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DRUM BEATS
# Dear love, dear love
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# Let me tell you how I feel
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# You have given me so much pleasure
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# I love you so
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# Dear love, dear love
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# Let me tell you how I feel
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# You have given me so much pleasure
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# I love you so. #
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SHE SIGHS
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We've been
very purposefully manipulated,
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very intentionally and purposefully
manipulated for thousands of years.
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This isn't something new.
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The question is -
who's keeping us down?
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Q helped us figure that out
a little bit.
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Q said, "Start here
and go wherever it leads you."
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What if everything
that we've been taught is wrong?
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What we're living right now is
going to be known
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for the rest of our history
as the time of awakening.
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What have you awakened to?
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It's about the great awakening.
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INDISTINCT SHOUTING
SIRENS WAIL
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We live in a time where,
for some, truth no longer exists.
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We are fighting evil!
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CROWD SHOUTS IN AGREEMENT
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We are fighting cult members!
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Conspiracy theories, fake news,
claims of rigged elections,
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and unmitigated use of social media
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mean no-one has any idea
what to believe any more.
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How they persuaded billions around
the world
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to believe in their plan.
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You were trying to...
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In every corner of the world,
people are protesting.
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They've attacked US democracy,
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they've battled
on the streets of Britain,
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they're fighting back -
but what exactly are they fighting?
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You're inciting violence.
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Good lad, good lad.
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I'm about to enter a world
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where I, as the mainstream media,
am the enemy
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and where the people I meet believe
I'm an agent of dark forces
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who run the world
and abuse children.
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# You're liars, you're liars
You're liars, you are. #
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My mission is to unmask the figures
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taking conspiracy to the heart
of our political system
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and to meet the digital soldiers
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fighting for
a supposed government insider
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called Q.
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I'm in Elyria, Ohio,
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on my way to meet
two of Q's most ardent followers
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who plan to take their country back.
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Welcome to
the digital soldiers house!
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Ha-ha-ha.
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Dave Roberts and Amanda Quimper.
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You're filming us
for your documentary too?
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I'm filming you
because you're mainstream media.
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I got to make sure I get you.
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I do understand, to a degree.
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You know, I think people don't
really trust the media these days.
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That's why we're reluctant
to talk to you guys sometimes.
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How important is Q to
what you're doing?
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I think he laid the groundwork.
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He made the exposures.
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He opened the eyes of the people.
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Whoever Q is believes in God
and trying to fight
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so that God does win in the end.
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And all these paedophilias
and all these trafficking rings
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and all this structure in
the government, all this evilness,
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that's something that the cabal
has worked for centuries
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to keep us all asleep,
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and they've done
a very successful job of it.
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What is the cabal?
How would you describe it?
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The cabal, in my opinion, is
the organised elitists,
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the 1% of the 1%,
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which includes the Vatican
and the monarchies.
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People today are just now
beginning to wake up.
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I mean, they're just now beginning
to realise something's wrong
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and Q instigated that.
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We would never be anywhere near
where we are today
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if it wasn't for Q.
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So, some of what I'm about to
tell you may be hard to believe,
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but it's changed the course
of politics around the world.
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In October 2017,
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a figure called Q Clearance Patriot
appeared on the website 4Chan.
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They claimed to be
a government insider.
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Q started spreading
wild conspiracies -
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satanic paedophiles ruled the world,
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Trump was the saviour
against the evil cabal -
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and people believed it.
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With every share,
it became more mainstream.
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It soon became
the conspiracy of everything.
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Over the next four years, it spread
to millions across the globe.
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Followers shared, kidnapped,
killed, shared some more,
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and attacked the US Capitol,
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all in the name of Q.
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But then none of it came true.
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The cabal was never exposed,
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Trump lost the 2020 election
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and Q stopped posting forever
on December 8, 2020.
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Millions of manipulated
and radicalised people
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around the world were left
without a leader,
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so who's filling that void now?
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PHONE LINE RINGS OUT
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Hello? Hey, is that Pastor Mark?
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Who's speaking? It's Benjamin Zand.
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Oh, yes, yes. How are you doing?
I'm good, how are you?
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Q's followers are still meeting up
at events across the US,
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with or without Trump
in the White House.
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Mainstream journalists
are usually banned
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and even forcibly removed
from these events
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but I'd managed to get in.
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I'll text you the flights,
17th and the 18th,
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and I'll make sure
you get some credentials,
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so you've got to come out
for that, OK?
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Pastor Mark Burns was
a speaker at an event in California
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and he was keen for me to cover
his upcoming political campaign.
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Hello.
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Right, we've actually made it in
officially.
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How are y'all doing?
Good, sir, how are you?
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Good. Thank y'all so much.
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Hey, sir, how are you?
God bless you.
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Blessings to you, man.
Thank you so much.
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I love that. Thank you.
God bless y'all. How you doing? Hi.
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Hello, how are y'all doing?
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We don't.
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God bless y'all.
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This was a real who's who
in the world of alternate truths,
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figures like discredited
anti-vaccine doctor Andrew Wakefield
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were in attendance.
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You are never going to have
another fair election
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if we don't expose and fight
what happened in 2020.
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Roger Stone.
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I knew you had to be close.
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I've got to figure out
what I'm going to say.
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I'm about to walk around here,
man. All right.
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Love you, man. All right, thanks.
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You must fight.
The way to fight the information...
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Thousands of people had made
the trip to see their heroes
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and to uncover the next secret
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the mainstream media didn't want
them to know.
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How did you find yourself
in the world of Q, selling Q tops?
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Well, I got into Q
through my family.
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My dad and my brother followed Q,
um, but...
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My brother is into a
lot of spirituality stuff,
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you know, and so is Q.
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There was a real sense
of community here.
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Amidst the claims of a cabal,
a planned pandemic
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and Trump being the true president,
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there was a home for people to be
heard and to be their real selves.
