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[Trey] Halt. You're right
on the edge,
but it is fading away.

The team, when they went
to the area,

they completely disappear.

Did they just disappear?

I was filming
these two bright,
gold colored objects,

and then something gets
ejected out of one of them.

[metal detector beeping]

I said, bro,
come check this out.

What we pulled
out of the ground
was totally unexpected.

This piece of metal
is unlike anything
I've ever seen before.

[woman 1] I see it again.
I see it. I see it.

[man 1] Oh my God.
Holy [bleep]

[man 2]
You've got to see this.
You've got to see this.

[narrator] Around the world,
people are witnessing

and capturing
unexplained phenomena
every day.

There's a feeling you get.

The hairs on your arms
and your neck
kind of stand up.

[woman 2] What the [bleep]
[chuckling] is that?

There was a lot
that pointed me
in the direction

of something non-human.

[woman 3] Oh [bleep]
There it goes.

[man 3 speaking]

[narrator] And they are
looking for answers.

It left me
with a lot of questions.

[narrator] The recent release
of thousands of pages

of declassified
US government documents,

whistleblower testimony...

[David] These objects
have been observed
for over two weeks,

coming down
from over 80,000 feet.

...and shocking new evidence
could hold the answer.

Can you confirm
that's what it was?

-Yes, that's what it was.
-[Chrissy] Okay.

[narrator] Now, two expert
investigators will use
this new information

and their expertise
to unlock the truth.

[shudders] I'm experiencing
chills over here.

[narrator] Mitch Horowitz
is an author
and historian

known for
his investigative research
into the unexplained.

You all have had some
very mysterious experiences.

The video
was extremely compelling.

[narrator] And Chrissy Newton
is a journalist and authority

on space, science
and the unknown.

And we were told that
this was a secret location?

Absolutely.

When I looked up,
I saw a UFO in the sky.

[narrator] Thousands
of experiencers came forward

and submitted
their personal stories

and evidence
for examination...

These beings were
so gloriously beautiful.

...hoping to finally separate
fact from fiction.

[Mitch] Based on everything
that you've brought
to the table...

You witnessed a UFO.

[mysterious music playing]

[indistinct conversation]

So we've spent a little
bit of time in Roswell.

What's your my favorite
part of this city so far?

[Mitch] I love the desert.
I dig the people.

I like the history.
I like it here.

Yeah, I like that
there's a little bit
of a touch

of a UFO
or an alien everywhere.

That's my favorite thing.

I know that this is the place
where I will get
all my UFO paraphernalia

that I can't get
anywhere else.

-Right.
-Yeah.

-Hey, Trey. How are you?
-Hey.

-I'm Mitch.
-Mitch.

-Chrissy.
-Chrissy, how are you?

-Nice to meet you.
I'm good. How are you, sir?
-Please, have a seat.

Um, we have received,
of course, your story

and the data and evidence
that you sent along with it.

Chrissy has reviewed
your data and account

with a team of experts
and analysts,

-and she is going to bring
their answers to the fore.
-[Trey] Sure.

[Mitch] Let me start
by asking.

Please tell us what happened.

Give us your account.

[eerie music playing]

My name is Trey Hudson,

and I think we've captured
footage of a portal,

a gateway or doorway
into somewhere
or something else.

I'm a researcher,
and I've always been
interested in, you know,

things of high strangeness,
you know, be it UFOs,
cryptids, things like that.

I have a team and my team
is made up of engineers,

you know, professional people.

We've been investigating
and researching since 2017.

It's a place
we call The Meadow.

There's a lot of folklore
in that area.

That region is known
for high strangeness.

There are numerous reports
of paranormal occurrences.

So on 11th of February, 2017,

we decided we were going
to set up in The Meadow,

equipped with thermal
and night vision.

[eerie music intensifies]

-[woman] Oh, there they are.
-[Trey] We see you.

We had clear visibility.

We know what our teammates
look like on thermal.

We're used to seeing them
at various distances,

so we know what
a human being size
thing looks like.

Continue heading
toward the entrance
of The Meadow.

Just stay right on the edge
of the woodline.

So we received
a radio transmission
from one of our teams

on the east end of The Meadow.

And they said, "Hey,
we have something
happening here.

