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This is my prison.
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It's the room I spend 98% of my life and,
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Because that's all I really do.
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I go home.
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I come here, I love writing music,
so what have I got in front of me?
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It's my computer,
and it makes all sorts of.
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I think, you know, the novelty
that people don't realize that.
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That, you know, a computer can play
any type of instrument.
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I think that's sort of gone by now,
you know? So.
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So in front of me, it's
my virtual orchestra, basically,
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because that's how I work.
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So the way I work is after
a lot of procrastination,
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I have to sit down
and eventually I have to start somewhere.
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And this usually means
I have to put the glasses on
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because I can't see the screen anymore.
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And after having a conversation
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with the director and sort of knowing
where this film is going, I just work.
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I just start writing my ideas down
and that's a diary type fashion
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where every day
I just move forward in this piece
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and it's just
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it starts somewhere
and it's trying to find a theme
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or trying to find a vibe or trying
to find a mood or something like this.
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But every day I just add to it.
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I don't go back and revise things.
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So because sometimes things
that you discarded
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eight weeks earlier, you suddenly remember
and go, hang on a second.
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It's it was a terrible idea at the time,
but actually, it turns out
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that's quite cool.
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So the way that I work is I sort of know
the movie pretty well.
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I know it as well as you can at this point
where a movie doesn't really exist
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other than the head of the director,
scenes of being shot, etc. but
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I do need to go
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and start fishing around
for some material.
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It comes from the conversation
with the director
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and you're all enthusiastic
because it's all new
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possibilities, opportunities,
great ideas, etc.
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and then you go into this room
and you sit in front of this
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and it's all gone, and you just go,
oh my God,
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I have no idea what to do,
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but you need to, you know,
the courage of starting somewhere.
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So the first marker says intro
because it needs to start somewhere,
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you know, and I'm
pretty sure I sort of remember what I did.
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I think the first thing
I literally did was,
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just put, put this line in
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because I thought.
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I just, I just knew that.
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I sort of had it in my head and
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the thing about this piece is,
you know, it's not a piece.
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It's it literally is a diary.
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You can see how my ideas slowly sort of
come up, you know, and asking, oh, okay.
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Hang on a second. This would be cool
if I did it on a clarinet.
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So next, Marcus called clarinet.
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Since this is literally my process here.
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So, I mean, you know, a Sherlock,
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it starts.
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Fairly hesitantly,
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as I'm trying to figure this all out.
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So I knew I had to go and find something
dark.
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And I knew I had to go and find something
remarkable.
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Or something good enough for,
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you know, our villain.
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And really, this this
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this whole whole thing is just sort of it
literally.
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It's my thought process, you know, where,
you know, up here,
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you see little Marcus floating around,
you know,
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just which is on my memory. Help us.
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That no poetic Marcus.
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I mean, you get to things like loud part,
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you know, just eventually
you need to get to a loud point.
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It's very pragmatic, all this, you know,
so he has allowed that.
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And all you're trying to do
is you're playing with things
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and you're trying to see how far
you can take them, or if they go anywhere,
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or if you should just chuck
the whole thing and phone the director,
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give them a phone number
of a decent composer and say, I quit.
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So I start somewhere.
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You know, I had this phrase
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which is,
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you know, in this case
it was very much related to,
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Schubert's The Trout because I thought
it'd be fun to play with that
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and make that into Moriarty's theme,
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that this piece is literally about.
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One character,
you know, this is the antagonist.
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This is, you know.
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Sherlock's nemesis
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and and really how since he sort of drives
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the story in one way or the other,
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the, you know,
the bad guy makes things happen.
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And that's why, you know,
our hero needs to do whatever he does.
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So this is, you know,
this thing really in its entirety
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is everything that the,
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you know,
that the bad guy sets into motion,
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and, God, down to this one.
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Let me just have a look.
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Yeah.
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so some of it is mysterious.
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Some of it is just crazy stuff.
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It's like these chords became
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important.
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It's just these.
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Occasionally you have to go and
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have, like, a stupid brass band moment.
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I don't make it into the movie.
I have no idea.
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Not everything
that's that made into the movie.
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And remember, this is not.
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None of this is supposed to be
a coherent piece of music.
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This is just
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fragments.
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But I do try to link the fragments up
because
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the transitions are important,
you know, and
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and as you're writing the main material,
you're actually forever thinking of
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how can it transition
from one thing to another,
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you know, and it's it's actually okay.
