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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,349 --> 00:00:06,267 [crickets chirping] [owl howling] 2 00:00:10,010 --> 00:00:13,056 [suspenseful music] 3 00:00:16,016 --> 00:00:18,582 [Daniel Prince] In July of 2017, 4 00:00:18,583 --> 00:00:21,977 avid outdoorsman Gary Hinge vanished 5 00:00:21,978 --> 00:00:24,849 into the high desert of Northeastern Nevada. 6 00:00:24,850 --> 00:00:27,113 Storms coming in. I gotta make this quick. 7 00:00:27,114 --> 00:00:30,159 [suspenseful music] [dogs barking] 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,988 [Daniel Prince] His disappearance became a bombshell 9 00:00:32,989 --> 00:00:36,210 that would shed light on a much larger mystery. 10 00:00:37,689 --> 00:00:39,690 Gary vanished while returning to the desert 11 00:00:39,691 --> 00:00:42,084 to document a mysterious structure 12 00:00:42,085 --> 00:00:45,348 that he found on a previous expedition. 13 00:00:45,349 --> 00:00:47,698 [Beverly Hinge] He said that the longer he stood 14 00:00:47,699 --> 00:00:51,659 and looked at it, the more spooked that he got, 15 00:00:51,660 --> 00:00:54,879 the feeling of dread, the sixth sense 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,882 that he needed to get out of there. 17 00:00:57,883 --> 00:00:59,101 [suspenseful music] 18 00:00:59,102 --> 00:01:00,755 [Daniel Prince] Since then, 19 00:01:00,756 --> 00:01:02,583 we've started connecting events 20 00:01:02,584 --> 00:01:06,195 that we believe may hold the clues to this puzzle. 21 00:01:06,196 --> 00:01:09,720 [suspenseful music] 22 00:01:09,721 --> 00:01:13,637 The mysterious death of a woman named Minerva Sound. 23 00:01:13,638 --> 00:01:16,685 [suspenseful music] 24 00:01:18,252 --> 00:01:21,777 And the disappearance of Ameliana Brasher. 25 00:01:27,609 --> 00:01:29,218 [suspenseful music] 26 00:01:29,219 --> 00:01:30,698 [Daniel Prince] In the time 27 00:01:30,699 --> 00:01:33,004 since we first shared Gary's story, 28 00:01:33,005 --> 00:01:36,051 countless people have come from all over the world 29 00:01:36,052 --> 00:01:39,925 to search for the elusive cabin seen in his final video. 30 00:01:41,666 --> 00:01:45,235 So far, none of them have turned up anything useful. 31 00:01:46,889 --> 00:01:51,633 Until a man named Oscar Mendoza came armed with a theory 32 00:01:52,721 --> 00:01:54,026 that no one else had proposed. 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,899 Gary had secrets. 34 00:01:57,900 --> 00:02:00,990 [suspenseful music] 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:08,074 Ask free legal questions on ClearwayLaw.com 36 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,972 [suspenseful music] 37 00:02:37,418 --> 00:02:39,246 [suspenseful music] 38 00:02:41,944 --> 00:02:44,338 [suspenseful music] 39 00:02:48,907 --> 00:02:50,386 [thunder rumbling] [suspenseful music] 40 00:02:50,387 --> 00:02:54,261 [suspenseful music continues] 41 00:03:04,445 --> 00:03:08,099 Oscar began his journey on his own social media. 42 00:03:08,100 --> 00:03:10,755 [car creaking] 43 00:03:13,802 --> 00:03:15,672 [air whooshing] 44 00:03:15,673 --> 00:03:19,721 He left Mexico and arrived in Nevada June 1st, 2022. 45 00:03:22,027 --> 00:03:26,379 And he went there to do what we all have been trying to do, 46 00:03:26,380 --> 00:03:28,686 and that's find answers. 47 00:03:30,297 --> 00:03:32,907 Once he arrived in Northeastern Nevada, 48 00:03:32,908 --> 00:03:36,563 he checked into the Rush Canyon Motel 49 00:03:36,564 --> 00:03:40,393 where he basically treated it as his home base. 50 00:03:40,394 --> 00:03:42,960 He would recharge batteries. He would shower. 51 00:03:42,961 --> 00:03:45,136 He would dump his footage. 52 00:03:45,137 --> 00:03:48,052 Four weeks later, he vanished. 53 00:03:48,053 --> 00:03:50,882 [fire whooshing] 54 00:03:53,058 --> 00:03:56,235 [suspenseful music] 55 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:59,542 Him making this trip at this specific time 56 00:03:59,543 --> 00:04:01,022 was not a coincidence. 57 00:04:01,023 --> 00:04:04,069 [suspenseful music] 58 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,290 A fire was raging on the western part of the state. 59 00:04:08,291 --> 00:04:12,816 So every available state employee, 60 00:04:12,817 --> 00:04:17,256 county employee went over to try and help battle this fire. 61 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:20,433 Most of them, however, were on fire watch 62 00:04:20,434 --> 00:04:22,826 to make sure that the fire didn't spread 63 00:04:22,827 --> 00:04:25,046 to the eastern part of the state. 64 00:04:25,047 --> 00:04:27,222 [suspenseful music] 65 00:04:27,223 --> 00:04:29,746 Oscar saw this as the perfect opportunity 66 00:04:29,747 --> 00:04:32,053 to be able to come and explore what happened to Gary, 67 00:04:32,054 --> 00:04:35,665 because the rangers wouldn't be there to stand in his way. 68 00:04:35,666 --> 00:04:37,754 You know, this little community was so sick 69 00:04:37,755 --> 00:04:39,930 and tired of YouTubers and influencers 70 00:04:39,931 --> 00:04:42,150 coming and invading their space. 71 00:04:42,151 --> 00:04:44,283 And now, that everybody was off, 72 00:04:44,284 --> 00:04:47,982 you know, fighting this fire that was happening, 73 00:04:47,983 --> 00:04:50,027 he just jumped at the chance. 74 00:04:50,028 --> 00:04:53,075 [suspenseful music] 75 00:04:55,033 --> 00:04:57,470 It was a summer of the most bizarre weather 76 00:04:57,471 --> 00:04:59,733 because of these fires that were occurring 77 00:04:59,734 --> 00:05:01,387 on the western part of the state. 78 00:05:01,388 --> 00:05:03,693 Even though they were hundreds of miles away, 79 00:05:03,694 --> 00:05:07,131 they would sometimes create this like unworldly haze. 80 00:05:07,132 --> 00:05:10,222 [suspenseful music] 81 00:05:14,009 --> 00:05:17,141 And then other days, it would be blue skies 82 00:05:17,142 --> 00:05:18,578 but incredibly windy. 83 00:05:18,579 --> 00:05:20,536 [suspenseful music] 84 00:05:20,537 --> 00:05:22,712 It was the perfect storm 85 00:05:22,713 --> 00:05:25,715 and the perfect formula for fires, 86 00:05:25,716 --> 00:05:27,935 which is why everyone was so concerned 87 00:05:27,936 --> 00:05:29,415 and on fire watch. 