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[mechanical squealing]
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[tape clicking into drive]
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Wait, you taping me now?
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[Daniel] I'm sorry.
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[chuckles]
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[Daniel] Say something!
Anything!
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[laughing] What do
you want me to say?
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I'm out of words now.
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I already said what I said.
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[Daniel] [chuckling] Say
it all again one more time!
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Do you worry,
like, what this doc--
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I mean, you know...
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how this documentary is
gonna affect your life at all?
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No.
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[Daniel] You're not
bothered about that at all?
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No.
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I don't-- I mean, I
don't have nothin' to hide.
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There's nothin'
that I have to hide.
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[Daniel] Is that a new tattoo?
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I think this one might be
new, I know this one is new...
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and this one, and this one.
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I think I only had this one.
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[Daniel] What's
up with the hair?
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Low.
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No haircut but low.
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[Daniel] Lemme see.
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Uh-uh.
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Well...
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"aggressive"...
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I know I used to get
excited about that word,
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but, um, I just
don't wanna be labeled.
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[Daniel] So you're
really serious about it?
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You're, like, totally anti being
labeled "aggressive" anymore?
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I just don't wanna be a label.
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I don't-- I don't
wanna be labeled,
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I just...
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Just call me "Kisha," man.
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[laughing] Just call me "Kisha."
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♪exciting house
music slowly fades in♪
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I was raised in the street.
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♪♪♪
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I'm like a
motherfuckin' legend!
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[chuckles]
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You see me.
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[laughs]
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♪♪♪
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[Trevon VO]
'Cause I'm aggressive?
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That doesn't matter!
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Let me be feminine!
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[motorcycle rumbles]
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♪♪♪
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Salt and peppers and...
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[echoing] Bow!
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[camera beeps and snaps]
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Hey.
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[beeping and snapping
continues]
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[Kisha VO] One Christmas,
I bought myself a camera,
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and I just fell in love
with photography instantly.
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I taught myself how to shoot.
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And I realized,
you know, that's it!
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I wanna share what I see.
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I want you to see the
beauty in it as well.
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Smile a little bit,
'cause you got nice teeth!
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-[shutter snap]
-[laughter]
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[Kisha VO] I have so
many queer friends,
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so many trans-masculine
and non-binary friends,
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and I decided I wanted to
make a new series of portraits.
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Oh, that's beautiful.
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I like that.
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[Kisha VO] And I wanted to
start with the BIPOC folks,
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who are still
really underrepresented.
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♪uplifting piano music♪
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I also wanted to meet the
younger generation and see who
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they are,
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and how they were
impacted by our first film.
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[camera beeps and snaps]
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[Äscen VO] When I first
saw the documentary
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'The Aggressives,' I finally
saw a representation of me.
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I actually appreciated the
rawness because it allows for
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evolution.
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Seeing that
representation, for me,
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opened up a door.
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♪♪♪
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I don't wanna be boxed in.
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My masculinity is mine to make.
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For me, masculinity is not about
being society's definition of a
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man, but about being in
harmony with my femininity.
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♪♪♪
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The first time I
saw 'The Aggressives,'
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I was a freshman in an
all-female Black college.
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I instantly felt connected,
because I always felt like I was
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extremely different
from everyone else,
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and then seeing
the film and saying,
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"Whoa.
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You're not different."
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That film is what really helped
me kick off my transition,
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feel comfortable in changing
the way I was presenting,
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and just carrying
myself in confidence.
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[Kisha] Wha-- oh my God!
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[En'b VO] We have always been
looking for people who reflect
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us and look like us.
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I'm very thankful.
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I consider all the people in
'The Aggressives' to be my
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"trans-cestors."
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Just their
existence was affirming.
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Because they have existed and
lived through their experiences
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and have gone
through their adversities,
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I'm able to be
more free in my body.
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♪♪♪
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[Ayanna VO] I feel like "AG"
or "an aggressive" is kind of a
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dated term.
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The language has changed and
some of the stuff that was in
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'The Aggressives'
originally might not correlate,
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like, with how someone
like me would identify.
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The one who I identified the
most with was probably Kisha.
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I thought she was
absolutely beautiful,
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but still able to own her
masculinity without having to
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compromise who she is.
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[Kisha] See, even that's
cool, you know what I'm saying?
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-[Ayanna] Yeah, yeah.
-[Kisha] 'Cause you're just
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doin' you, you're being you.
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Exactly.
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♪♪♪
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[Kisha VO] This series
is close to my heart.
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I see myself in
all of their faces.
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I wanted to
capture their strength,
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and grace, as human beings,
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and show you how to see
past the labels and the tags.
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[camera snapping]
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See, 'cause they are me,
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and I am them,
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and we are you.
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♪♪♪
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All right, I'ma
hit you up in, like,
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a half an hour, and
I'ma come link with y'all.
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All right.
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[Daniel] Just like
in the old movie!
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I'm getting flashbacks, too!
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It's like...
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super strange.
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[woman] Wassup?!
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[Kisha VO] Her
eyes were like summer!
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[chuckles]
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[indistinct] to you.
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Don't wear it out.
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[Kisha VO] There's a thing
called "femme aggressive,"
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and that's what I considered
myself when I was younger.
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And it's probably still what
I would consider myself now.
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-[camera snapping]
-[woman] Good.
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[Kisha VO] But personally,
I'm not really into the labels
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anymore.
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After the first film, I
kinda got stuck with the tag,
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because that was just the
time and the film and...
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But I think, like, now,
we've all kind of outgrown those
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labels, you know?
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I think I came out
a little bit cocky,
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and I kinda was, 'cause
I was young and crazy,
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and now, it's grown
from being, like,
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cocky to, like, confident
and understanding life and
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experiencing life.
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I'm still the same person, I'm
just-- I don't have so much of a
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six pack.
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I feel like I had a
six pack back then.
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I might have like a two pack.
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My weight kinda
fluctuates 'cause I'm older.
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Through the years, you
know, I've had difficult times.
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I mean, everybody
has difficult times,
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good times, bad times.
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'Cause there was parts of that
film that I was very vulnerable,
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because I was still so young
when we finally released it and
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showed it around the world.
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And it made me emotional to see
all the things that other people
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in the film went
through, you know what I mean?
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And it made me
feel like, "Wow,
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we need to support
each other more."
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Everybody should be
helping each other.
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You don't have to be
from someone's community,
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you could be walking past.
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If somebody's laying down
on the floor with a cut,
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yo, look for a t-shirt, take
the t-shirt off your back!
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Since the film, I
spread my wings.
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Worked on a couple
different independent films,
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couple television shows,
couple of Spike Lee films.
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Art, acting...
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I mean, sometimes, that's
what you gotta do as a creative,
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you know?
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I'm hustlin' and bustlin'.
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I have a 1964 Dream 305,
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and then I have a TMAX with
a Yoshimura pipe on there,
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I have a Honda Reflex,
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and I have a Can-Am Spyder.
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That's my latest baby, 'cause
the trunk on a Can-Am Spyder,
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you could put a newborn
baby and a weekend bag
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and we're outta here.
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♪smooth funky music♪
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Approaching my 40-year mark,
I feel like I've been reborn.
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I feel just as happy as I
was when we did the first
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documentary.
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Sometimes I'm dating women and
they act like they've never seen
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the documentary, and
then they're like,
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"Oh, you're a player!"
and I'm....
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And then, eventually, I find out
that they saw the documentary,
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and I'm like, "You know that
was like 100 years ago, right?
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Like, and I was a
child, and I was single,
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and I was living my life."
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I usually have a
special woman in my life.
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Almost all the time.
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'Cause I'm a one-woman woman.
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I'm not
necessarily a player,
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but I like to be free.
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[engine rumbles]
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Since the first film,
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I've grown.
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I've learned to not have so
much expectations in life and,
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um...
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to work through things
with patience and love.
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And to really, like, never
take moments for granted.
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In the first film, the thing
that connected all the cast
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members was that they were
all assigned-female-at-birth
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people of color with
masculine presentation.
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But the character I identified
with the most was Trevon because
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I feel like they embodied
both masculine and feminine
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characteristics.
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The late '90s/early 2000s,
there wasn't really language to
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describe what that was.
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♪ethereal R&B music♪
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[Trevon VO] To be honest,
when 'The Aggressives' came out,
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I didn't think that it would...
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become what it was.
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I didn't think that people in my
neighborhood and stuff like that
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would see it, so...
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I was embarrassed
of my lifestyle.
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It's 3 o'clock!
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Run around and be me.
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[Trevon VO] I was young.
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I was just headed
down the wrong path.
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It wasn't too many good things
in my future if I kept doing the
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same things that I was doing.
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It makes you wanna
change something.
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So, one day, I
sat in my house --
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the one that you
filmed me at last.
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I told myself that there was
just some things that I needed
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to work on.
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♪♪♪
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I started writing
down some goals --
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you know, GED, college,
work, name change.
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It took a while.
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Three years
later, I had my GED,
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I was in a better
living situation,
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changed my name.
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'The Aggressives'
helped me evolve.
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It pushed me.
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When people started hitting me
up and telling me that I changed
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their lives, you know, that--
that was a really big thing for
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me, and that is why I still live
my life in a unapologetic way.
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These days, I don't consider
myself to be an aggressive,
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mainly because I think of-- when
I hear somebody say a "AG" or
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"aggressive," I think
of an aggressive female.
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I consider myself to be male.
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I know I'm not a
cisgender male --
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I wasn't assigned, you know,
that gender at birth --
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but I'm a transgender male.
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I think I've always
been a trans man,
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I just didn't know
the terminology,
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so I just stuck with the fact
that I was an "aggressive" --
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you know, a "AG" -- because
that's what I was taught.
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You know, when I look at other
trans guys and I see that they
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have the full
facial hair, you know,
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the full beard, or they
have their top surgery,
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or they're...
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swole up, you
know, I tell myself,
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"First of all, not
every man is like that."
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Overall, I'm probably more
considered "non-binary."
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But I'm not really sure.
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I mean, I still have an
insecurity with my chest.
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I don't want them
there, I don't like them,
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I want a flatter
appearance, for sure,
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but with the scars, I'm
gonna be-- I'm gonna feel
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uncomfortable.
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That makes me think, like,
what's the point of going from
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one uncomfortable
state to another?
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I call it like a
spiritual warfare,
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'cause I fight with myself
probably almost every day,
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with the bordering or the
straddling of the fence.
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Why change myself for people?
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'The Aggressives'
showed me a side of myself,
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um, that I may not
have been as aware of.
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I did connect with Octavio --
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how unapologetically
queer they were.
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"This is who I am.
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If you have a problem with
it, get out of my face."
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[Octavio VO] When I
watch 'The Aggressives,'
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I see my growth.
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I was like, what, 18 years old?
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So, it do remind me of things
that I don't wanna go back to.
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It's like a lesson learned.
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Things was
difficult for me back then.
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So this is-- it's like a whole
story with me where you young,
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you in a group home, and you in
the street and things like that,
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your parents is on drugs, and
you gotta fight for yourself.
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21 years later.
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I'm always gonna be aggressive.
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I am the dude.
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I am that man.
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I am that motherfuckin' fly guy.
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[Daniel VO] Do you feel like
your identity has changed at all
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since the last
time we filmed you?
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[Octavio VO] I think so.
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If I had a choice
to change my gender,
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I would.
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You know how many
friends I know that's men now?
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A lot.
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I'm, like, still
stagnated in this.
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The reason why I don't change my
gender is because I have a son.
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I'm probably the only one out
of my friends that have a kid.
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You understand?
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And I didn't have a kid...
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like I willingly wanted a kid.
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I was 15 when it happened.
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That's something that...
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I don't even wanna, like,
have a conversation about.
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If it wasn't for my
son, I would be trans.
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I don't want him to have to deal
with society judging him for who
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his parent is.
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My aunt adopted him when I was
younger because I didn't have a
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choice at that time.
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It was difficult.
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Being that she had adopted
him, and she knew my lifestyle,
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she said, "Don't come by here.
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If you come by here,
I'ma call the cops."
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I already had a criminal record.
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If I go by there, it's
like I'm harassing them.
333
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When she passed away is when
our relationship got closer.
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He thought that, like, I didn't
want nothing to do with him,
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so I had to explain all
of that stuff to him.
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I wanna live different.
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You think I wanna
die in the hood,
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go to jail in the hood,
with my rest of a life?
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00:17:05,065 --> 00:17:06,858
Hell no, man!
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I want a fuckin' house with a
motherfuckin' boat and go out
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there and mind my
motherfuckin' business;
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that's how I wanna live.
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Just last year, I--
I cut my hair off,
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and, uh...
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a lot of people have
been calling me "sir,"
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and I kinda like
the confusion that...
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I cause people.
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I think the way the
people in the first film,
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'The Aggressives,'
said it was:
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"I am me; this is who I am."
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I'm just excited to see
what happened with Chin.
