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- Crouch could very easily
be suspect in other cases.
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This looks like he slipped
through the cracks.
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- And on a side note, I got
a phone call yesterday that
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Travis Crouch
is getting paroled.
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- His hearing is today.
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- We had our next cold case
meeting scheduled already.
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We find out,
going into that meeting,
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that Travis is actually set
for his parole hearing
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the Thursday of that week, his
first time eligible for parole.
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So, of course,
we're following that closely
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because he's a strong
person of interest
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at minimum at this point.
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Ideally, we'd like to
interview him in custody
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where he's not a risk
to the public.
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And if he's getting out
in October,
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then that really puts us at
a pace we don't want to be at.
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We'd like to slow roll and have
all the resources in place.
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And if I read his
documents right,
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his parole release date
would be in October.
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So if he did get granted,
we're on a two-month clock.
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If he didn't, he did tell me
he could reapply in a year.
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So we're on a one-year clock
if he got denied.
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Detective Marion
comes in and says
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he knows that I've been
tasked with
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the Travis Crouch side
of things.
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And he says, received a phone
call that Travis's victim
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would like to talk to us.
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- I didn't know--
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I mean, I saw Marion
tell you about that call.
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And so...
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I did--I mean,
when did she call him?
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- Yesterday.
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ALLEN: And do we know
what prompted that?
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- My assumption would
be the parole hearing.
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But no, I don't know.
ALLEN: OK.
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- He hadn't spoken to her.
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ALLEN: And so, for sure, it's
the victim of Travis Crouch,
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who he's convicted on
in Colorado.
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- That's what I've
been led to believe.
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Special Agent Allen and I
did make a phone call to her.
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It's been 26 years.
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And she is--she's
struggled to talk about it,
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and we didn't force it.
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We're not going to--we have
records we can go back to.
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So we don't need to make
her relive all that.
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She had testified in the parole
hearing one way or another,
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but that wound had been opened
for the first time in--
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since that trial was over.
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So she had been through
a rough couple of days,
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to say the least.
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But we did speak to her.
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Fortunately, she was strong.
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His victim fought this parole,
and it was denied.
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He'll be in Colorado prison
for at least another year.
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He'll be eligible for another
parole hearing in a year,
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and we'll see what happens.
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But the timing was wild that
the day of that meeting,
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we found out, he's going
to have a parole hearing
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two days later.
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But we were on a
pretty tight clock
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if his parole had been
released, and worse than that,
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he would be back
on the streets.
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You know, maybe he was
reformed in prison,
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but we don't know that.
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And the data that
we do have on him
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+is that he was very violent.
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And I'm not sitting
here saying,
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for sure, that he did it.
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He's a really good
suspect, though.
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And our job is to
either rule him out
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or prove that it was him.
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BRAD: So we know Melissa
was hit in the head.
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The medical examiner said
it was something that was--
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could render her
unconscious,
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but it was not enough of a blow
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that could be
the cause of death.
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So that tells me,
about the crime scene,
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that she was struck
and then, I believe,
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carried through
the parking lot.
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And that's why the blood spots
are so spread out.
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But the longer she was
carried to the parking lot,
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you get the larger blood spots
towards the, uh--
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towards the back
of the parking lot.
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The way the attack happened--
this could have been
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a random person
sitting in the parking lot
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that saw her and,
you know, acted immediately.
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This could have been
someone that she knew
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and had an argument with.
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We know that there was a man
and a woman in the parking lot
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and a verbal disagreement
that caused alarm
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to the 11-year-old
that went outside.
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So if I was to speculate,
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I would say that Melissa got
into an argument with someone
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that she knew.
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And she turned to go
towards the bowling alley,
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and she was hit in the head.
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PARKINSON:
So during the investigation,
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detectives go to Missy's home.
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And when they're at
their home,
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they're going to collect items
that may help with the case.
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One item that detectives
did take was a diary.
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BRAD: The last entry was
a week or two before
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she had actually went missing.
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Inside the diary, you know, she
laid out just about everything
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she--her friends,
every activity she had done.
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And Melissa seemed like she
was a very outgoing person.
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There was nothing
to indicate any kind of
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drug activity or alcohol
activity, anything like that.
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She just seemed
like she was a--
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just a very young--
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I'd say love-stricken teenager.
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- Looking at some of the
people in the investigation,
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such as Charles Ray Vines,
Travis Crouch,
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their MOs were outliers.
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They were different.
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You start looking at,
who knew Missy?
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Statistics show that
something like this
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is going to be
most likely someone
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that she was associated with.
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- Any type of case you work,
the victim's statement is
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the best thing that you have.
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I mean, what they experienced,
how they experienced it.
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And that was exactly what
finding the diary was like.
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You have her day-to-day
life in her own words.
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She references boyfriends,
friends, going to parties,
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people that have said
ill things about her,
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people she doesn't like.
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Melissa was very
meticulous in the way
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that she wrote things
and described things.
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I mean, you could almost feel
her excitement in her words.
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- As we're searching all the
documents, what was done,
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what do we want to do,
what do we still need to do.
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We know Missy
was bleeding
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in the parking lot
of Bowling World.
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We found blood.
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So we assume that
the bleeding will
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continue on into the
vehicle she was placed in.
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As the investigation
is ongoing,
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you know, multiple vehicles
are being searched.
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Trying to rule people out.
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If you do find blood,
then we're going
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to want to have it analyzed.
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So that's something that we
are, you know, hoping to find,
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rule out, look at.
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As part of the investigation,
we look at phone records.
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So we pull up the phone
records for her house.
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We look at the phone number
and the date and time,
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and then we go and
look at the diary.