88 00:05:29,416 --> 00:05:34,421 [horn blaring] [suspenseful music] 89 00:05:35,944 --> 00:05:38,728 Oscar claimed that he had insider information. 90 00:05:38,729 --> 00:05:41,992 And so after a bit of digging, we discovered 91 00:05:41,993 --> 00:05:46,823 that he has a cousin who lives right there in Eagle County. 92 00:05:46,824 --> 00:05:49,523 Oscar had come by a couple times in the past. 93 00:05:50,828 --> 00:05:54,048 I wasn't able to spend time with him, 94 00:05:54,049 --> 00:05:57,486 but he went out and he made a couple friends 95 00:05:57,487 --> 00:05:58,967 with the locals so. 96 00:06:00,011 --> 00:06:01,012 Oscar met [beep]. 97 00:06:02,536 --> 00:06:04,711 He used to work, you know, for the police. 98 00:06:04,712 --> 00:06:07,931 And when they were talking, 99 00:06:07,932 --> 00:06:11,892 that's how he found out about Gary and the two ladies. 100 00:06:11,893 --> 00:06:13,850 [suspenseful music] 101 00:06:13,851 --> 00:06:15,765 He became obsessed with it. 102 00:06:15,766 --> 00:06:17,463 Because of this insider friendship, 103 00:06:17,464 --> 00:06:19,943 he learned that law enforcement 104 00:06:19,944 --> 00:06:21,902 and professional hunting guides 105 00:06:21,903 --> 00:06:25,253 now believed that Gary went missing 106 00:06:25,254 --> 00:06:28,212 in a place called Copper Creek Range. 107 00:06:28,213 --> 00:06:30,868 [gentle music] 108 00:06:32,827 --> 00:06:35,219 This is what we thought his secret information 109 00:06:35,220 --> 00:06:36,220 may have been. 110 00:06:36,221 --> 00:06:37,570 [suspenseful music] 111 00:06:37,571 --> 00:06:39,702 We had a contingency. 112 00:06:39,703 --> 00:06:42,575 It was, the plan was really for him 113 00:06:42,576 --> 00:06:44,839 to check in with me every day 114 00:06:46,275 --> 00:06:47,710 through a satellite phone that we had. 115 00:06:47,711 --> 00:06:49,320 The day that Oscar went missing, 116 00:06:49,321 --> 00:06:52,280 his plan was to camp at the top of this mountain 117 00:06:52,281 --> 00:06:56,371 that the locals call Spook Mountain. 118 00:06:56,372 --> 00:06:58,155 He was just supposed to camp there one night, 119 00:06:58,156 --> 00:07:00,506 and then he was gonna go back into town, 120 00:07:00,507 --> 00:07:02,856 visit with his cousin Manny for a few days 121 00:07:02,857 --> 00:07:04,901 before heading back to Mexico. 122 00:07:04,902 --> 00:07:06,947 When I first knew something was wrong, 123 00:07:06,948 --> 00:07:11,517 it was, you know, when he had called me the day before 124 00:07:11,518 --> 00:07:14,216 and let me know that he had gone into his camp, 125 00:07:15,696 --> 00:07:17,566 he was supposed to check in with me the next day, 126 00:07:17,567 --> 00:07:21,483 but he, he didn't. 127 00:07:21,484 --> 00:07:23,659 [horn blaring] [suspenseful music] 128 00:07:23,660 --> 00:07:26,837 I tried reaching him multiple times. 129 00:07:28,143 --> 00:07:30,187 He didn't respond. 130 00:07:30,188 --> 00:07:33,626 I knew right where to go because of the satellite phone. 131 00:07:33,627 --> 00:07:36,456 [brooding music] 132 00:07:50,208 --> 00:07:54,385 Manny arrives and there is no sign of Oscar. 133 00:07:54,386 --> 00:07:56,039 And not just Oscar, 134 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,824 I mean there's no sign that Oscar even camped. 135 00:07:57,825 --> 00:08:00,304 There's no tent. There's no camping gear. 136 00:08:00,305 --> 00:08:01,741 There's nothing. 137 00:08:01,742 --> 00:08:05,267 It's as if Oscar never even arrived. 138 00:08:06,529 --> 00:08:08,617 [steps crunching] 139 00:08:08,618 --> 00:08:10,359 His phone says he's right here. 140 00:08:13,144 --> 00:08:14,667 I looked and... 141 00:08:14,668 --> 00:08:17,540 [steps crunching] 142 00:08:18,976 --> 00:08:21,674 There was a phone, satellite phone 143 00:08:21,675 --> 00:08:25,286 with the bright green tag on it. 144 00:08:25,287 --> 00:08:27,723 [steps crunching] 145 00:08:27,724 --> 00:08:30,247 The phone was buried. 146 00:08:30,248 --> 00:08:32,467 Manny was very reluctant to call the police 147 00:08:32,468 --> 00:08:37,298 because so many people, as we know, have come to this town, 148 00:08:37,299 --> 00:08:40,431 you know, wanting to figure out what happened to Gary, 149 00:08:40,432 --> 00:08:44,218 and then they end up needing rescuing themselves. 150 00:08:44,219 --> 00:08:47,308 And this is basically just the last thing 151 00:08:47,309 --> 00:08:48,788 that this town needs right now. 152 00:08:48,789 --> 00:08:50,659 [suspenseful music] 153 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:55,665 So, I left and went directly to his motel. 154 00:08:56,536 --> 00:08:57,927 [suspenseful music] 155 00:08:57,928 --> 00:09:00,147 You know, my truck isn't there. 156 00:09:00,148 --> 00:09:03,454 And so, I went to the front desk 157 00:09:03,455 --> 00:09:07,372 and asked the lady if I could go check his room. 158 00:09:08,330 --> 00:09:09,636 She looked up at me 159 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:16,816 with this weird look on her face. 160 00:09:16,817 --> 00:09:17,861 She said, 161 00:09:19,820 --> 00:09:23,170 "Honey, he checked out a week ago." 162 00:09:23,171 --> 00:09:25,956 [brooding music] 163 00:09:34,008 --> 00:09:36,576 I was, I was stunned. 164 00:09:38,534 --> 00:09:40,101 What the hell is going on here? 165 00:09:42,059 --> 00:09:44,583 And then I was pissed. 166 00:09:44,584 --> 00:09:48,325 You know, he had my truck. We had a deal. 167 00:09:48,326 --> 00:09:50,545 This is when Manny goes to the police 168 00:09:50,546 --> 00:09:54,114 and the police refuse to do anything, 169 00:09:54,115 --> 00:09:57,770 because Oscar willingly checked out of his hotel. 170 00:09:57,771 --> 00:10:01,164 I mean, he's a grown man and he can do what he wants. 171 00:10:01,165 --> 00:10:02,905 This is when he turns 172 00:10:02,906 --> 00:10:05,342 to a well-known private investigator in the area, 173 00:10:05,343 --> 00:10:08,390 who you might remember from Gary's story. 174 00:10:10,044 --> 00:10:13,873 I wanted to figure out what would be the one thing 175 00:10:13,874 --> 00:10:17,703 that Oscar would keep from his cousin and why. 176 00:10:17,704 --> 00:10:19,313 As this was all unfolding, 177 00:10:19,314 --> 00:10:22,533 we find out that Oscar tried to reach out 178 00:10:22,534 --> 00:10:24,710 and visit Beverly Hinge. 