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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000 Edited at https://subtitletools.com 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,020 ASTRONAUT:Accessing disconnect. Enable on. 3 00:00:04,020 --> 00:00:06,600 MISSION CONTROL: Copy that E.L. Com. 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,060 All systems are 'go' for entry, decent and landing. 5 00:00:11,060 --> 00:02:07,220 Stand by.... Stand by. 6 00:02:07,220 --> 00:02:09,460 ASTRONAUT:We are looking fine, flight. Data is good. 7 00:02:09,460 --> 00:02:11,920 NARRATOR:At the dawn of the 21st Century, 8 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:14,940 space agencies in Europe and America 9 00:02:14,940 --> 00:02:20,840 began making plans to land the first humans on Mars. 10 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,200 But manned missions to the red planet 11 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:33,000 have been proposed before. 12 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,860 For some, Mars holds the answers to 13 00:02:35,860 --> 00:02:38,140 mankind’s future in space. 14 00:02:38,140 --> 00:02:42,200 Others say Mars is too far, too dangerous, 15 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:48,160 and too expensive for humans to explore. 16 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,460 And in a world torn by troubles, some saythere is no need, 17 00:02:53,460 --> 00:02:58,060 or will, for mankind to reach into space anymore. 18 00:02:58,060 --> 00:03:04,300 More than 30 years after the last Apollo astronaut walked on the moon, 19 00:03:04,300 --> 00:03:09,100 the American-manned space program seems to have lost its way, 20 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:12,620 unable to reach beyond even low-earth orbit. 21 00:03:12,620 --> 00:03:17,820 ZUBRIN: We’ve got a problem, NASA has been literally going around in circles 22 00:03:17,820 --> 00:03:22,060 with the space program for the past 30 years. 23 00:03:22,060 --> 00:03:25,840 NARRATOR:Astronautically engineer, Dr. Robert Zubrin, 24 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,520 has been arguing for years that sending humans to Mars 25 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,740 is the mission the space program needs. 26 00:03:32,740 --> 00:03:35,840 ZUBRIN:It’s time that we set goals for NASA 27 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,580 that were worthy of the risks of the human space flight. 28 00:03:39,580 --> 00:03:43,000 Mars is the next logical step in our space program. 29 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,820 It’s the challenge that’s been staring us in the face for the past 30 years. 30 00:03:47,820 --> 00:03:50,380 It’s the planet that’s most like the Earth, 31 00:03:50,380 --> 00:03:53,760 it’s the planet that has on it the resources needed to support life 32 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,519 and therefore some day technological civilization. 33 00:03:56,519 --> 00:03:59,409 It’s the planet that will provide us with the answer 34 00:03:59,409 --> 00:04:03,640 as to whether life is prevalent inthe universe or exclusive to the Earth. 35 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,300 And it’s the planet that will give usthe critical tests as to whether humanity, 36 00:04:07,300 --> 00:04:09,500 can breakout out of the planet of our birth 37 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:14,480 and become a space-faring species. 38 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,920 In the early 1990s, Zubrin was the head of the'Mars Direct' program 39 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,180 at Martin Marietta Astronautics. 40 00:04:23,180 --> 00:04:28,920 His team developed a mission to Mars that could be done at the fraction of Nasa’s projected costs. 41 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:34,680 Using only existing technology, Zubrin argues that the first steps on Martian soil 42 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,840 could be made within 10 years. 43 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:41,660 ZUBRIN:There is absolutely nothing in this that is beyond our technology. 44 00:04:41,660 --> 00:04:45,560 DR. EDWARD WEILER: We are not ready to send humans to Mars right now. 45 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,620 We don't know how to keep them alive. 46 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:50,860 There are people out there, right now, that say we can go to Mars tomorrow. 47 00:04:50,860 --> 00:04:53,520 One of my requirements, one of NASA’s requirements, 48 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,229 is that if we send humans to Mars we bring them back alive. 49 00:04:56,229 --> 00:05:00,180 For the past 15 years, Zubrin and his colleagueshave waged a campaign 50 00:05:00,180 --> 00:05:03,940 to convince society and the political class 51 00:05:03,940 --> 00:05:09,440 that humans-on-Mars should be the goal for NASA now. 52 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,260 This is the story of our cold neighboring planet 53 00:05:12,260 --> 00:05:17,140 and the debate overwhether man’s fate it tied to the red world. 54 00:05:17,140 --> 00:05:21,050 It’s the story of anengineer’s journey – and the battle of ideas 55 00:05:21,050 --> 00:05:25,980 over which direction inspace will truly benefit mankind. 56 00:05:25,980 --> 00:05:28,770 ZUBRIN:We’re at a crossroads today. 57 00:05:28,770 --> 00:05:31,110 We either muster the courage to go 58 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:34,970 or we risk the possibility of stagnation and decay. 59 00:05:34,970 --> 00:05:39,599 The victor in this debate could determinethe fate of mankind. 60 00:05:39,599 --> 00:05:43,300 Will we become a space-faring species? 61 00:05:43,300 --> 00:06:05,680 Will we live on more than one planet? 62 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,909 In the Winter of 2003, the Chinese put their 63 00:06:08,909 --> 00:06:25,540 first tikenaut in space. 64 00:06:25,540 --> 00:06:28,740 The European’s space agency has outlineda plan for humans to the 65 00:06:28,740 --> 00:06:35,540 moon by 2024. And to Mars by 2033. 66 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:38,340 And the Russians, building on years of experience 67 00:06:38,340 --> 00:06:43,560 are conducting test forlong duration Mars missions. 68 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,449 In America, with the impending retirementof the shuttle fleet and 69 00:06:48,449 --> 00:06:51,819 the completion of the International SpaceStation, the Bush 70 00:06:51,819 --> 00:06:54,779 administration announced in 2004. 71 00:06:54,779 --> 00:06:57,260 the Constellation Program. 72 00:06:57,260 --> 00:07:03,179 A plan that would return America to the moon by 2020. 73 00:07:03,179 --> 00:07:06,600 But the program was never fully funded 74 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:12,240 and was eventually cancelled. 75 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,789 In 2010, the Obama Administration announced it’s 76 00:07:15,789 --> 00:07:32,720 vision for NASA and human Mars exploration. 77 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,940 NARRATOR:With a new timeline for humans to Mars, sometime 78 00:07:35,940 --> 00:07:41,610 after 2035, andwith administrations changing every 4 or 8 years, 79 00:07:41,610 --> 00:07:45,210 it is far fromcertain that such a plan will be realized. 80 00:07:45,210 --> 00:07:48,990 20 years earlier, the first President Bush 81 00:07:48,990 --> 00:07:55,000 also proposed a long-termhuman exploration program, under great fan-fair. 82 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,520 The programquietly died in Congress a few years later. 83 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,700 ZUBRIN:If you want to go to Mars, you cannot do it 84 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:05,880 in 30 years, you can't do it in 20 years. 85 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,880 You gotta do it in 10 years or less from program start or 86 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,900 you are more or less guaranteed political failure. 87 00:08:10,900 --> 00:08:15,539 To date, only the Apollo Moon Program - whichwas announced in 1961 88 00:08:15,539 --> 00:08:18,279 and had men on the moon 8 years later - 89 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:26,740 has succeeded in getting astronauts beyond low earth orbit. 90 00:08:26,740 --> 00:08:30,620 ZUBRIN:I was 5 when Sputnik flew. 91 00:08:30,620 --> 00:08:35,520 And while, to the adults, Sputnik was aterrifying event, 92 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,380 to me, as a child, who was already reading science fiction, 93 00:08:39,380 --> 00:08:40,900 it was exhilarating. 94 00:08:40,900 --> 00:08:42,979 Cause it meant that this possibility 95 00:08:42,979 --> 00:08:46,400 of a space fairing future was going to be real. 96 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,680 And I was 9 when Kennedy gave his speech committing us to the moon... 97 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:52,000 "We choose to go to the moon in this decade 98 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,670 and do the other thing. Not because they are easy, but because they are hard. 99 00:08:56,670 --> 00:09:00,840 ZUBRIN:I grew up during the 60’s when it was Mercury, 100 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,230 it was Gemini, itwas Apollo. Every month NASA was doing something 101 00:09:05,230 --> 00:09:07,420 moreimpressive than the month before. We were 102 00:09:07,420 --> 00:09:12,530 going to be on themoon by 1970, Mars by 1980, Saturn by 1990, 103 00:09:12,530 --> 00:09:14,750 Alpha-Sintari by the year 2000. 104 00:09:14,750 --> 00:09:18,270 We were moving out and I wanted to be partof that. And so, I got 105 00:09:18,270 --> 00:09:23,400 myself an scientific education. But then inthe early 70s this all 106 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,700 collapsed. We achieved the first part of theprogram: Moon by 1970. 107 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:30,080 But the Nixon administration shut downthe rest and we did 108 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,570 not move out into space.And for a while I accepted that, grudgingly. 109 00:09:34,570 --> 00:09:38,890 I became a scienceteacher. But then, in the early 80s, something 110 00:09:38,890 --> 00:09:43,650 hit me and I said,“I’m not going to accept myself doing 111 00:09:43,650 --> 00:09:47,520 less than what I had dreamed of doing whenI was a boy” 112 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,770 NARRATOR:Zubrin went back to graduate school getting 113 00:09:50,770 --> 00:09:54,900 advanced degrees inEngineering and Aerospace. He then went on 114 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:59,320 to work at MartinMarietta, which later became Lockheed Martin, 115 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,080 designing interplanetary missions. 116 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,460 It was here that Zubrin’s obsession 117 00:10:04,460 --> 00:10:12,520 with the red planet began to take hold. 118 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,630 While at Martin, in the 1990s, Zubrin and his colleagues 119 00:10:16,630 --> 00:10:19,980 developed a plan for sending human to Mars 120 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:22,800 that changed NASAs thinking on the issue. 121 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,640 But the plan has languished on the drawingboards ever since. 122 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Now, as president of the Mars Society, Zubrinis a center stage in 123 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,680 the debate over the future of manned spaceflight. 124 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:40,510 Known as a smart, visionary scientist, he’sauthored several books 125 00:10:40,510 --> 00:10:44,060 on exploring space and is the self-appointedspokesman for the 126 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:47,600 possibility of colonizing Mars. 127 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,920 Mars is where the future is. Mars is the closest planet to the Earth 128 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,020 that has on in the all the resources neededto support life 129 00:10:55,020 --> 00:10:59,440 and therefore technological civilization. It has water, it has carbon, 130 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,370 It has nitrogen. It has a 24-hour day.It has a complex geological history that has 131 00:11:03,370 --> 00:11:07,590 created mineral ore. It has sources of geothermal energy. 