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♪ominous ethereal music♪
353
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[ringing]
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[automated voice] Hello,
this is a prepaid collect call
355
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from...
356
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[Chin over phone] Chin.
357
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[automated voice] An
inmate at the Irwin County Jail.
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♪♪♪
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[Chin over phone]
Hello?
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00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:03,916
[Daniel over phone]
Oh my God, Chin...
361
00:18:03,957 --> 00:18:04,458
[Chin over phone]
What's up?
362
00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:06,376
[Daniel over phone]
How are you?
363
00:18:36,990 --> 00:18:39,118
[loud clanking]
364
00:18:39,159 --> 00:18:42,287
[Daniel over phone]
How are you mentally doing?
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00:18:46,333 --> 00:18:48,168
[coughing]
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But...
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00:18:49,169 --> 00:18:50,921
[coughs loudly]
368
00:18:54,508 --> 00:18:56,426
[Daniel over phone]
Oh, boy...
369
00:19:02,015 --> 00:19:05,102
[automated voice] This call will
be terminated in one minute.
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♪♪♪
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[Kisha VO] I was
born in the Bronx,
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I was raised in Brooklyn, and
what I say is that I grew up in
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Harlem.
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00:19:43,223 --> 00:19:45,142
Let's get a Spanish coffee.
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00:19:45,893 --> 00:19:47,227
[door jingles]
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00:19:47,269 --> 00:19:49,855
♪upbeat bachata playing♪
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[Kisha VO] I've been in
Harlem since my late teens.
378
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This is where I had
my first apartment,
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00:19:55,736 --> 00:19:58,864
and this is where
I've been ever since.
380
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Harlem got flavor,
almost like Hollywood.
381
00:20:02,409 --> 00:20:04,369
There's a certain swag.
382
00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:07,206
You like my tattoo of Jesus?
383
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Thank you.
384
00:20:08,457 --> 00:20:09,416
[man] Nice!
385
00:20:09,458 --> 00:20:11,001
Thank you.
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00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:14,379
[Kisha VO] I got back in touch
with my father after being
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with my mother for
many, many years.
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He was Christian, and he
tried to give me a speech
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about my sexuality.
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00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,266
Like, "Oh, the Bible says
this, and the Bible says that."
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That's not the way
I read the Bible,
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and that's not the way
I grew up spiritually.
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It really was
believing in God,
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believing a higher power,
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helping others...
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It was instilled
in me from my mom.
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[Melissa VO] As a little girl,
Kisha was always on the go,
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always wanted to
experience things.
399
00:20:49,289 --> 00:20:51,583
She loved the outdoors.
400
00:20:51,625 --> 00:20:53,460
Very curious.
401
00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:55,921
She was very strong-minded.
402
00:20:55,963 --> 00:20:58,257
She was more boyish.
403
00:20:58,298 --> 00:21:02,135
As a mom, you're always putting
cute dresses on little girls,
404
00:21:02,177 --> 00:21:04,930
and it got to the point where
Kisha didn't wanna wear dresses
405
00:21:04,972 --> 00:21:06,431
anymore.
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00:21:06,473 --> 00:21:09,393
So I said, "Okay, so
we'll go for the pants."
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00:21:10,978 --> 00:21:14,273
[Kisha VO] A lot of my family
was involved in the church.
408
00:21:14,314 --> 00:21:18,277
I didn't see any kind of...
409
00:21:18,318 --> 00:21:20,904
same-sex love.
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00:21:21,196 --> 00:21:26,285
So for me, it was
trying to understand me
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and what I was feeling.
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[subway clattering]
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[Melissa VO] She
started getting very angry and
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00:21:34,501 --> 00:21:36,795
rebellious, and...
415
00:21:37,087 --> 00:21:42,259
I got a call from her school
that she was up on the roof...
416
00:21:42,676 --> 00:21:46,138
threatening to commit suicide...
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00:21:46,179 --> 00:21:47,973
and that they had
called the cops,
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and they were gonna
take her to the hospital.
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00:21:51,393 --> 00:21:55,647
The social worker said to Kisha,
"Tell Mom what's the problem."
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And she said, "I'm gay."
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I said, "Okay.
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You are who you are.
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You're my daughter."
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Finding out, it
opened up my heart.
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00:22:09,911 --> 00:22:12,831
She started not being
so angry all the time.
426
00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:15,834
[Kisha and Melissa laugh]
427
00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:18,962
We just started getting closer.
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00:22:19,379 --> 00:22:22,883
I loved her for who
she was, and I still do.
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She's come a long way, and she's
accomplished a lot of things
430
00:22:27,387 --> 00:22:29,848
that she wanted
to accomplish...
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her way.
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♪tender ethereal music♪
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Which I'm also very proud of.
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♪♪♪
435
00:22:37,439 --> 00:22:39,024
Ahh!
436
00:22:39,066 --> 00:22:41,735
[pigeons coo and flutter]
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00:22:41,777 --> 00:22:46,865
[coyotes bark and howl]
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[Trevon VO] It's quiet, there's
no New York City traffic,
439
00:22:50,744 --> 00:22:53,830
there's no horn honking.
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It's just peaceful.
441
00:22:56,083 --> 00:22:58,168
[dog barking]
442
00:23:00,295 --> 00:23:04,049
I like to just be out
here in Joshua Tree,
443
00:23:04,091 --> 00:23:07,219
about 45 minutes away from home.
444
00:23:07,928 --> 00:23:12,265
We moved to Palm Springs because
of how open it is to the LGBT
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community.
446
00:23:17,604 --> 00:23:19,564
[Jade VO] Well, right now,
we're doing food delivery and
447
00:23:19,606 --> 00:23:22,692
stuff, still trying
to figure it out.
448
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:28,573
[Trevon VO] I met Jade in 2013,
downtown in the city at a club
449
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called Esquilita's.
450
00:23:31,326 --> 00:23:34,579
Jade had one of her,
uh, buddies approach me
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and ask me if I liked girls.
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00:23:36,123 --> 00:23:37,749
[both laugh]
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00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:39,876
Because of the film.
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[Jade VO] I got to
know him through the film.
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He was into transgender females,
so I didn't know if he was still
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into cisgenders.
457
00:23:50,846 --> 00:23:52,097
Because I'm not trans,
458
00:23:52,139 --> 00:23:54,599
that's why I had my
friend approach him.
459
00:23:55,475 --> 00:23:58,311
I always get asked am I trans,
460
00:23:58,353 --> 00:23:59,771
and I don't take
no offense to it,
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because I think trans
women are beautiful.
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♪tender synth music♪
463
00:24:03,483 --> 00:24:05,777
-So our first date was ac--
-Was it the steakhouse?
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00:24:05,819 --> 00:24:07,279
No-- oh, yeah, our
first dinner date.
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00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:07,737
Or was it church?
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00:24:07,737 --> 00:24:08,363
[in unison]
It was church.
467
00:24:08,363 --> 00:24:10,615
-Yeah, that's what I was-- yeah.
-It was church.
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00:24:10,657 --> 00:24:11,575
♪♪♪
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[Trevon VO] I fell in love.
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We've kind of been
together ever since.
471
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[Jade VO] Trevon is the
first trans guy I ever dated,
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so it was something
just really new to me.
473
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He's very charming and sexy.
474
00:24:25,672 --> 00:24:29,301
Before that, I was
dating aggressive females.
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I did identify as
being a lesbian,
476
00:24:31,678 --> 00:24:34,973
and now, he says he's
non-binary now, so...
477
00:24:35,015 --> 00:24:37,017
I think our relationship
is just our relationship.
478
00:24:37,058 --> 00:24:40,145
I don't really put "lesbian"
or "straight" on there.
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00:24:40,187 --> 00:24:42,981
Like, it's just us, so...
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♪♪♪
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[Trevon VO] When
I first came out,
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I think like most trans guys,
I identified as an, uh...
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as an aggressive female
in the lesbian community,
484
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especially because, you know,
"trans" wasn't really a thing.
485
00:24:57,787 --> 00:25:01,958
I don't even know if I wanna
consider myself "non-binary."
486
00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:04,961
I just don't want
these stereotypes.
487
00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:06,546
Let me just be who I wanna be.
488
00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:08,381
Let me be the
individual I wanna be.
489
00:25:08,423 --> 00:25:10,008
If I don't wanna
play basketball,
490
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I don't wanna play basketball.
491
00:25:11,426 --> 00:25:13,637
If I don't wanna, uh...
492
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sit on the wall during
the club and I wanna...
493
00:25:18,058 --> 00:25:22,062
do a [laughing] one-two switch,
let me do my one-two switch!
494
00:25:22,103 --> 00:25:24,648
You know, what's the problem?
495
00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:29,528
Even Jade still expects
different things from me
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00:25:29,569 --> 00:25:33,532
sometimes, because she
looks at me as a man,
497
00:25:33,573 --> 00:25:35,825
and I think that
that's not fair.
498
00:25:37,077 --> 00:25:39,996
It's a touchy topic
for her sometimes.
499
00:25:40,288 --> 00:25:44,709
Jade and I moved out here
because I had really messed up
500
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in our relationship.
501
00:25:47,587 --> 00:25:48,547
I, um...
502
00:25:48,588 --> 00:25:50,090
I cheated,
503
00:25:50,131 --> 00:25:52,092
and I think that...
504
00:25:52,133 --> 00:25:55,011
we just needed a fresh start.
505
00:25:55,637 --> 00:25:58,890
I just couldn't see
myself without being with him.
506
00:25:58,932 --> 00:26:01,226
I'm about to get emotional.
507
00:26:01,268 --> 00:26:02,852
[softly] That's all right.
508
00:26:04,771 --> 00:26:06,356
[kiss]
509
00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:08,567
[Jade sniffles]
510
00:26:08,608 --> 00:26:11,528
[Jade VO] I just
realized how much I loved him.
511
00:26:12,821 --> 00:26:14,906
I mean, we ain't
dealt with a lot of stuff.
512
00:26:14,948 --> 00:26:17,117
We kinda left it
back in New York.
513
00:26:17,158 --> 00:26:20,787
♪♪♪
514
00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:24,541
[Jade VO] Once we get
stable, we wanna have kids.
515
00:26:24,624 --> 00:26:26,585
We're looking into
freezing his eggs.
516
00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:28,086
[Trevon VO] I'm 36.
517
00:26:28,128 --> 00:26:31,089
[Jade VO] And I'm 32,
so I can carry his child,
518
00:26:31,131 --> 00:26:33,258
so we wanna do one and one.
519
00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:37,220
It's just a lot with
that, with money and stuff.
520
00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:39,222
And then getting married.
521
00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:41,099
In like two year-- right?
522
00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:43,602
-In two-- in two years?
-Yeah, I hope so, yeah.
523
00:26:43,643 --> 00:26:45,395
I hope so.
524
00:26:58,992 --> 00:26:59,492
[Daniel] Some bug spray.
525
00:26:59,534 --> 00:27:00,285
Oh, yeah, I was
about to say, please,
526
00:27:00,327 --> 00:27:04,414
they trying-- the bees trying to
eat me and everything over here.
527
00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:07,459
[Daniel] I mean, I
would never have thought,
528
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:10,003
the last time I
interviewed you back in the day,
529
00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:14,799
that I would be
interviewing you by a pond.
530
00:27:14,841 --> 00:27:16,801
[laughs]
531
00:27:16,843 --> 00:27:17,802
Daniel...
532
00:27:17,844 --> 00:27:19,179
Oh, God...
533
00:27:19,220 --> 00:27:20,805
[Daniel chuckles]
534
00:27:20,847 --> 00:27:24,601
When I get home
from work, I sit here.
535
00:27:24,809 --> 00:27:27,771
I enjoy this
because it's peaceful.
536
00:27:28,063 --> 00:27:31,816
When you're younger, you
do foolish things, and...
537
00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:35,487
the foolish things left
me to being incarcerated,
538
00:27:35,528 --> 00:27:38,657
and at some type of
point in my life,
539
00:27:38,698 --> 00:27:39,991
I've had to think, like,
540
00:27:40,033 --> 00:27:42,827
"Okay, well, do I wanna
keep going back to prison?
541
00:27:42,869 --> 00:27:43,411
No.
542
00:27:43,411 --> 00:27:45,664
I wanna actually
enjoy my life, be free,
543
00:27:45,705 --> 00:27:48,500
don't have to look over my back,
worrying about the police or
544
00:27:48,541 --> 00:27:51,878
people after me because of the
foolish things I was doing."
545
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,506
That's what made me wanna go
back to school and continue
546
00:27:54,547 --> 00:27:57,634
education and to do
better for myself.
547
00:27:58,176 --> 00:28:01,221
I went to Hudson Valley
Community College for my degree
548
00:28:01,262 --> 00:28:03,848
in electrical
construction and maintenance.
549
00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:06,351
I'm a mechanic
maintenance worker.
