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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,058 --> 00:00:26,058 Hey, Shareen. 2 00:00:26,092 --> 00:00:28,128 Hi, Scott. How are you? 3 00:00:28,228 --> 00:00:29,538 I should tell you this in advance. 4 00:00:29,562 --> 00:00:33,133 I'm looking at the clock here. It's 1:18. 5 00:00:33,233 --> 00:00:34,968 It's supposed to be a 1:30 lockup, 6 00:00:35,068 --> 00:00:36,903 so we may only get 12 minutes. 7 00:00:37,003 --> 00:00:38,138 OK. 8 00:00:38,238 --> 00:00:40,240 I'm not sure what they'll do. 9 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:44,077 I have a few questions for you today. 10 00:00:44,177 --> 00:00:47,180 After the world basically heard your phone calls 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,415 with Amber Frey, 12 00:00:48,515 --> 00:00:52,719 they came to the conclusion that you killed Laci. 13 00:00:52,819 --> 00:00:55,088 How does that make you feel? 14 00:01:03,530 --> 00:01:05,565 Why didn't you tell the police right away 15 00:01:05,665 --> 00:01:07,434 about Amber Frey? 16 00:02:16,736 --> 00:02:19,272 Police in Modesto, California, continue searching 17 00:02:19,372 --> 00:02:21,608 for 27-year-old Laci Peterson. 18 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:25,779 As the investigation into the disappearance 19 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:27,614 of Laci Peterson continues, 20 00:02:27,714 --> 00:02:29,582 police are tracking her husband's movements 21 00:02:29,683 --> 00:02:32,585 outside the Modesto, California, area. 22 00:02:32,686 --> 00:02:34,487 Even as the focus of the search 23 00:02:34,587 --> 00:02:36,690 appears to be shifting towards Scott, 24 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:40,760 Modesto Police have still not named him as a suspect. 25 00:02:43,296 --> 00:02:45,231 I'm Mike Gudgell. 26 00:02:45,331 --> 00:02:48,535 I've been involved in the Peterson case 27 00:02:48,635 --> 00:02:51,738 for almost two decades now. 28 00:02:51,838 --> 00:02:54,507 In 2002, I was working for ABC News 29 00:02:54,607 --> 00:02:57,043 as an editorial producer. 30 00:02:57,143 --> 00:03:01,581 When I first arrived, a couple of days after Christmas Day, 31 00:03:01,681 --> 00:03:04,684 it was quite a crowd of media surrounding the house... 32 00:03:04,784 --> 00:03:08,588 police checkpoints, satellite trucks. 33 00:03:08,688 --> 00:03:14,227 It was what I call a complete media feeding frenzy. 34 00:03:14,327 --> 00:03:16,563 By then, we really hadn't established sources 35 00:03:16,663 --> 00:03:17,664 with the police, 36 00:03:17,764 --> 00:03:21,368 but we were hearing they were focused on Scott. 37 00:03:23,336 --> 00:03:24,537 We heard that the Petersons 38 00:03:24,637 --> 00:03:27,474 had hired a private investigator. 39 00:03:27,574 --> 00:03:29,676 We understood he was talking to witnesses 40 00:03:29,776 --> 00:03:32,545 who saw Laci alive after Scott left. 41 00:03:32,645 --> 00:03:34,347 That might be different than what 42 00:03:34,447 --> 00:03:36,282 we're hearing from the police. 43 00:03:36,383 --> 00:03:40,153 A beautiful young lady, very pregnant. 44 00:03:40,253 --> 00:03:42,222 Walking across the street. 45 00:03:42,322 --> 00:03:44,457 Walking, like, towards the park. 46 00:03:44,557 --> 00:03:48,294 The fact is, within a 30, 40-minute time, 47 00:03:48,395 --> 00:03:51,431 there were five or six witnesses who saw Laci. 48 00:03:51,531 --> 00:03:55,802 So we knew that the police narrative wasn't solid. 49 00:03:55,902 --> 00:04:00,473 And then we heard that there had been a burglary next door. 50 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:04,811 We had a burglary that was reported to have occurred 51 00:04:04,911 --> 00:04:08,648 directly across the street from the residence in question here. 52 00:04:08,748 --> 00:04:11,151 We're outside the home of Scott and Laci Peterson's home 53 00:04:11,251 --> 00:04:12,652 in Modesto, 523 Covena. 54 00:04:12,752 --> 00:04:14,754 We want to show you directly across the street. 55 00:04:14,854 --> 00:04:18,425 That's 516, known as the Medina home, 56 00:04:18,525 --> 00:04:20,603 that had a burglary happen right around the time frame 57 00:04:20,627 --> 00:04:23,396 of Laci Peterson's disappearance. 58 00:04:24,864 --> 00:04:28,401 The Medinas left December 24th at about 10:30 AM. 59 00:04:28,501 --> 00:04:31,204 They returned home December 26th 60 00:04:31,304 --> 00:04:33,440 at about 4:30 in the afternoon. 61 00:04:33,540 --> 00:04:35,275 During the time frame while they were gone 62 00:04:35,375 --> 00:04:37,610 is when Laci was reported missing. 63 00:04:37,711 --> 00:04:40,280 When the news of the burglary came out, 64 00:04:40,380 --> 00:04:42,215 we assumed immediately that it would be 65 00:04:42,315 --> 00:04:44,584 a big break in the case. 66 00:04:44,684 --> 00:04:47,654 Really kind of went, oh, OK, we're getting somewhere now. 67 00:04:47,754 --> 00:04:50,690 This could be the best lead that we've had. 68 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:53,793 The police were now not only trying to figure out 69 00:04:53,893 --> 00:04:55,428 what happened to Laci, 70 00:04:55,528 --> 00:04:57,440 but they were trying to solve the Medina burglary, 71 00:04:57,464 --> 00:04:58,698 thinking that this burglary 72 00:04:58,798 --> 00:05:02,469 potentially had something to do with what happened to Laci. 73 00:05:02,569 --> 00:05:05,438 The issue around the burglary is when did it happen? 74 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:09,743 On the 24th, the day Laci went missing, 75 00:05:09,843 --> 00:05:14,614 a neighbor of Scott and Laci was driving home. 76 00:05:14,714 --> 00:05:17,384 I was coming home from the hand therapist 77 00:05:17,484 --> 00:05:21,354 and drove by Laci's house. 78 00:05:21,454 --> 00:05:23,923 And I thought, "Oh, who are those people 79 00:05:24,024 --> 00:05:26,626 on the Medinas' front lawn?" 80 00:05:26,726 --> 00:05:29,996 And they were right next to a van. 81 00:05:30,096 --> 00:05:32,298 One door was a little open. 82 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:34,367 They turned around and looked at me, 83 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:37,904 and I felt hostility. 84 00:05:38,004 --> 00:05:40,273 But I didn't think anything of it. 85 00:05:40,373 --> 00:05:43,677 I thought, "Well, I don't need to be 86 00:05:43,777 --> 00:05:45,645 "looking at them or waving or anything. 87 00:05:45,745 --> 00:05:47,714 I'll just go on home." 88 00:05:49,516 --> 00:05:50,693 When she heard about this burglary 89 00:05:50,717 --> 00:05:53,753 and then the news of Laci's disappearance, 90 00:05:53,853 --> 00:05:57,924 she came forward and thought, "Oh, maybe this is important." 91 00:05:58,024 --> 00:06:02,328 Diane Jackson described the three men as dark skinned 92 00:06:02,429 --> 00:06:04,631 but not African American. 93 00:06:04,731 --> 00:06:06,666 A thousand dollars for someone 94 00:06:06,766 --> 00:06:10,337 that leads us to the persons responsible for the burglary. 95 00:06:10,437 --> 00:06:12,505 They had put out a reward. 96 00:06:12,605 --> 00:06:14,808 On the reward flyer, they used the information 97 00:06:14,908 --> 00:06:18,111 that they'd gotten from Diane Jackson. 98 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:19,546 You're looking for a van. 99 00:06:19,646 --> 00:06:21,181 You're looking for three men. 100 00:06:21,281 --> 00:06:24,818 They put a senior detective from the Major Crimes Unit 101 00:06:24,918 --> 00:06:28,521 on it, got an informant almost immediately. 102 00:06:28,621 --> 00:06:32,726 They've actually made two arrests in that today. 103 00:06:32,826 --> 00:06:35,829 Modesto Police arrested two suspects, 104 00:06:35,929 --> 00:06:39,632 Steven Todd and Donald Pearce. 105 00:06:39,733 --> 00:06:42,902 Their cooperation level was off the charts. 106 00:06:43,003 --> 00:06:44,504 They both polygraphed. 107 00:06:44,604 --> 00:06:47,907 They wanted the polygraphs released to the media 108 00:06:48,008 --> 00:06:50,944 because they wanted the people in the jail to know 109 00:06:51,044 --> 00:06:54,447 that they were not involved in this case. 110 00:06:54,547 --> 00:06:56,316 Steven Todd and Glen Pearce, 111 00:06:56,416 --> 00:06:59,819 neither one of them is dark skinned, not African American. 112 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:01,521 But also, neither one of them 113 00:07:01,621 --> 00:07:03,490 has ever been associated with a van. 114 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:05,525 They said that they used a car 115 00:07:05,625 --> 00:07:07,794 and a bike to commit the burglaries. 116 00:07:07,894 --> 00:07:10,930 The informant told police that up to five people 117 00:07:11,031 --> 00:07:13,967 were involved, and they didn't look into 118 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:15,101 any of the others. 119 00:07:15,201 --> 00:07:17,771 Well, I'd like to see who these additional people are 120 00:07:17,871 --> 00:07:19,439 and where they came up with the idea 121 00:07:19,539 --> 00:07:20,940 that additional people were involved 122 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:21,908 in the burglary itself. 123 00:07:22,008 --> 00:07:24,778 I don't see anything that would suggest that. 124 00:07:24,878 --> 00:07:27,747 Diane Jackson claimed that she saw a van 125 00:07:27,847 --> 00:07:30,617 across the street from the Peterson house on the 24th. 126 00:07:30,717 --> 00:07:31,961 She couldn't even really confirm 127 00:07:31,985 --> 00:07:34,454 what the color of the van was. 128 00:07:34,554 --> 00:07:36,656 And when you have that kind of discrepancy, 129 00:07:36,756 --> 00:07:38,892 when it comes to even the description of the vehicle, 130 00:07:38,992 --> 00:07:41,528 it calls into question the reliability of that witness. 131 00:07:41,628 --> 00:07:43,596 At this point, there is no connection. 132 00:07:43,697 --> 00:07:45,441 There's no leads to indicate that they were involved 133 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:47,434 in the missing of Laci. 134 00:07:47,534 --> 00:07:48,835 We solved that burglary. 