You need to come over
and check it out."

See that square box?

You see the X beside it
or the cross?

You see the cross forming?

I got over there
and they said they started
seeing on their thermals

boxes forming
in different places
in The Meadow.

Halt. You're right
on the edge,
but it is fading away.

It's at least 25 foot tall.

So this was interesting
because cubes and boxes
are something that you see

at others places
of high strangeness.

It's-- It's like
a reoccurring theme.

-We're recording the site.
-[woman] All right.

The team, when they went
to the area

where this cube
or box was formed,

they completely disappeared
off our thermal.

[woman] I can't see 'em.

[Trey]
Did they just disappear?

What my team reported
when they entered
into this area

is a temperature drop.

Things were chilly,
things were cold,

and it was very dark
and still,

like being inside
of a black velvet bag

or inside
of a blackout curtain.

Team three,
what is your location?

It's completely
faded away now. It's gone.

It's odd because this area,
there really wasn't anything

that would completely block
and obliterate
their heat signature.

That's just not something
that was possible.

The wildest explanation
is they actually
weren't there.

They were somewhere else.

[mysterious music playing]

[woman] All right.
There they are.

[Trey] I think they walked
into a portal.

What is a portal?

It is a gateway or doorway
into somewhere
or something else.

It's almost like
there were two realities.

There was a reality
of The Meadow

that we were used
to seeing every day,

and then there was the reality
of The Meadow
that they had stepped into.

Except these things
were existing
at the same time.

Two weeks later,
we did a recreation
during the daytime

and we were not able
to get our team

to completely hide
their thermal signature.

So in an environment
where you would think

that we would be able
to replicate it...

We were not able to.

What do you hope to gain
from this exchange today?

What outcome
are you looking for?

Not only do I not have
the answers,

I don't even have
the questions.

If our experiences
were validated,

it would just,
you know, telling us
that we're on the right track.

This is an area of Alabama
that is just really rich
in folklore.

-UFOs, UAPs, cryptids.
-[Chrissy] Right.

And we were told that
this was a secret location?

-Yes.
-Okay.

Yeah, the latitude
and longitude and all that.

-That was given
to our team to analyze.
-[Trey] Absolutely.

And I don't do that
to be difficult, but--

-[Chrissy] No, no.
-This is on public land.

And if the location is ever,
you know, released,

meaningful research
in the future would severely
be compromised.

Chrissy worked with a team
of researchers to analyze
the evidence you submitted.

[narrator] Trey submitted
a thermal image video

of people disappearing
in the woods

that he recorded
on February 11th 2017
for examination.

Are you ready for me
to go through
some analytics with you?

-Sure, please.
-Okay.

One of our experts,
Ben Hansen, looked at this,

and he said that
from observing the area
and the region,

that there's hot springs.

And so he thought
that this could have been

-some kind of warm mist
that was blocking the camera.
-[Trey] Mm-hmm.

That particular area
we know very well.

There is not a hot spring.

And during the video,

the heat signatures
of the team members

were very bright
and brilliant.

And there was nothing
that was dense enough

that would completely
obliterate a heat signature

in that part of The Meadow.

The next thing,
we had two different experts
look at this.

And they both appeared to say
that the subjects simply
walked behind a tree.

-That's a pretty
ordinary explanation.
-[Trey] It is.

There were no trees
that were large enough

to block the heat signatures
of three people.

[Chrissy] So why do you think
that they did not disappear
during the reenactment?

[Trey] I think,
for whatever it was,

it was not present
when we did the reenactment.

So what is "it" to you?

It is some sort of
unexplainable phenomena,

you know, that's transient.
That's not always there.

Are you talking about
what people call a portal?

[narrator] Portals,
often called wormholes,
have been theorized

as being the way
in which UFOs travel
in and out of our airspace.

On January 16th, 2019,
the CIA declassified a report
on traversable wormholes

that was commissioned
by the Defense Intelligence
Agency in 2009

as part of
a top secret investigation

into how UFOs
and other aerial phenomena
might travel to Earth.

If there were certain
physical attributes
of the environment

that were not there
at one time,

and they were there
taking the same route
back out,

it was a doorway of sorts,
i.e. a portal.