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And surely, you know,
right there is a document
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in Missy's own words
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about what was discussed
on the phone call,
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how she felt about the phone
call, who she spoke with.
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So it's basically
Missy talking to us.
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And, you know, we got the date
and time of the phone call,
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and then we have how Missy
felt about that phone call
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and what she wanted to tell us.
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So it's real nice
to have that,
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where we can make
that connection.
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This is who she spoke to,
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and this is how the
conversation went.
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BRAD: My goal at that point is
to find out as much as I can,
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try to interview friends,
family, just to build a profile
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and see what other
people's interactions,
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other relationships,
what those were like.
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DETECTIVE: Baker, you got some
updates on Crouch on CODIS?
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JAY:
Yeah. Yeah.
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We'd noticed in his IIIs that
there was an entry that said,
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no CODIS entry made.
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Collect DNA.
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So that was a little alarming.
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Contacted the Colorado
Bureau of Investigation,
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and they said, on their
end, yes, there is one,
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and it's constantly
being searched.
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I still wasn't real comfortable
with that, given the IIIs.
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So Arkansas State crime lab--
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Miranda Crawford's
also checking that.
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She said in her findings,
the same thing.
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She's going to go a
little more in depth
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into the cigarette butt and the
evidence that they're aware of
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and the partial off the
cigarette butt up there,
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and see if--she said
there's been no hit on it.
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But she's going
to make sure it's
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being processed in such
a way that if it's there,
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they'll find it, so--
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The family--his family said
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he--he was not in the
area in this time.
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There's a lady named Glenda
who lives in that area.
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And she came forward
and said he absolutely
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was in this area at that time.
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She remembered, for sure,
that it was Travis.
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She remembered for sure that
Travis was in his mama's car.
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And it would have been six to
eight weeks after Labor Day,
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putting us somewhere
in November that Travis
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was absolutely in this area.
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Miss Glenda is still
locked in on that.
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She is in a difficult position
because she is still very good
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friends with Travis's parents.
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She said maybe they just
misremember the dates.
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She doesn't think they're
doing it intentionally.
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She made an interesting
comment to us.
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Because as soon as we
walked in, she said,
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you're here about Melissa
and Travis, aren't you?
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And we said, yeah.
We want to visit with you.
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She said, well,
I can tell you this.
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Travis didn't kill her.
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Travis wasn't a killer.
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He was only a rapist.
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So we just kind of
filed that back,
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knowing the behavioral
patterns of serial rapist
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and the affinity for violence.
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So we didn't dig into
that with Ms. Glenda.
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I wasn't trying to run his
name into the dirt with her.
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I just wanted to
corroborate with her
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that he was in this area
in that general timeframe.
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And we were able to.
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His ex-wife stated that
every time he got out of jail,
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he always went back
to his dad's.
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We know, for sure, New Orleans
PD ran him in NCIC
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on January 3 of '95.
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So we've got a firmly
established line.
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We've got a
north-to-south travel line
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from Minneapolis to
New Orleans that logically
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would include our area.
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If Travis Crouch
is the suspect,
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whatever vehicle
he used to transport
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Melissa will have
blood in it because
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we know it was a bloody scene.
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We know that when
she got in that car,
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she didn't suddenly
stop bleeding.
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So if we can ever
find a vehicle
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that has her blood, especially
if it's connected to him--
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but even if it's one of these
other gentlemen--
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these other men
that we're looking at--
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then that's rock-solid
evidence
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that she was in that car.
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But I think it's
worth our while
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to look into the other cars,
see if we can find
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some other vehicles,
belong to the family,
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see if we can track them down
and perhaps run those as well.
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And maybe he was driving
something different that day.
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PARKINSON:
You know, you have this
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beautiful young woman that
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was abducted and murdered,
and then her body dumped
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out here in
the National Forest,
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and, you know, stripped nude.
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I mean, just--
it's not right
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not to be able to figure out
who did this to her
264
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and bring them to justice.
265
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Even though, like you said,
her parents are gone,
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I think the community
demands that,
267
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and that's what they
expect from, you know,
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the police department.
269
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It's not about pointing
fingers or, you know,
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did you do a good job,
did you not do a good job.
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Trying to find something--
something to grasp
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and identify who did this.
273
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And even if that person
is no longer here,
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at least we could
wrap it up and, you know,
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say, without a doubt,
this is the person that did it.
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I mean, just--to me,
you abduct her,
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knock her over the head,
fight with her, whatever,
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in the parking lot,
and then drive all the way up--
279
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I mean, we're not even
on the logging road yet.
280
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- We're not even there.
Yeah.
281
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- And it happens at night.
282
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It's pitch black out here.
283
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- Yeah.
284
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I mean, there's 1,000 places
he could have dumped her.
285
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It's just hard to
fathom he randomly
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ended up on a logging road.
287
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- Yeah, because the store
and the campground
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was on the aerial maps.
289
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We're still here, so...
290
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- But then you got
the campground,
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which puts Travis Crouch
in the area,
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and then you got the cemetery.
293
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- And the lady that puts him in
the area worked at that store
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right there.
295
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That's where she
said she saw him.
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And she still holds
that to this day,
297
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even though she doesn't
think he did it.
298
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She's friends with his parents.
299
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She absolutely holds
that he was right there,
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picking up those puppies--
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picking up a puppy in his
mama's car
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in the time he says
he wasn't here.
303
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- And then you got
Charles Ray Vines
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that had a work order for
digging the cemetery
305
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even closer to
the logging road.
306
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So--
307
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- Well, we'll get on up there.
308
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We got a lot to do.
309
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When I think about it,
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I mean, we are already
quite a distance away from 40.
311
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And the windy roads,
coming up here
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in the middle of the night,
how dark it would be--
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like you said, he definitely
have to be familiar.