135 00:07:48,935 --> 00:07:51,838 Found out that it, in fact, occurred on the 26th. 136 00:07:53,206 --> 00:07:57,477 Steven Todd says that the burglary was on the 26th, 137 00:07:57,577 --> 00:08:00,447 but that's according to the burglar. 138 00:08:00,547 --> 00:08:01,948 He changed it. 139 00:08:02,048 --> 00:08:05,418 He picked, "Oh, it happened on December 27th. 140 00:08:05,518 --> 00:08:06,886 Oh, no, it was the 26th." 141 00:08:06,986 --> 00:08:09,856 So it wasn't very reliable, that's for sure. 142 00:08:09,956 --> 00:08:12,759 I thought, "Well, that's quite interesting," 143 00:08:12,859 --> 00:08:14,961 because on the 26th, 144 00:08:15,061 --> 00:08:18,498 there was a lot of activity on Scott and Laci's street, 145 00:08:18,598 --> 00:08:20,834 and how could burglars get in and out 146 00:08:20,934 --> 00:08:23,603 without anybody seeing them? 147 00:08:23,703 --> 00:08:25,505 I thought it was highly improbable 148 00:08:25,605 --> 00:08:28,742 that that was the truth. 149 00:08:29,976 --> 00:08:32,579 They solved that burglary really quickly. 150 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,581 But there's a distinction that needs to be made 151 00:08:34,681 --> 00:08:36,049 between solving the burglary 152 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:37,660 and saying it didn't have anything to do 153 00:08:37,684 --> 00:08:40,820 with Laci's disappearance. 154 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,956 I find that pretty unbelievable. 155 00:08:43,056 --> 00:08:46,159 That would be an incredible coincidence. 156 00:08:46,259 --> 00:08:50,063 One of the lead investigators, Jon Buehler, often told me, 157 00:08:50,163 --> 00:08:53,466 there are no coincidences in murder investigations. 158 00:08:56,670 --> 00:08:58,872 Todd and Pearce, the two that we know 159 00:08:58,972 --> 00:09:00,907 burgled the house across the street. 160 00:09:01,007 --> 00:09:04,210 We don't know who else was in that burglary. 161 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:05,879 We know there were others. 162 00:09:05,979 --> 00:09:07,914 There was just no desire to pursue 163 00:09:08,014 --> 00:09:10,116 what the evidence was telling them. 164 00:09:10,216 --> 00:09:13,620 I mean, it was the evidence that they just decided 165 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,722 to ignore and go with theory. 166 00:09:20,794 --> 00:09:22,896 Today marking the one-month anniversary 167 00:09:22,996 --> 00:09:25,665 of Laci Peterson's disappearance. 168 00:09:25,765 --> 00:09:27,967 Police right now expected any moment now 169 00:09:28,068 --> 00:09:29,945 to walk up to the podium and give us the very latest 170 00:09:29,969 --> 00:09:31,538 on their investigation. 171 00:09:31,638 --> 00:09:33,206 The press conference of... 172 00:09:33,306 --> 00:09:35,542 of all press conferences 173 00:09:35,642 --> 00:09:38,878 was when they marched out Amber Frey. 174 00:09:38,978 --> 00:09:43,883 I am very sorry for Laci's family 175 00:09:43,983 --> 00:09:47,721 and the... the pain that this has caused them. 176 00:09:47,821 --> 00:09:49,889 Amber changed everything. 177 00:09:49,989 --> 00:09:52,325 She became the focus. 178 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:54,728 Wow, what a development that is. 179 00:09:54,828 --> 00:09:56,763 The missing woman's apparently perfect marriage 180 00:09:56,863 --> 00:09:58,631 may not have been so perfect. 181 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,280 That he'd been having an affair. 182 00:10:01,968 --> 00:10:05,105 And we felt that if he had not been truthful about that, 183 00:10:05,205 --> 00:10:07,540 that possibly there's other things 184 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,075 he needs to talk to us about. 185 00:10:09,175 --> 00:10:11,011 Support for Scott Peterson has wavered 186 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:12,979 since police told Laci's family. 187 00:10:13,079 --> 00:10:14,919 I would like Scott to know that I trusted him 188 00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:16,392 and stood by him in the initial phases 189 00:10:16,416 --> 00:10:18,251 of my sister's disappearance. 190 00:10:18,351 --> 00:10:20,854 However, Scott has not been forthcoming with information 191 00:10:20,954 --> 00:10:22,922 regarding my sister's disappearance, 192 00:10:23,023 --> 00:10:25,892 and I'm only left to question what else he may be hiding. 193 00:10:28,395 --> 00:10:29,863 Scott had been declining 194 00:10:29,963 --> 00:10:32,065 interview requests consistently. 195 00:10:34,034 --> 00:10:36,970 Now, when Amber Frey is out there, 196 00:10:37,070 --> 00:10:38,271 nobody's looking for Laci. 197 00:10:38,371 --> 00:10:39,382 Everybody thinks he's guilty. 198 00:10:39,406 --> 00:10:42,242 So he decided, all right, I'll do a few interviews. 199 00:10:42,342 --> 00:10:44,244 Did you murder your wife? 200 00:10:44,344 --> 00:10:46,913 No, no. I did not. 201 00:10:47,013 --> 00:10:50,617 And I had absolutely nothing to do with her disappearance. 202 00:10:50,717 --> 00:10:52,719 In that interview with Diane Sawyer, 203 00:10:52,819 --> 00:10:55,855 Scott makes the outlandish claim that... 204 00:10:55,955 --> 00:10:57,857 I told my wife. 205 00:10:57,957 --> 00:11:00,694 He told Laci about the affair, 206 00:11:00,794 --> 00:11:02,629 and she was OK with it. 207 00:11:02,729 --> 00:11:04,964 There wasn't a lot of anger? 208 00:11:05,065 --> 00:11:06,066 No. 209 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:08,768 Do you really expect people to believe 210 00:11:08,868 --> 00:11:10,870 that an 8 and 1/2 month pregnant woman 211 00:11:10,970 --> 00:11:13,373 learns her husband has had an affair 212 00:11:13,473 --> 00:11:15,608 and makes a peace with it? 213 00:11:15,709 --> 00:11:18,978 Well, I... yeah, you don't know. 214 00:11:19,079 --> 00:11:21,715 No one knows our relationship but us. 215 00:11:21,815 --> 00:11:23,216 That was the nail in his coffin. 216 00:11:23,316 --> 00:11:27,220 This is ludicrous, the idea that Laci knew about Amber. 217 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,857 He came across as being disingenuous. 218 00:11:30,957 --> 00:11:33,259 And in a couple of cases, just lied right out. 219 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,260 Had you told anyone? 220 00:11:34,361 --> 00:11:35,628 Did you tell police? 221 00:11:35,729 --> 00:11:36,839 I told the police immediately. 222 00:11:36,863 --> 00:11:38,965 - When? - December 24th. 223 00:11:39,065 --> 00:11:41,935 Laci Peterson's husband admits he lied 224 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:44,270 about his extramarital affair with Amber Frey. 225 00:11:44,371 --> 00:11:46,740 When you're in a hole, stop digging. 226 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,775 He shot himself in the foot so many times, 227 00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:50,677 he ought to be on crutches. 228 00:11:50,777 --> 00:11:51,821 That's when the word "psychopath" 229 00:11:51,845 --> 00:11:54,314 started to creep in in some of the reports. 230 00:11:54,414 --> 00:11:56,883 He did four interviews, I believe, total. 231 00:11:56,983 --> 00:11:59,152 One of the interviews he did was with me. 232 00:12:00,854 --> 00:12:03,089 Well, the polygraph is another one of those things. 233 00:12:03,189 --> 00:12:05,392 I'm not saying I have. I'm not saying I haven't. 234 00:12:05,492 --> 00:12:06,926 There's no winning. 235 00:12:07,027 --> 00:12:08,728 You can never present the reality. 236 00:12:08,828 --> 00:12:10,363 If you go out and you do an interview, 237 00:12:10,463 --> 00:12:11,731 it's gonna be edited. 238 00:12:11,831 --> 00:12:13,199 It's gonna be awful. 239 00:12:13,299 --> 00:12:17,704 Amber Frey claims that you called her on the 24th, 240 00:12:17,804 --> 00:12:19,839 told her that you were going to Brussels. 241 00:12:19,939 --> 00:12:21,941 Yeah, this is a short newscast, 242 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:22,876 and I don't know how much of these words 243 00:12:22,976 --> 00:12:25,011 you're going to use or not. 244 00:12:25,111 --> 00:12:27,847 But I'm not gonna waste that by defending myself, 245 00:12:27,947 --> 00:12:29,949 talking about irrelevant things. 246 00:12:30,050 --> 00:12:33,653 He looked like a narcissistic, 247 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:36,990 lying killer. 248 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,930 I've had people spit on me at gas stations. 249 00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:46,166 I've received death threats on the phone. 250 00:12:51,938 --> 00:12:54,174 I had someone in the front yard 251 00:12:54,274 --> 00:12:55,975 claiming they were a witch, 252 00:12:56,076 --> 00:12:58,178 burying things in the front lawn. 253 00:12:58,278 --> 00:13:00,046 I wish I could say I was stronger, 254 00:13:00,146 --> 00:13:03,216 but all that stuff did take a toll on me. 255 00:13:05,118 --> 00:13:09,356 I just remembered how insane I was 256 00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:11,024 going with no sleep 257 00:13:11,124 --> 00:13:15,195 and worried about Conner and Laci 258 00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:18,965 and what seemed like just a apathetic response 259 00:13:19,065 --> 00:13:21,868 from the police department. 260 00:13:21,968 --> 00:13:23,336 Scott's behavior fit into things 261 00:13:23,436 --> 00:13:26,272 that we've seen before with other murder cases... 262 00:13:26,373 --> 00:13:29,342 limited cooperation level, his cool, calm demeanor 263 00:13:29,442 --> 00:13:31,878 when everybody else was just frantic. 264 00:13:31,978 --> 00:13:33,279 And there were too many other 265 00:13:33,380 --> 00:13:36,049 circumstantial evidence items to ignore. 266 00:13:36,149 --> 00:13:38,785 It started to become increasingly obvious to us 267 00:13:38,885 --> 00:13:40,987 that they would be found in the bay. 268 00:13:50,897 --> 00:13:52,132 The search in the waters 269 00:13:52,232 --> 00:13:55,135 just outside the Berkeley Marina began early. 270 00:13:55,235 --> 00:13:58,004 17 divers from Alameda County loaded up on boats 271 00:13:58,104 --> 00:14:00,473 and swept the floor of the open water 272 00:14:00,573 --> 00:14:02,108 just outside of the marina. 