132 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:11,390 Mars is a place we can settle. 133 00:11:11,390 --> 00:11:14,700 One reason for such optimism over a frozen world like Mars, 134 00:11:14,700 --> 00:11:17,980 is evidence that 2 billion years ago 135 00:11:17,980 --> 00:11:23,160 Mars was a much warmer and wetter place. 136 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,800 DR. PENELOPE BOSTON:We think that at one time in the ancient past 137 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:34,120 Mars was very similarto the condition of early Earth. 138 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,120 NARRATOR:This Martian warm age lasted for over a billion years 139 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,740 and could have been a suitable environment 140 00:11:39,740 --> 00:11:42,960 for the development of life. 141 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,240 DR. CHRISTOPHER MCKAY:If we go to Mars and find evidence of a second 142 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,620 genesis on Mars, I think we can conclude that the universe is 143 00:11:48,620 --> 00:11:51,830 full of life. We canprobably conclude that on some planets that 144 00:11:51,830 --> 00:11:55,790 life evolves to morecomplex forms. And I think we’d be reasonable 145 00:11:55,790 --> 00:12:00,000 to conclude that intelligence could also emerge on some planets as well. 146 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,840 It really does answer the questions, "are we alone?" 147 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,260 And that to me, isa question that transcends science. 148 00:12:08,260 --> 00:12:11,760 It’s a philosophical, societal, aswell as scientific question. 149 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,120 To me that’s the big prize, 150 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,520 that’s why Mars is interesting. 151 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:22,080 That’s why human exploration makes sense. 152 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,150 Space programs are often criticized for thehuge sums of money 153 00:12:25,150 --> 00:12:29,280 they require. Although the American spaceprogram is less than 154 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,720 1% of the federal budget, a human mission to Mars 155 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,060 may have to wait for better times. 156 00:12:37,060 --> 00:12:40,290 There are those who say that we have many problems to deal with 157 00:12:40,290 --> 00:12:44,180 here on earth, and we need to postpone adventures such as the 158 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:49,190 human exploration of Mars until these problems are solved. 159 00:12:49,190 --> 00:12:54,110 Well, there were many problems in Spain in 1492, 160 00:12:54,110 --> 00:12:56,940 and there still are. 161 00:12:56,940 --> 00:13:00,290 There are problems that need to be dealt with here on Earth 162 00:13:00,290 --> 00:13:01,950 and should be dealt with. 163 00:13:01,950 --> 00:13:05,800 But, we also have to think of the future. 164 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,570 We also have to think about opening up 165 00:13:08,570 --> 00:13:23,400 new volumes in human history. 166 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,600 I believe that it’s essential for a positive human future 167 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:40,720 that humanity expand into space. 168 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,880 The greatest value that we got out of Apollo 169 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,940 was the creation of intellectual capital through the inspiring 170 00:13:48,940 --> 00:13:52,380 of millions to go into science and engineering, 171 00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:55,040 to be part of the great adventure of human expansion into space. 172 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,020 DR. LOUIS FRIEDMAN: There’s a phrase that happened with the Apollo program, 173 00:13:58,020 --> 00:14:01,160 which was "if we can go the moon we can..." And then everybody filled 174 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,200 in whatever they were interested in; buildmass transit, cure cancer, 175 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,100 do this, do that. The point is it did giveus a sense that we could 176 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:14,180 accomplish great things. It did bring outthe best in us. 177 00:14:14,180 --> 00:14:17,280 DR. EDWARD WEILER:We excited a generation of engineers and scientists. 178 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,370 The generationthat built the computers and cellphones and 179 00:14:20,370 --> 00:14:23,570 all the technologyeverybody uses today and takes for granted. 180 00:14:23,570 --> 00:14:26,910 ZUBRIN:If we sent humans to Mars as our goal, we’ll 181 00:14:26,910 --> 00:14:31,470 get millions of newscientists that will create new inventions, 182 00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:36,380 new industries. This isthe enormous payback. And we can get it if 183 00:14:36,380 --> 00:14:42,600 we set the kind ofchallenge that will inspire the youth. 184 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,180 NARRATOR:To Zubrin, civilizations, like people, 185 00:14:46,180 --> 00:14:49,070 thrive on challenge and decay without it. 186 00:14:49,070 --> 00:14:52,530 ZUBRIN:We have everything we have today because of 187 00:14:52,530 --> 00:14:57,660 our predecessorswho had the courage to leave the world of 188 00:14:57,660 --> 00:15:02,460 the known and go out inthe wilderness and build new cities. 189 00:15:02,460 --> 00:15:08,990 And if we stop being peoplelike that, then we will hand down much less 190 00:15:08,990 --> 00:15:13,450 to our posterity thanour ancestors handed down to us. 191 00:15:13,450 --> 00:15:19,320 So there’s the choice in life. One eithergrows or one decays. 192 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,010 Grow or die. I think we should grow. 193 00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:27,370 PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH, SR.: History proves that we have never lost 194 00:15:27,370 --> 00:15:32,280 by pressing the limits of our frontier. 195 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,100 NARRATOR: In the summer of 1989, 196 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:36,950 the first President Bush announced 197 00:15:36,950 --> 00:15:39,560 The Space Exploration Initiative. 198 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,580 Directing NASA to draw up longterm plans 199 00:15:42,580 --> 00:15:45,350 to get humans back to the moon and begin 200 00:15:45,350 --> 00:15:50,140 developing a program of manned-Mars exploration. 201 00:15:50,140 --> 00:15:53,930 At Martin Marietta, Zubrin and his colleagueslooked forward to 202 00:15:53,930 --> 00:15:56,710 moving NASA’s space program outwards 203 00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:59,730 after two decades in low earth orbit. 204 00:15:59,730 --> 00:16:03,970 Of course we were very excited when Bush madehis call saying 205 00:16:03,970 --> 00:16:08,030 that he was making a national commitment to implement such a program. 206 00:16:08,030 --> 00:16:12,510 NASA assembled a large team to take on the space initiative. 207 00:16:12,510 --> 00:16:16,310 In 90-days the team developed a 30-year plan that required an 208 00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:18,850 enormous build-up of space infrastructure. 209 00:16:18,850 --> 00:16:23,300 ZUBRIN: What the NASA bureaucracy decided to do was basically design 210 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:26,560 the most complex mission they possibly couldin order to make 211 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,050 sure that everyone’s pet technology wouldremain mission critical. 212 00:16:31,050 --> 00:16:34,400 Which is the exact opposite of the correctway to do engineering. 213 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,040 NARRATOR:First NASA would triple the size of the planned space station 214 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,720 and add enormous hangers as well as free-floating 215 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,380 fuel depos, check out docs, and crew stations. 216 00:16:44,380 --> 00:16:48,060 Then on the moon, they would construct more ship-building facilities, 217 00:16:48,060 --> 00:16:52,420 bases and depos. Next, the mooncrew would construct the Mars ship, 218 00:16:52,420 --> 00:16:57,940 a huge craft, dubbed by its detractors as Battlestar Gallactica. 219 00:16:57,940 --> 00:17:01,040 This ship would carry everything to Mars 220 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,060 over an 18-month flight. 221 00:17:03,060 --> 00:17:05,510 Once in Mars orbit, a small group would 222 00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:08,630 descent to the surface, spend a few days, 223 00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:13,459 then plant a flag in the ground and go home. 224 00:17:13,459 --> 00:17:16,918 The plan became known as the "90-Day Report". 225 00:17:16,918 --> 00:17:20,720 ZUBRIN:To those of us at Martin who had been engaged 226 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,900 in designing Mars missions when they saw the monstrosity of 227 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:27,279 complexity of the 90-day report, we were dismayed and it was readily 228 00:17:27,279 --> 00:17:30,190 apparent to anyone with any insight that 229 00:17:30,190 --> 00:17:31,720 that program would fail politically. 230 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,220 NARRATOR: The plan was submitted to congress. 231 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:37,080 The estimated cost: $450 billion. 232 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,300 The legislators went into sticker shock. 233 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:43,750 This would have been the single most expensive program for the United States 234 00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:46,170 since World War II. 235 00:17:46,170 --> 00:17:49,010 By the end of 1990, Congress had refused 236 00:17:49,010 --> 00:17:53,070 all requests for SEI funding. 237 00:17:53,070 --> 00:17:56,270 When the realization came that SEI was doomed, 238 00:17:56,270 --> 00:17:59,510 Zubrin wrote a memo to his colleague at Martin Marietta, 239 00:17:59,510 --> 00:18:05,450 outlining his problems with the NASA plan and arguing for a more direct approach. 240 00:18:05,450 --> 00:18:08,899 Zubrin favored launching a Mars mission directly from the surface of Earth, 241 00:18:08,899 --> 00:18:12,440 using only existing rocket technology. 242 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,080 This negated the need for a lunar base 243 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,660 and avoided the complexity and cost of building ships in space. 244 00:18:19,660 --> 00:18:22,480 He also objected to NASA’s plan for a short 245 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,120 surface stay on Mars.A mission that would amount to little more 246 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:30,690 than a flag and afootprint exercise. To Zubrin we were going 247 00:18:30,690 --> 00:18:35,090 to Mars to explore and develop a new world. 248 00:18:35,090 --> 00:18:39,710 To maximize surface time, Zubrinproposed using a faster flight path, 249 00:18:39,710 --> 00:18:43,150 known as a "conjunction class" mission. 250 00:18:43,150 --> 00:18:48,120 This would mean a crew could arrive on Mars after only a 6 month journey. 251 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:52,180 They would then remain on the Martiansurface for a year and a half. 252 00:18:52,180 --> 00:18:55,880 This would give the team timeto explore a wide area 253 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:01,679 and conduct detailed research about the planet.Then, as the Earth return window opens, 254 00:19:01,679 --> 00:19:06,620 the crew would launch from Mars for a six-month trip home. 255 00:19:06,620 --> 00:19:10,909 Zubrin was convinced that a simplified, more robust, and cost-effective mission 256 00:19:10,909 --> 00:19:17,200 could be designed using these principles. 