlfriend. " Bam!
350
00:20:07,932 --> 00:20:10,867
"I need them shoes. " Bam!
351
00:20:11,773 --> 00:20:14,139
Max has been busting
his chops on this case.
352
00:20:14,078 --> 00:20:15,306
I understand.
353
00:20:15,295 --> 00:20:17,456
Whoa, I can apologize
for myself!
354
00:20:17,407 --> 00:20:20,706
Only I don't feel apologetic!
I'm fed up!
355
00:20:28,514 --> 00:20:31,176
You put together a strong case
356
00:20:31,107 --> 00:20:32,904
we'll put him away, Sergeant.
357
00:20:34,531 --> 00:20:37,989
I know, I know.
Why am I picking a fight with you?
358
00:20:40,676 --> 00:20:42,610
You knowwhat it is, Paul?
359
00:20:42,565 --> 00:20:44,465
Dizz is 13.
360
00:20:44,422 --> 00:20:47,414
The boy in the hospital, he's 12.
361
00:20:47,335 --> 00:20:50,270
The baby's in the ground.
362
00:20:50,183 --> 00:20:53,175
Our emergency rooms
are up to their ears
363
00:20:53,096 --> 00:20:55,030
with kids on the wrong end
of stray bullets,
364
00:20:54,984 --> 00:20:56,645
and this little scuz
is laughing at us
365
00:20:56,617 --> 00:20:59,450
'cause he knows he's a juvenile
and we can't get him!
366
00:21:05,259 --> 00:21:07,284
That's not necessarily true.
367
00:21:13,902 --> 00:21:15,597
People versus Williams,
368
00:21:15,566 --> 00:21:17,864
counsel will waive reading
of the rights and charges.
369
00:21:17,807 --> 00:21:18,967
Your Honor, this is a joke.
370
00:21:18,959 --> 00:21:20,620
You can't try this boy
as an adult.
371
00:21:20,592 --> 00:21:22,423
We should be standing
in family court.
372
00:21:22,384 --> 00:21:25,478
Mr. williams may be
only 13, but the statute is clear.
373
00:21:25,393 --> 00:21:28,487
He's here on a felony complaint
charging intentional murder two.
374
00:21:28,401 --> 00:21:30,301
Mr. Robinette,
can I get in a word here?
375
00:21:30,258 --> 00:21:31,657
This boy have any priors?
376
00:21:31,634 --> 00:21:33,829
Two, Your Honor,
both involving guns.
377
00:21:33,779 --> 00:21:36,043
We believe these show
a real propensity to violence.
378
00:21:35,987 --> 00:21:38,979
If the court remands
to Supreme Criminal,
379
00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:40,697
you'll indict
on intentional murder two?
380
00:21:40,660 --> 00:21:41,820
Absolutely.
381
00:21:41,813 --> 00:21:43,508
Your Honor,
with all due respect,
382
00:21:43,478 --> 00:21:45,139
isn't this kind of overkill?
383
00:21:45,109 --> 00:21:47,407
"Kill"? I wouldn't use
that word in here
384
00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:49,375
if the accused were my client.
385
00:21:49,335 --> 00:21:52,600
Mr. williams knew
exactly what he was doing.
386
00:21:52,504 --> 00:21:55,769
It is just and appropriate
that he be tried as an adult.
387
00:21:55,672 --> 00:21:57,105
Keep it down.
388
00:21:57,081 --> 00:21:58,605
Your Honor, I intend
to submit written motions...
389
00:21:58,585 --> 00:22:00,576
Be my guest.
Anything further, Mr. Robinette?
390
00:22:00,538 --> 00:22:02,233
The people ask that Mr. williams
be remanded without bail
391
00:22:02,202 --> 00:22:04,796
to an appropriate juvenile facility,
pending trial.
392
00:22:04,731 --> 00:22:07,063
So ordered. Case transferred
to Supreme Court.
393
00:22:07,003 --> 00:22:08,265
This is jive!
394
00:22:08,252 --> 00:22:10,516
I didn't murder nobody!
It's a set-up!
395
00:22:10,461 --> 00:22:12,952
Restrain your client
or the court officers will.
396
00:22:12,893 --> 00:22:15,225
You going to stand there?!
It's a set-up.
397
00:22:16,318 --> 00:22:17,751
Get off me!
398
00:22:17,726 --> 00:22:19,717
Listen, Stone,
this kid didn't do it.
399
00:22:19,678 --> 00:22:21,441
I understand you're getting
a lot of heat...
400
00:22:21,407 --> 00:22:23,671
Knock of the sermon, Alex.
Your client had the gun.
401
00:22:23,616 --> 00:22:25,174
The judge's decision
is unwarranted.
402
00:22:25,152 --> 00:22:27,780
Mr. williams was out in front
at the time of the murder.
403
00:22:27,712 --> 00:22:30,078
An eyewitness who can see
in the dark? Very compelling.
404
00:22:30,018 --> 00:22:32,179
The stoop was well lit.
Tonel saw somebody else.
405
00:22:32,130 --> 00:22:34,098
He won't be testifying
against me.
406
00:22:34,051 --> 00:22:36,952
For your sake, young man,
I hope you didn't threaten him.
407
00:22:36,867 --> 00:22:38,528
What are we talking about?
408
00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:41,469
He pleads as an accessory
to manslaughter two.