550
00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:12,857
Back then, I wanted to be
around a whole bunch of noise.
551
00:28:14,567 --> 00:28:19,656
Now, where I'm like of middle
age and I wanna just relax.
552
00:28:19,948 --> 00:28:22,367
That's why I
decided to move up here.
553
00:28:22,409 --> 00:28:27,497
♪cool jazzy hip-hop♪
554
00:28:31,251 --> 00:28:33,086
♪Lights♪
555
00:28:33,128 --> 00:28:35,714
♪Camera, action...♪
556
00:28:35,755 --> 00:28:38,717
I stopped taking my hormone
therapy when I moved out here,
557
00:28:38,758 --> 00:28:40,885
'cause they didn't
have no service out here.
558
00:28:40,927 --> 00:28:44,514
This year is the year that they
actually started that service.
559
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,184
I take my
injections once a week.
560
00:28:48,935 --> 00:28:49,769
I'm changing, Daniel!
561
00:28:49,811 --> 00:28:51,396
I'm getting little hairs.
562
00:28:51,438 --> 00:28:53,106
I'm starting to slim
down, I've noticed.
563
00:28:53,148 --> 00:28:56,359
My face and stuff is starting
to get a little bit masculine.
564
00:28:58,778 --> 00:29:01,781
I believe the reason why I
didn't come out on the first
565
00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:05,577
documentary as me being a trans
man is because of my family;
566
00:29:05,618 --> 00:29:08,413
I was so young when you was
interviewing me and I was living
567
00:29:08,455 --> 00:29:11,958
with family, so I didn't wanna
have that problem where I would
568
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,210
have to be homeless...
569
00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:17,088
because of who I am.
570
00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:18,465
♪♪♪
571
00:29:18,506 --> 00:29:21,134
There's never a time where --
ever! --
572
00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:24,596
that I ever felt like a woman.
573
00:29:25,805 --> 00:29:28,892
I never wanted to
have breasts, never.
574
00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:32,812
I'm hunched, and my spine is
starting to shift [indistinct]
575
00:29:32,854 --> 00:29:34,981
because they're so heavy.
576
00:29:35,023 --> 00:29:38,985
I heard about top surgery, but
I didn't have the funds to...
577
00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:41,070
actually do that.
578
00:29:42,363 --> 00:29:45,283
I have to pay for
that out of pocket.
579
00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:50,914
My whole life I had to
deal with this, so...
580
00:29:51,122 --> 00:29:53,583
I want to get rid of them.
581
00:29:54,292 --> 00:29:57,337
Then I can actually be who I
wanna be and who I need to be
582
00:29:57,378 --> 00:30:00,256
for myself -- who I should be.
583
00:30:09,349 --> 00:30:14,437
♪tense hopeful music♪
584
00:30:18,691 --> 00:30:20,485
[Earnest VO] I agreed to
take Chin's case because,
585
00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:22,111
when I watched
'The Aggressives,'
586
00:30:22,153 --> 00:30:25,365
I was able to connect to
Chin on more of a human level,
587
00:30:25,406 --> 00:30:28,368
and I realized that Chin's
experiences as a trans man were
588
00:30:28,409 --> 00:30:31,663
of historical significance
to the LGBT community.
589
00:30:31,704 --> 00:30:34,999
So, I think I was moved to try
to see a little bit of hope in
590
00:30:35,041 --> 00:30:38,002
his case, where I think other
attorneys may have seen it as
591
00:30:38,044 --> 00:30:39,796
a done deal.
592
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,174
He came here when
he was nine years old
593
00:30:43,216 --> 00:30:44,884
with the rest of his family.
594
00:30:44,926 --> 00:30:47,804
They entered as legal
permanent residents.
595
00:30:49,097 --> 00:30:51,850
When he was young, he
was living as a lesbian.
596
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,521
He was living with his
grandmother and had a girl over.
597
00:30:56,813 --> 00:30:59,190
His grandma flipped out,
put his stuff in trash bags,
598
00:30:59,232 --> 00:31:02,652
and put him and his
belongings out on the curb.
599
00:31:03,152 --> 00:31:07,198
Then, he ends up joining
thousands of other LGBT youth
600
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,326
who were living
homeless in New York City.
601
00:31:11,911 --> 00:31:16,207
Around this same time, he
loses his ID and green card.
602
00:31:16,249 --> 00:31:19,544
Immigration confuses
his with somebody else's,
603
00:31:19,586 --> 00:31:22,380
and he's not able
to get it reissued.
604
00:31:43,151 --> 00:31:45,904
So he resorts to, you know,
some kind of survival:
605
00:31:45,945 --> 00:31:46,738
crime.
606
00:31:46,779 --> 00:31:50,283
There are various points where
he's incarcerated in one state
607
00:31:50,325 --> 00:31:52,035
or another.
608
00:31:52,243 --> 00:31:55,079
That's why, in 2016, you
know, he's-- he's kind of-- uh,
609
00:31:55,121 --> 00:31:57,248
he got his life turned around.
610
00:31:57,290 --> 00:32:02,378
♪♪♪
611
00:32:13,514 --> 00:32:15,600
[Earnest VO] He has this
employee that says, you know,
612
00:32:15,642 --> 00:32:17,602
"I got this friend
that works at the DMV,
613
00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:20,730
and she can get you an ID."
614
00:32:21,147 --> 00:32:24,442
So he ends up forging his
own social security card,
615
00:32:24,484 --> 00:32:27,320
and she issues
him the ID, right?
616
00:32:27,362 --> 00:32:29,155
And so for...
617
00:32:29,197 --> 00:32:31,991
about two months,
actually, you know, he's...
618
00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:32,575
doing great.
619
00:32:32,575 --> 00:32:34,285
You know, for the
first time in, like,
620
00:32:34,327 --> 00:32:36,955
20 years, you know,
he legally exists,
621
00:32:36,996 --> 00:32:39,165
he's on the books,
he's paying taxes,
622
00:32:39,207 --> 00:32:40,959
he's happy.
623
00:32:42,001 --> 00:32:44,462
And then, early 2017,
624
00:32:44,504 --> 00:32:47,465
the Sheriff and ICE come
knocking at the door.
625
00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:52,595
♪tense ethereal music♪
626
00:33:00,186 --> 00:33:03,272
They've been holding him since.
627
00:33:03,564 --> 00:33:07,610
He's been in solitary
for well over a year now.
628
00:33:07,902 --> 00:33:11,656
This is simply
because he's transgender,
629
00:33:11,698 --> 00:33:12,865
period.
630
00:33:12,907 --> 00:33:15,827
♪♪♪
631
00:33:15,868 --> 00:33:19,831
They're doing this to try to
force him to give up his case
632
00:33:19,872 --> 00:33:22,458
and to self-deport.
633
00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:26,212
There's no way that
that is constitutional.
634
00:33:26,254 --> 00:33:31,342
♪♪♪
635
00:33:56,909 --> 00:34:00,496
[Kisha VO] Art has been my
life from the beginning of time.
636
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,541
This is actually the first time
in my life where I fell in love
637
00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:05,710
with a process that I
feel like I can never fall
638
00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:07,879
out of love with.
639
00:34:08,045 --> 00:34:12,007
I always loved textures
and working with my hands.
640
00:34:16,262 --> 00:34:19,849
[Kisha] The black takes
really nice into the wood.
641
00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:25,897
[Kisha VO]
Sometimes I add paint,
642
00:34:25,938 --> 00:34:31,069
sometimes I wood-burn, sometimes
I carve things into the images.
643
00:34:31,277 --> 00:34:34,197
There's spray paint
on some of these.
644
00:34:37,449 --> 00:34:39,619
It seems like it's
really simple; it's not.
645
00:34:39,659 --> 00:34:42,914
It's super tedious,
it's super sensitive,
646
00:34:42,955 --> 00:34:44,081
super...
647
00:34:44,123 --> 00:34:45,917
complicated.
648
00:34:45,958 --> 00:34:48,585
But I've learned
to-- to love it.
649
00:34:48,628 --> 00:34:52,422
♪cool R&B music♪
650
00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:55,467
[Kisha VO] I call this series
"A Gentleman Never Tells."
651
00:34:55,510 --> 00:35:00,389
It's a series of ex-lovers that
I've had intimate moments with.
652
00:35:01,015 --> 00:35:04,310
I think the thing between
two people learning each other
653
00:35:04,352 --> 00:35:05,978
is beautiful.
654
00:35:06,020 --> 00:35:07,939
♪♪♪
655
00:35:07,980 --> 00:35:09,607
So, I'm the
gentleman that never tells,
656
00:35:09,649 --> 00:35:12,944
and that's why they're images
that you don't see straight-up.
657
00:35:13,319 --> 00:35:17,406
My art allows me to
savor these moments.
658
00:35:17,698 --> 00:35:21,953
It allows me to also move on a
little easier if-- if it's not
659
00:35:21,994 --> 00:35:24,247
the greatest break-up.
660
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,625
I used to get hurt a lot.
661
00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:30,128
I used to fall in love a lot.
662
00:35:30,169 --> 00:35:32,130
'Cause I love beautiful women!
663
00:35:32,171 --> 00:35:35,133
And that's how I
ended up making this art!
664
00:35:35,508 --> 00:35:39,137
I would love to be in a
relationship and settle down.
665
00:35:39,178 --> 00:35:41,681
Actually, I would prefer be in
a foreign country somewhere in
666
00:35:41,722 --> 00:35:45,309
love with a complete stranger,
but I wouldn't mind being
667
00:35:45,351 --> 00:35:48,354
committed, and I
wouldn't mind falling in love,
668
00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:50,481
and I wouldn't mind it
being temporary either,
669
00:35:50,523 --> 00:35:52,817
because the
temporary moments, I think,
670
00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:55,695
is what gives life to this work.
671
00:35:55,736 --> 00:36:00,491
♪♪♪
672
00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:02,994
Art has always been my first
love -- my mother will tell you
673
00:36:03,035 --> 00:36:04,662
-- since a child.
674
00:36:05,037 --> 00:36:07,790
I feel like my art is
for everyone, really.
675
00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:11,836
I socialize with
all types of people.
676
00:36:12,712 --> 00:36:15,173
I travel with an open heart.
677
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:18,634
I could learn
something from everyone.
678
00:36:20,261 --> 00:36:24,473
By sharing your story, that's
how you bring people together.
679
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,897
I like to go to
where the party is,
680
00:36:30,938 --> 00:36:35,484
and I like to come
home in quiet and peace.
681
00:36:37,069 --> 00:36:41,532
I've grown to
appreciate my solo time more;
682
00:36:41,574 --> 00:36:43,367
I really do.
683
00:36:44,118 --> 00:36:45,828
[camera snaps]
684
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:51,209
I just wanna create
art, love, be loved,
685
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:55,046
take care of my animals,
take care of my family,
686
00:36:55,087 --> 00:36:57,673
share my life with the world.
687
00:36:58,758 --> 00:37:00,843
The hell?!
688
00:37:01,594 --> 00:37:06,682
[dogs growling]
689
00:37:09,769 --> 00:37:13,731
[Trevon VO] When my mom died,
my aunt was my second mother.
690
00:37:16,442 --> 00:37:17,735
She did take me in.
691
00:37:17,777 --> 00:37:19,570
She changed my life a lot.
692
00:37:19,862 --> 00:37:21,239
Oh, my name is Greta Allen.
693
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,617
I'm a 76-year-old young lady.
694
00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:26,285
[laughs] How you like that one?
695
00:37:26,327 --> 00:37:26,911
-You're my aunt!
-Oh!
696
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:31,457
My-- I'm Tr-- uh,
Trevon's mother's sister.
697
00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:33,876
She was the greatest.
698
00:37:34,669 --> 00:37:36,921
[Trevon] This is my mom.
699
00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:40,258
My mom passed
away when I was 13.
700
00:37:40,549 --> 00:37:42,093
[Greta VO] She was
going with this guy,
701
00:37:42,134 --> 00:37:44,303
and he had the virus,
702
00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:46,722
and she didn't know it.
703
00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:49,767
AIDS, that's how she passed.
704
00:37:49,809 --> 00:37:52,103
[Trevon] I wanted it to be in a
spot where everybody could see
705
00:37:52,144 --> 00:37:53,896
my mom.
706
00:37:54,981 --> 00:37:57,275
[Greta VO] When
his mother passed,
707
00:37:57,316 --> 00:37:59,443
I was right there for him.
708
00:37:59,485 --> 00:38:00,778
We used to do a lot
of things together:
709
00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:02,780
play together, play
basketball together,
710
00:38:02,822 --> 00:38:04,323
you know, different things.
711
00:38:04,365 --> 00:38:05,950
But we was always together.
712
00:38:05,992 --> 00:38:08,119
When Trevon was young, right?
713
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,997
She always told me, she says,
"I wanna be like you one day."
714
00:38:11,038 --> 00:38:12,790
I never knew what
she was talking about.