257 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,740 Along with several like-minded colleagues,Zubrin decided to ask 258 00:19:20,740 --> 00:19:27,110 management at Martin to allow them to design alternative Mars missions. 259 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:31,309 ZUBRIN: The management approved it. And we formed a team. 260 00:19:31,309 --> 00:19:34,659 It was known as the "Scenario Development Team" ofjust 12 people 261 00:19:34,659 --> 00:19:38,269 from the whole very large Martin company. 262 00:19:38,269 --> 00:19:41,589 NARRATOR: One team member, who’s thinking was closely aligned with Zubrin's, 263 00:19:41,589 --> 00:19:43,429 was David Baker. 264 00:19:43,429 --> 00:19:46,659 I went off to my office and said "all right,how would I do a Mars 265 00:19:46,659 --> 00:19:51,149 mission if I had to pay for it and I had togo on the ride." And I said, 266 00:19:51,149 --> 00:19:55,179 well, it’s gonna be simple, there’s gonnabe no on orbit assembly. 267 00:19:55,179 --> 00:19:57,620 I really tried to take everything out of themission that didn’t 268 00:19:57,620 --> 00:20:01,129 absolutely need to be there. 269 00:20:01,129 --> 00:20:04,360 While the rest of the team focused on longer term, more traditional 270 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:08,539 mission plans, that required on-orbit assembly,Zubrin and Baker 271 00:20:08,539 --> 00:20:11,649 decided to collaborate on a mission that couldbe done near term. 272 00:20:11,649 --> 00:20:17,120 ZUBRIN:We decided to do Mars the way Lewis and Clark did America. 273 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:22,060 Use the local resources, travel light, live off the land. 274 00:20:25,139 --> 00:20:27,929 Zubrin and Baker were convinced that a Marsmission could be 275 00:20:27,929 --> 00:20:30,149 launched directly from the ground. 276 00:20:30,149 --> 00:20:33,240 The other team members felt this was impossible – 277 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,200 that the weight of the rocket fuel required for a round trip to Mars 278 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,540 was so enormous it would render the launch ship impossibly heavy. 279 00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:44,360 To solve this problem Zubrin was exploring 280 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:47,639 a radical idea that hadbeen kicked around the aerospace industry 281 00:20:47,639 --> 00:20:50,980 since the 1970s. 282 00:20:50,980 --> 00:20:54,320 The idea was to produce a methane oxygen rocket fuel 283 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,400 directly from the Martian atmosphere. 284 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,019 It was a relatively simple and robustchemical engineering procedure 285 00:21:01,019 --> 00:21:05,780 that was done commonly in the1800s, the era of the gas light. 286 00:21:05,780 --> 00:21:08,360 If the idea worked, astronauts could land 287 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:12,040 a relatively light ship with empty tanks. 288 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,100 They wouldn’t have to ship all the fuelwith them for their return trip. 289 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:20,639 This would radically lower their size and weight. 290 00:21:20,639 --> 00:21:25,759 The only problem was methane oxygen fuel requires ahydrogen component. 291 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:29,249 Hydrogen exists on Mars in the form of H20,but water may be 292 00:21:29,249 --> 00:21:32,549 difficult or impossible to extract from theMartian environment. 293 00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:35,299 ZUBRIN:Really the hydrogen was only 5% of the total weight 294 00:21:35,299 --> 00:21:38,429 of the methane oxygen propellant being manufactured. 295 00:21:38,429 --> 00:21:42,220 So you if you justsay "Okay, we won’t be pure. We won’t get 296 00:21:42,220 --> 00:21:46,480 all of the propellant from Mars. We’ll just get 95% of the of the propellant from Mars. 297 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,040 The other 5%, the hydrogen, 298 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,080 we’ll just bring from Earth." 299 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,690 NARRATOR: Another fundamental resource that could be extracted from the 300 00:21:53,690 --> 00:21:56,750 Martian environment – is oxygen. 301 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:59,880 A second processing unit, could separate oxygen molecules 302 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,660 from the thin carbon dioxide atmosphere, 303 00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:05,379 providing breathable air for a Mars crew. 304 00:22:05,379 --> 00:22:09,659 ZUBRIN:If used intelligently, the same resources 305 00:22:09,659 --> 00:22:13,840 that make Mars interestingare precisely what can make it attainable. 306 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,639 NARRATOR:Baker and Zubrin had greatly reduced their mission mass. 307 00:22:16,639 --> 00:22:20,899 But they still found their ship was too heavy 308 00:22:20,899 --> 00:22:24,710 and would require twolaunches and assembly in space. 309 00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:27,169 Then Zubrin hit on a idea. 310 00:22:27,169 --> 00:22:29,970 DAVID BAKER: One of the key events of the Mars Direct development 311 00:22:29,970 --> 00:22:32,710 was one morning Bob burst into my office and said,“I got it!” 312 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:37,290 ZUBRIN:The idea that I finally hit on, in 1989, 313 00:22:37,290 --> 00:22:40,730 was that we would split themission up into two parts and we’d send 314 00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:46,629 the return vehicle out firstwith its own return propellant plant. 315 00:22:46,629 --> 00:22:52,889 So the propellant would bemade on Mars before the first astronauts ever left Earth. 316 00:22:52,889 --> 00:22:57,110 With two separate direct-to-Mars launches,a human crew would 317 00:22:57,110 --> 00:23:01,009 have a fully-fueled ship waiting for themon the surface of Mars 318 00:23:01,009 --> 00:23:05,840 before they ever left Earth. 319 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,559 So Zubrin and Baker had come up with a planthat seemed to 320 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:12,460 accomplish all of their goals. It was relativelyinexpensive, 321 00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:16,720 development time was short, they could useexisting technology, 322 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,999 and it’s allowed for a long stay on theMartian surface. 323 00:23:19,999 --> 00:23:29,000 They dubbed their idea "Mars Direct". 324 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,860 NARRATOR:Aboard an Aries’ rocket, is the Earth Return Vehicle or ERV. 325 00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:36,809 No one is aboard this ship. 326 00:23:36,809 --> 00:24:38,880 It will pave the way for astronauts who,years later, will use the ERV to return to Earth. 327 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:45,200 NARRATOR:On its second day, the ERV deploys a small nuclear power reactor. 328 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,380 The reactor powers a chemical plant inside the ERV. 329 00:24:50,380 --> 00:25:00,580 The plant will produce the methane oxygen rocket fuel for the launch home. 330 00:25:00,580 --> 00:25:03,299 Nearby, a second robotic robot is guided to 331 00:25:03,299 --> 00:25:07,960 a pre-picked landing site for the human crew. 332 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,800 It places a radar transponder to help guidethe astronauts in. 333 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:34,560 The long journey to land a human being onMars begins. 334 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,299 Carrying the most skillfully assembled flightteam in history, 335 00:25:38,299 --> 00:25:46,169 four astronauts begin their 2.5 year mission to the red planet. 336 00:25:46,169 --> 00:25:50,960 This will be the first time a human has gone beyond the Earth-Moon system, 337 00:25:50,960 --> 00:26:08,840 250 million miles farther thanany person has ever been. 338 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,920 To counter the health problems of zero gravity, 339 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,399 and to fully acclimate the astronauts to Mars, 340 00:26:15,399 --> 00:26:23,740 the ship will deploy a weighted tether attached to the last stage of the spent rocket booster. 341 00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:26,110 By thrusting the ship into a rotational spin 342 00:26:26,110 --> 00:26:30,619 the counterweight of therocket will create centrifugal force and thus 343 00:26:30,619 --> 00:26:34,249 artificial gravity. Thecrew will be able to live with their feet 344 00:26:34,249 --> 00:26:40,700 planted firmly on the floor during their 6-month transit. 345 00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:44,220 But the HAB is not entirely alone on its journey, 346 00:26:44,220 --> 00:26:48,740 just ahead of it is a second ERV, identical to the first. 347 00:26:48,740 --> 00:26:52,060 Launched just a few weeks prior to the HAB, 348 00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:54,740 it will prepare the way for a secondhuman crew 349 00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:57,620 that will follow two years later. 350 00:26:57,620 --> 00:26:59,639 It can also function as a backup to the first mission, 351 00:26:59,639 --> 00:27:15,140 if anything should go wrong. 352 00:27:15,140 --> 00:27:22,149 On the 6th month of the flight, the crew willgaze upon an alien world. 353 00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:26,940 This is the new frontier. 354 00:27:26,940 --> 00:27:31,640 ASTRONAUT:Spectacular. Just spectacular. 355 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,509 After days in orbit, and satisfied with thelanding conditions, 356 00:27:35,509 --> 00:27:38,360 the crew will receive final word from missioncontrol on Earth. 357 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:53,600 MISSION CONTROL:All systems are 'go' for entry, decent and landing. 358 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,480 It will be a tense 40 minutes before peopleback on Earth 359 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:46,840 get the signal from Mars and know if everything has gone well. 360 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,560 For more than 500 days, the astronauts willlive on Mars 361 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:58,500 and embark on one of the greatest journey’s of discovery in the history of science. 362 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:09,200 Will they find life? Or the fossilizedremains of past life? 363 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,440 Such a discovery could tell us whether our solar system 364 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:17,960 has seen more than one genesis. And answer the ultimate question. 365 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,580 Are we alone? 366 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:27,239 In any case, these explorers will be learninghow feasible 367 00:29:27,239 --> 00:29:32,110 the colonization of Mars really is. And whetheror not mankind 368 00:29:32,110 --> 00:29:39,400 has a future among the stars. 369 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,009 Then, when the time comes, 370 00:29:42,009 --> 00:29:45,690 and the window Earth return opens,the crew will climb into their 371 00:29:45,690 --> 00:29:52,880 Earth-return vehicle and head home. 372 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,500 They will arrive home, heroes, 373 00:29:55,500 --> 00:30:00,649 the first to stretch the limit of man’sexpanse from one planet to another. 374 00:30:00,649 --> 00:30:08,040 Their names added to the listof great explorers of new worlds. 375 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:15,520 In their footsteps, others will follow. 376 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,690 What began as a trickle is free to rise 377 00:30:18,690 --> 00:30:23,769 into a deluge of humankind,sweeping over a once-barren land 378 00:30:23,769 --> 00:30:31,909 and transforming it into a viable, new world. 