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There was also a real feeling
of anger.
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APPLAUSE
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This is a full-blown world war
that we are in
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right at this very moment,
ladies and gentlemen.
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This is America,
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this is an American thing,
so fight with me.
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CHEERING
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We're in a time of warfare.
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This is no longer
a conspiracy theory,
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it's a conspiracy.
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CHEERING
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One of the biggest names
at these events is this guy
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Michael Flynn.
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He's a former three-star general
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and was a national-security adviser
to Donald Trump.
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Q itself regularly defended Flynn
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so many followers see him
as a potential leader.
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CHANTING: Fight like Flynn!
Fight like Flynn! Fight like Flynn!
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We are going to take this
country back.
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CHEERING
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I'm driving to meet a man
called Dustin Nemos.
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Dustin is, like, one of
the earliest adopters of Q.
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He's quite a big name
in the Q-verse.
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He even literally wrote
the book on Q.
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Hello.
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Are we thinking here? Um...
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I was just looking around. I don't
know what works for you guys.
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This is beautiful. Ah, yeah,
that's interesting, isn't it?
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Disciples like Dustin
made their money and fame
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interpreting the religion of Q.
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But Q's disappearance created
a power vacuum,
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so what happens now?
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Are you still a follower of Q?
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You know, half the world is
following it so...
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Forbes had it quoted,
and this is an old number,
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that over 56%
of the Republican party
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had, in some level,
agreement with Q.
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Do you believe in the idea
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that there is a satanic cabal
raping kids?
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I think that there are
powerful people
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who openly identify with Satanism.
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I don't think that they get together
in the White House every Tuesday
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and, like, order, you know, $20,000
worth of pizza to be flown in 2am...
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Wait, Obama did that, but, you know,
most of the time they don't do that.
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When Dustin mentions pizza here,
he actually means children.
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It's a well-known code word
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from the debunked
Pizzagate conspiracy of 2016
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that alleged top Democrats
were paedophiles.
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I believe Obama is a child molester.
You think he abuses kids?
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I believe that he does.
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I don't believe
those are even his kids.
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I mean, his wife is not a woman.
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You think his wife's a man?
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Anybody got any shots
of Michelle Obama pregnant?
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Love to see it.
You also believe that she's a man?
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It's not about belief, I do facts.
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The reality of the world is
much different
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than you've been told on fake news.
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You think the reality of the world
is that Michelle Obama has a penis
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and Barack Obama is abusing kids
in the White House?
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That is more believable than
Joe Biden won the 2020 election.
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You find it not odd that we don't
have shots of the first family?
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I do believe that,
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based on multiple videos...
So why spread it?
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But you need, like, evidence
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that's kind of substantive
beyond a video.
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I believe we can make
a very good case,
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including people who
are biological experts
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who can weigh the Adam's apple,
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measure the shoulders
and all of that,
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that Michelle Obama is a man.
A transgender woman?
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His wife is better hung than I am.
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And I've seen it on YouTube,
multiple videos.
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Cos that's definitely
on the wilder side.
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I'll ask one final question.
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The future of Q is now the
influencers like yourself?
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We're gonna take the country back.
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We're getting people
elected into office.
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The fake news - or,
forgive me, the media - are...
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You know, they're already writing
a lot of articles about that,
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nervous about the QAnon people
running for office.
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Um, many of them
are barely connected.
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I can't wait till I run for Congress
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cos they're really gonna lombast me.
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Are you gonna run?
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Probably. Yeah, probably.
When d'you think that'll be?
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Er, next couple of months, maybe.
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Oh, right, for the
midterms next year?
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Yeah, 2022.
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Dustin's views about Michelle Obama
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are completely ridiculous
and untrue,
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but it's a clear example
of how in the world of Q
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it's more important to pick a side
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than to seek truth.
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The question I had, though,
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was whether Dustin could really
make it in the world of politics.
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Another alleged Q supporter,
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Marjorie Taylor Greene,
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had done exactly that in 2020.
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America's the greatest
country in the world.
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She was elected
to Congress in Georgia
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and is one of Conservative America's
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most prominent figures.
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Q is a patriot.
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We know that for sure.
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But we do not know who Q is.
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She's since distanced herself
from the Q movement.
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But all this made me think of
someone I'd seen in California
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with Pastor Mark.
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Saw your parents out there.
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I knew you had to be close.
PASTOR MARK CHUCKLES
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That right there is Roger Stone,
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one of the most important
political figures in the US
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over the last 30 years.
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This is a guy who
helped get presidents -
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from Richard Nixon
to Donald Trump - in office.
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He's often called the kingmaker
of Republican presidents.
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Here he is with Donald Trump,
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who pardoned him in 2020
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after Stone was convicted of
obstructing an investigation
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that would have harmed
the President.
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And now here he was at a conference
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attended by thousands
of Q supporters.
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Was this a clear sign of the next
stage of the Q movement -
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cementing itself at
the top of global politics?
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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I am living proof
that God can do anything.
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APPLAUSE
WHOOPING
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Yes, Ma'am?
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We need a leader right now.
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It should be Michael Flynn.
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Some of you will have an opportunity
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to see General Flynn
when he comes to speak.
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You should tell him
exactly what Caroline said.
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I think he is a man of destiny,
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I think he is a man of courage.
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So I do think that he is potentially
the leader for this movement.
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Pastor Mark. There you go, hello!
How you doing?
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VOICEOVER: To try and find out
just what Roger's plan is,
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I asked Pastor Mark
to arrange an interview.
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PASTOR MARK: Here's THE one...
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..and only Roger...Stone. Stone!
CHUCKLING
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My brother. Aw, man!
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Oh, man. Hey, you're losing weight.
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Isn't this the dream team
right here?
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Good to see you, Roger.
How are you, my brother?
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You're looking good.
Wow, to God be the glory.
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We're just gonna go and do
an interview with Roger Stone.
