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Hey, Shareen.
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Hi, Scott. How are you?
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I should tell you
this in advance.
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I'm looking at the
clock here. It's 1:18.
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It's supposed to
be a 1:30 lockup,
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so we may only get 12 minutes.
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OK.
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I'm not sure what they'll do.
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I have a few questions
for you today.
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After the world basically
heard your phone calls
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with Amber Frey,
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they came to the conclusion
that you killed Laci.
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How does that make you feel?
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Why didn't you tell
the police right away
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about Amber Frey?
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Police in Modesto,
California, continue searching
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for 27-year-old Laci Peterson.
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As the investigation
into the disappearance
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of Laci Peterson continues,
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police are tracking
her husband's movements
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outside the Modesto,
California, area.
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Even as the focus of the search
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appears to be shifting
towards Scott,
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Modesto Police have still
not named him as a suspect.
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I'm Mike Gudgell.
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I've been involved
in the Peterson case
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for almost two decades now.
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In 2002, I was
working for ABC News
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as an editorial producer.
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When I first arrived, a couple
of days after Christmas Day,
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it was quite a crowd of media
surrounding the house...
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police checkpoints,
satellite trucks.
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It was what I call a complete
media feeding frenzy.
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By then, we really hadn't
established sources
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with the police,
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but we were hearing they
were focused on Scott.
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We heard that the Petersons
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had hired a private
investigator.
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We understood he was
talking to witnesses
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who saw Laci alive
after Scott left.
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That might be
different than what
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we're hearing from the police.
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A beautiful young
lady, very pregnant.
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Walking across the street.
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Walking, like, towards the park.
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The fact is, within
a 30, 40-minute time,
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there were five or six
witnesses who saw Laci.
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So we knew that the police
narrative wasn't solid.
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And then we heard that there
had been a burglary next door.
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We had a burglary that was
reported to have occurred
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directly across the street from
the residence in question here.
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We're outside the home of
Scott and Laci Peterson's home
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in Modesto, 523 Covena.
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We want to show you
directly across the street.
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That's 516, known
as the Medina home,
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that had a burglary happen
right around the time frame
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of Laci Peterson's
disappearance.
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The Medinas left December
24th at about 10:30 AM.
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They returned home December 26th
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at about 4:30 in
the afternoon.
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During the time frame
while they were gone
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is when Laci was
reported missing.
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When the news of the
burglary came out,
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we assumed immediately
that it would be
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a big break in the case.
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Really kind of went, oh, OK,
we're getting somewhere now.
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This could be the best
lead that we've had.
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The police were now not
only trying to figure out
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what happened to Laci,
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but they were trying to
solve the Medina burglary,
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thinking that this burglary
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potentially had something to
do with what happened to Laci.
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The issue around the burglary
is when did it happen?
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On the 24th, the day
Laci went missing,
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a neighbor of Scott and
Laci was driving home.
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I was coming home from
the hand therapist
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and drove by Laci's house.
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And I thought, "Oh,
who are those people
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on the Medinas' front lawn?"
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And they were right
next to a van.
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One door was a little open.
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They turned around
and looked at me,
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and I felt hostility.
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But I didn't think
anything of it.
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I thought, "Well,
I don't need to be
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"looking at them or
waving or anything.
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I'll just go on home."
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When she heard
about this burglary
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and then the news of
Laci's disappearance,
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she came forward and thought,
"Oh, maybe this is important."
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Diane Jackson described the
three men as dark skinned
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but not African American.
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A thousand dollars for someone
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that leads us to the persons
responsible for the burglary.
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They had put out a reward.
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On the reward flyer,
they used the information
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that they'd gotten
from Diane Jackson.
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You're looking for a van.
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You're looking for three men.
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They put a senior detective
from the Major Crimes Unit
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on it, got an informant
almost immediately.
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They've actually made two
arrests in that today.
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Modesto Police
arrested two suspects,
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Steven Todd and Donald Pearce.
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Their cooperation level
was off the charts.
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They both polygraphed.
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They wanted the polygraphs
released to the media
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because they wanted the
people in the jail to know
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that they were not
involved in this case.
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Steven Todd and Glen Pearce,
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neither one of them is dark
skinned, not African American.
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But also, neither one of them
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has ever been
associated with a van.
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They said that they used a car
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and a bike to commit
the burglaries.
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The informant told police
that up to five people
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were involved, and
they didn't look into
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any of the others.
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Well, I'd like to see who
these additional people are
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and where they came
up with the idea
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that additional
people were involved
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in the burglary itself.
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I don't see anything
that would suggest that.
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Diane Jackson claimed
that she saw a van
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across the street from the
Peterson house on the 24th.
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She couldn't even really confirm
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what the color of the van was.
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And when you have that
kind of discrepancy,
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when it comes to even the
description of the vehicle,
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it calls into question the
reliability of that witness.
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At this point, there
is no connection.
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There's no leads to indicate
that they were involved
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in the missing of Laci.
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We solved that burglary.
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Found out that it, in
fact, occurred on the 26th.
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Steven Todd says that the
burglary was on the 26th,
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but that's according
to the burglar.
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He changed it.
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He picked, "Oh, it
happened on December 27th.
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Oh, no, it was the 26th."
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So it wasn't very
reliable, that's for sure.
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I thought, "Well, that's
quite interesting,"
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because on the 26th,
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there was a lot of activity
on Scott and Laci's street,
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and how could burglars
get in and out
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without anybody seeing them?
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I thought it was
highly improbable
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that that was the truth.
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They solved that
burglary really quickly.
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But there's a distinction
that needs to be made
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between solving the burglary
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and saying it didn't
have anything to do
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with Laci's disappearance.
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I find that pretty unbelievable.
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That would be an
incredible coincidence.
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One of the lead investigators,
Jon Buehler, often told me,
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there are no coincidences
in murder investigations.
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Todd and Pearce,
the two that we know
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burgled the house
across the street.
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We don't know who else
was in that burglary.
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We know there were others.
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There was just no
desire to pursue
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what the evidence
was telling them.
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I mean, it was the evidence
that they just decided
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to ignore and go with theory.
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Today marking the
one-month anniversary
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of Laci Peterson's
disappearance.
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Police right now
expected any moment now
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to walk up to the podium
and give us the very latest
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on their investigation.
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The press conference of...
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of all press conferences
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was when they marched
out Amber Frey.
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I am very sorry
for Laci's family
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and the... the pain that
this has caused them.
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Amber changed everything.
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She became the focus.
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Wow, what a development that is.
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The missing woman's
apparently perfect marriage
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may not have been so perfect.
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That he'd been having an affair.
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And we felt that if he had
not been truthful about that,
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that possibly
there's other things
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he needs to talk to us about.
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Support for Scott
Peterson has wavered
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since police told Laci's family.
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I would like Scott to
know that I trusted him
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and stood by him in
the initial phases
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of my sister's disappearance.
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However, Scott has not been
forthcoming with information
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regarding my sister's
disappearance,
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and I'm only left to question
what else he may be hiding.
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Scott had been declining
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interview requests consistently.
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Now, when Amber
Frey is out there,
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nobody's looking for Laci.
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Everybody thinks he's guilty.
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So he decided, all right,
I'll do a few interviews.
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Did you murder your wife?
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No, no. I did not.
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And I had absolutely nothing
to do with her disappearance.
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In that interview
with Diane Sawyer,
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Scott makes the
outlandish claim that...
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I told my wife.
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He told Laci about the affair,
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and she was OK with it.
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There wasn't a lot of anger?
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No.
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Do you really expect
people to believe
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that an 8 and 1/2
month pregnant woman
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learns her husband
has had an affair
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and makes a peace with it?
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Well, I... yeah,
you don't know.
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No one knows our
relationship but us.
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That was the nail in his coffin.
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This is ludicrous, the idea
that Laci knew about Amber.
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He came across as
being disingenuous.
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And in a couple of cases,
just lied right out.
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Had you told anyone?
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Did you tell police?
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I told the police immediately.
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- When?
- December 24th.
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Laci Peterson's
husband admits he lied
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about his extramarital
affair with Amber Frey.
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When you're in a
hole, stop digging.
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He shot himself in the
foot so many times,
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he ought to be on crutches.
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That's when the
word "psychopath"
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started to creep in in
some of the reports.
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He did four interviews,
I believe, total.
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One of the interviews
he did was with me.
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Well, the polygraph is
another one of those things.
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I'm not saying I have.
I'm not saying I haven't.
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There's no winning.
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You can never
present the reality.
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If you go out and
you do an interview,
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it's gonna be edited.
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It's gonna be awful.
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Amber Frey claims that you
called her on the 24th,
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told her that you were
going to Brussels.
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Yeah, this is a short newscast,
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and I don't know how
much of these words
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you're going to use or not.
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But I'm not gonna waste
that by defending myself,
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talking about irrelevant things.
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He looked like a narcissistic,
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lying killer.
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I've had people spit
on me at gas stations.
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I've received death
threats on the phone.
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I had someone in the front yard
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claiming they were a witch,
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burying things in
the front lawn.
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I wish I could say
I was stronger,
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but all that stuff
did take a toll on me.
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I just remembered
how insane I was
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going with no sleep
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and worried about
Conner and Laci
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and what seemed like
just a apathetic response
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from the police department.
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Scott's behavior fit into things
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that we've seen before
with other murder cases...