379 00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:36,000 When Baker and Zubrin presented Mars Directto their bosses at Martin, 380 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,340 they expected the worst. 381 00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:42,240 To their surprise, management was excited about it. 382 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,700 They liked the fact that everything needed was 383 00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:49,920 relatively simple and near term. 384 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,700 As time went on, Martin Marietta embraced Mars Direct as their creation 385 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:58,139 and put Bob and I on an airplane to several NASA 386 00:30:58,139 --> 00:31:02,230 centers to present Mars Direct and try to build somemomentum for it. 387 00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:03,850 NARRATOR:Baker and Zubrin flew to the 388 00:31:03,850 --> 00:31:07,720 Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. 389 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,539 This had been one of the original design hubs 390 00:31:10,539 --> 00:31:13,989 for the Apollo moonlandings. But recently many of the engineers 391 00:31:13,989 --> 00:31:18,710 had become demoralized by the failure of NASA's SEI program. 392 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:23,940 Tag team style, Baker and Zubrin presentedtheir alternative mission architecture. 393 00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:26,309 The response was thrilling. 394 00:31:26,309 --> 00:31:28,829 The old school Apollo crowd embraced it. 395 00:31:28,829 --> 00:31:32,200 This was a plan that actually made sense and was within reach. 396 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,039 ZUBRIN: Baker and I gave a number of briefings. 397 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:37,219 The first was at the Marshall Space Flight Center. 398 00:31:37,219 --> 00:31:38,549 The next was at Johnson. 399 00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:41,520 These people were incredibly excited. 400 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,520 NARRATIOR: Over the next few weeks, Zubrin and Baker were flown around the country, 401 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,400 pitching to all branches of NASA andeverywhere they went 402 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,160 the response was electric. 403 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,620 The plan was standing up to scrutiny 404 00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:57,220 and groups all over NASA were convertingto Mars Direct. 405 00:31:57,220 --> 00:32:00,059 Their tour culminated in a public presentation 406 00:32:00,059 --> 00:32:02,560 to the National Space Society. 407 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:15,560 The crowd gave the two aerospace engineers a standing ovation. 408 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:25,400 A week later, the story was in newspapers around the country. 409 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,769 But a counter attack was beginning to form within NASA. 410 00:32:28,769 --> 00:32:31,960 The space station teams and many in the advance propulsion groups 411 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,149 were against the idea. Since Mars Direct didn’tneed their programs 412 00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:40,139 they felt under threat. As quickly as doors openedfor Zubrin and Baker 413 00:32:40,139 --> 00:32:41,879 they began to close. 414 00:32:41,879 --> 00:32:45,269 DAVID BAKER: NASA didn’t want to pursue a Mars mission at that time. 415 00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:48,940 They didn’t want to be derailed by a bunch of Mars fanatics 416 00:32:48,940 --> 00:32:51,830 that thought that their idea of what NASA shoulddo should overwhelm 417 00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:54,340 what NASA thought NASA should do. 418 00:32:54,340 --> 00:32:59,640 ZUBRIN: What we did in Mars Direct was literally come up with the leanness solution. 419 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,559 The one that involved the least spending on an 420 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,070 assortment of technologies and infrastructureelements including 421 00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:10,320 for example we made no use whatsoever of theInternational Space Station. 422 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,300 And so people involved in all thoseprograms were very upset 423 00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:16,690 because we showing they shouldn’tgo to Mars without their 424 00:33:16,690 --> 00:33:22,029 program being required. They felt thatwe were de-justifying them. 425 00:33:22,029 --> 00:33:25,749 The NASA administration rejected Mars Direct. 426 00:33:25,749 --> 00:33:29,189 The two engineers were outsiders again. 427 00:33:29,189 --> 00:33:32,160 But Zubrin remained determined. 428 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,749 DAVID BAKER:Bob had grabbed hold of it, and I could see 429 00:33:34,749 --> 00:33:37,470 that it was his and nomatter what I did he was going to do what 430 00:33:37,470 --> 00:33:41,100 he was going to do andhe was going to be a proponent for it 431 00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:45,700 and push it and I really sawmy role sort of evaporate. 432 00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:49,779 It’s a little bit like being a dim planetnext to a bright start around him in terms 433 00:33:49,779 --> 00:33:52,730 of his enthusiasm andyou really can’t compete with that. 434 00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:55,759 All you can do is decide howyou’re going to deal with it. 435 00:33:55,759 --> 00:34:02,860 NARRATOR:By February 1991, Baker quit Martin to start his own firm. 436 00:34:02,860 --> 00:34:06,119 Zubrin battled on. For the next year and a half Zubrin 437 00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:10,280 tried to get NASA topay attention; giving speeches, writing papers. 438 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:18,919 But Mars Direct’stime seemed to have passed. 439 00:34:18,919 --> 00:34:23,780 But then in 1992, a new administration came into powerat NASA, 440 00:34:23,780 --> 00:34:25,690 and Zubrin saw a second chance. 441 00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:28,480 ZUBRIN: I was invited to brief Mike Griffin, who wasthe associated administrator 442 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,540 for space exploration, in chargeof the whole space exploration initiative. 443 00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:36,129 He immediately became a verystrong supporter of Mars Direct. 444 00:34:36,129 --> 00:34:40,399 But before the engineers at NASA would takeanother look at Mars Direct, 445 00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:43,590 they wanted Zubrin to prove that producingrocket fuel on 446 00:34:43,590 --> 00:34:48,580 Mars could work. They gave Martin Mariettaa small budget to do an experiment. 447 00:34:48,580 --> 00:34:51,810 Zubrin and his team built amachine called the 448 00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:56,230 Institute Propellant Plan.It could take carbon dioxide, the dominate 449 00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:59,860 gas in the Martianatmosphere, combine it with a little hydrogen, 450 00:34:59,860 --> 00:35:01,680 and produce a methane oxygen fuel. 451 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,200 ZUBRIN:We did it in three months. With a very small team. 452 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,450 We built a plantthat was 94% efficient. And no one who actually 453 00:35:10,450 --> 00:35:14,000 participated inthat effort was actually a real chemical engineer, 454 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,270 they were allaerospace engineers, like me, who were simply 455 00:35:18,270 --> 00:35:22,090 dabbling inchemistry in order to prove to NASA 456 00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:24,750 that 19th Century chemical engineering really worked. 457 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:28,280 NARRATOR:With the experiment a success, the administration 458 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,310 had Zubrin givedetailed briefings of the mission plan to 459 00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:34,290 the engineers of the Johnson Space Center. 460 00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:37,200 They liked it, but had some problems. 461 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,700 Dave Weaver was the lead mission architect. 462 00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:41,880 DAVID WEAVER:There were a number of things that we were 463 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,020 concerned about with Bob Zubrin’s mission. 464 00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:48,680 First of all, we thought his estimates of mass were probably too optimistic. 465 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,620 It didn’t have sufficient margins for avariety of things. 466 00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:55,800 Not the least of which would be things likeprovisions for the crew, 467 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,140 the amount of water that would be required. 468 00:35:58,140 --> 00:36:00,480 We thought his assent vehicle was very large – 469 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,920 which meant his power requirements, his propellant requirements, 470 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,580 were much larger than needed to be. 471 00:36:06,580 --> 00:36:11,300 His trip times out were too long, and for very little effort you could get them shorter. 472 00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:13,600 The other problem was the size of his crew. 473 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,330 He had a four person crew.I think virtually every study that’s been done 474 00:36:17,330 --> 00:36:21,900 says that a four person crew, 475 00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,680 for a three year type of mission, is probably not realistic. 476 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,570 NARRATOR:Weaver took Zubrin into his office and the 477 00:36:26,570 --> 00:36:30,630 two men worked out compromise mission architecture. 478 00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:35,140 First, Weaver wanted threelaunches for every mission, instead of two. 479 00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:37,880 The first year, three ships would launch. 480 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,030 A MAV, Mars Ascent Vehicle. 481 00:36:40,030 --> 00:36:43,320 An unoccupied HAB 482 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,260 and an ERV, Earth Return Vehicle. 483 00:36:47,260 --> 00:36:49,880 The HAB and MAV would land on the surfaceand begin 484 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,880 producing fuel for the return flight and airfor the crew. 485 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,460 These craft would spend two solitary years on Mars allowing NASA to test all 486 00:36:59,460 --> 00:37:02,700 of the systems before sending a human crew. 487 00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:06,620 Then, in the third year, three more ships would launch. 488 00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:10,260 This time with the HAB occupied by astronauts. 489 00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:12,300 The other two ships are for a future mission, 490 00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:15,300 unless needed for a backup for this crew. 491 00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:19,960 Once on Mars, the team could also utilize the first HAB. 492 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,740 Then, after a year and half stay, the crew would climb 493 00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:27,370 aboard their small capsule, and rendezvous with the return ship. 494 00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:30,570 This ship wouldcarry them back home in a roomier environment 495 00:37:30,570 --> 00:37:33,510 than Zubrin’s ERV. 496 00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:37,190 Zubrin called the plan MARS SEMI DIRECT. 