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And right next door to us,
where we've parked,
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there are two cars
with QAnon memorabilia.
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This is the unconditional pardon
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given to me by President Trump
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when he concluded that
I did not get a fair trial
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and I was indicted on politically
motivated charges. Look at this.
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Is this The Avengers?
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You're trying to fight
crime for America.
THEY LAUGH
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You've sorted out...
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Come on, Captain America!
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We're gonna do an interview
to make sure... Captain America!
THEY LAUGH
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This is where I rip open my shirt
and go... Here you go.
THEY LAUGH
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I'd like to see your initial
reaction to the question of
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what are your feelings on QAnon?
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CHUCKLING
I guess what I would say is
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I don't know if it's real,
but I sure hope it is.
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If that person wakes up and
starts watching alternative media
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and isn't getting
all their news from CNN,
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if that person gets
registered and votes,
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then I think we've
accomplished something.
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I'm pretty sure that there's
some truth to some of those things.
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Donald Trump should have
won the election. Yes.
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I believe without question
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there was some form of
tampering that took place.
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You could argue that the Q movement
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is actually so beneficial to people
like yourself, you know?
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It's a movement that says
Donald Trump is the saviour,
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it's a movement that...
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Michael Flynn is a messiah.
Well, what you correctly say...
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Here's what I know.
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I love the First Amendment. Yeah.
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I love people's right to say
whatever they think is true
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and try to defend their position.
Yeah.
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We do have a historical record here.
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We were told Saddam Hussein had
weapons of mass destruction,
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but that was a lie.
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So let's not pretend that everything
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the government tells us is true.
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Frankly, we've got a clean house
in the Republican party.
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Trump has taken us from being
the party of the country club
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to being the party
of working people.
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If Trump doesn't run again,
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I notice that Michael Flynn
attends a lot of these events.
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Do you think he is a potential
candidate for presidency?
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I want to make it very clear,
I'm for Donald Trump.
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So in the event that
he does not run,
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I would certainly
look to General Flynn
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as one who might be drafted.
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All right, gentlemen,
good to see you all.
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Can we just get some verbal
consent from you?
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Er, yes, you can
use all that stuff -
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even though you're obsessed with Q.
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THEY LAUGH
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These guys are kind of the
who's who at events like this
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that are attended by a huge amount
of QAnon supporters.
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Roger Stone is a bit of a hero
in these circles.
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They're all very good friends
with Michael Flynn.
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The FBI has labelled Q and its
supporters a domestic terror threat,
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but here was Roger Stone
seemingly embracing the movement
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and using it for political gain.
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CHEERING
CAR HORNS BEEP
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The more I looked, the more I found
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political candidates were
making the assessment
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that if they wanted to win a seat,
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Q's conspiracy and misinformation
were the way to do it.
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I stand with President Trump.
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I stand with Q and the team.
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Everything that I've heard of Q...
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..I hope that this is real.
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Reporting suggests almost
50 congressional candidates
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have embraced Q
in their bids for election in 2022.
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CHEERING
And that doesn't include
those running for Senate.
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One thing these candidates
have in common
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is that the vast majority
are Republicans,
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they're deeply religious
and deeply Conservative.
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Most are scared
of the mainstream media,
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but I found one who is eager
for me to join her campaign.
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My name is Kimberly Lowe.
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I'm running for Congress in the
fifth congressional district,
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which is right here.
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We are at war right now.
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We have had a planned pandemic
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to destroy this country,
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to destroy our businesses,
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to pull us out of church...
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..to depopulate and to steal
an American election.
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Please support me.
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Thank you, guys.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Kimberly's kids don't go
to mainstream school,
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as she's worried
they'll be indoctrinated.
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COW MOOS
Come on!
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She also questions
whether Covid is real.
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And inevitably,
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the topic of the coronavirus vaccine
came up between us.
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I've had two vaccines.
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Oh, right! I'm so sorry.
KIMBERLY LAUGHS
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Do things stick to you
like you see on TV?
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What, like magnets?
Have you tried that?
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Shall we try it?
If it sticks to me...
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OK, so it has to go
to your forehead.
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Is it sticking?
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I don't think so, I think
you're good. It's not sticking.
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LAUGHING: I think you're OK!
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Is that...? So what...?
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Does that change your opinion on...?
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No, not at all. Why?
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I would never get that vaccine.
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It all comes down to trust,
doesn't it?
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It comes down to trust
in higher bodies
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and I think ultimately the issue is
that you don't trust the government.
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Correct.
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In her run for Congress,
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Kimberly believes she has
a helping hand from Q itself.
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GUNSHOT ECHOES
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One day I got a phone call
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from Q followers
types of individuals
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and they told me that
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I needed to stay on the path I'm on
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and that I was being protected
and I just had to continue on
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because I was going to be part
of whatever, you know,
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future was to come here in America,
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regarding politics, etc.
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Trump wanted to stop
this trafficking.
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He had an entire
anti-trafficking team
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that he put in the White House.
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They're pulling people
and children out of tunnels.
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I know one woman who was trafficked
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who grew up in a tunnel system
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somewhere in the Midwest.
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She says that there's tunnels.
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Has she provided proof?
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I haven't asked for it, so
how do I know? Why not?
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That's why I'm here. How do I know?
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Is there anything that could
disprove that for you?
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Probably not.
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Believing in these...
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What some people call
conspiracies or alternative truths,
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you know, it does have
actual consequences.
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If you are saying those things
without adequate evidence,
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there is a responsibility on you.
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What is dangerous
is media dividing a country.
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The election was stolen.
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I fully believe that. I just can't
roll stuff off my mouth.
I need to learn it...
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But just because you believe it,
doesn't make it true.
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But it doesn't make me dangerous.
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But the truth is, no matter how hard
it was for Kimberly to accept,
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the conspiracies of Q
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are pushing people
further and further to the edge.
