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[heartbeat]
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[screaming]
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[screaming]
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[screaming]
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[screaming]
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[screaming]
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Oh my god!
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It's showtime!
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[applause]
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The Haunt is something that,
every year, it can be new,
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it can be different.
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It can be better than before.
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}We built this huge
paper mache tree that
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}was my Malice in Wonderland.
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That was the year
you were the queen.
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Yeah.
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I-- I was the Red Queen,
complete with double boots.
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I still use that
pictures my Facebook--
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Facebook.
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Yes.
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We've got people that have
come through The Haunt
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almost as long as
we've had it, and--
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We have people that say
they came here as a kid,
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and are now bringing
their own kids here.
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Yeah.
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We're almost through this.
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[screaming]
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[laughter]
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Haunted houses are
designed to make us laugh.
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[laughter]
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To make us scream.
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[screaming]
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And they make us
feel like kids again.
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}A haunted attraction is one
of the most sophisticated art
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}forms that you will
ever experience--
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}from visual to sensory.
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}Knowledge of psychology.
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What makes a great haunter
is they're obsessed about it.
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There is no school for this.
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You know, you can't go to
college and major in haunting.
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If you're born wrong--
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I don't know.
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It was 1974, I did
my first home haunt.
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We had a bucket of grapes,
and as they're squeezing it,
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we'd say, they're eyeballs.
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And they would scream.
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Nowadays you have to waterboard
them, you have to shove them,
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you have to get in their face.
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Never thought about
doing anything
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like that back in the old
days, when I started haunting.
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}And now we've got this entire
dark, almost underground world
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}of extreme haunts, where the
depths of society are explored,
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}and your deepest nightmares are
literally put in front of you.
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And you're all mine.
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These are attractions that blur
the line between entertainment,
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real terror, and torture.
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I think the traditional
haunted house community just
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hates us.
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I think they're going to get
all of us shut down, or heavily
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regulated.
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}I'm not really even
sure you can classify it
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}as a haunted house.
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}It's more an extreme
terror experience.
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[screaming]
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No!
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No!
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She's gone.
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She's gone.
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Let's go!
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[music playing]
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This is the infamous
baby barbecue.
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Kids really love this.
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This is our photo op.
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My name is Donald Julson.
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This is Nightmare on Loganberry.
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This is my mom's house.
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}What was Donald like as a kid?
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{\an8}Crazy.
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Donald was very imaginative.
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This has been walled
off to lock the kids in.
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At that point, the
door slides open.
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[screaming]
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}Donald actually sculpted
a longer chainsaw part
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}that had this point on the end.
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I'm like, that really looks
like a sword without a handle.
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And he goes, yeah, it's
for the chainsword.
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And I'm like-- brilliant
play on words there.
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}I like the suspension
of disbelief.
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}I like it that you're being
pulled out of reality,
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}into something where monsters,
and demons, and things are
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}real, and they are
actually scare you.
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[laughter]
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As a family, you know,
we all come together,
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you know, out of
our love and pride,
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and put together this
masterpiece called Nightmare
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on Loganberry.
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}We've had at least
four people pee.
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We've gotten about six retainers
popping out of kids' mouth
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from their screams.
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One of my favorites was a
girl collapsed to the ground
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in the fetal position, and
screamed for her mother.
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Just repeatedly saying,
I want my mommy.
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I want my mommy.
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She was about 17, so
that was kind of funny.
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We scared this poor child
so badly that he took off
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running down the
street, left his sister,
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and his sister's
just crying, Billy!
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Billy!
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The kid took off.
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Nobody could catch him.
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Fortunately, we're
in a cul-de-sac.
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He just went in a big
loop, so we found him.
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[motor buzzng]
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[screaming]
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It's not that
I love Halloween.
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I love watching Donald
enjoy Halloween.
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So, this is my home.
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}I have absolutely
no room, so I have
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}to do my haunt at
my mother's house.
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I start in about August,
starting to build and craft
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anything new that is
going to be going up,
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or repairing everything
that's been damaged.
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I work for Red Digital Cinema.
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I am their security manager.
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I end up spending
most days after work,
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and all weekends here
up until Halloween,
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which I take
vacation to complete.
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And this takes a lot of
time away from my wife,
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who sees Halloween, essentially,
as a mistress that I
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cheat on her with.
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{\an8}We got married
early September.
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{\an8}It was great.
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And we're going to
France in December,
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if we can afford
to after Halloween.
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Last year we
actually made a rule
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that he can't talk about
Halloween until late August.
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Like, around his birthday.
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}And how many hours is the
actual haunt open for?
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{\an8}Uh-- four.
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{\an8}Four hours.
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{\an8}That's it.
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{\an8}On one night.
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}It's a lot of work
for, like, four hours.
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But I really respect
that you do that.
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I do, and I appreciate it.
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And I support that you're--
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you really love Halloween.
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Once we have our children, these
traditions will alter somewhat.
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Not that they'll be gone.
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We'll always have Halloween,
we'll always go to scary mazes,
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and that's going
to be so much fun,
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but when we have children--
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and, yes, when we have children,
we're going to be trick
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or treating with our
children on Halloween.
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No.
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Yeah.
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No.
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Yes, we will.
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OK.
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Well, we'll see.
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We'll see where this goes,
because I am staunchly
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against this.
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I will give you Christmas,
I will be a father--
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You have to come home.
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But I'll be
damned if I'm going
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to give up Halloween for a kid.
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He has to come home.
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It's not going to happen.
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No.
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No.
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No.
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If he could have a career
doing this kind of thing,
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where it's Halloween
oriented, or movie oriented,
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or whatever it is, and
he's building props
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and physical effects,
I mean, that's
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the happiest he'd ever be.
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So long as it matches
the salary you make now.
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}If you don't feel it in here--
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}if you don't have
the passion for it,
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}to want that scream, to just
go after people because you
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}want to hear them screaming--
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{\an8}[screaming]
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If you don't have that
feeling, what are you doing?
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You know, you can work in some--
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you can get another job.
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If the kids on the
schoolbus see this,
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they'll-- they'll
be like, oh my god.
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That's my bus driver.
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I work at the zoo.
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I'm an executive assistant,
so October is my time
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to go crazy, and everything I'd
like to say to the executives,
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I can just scream at the guests.
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I work in the
hospital as an ER tech.
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I've seen it all.
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I've seen, you know, gunshot
wounds, people get stabbed,
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all that stuff.
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And then I just kind of
come here and scare people.
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I take a vacation, I cash
out my vacation hours.
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This is my vacation.
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Because it's a two way thing.
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When one person-- when you're
working one person, and they're
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screaming, you're
having, for that
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split second, a little
relationship with them.
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You're their tormentor.
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[screaming]
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Is like a little connection
between the monster
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and the you.
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[screaming]
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Ever since my first time
scaring someone, it was a drug.
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I was just hooked.
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My mom didn't like it, because
she thought it was satanic.
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They don't get it.
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It's no one else's
thing in my family.
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This is my destiny,
to scare people.
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It's the best job in
the world because you
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get to scare the
crap out of people.
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We had an audience
member chained to a wall.
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Our demon, like,
busted through a wall.
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An audience member had
fainted, and then they
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peed on the floor.
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That was one of our highlights.
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Because you can have
a really bad day, like,
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in your personal life,
and then you come here, ,
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and you just let it
all out on guests.
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I like getting to chase
people around, and have
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that power over them.
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And watch them break
down, and terrorize them.
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{\an8}When I was in
kindergarten, my mother
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}dressed me up for
Halloween as a princess.
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}And I knew something
was not right.
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I told my mother, I
want to be a skeleton.
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First grade came around,
and she was like--
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you can be a witch.
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She gave me a witch's
costume, and it was good,
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but I still wanted
to be a skeleton.
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Second grade.
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Yay, I got a skeleton costume.
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I was so happy.
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I ran around scaring
kids all day long.
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My mother thought it
was going to be a phase.
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Shar is absolutely
an amazing actress.
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}She is so iconic in the haunt
industry, and the community.
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{\an8}We're family.
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Family's important.
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So, how long have you
been married to Shar?
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25 years today.
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Have you ever been
to any of the haunts
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that Shar has been a monster in?
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No.
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I don't find any entertainment
value in being frightened.
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SHAR MAYER: Besides
my regular family,
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my haunt family is
really important.
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}She is the only person,
and the only scare actor
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}that has done the entire
gamut, ranging from boo
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}scares to hayrides.
260
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She's been doing Smiley for over
14 years at Knott's Scary Farm.
261
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To interactive.
262
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Delusion, which
is a haunted play.
263
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I played a creepy old woman.
264
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Hello.
265
00:11:29,922 --> 00:11:31,323
I always play creepy old women.
266
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To extreme haunts,
like Blackout.
267
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She's really, really hardcore.
268
00:11:36,095 --> 00:11:37,763
I don't know how she does it.
269
00:11:37,797 --> 00:11:39,899
She just keeps going, and
it's absolutely amazing.
270
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I hope that one day
I can be like Shar.
271
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Oh, god!
272
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{\an8}We don't mind
the sound effects,
273
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}we don't mind people being
scared and screaming,
274
00:11:47,573 --> 00:11:50,776
}but when you have the actors
shouting these-- you know,
275
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}in people's faces, and they're
seeming to attack the peopl,
276
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}that-- that was a
little disturbing,
277
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}hearing that from our backyard.
278
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Get out.
279
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Get out now!
280
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Get out!
281
00:12:00,486 --> 00:12:01,320
Get out, quick!
282
00:12:01,353 --> 00:12:02,121
Hurry up!
283
00:12:02,154 --> 00:12:02,922
They're coming!
284
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Let me out!
285
00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:06,158
[motor buzzing]
286
00:12:07,226 --> 00:12:08,561
Over here!
287
00:12:08,594 --> 00:12:09,462
Oh my god!
288
00:12:14,467 --> 00:12:16,469
}They look like regular people.
289
00:12:16,502 --> 00:12:19,872
}They look like regular
people, but they're not.
290
00:12:19,905 --> 00:12:22,408
}I would hear the scary
things about, you know,
291
00:12:22,441 --> 00:12:26,178
}what they had going on
in the manor down there.
292
00:12:26,212 --> 00:12:30,182
Some really crazy stuff
going on in that house.
293
00:12:30,216 --> 00:12:33,219
And there were some crazy
people that lived there.
294
00:12:33,252 --> 00:12:36,589
}My real job is I'm a legal
assistant in a law firm,
295
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}in the litigation department.
296
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}The only way that
it applies here
297
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}is we've drafted the waiver.
298
00:12:43,028 --> 00:12:44,897
Obviously there was
something that goes on.
299
00:12:44,930 --> 00:12:46,866
Disclaimers are created
for a reason, which
300
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was also an indication
to me that there's
301
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risk involved there.
302
00:12:50,903 --> 00:12:54,607
And I am very risk adverse,
because of my work.
303
00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,075
And what's your job?
304
00:12:56,108 --> 00:12:57,576
I'm a risk manager.
305
00:12:57,610 --> 00:12:59,178
I don't know Russ that well.
306
00:12:59,211 --> 00:13:00,980
I don't know what
type of haunted houses
307
00:13:01,013 --> 00:13:03,382
he is trying to aspire to.
308
00:13:03,415 --> 00:13:05,951
It was-- it seemed like it
took a turn for the worse
309
00:13:05,985 --> 00:13:07,353
the last year.
310
00:13:07,386 --> 00:13:08,454
}So I went through
it about 20 years ago.
311
00:13:08,487 --> 00:13:10,556
}It was very passive.
312
00:13:10,589 --> 00:13:12,491
}And so now it's a
little bit extreme.
313
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What was it like when you
went into it 20 years ago?
314
00:13:14,660 --> 00:13:16,595
Well, you went through
the side of his house,
315
00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:18,464
and arms reached out
at you from a window,
316
00:13:18,497 --> 00:13:20,432
and then he had, like,
scary stuff in the back.
317
00:13:20,466 --> 00:13:22,201
But it was pretty simple.
318
00:13:22,234 --> 00:13:25,171
And then-- it was a basic
haunted house, you know?
319
00:13:25,204 --> 00:13:26,605
And then since it
got more extreme,
320
00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:28,207
I've been too afraid
to go into it.
321
00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,042
Because I don't like
being scared like that.
322
00:13:30,075 --> 00:13:33,512
It was a much, much milder
version than what it is now.
323
00:13:33,546 --> 00:13:34,446
It was a lot of fun.
324
00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:35,981
That was-- that was fun.
325
00:13:36,015 --> 00:13:39,051
That was, like, a
mom and pop haunt.
326
00:13:39,084 --> 00:13:41,020
That was really fun.
327
00:13:41,053 --> 00:13:43,289
And then people
started wanting more.
328
00:13:43,322 --> 00:13:48,494
They wanted to be scared more,
and so it started evolving.
329
00:13:48,527 --> 00:13:55,000
And I actually don't know how
it got to where we are now.
330
00:13:55,034 --> 00:14:00,906
I don't know what
made that giant leap.
331
00:14:00,940 --> 00:14:03,475
Then Russ started coming
up with these crazy ideas,
332
00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:07,947
and I'm like, we cannot do that.
333
00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:09,281
Cannot do that.
334
00:14:09,315 --> 00:14:09,882
But we did it.
335
00:14:13,185 --> 00:14:14,920
And people want even more.
336
00:14:18,390 --> 00:14:20,459
}When The Haunt first
started back in the mid
337
00:14:20,492 --> 00:14:22,294
}'90s-- '95, '96--
338
00:14:22,328 --> 00:14:25,397
}it was open only for Halloween.
339
00:14:25,431 --> 00:14:29,101
And that took me, probably,
about a month to set up.
340
00:14:29,134 --> 00:14:33,505
Now, in 2008, The Haunt is
open for the entire month
341
00:14:33,539 --> 00:14:36,542
of October, and that means
about two to three months
342
00:14:36,575 --> 00:14:40,079
of preparation, of
building sets and props.
343
00:14:40,112 --> 00:14:41,614
This is gonna have walls.
344
00:14:41,647 --> 00:14:43,349
That's the inside
of our kitchen.
345
00:14:43,382 --> 00:14:46,118
That's Carol right there,
and you won't see her.
346
00:14:46,151 --> 00:14:48,020
There'll be a barrier here.
347
00:14:48,053 --> 00:14:49,421
It's called the
gusher for a reason.
348
00:14:49,455 --> 00:14:51,957
There's actually a
hose attached to him,
349
00:14:51,991 --> 00:14:55,127
so when he sprays water,
it sprays like a firehose.
350
00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,997
{\an8}We handcuff them
inside this cage,
351
00:14:58,030 --> 00:14:59,698
}then we slowly fill up the pool.
352
00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:02,201
If you ever want to have a
simulated drowning experience,
353
00:15:02,234 --> 00:15:04,136
this is where you
want to come to.
354
00:15:04,169 --> 00:15:06,005
Totally effing fun.
355
00:15:06,038 --> 00:15:07,306
[screaming]
356
00:15:07,339 --> 00:15:08,607
You guys are sick.
357
00:15:08,641 --> 00:15:10,342
Sick people.
358
00:15:10,376 --> 00:15:12,278
Scary and sick.
359
00:15:12,311 --> 00:15:14,513
And I don't know
what's wrong with you.
360
00:15:14,546 --> 00:15:16,548
We prescreen people.
361
00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:19,018
We have to make sure they're
physically and mentally OK,
362
00:15:19,051 --> 00:15:22,655
because it is, to say the
least, very, very challenging.
363
00:15:22,688 --> 00:15:24,590
[ringing]
364
00:15:24,623 --> 00:15:28,661
What three things really,
really, really, really
365
00:15:28,694 --> 00:15:30,162
freak you out?
366
00:15:30,195 --> 00:15:31,230
My number one is
probably spiders.
367
00:15:31,263 --> 00:15:32,364
Something in my mouth.
368
00:15:32,398 --> 00:15:33,065
Snakes.
369
00:15:33,098 --> 00:15:33,532
Rats.
370
00:15:33,565 --> 00:15:34,767
Clowns.
371
00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,602
We currently have,
as of last year,
372
00:15:36,635 --> 00:15:39,305
over 17,000 people on the
waiting list to go through.
373
00:15:39,338 --> 00:15:41,040
What would make you
want to put yourself
374
00:15:41,073 --> 00:15:45,477
through two to four
hours of nonstop terror?
375
00:15:45,511 --> 00:15:49,648
Because I want to prove
to myself I'm not a wimp.
376
00:15:49,682 --> 00:15:54,253
2008 changed things
for many people.
377
00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:56,288
I was dealing with
some significant issues
378
00:15:56,322 --> 00:16:00,326
about my profession, and
finding gainful employment.
379
00:16:00,359 --> 00:16:01,760
I was looking for
a different way
380
00:16:01,794 --> 00:16:04,463
to quantify the horror I
was feeling in my life.
381
00:16:04,496 --> 00:16:05,764
And I thought, you know what?
382
00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:08,300
This haunted house--
it's nothing.
383
00:16:08,334 --> 00:16:12,738
So I thought, you know,
I'm going to do it.
384
00:16:12,771 --> 00:16:15,107
Grace, our neighbor--
385
00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:18,644
she can see our house
from her backyard.
386
00:16:18,677 --> 00:16:23,115
She's watched for years,
and one year she came down.
387
00:16:23,148 --> 00:16:24,750
Just, the waiting.
388
00:16:24,783 --> 00:16:29,588
Just-- I could feel my
heart rate going faster.
389
00:16:29,621 --> 00:16:37,262
I could feel my hands shake,
and I started to panic.
390
00:16:37,296 --> 00:16:38,397
What am I doing here?
391
00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:39,765
This is crazy.
392
00:16:39,798 --> 00:16:40,666
This is crazy.
393
00:16:40,699 --> 00:16:42,201
I-- I can't do it.
394
00:16:42,234 --> 00:16:43,168
I will not do it.
395
00:16:43,202 --> 00:16:44,770
I'm leaving.
396
00:16:44,803 --> 00:16:47,539
I come in the house for a
second, and I go back out,
397
00:16:47,573 --> 00:16:49,441
and she's gone.
398
00:16:49,475 --> 00:16:52,277
So I jumped over the
fence, and I made a beeline
399
00:16:52,311 --> 00:16:53,412
to my house.
400
00:16:53,445 --> 00:16:56,281
I went driving,
looking for her,
401
00:16:56,315 --> 00:16:59,351
and I can see her
running down the street.
402
00:16:59,385 --> 00:17:00,719
I ran as hard as I could.
403
00:17:00,753 --> 00:17:02,221
I ran as hard as I could.
404
00:17:02,254 --> 00:17:04,356
She sees I'm getting
close, she dives
405
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:07,092
into these bushes to hide.
406
00:17:07,126 --> 00:17:08,660
You just gotta
get in your house.
407
00:17:08,694 --> 00:17:10,729
If you can get into your
house, you're going to be OK.
408
00:17:10,763 --> 00:17:12,798
And I just get out of the
car, and I'm like, Grace.
409
00:17:12,831 --> 00:17:13,866
Grace.
410
00:17:13,899 --> 00:17:15,601
I know you're in the bushes.
411
00:17:15,634 --> 00:17:17,503
You're going to go
through the haunted house.
412
00:17:17,536 --> 00:17:22,174
I put her in the car, and
dragged her back here.
413
00:17:22,207 --> 00:17:24,109
{\an8}Let me out!