497 00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:40,020 NASA called it the DESIGN REFERENCE MISSION. 498 00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:42,450 They had a larger crew than we had, they had bigger ships, 499 00:37:42,450 --> 00:37:45,290 they had more equipment, they had heavier equipment. 500 00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:48,050 So they had to do the mission in three launches, instead of two, 501 00:37:48,050 --> 00:37:51,970 but it was done with the same principles of Mars Direct. 502 00:37:51,970 --> 00:37:56,640 The plan was subjected to the same cost-analysis that tagged the 90-day report 503 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,490 with a 450 billion dollar price tag. 504 00:38:00,490 --> 00:38:05,980 The Design Reference Mission came back at a fraction of the cost, 55 billion. 505 00:38:05,980 --> 00:38:10,460 Spread out over 10 years, it could be done within NASA's existing budget. 506 00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:14,980 The plan made the cover of Newsweek. 507 00:38:14,980 --> 00:38:21,060 Here was a mission architecture that was affordable and could be done today with existing technology. 508 00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:47,720 But NASA's astronauts have not left low Earth orbit since. 509 00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:51,500 With the completion of the International Space Station - 510 00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:54,500 and the retiring of the Space Shuttle Program - 511 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:59,500 a debate rages over the future of space exploration. 512 00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:02,700 Should NASA continue to focus on low Earth orbit, 513 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:05,860 developing technologies for the future? 514 00:39:05,860 --> 00:39:10,460 Or should NASA have a goal – like it did in the 1960's with Apollo? 515 00:39:10,460 --> 00:39:16,320 The way we got to the moon was by a Presidential imperative, 516 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,600 that demanded that NASA get to the moon withina decade. 517 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,030 So NASA was forced to sit down, design a planfor how to do that, 518 00:39:24,030 --> 00:39:27,520 and then fly the mission. 519 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,200 Since that time, without the presence of a driving imperative, 520 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,040 we engage in basically a random set of constituency-driven programs 521 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,540 which are justified ad hoc afterwards by the 522 00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:42,270 argument that theycould prove useful at some time in the future 523 00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:46,400 when you actually have a plan to go somewhere. 524 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,000 BAKER:I think NASA has focused on a study process 525 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,020 where the government can’t just pull the plug on their funding. 526 00:39:54,020 --> 00:39:57,340 I think the Apollo cancellation was very traumatic for NASA 527 00:39:57,340 --> 00:40:00,890 and it really transformed NASA from what it was in the 60s 528 00:40:00,890 --> 00:40:03,500 to more of what it is now. 529 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:07,820 If you have a singular program like goingto Mars, then it is very 530 00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:12,020 vulnerable to having its funding pulled. 531 00:40:12,020 --> 00:40:15,860 ZUBRIN: NASA must be destination driven. It is the only thing that allows 532 00:40:15,860 --> 00:40:20,880 the agency to be productive. NASA was a hundred times more productive 533 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,340 when it was destination-driventhan in the period that it has not been. 534 00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:29,720 And we have stagnated at NASA since 1973. 535 00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:40,040 30 years. More than a generation has been wasted. 536 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,990 ZUBRIN:The American space program’s been stagnant for 30 years. 537 00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:47,020 There’s a once in a generation shot right now to get it moving again 538 00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:50,590 by giving it a goal that’ll take it somewhere. 539 00:40:50,590 --> 00:40:53,930 So the stakes today are high. 540 00:40:53,930 --> 00:40:57,290 And if you ask me if I am nervous right now – 541 00:40:57,290 --> 00:41:02,300 I am. 542 00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:04,180 Sen. JOHN McCAIN: Dr. Zubrin. 543 00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:07,720 ZUBRIN: Why is NASA stuck in low Earth orbit? 544 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:11,180 The problem with NASA's lack of current achievement is not money, 545 00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:13,880 the problem is lack of focus, it’s lack of a goal. 546 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,240 It shouldn’t be humans to Mars in 50 years, 547 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:19,150 it should be humans to Mars in 10. We can do this. 548 00:41:19,150 --> 00:41:22,640 We do not need gigantic nuclear electric spaceships to send people to MArs 549 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,710 That is pork, it’s nonsense. The primaryquestion I get from 550 00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:29,370 the American people is, “Why aren’t wedoing this?” There’s a big 551 00:41:29,370 --> 00:41:32,440 sense of disappointment, almost verging ona sense of betrayal. 552 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,750 The purpose of space ships is to actuallytravel across space and go 553 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:38,050 to new worlds. Not to hang out in space 554 00:41:38,050 --> 00:41:40,310 and observe the health effects of doing so. 555 00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:43,680 Sen. BROWNBACK: Dr. Zubrin, in your testimony you were very passionate 556 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,620 but you also were mad. You’re mad we haven’t done this 557 00:41:47,620 --> 00:41:50,400 or that this vision has been stolen from a generation. 558 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,860 ZUBRIN: I guess you could say that. It's like Columbus coming back from the new world 559 00:41:53,860 --> 00:41:58,900 and Ferdinand and Isabella saying,“Ah, so what. Forget it. Burn the ships.” 560 00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:07,420 Okay. That’swhat has happened in this country. 561 00:42:07,420 --> 00:42:10,740 ZUBRIN:We’ve won our point, that there needs to be a destination. 562 00:42:10,740 --> 00:42:12,880 What we need – the point we need to win on now 563 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:25,930 is the destinationneeds to be Mars and it needs to be soon. 564 00:42:25,930 --> 00:42:26,070 The moon program is never fully funded andeventually is 565 00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:29,640 The movement to send humans to Mars, in the near term, 566 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,260 began at the University of Colorado in 1978. 567 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:38,440 When a graduate student in astrogeophysics, named Chris McKay, 568 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:44,240 gave a small seminar on the possibility of introducing life to Mars. 569 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:47,510 CHRIS MCKAY:I got interesting in Mars in graduated school. 570 00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:50,850 I entered graduate school the same year that Viking landed on Mars. 571 00:42:50,850 --> 00:42:55,970 It sent back these images. And it sent back data that showed all 572 00:42:55,970 --> 00:43:01,420 the elements needed for life are here on this planet and yet there’s no life here. 573 00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:04,720 That’s odd. It’s sort of the lights are on and nobody’s home. 574 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,940 And I thought, well that’s curious. 575 00:43:06,940 --> 00:43:10,030 Some of my other grad studentsand I, we sort of got together to talk about 576 00:43:10,030 --> 00:43:14,170 well, if there’s no life onMars now could we put life there? 577 00:43:14,170 --> 00:43:16,570 And that evolved also into thequestion, well maybe there was life in the past. 578 00:43:16,570 --> 00:43:20,730 And so we could find fossils, evidence of it. 579 00:43:20,730 --> 00:43:23,440 Well, how would you do that? Well,you’d do that by sending people there. 580 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,480 NARRATOR:Together with fellow graduate students, 581 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,460 the group decided to puttogether a small conference to discuss the 582 00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:34,140 matter of human Mars exploration. 583 00:43:34,140 --> 00:43:37,220 CHRIS MCKAY:We basically just started a forum. 584 00:43:37,220 --> 00:43:39,960 And we invited everybody from allthe NASA centers and from all the Universities 585 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,260 that were involved in it. And they all came, and it was, it really was, 586 00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:47,820 in retrospect I realize, a very important step toward building 587 00:43:47,820 --> 00:43:50,240 a consensus for human exploration of Mars. 588 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:55,400 ZUBRIN:In 1996, I published my first book, “The Case for Mars." 589 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,670 And the response was phenomenal. 590 00:44:00,670 --> 00:44:02,740 I got 4000 letters from all over the world. 591 00:44:02,740 --> 00:44:07,360 I had Parisian bankers, and 12-year-old kids in Poland, 592 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,010 and firemen from Saskatoon, and astronauts, 593 00:44:11,010 --> 00:44:17,100 and they’re all writing me and saying -- “How do we make this happen?” 594 00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:21,540 CHRIS MCKAY:Bob Zubrin came to the third Mars conference and got very much involved. 595 00:44:21,540 --> 00:44:23,140 And he was willing and interested in forming a society, 596 00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:25,800 forming a group, and organizing. 597 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,880 ZUBRIN:I said, look if we could pull these people together, 598 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,400 if we can get them to work together. 599 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,440 We could have a force that could actuallymake humans-to-Mars happen. 600 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,900 NARRATOR:The group formed The Mars Society. 601 00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:44,500 Robert Zubrin became the President. They held their first convention in 1998. 602 00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:48,920 The convention was just magic. 603 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,660 We had no idea how many people were coming. 604 00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:53,800 They were there, not just from the United States and 605 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,320 Canada and Europe, they were there from Israel,they were there from Mozambique, 606 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,440 they were there from New Zealand. 607 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,260 It was astonishing. 608 00:45:05,260 --> 00:45:11,740 Since its inception, The Mars Society hasattracted members worldwide. 609 00:45:11,740 --> 00:45:15,520 Derek Shannon is the head of the Southern California chapter. 610 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,520 He has met with Political leaders from all over the country. 