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Narrator:. In the criminal justice
system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet
equally important groups-
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the police
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Protesters: Don't kill your
baby! Abortion is a sin.
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Don't kill your baby!
Abortion is a sin.
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Don't kill your baby!
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Abortion is a sin...
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Do they ever get bored?
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The True Believers?
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Not on your life.
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.. Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies!
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies!
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Abortion is a sin!
Don't kill your babies...
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woman: Past 24 weeks?
We can't help you.
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well, I'm not sure.
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Okay...
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fill this out and you
can see the nurse.
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women's Choices.
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God, not again.
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So my father says,
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"If you weren't a cop
you would get a husband.
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who told you to be a cop?"
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My mother says,
"I told her to be a cop
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so she wouldn't worry
about getting a husband. "
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You could always marry me.
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You're not what my father
had in mind.
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Radio: 29 Adam,
respond to 312 West 19th
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Chelsea Women's Choices
regarding bomb threat; advise.
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we are at that location
and will advise further.
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Man:
Come on, let's go.
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Easy, easy, easy.
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Don't panic.
It will be all right.
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Take it easy.
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Out now!
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That's everybody.
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Man:
Come on, let's go.
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Officer:.
Stay behind the barrier.
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I'm asking if you saw anybody
carrying something-
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knapsack, package,
a large bag-
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anything out of the ordinary.
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Max: Yo!
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Good morning, Vietnam.
what do we got?
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Your garden-variety lunatic
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blowing up a room
with a lot of ladies in it.
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The bomb.
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Your basic type.
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Fertilizer and diesel?
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You got it. Amateur hour.
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The only thing I like more
than a bomber is an amateur bomber.
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Timer?
Quartz alarm clock.
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Straight out of
"The Revolutionary Cookbook. "
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If that's the main course,
I can't wait to see dessert.
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Yeah, well, there won't be
any dessert for this one.
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Student ID.
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"University of Manhattan. "
Sandra Turner.
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21-22, maybe.
She was in the bathroom.
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was she here for an abortion?
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Doesn't play that way.
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She didn't sign in.
Nobody saw her.
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It looks like she was
the delivery girl,
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but she didn't get out
quick enough.
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Put her right through the wall.
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we get calls all the time-
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false alarms, but still
we get everybody out.
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Did you recognize the voice
on the phone before?
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She only said "bomb. "
How could I recognize her voice?
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what about the girl
in the bathroom- Turner?
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Did she fill out a form?
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No way. I didn't see her.
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She wasn't a patient.
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They can't wait to talk
to somebody.
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She must have carried
the bomb in.
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what is wrong
with these people?
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Sooner or later,
it had to happen.
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As long as the courts
refuse to act against abortion,
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there are going
to be individuals-
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Are you defending these nuts?
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Come on.
This ain't lone justice.
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It's a conspiracy.
They can't stop abortion
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through the courts,
so they'll bomb a few clinics.
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we don't know that.
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we don't? I don't remember
reading anything
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about a cellular phone
in the bathroom.
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Somebody called in a warning.
Two people make a conspiracy.
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Look, all I'm saying is
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I understand
why they're frustrated.
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Max, a girl is dead.
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She was 22 years old.
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Tell them to write their congressman,
not throw bombs.
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I'm only saying they believe
in something and they're angry.
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They're angry? So they send
a girl in there with a bomb?
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In my book that is
not frustration, that's murder.
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Eight bombings
in the last seven months,
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all of them at night.
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None of them happened
in the daytime.
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Nobody was hurt before either.
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we've got six active
anti-abortion protest groups
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with offices in Manhattan.
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Let's see if the ME's
got an ID,
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then we'll start on these.
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whatever she used
did a real job on her.
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Anybody come to ID her?
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Nah.
Logan: No prints?
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Epithelial layers gone.
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I could get better prints
from charcoal.
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You'll have a preliminary
report tomorrow,
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but there's not much doubt
about the COD.
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That's it?
Cash- no wallet?
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Just the university ID.
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Nobody on this student number.
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Logan:
Try Tumer, Sandra.
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we haven't had
six digit IDs in two years.
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Tumer, Samuel...
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Turner, Sheila...
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No Turner, Sandra.
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But this is
the university's card?
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No, it isn't.
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This picture is... glued on.
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It's a fake.
The real one's like a license,
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all one piece.
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Back to square one.
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Let's hit some of those
anti-abortion groups.
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0 for three. Number four
- "women for Life,"
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headed by
Rose Schwimmer.
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Our battle isn't about
restoring Central Park,
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or a 15C increase
in the subway fare,
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or separating cans and bottles
from our trash.
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It's about human life.
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Sometimes people go
out of bounds.
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Do you ever go out
of bounds?
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All the time.
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That's why I'm here.
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You're here
to break the law?.
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I'm here to stop
the murder of babies.
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Look, let's get this clear.
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Abortion is a right
in this country!
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That clinic was performing
a legal and medical procedure.
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They weren't murdering anything.
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Mrs. Schwimmer...
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a girl is dead.
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The clinic's just a couple
of minutes from here.
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I'm horrified
by what happened.
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But you sympathize,
don't you?
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I mean, with people
who bomb abortion clinics.
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I don't condone violence,
but I understand.
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Does a woman
named Sandra Turner
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belong to your group?
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would hand me
that folder there, please?
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we have over 2,000
active members.
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And a couple thousand more
come to our vigils,
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and send contributions.
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No Sandra Turner.
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Where were you
when the bomb went off?
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why?
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People from your group
were picketing that day.
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Am I a suspect, Detective?
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Lazy Jane's around the corner
having tea.
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I guess when you go against
the system the way we do,
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you're guilty
until proven innocent.
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She comes
every wednesday-
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Rose Schwimmer.
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She came in between
10:00 and 11:00.
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Are you sure of the time?
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why do you think
it's called Lazy Jane's?
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I don't get in until 10:00.
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So what?
She came right after you?
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15, 10:30.
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Her friend came in
a couple of minutes later.
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The friend a regular, too?
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Semi- a couple times a month.
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You know the look-
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Raggedy Ann
with a Bendel's charge card.
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She's a real pro-shopper.
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She had this big box with her.
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A box? She put right on the table.
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Can you believe that?
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I mean, it was
the size of a toaster oven.
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I put it on the chair.
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This isn't a dinner.
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watch- five years
they'll legalize drugs.
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Pfft! Maybe, maybe not.
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It's a great country, Max.
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You can do what you want,
when you want,
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with who you want.
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which means if a woman
wants an abortion,
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she can get one.
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Just because she was
careless enough
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to get knocked up
in the first place?
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what are you against,
abortions or sex?
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Abortions. I like sex.
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So a 17-year-old should louse up
her whole life by having a kid?
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17-year-olds shouldn't
be doing what makes babies.
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And crooks
shouldn't have guns.
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Get real. what they
should be is more careful.
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Kids aren't careful,
that's why they're kids.
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Mrs. Schwimmer didn't
mention that she had tea
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with Ms. Toaster Oven.
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I get it. Now every pro-life
protestor is a bomber.
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You agree with them,
don't you?
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Okay, Don Juan...
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any of your girlfriends
ever have an abortion?
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One ex-girlfriend, who's
now married with two kids-
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neither of them mine.
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I really don't have
time for this.
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I hate to bother you, but it
is weird that no one saw her.
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Really? If I was
planting a bomb,
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I'd sure try to be invisible.
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That's all the cards.
There's no Sandra Turner.
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I told you-
she didn't sign in.
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How much does
an abortion cost?
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$300.
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$300- the price
of a cheap mob hit.
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Hey, Max, look at that.
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Max: Yo! How many
did they take away?
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12, 15.
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Let's go to
the property clerk's office,
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and pick up
the dead girl's keys.
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we got two right here.
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Ooh! whoa!
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How sweet it is.
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I could get used
to driving this.
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On your salary you couldn't
afford the repairs.
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On my salary I couldn't
even afford the insurance.
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Bingo!
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"Chelsea women's
Choices Center. "
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Let's get the Crime Scene
Unit down here.
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Maybe we'll get lucky
and pull some prints.
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Yeah.
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Come on. Don't give
yourself an ulcer.
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422.
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Mr. Donovan?
Yes.
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Sergeant Greevey,
Detective Logan.
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when she didn't
come home last night
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we tried to file
a missing person report.
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They wouldn't take it.