179 00:10:24,711 --> 00:10:26,494 Now, for those of you who don't know, 180 00:10:26,495 --> 00:10:29,453 Beverly Hinge is Gary Hinge's sister. 181 00:10:29,454 --> 00:10:32,152 And Gary Hinge is the reason 182 00:10:32,153 --> 00:10:34,284 we're all discussing this story. 183 00:10:34,285 --> 00:10:36,460 I mean, he's the reason this all started. 184 00:10:36,461 --> 00:10:40,595 And Beverly was in no shape to be meeting with anyone. 185 00:10:40,596 --> 00:10:42,205 Since Gary's disappearance, 186 00:10:42,206 --> 00:10:43,946 Beverly has been getting messages 187 00:10:43,947 --> 00:10:46,383 from people all over the world 188 00:10:46,384 --> 00:10:48,909 telling her they know where Gary's remains are. 189 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:53,216 I keep telling her, "These people don't know. 190 00:10:53,217 --> 00:10:55,044 They're strangers." 191 00:10:55,045 --> 00:10:58,048 [suspenseful music] 192 00:10:59,093 --> 00:11:00,920 There's one person 193 00:11:00,921 --> 00:11:04,620 that has been relentlessly messaging her 194 00:11:06,274 --> 00:11:07,362 over and over. 195 00:11:08,755 --> 00:11:10,538 The cops can't figure out who it is. 196 00:11:10,539 --> 00:11:15,022 I don't know who it is, but they are relentless. 197 00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:17,066 And 198 00:11:20,375 --> 00:11:22,419 Beverly went out looking for her brother 199 00:11:22,420 --> 00:11:23,812 in the high desert. 200 00:11:23,813 --> 00:11:26,728 [suspenseful music] 201 00:11:26,729 --> 00:11:28,557 She got lost herself 202 00:11:30,211 --> 00:11:34,041 and by the time she was rescued, she was dehydrated. 203 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:38,827 She has been suffering from multiple organ failures, 204 00:11:38,828 --> 00:11:41,048 and she had to be hospitalized. 205 00:11:42,049 --> 00:11:43,484 What Beverly endured 206 00:11:43,485 --> 00:11:45,705 after the disappearance of her brother, 207 00:11:47,141 --> 00:11:49,709 no one should ever have to go through. 208 00:11:53,234 --> 00:11:55,584 After we did the first interview, 209 00:11:57,064 --> 00:11:58,804 I thought people would call in 210 00:11:58,805 --> 00:12:02,721 and offer information, tips, 211 00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:07,378 anything that would help with this going on with Gary. 212 00:12:11,818 --> 00:12:15,908 I was shocked, horrified 213 00:12:15,909 --> 00:12:17,737 when people started 214 00:12:19,564 --> 00:12:22,349 giving me backlash and blaming me 215 00:12:22,350 --> 00:12:26,702 and, and just the, the bullying it, 216 00:12:28,138 --> 00:12:30,313 I just never dreamed that would happen. 217 00:12:30,314 --> 00:12:35,015 And you know, Gary being such a, [sniffs] 218 00:12:36,712 --> 00:12:40,236 a soft soul having to go through all that. 219 00:12:40,237 --> 00:12:43,284 [suspenseful music] 220 00:12:47,897 --> 00:12:50,029 [Daniel Prince] If you could say something to the people 221 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:53,641 that put you in this position, 222 00:12:53,642 --> 00:12:55,165 what would you say to them? 223 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,864 That- 224 00:12:58,865 --> 00:12:59,779 [Daniel Prince] Why don't you look right into this 225 00:12:59,780 --> 00:13:01,562 camera. - Okay. 226 00:13:01,563 --> 00:13:03,563 [Daniel Prince] And tell, speak directly to them. 227 00:13:05,654 --> 00:13:06,786 Those who 228 00:13:09,049 --> 00:13:10,746 have social media, 229 00:13:12,226 --> 00:13:14,184 a lot of them, it's their only company. 230 00:13:15,316 --> 00:13:17,796 And please, please have a heart 231 00:13:17,797 --> 00:13:21,538 and think about what you're saying to them. 232 00:13:21,539 --> 00:13:24,454 You don't know what frame of mind they're in. 233 00:13:24,455 --> 00:13:27,110 [gentle music] 234 00:13:35,771 --> 00:13:37,598 [Beverly Hinge sighing] [gentle music] 235 00:13:37,599 --> 00:13:38,947 To not be provoked. 236 00:13:38,948 --> 00:13:41,603 [gentle music] 237 00:13:44,127 --> 00:13:46,868 It broke me then. 238 00:13:46,869 --> 00:13:48,522 It, it broke me then. 239 00:13:48,523 --> 00:13:49,566 I mean, it crippled me. 240 00:13:49,567 --> 00:13:52,265 [gentle music] 241 00:13:52,266 --> 00:13:54,441 Um, but I'm okay. 242 00:13:54,442 --> 00:13:56,399 [gentle music] 243 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,098 Beverly has been called every name in the book 244 00:13:59,099 --> 00:14:01,841 by complete strangers from all over the world, 245 00:14:03,668 --> 00:14:06,148 and these people don't even know her. 246 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:09,543 [suspenseful music] 247 00:14:09,544 --> 00:14:14,592 As somebody who's gotten to know her over the years, 248 00:14:16,116 --> 00:14:19,553 I can tell you that she loved her brother 249 00:14:19,554 --> 00:14:23,078 and she would've done anything, anything 250 00:14:23,079 --> 00:14:24,819 to move mountains for him. 251 00:14:24,820 --> 00:14:27,604 Right away, Bill and Manny both decide 252 00:14:27,605 --> 00:14:31,260 to post Oscar's photo on social media, 253 00:14:31,261 --> 00:14:33,088 different Facebook groups, et cetera, 254 00:14:33,089 --> 00:14:35,221 because it is the quickest way, you know, 255 00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:38,615 to get the word out that someone is missing. 256 00:14:38,616 --> 00:14:42,271 And immediately, they hear from Dolly Broadbent, 257 00:14:42,272 --> 00:14:45,710 who we interviewed for the Minerva story. 258 00:15:02,814 --> 00:15:05,991 That day, I had to go grocery shopping 259 00:15:05,992 --> 00:15:09,255 and just as I was coming up to the gates, 260 00:15:09,256 --> 00:15:10,952 that's when I met Oscar. 261 00:15:10,953 --> 00:15:14,825 He had been emailing me, you know, 262 00:15:14,826 --> 00:15:17,960 but I really didn't take it serious that he was gonna come. 263 00:15:19,005 --> 00:15:20,484 So, I just kind of ignored him. 264 00:15:21,659 --> 00:15:23,270 He was really determined 265 00:15:24,271 --> 00:15:26,489 to come see Majesty Ranch. 266 00:15:26,490 --> 00:15:28,056 I had to lie to him 267 00:15:28,057 --> 00:15:29,928 and tell him I was going to Salt Lake City. 268 00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:31,712 Oscar got in contact with Dolly 269 00:15:31,713 --> 00:15:35,803 through different online forums, basically. 