611 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,480 DEREK SHANNON: If you make them look at the whole Mars vision in historical terms, 612 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,920 it becomes a much easier sell.How will the Martians remember our century? 613 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,440 They’re probablynot going to remember our deficit, our wars, 614 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,140 our healthcare. Thosewill be footnotes. What they’ll remember 615 00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:37,890 is that out of all humanhistory there came a generation that decided 616 00:45:37,890 --> 00:45:43,350 to take this amazingstep out into space. And if you tell politicians 617 00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:45,840 that they’re the oneswhose names actually gets remembered that’s 618 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:52,620 when hopefully thespace program starts going somewhere. 619 00:45:52,620 --> 00:45:54,770 NARRATOR:In order to further the knowledge necessary 620 00:45:54,770 --> 00:45:58,050 for a manned-missionto the red planet, the Mars Society has been 621 00:45:58,050 --> 00:46:01,820 building researchstations around the globe. All of them based 622 00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:07,870 on the design of Zubrin’s HAB module. 623 00:46:07,870 --> 00:46:13,490 Most recently, the society set-up a desertresearch station in Utah. 624 00:46:13,490 --> 00:46:17,080 Here International researchers and aerospacestudents come to do 625 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,510 experiments under the harsh desert conditionsand learn what’s 626 00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:23,670 necessary to keep a Mar’s crew alive and productive. 627 00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:26,670 REECE LUMSDEN:Basically what we’re doing here is undergoing analog studies. 628 00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:30,760 Crews of up to six people at a time come together 629 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,910 to live in a fullsimulation environmental for up to 14-days. 630 00:46:34,910 --> 00:46:38,530 So what that means isevery time we have to go outside the HAB 631 00:46:38,530 --> 00:46:42,680 people have to don space suits. 632 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,500 They have to depressurize. 633 00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:49,690 When we go outside they are called extravehicular activities, 634 00:46:49,690 --> 00:46:55,000 they can only be of a certain duration due to the air supply. 635 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:06,310 We have to recycle all our waterand basically have our own food as well. 636 00:47:06,310 --> 00:47:09,410 DR. EDWARD WEILER: It’s great to fantasize, 637 00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:20,540 but it’s another thing when you have to put it together, when the nuts have to fit the bolts. 638 00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:24,280 Like the Apollo missions to the moon, sendinghuman beings to Mars 639 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,980 will mean putting people in harms way. 640 00:47:27,980 --> 00:47:32,520 There are many dangers in outer space and many things could go wrong. 641 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,510 A serious equipment breakdown could doom the crew to their deaths. 642 00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:42,020 Some argue that the risk of failure is simplytoo high. 643 00:47:42,020 --> 00:47:45,080 ZUBRIN:You know, back in the days when Medieval man 644 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,430 was looking out from Europe, thinking about exploring the world, 645 00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:54,260 the world was unknown and map makers populated their maps with dragons. 646 00:47:54,260 --> 00:47:56,940 We’ve got the same thing today. 647 00:47:56,940 --> 00:48:00,250 There are people who are afraid togo out into space and they’ve populated 648 00:48:00,250 --> 00:48:02,600 their maps of the solar system with dragons. 649 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,320 You know, we’ve got cosmic radiation, we’vegot zero gravity, 650 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,720 we’ve got back contamination. 651 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:18,740 But these are dragons that we can take on. 652 00:48:18,740 --> 00:48:23,460 There are two kinds of radiation astronautsmust contend with in outer space, 653 00:48:23,460 --> 00:48:27,560 solar flares and cosmic rays. 654 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:32,420 Solar flares are floods of protons that burst from the sun at irregular intervals, 655 00:48:32,420 --> 00:48:36,770 and would be dangerous to an unshielded human crew. 656 00:48:36,770 --> 00:48:40,170 We are not ready to send humans to Mars right now. 657 00:48:40,170 --> 00:48:44,410 We’ve got to know a lot more about radiation and radiation mitigation. 658 00:48:44,410 --> 00:48:48,820 One of the Apollo flights barely missed, like by a week, a major solar event. 659 00:48:48,820 --> 00:48:51,100 If it has gone off when the Apollo astronauts were on the way back 660 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:55,000 and forth to the moon, they would have gotten their entire lifetime 661 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,470 radiation dose in that one mission. And that’s just one solar flare. 662 00:48:57,470 --> 00:48:59,430 So that’s why we worry about this. 663 00:48:59,430 --> 00:49:03,730 NARRATOR: In the Mars Direct plan, Zubrin envisions a central insulated core 664 00:49:03,730 --> 00:49:08,340 where a crew could retreat to while the radiation passes by. 665 00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:11,280 The core would be surrounded by all the provisions of the mission. 666 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,430 This should stop any harmful dose of radiation 667 00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:15,590 from reaching the astronauts.ZUBRIN: 668 00:49:15,590 --> 00:49:18,710 Basically you use your pantry as your storm shelter. 669 00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:21,440 So a solar flare happens, the alarm bell rings, the crew goes into the storm shelter 670 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,370 They stay in there cramped up prettytight for a few hours 671 00:49:24,370 --> 00:49:27,520 until the all clear rings and they come out.This is gonna happen once, 672 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,290 it might happen twice in the course of the mission. 673 00:49:30,290 --> 00:49:34,350 The second type of radiation is cosmic rays. 674 00:49:34,350 --> 00:49:38,760 This constant rain of charged particles comes from interstellar space, 675 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,380 And cannot be avoided without many meters of shielding. 676 00:49:42,380 --> 00:49:46,460 We can experience some of this type of radiation on Earth, at high altitudes. 677 00:49:46,460 --> 00:49:50,480 Airline pilots, who spend their careers flying high in the atmosphere, 678 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,180 can receive almost as much of this radiation, throughout their life, 679 00:49:54,180 --> 00:49:57,380 as a Mars astronaut would on a 2.5 year mission. 680 00:49:57,380 --> 00:50:01,100 DR. WEILER: It’s a long trip. It’s a 6-month trip there,a 6-month trip back. 681 00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:03,880 It’s probably a year on the surface. That’s alot of radiation. 682 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:09,120 ZUBRIN:The best estimates are that the magnitude of that dose is not that great. 683 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:14,540 Perhaps 60 rem of radiation scattered over 2.5 years. 684 00:50:14,540 --> 00:50:18,720 Now 60 rem of radiation, delivered over a long period of time like that, 685 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:22,380 would not create any noticeable effects at all. 686 00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:25,920 It would though, it is believed,increase your statistical risk of getting cancer 687 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,060 at some point later in your life by about 1%. 688 00:50:30,060 --> 00:50:33,120 Right now, if you’re an average Americanand you do not smoke, 689 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,880 you have a 20% chance you’re going to dieof Cancer. This would make it 21%. 690 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,920 If you’re an average American smoker, it’s 40%. 691 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,940 So, in fact, if you recruited the Mars crew out of smokers 692 00:50:45,940 --> 00:51:00,840 and sent them to Mars without their tobacco, you would be reducing their chance of getting Cancer. 693 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,600 NARRATOR:With the immense distance from Earth – 694 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,020 never before experienced by a human being – 695 00:51:06,020 --> 00:51:10,220 with the constant dangers of outer spacesurrounding their small, life-sustaining craft, 696 00:51:10,220 --> 00:51:16,150 and with no where else to go, the psychological impact on a crew could be sever. 697 00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:22,360 FRANKLIN CHANG-DIAZ: Fear is real. It would be, to me, abnormal for a person to not feel the fear 698 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:27,260 of getting on a rocket and launchinginto space and going to Mars. 699 00:51:27,260 --> 00:51:32,880 So I think fear is a very normal thing that all astronauts, in fact, are supposed to have. 700 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:38,830 And I would be afraid to fly with someone who does not have fear. 701 00:51:38,830 --> 00:51:42,840 Some psychologists worry that "cabin fever" could set in 702 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,320 and the crew might literally go crazy. 703 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,960 ZUBRIN: The human-Mars-mission is a more rigorous and difficult condition 704 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,070 than most of us experience in daily life. 705 00:51:53,070 --> 00:51:58,640 But it is hardly more difficult situation than many people have endured throughout human history. 706 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,980 We could compare the Mars crew to the crew 707 00:52:00,980 --> 00:52:04,140 of 19th century, or prior, sailing vessels. 708 00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:06,980 Many of whom were away from home forthree years or more than three years, 709 00:52:06,980 --> 00:52:10,800 under conditions in which they’re eating extremely bad food, 710 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,520 without any medical knowledge to support their health, commanded by brutal officers. 711 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,260 In every respect the crew of a human-Mars-mission 712 00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:22,100 with the full support of Mission support and the whole world cheering for them 713 00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:26,020 and great rewards waiting for them, in life, upon their return, 714 00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:28,800 is in a vastly superior condition. 715 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,540 NARRATOR: The Mars Direct crew will spend most of their time inside the two story HAB, 716 00:52:33,540 --> 00:52:37,020 carefully designed to promote psychological well-being 717 00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:39,050 despite the confinement. 718 00:52:39,050 --> 00:52:41,300 KURT MICHEELS: The space where I think everybody would spend the most time, 719 00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:45,140 you know, just like a lot of homes on Earth, would be the galley/war room area. 720 00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:49,880 There would be chairs, a table, some kind of large screen for entertainment. 721 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,080 You would have the individual staterooms – 722 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,340 about four or five feet wide. 723 00:52:54,340 --> 00:52:58,100 The ability for them to communicate with loved ones, or with colleagues on Earth, 724 00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:00,700 I think will be almost unlimited. 