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They said we had
to wait two days.
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Our Father
who art in heaven,
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hallowed be Thy name.
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Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done
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on earth as it is heaven.
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Give us this day
our daily bread,
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and forgive us, we forgive
those who trespass against us.
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You daughter, did she belong
to a right-to-life group?
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The thing about Mary-
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she loves kids.
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That's why she teaches.
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Did Mary ever mention
women for Life?
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Mr. Donovan: She was sympathetic
to their work, ideals.
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we all are. Did anyone call
the school and tell them that-
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Mary wouldn't be in
today? It's okay, Barbara.
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Couldn't Mary have,
without your knowledge-
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Mary didn't keep
secrets from us.
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we know how hard it is,
256
00:14:06,342 --> 00:14:08,310
but we'd like to look
at Mary's room.
257
00:14:08,262 --> 00:14:11,425
Mary has a thing
about privacy.
258
00:14:11,334 --> 00:14:12,892
Barbara...
259
00:14:12,870 --> 00:14:16,738
it doesn't matter if
they go into her room now.
260
00:14:20,489 --> 00:14:22,116
"The Lives of The Saints. "
261
00:14:23,145 --> 00:14:25,204
22 years old.
262
00:14:25,161 --> 00:14:28,153
who sends a kid
to deliver a bomb?
263
00:14:30,187 --> 00:14:32,052
Maybe it was
her own idea.
264
00:14:32,011 --> 00:14:33,979
Yeah?
265
00:14:33,932 --> 00:14:35,900
who taught her how
to make one?
266
00:14:35,852 --> 00:14:37,843
whoever it was,
267
00:14:37,804 --> 00:14:39,829
they should have
taught her about timers.
268
00:14:39,789 --> 00:14:42,656
The mother seems to be
taking it pretty hard.
269
00:14:42,574 --> 00:14:44,542
It's gonna take awhile.
270
00:14:44,494 --> 00:14:47,361
what? To realize
that her daughter is dead?
271
00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:49,611
To realize
she didn't die with her.
272
00:14:49,551 --> 00:14:53,578
The father doesn't seem
to be having that problem.
273
00:14:53,455 --> 00:14:54,979
That's because...
274
00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,928
he didn't lose a daughter,
275
00:14:56,881 --> 00:14:58,872
he gained a martyr.
276
00:15:01,874 --> 00:15:03,307
Hey.
277
00:15:04,210 --> 00:15:07,577
Looks like the brother owns
a lumber company.
278
00:15:08,595 --> 00:15:11,120
Lumber- construction.
279
00:15:11,060 --> 00:15:13,722
Construction- explosives.
280
00:15:14,932 --> 00:15:17,594
Anything you can tell us
about Mary's friends,
281
00:15:17,525 --> 00:15:20,050
teachers she was close to?
282
00:15:20,854 --> 00:15:24,085
My father...
283
00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:27,289
poured himself a cup
of coffee this morning.
284
00:15:27,191 --> 00:15:29,921
Put in milk, sugar,
walked over to the sink,
285
00:15:29,848 --> 00:15:31,816
poured it down the drain.
286
00:15:31,768 --> 00:15:34,236
He didn't knowwhat
the hell he was doing.
287
00:15:34,169 --> 00:15:37,229
I got on the West Side
Highway on my way here-
288
00:15:37,146 --> 00:15:39,114
I forgot to get off.
289
00:15:39,066 --> 00:15:41,694
went the whole way
to 96th Street.
290
00:15:43,163 --> 00:15:45,631
Just like that, I had a sister
291
00:15:45,563 --> 00:15:47,394
and now I don't.
292
00:15:48,412 --> 00:15:50,539
Is there only
the two of you?
293
00:15:50,493 --> 00:15:53,656
Mary always said
she would have a big family.
294
00:15:53,565 --> 00:15:57,001
what about these
anti-abortion groups?
295
00:15:56,894 --> 00:15:59,055
She loved kids.
296
00:15:59,006 --> 00:16:00,997
Did she belong
to any organized groups?
297
00:16:02,495 --> 00:16:03,621
Mr. Donovan,
298
00:16:03,615 --> 00:16:05,207
bombing is a felony.
299
00:16:05,184 --> 00:16:07,277
Fine! I think Mary's paid
for her crime in full,
300
00:16:07,232 --> 00:16:08,460
don't you, Detective?
301
00:16:08,448 --> 00:16:11,178
we don't happen to think
she was in this alone.
302
00:16:11,105 --> 00:16:13,073
Don't you want the people
303
00:16:13,026 --> 00:16:15,051
who helped to kill
your sister to pay, too?
304
00:16:16,675 --> 00:16:18,768
If she was
the member of a group,
305
00:16:18,723 --> 00:16:20,850
she never
mentioned it to me.
306
00:16:22,436 --> 00:16:25,098
They might know more at school-
Saint Aloysius.
307
00:16:27,141 --> 00:16:30,008
Some people take
a long time to grow up.
308
00:16:29,925 --> 00:16:31,051
Have a seat.
309
00:16:33,958 --> 00:16:37,894
They still believe
in hearts and flowers,
310
00:16:37,767 --> 00:16:39,962
and Mom never looks
at another guy-
311
00:16:39,912 --> 00:16:42,312
Dad doesn't cheat
on his income tax.
312
00:16:42,248 --> 00:16:46,582
For 22, Mary was... young.
313
00:16:46,441 --> 00:16:49,137
Young enough to let somebody
talk her into throwing a bomb?
314
00:16:50,089 --> 00:16:52,819
Gentlemen,
a parochial school like this-
315
00:16:52,746 --> 00:16:55,044
it's another century.
316
00:16:54,987 --> 00:16:56,750
Mary was a sweet kid.
317
00:16:56,715 --> 00:16:59,707
She believed the whole world
was parochial school,
318
00:16:59,628 --> 00:17:01,687
that all the problems
could be solved
319
00:17:01,644 --> 00:17:03,669
with pure thoughts
and a rosary.
320
00:17:03,629 --> 00:17:05,256
Logan: Did, uh...
321
00:17:05,229 --> 00:17:07,561
did you know she wasn't
gonna be here yesterday?
322
00:17:07,502 --> 00:17:08,935
Day off.
323
00:17:08,910 --> 00:17:10,275
Regular day off?
324
00:17:11,247 --> 00:17:13,511
No. Do you know
how hard it is
325
00:17:13,455 --> 00:17:15,082
to get good teachers
these days?
326
00:17:15,055 --> 00:17:17,353
They ask for a day off,
they get it.
327
00:17:17,296 --> 00:17:20,231
Did she happen
to tell you why?
328
00:17:20,145 --> 00:17:22,113
well, she had been upset.
329
00:17:22,065 --> 00:17:24,659
I figured it was her boyfriend,
Patrick Dunn.
330
00:17:24,594 --> 00:17:27,654
He teaches here,
eighth grade Latin.
331
00:17:27,570 --> 00:17:30,038
Last week they had
an argument in the hallway
332
00:17:29,970 --> 00:17:31,437
in front of the kids.
333
00:17:31,411 --> 00:17:34,847
I had to tell them "This is not
appropriate behavior. "
334
00:17:34,740 --> 00:17:36,765
She shouldn't have been there.
335
00:17:37,652 --> 00:17:38,880
It's crazy.
336
00:17:38,868 --> 00:17:40,597
So, Patrick...
337
00:17:40,565 --> 00:17:44,365
this fight you had last week,
what was that all about?
338
00:17:44,246 --> 00:17:46,737
Some article in "The Times. "
339
00:17:46,679 --> 00:17:49,807
Connecticut's abortion law...
340
00:17:49,719 --> 00:17:51,778
Mary hated abortion.
341
00:17:51,736 --> 00:17:53,101
Hated it.
342
00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,570
You?
343
00:17:54,552 --> 00:17:56,281
why?
344
00:17:58,777 --> 00:18:01,541
Personally,
I think it's a sin,
345
00:18:01,465 --> 00:18:03,433
and I think it's immoral.
346
00:18:03,386 --> 00:18:05,081
But I live in the real world.
347
00:18:06,491 --> 00:18:10,018
Did she ever mention a woman
named Rose Schwimmer?
348
00:18:11,196 --> 00:18:13,221
women for Life.
349
00:18:13,180 --> 00:18:15,648
Everyone knows who she is.