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Some far enough
they're willing to kill.
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REPORTER: Sheriff's Deputy say
33-year-old Neely Petrie-Blanchard
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shot and killed
Christopher Hallett on Sunday.
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Q's followers are told
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that an elitist cabal
are raping children,
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rigging elections
and depopulating the Earth.
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And when you believe all that,
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just how far are you willing to go
to save the world?
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REPORTER: Sheriff's Deputy say
33-year-old Neely Petrie-Blanchard
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shot and killed Christopher Hallett
on Sunday.
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Since the rise of Q,
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around 100 people have
committed crimes in its name,
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ranging from kidnapping to
weapon offenses to murder.
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WOMAN ON PHONE: Are you in a
pretty nice neighbourhood?
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Yeah.
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Well, then maybe you're here.
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Hi. Hello, is this the right house?
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Yes. This is the right house!
Aw, amazing.
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Get back, Rosie!
And you're dirty on top of it.
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You need a bath.
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She's a cute dog you got.
She's a cute dog...
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Straight legs!
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Hold!
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Neely Petrie-Blanchard
was a normal mother from Kentucky,
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until she lost custody of
her daughter, McKenzie.
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From that moment on,
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she fell down the rabbit hole.
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Ever since she lost McKenzie,
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she's struggled.
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She was on the computer
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all day long,
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looking at this stuff. It was...
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Every day she thought
QAnon was...President Trump.
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She spent hours a day
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trying to figure out
who Q actually was.
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Was Q, then, this...
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..way to get her kid back?
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Mm-hmm. Yes. Was that what it was?
Was that her main focus?
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Yeah, that was her main focus.
She somehow fell into this...
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They were all involved
in Satanic worshipping... Yeah.
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She believed there was a city
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under New York city that kept kids.
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Through the community of Q,
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Neely discovered
Christopher Hallett.
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He claimed to be a legal expert
who knew Trump personally
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and promised to reunite her
with her child.
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For a time, Neely thought Hallett
may even have been Q.
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NEELY ON LAPTOP: People have been
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persecuted in family courts
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all over this nation...
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..for a very long time.
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"Sleepers everywhere.
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"Think coats.
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"Wheels in motion. Q."
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I mean, does that make sense to you?
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Like, it doesn't...
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It doesn't make sense to me.
502
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,680
Looks like they haven't posted
on here since December 8th 2020,
503
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,120
so I guess, erm,
504
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,080
I don't know if they've
changed the website
505
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,880
or where they're, you know,
posting their stuff now.
506
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,920
Q has not posted since December 8th.
507
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,280
Really?
508
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,840
He just disappeared?
509
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,960
It's just disappeared, yeah. It.
510
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000
Wow.
511
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,240
That's a shock to me.
512
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,080
That's kind of...
513
00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:37,520
SAVANNAH EXHALES
I don't know how I feel about that.
514
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,040
Kind of like it was
all for nothing, I guess.
515
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,360
Wow.
516
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,440
QUIETLY: Sorry.
517
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,320
She put so much
518
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,400
and dedicated so much of her time
519
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,320
to this for so long.
520
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,000
Would it have been easier if
the whole conspiracy was real
521
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,680
cos then at least Neely would have
done it for something?
522
00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,720
Yeah.
523
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,040
Yeah, absolutely.
524
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,200
Um...
525
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,720
You know, she fully believed that
526
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,800
she was doing it to protect
all these children and...
527
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,000
But there wasn't really
anything that we could do.
528
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,680
How do you help someone
that is so far in it?
529
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,640
I mean, I think
that's our biggest regret,
530
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,560
was feeling like we kind of...
531
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,440
..pushed her away
532
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,240
and did that push her more into Q
533
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,720
and these conspiracies
534
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,720
because she didn't
have anybody else?
535
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,200
BOTH: Double that.
536
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,800
Double, double this. Ooh!
537
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,000
THEY LAUGH
That. OK.
538
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,680
The story ended when
the onslaught of conspiracies
539
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,080
made Neely paranoid.
540
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,320
She stopped trusting
Christopher Hallett.
541
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,680
She became convinced
he was plotting against her,
542
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,880
so she shot him dead.
543
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,040
REPORTER:
33-year-old Neely Petrie-Blanchard
544
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,600
shot and killed
Christopher Hallett on Sunday.
545
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,720
Blanchard is awaiting expedition
back to Marion County.
546
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000
Neely's now awaiting trial
547
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,760
and can only talk to her family
548
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,720
from Marion County Jail in Florida.
549
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,520
Hey! KIDS: Hi!
550
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,360
Let me turn the volume up.
551
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,120
NEELY: I love you, girls!
552
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,840
Mommy misses you!
553
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,920
Miss you too.
554
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,200
Guess what, Mom!
555
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,960
We fed the bunnies, gave them
a salad and they loved them.
556
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,640
Aw! I love your bunnies.
557
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,240
Yeah, y'all sing that.
558
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,200
KIDS: # We are the fireflies
559
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,320
# We like to fly around. Bling-bling
560
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,800
# With our yellow band and ugly
bling-bling, gone, bye. #
561
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,720
Isn't that so cute?
562
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,000
I love you.
563
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,360
KIDS: Love you! Bye!
564
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,080
Can you do the other half?
565
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,880
Huggies! Hugs.
566
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,840
So how do you feel
after talking to your mama?
567
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,240
Er...
568
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,680
How do you feel? Weird.
569
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,720
Weird? OK.
570
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,200
Why do you feel weird?
571
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,040
Because, like, we're talking
to her on a phone.
572
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,560
Not, like, in person.
573
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,440
What do you know
about why she's there?
574
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,680
Um, because... Yes.
575
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,000
I know. I know why.
576
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,560
Oh, you know why?
577
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,440
She made a bad choice, didn't she?
578
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,520
Mm-hmm.
579
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,880
Can't let our emotions
get out of hand.