270 00:15:35,804 --> 00:15:38,153 After he learned about Gary's disappearance 271 00:15:38,154 --> 00:15:41,026 and became just obsessed with the story. 272 00:15:41,027 --> 00:15:45,247 He joined all these different groups and different forums. 273 00:15:45,248 --> 00:15:50,253 And in one of them, Dolly posted a bunch 274 00:15:51,733 --> 00:15:53,386 and she posted a lot of different stories 275 00:15:53,387 --> 00:15:56,651 that took place on her property, Majesty Ranch. 276 00:15:57,521 --> 00:15:59,044 When I was growing up, 277 00:15:59,045 --> 00:16:00,741 I knew there was something going on. 278 00:16:00,742 --> 00:16:04,005 [suspenseful music] 279 00:16:04,006 --> 00:16:08,097 And my parents did a really, really good job 280 00:16:09,316 --> 00:16:12,405 in sheltering my sister and I. 281 00:16:12,406 --> 00:16:14,276 But there were some things 282 00:16:14,277 --> 00:16:16,104 that they just couldn't hide from us. 283 00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:20,152 [suspenseful music] [thunder rumbling] 284 00:16:20,153 --> 00:16:24,504 A lot of times before anything would happen, 285 00:16:24,505 --> 00:16:26,549 we would hear the sound 286 00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:31,599 and it was like a tink, tink, tink. 287 00:16:33,209 --> 00:16:35,210 And we couldn't tell where it was coming from. 288 00:16:35,211 --> 00:16:36,907 You know, one minute, it would sound like it was coming from 289 00:16:36,908 --> 00:16:39,562 over there or over there. 290 00:16:39,563 --> 00:16:42,783 But then when my parents and my uncle heard, 291 00:16:42,784 --> 00:16:45,177 my dad and my uncle came 292 00:16:45,178 --> 00:16:47,962 and rushed my sister and I in the house. 293 00:16:47,963 --> 00:16:51,357 And they told us to stay in the room and lock the door 294 00:16:51,358 --> 00:16:55,404 and we wouldn't be able to come out until the next day. 295 00:16:55,405 --> 00:16:58,451 [suspenseful music] [thunder rumbling] 296 00:16:58,452 --> 00:17:03,152 The one thing that to this day that really frightens me 297 00:17:04,197 --> 00:17:06,937 is my sister and I were woken up 298 00:17:06,938 --> 00:17:09,028 to the sound outside of our window. 299 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:16,035 It sounded like crying, but it was a man's voice 300 00:17:17,123 --> 00:17:20,951 and it was deep and agonizing. 301 00:17:20,952 --> 00:17:24,433 We ran to my parent's room 302 00:17:24,434 --> 00:17:27,523 and my dad went running outside with his shotgun. 303 00:17:27,524 --> 00:17:30,918 [suspenseful music] 304 00:17:30,919 --> 00:17:35,141 When he came in, we could tell he had seen something. 305 00:17:37,012 --> 00:17:38,840 We were homeschooled, 306 00:17:40,494 --> 00:17:42,626 but when we'd go into town, 307 00:17:46,152 --> 00:17:51,157 we could just tell what people were thinking of us. 308 00:17:52,810 --> 00:17:55,856 My dad was really affected by all this, you know, 309 00:17:55,857 --> 00:17:58,380 and by the way, we all got treated 310 00:17:58,381 --> 00:18:01,688 and nobody believed him or believed us. 311 00:18:01,689 --> 00:18:04,953 And so, he started documenting things. 312 00:18:05,910 --> 00:18:07,824 He had a box 313 00:18:07,825 --> 00:18:11,872 and it was full of everything that he had collected. 314 00:18:11,873 --> 00:18:14,309 So, the box came up missing 315 00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:18,008 and he used to hide it in the barn, 316 00:18:18,009 --> 00:18:21,709 and the county officials came to do an inspection. 317 00:18:23,537 --> 00:18:26,234 He was convinced that the county officials had stolen it 318 00:18:26,235 --> 00:18:27,541 during the inspection. 319 00:18:29,673 --> 00:18:30,892 In Eagle County, 320 00:18:32,372 --> 00:18:34,895 they really depend on tourists 321 00:18:34,896 --> 00:18:38,552 and outdoor activities, hunting, fishing. 322 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,903 So I don't think they really wanna advertise 323 00:18:42,904 --> 00:18:45,775 that people are disappearing out here. 324 00:18:45,776 --> 00:18:47,777 [suspenseful music] 325 00:18:47,778 --> 00:18:50,389 [Gal Roberts] Not long after Dolly called to inform them 326 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:53,043 that Oscar had shown up at her ranch, 327 00:18:53,044 --> 00:18:55,263 they received a very interesting phone call 328 00:18:55,264 --> 00:18:58,484 from a man named Jonathon Monast. 329 00:18:58,485 --> 00:19:02,879 Jonathon called because he wanted to tell me 330 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,710 that he had encountered something out in the desert. 331 00:19:07,755 --> 00:19:09,843 He didn't know if it was Oscar, 332 00:19:09,844 --> 00:19:12,455 but he thought it was important. 333 00:19:13,978 --> 00:19:17,068 I thought he was telling the truth, definitely. 334 00:19:18,809 --> 00:19:22,161 And he was definitely spooked. 335 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:26,208 [crickets chirping] 336 00:19:27,818 --> 00:19:30,820 I like riding out there. It's a nice quiet area. 337 00:19:30,821 --> 00:19:35,129 [engine rumbling] [air whooshing] 338 00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:39,002 It's just a, I guess better word, 339 00:19:39,003 --> 00:19:40,917 desolate area to ride. 340 00:19:40,918 --> 00:19:45,095 [motor engine revving] [suspenseful music] 341 00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:47,228 I went out that far that night 342 00:19:47,229 --> 00:19:49,926 because I needed to clear my head 343 00:19:49,927 --> 00:19:54,801 and really, there's no better way than me and my bike. 344 00:19:54,802 --> 00:19:59,850 [engine rumbling] [air whooshing] 345 00:20:01,112 --> 00:20:02,896 So, I was going slower than normal 346 00:20:02,897 --> 00:20:05,377 because the road work, you know. 347 00:20:05,378 --> 00:20:07,293 I saw a couple of signs coming up. 348 00:20:11,427 --> 00:20:15,387 And then as I came on it, you know, the road was all dug out 349 00:20:15,388 --> 00:20:19,086 and it was just loose gravel patches dropped down. 350 00:20:19,087 --> 00:20:24,135 [engine rumbling] [air whooshing] 351 00:20:27,008 --> 00:20:28,965 Almost laid the bike down. 352 00:20:28,966 --> 00:20:30,184 I got through there. 