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And you?
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You can get to know the characters
in the film in two ways.
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And one I think is the wrong way.
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When I read the script,
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I make up, you know,
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obviously I read the writer's words
and the character does come across, but
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I'm actually
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I am suddenly becoming the actor.
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I'm suddenly becoming the character.
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And so
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usually my interpretation is wrong.
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you know, having Sherlock
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Holmes or Jack Sparrow or
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any of us, The Lion King, any,
any of the characters
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I have worked with constantly
have a German accent.
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Might be inappropriate to begin with.
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So the way the, the way
I get to sneak up on it is partly talking
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to the director, who sometimes has a has
a better sense of who the character is
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even than the actor himself.
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I mean,
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because
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by the time the character of the actor
inhabits the character,
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if you talk with great actors,
they are so inside
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that character
that they can't, that they can't describe,
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describe it in an objective way anymore.
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so again, I mean,
I usually come back to this
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very clumsy method,
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which is asking the director,
you know, tell me the story.
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Does this character have a past,
you know, did some tragedy
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befall him in his youth
or something like this?
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I mean, the what drives the character,
you know,
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what is what is hidden.
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You know what's hidden from us
that we don't know about the character
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that makes him behave in a certain way,
that sets that whole thing into motion.
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an interesting
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characters do have a backstory,
and sometimes you have to go
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and make one up, you know, for yourself,
you know?
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I remember sitting with
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Ron Howard and Peter Morgan on,
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when we were doing rush,
you know, and the James Hunt character.
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I mean, James Hunt, obviously,
he existed in real life.
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and this is shot.
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The camera travels past a cage with two
in England.
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They're called batteries.
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You know, these little canaries,
and James Hunt, actually,
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after he quit racing, he started a.
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Battery farm.
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You know,
he was breeding these these birds.
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And there's a
there's a weird thing about these birds
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that you always have to have two
in a cage, one is by themselves.
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They die from loneliness.
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You always have to have a pair.
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And I just thought that was that.
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James Hunt, who
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was so
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gregarious and so social,
but in a, in a in a weird way,
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he was so isolated from the world,
you know, that, that
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the thing that he was drawn to
and the thing that he truly loved
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were these, these birds
that couldn't be in isolation.
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That was such a symbol of, companionship,
you know?
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So I kept writing about, you know,
what else can I get out of?
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we're going to hear another tune
about the budgies.
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You know, but that's what I was.
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That's why I kept writing about
that was stuff my way
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into it.
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All that happens in the movie,
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usually you're just in a snapshot,
you know?
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You know,
it's usually a fully formed human being
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unless it's some original
story or it's, you know, like
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a biographical story.
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It starts off with a baby
and all that stuff up.
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You're in this in this moment in time
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where something happens
that sets all sorts of things into motion,
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you know,
and you have conflict and you have,
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so why is the character
dealing with the conflict or whatever
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obstacles are being put into his way
in that way?
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And the other part of it is,
why is the character going on this journey
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in the first place, you know, is it
because he needs to rob the bank
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because you know that
that you know he needs and you know
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he needs to get an operation
for his puppy dog at home?
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this is because he needs to
get the girl or what is it?
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You know, what is the thing?
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So that the the make their
the mechanics of why
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the, you know, why this character goes on,
whatever the journey is.
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And I'm not talking about a road movie
necessarily,
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but then what is it
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that's inherent in that specific character
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that makes him react in the way
he's react?
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And so that must be something in the past.
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What brought him to this point?
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What's the part we don't see and we don't
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we aren't given the information
clearly either.
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You know, very often you don't you don't.
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The you don't get the Indianapolis scene
and jaws and every movie
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where the guy's talking about the,
you know,
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the the experience from his past
that made him into this weird,
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quirky character.
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You don't necessarily get that one, but
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it'd be nice
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if the music was informed
by something like that
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so that there was some,
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that it felt purposeful, that it felt
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you knew what you were talking about.
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Lion King is like a tricky subject,
because you know that
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it's,
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Didn't want to do the movie.
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Didn't, you know, I didn't want,
you know, I didn't want to do an animated
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movie.
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didn't know how to write for fussy
animals.
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didn't want to do Broadway, you know?
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So I was just fabricating.
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No, no, no, I don't want to do this.
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And then out of one reason or the other,
I did get into it.
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And it became
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incredibly personal because,
my father died
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when I was six years old, and suddenly
I'm presented with the story of
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a child losing his father.
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you know, it's I.
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I never had to deal with it.
I never had to talk about it.
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Never had to deal with it. Just.
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I mean, especially in the self-driving
culture where we have a, you know,
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we don't have a motion for the.
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But, so,
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so I poured a lot of stuff into that movie
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that that was actually really about me.
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And at the end of the day,
I suppose everything
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I write is a version of me.
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I have no idea.
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I, you know, really honestly,
I have no idea how
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the character feels, truly feels.
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You know, I can guess
that I can put myself into a situation
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and I can imagine it.
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And I suppose that's where
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this thing comes in.
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You know,
you're supposed to write from imagination.
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You know, I,
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you you try to figure out some sort
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of an emotional truth
which is not based on fact.
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And I can figure out something.
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I can figure out something in the
that might not be,
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but the but the writer was figuring out.
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But I can figure out my corner
of the experience that I can
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that resonates within me
and that I can make something out of.
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