580
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,760
Did you ever think
it could get to this point?
581
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,920
That she'd be in prison
off the back of shooting a man?
582
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,040
Never...
583
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,640
..in 1 million years
would we have imagined
584
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,160
that we would be in this situation.
You know?
585
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,680
CHUCKLING: Don't cry.
586
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,040
Yeah, and then it all hits.
Uh-huh. Um...
587
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,440
The girls, you know,
588
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,560
I wonder how it's
gonna affect their lives.
589
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,040
It worries me.
590
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,440
Now they all possibly
could lose their mother forever.
591
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,680
To this day,
592
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,680
Neely still believes Q
and Donald Trump will save her.
593
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,120
Her story makes me wonder
594
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,320
just how much trauma plays a part
595
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,640
in people's descent
down the rabbit hole.
596
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,360
After losing her children
and struggling with her life,
597
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,920
Q and conspiracy
offered Neely comfort.
598
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,400
It gave her a way out.
599
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,000
All right, we're convening
this meeting.
600
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,480
It's July 1st 2021.
601
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,040
I feared for Amanda and Dave,
602
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,640
the two ardent Q followers
I'd met earlier.
603
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,240
They seem like good people.
604
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,240
They were convinced that
605
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,440
they had to defeat
the evil of the world.
606
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,400
Can we get a photo before the storm?
607
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,720
VOICEOVER: But at what cost?
608
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720
How have your family
reacted to the Q?
609
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,760
My kids don't wanna...
610
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,680
You know, they don't wanna
talk to me, they don't call me.
611
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,960
We're not close because of their
feelings, what their beliefs are...
612
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,600
They don't wanna hear this.
613
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,520
When I started speaking out
about all this stuff, my...
614
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,760
Um...
615
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,120
You know, my family all just
were like, "What the heck?!"
616
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,280
Cos I just was like, I wasn't gonna
hold anything back and...
617
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,520
So...
618
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,760
It just came out of nowhere for them
619
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,200
and I just...
620
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080
..you know, threw up all over them.
621
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:58,920
Pretty much. That's normal.
AMANDA LAUGHS
622
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,280
What's it like to not be believed?
623
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,280
It is what it is and, you know,
after God comes to you in a dream
624
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,480
and tells you all this crap is
going on you're kind of like,
625
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,640
"Oh. This crap is going on."
626
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,680
So...
627
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,640
So there's nothing that could kind
of prove it wrong in your mind?
628
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,840
Er, no.
629
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,840
No because I've seen the evil.
630
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,360
And there's a coming, OK?
631
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,480
There's a reckoning.
632
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,120
And, er, this reign
of evil is over with.
633
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,800
And we're moving
into a new era of time.
634
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,360
No-one I had met was willing to
consider they could be wrong.
635
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,480
It was all just too important.
636
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,280
For Amanda, this was
a calling from God.
637
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,520
To show me what made her first
venture down the rabbit hole,
638
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720
Amanda asked me to meet her
at the place it all began -
639
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,760
her work.
640
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,480
LOW-PITCHED OBOE PLAYS
PLUCKING STRINGS
641
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,200
Can I see the shot real quick?
642
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,720
Of course you can. Hold on.
643
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,720
You seem to be very sensitive
about your appearance.
644
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,520
Probably because society
programs you to believe that...
645
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,480
..you need to be pretty to be loved.
646
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,040
STRINGS BUILD
647
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,600
Where are we and what do you do?
648
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000
We are at an exotic dance club.
649
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,400
This is not what you want
your kid to grow up and do.
650
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,840
A lot of girls come here
lost and broken
651
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,960
and they need help.
652
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,240
And they're hurting and...
653
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,160
And they're not here any more.
654
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,880
How did you find yourself here?
655
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,160
When I was 18 in high school,
656
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,880
all I wanted to do was
become an actress, so...
657
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,480
..I put myself through
two years of college,
658
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,800
I come home and...
659
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,280
I live in the heart
of the heroin epidemic.
660
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,080
All my friends were on heroin.
661
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800
My best friend's no longer
with us cos she died.
662
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,280
She used to work here.
663
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,000
Sorry to hear that.
664
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,280
AMANDA EXHALES
665
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,640
EERIE CHATTER ECHOES
666
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,320
I've only known you
for a matter of days.
667
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,960
But it feels like, you know,
668
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,040
you genuinely really want
669
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,000
to do some good in the world.
670
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,160
But you're not sure
671
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,520
how best to do that.
672
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,400
I just...
673
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,160
I wanna help the lost and broken.
674
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,480
How do you do that?
AMANDA EXHALES
675
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,800
I've been guided to be in this club.
676
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,240
I had a girl that...
677
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,920
..worked with me here.
678
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,440
I remember crying out to God, like,
"I'm so tired of this, I..."
679
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,160
"I just, I just want out, I'm done,
I'm done, God, I'm done."
680
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,680
But everything inside of me was
like, "You still need to be here."
681
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,320
DISTANT CHEERING ECHOES
682
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,880
It sounds kind of lonely.
683
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,480
Yeah. It can be a very lonely walk.
684
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,080
And no-one understands it.
685
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Cos they're not walking
in your shoes.
686
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,160
Amanda's story just makes me feel
687
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,240
a bit sad, to be honest.
688
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,080
It's clear why Q is so important
689
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,040
and why it's so hard to let go.
690
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,840
It makes her life worthwhile
691
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,400
and I think it also shows why
692
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,680
she's never gonna not
drink the Kool-Aid.
693
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,960
But it's also scary
694
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,840
because when you believe
something so ardently
695
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,960
and you are willing to
literally die for that cause,
696
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,800
what is the end goal?
697
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,080
VIOLIN BOWS RESTLESSLY
698
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,040
CROWD CHANTING:
We love Trump! We love Trump!
699
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,520
We love Trump! We love Trump!