353 00:20:30,185 --> 00:20:32,142 Just kept going slow, 354 00:20:32,143 --> 00:20:33,970 didn't know if there was gonna be more road work coming. 355 00:20:33,971 --> 00:20:37,322 [engine rumbling] [air whooshing] 356 00:20:37,323 --> 00:20:38,888 At the end of the road work, 357 00:20:38,889 --> 00:20:41,543 right after I had just gotten past it, 358 00:20:41,544 --> 00:20:45,331 I went to go open the bike back up and pick my speed way up 359 00:20:46,636 --> 00:20:49,159 and that's, that's when I saw it. 360 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:54,209 [engine rumbling] [air whooshing] 361 00:20:56,603 --> 00:20:58,343 It looked like there was a man, 362 00:20:58,344 --> 00:21:01,781 like a crumpled up man, on the side of the road. 363 00:21:01,782 --> 00:21:04,828 And, you know, they were, it was moving around. 364 00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:10,616 My first thought in passing it 365 00:21:10,617 --> 00:21:15,534 was that there must be an accident or something. 366 00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:20,540 But then, I, I quickly realized that there wasn't any cars, 367 00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:23,019 there was nothing. 368 00:21:23,020 --> 00:21:25,761 So, I thought maybe it was another motorcyclist 369 00:21:25,762 --> 00:21:29,809 that, you know, his bike had gone possibly off the road 370 00:21:29,810 --> 00:21:33,160 into the ditch, didn't really know exactly 371 00:21:33,161 --> 00:21:34,901 what to think about it. 372 00:21:34,902 --> 00:21:39,907 [engine rumbling] [air whooshing] 373 00:21:41,387 --> 00:21:42,910 My headlights are lighting up the area. 374 00:21:45,826 --> 00:21:47,348 He was gone. 375 00:21:47,349 --> 00:21:50,090 [brooding music] 376 00:21:50,091 --> 00:21:55,139 [engine rumbling] [air whooshing] 377 00:21:58,534 --> 00:22:01,407 [steps crunching] 378 00:22:05,106 --> 00:22:08,935 And I start hearing what sounds like footsteps. 379 00:22:08,936 --> 00:22:13,941 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping] 380 00:22:27,041 --> 00:22:28,650 Hello. 381 00:22:28,651 --> 00:22:33,090 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping] 382 00:22:34,004 --> 00:22:35,309 Anyone out there? 383 00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:37,877 [crickets chirping] 384 00:22:37,878 --> 00:22:41,663 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping continues] 385 00:22:41,664 --> 00:22:46,581 I called out a few times trying to get anyone's attention. 386 00:22:46,582 --> 00:22:49,629 [crickets chirping] 387 00:22:51,805 --> 00:22:53,632 [Speaker] Hello. 388 00:22:53,633 --> 00:22:56,636 [crickets chirping] 389 00:23:08,952 --> 00:23:11,911 At that point, I decided to start walking up the hill. 390 00:23:11,912 --> 00:23:14,130 'cause I was thinking maybe they've got a concussion 391 00:23:14,131 --> 00:23:17,612 or, you know, something else is wrong. 392 00:23:17,613 --> 00:23:19,614 [crickets chirping] 393 00:23:19,615 --> 00:23:22,225 I look up the hill a little ways, 394 00:23:22,226 --> 00:23:24,227 kind of in that direction, 395 00:23:24,228 --> 00:23:27,317 and there's just this massive cave on the side of the hill. 396 00:23:27,318 --> 00:23:32,367 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping] 397 00:24:03,354 --> 00:24:06,618 [owl howling] [crickets chirping continues] 398 00:24:06,619 --> 00:24:09,403 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping continues] 399 00:24:09,404 --> 00:24:11,754 That's when I saw him again. 400 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:16,106 [brooding music] 401 00:24:25,942 --> 00:24:28,989 And as he went into the cave, 402 00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,992 it, there's, I can't really describe it, 403 00:24:32,993 --> 00:24:36,909 but there was just something really, really off about him. 404 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:39,695 [brooding music] 405 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:56,103 It definitely creeped me out, everything about it. 406 00:24:57,147 --> 00:25:02,109 But I always carry a gun with me 407 00:25:03,589 --> 00:25:06,460 and so, I went to go check it out still, 408 00:25:06,461 --> 00:25:11,510 just in case it was someone that needed help. 409 00:25:12,989 --> 00:25:13,947 [suspenseful music] [crickets chirping] 410 00:25:13,948 --> 00:25:15,556 Hello? 411 00:25:15,557 --> 00:25:20,082 [suspenseful music] [crickets chirping] 412 00:25:20,083 --> 00:25:25,045 [suspenseful music continues] [steps crunching] 413 00:25:40,234 --> 00:25:45,282 [suspenseful music continues] [crickets chirping] 414 00:25:57,686 --> 00:26:02,691 [suspenseful music continues] [steps crunching] 415 00:26:15,051 --> 00:26:20,056 [suspenseful music continues] [crickets chirping] 416 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:27,193 You know, from the road, it looked like a pretty big cave, 417 00:26:27,194 --> 00:26:30,718 but when you get up to it, it's actually really shallow 418 00:26:30,719 --> 00:26:35,244 and, you know, I could see the whole thing, all of it. 419 00:26:35,245 --> 00:26:38,030 There's nowhere he could have gone. 420 00:26:38,031 --> 00:26:43,036 [suspenseful music continues] [crickets chirping] 421 00:26:48,302 --> 00:26:51,739 [suspenseful music continues] 422 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:54,395 [gentle music] 423 00:26:57,485 --> 00:27:00,618 Oscar was raised by our grandparents 424 00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:03,447 and, you know, 425 00:27:05,406 --> 00:27:06,799 my grandpa was his hero. 426 00:27:10,977 --> 00:27:15,328 Our grandpa's death, you know, pushed him over. 427 00:27:15,329 --> 00:27:18,331 [gentle music] 428 00:27:18,332 --> 00:27:20,072 He was already struggling. 429 00:27:20,073 --> 00:27:24,947 And then, you know, that seemed to snap something. 430 00:27:28,472 --> 00:27:32,519 Oscar's dad was never really in the picture. 431 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,610 And, you know, my aunt, 432 00:27:37,568 --> 00:27:41,572 she was a very troubled person. 