414
00:17:24,143 --> 00:17:24,877
{\an8}Russ!
415
00:17:24,910 --> 00:17:27,379
}Russ, let me out!
416
00:17:27,413 --> 00:17:28,213
{\an8}No!
417
00:17:28,247 --> 00:17:28,814
{\an8}I'm not Grace.
418
00:17:28,847 --> 00:17:31,650
That's-- no!
419
00:17:31,683 --> 00:17:33,719
Please get me out of the chair.
420
00:17:33,752 --> 00:17:35,287
Please get me out of the chair.
421
00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,588
I want out of the chair.
422
00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:41,794
{\an8}No, Russ.
423
00:17:41,827 --> 00:17:43,295
That's-- no.
424
00:17:43,328 --> 00:17:44,129
That's not happening.
425
00:17:46,932 --> 00:17:48,867
The coffin is the
scariest thing for her.
426
00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:51,870
And that's-- that's one way I
got her in, because I promised
427
00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:53,672
her-- like, I
promise you, Grace,
428
00:17:53,705 --> 00:17:55,307
I won't lock you in
the coffin again.
429
00:17:55,340 --> 00:17:56,508
I want out.
430
00:17:56,542 --> 00:17:57,643
I want out.
431
00:17:57,676 --> 00:17:59,311
This is bad karma.
432
00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:00,779
But They did I lock her in?
433
00:18:00,813 --> 00:18:02,548
Of course I locked her in.
434
00:18:02,581 --> 00:18:03,515
No!
435
00:18:03,549 --> 00:18:05,851
No!
436
00:18:05,884 --> 00:18:07,352
And then she lost her mind.
437
00:18:14,693 --> 00:18:16,528
}Have you ever had to
pull the plug before?
438
00:18:16,562 --> 00:18:17,763
{\an8}Yeah.
439
00:18:17,796 --> 00:18:18,597
}There was this one
gal named Grace.
440
00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:19,264
{\an8}She's famous.
441
00:18:19,298 --> 00:18:20,599
{\an8}Gracie.
442
00:18:20,632 --> 00:18:22,167
}There was a room
there where there was--
443
00:18:22,201 --> 00:18:23,836
}I don't want to call
it an atercation.
444
00:18:23,869 --> 00:18:26,205
She was going for the axe,
and she wanted to kill us all.
445
00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:28,607
OK, maybe it was
an altercation.
446
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,742
I thought, we'll just get
the axe away from her,
447
00:18:30,776 --> 00:18:32,277
and it'll be OK.
448
00:18:32,311 --> 00:18:34,246
Get off of me!
449
00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:35,614
It didn't.
450
00:18:35,647 --> 00:18:36,682
I don't-- it didn't
work out that way.
451
00:18:36,715 --> 00:18:37,649
I'm gonna kill you!
452
00:18:37,683 --> 00:18:38,617
Give me the axe!
453
00:18:38,650 --> 00:18:39,551
No!
454
00:18:39,585 --> 00:18:40,619
I'll kill you first!
455
00:18:40,652 --> 00:18:42,187
So what do you think, Billy?
456
00:18:42,221 --> 00:18:42,921
Is this something,
seriously, that you
457
00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:43,755
feel comfortable doing?
458
00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:45,190
I don't know.
459
00:18:45,224 --> 00:18:46,358
I just, uh-- kind
of don't really
460
00:18:46,391 --> 00:18:47,593
know what I'm getting into yet.
461
00:18:47,626 --> 00:18:48,827
So I want to make sure.
462
00:18:48,861 --> 00:18:51,396
Do you not listen?
463
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:52,764
I got the axe.
464
00:18:52,798 --> 00:18:54,733
I don't have to
fucking listen to you!
465
00:18:54,766 --> 00:18:56,668
I'm in this to have
fun, but I'm not in this
466
00:18:56,702 --> 00:18:58,637
to get my head cut
off with an axe, so--
467
00:18:58,670 --> 00:19:00,472
Well, lucky for you
it's just a prop axe,
468
00:19:00,506 --> 00:19:01,907
so-- it would just-- you
know, it wouldn't actually cut
469
00:19:01,940 --> 00:19:03,542
your head off.
470
00:19:03,575 --> 00:19:05,277
But we had to take her
out, so it happens.
471
00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:07,279
But just keep in mind, this
is just a big show, man.
472
00:19:07,312 --> 00:19:08,213
Just a play.
473
00:19:08,247 --> 00:19:09,281
This is just a play.
474
00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:10,649
We're putting on a big old play.
475
00:19:10,682 --> 00:19:11,884
Like in the old movies,
back in the '40s.
476
00:19:11,917 --> 00:19:13,685
Just putting on a
show, everybody!
477
00:19:13,719 --> 00:19:14,620
Yea!
478
00:19:14,653 --> 00:19:16,321
Just putting on a play.
479
00:19:16,355 --> 00:19:17,589
That's-- you know, Mickey
Rooney and Judy Garland.
480
00:19:17,623 --> 00:19:19,791
Let's do it.
481
00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:21,693
I was terrorized.
482
00:19:21,727 --> 00:19:24,329
And it took me a long time to
get over it the first time.
483
00:19:24,363 --> 00:19:24,863
It took me months.
484
00:19:29,568 --> 00:19:30,602
Now, you say the first time.
485
00:19:33,372 --> 00:19:34,573
The The first time.
486
00:19:34,606 --> 00:19:35,874
Because--
487
00:19:35,908 --> 00:19:37,476
And the first
time, I went alone.
488
00:19:37,509 --> 00:19:40,812
Yeah, but then you
went-- you went back.
489
00:19:40,846 --> 00:19:42,514
I did.
490
00:19:42,548 --> 00:19:45,384
I tricked her into The
Haunt three different times.
491
00:19:45,417 --> 00:19:47,719
Well, why did you--
492
00:19:47,753 --> 00:19:48,420
Why?
493
00:19:48,453 --> 00:19:49,388
Why?
494
00:19:49,421 --> 00:19:50,756
Why did you tell her--
495
00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:52,591
Because I want the
footage, that's why.
496
00:19:52,624 --> 00:19:54,660
Because I'll do anything to
get that special footage.
497
00:19:54,693 --> 00:19:56,962
There's live snakes
i this room, Grace.
498
00:19:56,995 --> 00:19:57,896
Oh, god.
499
00:19:57,930 --> 00:19:59,331
You said there was--
500
00:19:59,364 --> 00:20:00,666
We lied.
501
00:20:00,699 --> 00:20:02,334
There was nothing that said--
502
00:20:02,367 --> 00:20:03,969
We lied!
503
00:20:04,002 --> 00:20:06,972
So while I do and say just
about anything, I guess I will.
504
00:20:07,005 --> 00:20:11,743
Because as a filmmaker, you're
thinking about the shot.
505
00:20:11,777 --> 00:20:15,614
I probably wouldn't do The Haunt
if I wasn't able to film it,
506
00:20:15,647 --> 00:20:19,585
because I want the world
to see what I'm doing.
507
00:20:19,618 --> 00:20:22,654
}It's known as McKamey Manor,
the most outrageous haunt
508
00:20:22,688 --> 00:20:24,323
{\an8}in the country.
509
00:20:24,356 --> 00:20:26,592
{\an8}[laughter]
510
00:20:26,625 --> 00:20:28,493
}Extreme haunts, where
they're grabbing you,
511
00:20:28,527 --> 00:20:30,862
}spitting in your faces, hitting
you, and doing everything--
512
00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:31,830
{\an8}that was--
513
00:20:31,863 --> 00:20:33,465
}that was my childhood.
514
00:20:33,498 --> 00:20:35,067
That was big brothers
being big brothers.
515
00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:37,636
If you put me in a room
with a boxcutter, a chair,
516
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:39,371
and some duct tape,
I guarantee you
517
00:20:39,404 --> 00:20:41,607
you'll have the most horrifying
experience in your life.
518
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,542
I don't see that as
having any skill at all.
519
00:20:43,575 --> 00:20:45,077
It's a hack job.
520
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:47,512
}Why do anybody go to
this extreme to get scared?
521
00:20:47,546 --> 00:20:49,548
Don't you think that's
a little too much?
522
00:20:49,581 --> 00:20:51,416
We're in a world of extremes.
523
00:20:51,450 --> 00:20:53,385
}Someone's trying to
outdo somebody else,
524
00:20:53,418 --> 00:20:56,855
}and I there's a lot of
trends that are going on.
525
00:20:56,888 --> 00:20:58,490
I mean, how often
is someone going
526
00:20:58,523 --> 00:21:00,726
to want to have a bag
put over their head,
527
00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:02,461
and have a gun
stuffed in their face?
528
00:21:02,494 --> 00:21:02,961
[gunshot]
529
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:06,465
}So it's deeply ironic
that there's actually
530
00:21:06,498 --> 00:21:09,868
}a lot of fear in the fear based
industry, especially when it
531
00:21:09,901 --> 00:21:13,672
}comes to new content, new
ways of scaring people,
532
00:21:13,705 --> 00:21:15,440
}embracing new ideas.
533
00:21:15,474 --> 00:21:17,075
There are a lot of
haunted houses out there
534
00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:20,345
that have been doing it the
same way for a long time.
535
00:21:20,379 --> 00:21:22,881
}[camera shutter clicking]
536
00:21:25,817 --> 00:21:27,486
Horror is fantasy.
537
00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:28,754
It's escapism.
538
00:21:28,787 --> 00:21:31,657
{\an8}There's a reason
why the horror genre
539
00:21:31,690 --> 00:21:33,392
}was born in the Depression.
540
00:21:33,425 --> 00:21:35,360
}You know, why Universal's
classic horror films--
541
00:21:35,394 --> 00:21:37,696
}"Dracula," "Frankenstein," and
"The Wolfman," "The Mummy--"
542
00:21:37,729 --> 00:21:39,898
}all those films were
born in the depression
543
00:21:39,931 --> 00:21:43,602
}because people needed escape.
544
00:21:43,635 --> 00:21:46,505
In the early 1900s, a lot
of American amusement parks
545
00:21:46,538 --> 00:21:48,073
couldn't afford to
build a rollercoaster,
546
00:21:48,106 --> 00:21:49,941
and instead they'd go
for the cheap thrills,
547
00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:52,077
and build a haunted house.
548
00:21:52,110 --> 00:21:55,547
}The JCs, the Junior
Chamber of Commerce,
549
00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:58,517
}they were involved with
Halloween events dating back
550
00:21:58,550 --> 00:22:00,752
}to the '20s, and into the '50s.
551
00:22:00,786 --> 00:22:03,021
Doing Halloween
parades in the '60s.
552
00:22:03,055 --> 00:22:05,390
And then by the
early '70s they were
553
00:22:05,424 --> 00:22:09,161
doing the JC haunted houses.
554
00:22:09,194 --> 00:22:12,564
}Dracula grabs his victim
and hauls her away,
555
00:22:12,597 --> 00:22:14,633
}down inside of the casket.
556
00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:17,669
Obviously she's a plant.
557
00:22:17,703 --> 00:22:19,438
Now, don't get too
close to the audience
558
00:22:19,471 --> 00:22:20,572
if you're playing a monster.
559
00:22:20,605 --> 00:22:22,174
They're liable to strike back.
560
00:22:22,207 --> 00:22:25,844
And here in Livonia, Michigan,
these enterprising JC's
561
00:22:25,877 --> 00:22:29,748
ran 20,000 to 30,000 kids and
adults through this house.
562
00:22:32,784 --> 00:22:34,186
They did them for
fundraisers then,
563
00:22:34,219 --> 00:22:37,456
and they still do
them to this day.
564
00:22:37,489 --> 00:22:38,824
{\an8}What a lot of
people don't realize
565
00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:40,459
}is an evangelical
Christian group
566
00:22:40,492 --> 00:22:42,194
}called Youth For Christ
was one of the biggest
567
00:22:42,227 --> 00:22:43,795
}influences on haunting.
568
00:22:43,829 --> 00:22:45,831
They started Campus
Life Haunted Houses.
569
00:22:45,864 --> 00:22:48,667
The first haunt I ever went
to was something called Campus
570
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:51,436
Life, and I remember being
just terrified of going
571
00:22:51,470 --> 00:22:52,771
through that.
572
00:22:52,804 --> 00:22:54,973
}It was Campus Life
that created a lot
573
00:22:55,006 --> 00:22:56,842
{\an8}of the standard
elements that are found
574
00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:59,511
}in haunted attractions today.
575
00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:01,446
They did the-- you know,
the checkered rooms.
576
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,715
They did the-- you
know, the surgery scene.
577
00:23:03,749 --> 00:23:05,751
They did the clowns.
578
00:23:05,784 --> 00:23:10,055
And this was an effort to
get youth more involved
579
00:23:10,088 --> 00:23:11,857
with the church.
580
00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:13,225
When I went through that
and came out the other side,
581
00:23:13,258 --> 00:23:14,960
it was like, wow, that's
what I want to do.
582
00:23:14,993 --> 00:23:17,796
I want to create
haunted attractions.
583
00:23:17,829 --> 00:23:20,799
In the mid to late
'80s to early '90s,
584
00:23:20,832 --> 00:23:23,702
Not Scary Farm was Halloween.
585
00:23:23,735 --> 00:23:27,072
In 1973, Knott's Berry Farm
became the world's first theme
586
00:23:27,105 --> 00:23:29,541
park haunt.
587
00:23:29,574 --> 00:23:31,743
}They changed the whole theme
park over for Halloween
588
00:23:31,777 --> 00:23:33,745
}to a Halloween event.
589
00:23:33,779 --> 00:23:36,515
[screaming]
590
00:23:37,015 --> 00:23:37,949
Hi!
591
00:23:37,983 --> 00:23:39,651
[screaming]
592
00:23:39,684 --> 00:23:41,953
}The tried and true,
traditional haunted houses
593
00:23:41,987 --> 00:23:44,689
}that you see, that
you've seen forever--
594
00:23:44,723 --> 00:23:46,625
}they're the ones that
are the most successful,
595
00:23:46,658 --> 00:23:47,993
{\an8}and they're the
ones that are going
596
00:23:48,026 --> 00:23:49,194
}to continue to be successful.
597
00:23:49,227 --> 00:23:50,228
{\an8}[screaming]
598
00:23:51,229 --> 00:23:52,697
}So it's kind of crazy.
599
00:23:52,731 --> 00:23:54,166
{\an8}I'm basically,
like, a 10-year-old.
600
00:23:54,199 --> 00:23:55,867
}I get to do what I
dreamed of doing as a kid,
601
00:23:55,901 --> 00:23:57,736
}only I do it on the
biggest stage in the world
602
00:23:57,769 --> 00:23:59,104
}for this type o event.
603
00:23:59,137 --> 00:24:01,740
}John Murdy is living
my personal dream.
604
00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:03,642
He started off as
a home haunter.
605
00:24:03,675 --> 00:24:06,711
He is now the creative director
for Universal Halloween Horror
606
00:24:06,745 --> 00:24:08,580
Nights, which, as
far as I'm concerned,
607
00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:10,982
is the best in the country.
608
00:24:11,016 --> 00:24:13,919
His work is a tremendous
inspiration to me.
609
00:24:13,952 --> 00:24:16,254
The man should be knighted,
as far as I'm concerned.
610
00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:19,057
My favorite haunt
would be Universal.
611
00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:21,726
You know, I mean, how do
you beat those guys, right?
612
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,863
}You know, you got the
sets, and you got the--
613
00:24:24,896 --> 00:24:25,897
}the production value.
614
00:24:25,931 --> 00:24:27,632
}And I love all that stuff.
615
00:24:27,666 --> 00:24:29,901
}I'm a-- I'm a sucker for
all the bells and whistles.
616
00:24:29,935 --> 00:24:33,972
Now, just imagine what you could
do with their sets and props,
617
00:24:34,005 --> 00:24:36,007
but turning it into
an extreme scenario.
618
00:24:36,041 --> 00:24:37,876
That's what I think
about when I go through.
619
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:39,010
[screaming]
620
00:24:40,912 --> 00:24:42,747
}The good old haunted house,
we confront our biggest fears.
621
00:24:42,781 --> 00:24:45,951
}It makes us feel confident,
like we overcame.
622
00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:48,753
}There are so many things in this
world that we can't control.
623
00:24:48,787 --> 00:24:50,722
}Very big things that
we can't control,
624
00:24:50,755 --> 00:24:55,293
}like economic failure,
terrorism, war.
625
00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:56,862
September 11th.
626
00:24:56,895 --> 00:24:59,965
Thoughts definitely
arose at Knotts'.
627
00:24:59,998 --> 00:25:03,902
}Are people going to be in
the mood for Halloween?
628
00:25:03,935 --> 00:25:06,271
And the guests
flooded the gates.
629
00:25:06,304 --> 00:25:09,107
The park sold out.
630
00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:12,978
}2003 was the first
time most people had ever
631
00:25:13,011 --> 00:25:14,880
}seen any real life torture.
632
00:25:19,150 --> 00:25:21,052
And it changed the horror genre.
633
00:25:21,086 --> 00:25:23,622
"Saw," James Wan's
first film, would go on
634
00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:26,358
to produce one of the largest
horror franchises today.
635
00:25:26,391 --> 00:25:30,862
}From there we saw the
birth of torture porn.
636
00:25:30,896 --> 00:25:32,664
{\an8}After Gitmo and
waterboarding came
637
00:25:32,697 --> 00:25:34,733
}to light to the vast
American public,
638
00:25:34,766 --> 00:25:38,236
}we saw "Hostel," which took
it to another extreme level
639
00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:42,140
{\an8}with detailed,
realistic violence.
640
00:25:42,173 --> 00:25:45,243
We grew this event, by
the way, in the recession.
641
00:25:45,277 --> 00:25:47,712
The worst economic
crisis this country
642
00:25:47,746 --> 00:25:49,848
has seen since the
Great Depression.
643
00:25:49,881 --> 00:25:51,917
}What in the world is
happening on Wall Street?
644
00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:53,752
{\an8}And I remember
reporters coming up to me
645
00:25:53,785 --> 00:25:55,887
}and going, you know,
what's scarier--
646
00:25:55,921 --> 00:25:58,356
{\an8}Halloween Horror
Nights, or my 401k?
647
00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,992
}I'm Robert Davis, and I'm a
member of the United States Air
648
00:26:01,026 --> 00:26:04,930
}Force, and I build a haunted
house for service members.
649
00:26:04,963 --> 00:26:07,666
This was my first time doing
a haunt in a war zone and,
650
00:26:07,699 --> 00:26:10,135
you know, I was kind of curious
how people would react, and--
651
00:26:10,168 --> 00:26:12,337
[motor buzzing]
652
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:15,840
It turns out that people
act the same as they would
653
00:26:15,874 --> 00:26:17,042
if they were back stateside.
654
00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:18,810
They want some relief.
655
00:26:18,843 --> 00:26:20,812
It gives them an opportunity,
again, to deal with it,
656
00:26:20,845 --> 00:26:22,647
to process it in a
different way than, you
657
00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:24,649
know, just sitting in a
room and thinking about,
658
00:26:24,683 --> 00:26:26,685
oh my god, I saw
something really bad.
659
00:26:26,718 --> 00:26:28,286
We had a lot of people
come up at the end,
660
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,855
and they really thanked us
for putting this together,
661
00:26:30,889 --> 00:26:32,257
because it gave
them an opportunity
662
00:26:32,290 --> 00:26:34,960
to let loose and feel
like they weren't
663
00:26:34,993 --> 00:26:38,697
in an undisclosed location in
southwest Asia for the night.