314
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And this is just
on the highway.
315
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You know, we're not even
on the logging road yet.
316
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So that adds another
whole layer of someone
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has to be familiar
with the area
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to get all the way up there.
319
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I don't know.
320
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I keep going back
to Crouch or--
321
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I don't know.
322
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I just--it's so fucking far
out here.
323
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I mean, look at this, going...
324
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♪ ♪
325
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- Kind of spooky
how that big rock
326
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almost looks like a headstone.
327
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♪ ♪
328
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- So when you're
examining a cold case,
329
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and you want to look
at the evidence,
330
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you're going to pull
all this evidence out
331
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so you can determine
what evidence
332
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is best and will give you
the best luck of getting
333
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a return on DNA, say.
334
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DNA has made leaps
and bounds, advances,
335
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and they can do a lot
more now than they could
336
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back in 1995, 2000.
337
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When we're looking at new
procedures and the advancement
338
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in technology, we really want
to look at possibly submitting
339
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almost everything again,
and private labs
340
00:17:57,743 --> 00:18:01,497
as well, who may have
a better technology
341
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than your state crime lab.
342
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[soft tense music]
343
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♪ ♪
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DANNY: One of the
first questions I had is,
345
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um, the nail clippings.
346
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I know the ME took those,
347
00:18:25,146 --> 00:18:27,982
like,
when you did the autopsy.
348
00:18:27,982 --> 00:18:29,608
But I haven't found--
349
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I know you sent me something
on the nail clippings,
350
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but it said it was,
like, being retained,
351
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that it hasn't been tested.
352
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BRAD:
I got you on speaker.
353
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But no, I was just
calling earlier.
354
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We were fixing to go into a
meeting with the crime lab.
355
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And we had a list of
questions and stuff,
356
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and we wanted to make sure
we didn't miss anything.
357
00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:04,935
It's pretty exciting.
So--
358
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JAY:
Yeah.
359
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- The--they said, from their
end, what they can tell--
360
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the fingernail clippings
have never been tested.
361
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JAY:
Ooh, that is exciting.
362
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- So that's pretty awesome.
363
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So--
364
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JAY:
Yeah.
365
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- They've got them there,
366
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so they're fixing to
start testing them.
367
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They said it could be anywhere
from three to six months,
368
00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:31,754
but just depending on
if they can get people
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moved to the cold case stuff.
370
00:19:34,048 --> 00:19:35,883
And then, like,
the blood droplets--
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you know, we talked about,
like, did they test each one,
372
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or did it--
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you know, they just
test one or two spots?
374
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And they said most likely
it was the one or two spots,
375
00:19:46,352 --> 00:19:48,312
but they were going
to go back,
376
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and they would retest
all of them.
377
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JAY:
OK.
378
00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:54,568
- Pretty exciting.
So--
379
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JAY: Dude, that fingernail
thing--that is exciting.
380
00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:58,489
Oh, my gosh.
381
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- Hopefully--
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JAY:
You know, that could be--
383
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I mean, that has the potential
to be a huge breakthrough.
384
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We'll see.
385
00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:09,125
It seems like that's our
best potential right now.
386
00:20:09,125 --> 00:20:11,961
- Right.
Yeah, I agree.
387
00:20:14,171 --> 00:20:15,881
The whole purpose of
the Cold Case group
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is to overlook and see
what could have been missed
389
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and what can be re-approached.
390
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And now we're doing that,
and we're actually
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getting solutions and finding
key pieces that could have
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slipped through the cracks.
393
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I want to push to get this
done because, I mean, this is,
394
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like I said,
it's one of those things
395
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that you never thought
you'd be part of,
396
00:20:35,734 --> 00:20:37,319
and you're doing it.
397
00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:39,822
And to feel like you're making
headway and getting close
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to something, it's pretty--
399
00:20:43,993 --> 00:20:46,328
I mean, I can't
even describe it.
400
00:20:46,328 --> 00:20:49,415
- You know, they see, OK,
we've got 10 blood spots.
401
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Let's test four of them.
402
00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:52,460
Four of them show
to be the victim.
403
00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:54,336
OK, we believe that
all to be the victim.
404
00:20:54,336 --> 00:20:56,589
I mean, that's a very
good educated guess.
405
00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:59,508
You know, and in that time,
in that moment,
406
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maybe that's sufficient
enough at the time.
407
00:21:01,844 --> 00:21:03,721
But when you get down
to a case such as this,
408
00:21:03,721 --> 00:21:08,517
where it's nitty gritty, like,
every blood spot matters.
409
00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:11,979
Every piece of DNA
matters because you're
410
00:21:11,979 --> 00:21:16,692
looking for that game-changing
piece that could put everything
411
00:21:16,692 --> 00:21:18,360
that we have together.
412
00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:20,362
You know, that's why you
have to have these follow up
413
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meetings and explain
to the crime lab, hey,
414
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we need to revisit this.
415
00:21:23,324 --> 00:21:24,617
We need to resubmit
everything.
416
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We need to figure out
what's been tested,
417
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what's not been tested so we
can make sure it's all tested.
418
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That way, nothing's missed.
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BRAD: Now, Melissa
was found in January.
420
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And five to six
months later,
421
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you had the Morgan Nick
case come up.
422
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So you've got the
insane amount of evidence
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being sent from our case.
424
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Then you turn around,
and you know,
425
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they're still sending stuff,
I'm sure,
426
00:21:52,895 --> 00:21:54,855
on that case and constantly
following up with me and check.
427
00:21:54,855 --> 00:21:57,441
There's no telling how
many pieces of evidence
428
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they had sent in that case.