433 00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:44,966 It took its toll on him. 434 00:27:44,967 --> 00:27:47,490 This trip meant a lot more to Oscar 435 00:27:47,491 --> 00:27:51,233 than just figuring out what had happened to Gary. 436 00:27:51,234 --> 00:27:53,018 This trip started 437 00:27:53,019 --> 00:27:57,152 because Oscar wanted to leave a life behind, 438 00:27:57,153 --> 00:28:00,895 and that life was basically a 10-year battle 439 00:28:00,896 --> 00:28:03,594 with depression and alcoholism. 440 00:28:05,031 --> 00:28:09,295 And he just wanted to start new, fresh. 441 00:28:09,296 --> 00:28:10,862 I mean, he dyed his hair. 442 00:28:10,863 --> 00:28:12,778 This was a whole new beginning for him. 443 00:28:14,518 --> 00:28:19,001 I was scared that he had done something to himself. 444 00:28:19,872 --> 00:28:22,439 [suspenseful music] 445 00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:28,663 First break was the cops put out an APB 446 00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:32,449 and it worked. 447 00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:37,932 They found Oscar's truck on a dirt road, 448 00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:39,629 outside of Copper flat. 449 00:28:39,630 --> 00:28:42,721 [suspenseful music] 450 00:28:44,331 --> 00:28:46,245 Copper Flat is a small, unincorporated town, 451 00:28:46,246 --> 00:28:49,161 which is about a hundred miles northeast of Cypress, 452 00:28:49,162 --> 00:28:51,641 which is where he was originally staying. 453 00:28:51,642 --> 00:28:53,600 He had rented a room there. 454 00:28:53,601 --> 00:28:55,081 I was sick to my stomach 455 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,128 when Bill was opening the door. 456 00:29:00,129 --> 00:29:03,392 I was afraid what we were going to find in there. 457 00:29:03,393 --> 00:29:06,308 It looked like he had just dropped off his stuff 458 00:29:06,309 --> 00:29:11,271 because his bed looked like it hadn't been slept in 459 00:29:12,576 --> 00:29:15,143 and he left his computer, his journals, 460 00:29:15,144 --> 00:29:18,017 and his hard drives. 461 00:29:19,496 --> 00:29:21,016 [Videographer] So beautiful out here, 462 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:29,767 but also what is out here? 463 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:32,509 [air whooshing] 464 00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:40,690 In these early videos, we see Oscar 465 00:29:40,691 --> 00:29:45,347 and he is just bursting at the seams with excitement. 466 00:29:45,348 --> 00:29:47,306 I mean, he is over the moon 467 00:29:47,307 --> 00:29:50,570 to be able to be here in Nevada doing his own investigation 468 00:29:50,571 --> 00:29:53,312 and you can clearly see that. 469 00:29:53,313 --> 00:29:55,141 Here's the proof, I'm here. 470 00:29:56,838 --> 00:29:58,796 Let's see what I find. 471 00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:03,365 [water glugging] [steps crunching] 472 00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:05,106 It's beautiful. 473 00:30:05,107 --> 00:30:08,153 Manny and I start going through Oscar stuff, 474 00:30:08,154 --> 00:30:10,329 just trying to find anything that we can 475 00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:12,940 to help us figure out where he is. 476 00:30:12,941 --> 00:30:15,160 I didn't wanna read his private stuff, 477 00:30:15,161 --> 00:30:19,468 but if you know, 478 00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:21,776 it was gonna help find him then. 479 00:30:23,256 --> 00:30:25,779 Manny didn't share any intimate details 480 00:30:25,780 --> 00:30:27,520 of Oscar's journal. 481 00:30:27,521 --> 00:30:30,349 He only shared, you know, the important stuff 482 00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:33,047 to help the investigation along. 483 00:30:33,048 --> 00:30:38,053 But he did share one entry that I found really, 484 00:30:39,489 --> 00:30:41,187 it was really, it was really touching. 485 00:30:42,884 --> 00:30:45,494 "What I'm doing out here might not be the safest thing 486 00:30:45,495 --> 00:30:50,282 I've ever done, but for the first time in a very long time, 487 00:30:50,283 --> 00:30:53,502 I remember what it feels like to live outside of the space 488 00:30:53,503 --> 00:30:54,503 in my head. 489 00:30:56,158 --> 00:30:59,987 This journey has saved me from being too far gone." 490 00:30:59,988 --> 00:31:02,860 [suspenseful music] [train chugging] 491 00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:04,123 Here she is, Number 81. 492 00:31:04,993 --> 00:31:05,993 Yeah. 493 00:31:06,647 --> 00:31:09,301 Wo! 494 00:31:09,302 --> 00:31:11,085 Yeah, baby. 495 00:31:11,086 --> 00:31:13,000 [train whistles] 496 00:31:13,001 --> 00:31:14,480 Yeah. 497 00:31:14,481 --> 00:31:19,529 [train whistles] [train chugging] 498 00:31:20,095 --> 00:31:21,095 Yeah. 499 00:31:22,141 --> 00:31:23,924 [Manny Martinez laughing] 500 00:31:23,925 --> 00:31:26,536 It was a huge relief to see him have fun. 501 00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:29,757 Ooh, it's like a musical instrument. 502 00:31:30,627 --> 00:31:33,674 [footsteps thumping] 503 00:31:37,025 --> 00:31:38,113 Hey. 504 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,683 I thought, "Okay, he's gonna be okay." 505 00:31:43,684 --> 00:31:45,772 His first few days, 506 00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:49,297 he just wanted to be in Gary's shoes. 507 00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:51,343 [Oscar breathing deeply] [air whooshing] 508 00:31:51,344 --> 00:31:52,735 [Oscar speaks in foreign language] 509 00:31:52,736 --> 00:31:55,303 Okay, nobody warned me 510 00:31:55,304 --> 00:31:57,566 about how cold it gets in the high desert, 511 00:31:57,567 --> 00:32:01,092 like it's pretty cold up here. 512 00:32:01,093 --> 00:32:03,442 But anyway, I, I don't care 513 00:32:03,443 --> 00:32:08,316 because so I was trying to find one place that Gary was at 514 00:32:08,317 --> 00:32:10,319 and I found another. 515 00:32:12,669 --> 00:32:15,758 [air whooshing] 516 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:17,673 This is just crazy. 