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limited cooperation level,
his cool, calm demeanor
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when everybody else
was just frantic.
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And there were too many other
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circumstantial evidence
items to ignore.
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It started to become
increasingly obvious to us
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that they would be
found in the bay.
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The search in the waters
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just outside the Berkeley
Marina began early.
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17 divers from Alameda
County loaded up on boats
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and swept the floor
of the open water
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just outside of the marina.
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Scott had given us a detailed
description of how he had
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gone out of the marina,
and he'd gone to the north,
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and he found this
island, which turned out
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to be Brooks Island,
with a sign that said,
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you're not supposed
to leave your boat
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and walk around on the island.
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So it seemed obvious
that he probably
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let her go in the area
right by Brooks Island
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in the Berkeley Marina.
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My name is Danny Lopez.
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I was the officer in
charge of the San Francisco
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Police Department Marine Patrol.
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00:14:28,468 --> 00:14:31,471
We're retracing
Scott Peterson's trip
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on the 24th.
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Dead ahead is the Brooks Island.
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The reason that it's
difficult to find somebody
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in the San Francisco
Bay is the visibility
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00:14:44,651 --> 00:14:48,321
is probably about this much.
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This is the location that we
were spending most of our time.
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That's where the grid
searches were done,
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the side-scan sonar,
the underwater searches,
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00:14:58,465 --> 00:15:01,067
cadaver dogs.
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We're continuing
our search today,
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and we're concentrating on...
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on several different things.
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We were on that water every day,
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sometimes with multiple boats,
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multiple water cadaver dogs,
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helicopters.
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00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:18,284
The number of
searches in that bay
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probably was in
the mid-500 range.
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It's a lot of area to cover.
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00:15:26,659 --> 00:15:31,264
It was looking for a needle
in the haystack blindfolded.
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One of those things
that you just do it.
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You have to give
closure to the family.
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I think the way it
started to affect me
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and others was the fact that
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it was a pregnant
mother that was missing.
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00:15:47,180 --> 00:15:49,883
We keep searching
till we find her.
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00:15:49,983 --> 00:15:51,263
I'll just keep carrying this on,
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00:15:51,317 --> 00:15:56,089
and my family will
understand why I'm not home.
314
00:15:56,189 --> 00:15:58,591
And I felt like I was
looking for my sister.
315
00:16:03,363 --> 00:16:05,598
You can't help to get
a personal attachment
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00:16:05,699 --> 00:16:07,901
over a period of time.
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This is a good... good
point of reference.
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00:16:16,543 --> 00:16:21,081
Another part of the search was
to look for devices, anchors,
319
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homemade anchors,
anything that would
320
00:16:23,750 --> 00:16:26,419
have kept a body submerged.
321
00:16:28,455 --> 00:16:31,891
We found two homemade anchors.
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They were cylindrical.
323
00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:37,530
They looked like they were
formed in a large coffee can
324
00:16:37,630 --> 00:16:40,300
or maybe a paint can.
325
00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,370
It was determined that
they were not connected
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00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:45,972
to the Scott Peterson
investigation,
327
00:16:46,072 --> 00:16:49,042
so they were thrown
back into the bay.
328
00:16:49,142 --> 00:16:53,213
But I thought it was odd
329
00:16:53,313 --> 00:16:57,050
that we didn't put
them into evidence
330
00:16:57,150 --> 00:16:59,152
and examine them.
331
00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:02,322
After months and
months of searching
332
00:17:02,422 --> 00:17:08,094
with multiple agencies,
they were never recovered.
333
00:17:08,194 --> 00:17:09,572
The district
attorney at the time,
334
00:17:09,596 --> 00:17:11,140
he said, "Hey, if you
don't bring me a body,
335
00:17:11,164 --> 00:17:12,632
you don't have a filing."
336
00:17:12,732 --> 00:17:14,734
We're getting to that
point where there really
337
00:17:14,834 --> 00:17:15,935
wasn't anything coming in.
338
00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:18,638
We were resurrecting some old
tips and clearing those out,
339
00:17:18,738 --> 00:17:22,575
but nothing ground shaking
until we get to April.
340
00:17:28,481 --> 00:17:31,317
In 2003, I was a police officer
341
00:17:31,418 --> 00:17:34,187
with the East Bay
Regional Park District.
342
00:17:34,287 --> 00:17:36,256
One day during briefing,
343
00:17:36,356 --> 00:17:38,391
one of our sergeants
made a comment...
344
00:17:38,491 --> 00:17:41,528
"I bet she'll show
up at Point Isabel."
345
00:17:41,628 --> 00:17:45,432
His experience, it was
that the way the tides flow
346
00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:48,301
in San Francisco Bay,
that more than once,
347
00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:51,004
they had had bodies
that had been recovered
348
00:17:51,104 --> 00:17:52,739
from the area of Point Isabel.
349
00:17:58,611 --> 00:18:01,481
A female adult body was
discovered late this morning
350
00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:04,984
by a woman walking the
shoreline at Point Isabel
351
00:18:05,085 --> 00:18:06,419
in the city of Richmond.
352
00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:09,055
You could see a deceased female
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00:18:09,155 --> 00:18:12,425
lying face down
on the shoreline.
354
00:18:12,525 --> 00:18:14,427
Her body was in terrible,
355
00:18:14,527 --> 00:18:17,097
obviously very
decomposed condition.
356
00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:20,100
One of the things that
I noticed on her body
357
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,338
was a strip of duct tape that
was on the front of her torso.
358
00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:29,009
My first reaction
was, "We better notify
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00:18:29,109 --> 00:18:32,145
the Modesto Police Department."
360
00:18:32,245 --> 00:18:34,814
I remember vividly
being in my car
361
00:18:34,914 --> 00:18:37,217
and hearing it on the radio
362
00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:41,421
that a body had been found
363
00:18:41,521 --> 00:18:46,993
and that an infant body had
also been found the day before.
364
00:18:47,093 --> 00:18:50,263
No word yet on whether the
two bodies found in the bay
365
00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:52,665
are those of Laci
Peterson and her baby.
366
00:18:52,766 --> 00:18:55,535
The lab results could
come any time now.
367
00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:12,152
So frankly, we thought because
368
00:19:12,252 --> 00:19:15,422
there hadn't been
an announcement...
369
00:19:23,596 --> 00:19:24,836
You know, it wasn't unheard of.
370
00:19:24,864 --> 00:19:26,433
There was...
371
00:19:26,533 --> 00:19:28,134
there's been other
bodies, you know,
372
00:19:28,234 --> 00:19:31,705
on the bay before.
373
00:19:31,805 --> 00:19:33,907
There's some people who've
driven into the bay,
374
00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:35,442
and their bodies were found.
375
00:19:35,542 --> 00:19:39,112
So it wasn't like it was
the only possibility.
376
00:19:43,116 --> 00:19:46,286
The bodies hadn't been
confirmed as Laci and Conner,
377
00:19:46,386 --> 00:19:48,421
although it looked
likely that they were.
378
00:19:48,822 --> 00:19:53,193
We put a team of guys
on Scott right away.
379
00:19:53,293 --> 00:19:55,495
We were gonna just watch him
380
00:19:55,595 --> 00:19:59,466
until the attorney general
released the DNA evidence.
381
00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:01,501
We still had a
wiretap on his phone,
382
00:20:01,601 --> 00:20:04,304
so we could hear what he was
saying, talking to his brother.
383
00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:33,466
The next day, all of a sudden,
384
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:36,836
Scott started moving
very early in the day.
385
00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:39,239
And so the chase was on.
386
00:20:46,246 --> 00:20:48,148
Yeah, see that tangle?
387
00:20:48,248 --> 00:20:49,282
I'll be right there.
388
00:20:49,382 --> 00:20:51,251
Ah, that's nice right there.
389
00:20:51,351 --> 00:20:53,453
The fish, oh, yeah.
390
00:20:53,553 --> 00:20:55,488
All right, look at that monster.
391
00:20:59,459 --> 00:21:02,262
I wanted to talk
more about the arrest
392
00:21:02,362 --> 00:21:06,399
and what that day
was like for you.
393
00:21:11,971 --> 00:21:13,707
Action photo.
394
00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:32,792
It may seem odd to other
people, but, like...
395
00:21:35,395 --> 00:21:36,596
Look at the camera.
396
00:21:47,007 --> 00:21:48,408
And be together.
397
00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:52,545
And then when I
got on the road...
398
00:22:02,989 --> 00:22:05,067
I don't want a picture of me
being taken and, you know,
399
00:22:05,091 --> 00:22:06,559
splashed on a tabloid.
400
00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:09,596
I just could imagine
what the headlines were.
401
00:22:19,906 --> 00:22:22,409
Scott was very good at
counter-surveillance driving.
402
00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:24,411
As he would drive
along at high speeds,
403
00:22:24,511 --> 00:22:26,780
he would brake
heavily and cut lanes.
404
00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:35,221
We were concerned that he
was gonna get into a wreck
405
00:22:35,321 --> 00:22:38,291
or he was gonna create a
traffic collision behind him
406
00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:40,794
because of his evasive moves.
407
00:22:40,894 --> 00:22:43,730
And so we made a
decision that if...
408
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:46,466
if he hurt somebody,
we're gonna be in trouble.
409
00:22:46,566 --> 00:22:48,868
So let's arrest him.