715
00:38:12,832 --> 00:38:14,292
What he was talking about.
716
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:16,460
[both laugh]
717
00:38:16,502 --> 00:38:20,256
I just loved it, you know,
because we could relate!
718
00:38:22,341 --> 00:38:25,761
Me and my wife, we've
been together for 21 years.
719
00:38:26,053 --> 00:38:28,806
Never broke up, I
never cheated on her,
720
00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:30,641
and I love her to death.
721
00:38:30,683 --> 00:38:33,978
Love is a very
important thing, you know?
722
00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:38,524
And I'm proud of who I am,
even though I'm gay as hell.
723
00:38:38,566 --> 00:38:39,650
I don't care what people think.
724
00:38:39,692 --> 00:38:40,818
You think I care
what people think?!
725
00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:42,528
Hell fuck-- Excuse me.
726
00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:44,822
Hell no, I don't.
727
00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:46,490
[Trevon VO] Now you
know where it comes from.
728
00:38:46,532 --> 00:38:49,118
[both laugh]
729
00:38:51,037 --> 00:38:54,165
♪pensive hip-hop
instrumental♪
730
00:38:54,206 --> 00:38:55,666
-Uncle Purcell.
-Yeah...
731
00:38:55,708 --> 00:38:58,044
-[Trevon] That's--
-That's Grandpa on the end.
732
00:38:58,085 --> 00:38:59,545
I know, and that's you.
733
00:38:59,587 --> 00:39:00,379
Yeah.
734
00:39:00,421 --> 00:39:02,173
[Trevon] And who's this?
735
00:39:02,214 --> 00:39:03,841
'Cause you my great-grandmother.
736
00:39:03,883 --> 00:39:05,217
-Yeah.
-[dog barks]
737
00:39:05,259 --> 00:39:07,345
-Take it up!
-[Trevon] Yes, Grandma.
738
00:39:07,386 --> 00:39:10,348
That's Daddy's, uh, father.
739
00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:11,515
-Oh!
-Grandpa!
740
00:39:11,557 --> 00:39:13,726
That's my
great-great-great-grandfather.
741
00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:16,520
Yeah, and these
all my grandchildren.
742
00:39:16,562 --> 00:39:18,189
[Trevon VO] I'm my mother's
only child, you know?
743
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:20,399
Once-- once I go, that's it!
744
00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:22,068
There's no legacy, you know?
745
00:39:22,109 --> 00:39:25,029
So I-- I feel like
I need children.
746
00:39:25,071 --> 00:39:26,864
This is my grandma, right?
747
00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:29,325
That's Daddy -- my dad.
748
00:39:30,117 --> 00:39:32,495
[Trevon] And this is my pops.
749
00:39:32,787 --> 00:39:35,581
I don't know if I got
too much to say about him.
750
00:39:35,623 --> 00:39:38,834
My grandma sent it to
me when he passed away.
751
00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:42,713
[Trevon VO] To me,
legacy means bloodline.
752
00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:46,217
During your transition,
especially if you want more
753
00:39:46,258 --> 00:39:47,885
masculine features,
754
00:39:47,927 --> 00:39:49,887
you wanna take
hormones, of course.
755
00:39:49,929 --> 00:39:51,931
I was taking hormones for
a short period of time,
756
00:39:51,972 --> 00:39:55,518
and then, we
decided to have children.
757
00:39:55,643 --> 00:39:57,561
It had to be soon.
758
00:39:57,937 --> 00:40:02,233
When going to my GYN one day,
she told me that she found,
759
00:40:02,274 --> 00:40:05,236
like, a stage of
cervical cancer,
760
00:40:05,277 --> 00:40:09,198
and that I should
really get a hysterectomy.
761
00:40:09,824 --> 00:40:13,411
So, I've been a
little taken back by that,
762
00:40:13,452 --> 00:40:15,913
only because my main
purpose in life, I felt like,
763
00:40:15,955 --> 00:40:18,082
was to have a family.
764
00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:23,254
I told myself that I'm not
gonna take any hormones until
765
00:40:23,295 --> 00:40:27,550
we can get the money up and
I at least freeze my eggs.
766
00:40:27,967 --> 00:40:30,553
Taking the hormones, no kids.
767
00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:34,390
I pray on it for healing.
768
00:40:37,476 --> 00:40:38,769
-[man through megaphone] Free!
-[crowd] Chin!
769
00:40:38,811 --> 00:40:40,062
-[man through megaphone] Free!
-[crowd] Chin!
770
00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:41,313
-[man through megaphone] Free!
-[crowd] Chin!
771
00:40:41,355 --> 00:40:42,606
-[man through megaphone] Free!
-[crowd] Chin!
772
00:40:42,648 --> 00:40:43,941
-[man through megaphone] Free!
-[crowd] Chin!
773
00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:44,567
-[man through megaphone] Free!
-[crowd] Chin!
774
00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:45,192
-[man through megaphone] Free!
-[crowd] Chin!
775
00:40:45,234 --> 00:40:47,736
-[man through megaphone] Free!
-[crowd] Chin!
776
00:40:47,778 --> 00:40:48,446
-[man through megaphone] Free!
-[crowd] Chin!
777
00:40:48,487 --> 00:40:50,948
My brother is Chin.
778
00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:53,492
He's been locked up
for the last 15 months,
779
00:40:53,534 --> 00:40:55,953
and it's inhumane.
780
00:40:55,995 --> 00:40:57,788
It's not right.
781
00:40:57,830 --> 00:41:02,168
We have to free Chin,
because we sure miss him a lot.
782
00:41:02,251 --> 00:41:04,837
Because Chin is trans,
783
00:41:04,879 --> 00:41:07,798
ICE doesn't know
what to do with him!
784
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,510
So they have placed him
in solitary confinement!
785
00:41:11,552 --> 00:41:15,639
It's a form of torture
under human rights conventions!
786
00:41:15,681 --> 00:41:17,641
We must free Chin now!
787
00:41:17,683 --> 00:41:19,310
[crowd] Free Chin now!
788
00:41:19,351 --> 00:41:21,270
Free Chin now!
789
00:41:22,688 --> 00:41:24,315
[Nancy VO] This is so hard.
790
00:41:24,356 --> 00:41:26,609
Chin met the wrong people.
791
00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:28,611
[voice cracking] It's sad.
792
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:33,824
All he did was
credit card thief.
793
00:41:33,866 --> 00:41:36,869
It's not like a-- a crime
that he's killing somebody!
794
00:41:36,911 --> 00:41:38,162
He did his time!
795
00:41:38,204 --> 00:41:39,830
He did his time!
[sniffles]
796
00:41:39,872 --> 00:41:41,332
He doesn't need
to be locked up,
797
00:41:41,373 --> 00:41:45,169
and then for have Immigration
to put you in isolation?
798
00:41:45,211 --> 00:41:47,505
It's like putting my
child in a closet!
799
00:41:47,546 --> 00:41:48,839
No justice for Chin?!
800
00:41:48,881 --> 00:41:50,174
[crowd] No peace for ICE!
801
00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:50,925
[crowd] We shut this down!
802
00:41:50,966 --> 00:41:53,511
-[man] Who shut this down?!
-[crowd] We shut this down!
803
00:41:53,552 --> 00:41:55,846
-[man] Who shut this down?!
-[crowd] We shut this down!
804
00:41:55,888 --> 00:41:58,015
-[man] Who shut this down?!
-[crowd] We shut this down!
805
00:41:58,057 --> 00:42:01,310
-[man] Who shut this down?!
-[crowd] We shut this down!
806
00:42:03,437 --> 00:42:08,234
[birds chirping]
807
00:42:08,275 --> 00:42:11,028
[fly buzzing]
808
00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:13,030
[Tyquan VO] My
name's Tyquan Sanders.
809
00:42:13,072 --> 00:42:15,199
I'm Octavia's son.
810
00:42:16,909 --> 00:42:20,329
I kinda just started
to get to know Octavia.
811
00:42:21,038 --> 00:42:25,751
[Octavio VO] What made me do
the top surgery now versus then
812
00:42:25,793 --> 00:42:28,212
is because of my son.
813
00:42:28,254 --> 00:42:31,173
I didn't know how he was
gonna feel about that.
814
00:42:31,382 --> 00:42:35,219
I was just wondering if, uh...
815
00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:37,721
she was gonna
actually transition...
816
00:42:37,763 --> 00:42:38,889
or not.
817
00:42:38,931 --> 00:42:41,517
She just mentioned
it to me one day.
818
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,395
"This month, you know, I'm
actually gonna be doing surgery
819
00:42:44,436 --> 00:42:45,563
to get rid of this."
820
00:42:45,604 --> 00:42:47,898
Kind of did, like,
hand signs or whatever.
821
00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:49,400
And, um...
822
00:42:49,441 --> 00:42:51,527
I was like, "Okay, that's nice!"
823
00:42:52,611 --> 00:42:55,072
I'm just happy for my mom.
824
00:42:56,657 --> 00:42:58,909
[Octavio VO] He's
very supportive of me.
825
00:42:58,951 --> 00:43:00,953
♪hopeful ethereal music♪
826
00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:02,288
[kiss]
827
00:43:02,788 --> 00:43:04,582
I just can't
wait to be sleeping,
828
00:43:04,623 --> 00:43:06,458
and then wake up and...
829
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:09,753
don't have to feel this on my
damn-- damn near my damn stomach
830
00:43:09,795 --> 00:43:11,088
anymore.
831
00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:13,924
♪♪♪
832
00:43:13,966 --> 00:43:15,926
[Octavio VO] I've
always been top-heavy,
833
00:43:15,968 --> 00:43:19,597
and always had, like,
a complex behind that,
834
00:43:19,638 --> 00:43:22,808
you know, um, because I
don't feel like a woman.
835
00:43:22,850 --> 00:43:25,102
♪♪♪
836
00:43:25,144 --> 00:43:26,812
My best friend
is my fiancée;
837
00:43:26,854 --> 00:43:29,732
everything we do,
we do together.
838
00:43:29,815 --> 00:43:33,444
The thing is with her is
she's into feminine women.
839
00:43:33,944 --> 00:43:35,904
[chuckling] How we
got together, Daniel,
840
00:43:35,946 --> 00:43:38,282
I don't know, because -- you
see -- there's nothing feminine
841
00:43:38,324 --> 00:43:39,950
about me.
842
00:43:39,992 --> 00:43:43,329
If you truly love a person, I
don't think that that will stop
843
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:45,456
your relationship.
844
00:43:45,497 --> 00:43:46,165
[woman] All right!
845
00:43:46,206 --> 00:43:49,293
We're gonna start giving you
some relaxation medication,
846
00:43:49,335 --> 00:43:51,629
so why don't you say bye.
847
00:43:54,173 --> 00:43:55,924
[woman] Love you!
848
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,316
[clanking]
849
00:44:12,358 --> 00:44:14,276
[heavy metal door slams]
850
00:44:16,195 --> 00:44:21,283
♪tender ethereal music♪
851
00:44:26,205 --> 00:44:28,499
[Chin VO] You know how
many years we know each other?
852
00:44:28,540 --> 00:44:29,875
How long, Daniel?
853
00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:30,376
[laughs]
854
00:44:30,417 --> 00:44:32,211
[Daniel] Say it
right now, please?
855
00:44:32,252 --> 00:44:33,712
Oh, Daniel...
856
00:44:33,754 --> 00:44:34,672
[Daniel] Just a little.
857
00:44:34,713 --> 00:44:36,382
Soundbites.
858
00:44:36,423 --> 00:44:38,884
What do you want me
to talk about now?
859
00:44:38,926 --> 00:44:40,344
[laughs]
860
00:44:40,386 --> 00:44:41,387
[indistinct]
861
00:44:41,428 --> 00:44:43,472
What should we talk about?
862
00:44:45,391 --> 00:44:48,143
[Chin VO] I've been incarcerated
for three years now.
863
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,357
In that solitary confinement,
I wanted to kill myself,
864
00:44:53,399 --> 00:44:55,025
'cause I was gonna...
865
00:44:55,067 --> 00:44:57,194
I-- I didn't know what to do.
866
00:44:57,236 --> 00:45:01,073
When they put this in
facility out here in Texas,
867
00:45:01,115 --> 00:45:02,866
they treat me better.
868
00:45:02,908 --> 00:45:07,329
I want people to know the
life that I went through as a...
869
00:45:08,122 --> 00:45:09,998
immigrant.
870
00:45:10,332 --> 00:45:12,251
I have three strikes, okay?
871
00:45:12,292 --> 00:45:14,545
One, Asian;
872
00:45:14,586 --> 00:45:18,382
two, I'm a transgender male;
873
00:45:18,424 --> 00:45:22,010
and three, I have a
criminal background.
874
00:45:22,636 --> 00:45:25,723
In 'The Aggressives,' I never
really spoke about my personal
875
00:45:25,764 --> 00:45:27,182
life.