273 00:14:02,208 --> 00:14:04,353 Scott had given us a detailed description of how he had 274 00:14:04,377 --> 00:14:06,322 gone out of the marina, and he'd gone to the north, 275 00:14:06,346 --> 00:14:08,048 and he found this island, which turned out 276 00:14:08,148 --> 00:14:10,150 to be Brooks Island, with a sign that said, 277 00:14:10,250 --> 00:14:11,594 you're not supposed to leave your boat 278 00:14:11,618 --> 00:14:12,952 and walk around on the island. 279 00:14:13,053 --> 00:14:15,121 So it seemed obvious that he probably 280 00:14:15,221 --> 00:14:17,891 let her go in the area right by Brooks Island 281 00:14:17,991 --> 00:14:19,359 in the Berkeley Marina. 282 00:14:22,095 --> 00:14:23,963 My name is Danny Lopez. 283 00:14:24,064 --> 00:14:26,166 I was the officer in charge of the San Francisco 284 00:14:26,266 --> 00:14:28,368 Police Department Marine Patrol. 285 00:14:28,468 --> 00:14:31,471 We're retracing Scott Peterson's trip 286 00:14:31,571 --> 00:14:34,007 on the 24th. 287 00:14:34,107 --> 00:14:38,144 Dead ahead is the Brooks Island. 288 00:14:38,244 --> 00:14:41,014 The reason that it's difficult to find somebody 289 00:14:41,114 --> 00:14:44,551 in the San Francisco Bay is the visibility 290 00:14:44,651 --> 00:14:48,321 is probably about this much. 291 00:14:48,421 --> 00:14:53,159 This is the location that we were spending most of our time. 292 00:14:53,259 --> 00:14:55,929 That's where the grid searches were done, 293 00:14:56,029 --> 00:14:58,365 the side-scan sonar, the underwater searches, 294 00:14:58,465 --> 00:15:01,067 cadaver dogs. 295 00:15:01,167 --> 00:15:03,036 We're continuing our search today, 296 00:15:03,136 --> 00:15:04,904 and we're concentrating on... 297 00:15:05,005 --> 00:15:06,973 on several different things. 298 00:15:07,073 --> 00:15:08,641 We were on that water every day, 299 00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:11,177 sometimes with multiple boats, 300 00:15:11,277 --> 00:15:14,514 multiple water cadaver dogs, 301 00:15:14,614 --> 00:15:16,149 helicopters. 302 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:18,284 The number of searches in that bay 303 00:15:18,385 --> 00:15:23,456 probably was in the mid-500 range. 304 00:15:24,991 --> 00:15:26,559 It's a lot of area to cover. 305 00:15:26,659 --> 00:15:31,264 It was looking for a needle in the haystack blindfolded. 306 00:15:31,364 --> 00:15:34,000 One of those things that you just do it. 307 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:35,869 You have to give closure to the family. 308 00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:42,542 I think the way it started to affect me 309 00:15:42,642 --> 00:15:44,310 and others was the fact that 310 00:15:44,411 --> 00:15:47,080 it was a pregnant mother that was missing. 311 00:15:47,180 --> 00:15:49,883 We keep searching till we find her. 312 00:15:49,983 --> 00:15:51,263 I'll just keep carrying this on, 313 00:15:51,317 --> 00:15:56,089 and my family will understand why I'm not home. 314 00:15:56,189 --> 00:15:58,591 And I felt like I was looking for my sister. 315 00:16:03,363 --> 00:16:05,598 You can't help to get a personal attachment 316 00:16:05,699 --> 00:16:07,901 over a period of time. 317 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:16,443 This is a good... good point of reference. 318 00:16:16,543 --> 00:16:21,081 Another part of the search was to look for devices, anchors, 319 00:16:21,181 --> 00:16:23,650 homemade anchors, anything that would 320 00:16:23,750 --> 00:16:26,419 have kept a body submerged. 321 00:16:28,455 --> 00:16:31,891 We found two homemade anchors. 322 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:33,560 They were cylindrical. 323 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:37,530 They looked like they were formed in a large coffee can 324 00:16:37,630 --> 00:16:40,300 or maybe a paint can. 325 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,370 It was determined that they were not connected 326 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:45,972 to the Scott Peterson investigation, 327 00:16:46,072 --> 00:16:49,042 so they were thrown back into the bay. 328 00:16:49,142 --> 00:16:53,213 But I thought it was odd 329 00:16:53,313 --> 00:16:57,050 that we didn't put them into evidence 330 00:16:57,150 --> 00:16:59,152 and examine them. 331 00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:02,322 After months and months of searching 332 00:17:02,422 --> 00:17:08,094 with multiple agencies, they were never recovered. 333 00:17:08,194 --> 00:17:09,572 The district attorney at the time, 334 00:17:09,596 --> 00:17:11,140 he said, "Hey, if you don't bring me a body, 335 00:17:11,164 --> 00:17:12,632 you don't have a filing." 336 00:17:12,732 --> 00:17:14,734 We're getting to that point where there really 337 00:17:14,834 --> 00:17:15,935 wasn't anything coming in. 338 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:18,638 We were resurrecting some old tips and clearing those out, 339 00:17:18,738 --> 00:17:22,575 but nothing ground shaking until we get to April. 340 00:17:28,481 --> 00:17:31,317 In 2003, I was a police officer 341 00:17:31,418 --> 00:17:34,187 with the East Bay Regional Park District. 342 00:17:34,287 --> 00:17:36,256 One day during briefing, 343 00:17:36,356 --> 00:17:38,391 one of our sergeants made a comment... 344 00:17:38,491 --> 00:17:41,528 "I bet she'll show up at Point Isabel." 345 00:17:41,628 --> 00:17:45,432 His experience, it was that the way the tides flow 346 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:48,301 in San Francisco Bay, that more than once, 347 00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:51,004 they had had bodies that had been recovered 348 00:17:51,104 --> 00:17:52,739 from the area of Point Isabel. 349 00:17:58,611 --> 00:18:01,481 A female adult body was discovered late this morning 350 00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:04,984 by a woman walking the shoreline at Point Isabel 351 00:18:05,085 --> 00:18:06,419 in the city of Richmond. 352 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:09,055 You could see a deceased female 353 00:18:09,155 --> 00:18:12,425 lying face down on the shoreline. 354 00:18:12,525 --> 00:18:14,427 Her body was in terrible, 355 00:18:14,527 --> 00:18:17,097 obviously very decomposed condition. 356 00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:20,100 One of the things that I noticed on her body 357 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,338 was a strip of duct tape that was on the front of her torso. 358 00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:29,009 My first reaction was, "We better notify 359 00:18:29,109 --> 00:18:32,145 the Modesto Police Department." 360 00:18:32,245 --> 00:18:34,814 I remember vividly being in my car 361 00:18:34,914 --> 00:18:37,217 and hearing it on the radio 362 00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:41,421 that a body had been found 363 00:18:41,521 --> 00:18:46,993 and that an infant body had also been found the day before. 364 00:18:47,093 --> 00:18:50,263 No word yet on whether the two bodies found in the bay 365 00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:52,665 are those of Laci Peterson and her baby. 366 00:18:52,766 --> 00:18:55,535 The lab results could come any time now. 367 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:12,152 So frankly, we thought because 368 00:19:12,252 --> 00:19:15,422 there hadn't been an announcement... 369 00:19:23,596 --> 00:19:24,836 You know, it wasn't unheard of. 370 00:19:24,864 --> 00:19:26,433 There was... 371 00:19:26,533 --> 00:19:28,134 there's been other bodies, you know, 372 00:19:28,234 --> 00:19:31,705 on the bay before. 373 00:19:31,805 --> 00:19:33,907 There's some people who've driven into the bay, 374 00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:35,442 and their bodies were found. 375 00:19:35,542 --> 00:19:39,112 So it wasn't like it was the only possibility. 376 00:19:43,116 --> 00:19:46,286 The bodies hadn't been confirmed as Laci and Conner, 377 00:19:46,386 --> 00:19:48,421 although it looked likely that they were. 378 00:19:48,822 --> 00:19:53,193 We put a team of guys on Scott right away. 379 00:19:53,293 --> 00:19:55,495 We were gonna just watch him 380 00:19:55,595 --> 00:19:59,466 until the attorney general released the DNA evidence. 381 00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:01,501 We still had a wiretap on his phone, 382 00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:04,304 so we could hear what he was saying, talking to his brother. 383 00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:33,466 The next day, all of a sudden, 384 00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:36,836 Scott started moving very early in the day. 385 00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:39,239 And so the chase was on. 386 00:20:46,246 --> 00:20:48,148 Yeah, see that tangle? 387 00:20:48,248 --> 00:20:49,282 I'll be right there. 388 00:20:49,382 --> 00:20:51,251 Ah, that's nice right there. 389 00:20:51,351 --> 00:20:53,453 The fish, oh, yeah. 390 00:20:53,553 --> 00:20:55,488 All right, look at that monster. 391 00:20:59,459 --> 00:21:02,262 I wanted to talk more about the arrest 392 00:21:02,362 --> 00:21:06,399 and what that day was like for you. 393 00:21:11,971 --> 00:21:13,707 Action photo. 394 00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:32,792 It may seem odd to other people, but, like... 395 00:21:35,395 --> 00:21:36,596 Look at the camera. 396 00:21:47,007 --> 00:21:48,408 And be together. 397 00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:52,545 And then when I got on the road... 398 00:22:02,989 --> 00:22:05,067 I don't want a picture of me being taken and, you know, 399 00:22:05,091 --> 00:22:06,559 splashed on a tabloid. 400 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:09,596 I just could imagine what the headlines were. 401 00:22:19,906 --> 00:22:22,409 Scott was very good at counter-surveillance driving. 402 00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:24,411 As he would drive along at high speeds, 403 00:22:24,511 --> 00:22:26,780 he would brake heavily and cut lanes. 