409
00:22:41,380 --> 00:22:43,280
He gives us the shooter.
410
00:22:45,061 --> 00:22:47,052
I was at my Aunt Cecile's
in Carolina.
411
00:22:47,014 --> 00:22:48,845
Wasn't nowhere near
New York City.
412
00:22:48,806 --> 00:22:50,933
Cut the crap, Dizz.
413
00:22:50,887 --> 00:22:53,082
The police in Charleston
talked to a guy named Summers.
414
00:22:53,031 --> 00:22:55,625
Who? The guy who put you on
the train to New York City...
415
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,993
four days before the murder.
416
00:23:00,586 --> 00:23:02,349
Who shot the baby?
417
00:23:04,683 --> 00:23:06,776
Dude named T-Ball.
418
00:23:06,731 --> 00:23:08,323
T- Ball Howard.
419
00:23:08,299 --> 00:23:09,823
Real name?
420
00:23:09,804 --> 00:23:11,328
Franklin.
421
00:23:11,309 --> 00:23:13,607
Come to me and said he
needed a burner. For what?
422
00:23:13,549 --> 00:23:15,346
A job, man.
423
00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:17,301
Says this job was worth 500.
424
00:23:17,262 --> 00:23:19,253
So I borrowed the burner
from Roneld.
425
00:23:19,214 --> 00:23:21,944
Roneld let you borrow
a gun worth $1500?
426
00:23:21,871 --> 00:23:23,463
Who hired your friend
to do the job?
427
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,534
He didn't tell me.
Just said he needed the gun.
428
00:23:28,369 --> 00:23:29,836
And then what?
429
00:23:29,809 --> 00:23:31,504
I rented it from Roneld for 100,
430
00:23:31,474 --> 00:23:33,237
charged T-ball 200.
431
00:23:33,202 --> 00:23:36,069
I didn't shoot that baby, man.
432
00:23:35,987 --> 00:23:37,545
T- Ball did.
433
00:23:41,652 --> 00:23:43,483
That T-Ball?
434
00:24:14,397 --> 00:24:16,160
Five minutes, Counselor.
435
00:24:16,125 --> 00:24:17,717
Then I want him alone.
436
00:24:18,654 --> 00:24:21,179
I told you, I never been
on Jacobs Place.
437
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,984
And I'll bet you never
rented a Tec-9.
438
00:24:22,943 --> 00:24:25,411
Tec-9?
What's that, mouthwash?
439
00:24:25,344 --> 00:24:27,471
Who ordered the hit, T-Ball?
440
00:24:30,722 --> 00:24:32,690
That's right, genius.
441
00:24:32,642 --> 00:24:36,078
Your buddy Dizz
told us the whole story.
442
00:24:35,971 --> 00:24:38,166
And he's going
to repeat it in court.
443
00:24:44,485 --> 00:24:47,420
Why don't you let me
talk with my client?
444
00:24:47,334 --> 00:24:49,825
The Howard kid'll roll.
He's got no choice.
445
00:24:49,766 --> 00:24:51,791
You better hope you're
right, 'cause we still ain't got
446
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:53,911
idea one why he shot
the winters boys.
447
00:24:53,864 --> 00:24:56,924
Anything else on T-Ball?
448
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,934
He's 14 years old, lives with his
mother and two-year-old brother,
449
00:24:59,849 --> 00:25:01,077
no gang affiliation.
450
00:25:01,065 --> 00:25:02,862
He even know Gregory winters?
451
00:25:02,825 --> 00:25:05,191
There's no indications.
452
00:25:05,131 --> 00:25:07,065
The winters kid
been upgraded yet?
453
00:25:07,018 --> 00:25:09,714
Yeah, he regained
consciousness last night.
454
00:25:12,108 --> 00:25:13,268
Franklin Howard?
455
00:25:13,261 --> 00:25:14,751
Tall guy, thin.
456
00:25:14,733 --> 00:25:16,132
Sure you don't know him?
457
00:25:16,109 --> 00:25:18,942
I don't know him.
458
00:25:21,422 --> 00:25:23,117
Sorry.
459
00:25:23,151 --> 00:25:25,346
These things have to be asked.
460
00:25:27,312 --> 00:25:28,677
How do you feel?
461
00:25:33,457 --> 00:25:35,425
Okay.
462
00:25:36,851 --> 00:25:39,012
Thanks, Gregory.
463
00:25:41,235 --> 00:25:42,998
Excuse me.
464
00:25:49,974 --> 00:25:53,967
Why do you people insist
on blaming my boy?
465
00:25:53,847 --> 00:25:55,405
I'm sorry.
466
00:25:55,383 --> 00:25:57,613
He doesn't know these boys.
467
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,960
He didn't do anything
to cause them
468
00:25:59,897 --> 00:26:02,388
to shoot up the apartment.
469
00:26:02,329 --> 00:26:03,819
I know.
470
00:26:10,139 --> 00:26:12,437
Ben.
471
00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:15,213
Mr. Howard understands
you can convict him.
472
00:26:15,133 --> 00:26:17,260
He's ready to deal.
I thought he might be.
473
00:26:17,213 --> 00:26:19,306
He names the buyer of the hit,
but he gets tried as a juvenile.
474
00:26:19,262 --> 00:26:20,786
Not a prayer.
I know he's...