So, Trey, I had three experts
analyze this, come back.

You know, I was thinking
that maybe they would have
a difference of opinion,

but my job is to work
with the data that I have

I have to say that...

It's inconclusive.

Based on everything
I've taken in here,

your account, your evidence,
I believe...

[metal detector beeping]

[Joe] I noticed
a little buzz
in the metal detector.

The gauge went up.

[beeping continues]

What we pulled
out of the ground
was totally unexpected.

So, Trey, I had three experts
analyze this, come back.

You know, I was thinking
that maybe they would have
a difference of opinion,

but my job is to work
with the data that I have.

I have to say that...

It's inconclusive.

[Mitch] You know,
it's interesting.

There are some people
who might think,

"Oh, this is really
far out stuff."

Is it? Is it far out?

You know,
Einstein's theories
themselves,

which, if you explain them
to people seem very far out,

have in fact been proven
in our own era.

Our astronauts,
although they are
obviously traveling

nowhere near the velocity
of light speed.

They do experience minute
but measurable reductions
in the aging process.

-[Trey] Yeah.
-Time is not absolute.

It's constantly changing.

Its reality, as real as
the words that we're speaking.

When I evaluate
these situations,

I take into account
the presence of evidence,

the credibility
of the witness,
the experiencer.

I think you have stepped up

not only
with research, data, imagery.

But I think you
and your colleagues
are profoundly well trained,

grounded people.

You have
an appropriate background.

You're using appropriate tech,
and I think you have raised

and deepened
some extraordinary questions.

I think so, too.

Based on everything
I've taken in here,

your account, your evidence,
the analysis, the history,

I believe...

Because science dictates
that it's inconclusive,

I agree
with Chrissy's assessment.

At the same time,
you and your colleagues
have brought forth data

that has deepened
our questions,

and it would be a crime
against inquiry

not to continue
your research and work.

-Yeah, thank you. We'll do so.
-[Mitch] Yeah.

Trey, a pleasure.
Thank you so much.

-Yes. Thank you
for your service.
-Pleasure is all mine.

-You're quite welcome.
-Thank you.

-You have a good evening.
-All right.

You know, I think
the analysis was spot on it.

It was an event
that was so outside
of the realm of normality,

of what we normally see,
you know,
in the world around us.

So inconclusive
is a very fair assessment

because, quite frankly,
I don't know what we captured.

I wish we could have
provided Trey

with something
more conclusive.

That's what one
always hopes for.

Yeah, these cases
are so challenging

for the fact that there's not
much science we can go on

that is hard science.

There is something
very strange
going on this location,

and we can have two realities
existing at the same time.

[anticipatory music playing]

What's your poison
tonight, Chrissy?

Ooh. We've had
a couple of cocktails
since we've been here,

so I think I'm gonna
just go light
and do an Irish coffee.

[Mitch] I'm gonna go
light too.

-I'm gonna continue
with my whiskey and coke.
-[Chrissy laughs]

That's right.
Keeping my critical faculties
about me.

-Right.
-I'm pretty proud of myself.

Critical thinking
is so important.

My man. How you doing?

-Mitch.
-Jason.

-Hi. Christy.
-Jason.

-Nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you guys too.

-[Mitch] Thanks
for being here.
-Yep.

Let me tell you
what our process is.

We received your story,
of course, and the data

and the information
that you sent

which Chrissy has reviewed
and consulted on
with a group of experts.

But we want to hear
your story as well
directly from you

to ensure that
we haven't missed anything.

So I want to start off
by asking you

to please tell us
what transpired.

[dramatic music playing]

My name is Jason Suraci,
and I'm a bicycle mechanic.

I couldn't tell you
what I saw,

but it could be
something extraterrestrial.

I've pretty much
dedicated my life
to looking for UFOs,

and I'd consider myself
an expert.

I usually put six hours
a night in

watching the sky
from 1:00 a.m. 'til sunrise.

I've seen daytime objects.

I've seen objects at nighttime
on night vision.

The night vision I have
is third generation
night vision goggles.

The military used to use them.

They're the best
for filming the night sky.

If you put in
the time and effort,
you will see something.

On January 25th, 2023,
at 3:24 a.m.,

I was outside doing
a sky watch in my backyard.