404 00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:35,221 We were concerned that he was gonna get into a wreck 405 00:22:35,321 --> 00:22:38,291 or he was gonna create a traffic collision behind him 406 00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:40,794 because of his evasive moves. 407 00:22:40,894 --> 00:22:43,730 And so we made a decision that if... 408 00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:46,466 if he hurt somebody, we're gonna be in trouble. 409 00:22:46,566 --> 00:22:48,868 So let's arrest him. 410 00:22:52,105 --> 00:22:54,974 We were stopped at the entrance to Torrey Pines. 411 00:22:57,911 --> 00:22:59,979 When Scott got out of the car, he was... 412 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,414 he was Scott. 413 00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:03,283 There was no protest. 414 00:23:03,383 --> 00:23:04,384 "You got the wrong guy. 415 00:23:04,484 --> 00:23:05,485 "Why am I in cuffs? 416 00:23:05,585 --> 00:23:06,753 "What are you doing? 417 00:23:06,853 --> 00:23:08,573 Why aren't you guys looking for the killer?" 418 00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,891 He dyed his hair to a different color, 419 00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:13,626 grown a goatee, 420 00:23:13,727 --> 00:23:15,528 which further disguised him slightly 421 00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:18,331 so maybe he wouldn't be noticed. 422 00:23:18,431 --> 00:23:20,033 Searched his car. 423 00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:21,468 He had cell phones. 424 00:23:21,568 --> 00:23:23,470 He had Viagra. 425 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:25,572 He had everything you need 426 00:23:25,672 --> 00:23:28,408 from going to a gala 427 00:23:28,508 --> 00:23:30,110 to a camping trip. 428 00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:32,712 He could dig a gold mine. 429 00:23:32,812 --> 00:23:35,949 Most people don't drive around with $10,000 cash 430 00:23:36,049 --> 00:23:38,485 and their brother's driver's license. 431 00:23:38,585 --> 00:23:39,919 And some people had said 432 00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:42,022 that maybe he was fleeing to Mexico. 433 00:23:42,122 --> 00:23:44,958 He could easily go anywhere he wanted and fit in. 434 00:23:51,698 --> 00:23:53,733 I don't understand that at all, 435 00:23:53,833 --> 00:23:55,835 because I just want to be clear. 436 00:23:55,935 --> 00:23:58,505 I was never running from the police. 437 00:23:58,605 --> 00:24:01,574 I was always in contact with them. 438 00:24:01,675 --> 00:24:03,977 I'd answer most of their calls. 439 00:24:04,077 --> 00:24:05,812 There were times that I was very frustrated, 440 00:24:05,912 --> 00:24:07,947 that I would not take their calls. 441 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,364 I found out he was arrested about 2:00. 442 00:24:57,464 --> 00:25:00,900 It was... 443 00:25:01,001 --> 00:25:02,869 it was just... we were just in shock. 444 00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:06,773 We were in... we were in absolute shock. 445 00:25:06,873 --> 00:25:10,477 So we had to make arrangements and travel to Modesto 446 00:25:10,577 --> 00:25:14,180 and attend his arraignment. 447 00:25:16,416 --> 00:25:19,019 Police in California said today that murder suspect 448 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,689 Scott Peterson had $10,000 in cash when he was arrested 449 00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:24,457 near the Mexican border. 450 00:25:24,557 --> 00:25:26,926 He had some cash in his car. 451 00:25:27,027 --> 00:25:29,729 His brother, John, was gonna buy Scott's truck from him, 452 00:25:29,829 --> 00:25:32,565 so he gave Scott the cash 453 00:25:32,665 --> 00:25:34,868 to buy Scott out of his truck. 454 00:25:34,968 --> 00:25:37,704 And Scott was still carrying that cash 455 00:25:37,804 --> 00:25:39,639 at the point that he was arrested. 456 00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:41,708 He had changed his appearance. 457 00:25:41,808 --> 00:25:46,079 Police feared he might be preparing to flee to Mexico. 458 00:25:46,179 --> 00:25:49,382 That's a narrative we still battle to this day. 459 00:25:49,482 --> 00:25:53,420 Scott was spending a lot of time with family in San Diego. 460 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,587 I live in San Diego. 461 00:25:54,688 --> 00:25:56,489 His parents lived in San Diego. 462 00:25:56,589 --> 00:25:58,992 And San Diego borders Mexico. 463 00:25:59,092 --> 00:26:02,495 So when Scott was arrested, the national headline was 464 00:26:02,595 --> 00:26:05,131 "Scott was arrested 30 miles from the Mexican border." 465 00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:12,639 The bodies had been found five days before, 466 00:26:12,739 --> 00:26:17,777 but we still had not heard a positive identification. 467 00:26:17,877 --> 00:26:20,547 Then I want to say within a couple of hours of that 468 00:26:20,647 --> 00:26:21,848 was the press conference. 469 00:26:21,948 --> 00:26:24,718 There is no question in our minds 470 00:26:24,818 --> 00:26:28,221 that the unidentified female 471 00:26:28,321 --> 00:26:29,622 is Laci Peterson. 472 00:26:29,723 --> 00:26:32,192 The unidentified fetus 473 00:26:32,292 --> 00:26:34,294 is the biological child 474 00:26:34,394 --> 00:26:37,097 of Laci and Scott Peterson. 475 00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:52,812 We were not notified. 476 00:26:52,912 --> 00:26:56,182 We heard it like everyone else. 477 00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:58,985 And we were crushed. 478 00:26:59,085 --> 00:27:03,089 All of the fear that we had in Laci being missing 479 00:27:03,189 --> 00:27:05,925 and the pins and needles that... you know, and the ups and downs 480 00:27:06,026 --> 00:27:08,728 that we went through for the past four months 481 00:27:08,828 --> 00:27:10,330 had really... 482 00:27:10,430 --> 00:27:12,298 now, it's hit rock bottom. 483 00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:26,179 After Scott was arrested, 484 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:29,182 we started driving back from San Diego to Modesto. 485 00:27:35,822 --> 00:27:40,060 When Scott received this news, 486 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,030 I just recall Scott making kind of like a sniffling noise, 487 00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:44,931 and that was it. 488 00:27:45,031 --> 00:27:47,200 There wasn't any hysterics, no screams. 489 00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:48,068 "No, it can't be!" 490 00:27:48,168 --> 00:27:51,137 No theatrics, nothing like that. 491 00:27:51,237 --> 00:27:54,174 He bowed his head and pushed out a tear. 492 00:27:54,274 --> 00:27:56,309 He was quiet. He didn't say nothing. 493 00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:00,246 15 miles later, when we stopped, 494 00:28:00,347 --> 00:28:02,849 he ate a double double, you know, from In-N-Out, 495 00:28:02,949 --> 00:28:05,085 and a shake and a fries 496 00:28:05,185 --> 00:28:08,855 and gobbled it all down just like nothing, 497 00:28:08,955 --> 00:28:10,857 just like we're just coming home from fishing. 498 00:28:31,044 --> 00:28:34,314 The police report says that Scott had a tear 499 00:28:34,414 --> 00:28:37,217 coming down his face. 500 00:28:37,317 --> 00:28:40,020 He'd been in custody for hours at this point, 501 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,288 and he's... he's going to county jail. 502 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:44,991 The perception and the way it's presented is 503 00:28:45,091 --> 00:28:48,161 it's as though Scott was told his wife and son were dead 504 00:28:48,261 --> 00:28:50,330 and he ordered a cheeseburger five minutes later. 505 00:28:58,038 --> 00:29:01,708 Well, now we can move forward. 506 00:29:01,808 --> 00:29:03,309 And now justice can be done. 507 00:29:03,410 --> 00:29:06,346 Soon after Laci went missing, I made a promise to her 508 00:29:06,446 --> 00:29:09,282 that if she has been harmed, we will seek justice 509 00:29:09,382 --> 00:29:11,785 for her and Conner and make sure that that person 510 00:29:11,885 --> 00:29:13,520 responsible for their... 511 00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:15,355 for their deaths will be punished. 512 00:29:30,303 --> 00:29:34,274 What became a fight to find Laci 513 00:29:34,374 --> 00:29:36,810 then became a fight to save Scott's life. 514 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,055 Shortly after midnight, 515 00:29:49,155 --> 00:29:51,124 when investigators escorted Scott Peterson 516 00:29:51,224 --> 00:29:53,259 to the Stanislaus County Jail, 517 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,429 a crowd of 250 taunted and heckled him, 518 00:29:56,529 --> 00:29:58,231 calling him a murderer. 519 00:29:58,331 --> 00:30:00,967 I just hope he gets the same death that he gave his family. 520 00:30:14,714 --> 00:30:17,183 Call the case of The People versus Scott Lee Peterson. 521 00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:19,219 Under tight security, Scott Peterson, 522 00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,221 wearing chains on his wrists and ankles, 523 00:30:21,321 --> 00:30:23,990 was walked into a packed Modesto courtroom today. 524 00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:25,959 Once Scott was arraigned, 525 00:30:26,059 --> 00:30:28,094 we were looking for an attorney, 526 00:30:28,194 --> 00:30:31,798 and my parents had watched "The Larry King Show" 527 00:30:31,898 --> 00:30:33,333 for the last several months. 528 00:30:33,433 --> 00:30:36,870 That's really where we first met Mark Geragos. 529 00:30:36,970 --> 00:30:38,972 This case is intriguing, if for nothing else, 530 00:30:39,072 --> 00:30:42,175 is that the more there's a lynch mob mentality out there 531 00:30:42,275 --> 00:30:44,944 for him, the more that it's intriguing. 532 00:30:45,045 --> 00:30:46,046 They hired him. 533 00:30:46,146 --> 00:30:47,914 He was media savvy. 