475
00:26:20,766 --> 00:26:23,394
we're in an epidemic, Brian.
He killed a baby,
476
00:26:23,326 --> 00:26:24,918
the older brother's
a paraplegic.
477
00:26:24,895 --> 00:26:26,726
It was a mistake.
You want to explain that?
478
00:26:26,688 --> 00:26:28,417
Look, just make me an offer.
479
00:26:28,384 --> 00:26:29,851
Why?
480
00:26:29,825 --> 00:26:33,192
Trust me, Ben, you make a deal,
you'll want the result.
481
00:26:33,089 --> 00:26:34,147
As in?
482
00:26:34,145 --> 00:26:36,238
As in you get a major dealer
off the streets.
483
00:26:37,123 --> 00:26:38,590
T- Ball's just a soldier.
484
00:26:38,563 --> 00:26:41,259
He can give you the general.
485
00:26:41,187 --> 00:26:45,055
Manslaughter one, he gets
sentenced in Supreme Court,
486
00:26:44,932 --> 00:26:46,900
and he does the youthful
offender maximum.
487
00:26:46,853 --> 00:26:48,343
Deal. I do this plea and
you're throwing curves...
488
00:26:48,326 --> 00:26:50,692
Believe me, you won't regret it.
489
00:26:51,942 --> 00:26:54,843
I know they're screaming
for this kid's head, Adam,
490
00:26:54,759 --> 00:26:57,455
but they're better off
if we put away the dealer.
491
00:26:57,384 --> 00:26:59,215
I want 'em both. I want everyone.
492
00:26:59,176 --> 00:27:01,508
I want the kid
who gave him the gun,
493
00:27:01,449 --> 00:27:04,612
I want the kid who
pulled the trigger and this pusher.
494
00:27:04,521 --> 00:27:07,786
So do I, but if we don't
get the guy who gave the order,
495
00:27:07,691 --> 00:27:09,556
we have more crack,
more contract killings,
496
00:27:09,515 --> 00:27:10,743
more dead kids.
497
00:27:10,732 --> 00:27:12,290
What are they asking for?
498
00:27:12,268 --> 00:27:15,328
Man one. T-Ball gets three
and a third to 10,
499
00:27:15,244 --> 00:27:16,677
he does the whole 10.
500
00:27:16,652 --> 00:27:18,449
He's not going
to boarding school.
501
00:27:18,414 --> 00:27:20,814
You and I wouldn't last
10 minutes in there.
502
00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:22,513
You sure this pays off?
503
00:27:22,478 --> 00:27:24,969
I think I can trust Doxsee.
504
00:27:24,911 --> 00:27:26,276
You think?
505
00:27:27,856 --> 00:27:30,120
I can't afford not to.
506
00:27:31,216 --> 00:27:33,707
He said he needed to get rid
of a business problem.
507
00:27:33,649 --> 00:27:35,708
Somebody burn him on a drug deal?
508
00:27:35,666 --> 00:27:37,429
It was real estate.
509
00:27:37,394 --> 00:27:39,828
Said it was 300 large.
510
00:27:43,027 --> 00:27:45,222
Had you ever met
Ingrams before?
511
00:27:45,172 --> 00:27:47,470
I've done some
little jobs for him.
512
00:27:47,413 --> 00:27:49,404
No hits.
513
00:27:49,365 --> 00:27:51,925
When I heard about this one,
I thought,
514
00:27:51,862 --> 00:27:53,659
"If I had a gun..."
515
00:27:53,623 --> 00:27:56,183
But you didn't know
a baby was behind the door?
516
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,882
That's why
I'm talking to you, man.
517
00:27:57,847 --> 00:27:59,781
I didn't know.
518
00:27:59,736 --> 00:28:03,763
Ingrams gives me the address
of this guy he wants me to do...
519
00:28:03,642 --> 00:28:05,803
Mr. Kay.
520
00:28:05,754 --> 00:28:07,745
I'm supposed to go
air out his crib.
521
00:28:07,706 --> 00:28:09,640
So I go over there,
522
00:28:09,595 --> 00:28:11,495
hear some voices inside,
523
00:28:11,451 --> 00:28:13,681
but I...
524
00:28:13,628 --> 00:28:16,096
just must've gone
to the wrong place.
525
00:28:16,029 --> 00:28:17,963
You thought
a real estate tycoon
526
00:28:17,917 --> 00:28:19,509
lived in the winters' building?
527
00:28:19,485 --> 00:28:23,216
Like I told you
What'd you do with the address?
528
00:28:23,103 --> 00:28:25,333
I threw it away after the...
529
00:28:25,278 --> 00:28:27,303
thing went down.
530
00:28:31,425 --> 00:28:33,416
"This guy
he wants me to do."
531
00:28:33,377 --> 00:28:34,844
It's not enough.
532
00:28:34,818 --> 00:28:37,787
It would be, if we could connect
Ingrams with the mythical Mr. Kay.
533
00:28:37,698 --> 00:28:39,529
You want me to have
Ingrams brought in?
534
00:28:39,490 --> 00:28:42,789
Why? Have him go through
the motions of denying it?
535
00:28:42,691 --> 00:28:45,683
You think it's K like Murray
the K, or K-A-Y, or...?
536
00:28:45,604 --> 00:28:47,196
Or Kaye with an E.