410
00:22:52,105 --> 00:22:54,974
We were stopped at the
entrance to Torrey Pines.
411
00:22:57,911 --> 00:22:59,979
When Scott got out
of the car, he was...
412
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,414
he was Scott.
413
00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:03,283
There was no protest.
414
00:23:03,383 --> 00:23:04,384
"You got the wrong guy.
415
00:23:04,484 --> 00:23:05,485
"Why am I in cuffs?
416
00:23:05,585 --> 00:23:06,753
"What are you doing?
417
00:23:06,853 --> 00:23:08,573
Why aren't you guys
looking for the killer?"
418
00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,891
He dyed his hair to
a different color,
419
00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:13,626
grown a goatee,
420
00:23:13,727 --> 00:23:15,528
which further
disguised him slightly
421
00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:18,331
so maybe he wouldn't be noticed.
422
00:23:18,431 --> 00:23:20,033
Searched his car.
423
00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:21,468
He had cell phones.
424
00:23:21,568 --> 00:23:23,470
He had Viagra.
425
00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:25,572
He had everything you need
426
00:23:25,672 --> 00:23:28,408
from going to a gala
427
00:23:28,508 --> 00:23:30,110
to a camping trip.
428
00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:32,712
He could dig a gold mine.
429
00:23:32,812 --> 00:23:35,949
Most people don't drive
around with $10,000 cash
430
00:23:36,049 --> 00:23:38,485
and their brother's
driver's license.
431
00:23:38,585 --> 00:23:39,919
And some people had said
432
00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:42,022
that maybe he was
fleeing to Mexico.
433
00:23:42,122 --> 00:23:44,958
He could easily go anywhere
he wanted and fit in.
434
00:23:51,698 --> 00:23:53,733
I don't understand that at all,
435
00:23:53,833 --> 00:23:55,835
because I just want to be clear.
436
00:23:55,935 --> 00:23:58,505
I was never running
from the police.
437
00:23:58,605 --> 00:24:01,574
I was always in
contact with them.
438
00:24:01,675 --> 00:24:03,977
I'd answer most of their calls.
439
00:24:04,077 --> 00:24:05,812
There were times that
I was very frustrated,
440
00:24:05,912 --> 00:24:07,947
that I would not
take their calls.
441
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,364
I found out he was
arrested about 2:00.
442
00:24:57,464 --> 00:25:00,900
It was...
443
00:25:01,001 --> 00:25:02,869
it was just... we
were just in shock.
444
00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:06,773
We were in... we were
in absolute shock.
445
00:25:06,873 --> 00:25:10,477
So we had to make arrangements
and travel to Modesto
446
00:25:10,577 --> 00:25:14,180
and attend his arraignment.
447
00:25:16,416 --> 00:25:19,019
Police in California said
today that murder suspect
448
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,689
Scott Peterson had $10,000
in cash when he was arrested
449
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:24,457
near the Mexican border.
450
00:25:24,557 --> 00:25:26,926
He had some cash in his car.
451
00:25:27,027 --> 00:25:29,729
His brother, John, was gonna
buy Scott's truck from him,
452
00:25:29,829 --> 00:25:32,565
so he gave Scott the cash
453
00:25:32,665 --> 00:25:34,868
to buy Scott out of his truck.
454
00:25:34,968 --> 00:25:37,704
And Scott was still
carrying that cash
455
00:25:37,804 --> 00:25:39,639
at the point that
he was arrested.
456
00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:41,708
He had changed his appearance.
457
00:25:41,808 --> 00:25:46,079
Police feared he might be
preparing to flee to Mexico.
458
00:25:46,179 --> 00:25:49,382
That's a narrative we
still battle to this day.
459
00:25:49,482 --> 00:25:53,420
Scott was spending a lot of
time with family in San Diego.
460
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,587
I live in San Diego.
461
00:25:54,688 --> 00:25:56,489
His parents lived in San Diego.
462
00:25:56,589 --> 00:25:58,992
And San Diego borders Mexico.
463
00:25:59,092 --> 00:26:02,495
So when Scott was arrested,
the national headline was
464
00:26:02,595 --> 00:26:05,131
"Scott was arrested 30 miles
from the Mexican border."
465
00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:12,639
The bodies had been
found five days before,
466
00:26:12,739 --> 00:26:17,777
but we still had not heard
a positive identification.
467
00:26:17,877 --> 00:26:20,547
Then I want to say within
a couple of hours of that
468
00:26:20,647 --> 00:26:21,848
was the press conference.
469
00:26:21,948 --> 00:26:24,718
There is no question
in our minds
470
00:26:24,818 --> 00:26:28,221
that the unidentified female
471
00:26:28,321 --> 00:26:29,622
is Laci Peterson.
472
00:26:29,723 --> 00:26:32,192
The unidentified fetus
473
00:26:32,292 --> 00:26:34,294
is the biological child
474
00:26:34,394 --> 00:26:37,097
of Laci and Scott Peterson.
475
00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:52,812
We were not notified.
476
00:26:52,912 --> 00:26:56,182
We heard it like everyone else.
477
00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:58,985
And we were crushed.
478
00:26:59,085 --> 00:27:03,089
All of the fear that we
had in Laci being missing
479
00:27:03,189 --> 00:27:05,925
and the pins and needles that...
you know, and the ups and downs
480
00:27:06,026 --> 00:27:08,728
that we went through
for the past four months
481
00:27:08,828 --> 00:27:10,330
had really...
482
00:27:10,430 --> 00:27:12,298
now, it's hit rock bottom.
483
00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:26,179
After Scott was arrested,
484
00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:29,182
we started driving back
from San Diego to Modesto.
485
00:27:35,822 --> 00:27:40,060
When Scott received this news,
486
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,030
I just recall Scott making
kind of like a sniffling noise,
487
00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:44,931
and that was it.
488
00:27:45,031 --> 00:27:47,200
There wasn't any
hysterics, no screams.
489
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:48,068
"No, it can't be!"
490
00:27:48,168 --> 00:27:51,137
No theatrics, nothing like that.
491
00:27:51,237 --> 00:27:54,174
He bowed his head and
pushed out a tear.
492
00:27:54,274 --> 00:27:56,309
He was quiet. He
didn't say nothing.
493
00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:00,246
15 miles later, when we stopped,
494
00:28:00,347 --> 00:28:02,849
he ate a double double,
you know, from In-N-Out,
495
00:28:02,949 --> 00:28:05,085
and a shake and a fries
496
00:28:05,185 --> 00:28:08,855
and gobbled it all
down just like nothing,
497
00:28:08,955 --> 00:28:10,857
just like we're just
coming home from fishing.
498
00:28:31,044 --> 00:28:34,314
The police report says
that Scott had a tear
499
00:28:34,414 --> 00:28:37,217
coming down his face.
500
00:28:37,317 --> 00:28:40,020
He'd been in custody
for hours at this point,
501
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,288
and he's... he's
going to county jail.
502
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:44,991
The perception and the
way it's presented is
503
00:28:45,091 --> 00:28:48,161
it's as though Scott was told
his wife and son were dead
504
00:28:48,261 --> 00:28:50,330
and he ordered a cheeseburger
five minutes later.
505
00:28:58,038 --> 00:29:01,708
Well, now we can move forward.
506
00:29:01,808 --> 00:29:03,309
And now justice can be done.
507
00:29:03,410 --> 00:29:06,346
Soon after Laci went missing,
I made a promise to her
508
00:29:06,446 --> 00:29:09,282
that if she has been
harmed, we will seek justice
509
00:29:09,382 --> 00:29:11,785
for her and Conner and
make sure that that person
510
00:29:11,885 --> 00:29:13,520
responsible for their...
511
00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:15,355
for their deaths
will be punished.
512
00:29:30,303 --> 00:29:34,274
What became a fight to find Laci
513
00:29:34,374 --> 00:29:36,810
then became a fight
to save Scott's life.
514
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,055
Shortly after midnight,
515
00:29:49,155 --> 00:29:51,124
when investigators
escorted Scott Peterson
516
00:29:51,224 --> 00:29:53,259
to the Stanislaus County Jail,
517
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,429
a crowd of 250 taunted
and heckled him,
518
00:29:56,529 --> 00:29:58,231
calling him a murderer.
519
00:29:58,331 --> 00:30:00,967
I just hope he gets the same
death that he gave his family.
520
00:30:14,714 --> 00:30:17,183
Call the case of The People
versus Scott Lee Peterson.
521
00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:19,219
Under tight security,
Scott Peterson,
522
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,221
wearing chains on his
wrists and ankles,
523
00:30:21,321 --> 00:30:23,990
was walked into a packed
Modesto courtroom today.
524
00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:25,959
Once Scott was arraigned,
525
00:30:26,059 --> 00:30:28,094
we were looking for an attorney,
526
00:30:28,194 --> 00:30:31,798
and my parents had watched
"The Larry King Show"
527
00:30:31,898 --> 00:30:33,333
for the last several months.
528
00:30:33,433 --> 00:30:36,870
That's really where we
first met Mark Geragos.
529
00:30:36,970 --> 00:30:38,972
This case is intriguing,
if for nothing else,
530
00:30:39,072 --> 00:30:42,175
is that the more there's a
lynch mob mentality out there
531
00:30:42,275 --> 00:30:44,944
for him, the more
that it's intriguing.