700
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,800
RHYTHMIC CLAPPING
We love Trump! We love Trump
701
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,400
I wonder what I will
be proved right about next.
702
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,240
Perhaps it will be the election.
703
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,600
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
VIOLIN CRESCENDOS
704
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,760
WHISTLING
We will never, ever surrender!
705
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,360
All over the world,
706
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,520
an online conspiracy movement
that started in the US
707
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,280
was finding its way
to the top of politics.
708
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,320
CAR HORN BEEPS
Lies of a cabal
709
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,000
and fake claims of rigged elections
710
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,400
were being used
in order to win votes.
711
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,160
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
In the weird world of Q,
712
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,880
Donald Trump was the saviour.
713
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,240
But as Q disappeared
from public view
714
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,360
and Trump failed to win re-election,
715
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,600
new leaders had stepped
into the frame.
716
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,440
Defeating these murderers!
717
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920
Michael Flynn,
along with Mike Lindell,
718
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,080
was at the top of
the conspiracy tree.
719
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760
We will get through this
and get back to a place
720
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,400
that's stronger and safer than ever.
721
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,440
Flynn is a powerful figure.
722
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,120
He's a close confidante of Trump
723
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,360
and reached the very top
of the US military
724
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,720
as a three-star general.
725
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,320
He made headlines
after he filmed himself
726
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,440
doing a pledge
associated with QAnon.
727
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,480
ALL: I...
THEIR VOICES DROWN EACH OTHER OUT
728
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,360
..Flynn. Do solemnly swear.
729
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,800
ALL: Do solemnly swear.
730
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,200
Where we go one, we go all.
Where we go one, we go all.
731
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,240
God bless America.
732
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,760
Flynn and his family say
733
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,640
this has nothing to do with Q
734
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,880
and that it's simply a family
statement of support to one another.
735
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,440
But he's a superstar
amongst Q supporters.
736
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,880
Where does Michael Flynn
kind of fit into it all?
737
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Michael Flynn, yeah, I think he's
definitely one of the biggest names.
738
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,720
I mean, I think that he has
something to do with it.
739
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,920
I definitely think it's a military
operation - a positive one.
740
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,880
It's just about spreading truth
and exposing the corruption.
741
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,320
When they find out a crime was
committed, i.e. election crime,
742
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,480
you put the winner back in.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
743
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,200
WHISTLING
744
00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:12,120
Mike Lindell is the owner
of a $1 billion pillow brand
745
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,640
called My Pillow.
746
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Mike Lindell of My Pillow,
747
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,400
boy, do you sell those pillows,
it's unbelievable.
748
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,920
He also denies any connection to Q,
749
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,280
but he's become a hero
to Q supporters
750
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,840
for peddling conspiracies
that the US election
751
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,200
was rigged against Trump.
752
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,440
SIRENS BLARE
753
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,360
Michael Flynn's name
had continually popped up
754
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,720
as a potential leader
of this movement,
755
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,640
and even a future President.
756
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,320
But how did he feel about
his alleged associations to Q?
757
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,640
And would he defend
the conspiracies?
758
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,360
Both of the Mikes
hate the mainstream media
759
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,280
and pretty much never do interviews,
760
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,560
but once again, through the help
of Pastor Mark Burns,
761
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,800
I'd made it in.
762
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Today is quite a big day.
763
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,480
I've finally got an interview
with Michael Flynn.
764
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,440
I've been trying
to do this for weeks.
765
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,160
There's been a lot of false starts.
766
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,640
I didn't think it was gonna happen,
to be honest,
767
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,720
and then all of a sudden I was told
that if I come to Los Angeles,
768
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,680
I would be able to have
some time with him.
769
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,840
It's gonna be quite a challenge,
770
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,920
but it's an important day
in the world of Q -
771
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,680
for me, at least.
772
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,600
HORN BLARES
773
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,160
WOMAN GIGGLES
Seriously. All right.
774
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,160
Am I meant to sit here?
775
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,080
I wanna get five minutes with you.
Yes. The general's here now.
776
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,360
I'm looking at him. That's right.
THEY LAUGH
777
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,840
I was finally in the room
with two of the most powerful men
778
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,440
in the world of alternate truth.
779
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,400
It must have been about, I suppose,
around 8th January and then...
780
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,560
Yeah. I was thrown off of Twitter.
781
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,000
Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.
Around about 8th, 9th, yeah.
782
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,960
Are you guys ready to rock and roll?
783
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,960
Yeah. Let's do it.
784
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,240
Do you think realistically
in the next few months
785
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,560
Trump might be reinstated?
786
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,200
There's no more conspiracy theory
about election fraud.
787
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,560
3, November 2020
in a presidential election.
788
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,960
It's no more a theory.
It is a conspiracy.
789
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,240
Would I like to see a reinstatement?
790
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,280
You're damn right, I'd like to see a
reinstatement of President Trump.
791
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,480
Mike, am I right
in thinking that by August
792
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,960
Trump might be back in office?
793
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,120
Yeah, we're out by a little bit,
it could be September.
794
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,680
It's worth remembering
that there's zero evidence
795
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,520
to support the theory
the election was stolen.
796
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,360
America's Attorney General
threw out 60 cases
797
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,320
and in September 2021,
798
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,480
the audit in Arizona
that they're referencing
799
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,040
confirmed that Joe Biden
won the election.
800
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,480
Why do you think there's
such a disparity, I suppose,
801
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,440
in thinking in
the States at the moment?
802
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,240
Some people would say there hasn't
been evidence of election fraud.
803
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,200
A lot of these cases
were thrown out.
804
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:51,680
Donald Trump won
80 million to 68 million.
805
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:54,240
This was massive. Every state,
it happened in.
806
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,280
The evidence is clear.
807
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,240
I mean, there's been
a ton of evidence.
808
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,960
All you gotta do is read it
809
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,160
and hopefully the media
one of these days will...