534 00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:49,916 He seemed like he had a good team. 535 00:30:50,016 --> 00:30:52,986 I just wanted to say that we're happy that Mark is 536 00:30:53,086 --> 00:30:55,221 in place as Scott's attorney, 537 00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:59,025 and we do look forward to proving his innocence. 538 00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:00,660 I'm Lara Yeretsian, 539 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,031 and I'm a criminal defense attorney of over two decades. 540 00:31:05,131 --> 00:31:08,902 We got the case in 2003. 541 00:31:09,002 --> 00:31:10,337 I was a young attorney. 542 00:31:10,437 --> 00:31:13,206 This case was on a whole new level. 543 00:31:13,306 --> 00:31:16,776 27-year-old mom-to-be, eight months pregnant. 544 00:31:16,876 --> 00:31:19,913 As the investigation into the disappearance of Laci Peterson 545 00:31:20,013 --> 00:31:22,115 continues, police are... - Though neither the victim 546 00:31:22,215 --> 00:31:24,451 nor the accused was famous before, 547 00:31:24,551 --> 00:31:29,055 the Peterson case has now taken on celebrity status. 548 00:31:29,155 --> 00:31:30,790 I'd handled a number of cases, 549 00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:35,195 but nothing that came close to the magnitude of this case. 550 00:31:37,564 --> 00:31:43,169 The interest was so intense in this case. 551 00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:46,973 I just remember walking with Mark Geragos 552 00:31:47,073 --> 00:31:48,441 towards the courthouse. 553 00:31:48,541 --> 00:31:50,910 People would come up to us with questions. 554 00:31:51,011 --> 00:31:52,312 And it wasn't just the media. 555 00:31:52,412 --> 00:31:54,247 Mark, can we get a quick word with ya? 556 00:31:54,347 --> 00:31:57,283 - Right now? How about after? - OK. 557 00:31:57,384 --> 00:32:00,186 People would even ask for Mark's autograph. 558 00:32:00,286 --> 00:32:02,822 I mean, he had become a celebrity. 559 00:32:02,922 --> 00:32:03,957 Thank you very much. 560 00:32:04,057 --> 00:32:05,291 I'll see you guys on Thursday. 561 00:32:06,526 --> 00:32:09,929 Come on. Come on, be human beings right now. 562 00:32:10,030 --> 00:32:13,099 There was a lot of anger, palpable anger, 563 00:32:13,199 --> 00:32:14,934 towards Scott Peterson. 564 00:32:18,271 --> 00:32:20,373 And everybody had an opinion about this case. 565 00:32:20,473 --> 00:32:23,643 Every single person I knew had an opinion. 566 00:32:23,743 --> 00:32:25,378 And I can tell you, 567 00:32:25,478 --> 00:32:28,815 every single person believed that he was guilty. 568 00:32:31,951 --> 00:32:32,952 Michael Cardoza. 569 00:32:33,053 --> 00:32:34,333 Top defense attorney in the area, 570 00:32:34,421 --> 00:32:36,122 who was in the courtroom today. 571 00:32:36,222 --> 00:32:38,091 I'm Michael Cardoza. 572 00:32:38,191 --> 00:32:41,528 I've been a criminal defense attorney for over 45 years. 573 00:32:41,628 --> 00:32:45,965 And at that time, I was doing some legal commentary 574 00:32:46,066 --> 00:32:47,367 on "The Larry King Show." 575 00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:49,045 Here's what this case boils down to, Larry. 576 00:32:49,069 --> 00:32:50,270 There are three things. 577 00:32:50,370 --> 00:32:53,039 The defense team came to me and asked me 578 00:32:53,139 --> 00:32:56,609 if I would do a mock cross-examination 579 00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:59,245 of Scott Peterson. 580 00:32:59,346 --> 00:33:01,081 I went into jail. I walked in. 581 00:33:01,181 --> 00:33:04,217 I sat down. They brought Scott in. 582 00:33:04,317 --> 00:33:07,253 And I began my cross-examination. 583 00:33:07,354 --> 00:33:09,389 I cannot tell you how and what happened, 584 00:33:09,489 --> 00:33:14,627 but you can imagine, you know, what questions were asked. 585 00:33:14,728 --> 00:33:18,565 And they made a decision he wasn't going to testify. 586 00:33:18,665 --> 00:33:21,301 I hope he goes to prison for the rest of his life. 587 00:33:21,401 --> 00:33:23,603 I'm just glad that the animal got caught. 588 00:33:23,703 --> 00:33:26,206 What you have to remember is you're putting a man up there 589 00:33:26,306 --> 00:33:29,342 who was hated by America. 590 00:33:29,442 --> 00:33:32,979 And then you witnessed the previous interviews 591 00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:36,182 and how poorly he did there. 592 00:33:38,718 --> 00:33:39,753 You know what? 593 00:33:39,853 --> 00:33:43,556 It's a positive to allow us to go on to search for Laci. 594 00:33:43,656 --> 00:33:47,227 Why would you expect he's gonna do a 180 595 00:33:47,327 --> 00:33:50,030 and come across convincing 596 00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:52,532 the jury that he didn't do it? 597 00:33:54,234 --> 00:33:57,337 I think if you put Scott Peterson on the stand, 598 00:33:57,437 --> 00:33:58,972 he would have been eaten alive. 599 00:34:05,712 --> 00:34:08,948 Opening statements begin today in the double-murder 600 00:34:09,049 --> 00:34:11,251 trial of Scott Peterson. 601 00:34:11,351 --> 00:34:14,921 Scott Peterson's case is a character evidence case 602 00:34:15,021 --> 00:34:16,389 and nothing else. 603 00:34:16,489 --> 00:34:18,525 But the smoke and mirrors to it 604 00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:21,161 is the suggestion that there's a great deal 605 00:34:21,261 --> 00:34:23,229 of circumstantial evidence. There isn't. 606 00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:26,232 There's an affair, and there's the location of the bodies. 607 00:34:26,332 --> 00:34:27,634 That's the entire case. 608 00:34:27,734 --> 00:34:29,602 People don't wrap themselves in duct tape 609 00:34:29,703 --> 00:34:31,705 and then go jump in the San Francisco Bay 610 00:34:31,805 --> 00:34:32,706 in the middle of winter. 611 00:34:32,806 --> 00:34:35,308 The state knew the problems with their case. 612 00:34:35,408 --> 00:34:38,278 They didn't know how he did it, when he did it, 613 00:34:38,378 --> 00:34:43,249 but they knew that he was a liar, a cheater. 614 00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:46,186 And they relied on that. 615 00:34:46,286 --> 00:34:48,154 All of these things were impossible. 616 00:34:48,254 --> 00:34:49,534 If those things were impossible, 617 00:34:49,622 --> 00:34:52,392 then this man murdered Laci Peterson. 618 00:34:52,492 --> 00:34:54,627 They just didn't have anything of substance. 619 00:34:54,728 --> 00:34:57,630 So we felt very good and very confident. 620 00:34:57,731 --> 00:35:00,233 If the court wants to talk about prejudicial publicity, 621 00:35:00,333 --> 00:35:04,137 having poster-sized pictures of him labeled as a monster 622 00:35:04,237 --> 00:35:06,339 in chains, I don't think is... 623 00:35:06,439 --> 00:35:09,442 is somehow conducive to getting a fair trial. 624 00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:11,382 My first impression was that the Geragos team 625 00:35:11,478 --> 00:35:12,846 was very professional 626 00:35:12,946 --> 00:35:15,115 and were prepared for this. 627 00:35:15,215 --> 00:35:16,449 Mark Geragos comes out 628 00:35:16,549 --> 00:35:18,018 in his opening statement and says, 629 00:35:18,118 --> 00:35:19,452 "Yes, he's a cheater. 630 00:35:19,552 --> 00:35:22,155 Yes, he's a 14-carat A-hole, 631 00:35:22,255 --> 00:35:23,356 but he's not a killer." 632 00:35:23,456 --> 00:35:25,125 Now, on the prosecuting attorney side, 633 00:35:25,225 --> 00:35:26,393 I didn't feel that way. 634 00:35:26,493 --> 00:35:28,428 I thought that they were bumbling it. 635 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:34,777 Scott Peterson's tone and demeanor 636 00:35:34,801 --> 00:35:37,604 following Laci's disappearance are being called into question. 637 00:35:37,704 --> 00:35:40,340 This after prosecutors played a taped police interview 638 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,875 with him describing what he did 639 00:35:41,975 --> 00:35:43,476 the day Laci disappeared. 640 00:35:43,576 --> 00:35:46,579 Day one, there was a mistake made. 641 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,450 Scott says that the morning of Laci's disappearance... 642 00:35:55,522 --> 00:35:58,158 The prosecution claims that Martha Stewart 643 00:35:58,258 --> 00:36:00,694 wasn't talking about meringue that morning, 644 00:36:00,794 --> 00:36:04,798 that they say this is evidence he was lying. 645 00:36:04,898 --> 00:36:06,499 Geragos brings it in. 646 00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,302 He says, "Let's roll the tape," and you see it. 647 00:36:09,402 --> 00:36:11,371 Ooh, you want to make little meringues? 648 00:36:11,471 --> 00:36:13,473 Oh, that would be nice. 649 00:36:13,573 --> 00:36:15,475 The prosecution got it wrong. 650 00:36:15,575 --> 00:36:17,644 And this happens at the jump of the trial. 651 00:36:17,744 --> 00:36:21,681 - Did you check these windows? - Yeah. 652 00:36:21,781 --> 00:36:23,583 You don't commit a violent crime 653 00:36:23,683 --> 00:36:25,151 without getting your hands dirty. 654 00:36:25,251 --> 00:36:26,720 The police executed 655 00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:29,122 more than 10 search warrants on the home 656 00:36:29,222 --> 00:36:30,490 and his place of business. 657 00:36:30,590 --> 00:36:32,301 Officers began a search of the couple's home 658 00:36:32,325 --> 00:36:33,760 late last night. 659 00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:37,430 After they found pretty much zero physical evidence 660 00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:39,250 in the house or in the truck or in the boat, 661 00:36:39,299 --> 00:36:43,837 the theory had to become that this was a soft kill. 662 00:36:43,937 --> 00:36:49,275 A soft kill is a murder that doesn't involve a weapon, 663 00:36:49,376 --> 00:36:51,544 that doesn't leave behind essentially 664 00:36:51,644 --> 00:36:53,580 obvious forensic evidence. 665 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,716 The coroner has yet to determine the cause of death. 666 00:36:56,816 --> 00:37:00,120 Unless there is a pretty good cause of death in the torso, 667 00:37:00,220 --> 00:37:01,321 they're stuck. 