429
00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:00,820
- I think that's
what makes this
430
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a crucial time now is
that we are finding out
431
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that some didn't get tested.
432
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Let's test it now and see
what it does to open--
433
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open up this case.
434
00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:13,040
- Have I told you the story,
when Morgan was actually taken,
435
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that I was playing the
Little League game the night
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that she had gotten taken?
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♪ ♪
438
00:22:25,719 --> 00:22:27,054
I'll never forget.
439
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My mom just like,
stand right here.
440
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Do not move.
441
00:22:29,932 --> 00:22:32,810
And I was not to
leave her side.
442
00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:35,229
And I remember
everybody kind of--
443
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it's hazy.
444
00:22:36,647 --> 00:22:38,524
But I remember, like,
people in a panic.
445
00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:40,276
You could just tell that
something was wrong.
446
00:22:40,276 --> 00:22:42,570
There wasn't any
celebrating after the game.
447
00:22:42,570 --> 00:22:44,655
There was--everybody
was getting in their cars
448
00:22:44,655 --> 00:22:46,156
and leaving.
449
00:22:46,156 --> 00:22:47,908
And I remember a lot of
police officers being there,
450
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but you didn't really--
451
00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:51,203
it wasn't until
probably the next day
452
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that it started
hitting home and you
453
00:22:52,788 --> 00:22:55,457
started hearing everything
that actually had taken place.
454
00:22:55,457 --> 00:22:57,251
Back then,
nobody really had cameras,
455
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and it was just a rare thing.
456
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But my mom had gotten a video
camera and had taken it to film
457
00:23:02,464 --> 00:23:03,966
our last game.
458
00:23:03,966 --> 00:23:08,888
And so the tape was turned
over to the police and--
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♪ ♪
460
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That's the last time
that Morgan was seen,
461
00:23:22,151 --> 00:23:24,194
in the background
of that video.
462
00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:26,822
- I guess I didn't realize
that your mom's was--
463
00:23:26,822 --> 00:23:29,408
it actually had her
in the background.
464
00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:31,327
- But it also makes you think--
465
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look at the Witt case--
466
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:36,498
you know, I said earlier,
that can't happen to me.
467
00:23:36,498 --> 00:23:37,833
And that happened.
468
00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:39,376
And now here we are working it.
469
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And I mean, you just got to--
470
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it's wild how everything
falls in line.
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♪ ♪
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[soft tense music]
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♪ ♪
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ALLEN: So Fort Smith PD
has worked with--
475
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is working with
the state crime lab
476
00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:06,487
to get the fingernail clippings
sent to a private lab.
477
00:24:06,487 --> 00:24:08,530
And that's that lab in Florida.
478
00:24:08,530 --> 00:24:13,369
And so the goal is, uh,
479
00:24:13,369 --> 00:24:17,456
to fully test the fingernails
for the touch DNA.
480
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So they're going to
use that private lab.
481
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And that private lab's--
you know, it's got the--
482
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the reputation of handling
touch DNA as their forte.
483
00:24:27,549 --> 00:24:32,346
And then the other thing
was the culmination
484
00:24:32,346 --> 00:24:36,225
of everyone's work is that
three of the blood spots
485
00:24:36,225 --> 00:24:39,103
were confirmed tested,
but not all of them.
486
00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:40,521
- Gotcha.
487
00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:42,856
- And so the state crime
lab is going to--
488
00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,483
they have the blood samples.
489
00:24:44,483 --> 00:24:46,860
They're going to
retest all of them,
490
00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:49,279
the three that
have been tested
491
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,824
and the seven or eight
that have not been.
492
00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:54,159
Any one of those blood spots--
493
00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:58,539
if she had struggled enough
to cause him to bleed any--
494
00:24:58,539 --> 00:25:02,710
that if any of those spots
could be our suspect,
495
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:04,461
then we would--
496
00:25:04,461 --> 00:25:05,963
the only way to know is
to have them all tested.
497
00:25:05,963 --> 00:25:07,673
- Right.
- So that should be
498
00:25:07,673 --> 00:25:10,467
in the works now, to get
all the blood spots tested.
499
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:16,724
♪ ♪
500
00:25:16,724 --> 00:25:18,183
Admittedly, in the
back of our minds,
501
00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:19,768
we're going to be
waiting for that answer,
502
00:25:19,768 --> 00:25:23,605
waiting for that lab result,
and guardedly hopeful
503
00:25:23,605 --> 00:25:26,442
that it gives us something
that we can act on.
504
00:25:26,442 --> 00:25:30,154
- It's often not like what it
appears in TV shows and movies
505
00:25:30,154 --> 00:25:32,239
and things of that nature.
506
00:25:32,239 --> 00:25:33,615
A negative answer
is still an answer.
507
00:25:33,615 --> 00:25:36,618
So if, for some reason,
we get results back
508
00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:39,204
that say it's not this, well,
that just gives me motivation
509
00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:43,125
to keep pushing forward
to get some answers
510
00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:44,918
for something to get
a positive result.
511
00:25:44,918 --> 00:25:47,713
So I'm hopeful,
but at the same time,
512
00:25:47,713 --> 00:25:51,383
I'm realistic and understanding
that not every result
513
00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:53,093
is going to be positive.
514
00:25:53,093 --> 00:25:55,387
But that gives me the
motivation to keep trying
515
00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:57,389
to look for the right answer.
516
00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:59,600
ALLEN: The hope would be
that there's some form
517
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,187
of suspect DNA
that can be found
518
00:26:03,187 --> 00:26:05,814
with her fingernail clippings.
519
00:26:05,814 --> 00:26:10,402
♪ ♪
520
00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:15,574
[keyboard clacking]
521
00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:19,578
[line ringing]
522
00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:24,208
CHRISTINE:
DNA Labs International.