350
00:18:15,581 --> 00:18:19,278
If you're asking whether
I carry false identification, Detective,
351
00:18:19,166 --> 00:18:20,793
the answer is no.
352
00:18:20,766 --> 00:18:22,495
I'm proud of what I do.
353
00:18:22,463 --> 00:18:24,363
Anybody in your group
have any?
354
00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:26,310
Please.
Thank you.
355
00:18:28,256 --> 00:18:30,247
This movement attracts
356
00:18:30,208 --> 00:18:32,199
deeply committed individuals.
357
00:18:33,409 --> 00:18:35,104
They get arrested.
358
00:18:36,193 --> 00:18:38,957
Some carry false identification
and jump bail.
359
00:18:38,882 --> 00:18:40,509
And Mary Donovan?
360
00:18:40,482 --> 00:18:43,178
Obviously, deeply committed.
361
00:18:43,107 --> 00:18:45,302
But you didn't even know her.
362
00:18:45,252 --> 00:18:47,584
No, I didn't.
363
00:18:48,772 --> 00:18:51,138
But what I do know is
Mary Donovan,
364
00:18:51,076 --> 00:18:55,172
whoever she was,
sacrificed herself to save the unborn.
365
00:18:55,046 --> 00:18:57,344
Hundreds of them.
366
00:18:57,286 --> 00:18:59,379
I don't approve
of her methods,
367
00:18:59,334 --> 00:19:01,495
but I applaud her results.
368
00:19:01,447 --> 00:19:04,348
The day of the bombing
when you had brunch,
369
00:19:04,263 --> 00:19:07,027
you didn't mention
someone else being there...
370
00:19:06,952 --> 00:19:10,046
who happened to be carrying
a large package.
371
00:19:12,394 --> 00:19:14,988
This morning I had breakfast
with my sister.
372
00:19:14,922 --> 00:19:17,186
She carried an umbrella.
373
00:19:17,131 --> 00:19:18,826
I didn't tell you that either.
374
00:19:18,795 --> 00:19:21,093
we're just trying
to do our job here.
375
00:19:21,036 --> 00:19:24,062
we have to verify alibis.
376
00:19:23,980 --> 00:19:26,005
I had brunch
with an associate,
377
00:19:25,964 --> 00:19:27,659
Celeste McClure.
378
00:19:29,774 --> 00:19:31,799
Um, this Ms. McClure,
379
00:19:31,757 --> 00:19:33,725
you knowwhere
we can find her?
380
00:19:33,678 --> 00:19:35,305
Today?
381
00:19:35,279 --> 00:19:37,270
Probably at
the community garden,
382
00:19:37,231 --> 00:19:38,926
near the stables
on 89th Street.
383
00:19:38,895 --> 00:19:41,363
Just came from the printer.
384
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,975
Great, isn't it?
385
00:19:46,065 --> 00:19:48,033
It's wonderful.
386
00:19:49,201 --> 00:19:51,192
Depends on what
you're selling.
387
00:19:53,427 --> 00:19:55,258
You're mistaken, Detective.
388
00:19:55,219 --> 00:19:56,846
I didn't know Mary Donovan.
389
00:19:56,820 --> 00:19:59,118
But I wish I had.
390
00:19:59,060 --> 00:20:02,223
what she did
makes me proud.
391
00:20:02,132 --> 00:20:03,827
Throwing a bomb?
392
00:20:03,796 --> 00:20:06,560
Innocent people
could have been killed.
393
00:20:06,485 --> 00:20:08,510
In that building
394
00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:11,234
before Mary Donovan
threw that bomb
395
00:20:11,159 --> 00:20:14,219
unborn babies were
being killed every day.
396
00:20:14,135 --> 00:20:17,502
At Lazy Jane's, when you had
brunch with Rose Schwimmer,
397
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,129
what was in the box
you had?
398
00:20:19,096 --> 00:20:21,462
Leaflets...
399
00:20:21,401 --> 00:20:22,698
for protestors.
400
00:20:22,681 --> 00:20:25,707
I'm trying to save lives.
You're supposed to save lives.
401
00:20:25,626 --> 00:20:26,923
we're investigating-
402
00:20:26,906 --> 00:20:30,034
A woman who gave her life
in the only cause that counts!
403
00:20:29,947 --> 00:20:32,745
Nobody's-
You wear a wedding ring.
404
00:20:32,667 --> 00:20:34,532
Do you have children?
405
00:20:35,420 --> 00:20:38,548
would you want your daughter
or your wife
406
00:20:38,461 --> 00:20:40,656
to have an abortion?
407
00:20:40,605 --> 00:20:42,266
No.
408
00:20:42,238 --> 00:20:45,173
But I wouldn't want them
tossing bombs either.
409
00:20:47,999 --> 00:20:49,967
If you don't have
any more questions,
410
00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:51,910
I have work to do.
411
00:20:59,234 --> 00:21:01,065
Hmm, ammonium nitrate.
412
00:21:01,026 --> 00:21:04,462
Now, all she needs
is the diesel fuel.
413
00:21:04,354 --> 00:21:07,846
Hey, you know, that's a good question she
asked about your daughter.
414
00:21:07,747 --> 00:21:09,578
Suppose some boyfriend
knocked her up?
415
00:21:09,540 --> 00:21:13,067
Look! we are not
investigating my daughter,
416
00:21:12,964 --> 00:21:15,762
my sex life with my wife,
or my opinions on contraception.
417
00:21:15,685 --> 00:21:18,483
we are investigating the bombing
of an abortion clinic.
418
00:21:18,405 --> 00:21:20,703
Let's just stick to the job,
all right?
419
00:21:25,639 --> 00:21:27,607
Peterson's 121 nitrate.
420
00:21:27,559 --> 00:21:29,823
where did you get that?
421
00:21:29,768 --> 00:21:31,793
what, I don't look like I have
a green thumb to you?
422
00:21:31,752 --> 00:21:33,720
You must be one hell
of a gardener.
423
00:21:33,673 --> 00:21:35,698
Do you grow palm trees
in your backyard?
424
00:21:35,657 --> 00:21:37,625
This stuff is
for tropical plants.
425
00:21:37,578 --> 00:21:38,806
New York?
426
00:21:38,794 --> 00:21:40,785
A big item in Hawaii.
427
00:21:46,795 --> 00:21:49,059
Quite a record
Mrs. Schwimmer's got here.
428
00:21:49,005 --> 00:21:53,305
Trespassing,
disturbing the peace...
429
00:21:53,165 --> 00:21:55,292
harassment.
430
00:21:55,245 --> 00:21:57,736
For such a non-violent person
431
00:21:57,678 --> 00:21:59,509
she sure does get around.
432
00:21:59,471 --> 00:22:02,304
I've seen armed robbers
who've got shorter rap sheets than this.
433
00:22:02,223 --> 00:22:05,989
McClure's got nothing but
a dismissed trespass.
434
00:22:05,872 --> 00:22:09,467
It's a big step from there
to armed robbery.
435
00:22:09,393 --> 00:22:11,486
Yeah, well, Donovan's
completely clean.
436
00:22:11,442 --> 00:22:13,273
She doesn't even have
a traffic ticket.
437
00:22:13,233 --> 00:22:15,861
But she was willing to go
all the way up to arson and murder
438
00:22:15,795 --> 00:22:17,660
even with Mr. Clean
for her boyfriend.
439
00:22:17,619 --> 00:22:21,385
The methods are wrong,
but they're trying to prevent murder.
440
00:22:21,267 --> 00:22:22,427
Spare me the rhetoric.
441
00:22:22,420 --> 00:22:24,786
I don't consider abortion murder.
442
00:22:24,724 --> 00:22:27,158
If a woman wants one,
that's her right to choose-
443
00:22:27,093 --> 00:22:30,927
not yours, not mine and certainly not Ms.
Rose Schwimmer.
444
00:22:30,806 --> 00:22:32,364
I don't care what you believe,
445
00:22:32,342 --> 00:22:36,403
trying to prevent abortions
by bombing goes way too far.
446
00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:38,440
I don't even know how
you can sit here and defend it.
447
00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:40,416
You and I both know
they didn't mean to hurt anybody!
448
00:22:40,376 --> 00:22:42,776
No, I don't know that, okay?!
449
00:22:42,712 --> 00:22:45,306
Only an idiot thinks
bombs don't hurt people.