537
00:28:47,172 --> 00:28:50,039
There couldn't be more than
a thousand variations in New York City.
538
00:28:52,998 --> 00:28:56,627
That's K-A-Y-E.
Five boroughs.
539
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:58,714
This must be 500 more names.
540
00:28:59,816 --> 00:29:01,408
What do you want me to do?
541
00:29:04,617 --> 00:29:06,084
Start with Manhattan.
542
00:29:14,059 --> 00:29:17,256
Someone was hired
to kill a "Mr. Kay."
543
00:29:17,165 --> 00:29:20,566
The hit man went
to 315 Jacobs Place.
544
00:29:20,462 --> 00:29:22,726
You live at 315 Jameson Place.
545
00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:25,920
So?
546
00:29:27,503 --> 00:29:29,334
My husband and I are active
547
00:29:29,296 --> 00:29:31,730
in the Reform Democrats,
Mr. Robinette.
548
00:29:31,664 --> 00:29:35,464
We helped found the Carnegie Hill
Alternative School.
549
00:29:35,345 --> 00:29:38,610
We were once mentioned j
j j in passing on page six,
550
00:29:38,514 --> 00:29:42,109
but I doubt any of that
qualifies us for assassination.
551
00:29:43,091 --> 00:29:45,389
What kind of work
does your husband do, Mrs. Kay?
552
00:29:45,332 --> 00:29:46,856
Real estate.
553
00:29:48,085 --> 00:29:51,452
What, he's guilty of gentrification?
554
00:29:51,349 --> 00:29:54,682
I'm afraid it's going to be
much worse than that.
555
00:29:58,968 --> 00:30:00,799
A month ago...
556
00:30:01,688 --> 00:30:04,156
Edward M. Kay
deposited 300,000
557
00:30:04,088 --> 00:30:06,716
into his corporate
checking account.
558
00:30:06,650 --> 00:30:09,175
But he hasn't made
a sale since August.
559
00:30:09,114 --> 00:30:12,277
And the kid who did the hit
said he mentioned 300,000.
560
00:30:12,187 --> 00:30:15,281
Kay fronted as a buyer
of an apartment for Ingrams.
561
00:30:15,196 --> 00:30:16,925
300,000 cash.
562
00:30:16,892 --> 00:30:19,452
It comes to closing, Kay
doesn't show up with the money.
563
00:30:19,389 --> 00:30:21,584
He stiffed him, Adam.
Stiffed a drug dealer.
564
00:30:21,533 --> 00:30:23,228
There's your motive.
565
00:30:23,198 --> 00:30:24,756
And the kid shot up
the wrong apartment.
566
00:30:24,734 --> 00:30:26,361
Unbelievable.
567
00:30:26,334 --> 00:30:28,131
The winters baby is dead
568
00:30:28,095 --> 00:30:30,757
'cause a 14-year-old hit man
went to the wrong place.
569
00:30:30,688 --> 00:30:32,883
Do you understand these people?
570
00:30:32,833 --> 00:30:35,393
They live better
than 99% of humanity,
571
00:30:35,329 --> 00:30:37,320
and they have to steal
from drug dealers.
572
00:30:37,282 --> 00:30:39,273
Ingrams will go up for murder,
one way or the other.
573
00:30:39,234 --> 00:30:42,032
If Mr. Kay decides
to testify.
574
00:30:41,955 --> 00:30:44,480
Real estate fraud-
not much to work with.
575
00:30:44,419 --> 00:30:46,114
Maybe Kay has a conscience.
576
00:30:46,083 --> 00:30:49,450
Yeah, maybe he houses the homeless in
his basement, but I wouldn't count on it.
577
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:54,718
I sold a nice two-bedroom
on west End Avenue
578
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:57,656
to a young black man.
That's a crime?
579
00:30:57,575 --> 00:30:59,975
When you steal his money it is.
580
00:30:59,912 --> 00:31:03,279
What stealing? we had a little
problem with the closing papers.
581
00:31:03,176 --> 00:31:04,871
You know, this Chamber
of Commerce routine
582
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,536
is getting on my nerves.
In 1986 you were arrested
583
00:31:07,465 --> 00:31:10,764
for cocaine possession.
Ingrams your dealer?
584
00:31:10,666 --> 00:31:13,294
An arrest with no conviction
is not relevant here.
585
00:31:13,227 --> 00:31:15,320
It isn't?
586
00:31:17,804 --> 00:31:20,568
You do a little coke,
you figure, what the hell?
587
00:31:20,493 --> 00:31:22,188
It's a victimless crime.
588
00:31:22,158 --> 00:31:25,719
And you use drug money
to buy real estate.
589
00:31:27,086 --> 00:31:28,519
You think that makes it clean?
590
00:31:28,495 --> 00:31:30,156
Look, I...
591
00:31:30,127 --> 00:31:33,290
An 11-month-old baby died
because of your sins, Mr. Kay.
592
00:31:35,216 --> 00:31:37,707
If you want to
talk about his testimony...
593
00:31:37,649 --> 00:31:40,083
what did you do
with the $300,000?
594
00:31:41,586 --> 00:31:44,555
You didn't cheat
some yuppie banker.
595
00:31:44,467 --> 00:31:47,903
Mr. Ingrams- he doesn't sue,
he hires a hit man.