523
00:26:24,208 --> 00:26:25,584
This is Christine.
524
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:26,877
- This is Detective Marion
with the Fort Smith
525
00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:28,295
Police Department.
526
00:26:28,295 --> 00:26:29,588
CHRISTINE: OK. Let me see
if she's in her office.
527
00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:31,048
Hold on one second.
528
00:26:31,048 --> 00:26:34,384
BRAD:
Thank you.
529
00:26:34,384 --> 00:26:37,387
[classical music playing]
530
00:26:37,387 --> 00:26:40,432
♪ ♪
531
00:26:40,432 --> 00:26:43,143
It almost hurts to
have to sit and wait
532
00:26:43,143 --> 00:26:46,605
because it's something that,
you know, has never been done.
533
00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:49,775
And you just can't--
you want the results now.
534
00:26:49,775 --> 00:26:53,112
But once we get it all
sent off, 10 to 12 weeks,
535
00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:55,697
I mean, that kind of
crushes the excitement
536
00:26:55,697 --> 00:26:57,616
as far as the timeline.
537
00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:00,702
But it's still--
it's just because,
538
00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:05,207
you know, you want it now.
539
00:27:05,207 --> 00:27:07,084
In a case like this,
I would think
540
00:27:07,084 --> 00:27:10,963
that the fingernail clippings,
in a strangulation case,
541
00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:15,425
are going to be crucial
evidence because, you know,
542
00:27:15,425 --> 00:27:18,679
we know that Melissa fought
at the bowling alley,
543
00:27:18,679 --> 00:27:22,307
and most likely, she fought
when she was being strangled.
544
00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:26,770
And, you know, her fingernails
could hold potential evidence
545
00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:29,398
of the--of her killer.
546
00:27:29,398 --> 00:27:33,068
I mean, it's--to me,
I think that is a vital,
547
00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:36,405
vital piece of evidence
that has never been tested.
548
00:27:36,405 --> 00:27:38,615
And, you know, with all
the technology today,
549
00:27:38,615 --> 00:27:40,450
hopefully we can find--
550
00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:43,620
find some good answers with it.
551
00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:49,376
♪ ♪
552
00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:04,850
[indistinct chatter]
553
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:13,150
- Well, there's a
lot of weight that
554
00:28:13,150 --> 00:28:14,651
goes into a call like this.
555
00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:17,696
You know, there's hopes,
especially with
556
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:19,531
the community
and family members
557
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:22,284
and the department in general.
558
00:28:22,284 --> 00:28:24,745
We just don't know
whether that's
559
00:28:24,745 --> 00:28:27,623
going to be a good phone
call or a bad phone call
560
00:28:27,623 --> 00:28:29,124
or inconclusive.
561
00:28:29,124 --> 00:28:31,251
So either way, regardless
of the information,
562
00:28:31,251 --> 00:28:34,171
there's still going to
be a lot of work to do.
563
00:28:34,171 --> 00:28:37,215
So we're just hoping that
we get a good phone call.
564
00:28:37,215 --> 00:28:41,929
[phone ringing]
565
00:28:41,929 --> 00:28:44,348
- Hello.
This is Deputy Chief Thompson.
566
00:28:44,348 --> 00:28:45,807
RACHEL:
Hi, Deputy Chief Thompson.
567
00:28:45,807 --> 00:28:47,643
This is Rachel from
DNA Labs International.
568
00:28:47,643 --> 00:28:49,061
- How are you?
- I'm great.
569
00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:50,854
How are you doing this morning?
570
00:28:50,854 --> 00:28:52,272
RACHEL:
Good.
571
00:28:52,272 --> 00:28:53,982
I was just calling with
some preliminary results
572
00:28:53,982 --> 00:28:55,484
from your case.
573
00:28:55,484 --> 00:28:57,778
So as you know,
we had extracts
574
00:28:57,778 --> 00:28:59,237
from the nail clippings,
575
00:28:59,237 --> 00:29:01,156
and then we also tested
the nail clippings
576
00:29:01,156 --> 00:29:03,575
using our sponge shell method.
577
00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:07,579
So looking at the extracts,
we re-quantified them.
578
00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:09,456
And although there
is plenty of DNA
579
00:29:09,456 --> 00:29:12,084
present to move forward
with DNA profiling,
580
00:29:12,084 --> 00:29:14,836
there was
no male DNA detected.
581
00:29:14,836 --> 00:29:16,672
- OK.
582
00:29:16,672 --> 00:29:19,716
RACHEL: So we also
retest them, as I said,
583
00:29:19,716 --> 00:29:21,426
using our sponge shell method.
584
00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:23,178
And again,
although there's plenty
585
00:29:23,178 --> 00:29:25,889
of DNA to move forward
for DNA profiling,
586
00:29:25,889 --> 00:29:29,851
no male DNA was detected.
587
00:29:29,851 --> 00:29:31,395
I have a question
for you guys.
588
00:29:31,395 --> 00:29:33,105
So we do have two options.
589
00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:35,607
We could stop testing
at this point,
590
00:29:35,607 --> 00:29:38,944
or we could still move
forward with DNA profiling.
591
00:29:38,944 --> 00:29:41,571
We don't necessarily know
what happened to Melissa.
592
00:29:41,571 --> 00:29:45,117
So it is possible we could
still yield a DNA profile that
593
00:29:45,117 --> 00:29:47,619
could have information,
or we could also just
594
00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:49,621
pause at this point
and move forward
595
00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:52,207
with some of the other items
that we talked about.