668 00:37:01,421 --> 00:37:03,089 How was this person killed? 669 00:37:03,189 --> 00:37:04,724 We don't know. 670 00:37:04,824 --> 00:37:07,560 And throughout the trial, we never found out. 671 00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:12,165 Even a soft kill leaves behind some sort of trail. 672 00:37:12,265 --> 00:37:13,633 If he kills her 673 00:37:13,733 --> 00:37:16,469 and is dragging her around to his workshop 674 00:37:16,569 --> 00:37:19,205 and then to the San Francisco Bay, 675 00:37:19,305 --> 00:37:20,507 how did he pull that off? 676 00:37:20,607 --> 00:37:23,643 It's what you say when you have absolutely no evidence 677 00:37:23,743 --> 00:37:25,703 that there was a crime that occurred in this home. 678 00:37:25,779 --> 00:37:29,549 But if they were being fair about it, 679 00:37:29,649 --> 00:37:31,518 they'd also have to acknowledge, "By the way, 680 00:37:31,618 --> 00:37:33,386 "given the state and condition of the bodies 681 00:37:33,486 --> 00:37:35,522 "when we finally found them, there's no evidence 682 00:37:35,622 --> 00:37:37,257 that it was a soft kill." 683 00:37:38,858 --> 00:37:41,528 Tonight, day nine of Scott Peterson's murder trial, 684 00:37:41,628 --> 00:37:43,263 and his attorney, Mark Geragos, 685 00:37:43,363 --> 00:37:45,098 grills police on the stand. 686 00:37:45,198 --> 00:37:47,701 Detective Al Brocchini was the first investigator 687 00:37:47,801 --> 00:37:51,271 on the scene the day Laci Peterson was reported missing. 688 00:37:51,371 --> 00:37:53,173 He was pretty hard on me. 689 00:37:53,273 --> 00:37:54,174 You know, Geragos was. 690 00:37:54,274 --> 00:37:56,676 I was the bad guy. 691 00:37:56,776 --> 00:38:01,381 Every mistake I made, he turned it into a whole day 692 00:38:01,481 --> 00:38:02,816 of talking about it. 693 00:38:02,916 --> 00:38:04,884 Detective Brocchini was a little forgetful 694 00:38:04,984 --> 00:38:05,785 from time to time. 695 00:38:05,885 --> 00:38:08,388 In cross-examination, the defense already 696 00:38:08,488 --> 00:38:10,657 questioning his motives. 697 00:38:10,757 --> 00:38:13,793 I testified that nobody knew Scott had a boat. 698 00:38:28,808 --> 00:38:32,846 He says Laci knew he had a boat, but we can't ask her. 699 00:38:32,946 --> 00:38:36,282 Brocchini felt like it will strengthen his case 700 00:38:36,383 --> 00:38:37,543 if he makes it look like Laci 701 00:38:37,617 --> 00:38:38,485 didn't even know about the boat. 702 00:38:38,585 --> 00:38:39,619 She didn't even know. 703 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,188 That hugely backfired on him. 704 00:38:42,288 --> 00:38:46,626 Geragos scored the most points when Brocchini took the stand 705 00:38:46,726 --> 00:38:51,431 because Brocchini had redacted a piece of his report. 706 00:38:51,531 --> 00:38:53,366 We interviewed everybody in all those shops 707 00:38:53,466 --> 00:38:54,968 near the warehouse, 708 00:38:55,068 --> 00:38:57,604 and I interviewed a man 709 00:38:57,704 --> 00:39:01,374 that said Laci used the bathroom of a lady 710 00:39:01,474 --> 00:39:03,309 that owned a shop on the 23rd, 711 00:39:03,410 --> 00:39:05,879 the day before Laci was actually missing. 712 00:39:05,979 --> 00:39:10,717 So when I got my report back, I deleted that line. 713 00:39:10,817 --> 00:39:12,619 Geragos, he's like, "What happened? 714 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,355 Who took that line out of your police report?" 715 00:39:15,455 --> 00:39:16,823 And I said, "I did." 716 00:39:16,923 --> 00:39:18,224 Ah. 717 00:39:18,324 --> 00:39:19,626 That's a big moment. 718 00:39:19,726 --> 00:39:23,263 I... I eliminated some exculpatory evidence 719 00:39:23,363 --> 00:39:24,998 from my police report. 720 00:39:25,098 --> 00:39:26,499 I can't reply. 721 00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,401 I can't say, "Well, it's in Holmes's report. 722 00:39:28,501 --> 00:39:29,703 He's got it all in there." 723 00:39:29,803 --> 00:39:32,305 All it takes, one juror to say, 724 00:39:32,405 --> 00:39:33,973 "I don't believe that detective. 725 00:39:34,074 --> 00:39:37,577 He had an agenda." 726 00:39:37,677 --> 00:39:39,546 Legal analysts say they've heard nothing yet 727 00:39:39,646 --> 00:39:42,916 that they think would convince a jury to convict Peterson. 728 00:39:43,016 --> 00:39:44,927 We believed that there was no way they were gonna 729 00:39:44,951 --> 00:39:46,262 be able to show this case, prove it, 730 00:39:46,286 --> 00:39:49,456 because the jury is gonna see that this was nonsensical. 731 00:39:49,556 --> 00:39:50,824 It made no sense. 732 00:39:50,924 --> 00:39:52,926 It felt to me like the Modesto Police Department 733 00:39:53,026 --> 00:39:54,928 had basically put their sights on Scott Peterson 734 00:39:55,028 --> 00:39:58,698 and that they put all their eggs in one basket. 735 00:39:58,798 --> 00:40:03,670 Geragos was able to just seed 736 00:40:03,770 --> 00:40:05,572 each one of these state witnesses 737 00:40:05,672 --> 00:40:07,674 with reasonable doubt. 738 00:40:07,774 --> 00:40:10,076 The analytical research studying micro-expressions 739 00:40:10,176 --> 00:40:11,644 of people's faces. 740 00:40:11,745 --> 00:40:14,647 It was unbelievable 741 00:40:14,748 --> 00:40:18,051 how Mark Geragos took over that courtroom. 742 00:40:18,151 --> 00:40:19,853 The defense was winning. 743 00:40:19,953 --> 00:40:22,255 We've set the bar extremely high. 744 00:40:22,355 --> 00:40:25,492 And that's to prove that Scott is not only factually innocent, 745 00:40:25,592 --> 00:40:27,694 but to figure out exactly who it is 746 00:40:27,794 --> 00:40:29,562 did this horrible thing to Scott's wife 747 00:40:29,662 --> 00:40:31,965 and to Scott's son. 748 00:40:32,065 --> 00:40:34,668 By its nature, a defense attorney's job 749 00:40:34,768 --> 00:40:36,636 is not to prove anything. 750 00:40:36,736 --> 00:40:39,439 It's simply to demonstrate that this package 751 00:40:39,539 --> 00:40:41,608 with the bow on top 752 00:40:41,708 --> 00:40:43,510 that the state is trying to create for you, 753 00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:45,445 it... it... it doesn't exist. 754 00:40:45,545 --> 00:40:47,914 It's not real. 755 00:40:48,014 --> 00:40:50,817 But Mark Geragos's statements said, 756 00:40:50,917 --> 00:40:53,453 "We're not just going to plant reasonable doubt. 757 00:40:53,553 --> 00:40:55,555 "We're going to prove that Scott Peterson 758 00:40:55,655 --> 00:40:57,357 is stone-cold innocent." 759 00:40:57,457 --> 00:40:58,725 Those were the words. 760 00:40:58,825 --> 00:40:59,902 The actual perpetrator is still out there. 761 00:40:59,926 --> 00:41:01,628 We plan on finding that person. 762 00:41:01,728 --> 00:41:03,096 Experts say, normally, 763 00:41:03,196 --> 00:41:05,899 a defense attorney wouldn't make promises to a jury, 764 00:41:05,999 --> 00:41:08,635 but defense attorney Mark Geragos made several. 765 00:41:08,735 --> 00:41:09,912 That's what sticks with the jury. 766 00:41:09,936 --> 00:41:12,172 But the problem is, he overpromised 767 00:41:12,272 --> 00:41:14,007 and under-delivered. 768 00:41:20,847 --> 00:41:23,316 Mark Geragos is great on cross-examination, 769 00:41:23,416 --> 00:41:27,053 and he's tripping the police up in a lot of little details. 770 00:41:27,153 --> 00:41:30,557 The reality is that those little details 771 00:41:30,657 --> 00:41:33,093 may not add up to a not guilty verdict. 772 00:41:33,193 --> 00:41:38,064 If you had a graph in terms of the strength of the defense 773 00:41:38,164 --> 00:41:41,501 and the persuasiveness of the cross-examination, 774 00:41:41,601 --> 00:41:44,504 it wanes over time. 775 00:41:44,604 --> 00:41:46,873 Tonight, Scott Peterson's former lover, 776 00:41:46,973 --> 00:41:48,875 Amber Frey, finally takes the stand 777 00:41:48,975 --> 00:41:50,744 at his double-murder trial. 778 00:41:50,844 --> 00:41:52,612 There was a major shift in this case 779 00:41:52,712 --> 00:41:54,114 when Amber Frey appeared. 780 00:41:54,214 --> 00:41:56,916 Jurors heard Amber Frey accuse Scott Peterson 781 00:41:57,017 --> 00:41:59,552 of planning the murder of his pregnant wife. 782 00:41:59,652 --> 00:42:01,121 It wasn't what she testified to. 783 00:42:01,221 --> 00:42:03,723 It was that through her testimony and in her testimony, 784 00:42:03,823 --> 00:42:05,158 we heard all of those tapes. 785 00:42:15,935 --> 00:42:19,839 The prosecution did something I'd never seen before or since. 786 00:42:19,939 --> 00:42:22,609 They had printed out the transcripts 787 00:42:22,709 --> 00:42:23,753 of every single phone call. 788 00:42:23,777 --> 00:42:27,247 It was so compelling 789 00:42:27,347 --> 00:42:28,682 not to just hear it, 790 00:42:28,782 --> 00:42:30,550 but to be able to make notes on it. 791 00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:32,652 And you could see the jurors making notes. 792 00:42:32,752 --> 00:42:35,555 You know, here's where he said, "I lost my wife." 793 00:42:35,655 --> 00:42:37,190 Here's the date. Here's this call. 794 00:42:37,290 --> 00:42:38,725 Here's this call. 795 00:42:38,825 --> 00:42:41,861 The Amber tapes were clearly 796 00:42:41,961 --> 00:42:44,931 one of the worst pieces of evidence in the case. 797 00:42:45,031 --> 00:42:49,936 It showed a side of him that was comfortably lying. 798 00:42:50,036 --> 00:42:52,005 If you could have heard this testimony today, 799 00:42:52,105 --> 00:42:57,110 the credibility of Scott Peterson is now on the line. 800 00:42:57,210 --> 00:42:59,946 The defense made a decision not to bring up 801 00:43:00,046 --> 00:43:02,716 any of these dog-walking eyewitnesses 802 00:43:02,816 --> 00:43:04,684 that thought they saw Laci. 803 00:43:04,784 --> 00:43:06,686 The prosecution and law enforcement 804 00:43:06,786 --> 00:43:08,922 had done a beautiful job 805 00:43:09,022 --> 00:43:11,691 of trying to discredit these people. 806 00:43:11,791 --> 00:43:14,527 They made these people think that what they were saying 807 00:43:14,627 --> 00:43:15,962 was not accurate. 808 00:43:16,062 --> 00:43:17,831 Some of them thought, "Are we going crazy? 809 00:43:17,931 --> 00:43:19,933 Is it possible that it wasn't her?" 810 00:43:20,033 --> 00:43:21,277 And guess what happens to that witness? 