532
00:30:45,045 --> 00:30:46,046
They hired him.
533
00:30:46,146 --> 00:30:47,914
He was media savvy.
534
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:49,916
He seemed like he
had a good team.
535
00:30:50,016 --> 00:30:52,986
I just wanted to say that
we're happy that Mark is
536
00:30:53,086 --> 00:30:55,221
in place as Scott's attorney,
537
00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:59,025
and we do look forward
to proving his innocence.
538
00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:00,660
I'm Lara Yeretsian,
539
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,031
and I'm a criminal defense
attorney of over two decades.
540
00:31:05,131 --> 00:31:08,902
We got the case in 2003.
541
00:31:09,002 --> 00:31:10,337
I was a young attorney.
542
00:31:10,437 --> 00:31:13,206
This case was on
a whole new level.
543
00:31:13,306 --> 00:31:16,776
27-year-old mom-to-be,
eight months pregnant.
544
00:31:16,876 --> 00:31:19,913
As the investigation into the
disappearance of Laci Peterson
545
00:31:20,013 --> 00:31:22,115
continues, police are...
- Though neither the victim
546
00:31:22,215 --> 00:31:24,451
nor the accused
was famous before,
547
00:31:24,551 --> 00:31:29,055
the Peterson case has now
taken on celebrity status.
548
00:31:29,155 --> 00:31:30,790
I'd handled a number of cases,
549
00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:35,195
but nothing that came close
to the magnitude of this case.
550
00:31:37,564 --> 00:31:43,169
The interest was so
intense in this case.
551
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:46,973
I just remember walking
with Mark Geragos
552
00:31:47,073 --> 00:31:48,441
towards the courthouse.
553
00:31:48,541 --> 00:31:50,910
People would come up
to us with questions.
554
00:31:51,011 --> 00:31:52,312
And it wasn't just the media.
555
00:31:52,412 --> 00:31:54,247
Mark, can we get a
quick word with ya?
556
00:31:54,347 --> 00:31:57,283
- Right now? How about after?
- OK.
557
00:31:57,384 --> 00:32:00,186
People would even ask
for Mark's autograph.
558
00:32:00,286 --> 00:32:02,822
I mean, he had
become a celebrity.
559
00:32:02,922 --> 00:32:03,957
Thank you very much.
560
00:32:04,057 --> 00:32:05,291
I'll see you guys on Thursday.
561
00:32:06,526 --> 00:32:09,929
Come on. Come on, be
human beings right now.
562
00:32:10,030 --> 00:32:13,099
There was a lot of
anger, palpable anger,
563
00:32:13,199 --> 00:32:14,934
towards Scott Peterson.
564
00:32:18,271 --> 00:32:20,373
And everybody had an
opinion about this case.
565
00:32:20,473 --> 00:32:23,643
Every single person I
knew had an opinion.
566
00:32:23,743 --> 00:32:25,378
And I can tell you,
567
00:32:25,478 --> 00:32:28,815
every single person
believed that he was guilty.
568
00:32:31,951 --> 00:32:32,952
Michael Cardoza.
569
00:32:33,053 --> 00:32:34,333
Top defense attorney
in the area,
570
00:32:34,421 --> 00:32:36,122
who was in the courtroom today.
571
00:32:36,222 --> 00:32:38,091
I'm Michael Cardoza.
572
00:32:38,191 --> 00:32:41,528
I've been a criminal defense
attorney for over 45 years.
573
00:32:41,628 --> 00:32:45,965
And at that time, I was
doing some legal commentary
574
00:32:46,066 --> 00:32:47,367
on "The Larry King Show."
575
00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:49,045
Here's what this case
boils down to, Larry.
576
00:32:49,069 --> 00:32:50,270
There are three things.
577
00:32:50,370 --> 00:32:53,039
The defense team came
to me and asked me
578
00:32:53,139 --> 00:32:56,609
if I would do a mock
cross-examination
579
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:59,245
of Scott Peterson.
580
00:32:59,346 --> 00:33:01,081
I went into jail. I walked in.
581
00:33:01,181 --> 00:33:04,217
I sat down. They
brought Scott in.
582
00:33:04,317 --> 00:33:07,253
And I began my
cross-examination.
583
00:33:07,354 --> 00:33:09,389
I cannot tell you how
and what happened,
584
00:33:09,489 --> 00:33:14,627
but you can imagine, you know,
what questions were asked.
585
00:33:14,728 --> 00:33:18,565
And they made a decision
he wasn't going to testify.
586
00:33:18,665 --> 00:33:21,301
I hope he goes to prison
for the rest of his life.
587
00:33:21,401 --> 00:33:23,603
I'm just glad that
the animal got caught.
588
00:33:23,703 --> 00:33:26,206
What you have to remember is
you're putting a man up there
589
00:33:26,306 --> 00:33:29,342
who was hated by America.
590
00:33:29,442 --> 00:33:32,979
And then you witnessed
the previous interviews
591
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:36,182
and how poorly he did there.
592
00:33:38,718 --> 00:33:39,753
You know what?
593
00:33:39,853 --> 00:33:43,556
It's a positive to allow us
to go on to search for Laci.
594
00:33:43,656 --> 00:33:47,227
Why would you expect
he's gonna do a 180
595
00:33:47,327 --> 00:33:50,030
and come across convincing
596
00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:52,532
the jury that he didn't do it?
597
00:33:54,234 --> 00:33:57,337
I think if you put Scott
Peterson on the stand,
598
00:33:57,437 --> 00:33:58,972
he would have been eaten alive.
599
00:34:05,712 --> 00:34:08,948
Opening statements begin
today in the double-murder
600
00:34:09,049 --> 00:34:11,251
trial of Scott Peterson.
601
00:34:11,351 --> 00:34:14,921
Scott Peterson's case is
a character evidence case
602
00:34:15,021 --> 00:34:16,389
and nothing else.
603
00:34:16,489 --> 00:34:18,525
But the smoke and mirrors to it
604
00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:21,161
is the suggestion that
there's a great deal
605
00:34:21,261 --> 00:34:23,229
of circumstantial
evidence. There isn't.
606
00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:26,232
There's an affair, and there's
the location of the bodies.
607
00:34:26,332 --> 00:34:27,634
That's the entire case.
608
00:34:27,734 --> 00:34:29,602
People don't wrap
themselves in duct tape
609
00:34:29,703 --> 00:34:31,705
and then go jump in
the San Francisco Bay
610
00:34:31,805 --> 00:34:32,706
in the middle of winter.
611
00:34:32,806 --> 00:34:35,308
The state knew the
problems with their case.
612
00:34:35,408 --> 00:34:38,278
They didn't know how he
did it, when he did it,
613
00:34:38,378 --> 00:34:43,249
but they knew that he
was a liar, a cheater.
614
00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:46,186
And they relied on that.
615
00:34:46,286 --> 00:34:48,154
All of these things
were impossible.
616
00:34:48,254 --> 00:34:49,534
If those things were impossible,
617
00:34:49,622 --> 00:34:52,392
then this man murdered
Laci Peterson.
618
00:34:52,492 --> 00:34:54,627
They just didn't have
anything of substance.
619
00:34:54,728 --> 00:34:57,630
So we felt very good
and very confident.
620
00:34:57,731 --> 00:35:00,233
If the court wants to talk
about prejudicial publicity,
621
00:35:00,333 --> 00:35:04,137
having poster-sized pictures
of him labeled as a monster
622
00:35:04,237 --> 00:35:06,339
in chains, I don't think is...
623
00:35:06,439 --> 00:35:09,442
is somehow conducive to
getting a fair trial.
624
00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:11,382
My first impression was
that the Geragos team
625
00:35:11,478 --> 00:35:12,846
was very professional
626
00:35:12,946 --> 00:35:15,115
and were prepared for this.
627
00:35:15,215 --> 00:35:16,449
Mark Geragos comes out
628
00:35:16,549 --> 00:35:18,018
in his opening
statement and says,
629
00:35:18,118 --> 00:35:19,452
"Yes, he's a cheater.
630
00:35:19,552 --> 00:35:22,155
Yes, he's a 14-carat A-hole,
631
00:35:22,255 --> 00:35:23,356
but he's not a killer."
632
00:35:23,456 --> 00:35:25,125
Now, on the prosecuting
attorney side,
633
00:35:25,225 --> 00:35:26,393
I didn't feel that way.
634
00:35:26,493 --> 00:35:28,428
I thought that they
were bumbling it.
635
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:34,777
Scott Peterson's
tone and demeanor
636
00:35:34,801 --> 00:35:37,604
following Laci's disappearance
are being called into question.
637
00:35:37,704 --> 00:35:40,340
This after prosecutors played
a taped police interview
638
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,875
with him describing what he did
639
00:35:41,975 --> 00:35:43,476
the day Laci disappeared.
640
00:35:43,576 --> 00:35:46,579
Day one, there was
a mistake made.
641
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,450
Scott says that the morning
of Laci's disappearance...
642
00:35:55,522 --> 00:35:58,158
The prosecution claims
that Martha Stewart
643
00:35:58,258 --> 00:36:00,694
wasn't talking about
meringue that morning,
644
00:36:00,794 --> 00:36:04,798
that they say this is
evidence he was lying.
645
00:36:04,898 --> 00:36:06,499
Geragos brings it in.