596
00:31:50,676 --> 00:31:53,144
You haven't mentioned
any incentives
597
00:31:53,078 --> 00:31:55,069
for cooperation.
598
00:31:56,375 --> 00:31:58,639
No?
599
00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:00,642
How is this?
600
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:03,932
If your client doesn't
start talking now,
601
00:32:03,832 --> 00:32:06,062
I'll tear his life apart.
602
00:32:06,009 --> 00:32:07,806
Real estate boards,
603
00:32:07,769 --> 00:32:10,237
clients,
skeletons in the closet...
604
00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:13,598
light of day, guaranteed.
605
00:32:25,534 --> 00:32:29,129
Ingrams came to me
with 300,000 he wanted cleaned.
606
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,368
I was in the middle
of a redevelopment project
607
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,976
that was dying
for an infusion of cash.
608
00:32:35,904 --> 00:32:37,496
So you used Ingrams' money.
609
00:32:37,473 --> 00:32:38,997
I thought I could
turn it around,
610
00:32:38,978 --> 00:32:40,946
get his money
in and out quickly.
611
00:32:42,338 --> 00:32:44,203
The market went soft.
612
00:32:44,163 --> 00:32:46,757
The lenders foreclosed
on the project.
613
00:32:46,691 --> 00:32:49,854
And the $300,000 went to them.
614
00:32:52,261 --> 00:32:54,126
Did Ingrams threaten you?
615
00:32:55,494 --> 00:32:57,223
Oh, no.
616
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:59,090
No, no.
617
00:33:00,423 --> 00:33:03,449
I point my finger at him,
I'm dead.
618
00:33:03,368 --> 00:33:05,359
If you help us out,
we'll put him away.
619
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,787
And if you don't?
620
00:33:06,761 --> 00:33:09,355
And if you don't testify,
621
00:33:09,290 --> 00:33:11,019
he'll get you- sooner or later.
622
00:33:10,986 --> 00:33:13,477
I'd rather it was later.
623
00:33:15,051 --> 00:33:16,746
You made your pitch,
Mr. Stone.
624
00:33:19,788 --> 00:33:21,619
And it didn't get through?
625
00:33:21,581 --> 00:33:25,108
I'd rather go to a loan shark
for the 300 grand
626
00:33:25,006 --> 00:33:27,474
than take on Michael Ingrams.
627
00:33:33,904 --> 00:33:36,270
Pick Ingrams up.
We have enough to charge him.
628
00:33:36,208 --> 00:33:38,676
Without Kay's testimony?
Come on, Paul.
629
00:33:38,609 --> 00:33:40,474
Ingrams is a maggot.
We can crush him.
630
00:33:40,434 --> 00:33:42,129
He doesn't know
Kay won't testify.
631
00:33:42,098 --> 00:33:44,191
We get him to plead
manslaughter, he's off the street.
632
00:33:44,146 --> 00:33:46,546
At least Kay lives long enough
to change his mind.
633
00:33:47,731 --> 00:33:49,631
Sold.
634
00:33:49,588 --> 00:33:52,614
The people
versus Michael Ingrams.
635
00:33:52,533 --> 00:33:55,525
Murder in the second degree;
636
00:33:55,446 --> 00:33:57,846
Manslaughter
in the first degree;
637
00:33:57,782 --> 00:34:00,512
Attempted murder
in the second degree;
638
00:34:00,439 --> 00:34:02,873
And assault
in the first degree.
639
00:34:02,808 --> 00:34:04,708
How does the defendant plead?
640
00:34:04,664 --> 00:34:06,188
Not guilty.
641
00:34:06,168 --> 00:34:08,068
On all counts, Your Honor.
642
00:34:08,025 --> 00:34:09,686
I'm serving grand jury notice
643
00:34:09,657 --> 00:34:11,215
upon defense counsel,
Your Honor.
644
00:34:11,194 --> 00:34:14,721
Do the People wish to be
heard on bail, Mr. Robinette?
645
00:34:14,618 --> 00:34:18,748
Your Honor, as a multiple
prior felony offender,
646
00:34:18,620 --> 00:34:21,748
and a convicted
narcotics trafficker,
647
00:34:21,661 --> 00:34:23,959
Mr. Ingrams faces
mandatory life.
648
00:34:23,901 --> 00:34:27,064
The People request he be
held without bail.
649
00:34:28,862 --> 00:34:30,853
Well, Counselor,
I believe a high bail
650
00:34:30,815 --> 00:34:32,646
is appropriate in this case.
Name a figure.
651
00:34:32,607 --> 00:34:35,474
The people ask
$1 million, Your Honor.
652
00:34:35,392 --> 00:34:37,223
So ordered.
653
00:34:43,682 --> 00:34:46,150
You wanted the whole
package, Adam. we delivered.
654
00:34:46,083 --> 00:34:47,744
So far.
655
00:34:47,715 --> 00:34:49,842
But if this Ingrams hood
walks on a technicality,
656
00:34:49,796 --> 00:34:52,287
all your good work is bupkis.
657
00:34:52,228 --> 00:34:53,957
Offer him man two.
658
00:34:53,925 --> 00:34:57,088
He engineered the death of an infant, for
heaven's sake. People will be outraged.
659
00:34:56,998 --> 00:34:58,795
The people will forget
this outrage
660
00:34:58,758 --> 00:35:01,727
as soon as the next outrage
hits the front page.