I was filming these two
bright, gold colored objects

traveling from left
to right across the sky

and seemed to be flying around
40,000 feet in altitude

and moving three,
four times faster
than commercial flights.

And then something gets
ejected out of one of them.

[eerie music playing]

It looked like a little
tick tack object

that just came out real quick
and disappeared.

I'm not sure what it was.

I was tracking satellites
and airplanes,

and there were no satellites
on my tracker when it happened

and there was no aircraft
on my other tracker.

I'm actually surprised.
I even got lucky enough
to film something like that.

[Mitch] Now you're a dedicated
sky watcher.

-[Jason] Yep.
-You have some very
serious civilian equipment.

How long has that been
an interest of yours?

-Pretty much my whole life.
-No kidding.

I've seen UFOs before,
and it piqued my interest.

What do you hope to gain
from this exchange today?

I want answers to the things
that I've seen over the years

that I've been doing this.

You've also submitted
some evidence and data,

which Chrissy and a team
of researchers have analyzed.

[narrator] Jason submitted
a 3 minute, 24 second-long
video of an object appearing

to eject another object
that he filmed

on January 25th, 2023,
for analysis.

[Mitch] So you're very willing
for us to debunk it?

-Yeah.
-Why is that?

Because you just can't
call something a UFO

and expect it
to be extraterrestrial.

The truth is more important
than calling it
something it's not.

And yet your impression is

based on the data
that you've gathered

and what you witnessed,
that it is a UFO.

A UFO, yeah,
but could it be
extraterrestrial? Maye.

-[Mitch] Mm-hmm.
-That's still up in the air.

So let's go back to the thing
that was being ejected
out of the alleged UAP.

That's pretty amazing.

[Jason] I was watching it
on night vision,

and I thought I saw something
get ejected

or a flash
that came out of it.

Then I watched on playback
and I was like,
"Holy crap. There--

It's-- Something may have
actually came out of this."

I'd like to show you these.

Can you tell me
what you see here?

[Jason] These look like
the objects that I filmed
in my video.

[Chrissy] Can you tell me
which one you feel
is the object

or the alleged UAP?

This one.

[Chrissy] When we were doing
some research,

one thing we found out
looking at traffic
and flight patterns,

we see that the objects
are likely...

Not aircrafts.

We also search ADSB satellite,

ISS and rocket launch data

for that date and time
and location too

to see if there was anything
that was happening

or any activity
within that region.

And...

We didn't find
any comparable data as well.

So we had no idea
what it could be.

I have to look
at the data that I have,

so that's why we came
to the conclusion
that the objects are likely...

[chuckles]

We also search ADSB satellite,

ISS and rocket launch data

for that date and time
and location too

to see if there was anything
that was happening

or any activity
within that region.

And...

We didn't find
any comparable data as well.

So we had no idea
what it could be.

And so, then we reviewed
the type of technology
that you were using,

-and it was the NG goggles
that were used.
-Yep.

Why are they so important
do you think for using
for researching UAPs?

Because you can see
extremely deep
into the star field.

-Okay.
-[Jason] And if there's
a tiny object up there,

you're gonna see it
on night vision

way before you see it
on any other camera.

[narrator] To record the image
of the object,

Suraci used a Gen 3,
military grade

night vision scope
attached to a cell phone.

So how many videos
have you taken
with that night vision?

Um, thousands.

I'm out there every night
for at least six hours
if I can be.

-Right. And so you're saying
that this was the UAP, right?
-[Jason] Yep.

[Chrissy] This was actually
the alleged UAP
that you said it was.

-Yes, this is here. This one.
-Oh yeah.

-[Chrissy] No, that's okay.
-It's hard to tell
in the photos. That's all.

[Chrissy] So what we're seeing
here are a whole bunch
of digital artifacts

when we zoom into it.

And so that's why we came
to the conclusion that...

More than likely,
it's a digital artifact.

[narrator] Gen 3
night vision cameras
boost the ambient light

up to 50,000 times,

and are popular
because they can capture

hundreds more stars,
aircraft and satellites

versus standard
consumer grade cameras.

However, because the light
levels are so low,

the recorded video is prone
to artifacting
or digital noise.