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We can we can just do lucky dip here.
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Hang on.
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So if there's a spar to to fall and
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we want to go to somewhere
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completely different,
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let's say we go to let's three, six, five.
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So we'll just just for trial and error,
I can sort of edit
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this by hand and just see what happens
when you jump from one to the other.
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And I picked two completely
random places. So.
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so will it transition?
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Okay.
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Yeah. In this case,
it transitions pretty easily.
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then I mean,
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here I'm noticing
that one of the things I realized
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at about bar 400, I realized
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if I give my antagonist
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so much weight and so much power,
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I better find out how to turn the,
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my tiny, you know, my.
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There's a piano.
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there we go.
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I better give Mr.
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Holmes some balls as well.
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So this is.
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So it's.
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I mean, it's absolutely
maintaining his theme, but it's just a
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it's just a much more aggressive version.
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You know, back to the symbol.
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so, so, so partly as I developed this,
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I'm developing
sort of both sides of the coin as well.
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I mean, I have to I have to figure out
how big I want this movie to get.
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how funny I want this movie to get,
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how agile I want it to be.
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Plus, the other thing is by writing
in this diary form
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and I'm really sticking it to one tempo,
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I can figure out
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if there's a, you know,
if within the music there's a, there's
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enough forward momentum
and enough drive to sort of
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get me through this movie,
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and enough storytelling in it, you know?
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So each phrase isn't about,
oh, is it a pretty phrase, or did
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I like the phrase at each phrase,
God knows what this is.
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Oh, it says mystery,
but let's go and find out what mystery is.
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Inevitably,
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there are going to be
some mysterious moments.
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And I thought
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basically
a heavy metal riff on a clarinet.
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But the sort of creepy
stuff becomes really useful.
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I mean,
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trying to work
with the least amount of forces as well.
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I know so.
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Know.
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but slowly, you know,
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it's.
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If you don't give up idea, start coming.
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Oh. There are no nice transitions here.
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It was literally like,
okay, bored with that idea?
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I know how to make something work
out of this.
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Next thing is called clock.
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And then there's a marker called tune. So.
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Thinking back all these years,
I thought the idea of these clock
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ticks was interest and time,
which could become that chess thing.
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And I knew so that little clarinet thing.
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But I actually had a lot of notes
at the beginning.
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Did it work? Well, because,
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you know, and I'm just stripping it away
now because it's just takes
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confidence and say, to know the material,
to start stripping away
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all the all the stuff you don't need,
the whole thing is something much simpler.
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And it's
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actually has got much more vibe,
and it's got a
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which then goes into some.
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And I'm starting to develop
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this whole clock idea.
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and I'm sneaking up on the tune.
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That's all I'm doing.
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You know, I, you know, this might be like,
day five or day ten or something.
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I have no idea.
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But you just have to
doggedly move forward.
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I think that's the secret to getting it.
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Getting it? Grip.
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Oh, look, this, nearly a big part.
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And then you can tell pretty quickly
when I'm going.
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Okay, I know what what this could become.
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Now, I remember this.
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This was like. Oh, hang on a second.
This could be cool.
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This could become a riff.
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This could become an ax me thing.
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So now from those shabby little,
from those shabby
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little notes at the beginning,
suddenly it's going to take off.
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And a bit of inspiration
is actually hitting.
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And then inspiration obviously stopped.
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oh. Then there's a big if.
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It's a red marker.
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It means for the moment,
I felt secure enough to go.
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This bit might become something.
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And it says to so.
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Oh, right.
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Okay. So this is just the same.
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It's just developed on from the beginning.
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So I want just to recapitulate,
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as they say, and classical music.
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So we went from.
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So if that's the seed of the idea,
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just this one phrase.
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I think comes again,
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So over a few days
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it's now become this.
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This is like Guy and James Herbert.
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on the cutting room, cutting away
while I'm,
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you know,
sort of rushing parallel to them,
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you know, and and all I'm hoping is, well,
all I'm hoping is that
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that somehow we're not in perfect
thing, but at least we're
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metaphorically in sync.
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So partly what I'm doing is
I'm not just writing the notes
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into this diary,
but I'm trying to figure out the style.
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I try to figure out stylistically
where this is going to go.
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harmonically, sonically,
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as a, as a straight orchestra,
as this is synth guys,
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there's some amalgamation
of different things.
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I and,
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you know,
whatever the cutting room sense of,
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fragments of a movie, a bit of picks,
you know,
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just just just shove it
up against the scene and see what happens.