661
00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:04,904
The winters boy isn't the only
innocent victim in New York City.
662
00:35:04,808 --> 00:35:08,904
Man two, then go for
the maximum at sentencing.
663
00:35:16,491 --> 00:35:18,789
Forget it, Stone.
664
00:35:18,732 --> 00:35:21,428
You don't come running
with your hat in your hand
665
00:35:21,356 --> 00:35:22,789
from a position of strength.
666
00:35:22,765 --> 00:35:25,097
You call this a position
of strength, Counselor?
667
00:35:25,037 --> 00:35:28,200
We're offering a deal
so we can wrap this up,
668
00:35:28,110 --> 00:35:30,169
but if you want to play games...
669
00:35:30,126 --> 00:35:32,959
what games? You got
the unsubstantiated testimony
670
00:35:32,879 --> 00:35:35,507
of a little psycho
who can't shoot straight.
671
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,931
Let's get something
straight here, Mr. Stone.
672
00:35:37,873 --> 00:35:40,137
I'm not in short pants.
673
00:35:40,081 --> 00:35:42,675
T- Ball's testimony
isn't enough to convict me.
674
00:35:42,609 --> 00:35:45,339
Probably not.
But Ned Kay's will.
675
00:35:45,267 --> 00:35:47,735
Ned Kay?
676
00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:51,804
He won't mess with my thing.
677
00:35:53,268 --> 00:35:54,895
I'm going back to my cell.
678
00:36:04,024 --> 00:36:06,219
Okay, so it's not an even bet.
679
00:36:06,168 --> 00:36:08,830
Even? I wouldn't
give you 20 to one.
680
00:36:08,761 --> 00:36:10,092
So Kay stole his money,
681
00:36:10,073 --> 00:36:12,007
but does a jury
believe he'd kill him?
682
00:36:11,961 --> 00:36:13,394
Ingrams is a drug dealer.
683
00:36:13,370 --> 00:36:16,271
He doesn't look
like a drug dealer.
684
00:36:17,243 --> 00:36:19,234
You want me not to go to trial?
685
00:36:19,195 --> 00:36:21,459
Mr. Kay is still
a question mark.
686
00:36:21,404 --> 00:36:23,531
What have you got
on his finances?
687
00:36:23,484 --> 00:36:25,111
Is there a federal tax charge?
688
00:36:26,621 --> 00:36:28,179
The IRS.
689
00:36:29,662 --> 00:36:32,130
Uh-uh, we do not let
tax evaders walk.
690
00:36:32,063 --> 00:36:33,928
If it's major fraud,
he goes to jail.
691
00:36:33,888 --> 00:36:35,719
Come on, Sam, you can still
make an example of him.
692
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,944
No, never. Forget
about it. Go away.
693
00:36:37,888 --> 00:36:39,651
Take his money,
put him in the poorhouse,
694
00:36:39,616 --> 00:36:42,084
treble penalties,
but don't send him to jail.
695
00:36:42,018 --> 00:36:43,451
What do you get?
696
00:36:43,426 --> 00:36:45,690
A dealer and a killer
off the street.
697
00:36:47,138 --> 00:36:48,935
Okay,
698
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:51,460
but I want it in writing
in letters eight feet high.
699
00:36:51,396 --> 00:36:54,160
When they go for my neck,
I want yours in the noose with me.
700
00:36:56,101 --> 00:37:00,128
Tax fraud, Mr. Morton, and your
client goes away for 10 years.
701
00:37:01,031 --> 00:37:04,091
10 years in a federal
country club?
702
00:37:04,007 --> 00:37:07,340
I can work on my tennis game.
It's better than being dead.
703
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:10,698
Suppose I convince the IRS
not to prosecute?
704
00:37:15,178 --> 00:37:17,840
I'll bite.
Suppose you do?
705
00:37:17,770 --> 00:37:19,601
They take every dime,
706
00:37:19,563 --> 00:37:22,430
you don't even keep
the dishwasher.
707
00:37:22,348 --> 00:37:25,146
But if you testify,
you can move to Nebraska
708
00:37:25,069 --> 00:37:26,798
the day the trial is over.
709
00:37:27,693 --> 00:37:29,888
You son of a bitch.
710
00:37:30,926 --> 00:37:32,393
You set this up.
711
00:37:32,367 --> 00:37:35,495
The deal is good
for 15 seconds.
712
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,068
I keep the house in Sag Harbor.
713
00:37:42,001 --> 00:37:44,401
No, you don't.
714
00:37:44,338 --> 00:37:45,999
10 seconds.
715
00:37:47,026 --> 00:37:48,425
The Mercedes.
716
00:37:48,403 --> 00:37:50,268
They take the Mercedes.
717
00:37:50,227 --> 00:37:51,888
Five seconds.
718
00:38:08,472 --> 00:38:11,737
When you told Mr. Ingrams that you
were unable to return his money,
719
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,505
how did he respond?
720
00:38:13,465 --> 00:38:16,093
He indicated he would kill me.
721
00:38:16,026 --> 00:38:18,517
Objection. Indicated?
722
00:38:18,459 --> 00:38:21,394
When Mr. Kay continues, I think
you'll find it admissible, Your Honor.
723
00:38:21,307 --> 00:38:23,207
I'll allow it.