596
00:29:52,207 --> 00:29:55,127
- Do we think that the
DNA profile could be hers,
597
00:29:55,127 --> 00:29:59,423
or do we think that it's--
is there a way to test that?
598
00:29:59,423 --> 00:30:01,133
RACHEL:
It could be just hers.
599
00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:03,844
It could also be her
and another female,
600
00:30:03,844 --> 00:30:06,513
or it's also possible that
there could be a really
601
00:30:06,513 --> 00:30:08,807
low-level male that's not
being picked up
602
00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:10,475
with quantification.
603
00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:12,519
But the only way to
be able to detect that
604
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:15,647
would probably be doing
next-generation sequencing,
605
00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:17,190
which is much more sensitive.
606
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:18,608
- OK.
607
00:30:18,608 --> 00:30:20,193
RACHEL: Do you want us
to issue a report
608
00:30:20,193 --> 00:30:22,237
at this time on what
we've done so far,
609
00:30:22,237 --> 00:30:23,572
or do you want us to hold off?
610
00:30:23,572 --> 00:30:25,115
- Yeah, if you
could issue a report
611
00:30:25,115 --> 00:30:27,034
and send it to us,
that way we can look at that.
612
00:30:27,034 --> 00:30:30,162
And then we can discuss it
and go from there.
613
00:30:30,162 --> 00:30:31,788
RACHEL: OK, sounds good.
Thank you, gentlemen.
614
00:30:31,788 --> 00:30:33,081
Have a good day.
615
00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:36,168
- All right. Thank you.
616
00:30:36,168 --> 00:30:39,004
PARKINSON: Yeah, that's
definitely disappointing.
617
00:30:39,004 --> 00:30:41,965
Disappointing news.
618
00:30:41,965 --> 00:30:46,261
But I think bring
that report and--
619
00:30:46,261 --> 00:30:48,472
you know,
to the team and discuss
620
00:30:48,472 --> 00:30:50,098
what we want to do from there.
621
00:30:50,098 --> 00:30:53,101
- But we'll just have to
look and see how much further
622
00:30:53,101 --> 00:30:54,853
we want to try to go with it.
623
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,354
- Yeah.
624
00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:03,153
I don't think he's
going to answer, so...
625
00:31:03,153 --> 00:31:05,822
VOICEMAIL: Your call has been
forwarded to voicemail.
626
00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:07,949
- Yeah, no luck.
627
00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:10,577
Brad's on vacation now.
628
00:31:10,577 --> 00:31:15,624
I have to get in touch with him
some other time, it looks like.
629
00:31:15,624 --> 00:31:18,585
[somber music]
630
00:31:18,585 --> 00:31:20,504
♪ ♪
631
00:31:20,504 --> 00:31:23,507
[indistinct chatter]
632
00:31:26,635 --> 00:31:29,679
REPORTER: I remember
interviewing people and people
633
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:33,308
saying this was such a safe and
quiet and friendly community.
634
00:31:33,308 --> 00:31:35,435
This is shocking that
something like this
635
00:31:35,435 --> 00:31:37,020
has happened in our town.
636
00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:41,024
And I think that's why the
town mobilized like it did.
637
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,822
But as far as violent crime
or abductions or anything
638
00:31:46,822 --> 00:31:49,074
like that, I mean,
that was not going on
639
00:31:49,074 --> 00:31:52,035
when I was there, you know,
in the mid '90s.
640
00:31:52,035 --> 00:31:56,331
It wasn't until this abduction
occurred with Melissa Witt
641
00:31:56,331 --> 00:31:59,709
that it just, it shook
that community to its core.
642
00:31:59,709 --> 00:32:01,253
INVESTIGATOR: Because when
we walked up here, I saw--
643
00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:02,754
REPORTER: I don't even think
there was a,
644
00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:04,798
we've got to find who
did this, in the beginning.
645
00:32:04,798 --> 00:32:06,341
It was more like, well,
she's got to be somewhere,
646
00:32:06,341 --> 00:32:09,928
and we've got to find her.
647
00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:13,598
♪ ♪
648
00:32:13,598 --> 00:32:15,517
PARKINSON:
I think Melissa's case
649
00:32:15,517 --> 00:32:17,018
is important to the community.
650
00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:21,523
Someone committed
this horrible crime.
651
00:32:21,523 --> 00:32:23,733
Someone needs to be
brought to justice.
652
00:32:23,733 --> 00:32:26,528
And even if this person
who did this to Missy--
653
00:32:26,528 --> 00:32:28,905
if they're deceased,
we still want
654
00:32:28,905 --> 00:32:31,783
to be able to identify and make
sure that nothing like this
655
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:33,201
could ever happen again.
656
00:32:33,201 --> 00:32:35,078
So I think that's
kind of what drives me
657
00:32:35,078 --> 00:32:38,039
and the fellow detectives
is you have this cold case
658
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:41,001
that hasn't been solved,
we have plenty of evidence,
659
00:32:41,001 --> 00:32:43,461
And just going back
through all that evidence
660
00:32:43,461 --> 00:32:45,964
and statements
that were made--
661
00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:50,427
see if we could find a link or
something that wasn't followed
662
00:32:50,427 --> 00:32:53,680
through with all the way
and maybe rule out
663
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,683
some of the people that
were already investigated,
664
00:32:56,683 --> 00:32:59,936
but kind of left in limbo
so we could definitely
665
00:32:59,936 --> 00:33:03,648
cross them off the list.
666
00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:06,234
REPORTER: It's 29 years later,
almost 30 years later.
667
00:33:06,234 --> 00:33:08,904
And if there's anything,
anything that
668
00:33:08,904 --> 00:33:13,200
covering her story today
can do to help bring closure--
669
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,703
um, you know, unfortunately,
Mary Ann has left us.