450
00:22:45,241 --> 00:22:46,538
Come on,
tell me more!
451
00:22:46,521 --> 00:22:48,284
Lab report just came in.
452
00:22:48,249 --> 00:22:50,444
Fertilizer's a match
on the bomb
453
00:22:50,394 --> 00:22:52,419
and they got a bunch
of good latent prints on the bag-
454
00:22:52,379 --> 00:22:54,006
all the same woman.
455
00:22:53,979 --> 00:22:56,277
And they're a match for the parcel
on the bomb fragment.
456
00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:59,917
If you two could manage
not to kill each other
457
00:22:59,804 --> 00:23:03,535
maybe you could pick up McClure
and see if her prints match.
458
00:23:11,615 --> 00:23:13,810
we're not saying
it's a slam dunk.
459
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,025
Slam dunk? A bag of fertilizer
and a couple of prints?
460
00:23:16,928 --> 00:23:18,225
Right now,
I'd have a hard time
461
00:23:18,209 --> 00:23:20,302
of convicting Celeste McClure
of bad gardening.
462
00:23:20,257 --> 00:23:22,225
I'm trying to make this work
beyond just an indictment.
463
00:23:22,177 --> 00:23:23,667
You don't like it?
Don't file.
464
00:23:23,649 --> 00:23:25,514
That's just fine with me.
465
00:23:25,474 --> 00:23:28,238
Are you in favor
of people planting bombs, Sergeant?
466
00:23:28,163 --> 00:23:29,824
Careful, Counselor.
467
00:23:29,794 --> 00:23:32,786
All I'm saying is that
these women are true believers.
468
00:23:32,708 --> 00:23:36,075
And so far, they've hurt no one
but each other.
469
00:23:35,972 --> 00:23:38,133
Yeah. Talk about dumb luck.
470
00:23:40,613 --> 00:23:42,604
Gentlemen.
471
00:23:47,334 --> 00:23:50,098
McClure made the bomb.
Donovan muled it.
472
00:23:50,023 --> 00:23:51,388
Schwimmer ordered it.
473
00:23:51,367 --> 00:23:52,994
You want my advice?
474
00:23:52,968 --> 00:23:54,731
Offer McClure a plea.
She'll take it.
475
00:23:54,697 --> 00:23:56,688
She wants to be a martyr.
476
00:23:58,377 --> 00:24:01,403
Man:
Celeste McClure, the charges are
477
00:24:01,322 --> 00:24:02,914
conspiracy in the third degree,
478
00:24:02,890 --> 00:24:05,188
reckless endangerment
in the second degree,
479
00:24:05,131 --> 00:24:07,497
arson in the second degree.
480
00:24:07,436 --> 00:24:09,870
How does the defendant
plead on the first count?
481
00:24:09,804 --> 00:24:11,772
Not guilty on all counts,
Your Honor.
482
00:24:11,724 --> 00:24:14,284
we request release of the
defendant on her own recognizance.
483
00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:16,188
Based upon what, Mr. Ballard?
484
00:24:16,141 --> 00:24:18,871
These are two serious
felony charges here.
485
00:24:18,798 --> 00:24:21,494
Based on the fact that this
is a political prosecution.
486
00:24:21,423 --> 00:24:24,449
You're not on trial yet,
Counselor.
487
00:24:24,367 --> 00:24:26,335
Your Honor,
if it please the court,
488
00:24:26,288 --> 00:24:29,052
Ms. McClure is a young woman
with no previous criminal record
489
00:24:28,976 --> 00:24:30,466
and close ties to the community.
490
00:24:30,448 --> 00:24:32,006
Mr. Stone?
491
00:24:31,985 --> 00:24:34,783
The People have no objection
to minimum bail, Your Honor.
492
00:24:34,705 --> 00:24:38,232
Then bail is set at $10,000
cash or bond.
493
00:24:38,130 --> 00:24:39,654
Short date.
494
00:24:42,099 --> 00:24:44,226
Ballard:
Thanks for the bail recommendation.
495
00:24:44,179 --> 00:24:45,476
Stone:
Not at all, sir.
496
00:24:45,460 --> 00:24:47,087
Martyrs don't run.
497
00:24:47,060 --> 00:24:49,358
Ballard: How can you allow
yourself to be used like this?
498
00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:52,463
If you're gonna stick your finger
in my eye, Mr. Ballard,
499
00:24:52,373 --> 00:24:54,398
clean your own nails first.
500
00:24:54,358 --> 00:24:56,451
It seems to me the only reason
for this prosecution
501
00:24:56,407 --> 00:24:58,807
is to make the right-to-life
movement look bad.
502
00:24:58,742 --> 00:25:00,369
That'll get you
in the papers,
503
00:25:00,343 --> 00:25:02,436
but it won't help your client
and it's not true.
504
00:25:02,391 --> 00:25:04,882
McClure didn't plant
that bomb,
505
00:25:04,824 --> 00:25:05,916
Mary Donovan did.
506
00:25:05,912 --> 00:25:07,243
McClure made the bomb.
507
00:25:07,224 --> 00:25:09,624
The best you can get,
if you believe she's guilty-
508
00:25:09,561 --> 00:25:11,358
j j conspiracy six, arson four.
509
00:25:11,321 --> 00:25:13,949
Are you accusing me
of filing inflated charges?
510
00:25:13,882 --> 00:25:16,373
I'm only saying you're gonna
cost the state a lot of money
511
00:25:16,315 --> 00:25:18,283
merely to get her
on probation.
512
00:25:18,235 --> 00:25:21,170
If probation will keep a bomb out of
that woman's hands, it's worth the money.
513
00:25:21,083 --> 00:25:22,812
These people aren't
criminals.
514
00:25:22,780 --> 00:25:24,941
what are they,
Mary Poppins, Mother Teresa?
515
00:25:24,893 --> 00:25:27,760
They are exercising their right
of free speech.
516
00:25:27,677 --> 00:25:30,111
Throwing a bomb
is a little non-verbal
517
00:25:30,046 --> 00:25:32,207
to qualify as speech, sir.
518
00:25:33,118 --> 00:25:35,518
Are you sure you don't want
to recuse yourself?
519
00:25:35,455 --> 00:25:37,184
That's insulting.
520
00:25:37,151 --> 00:25:40,348
I'm personally against abortion
means I can't prosecute a bomber?
521
00:25:40,256 --> 00:25:42,121
what I believe doesn't matter.
522
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,479
I represent the law.
523
00:25:43,457 --> 00:25:44,981
Amazing.
524
00:25:44,961 --> 00:25:47,452
I'm getting angry.
525
00:25:47,394 --> 00:25:50,363
The most emotional issue
526
00:25:50,274 --> 00:25:53,869
that the law has dealt with
since suffrage.
527
00:25:53,763 --> 00:25:56,129
Look at us. Three men...
528
00:25:56,067 --> 00:25:59,230
talking about what rights
women should have
529
00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:00,767
over their own bodies.
530
00:26:00,741 --> 00:26:03,505
Doesn't that strike you
as a little one-sided?
531
00:26:03,429 --> 00:26:05,056
Adam, I have already told you
532
00:26:05,030 --> 00:26:08,989
my personal feelings have no impact on
my ability to prosecute a criminal case.
533
00:26:08,871 --> 00:26:12,204
And I have never said that a woman
does not have the right to choose.
534
00:26:12,103 --> 00:26:14,128
Adam:
Fine. Wonderful.
535
00:26:14,087 --> 00:26:18,148
Are you feeling shaky
on that conspiracy charge?
536
00:26:18,025 --> 00:26:21,461
You better tie the bomb maker
to the bomber
537
00:26:21,353 --> 00:26:23,321
with a little more than
what you got there.
538
00:26:23,274 --> 00:26:25,265
we prove McClure
made the bomb,
539
00:26:25,226 --> 00:26:26,784
Donovan delivered it.
540
00:26:26,763 --> 00:26:28,196
what about Schwimmer?
541
00:26:28,171 --> 00:26:29,934
That's flimsy.
542
00:26:29,899 --> 00:26:32,891
And it's risky. we tie her into
the picture, it doesn't work-
543
00:26:32,812 --> 00:26:35,178
I wouldn't go even for an indictment
with what we got now.
544
00:26:35,116 --> 00:26:38,882
But? It is a conspiracy,
and I want to make it stick!
545
00:26:38,765 --> 00:26:40,460
Forensics ever send over
a print report?