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I mean,
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if you have a really good music editor,
like I do,
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all sorts of discoveries
are going to be made.
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pieces of music.
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You thought you were writing for something
completely different suddenly
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illuminate a certain scene
in a way that you never expected.
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And so slowly as I start developing
through these pieces, I hand them
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so. And, you know,
I'm, you know, it's going to get too loud.
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But right there,
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I was I just start handing them over
to the cutting room
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and I start handing them over
to my trusted music editor
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pop out of me,
and we just try them up against picture.
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I mean, we just lay them up, see what
works, see how to adjust the tone.
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I mean, the great thing
about working this virtual world is
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I don't have to get an orchestra
and just try things
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sometimes to get me sessions. And,
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and I mean
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computers to make it so, so incredibly
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flexible these days that, you know,
if the scene,
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let's just try this,
I mean, if the scene plays slower,
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you know, then 140 2 p.m., I mean,
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if this all looks a bit wrong, you know,
there's no reason I can't just go.
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Change tempo or whatever.
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So after a while, I have all these
flexible bits, all these different ideas.
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You know, weirdly,
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this piece is about 23 minutes
written like a diary.
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Every day I write a few more things
and I think very little in here
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didn't end up becoming part of the score.
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you know,
I mean, so, you know, it's stuff goes on
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and it's, you know, like there's
a lot of the sort of the weird,
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you know, it's the little weird
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sounding stuff.
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You know, because this is all just
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virtually hanging around this.
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So, I mean, that's that's,
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you know,
just sort of taking it apart into
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a lot of the sort of.
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Crazy things about the way I broadcast
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because I work in the computer,
which means I can make all these noises.
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you know.
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It means
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at one point or the other,
I played every note in the school.
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that's a lot slower than writing on paper.
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You know, it's it's in a funny way.
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I performed my whole script at one point
or the other.
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before I sort of unleashed it
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onto other musicians who can contribute.
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But weirdly,
I have to go through this sort of.
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It's just it's my process.
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I have to go through this diary process
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so that I answered all the questions
that I've had for myself.
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There's certain things I had to fulfill.
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I had to go for, you know,
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do things
which were because Moriarty, to me
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felt much more of a classicist,
you know, then than shut up.
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So, you know, you know,
part of it was just, oh, how can I write
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a tasty bit? And,
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more classical way without, you know,
like,
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still. And.
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I, you know, it's
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just for my own sake and and the
the question that's going to be asked,
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which is,
are you getting to dark all your fun
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enough,
or is a dark enough of all those things?
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Yeah.
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I'm just trying to hone in on the tone
of the whole thing, and I'm just trying
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to see whether that one little phrase
at the beginning will take me.
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That was, you know, the,
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you know, if at the top of this is,
you know, bog standard,
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we're going to have a string section
type of,
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you know, it's, it's.
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I mean,
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there's certain givens,
you know, with the horns and
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so that's there.
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And then below that, it
suddenly starts getting a little bit more.
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Eclectic.
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You know, that's.
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So while this process was going
on, I was torturing
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violinists, bass
players, timber long players, you know.
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No, no, no.
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Can we go and sample your instrument?
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And I want you to do this.
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And I think it'll become something cool,
I don't know.
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Let's
see if I can even find any of that stuff.
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so below this as it starts
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just becoming a collection of,
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we had
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it just it just becomes the collection of,
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you know, the, the weird sort of colors
I hear.
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I mean, part of it is you write the notes
and part of it as what color he going?
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A half.
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And what's the unusual stuff?
So once, once
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the once you leave the orchestra,
which is at the top, is a given.
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You know
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what interesting spices
can we solve into this thing?
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so, it's, it's, fairly
a ridiculous amount of music. Yes.
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I, I don't know,
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it's hard to even see the end.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's 801 bar.
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Of, Well,
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obviously I was I was
I didn't have to develop the Sherlock
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material anymore because I knew what
that was from the first movie be.
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This was literally trying to develop
this idea of the adversary,
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you know, and,
and where this was taking us and the I,
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you know, I mean, that's why it becomes
very Germanic and, and faces and they
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and I, I allowed myself to be,
on the one hand, far more symphonic
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and on the other hand far more quirky,
because we got away with quirky
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the first time around. So
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it seemed like a,
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you know, a sequel should be all about
pushing the boundaries as opposed to,
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you know, narrowing it.
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