664
00:26:38,730 --> 00:26:41,132
}I think it can be a
healing experience, even
665
00:26:41,166 --> 00:26:43,401
}for some people, but potentially
very dangerous as well,
666
00:26:43,435 --> 00:26:46,972
}if you don't know what
you're signing up for.
667
00:26:47,005 --> 00:26:49,708
}The first extreme
haunt was Blackout.
668
00:26:49,741 --> 00:26:51,977
{\an8}Blackout was
completely different
669
00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:53,878
}than anybody else's haunt.
670
00:26:53,912 --> 00:26:56,314
}A lot of the things that we
had been seeing in the media,
671
00:26:56,348 --> 00:26:59,684
}and then that we were seeing
portrayed in these torture porn
672
00:26:59,718 --> 00:27:00,752
{\an8}films--
673
00:27:00,785 --> 00:27:02,420
}they were doing to the patrons.
674
00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:04,089
{\an8}So many of the
people that came
675
00:27:04,122 --> 00:27:07,092
}in the very beginning
of the run were really,
676
00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:10,962
}genuinely, like, I don't believe
that there is an experience
677
00:27:10,996 --> 00:27:14,299
}that I'm going to pay for that's
going to humiliate me, and make
678
00:27:14,332 --> 00:27:20,205
}me feel bad, and rip my
clothes, and try to fuck me up.
679
00:27:20,238 --> 00:27:22,874
But there we were.
680
00:27:22,907 --> 00:27:27,312
I've been to haunted houses
my entire life, years on end.
681
00:27:27,345 --> 00:27:29,848
There's nothing like this one.
682
00:27:29,881 --> 00:27:32,784
Blackout is an immersive
horror experience
683
00:27:32,817 --> 00:27:35,787
that's designed for people to
walk through by themselves.
684
00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:37,422
You're alone the whole time.
685
00:27:37,455 --> 00:27:39,257
To confront really basic fears.
686
00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:41,860
I think they were the first
ones to use naked people.
687
00:27:41,893 --> 00:27:43,395
There's one little part where
you crawl through a space,
688
00:27:43,428 --> 00:27:45,063
and there was a naked
guy chasing you,
689
00:27:45,096 --> 00:27:47,198
which was very disturbing.
690
00:27:47,232 --> 00:27:48,933
There's a reason
we use nudity.
691
00:27:48,967 --> 00:27:51,503
It strips away any artifice
that could possibly
692
00:27:51,536 --> 00:27:54,072
take place between
you and the person
693
00:27:54,105 --> 00:27:55,807
standing in front of you.
694
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,409
Because all of a sudden,
the audience member sort of
695
00:27:57,442 --> 00:27:59,244
looks you up and down,
and they're like--
696
00:27:59,277 --> 00:28:01,880
that's not fake.
697
00:28:01,913 --> 00:28:04,049
What are you going to do to me?
698
00:28:04,082 --> 00:28:05,517
I think it's the
dream of wanting
699
00:28:05,550 --> 00:28:07,385
to be in a horror movie.
700
00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:10,855
I got to do things in there
that I've only dreamt of doing.
701
00:28:10,889 --> 00:28:14,325
Things that I would
lose my marriage over.
702
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,796
Things that would put me in
jail for the rest of my life.
703
00:28:17,829 --> 00:28:19,397
And I just got to
do it at Blackout.
704
00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:22,033
I kind of feel like showering.
705
00:28:22,067 --> 00:28:23,902
But, like, holding
myself in the shower.
706
00:28:23,935 --> 00:28:25,336
You know what I'm saying?
707
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:26,871
Like, curling up into,
like, a little ball.
708
00:28:26,905 --> 00:28:27,806
Not what I expected.
709
00:28:30,341 --> 00:28:32,210
Totally awesome.
710
00:28:32,243 --> 00:28:34,312
I think they could have made
it a little bit more intense.
711
00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:37,315
I would love to bring, like,
the pledgers here for, like,
712
00:28:37,348 --> 00:28:38,383
a night.
713
00:28:38,416 --> 00:28:39,484
That would be fun for them.
714
00:28:39,517 --> 00:28:40,919
That would be a good time.
715
00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:42,287
They'd shit their
pants, for sure.
716
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,323
It's an immersion, and--
717
00:28:45,356 --> 00:28:46,424
perversion.
718
00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:47,959
Sex.
719
00:28:47,992 --> 00:28:49,461
Killing.
720
00:28:49,494 --> 00:28:52,897
And-- true-- true theater.
721
00:28:52,931 --> 00:28:55,366
}Because people spend so much--
especially young people spend
722
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,070
}so much time looking at a
screen, mostly their phones,
723
00:28:59,104 --> 00:29:02,173
}that suddenly live events
are, like, taking on new life,
724
00:29:02,207 --> 00:29:03,575
}because it feels so different.
725
00:29:03,608 --> 00:29:06,277
}And you can talk about
it on the screens.
726
00:29:06,311 --> 00:29:08,880
You can say that you did
this, or you survived that.
727
00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:11,182
And in a funny way,
social media has
728
00:29:11,216 --> 00:29:14,819
made live events more
prevalent than they used to be.
729
00:29:14,853 --> 00:29:16,488
When they go through,
the audience members
730
00:29:16,521 --> 00:29:17,422
have a safe word.
731
00:29:17,455 --> 00:29:19,124
The safe word is safety.
732
00:29:19,157 --> 00:29:20,291
}And as soon as you hear
a safe word, you're like--
733
00:29:20,325 --> 00:29:21,392
}that gets you excited.
734
00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:22,494
}Because it's, like--
735
00:29:22,527 --> 00:29:23,828
}Sex and violence.
736
00:29:23,862 --> 00:29:25,063
}You're just, like, oh.
737
00:29:25,096 --> 00:29:26,164
Safe word.
738
00:29:26,197 --> 00:29:28,099
Or-- oh, can make it through?
739
00:29:28,133 --> 00:29:32,003
I just yelled the safety word
in Blackout after 15 seconds,
740
00:29:32,036 --> 00:29:33,371
because I was so scared.
741
00:29:33,404 --> 00:29:34,806
All they need
to do is call it.
742
00:29:39,644 --> 00:29:41,513
And, um-- the show will stop.
743
00:29:44,249 --> 00:29:46,050
Does Victim Experience
have a safe word?
744
00:29:46,084 --> 00:29:46,584
Yes.
745
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:47,485
It does?
746
00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:49,053
There's only one.
747
00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:49,921
Does Freakling Brothers
have a safe word?
748
00:29:49,954 --> 00:29:50,522
Yes.
749
00:29:50,555 --> 00:29:51,489
They all do.
750
00:29:51,523 --> 00:29:52,257
The only one--
751
00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:53,858
Just one.
752
00:29:53,892 --> 00:29:55,960
}McKamey Manor does
not have a safe word.
753
00:29:55,994 --> 00:29:57,128
}That's just weak.
754
00:29:57,162 --> 00:29:57,595
No.
755
00:29:57,629 --> 00:29:58,263
No!
756
00:29:58,296 --> 00:29:59,063
No!
757
00:29:59,097 --> 00:29:59,864
No!
758
00:29:59,898 --> 00:30:00,565
I can't do this!
759
00:30:00,598 --> 00:30:01,399
Please let me out!
760
00:30:01,432 --> 00:30:02,367
Let me! down!
761
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,301
I can't see anything!
762
00:30:03,334 --> 00:30:05,203
Get me down!
763
00:30:05,236 --> 00:30:08,473
}I think that if they
had a safe word here,
764
00:30:08,506 --> 00:30:11,943
}they would use it right away.
765
00:30:11,976 --> 00:30:15,113
Because I don't think
that they realize what
766
00:30:15,146 --> 00:30:17,148
they've gotten themselves into.
767
00:30:17,182 --> 00:30:20,518
}And once you get through
that gate, you're his.
768
00:30:20,552 --> 00:30:22,420
}And you're going to
do whatever he says.
769
00:30:22,453 --> 00:30:24,989
}Because you're not going to get
out of the house until you do.
770
00:30:25,023 --> 00:30:27,025
{\an8}And I know what
they're trying to do.
771
00:30:27,058 --> 00:30:29,394
}I know what they're
trying to do,
772
00:30:29,427 --> 00:30:32,897
{\an8}but the way that
they're doing it, by--
773
00:30:32,931 --> 00:30:35,266
{\an8}it's physically
abusing the people.
774
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:37,101
Even though they
say they're not,
775
00:30:37,135 --> 00:30:39,003
and they're fine afterwards--
776
00:30:39,037 --> 00:30:41,472
you know, when a cat
plays with a mouse,
777
00:30:41,506 --> 00:30:44,943
when the mouse is dead,
there's no more fun in it.
778
00:30:44,976 --> 00:30:46,244
That's how I like to haunt.
779
00:30:46,277 --> 00:30:48,112
I like to keep my mouse alive.
780
00:30:48,146 --> 00:30:51,115
My mouse can get out at any
point, get away from me,
781
00:30:51,149 --> 00:30:52,417
move on.
782
00:30:52,450 --> 00:30:54,018
But while I'm
there, I have them.
783
00:30:54,052 --> 00:30:55,653
I'll play with them,
I'll do what I want.
784
00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:57,956
But at any point, they
could get away from me.
785
00:30:57,989 --> 00:30:59,691
I'm never going to put
somebody in the position
786
00:30:59,724 --> 00:31:01,459
where they can't get away.
787
00:31:01,492 --> 00:31:02,694
Where's the fun in that?
788
00:31:02,727 --> 00:31:04,562
It's not just scaring people.
789
00:31:04,596 --> 00:31:06,631
}You have to scare them right,
so the camera can see it.
790
00:31:06,664 --> 00:31:08,700
}Because the camera is
what makes the movie.
791
00:31:08,733 --> 00:31:12,637
}What makes the movie
is what makes the fans.
792
00:31:12,670 --> 00:31:18,076
He works on those
videos, it seems like 24/7.
793
00:31:18,109 --> 00:31:22,380
And so I constantly hear
screaming all night long.
794
00:31:22,413 --> 00:31:24,182
[screaming]
795
00:31:25,617 --> 00:31:28,319
I've spent so many
hours with them,
796
00:31:28,353 --> 00:31:30,488
it's like they're
my new best friend.
797
00:31:30,521 --> 00:31:31,522
Oh my god!
798
00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:33,391
The guests are the actors.
799
00:31:33,424 --> 00:31:36,461
They are my stars, because
each person that goes through,
800
00:31:36,494 --> 00:31:38,429
I'm basically
editing in my mind,
801
00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:39,664
I'm trying get the shot I want.
802
00:31:39,697 --> 00:31:41,299
I want the angle I want.
803
00:31:41,332 --> 00:31:43,468
And my favorite shot is
up close and personal.
804
00:31:43,501 --> 00:31:45,136
2-3 inches from your face.
805
00:31:45,169 --> 00:31:48,006
That's how we can see
the fear in your eyes.
806
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:50,708
I have to get real fear.
807
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:54,379
It's taking them to the
ledge, and tossing them off.
808
00:31:54,412 --> 00:31:59,017
And laughing as they cruise down
that hill at 100 miles an hour.
809
00:31:59,050 --> 00:32:00,051
Oh, shit!
810
00:32:00,084 --> 00:32:02,153
It's actually very PG-13.
811
00:32:02,186 --> 00:32:04,122
Although it's kind
of R rated, in the
812
00:32:04,155 --> 00:32:06,057
sense that-- of
the violence level.
813
00:32:06,090 --> 00:32:08,393
}This isn't just a haunt.
814
00:32:08,426 --> 00:32:09,494
}This is an experience.
815
00:32:09,527 --> 00:32:11,396
}It's not going to scare you.
816
00:32:11,429 --> 00:32:12,997
It's going to scar you.
817
00:32:13,031 --> 00:32:14,499
Safety is always paramount.
818
00:32:14,532 --> 00:32:15,767
No one's ever been hurt.
819
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,335
Didn't someone have
a heart attack?
820
00:32:17,368 --> 00:32:18,703
Yeah.
821
00:32:18,736 --> 00:32:20,238
Besides the heart
attack victim, yeah.
822
00:32:20,271 --> 00:32:21,472
Yeah, we did have
one heart attack.
823
00:32:21,506 --> 00:32:22,774
What's your worst
fear about what
824
00:32:22,807 --> 00:32:24,542
could possibly go wrong here?
825
00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:29,314
Oh my god.
826
00:32:29,347 --> 00:32:30,515
You want me to put that on film?
827
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:39,624
Folks, of course, they--
they have panic attacks,
828
00:32:39,657 --> 00:32:42,160
and things do happen.
829
00:32:42,193 --> 00:32:45,530
I do want you guys to have
really good improv skills.
830
00:32:45,563 --> 00:32:47,432
When they throw
up, what do you do?
831
00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:49,801
You pick up their throw up, and
you put it back in their face.
832
00:32:49,834 --> 00:32:51,235
That's what you do.
833
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:52,136
Or you put it back
in their mouth.
834
00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:53,204
And what happens?
835
00:32:53,237 --> 00:32:54,305
They're going to throw up again.
836
00:32:54,339 --> 00:32:56,140
Now, that sounds gross, right?
837
00:32:56,174 --> 00:32:58,076
But it makes for
sme killer footage.
838
00:32:58,109 --> 00:33:01,546
And I think that's very
fascinating, because art--
839
00:33:01,579 --> 00:33:03,448
as my father, who's a
painter, has told me--
840
00:33:03,481 --> 00:33:06,284
it's not so everybody likes it.
841
00:33:06,317 --> 00:33:08,252
After I'm dead and
gone, those films
842
00:33:08,286 --> 00:33:10,788
are going to be circling
the internet still,
843
00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:12,824
causing all kinds of
hate and discontent.
844
00:33:12,857 --> 00:33:15,593
And how cool is that?
845
00:33:15,626 --> 00:33:18,463
I don't like you anymore, Russ.
846
00:33:18,496 --> 00:33:20,531
You can't be my friend anymore.
847
00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:21,332
I'm your friend.
848
00:33:21,366 --> 00:33:22,367
No, you're not.
849
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,434
You would have let me out.
850
00:33:23,468 --> 00:33:25,403
And I was fucking serious, too.
851
00:33:25,436 --> 00:33:27,472
I'm teaching you to
conquer your fears.
852
00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:28,840
Bullshit.
853
00:33:28,873 --> 00:33:30,541
I mean, is it-- is
it a control issue?
854
00:33:30,575 --> 00:33:32,410
Is it about power?
855
00:33:32,443 --> 00:33:39,450
Is it-- is it fun to see people
freaked out, and screaming?
856
00:33:39,484 --> 00:33:43,154
And-- I mean, what kind
of person does that?
857
00:33:43,187 --> 00:33:46,090
}I first got involved with the
McKamey Manor down the street
858
00:33:46,124 --> 00:33:50,395
}here at a park where Russ
was DJing, and he announced--
859
00:33:50,428 --> 00:33:53,297
}hey, we need actors
for a haunted house.
860
00:33:53,331 --> 00:33:55,500
Anybody-- we're always
looking for actors.
861
00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:57,168
And, anybody want to help out?
862
00:33:57,201 --> 00:33:58,403
And I was like, my friend--
863
00:33:58,436 --> 00:33:59,837
I was like, that
would be so cool.
864
00:33:59,871 --> 00:34:01,406
Like, I could be an evil
mermaid, or something.
865
00:34:01,439 --> 00:34:03,141
For a lot of
years, we were known
866
00:34:03,174 --> 00:34:05,243
as the haunt that
basically employed
867
00:34:05,276 --> 00:34:07,445
every kid in the block.
868
00:34:07,478 --> 00:34:08,279
And when--
869
00:34:08,312 --> 00:34:09,714
Employed them?
870
00:34:09,747 --> 00:34:11,282
Well, employed them
with pizza and candy.
871
00:34:11,315 --> 00:34:12,817
So you can't get better
than that, right?
872
00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:15,553
}I've been working at
McKamey Manor for twoyears.
873
00:34:15,586 --> 00:34:16,788
}I love acting here.
874
00:34:16,821 --> 00:34:18,623
It's the best job I've ever had.
875
00:34:18,656 --> 00:34:20,258
I was extremely shy.
876
00:34:20,291 --> 00:34:21,726
And then I think in
about a year, I really
877
00:34:21,759 --> 00:34:23,327
got out of my shell.
878
00:34:23,361 --> 00:34:25,263
And I was throwing
people on the ground.
879
00:34:25,296 --> 00:34:27,832
Like, throwing people in
pools, screaming in their face.
880
00:34:27,865 --> 00:34:30,234
I've definitely come a long
way since I first got here.
881
00:34:30,268 --> 00:34:32,904
}After school, I'd
finish my homework,
882
00:34:32,937 --> 00:34:34,672
{\an8}and then I'd be
like, man, I wonder
883
00:34:34,705 --> 00:34:37,909
}what I'm going to do for
McKamey Manor this weekend.
884
00:34:37,942 --> 00:34:39,844
[screaming]
885
00:34:39,877 --> 00:34:40,812
Get in here!
886
00:34:40,845 --> 00:34:42,380
No!
887
00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:44,215
Oh, god!
888
00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:50,154
The kids-- it's just tough
to reel them in, sometimes.
889
00:34:50,188 --> 00:34:51,622
It becomes addicting
once you make
890
00:34:51,656 --> 00:34:54,725
that first scare out
of something so simple,
891
00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:56,227
and then it just--
892
00:34:56,260 --> 00:34:57,562
you can't stop.
893
00:34:57,595 --> 00:35:00,431
Well, we had this
one actress who--
894
00:35:00,465 --> 00:35:02,467
it was either her
teacher, or her neighbor,
895
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:07,505
but she did not like
it that she was here.
896
00:35:07,538 --> 00:35:11,742
And she went way overboard
with how aggressive
897
00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:13,578
she was with her.
898
00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:18,182
And we have-- we had
10 dogs at that point,
899
00:35:18,216 --> 00:35:26,290
and we have a huge garbage
can in the back for dog poop.
900
00:35:26,324 --> 00:35:29,327
And so she was--
901
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,864
she, like, took the
lid off the dog poop,
902
00:35:32,897 --> 00:35:37,535
and she's, like, pushing her
face down in the dog poop.
903
00:35:37,568 --> 00:35:39,937
It's tricky to
try to do something
904
00:35:39,971 --> 00:35:43,774
as extreme and controversial
as McKamey Manor,
905
00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:45,510
and keep it fresh every year.
906
00:35:45,543 --> 00:35:47,478
Because I'm not one to
have something stagnant.
907
00:35:47,512 --> 00:35:49,247
I'm not one to just
rest on my laurels.
908
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,449
I'm all about upping the ante.
909
00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:53,284
[screaming]
910
00:35:54,752 --> 00:35:57,455
So we kind of, you
know, have our moments
911
00:35:57,488 --> 00:36:03,361
where we don't connect on
exactly what his vision is,
912
00:36:03,394 --> 00:36:04,795
and what I think it should be.
913
00:36:04,829 --> 00:36:06,397
I'm like, you can't do this.
914
00:36:06,430 --> 00:36:08,366
You cannot feed them this.
915
00:36:08,399 --> 00:36:10,434
What if somebody's
allergic to this?