876
00:45:27,891 --> 00:45:32,396
So, me and my sister, we
really raised our own selves.
877
00:45:32,438 --> 00:45:35,232
♪♪♪
878
00:45:35,274 --> 00:45:39,611
[Nancy VO] We grew up
not a typical Asian family.
879
00:45:39,653 --> 00:45:42,239
Our parents
separated when we was young.
880
00:45:42,281 --> 00:45:44,241
We was all at
home, and my mom said,
881
00:45:44,283 --> 00:45:45,701
"Well, I'm gonna
run out real quick;
882
00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:49,079
I'm gonna go get something,"
and she never came back.
883
00:45:49,455 --> 00:45:52,416
Our dad was left to raise
three kids on his own with his
884
00:45:52,458 --> 00:45:54,084
mother's help.
885
00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:56,253
♪♪♪
886
00:45:56,295 --> 00:45:59,089
My grandmother, she used
to say bad things to me,
887
00:45:59,131 --> 00:46:03,093
you could say, and kinda
made my self-esteem low,
888
00:46:03,135 --> 00:46:05,429
made me feel ugly, and...
889
00:46:05,471 --> 00:46:06,930
you know, sh--...
890
00:46:06,972 --> 00:46:09,933
I-- I guess
because I didn't look...
891
00:46:09,975 --> 00:46:12,436
like the
granddaughter she want --
892
00:46:12,478 --> 00:46:16,940
you know, feminine, pretty,
playing piano, stuff like that.
893
00:46:17,232 --> 00:46:19,234
I was different.
894
00:46:19,443 --> 00:46:22,946
Chin turned to the street
because he felt unloved.
895
00:46:22,988 --> 00:46:26,283
He didn't have the
support system that he wanted,
896
00:46:26,325 --> 00:46:30,746
where to be loved, to be
accepted for what he is.
897
00:46:30,829 --> 00:46:32,790
[Treach VO] Him being
on the street was hard.
898
00:46:32,831 --> 00:46:35,459
No one can ever say what you
would do when you don't have a
899
00:46:35,501 --> 00:46:37,127
place to lay your head,
900
00:46:37,169 --> 00:46:39,630
don't have clothes,
don't have food.
901
00:46:39,671 --> 00:46:43,467
And Chin got caught up in
the wrong crowd of people.
902
00:46:43,509 --> 00:46:45,636
That could be any of us.
903
00:46:45,677 --> 00:46:47,763
Chin served his time.
904
00:46:48,847 --> 00:46:51,016
What happened to second chances?
905
00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:54,853
What happened to, you know, how
the justice system is supposed
906
00:46:54,895 --> 00:46:56,939
to actually work?
907
00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:00,859
Chin ended up in
this situation --
908
00:47:00,901 --> 00:47:02,861
stuck in
immigration detention --
909
00:47:02,903 --> 00:47:07,282
because, initially, of a mistake
made by the US government.
910
00:47:07,491 --> 00:47:11,703
Unfortunately, he ended up in a
situation where he was coerced
911
00:47:11,745 --> 00:47:13,664
to engage in some
illegal activity.
912
00:47:13,705 --> 00:47:15,499
That's called
"human trafficking."
913
00:47:15,541 --> 00:47:17,334
Trafficking victims are
not supposed to be held in
914
00:47:17,376 --> 00:47:17,960
detention;
915
00:47:18,001 --> 00:47:21,380
it's in the Trafficking
Victims Protection Act!
916
00:47:21,421 --> 00:47:24,341
They know his convictions
are tied to trafficking.
917
00:47:24,383 --> 00:47:27,010
The reason he was vulnerable in
the first place was because of
918
00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:29,054
Immigration's own mistake!
919
00:47:29,096 --> 00:47:32,140
I want to win my
case and stay...
920
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,519
in America.
921
00:47:35,561 --> 00:47:36,895
I have to take
care of my father,
922
00:47:36,937 --> 00:47:38,522
no matter what.
923
00:47:38,564 --> 00:47:40,315
I'm his first child.
924
00:47:46,738 --> 00:47:50,033
[Lynly VO] I get asked a lot
why Chin is being targeted to be
925
00:47:50,075 --> 00:47:51,702
held in detention like this.
926
00:47:51,743 --> 00:47:53,203
"Is it because he's transgender?
927
00:47:53,245 --> 00:47:55,205
Is it because he's Asian?"
928
00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:59,835
I actually do think it's
because he's transgender.
929
00:48:00,127 --> 00:48:03,589
What happens now is
we continue to fight.
930
00:48:03,630 --> 00:48:05,716
There's one thing my
attorney said to me;
931
00:48:05,757 --> 00:48:06,884
she said...
932
00:48:06,925 --> 00:48:10,053
she's gonna fight
for me until...
933
00:48:10,095 --> 00:48:14,016
her hands-- I mean her
hands against the wall.
934
00:48:15,142 --> 00:48:16,393
That's...
935
00:48:16,435 --> 00:48:18,103
that's real.
936
00:48:18,145 --> 00:48:23,233
♪♪♪
937
00:48:30,949 --> 00:48:33,201
[Trevon VO] I
never liked New York.
938
00:48:33,493 --> 00:48:36,371
New York's never been my thing.
939
00:48:37,789 --> 00:48:41,585
Most people, I think,
that are born here
940
00:48:41,627 --> 00:48:43,128
fight to get out,
941
00:48:43,170 --> 00:48:46,715
and most people that aren't
from here fight to get in.
942
00:48:51,303 --> 00:48:52,596
[kiss]
943
00:48:55,182 --> 00:48:55,766
[kiss]
944
00:48:55,807 --> 00:48:57,476
Eight long years.
945
00:48:57,517 --> 00:48:58,769
[Trevon] Yup!
946
00:48:58,810 --> 00:49:01,730
Never thought I would be
with somebody this long.
947
00:49:05,025 --> 00:49:07,778
We decided to
come back because
948
00:49:07,819 --> 00:49:09,780
it was just too
far from the family,
949
00:49:09,821 --> 00:49:12,449
and then Jade
has to get surgery.
950
00:49:12,491 --> 00:49:16,578
I mean, I do too, but overall,
Jade's surgery is set first.
951
00:49:20,165 --> 00:49:23,293
[Jade VO] I have to remove my
butt implants and my silicone
952
00:49:23,335 --> 00:49:24,962
injections.
953
00:49:25,253 --> 00:49:29,424
My doctor said it's gonna start
becoming a health issue for me.
954
00:49:29,841 --> 00:49:32,636
I was in the
dancing industry, and, um,
955
00:49:32,678 --> 00:49:35,639
looking at the other girls
and the money they was making,
956
00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:40,102
and, you know, me being
small -- and I was only 18.
957
00:49:42,187 --> 00:49:45,816
If I could change something,
I would have never got it.
958
00:49:48,694 --> 00:49:49,653
[Trevon VO]
Since I've been back,
959
00:49:49,695 --> 00:49:51,780
I haven't been to the doctor.
960
00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:54,366
When I tried to call a
clinic to, you know,
961
00:49:54,408 --> 00:49:58,161
start talking about the
hysterectomy process,
962
00:49:58,203 --> 00:50:00,163
it was just bad.
963
00:50:00,205 --> 00:50:01,832
The phone call
went like this:
964
00:50:01,873 --> 00:50:04,209
"Are you calling the
right clinic, sir?"
965
00:50:04,251 --> 00:50:06,003
"Yes, I'm calling
the right clinic."
966
00:50:06,044 --> 00:50:08,714
"You calling to make an
appointment for your wife, sir?"
967
00:50:08,755 --> 00:50:09,381
"No.
968
00:50:09,423 --> 00:50:12,009
I'm calling to make an
appointment for myself."
969
00:50:12,050 --> 00:50:13,510
So then I explain:
970
00:50:13,552 --> 00:50:14,302
"I'm trans,
971
00:50:14,302 --> 00:50:17,347
my doctor thinks it's best
that I get a hysterectomy."
972
00:50:17,389 --> 00:50:19,016
"Okay, miss."
973
00:50:19,057 --> 00:50:21,184
"No, I just told
you that I'm trans."
974
00:50:21,226 --> 00:50:23,812
So I never went with them.
975
00:50:23,895 --> 00:50:26,982
So I-- I don't really know
what's going on with me.
976
00:50:27,941 --> 00:50:29,192
Once settled in the apartment,
977
00:50:29,234 --> 00:50:32,529
I plan on taking all
the necessary steps.
978
00:50:33,447 --> 00:50:36,533
As a trans guy, it's hard.
979
00:50:52,924 --> 00:50:54,509
[Kisha] Come up!
980
00:50:55,427 --> 00:50:56,428
[dog barks]
981
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:58,013
Come here!
982
00:51:00,932 --> 00:51:02,392
Wait, you filming right now?!
983
00:51:02,434 --> 00:51:03,560
[Daniel] Yeah.
984
00:51:03,602 --> 00:51:05,353
[Kisha] Oof...
985
00:51:05,937 --> 00:51:08,023
Yeah, I mean...
986
00:51:08,315 --> 00:51:11,234
I feel like somebody done, like,
pulled the carpet from under my
987
00:51:11,276 --> 00:51:13,195
feet, like...
988
00:51:13,278 --> 00:51:15,739
because it happened so sudden.
989
00:51:15,822 --> 00:51:18,116
I mean, right now, I just
feel lost and confused.
990
00:51:18,158 --> 00:51:20,243
♪melancholy music♪
991
00:51:20,285 --> 00:51:22,788
I'm preparing for
my mom's memorial,
992
00:51:22,829 --> 00:51:24,414
and I'm getting...
993
00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:29,544
all my mom's images together
so we could do a slideshow.
994
00:51:29,961 --> 00:51:34,132
[Kisha VO] She had been
fighting bladder cancer.
995
00:51:34,174 --> 00:51:35,717
She had-- she had a stroke.
996
00:51:35,759 --> 00:51:37,928
She had a stroke, and, uh,
we rushed her to the hospital,
997
00:51:37,969 --> 00:51:40,138
and, um, yeah.
998
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:42,099
♪♪♪
999
00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:45,769
This is her when she was
pregnant with me in the '70s.
1000
00:51:46,186 --> 00:51:49,272
And this is her famous fur coat.
1001
00:51:49,481 --> 00:51:52,275
And this is all
of us together --
1002
00:51:52,317 --> 00:51:55,070
my and all my
siblings with my mom.
1003
00:51:56,696 --> 00:51:59,783
She was so sassy
when she was young!
1004
00:51:59,825 --> 00:52:02,077
We look just alike.
1005
00:52:03,161 --> 00:52:05,580
These are her memories.
1006
00:52:07,499 --> 00:52:09,459
[sighs] The fact
that it was sudden,
1007
00:52:09,501 --> 00:52:11,419
it wasn't...
[sighs]
1008
00:52:13,505 --> 00:52:16,299
[voice straining]
it wasn't expected.
1009
00:52:17,551 --> 00:52:19,970
So, um...
1010
00:52:23,223 --> 00:52:25,600
you know, I-- I, um...
1011
00:52:25,892 --> 00:52:29,312
put myself on timeout for a bit.
1012
00:52:29,354 --> 00:52:32,691
♪♪♪
1013
00:52:32,732 --> 00:52:34,442
[sniffles]
1014
00:52:43,702 --> 00:52:46,371
You think that
there's more time and...
1015
00:52:46,413 --> 00:52:48,707
you just never
really know, you know?
1016
00:52:48,748 --> 00:52:49,332
And...
1017
00:52:49,374 --> 00:52:51,668
that's just the thing
with that, with life,
1018
00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:53,003
it's like...
1019
00:52:53,044 --> 00:52:55,797
you don't really know.
1020
00:52:57,591 --> 00:53:00,218
Sometimes I feel sad, but
sometimes I feel extremely,
1021
00:53:00,260 --> 00:53:01,720
um...
1022
00:53:01,761 --> 00:53:03,638
powerful.
1023
00:53:04,764 --> 00:53:07,475
'Cause I feel like she's
with me, you know?
1024
00:53:09,394 --> 00:53:12,147
And I know that she's proud.
1025
00:53:15,901 --> 00:53:17,694
It's beautiful.
1026
00:53:17,736 --> 00:53:22,824
♪♪♪
1027
00:53:27,746 --> 00:53:28,330
Well...
[sighs]
1028
00:53:28,330 --> 00:53:31,499
I'm carrying the
torch of my family now.
1029
00:53:32,125 --> 00:53:35,587
It wasn't 'til I became adult
that I realized she really took
1030
00:53:35,629 --> 00:53:37,047
the time to
really get to know me.
1031
00:53:37,088 --> 00:53:39,216
She's dragging me to the park.
1032
00:53:39,257 --> 00:53:40,884
[Kisha VO] That just
made me become more and more
1033
00:53:40,926 --> 00:53:43,011
appreciative of her.