Go ahead, Mr. Stone.
724
00:38:23,163 --> 00:38:26,030
How did he indicate it, Mr. Kay?
725
00:38:28,349 --> 00:38:31,182
He said he would
have my place aired out.
726
00:38:32,511 --> 00:38:33,876
No further questions.
727
00:38:37,952 --> 00:38:40,546
Mr. Kay, you testified
Mr. Ingrams said
728
00:38:40,481 --> 00:38:41,971
he'd air your place out.
729
00:38:41,953 --> 00:38:43,716
Could he have meant
he'd break all your windows?
730
00:38:43,681 --> 00:38:46,707
Don't be ridiculous. Please
just stick to yes or no.
731
00:38:46,626 --> 00:38:49,356
This cash you allege
came from the defendant...
732
00:38:49,283 --> 00:38:50,614
you said you used it
to bail out
733
00:38:50,595 --> 00:38:52,256
one of your own projects,
is that right?
734
00:38:52,227 --> 00:38:53,558
Yes.
735
00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:57,032
Well? Did you?
736
00:38:56,933 --> 00:39:00,494
Yes. At least, I tried, but...
737
00:39:00,390 --> 00:39:02,255
But what?
738
00:39:05,703 --> 00:39:08,263
Did your habit interfere
with business, Mr. Kay?
739
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:09,359
Objection, Your Honor.
740
00:39:09,352 --> 00:39:11,286
Sidebar, Your Honor.
741
00:39:12,425 --> 00:39:14,154
What's this about?
742
00:39:14,121 --> 00:39:18,057
I'm going to impeach
his credibility, Judge.
743
00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:19,363
He's a cocaine user.
744
00:39:19,339 --> 00:39:22,570
Your Honor, the People are
aware of Mr. Kay's '86 arrest,
745
00:39:22,476 --> 00:39:24,671
but he was not convicted.
It's not relevant.
746
00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:25,746
It's not admissible.
747
00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:27,708
Do you have an offer
of proof, Counselor?
748
00:39:27,661 --> 00:39:29,856
Why don't we just
go to the record?
749
00:39:34,382 --> 00:39:35,906
Mr. Stone.
750
00:39:40,848 --> 00:39:42,543
Go ahead, Mr. Anson.
751
00:39:42,512 --> 00:39:43,570
Mr. Kay,
752
00:39:43,570 --> 00:39:48,098
under the name
Edward M. Kayman...
753
00:39:47,954 --> 00:39:50,320
you were convicted
754
00:39:50,259 --> 00:39:52,284
of possession
of a controlled substance
755
00:39:52,243 --> 00:39:55,644
in the state of Connecticut
in 1984?
756
00:39:59,669 --> 00:40:03,605
In fact, it was cocaine,
was it not?
757
00:40:06,647 --> 00:40:08,877
Answer the question,
Mr. Kay.
758
00:40:10,168 --> 00:40:12,136
Yes.
759
00:40:12,088 --> 00:40:14,454
And then later you
legally changed your name
760
00:40:14,394 --> 00:40:16,487
to Ned Kay, didn't you?
761
00:40:16,473 --> 00:40:18,464
Yes.
762
00:40:19,931 --> 00:40:23,765
Do you still use cocaine, Mr. Kay?
763
00:40:26,204 --> 00:40:28,263
I respectfully
764
00:40:28,221 --> 00:40:31,054
refuse to answer on the...
765
00:40:30,974 --> 00:40:32,635
Are you invoking
the Fifth Amendment
766
00:40:32,606 --> 00:40:34,631
against self-incrimination?
767
00:40:34,590 --> 00:40:36,490
Yes, sir.
768
00:40:36,447 --> 00:40:38,608
Did you pay for cocaine
769
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:41,323
out of any of the $300,000
770
00:40:41,248 --> 00:40:43,773
that you stole
from Mr. Ingrams?
771
00:40:43,712 --> 00:40:47,045
I respectfully refuse
to answer for the same reason.
772
00:40:46,946 --> 00:40:49,414
You refuse to answer.
773
00:40:50,850 --> 00:40:52,750
But you expect us to believe
774
00:40:52,708 --> 00:40:55,176
that Mr. Ingrams
threatened to kill you.
775
00:40:55,108 --> 00:40:57,167
Objection, Your Honor.
Sustained.
776
00:40:57,124 --> 00:40:59,183
The jury will disregard
that remark.
777
00:40:59,141 --> 00:41:01,234
No further questions.
778
00:41:05,927 --> 00:41:10,387
So after Mr. Ingrams told you to air
out the dude's crib, what did you do?
779
00:41:10,247 --> 00:41:12,977
I went up on the roof
and smoked some weed.
780
00:41:12,905 --> 00:41:14,634
Then I got the gun
from my stash.
781
00:41:14,601 --> 00:41:16,034
Which was where?
782
00:41:16,009 --> 00:41:17,977
In my locker in school.
783
00:41:17,929 --> 00:41:19,191
In school.
784
00:41:20,683 --> 00:41:23,243
And you rented this gun
from Dizz Williams, right?
785
00:41:24,684 --> 00:41:26,515
Then what did you do?
786
00:41:26,476 --> 00:41:28,444
I smoked a little more weed,
787
00:41:28,396 --> 00:41:31,422
then I went over to do the dude.