517 00:32:17,674 --> 00:32:20,546 Like I, again, like so thankful to the people at Cypress, 518 00:32:20,547 --> 00:32:23,549 to everybody that pointed me in the right direction, 519 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:24,550 and I, 520 00:32:28,772 --> 00:32:30,730 I just feel like I'm really onto something here. 521 00:32:30,731 --> 00:32:34,255 Then, he camped in the Copper Creek Range area 522 00:32:34,256 --> 00:32:35,735 for a few days. 523 00:32:35,736 --> 00:32:38,652 [engine rumbling] 524 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,006 [crickets chirping] 525 00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:49,141 So, the structure right here 526 00:32:50,620 --> 00:32:55,059 used to actually be a bank back in 1872, 527 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:58,889 and it burned down in the crazy fire. 528 00:33:00,717 --> 00:33:02,544 No, I'm just fucking with you guys. I just made that up. 529 00:33:02,545 --> 00:33:05,157 I, I don't know, but looks like it'd be a safe thing. 530 00:33:07,724 --> 00:33:08,987 I don't know what it is. 531 00:33:10,423 --> 00:33:15,297 [crickets chirping] [steps crunching] 532 00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:18,778 The problem with finding the same cabin as Gary 533 00:33:18,779 --> 00:33:22,738 is that there's still so many of these structures 534 00:33:22,739 --> 00:33:24,958 from the Gold Rush days, 535 00:33:24,959 --> 00:33:30,008 and they're scary as fuck, I'm not gonna lie. 536 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,664 They always say that you have to hit rock bottom 537 00:33:35,665 --> 00:33:37,666 before you ask for help, 538 00:33:37,667 --> 00:33:40,582 and Oscar definitely hit rock bottom. 539 00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:42,758 He was in the hospital twice. 540 00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:44,978 One of those times, he almost died. 541 00:33:44,979 --> 00:33:48,286 And that was the catalyst that pushed him forward 542 00:33:48,287 --> 00:33:52,246 to crawling out of this hole of darkness that he was in. 543 00:33:52,247 --> 00:33:55,162 And really overcoming the stigma 544 00:33:55,163 --> 00:33:58,861 that, you know, men and mental health 545 00:33:58,862 --> 00:34:01,603 and men can't ask for help and change. 546 00:34:01,604 --> 00:34:05,912 And Oscar wanted to change. 547 00:34:05,913 --> 00:34:09,003 [suspenseful music] 548 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:47,259 Sheesh, still got it. 549 00:34:48,695 --> 00:34:51,044 It's been a while since I lit a fire. 550 00:34:51,045 --> 00:34:54,047 My grandfather was the first man 551 00:34:54,048 --> 00:34:54,962 that taught me how to light one, 552 00:34:54,963 --> 00:34:59,226 so shout out, 553 00:34:59,227 --> 00:35:00,576 shout out to you, grandpa. 554 00:35:02,448 --> 00:35:04,188 Anyway, I know I don't have that many followers out there, 555 00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:06,713 and honestly, I'm not doing this for followers. 556 00:35:09,237 --> 00:35:12,370 Without getting too much into it, 557 00:35:12,371 --> 00:35:14,459 the past 10 years have been fucking rough, man. 558 00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:17,636 Honestly, just a lot of pain, a lot of struggle. 559 00:35:17,637 --> 00:35:22,685 And I don't know, when I heard Gary's story 560 00:35:24,557 --> 00:35:26,797 and everything that's going on out here, I was just like, 561 00:35:27,647 --> 00:35:30,953 man, it just ignited my curiosity in the world again. 562 00:35:30,954 --> 00:35:32,564 You know what I mean? 563 00:35:32,565 --> 00:35:35,349 Like, I was just like, I felt fucking alive 564 00:35:35,350 --> 00:35:37,960 and it just, I knew 565 00:35:37,961 --> 00:35:42,444 I had to come chase this, you know? 566 00:35:44,098 --> 00:35:46,621 Honestly, I wanna find the cabin, 567 00:35:46,622 --> 00:35:49,711 but even if I don't, I just wanna find some sort of answers, 568 00:35:49,712 --> 00:35:53,281 like something, just anything. 569 00:35:57,938 --> 00:36:01,333 It, it's just, you know, 570 00:36:02,595 --> 00:36:05,640 I was drowning my feelings so much 571 00:36:05,641 --> 00:36:08,687 that I just was so numb to everything. 572 00:36:08,688 --> 00:36:13,344 Such a dark place, like honestly, I don't think anything 573 00:36:13,345 --> 00:36:14,955 could fucking scare me anymore. 574 00:36:16,435 --> 00:36:18,914 And maybe that's why you guys are asking, 575 00:36:18,915 --> 00:36:20,568 "Why is this fool doing this at night? 576 00:36:20,569 --> 00:36:22,918 Like, why is he out here right now?" 577 00:36:22,919 --> 00:36:26,140 Because I am not about to be asleep in a tent 578 00:36:27,968 --> 00:36:30,535 while, you know, who knows what could be going on out here. 579 00:36:30,536 --> 00:36:32,754 So, I'm staying awake. 580 00:36:32,755 --> 00:36:37,542 I'm up ready for any challenge that comes my way. 581 00:36:37,543 --> 00:36:41,502 And I'm just realizing 582 00:36:41,503 --> 00:36:46,073 that chasing this mystery 583 00:36:47,727 --> 00:36:49,945 is more exciting than anything I could ever find 584 00:36:49,946 --> 00:36:51,164 in a bottle. 585 00:36:51,165 --> 00:36:53,820 [gentle music] 586 00:36:58,955 --> 00:36:59,955 Woo! 587 00:37:01,610 --> 00:37:02,610 Woo! 588 00:37:04,091 --> 00:37:05,091 Hey! 589 00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:22,108 [Oscar laughing] 590 00:37:22,109 --> 00:37:24,024 But anyway, 591 00:37:26,287 --> 00:37:28,201 I'm out here. 592 00:37:28,202 --> 00:37:29,942 I'm grateful for everybody that's following my journey, 593 00:37:29,943 --> 00:37:32,771 and I hope we find answers. 594 00:37:32,772 --> 00:37:34,773 But in the meantime, I'm gonna be cooking a hot dog 595 00:37:34,774 --> 00:37:39,691 like a true American and hopefully, I don't burn myself 596 00:37:39,692 --> 00:37:41,607 or the forest doing it. 597 00:37:42,869 --> 00:37:44,304 All right, catch y'all soon. 598 00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:46,959 [gentle music] [steps crunching] 599 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,006 [suspenseful music] 600 00:37:53,009 --> 00:37:55,881 The Copper Creek Range was uneventful. 601 00:37:55,882 --> 00:37:59,406 So, Oscar came up with a plan to go to the last location 602 00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:01,278 where anything mysterious had happened 603 00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:03,584 and that was the Reinhold Mine, 604 00:38:03,585 --> 00:38:07,066 where Ameliana Brasher had disappeared. 