916
00:36:10,468 --> 00:36:13,571
And we have a lot of discussions
and disagreements about it,
917
00:36:13,604 --> 00:36:15,907
but eventually we
come to a point.
918
00:36:15,940 --> 00:36:19,877
But it's stressful to
to go from his vision
919
00:36:19,911 --> 00:36:21,913
to what can actually happen.
920
00:36:21,946 --> 00:36:25,449
I need people that really
step up to the plate,
921
00:36:25,483 --> 00:36:30,021
and not be afraid to pick
people up, body slam 'em.
922
00:36:30,054 --> 00:36:33,624
{\an8}You're clearly
violating people.
923
00:36:33,658 --> 00:36:36,561
}When you grab somebody,
you're assaulting them.
924
00:36:36,594 --> 00:36:38,596
When you're holding
them against their will,
925
00:36:38,629 --> 00:36:40,298
it's restraint and kidnapping.
926
00:36:40,331 --> 00:36:42,934
There's no sexual themes.
927
00:36:42,967 --> 00:36:45,369
There's no cussing.
928
00:36:45,403 --> 00:36:48,272
You know, we're not degrading
anybody, like Blackout.
929
00:36:48,306 --> 00:36:50,408
Do you need to go
the sexual route?
930
00:36:50,441 --> 00:36:54,445
You need to simulate rape, and
other really horrible things
931
00:36:54,478 --> 00:36:56,280
out there?
932
00:36:56,314 --> 00:36:58,583
}You know, emotional hurt,
emotional scarring is like,
933
00:36:58,616 --> 00:37:02,720
}one thing that I think Blackout
has cornered pretty decently.
934
00:37:02,753 --> 00:37:04,689
But, you know, we
don't ever want
935
00:37:04,722 --> 00:37:06,524
to physically hurt somebody.
936
00:37:06,557 --> 00:37:07,725
Would you go through your won?
937
00:37:07,758 --> 00:37:09,427
{\an8}Of course not.
938
00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:10,628
Of course not.
939
00:37:10,661 --> 00:37:12,430
Because I have common sense.
940
00:37:12,463 --> 00:37:14,632
Once we have certain
ideas, we'll kind of
941
00:37:14,665 --> 00:37:16,567
throw each other through it.
942
00:37:16,601 --> 00:37:18,603
Chris and I were working
really late one night,
943
00:37:18,636 --> 00:37:19,937
building the set.
944
00:37:19,971 --> 00:37:21,772
It's possible that
we were drinking.
945
00:37:21,806 --> 00:37:25,009
And when I came out of the
restroom, all of the lights
946
00:37:25,042 --> 00:37:27,345
were turned off.
947
00:37:27,378 --> 00:37:29,947
I remember this feeling
being like, oh, shit.
948
00:37:29,981 --> 00:37:31,816
Something's about to happen.
949
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:33,417
And I sort of was like, Chris?
950
00:37:33,451 --> 00:37:34,952
Where are you?
951
00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:37,922
And out of nowhere, he
just came charging at me.
952
00:37:37,955 --> 00:37:39,991
And like, as he got closer
and closer, I was like,
953
00:37:40,024 --> 00:37:41,926
is that a fucking staple gun?
954
00:37:41,959 --> 00:37:44,662
And he just put it to my
chest and started hammering
955
00:37:44,695 --> 00:37:46,430
the staple gun into my chest.
956
00:37:46,464 --> 00:37:48,499
And I'm screaming bloody murder.
957
00:37:48,532 --> 00:37:50,868
And then we were sort of like,
here, let me do it to you.
958
00:37:50,901 --> 00:37:52,737
Wait, is it weirder to
do it on your chest,
959
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:53,871
or weirder to do
it on your hand?
960
00:37:53,904 --> 00:37:55,439
Oh my god, your hand, your hand.
961
00:37:55,473 --> 00:37:56,874
No, no.
962
00:37:56,907 --> 00:37:58,776
But that was exactly how
that idea was started.
963
00:37:58,809 --> 00:38:02,913
All the things that scare me
is what I did with this haunt.
964
00:38:02,947 --> 00:38:06,617
So why would I ever
go through this haunt?
965
00:38:06,651 --> 00:38:08,519
That would be stupid of me.
966
00:38:08,552 --> 00:38:15,626
He is afraid of everything.
967
00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:16,394
OK, stop!
968
00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:17,461
Seriously!
969
00:38:17,495 --> 00:38:18,462
I hate creepy crawlies, man.
970
00:38:18,496 --> 00:38:23,768
He's afraid of snails.
971
00:38:23,801 --> 00:38:25,536
Freaking-- stop!
972
00:38:25,569 --> 00:38:26,570
Stop, stop, stop, stop!
973
00:38:26,604 --> 00:38:29,507
OK, OK, OK!
974
00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:31,475
I fucking hate snails.
975
00:38:31,509 --> 00:38:32,443
Sorry.
976
00:38:32,476 --> 00:38:33,044
I'm scared.
977
00:38:33,077 --> 00:38:33,844
I'm scared.
978
00:38:33,878 --> 00:38:35,112
I'm scared.
979
00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:35,746
You lose yourself
in the haunt.
980
00:38:38,816 --> 00:38:43,387
}When you come out, you're--
you're a puddle of mass.
981
00:38:43,421 --> 00:38:45,589
What did you think?
982
00:38:45,623 --> 00:38:48,059
Um--
983
00:38:48,092 --> 00:38:49,794
What time did you get
here this morning?
984
00:38:49,827 --> 00:38:52,096
7:30 in the morning.
985
00:38:52,129 --> 00:38:53,531
[screaming]
986
00:38:53,564 --> 00:38:54,632
You waited, like, 11 hours?
987
00:38:54,665 --> 00:38:55,733
Yes.
988
00:38:55,766 --> 00:38:57,134
I'll do it again.
989
00:38:57,168 --> 00:38:59,136
Are you gonna come
back and see us again?
990
00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:00,738
No!
991
00:39:00,771 --> 00:39:03,040
[coughing]
992
00:39:04,141 --> 00:39:05,643
This is too scary.
993
00:39:08,145 --> 00:39:10,948
}These guys are nuts.
994
00:39:10,981 --> 00:39:13,184
}But he's making money, ain't he?
995
00:39:13,217 --> 00:39:15,052
Actually, he doesn't
make any money doing it.
996
00:39:15,086 --> 00:39:16,620
Oh, really?
997
00:39:16,654 --> 00:39:18,189
So, the admission
price for McKamey Manor
998
00:39:18,222 --> 00:39:20,858
is four cans of dog food.
999
00:39:20,891 --> 00:39:23,461
He charges four
cans of dog food.
1000
00:39:23,494 --> 00:39:25,496
Oh, that's awesome.
1001
00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:27,064
Who eats that?
1002
00:39:27,098 --> 00:39:30,167
}Which will be donated to
Operation Greyhound, which
1003
00:39:30,201 --> 00:39:32,103
}is a Greyhound rescue society.
1004
00:39:32,136 --> 00:39:34,605
And that's where we got
all of our Greyhounds.
1005
00:39:34,638 --> 00:39:36,707
Russ has a full
time job in the day.
1006
00:39:36,741 --> 00:39:39,510
He works for the
Veterans of Foreign Wars.
1007
00:39:39,543 --> 00:39:40,878
He's a service officer.
1008
00:39:40,911 --> 00:39:42,780
}When I was getting
out of the Marine Corps,
1009
00:39:42,813 --> 00:39:45,483
}I had to go down and file VA
claims, and things like that.
1010
00:39:45,516 --> 00:39:47,485
}I think we talked for,
like, an hour and a half,
1011
00:39:47,518 --> 00:39:48,953
}or two hours about
the haunt, and then
1012
00:39:48,986 --> 00:39:50,454
}finally, we talked
for 15 minutes
1013
00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:51,989
}about what I was there for.
1014
00:39:52,022 --> 00:39:53,057
Talk about his other job.
1015
00:39:53,090 --> 00:39:56,227
Russ is a wedding singer.
1016
00:39:56,260 --> 00:39:59,230
(SINGING) Take my--
1017
00:39:59,263 --> 00:40:01,799
I cannot do this.
1018
00:40:01,832 --> 00:40:03,200
[screaming]
1019
00:40:03,234 --> 00:40:04,735
(SINGING) Take my hand.
1020
00:40:08,806 --> 00:40:10,107
And you're all mine.
1021
00:40:14,178 --> 00:40:18,749
(SINGING) I can't
help falling in love--
1022
00:40:18,783 --> 00:40:20,718
[screaming]
1023
00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:23,120
Oh, god!
1024
00:40:23,154 --> 00:40:24,121
Oh my god!
1025
00:40:24,155 --> 00:40:25,122
Look at my hands!
1026
00:40:25,156 --> 00:40:26,690
Look at this!
1027
00:40:26,724 --> 00:40:27,625
Look at my hand!
1028
00:40:30,194 --> 00:40:33,497
I've been DJing here at
Hazy Meadow for years.
1029
00:40:33,531 --> 00:40:36,834
We have a lot of really
good shows out here.
1030
00:40:36,867 --> 00:40:38,536
Great place for events.
1031
00:40:38,569 --> 00:40:42,940
}I am Linda Haze, and we
live at Hazy Meadow Ranch.
1032
00:40:42,973 --> 00:40:47,912
We have been doing weddings and
events out here for 13 years.
1033
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:52,650
And we met Russ, as he's the
world's best disk jockey.
1034
00:40:52,683 --> 00:40:53,884
A real entertainer.
1035
00:40:53,918 --> 00:40:55,186
What's he like,
just as a person?
1036
00:40:55,219 --> 00:40:56,854
Wonderful.
1037
00:40:56,887 --> 00:41:00,591
He's the warmest,
cuddliest, big teddy bear
1038
00:41:00,624 --> 00:41:03,594
you could ever hope to meet.
1039
00:41:03,627 --> 00:41:06,130
Every home haunter
wants to go pro.
1040
00:41:06,163 --> 00:41:08,065
Do you want to go pro as well?
1041
00:41:08,098 --> 00:41:09,300
I do.
1042
00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:10,968
You know, I worked
12 years on it.
1043
00:41:11,001 --> 00:41:12,736
It's-- you know--
1044
00:41:12,770 --> 00:41:16,207
I don't want it to just
fade away into nothing.
1045
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:19,677
I don't think that people
realize how much money we lose
1046
00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:22,580
every time we run this haunt.
1047
00:41:22,613 --> 00:41:25,316
How much money have you
put into your haunt?
1048
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:27,818
I'm happy that he kind of
kept to his budget this year.
1049
00:41:27,852 --> 00:41:30,721
Normally he spends
upwards-- over $1,000.
1050
00:41:30,754 --> 00:41:33,090
Throughout the years,
half a million, easy.
1051
00:41:33,123 --> 00:41:34,792
Easy.
1052
00:41:34,825 --> 00:41:36,026
Oh, easily.
1053
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:37,294
And probably a lot
more than that.
1054
00:41:37,328 --> 00:41:40,197
Like, his entire savings.
1055
00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:43,767
And--
1056
00:41:43,801 --> 00:41:45,936
What's his budget?
1057
00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:48,272
300.
1058
00:41:48,305 --> 00:41:49,940
And he spent way more than that.
1059
00:41:49,974 --> 00:41:52,109
But still, I aimed low.
1060
00:41:52,142 --> 00:41:56,046
And this is a half a million
of just my hard earned--
1061
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,648
and Carol's money.
1062
00:41:57,681 --> 00:41:59,850
I just wish I had
more space to create,
1063
00:41:59,884 --> 00:42:01,719
because I just want to create.
1064
00:42:01,752 --> 00:42:06,624
}We knew that Russ had an
avocation of doing haunts
1065
00:42:06,657 --> 00:42:08,359
}in his own backyard.
1066
00:42:08,392 --> 00:42:13,831
And so he mentioned to us, what
about bringing the haunt out
1067
00:42:13,864 --> 00:42:15,332
to Hazy Meadow?
1068
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:17,701
So we decided to put the
haunt right in the middle
1069
00:42:17,735 --> 00:42:20,070
of our property, where nobody--
1070
00:42:20,104 --> 00:42:24,008
none of our neighbors would
be exposed to the sounds.
1071
00:42:24,041 --> 00:42:25,643
They have a lot
of space available,
1072
00:42:25,676 --> 00:42:26,744
and I thought, well,
you know, why not
1073
00:42:26,777 --> 00:42:28,112
try to do something out there?
1074
00:42:28,145 --> 00:42:29,813
We got this open area.
1075
00:42:29,847 --> 00:42:31,982
We've got this huge tennis
court, and I'm thinking,
1076
00:42:32,016 --> 00:42:33,617
I could do that.
1077
00:42:33,651 --> 00:42:37,388
It would be great to
have the backyard back.
1078
00:42:37,421 --> 00:42:41,025
And have room for the dogs,
and actually have, you know,
1079
00:42:41,058 --> 00:42:47,665
barbecues, and all that stuff
that regular families have.
1080
00:42:47,698 --> 00:42:50,668
Going out to
check out the build.
1081
00:42:50,701 --> 00:42:52,269
It's only been going
on for a couple days,
1082
00:42:52,303 --> 00:42:55,339
but progress is
actually really good.
1083
00:42:55,372 --> 00:43:00,244
There's so much to do, and
it really is a small crew.
1084
00:43:00,277 --> 00:43:02,713
[machinery whirring]
1085
00:43:05,950 --> 00:43:10,854
He's wanted this since he was a
little kid, to be a pro haunt.
1086
00:43:10,888 --> 00:43:13,924
I bonded with haunts
with my dad, just by--
1087
00:43:13,958 --> 00:43:16,694
you know, starting out trick
or treating, and always doing
1088
00:43:16,727 --> 00:43:18,362
the costume thing.
1089
00:43:18,395 --> 00:43:19,897
And, of course, he'd have me
up on his shoulders, and stuff,
1090
00:43:19,930 --> 00:43:22,199
and I'd be, like,
just amazed at all
1091
00:43:22,232 --> 00:43:23,934
the lights, and the effects.
1092
00:43:23,968 --> 00:43:27,705
And I just thought that
was the coolest thing ever.
1093
00:43:27,738 --> 00:43:30,441
When I was seven or
eight, me and my friend,
1094
00:43:30,474 --> 00:43:32,409
we used to build dummies.
1095
00:43:32,443 --> 00:43:34,878
And we used to go on
the roof, and then
1096
00:43:34,912 --> 00:43:38,449
as the cars would drive by,
we would dump these bodies
1097
00:43:38,482 --> 00:43:39,783
off the roof of the house.
1098
00:43:39,817 --> 00:43:41,785
These cars would
be freaking out.
1099
00:43:41,819 --> 00:43:43,220
Even when I was in the Navy--
1100
00:43:43,253 --> 00:43:46,857
I was in the Navy for 22
years-- even on a ship,
1101
00:43:46,890 --> 00:43:49,259
I had a haunt going on.
1102
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:52,162
I met Russ in 1977.
1103
00:43:52,196 --> 00:43:56,734
We were 17, and he had
a huge personality,
1104
00:43:56,767 --> 00:43:58,068
which he still has now.
1105
00:43:58,102 --> 00:44:01,271
I would go over to
his house, and he
1106
00:44:01,305 --> 00:44:03,307
would sing to me on the guitar.
1107
00:44:03,340 --> 00:44:05,943
It was very romantic to me.
1108
00:44:05,976 --> 00:44:08,445
Movies, acting, theater--
1109
00:44:08,479 --> 00:44:10,981
that's been my world since
I've been a little rascal.
1110
00:44:11,015 --> 00:44:12,116
A little guy, growing up.
1111
00:44:12,149 --> 00:44:13,150
Theater arts major.
1112
00:44:13,183 --> 00:44:15,219
I just love to entertain.
1113
00:44:15,252 --> 00:44:20,124
Russ used to sing at
restaurants up in Fullerton.
1114
00:44:20,157 --> 00:44:24,194
And his dad, and his mom came up
with the name for his company,
1115
00:44:24,228 --> 00:44:27,197
and would make posters
for the restaurants, and--
1116
00:44:27,231 --> 00:44:28,732
What was the name
for the company?
1117
00:44:28,766 --> 00:44:31,368
Musical Excitement with Russ.
1118
00:44:31,402 --> 00:44:33,137
I was at the Velvet
Turtle for a while,
1119
00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:36,306
so they made me
one of these signs.
1120
00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:40,778
He and his dad
were best friends.
1121
00:44:40,811 --> 00:44:43,480
They did everything together.
1122
00:44:43,514 --> 00:44:46,984
}His dad was nuked in
the Nevada desert,
1123
00:44:47,017 --> 00:44:50,320
}in the Marine Corps in the '50s.
1124
00:44:50,354 --> 00:44:52,056
You mean the testing?
1125
00:44:52,089 --> 00:44:54,058
Mhm.
1126
00:44:54,091 --> 00:44:57,061
And he basically was
cooking internally.
1127
00:45:01,331 --> 00:45:06,203
After that, he
took his own life.
1128
00:45:06,236 --> 00:45:13,410
Because of how much pain he was
in from that nuclear testing.
1129
00:45:13,444 --> 00:45:15,345
I know he misses his dad a lot.
1130
00:45:15,379 --> 00:45:15,913
A lot.
1131
00:45:18,582 --> 00:45:20,417
}You think your dad
would have been into it?
1132
00:45:20,451 --> 00:45:21,485
{\an8}Oh, heck yeah.
1133
00:45:21,518 --> 00:45:22,786
Oh my god, yeah.
1134
00:45:22,820 --> 00:45:23,887
My dad would have loved this.
1135
00:45:23,921 --> 00:45:25,422
My mom would have loved this.
1136
00:45:25,456 --> 00:45:26,523
Of course.
1137
00:45:26,557 --> 00:45:28,425
Oh, my goodness gracious, yes.
1138
00:45:28,459 --> 00:45:31,361
Yeah, they were always into
Halloween, and wherever I did,
1139
00:45:31,395 --> 00:45:33,464
and all the other little
stupid haunts I was doing.
1140
00:45:33,497 --> 00:45:35,032
Just, all the decorations.
1141
00:45:35,065 --> 00:45:35,833
Oh, yeah.
1142
00:45:35,866 --> 00:45:36,867
Yeah, yeah.
1143
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:38,268
They would have loved it.
1144
00:45:38,302 --> 00:45:40,404
That would have been
a blast and a half.
1145
00:45:40,437 --> 00:45:42,072
Yeah, that would've
been great stuff.
1146
00:45:42,106 --> 00:45:42,406
Yeah.
1147
00:45:47,111 --> 00:45:48,946
What do you love about Donald?
1148
00:45:48,979 --> 00:45:52,282
}Oh-- I love how passionate
he is about creating.
1149
00:45:52,316 --> 00:45:55,586
I mean, he's the most talented
person that I personally know.
1150
00:45:55,619 --> 00:45:57,921
I mean, outside of
his being passionate,
1151
00:45:57,955 --> 00:45:59,923
he's also the most loyal
person that I know.
1152
00:45:59,957 --> 00:46:02,392
I mean, that's in terms of,
yeah, he does like things
1153
00:46:02,426 --> 00:46:04,294
that he liked when he
was in sixth grade,
1154
00:46:04,328 --> 00:46:05,596
but he also knows a majority of
the people he cared about when
1155
00:46:05,629 --> 00:46:07,231
he was in sixth grade.