1034
00:53:43,303 --> 00:53:47,057
And it showed me that she
accepted me for who I was.
1035
00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:49,392
That made our bond stronger.
1036
00:53:49,434 --> 00:53:50,685
[Kisha] Come here!
1037
00:53:53,104 --> 00:53:55,065
[water lapping against rocks]
1038
00:53:55,106 --> 00:53:56,733
[Kisha VO] This feeling
I'm feeling right now,
1039
00:53:56,775 --> 00:53:58,860
it's-- it's temporary.
1040
00:53:58,944 --> 00:54:00,862
That, I know.
1041
00:54:03,615 --> 00:54:07,702
It takes time to get
to a place of healing.
1042
00:54:24,010 --> 00:54:27,389
[Lynly VO] I am so
excited to be here.
1043
00:54:28,848 --> 00:54:31,601
It's a culmination of a lot
of work for a lot of people.
1044
00:54:31,643 --> 00:54:34,271
There have been a lot of
people who got us here today,
1045
00:54:34,312 --> 00:54:36,773
and I can't wait to see Chin.
1046
00:54:37,983 --> 00:54:39,943
Oh my God!
1047
00:54:42,821 --> 00:54:44,281
Hi!
1048
00:54:44,322 --> 00:54:46,116
Oh, you look great!
1049
00:54:46,157 --> 00:54:47,117
[chuckling] Yeah, all right.
1050
00:54:47,158 --> 00:54:48,285
Hey, Daniel!
1051
00:54:48,326 --> 00:54:49,786
Gimme a hug!
1052
00:54:49,828 --> 00:54:53,164
Oh, can you believe I'm
standing here talking to you?!
1053
00:54:53,206 --> 00:54:54,499
And Lynly!
1054
00:54:54,541 --> 00:54:56,626
-Oh my God!
-And Mr. Bailey!
1055
00:54:56,668 --> 00:54:58,128
-Yes!
-We won! [chuckles]
1056
00:54:58,169 --> 00:54:59,963
All my legal
documents and stuff.
1057
00:55:00,005 --> 00:55:01,464
For two years!
1058
00:55:01,506 --> 00:55:02,299
[Daniel] How do you feel?
1059
00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:05,135
[sighs] Excited...
1060
00:55:05,176 --> 00:55:07,679
ready for my new journey.
[chuckles]
1061
00:55:07,721 --> 00:55:12,809
♪uplifting emotional music♪
1062
00:55:19,357 --> 00:55:21,484
I got the call,
and I was just like,
1063
00:55:21,526 --> 00:55:23,153
"What?!"
1064
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,322
Lynly was not giving up.
1065
00:55:25,363 --> 00:55:27,157
-[Daniel] I know.
-No, not at all.
1066
00:55:27,198 --> 00:55:29,659
[Daniel] Okay, Chin, what's
the first thing you're gonna do?
1067
00:55:29,701 --> 00:55:31,703
Eat some good food.
[laughs]
1068
00:55:31,745 --> 00:55:33,496
Take a bath.
[laughs]
1069
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,207
-Thank you.
-Welcome home.
1070
00:55:36,249 --> 00:55:38,460
Thank you, thank you.
1071
00:55:39,544 --> 00:55:41,004
Daniel, you okay?
1072
00:55:41,046 --> 00:55:42,297
All right.
1073
00:55:42,339 --> 00:55:42,839
-Thank you, Daniel!
-[Daniel] I love you!
1074
00:55:42,881 --> 00:55:44,883
I love you too!
I'll call you tomorrow!
1075
00:55:44,924 --> 00:55:46,676
[Daniel] Enjoy your night!
1076
00:55:46,718 --> 00:55:51,806
♪♪♪
1077
00:56:01,066 --> 00:56:06,154
[pigeons cooing]
1078
00:56:10,909 --> 00:56:13,995
[Octavio VO] It's a
year and change later.
1079
00:56:14,204 --> 00:56:15,747
Words can't even
sum up how I feel;
1080
00:56:15,789 --> 00:56:19,334
that's how excited I am
about myself right now.
1081
00:56:20,752 --> 00:56:22,712
Most of the time,
it didn't hurt.
1082
00:56:22,754 --> 00:56:25,090
I wasn't in, like, pain
or anything like that.
1083
00:56:25,131 --> 00:56:27,008
It was itchy.
1084
00:56:27,634 --> 00:56:30,095
Seriously, if anybody wants
to do something like that,
1085
00:56:30,136 --> 00:56:32,889
I think that's the best
investment you can do for
1086
00:56:32,931 --> 00:56:34,516
yourself.
1087
00:56:36,434 --> 00:56:38,061
You know I'm not with
that woman anymore;
1088
00:56:38,103 --> 00:56:41,564
we was-- well, we was
together, we're not together.
1089
00:56:43,942 --> 00:56:45,443
[Daniel] Did the surgery
have anything to do with the
1090
00:56:45,485 --> 00:56:46,903
break-up?
1091
00:56:46,945 --> 00:56:49,531
No, that didn't have
nothin' to do with the break-up.
1092
00:56:50,281 --> 00:56:54,244
But right now, I don't think I
want no committed relationship,
1093
00:56:54,285 --> 00:56:54,953
no.
1094
00:56:54,953 --> 00:56:57,455
Sometimes, when you get
out of a long relationship,
1095
00:56:57,497 --> 00:57:01,084
seriously, you need
to have time to...
1096
00:57:01,126 --> 00:57:03,753
heal yourself, you
get what I'm saying?
1097
00:57:04,254 --> 00:57:08,425
Regardless of what
changes I go through in life,
1098
00:57:08,466 --> 00:57:13,138
for me, I'm still-- I
was still born a woman,
1099
00:57:13,179 --> 00:57:13,847
you get what I'm saying?
1100
00:57:13,847 --> 00:57:16,808
So I can relate to them
a little bit more than, uh,
1101
00:57:16,850 --> 00:57:18,893
the average guy.
1102
00:57:19,811 --> 00:57:24,899
♪uplifting ambient music♪
1103
00:57:29,863 --> 00:57:32,949
I'm still the same person;
like, that doesn't change you,
1104
00:57:32,991 --> 00:57:34,492
you get what I'm saying?
1105
00:57:34,534 --> 00:57:36,453
♪♪♪
1106
00:57:36,494 --> 00:57:38,455
You change your
appearance, yeah.
1107
00:57:38,496 --> 00:57:40,290
It's doesn't change
you, your inner soul,
1108
00:57:40,331 --> 00:57:42,417
like your inner self.
1109
00:57:45,336 --> 00:57:47,130
I'm still the same person.
1110
00:57:47,172 --> 00:57:52,260
♪♪♪
1111
00:58:04,856 --> 00:58:09,944
[phone alarm ringing]
1112
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:15,450
[kiss]
1113
00:58:16,534 --> 00:58:17,785
[kiss]
1114
00:58:18,995 --> 00:58:21,039
[Trevon VO] I'm a
relationship person;
1115
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,208
that's what I do.
1116
00:58:23,249 --> 00:58:26,294
My end goal is a
family, marriage, kids.
1117
00:58:27,712 --> 00:58:30,048
Jade is not gonna have one,
1118
00:58:30,089 --> 00:58:32,175
going through reconstruction
1119
00:58:32,217 --> 00:58:34,802
and having to get
everything fixed up.
1120
00:58:37,931 --> 00:58:40,725
I put your tea bag in at...
1121
00:58:40,767 --> 00:58:44,187
I guess 8:20, so
8:35, you gotta come up.
1122
00:58:44,229 --> 00:58:46,314
I'ma run to the store.
1123
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,025
All right, I'm going
to grab these eggs.
1124
00:58:49,067 --> 00:58:50,026
[Jade] [clears throat] Okay.
1125
00:58:50,068 --> 00:58:51,694
Can you make the
sausage patties?
1126
00:58:51,736 --> 00:58:52,445
[Jade] Mm-hm.
1127
00:58:52,445 --> 00:58:54,030
'Cause I'm assuming you're
gonna get up when we leave.
1128
00:58:54,072 --> 00:58:56,991
[door opens]
1129
00:58:58,535 --> 00:59:03,039
So, we're back in Palms because
Jade had her surgery on her
1130
00:59:03,081 --> 00:59:06,042
butt, she got it
removed, so overall,
1131
00:59:06,084 --> 00:59:08,753
she just doesn't
wanna be in New York
1132
00:59:08,795 --> 00:59:11,589
with her appearance,
I guess, being like that.
1133
00:59:11,631 --> 00:59:15,176
But for me, I
just prefer it here.
1134
00:59:15,677 --> 00:59:18,721
Hopefully, we can really be
bi-costal and be snowbirds,
1135
00:59:18,763 --> 00:59:21,516
and, like, go back and forth.
1136
00:59:23,601 --> 00:59:24,227
[keypad beeping]
1137
00:59:24,269 --> 00:59:27,397
I've been coming back
and forth to Palms...
1138
00:59:27,438 --> 00:59:29,691
kinda since I met Jade.
1139
00:59:33,111 --> 00:59:35,947
We made a trip out here
about seven years ago
1140
00:59:35,989 --> 00:59:36,739
and we just loved it.
1141
00:59:36,781 --> 00:59:39,742
We thought it wasn't affordable
because of how beautiful it was,
1142
00:59:39,784 --> 00:59:42,704
but, shockingly,
it was affordable.
1143
00:59:42,996 --> 00:59:44,789
That was-- that
was it, babe, right?
1144
00:59:44,831 --> 00:59:47,208
[Jade] Uh-huh.
[indistinct]
1145
00:59:48,459 --> 00:59:50,253
Don't film my butt, please.
1146
00:59:50,295 --> 00:59:53,298
My butt is flat and I'm
very self-conscious about it.
1147
00:59:53,339 --> 00:59:56,926
Going on, like, social media,
when you see certain girls
1148
00:59:56,968 --> 00:59:59,596
looking a certain way, you
start feeling self-conscious.
1149
00:59:59,637 --> 01:00:03,057
You start finding little
things wrong with you.
1150
01:00:03,558 --> 01:00:07,103
I do think that I
have body dysmorphia.
1151
01:00:07,812 --> 01:00:09,981
I never liked my nose.
1152
01:00:10,023 --> 01:00:12,775
Last year, I went
and did my whole face;
1153
01:00:12,817 --> 01:00:14,777
I went to Istanbul, Turkey.
1154
01:00:14,819 --> 01:00:17,447
I did cat eyes, I
did a cheek lift,
1155
01:00:17,488 --> 01:00:22,452
a lip lift, a rhinoplasty, and
I did fat fillers to my chin.
1156
01:00:22,493 --> 01:00:24,287
And I also did a
hair transplant,
1157
01:00:24,329 --> 01:00:26,122
to my eyebrows.
1158
01:00:26,623 --> 01:00:29,792
I looked so different,
he made me feel
1159
01:00:29,834 --> 01:00:32,629
a little like
he didn't like it.
1160
01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:34,797
He was like, "Where's my
Pippi"-- he calls me "Pippi,"
1161
01:00:34,839 --> 01:00:36,966
so he's like,
"Where's my Pippi face?"
1162
01:00:37,008 --> 01:00:39,135
I discouraged
Jade to get surgery.
1163
01:00:39,177 --> 01:00:41,304
I think that she's
perfect the way she is.
1164
01:00:41,346 --> 01:00:43,139
I don't think
Jade needs surgery.
1165
01:00:43,181 --> 01:00:46,934
It's not about him, it's
about how I feel about myself.
1166
01:00:47,143 --> 01:00:48,645
[Trevon] How many
sausage you want?
1167
01:00:48,686 --> 01:00:49,812
[Jade] Four!
1168
01:00:49,854 --> 01:00:52,106
My baby puts it down!
1169
01:00:52,732 --> 01:00:56,653
Just being with Jade
taught me to appreciate...
1170
01:00:56,694 --> 01:00:59,030
my body in a different way.
1171
01:00:59,072 --> 01:01:02,700
Now, when I look in the mirror,
I'm okay with what I see.
1172
01:01:02,742 --> 01:01:04,160
They're, like, so small.
1173
01:01:04,202 --> 01:01:05,203
[chuckling] I shoulda
made more of these.
1174
01:01:05,244 --> 01:01:06,663
[laughs]
1175
01:01:06,704 --> 01:01:09,374
[Trevon VO] So, I
went to the doctor and,
1176
01:01:09,415 --> 01:01:13,503
thank God, I was able to
find out that I don't have
1177
01:01:13,544 --> 01:01:17,465
cervic cancer, I just
had some abnormal cells.
1178
01:01:17,590 --> 01:01:18,841
-[Trevon] Mm!
-[kiss]
1179
01:01:18,883 --> 01:01:20,468
One more!