811 00:43:21,301 --> 00:43:24,037 That becomes a weak witness for the defense. 812 00:43:24,137 --> 00:43:27,841 Had anybody put witnesses on the stand that would support 813 00:43:27,941 --> 00:43:31,878 the claim that Laci was walking the dog, 814 00:43:31,978 --> 00:43:34,047 that would have made a lot of difference. 815 00:43:34,147 --> 00:43:36,950 If somebody actually really saw Laci, 816 00:43:37,050 --> 00:43:39,119 then, yes, that would be important. 817 00:43:39,219 --> 00:43:40,020 Didn't happen. 818 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,922 And... and I think that people second guessed 819 00:43:43,023 --> 00:43:45,725 Mark Geragos specifically for that decision. 820 00:43:48,094 --> 00:43:50,997 The judge believed that the burglary and Laci's 821 00:43:51,097 --> 00:43:52,937 disappearance were unrelated and wouldn't allow 822 00:43:52,966 --> 00:43:55,035 any evidence in the trial. 823 00:43:55,135 --> 00:43:57,070 Everyone discounted the burglary 824 00:43:57,170 --> 00:43:58,905 because they believed that it happened 825 00:43:59,005 --> 00:44:01,074 after Laci's disappearance. 826 00:44:01,174 --> 00:44:04,511 It meant the jury didn't hear evidence about the burglary. 827 00:44:04,611 --> 00:44:07,180 Without the Medina burglary being admitted into evidence, 828 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,684 there's no other alternate theory that can explain 829 00:44:10,784 --> 00:44:12,986 Laci Peterson's disappearance. 830 00:44:13,086 --> 00:44:15,789 Part of the problem was they wanted to get the trial over 831 00:44:15,889 --> 00:44:18,692 as soon as possible so he would be exonerated 832 00:44:18,792 --> 00:44:20,226 and continue with his life. 833 00:44:20,326 --> 00:44:23,229 And I think that was a mistake because I really don't think 834 00:44:23,329 --> 00:44:27,701 the defense had enough time to really understand the case 835 00:44:27,801 --> 00:44:29,102 to defend it properly. 836 00:44:33,173 --> 00:44:35,709 And, gosh, I look back on that now, 837 00:44:35,809 --> 00:44:37,644 and I wonder if that was the right decision. 838 00:44:37,744 --> 00:44:40,714 We had the evidence of my innocence. 839 00:44:40,814 --> 00:44:44,117 It was a nightmare being stuck in county jail. 840 00:44:56,162 --> 00:44:58,765 And I kind of wonder, gosh, if I... 841 00:44:58,865 --> 00:45:04,037 If I had been more prudent or patient or whatever, 842 00:45:04,137 --> 00:45:07,140 maybe things would've been different. 843 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:10,977 The Scott Peterson murder trial may go to the jury today. 844 00:45:11,077 --> 00:45:13,146 This man murdered Laci Peterson. 845 00:45:13,246 --> 00:45:15,882 The prosecutor, in his closing argument, 846 00:45:15,982 --> 00:45:19,252 says, look at this as a jigsaw puzzle. 847 00:45:19,352 --> 00:45:22,222 You need to put the pieces of the puzzle together. 848 00:45:22,322 --> 00:45:24,858 Is it a coincidence that Scott Peterson 849 00:45:24,958 --> 00:45:26,960 was looking at tide charts? 850 00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:29,996 Is it a coincidence that Scott Peterson 851 00:45:30,096 --> 00:45:32,065 told Amber Frey he lost his wife 852 00:45:32,165 --> 00:45:34,134 the same month that she died? 853 00:45:34,234 --> 00:45:36,870 Is it a coincidence that there was cement found, 854 00:45:36,970 --> 00:45:39,773 anchor circles in his warehouse? 855 00:45:39,873 --> 00:45:43,376 All these things add up to murder. 856 00:45:43,476 --> 00:45:47,914 The prosecution came with this very deliberate argument 857 00:45:48,014 --> 00:45:50,083 that it's open and shut. 858 00:45:50,183 --> 00:45:54,187 This is a man who was staring down the barrel 859 00:45:54,287 --> 00:45:58,024 of domesticity with his wife and this child on the way, 860 00:45:58,124 --> 00:46:00,360 that he wanted nothing to do with any of that. 861 00:46:00,460 --> 00:46:04,597 The facts are borne out in the extramarital relationship 862 00:46:04,698 --> 00:46:07,600 he's having and the things that he is saying to his mistress. 863 00:46:07,701 --> 00:46:10,670 In his closing argument, defense attorney Mark Geragos 864 00:46:10,770 --> 00:46:14,341 told jurors that prosecutors wanted them to hate Peterson, 865 00:46:14,441 --> 00:46:18,144 but that was not reason enough to convict him. 866 00:46:18,244 --> 00:46:21,681 It's hard to be critical, but I was uncomfortable 867 00:46:21,781 --> 00:46:24,184 when the defense rested. 868 00:46:25,418 --> 00:46:28,154 You must not be biased against the defendant 869 00:46:28,254 --> 00:46:30,357 because he has been arrested for this offense, 870 00:46:30,457 --> 00:46:33,026 charged with a crime, or brought to trial. 871 00:46:33,126 --> 00:46:36,096 After being instructed by the judge for nearly an hour, 872 00:46:36,196 --> 00:46:38,798 the six men and six women of the jury 873 00:46:38,898 --> 00:46:41,634 will now decide Scott Peterson's fate. 874 00:46:41,735 --> 00:46:45,005 We went through things that were key points to each person. 875 00:46:45,105 --> 00:46:47,173 We did take polls to find out 876 00:46:47,273 --> 00:46:49,843 what people were concerned about 877 00:46:49,943 --> 00:46:53,146 and what we needed answers to. 878 00:46:53,246 --> 00:46:55,115 Are we ready to make a decision, 879 00:46:55,215 --> 00:46:58,151 or are there other things that need to be answered? 880 00:46:58,251 --> 00:47:01,321 What questions do we have? 881 00:47:01,421 --> 00:47:04,257 That's why our deliberation took the time it did 882 00:47:04,357 --> 00:47:06,059 because everybody had questions 883 00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:08,928 and different opinions of things. 884 00:47:09,029 --> 00:47:11,931 I was counting on a jury that would come back 885 00:47:12,032 --> 00:47:13,433 with an acquittal 886 00:47:13,533 --> 00:47:15,802 because I thought, there's no evidence here. 887 00:47:15,902 --> 00:47:17,046 There's no forensic evidence. 888 00:47:17,070 --> 00:47:19,172 There's nothing to tie him to the murder. 889 00:47:19,272 --> 00:47:21,941 Everything in this case you can look at 890 00:47:22,042 --> 00:47:23,810 from a different lens. 891 00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:25,945 Take one piece of evidence and look at it 892 00:47:26,046 --> 00:47:27,213 from the state's side. 893 00:47:27,313 --> 00:47:30,250 And then you take that exact same fact 894 00:47:30,350 --> 00:47:33,219 and look at it from Scott Peterson's side. 895 00:47:33,319 --> 00:47:35,355 And you can make an argument 896 00:47:35,455 --> 00:47:39,693 of those components of this case. 897 00:47:39,793 --> 00:47:42,796 116 people waited to get the chance at witnessing 898 00:47:42,896 --> 00:47:44,230 the verdict being read. 899 00:47:44,330 --> 00:47:46,800 The decision coming after more than 40 hours 900 00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:48,401 of deliberations. 901 00:47:48,501 --> 00:47:50,403 Across the country, millions of Americans 902 00:47:50,503 --> 00:47:53,440 familiar with the faces of this unfolding drama 903 00:47:53,540 --> 00:47:55,775 could only listen to its final moments. 904 00:47:58,244 --> 00:48:00,480 We walked back into the courtroom. 905 00:48:03,450 --> 00:48:05,552 I just remember I was really, really... 906 00:48:05,652 --> 00:48:06,786 I was perspiring. 907 00:48:06,886 --> 00:48:07,921 I mean, I was... 908 00:48:08,021 --> 00:48:09,356 I could feel my heart pounding. 909 00:48:09,456 --> 00:48:13,193 One of the toughest moments for any lawyer 910 00:48:13,293 --> 00:48:15,895 is the moment right before 911 00:48:15,995 --> 00:48:18,765 the jury foreman 912 00:48:18,865 --> 00:48:21,034 reads the verdict. 913 00:48:21,134 --> 00:48:23,937 It almost feels like your heart is gonna stop. 914 00:48:25,171 --> 00:48:27,340 A crowd outside the Redwood City Courthouse 915 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,442 waited in tense silence for the verdict. 916 00:48:29,542 --> 00:48:31,811 We find the defendant, Scott Lee Peterson, 917 00:48:31,911 --> 00:48:33,111 guilty of the crime of murder. 918 00:48:36,282 --> 00:48:38,051 There were cheers, too, in Modesto, 919 00:48:38,151 --> 00:48:39,819 Laci Peterson's hometown. 920 00:48:41,521 --> 00:48:43,923 Inside the courtroom, even the judge 921 00:48:44,024 --> 00:48:45,225 seemed to choke with emotion. 922 00:48:45,325 --> 00:48:47,293 Laci Peterson's family sobbed. 923 00:48:47,394 --> 00:48:51,765 But Scott Peterson showed no obvious reaction. 924 00:48:51,865 --> 00:48:55,435 I looked at my dad, and he had a shocked look on his face. 925 00:48:55,535 --> 00:48:56,536 I had a shocked look. 926 00:48:56,636 --> 00:48:57,637 I couldn't even cry. 927 00:48:57,737 --> 00:48:59,172 I was just, like, stunned. 928 00:48:59,272 --> 00:49:01,975 A lot of people are not fooled by... 929 00:49:02,075 --> 00:49:04,844 by what went on here. 930 00:49:04,944 --> 00:49:07,047 This is just a travesty. 931 00:49:07,147 --> 00:49:08,391 When the clerk read the verdict, 932 00:49:08,415 --> 00:49:11,184 I just remember thinking that... 933 00:49:11,284 --> 00:49:13,486 that I'd just missed the word "not." 934 00:49:13,586 --> 00:49:16,322 She must have just said "not guilty." 935 00:49:16,423 --> 00:49:18,058 I missed it. 936 00:49:18,158 --> 00:49:21,094 And you could hear a crowd 937 00:49:21,194 --> 00:49:24,898 outside the courthouse erupt. 938 00:49:24,998 --> 00:49:26,866 Oh, we got him. That's it. 939 00:49:26,966 --> 00:49:28,501 I'm happy. Thank God! 940 00:49:28,601 --> 00:49:29,336 Thank God! 941 00:49:29,436 --> 00:49:31,004 I don't know how else to describe it 942 00:49:31,104 --> 00:49:33,206 other than absolute shock. 943 00:49:33,306 --> 00:49:35,141 Our family's going to make it. 944 00:49:35,241 --> 00:49:39,112 We're stronger because of this. 945 00:49:39,212 --> 00:49:40,613 And Scott got what he deserved. 946 00:49:45,185 --> 00:49:48,655 I don't think that Amber Frey was... was the issue. 947 00:49:48,755 --> 00:49:50,123 I think that this... 948 00:49:50,223 --> 00:49:51,891 this had been planned before Amber Frey 949 00:49:51,991 --> 00:49:53,360 even got in the picture. 950 00:49:53,460 --> 00:49:55,895 I've had people after the trial come up to me and say, 951 00:49:55,995 --> 00:49:57,063 "Was he really guilty?" 