1156
00:46:07,264 --> 00:46:08,398
And those are still--
they continue to be
1157
00:46:08,432 --> 00:46:10,367
his core group of friends.
1158
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,302
La Madera Elementary School.
1159
00:46:12,336 --> 00:46:15,606
We were asked to participate in
the haunted house for the fall
1160
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:16,573
carnival.
1161
00:46:16,607 --> 00:46:18,142
I was a dead army guy.
1162
00:46:18,175 --> 00:46:19,910
So they put us at
the end of the maze.
1163
00:46:19,943 --> 00:46:21,445
I would see the guys running
in, and at that point
1164
00:46:21,478 --> 00:46:23,380
I would pop out and scare
the hell out of them.
1165
00:46:23,413 --> 00:46:25,149
I wanted to scare everybody.
1166
00:46:25,182 --> 00:46:26,250
It felt powerful.
1167
00:46:26,283 --> 00:46:28,218
It felt very powerful.
1168
00:46:28,252 --> 00:46:30,420
Most of my childhood
involved some sort
1169
00:46:30,454 --> 00:46:32,990
of physical altercation
at least once a day,
1170
00:46:33,023 --> 00:46:35,025
to the point where my
friends wouldn't come over
1171
00:46:35,058 --> 00:46:36,293
to the house.
1172
00:46:36,326 --> 00:46:38,128
Donald wears
sunglasses all the time
1173
00:46:38,162 --> 00:46:42,900
because his pupils are 100%
dilated 100% of the time.
1174
00:46:42,933 --> 00:46:45,135
And he'd sleep all day,
and then he'd be up at night.
1175
00:46:45,169 --> 00:46:49,206
And I-- and he would complain
that it was from headaches.
1176
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,143
I took him to a really
special doctor over at UCI,
1177
00:46:53,177 --> 00:46:56,146
and he goes, well, he's
got dilated pupils.
1178
00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:59,349
Well, I already knew that.
1179
00:46:59,383 --> 00:47:02,319
There was nothing we
could do to fix it.
1180
00:47:02,352 --> 00:47:07,591
And he said it might
be head trauma, which,
1181
00:47:07,624 --> 00:47:10,093
the way his brothers used
to kind of beat up on him,
1182
00:47:10,127 --> 00:47:12,129
wouldn't surprise me.
1183
00:47:12,162 --> 00:47:16,099
Nate beat up on Daniel
when he was little,
1184
00:47:16,133 --> 00:47:18,001
and then when Donald
came along, Daniel
1185
00:47:18,035 --> 00:47:19,403
had somebody to beat up on.
1186
00:47:19,436 --> 00:47:21,572
But because there
was three of them,
1187
00:47:21,605 --> 00:47:23,140
there had to be two against one.
1188
00:47:23,173 --> 00:47:26,109
And so Donald got to be the one.
1189
00:47:26,143 --> 00:47:28,612
I've hit him with numerous
things, but besides my hands--
1190
00:47:28,645 --> 00:47:30,214
who knows?
1191
00:47:30,247 --> 00:47:33,116
}I mean, like I said,
bamboo, broomsticks.
1192
00:47:33,150 --> 00:47:34,685
}We've had the cops called on us.
1193
00:47:34,718 --> 00:47:39,590
We've had-- we've had neighbors
yell over fences at us.
1194
00:47:39,623 --> 00:47:44,027
His brothers thought that
if they beat him up enough,
1195
00:47:44,061 --> 00:47:50,133
intimidated him enough, that
he would become like them.
1196
00:47:50,167 --> 00:47:52,369
And you're a Julson,
and you should be.
1197
00:47:52,402 --> 00:47:54,204
And so we're going
to make you tough.
1198
00:47:54,238 --> 00:47:56,306
And we're going to beat
you up until you are tough.
1199
00:47:56,340 --> 00:47:58,275
And when you're
tough, then you'll
1200
00:47:58,308 --> 00:48:02,179
be skinny, and be like us.
1201
00:48:02,212 --> 00:48:03,947
I thought it would work, too.
1202
00:48:03,981 --> 00:48:05,682
I mean, I did it in other ways.
1203
00:48:05,716 --> 00:48:10,287
I would try humiliating
him, and embarrassing him.
1204
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,588
That didn't work, either.
1205
00:48:11,622 --> 00:48:13,557
If I had my wish
come true for Donald,
1206
00:48:13,590 --> 00:48:18,028
it would be that he could
get into movie props again.
1207
00:48:18,061 --> 00:48:21,164
I was a professional prop
maker for about seven years,
1208
00:48:21,198 --> 00:48:24,034
and throughout that I worked on
several major motion pictures.
1209
00:48:24,067 --> 00:48:27,070
"Minority Report." we did all
the jetpacks, Identascans,
1210
00:48:27,104 --> 00:48:28,438
helmets.
1211
00:48:28,472 --> 00:48:29,506
The one that was
done in Transylvania.
1212
00:48:29,539 --> 00:48:30,440
The--
1213
00:48:30,474 --> 00:48:31,742
Oh, "Von Helson?"
1214
00:48:31,775 --> 00:48:32,542
Yeah.
1215
00:48:32,576 --> 00:48:33,343
The weapons?
1216
00:48:33,377 --> 00:48:35,212
Yeah.
1217
00:48:35,245 --> 00:48:38,148
I mean, the physical prop
making world left California,
1218
00:48:38,181 --> 00:48:40,050
with the exception
of the major studios.
1219
00:48:40,083 --> 00:48:44,688
Within four years, I was
lucky if I had two paying gigs
1220
00:48:44,721 --> 00:48:46,423
every six months.
1221
00:48:46,456 --> 00:48:49,092
My brother-- he always
kind of-- you know, like,
1222
00:48:49,126 --> 00:48:51,295
he would dress up and
scare kids for Halloween,
1223
00:48:51,328 --> 00:48:52,562
and stuff like that.
1224
00:48:52,596 --> 00:48:53,664
And he's like, man,
you gotta do it.
1225
00:48:53,697 --> 00:48:55,399
It's so fun.
1226
00:48:55,432 --> 00:48:58,068
And I remembered, you
know, doing it as a child,
1227
00:48:58,101 --> 00:49:00,704
and loving it so much.
1228
00:49:00,737 --> 00:49:04,308
It's strange on how, you
know, my brothers used
1229
00:49:04,341 --> 00:49:08,712
to terrorize me, and now we
terrorize everybody else.
1230
00:49:08,745 --> 00:49:12,349
It just got to a point where
we found this common ground,
1231
00:49:12,382 --> 00:49:15,085
and it's something that we
just both fell so in love with.
1232
00:49:15,118 --> 00:49:17,521
It just-- you know, it
was like planting a seed,
1233
00:49:17,554 --> 00:49:19,156
and then watching it grow.
1234
00:49:19,189 --> 00:49:21,258
A problem with your
workmanship over here?
1235
00:49:21,291 --> 00:49:22,793
Yeah, I know it
will never be perfect.
1236
00:49:22,826 --> 00:49:24,394
Now, he's a perfectionist.
1237
00:49:24,428 --> 00:49:26,129
I get the job done fair
enough, and then he
1238
00:49:26,163 --> 00:49:28,131
goes over and corrects it.
1239
00:49:28,165 --> 00:49:30,434
It's Donald's haunted house.
1240
00:49:30,467 --> 00:49:31,735
I mean, Daniel
says, this is what
1241
00:49:31,768 --> 00:49:33,570
I'm going to do,
but kind of like,
1242
00:49:33,603 --> 00:49:36,540
with Donald's
permission and approval.
1243
00:49:36,573 --> 00:49:39,176
You know, when we all work
together as a family, we can--
1244
00:49:39,209 --> 00:49:41,712
we accomplish things
like the haunt.
1245
00:49:41,745 --> 00:49:42,746
We enjoy it.
1246
00:49:42,779 --> 00:49:44,281
It brings us all together.
1247
00:49:44,314 --> 00:49:46,416
Well, with the
exception of my wife.
1248
00:49:46,450 --> 00:49:48,151
I'm not participating
in the maze.
1249
00:49:48,185 --> 00:49:52,522
I'll still be up there,
with a glass of wine, and--
1250
00:49:52,556 --> 00:49:55,192
watching all my friends
do this for the last year
1251
00:49:55,225 --> 00:49:57,761
that we'll all be together.
1252
00:49:57,794 --> 00:49:59,496
We'll see.
1253
00:49:59,529 --> 00:50:01,164
We shall see.
1254
00:50:01,198 --> 00:50:03,100
}There are some really
strong relationships,
1255
00:50:03,133 --> 00:50:04,534
}and then there are
some relationships
1256
00:50:04,568 --> 00:50:06,203
}that don't make it.
1257
00:50:06,236 --> 00:50:08,171
But, you know, that's
the nature of any kind
1258
00:50:08,205 --> 00:50:09,706
of creative endeavor.
1259
00:50:09,740 --> 00:50:11,108
You know, there are going
to be some hardships,
1260
00:50:11,141 --> 00:50:14,478
and some sacrifices on the way.
1261
00:50:14,511 --> 00:50:23,420
SINGER: Welcome to a
place where nightmares
1262
00:50:23,453 --> 00:50:28,291
are the best part of my day.
1263
00:50:46,743 --> 00:50:48,678
What does your wife
think of all this?
1264
00:50:48,712 --> 00:50:51,181
Well, I mean--
1265
00:50:51,214 --> 00:50:55,152
she-- she's used to it by
now, but I mean, it's--
1266
00:50:55,185 --> 00:50:59,623
she-- I had a skull for a
wedding ring, so that kind of--
1267
00:50:59,656 --> 00:51:02,793
she knew what she
was getting into.
1268
00:51:02,826 --> 00:51:07,831
}Haunting is a very
all-consuming endeavor,
1269
00:51:07,864 --> 00:51:09,433
}if you allow it to be.
1270
00:51:09,466 --> 00:51:11,501
}If you're a partner
who does not like that,
1271
00:51:11,535 --> 00:51:13,804
}that could be a real
challenge for a relationship.
1272
00:51:13,837 --> 00:51:16,673
Has this haunted house brought
you and Russ closer together,
1273
00:51:16,706 --> 00:51:19,176
or is it tough on
your relationship?
1274
00:51:19,209 --> 00:51:21,645
It's very tough
on our relationship.
1275
00:51:21,678 --> 00:51:25,515
}I mean, your wife has gotta
be pretty understanding.
1276
00:51:25,549 --> 00:51:27,150
I'd rather not
talk about my wife.
1277
00:51:27,184 --> 00:51:30,754
She's actually not in
the picture anymore.
1278
00:51:30,787 --> 00:51:34,624
}But he's very supportive of
me, and without that support,
1279
00:51:34,658 --> 00:51:38,161
}I wouldn't be able to
haunt the way I do.
1280
00:51:38,195 --> 00:51:40,897
Have you ever heard the
expression haunt widow?
1281
00:51:40,931 --> 00:51:42,365
Yes.
1282
00:51:42,399 --> 00:51:43,834
I am a haunt widower.
1283
00:51:43,867 --> 00:51:45,402
Absolutely.
1284
00:51:45,435 --> 00:51:48,805
Every October, I'm
a single parent.
1285
00:51:48,839 --> 00:51:50,674
When it came to
raising our daughter,
1286
00:51:50,707 --> 00:51:53,376
you know, I was getting her out
to school, and feeding the kid,
1287
00:51:53,410 --> 00:51:55,345
and cleaning the house.
1288
00:51:55,378 --> 00:51:56,746
And I would never see her.
1289
00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:59,749
}She would be coming home
at 2:00 in the morning,
1290
00:51:59,783 --> 00:52:02,586
}or, you know, I'd get up
for work and, you know,
1291
00:52:02,619 --> 00:52:04,387
}she'd be snoozing away in bed.
1292
00:52:04,421 --> 00:52:06,823
}Have you ever heard
the term haunt widow?
1293
00:52:06,857 --> 00:52:09,426
}No, but I'm probably
an excellent candidate.
1294
00:52:12,796 --> 00:52:13,864
Yeah.
1295
00:52:13,897 --> 00:52:15,765
It gets a little problematic.
1296
00:52:15,799 --> 00:52:19,402
You know, I-- want to explain to
her all these great ideas that
1297
00:52:19,436 --> 00:52:21,571
I come up with, and it's--
1298
00:52:21,605 --> 00:52:22,973
she shuts it down completely.
1299
00:52:23,006 --> 00:52:24,841
Just doesn't want to
hear anything about it.
1300
00:52:24,875 --> 00:52:26,676
She doesn't want
anything to do with it.
1301
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:29,579
Every opportunity to really
freak me out, he's on it.
1302
00:52:29,613 --> 00:52:30,914
Always around.
1303
00:52:30,947 --> 00:52:31,748
Year round.
1304
00:52:31,781 --> 00:52:32,616
All the time.
1305
00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:33,717
I can't help it.
1306
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:37,454
Recently, I hid in the shower.
1307
00:52:37,487 --> 00:52:39,990
And she went to the bathroom.
1308
00:52:40,023 --> 00:52:41,424
No.
1309
00:52:41,458 --> 00:52:41,992
We're not talking
about this one.
1310
00:52:42,025 --> 00:52:43,260
This one was--
1311
00:52:43,293 --> 00:52:43,960
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1312
00:52:43,994 --> 00:52:44,995
This is not-- no.
1313
00:52:45,028 --> 00:52:46,363
This is not happening.
1314
00:52:46,396 --> 00:52:47,264
No.
1315
00:52:47,297 --> 00:52:47,931
This was the best one.
1316
00:52:47,964 --> 00:52:48,598
Donald.
1317
00:52:48,632 --> 00:52:49,533
Ow!
1318
00:52:49,566 --> 00:52:51,234
Just let me say it.
1319
00:52:51,268 --> 00:52:54,804
So, she-- she sits
on the toilet.
1320
00:52:54,838 --> 00:52:55,739
This is ridiculous.
1321
00:52:55,772 --> 00:52:56,640
This is-- no.
1322
00:52:56,673 --> 00:52:58,241
And she starts peeing.
1323
00:52:58,275 --> 00:53:01,011
And at that point, I
pull my curtain out.
1324
00:53:01,044 --> 00:53:02,445
I go, ah!
1325
00:53:02,479 --> 00:53:03,847
And she did one
of those classics.
1326
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,315
What the fuck?
1327
00:53:05,348 --> 00:53:06,950
Listing up her leg,
and everything.
1328
00:53:06,983 --> 00:53:10,353
And I could-- I could physically
see true fear in her eyes,
1329
00:53:10,387 --> 00:53:11,454
for the first time.
1330
00:53:11,488 --> 00:53:12,322
And I was so proud of myself.
1331
00:53:15,592 --> 00:53:16,493
Yeah.
1332
00:53:16,526 --> 00:53:17,761
He let me get into it.
1333
00:53:17,794 --> 00:53:18,562
Yeah.
1334
00:53:18,595 --> 00:53:19,529
I had time.
1335
00:53:19,563 --> 00:53:21,364
Timing is everything.
1336
00:53:21,398 --> 00:53:23,600
I don't understand how you
can be so against something
1337
00:53:23,633 --> 00:53:24,701
that makes me so happy.
1338
00:53:24,734 --> 00:53:25,635
Because--
1339
00:53:25,669 --> 00:53:27,337
No, I'm not against it.
1340
00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:28,772
There's very little things
that make me this happy.
1341
00:53:28,805 --> 00:53:30,607
I think that moderation
is important in life.
1342
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,511
You know, I do love my wife,
but I love Halloween, too.
1343
00:53:34,544 --> 00:53:40,450
And I-- I need to find a way to
make them not hate each other.
1344
00:53:40,483 --> 00:53:42,452
Because Halloween's
starting to hate Jamie, too.
1345
00:53:42,485 --> 00:53:43,520
I'll tell you that much.
1346
00:53:43,553 --> 00:53:45,855
I would hate to see it end.
1347
00:53:45,889 --> 00:53:47,624
I don't really want him to go.
1348
00:53:47,657 --> 00:53:50,393
I think that's a
little out of his--
1349
00:53:50,427 --> 00:53:53,630
not out of his class,
but it's just more--
1350
00:53:53,663 --> 00:53:56,299
it would cause more problems.
1351
00:53:56,333 --> 00:53:57,767
My wife just sent me a text.
1352
00:53:57,801 --> 00:54:00,971
I'm over it, this
Halloween stupid bullshit.
1353
00:54:01,004 --> 00:54:02,906
If you're not leaving
to come home right now,
1354
00:54:02,939 --> 00:54:03,840
don't come home tonight.
1355
00:54:13,049 --> 00:54:17,520
My parents never really
understood my haunting.
1356
00:54:17,554 --> 00:54:21,057
I remember one time scaring my
mom, and it really upset her.
1357
00:54:21,091 --> 00:54:23,927
And she, like, lashed out at
me, and she screamed at me.
1358
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,663
And it's like, don't
ever-- don't ever do that.
1359
00:54:26,696 --> 00:54:27,931
You know?
1360
00:54:27,964 --> 00:54:29,666
The real bad one
was when I finally--
1361
00:54:29,699 --> 00:54:32,936
I got onto Knotts Streets,
which was a big deal.
1362
00:54:32,969 --> 00:54:33,937
I was so excited.
1363
00:54:33,970 --> 00:54:34,838
Who do you call?
1364
00:54:34,871 --> 00:54:36,573
You call your mom.
1365
00:54:36,606 --> 00:54:38,742
And then my mother's like,
you're a streetwalker?
1366
00:54:38,775 --> 00:54:40,877
I was like, no.
1367
00:54:40,910 --> 00:54:42,579
It's ghost town streets.
1368
00:54:42,612 --> 00:54:44,347
It's like-- it's like, the
coolest thing in Knotts,
1369
00:54:44,381 --> 00:54:45,749
and everything.
1370
00:54:45,782 --> 00:54:47,484
And she was like,
you're a streetwalker.
1371
00:54:47,517 --> 00:54:49,953
And then for the
next whatever years,
1372
00:54:49,986 --> 00:54:51,388
that's what she always said.
1373
00:54:51,421 --> 00:54:52,489
You know, oh, it's October.
1374
00:54:52,522 --> 00:54:53,823
You're a streetwalker.
1375
00:54:53,857 --> 00:54:55,458
You're a streetwalker.
1376
00:54:55,492 --> 00:54:56,726
It wasn't her thing,
and I understand that.
1377
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,095
It's-- it's not
everyone's thing.
1378
00:55:06,136 --> 00:55:07,070
OK.
1379
00:55:07,103 --> 00:55:08,972
[shouting]
1380
00:55:11,641 --> 00:55:12,542
Let's go.
1381
00:55:12,575 --> 00:55:13,009
It's gonna touch me.
1382
00:55:13,043 --> 00:55:13,777
No.
1383
00:55:13,810 --> 00:55:14,978
Let's go.
1384
00:55:15,011 --> 00:55:15,679
Stop!
1385
00:55:15,712 --> 00:55:15,912
Stop!
1386
00:55:20,483 --> 00:55:22,786
Please don't throw up.
1387
00:55:22,819 --> 00:55:25,655
[screaming]
1388
00:55:30,627 --> 00:55:34,464
Let's go, let's go.
1389
00:55:34,497 --> 00:55:35,165
I have a question.
1390
00:55:35,198 --> 00:55:37,100
}Did you have fun?
1391
00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:39,703
{\an8}Oh, yeah.