This artifacting
is unintentional

and can sometimes be mistaken
for unexplained objects.

I don't think
it was a digital artifact.

Why is that?

Because I've never seen
that happen before
on my equipment.

We were talking to Ben Hansen,

-a wonderful UFO researcher,
very notable in his space...
-Yep.

...works with tons
of different academics.

Ben Hansen has told us
that it's considered
grainy noise

because the increase
of the light--

I understand what he's saying,
but I don't think it was that.

-Why is that?
-I've never seen
a digital artifact

like that on my night vision.

Okay. Where have you seen
other digital artifacts?

Bad conditions.

If you're filming
with overcast,

you're gonna get a lot
of digital artifacts
on night vision.

But there was no overcast
or clouds that night.

It was just clear skies.

If that was
a digital artifact,

I would see that
in a lot of my other videos.

And that's never happened.

-It's never happened
once before?
-[Jason] No.

Any of your other equipment?

-No.
-[Chrissy] No.

You know, I have to look
at the data that I have.

-Loss for words.
-If you don't accept
my conclusion--

No, I do.
I do accept the conclusion

because everybody has
the right to have
their opinion.

I can't tell you
that it's not that.

Everyone has their own opinion
and they're entitled to it,

and I'm not going to
fight them over it.

Jason, I have a few things
I want to unpack with you.

You said something that
I want to see carved
in Mount Rushmore.

And it was, "The truth
is more important

than calling it
something it's not".

You are an ideal witness
because you bring to the table
technical expertise

and you question.

You've been questioning
your whole life.

I never like to tell someone
that something is not a UFO

unless there is an absolute

certain alternative
that explains it.

So in that vein,
I'd have to say that

the word unidentified
is still accurate.

To my mind,
what you witnessed is...

A UFO.

I hope it is.

Jason has obviously put in
a lot of effort
regarding his documentation.

-He's in possession of some
really advanced hardware.
-Mm-hmm.

He seems to me
to make a good argument.

Does anything that he's
brought to the table,

alter your perspective
on this case?

So I stand by my evidence

and I stand by Ben Hansen's
and myself's research

and the conclusion
that I have.

So I do have to say that,
and I 100% stand by...

And I don't think it's a UFO.

It's been a pleasure, man.

-Thank you so much.
-Nice meeting you guys.

-[Mitch] Likewise.
-[Chrissy] Thank you so much.

-Yep.
-[Chrissy] Thank you.

[Mitch] Impressive guy.

[Chrissy] He knew his stuff.

I really appreciate
that we could have
a really great discussion.

He brought up some new points
that weren't considered
when Ben and I were speaking.

So I think it's important
that he was open minded

to say this could be
a UAP or not.

But you know what?
I stuck by
what I thought it was

and my conclusions,
but he also stuck by his.

-And I have respect for that.
-Yeah.

I've put in more time
into UFOs than probably
anybody else.

As much as I appreciate
people in a bar
telling me what I saw,

the difference is
I'm out there every night

and I 100% think it's a UFO,

and I know
what I'm talking about.

[funky synth music playing]

Well, we're nearing the close
to our time in Roswell.

-[Chrissy] We are.
-[Mitch] And I'm hoping

these last cases bring in
some key evidence.

We've got some
physical evidence
that we've been looking at.

[Chrissy] Yeah, we've had tons
of different cases.

Mm-hmm.
Well, I'm gonna miss Roswell.

-I'm not gonna want to leave.
-I know.

-[Mitch] Hey, guys.
-Hello.

[Mitch] Welcome.
How you doing?

Thanks for coming, you all.

-Yeah. We're happy to be here.
-Yeah.

So let me tell you
what we hope
to accomplish here today.

We have your account.

We have your testimony.

We have the physical evidence
that you've submitted,

which Chrissy has analyzed
with researchers,

and she is going to be
sharing their findings.

And we'd like to hear
your story,

how you retrieved
this intriguing object.

Yeah, absolutely.

[mysterious music playing]

-I'm Emmett.
-I'm Joe.

And we believe we found
a piece of an alien spaceship.

Joe and I are brothers,
so we call ourselves
The UFO Bros

and we started this back,
like, in 2016,

where we were investigating
Area 51, Roswell.