646
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,302
He says, "Let's roll the
tape," and you see it.
647
00:36:09,402 --> 00:36:11,371
Ooh, you want to make
little meringues?
648
00:36:11,471 --> 00:36:13,473
Oh, that would be nice.
649
00:36:13,573 --> 00:36:15,475
The prosecution got it wrong.
650
00:36:15,575 --> 00:36:17,644
And this happens at
the jump of the trial.
651
00:36:17,744 --> 00:36:21,681
- Did you check these windows?
- Yeah.
652
00:36:21,781 --> 00:36:23,583
You don't commit a violent crime
653
00:36:23,683 --> 00:36:25,151
without getting
your hands dirty.
654
00:36:25,251 --> 00:36:26,720
The police executed
655
00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:29,122
more than 10 search
warrants on the home
656
00:36:29,222 --> 00:36:30,490
and his place of business.
657
00:36:30,590 --> 00:36:32,301
Officers began a search
of the couple's home
658
00:36:32,325 --> 00:36:33,760
late last night.
659
00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:37,430
After they found pretty
much zero physical evidence
660
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:39,250
in the house or in the
truck or in the boat,
661
00:36:39,299 --> 00:36:43,837
the theory had to become
that this was a soft kill.
662
00:36:43,937 --> 00:36:49,275
A soft kill is a murder that
doesn't involve a weapon,
663
00:36:49,376 --> 00:36:51,544
that doesn't leave
behind essentially
664
00:36:51,644 --> 00:36:53,580
obvious forensic evidence.
665
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,716
The coroner has yet to
determine the cause of death.
666
00:36:56,816 --> 00:37:00,120
Unless there is a pretty good
cause of death in the torso,
667
00:37:00,220 --> 00:37:01,321
they're stuck.
668
00:37:01,421 --> 00:37:03,089
How was this person killed?
669
00:37:03,189 --> 00:37:04,724
We don't know.
670
00:37:04,824 --> 00:37:07,560
And throughout the trial,
we never found out.
671
00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:12,165
Even a soft kill leaves
behind some sort of trail.
672
00:37:12,265 --> 00:37:13,633
If he kills her
673
00:37:13,733 --> 00:37:16,469
and is dragging her
around to his workshop
674
00:37:16,569 --> 00:37:19,205
and then to the
San Francisco Bay,
675
00:37:19,305 --> 00:37:20,507
how did he pull that off?
676
00:37:20,607 --> 00:37:23,643
It's what you say when you
have absolutely no evidence
677
00:37:23,743 --> 00:37:25,703
that there was a crime
that occurred in this home.
678
00:37:25,779 --> 00:37:29,549
But if they were
being fair about it,
679
00:37:29,649 --> 00:37:31,518
they'd also have to
acknowledge, "By the way,
680
00:37:31,618 --> 00:37:33,386
"given the state and
condition of the bodies
681
00:37:33,486 --> 00:37:35,522
"when we finally found
them, there's no evidence
682
00:37:35,622 --> 00:37:37,257
that it was a soft kill."
683
00:37:38,858 --> 00:37:41,528
Tonight, day nine of Scott
Peterson's murder trial,
684
00:37:41,628 --> 00:37:43,263
and his attorney, Mark Geragos,
685
00:37:43,363 --> 00:37:45,098
grills police on the stand.
686
00:37:45,198 --> 00:37:47,701
Detective Al Brocchini
was the first investigator
687
00:37:47,801 --> 00:37:51,271
on the scene the day Laci
Peterson was reported missing.
688
00:37:51,371 --> 00:37:53,173
He was pretty hard on me.
689
00:37:53,273 --> 00:37:54,174
You know, Geragos was.
690
00:37:54,274 --> 00:37:56,676
I was the bad guy.
691
00:37:56,776 --> 00:38:01,381
Every mistake I made, he
turned it into a whole day
692
00:38:01,481 --> 00:38:02,816
of talking about it.
693
00:38:02,916 --> 00:38:04,884
Detective Brocchini
was a little forgetful
694
00:38:04,984 --> 00:38:05,785
from time to time.
695
00:38:05,885 --> 00:38:08,388
In cross-examination,
the defense already
696
00:38:08,488 --> 00:38:10,657
questioning his motives.
697
00:38:10,757 --> 00:38:13,793
I testified that nobody
knew Scott had a boat.
698
00:38:28,808 --> 00:38:32,846
He says Laci knew he had a
boat, but we can't ask her.
699
00:38:32,946 --> 00:38:36,282
Brocchini felt like it
will strengthen his case
700
00:38:36,383 --> 00:38:37,543
if he makes it look like Laci
701
00:38:37,617 --> 00:38:38,485
didn't even know about the boat.
702
00:38:38,585 --> 00:38:39,619
She didn't even know.
703
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,188
That hugely backfired on him.
704
00:38:42,288 --> 00:38:46,626
Geragos scored the most points
when Brocchini took the stand
705
00:38:46,726 --> 00:38:51,431
because Brocchini had redacted
a piece of his report.
706
00:38:51,531 --> 00:38:53,366
We interviewed everybody
in all those shops
707
00:38:53,466 --> 00:38:54,968
near the warehouse,
708
00:38:55,068 --> 00:38:57,604
and I interviewed a man
709
00:38:57,704 --> 00:39:01,374
that said Laci used
the bathroom of a lady
710
00:39:01,474 --> 00:39:03,309
that owned a shop on the 23rd,
711
00:39:03,410 --> 00:39:05,879
the day before Laci
was actually missing.
712
00:39:05,979 --> 00:39:10,717
So when I got my report
back, I deleted that line.
713
00:39:10,817 --> 00:39:12,619
Geragos, he's like,
"What happened?
714
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,355
Who took that line out
of your police report?"
715
00:39:15,455 --> 00:39:16,823
And I said, "I did."
716
00:39:16,923 --> 00:39:18,224
Ah.
717
00:39:18,324 --> 00:39:19,626
That's a big moment.
718
00:39:19,726 --> 00:39:23,263
I... I eliminated some
exculpatory evidence
719
00:39:23,363 --> 00:39:24,998
from my police report.
720
00:39:25,098 --> 00:39:26,499
I can't reply.
721
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,401
I can't say, "Well,
it's in Holmes's report.
722
00:39:28,501 --> 00:39:29,703
He's got it all in there."
723
00:39:29,803 --> 00:39:32,305
All it takes, one juror to say,
724
00:39:32,405 --> 00:39:33,973
"I don't believe that detective.
725
00:39:34,074 --> 00:39:37,577
He had an agenda."
726
00:39:37,677 --> 00:39:39,546
Legal analysts say
they've heard nothing yet
727
00:39:39,646 --> 00:39:42,916
that they think would convince
a jury to convict Peterson.
728
00:39:43,016 --> 00:39:44,927
We believed that there
was no way they were gonna
729
00:39:44,951 --> 00:39:46,262
be able to show
this case, prove it,
730
00:39:46,286 --> 00:39:49,456
because the jury is gonna see
that this was nonsensical.
731
00:39:49,556 --> 00:39:50,824
It made no sense.
732
00:39:50,924 --> 00:39:52,926
It felt to me like the
Modesto Police Department
733
00:39:53,026 --> 00:39:54,928
had basically put their
sights on Scott Peterson
734
00:39:55,028 --> 00:39:58,698
and that they put all
their eggs in one basket.
735
00:39:58,798 --> 00:40:03,670
Geragos was able to just seed
736
00:40:03,770 --> 00:40:05,572
each one of these
state witnesses
737
00:40:05,672 --> 00:40:07,674
with reasonable doubt.
738
00:40:07,774 --> 00:40:10,076
The analytical research
studying micro-expressions
739
00:40:10,176 --> 00:40:11,644
of people's faces.
740
00:40:11,745 --> 00:40:14,647
It was unbelievable
741
00:40:14,748 --> 00:40:18,051
how Mark Geragos took
over that courtroom.
742
00:40:18,151 --> 00:40:19,853
The defense was winning.
743
00:40:19,953 --> 00:40:22,255
We've set the bar
extremely high.
744
00:40:22,355 --> 00:40:25,492
And that's to prove that Scott
is not only factually innocent,
745
00:40:25,592 --> 00:40:27,694
but to figure out
exactly who it is
746
00:40:27,794 --> 00:40:29,562
did this horrible
thing to Scott's wife
747
00:40:29,662 --> 00:40:31,965
and to Scott's son.
748
00:40:32,065 --> 00:40:34,668
By its nature, a
defense attorney's job
749
00:40:34,768 --> 00:40:36,636
is not to prove anything.
750
00:40:36,736 --> 00:40:39,439
It's simply to demonstrate
that this package
751
00:40:39,539 --> 00:40:41,608
with the bow on top
752
00:40:41,708 --> 00:40:43,510
that the state is trying
to create for you,
753
00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:45,445
it... it... it doesn't exist.
754
00:40:45,545 --> 00:40:47,914
It's not real.
755
00:40:48,014 --> 00:40:50,817
But Mark Geragos's
statements said,
756
00:40:50,917 --> 00:40:53,453
"We're not just going to
plant reasonable doubt.
757
00:40:53,553 --> 00:40:55,555
"We're going to prove
that Scott Peterson
758
00:40:55,655 --> 00:40:57,357
is stone-cold innocent."
759
00:40:57,457 --> 00:40:58,725
Those were the words.