788
00:41:31,341 --> 00:41:33,502
Which was supposed to be
789
00:41:33,454 --> 00:41:35,649
315 Jameson Place.
790
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:37,464
Now you knew that
791
00:41:37,423 --> 00:41:40,153
because Michael Ingrams
792
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:41,910
wrote it out for you,
is that true?
793
00:41:41,872 --> 00:41:43,271
Yes.
794
00:41:43,248 --> 00:41:47,651
And why did you go
to 315 Jacobs Place?
795
00:41:49,554 --> 00:41:52,114
Answer the question,
Mr. Howard.
796
00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:54,917
It was a mistake.
797
00:41:54,835 --> 00:41:57,861
This is the correct address.
798
00:41:58,805 --> 00:42:01,137
Would you read that out
to the court, please?
799
00:42:02,134 --> 00:42:04,432
"315
800
00:42:04,374 --> 00:42:05,898
Jameson Place."
801
00:42:05,879 --> 00:42:07,278
Right.
802
00:42:07,254 --> 00:42:08,949
Nowwould you read this?
803
00:42:11,032 --> 00:42:13,626
Objection.
Relevance, Your Honor.
804
00:42:13,561 --> 00:42:15,688
It goes to the factual elements
805
00:42:15,641 --> 00:42:17,074
of the crime charged,
Your Honor.
806
00:42:17,050 --> 00:42:18,881
I'll allow it.
807
00:42:18,842 --> 00:42:20,935
Just read the police report.
808
00:42:20,891 --> 00:42:22,950
You don't have to read
the big legal words,
809
00:42:22,907 --> 00:42:25,671
just give us the easy ones.
810
00:42:33,054 --> 00:42:34,715
Mr. Howard?
811
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:40,823
You can't read, can you?
812
00:42:46,433 --> 00:42:48,594
You can't read anything.
813
00:42:49,762 --> 00:42:51,593
No.
814
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:04,209
No further questions.
815
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,748
Gregory winters is a victim.
816
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,649
His mother Denise winters
is a victim as well.
817
00:43:15,561 --> 00:43:17,358
And to a lesser extent,
818
00:43:17,321 --> 00:43:19,186
Franklin "T-Ball" Howard
819
00:43:19,146 --> 00:43:20,738
is a victim, too.
820
00:43:20,714 --> 00:43:22,875
A victim of circumstance,
821
00:43:22,826 --> 00:43:25,795
in which he learned
how to fire a deadly weapon
822
00:43:25,707 --> 00:43:27,800
before he learned to read.
823
00:43:28,717 --> 00:43:31,015
Then, of course,
there is Andrew winters,
824
00:43:30,956 --> 00:43:34,119
who would have celebrated
his first birthday
825
00:43:34,030 --> 00:43:35,691
not long ago.
826
00:43:35,662 --> 00:43:37,562
Now,
827
00:43:37,518 --> 00:43:39,577
maybe we've all become
so accustomed
828
00:43:39,535 --> 00:43:41,298
to slaughter in our streets,
829
00:43:41,263 --> 00:43:43,288
in the subways,
and our homes...
830
00:43:44,304 --> 00:43:46,397
that it takes the killing
of a baby
831
00:43:46,353 --> 00:43:48,184
to snap us out of it.
832
00:43:48,145 --> 00:43:49,942
I don't know.
833
00:43:49,905 --> 00:43:53,170
What I do know is that
when Michael Ingrams
834
00:43:53,075 --> 00:43:55,543
ordered the contract killing
of Ned Kay,
835
00:43:55,475 --> 00:43:57,966
he was ordering
the killing of Andrew winters.
836
00:43:59,093 --> 00:44:01,823
And it doesn't matter
that the wrong person was hit...
837
00:44:03,798 --> 00:44:06,289
Michael Ingrams' intent
was to kill.
838
00:44:07,094 --> 00:44:10,928
And legally,
intent follows the bullet.
839
00:44:11,799 --> 00:44:13,266
In the eyes of the law,
840
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:15,401
Michael Ingrams is
guilty of murder.
841
00:44:16,377 --> 00:44:18,038
In the eyes of society,
842
00:44:18,009 --> 00:44:19,533
he is guilty
843
00:44:19,514 --> 00:44:21,448
of the slaughter of an innocent.
844
00:44:27,355 --> 00:44:30,153
Mr. Stone, do you think
the murder conviction
845
00:44:30,077 --> 00:44:31,510
will stand on appeal?
846
00:44:31,485 --> 00:44:33,578
Absolutely. There's no
reversible error here.
847
00:44:33,533 --> 00:44:35,592
Michael Ingrams is as guilty
of killing that little boy
848
00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:37,609
as if he'd pulled
the trigger himself.
849
00:44:40,863 --> 00:44:42,660
Mrs. winters,
850
00:44:42,623 --> 00:44:45,558
were you satisfied
with today's verdict?
851
00:44:47,969 --> 00:44:49,698
I'm thinking,
852
00:44:49,666 --> 00:44:53,124
what about the boy
who did pull the trigger?
853
00:44:53,026 --> 00:44:56,018
He'll be back out j in seven years.
854
00:44:56,964 --> 00:44:59,558
My baby would have been
eight years old then.
855
00:45:00,612 --> 00:45:02,876
Would you be satisfied?
856
00:45:02,926 --> 00:45:07,476
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