And since then
we've just been traveling

and going to
different hot spots,

and we're the investigators
of the phenomenon.

So we go out looking for UFOs
and UAPs and anything
and all related to it.

We were researching
a bunch of crashes

from the 40s and the 50s,

and we were going,
"Was there anything
that happened recently?"

Which led us
to Needles, California.

In the spring of 2008,
something came blazing
out of the sky

and crashed into the banks
of the Colorado River.

[metal detector beeping]

I said, bro,
come check this out.

What we pulled
out of the ground
was totally unexpected.

This piece of metal
is unlike anything
I've ever seen before.

In the spring of 2008,
something came blazing
out of the sky

and crashed into the banks
of the Colorado River.

[female reporter]
Something fell out of the sky

and landed with a thud
on the riverbank
south of Needles.

[man] That's when I saw
the bright turquoise,
blue green flame,

and it was coming directly
straight down out of the sky.

[male reporter] The choppers
arrived only 17 minutes
after the object crashed,

and a giant sky crane
was used to haul the object

into the air
and away toward the north.

The fact that there were
people here the next day,
almost like a team,

it seemed like
that they were doing
either some sort of cleanup.

Residents say
after the choppers
came the men in black.

Was it a spy plane or a drone?

Or something more exotic?

And, of course,
we're calling it a UFO.

It is still unidentified.

[male reporter]
Figuring out what it was
is still a tall order.

The 2008 Needles UFO crash
had everything.

It had local
eyewitness accounts.

It had scientists
in the local military

that came in, as well as
an actual crash site,

a place that
we could physically go

and see if we can
find anything

that others left there
and forgot.

So we headed down, set out
on our investigation
in Needles.

So the first thing
we did when we arrived

in Needles, California
is met with Frank Costigan.

He introduced us
to a local surveyor

who had actually surveyed
the crash site.

So we got maps

and the location
of the crash site.

And so what we did
is we took our tools
and our metal detectors,

and we headed down
to the crash site.

[metal detector beeping]

[Joe] It was a very warm day
in Needles. It was July.

When we got out
of the our vehicle,

we had to walk
about a quarter of a mile

through sand dunes
in the heat,

the wind hitting us
in the face,
the sand hitting our eyes,

carrying all this equipment,
trying to find any sign of...

People being there,
you know,
military scraps, buttons,

anything that would
show like signs

that there were people there
because there was nothing.

It was just an open, big,
empty sand field basically.

We spent hours out
in the middle
of the sand in the desert

looking for anything at all
that we could find.

[beeping]

I noticed something,
a little buzz
in the metal detector.

And then I looked down
and the gauge went up.

[beeping speeds up]

I said, bro,
come check this out.

We got to signal of something.

There's something here.
It's not saying
what kind of metal is,

but it's saying
there's something here.

I got down my hands and knees
and dug out.

And we found something about
a foot and a half deep.

And what we pulled
out of the ground
was totally unexpected,

not at all
where it should have been.

There was no broken down cars.

There was no RVs.

There was no trash anywhere.

It was just dead desert.

When I pulled a piece of metal
out of the ground, I was like,
"What the heck is this?"

It was slick.

It was kind of a little slimy,
just a little bit
from being in the dirt.

It was a little bit shiny
with, like a--

-Yellow sheen on one side.
-A yellow sheen on it.

[Emmett] And we noticed
this strange bubbling on it.

This weird bubble on the metal
that I don't know
how it would even be there

because there was no
char marks on the metal.

[Emmett] It also looks
as though it's been ripped off
or exploded off of something

because there's rip marks
through the metal.

There's no cutting.

What it looks like
it's been a piece of metal

-through like a tragic event.
-Mm-hmm.

[Emmett] It's exploded off
of something and heated

to a very high temperature
and cooled very quickly

with no scorch marks
or anything like that.

[Joe] This piece of metal
is unlike anything
I've ever seen before.

We have been holding on
to this piece of metal
since 2017.

We've had
some hands on experts
take a look at it,

and we've just been told
we've got to get it tested.

Unfortunately,
the testing process

-is very expensive.
-Is expensive.

I want to know
if this piece of metal
is actually from outer space

or if it's been to space,

and if there is any a sign

that there's something weird
or different about it,

or if it's just
a plain piece of metal.