952 00:49:57,163 --> 00:49:58,465 And I go, are you serious? 953 00:49:58,565 --> 00:50:01,134 I would find somebody that was innocent guilty? 954 00:50:01,234 --> 00:50:02,402 I would never do that. 955 00:50:02,502 --> 00:50:04,337 We just said a man was guilty of killing 956 00:50:04,437 --> 00:50:05,972 his wife and unborn child. 957 00:50:06,072 --> 00:50:07,240 That's a terrible thing. 958 00:50:07,340 --> 00:50:08,875 What's there to cheer about? 959 00:50:08,975 --> 00:50:12,512 Nobody on that jury wanted to find Scott Peterson guilty 960 00:50:12,612 --> 00:50:14,314 just for the sake of finding him guilty 961 00:50:14,414 --> 00:50:16,016 or because of public opinion. 962 00:50:16,116 --> 00:50:18,318 My decision 963 00:50:18,418 --> 00:50:21,121 was nothing more than what I found 964 00:50:21,221 --> 00:50:24,024 based on evidence and testimony. 965 00:50:24,124 --> 00:50:27,093 Seeing what we saw, I'm a mother of four. 966 00:50:27,193 --> 00:50:29,262 Goddamn, that was his son. 967 00:50:29,362 --> 00:50:31,197 He'll never come clean. 968 00:50:31,297 --> 00:50:32,832 He'll never admit it. 969 00:50:32,932 --> 00:50:36,002 He'll go to his grave with it, and then he'll go to hell, 970 00:50:36,102 --> 00:50:37,537 straight to hell and rot. 971 00:51:19,245 --> 00:51:20,485 Peterson has been found guilty 972 00:51:20,513 --> 00:51:22,649 of first and second-degree murder. 973 00:51:22,749 --> 00:51:26,753 Now, Scott Peterson is eligible for the death penalty. 974 00:51:29,356 --> 00:51:31,558 The jury finds him guilty. 975 00:51:31,658 --> 00:51:34,294 And then the question is, what's the penalty? 976 00:51:34,394 --> 00:51:35,528 Do you get life in prison? 977 00:51:35,628 --> 00:51:38,398 Do you get the death penalty? 978 00:51:38,498 --> 00:51:42,135 We're gonna have to ask this jury, 979 00:51:42,235 --> 00:51:46,006 who thinks that he murdered his wife and unborn son, 980 00:51:46,106 --> 00:51:47,741 to not take his life. 981 00:51:55,548 --> 00:51:57,350 Hi, everyone. First up on the docket, 982 00:51:57,450 --> 00:51:59,610 while you were eating your Thanksgiving turkey at home, 983 00:51:59,686 --> 00:52:02,522 Scott Peterson was eating his behind bars, 984 00:52:02,622 --> 00:52:05,325 waiting for the penalty phase of his trial to begin. 985 00:52:05,425 --> 00:52:07,927 Witnesses reminded the jury the emotional toll 986 00:52:08,028 --> 00:52:10,597 a death verdict would have on Scott's parents. 987 00:52:10,697 --> 00:52:13,166 The defense is hoping for an ounce of sympathy 988 00:52:13,266 --> 00:52:15,335 peppered with lingering doubt. 989 00:52:15,435 --> 00:52:17,570 This afternoon, customers gathered at the bar 990 00:52:17,671 --> 00:52:20,707 to watch the jury's penalty decision on TV. 991 00:52:26,613 --> 00:52:29,549 After calling him cruel, uncaring, and heartless, 992 00:52:29,649 --> 00:52:31,618 the judge in Scott Peterson's murder trial 993 00:52:31,718 --> 00:52:33,586 sentenced him to death for killing his wife, 994 00:52:33,687 --> 00:52:36,723 Laci, and their unborn child. 995 00:52:57,610 --> 00:53:00,547 This is a box of letters and cards 996 00:53:00,647 --> 00:53:05,418 that was sent to our family, mostly from 2003 to 2004. 997 00:53:05,518 --> 00:53:07,420 "You must be in so much pain seeing 998 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,589 "your child going through this. 999 00:53:09,689 --> 00:53:12,292 "Your grief has to be beyond words. 1000 00:53:12,392 --> 00:53:15,462 "You have lost a daughter-in-law and a grandson. 1001 00:53:15,562 --> 00:53:18,298 "And your son is facing challenges 1002 00:53:18,398 --> 00:53:20,900 "like he has never known. 1003 00:53:21,501 --> 00:53:26,740 "I cannot even comprehend the pain you have to bear. 1004 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,542 "Hold on to each other with all that you have. 1005 00:53:29,642 --> 00:53:31,845 Your strength will pull you through." 1006 00:53:39,219 --> 00:53:40,487 "Dear Lee and Jackie, 1007 00:53:40,587 --> 00:53:43,289 "I realize that this case did not involve 1008 00:53:43,390 --> 00:53:45,425 "just one family but two. 1009 00:53:45,525 --> 00:53:48,361 "I'm the mother of a seven-year-old boy, 1010 00:53:48,461 --> 00:53:50,697 "and if I were in your situation, 1011 00:53:50,797 --> 00:53:54,968 I would have stood by my son, as you did yours." 1012 00:53:55,068 --> 00:53:56,536 Getting letters like this really, 1013 00:53:56,636 --> 00:53:59,205 really did make the difference 1014 00:53:59,305 --> 00:54:01,775 and make us feel like we weren't alone. 1015 00:54:01,875 --> 00:54:05,345 We... we thought the whole world thought Scott was guilty, 1016 00:54:05,445 --> 00:54:08,648 but even to fill up 1017 00:54:08,748 --> 00:54:11,885 just a few boxes of letters at that time 1018 00:54:11,985 --> 00:54:13,620 really made a big difference. 1019 00:54:15,488 --> 00:54:18,091 "Tonight, my heart is filled with deep sadness. 1020 00:54:18,191 --> 00:54:21,528 "After watching so long to see Scott go home with his family, 1021 00:54:21,628 --> 00:54:23,563 "your son did not get a fair trial, 1022 00:54:23,663 --> 00:54:26,633 and there is no city in the USA where he could." 1023 00:54:32,872 --> 00:54:35,742 Not long after his conviction, 1024 00:54:35,842 --> 00:54:38,411 as the dust settled, 1025 00:54:38,511 --> 00:54:40,580 everyone started to realize, 1026 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,117 this doesn't feel like this is right. 1027 00:54:44,217 --> 00:54:47,287 This doesn't feel like it was a powerful, compelling case. 1028 00:54:49,923 --> 00:54:51,691 There have always been a lot of questions 1029 00:54:51,791 --> 00:54:55,662 about how, when, where, and why. 1030 00:54:55,762 --> 00:54:58,832 They were never answered in the trial itself. 1031 00:54:58,932 --> 00:55:03,303 We depend upon the police to turn over every stone 1032 00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:04,604 and to examine every clue. 1033 00:55:04,704 --> 00:55:06,806 If they don't do that, 1034 00:55:06,906 --> 00:55:09,476 if they disregard every piece of evidence 1035 00:55:09,576 --> 00:55:10,753 that doesn't fit their theory, 1036 00:55:10,777 --> 00:55:12,946 then their conclusions are gonna be tainted 1037 00:55:13,046 --> 00:55:14,046 and likely wrong. 1038 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,617 The Modesto Police Department were absolutely 1039 00:55:17,717 --> 00:55:19,552 laser-focused on Scott 1040 00:55:19,652 --> 00:55:21,554 because they thought he did it. 1041 00:55:21,654 --> 00:55:23,790 There are a slew of eyewitnesses 1042 00:55:23,890 --> 00:55:26,960 who saw Laci Peterson walking her dog 1043 00:55:27,060 --> 00:55:28,928 in and around the neighborhood. 1044 00:55:29,029 --> 00:55:32,298 There's probably 12 to 13 people that never had 1045 00:55:32,399 --> 00:55:33,943 a face-to-face interview with a detective 1046 00:55:33,967 --> 00:55:35,702 while Laci was missing. 1047 00:55:35,802 --> 00:55:38,571 I have forever been bothered by the fact 1048 00:55:38,672 --> 00:55:41,408 that the jury didn't hear about those witnesses. 1049 00:55:41,508 --> 00:55:43,376 I've always believed that the burglary 1050 00:55:43,476 --> 00:55:44,778 had something to do with it. 1051 00:55:44,878 --> 00:55:47,514 I think the police decided very early on 1052 00:55:47,614 --> 00:55:49,916 that Scott was guilty. 1053 00:55:50,016 --> 00:55:53,453 And I think because of it, they didn't effectively investigate 1054 00:55:53,553 --> 00:55:54,754 the Medina burglary. 1055 00:55:54,854 --> 00:55:56,890 The prosecution position was at the time 1056 00:55:56,990 --> 00:55:59,292 that the burglary didn't even happen on the day 1057 00:55:59,392 --> 00:56:00,593 of Laci's disappearance. 1058 00:56:00,694 --> 00:56:03,129 If that burglary happened 1059 00:56:03,229 --> 00:56:05,665 when Laci was around and still alive, 1060 00:56:05,765 --> 00:56:09,369 it could not have been a coincidence. 1061 00:56:09,469 --> 00:56:11,705 I don't think the police looked 1062 00:56:11,805 --> 00:56:15,675 at the burglary enough to understand the tie-ins 1063 00:56:15,775 --> 00:56:17,911 to Laci's disappearance. 1064 00:56:18,011 --> 00:56:19,371 There's so much reasonable doubt, 1065 00:56:19,446 --> 00:56:20,880 we're still talking about it now. 1066 00:56:20,980 --> 00:56:23,883 There are so many instances where there is evidence 1067 00:56:23,983 --> 00:56:26,853 that didn't fit the detective's theory. 1068 00:56:26,953 --> 00:56:29,923 They just assumed she was dead. 1069 00:56:30,023 --> 00:56:32,659 Well, what if they talked to these people, 1070 00:56:32,759 --> 00:56:33,903 and they found out where she was 1071 00:56:33,927 --> 00:56:35,628 and they learned information from them 1072 00:56:35,729 --> 00:56:37,897 which could have brought her home? 1073 00:56:41,368 --> 00:56:44,571 Here we are 20 years later trying to piece this together. 1074 00:56:44,671 --> 00:56:47,707 I don't know that we ever felt like we could look up and... 1075 00:56:47,807 --> 00:56:50,944 and see that light at the end of the tunnel. 1076 00:56:51,044 --> 00:56:53,446 But to have the Los Angeles Innocence Project 1077 00:56:53,546 --> 00:56:54,746 come on board and file motions 1078 00:56:54,781 --> 00:56:56,883 that are being actively litigated, 1079 00:56:56,983 --> 00:56:58,651 I think it gives us great hope. 1080 00:56:58,752 --> 00:57:01,988 You know, the Los Angeles Innocence Project believes 1081 00:57:02,088 --> 00:57:03,823 that there is a case here. 1082 00:57:03,923 --> 00:57:06,326 This isn't about one side winning or losing. 1083 00:57:06,426 --> 00:57:07,327 This is about justice. 1084 00:57:07,427 --> 00:57:08,995 This is about the fairness of a trial. 1085 00:57:09,095 --> 00:57:13,767 An innocent man has been in jail for 20 years now. 1086 00:57:13,867 --> 00:57:17,470 And where is the justice in that? 1087 00:57:17,570 --> 00:57:18,938 Somebody has to fight for him. 1088 00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:21,274 People have fought for him for years. 1089 00:57:21,374 --> 00:57:24,911 And now we've got a new group fighting for him. 78868

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