546
00:26:40,429 --> 00:26:41,862
Finally. There's another
set of prints
547
00:26:41,837 --> 00:26:44,465
along with Mary Donovan's
on that counterfeit ID card.
548
00:26:44,398 --> 00:26:46,366
we don't figure out
who they belong to,
549
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:48,685
Ballard will say someone else
was in league with Mary.
550
00:26:48,623 --> 00:26:50,921
Get a print work-up
on everybody who knew her.
551
00:26:50,864 --> 00:26:52,695
You argue with Schiff
a lot on this.
552
00:26:52,656 --> 00:26:55,284
Yeah. Do you agree with him?
That's not an issue for me.
553
00:26:55,217 --> 00:26:57,344
I'm not for abortion,
I'm for birth control.
554
00:26:57,297 --> 00:26:59,595
I got your fertilizer.
Make me happy.
555
00:26:59,537 --> 00:27:02,005
McClure bought one bag
from the same supplier
556
00:27:01,938 --> 00:27:03,906
who sells to
the community garden.
557
00:27:03,859 --> 00:27:06,191
Ordered it herself. She
didn't happen to sign...?
558
00:27:07,411 --> 00:27:09,402
You just made me
very happy.
559
00:27:10,324 --> 00:27:12,758
The only deal
we're interested in
560
00:27:12,693 --> 00:27:14,991
is you drop everything.
Don't even go to the grand jury.
561
00:27:14,933 --> 00:27:17,561
Put your emotions in your briefcase
for a couple of minutes.
562
00:27:17,494 --> 00:27:19,860
This case is about emotion.
563
00:27:19,798 --> 00:27:22,460
I hope you know your law
better than that, Mr. Ballard.
564
00:27:22,391 --> 00:27:23,949
I know juries are
swayed by it.
565
00:27:23,927 --> 00:27:26,054
It's your gamble, Mr. Ballard.
566
00:27:27,192 --> 00:27:30,923
Ms. McClure, you and Mary Donovan
bombed a clinic.
567
00:27:30,808 --> 00:27:33,333
Mary Donovan is dead
and you're not.
568
00:27:43,259 --> 00:27:45,887
She's a nice, young lady.
She made a mistake.
569
00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:49,187
I hope you're not going to let her
take the fall all by herself.
570
00:27:49,085 --> 00:27:51,553
All she has to do is
name who ordered it.
571
00:27:51,485 --> 00:27:54,921
It doesn't matter
what happens to me.
572
00:27:54,814 --> 00:27:57,180
The babies matter.
573
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,418
Arson in the second degree
is a class "B" felony.
574
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,982
I assume Mr. Ballard told you
the sentence if you're convicted?
575
00:28:03,872 --> 00:28:05,305
Six years in jail.
576
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,407
Six years in prison,
Ms. McClure.
577
00:28:09,313 --> 00:28:11,781
May we leave now,
Mr. Ballard?
578
00:28:22,501 --> 00:28:24,264
23 years old.
579
00:28:24,228 --> 00:28:27,197
She can't even imagine
what six years of hard time is like.
580
00:28:27,109 --> 00:28:29,236
Somebody's using her.
581
00:28:29,189 --> 00:28:30,520
Schwimmer?
582
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:33,398
An hour ago, I didn't know,
583
00:28:33,351 --> 00:28:34,978
but now, even money.
584
00:28:34,951 --> 00:28:37,215
Still, it usually doesn't
work this way.
585
00:28:37,159 --> 00:28:39,787
Usually the criminal
doesn't want to go to jail.
586
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,880
McClure does.
587
00:28:40,872 --> 00:28:43,636
She'll become a martyr.
She'll never give up on Schwimmer.
588
00:28:43,561 --> 00:28:45,188
She won't give anybody.
589
00:28:45,161 --> 00:28:48,619
Except herself. It's about morality
for her, not legal compromise.
590
00:28:48,522 --> 00:28:50,490
So why don't we turn
this thing around?
591
00:28:50,443 --> 00:28:52,172
Let's try a reverse.
592
00:28:52,139 --> 00:28:55,597
I'm not part of any conspiracy,
Mr. Robinette.
593
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:57,468
You understand,
Ms. Schwimmer,
594
00:28:57,420 --> 00:29:00,389
we're going to request the maximum
sentence for Celeste McClure?
595
00:29:00,301 --> 00:29:02,792
You might ask your attorney
what that means.
596
00:29:02,733 --> 00:29:04,701
First you have to get
a conviction-
597
00:29:04,653 --> 00:29:06,678
with very thin evidence.
598
00:29:06,638 --> 00:29:09,038
Evidence we think
a jury will find convincing.
599
00:29:08,975 --> 00:29:11,671
Celeste McClure will
go to prison
600
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,567
for a long time.
601
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:16,852
Lawyer:. People in this
state would never forget her.
602
00:29:16,752 --> 00:29:19,721
Fine. Make her a martyr.
603
00:29:19,633 --> 00:29:22,864
But Celeste McClure is a young kid.
604
00:29:22,770 --> 00:29:25,762
Are you going to let her
rot behind bars?
605
00:29:26,610 --> 00:29:30,341
Rose, don't say anything
until we've talked.
606
00:29:30,227 --> 00:29:32,593
This meeting is over.
607
00:29:35,573 --> 00:29:37,598
Robinette: You never heard
their names mentioned?
608
00:29:37,556 --> 00:29:40,684
Schwimmer or McClure?
609
00:29:40,597 --> 00:29:42,224
Never.
610
00:29:42,198 --> 00:29:45,292
Anything you remember about
the day of the bombing?
611
00:29:45,207 --> 00:29:48,734
Anything you've thought about
since you talked with the police?
612
00:29:48,631 --> 00:29:51,828
Barbara: Mary said she
was taking the day off-
613
00:29:51,736 --> 00:29:53,795
shopping.
614
00:29:53,753 --> 00:29:57,245
Patrick, her boyfriend,
he came to drive her to school.
615
00:29:57,145 --> 00:30:00,740
They had an argument outside.
616
00:30:00,634 --> 00:30:02,898
Couples have arguments.
617
00:30:02,842 --> 00:30:04,810
It was serious enough, Jeffrey,
618
00:30:04,763 --> 00:30:06,424
for Kevin to try to break it up.
619
00:30:07,323 --> 00:30:10,087
Your son here
that early in the morning a lot?
620
00:30:10,012 --> 00:30:11,809
Jeffrey:
He stops by occasionally.
621
00:30:11,772 --> 00:30:13,399
Not that often.
622
00:30:13,373 --> 00:30:15,341
What was
the argument about?
623
00:30:15,294 --> 00:30:17,660
Something Patrick
had with him.
624
00:30:17,598 --> 00:30:19,293
Nothing.
625
00:30:19,262 --> 00:30:21,560
An envelope.
Nothing?
626
00:30:21,503 --> 00:30:23,494
So why did
we hear them yelling?
627
00:30:24,831 --> 00:30:27,061
Our daughter did
what she did
628
00:30:27,008 --> 00:30:29,568
out of her own conscience.
629
00:30:29,504 --> 00:30:31,972
we can live with that.
630
00:30:31,905 --> 00:30:33,497
You can live with that, Jeffrey!
631
00:30:33,473 --> 00:30:36,340
A martyr will never
be able to tell me
632
00:30:36,258 --> 00:30:39,022
what a wonderful day she had
at school yesterday.
633
00:30:38,947 --> 00:30:41,177
A martyr will never
have a wedding.
634
00:30:41,123 --> 00:30:43,284
A martyr will never
have children.
635
00:30:49,253 --> 00:30:51,221
I wanted to go
to Barbados.
636
00:30:51,174 --> 00:30:53,734
I brought her a brochure.
637
00:30:53,670 --> 00:30:55,661
I thought it would
convince her.
638
00:30:56,550 --> 00:30:58,381
That's what was
in the envelope.
639
00:30:58,343 --> 00:31:00,834
That's all it was about?
Her parents-
640
00:31:00,776 --> 00:31:04,507
She felt it would
look bad
641
00:31:04,392 --> 00:31:06,883
if we went together
not married.
642
00:31:06,825 --> 00:31:11,387
She said I was being
insensitive to their feelings.
643
00:31:13,994 --> 00:31:15,791
I had it all planned.