1392
00:55:39,736 --> 00:55:42,105
{\an8}Yeah.
1393
00:55:42,138 --> 00:55:44,841
}It just seems crazy to
me that someone's purposely
1394
00:55:44,874 --> 00:55:48,445
}scaring themselves, and
paying money to do it.
1395
00:55:48,478 --> 00:55:51,681
}When I am scared, I
get defensive myself.
1396
00:55:51,715 --> 00:55:54,984
And in some instances
I become violent.
1397
00:55:55,018 --> 00:55:58,988
As a monster, we know
the fight or flight.
1398
00:55:59,022 --> 00:56:00,757
[screaming]
1399
00:56:02,525 --> 00:56:05,161
And a lot of times, you
scare somebody, they do this.
1400
00:56:05,195 --> 00:56:07,063
Are you going
trick or treating?
1401
00:56:07,097 --> 00:56:08,665
No.
1402
00:56:08,698 --> 00:56:09,733
Whoa.
1403
00:56:09,766 --> 00:56:11,634
}Be safe, stay on their face.
1404
00:56:11,668 --> 00:56:13,737
}You'll know when someone's going
to hit you, most of the time.
1405
00:56:13,770 --> 00:56:14,771
}Get out of the way.
1406
00:56:14,804 --> 00:56:16,673
They push back, or they punch.
1407
00:56:16,706 --> 00:56:18,208
Those kind of things
you have to accept,
1408
00:56:18,241 --> 00:56:19,209
if you're going to haunt.
1409
00:56:19,242 --> 00:56:20,210
Enjoy the night tonight.
1410
00:56:20,243 --> 00:56:22,145
}Don't get too drunk.
1411
00:56:22,178 --> 00:56:24,748
}Don't hit the monsters
or the zombies.
1412
00:56:24,781 --> 00:56:26,015
}Have a great time.
1413
00:56:26,049 --> 00:56:27,650
The best reactions
you can get--
1414
00:56:27,684 --> 00:56:29,686
oh, I like the ones
when they drop.
1415
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,788
Just-- as if they have no knees.
1416
00:56:31,821 --> 00:56:32,522
Just, right down.
1417
00:56:35,825 --> 00:56:38,595
One of the ladies dropped to
her knees and started crawling,
1418
00:56:38,628 --> 00:56:39,729
and saying, hold up, y'all.
1419
00:56:39,763 --> 00:56:41,798
I pissed my pants a little bit.
1420
00:56:41,831 --> 00:56:43,166
She dropped down
onto the ground.
1421
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:44,934
She fell backwards.
1422
00:56:44,968 --> 00:56:47,670
Crawled out of the room
screaming, I want to live.
1423
00:56:47,704 --> 00:56:49,472
And started
hysterically crying,
1424
00:56:49,506 --> 00:56:51,007
and clutching her knees.
1425
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,642
}It's always usually the
big guys that come in there
1426
00:56:52,675 --> 00:56:53,943
}and freaking out,
and windmilling,
1427
00:56:53,977 --> 00:56:55,545
}and throwing their arms around.
1428
00:56:55,578 --> 00:56:57,814
}I'm getting close to
the end of the maze,
1429
00:56:57,847 --> 00:57:01,718
}and all of a sudden, out of
nowhere, out pops a monster.
1430
00:57:01,751 --> 00:57:04,053
And I literally, with
the back of my hand,
1431
00:57:04,087 --> 00:57:07,690
smack the monster right
square in the face.
1432
00:57:07,724 --> 00:57:11,895
The zombie comes
up to me and says,
1433
00:57:11,928 --> 00:57:14,531
sir, please don't
hit the monster.
1434
00:57:14,564 --> 00:57:17,967
Not only is the zombie
a tiny little person,
1435
00:57:18,001 --> 00:57:22,105
but it's also a little girl
that's probably 15 years old.
1436
00:57:22,138 --> 00:57:25,241
You know, not my finest
moment, I can tell you.
1437
00:57:25,275 --> 00:57:27,777
But when somebody takes their
fingers, curls their hand,
1438
00:57:27,811 --> 00:57:29,846
and goes boom, boom,
boom, punches you-- no.
1439
00:57:29,879 --> 00:57:32,215
That's not acceptable.
1440
00:57:32,248 --> 00:57:33,216
But it happens.
1441
00:57:33,249 --> 00:57:34,517
It was a great maze.
1442
00:57:34,551 --> 00:57:36,119
It was called The underground.
1443
00:57:36,152 --> 00:57:38,521
And had some
wonderful spots in it.
1444
00:57:38,555 --> 00:57:39,956
But not my spot.
1445
00:57:39,989 --> 00:57:41,858
My spot was people would
come around the corner
1446
00:57:41,891 --> 00:57:43,293
and see me, and just punch me.
1447
00:57:43,326 --> 00:57:45,161
I never knew what she
was going to come home,
1448
00:57:45,195 --> 00:57:46,996
you know, in what condition
she was going to come home.
1449
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:49,098
Sometimes she'd come home,
you know, all bruised up.
1450
00:57:49,132 --> 00:57:50,900
Over the last 25
years, you know,
1451
00:57:50,934 --> 00:57:52,602
seeing the evolution
of just, you know,
1452
00:57:52,635 --> 00:57:54,737
how she was costuming,
and how much armor
1453
00:57:54,771 --> 00:57:57,006
she was piling on,
gradually, every year,
1454
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,277
adding pieces of like, you
know, skateboard or BMX armor.
1455
00:58:01,311 --> 00:58:02,712
Boom, boom, boom.
1456
00:58:02,745 --> 00:58:04,247
Punched me three
times right here.
1457
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,815
Before I could even go--
1458
00:58:05,849 --> 00:58:07,884
put my arms up and say stop.
1459
00:58:07,917 --> 00:58:10,053
I got, one time,
three guys choking me.
1460
00:58:10,086 --> 00:58:12,155
I had-- I know.
1461
00:58:12,188 --> 00:58:13,723
How did that even happen?
1462
00:58:13,756 --> 00:58:16,593
Just-- people having
too much to drink.
1463
00:58:16,626 --> 00:58:18,228
He grabbed my
shoulders, pushed down,
1464
00:58:18,261 --> 00:58:20,930
he jabbed his knee into my
back, and drove us both down
1465
00:58:20,964 --> 00:58:21,898
to the ground.
1466
00:58:21,931 --> 00:58:22,832
Rode me to the ground.
1467
00:58:22,866 --> 00:58:24,100
Wouldn't get off me.
1468
00:58:24,133 --> 00:58:25,802
That was-- that was the worst.
1469
00:58:25,835 --> 00:58:27,203
He injured my back.
1470
00:58:27,237 --> 00:58:29,973
That took me out of
full time haunting.
1471
00:58:30,006 --> 00:58:32,609
After I got hurt, I came home.
1472
00:58:32,642 --> 00:58:34,644
I didn't even tell
him how bad it was.
1473
00:58:34,677 --> 00:58:36,179
If I would have
told him how bad it
1474
00:58:36,212 --> 00:58:38,147
was, he would have been
like, you're not doing that.
1475
00:58:38,181 --> 00:58:39,215
You can't go back.
1476
00:58:39,249 --> 00:58:41,284
Well, I-- we would discuss it.
1477
00:58:41,317 --> 00:58:43,219
And usually the
discussion would be,
1478
00:58:43,253 --> 00:58:45,922
well, I'm going to add another
piece of armor to my costume.
1479
00:58:45,955 --> 00:58:47,857
You know, and that should do it.
1480
00:58:47,891 --> 00:58:50,226
Because of that injury,
I'm in pain all the time.
1481
00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:53,596
Surgery's on the
horizon, you know?
1482
00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:55,598
It's inevitable at this point.
1483
00:58:55,632 --> 00:58:58,167
Even though I was hurt,
I was hurt seriously--
1484
00:58:58,201 --> 00:58:59,602
I still am hurt--
1485
00:58:59,636 --> 00:59:01,604
I went back the
next day to haunt.
1486
00:59:01,638 --> 00:59:03,606
Because a haunt monster haunts.
1487
00:59:15,218 --> 00:59:18,855
So this here is
part of the morgue.
1488
00:59:18,888 --> 00:59:22,258
The slabs open up.
1489
00:59:22,292 --> 00:59:26,296
So the audience would be
placed on this, then secured
1490
00:59:26,329 --> 00:59:28,197
back inside.
1491
00:59:28,231 --> 00:59:29,299
Refrigerated.
1492
00:59:29,332 --> 00:59:31,334
Freezing cold inside.
1493
00:59:31,367 --> 00:59:32,802
Electrified.
1494
00:59:32,835 --> 00:59:34,671
They'd actually be shocked.
1495
00:59:34,704 --> 00:59:36,773
So whenever they try to get
out, they would be shocked.
1496
00:59:36,806 --> 00:59:40,109
The slabs raise up on these
hydraulics, about 12 feet up
1497
00:59:40,143 --> 00:59:43,212
high, tilted down at a severe
angle, and the bottom drops.
1498
00:59:43,246 --> 00:59:47,317
And boom, they slide down a
large apparatus into a funnel,
1499
00:59:47,350 --> 00:59:51,354
crashing into this funnel slide,
where only one opening was
1500
00:59:51,387 --> 00:59:54,057
there for everybody to
scramble around, trying to find
1501
00:59:54,090 --> 00:59:55,725
their one opening to escape.
1502
00:59:55,758 --> 00:59:58,795
And the ride would begin.
1503
00:59:58,828 --> 01:00:06,269
}Russ plant about six months
of very expensive and diligent
1504
01:00:06,302 --> 01:00:09,038
{\an8}labor into
constructing the haunt.
1505
01:00:09,072 --> 01:00:13,176
And it was looking really
good, and pretty doggone
1506
01:00:13,209 --> 01:00:15,211
close to complete.
1507
01:00:15,244 --> 01:00:17,380
And then it all fell apart.
1508
01:00:17,413 --> 01:00:18,815
Just got the word.
1509
01:00:18,848 --> 01:00:21,384
We're tearing the haunt down.
1510
01:00:21,417 --> 01:00:25,822
I did get one letter
from a neighbor.
1511
01:00:25,855 --> 01:00:28,124
}One of our neighbors
called the county inspector,
1512
01:00:28,157 --> 01:00:34,230
}and he came out, took a look
at it, saw the YouTube videos,
1513
01:00:34,263 --> 01:00:36,833
{\an8}and, um--
1514
01:00:36,866 --> 01:00:40,837
}Accusing me of bringing in
mentally unbalanced people.
1515
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:42,805
It was the videos that
really set people off.
1516
01:00:42,839 --> 01:00:45,341
A lot of folks were thinking,
OK, a haunted house.
1517
01:00:45,375 --> 01:00:47,210
OK, boo, boo, scare, scare.
1518
01:00:47,243 --> 01:00:51,414
And then the neighbors saw
the actual videos on YouTube.
1519
01:00:51,447 --> 01:00:55,318
From the county,
I got this warning
1520
01:00:55,351 --> 01:00:58,855
that it would be
$1,000 per day fine
1521
01:00:58,888 --> 01:01:01,824
until the violation,
the haunt, was
1522
01:01:01,858 --> 01:01:06,896
removed, for a total
of $50,000 per year.
1523
01:01:06,929 --> 01:01:08,931
There might have been
more fees after that.
1524
01:01:08,965 --> 01:01:11,034
We already had a permit
to do what we were doing,
1525
01:01:11,067 --> 01:01:14,037
but they wanted an
additional permit
1526
01:01:14,070 --> 01:01:17,306
after they found out the
extreme nature of the haunt.
1527
01:01:17,340 --> 01:01:21,344
You can do it, but it's going
to be another 35 to 50 to apply,
1528
01:01:21,377 --> 01:01:24,781
and we can't guarantee that
we're going to pick it up.
1529
01:01:24,814 --> 01:01:26,382
So obviously the city
wasn't interested.
1530
01:01:26,416 --> 01:01:28,751
It wasn't worth, after
putting all that money into it
1531
01:01:28,785 --> 01:01:32,522
already, to chance
another $50,000,
1532
01:01:32,555 --> 01:01:35,258
and to see if maybe
it might work.
1533
01:01:35,291 --> 01:01:36,959
It would have put us on the map.
1534
01:01:36,993 --> 01:01:38,027
We're still gonna do it.
1535
01:01:38,061 --> 01:01:41,230
Just a smaller scale.
1536
01:01:41,264 --> 01:01:43,399
How much money did
you put into this?
1537
01:01:43,433 --> 01:01:44,200
Here?
1538
01:01:44,233 --> 01:01:55,478
About $100,000.
1539
01:01:55,511 --> 01:01:59,982
It's a lot more work to move
it back than to move it there.
1540
01:02:04,921 --> 01:02:08,091
It's kind of disheartening,
taking apart your dream.
1541
01:02:22,205 --> 01:02:30,947
{\an8}The
1542
01:02:30,980 --> 01:02:36,586
}When it's time to change, to
transform into my monster self,
1543
01:02:36,619 --> 01:02:38,421
}I get into my costume.
1544
01:02:38,454 --> 01:02:40,156
Usually the smell
of the costume,
1545
01:02:40,189 --> 01:02:43,593
even if it's freshly
washed, starts bringing back
1546
01:02:43,626 --> 01:02:46,095
memories of different
haunts that I'd done,
1547
01:02:46,129 --> 01:02:47,163
different things I've done.
1548
01:02:51,567 --> 01:02:55,004
}Going down deep inside
my mind, thinking
1549
01:02:55,037 --> 01:02:58,407
}about who I'm becoming,
where I'm going to go to
1550
01:02:58,441 --> 01:03:01,077
}with the makeup, with the mask.
1551
01:03:01,110 --> 01:03:01,878
With the costume.
1552
01:03:08,151 --> 01:03:10,853
Once I have my
makeup fully applied,
1553
01:03:10,887 --> 01:03:13,623
I go over to the mirror, and
I just look at the mirror.
1554
01:03:13,656 --> 01:03:17,493
You see that other face
looking back at you.
1555
01:03:17,527 --> 01:03:19,962
You move your eyes around,
you move your mouth.
1556
01:03:19,996 --> 01:03:22,398
I see the reaction that's
looking back at me.
1557
01:03:22,431 --> 01:03:26,502
As I become the monster, I
start letting my true self out,
1558
01:03:26,536 --> 01:03:28,337
and I come somewhere
in the middle,
1559
01:03:28,371 --> 01:03:30,606
and I make a connection.
1560
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,243
I'm that monster then, and
there's no turning back.
1561
01:03:34,277 --> 01:03:36,479
[snarling]
1562
01:03:40,082 --> 01:03:41,317
[laughter]
1563
01:03:43,219 --> 01:03:48,191
I could just go home, get in
the car, drive, and just hope--
1564
01:03:48,224 --> 01:03:51,194
the only time I hope to
get stuck in LA traffic.
1565
01:03:51,227 --> 01:03:52,094
Ha ha ha!
1566
01:03:56,699 --> 01:04:00,002
I would love to be able to
do this on a daily basis.
1567
01:04:00,036 --> 01:04:02,405
I don't think at this point
in my life I physically
1568
01:04:02,438 --> 01:04:04,073
could do it every single day.
1569
01:04:04,106 --> 01:04:05,575
I can't do two months anymore.
1570
01:04:05,608 --> 01:04:07,343
I can do a couple of
days here and there.
1571
01:04:07,376 --> 01:04:08,978
That's about it.
1572
01:04:09,011 --> 01:04:11,214
I'm just going to put
this up on the wall.
1573
01:04:11,247 --> 01:04:14,383
It's kind of amazing, the
sounds, the way you breathe,
1574
01:04:14,417 --> 01:04:15,418
the way you move.
1575
01:04:15,451 --> 01:04:16,619
It all comes from my pain.
1576
01:04:20,456 --> 01:04:21,924
Where does it come from?
1577
01:04:21,958 --> 01:04:23,326
}It just comes from-- yeah.
1578
01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:24,927
A lot of it does come
from pain, though,
1579
01:04:24,961 --> 01:04:26,996
because I'm in pain a lot.
1580
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:31,601
So, I don't know how long, or
how much longer I can do it.
1581
01:04:36,672 --> 01:04:43,112
I think the future of haunting
is definitely taking a turn.
1582
01:04:43,145 --> 01:04:45,948
}I don't think all haunts
are going to get more extreme.
1583
01:04:45,982 --> 01:04:47,950
}Some will stay very traditional.
1584
01:04:47,984 --> 01:04:49,418
Others might stray off.
1585
01:04:49,452 --> 01:04:51,287
And it takes more and
more to scare people.
1586
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,091
And once you start something
like this, how do you turn back
1587
01:04:55,124 --> 01:04:56,726
and say, oh, no, didn't happen.
1588
01:04:56,759 --> 01:04:57,960
{\an8}Close your eyes.
1589
01:04:57,994 --> 01:04:58,661
}Let's go back to the old--
1590
01:04:58,694 --> 01:05:00,329
}the old boo style.
1591
01:05:00,363 --> 01:05:01,197
That extreme stuff?
1592
01:05:01,230 --> 01:05:02,231
No, no, no.
1593
01:05:02,265 --> 01:05:03,299
That was your imagination.
1594
01:05:03,332 --> 01:05:04,133
It never really took place.
1595
01:05:04,166 --> 01:05:05,501
Can't do it.
1596
01:05:05,534 --> 01:05:07,203
So we let the genie
out of the bottle.
1597
01:05:07,236 --> 01:05:08,638
It's gonna be tough to get
it back in there again.
1598
01:05:08,671 --> 01:05:11,107
I feel like the whole
interaction aspect,
1599
01:05:11,140 --> 01:05:13,042
with the ctors, and
with the storyline
1600
01:05:13,075 --> 01:05:14,443
is where the future will go.
1601
01:05:14,477 --> 01:05:16,579
The idea of having
a storyline, I think,
1602
01:05:16,612 --> 01:05:18,080
is really cool.
1603
01:05:18,114 --> 01:05:19,181
And I like the
idea of that, and I
1604
01:05:19,215 --> 01:05:21,350
hope more places will do that.
1605
01:05:21,384 --> 01:05:24,520
Delusion, the haunted
play, does exactly that.
1606
01:05:24,553 --> 01:05:28,090
They start off with
a story, and you go--
1607
01:05:28,124 --> 01:05:32,094
you become part of the story,
and things happen around you.
1608
01:05:32,128 --> 01:05:33,663
Things happen to you.
1609
01:05:33,696 --> 01:05:36,065
{\an8}My character
had kinetic power,
1610
01:05:36,098 --> 01:05:38,100
}and, you know, I would
tell the audience that you
1611
01:05:38,134 --> 01:05:39,468
}have these powers, too.
1612
01:05:39,502 --> 01:05:41,203
Everybody, put your
hand out together.
1613
01:05:41,237 --> 01:05:43,105
Everybody would reach out,
they would be shaking,
1614
01:05:43,139 --> 01:05:45,441
and some people were into it
so much, they' be like, yeah,
1615
01:05:45,474 --> 01:05:46,776
I have powers.
1616
01:05:46,809 --> 01:05:48,377
In my ears!
1617
01:05:48,411 --> 01:05:49,779
[screaming]
1618
01:05:49,812 --> 01:05:51,514
May they rip you open!
1619
01:05:51,547 --> 01:05:53,482
Narrator would, like,
reach towards the door,
1620
01:05:53,516 --> 01:05:55,584
and then telekinetically
open the door.