810
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,360
honest journalists will
figure it out and report it.
811
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,600
It's a crime that happened
812
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,120
against every citizen
of the United States of America.
813
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,160
Mm-hmm. Yep.
814
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,360
One thing that is
kind of hard to escape
815
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,360
is the movement around
the perimeters here, QAnon.
816
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,240
What's your opinion on Q?
817
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,960
What is it?
818
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920
You know what it is at this point.
819
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,280
A group of people
that don't like paedophilia?
820
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,520
What's your opinion on it?
821
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,000
Is it good, is it bad?
822
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,480
I think that
paedophilia is disgusting.
823
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,520
Is Q a domestic terror threat?
824
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,880
Is that your...
825
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Is that what it is?
826
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,600
I don't know. I don't know.
827
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,840
You've become quite
a central figure of it.
828
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,040
The kind of messiah of that...
Really?
829
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,960
Yeah, yeah, for sure, if you look
outside, some of the T-shirts.
830
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,640
What're you asking me about?
I mean, get to the point.
831
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,800
That is the point. Are you happy
that you're being associated with Q?
832
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,160
If there's somebody against
paedophilia, I'm with them.
833
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,880
Yeah, cos I think... Cos they're
against paedophilia, I mean, right?
834
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,640
So is paedophilia good or bad?
835
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,960
To you? Right?
836
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,360
Now, I know you won't even...
Yeah, I definitely don't think
paedophilia is good.
837
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,840
See, you won't even play that.
838
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,280
Why would I not play that?
Because I know your...
839
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,200
..organisation. See,
but this is the thing...
You're asking a stupid question.
840
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,880
You wouldn't even ask that
if you were doing an interview.
841
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,800
But why is it a stupid question?
You're here to interview us.
842
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,680
This is the big life. It doesn't
matter who stands behind us or
doesn't... Exactly. Yeah.
843
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,640
The evidence, the truth
shall set you free.
844
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,600
This'll once again
be one nation under God.
845
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,040
I've no idea what QAnon is,
I really don't know...
846
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,960
You don't know what QAnon is?
I've no idea... Are you serious?
847
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,320
I don't. But let me tell you what
you need to do. You've both been
asked about it multiple times.
848
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,240
You've the privilege of interviewing
General Flynn and Mike Lindell...
Why's it so offensive?
849
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,080
I'm just asking a question.
I think the interview's over.
Wasted my time.
850
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,560
Why does it need to be offensive?
851
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,560
There's people here
it means a lot to...
Because that's what you all are.
852
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,120
That's such a joke, what you did.
OK. Thank you very much.
853
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,640
Shame on you. It's people like you
that have hurt our country.
854
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,800
I'm not sure that's the truth,
but thanks a lot for your time.
855
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,320
Hey, quick question -
what company are you guys with?
856
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Channel 4. Channel 4. Local?
857
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,040
No, no, it's in the UK.
858
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,640
Oh, UK. OK. Got you.
859
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,600
All right. Do you work
with Michael Flynn?
860
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,200
No. No. All right, OK.
861
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,200
I think Mark's in trouble now.
862
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,160
He's led us into the world of Q
863
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,360
and we asked the questions
we weren't meant to,
864
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,080
and now everyone's
freaking the hell out.
865
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,760
Hey, Mark. Dude, that's bad!
I thought...
866
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,880
I want to put y'all in front of
people, but you can't do that, man.
867
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,360
What, ask about Q?
868
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,200
Brother.
869
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:25,560
We asked you about Q, though.
870
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,280
Yes, but... You...
HE SIGHS
871
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Really? You can't do that.
872
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,400
We asked you about it, we asked
Roger about it, no-one had an issue.
873
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,440
Courtney! I didn't realise there'd
be such a...
874
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,160
If there's anything that's
controversial, you may want to just
875
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,200
ask us about it and so that... Maybe
it would help to understand why...
876
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,440
Because I can't bring nobody else,
like... We're not...
877
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,400
He's got our microphone.
He's wearing our microphone.
878
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,920
MAN: You guys from Channel 4?
879
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,320
We are the Channel 4 dudes. I'm
going to need you to go out that
way.
880
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,880
OK. Thank you. We just need to
get our microphone back.
881
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,040
Who are you with?
Channel 4.
882
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,320
I'll go find it, give me just a
second. You guys can't go there.
Yeah, please.
883
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,920
Yeah, yeah. God, yeah.
884
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,880
All right, we just got kicked out.
885
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,680
What an ungraceful ending, eh?
886
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,640
This is politics today, not just in
the States, but in the UK, you know?
887
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,760
You ask certain questions,
conversations just get
888
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,200
shut down, and there's no
meeting in the middle.
889
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,360
They're probably surrounded by
so many yes-men that they've
890
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,440
lost all semblance of the truth,
and that's what makes them
891
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,800
so dangerous, because ultimately...
892
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,960
..they're willing to undermine
US democracy,
893
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,680
they're willing to
call on people to fight.
894
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:34,280
I've been having conversations this
whole time with people who
895
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,160
feel like Q is their life. They're
literally willing to die for it.
896
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,240
They're also willing to
die for the likes of Michael Flynn
and Mike Lindell.
897
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,280
Very sad.
898
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,640
CROWD CHANTS: Freedom! Freedom!
Freedom! Freedom!
899
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,400
WOMAN: Freedom! Freedom!
900
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,640
The Q movement has
spread around the world,
901
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,480
and its digital soldiers can be
found right on our doorstep.
902
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,920
This is satanic! CROWD: Yes!
903
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,160
According to our exclusive
polling in partnership with YouGov,
904
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,800
58% of Brits think satanic ritual
abuse of children probably
905
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,840
happens, and 10% of the British
public believe
906
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,240
the UK Government need to be
overthrown by force.
907
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Both of these beliefs have direct
links to the QAnon movement.