760
00:40:58,825 --> 00:40:59,902
The actual perpetrator
is still out there.
761
00:40:59,926 --> 00:41:01,628
We plan on finding that person.
762
00:41:01,728 --> 00:41:03,096
Experts say, normally,
763
00:41:03,196 --> 00:41:05,899
a defense attorney wouldn't
make promises to a jury,
764
00:41:05,999 --> 00:41:08,635
but defense attorney Mark
Geragos made several.
765
00:41:08,735 --> 00:41:09,912
That's what sticks
with the jury.
766
00:41:09,936 --> 00:41:12,172
But the problem
is, he overpromised
767
00:41:12,272 --> 00:41:14,007
and under-delivered.
768
00:41:20,847 --> 00:41:23,316
Mark Geragos is great
on cross-examination,
769
00:41:23,416 --> 00:41:27,053
and he's tripping the police
up in a lot of little details.
770
00:41:27,153 --> 00:41:30,557
The reality is that
those little details
771
00:41:30,657 --> 00:41:33,093
may not add up to a
not guilty verdict.
772
00:41:33,193 --> 00:41:38,064
If you had a graph in terms
of the strength of the defense
773
00:41:38,164 --> 00:41:41,501
and the persuasiveness
of the cross-examination,
774
00:41:41,601 --> 00:41:44,504
it wanes over time.
775
00:41:44,604 --> 00:41:46,873
Tonight, Scott
Peterson's former lover,
776
00:41:46,973 --> 00:41:48,875
Amber Frey, finally
takes the stand
777
00:41:48,975 --> 00:41:50,744
at his double-murder trial.
778
00:41:50,844 --> 00:41:52,612
There was a major
shift in this case
779
00:41:52,712 --> 00:41:54,114
when Amber Frey appeared.
780
00:41:54,214 --> 00:41:56,916
Jurors heard Amber Frey
accuse Scott Peterson
781
00:41:57,017 --> 00:41:59,552
of planning the murder
of his pregnant wife.
782
00:41:59,652 --> 00:42:01,121
It wasn't what she testified to.
783
00:42:01,221 --> 00:42:03,723
It was that through her
testimony and in her testimony,
784
00:42:03,823 --> 00:42:05,158
we heard all of those tapes.
785
00:42:15,935 --> 00:42:19,839
The prosecution did something
I'd never seen before or since.
786
00:42:19,939 --> 00:42:22,609
They had printed
out the transcripts
787
00:42:22,709 --> 00:42:23,753
of every single phone call.
788
00:42:23,777 --> 00:42:27,247
It was so compelling
789
00:42:27,347 --> 00:42:28,682
not to just hear it,
790
00:42:28,782 --> 00:42:30,550
but to be able to
make notes on it.
791
00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:32,652
And you could see the
jurors making notes.
792
00:42:32,752 --> 00:42:35,555
You know, here's where he
said, "I lost my wife."
793
00:42:35,655 --> 00:42:37,190
Here's the date.
Here's this call.
794
00:42:37,290 --> 00:42:38,725
Here's this call.
795
00:42:38,825 --> 00:42:41,861
The Amber tapes were clearly
796
00:42:41,961 --> 00:42:44,931
one of the worst pieces
of evidence in the case.
797
00:42:45,031 --> 00:42:49,936
It showed a side of him
that was comfortably lying.
798
00:42:50,036 --> 00:42:52,005
If you could have heard
this testimony today,
799
00:42:52,105 --> 00:42:57,110
the credibility of Scott
Peterson is now on the line.
800
00:42:57,210 --> 00:42:59,946
The defense made a
decision not to bring up
801
00:43:00,046 --> 00:43:02,716
any of these
dog-walking eyewitnesses
802
00:43:02,816 --> 00:43:04,684
that thought they saw Laci.
803
00:43:04,784 --> 00:43:06,686
The prosecution
and law enforcement
804
00:43:06,786 --> 00:43:08,922
had done a beautiful job
805
00:43:09,022 --> 00:43:11,691
of trying to discredit
these people.
806
00:43:11,791 --> 00:43:14,527
They made these people think
that what they were saying
807
00:43:14,627 --> 00:43:15,962
was not accurate.
808
00:43:16,062 --> 00:43:17,831
Some of them thought,
"Are we going crazy?
809
00:43:17,931 --> 00:43:19,933
Is it possible that
it wasn't her?"
810
00:43:20,033 --> 00:43:21,277
And guess what happens
to that witness?
811
00:43:21,301 --> 00:43:24,037
That becomes a weak
witness for the defense.
812
00:43:24,137 --> 00:43:27,841
Had anybody put witnesses on
the stand that would support
813
00:43:27,941 --> 00:43:31,878
the claim that Laci
was walking the dog,
814
00:43:31,978 --> 00:43:34,047
that would have made
a lot of difference.
815
00:43:34,147 --> 00:43:36,950
If somebody actually
really saw Laci,
816
00:43:37,050 --> 00:43:39,119
then, yes, that
would be important.
817
00:43:39,219 --> 00:43:40,020
Didn't happen.
818
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,922
And... and I think that
people second guessed
819
00:43:43,023 --> 00:43:45,725
Mark Geragos specifically
for that decision.
820
00:43:48,094 --> 00:43:50,997
The judge believed that
the burglary and Laci's
821
00:43:51,097 --> 00:43:52,937
disappearance were
unrelated and wouldn't allow
822
00:43:52,966 --> 00:43:55,035
any evidence in the trial.
823
00:43:55,135 --> 00:43:57,070
Everyone discounted the burglary
824
00:43:57,170 --> 00:43:58,905
because they believed
that it happened
825
00:43:59,005 --> 00:44:01,074
after Laci's disappearance.
826
00:44:01,174 --> 00:44:04,511
It meant the jury didn't hear
evidence about the burglary.
827
00:44:04,611 --> 00:44:07,180
Without the Medina burglary
being admitted into evidence,
828
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,684
there's no other alternate
theory that can explain
829
00:44:10,784 --> 00:44:12,986
Laci Peterson's disappearance.
830
00:44:13,086 --> 00:44:15,789
Part of the problem was they
wanted to get the trial over
831
00:44:15,889 --> 00:44:18,692
as soon as possible so
he would be exonerated
832
00:44:18,792 --> 00:44:20,226
and continue with his life.
833
00:44:20,326 --> 00:44:23,229
And I think that was a mistake
because I really don't think
834
00:44:23,329 --> 00:44:27,701
the defense had enough time
to really understand the case
835
00:44:27,801 --> 00:44:29,102
to defend it properly.
836
00:44:33,173 --> 00:44:35,709
And, gosh, I look
back on that now,
837
00:44:35,809 --> 00:44:37,644
and I wonder if that
was the right decision.
838
00:44:37,744 --> 00:44:40,714
We had the evidence
of my innocence.
839
00:44:40,814 --> 00:44:44,117
It was a nightmare being
stuck in county jail.
840
00:44:56,162 --> 00:44:58,765
And I kind of
wonder, gosh, if I...
841
00:44:58,865 --> 00:45:04,037
If I had been more prudent
or patient or whatever,
842
00:45:04,137 --> 00:45:07,140
maybe things would've
been different.
843
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:10,977
The Scott Peterson murder
trial may go to the jury today.
844
00:45:11,077 --> 00:45:13,146
This man murdered Laci Peterson.
845
00:45:13,246 --> 00:45:15,882
The prosecutor, in
his closing argument,
846
00:45:15,982 --> 00:45:19,252
says, look at this
as a jigsaw puzzle.
847
00:45:19,352 --> 00:45:22,222
You need to put the pieces
of the puzzle together.
848
00:45:22,322 --> 00:45:24,858
Is it a coincidence
that Scott Peterson
849
00:45:24,958 --> 00:45:26,960
was looking at tide charts?
850
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:29,996
Is it a coincidence
that Scott Peterson
851
00:45:30,096 --> 00:45:32,065
told Amber Frey he lost his wife
852
00:45:32,165 --> 00:45:34,134
the same month that she died?
853
00:45:34,234 --> 00:45:36,870
Is it a coincidence that
there was cement found,
854
00:45:36,970 --> 00:45:39,773
anchor circles in his warehouse?
855
00:45:39,873 --> 00:45:43,376
All these things
add up to murder.
856
00:45:43,476 --> 00:45:47,914
The prosecution came with
this very deliberate argument
857
00:45:48,014 --> 00:45:50,083
that it's open and shut.
858
00:45:50,183 --> 00:45:54,187
This is a man who was
staring down the barrel
859
00:45:54,287 --> 00:45:58,024
of domesticity with his wife
and this child on the way,
860
00:45:58,124 --> 00:46:00,360
that he wanted nothing
to do with any of that.
861
00:46:00,460 --> 00:46:04,597
The facts are borne out in
the extramarital relationship
862
00:46:04,698 --> 00:46:07,600
he's having and the things that
he is saying to his mistress.
863
00:46:07,701 --> 00:46:10,670
In his closing argument,
defense attorney Mark Geragos
864
00:46:10,770 --> 00:46:14,341
told jurors that prosecutors
wanted them to hate Peterson,
865
00:46:14,441 --> 00:46:18,144
but that was not reason
enough to convict him.
866
00:46:18,244 --> 00:46:21,681
It's hard to be critical,
but I was uncomfortable
867
00:46:21,781 --> 00:46:24,184
when the defense rested.