1621
01:05:55,618 --> 01:05:57,386
And then you'd see
the grandmother.
1622
01:05:57,420 --> 01:06:01,090
}So this, you know, poor person
has to walk down the hall,
1623
01:06:01,123 --> 01:06:05,628
}and as soon as they cross the
threshold into the bathroom,
1624
01:06:05,661 --> 01:06:09,498
}I sneak out from a corner, and I
slam the door behind the person
1625
01:06:09,532 --> 01:06:11,033
}so they can't escape.
1626
01:06:11,067 --> 01:06:12,401
So when they turn
around, they're
1627
01:06:12,435 --> 01:06:14,470
face to face with
this psychotic kid.
1628
01:06:14,503 --> 01:06:16,372
Your friend is now gone.
1629
01:06:16,405 --> 01:06:18,074
}You don't know what the hell
is going on with that person.
1630
01:06:18,107 --> 01:06:19,575
}And all of a sudden,
from the ceiling
1631
01:06:19,608 --> 01:06:25,081
}drops this other minion,
crazy, demonic creature.
1632
01:06:25,114 --> 01:06:26,816
Meanwhile, the person
trapped in the bathroom,
1633
01:06:26,849 --> 01:06:28,584
they're hearing their
friends screaming.
1634
01:06:28,617 --> 01:06:30,653
People would say, what's
happening to my friends?
1635
01:06:30,686 --> 01:06:32,688
It sounds like
they're being murdered.
1636
01:06:32,722 --> 01:06:36,225
You're interactive, yet
you're getting the scares, too.
1637
01:06:36,258 --> 01:06:38,227
And I think it draws
to a broader audience.
1638
01:06:38,260 --> 01:06:39,528
I'm actually a
little concerned
1639
01:06:39,562 --> 01:06:40,796
for the future of haunts.
1640
01:06:40,830 --> 01:06:42,398
I think that everything
is progressively
1641
01:06:42,431 --> 01:06:45,601
going to continue to get
more extreme and worse,
1642
01:06:45,634 --> 01:06:47,336
until eventually
somebody gets killed.
1643
01:06:47,370 --> 01:06:48,838
And then we're all
going to get slapped
1644
01:06:48,871 --> 01:06:51,273
with legislation that
will shut most of us
1645
01:06:51,307 --> 01:06:54,543
lower level haunters down.
1646
01:06:54,577 --> 01:06:58,314
At Hazy Meadow Ranch we had
these rooms completely built.
1647
01:06:58,347 --> 01:06:59,715
So then once they
shut us down, we
1648
01:06:59,749 --> 01:07:01,550
had to bring it all back here.
1649
01:07:01,584 --> 01:07:04,854
So what you're seeing, of
course, is just in disarray.
1650
01:07:04,887 --> 01:07:08,257
We're back to the beginning,
and rebuilding in the backyard,
1651
01:07:08,290 --> 01:07:10,159
and starting all over again.
1652
01:07:30,279 --> 01:07:31,480
Compressors are a hassle.
1653
01:07:31,514 --> 01:07:32,848
They're always breaking down.
1654
01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:34,583
Always breaking down.
1655
01:07:34,617 --> 01:07:37,086
[laughter]
1656
01:07:41,557 --> 01:07:44,293
We got rid of
the teenage actors.
1657
01:07:44,326 --> 01:07:49,865
One of our actors was, uh--
1658
01:07:49,899 --> 01:07:52,501
doing some inappropriate
things, with--
1659
01:07:52,535 --> 01:07:55,538
you know, hitting on-- you
know, with minors, and stuff.
1660
01:07:55,571 --> 01:08:04,547
He was sending explicit videos
and photos, and everything else
1661
01:08:04,580 --> 01:08:05,815
you could imagine.
1662
01:08:05,848 --> 01:08:07,550
Crazy.
1663
01:08:07,583 --> 01:08:13,789
And we found out that he
was giving drugs and alcohol
1664
01:08:13,823 --> 01:08:18,694
to our underage female
actor back here.
1665
01:08:18,727 --> 01:08:23,165
And doing, also,
inappropriate stuff with her.
1666
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:27,169
He says the fame went to his
head, but that's bullshit.
1667
01:08:27,203 --> 01:08:28,237
That's no excuse.
1668
01:08:28,270 --> 01:08:29,772
You know, that's just bullshit.
1669
01:08:29,805 --> 01:08:33,175
At the same time, the people
that wanted to be actors
1670
01:08:33,209 --> 01:08:34,777
were more military.
1671
01:08:34,810 --> 01:08:37,546
There's a documentary, a
BBC documentary about Gitmo,
1672
01:08:37,580 --> 01:08:41,183
and it was a real leftist
kind of a look at it.
1673
01:08:41,217 --> 01:08:43,252
It was a look to where
how horrible it was,
1674
01:08:43,285 --> 01:08:44,520
was what it was, right?
1675
01:08:44,553 --> 01:08:45,955
But it was
interesting, because I
1676
01:08:45,988 --> 01:08:49,291
wanted to see if it
was anything like us.
1677
01:08:49,325 --> 01:08:51,527
These aren't all boy scouts.
1678
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,429
You should see this
big, giant guy, man.
1679
01:08:53,462 --> 01:08:57,733
And he was part of, like, all
the skinhead stuff, and all
1680
01:08:57,766 --> 01:08:59,335
that junk, you know?
1681
01:08:59,368 --> 01:09:01,437
But he told me-- he
came clean and told me--
1682
01:09:01,470 --> 01:09:03,239
he was in jail, like,
a whole lot of times.
1683
01:09:03,272 --> 01:09:04,807
So I'm cool with that.
1684
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,209
The other tattooed guy
out, he's got a felon, too.
1685
01:09:07,243 --> 01:09:08,544
Hitting a cop.
1686
01:09:08,577 --> 01:09:10,312
So he came clean,
told us, you know?
1687
01:09:10,346 --> 01:09:12,214
We'll check it, we'll
check the background on it,
1688
01:09:12,248 --> 01:09:12,748
and he'll be fine.
1689
01:09:15,451 --> 01:09:16,485
What are they doing?
1690
01:09:16,519 --> 01:09:17,920
This is what we always do.
1691
01:09:17,953 --> 01:09:18,988
We're like, did you
see what the neighbors
1692
01:09:19,021 --> 01:09:20,322
are doing across the street?
1693
01:09:24,627 --> 01:09:26,996
Are you ready?
1694
01:09:27,029 --> 01:09:28,297
Works.
1695
01:09:28,330 --> 01:09:29,732
Up here, cause this is--
1696
01:09:34,570 --> 01:09:35,471
Steve.
1697
01:09:35,504 --> 01:09:36,438
Here's what you do.
1698
01:09:36,472 --> 01:09:37,439
Grab it.
1699
01:09:37,473 --> 01:09:38,974
Give me the thingy.
1700
01:09:39,008 --> 01:09:40,476
I'm not gonna-- no!
1701
01:09:40,509 --> 01:09:41,777
Because you're
gonna break by bit.
1702
01:09:41,810 --> 01:09:43,012
I'm not gonna break your bit.
1703
01:09:43,045 --> 01:09:44,580
You're gonna break my bit.
1704
01:09:44,613 --> 01:09:45,281
Hey.
1705
01:09:45,314 --> 01:09:45,848
Relax.
1706
01:09:45,881 --> 01:09:46,515
Calm down.
1707
01:09:51,987 --> 01:09:53,889
[laughter]
1708
01:09:59,061 --> 01:10:00,930
There's totally gonna
be a fetus down here.
1709
01:10:00,963 --> 01:10:02,464
Rob, have you seen a fetus?
1710
01:10:09,939 --> 01:10:13,509
I am the spider queen.
1711
01:10:13,542 --> 01:10:16,512
Welcome to Nightmare
on Loganberry.
1712
01:10:16,545 --> 01:10:18,414
[screaming]
1713
01:10:26,555 --> 01:10:28,457
Are you guys going
to the haunted house?
1714
01:10:28,490 --> 01:10:29,058
Yeah.
1715
01:10:29,091 --> 01:10:30,659
I'm scared.
1716
01:10:30,693 --> 01:10:31,460
You are?
1717
01:10:31,493 --> 01:10:32,461
I'm scared.
1718
01:10:32,494 --> 01:10:33,429
I'm not.
1719
01:10:33,462 --> 01:10:33,963
Me, either.
1720
01:10:33,996 --> 01:10:34,863
I laugh.
1721
01:10:34,897 --> 01:10:36,765
[inaudible].
1722
01:10:36,799 --> 01:10:38,000
[screaming]
1723
01:10:39,602 --> 01:10:41,737
[screaming]
1724
01:10:45,774 --> 01:10:48,711
I've, like, never
screamed so much.
1725
01:10:48,744 --> 01:10:51,080
[screaming]
1726
01:10:51,113 --> 01:10:51,981
It was awesome.
1727
01:10:52,014 --> 01:10:53,816
It was really fun.
1728
01:10:53,849 --> 01:10:54,783
Oh my god.
1729
01:10:54,817 --> 01:10:56,051
That was really good.
1730
01:10:56,085 --> 01:10:57,519
That was better
than Not Scary Farm.
1731
01:10:57,553 --> 01:10:58,988
That was better
than Not Scary Farm.
1732
01:10:59,021 --> 01:10:59,922
}You get scared in there,
but after you do it,
1733
01:10:59,955 --> 01:11:01,824
}you feel like a man.
1734
01:11:01,857 --> 01:11:04,793
}When I'm on the balcony and
I'm looking down at my haunt,
1735
01:11:04,827 --> 01:11:08,731
}and seeing people enjoy
it, I feel a lot of pride.
1736
01:11:08,764 --> 01:11:10,065
[screaming]
1737
01:11:10,099 --> 01:11:12,034
Why can't I do this every day?
1738
01:11:12,067 --> 01:11:13,902
I am celebrating
tonight, because tomorrow
1739
01:11:13,936 --> 01:11:16,505
is November 1st.
1740
01:11:16,538 --> 01:11:18,607
We get to tear all of
this down, and then
1741
01:11:18,641 --> 01:11:21,410
focus on Thanksgiving, and
Christmas, and-- you know,
1742
01:11:21,443 --> 01:11:23,479
we don't have to talk about
Halloween for at least
1743
01:11:23,512 --> 01:11:24,380
another six months.
1744
01:11:28,951 --> 01:11:31,520
I'm doing this haunt every
weekend because I'm selfish.
1745
01:11:31,553 --> 01:11:33,789
I'm a selfish,
selfish, selfish guy.
1746
01:11:33,822 --> 01:11:36,125
And I don't want to do
just 15 more seasons.
1747
01:11:36,158 --> 01:11:39,995
I want a season every weekend.
1748
01:11:40,029 --> 01:11:41,864
Christina from Kuwait.
1749
01:11:41,897 --> 01:11:44,600
}Are there any haunts
out there at all?
1750
01:11:44,633 --> 01:11:46,135
}Nothing here in Kuwait.
1751
01:11:46,168 --> 01:11:49,004
They don't celebrate Halloween,
so it really does suck.
1752
01:11:49,038 --> 01:11:51,407
A lot of my friends think
I'm crazy for traveling
1753
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:54,643
19 hours just to go
to one haunted house.
1754
01:11:54,677 --> 01:11:57,513
{\an8}I have honestly
forgotten every reason
1755
01:11:57,546 --> 01:12:00,649
}that I may have thought this
was a good idea at this time.
1756
01:12:00,683 --> 01:12:02,818
}I'm trying to accomplish
some fears that I have.
1757
01:12:02,851 --> 01:12:04,420
{\an8}I'm ready.
1758
01:12:04,453 --> 01:12:05,788
}Got my dog food, and
everything ready to go.
1759
01:12:05,821 --> 01:12:07,656
}Found out about McKamey Manor.
1760
01:12:07,690 --> 01:12:11,026
Just came across the website,
and emailed Russ about it.
1761
01:12:11,060 --> 01:12:14,063
}And then he put us on the
list, and it's been a year now.
1762
01:12:14,096 --> 01:12:17,800
}And I honestly didn't even
think this was going to happen.
1763
01:12:17,833 --> 01:12:19,935
{\an8}I want to
experience real fear.
1764
01:12:19,968 --> 01:12:21,537
I'm here because
of this asshole.
1765
01:12:24,473 --> 01:12:26,141
And I'm terrified.
1766
01:12:26,175 --> 01:12:29,144
I might have to go see a
doctor after this is all done.
1767
01:12:29,178 --> 01:12:30,746
I can't even
describe the feeling
1768
01:12:30,779 --> 01:12:32,948
that I'm having right now.
1769
01:12:32,981 --> 01:12:35,084
It's like, the most
anxious, terrified feeling
1770
01:12:35,117 --> 01:12:36,985
I've ever felt. I've
never felt this before.
1771
01:12:37,019 --> 01:12:38,887
It's like the
feeling I can imagine
1772
01:12:38,921 --> 01:12:41,690
you're going to get, like, when
you know you're going to die.
1773
01:12:41,724 --> 01:12:43,759
If you even want a
chance of surviving,
1774
01:12:43,792 --> 01:12:47,763
you better listen to every
single thing we tell you.
1775
01:12:47,796 --> 01:12:49,665
Do you understand us?
1776
01:12:49,698 --> 01:12:51,100
The game begins.
1777
01:12:51,133 --> 01:12:55,437
I hope you are ready.
1778
01:12:55,471 --> 01:12:56,772
We're gonna
destroy you tonight.
1779
01:13:05,247 --> 01:13:07,216
Who are you?
1780
01:13:07,249 --> 01:13:10,152
[inaudible]
1781
01:13:14,022 --> 01:13:15,124
Stupid, stupid, stupid girl.
1782
01:13:23,198 --> 01:13:24,767
Russ!
1783
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:25,768
Russ, I can't.
1784
01:13:25,801 --> 01:13:26,602
Please!
1785
01:13:26,635 --> 01:13:27,536
Russ, please!
1786
01:13:27,569 --> 01:13:29,138
I want out! please!
1787
01:13:29,171 --> 01:13:31,907
Please, please!
1788
01:13:31,940 --> 01:13:32,574
Chew it.
1789
01:13:32,608 --> 01:13:33,208
Chew it.
1790
01:13:33,242 --> 01:13:34,009
All of it.
1791
01:13:34,042 --> 01:13:35,043
Don't throw up.
1792
01:13:35,077 --> 01:13:38,580
Don't you throw up on me!
1793
01:13:38,614 --> 01:13:40,883
[retching]
1794
01:13:43,585 --> 01:13:44,553
Pick it up!
1795
01:13:44,586 --> 01:13:45,921
Now!
1796
01:13:45,954 --> 01:13:47,489
Look around.
1797
01:13:47,523 --> 01:13:48,490
Watch her.
1798
01:13:48,524 --> 01:13:49,258
Look at her.
1799
01:13:49,291 --> 01:13:50,225
Keep his eyes on her.
1800
01:13:50,259 --> 01:13:51,193
Keep your eyes on her.
1801
01:14:00,736 --> 01:14:02,070
No touching!
1802
01:14:02,104 --> 01:14:03,038
Get your hands down!
1803
01:14:03,071 --> 01:14:04,573
Put your hands down!
1804
01:14:07,609 --> 01:14:08,944
You're gonna die soon.
1805
01:14:08,977 --> 01:14:10,112
This is where you die.
1806
01:14:10,145 --> 01:14:11,046
I want out!
1807
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:12,080
Now!
1808
01:14:12,114 --> 01:14:13,081
You're really hurting me!
1809
01:14:18,587 --> 01:14:19,822
[screaming]
1810
01:14:19,855 --> 01:14:20,622
Keep her quiet.
1811
01:14:20,656 --> 01:14:22,891
Keep her quiet.
1812
01:14:22,925 --> 01:14:24,259
RADIO: Guys, we
may have a problem.
1813
01:14:24,293 --> 01:14:25,661
Did he die?
1814
01:14:25,694 --> 01:14:26,929
What's the problem?
1815
01:14:26,962 --> 01:14:27,963
RADIO: He's starting
not to respond.
1816
01:14:27,996 --> 01:14:28,730
{\an8}Oh, shit.
1817
01:14:28,764 --> 01:14:29,298
{\an8}Hold on.
1818
01:14:29,331 --> 01:14:30,032
{\an8}Oh my god.
1819
01:14:30,065 --> 01:14:30,799
Hang on.
1820
01:14:30,833 --> 01:14:32,167
Oh my god.
1821
01:14:32,201 --> 01:14:33,202
I don't even know
if my brother's OK.
1822
01:14:33,235 --> 01:14:34,102
I think I just died, dude.
1823
01:14:34,136 --> 01:14:35,003
Shh.
1824
01:14:35,037 --> 01:14:36,305
Are you OK?
1825
01:14:36,338 --> 01:14:37,673
I don't know.
1826
01:14:37,706 --> 01:14:38,207
Where are you?
1827
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,308
Listen--
1828
01:14:39,341 --> 01:14:40,609
What's the name of the haunt?
1829
01:14:40,642 --> 01:14:41,710
What's the name of the haunt?
1830
01:14:41,743 --> 01:14:43,846
What's the name of the haunt?
1831
01:14:43,879 --> 01:14:47,983
I-- I came out of
the blackou from--
1832
01:14:48,016 --> 01:14:50,152
I have no idea what.
1833
01:14:50,185 --> 01:14:53,989
It just-- I didn't
know where I was.
1834
01:14:54,022 --> 01:14:55,224
Just say something.
1835
01:14:55,257 --> 01:14:56,725
Want to--
1836
01:14:56,758 --> 01:14:57,626
There it is.
1837
01:14:57,659 --> 01:14:58,694
Get her over here.
1838
01:14:58,727 --> 01:14:59,595
What are you doing?
1839
01:14:59,628 --> 01:15:00,229
Wake up.
1840
01:15:00,262 --> 01:15:01,063
Come back to--
1841
01:15:01,096 --> 01:15:01,730
Hey, head up.
1842
01:15:01,763 --> 01:15:02,197
Head up.
1843
01:15:02,231 --> 01:15:03,131
Head up.
1844
01:15:03,165 --> 01:15:03,899
What are you doing?
1845
01:15:03,932 --> 01:15:04,800
Let's go.
1846
01:15:04,833 --> 01:15:05,267
Let's sit them up.
1847
01:15:05,300 --> 01:15:05,934
OK.
1848
01:15:05,968 --> 01:15:06,768
OK.
1849
01:15:06,802 --> 01:15:07,703
Hey.
1850
01:15:07,736 --> 01:15:08,303
Hold her, hold her.
1851
01:15:08,337 --> 01:15:10,005
Mandi, look up.
1852
01:15:10,038 --> 01:15:11,740
What's going on with you, Mandi?
1853
01:15:11,773 --> 01:15:12,908
Tell me what you're thinking.
1854
01:15:12,941 --> 01:15:14,142
I can't do it anymore.
1855
01:15:14,176 --> 01:15:16,578
Tell me what's going on.
1856
01:15:16,612 --> 01:15:17,312
What are you thinking?
1857
01:15:17,346 --> 01:15:18,146
I don't know.
1858
01:15:18,180 --> 01:15:18,981
I can't do it.
1859
01:15:19,014 --> 01:15:19,815
I can't do it.
1860
01:15:19,848 --> 01:15:20,649
I can't do it.
1861
01:15:20,682 --> 01:15:21,283
I can't do it.