908
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,480
The worst case scenario is they're
being sacrificed
909
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:29,160
to the devil in satanic rituals.
910
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,800
I think Trump's going to be able to
save us all. I think...
911
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,560
Because there's so much corruption
that's going to come across to
912
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,360
this country,
that's come across from America.
913
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,880
Because we're part of it.
914
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000
This is no conspiracy.
915
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,520
Most of them in there are evil,
916
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,880
and underpinning it all has been
a trade for centuries
917
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,440
that is going on, and it's the trade
of children.
918
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,440
Eight million children go missing
every year.
919
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,880
Where do they go?
920
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,080
In Nazi Germany, it wasn't
overnight!
921
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,280
They change the Mental Health Act,
922
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,800
they passed all the same laws
923
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,440
that are being passed now.
924
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,360
At the Nuremberg trials,
the doctors and nurses stood trial,
925
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,680
and they hung!
926
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:17,800
This is Kate Shemirani,
927
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,480
the pre-eminent figure in the world
of British conspiracy at the moment.
928
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,640
That was her suggesting NHS doctors
and nurses could be tried
929
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,200
and even hung for their part
in the UK's vaccination programme.
930
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,960
Kate's a former nurse who
was struck off.
931
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,160
She uses the NHS
and her anti-vaccine
932
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,560
beliefs as a rallying cry,
and has given the conspiracies
933
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,240
of satanic abusers and the deep
state a uniquely British edge.
934
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,280
Hi, how are you? Hey, Kate,
how you doing? Nice to meet you.
935
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,920
You too.
936
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,040
It's always good to get
the initial reaction.
937
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,240
That's all right, nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
938
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,760
I hear you're a Scouser.
I am, yeah. I'm a Scouser indeed.
939
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,600
I'm just locking you in, fellas,
so you can't leave.
940
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,720
No, no, no...
941
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,880
Come into my... Come into my garage
food store,
942
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,200
my bikes, my gym.
943
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,560
Right now, I'm looking at what the
Government is doing
944
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:20,400
and I don't want to be governed by
what I see are people that are
945
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,920
completely overstepping the powers
that have been bestowed upon them
946
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,360
by us, the people.
947
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,880
So the right channels need to be
used to cease their power.
948
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,000
In real-life, Kate was friendly and
hospitable,
949
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,440
a world away from the preacher
screaming about Satan in Trafalgar
Square.
950
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,680
But by alluding to NHS workers being
hung,
951
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:47,000
she had taken British conspiracy
down a dark, terrifying path.
952
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,000
At that rally in July, in Trafalgar
Square, you seemed to make a link
953
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,240
that the NHS workers of today should
be hung for their participation.
954
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,760
It's not for me to decide the law,
it's the Rome Statute, I believe.
955
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,440
I... But you can... Hang on. You can
have an opinion on it...
956
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,720
No, you're not going to make me...
It really got a lot of media
coverage. Excellent.
957
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,400
It was pretty scary, you know?
Even standing there... Excellent.
958
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,800
It seemed to be...
You said at the Nuremberg trials
959
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,080
those doctors and nurses hung.
You don't like me mentioning
Nuremberg.
960
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,920
Why don't you want me to
mention Nuremberg?
961
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,440
Does it make you uncomfortable?
Because it's unbelievably
incendiary. Yes, it does.
962
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,760
Does it make you uncomfortable? It's
extremely incendiary
963
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,320
to say that publicly in
front of tens of thousands of
people... It's incendiary? That's...
964
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,680
It's incendiary? That the workers in
the NHS could potentially meet that
fate.
965
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:32,400
It's incendiary? It's incendiary.
OK, well, let's talk about it.
966
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,680
It's incendiary.
This was in the last hundred years,
967
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:40,640
they facilitated the death
of disabled children and adults.
968
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,640
And you're saying that that's
happening today with Covid? And they
believed...
969
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,600
They believe at that time that they
were doing the right thing.
970
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,440
Over the last 18 months,
Kate's been speaking
971
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,040
up and down the country in front
of crowds of thousands of people,
972
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,120
and it appears to be working.
973
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,600
From our research with YouGov, 65%
of Brits believe the people who have
974
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,560
the most influence and power in the
UK are not our elected politicians.
975
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,280
But has this support and
encouragement
976
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,120
led her to
consider a move into politics?
977
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Could you see yourself
running for a political party?
978
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,640
I have considered
and now opened that door.
979
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,280
It's not something that I've thought
about and dismissed.
980
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,600
This is my camerawoman, as well.
981
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,600
She does all my filming
when we're out.
982
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,520
You've encouraged me to
go into politics, haven't you? Yeah.
983
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,720
We were chatting with Kate about
whether she might
984
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,360
run for Prime Minister one day.
Fantastic idea.
985
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,240
Would you vote for her?
I would.
986
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,760
SHE CHUCKLES
987
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,000
It's hard, because everything they
say has, like, a pearl of something
988
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,480
that could be reality, and they
hook you on that point and say,
989
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,360
"See? See?" You know?
"Do you get what I'm saying?"
990
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,520
Because of that tiny bits in this
wider argument I'm making.
991
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,240
It's like, "No, no."
Just because that tiny bit is true,
992
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,360
they just extrapolate everything
and then they manipulate people
993
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,480
and they ask for money
and they make them go out
994
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,960
and vote on the back of these
things that are lies.
995
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,760
The dark forces of conspiracy
have deeply embedded
996
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,760
themselves in our political systems,
and after going behind the veil,
997
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,320
it's clear that none of us are safe
from their lies and misinformation.
998
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,040
Conspiracies like Q give people hope
and purpose,
999
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,080
but the road from obscure conspiracy
to undermining democracy is
1000
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,120
one paved with good intentions.
1001
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,480
Conspiracy led to the biggest
assault ever on US democracy.
1002
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,720
If left unchecked,
where will it lead the rest of us?
1003
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,760
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