1180
01:01:20,551 --> 01:01:22,303
[Trevon VO] I know
for a lot of trans men,
1181
01:01:22,345 --> 01:01:26,015
it can be triggering to go to
things like the OB-GYN because
1182
01:01:26,057 --> 01:01:28,685
you have to deal with
your feminine parts.
1183
01:01:29,102 --> 01:01:32,855
It's uncomfortable to go
to a woman's clinic as a man
1184
01:01:32,897 --> 01:01:35,024
and need services.
1185
01:01:36,943 --> 01:01:40,697
To be honest, I avoid healthcare
'cause it triggers an emotion
1186
01:01:40,738 --> 01:01:42,198
for me,
1187
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,992
so that's why
I just don't do it.
1188
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,387
[Chin VO] It's hard.
1189
01:02:04,429 --> 01:02:05,763
It's hard to go
through, you know,
1190
01:02:05,805 --> 01:02:07,890
what I'm going
through right now.
1191
01:02:08,266 --> 01:02:11,227
I don't have a stable home.
1192
01:02:11,269 --> 01:02:15,189
I'm just living with my
sister and my brother-in-law.
1193
01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:18,234
I still don't have a job
'cause I still have to wait for
1194
01:02:18,276 --> 01:02:20,570
Immigration to...
1195
01:02:20,611 --> 01:02:23,072
give me my green card back.
1196
01:02:24,615 --> 01:02:27,577
The trauma that I went
through in my past, and...
1197
01:02:27,618 --> 01:02:32,373
being in the Immigration,
and how I was being treated...
1198
01:02:32,790 --> 01:02:35,752
because of me
being trans,
1199
01:02:35,793 --> 01:02:37,879
it-- it breaks you.
1200
01:02:37,962 --> 01:02:42,091
You know, I had to be strong
and just have faith in God.
1201
01:02:42,133 --> 01:02:44,427
♪tense hopeful music♪
1202
01:02:44,469 --> 01:02:47,972
In the beginning, my PTSD
was really, really bad.
1203
01:02:48,014 --> 01:02:51,267
I'd wake up thinking I'm
still in the detention center.
1204
01:02:52,852 --> 01:02:55,438
I don't know, it
kinda messed me up.
1205
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,733
Right now, I'm
just focusing on...
1206
01:02:59,150 --> 01:03:03,112
being there for my father,
making sure my father is okay.
1207
01:03:03,154 --> 01:03:05,573
I'm just living day by day.
1208
01:03:06,073 --> 01:03:08,951
[Daniel] What do you
see your future like?
1209
01:03:08,993 --> 01:03:11,078
What's your dream?
1210
01:03:12,205 --> 01:03:14,457
I don't have any
dream right now.
1211
01:03:14,499 --> 01:03:16,959
I'm gonna be honest
with you; I don't.
1212
01:03:17,001 --> 01:03:20,671
I think Immigration had
took my dream away from me.
1213
01:03:20,713 --> 01:03:22,965
♪♪♪
1214
01:03:23,007 --> 01:03:24,467
I'm just living
day by day,
1215
01:03:24,509 --> 01:03:26,928
and whatever comes,
comes.
1216
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:39,607
[waterfall churning]
1217
01:03:50,201 --> 01:03:53,621
This reminds me of
something years ago.
1218
01:03:55,206 --> 01:03:57,500
This park
situation and bench,
1219
01:03:57,542 --> 01:03:58,501
and this damn cigarette.
1220
01:03:58,543 --> 01:04:00,503
[laughs]
1221
01:04:00,545 --> 01:04:02,505
[chuckling] I think I was
sitting like this in that damn
1222
01:04:02,547 --> 01:04:03,840
video, man!
1223
01:04:03,881 --> 01:04:05,174
I'm sitting there
smoking a damn cigarette,
1224
01:04:05,216 --> 01:04:06,968
just thinking.
1225
01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:10,513
I did mature a lot.
1226
01:04:10,555 --> 01:04:13,182
I'm nowhere near,
like, the same person.
1227
01:04:13,474 --> 01:04:16,853
I don't wanna be categorized.
1228
01:04:16,894 --> 01:04:19,021
I just wanna be called my name.
1229
01:04:19,063 --> 01:04:21,649
I have a name for a reason!
1230
01:04:22,733 --> 01:04:24,360
That's it!
1231
01:04:27,947 --> 01:04:32,034
[Tyquan VO] I-- I feel like
him identifying as-- as a male
1232
01:04:32,076 --> 01:04:35,162
kind of contributed
to a lot of the trauma.
1233
01:04:36,414 --> 01:04:39,542
He's already been
through, like, the worst.
1234
01:04:40,126 --> 01:04:42,378
There was a point
in time where, like,
1235
01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:44,380
I kinda didn't wanna
speak to him or whatever,
1236
01:04:44,422 --> 01:04:46,841
but I've made peace with it.
1237
01:04:47,967 --> 01:04:50,720
If it was in his
ability to be there,
1238
01:04:50,761 --> 01:04:52,847
he would've been there.
1239
01:04:54,932 --> 01:04:58,394
There's just, like,
this weird stigma with...
1240
01:04:58,436 --> 01:05:01,063
Black men in
general that, like...
1241
01:05:01,105 --> 01:05:03,566
you do a certain thing,
you look a certain way,
1242
01:05:03,608 --> 01:05:05,860
you wear a certain thing.
1243
01:05:07,778 --> 01:05:09,739
So when they see me
and I'm, like, not that,
1244
01:05:09,780 --> 01:05:11,574
I guess they
just think, like...
1245
01:05:11,616 --> 01:05:12,950
"Oh, I guess he's
gay" or something,
1246
01:05:12,992 --> 01:05:15,286
and I'm like, "No, I'm just...
1247
01:05:15,328 --> 01:05:16,579
me."
1248
01:05:16,621 --> 01:05:19,916
♪soft uplifting music♪
1249
01:05:19,957 --> 01:05:22,752
Being authentically
yourself, you know,
1250
01:05:22,793 --> 01:05:26,088
despite what everybody
else is saying is just, like,
1251
01:05:26,130 --> 01:05:28,549
really inspiring to me.
1252
01:05:28,633 --> 01:05:30,927
[chuckles] I'm--
I'm proud of my mom.
1253
01:05:30,968 --> 01:05:33,262
♪♪♪
1254
01:05:33,304 --> 01:05:35,222
[Tyquan groans]
1255
01:05:35,973 --> 01:05:37,099
[Octavio] Damn...
1256
01:05:37,141 --> 01:05:39,101
My old ass can
barely climb up the edge,
1257
01:05:39,143 --> 01:05:41,228
and I gotta help you out!
1258
01:05:42,146 --> 01:05:44,398
[Tyquan VO] He is happy.
1259
01:05:44,815 --> 01:05:46,776
He always tries to
just remind me that, like,
1260
01:05:46,817 --> 01:05:49,111
I'm his son,
1261
01:05:49,153 --> 01:05:50,655
nothing's really
gonna change that,
1262
01:05:50,696 --> 01:05:53,616
and how, if anything
happens to me, like, you know,
1263
01:05:53,658 --> 01:05:55,910
he's gonna be there for me.
1264
01:05:56,327 --> 01:06:00,289
If you can have any kind
of tag associated to you,
1265
01:06:00,331 --> 01:06:02,959
first and foremost, he's a mom.
1266
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,753
[Octavio VO] My
son is my everything.
1267
01:06:13,344 --> 01:06:15,763
[Trevon] Let me know what
you wanna eat for lunch.
1268
01:06:17,348 --> 01:06:18,015
[indistinct]
1269
01:06:18,057 --> 01:06:19,850
-[kiss]
-Ooh.
1270
01:06:19,892 --> 01:06:20,977
-See you later.
-You always shocking somebody.
1271
01:06:21,018 --> 01:06:22,478
-See you later.
-All right, love you.
1272
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,271
I love you too.
1273
01:06:25,523 --> 01:06:28,317
[Jade VO] When I
watched the first film,
1274
01:06:28,359 --> 01:06:29,986
it showed...
1275
01:06:30,027 --> 01:06:32,655
how Trevon grown from that.
1276
01:06:32,697 --> 01:06:35,157
He was really young at the time.
1277
01:06:35,241 --> 01:06:37,618
I didn't know him back then.
1278
01:06:38,536 --> 01:06:40,955
It's just a total difference.
1279
01:06:42,915 --> 01:06:45,167
[Trevon] Well, we workin'
overtime and double time for
1280
01:06:45,209 --> 01:06:48,462
Jade's reconstruction surgery.
1281
01:06:48,754 --> 01:06:51,966
No sleep, no rest,
straight overtime.
1282
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,347
I've just come to this point
where I'm not comfortable with
1283
01:06:58,389 --> 01:07:01,851
not having kids,
but I've accepted it,
1284
01:07:01,892 --> 01:07:03,644
so...
1285
01:07:05,938 --> 01:07:07,690
Before I was doing DoorDash,
1286
01:07:07,732 --> 01:07:10,484
I used to work for
an adult group home.
1287
01:07:10,568 --> 01:07:12,236
When I was a kid,
my mom was ill.
1288
01:07:12,278 --> 01:07:15,531
You know, my mom passed away
from HIV-related symptoms,
1289
01:07:15,573 --> 01:07:19,535
so by the time I was like
12, my mother was really sick,
1290
01:07:19,577 --> 01:07:21,871
to the point where
I did everything,
1291
01:07:21,912 --> 01:07:23,039
so...
1292
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,499
I'm kinda used to
taking care of people.
1293
01:07:27,752 --> 01:07:30,504
I make sure my
people is all right.
1294
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:44,560
I love working DoorDash 'cause
it gives me flexibility to do
1295
01:07:44,602 --> 01:07:45,311
what I want.
1296
01:07:45,352 --> 01:07:48,564
I don't like authority, so
I like being my own boss.
1297
01:07:48,606 --> 01:07:49,732
You're welcome, have a good day.
1298
01:07:49,774 --> 01:07:51,233
[woman] You too.
1299
01:07:53,944 --> 01:07:55,237
[Trevon VO] This is
the best part of the day:
1300
01:07:55,279 --> 01:07:57,073
buying weed.
1301
01:07:58,157 --> 01:08:00,076
It's crazy how,
in the first film,
1302
01:08:00,117 --> 01:08:03,245
Octavio went to jail for weed.
1303
01:08:03,287 --> 01:08:05,706
-Thank you.
-[Trevon VO] He lost his kid.
1304
01:08:06,332 --> 01:08:08,793
He went through a lot,
essentially for something that
1305
01:08:08,834 --> 01:08:10,878
is now legal.
1306
01:08:14,465 --> 01:08:16,425
If we go back there,
there's people that, like,
1307
01:08:16,466 --> 01:08:18,260
live, like right...
1308
01:08:18,301 --> 01:08:21,096
they could reach out
their window and grab 'em.
1309
01:08:21,138 --> 01:08:22,765
I wish that was me.
1310
01:08:22,807 --> 01:08:25,392
I wanna climb a mountain.
1311
01:08:27,185 --> 01:08:32,274
♪uplifting ambient music♪
1312
01:08:33,651 --> 01:08:36,654
I live a surfer,
nomad lifestyle,
1313
01:08:36,694 --> 01:08:40,407
and it takes balls to
live the way I live.
1314
01:08:40,741 --> 01:08:45,955
I don't live my life as
what society would...
1315
01:08:47,331 --> 01:08:52,294
deem your ideal man or
your ideal successful person.
1316
01:08:53,170 --> 01:08:55,296
A lot of people...
1317
01:08:55,339 --> 01:08:58,801
tend to live in the boundaries
and the restrictions and the
1318
01:08:58,843 --> 01:09:02,470
constraints, and I
guess I'm living for 'em,
1319
01:09:02,513 --> 01:09:04,640
'cause I'm just being
me, living my life,
1320
01:09:04,682 --> 01:09:07,685
doing me, and
riding the wave of, uh...
1321
01:09:07,725 --> 01:09:09,478
of faith.
1322
01:09:10,854 --> 01:09:15,024
That's probably why my
life gives off this light.
1323
01:09:15,067 --> 01:09:17,653
♪♪♪
1324
01:09:17,694 --> 01:09:19,947
[Trevon] I can't
vogue out here.
1325
01:09:21,031 --> 01:09:22,992
Come on, Daniel, I
gotta go to work!
1326
01:09:23,033 --> 01:09:28,122
♪♪♪
1327
01:09:44,889 --> 01:09:46,223
[Chin VO] I didn't have no...
1328
01:09:46,265 --> 01:09:49,143
nobody to guide me to...
1329
01:09:49,602 --> 01:09:51,645
to transition.
1330
01:09:52,854 --> 01:09:54,899
When I had gotten
my top surgery done,
1331
01:09:54,940 --> 01:09:57,985
it was not about my appearance.
1332
01:09:58,194 --> 01:10:00,863
I was uncomfortable, 'cause
once you take off your clothes,
1333
01:10:00,905 --> 01:10:02,531
you see...