644
00:31:15,754 --> 00:31:17,984
A romantic place-
645
00:31:17,931 --> 00:31:21,230
it's stupid.
646
00:31:21,132 --> 00:31:23,760
I guess I felt I needed
the right setting.
647
00:31:25,229 --> 00:31:28,426
I was going to ask her
to marry me.
648
00:31:32,623 --> 00:31:34,386
It wasn't that big a fight.
649
00:31:34,351 --> 00:31:36,046
So why did you
get involved?
650
00:31:36,015 --> 00:31:37,710
I went out to talk to them.
651
00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:39,169
Your mother heard
you yelling.
652
00:31:39,152 --> 00:31:41,814
Patrick said your sister
was upset.
653
00:31:41,744 --> 00:31:43,473
There was no fight.
654
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,601
You're lying, Kevin!
what are you gonna do?
655
00:31:45,554 --> 00:31:47,749
You want to charge me
with the bombing of the clinic?
656
00:31:47,698 --> 00:31:50,963
You can count on it,
if I find you're covering up a crime.
657
00:31:53,267 --> 00:31:55,701
I don't know anything
about the bombing.
658
00:32:01,237 --> 00:32:03,102
we'll call you
if we need you.
659
00:32:05,429 --> 00:32:07,795
The Donovan ID?
The other fingerprints?
660
00:32:07,735 --> 00:32:09,726
Got a match? Just came
in from washington.
661
00:32:09,687 --> 00:32:11,314
He'd been in the army.
662
00:32:11,287 --> 00:32:13,152
who?
The boyfriend-
663
00:32:13,111 --> 00:32:15,102
Patrick Dunn.
664
00:32:17,368 --> 00:32:19,768
By themselves,
the fingerprints aren't proof.
665
00:32:19,705 --> 00:32:22,299
She could have
shown him the card...
666
00:32:22,234 --> 00:32:25,328
without telling him she was
gonna use it to plant a bomb.
667
00:32:25,242 --> 00:32:26,869
we need something else.
668
00:32:26,843 --> 00:32:29,141
Yeah. The brother
has a story,
669
00:32:29,083 --> 00:32:31,313
boyfriend another.
670
00:32:31,259 --> 00:32:35,059
what about
if we arrest Patrick
671
00:32:34,940 --> 00:32:37,238
as a co-conspirator?
672
00:32:37,181 --> 00:32:38,978
Based on the prints?
673
00:32:38,941 --> 00:32:41,569
I don't want him arraigned
if you don't think he's guilty.
674
00:32:41,502 --> 00:32:44,130
I don't know if he's guilty,
but let's arrest him anyway,
675
00:32:44,062 --> 00:32:46,155
not arraign him till tomorrow,
put him in a room with Kevin-
676
00:32:46,111 --> 00:32:48,909
And see what shakes loose. Yeah.
677
00:32:48,832 --> 00:32:50,993
The charge is arson
and conspiracy.
678
00:32:50,944 --> 00:32:53,071
I'm not involved
in that bombing.
679
00:32:53,025 --> 00:32:55,255
You can call your lawyer
in a few minutes.
680
00:32:57,122 --> 00:32:59,590
This is unbelievable.
681
00:33:00,674 --> 00:33:02,107
What's he doing here?
682
00:33:02,082 --> 00:33:04,175
Is he being arrested too?
683
00:33:04,131 --> 00:33:05,758
Arrested?
Mary's false ID card.
684
00:33:05,731 --> 00:33:07,289
Patrick's fingerprints
are on it.
685
00:33:07,268 --> 00:33:09,634
Did you get it for her
so she could do the bombing?
686
00:33:09,572 --> 00:33:11,540
Makes you co-conspirator.
687
00:33:11,492 --> 00:33:14,052
I'm not going to jail, Kevin.
688
00:33:13,989 --> 00:33:15,957
I can prove I wasn't involved.
689
00:33:15,910 --> 00:33:17,138
Mary wasn't involved either.
690
00:33:17,126 --> 00:33:18,753
Shut up! Shut up!
691
00:33:18,726 --> 00:33:19,715
Stone: Hey!
692
00:33:27,208 --> 00:33:29,039
All he wanted was
for her to be a martyr
693
00:33:29,001 --> 00:33:30,298
instead of a sinner.
694
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,306
She didn't go there
to bomb the clinic.
695
00:33:34,666 --> 00:33:36,497
She was pregnant.
696
00:33:37,739 --> 00:33:39,969
She was there
to have an abortion.
697
00:33:39,915 --> 00:33:42,611
She was there
to kill our baby.
698
00:33:47,789 --> 00:33:49,757
She was ashamed.
699
00:33:49,709 --> 00:33:51,677
She thought if her parents
found out-
700
00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:54,098
You wanted to marry her. That
would have solved everything.
701
00:33:54,030 --> 00:33:55,520
It doesn't matter.
702
00:33:55,502 --> 00:33:58,096
The baby comes early,
everybody knows.
703
00:33:58,031 --> 00:34:01,000
So, under a false name
she'd have an abortion.
704
00:34:00,911 --> 00:34:02,776
That morning
705
00:34:02,736 --> 00:34:05,261
I gave her the ID
and the money
706
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,633
so that she could...
707
00:34:08,305 --> 00:34:11,172
I pleaded with her
to at least let me take her.
708
00:34:11,090 --> 00:34:13,684
I pleaded.
709
00:34:17,011 --> 00:34:18,740
with arson you could
be a martyr.
710
00:34:18,707 --> 00:34:21,073
with conspiracy you could
still be a martyr.
711
00:34:21,012 --> 00:34:24,971
But Ms. McClure, now-
nowwe are talking about murder.
712
00:34:26,901 --> 00:34:28,892
I didn't kill anybody.
713
00:34:28,853 --> 00:34:31,117
Mary Donovan did not
get hit by a car.
714
00:34:31,094 --> 00:34:32,857
Tell her, Mr. Ballard.
715
00:34:36,472 --> 00:34:39,566
It's not six years
in jail anymore.
716
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,778
Ballard: You'll never
get her for manslaughter.
717
00:34:41,721 --> 00:34:44,656
Manslaughter? we are now talking
about murder in the second degree-
718
00:34:44,569 --> 00:34:46,264
depraved indifference
to human life.
719
00:34:46,233 --> 00:34:47,257
You're out of your mind.
720
00:34:47,258 --> 00:34:49,886
Stone: 15 years to
life behind bars.
721
00:34:49,819 --> 00:34:51,844
I don't want to put
i i you in prison,
722
00:34:51,803 --> 00:34:53,634
but somebody killed
Mary Donovan.
723
00:34:53,595 --> 00:34:56,587
An innocent woman died.
That is murder.
724
00:34:56,508 --> 00:34:59,136
That makes you no better
than the people you oppose.
725
00:34:59,069 --> 00:35:01,037
Counselor, she's a kid.
726
00:35:00,989 --> 00:35:02,320
You said so yourself.
727
00:35:04,926 --> 00:35:07,156
Mary Donovan was a kid, too.
728
00:35:07,103 --> 00:35:09,230
Ask her parents.
729
00:35:14,656 --> 00:35:17,489
She pleads on all three counts
outstanding.
730
00:35:17,409 --> 00:35:18,933
You recommend
minimum sentences.
731
00:35:18,913 --> 00:35:21,711
She testifies against nobody.
732
00:35:21,634 --> 00:35:24,797
If this was Schwimmer's idea,
she testifies against her.
733
00:35:24,706 --> 00:35:26,674
we drop down to conspiracy six,
arson four.
734
00:35:26,626 --> 00:35:29,720
She pleads to criminally
negligent homicide.
735
00:35:29,636 --> 00:35:30,967
She does six months.
736
00:35:31,876 --> 00:35:34,003
Celeste, do you understand?
737
00:35:36,805 --> 00:35:38,966
If I thought anyone
would get hurt,
738
00:35:38,917 --> 00:35:41,385
I wouldn't have
given Rose the bomb.
739
00:35:43,527 --> 00:35:46,087
The charges here are conspiracy
in the second degree,
740
00:35:46,023 --> 00:35:49,117
arson in the second degree,
murder in the second degree.
741
00:35:49,032 --> 00:35:51,125
Does the defendant wish
to enter a plea?
742
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,843
Not guilty, Your Honor.
743
00:35:52,808 --> 00:35:55,299
If it pleases the court,
we're requesting bail.