670
00:33:16,703 --> 00:33:18,872
She's passed away.
671
00:33:18,872 --> 00:33:21,833
And that breaks my heart to
think that she passed
672
00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:24,211
never knowing what happened
to her daughter,
673
00:33:24,211 --> 00:33:29,090
and that she lived all
those years without knowing.
674
00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:35,472
Even the day that they
found Melissa's body
675
00:33:35,472 --> 00:33:38,558
and we went to her home and--
676
00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:40,143
she invited us in.
677
00:33:40,143 --> 00:33:42,270
You know, her friends and
family were showing up.
678
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:43,772
Melissa's friends were there.
679
00:33:43,772 --> 00:33:45,523
She invited us into her home.
680
00:33:45,523 --> 00:33:51,238
And I just said, Mary Ann,
take this time for privacy.
681
00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:55,158
We'll report from outside.
682
00:33:55,158 --> 00:33:58,078
You need your--I had
so much respect for her
683
00:33:58,078 --> 00:34:00,956
and admiration for her
on how she handled
684
00:34:00,956 --> 00:34:03,083
herself through all of this.
685
00:34:03,083 --> 00:34:07,254
And in her memory and honor
and Missy's,
686
00:34:07,254 --> 00:34:10,173
if there's anything that we
could do to put out there
687
00:34:10,173 --> 00:34:16,388
that could bring either
justice or closure to this--
688
00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:18,431
I guess it would
make us feel better.
689
00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:19,724
I know she's with Missy now.
690
00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:21,101
You know,
I know they're together.
691
00:34:21,101 --> 00:34:23,103
I know she knows
what happened now.
692
00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:25,105
And that's the only thing
that honestly brings me
693
00:34:25,105 --> 00:34:27,023
consolation is that--
694
00:34:27,023 --> 00:34:28,984
is that I know
they're together.
695
00:34:28,984 --> 00:34:33,488
♪ ♪
696
00:34:33,488 --> 00:34:36,866
ALLEN: There's so much
to be--to review,
697
00:34:36,866 --> 00:34:39,577
so much information
to go over,
698
00:34:39,577 --> 00:34:41,413
boxes of materials
to go through.
699
00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:44,040
One person is easily
overwhelmed by that.
700
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,460
But if you get a group
of investigators that
701
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:49,879
are interested and will
spend a little bit of time
702
00:34:49,879 --> 00:34:52,841
individually and take a
piece of the investigation,
703
00:34:52,841 --> 00:34:56,761
then it's a force multiplier
to enhance the ability
704
00:34:56,761 --> 00:34:59,139
of the group to further
the investigation,
705
00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:03,435
to maybe get some clarity,
eliminate suspects,
706
00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:08,189
hopefully, theoretically,
conclude what happened
707
00:35:08,189 --> 00:35:10,483
and, you know,
potentially convict someone
708
00:35:10,483 --> 00:35:13,737
or at least close the case.
709
00:35:13,737 --> 00:35:16,531
DETECTIVE: I don't know how
guys and gals do this job
710
00:35:16,531 --> 00:35:19,200
without faith as a central
element to it because you
711
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,330
could quickly lose your hope,
faith in all things.
712
00:35:23,330 --> 00:35:27,125
But you just--
713
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,377
I've got on the back
of my work phone
714
00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:32,005
that from the
Gospel of John
715
00:35:32,005 --> 00:35:34,215
just to be a light
in the darkness.
716
00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:36,301
Coping with it, it's just
a matter of getting in there
717
00:35:36,301 --> 00:35:37,927
and realizing
that you've been--
718
00:35:37,927 --> 00:35:43,350
it's truly an honor to
get to do what we do,
719
00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:47,437
to shine light on these
situations and to help--
720
00:35:47,437 --> 00:35:49,814
maybe help deliver people
from them and help them
721
00:35:49,814 --> 00:35:52,442
find their way out.
722
00:35:52,442 --> 00:35:54,611
BRAD: From the night
that she was taken
723
00:35:54,611 --> 00:35:57,489
and seeing how everything
played out in the community,
724
00:35:57,489 --> 00:36:00,408
how it affected the family,
how it affected
725
00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:01,993
law enforcement, just--
726
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:06,247
and watching that the entire
time you're growing up
727
00:36:06,247 --> 00:36:08,333
and then being part of
this cold case group
728
00:36:08,333 --> 00:36:12,962
that is on the other end
of it working the case,
729
00:36:12,962 --> 00:36:15,507
and seeing all the work
that's gone into it--
730
00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:19,052
I mean, it's very surreal.
731
00:36:19,052 --> 00:36:21,221
DANNY: But then also too,
we got to be mindful of,
732
00:36:21,221 --> 00:36:24,015
you know,
however many years left
733
00:36:24,015 --> 00:36:27,769
we have in law enforcement,
what we do today is extremely
734
00:36:27,769 --> 00:36:31,940
important because if we're
not doing it right now,
735
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:33,483
the right way--
736
00:36:33,483 --> 00:36:36,361
and say we don't solve the
case and it gets passed on
737
00:36:36,361 --> 00:36:38,029
to the next detective,
738
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:40,490
you know, he's going
to look at what we did
739
00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:45,161
and then have to go off of our
notes, what we've discovered,
740
00:36:45,161 --> 00:36:49,082
you know, and some day, find
a piece that we're missing,
741
00:36:49,082 --> 00:36:52,127
add it to the rest of
the case, and solve it.
742
00:36:52,127 --> 00:36:54,087
I mean, everybody plays a part.
743
00:36:54,087 --> 00:36:56,589
So we're hopeful
we solve the case
744
00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:58,800
or get a closure on that end.