725 00:53:00,700 --> 00:53:05,400 A Mars crew will need to be carefully chosenand thoroughly tested 726 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:15,060 to insure their ability to handle the extreme isolation. 727 00:53:15,060 --> 00:53:18,470 CHANG-DIAZ: John Young, who went to the moon, he used say that he could 728 00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:24,850 cover the Earth by just lifting his thumb up to it. 729 00:53:24,850 --> 00:53:32,640 And, he says that, when you go to Mars you are going to re-define the concept of loneliness. 730 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,860 So it is very important that the crew be well-balanced 731 00:53:36,860 --> 00:53:42,980 and well-chosen so that they can support each other. 732 00:53:42,980 --> 00:53:45,460 NARRATOR:Whoever gets picked to go, they will have to 733 00:53:45,460 --> 00:53:49,000 learn to live together for 2.5 years. 734 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,730 ZUBRIN:If you put out a call for volunteers for the first crew 735 00:53:51,730 --> 00:53:56,950 to Mars, they’d be lined up coast to coast. 736 00:53:56,950 --> 00:54:03,670 Most people recognize that what’s left afteryou go is the good you left behind. 737 00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:08,450 And to take part in a venture ofthis character – such a historic character – 738 00:54:08,450 --> 00:54:12,110 of extending the reach of the human species, 739 00:54:12,110 --> 00:54:30,340 this is something of immortal significance. 740 00:54:30,340 --> 00:54:34,140 ZUBRIN:One of the most bogus threats associated with the Mars mission 741 00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:36,560 is the so-called back contamination issue. 742 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,010 Which is this notion that you go to Mars, discover these virulent disease organisms 743 00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:44,720 that you bring back to Earth and destroy all life on Earth. 744 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:47,570 NARRATOR:If we discover life on Mars, one fear is that 745 00:54:47,570 --> 00:54:53,080 our Earth biology will have no defense against possible Martian pathogens. 746 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,910 Some argue that missions to Mars cannot be risked 747 00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:59,640 until we can prove Mars is free from harmful contaminants. 748 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,200 ZUBRIN:This is completely nonsensical. 749 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:09,140 There is natural transfer of materialfrom Mars to Earth all the time. 750 00:55:09,140 --> 00:55:13,640 We get around 500 kilograms of unsterilized Martian rocks landing on Earth every year, 751 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:20,400 and they have been doing so for the past 3, 4, billion years. 752 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,720 And so, if there were Martian organisms that could contaminate the Earth, they’ve already done so. 753 00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:28,140 NARRATOR:Although the prospect of Martian diseases seems remote, 754 00:55:28,140 --> 00:55:33,360 law makers have required that NASA create elaborate protocol 755 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,340 to ensure that any extraterrestrial material stays contained. 756 00:55:38,340 --> 00:55:41,810 And like the Apollo astronauts who spent 17-days in quarantine 757 00:55:41,810 --> 00:55:45,420 after their return from a sterile moon, a Mars crew will have to be 758 00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:49,420 thoroughly tested for any harmful Martian pathogens. 759 00:55:49,420 --> 00:55:53,500 DR. PENELOPE BOSTON:The probability is infinitesimally tiny. 760 00:55:53,500 --> 00:56:00,100 But never-the-less this is our home planet and it’s extremely important and we have to protect it. 761 00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:04,320 The idea of a pathogen on Mars is clearlyridiculous because 762 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:10,200 there is no megafauna or megaflora on Mars for pathogens to infect. 763 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,880 So it is impossible to propose a credible lifestylefor a Martian pathogen. 764 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,940 The diseases that afflict us have been co-evolving 765 00:56:19,940 --> 00:56:24,780 with us and our ancestors and near-relatives for the past 3 billion years. 766 00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:27,410 And they are specifically designed to live inside 767 00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:31,680 the habitat of the human body and to overcome its defenses. 768 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,630 And they've been engaged inan arms race with the human defenses for 769 00:56:35,630 --> 00:56:40,340 those 3 billion years.This is why humans do not get diseases from 770 00:56:40,340 --> 00:56:44,920 distantly related species. For example, I don't know of any person 771 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,880 who has ever contracted Dutch Elm Disease. 772 00:56:47,880 --> 00:57:00,140 You know, and trees don’t get colds. 773 00:57:00,140 --> 00:57:02,060 NARRATOR:When the first Mars lander touches down 774 00:57:02,060 --> 00:57:05,560 the crew will be staring out a new world. 775 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:14,380 A place that, in 4 billion years, no eyes have ever seen. 776 00:57:14,380 --> 00:57:17,100 The crew won’t be alone. Millions of television viewers 777 00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:20,590 back home will be watching as the first man or woman 778 00:57:20,590 --> 00:57:26,360 places their footprint into the rust-colored soil. 779 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,000 The crew will savor these moments. 780 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,620 For here, someday, a new branch of civilization might begin 781 00:57:33,620 --> 00:57:48,720 and future Martians will remember and celebrate this day. 782 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,670 There is much for the crew to do and explore. 783 00:57:52,670 --> 00:57:58,440 One of their main mission objections will be to search for signs of microscopic life. 784 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,760 To do this, they will follow the ancient water flows – 785 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:11,480 for on Earth, where there is water, there is life. 786 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,060 To help the crew in their search, they willhave a pressurized rover 787 00:58:15,060 --> 00:58:26,660 that allows them to explore in a comfortable shirt-sleeve environment. 788 00:58:26,660 --> 00:58:31,080 This means the crew can examine a vast area around the landing site – 789 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,490 during their 18-month stay. 790 00:58:34,490 --> 00:58:37,230 And there is much to explore. 791 00:58:37,230 --> 00:58:40,390 Mars has 58 different kinds of topography 792 00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:51,740 and a surface area equivalent to all the continents of Earth, combined. 793 00:58:51,740 --> 00:58:56,720 If these explorers can uncover the fossilized remnants of indigenous Martian life 794 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:05,080 they will redefine mankind’s understanding of its place in the universe. 795 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:10,430 For if life arose separately on a planet so close to our own, it strongly suggests that 796 00:59:10,430 --> 00:59:22,780 the universe is a biologically rich placeand full of life. 797 00:59:22,780 --> 00:59:25,840 For some, the ultimate question of Mars though, is – 798 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:38,120 Will there be human settlements on the planet? Will Mars become a new branch of human civilization? 799 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,720 As each subsequent Mars mission explores a wider and wider area of the planet, 800 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,740 over several years, an ideal site for a base will be found. 801 00:59:46,740 --> 00:59:51,720 Probably one with a thermal vent that can supply water and power. 802 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,060 At that point, several HABs will be landed in this one spot 803 00:59:55,060 --> 01:00:01,680 with crews that plan to stay for 4, 8, or even 12 years. 804 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:07,920 The HABs will be interconnected and a permanent human presence on Mars will be established. 805 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,010 This scientific community will have to learnto become selfsufficient. 806 01:00:12,010 --> 01:00:17,920 To be able to survive on Mars without suppliesconstantly being sent from Earth. 807 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:22,060 But unlike any other planet in thesolar system, besides Earth, 808 01:00:22,060 --> 01:00:26,060 Mars has all of the fundamentalsneeded to make this possible. 809 01:00:26,060 --> 01:00:32,550 It’s 24 hour and 37 minute day is critical forgrowing plants. 810 01:00:32,550 --> 01:00:35,540 It has all of the elements necessary for creatingbuilding materials 811 01:00:35,540 --> 01:00:38,860 like plastics, metals and glass. 812 01:00:38,860 --> 01:00:43,050 And it has oceans of water frozen into the soil. 813 01:00:43,050 --> 01:00:49,100 ZUBRIN: If we can develop this craft of living on Mars, then Mars becomes inhabitable. 814 01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:53,040 Not immediately physically, but intellectually. 815 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,740 I mean, look, what determines whether an environmental is habitable or not? 816 01:00:56,740 --> 01:00:59,780 Is Colorado habitable? 817 01:00:59,780 --> 01:01:02,900 We’re not naturally adapted to live in Colorado. 818 01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:10,060 We are tropical animals. No one could survive a single winter night here without technology – 819 01:01:10,060 --> 01:01:14,380 such as clothing, efficient use of fire. 820 01:01:14,380 --> 01:01:17,800 We invented our way into becoming people that 821 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:26,360 could colonize such hostile environments. 822 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,970 NARRATOR:Eventually with a lot of ingenuity and invention 823 01:01:28,970 --> 01:01:32,850 the scientists will learn to live off the land. 824 01:01:32,850 --> 01:01:37,970 They will grow crops in the iron-rich butpotassium-poor soil. 825 01:01:37,970 --> 01:01:50,200 And they will produce oxygen and energyfrom the water and atmosphere. 826 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,530 Sooner or later, children will be born, 827 01:01:52,530 --> 01:02:00,200 the first true Martians. Theywill grow up to see Mars as their home. 828 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,960 With time, more and more people will arrive. 829 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:10,480 These won’t only be scientists – but settlers – people who plan to stay. 830 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:15,820 They may come for all kinds of reasons, but to them, Mars will be a chance to start over, 831 01:02:15,820 --> 01:02:22,100 to build a new life for themselves. 832 01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:26,160 ZUBRIN:The well of human social thought is not exhausted by the present age. 833 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,980 And I don't think will ever be exhausted. 834 01:02:27,980 --> 01:02:34,200 There will always be people with new ideas on how humans should live together. 835 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:40,080 With Mars so far away, the hold of Earthgovernments on their colonies will be tenuous. 836 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:46,440 The Martian will need to govern themselves. 837 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,180 ZUBRIN:Mars is not going to be a utopia. 838 01:02:49,180 --> 01:02:52,520 Mars is going to be lab. It’s a open frontier. 