744
00:35:55,241 --> 00:35:56,469
Mr. Stone?
745
00:35:56,457 --> 00:35:59,722
Ms. Schwimmer has been convicted
of several misdemeanors,
746
00:35:59,626 --> 00:36:01,253
and has made
every court appearance,
747
00:36:01,227 --> 00:36:02,854
however, j j in our experience,
748
00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:04,886
activists accused
of more serious crimes
749
00:36:04,843 --> 00:36:07,368
have sometimes decided
to work for their cause
750
00:36:07,308 --> 00:36:09,776
from behind the scenes-
far behind.
751
00:36:09,709 --> 00:36:11,677
Therefore,
the people recommend
752
00:36:11,629 --> 00:36:13,426
the defendant be held
without bail.
753
00:36:13,389 --> 00:36:16,552
Your Honor, there's no reason to
believe the defendant is a flight risk.
754
00:36:16,462 --> 00:36:19,090
Mr. Stone, I'm inclined
to agree with Mr. Malloy.
755
00:36:19,022 --> 00:36:22,958
What applies generally may not
apply specifically to this defendant.
756
00:36:22,831 --> 00:36:23,889
I understand.
757
00:36:23,887 --> 00:36:25,855
But this is a homicide,
Mr. Malloy,
758
00:36:25,808 --> 00:36:27,901
with two additional
felony charges.
759
00:36:29,425 --> 00:36:31,052
Bail is set at...
760
00:36:31,025 --> 00:36:34,392
$300, 000.
761
00:36:36,306 --> 00:36:38,137
Stone: Regardless of
your personal feelings,
762
00:36:38,099 --> 00:36:40,693
you are not being asked
to decide a moral issue.
763
00:36:40,627 --> 00:36:43,095
You are being asked
to decide a legal issue.
764
00:36:43,027 --> 00:36:45,723
The crime is the murder
of a young woman
765
00:36:45,653 --> 00:36:47,280
by an exploding bomb.
766
00:36:47,253 --> 00:36:49,881
And that woman,
Ms. Rose Schwimmer,
767
00:36:49,813 --> 00:36:52,373
is accused
of placing a bomb
768
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:55,108
with depraved indifference
to human life-
769
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:57,328
indifference to anyone
it might hurt.
770
00:36:57,271 --> 00:37:02,004
You may hear the arguments
that the ends justify the means,
771
00:37:01,848 --> 00:37:05,409
that an illegal act is
somehow justified
772
00:37:05,305 --> 00:37:06,897
by a moral cause.
773
00:37:06,873 --> 00:37:09,239
If you're even tempted
to agree with that argument,
774
00:37:09,178 --> 00:37:10,645
please remember,
775
00:37:10,618 --> 00:37:13,416
killing is not only
against the law,
776
00:37:13,339 --> 00:37:15,569
it is also immoral.
777
00:37:15,515 --> 00:37:17,881
And if anyone
suggests to you
778
00:37:17,819 --> 00:37:20,447
that morality and law
are somehow in conflict,
779
00:37:20,380 --> 00:37:22,940
I ask you to remember that.
780
00:37:22,877 --> 00:37:25,675
Stone:
Is fertilizer and diesel fuel
781
00:37:25,597 --> 00:37:27,565
a commonly known explosive?
782
00:37:27,518 --> 00:37:29,577
They blow mountains
apart with it.
783
00:37:29,534 --> 00:37:32,469
Did you find
actual pieces of the bomb?
784
00:37:32,383 --> 00:37:34,146
That's correct.
Fragments of it
785
00:37:34,111 --> 00:37:36,238
were coated with
the fertilizer compound.
786
00:37:36,191 --> 00:37:38,682
Did you make a comparison
between that compound
787
00:37:38,624 --> 00:37:41,218
and the fertilizer taken
from the community garden?
788
00:37:41,152 --> 00:37:43,450
I did.
What were the results?
789
00:37:43,393 --> 00:37:45,224
They were chemically identical.
790
00:37:45,186 --> 00:37:47,279
Thank you.
No further questions, Your Honor.
791
00:37:47,234 --> 00:37:49,134
Mr. Oliver,
792
00:37:49,090 --> 00:37:52,218
is the chemical
in the fertilizer in question
793
00:37:52,131 --> 00:37:55,032
available as a chemical
other than in that particular fertilizer?
794
00:37:54,947 --> 00:37:59,179
Yes. Other manufacturers
make the same formulation.
795
00:37:59,044 --> 00:38:02,138
And is it also available
just as a chemical compound
796
00:38:02,054 --> 00:38:03,885
that has nothing to do
with fertilizer?
797
00:38:03,845 --> 00:38:05,540
Yes.
798
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:09,537
So the nitrate in the bomb could
have come from somewhere else?
799
00:38:09,415 --> 00:38:12,213
It's remotely possible.
One in a million.
800
00:38:12,135 --> 00:38:14,103
Thank you.
No more questions.
801
00:38:14,984 --> 00:38:17,418
Reporter:. Demanding police
protection for abortion clinics,
802
00:38:17,353 --> 00:38:19,651
an estimated 10, 000
pro-choice demonstrators
803
00:38:19,594 --> 00:38:21,061
marched down 1 Oth Avenue.
804
00:38:22,538 --> 00:38:24,972
It's only going
to get worse.
805
00:38:24,907 --> 00:38:26,898
Luckily, that ain't
my problem.
806
00:38:29,067 --> 00:38:31,297
we're willing
to consider a plea.
807
00:38:31,244 --> 00:38:32,677
Manslaughter two.
808
00:38:32,652 --> 00:38:35,382
Mary Donovan was
the perfect martyr.
809
00:38:35,309 --> 00:38:37,402
You should have
left it that way.
810
00:38:37,357 --> 00:38:39,587
And you, hiding behind
a dead woman?
811
00:38:39,534 --> 00:38:41,502
I don't think the jury
will like that.
812
00:38:41,454 --> 00:38:44,946
Mary Donovan was ready
to kill her baby.
813
00:38:44,847 --> 00:38:47,338
will the jury like that
any better?
814
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,748
Mary Donovan is not
on trial here.
815
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,705
She will be.
816
00:38:51,664 --> 00:38:55,031
She conspired
to commit murder.
817
00:38:56,913 --> 00:38:59,973
Are you admitting that
Mary didn't plant the bomb?
818
00:39:04,659 --> 00:39:09,358
In this state, capital punishment
is against the law.
819
00:39:09,204 --> 00:39:12,173
Yet, you're ready to risk
your own form of capital punishment
820
00:39:12,085 --> 00:39:14,451
against people you consider
deserving of it?
821
00:39:14,389 --> 00:39:16,414
They do deserve it.
822
00:39:16,374 --> 00:39:18,740
This isn't
getting us anywhere.
823
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:20,909
Come on, Rose.
824
00:39:25,848 --> 00:39:27,145
Ms. Schwimmer?
825
00:39:28,825 --> 00:39:31,692
I think you should
reconsider.
826
00:39:31,610 --> 00:39:34,841
I don't make deals
with the devil.
827
00:39:41,564 --> 00:39:43,225
Stone:
Two and a half months ago,
828
00:39:43,196 --> 00:39:45,289
did Ms. McClure
come into your store
829
00:39:45,244 --> 00:39:46,541
and place her usual order?
830
00:39:46,525 --> 00:39:48,152
Yes, she did.
831
00:39:48,125 --> 00:39:50,218
Did she add
anything unusual to it?
832
00:39:50,173 --> 00:39:52,004
Objection. Characterization.
833
00:39:51,966 --> 00:39:53,593
Sustained.
834
00:39:53,566 --> 00:39:56,194
Did Ms. McClure's
purchases include
835
00:39:56,127 --> 00:39:59,096
anything she did not make
on a regular basis?
836
00:39:59,008 --> 00:40:02,375
Yes. A 50-pound bag
of fertilizer
837
00:40:02,272 --> 00:40:04,740
with a special nitrate formula.
838
00:40:04,672 --> 00:40:06,435
Did that strike you
as strange?
839
00:40:06,401 --> 00:40:09,461
It's used mostly
for palm trees.
840
00:40:09,377 --> 00:40:12,210
I told her
it would kill her plants.
841
00:40:12,130 --> 00:40:14,257
I had to special order it.