1334
01:10:02,573 --> 01:10:04,700
[chuckles] what you see,
and I was very uncomfortable,
1335
01:10:04,742 --> 01:10:06,994
and I've always
been uncomfortable.
1336
01:10:08,579 --> 01:10:11,832
[Chin] This is, uh, where
I sit when I take my break.
1337
01:10:12,124 --> 01:10:13,542
It's hot in there, so...
1338
01:10:13,584 --> 01:10:14,251
[chuckles]
1339
01:10:14,293 --> 01:10:16,212
Lemme take off my apron.
1340
01:10:17,296 --> 01:10:19,215
I enjoy working in
this restaurant.
1341
01:10:19,256 --> 01:10:22,051
They treat me good and, um...
1342
01:10:22,092 --> 01:10:24,678
you know, I just...
1343
01:10:25,012 --> 01:10:27,723
living a nor-- I guess you
could say "a normal life" now.
1344
01:10:27,765 --> 01:10:29,183
[chuckles]
1345
01:10:30,809 --> 01:10:33,395
I've been taking care of my dad.
1346
01:10:33,562 --> 01:10:35,439
I've been saving up my money.
1347
01:10:35,481 --> 01:10:38,567
Got myself a nice apartment
in Flushing, Queens,
1348
01:10:38,609 --> 01:10:41,111
and me and my
father is living together,
1349
01:10:41,153 --> 01:10:43,197
and we're doing good.
1350
01:10:43,489 --> 01:10:45,741
You know, when I
first came home,
1351
01:10:45,783 --> 01:10:47,910
I Googled myself.
[chuckles]
1352
01:10:47,952 --> 01:10:49,370
I was stunned.
1353
01:10:49,411 --> 01:10:52,539
I couldn't believe how
much people supported me.
1354
01:10:54,458 --> 01:10:56,752
I'm very grateful.
1355
01:10:57,962 --> 01:11:02,591
It's a very emotional
issue to me because...
1356
01:11:03,842 --> 01:11:07,263
I mean, America is all I know.
1357
01:11:07,304 --> 01:11:10,307
♪♪♪
1358
01:11:10,349 --> 01:11:15,437
[Chin laughing]
1359
01:11:18,274 --> 01:11:19,984
[indistinct]
1360
01:11:20,025 --> 01:11:20,943
[laughs]
1361
01:11:20,985 --> 01:11:22,903
I am Chin...
1362
01:11:23,404 --> 01:11:27,741
and I live my life as
a man, and that's it.
1363
01:11:28,158 --> 01:11:32,913
I don't-- I don't need a
label to define who I am.
1364
01:11:36,041 --> 01:11:37,793
Next month, I'm
gonna be 50 years old.
1365
01:11:37,835 --> 01:11:39,420
[chuckles]
1366
01:11:39,628 --> 01:11:42,298
I think this the best...
1367
01:11:43,340 --> 01:11:46,135
best days of my life.
1368
01:11:47,344 --> 01:11:49,430
I'm at peace.
1369
01:11:54,518 --> 01:11:59,606
♪soft uplifting music♪
1370
01:11:59,690 --> 01:12:04,778
[indistinct chatter]
1371
01:12:05,070 --> 01:12:07,614
[Kisha VO] It's a new day.
1372
01:12:07,823 --> 01:12:11,160
It's a new season in
my life right now.
1373
01:12:11,452 --> 01:12:14,121
I'm getting back to my work.
1374
01:12:14,455 --> 01:12:16,040
[camera beeping and snapping]
1375
01:12:16,081 --> 01:12:18,625
Back to my passions.
1376
01:12:18,834 --> 01:12:20,377
Taking pictures.
1377
01:12:20,419 --> 01:12:22,671
♪♪♪
1378
01:12:22,713 --> 01:12:24,631
Making art.
1379
01:12:26,091 --> 01:12:29,678
[Re] I've been doing a lot
of painting -- abstract form.
1380
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:34,016
Coming out and being a
creative person and an artist,
1381
01:12:34,058 --> 01:12:36,685
that's like, pff, shit,
you're not just coming out,
1382
01:12:36,727 --> 01:12:39,730
you're just trying
to discover yourself!
1383
01:12:39,772 --> 01:12:41,690
[Kisha VO] An identity is
something that you create
1384
01:12:41,732 --> 01:12:43,359
yourself -- something like art.
1385
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,486
[camera beeps and snaps]
1386
01:12:45,611 --> 01:12:48,655
It's a process, and
it's always changing.
1387
01:12:49,156 --> 01:12:52,242
It's an alignment
of self and soul.
1388
01:12:52,284 --> 01:12:56,872
♪♪♪
1389
01:12:56,914 --> 01:12:58,916
I rap, I make...
1390
01:12:58,957 --> 01:12:59,875
punk music.
1391
01:12:59,917 --> 01:13:02,878
It's really just
expressing my...
1392
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,546
intense ways.
1393
01:13:04,588 --> 01:13:08,759
♪♪♪
1394
01:13:08,801 --> 01:13:09,927
[snap]
1395
01:13:09,968 --> 01:13:12,388
[Kisha VO] It's
what we artists do.
1396
01:13:13,764 --> 01:13:14,181
[snap]
1397
01:13:14,223 --> 01:13:17,559
We feel deeply, we reflect...
1398
01:13:18,102 --> 01:13:18,894
[beep and snap]
1399
01:13:18,936 --> 01:13:23,232
take the pain and the pleasure,
1400
01:13:23,273 --> 01:13:27,111
and we try to make sense
of it all through our art.
1401
01:13:27,152 --> 01:13:30,239
Come out-- come out again soon.
1402
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:35,369
♪♪♪
1403
01:13:35,577 --> 01:13:38,914
[Kisha VO] A lot of my
gifts came from my mom.
1404
01:13:39,081 --> 01:13:42,418
[applause]
1405
01:13:42,459 --> 01:13:44,753
[Kisha] All right,
count of three!
1406
01:13:44,795 --> 01:13:45,921
[all] One!
1407
01:13:45,963 --> 01:13:47,089
Two!
1408
01:13:47,131 --> 01:13:48,257
Three!
1409
01:13:48,298 --> 01:13:51,635
[cheering and applause]
1410
01:13:51,677 --> 01:13:55,097
[Kisha VO] I am
beautiful, I am talented.
1411
01:13:55,139 --> 01:13:58,934
♪♪♪
1412
01:13:58,976 --> 01:14:00,894
I'm joyful.
1413
01:14:01,687 --> 01:14:04,148
I'm always evolving.
1414
01:14:06,024 --> 01:14:08,735
I define myself.
1415
01:14:09,695 --> 01:14:12,281
And I choose to be free.
1416
01:14:12,322 --> 01:14:17,411
♪♪♪
1417
01:14:20,664 --> 01:14:25,752
♪uptempo house music♪
1418
01:14:27,212 --> 01:14:28,630
♪Left♪
♪Go right♪
1419
01:14:28,672 --> 01:14:30,299
♪Ah, baby♪
♪Keep going♪
1420
01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:30,966
♪Don't stop...♪
1421
01:14:31,008 --> 01:14:34,178
Most of the lives of my
trans-cestors are kind of
1422
01:14:34,219 --> 01:14:38,515
invisible, so a documentary like
'The Aggressives' really brings
1423
01:14:38,557 --> 01:14:41,810
something
important to light, and...
1424
01:14:41,852 --> 01:14:43,937
I'm just very grateful for that.
1425
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:46,815
♪Move left♪
♪Move forward♪
1426
01:14:46,857 --> 01:14:48,484
♪Move right♪
♪Keep going♪
1427
01:14:48,525 --> 01:14:50,027
♪Don't stop♪
♪Right now♪
1428
01:14:50,068 --> 01:14:52,654
♪Uh-huh♪
♪That's how we do it♪
1429
01:14:53,697 --> 01:14:55,157
♪Left♪
♪Go right♪
1430
01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:56,700
♪Ah, baby♪
♪Keep going♪
1431
01:14:56,742 --> 01:14:58,327
♪Don't stop♪
♪Keep going...♪
1432
01:14:58,368 --> 01:15:02,498
Some might refer to me as
"an aggressive" or an "AG."
1433
01:15:02,539 --> 01:15:03,081
I don't mind.
1434
01:15:03,081 --> 01:15:04,833
I still think
it's very relevant.
1435
01:15:04,875 --> 01:15:06,126
[applause]
1436
01:15:06,168 --> 01:15:07,711
So we will be
screening 'The Aggressives,'
1437
01:15:07,753 --> 01:15:10,339
which we are really excited to
be sharing with you right now.
1438
01:15:10,380 --> 01:15:11,882
[in film] "Aggressive"...
1439
01:15:11,924 --> 01:15:13,509
is...
1440
01:15:13,550 --> 01:15:15,677
your strength, your courage...
1441
01:15:15,719 --> 01:15:17,804
your whole aura.
1442
01:15:18,222 --> 01:15:21,850
[Angie VO] I love the evolution
of the language we now have.
1443
01:15:21,892 --> 01:15:24,353
I feel it's very
liberating for a lot of people.
1444
01:15:24,394 --> 01:15:26,355
Now, we're moving towards
language that's a little bit
1445
01:15:26,396 --> 01:15:29,525
more inclusive because we are
understanding this variety of
1446
01:15:29,566 --> 01:15:31,026
gender identities.
1447
01:15:31,068 --> 01:15:32,528
People have evolved, you know?
1448
01:15:32,569 --> 01:15:33,862
♪Left♪
♪Go right♪
1449
01:15:33,904 --> 01:15:35,864
♪Ah, baby♪
♪Keep going...♪
1450
01:15:35,906 --> 01:15:38,742
We all have masculine and
feminine energy within us.
1451
01:15:38,784 --> 01:15:41,578
If a person's presenting
themselves the way they are,
1452
01:15:41,620 --> 01:15:42,746
just accept it.
1453
01:15:42,788 --> 01:15:44,540
There's still
room to kinda, like,
1454
01:15:44,581 --> 01:15:48,418
challenge perceptions and
ideas around-- around gender,
1455
01:15:48,460 --> 01:15:50,879
and, honestly, not to be
reduced to your parts.
1456
01:15:50,921 --> 01:15:53,423
As humans, we're all different,
but there are certain layers
1457
01:15:53,465 --> 01:15:54,550
that are the same.
1458
01:15:54,591 --> 01:15:56,760
If we do another
one of these in 10,
1459
01:15:56,802 --> 01:15:58,554
20 years, it'll be
completely different.
1460
01:15:58,595 --> 01:16:00,889
As the world changes, you know,
the way people identify will
1461
01:16:00,931 --> 01:16:04,226
change, the way people exist
in that world will change.
1462
01:16:04,268 --> 01:16:06,895
I think it's just part of,
like, human progression.
1463
01:16:06,937 --> 01:16:12,025
♪♪♪
1464
01:17:05,329 --> 01:17:06,622
♪Left♪
♪Go right♪
1465
01:17:06,663 --> 01:17:08,290
♪Ah, baby♪
♪Keep going♪
1466
01:17:08,332 --> 01:17:09,958
♪Don't stop♪
♪Keep going♪
1467
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,627
♪Move left♪
♪Move forward♪
1468
01:17:11,668 --> 01:17:13,295
♪Move right♪
♪Keep going♪
1469
01:17:13,337 --> 01:17:14,963
♪Don't stop♪
♪Right now♪
1470
01:17:15,005 --> 01:17:17,424
♪Uh-huh♪
♪That's how we do it♪
1471
01:17:18,508 --> 01:17:19,968
♪Left♪
♪Go right♪
1472
01:17:20,010 --> 01:17:21,470
♪Ah, baby♪
♪Keep going♪
1473
01:17:21,511 --> 01:17:23,138
♪Don't stop♪
♪Keep going♪
1474
01:17:23,180 --> 01:17:24,806
♪Move left♪
♪Move forward♪
1475
01:17:24,848 --> 01:17:26,475
♪Move right♪
♪Keep going♪
1476
01:17:26,516 --> 01:17:28,143
♪Don't stop♪
♪Right now♪
1477
01:17:28,185 --> 01:17:30,771
♪Uh-huh♪
♪That's how we do it♪
1478
01:17:31,688 --> 01:17:32,981
♪Left♪
♪Go right♪
1479
01:17:33,023 --> 01:17:34,650
♪Ah, baby♪
♪Keep going♪
1480
01:17:34,691 --> 01:17:36,318
♪Don't stop♪
♪Keep going♪
1481
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:37,986
♪Move left♪
♪Move forward♪
1482
01:17:38,028 --> 01:17:39,655
♪Move right♪
♪Keep going♪
1483
01:17:39,696 --> 01:17:41,323
♪Don't stop♪
♪Right now♪
1484
01:17:41,365 --> 01:17:44,117
♪Uh-huh♪
♪That's how we do it♪
1485
01:17:44,868 --> 01:17:49,956
♪♪♪
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