1862
01:15:21,316 --> 01:15:22,117
I can't do it.
1863
01:15:22,150 --> 01:15:23,986
I can't do it.
1864
01:15:24,019 --> 01:15:26,822
I tld you I was going to
have you for lunch, didn't I?
1865
01:15:26,855 --> 01:15:30,325
}We're not done with you yet.
1866
01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:33,228
{\an8}So, what are you
feeling, looking at that?
1867
01:15:33,262 --> 01:15:34,796
}It kind of makes me mad.
1868
01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:35,264
Mad?
1869
01:15:35,297 --> 01:15:36,331
Why?
1870
01:15:36,365 --> 01:15:38,066
At Russ.
1871
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:41,603
Because I was done there.
1872
01:15:41,637 --> 01:15:43,038
Heidi, this is your chance.
1873
01:15:43,071 --> 01:15:44,606
You tell me right now,
do you want to quit?
1874
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:45,774
I want to quit.
1875
01:15:45,807 --> 01:15:48,043
[inaudible]
1876
01:15:48,076 --> 01:15:49,144
No.
1877
01:15:49,177 --> 01:15:50,846
We're not gonna let you quit.
1878
01:15:50,879 --> 01:15:57,185
[laughter] You're not--
you're not going anywhere.
1879
01:15:57,219 --> 01:15:58,220
No.
1880
01:15:58,253 --> 01:15:59,788
I feel like I'm gonna die.
1881
01:15:59,821 --> 01:16:00,923
I just want out.
1882
01:16:00,956 --> 01:16:01,990
I just want to be done.
1883
01:16:02,024 --> 01:16:03,825
I just want to be done, so bad.
1884
01:16:03,859 --> 01:16:05,961
}I'm really suffering
at this point.
1885
01:16:05,994 --> 01:16:10,065
{\an8}Like, I am just
mentally at the end.
1886
01:16:10,098 --> 01:16:11,867
Please let me out.
1887
01:16:11,900 --> 01:16:15,137
And it just feels like it
was just a game for them.
1888
01:16:15,170 --> 01:16:16,805
I don't know
what I want to do.
1889
01:16:16,838 --> 01:16:20,042
Because right now you're
very entertaining to me.
1890
01:16:20,075 --> 01:16:22,311
And I like to be entertained.
1891
01:16:22,344 --> 01:16:23,912
I think you're faking right now.
1892
01:16:23,946 --> 01:16:25,714
Are you faking right now?
1893
01:16:25,747 --> 01:16:27,716
Like, that's when I wish
that there was a safe word,
1894
01:16:27,749 --> 01:16:29,117
because I was so done.
1895
01:16:29,151 --> 01:16:30,819
I remember that feeling,
and it was horrible.
1896
01:16:33,422 --> 01:16:39,227
To strip someone of their--
the control of themselves is--
1897
01:16:39,261 --> 01:16:40,262
is harmful.
1898
01:16:40,295 --> 01:16:41,897
Is damaging, is traumatic.
1899
01:16:41,930 --> 01:16:43,832
I want to quit!
1900
01:16:43,865 --> 01:16:44,800
[inaudible]
1901
01:16:44,833 --> 01:16:45,767
I want out.
1902
01:16:45,801 --> 01:16:46,368
I want out.
1903
01:16:46,401 --> 01:16:47,135
I want out!
1904
01:16:47,169 --> 01:16:48,770
That is abuse.
1905
01:16:48,804 --> 01:16:50,205
That is assault. At
least, in my opinion.
1906
01:16:50,238 --> 01:16:52,240
And I'm pretty sure the law.
1907
01:16:52,274 --> 01:16:53,241
I'm begging you, Russ.
1908
01:16:53,275 --> 01:16:54,142
I am begging you.
1909
01:16:54,176 --> 01:16:55,410
I'm done.
1910
01:16:55,444 --> 01:16:56,211
I want to quit.
1911
01:16:56,244 --> 01:16:57,112
No!
1912
01:16:57,145 --> 01:16:59,014
No!
1913
01:16:59,047 --> 01:17:03,085
Because I don't think I could
watch someone be in this place,
1914
01:17:03,118 --> 01:17:07,389
and not be able to
stop what's going on.
1915
01:17:07,422 --> 01:17:08,690
I can't breathe.
1916
01:17:08,724 --> 01:17:10,926
It's the only way to save him.
1917
01:17:10,959 --> 01:17:12,327
OK, OK, OK.
1918
01:17:12,361 --> 01:17:14,062
{\an8}I went through
it, so now I want
1919
01:17:14,096 --> 01:17:15,797
}to kind of turn the
tables a little bit,
1920
01:17:15,831 --> 01:17:18,433
}and put it out on somebody else.
1921
01:17:18,467 --> 01:17:21,336
}And see their reaction, and
see if I can push somebody
1922
01:17:21,370 --> 01:17:23,205
}to their breaking point.
1923
01:17:23,238 --> 01:17:25,374
I want to be that guy
that makes somebody cry.
1924
01:17:25,407 --> 01:17:27,109
I want to go home.
1925
01:17:27,142 --> 01:17:29,011
You're not going home.
1926
01:17:29,044 --> 01:17:33,115
}I want to now screw
with a lot of people.
1927
01:17:33,148 --> 01:17:34,249
I'm super excited.
1928
01:17:34,282 --> 01:17:35,417
I'm super stoked.
1929
01:17:35,450 --> 01:17:37,252
Like-- I can't wait.
1930
01:17:37,285 --> 01:17:39,054
If there's ever
an opportunity where
1931
01:17:39,087 --> 01:17:40,922
you need an actor, or
something, to come try there,
1932
01:17:40,956 --> 01:17:41,723
give me an opportunity.
1933
01:17:41,757 --> 01:17:42,324
I will.
1934
01:17:42,357 --> 01:17:43,258
Absolutely.
1935
01:17:43,291 --> 01:17:44,726
Well, you know what?
1936
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,461
Why would you want
to act in here?
1937
01:17:46,495 --> 01:17:49,131
Because the thrill of
being able to hurt-- well--
1938
01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:50,999
let me rephrase that.
1939
01:17:51,033 --> 01:17:56,204
The thrill of being able to
do this to other people is--
1940
01:17:56,238 --> 01:17:57,906
would be awesome.
1941
01:17:57,939 --> 01:17:59,941
}Because we have so many
freaking haters out there,
1942
01:17:59,975 --> 01:18:03,178
}that cause so much hate
and discontent, and call
1943
01:18:03,211 --> 01:18:05,380
}the police, and call the FBI.
1944
01:18:05,414 --> 01:18:07,015
{\an8}It's funny.
1945
01:18:07,049 --> 01:18:08,417
}The speak the truth,
and they're all lying.
1946
01:18:08,450 --> 01:18:10,118
Yeah.
1947
01:18:10,152 --> 01:18:11,753
Why can't Carol release
the waiver that I signed?
1948
01:18:11,787 --> 01:18:14,022
The document that has my
legal signature on it.
1949
01:18:14,056 --> 01:18:14,990
Say--
1950
01:18:15,023 --> 01:18:15,891
I'll give 'em a copy.
1951
01:18:15,924 --> 01:18:16,491
No, you will not.
1952
01:18:16,525 --> 01:18:17,392
Yes, I will.
1953
01:18:17,426 --> 01:18:18,193
No, you will say.
1954
01:18:18,226 --> 01:18:19,161
Yes, I will.
1955
01:18:19,194 --> 01:18:20,762
This is not a business.
1956
01:18:20,796 --> 01:18:23,999
It's a home that we're
doing for the fans.
1957
01:18:24,032 --> 01:18:25,767
That waiver's to cover my butt.
1958
01:18:25,801 --> 01:18:28,537
It's not for them to try
to get on me later on.
1959
01:18:28,570 --> 01:18:30,238
We have new
developments tonight
1960
01:18:30,272 --> 01:18:32,174
about this haunted house
in the North County that--
1961
01:18:32,207 --> 01:18:34,476
We get death threats
on a daily basis.
1962
01:18:34,509 --> 01:18:36,344
Serious death threats.
1963
01:18:36,378 --> 01:18:39,147
NEWSCASTER: McKamey says says he
gets calls, emails, and hackers
1964
01:18:39,181 --> 01:18:42,084
trying to stop this,
threatening to kill them
1965
01:18:42,117 --> 01:18:44,419
and blow up the house,
among other things.
1966
01:18:44,453 --> 01:18:47,489
The police are involved,
the FBI is involved now.
1967
01:18:47,522 --> 01:18:49,925
With the price of fame,
which is, you know--
1968
01:18:49,958 --> 01:18:52,360
and I do have fame
in my own little--
1969
01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:53,795
dorky little world.
1970
01:18:53,829 --> 01:18:55,464
You know, I've got
this little mini
1971
01:18:55,497 --> 01:18:59,568
celebrity, which is amazing
and amusing to me, as well.
1972
01:18:59,601 --> 01:19:02,404
But when that all happens,
though, the crazies come out.
1973
01:19:02,437 --> 01:19:03,972
The really big loons.
1974
01:19:07,275 --> 01:19:08,076
Yes?
1975
01:19:08,110 --> 01:19:08,543
This is Russ.
1976
01:19:10,178 --> 01:19:11,913
OK.
1977
01:19:11,947 --> 01:19:13,281
}The That is witnessing people
slapping these children,
1978
01:19:13,315 --> 01:19:14,549
}and people with bags
over their heads.
1979
01:19:14,583 --> 01:19:16,051
}And I'm not OK with that.
1980
01:19:16,084 --> 01:19:17,319
}Well, we didn't have any bags.
1981
01:19:17,352 --> 01:19:18,453
We didn't have any bags, and--
1982
01:19:21,356 --> 01:19:21,857
Right.
1983
01:19:26,328 --> 01:19:28,997
Uh-- OK.
1984
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:32,200
You have my promise that
you'll never see us again.
1985
01:19:32,234 --> 01:19:33,568
Unless you want to
come to the haunt.
1986
01:19:37,305 --> 01:19:38,106
How are ya?
1987
01:19:38,140 --> 01:19:38,607
Good.
1988
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:39,407
Good.
1989
01:19:39,441 --> 01:19:41,176
{\an8}Come on in.
1990
01:19:41,209 --> 01:19:42,277
{\an8}I'm Russ.
1991
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:43,979
}The man of trouble.
1992
01:19:44,012 --> 01:19:46,982
}People build stuff all
the time without permits,
1993
01:19:47,015 --> 01:19:48,483
}and they don't get caught.
1994
01:19:48,517 --> 01:19:50,085
Until somebody like
me comes along.
1995
01:20:02,564 --> 01:20:03,532
Lift it up.
1996
01:20:03,565 --> 01:20:06,535
Up and over.
1997
01:20:06,568 --> 01:20:07,035
Here.
1998
01:20:19,181 --> 01:20:23,251
Doing scare acting, it's just
out of the question for me.
1999
01:20:23,285 --> 01:20:25,053
So I thought, what
else can I do?
2000
01:20:25,086 --> 01:20:28,056
How can I just take
this to another level?
2001
01:20:28,089 --> 01:20:29,591
To a different step?
2002
01:20:29,624 --> 01:20:32,194
And I started to look at
taking the scare out of it,
2003
01:20:32,227 --> 01:20:33,562
and just doing acting.
2004
01:20:33,595 --> 01:20:35,263
Maybe doing creepy
things with acting.
2005
01:20:35,297 --> 01:20:37,332
Because I like to still
do the creepy stuff.
2006
01:20:37,365 --> 01:20:39,067
Welcome.
2007
01:20:39,100 --> 01:20:42,504
I play a-- like a sadistic,
cynical kind of teacher.
2008
01:20:45,707 --> 01:20:49,377
The scare acting side
is a lot quicker.
2009
01:20:49,411 --> 01:20:52,214
You have, like, your
interaction with your guest,
2010
01:20:52,247 --> 01:20:53,481
and then you're out of there.
2011
01:20:53,515 --> 01:20:55,383
It's a one and
one kind of thing.
2012
01:20:55,417 --> 01:20:59,654
With the acting, you're working
for a bigger group of people.
2013
01:20:59,688 --> 01:21:01,256
You're not in their face.
2014
01:21:01,289 --> 01:21:03,358
It's a lot safer.
2015
01:21:03,391 --> 01:21:05,393
No one has attacked me.
2016
01:21:05,427 --> 01:21:08,163
Jerry, he was thrilled.
2017
01:21:08,196 --> 01:21:11,499
He's like-- he's really,
now, more into, like,
2018
01:21:11,533 --> 01:21:15,170
what I'm doing than he has
been in the past, by far.
2019
01:21:15,203 --> 01:21:15,670
Move!
2020
01:21:15,704 --> 01:21:16,504
Move!
2021
01:21:16,538 --> 01:21:17,305
[non-english]!
2022
01:21:21,576 --> 01:21:24,980
My-- boss
approached me, saying,
2023
01:21:25,013 --> 01:21:26,214
I've heard about your haunt.
2024
01:21:26,248 --> 01:21:27,716
I hear it's off the wall.
2025
01:21:27,749 --> 01:21:33,555
And invited me to construct
their set for NAB.
2026
01:21:33,588 --> 01:21:37,993
That's one of the biggest trade
shows in the world for, like,
2027
01:21:38,026 --> 01:21:39,060
electronic media.
2028
01:21:39,094 --> 01:21:40,962
And they hired me to do it.
2029
01:21:40,996 --> 01:21:42,530
I got paid for that.
2030
01:21:42,564 --> 01:21:45,700
We built a Zodiac Killer
murderer scene, live broadcast
2031
01:21:45,734 --> 01:21:47,535
booth.
2032
01:21:47,569 --> 01:21:49,204
It's made him feel so creative
again, so passionate again.
2033
01:21:49,237 --> 01:21:50,672
I mean, that's coming
through in everything
2034
01:21:50,705 --> 01:21:53,241
that he's doing, both
at work and home.
2035
01:21:53,275 --> 01:21:55,677
We were nominated
top five booths
2036
01:21:55,710 --> 01:21:58,413
at NAB for 2015, which
from my understanding
2037
01:21:58,446 --> 01:21:59,614
has never happened before.
2038
01:21:59,648 --> 01:22:01,316
Which made me feel very good.
2039
01:22:01,349 --> 01:22:03,318
It was like-- it was like
I was prop making again,
2040
01:22:03,351 --> 01:22:06,688
and once again, you know, it
felt like I was in my element.
2041
01:22:06,721 --> 01:22:08,556
It was huge, the
amount of networking
2042
01:22:08,590 --> 01:22:10,458
that that provided him with.
2043
01:22:10,492 --> 01:22:14,429
You know, like, I can't really
maintain my resentment for--
2044
01:22:14,462 --> 01:22:16,097
you know, Halloween.
2045
01:22:16,131 --> 01:22:17,699
Spent three months
building it, 20 hour days.
2046
01:22:17,732 --> 01:22:19,334
One of the coolest things
I've done with my husband.
2047
01:22:19,367 --> 01:22:20,769
{\an8}It was great
working with my wife.
2048
01:22:20,802 --> 01:22:23,338
}I feel like it brought
us closer together.
2049
01:22:23,371 --> 01:22:25,006
Because I was such
a big part of it.
2050
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,574
It wasn't just his 16 hour days.
2051
01:22:26,608 --> 01:22:28,143
It wasn't just his back aches.
2052
01:22:28,176 --> 01:22:30,445
We could go through
the lows together.
2053
01:22:30,478 --> 01:22:32,013
When we went out
to celebrate, that
2054
01:22:32,047 --> 01:22:33,381
was something we
could do together.
2055
01:22:33,415 --> 01:22:35,216
She did all the jars.
2056
01:22:35,250 --> 01:22:36,551
She was the one who was putting,
like, oh, I got a tongue.
2057
01:22:36,584 --> 01:22:37,585
I'm going to throw
a tongue in there.
2058
01:22:37,619 --> 01:22:38,453
That's terrifying.
2059
01:22:38,486 --> 01:22:40,088
That's great.
2060
01:22:40,121 --> 01:22:41,156
I'm like, where have
you been all my life?
2061
01:22:41,189 --> 01:22:41,289
}Like, where was this person?
2062
01:22:44,292 --> 01:22:47,162
I'm just really glad to see
that after all of this time,
2063
01:22:47,195 --> 01:22:51,299
after all this haroBwork--
2064
01:22:51,333 --> 01:22:52,467
we might get to live the dream.
2065
01:22:56,071 --> 01:22:57,305
}To terrify people
for a living.
2066
01:23:04,145 --> 01:23:06,281
[screaming]
2067
01:23:09,751 --> 01:23:12,253
[screaming]
2068
01:23:16,725 --> 01:23:18,293
Oh, god.
2069
01:23:18,326 --> 01:23:19,294
I survived!
2070
01:23:19,327 --> 01:23:20,695
I survived!
2071
01:23:20,729 --> 01:23:23,198
[roaring]
2072
01:23:24,699 --> 01:23:27,569
[screaming]
2073
01:23:32,674 --> 01:23:35,143
[laughter]
2074
01:23:38,646 --> 01:23:41,116
[screaming]
2075
01:23:53,161 --> 01:23:54,462
}I love my brother!
2076
01:23:57,565 --> 01:23:58,500
All right, thank you!
2077
01:23:58,533 --> 01:23:59,434
Thank you!
2078
01:24:20,488 --> 01:24:24,859
I put out to all the hunters
out there, look, you know,
2079
01:24:24,893 --> 01:24:26,528
does anybody have a
building who wants
2080
01:24:26,561 --> 01:24:28,263
to go into partnership
with me, and I
2081
01:24:28,296 --> 01:24:29,864
got flooded with a lot
of really good responses.
2082
01:24:29,898 --> 01:24:33,401
Found one in Illinois that
I thought was really good.
2083
01:24:33,435 --> 01:24:36,137
So this is a midwest
town, and I'm so naive.
2084
01:24:36,171 --> 01:24:39,307
I'm thinking, they're gonna love
me, because I'm a lovable guy.
2085
01:24:39,340 --> 01:24:42,644
Well, not so fast
there, compadre.
2086
01:24:42,677 --> 01:24:45,413
So, you know, they want
to burn my building down.
2087
01:24:45,447 --> 01:24:46,548
They want to kill us.
2088
01:24:46,581 --> 01:24:47,782
They want to--
2089
01:24:47,816 --> 01:24:50,852
But in San Diego,
they wanted to--
2090
01:24:50,885 --> 01:24:52,520
Burn the building down.
2091
01:24:52,554 --> 01:24:53,354
Kill me.
2092
01:24:53,388 --> 01:24:54,222
Bomb threats.
2093
01:24:54,255 --> 01:24:55,490
Yeah, so--
2094
01:24:55,523 --> 01:24:57,692
So where are you
thinking, in your mind,
2095
01:24:57,725 --> 01:24:59,594
that you're gonna go,
where you're not going
2096
01:24:59,627 --> 01:25:01,296
to get people that want to--
2097
01:25:01,329 --> 01:25:03,865
Burn the building down,
kill me, and bomb threats.
2098
01:25:03,898 --> 01:25:05,400
Where's that fantasy land?
2099
01:25:05,433 --> 01:25:07,235
Fantasy Island.
2100
01:25:07,268 --> 01:25:08,803
[music playing]
2101
01:25:49,344 --> 01:25:50,512
No!
2102
01:26:18,373 --> 01:26:21,309
[music playing]
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