868
00:46:25,418 --> 00:46:28,154
You must not be biased
against the defendant
869
00:46:28,254 --> 00:46:30,357
because he has been
arrested for this offense,
870
00:46:30,457 --> 00:46:33,026
charged with a crime,
or brought to trial.
871
00:46:33,126 --> 00:46:36,096
After being instructed by
the judge for nearly an hour,
872
00:46:36,196 --> 00:46:38,798
the six men and six
women of the jury
873
00:46:38,898 --> 00:46:41,634
will now decide Scott
Peterson's fate.
874
00:46:41,735 --> 00:46:45,005
We went through things that
were key points to each person.
875
00:46:45,105 --> 00:46:47,173
We did take polls to find out
876
00:46:47,273 --> 00:46:49,843
what people were concerned about
877
00:46:49,943 --> 00:46:53,146
and what we needed answers to.
878
00:46:53,246 --> 00:46:55,115
Are we ready to make a decision,
879
00:46:55,215 --> 00:46:58,151
or are there other things
that need to be answered?
880
00:46:58,251 --> 00:47:01,321
What questions do we have?
881
00:47:01,421 --> 00:47:04,257
That's why our deliberation
took the time it did
882
00:47:04,357 --> 00:47:06,059
because everybody had questions
883
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:08,928
and different
opinions of things.
884
00:47:09,029 --> 00:47:11,931
I was counting on a jury
that would come back
885
00:47:12,032 --> 00:47:13,433
with an acquittal
886
00:47:13,533 --> 00:47:15,802
because I thought,
there's no evidence here.
887
00:47:15,902 --> 00:47:17,046
There's no forensic evidence.
888
00:47:17,070 --> 00:47:19,172
There's nothing to
tie him to the murder.
889
00:47:19,272 --> 00:47:21,941
Everything in this
case you can look at
890
00:47:22,042 --> 00:47:23,810
from a different lens.
891
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:25,945
Take one piece of
evidence and look at it
892
00:47:26,046 --> 00:47:27,213
from the state's side.
893
00:47:27,313 --> 00:47:30,250
And then you take
that exact same fact
894
00:47:30,350 --> 00:47:33,219
and look at it from
Scott Peterson's side.
895
00:47:33,319 --> 00:47:35,355
And you can make an argument
896
00:47:35,455 --> 00:47:39,693
of those components
of this case.
897
00:47:39,793 --> 00:47:42,796
116 people waited to get
the chance at witnessing
898
00:47:42,896 --> 00:47:44,230
the verdict being read.
899
00:47:44,330 --> 00:47:46,800
The decision coming
after more than 40 hours
900
00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:48,401
of deliberations.
901
00:47:48,501 --> 00:47:50,403
Across the country,
millions of Americans
902
00:47:50,503 --> 00:47:53,440
familiar with the faces
of this unfolding drama
903
00:47:53,540 --> 00:47:55,775
could only listen to
its final moments.
904
00:47:58,244 --> 00:48:00,480
We walked back
into the courtroom.
905
00:48:03,450 --> 00:48:05,552
I just remember I
was really, really...
906
00:48:05,652 --> 00:48:06,786
I was perspiring.
907
00:48:06,886 --> 00:48:07,921
I mean, I was...
908
00:48:08,021 --> 00:48:09,356
I could feel my heart pounding.
909
00:48:09,456 --> 00:48:13,193
One of the toughest
moments for any lawyer
910
00:48:13,293 --> 00:48:15,895
is the moment right before
911
00:48:15,995 --> 00:48:18,765
the jury foreman
912
00:48:18,865 --> 00:48:21,034
reads the verdict.
913
00:48:21,134 --> 00:48:23,937
It almost feels like
your heart is gonna stop.
914
00:48:25,171 --> 00:48:27,340
A crowd outside the
Redwood City Courthouse
915
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,442
waited in tense silence
for the verdict.
916
00:48:29,542 --> 00:48:31,811
We find the defendant,
Scott Lee Peterson,
917
00:48:31,911 --> 00:48:33,111
guilty of the crime of murder.
918
00:48:36,282 --> 00:48:38,051
There were cheers,
too, in Modesto,
919
00:48:38,151 --> 00:48:39,819
Laci Peterson's hometown.
920
00:48:41,521 --> 00:48:43,923
Inside the courtroom,
even the judge
921
00:48:44,024 --> 00:48:45,225
seemed to choke with emotion.
922
00:48:45,325 --> 00:48:47,293
Laci Peterson's family sobbed.
923
00:48:47,394 --> 00:48:51,765
But Scott Peterson showed
no obvious reaction.
924
00:48:51,865 --> 00:48:55,435
I looked at my dad, and he had
a shocked look on his face.
925
00:48:55,535 --> 00:48:56,536
I had a shocked look.
926
00:48:56,636 --> 00:48:57,637
I couldn't even cry.
927
00:48:57,737 --> 00:48:59,172
I was just, like, stunned.
928
00:48:59,272 --> 00:49:01,975
A lot of people are
not fooled by...
929
00:49:02,075 --> 00:49:04,844
by what went on here.
930
00:49:04,944 --> 00:49:07,047
This is just a travesty.
931
00:49:07,147 --> 00:49:08,391
When the clerk read the verdict,
932
00:49:08,415 --> 00:49:11,184
I just remember thinking that...
933
00:49:11,284 --> 00:49:13,486
that I'd just missed
the word "not."
934
00:49:13,586 --> 00:49:16,322
She must have just
said "not guilty."
935
00:49:16,423 --> 00:49:18,058
I missed it.
936
00:49:18,158 --> 00:49:21,094
And you could hear a crowd
937
00:49:21,194 --> 00:49:24,898
outside the courthouse erupt.
938
00:49:24,998 --> 00:49:26,866
Oh, we got him. That's it.
939
00:49:26,966 --> 00:49:28,501
I'm happy. Thank God!
940
00:49:28,601 --> 00:49:29,336
Thank God!
941
00:49:29,436 --> 00:49:31,004
I don't know how
else to describe it
942
00:49:31,104 --> 00:49:33,206
other than absolute shock.
943
00:49:33,306 --> 00:49:35,141
Our family's going to make it.
944
00:49:35,241 --> 00:49:39,112
We're stronger because of this.
945
00:49:39,212 --> 00:49:40,613
And Scott got what he deserved.
946
00:49:45,185 --> 00:49:48,655
I don't think that Amber
Frey was... was the issue.
947
00:49:48,755 --> 00:49:50,123
I think that this...
948
00:49:50,223 --> 00:49:51,891
this had been planned
before Amber Frey
949
00:49:51,991 --> 00:49:53,360
even got in the picture.
950
00:49:53,460 --> 00:49:55,895
I've had people after the
trial come up to me and say,
951
00:49:55,995 --> 00:49:57,063
"Was he really guilty?"
952
00:49:57,163 --> 00:49:58,465
And I go, are you serious?
953
00:49:58,565 --> 00:50:01,134
I would find somebody
that was innocent guilty?
954
00:50:01,234 --> 00:50:02,402
I would never do that.
955
00:50:02,502 --> 00:50:04,337
We just said a man
was guilty of killing
956
00:50:04,437 --> 00:50:05,972
his wife and unborn child.
957
00:50:06,072 --> 00:50:07,240
That's a terrible thing.
958
00:50:07,340 --> 00:50:08,875
What's there to cheer about?
959
00:50:08,975 --> 00:50:12,512
Nobody on that jury wanted
to find Scott Peterson guilty
960
00:50:12,612 --> 00:50:14,314
just for the sake of
finding him guilty
961
00:50:14,414 --> 00:50:16,016
or because of public opinion.
962
00:50:16,116 --> 00:50:18,318
My decision
963
00:50:18,418 --> 00:50:21,121
was nothing more
than what I found
964
00:50:21,221 --> 00:50:24,024
based on evidence and testimony.
965
00:50:24,124 --> 00:50:27,093
Seeing what we saw,
I'm a mother of four.
966
00:50:27,193 --> 00:50:29,262
Goddamn, that was his son.
967
00:50:29,362 --> 00:50:31,197
He'll never come clean.
968
00:50:31,297 --> 00:50:32,832
He'll never admit it.
969
00:50:32,932 --> 00:50:36,002
He'll go to his grave with
it, and then he'll go to hell,
970
00:50:36,102 --> 00:50:37,537
straight to hell and rot.
971
00:51:19,245 --> 00:51:20,485
Peterson has been found guilty
972
00:51:20,513 --> 00:51:22,649
of first and
second-degree murder.
973
00:51:22,749 --> 00:51:26,753
Now, Scott Peterson is
eligible for the death penalty.
974
00:51:29,356 --> 00:51:31,558
The jury finds him guilty.
975
00:51:31,658 --> 00:51:34,294
And then the question
is, what's the penalty?
976
00:51:34,394 --> 00:51:35,528
Do you get life in prison?
977
00:51:35,628 --> 00:51:38,398
Do you get the death penalty?
978
00:51:38,498 --> 00:51:42,135
We're gonna have
to ask this jury,
979
00:51:42,235 --> 00:51:46,006
who thinks that he murdered
his wife and unborn son,
980
00:51:46,106 --> 00:51:47,741
to not take his life.