745
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,803
But if we don't, we're
still laying the foundation
746
00:37:01,803 --> 00:37:03,930
or climbing the
ladder to whoever
747
00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:07,016
is able to solve that case.
748
00:37:07,016 --> 00:37:09,102
ALLEN: You know,
Melissa Witt's case, where,
749
00:37:09,102 --> 00:37:10,937
you know,
her family's deceased,
750
00:37:10,937 --> 00:37:12,772
and a person would say, well,
751
00:37:12,772 --> 00:37:14,399
what closure are you
giving to anyone?
752
00:37:14,399 --> 00:37:16,317
Well, it doesn't matter in
the grand scheme of things,
753
00:37:16,317 --> 00:37:19,863
because, you know,
it's important
754
00:37:19,863 --> 00:37:22,240
to get justice for people.
755
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:25,034
It's important for--
756
00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:28,621
it gets to me in a way
because I think of--
757
00:37:28,621 --> 00:37:30,290
and maybe it's wrong,
but I think of, like,
758
00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:32,292
Melissa Witt as a--
759
00:37:32,292 --> 00:37:37,672
she was a 19-year-old girl
who did nothing wrong.
760
00:37:37,672 --> 00:37:40,216
And her last hours
on this Earth
761
00:37:40,216 --> 00:37:44,262
were probably the most horrific
a person can experience.
762
00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:46,890
And that 19-year-old
Melissa Witt
763
00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:50,101
deserves justice and deserves
our best effort of justice.
764
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:53,772
Even if we fail, at least
we give it our best effort
765
00:37:53,772 --> 00:37:56,357
and do the best we can
to get her justice
766
00:37:56,357 --> 00:37:57,984
because that's what
she deserved then.
767
00:37:57,984 --> 00:37:59,611
She deserves it now.
768
00:37:59,611 --> 00:38:02,864
You know, any victim of that
kind of crime deserves it.
769
00:38:02,864 --> 00:38:04,824
And if you don't have
a heart towards that,
770
00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:07,285
then you have no conscience.
771
00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:10,205
[sniffles]
772
00:38:13,833 --> 00:38:17,462
♪ ♪
773
00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:19,798
[sirens wailing]
774
00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:22,800
BRAD: It was December,
so you never know.
775
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,220
I mean, she could
have fought back,
776
00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:28,556
and the killer could have had a
long-sleeve jacket on or shirt
777
00:38:28,556 --> 00:38:31,810
or, you know,
something like that where
778
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,937
she just was not able
to collect that DNA
779
00:38:33,937 --> 00:38:35,939
under her fingernails.
780
00:38:35,939 --> 00:38:37,816
Melissa was unfortunately
out in the elements
781
00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:41,903
for several days
and exposed to,
782
00:38:41,903 --> 00:38:46,366
you know, the sun,
the snow, the cold weather,
783
00:38:46,366 --> 00:38:48,743
things like that, wildlife.
784
00:38:48,743 --> 00:38:50,328
When you put all that
into account,
785
00:38:50,328 --> 00:38:53,498
you know, DNA starts to
deteriorate rather quickly.
786
00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:57,126
You know, when we get assigned
these cases, even new cases,
787
00:38:57,126 --> 00:38:58,836
we become involved in them.
788
00:38:58,836 --> 00:39:02,382
I mean, you meet with these
people, you speak with them.
789
00:39:02,382 --> 00:39:03,800
And just like in
this case, you know,
790
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,593
we've talked about
Melissa's diary
791
00:39:05,593 --> 00:39:09,264
and how personal it was
and how involved
792
00:39:09,264 --> 00:39:11,474
and how real it makes it.
793
00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:13,768
It's almost like you're
entering into her world.
794
00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:16,729
We had numerous blood spots
located in the bowling alley
795
00:39:16,729 --> 00:39:19,065
that we know all
haven't been tested.
796
00:39:19,065 --> 00:39:22,860
So we got to just kind of
797
00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:25,238
move forward
and hope for the best
798
00:39:25,238 --> 00:39:27,657
with the evidence
that we have and
799
00:39:27,657 --> 00:39:29,784
start looking at
the next suspect.
800
00:39:29,784 --> 00:39:32,579
REPORTER: She was walking from
her job at Hardee's on Waldron
801
00:39:32,579 --> 00:39:35,623
in Fort Smith when she was
approached by a man
802
00:39:35,623 --> 00:39:37,208
who tried to abduct her.
803
00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:40,420
That man was allegedly
Dustin Markel.
804
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:43,214
- Within a minute or two, he
had grabbed me by my right arm,
805
00:39:43,214 --> 00:39:45,884
and I jerked away.
806
00:39:45,884 --> 00:39:47,468
BRAD: He had very lengthy
criminal history,
807
00:39:47,468 --> 00:39:51,389
including sexual assaults,
attempted rapes, rapes.
808
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,683
You know, he had
attempted a kidnapping
809
00:39:53,683 --> 00:39:56,728
at Central Mall
from a lady that
810
00:39:56,728 --> 00:39:58,646
was luckily able to escape.
811
00:39:58,646 --> 00:40:03,109
And, you know, the day
after Melissa was abducted,
812
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:07,655
this individual left the area
and left the state.
813
00:40:07,655 --> 00:40:10,199
You know, there's, like
I said, several people
814
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:12,410
in this case file, and
we've just kind of scratched
815
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:14,162
the surface of it.
816
00:40:14,162 --> 00:40:19,125
So we'll keep pushing until we
get the results that we want.
817
00:40:19,125 --> 00:40:22,795
♪ ♪
818
00:40:26,341 --> 00:40:29,344
[somber music]
819
00:40:29,344 --> 00:40:36,351
♪ ♪
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