I think ultimately
we want more answers.

You brought with you
a special case.

-We wanna-- Wanna see
what's in there.
-I sure did.

-We brought the piece.
-[Mitch] Sweet.

-[Chrissy] Let's see
the goods.
-[Mitch] All right.

Here it is.

-Wow.
-[mimics choir vocalizing]

[narrator]
Joe and Emmett Hayes submitted

a 12-inch by 5-inch
piece of metal

that they found in 2017
in Needles, California.

[Mitch] Okay.

Is there a reason
why the Needles story

is not as publicized
as Roswell

and all the other
crash stories?

We had this crash,
and then there was
an actual effort

to silence locals.

But I think a lot of people
want answers
in Needles, California.

They want to know what it was.

And now what do you hope
we can provide?

Maybe some answers
as to the bubbling

and, of course,
what its composition is.

Well, I'm eager to hear
what the analysis has shown.

[Emmett] All right.

-Let me get a drink for this.
-[Chrissy chuckles] Yeah.

[Chrissy] So we've done
multiple tests.

So the first thing we did
was look at
a mass spectrometry test.

[narrator] Mass spectrometry
is a highly accurate test

used to identify and measure
the exact composition

of unknown substances
at the molecular level.

So we performed that test
on that material.

And we have the results.

[dramatic music playing]

So the testing
revealed that...

[dramatic music building]

It's pure aluminum.

So pure aluminum
does not occur naturally,

and this is pure aluminum.

-Holy moly.
-Wow.

-[laughs]
-Wow.

[narrator] Aluminum
is the third most common
element on Earth,

but it is highly reactive
and bonds very quickly
with other elements,

creating metals called alloys.

Because of this, pure aluminum
is almost never found
in its native state.

Yeah, I want to emphasize
something here

because it really bears
shouting out.

Pure aluminum is not used
for any of our aeronautical

or manufacturing
processes worldwide.

The aluminum that we use
is an alloy or a compound.

It's combined with
other elements
in order to strengthen it.

Aluminum, as a naturally
occurring element,

and it's bountiful
throughout the universe,

it tends to be unstable.

So here in our neighborhood,
which is to say,
the planet Earth,

we do not use pure aluminum
for aerospace,
flight or manufacturing.

Being in
the UFO counterculture,

you're familiar with
the name Jacques Vallee?

Absolutely. Yes.

Amazing computer scientists,
UFO researcher.

Jacques Vallee has examined
over ten UFO crash sites.

With Vallee's research
that he's done
on these crash sites,

there has been
multiple amounts
of pure aluminum.

-Really?
-[Chrissy] Yeah.

-Wow.
-But there is more.

[Emmett] Okay.

We did one last thing.

So what I have here is that...

Wow.

[producer] Everybody settle.
We're gonna get back into it.

[Mitch] Shooting a series
in an active bar

like The Variety
has its challenges.

Welcome to the world
of UFO investigations.

There are noises.

-[tap hissing]
-[balls clattering]

[register rings]

[liquid gurgling]

-[neon sign buzzing]
- Unforeseen interruptions.

[Chrissy] So what we try to do
when we have data--

-UFO databases--
-[alarm pinging]

-It's okay.
-I'm sorry.

-[gasps] No problem.
-Oh no.

-It's okay.
-[waitress] I'll bring you
another one.

I've never heard that
two people are having
the same experience

-in the same-- Yeah.
-Yeah.

-The same--
-[Mitch] Or like some shared
hallucination or something.

And let's face it,
you're in a bar.

Anything can happen.

-All right, Hold on.
-[frames clatter]

-[producer] Oh geez. Hold on.
-Well...

-I know I did. I know I did.
-[laughing]

-[chuckling]
-Okay, so where were we?

But all in all,
it was the best place
to be to find the stories.

-Cheers. Oh my God.
-Thank you. Cheers.

Jacques Vallee has examined
over ten UFO crash sites.

With Vallee's research
that he's done
on these crash sites,

there has been
multiple amounts
of pure aluminum.

-Really?
-Yeah.

-Wow.
-But there is more.

[Emmett] Okay.

[Chrissy] Are you familiar
with the name AATIP?

Absolutely.