839 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:58,540 It’s a place where things are going to be tried out. I think we’ll see a lot of noble experiments on Mars. 840 01:02:58,540 --> 01:03:01,860 Perhaps some of these Martian colonies, with their novel ideas 841 01:03:01,860 --> 01:03:05,230 – based on the best thought the 21st Century has to offer – 842 01:03:05,230 --> 01:03:09,150 maybe they’ll find ways in which humans create society that are more humane 843 01:03:09,150 --> 01:03:20,680 and offer more opportunity for human potential. 844 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,560 NARRATOR:The ultimate dream of the Martians will be to terraform their planet – 845 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,020 to make Mars as hospitable as Earth. 846 01:03:27,020 --> 01:03:30,760 This may not be as big a fantasy as it seems. 847 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,750 CHRIS MCKAY:Here we are in Earth, a world that’s very 848 01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:37,030 sophisticated anddeveloped and complete and anything we do 849 01:03:37,030 --> 01:03:41,660 is just a subtraction.Because we live in such a biologically rich planet. 850 01:03:41,660 --> 01:03:45,500 When we go to Mars, we have an opportunity that we don’t have on Earth. 851 01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:47,800 Here’s a planet that’s died. 852 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,780 Here’s a world that’s not full of biology,probably doesn’t have any at all. 853 01:03:51,780 --> 01:03:58,600 Well there we can actually do something to help. 854 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,520 ZUBRIN:Once there are large human settlements on Mars 855 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,480 that would have significant industrial capability, 856 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,060 we could actually start addressingourselves to the question of 857 01:04:06,060 --> 01:04:08,340 transforming the Martian environment itself. 858 01:04:08,340 --> 01:04:10,420 Terraforming Mars, as it’s called. 859 01:04:10,420 --> 01:04:13,790 Because Mars was once awarm and wet planet, and it could be made 860 01:04:13,790 --> 01:04:16,700 so again through human engineering efforts. 861 01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:19,940 NARRATOR:With day time temperatures in the Martian tropical zone 862 01:04:19,940 --> 01:04:22,600 averaging around zero degrees centigrade 863 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,920 and with an atmosphere only 1% asthick as Earth's, 864 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:31,360 exposure to these elements by a human without a space suit, would be instantly fatal. 865 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,800 The first step to terraforming Mars and bringingit back to life 866 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,520 would be for the Martian colonies to warmup their planet. 867 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,290 CHRIS MCKAY:Well we know how to warm up planets. 868 01:04:40,290 --> 01:04:43,780 We're doing it on Earth. By putting gases in the atmosphere. 869 01:04:43,780 --> 01:04:46,450 On Earth it’s not a good idea to warm up the planet – 870 01:04:46,450 --> 01:04:49,210 the temperature is just fine, thank you. Wedon’t need it any warmer here. 871 01:04:49,210 --> 01:04:54,330 But in principle, if you could trap the sunlight reaching Mars today, 872 01:04:54,330 --> 01:05:00,340 every single photon that’s hitting Mars, Mars would warm up in about 10 years. 873 01:05:00,340 --> 01:05:04,700 Well, obviously, you can’t trap every singlephoton that’s hitting Mars 874 01:05:04,700 --> 01:05:08,340 but you can trap about 10% of them withthe greenhouse effect. 875 01:05:08,340 --> 01:05:12,860 So that would imply that Mars couldwarm up in about 100 years. 876 01:05:12,860 --> 01:05:16,560 Well, a 100 years is a long time but it’snot astronomically long. 877 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,230 NARRATOR:One idea is to build small automated factories 878 01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:25,100 that produce super-greenhouse gases with no ozone depleting side effects. 879 01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:28,030 Although these gases would be unwelcome on Earth, 880 01:05:28,030 --> 01:05:33,400 for the Martians, they would be an efficient way to trap heat. 881 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,380 ZUBRIN:Then within a few decades we would raise Mars 882 01:05:35,380 --> 01:05:37,760 by more than 10 degrees centigrade. 883 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,780 And if you did that that, that would cause massive amounts of carbon dioxide 884 01:05:41,780 --> 01:05:46,020 that is currently absorbed into theMartian soil, to start to outgas. 885 01:05:46,020 --> 01:05:50,380 NARRATOR:Carbon dioxide is also a natural greenhouse gas. 886 01:05:50,380 --> 01:05:54,160 As it builds up in the atmosphere, more and more heat will be trapped, 887 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,060 which will in turn cause more C02 to outgas. 888 01:05:58,060 --> 01:06:02,110 The process will become automatic, as the atmosphere thickens, 889 01:06:02,110 --> 01:06:12,600 Mars will eventually reach astate of equilibrium and stay warm naturally. 890 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:18,020 The rise in air pressure would mean that thehuman colonists could discard their pressure suits. 891 01:06:18,020 --> 01:06:20,680 And walk around the surface of Mars 892 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:30,200 carrying only a supply of oxygen. 893 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,060 And as the temperatures rise on Mars, 894 01:06:33,060 --> 01:06:37,380 water frozen into the soil will begin to melt out. 895 01:06:37,380 --> 01:06:44,840 And for the second time in its history, Marswould have liquid water on its surface. 896 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:49,540 Dry Martian rivers will start to flow. 897 01:06:49,540 --> 01:06:52,060 Seas will rise. 898 01:06:52,060 --> 01:07:04,180 And there will be rain clouds in the skies. 899 01:07:04,180 --> 01:07:06,990 The return of Mars to its warm and wet stage 900 01:07:06,990 --> 01:07:11,050 will make it a fertile environment for life. 901 01:07:11,050 --> 01:07:15,770 Any indigenous Martian organisms lyingdormant will begin to grow 902 01:07:15,770 --> 01:07:31,800 and Mars will be full of Martians. 903 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,720 If no native life emerges, or that life is all dead, 904 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:42,540 then humans can begin addressing the idea of bringing life from Earth. 905 01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:44,650 At first, it would be simple organisms, 906 01:07:44,650 --> 01:07:51,200 perhaps genetically engineered, that would thrive in the Martian environment. 907 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,160 Then more complexed plants could be introduced. 908 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,960 The plants would be right at home in a carbon dioxide atmosphere. 909 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,760 And with no competition and whole planet to cover, 910 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:10,660 they could transform Mars into a green world. 911 01:08:10,660 --> 01:08:14,480 Warming Mars so that it sustains life is rapid. 912 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:19,339 But then the slow process of making the atmosphere breathable for humans and animals start. 913 01:08:19,339 --> 01:08:22,799 And that’s done by plants. 914 01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:25,359 Although the process will happen naturally, 915 01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:32,630 if the colonists can’t find a quicker way, it will take tens of thousands of years. 916 01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:35,749 This is philosophical debate. Many peoplethink the universe has a 917 01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:40,680 big sign on it that says, “Do not touch.Leave it alone, it was made this way, 918 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,339 it is not in our purview as humanbeings to change anything." 919 01:08:44,339 --> 01:08:46,799 I can respect that view, although I disagree with it, 920 01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:49,799 I think the universe has big sign on it that says, 921 01:08:49,799 --> 01:08:52,060 “Go forth and spread life.” 922 01:08:52,060 --> 01:08:53,600 Because when I look around the universe, 923 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,100 I think life is the mostamazing thing we see. It is just incredible. 924 01:08:57,100 --> 01:09:00,720 And, we human beingsare uniquely positioned to help spread life – 925 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,720 form this little tiny planet, which it seems to have been started on, beyond. 926 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,599 And that’s our gift. Earth’s gift to the universe, I think, 927 01:09:09,599 --> 01:09:53,600 is the gift of life. 928 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:59,140 ZUBRIN:This scheme for terraforming Mars is based on 20th Century notions of engineering. 929 01:09:59,140 --> 01:10:03,080 I think I don't think it is how Mars will actually be terraformed. 930 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,840 What you have here is a 20th Century mind 931 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,220 trying to address a 22nd Century problem. 932 01:10:10,220 --> 01:10:14,540 And so, I think Mars will beterraformed by the 23rd Century. 933 01:10:14,540 --> 01:10:18,860 Not by the 33rd by the 23rd.Things that would seem utterly fantastical to us 934 01:10:18,860 --> 01:10:26,580 is how it will actually be done. But it’ll be done. 935 01:10:26,580 --> 01:10:31,219 We’re at a crossroads today. We either musterthe courage to go 936 01:10:31,219 --> 01:10:34,700 or we risk the possibility of stagnation and decay. 937 01:10:34,700 --> 01:10:37,800 DR. PENELOPE BOSTON:The exploration of the solar system and expanding 938 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:42,360 of life to the rest of our solar system and some day beyond, 939 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:47,660 is the kind of thing that will keep our civilization going. 940 01:10:47,660 --> 01:10:52,240 DR. EDWARD WEILER:We’re explorers by nature. Eventually we go to the stars. 941 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:56,160 The question is when will we start? 942 01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,510 DAVID BAKER:I think a manned-Mars mission could happen within 15 years. 943 01:11:00,510 --> 01:11:05,460 DR. LOUIS FRIEDMAN: Some days I’m very optimistic, I think we can do it in 10, maybe 15 years. 944 01:11:05,460 --> 01:11:08,940 Other days, I see all the politicalthings that go into the space program. 945 01:11:08,940 --> 01:11:11,699 I look back on the 30-years we’ve been bogged down 946 01:11:11,699 --> 01:11:18,119 and I get more negative about it andI say it’s gonna be another three decades, four decades. 947 01:11:18,119 --> 01:11:23,740 DAVID WEAVER: I would be surprised if we got to Mars prior to 2025 or 2030. 948 01:11:23,740 --> 01:11:29,220 FRANKLIN CHANG-DIAZ:In May of 2018. 949 01:11:29,220 --> 01:11:31,820 ZUBRIN:Understanding the various political obstacles 950 01:11:31,820 --> 01:11:34,659 that exist and what we need to fight through to get the program started, 951 01:11:34,659 --> 01:11:42,969 I believe that we will be on Mars by 2020. 952 01:11:42,969 --> 01:11:48,659 You have to believe in hope. You have to believein the future. 953 01:11:48,659 --> 01:11:52,260 There are more and more people coming aroundto the point of view 954 01:11:52,260 --> 01:11:58,060 that a positive future for humanity requireshuman expansion into space. 955 01:11:58,060 --> 01:12:01,070 And we will eventually break through the forces 956 01:12:01,070 --> 01:13:36,640 of inertia that have been holding this thing back. 957 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:46,580 The Mars Underground: Director's Cut 958 01:13:46,580 --> 01:13:49,580 Radius Productions, Inc. www.radiusproductions.com 92125

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