842
00:40:14,211 --> 00:40:16,611
On that day when Ms. McClure
ordered the fertilizer,
843
00:40:16,547 --> 00:40:18,071
was anyone with her?
844
00:40:18,052 --> 00:40:19,280
Yes.
845
00:40:19,268 --> 00:40:21,600
Is that person
in this courtroom?
846
00:40:21,541 --> 00:40:22,838
Yes.
847
00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:24,981
would you point
that person out for the jury?
848
00:40:26,278 --> 00:40:28,678
She's sitting
right over there.
849
00:40:28,614 --> 00:40:30,582
Stone: You Honor,
may the record show
850
00:40:30,535 --> 00:40:32,503
that she's pointing
to the defendant?
851
00:40:32,455 --> 00:40:34,446
Judge:
Let the record so indicate.
852
00:40:36,648 --> 00:40:38,946
Rose said...
853
00:40:38,888 --> 00:40:42,085
talking, marching...
854
00:40:41,993 --> 00:40:45,121
it wasn't stopping
the abortions.
855
00:40:45,034 --> 00:40:47,662
She was right.
856
00:40:47,594 --> 00:40:51,655
Every day, more babies
were being murdered.
857
00:40:51,531 --> 00:40:53,658
Did Ms. Schwimmer talk
about the bombings
858
00:40:53,612 --> 00:40:55,876
in front of the other members
of women for Life?
859
00:40:57,132 --> 00:40:59,396
She said they
wouldn't understand.
860
00:41:00,749 --> 00:41:03,274
And...
861
00:41:03,214 --> 00:41:07,116
that if it was
just the two of us,
862
00:41:06,990 --> 00:41:09,515
nobody would find out.
863
00:41:09,456 --> 00:41:11,788
when did you give
Ms. Schwimmer the bomb?
864
00:41:11,728 --> 00:41:15,095
I met her for brunch
that morning,
865
00:41:14,992 --> 00:41:17,392
at Lazy Jane's
866
00:41:17,329 --> 00:41:19,422
on 7th Avenue.
867
00:41:19,377 --> 00:41:21,345
Stone:
Tell the jury what happened then.
868
00:41:23,218 --> 00:41:24,344
Ms. McClure?
869
00:41:27,123 --> 00:41:28,886
Rose...
870
00:41:28,852 --> 00:41:31,082
said she would
go out the back door.
871
00:41:31,028 --> 00:41:33,656
It's next to the ladies room.
872
00:41:35,765 --> 00:41:37,756
She said...
873
00:41:37,717 --> 00:41:39,344
she could
get down the alley
874
00:41:39,318 --> 00:41:42,048
and back within 10 minutes.
875
00:41:43,478 --> 00:41:45,946
She told me to wait
for five minutes,
876
00:41:45,879 --> 00:41:48,279
and then call the clinic
and warn them.
877
00:41:48,216 --> 00:41:49,706
Did you make the call?
878
00:41:49,688 --> 00:41:51,212
Yes.
879
00:41:51,193 --> 00:41:53,184
Your Honor, I would like
to enter into evidence
880
00:41:53,145 --> 00:41:55,113
telephone company records
showing calls
881
00:41:55,065 --> 00:41:57,329
made from the pay phone
882
00:41:57,273 --> 00:42:00,265
of the Lazy Jane Restaurant
on the day of the bombing.
883
00:42:02,651 --> 00:42:04,243
No further questions,
Your Honor.
884
00:42:10,141 --> 00:42:11,870
Is defense ready
for its summation?
885
00:42:11,837 --> 00:42:14,362
Your Honor, at this time,
886
00:42:14,301 --> 00:42:16,292
against advice of counsel,
887
00:42:16,254 --> 00:42:19,382
the defendant wishes
to testify in her own behalf.
888
00:42:19,295 --> 00:42:21,456
Judge:
Ms. Schwimmer,
889
00:42:21,407 --> 00:42:23,932
you realize you'll be subject
to cross-examination?
890
00:42:23,872 --> 00:42:25,635
I do, Your Honor.
891
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,591
I urge you
to reconsider.
892
00:42:27,552 --> 00:42:29,383
Listen to advice
of counsel.
893
00:42:29,345 --> 00:42:33,543
However, I won't prevent you
from testifying.
894
00:42:49,189 --> 00:42:51,714
Do you swear to tell the truth,
so help you God?
895
00:42:51,654 --> 00:42:53,588
I certainly do.
896
00:42:55,879 --> 00:42:57,676
Ballard:
Ms. Schwimmer,
897
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,199
did you conspire
with Celeste McClure
898
00:43:00,136 --> 00:43:03,367
to bomb the Chelsea
women's Choice Center,
899
00:43:03,272 --> 00:43:05,638
as well as seven
other abortion clinics?
900
00:43:05,577 --> 00:43:07,306
Yes, I did.
901
00:43:09,290 --> 00:43:12,418
Then you're guilty
of the charges leveled against you?
902
00:43:12,330 --> 00:43:14,924
Not before God.
903
00:43:14,859 --> 00:43:17,123
Can you explain
why you're innocent before God?
904
00:43:17,067 --> 00:43:20,525
Objection, this case is being judged
on the temporal plane, Your Honor.
905
00:43:20,428 --> 00:43:21,690
Sustained.
906
00:43:21,676 --> 00:43:23,667
How dare you object,
Mr. Stone?
907
00:43:23,629 --> 00:43:26,189
we've done our homework.
You were baptized.
908
00:43:26,125 --> 00:43:29,925
You go to communion, and you
prosecute me?! Judge: That's enough.
909
00:43:29,806 --> 00:43:32,570
All the abortions in that clinic
are murder, and you know it.
910
00:43:32,495 --> 00:43:34,725
Your Honor?
It must stop!
911
00:43:34,671 --> 00:43:36,901
Mary Donovan's death
was tragic,
912
00:43:36,848 --> 00:43:40,750
But if it prevents one abortion,
the scales are balanced.
913
00:43:40,625 --> 00:43:42,820
Abortion must end!
914
00:43:42,769 --> 00:43:45,237
Ms. Schwimmer, that will
be all! Are we a nation
915
00:43:45,169 --> 00:43:48,036
who can tolerate the abortionist
sticking his hand
916
00:43:47,954 --> 00:43:50,548
in a mother's womb
and strangling God's creation?
917
00:43:50,483 --> 00:43:52,815
The court officer will
remove Ms. Schwimmer!
918
00:43:52,755 --> 00:43:56,054
Your Honor, I have only one question
to ask of the defendant.
919
00:43:55,956 --> 00:43:57,719
which is?
920
00:43:57,685 --> 00:44:01,177
If abortion is murder, no matter
how you feel about Mary Donovan,
921
00:44:01,078 --> 00:44:03,911
aren't you guilty of the murder
of her unborn child?
922
00:44:21,082 --> 00:44:23,243
Judge: On the first
count in the indictment,
923
00:44:23,194 --> 00:44:25,856
the charge of conspiracy
in the second degree,
924
00:44:25,787 --> 00:44:26,879
how do you find?
925
00:44:26,875 --> 00:44:29,400
we find the defendant guilty.
926
00:44:31,132 --> 00:44:32,497
On the second count,
927
00:44:32,476 --> 00:44:35,343
the charge of arson
in the second degree,
928
00:44:35,261 --> 00:44:36,387
how do you find?
929
00:44:36,381 --> 00:44:38,872
we find
the defendant guilty.
930
00:44:40,030 --> 00:44:43,022
The third count,
murder in the second degree,
931
00:44:42,943 --> 00:44:46,242
how do you find?
We find the defendant guilty.
932
00:44:52,833 --> 00:44:54,198
Stone:
what do we say to people
933
00:44:54,177 --> 00:44:57,305
who know she committed a criminal act,
but don't think she's a criminal?
934
00:44:57,218 --> 00:45:00,153
That's easy. A criminal is
someone who commits a criminal act-
935
00:45:00,066 --> 00:45:01,727
for any reason.
936
00:45:01,699 --> 00:45:04,497
But up until Roe v. wade,
the abortionists were the criminals.
937
00:45:04,419 --> 00:45:06,853
If the law hadn't changed,
there never would have been a bombing.
938
00:45:06,788 --> 00:45:08,847
If the law hadn't changed,
I'd be a slave.
939
00:45:08,805 --> 00:45:10,636
You can't turn back
the clock.
940
00:45:10,686 --> 00:45:15,236
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