AATIP was a UFO program...

-[Chrissy] Yeah.
-...where they investigated

anomalous UAPs and UFOs
and other phenomenons.

It was. It was
a full government program.

Our source from AATIP found
that there was pure aluminum

in multiple other UAP
crash sites as well.

So those data points connect.

Yeah. Wow, that's amazing.

It's awesome that somebody
from AATIP themselves actually

was able to take a look
and analyze it.

That gives me
a lot of confidence.

-[Chrissy] Yeah.
-Knowing that
we have something

that, you know, connects
and corroborates
with other UFO crashes.

-[Chrissy] Yeah.
-That's just
an incredible thing.

We did one last thing.

Within our research here,
being in Roswell,

and talking to
different people.

One other person
who's been at the Roswell
crash site from 1947,

he found a piece as well.

My name is Frank Kimbler,
and I believe that

I have found UFO wreckage
from the Roswell crash site.

So the testing
revealed that...

It's pure aluminum.

-Pure?
-Pure aluminum.

Now-- Now I've got
lots of chills.

So we're definitely a part
of the UFO crash circle?

-[Chrissy] You're-- Yeah.
-[laughs] That's great.

So what do you see here?

What is this to you
if you had to identify it?

A melted bubble?

[Emmett] Yeah, it looks like
it was heated rapidly

and cooled rapidly,
in my opinion.

So what I have here
is that this is evidence

of extreme heat
and destructive g-forces.

-Wow.
-Wow.

Yeah. This is evidence
to a crash

or a ground-based explosion.

-Wow.
-Wow.

Yeah, that's amazing.
It looks like it was part

of an explosion
or blew off of something.

So this could be
an actual piece

of what crashed
in Needles, California.

-Wow.
-[Chrissy] It's pretty
amazing, that's for sure.

Mitch, What about you?

What's interesting
is that this resulted

from your own
independent research.

Yeah.

There is a scent trail here,

and it unifies a variety
of different crash sites,

dispersed around
different parts of the world.

It's really remarkable.

It is overwhelmingly likely

that you boys retrieved

a piece of material evidence
from the UFO.

-Wow.
-[Chrissy] That's-- Yeah.

Wow.

Wow. Just a couple of dudes
heading out to the desert

and we find
something like this.

This is the era
of the citizen seeker.

And you guys are impeccable
citizen seekers.

-How does all this
make you feel?
-[Chrissy] Yeah.

Wow, it's a--
It's a bit of a shock. Um...

-Sigh of relief
-And a sigh of relief,
in a sense,

to know that, you know,
it's not a soda can.

I would say what really
makes me happy is knowing

that it actually connects
with other UFO cases

-around the world.
-[Chrissy] Yeah.

Don't let this
out of your sight,
needless to say.

-Needles, Needles to stay.
-Needles to say.

-[laughing]
-Boom.

-All right, let's drink.
-Thank y'all.

-Cheers
-Can we do a cheers?

-Yes. Cheers.
-Of course.

-Yeah.
-[Chrissy] Cheers to
pure aluminum.

It's very validating
because we're in
such a field of naysayers

and everybody wants
proof and--

-There's doubt.
-And there's doubt.

And we've been validated.

We have a piece of a UFO.

We have a piece of something
that nobody else
in the world has.

[Chrissy] That was fun.

This is amazing. [chuckles]

[Mitch] Kind of
hard to believe.

They stepped up with material

that they recovered
from a potential crash site.

Amazingly, they present
a great adjunct case
to Frank Kimbler's.

They possess a piece of a UFO.

We've seen some
remarkable evidence.

Video...

[man] Oh my God. Holy [bleep]

Photography...

Corroborated testimony...

-[woman] Oh wow.
Babe, I got it.
-[man 2] You got it?

Mass testimony,
expert testimony
and physical material itself.

I usually have
to dig for months

to see the fraction
of evidence
that I've seen here.

[rousing music playing]

-Hey, guys.
-Hey. How are you?

As much as we love
having you guys,
here it is. Last call.

Mmm, sounds like
we're being cut off.

-I think so.
-Yes, sir.

All right, my saucer's
parked outside.

-[laughs]
-Well, safe flying.

-All right.
-I say we call it a night.