981
00:51:55,548 --> 00:51:57,350
Hi, everyone. First
up on the docket,
982
00:51:57,450 --> 00:51:59,610
while you were eating your
Thanksgiving turkey at home,
983
00:51:59,686 --> 00:52:02,522
Scott Peterson was
eating his behind bars,
984
00:52:02,622 --> 00:52:05,325
waiting for the penalty
phase of his trial to begin.
985
00:52:05,425 --> 00:52:07,927
Witnesses reminded the
jury the emotional toll
986
00:52:08,028 --> 00:52:10,597
a death verdict would
have on Scott's parents.
987
00:52:10,697 --> 00:52:13,166
The defense is hoping
for an ounce of sympathy
988
00:52:13,266 --> 00:52:15,335
peppered with lingering doubt.
989
00:52:15,435 --> 00:52:17,570
This afternoon, customers
gathered at the bar
990
00:52:17,671 --> 00:52:20,707
to watch the jury's
penalty decision on TV.
991
00:52:26,613 --> 00:52:29,549
After calling him cruel,
uncaring, and heartless,
992
00:52:29,649 --> 00:52:31,618
the judge in Scott
Peterson's murder trial
993
00:52:31,718 --> 00:52:33,586
sentenced him to death
for killing his wife,
994
00:52:33,687 --> 00:52:36,723
Laci, and their unborn child.
995
00:52:57,610 --> 00:53:00,547
This is a box of
letters and cards
996
00:53:00,647 --> 00:53:05,418
that was sent to our family,
mostly from 2003 to 2004.
997
00:53:05,518 --> 00:53:07,420
"You must be in so
much pain seeing
998
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,589
"your child going through this.
999
00:53:09,689 --> 00:53:12,292
"Your grief has to
be beyond words.
1000
00:53:12,392 --> 00:53:15,462
"You have lost a
daughter-in-law and a grandson.
1001
00:53:15,562 --> 00:53:18,298
"And your son is
facing challenges
1002
00:53:18,398 --> 00:53:20,900
"like he has never known.
1003
00:53:21,501 --> 00:53:26,740
"I cannot even comprehend
the pain you have to bear.
1004
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,542
"Hold on to each other
with all that you have.
1005
00:53:29,642 --> 00:53:31,845
Your strength will
pull you through."
1006
00:53:39,219 --> 00:53:40,487
"Dear Lee and Jackie,
1007
00:53:40,587 --> 00:53:43,289
"I realize that this
case did not involve
1008
00:53:43,390 --> 00:53:45,425
"just one family but two.
1009
00:53:45,525 --> 00:53:48,361
"I'm the mother of a
seven-year-old boy,
1010
00:53:48,461 --> 00:53:50,697
"and if I were in
your situation,
1011
00:53:50,797 --> 00:53:54,968
I would have stood by my
son, as you did yours."
1012
00:53:55,068 --> 00:53:56,536
Getting letters
like this really,
1013
00:53:56,636 --> 00:53:59,205
really did make the difference
1014
00:53:59,305 --> 00:54:01,775
and make us feel like
we weren't alone.
1015
00:54:01,875 --> 00:54:05,345
We... we thought the whole
world thought Scott was guilty,
1016
00:54:05,445 --> 00:54:08,648
but even to fill up
1017
00:54:08,748 --> 00:54:11,885
just a few boxes of
letters at that time
1018
00:54:11,985 --> 00:54:13,620
really made a big difference.
1019
00:54:15,488 --> 00:54:18,091
"Tonight, my heart is
filled with deep sadness.
1020
00:54:18,191 --> 00:54:21,528
"After watching so long to see
Scott go home with his family,
1021
00:54:21,628 --> 00:54:23,563
"your son did not
get a fair trial,
1022
00:54:23,663 --> 00:54:26,633
and there is no city in
the USA where he could."
1023
00:54:32,872 --> 00:54:35,742
Not long after his conviction,
1024
00:54:35,842 --> 00:54:38,411
as the dust settled,
1025
00:54:38,511 --> 00:54:40,580
everyone started to realize,
1026
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,117
this doesn't feel
like this is right.
1027
00:54:44,217 --> 00:54:47,287
This doesn't feel like it was
a powerful, compelling case.
1028
00:54:49,923 --> 00:54:51,691
There have always been
a lot of questions
1029
00:54:51,791 --> 00:54:55,662
about how, when, where, and why.
1030
00:54:55,762 --> 00:54:58,832
They were never answered
in the trial itself.
1031
00:54:58,932 --> 00:55:03,303
We depend upon the police
to turn over every stone
1032
00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:04,604
and to examine every clue.
1033
00:55:04,704 --> 00:55:06,806
If they don't do that,
1034
00:55:06,906 --> 00:55:09,476
if they disregard
every piece of evidence
1035
00:55:09,576 --> 00:55:10,753
that doesn't fit their theory,
1036
00:55:10,777 --> 00:55:12,946
then their conclusions
are gonna be tainted
1037
00:55:13,046 --> 00:55:14,046
and likely wrong.
1038
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,617
The Modesto Police
Department were absolutely
1039
00:55:17,717 --> 00:55:19,552
laser-focused on Scott
1040
00:55:19,652 --> 00:55:21,554
because they thought he did it.
1041
00:55:21,654 --> 00:55:23,790
There are a slew of eyewitnesses
1042
00:55:23,890 --> 00:55:26,960
who saw Laci Peterson
walking her dog
1043
00:55:27,060 --> 00:55:28,928
in and around the neighborhood.
1044
00:55:29,029 --> 00:55:32,298
There's probably 12 to
13 people that never had
1045
00:55:32,399 --> 00:55:33,943
a face-to-face interview
with a detective
1046
00:55:33,967 --> 00:55:35,702
while Laci was missing.
1047
00:55:35,802 --> 00:55:38,571
I have forever been
bothered by the fact
1048
00:55:38,672 --> 00:55:41,408
that the jury didn't hear
about those witnesses.
1049
00:55:41,508 --> 00:55:43,376
I've always believed
that the burglary
1050
00:55:43,476 --> 00:55:44,778
had something to do with it.
1051
00:55:44,878 --> 00:55:47,514
I think the police
decided very early on
1052
00:55:47,614 --> 00:55:49,916
that Scott was guilty.
1053
00:55:50,016 --> 00:55:53,453
And I think because of it, they
didn't effectively investigate
1054
00:55:53,553 --> 00:55:54,754
the Medina burglary.
1055
00:55:54,854 --> 00:55:56,890
The prosecution
position was at the time
1056
00:55:56,990 --> 00:55:59,292
that the burglary didn't
even happen on the day
1057
00:55:59,392 --> 00:56:00,593
of Laci's disappearance.
1058
00:56:00,694 --> 00:56:03,129
If that burglary happened
1059
00:56:03,229 --> 00:56:05,665
when Laci was around
and still alive,
1060
00:56:05,765 --> 00:56:09,369
it could not have
been a coincidence.
1061
00:56:09,469 --> 00:56:11,705
I don't think the police looked
1062
00:56:11,805 --> 00:56:15,675
at the burglary enough
to understand the tie-ins
1063
00:56:15,775 --> 00:56:17,911
to Laci's disappearance.
1064
00:56:18,011 --> 00:56:19,371
There's so much
reasonable doubt,
1065
00:56:19,446 --> 00:56:20,880
we're still talking
about it now.
1066
00:56:20,980 --> 00:56:23,883
There are so many instances
where there is evidence
1067
00:56:23,983 --> 00:56:26,853
that didn't fit the
detective's theory.
1068
00:56:26,953 --> 00:56:29,923
They just assumed she was dead.
1069
00:56:30,023 --> 00:56:32,659
Well, what if they
talked to these people,
1070
00:56:32,759 --> 00:56:33,903
and they found out where she was
1071
00:56:33,927 --> 00:56:35,628
and they learned
information from them
1072
00:56:35,729 --> 00:56:37,897
which could have
brought her home?
1073
00:56:41,368 --> 00:56:44,571
Here we are 20 years later
trying to piece this together.
1074
00:56:44,671 --> 00:56:47,707
I don't know that we ever felt
like we could look up and...
1075
00:56:47,807 --> 00:56:50,944
and see that light at
the end of the tunnel.
1076
00:56:51,044 --> 00:56:53,446
But to have the Los
Angeles Innocence Project
1077
00:56:53,546 --> 00:56:54,746
come on board and file motions
1078
00:56:54,781 --> 00:56:56,883
that are being
actively litigated,
1079
00:56:56,983 --> 00:56:58,651
I think it gives us great hope.
1080
00:56:58,752 --> 00:57:01,988
You know, the Los Angeles
Innocence Project believes
1081
00:57:02,088 --> 00:57:03,823
that there is a case here.
1082
00:57:03,923 --> 00:57:06,326
This isn't about one
side winning or losing.
1083
00:57:06,426 --> 00:57:07,327
This is about justice.
1084
00:57:07,427 --> 00:57:08,995
This is about the
fairness of a trial.
1085
00:57:09,095 --> 00:57:13,767
An innocent man has been
in jail for 20 years now.
1086
00:57:13,867 --> 00:57:17,470
And where is the
justice in that?
1087
00:57:17,570 --> 00:57:18,938
Somebody has to fight for him.
1088
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:21,274
People have fought
for him for years.
1089
00:57:21,374 --> 00:57:24,911
And now we've got a new
group fighting for him.
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