605 00:38:07,067 --> 00:38:09,896 [brooding music] 606 00:38:19,558 --> 00:38:21,559 Not long after we released 607 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,214 our coverage of Minerva and Ameliana, 608 00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:30,264 law enforcement revealed some new and disturbing details 609 00:38:32,092 --> 00:38:34,528 that they had discovered in the body cam footage of the EMT 610 00:38:34,529 --> 00:38:37,750 that was searching the mining camp for Ameliana. 611 00:38:38,751 --> 00:38:41,536 [brooding music] 612 00:38:43,364 --> 00:38:47,019 After hearing what sounded like a woman screaming for help, 613 00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:48,673 he rushed into the mill. 614 00:38:48,674 --> 00:38:53,722 [brooding music] [steps crunching] 615 00:38:54,767 --> 00:38:56,007 That's when things took a turn. 616 00:38:56,986 --> 00:39:00,033 [crickets chirping] 617 00:39:14,917 --> 00:39:17,963 Everyone obviously saw the figure 618 00:39:17,964 --> 00:39:19,531 at the bottom of the stairs, 619 00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:29,149 but no one saw the figure standing in front of the EMT. 620 00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:34,589 [crickets chirping] [suspenseful music] 621 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:41,029 [flashlight thudding] 622 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:43,380 The second that the light leaves his hands. 623 00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:48,386 [crickets chirping] [suspenseful music] 624 00:39:52,041 --> 00:39:54,652 You see a figure standing there. 625 00:39:54,653 --> 00:39:57,699 [suspenseful music] 626 00:40:15,543 --> 00:40:20,242 And then as fast as it appears, 627 00:40:20,243 --> 00:40:21,592 it's gone. 628 00:40:21,593 --> 00:40:24,596 [suspenseful music] 629 00:40:31,167 --> 00:40:33,778 All right, well, I've been camping out here for a week 630 00:40:33,779 --> 00:40:37,172 and haven't seen anything 631 00:40:37,173 --> 00:40:39,698 except for a couple of elk and some deer. 632 00:40:41,526 --> 00:40:45,878 Saw those wild horses, but no mountain lions thankfully. 633 00:40:48,010 --> 00:40:52,449 I've really been thinking about heading back to Mexico 634 00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:56,236 and really not falling into the same, 635 00:41:02,938 --> 00:41:05,766 and not falling into the same type of trap, 636 00:41:05,767 --> 00:41:07,768 you know, bullshit that I was in. 637 00:41:07,769 --> 00:41:09,335 And you know, I realized 638 00:41:09,336 --> 00:41:14,384 that in my journey trying to find Gary, 639 00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:18,040 I kind of found myself and... 640 00:41:20,434 --> 00:41:23,350 [camera clanking] 641 00:41:24,612 --> 00:41:27,441 [birds chirping] 642 00:41:37,582 --> 00:41:40,498 [steps crunching] 643 00:41:46,286 --> 00:41:49,071 [birds chirping] 644 00:42:05,827 --> 00:42:10,832 [birds chirping continues] [steps crunching] 645 00:43:02,884 --> 00:43:05,757 [birds chirping continues] [steps crunching continues] 646 00:43:09,674 --> 00:43:14,069 [tink tink tink sound in distance] 647 00:43:31,783 --> 00:43:36,788 [birds chirping continues] [steps crunching continues] 648 00:43:41,314 --> 00:43:42,314 Hello. 649 00:43:48,756 --> 00:43:51,106 [birds chirping continues] [steps crunching continues] 650 00:44:04,946 --> 00:44:08,384 [tink tink tink sound in distance] 651 00:44:22,355 --> 00:44:27,403 [birds chirping continues] [steps crunching continues] 652 00:44:29,884 --> 00:44:32,146 [metal tink sound continues] [birds chirping continues] 653 00:44:32,147 --> 00:44:33,147 Hello. 654 00:44:34,802 --> 00:44:39,589 [birds chirping continues] [steps crunching continues] 655 00:44:57,564 --> 00:45:02,002 [metal tink sound continues] [birds chirping continues] 656 00:45:02,003 --> 00:45:07,008 [steps crunching] [birds chirping continues] 657 00:45:21,806 --> 00:45:26,811 [tink tink tink sound] [birds chirping continues] 658 00:45:28,377 --> 00:45:32,817 [steps crunching] [birds chirping continues] 659 00:45:45,830 --> 00:45:50,835 [tink tink tink sound] [birds chirping continues] 660 00:45:52,401 --> 00:45:55,840 [steps crunching] [birds chirping continues] 661 00:46:08,461 --> 00:46:13,378 [tink tink tink sound] [birds chirping continues] 662 00:46:13,379 --> 00:46:18,427 [steps crunching] [birds chirping continues] 663 00:46:35,967 --> 00:46:39,839 [tink tink tink sound] [birds chirping continues] 664 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,845 [steps crunching] [birds chirping continues] 665 00:47:00,252 --> 00:47:05,257 [tink tink tink sound] [birds chirping continues] 666 00:47:06,824 --> 00:47:11,698 [steps crunching] [birds chirping continues] 667 00:47:23,405 --> 00:47:27,931 [tink tink tink sound] [birds chirping continues] 668 00:47:27,932 --> 00:47:32,937 [steps crunching] [birds chirping continues] 669 00:47:36,157 --> 00:47:41,119 [metal clanking] [birds chirping continues] 670 00:47:42,685 --> 00:47:46,211 [steps crunching] [birds chirping continues] 671 00:48:16,981 --> 00:48:21,986 [steps crunching] [birds chirping continues] 672 00:48:43,311 --> 00:48:45,834 "There is a presence here. 673 00:48:45,835 --> 00:48:48,620 To deny that, that would be a lie. 674 00:48:48,621 --> 00:48:52,363 I can't take one step without the feeling of being watched." 675 00:48:52,364 --> 00:48:55,106 [birds chirping] 676 00:48:57,412 --> 00:49:00,415 I wanna see what do these cables lead to. 677 00:49:01,808 --> 00:49:03,504 See what I find. 678 00:49:03,505 --> 00:49:07,552 [steps crunching] [birds chirping continues] 679 00:49:07,553 --> 00:49:10,425 [blades whirring] 680 00:49:33,013 --> 00:49:37,713 I fucking made it. It's crazy up here. 681 00:49:39,846 --> 00:49:42,631 [birds chirping] 682 00:49:58,778 --> 00:50:00,345 You could see the lower mill. 683 00:50:04,653 --> 00:50:06,525 It's a cave or mine 684 00:50:07,787 --> 00:50:09,397 has someone try to cover up here. 685 00:50:11,573 --> 00:50:16,622 [steps crunching] [birds chirping] 686 00:50:30,723 --> 00:50:31,984 [button clicking] [birds chirping] 687 00:50:31,985 --> 00:50:33,334 I moved the branches. 688 00:50:47,131 --> 00:50:50,177 [suspenseful music] 689 00:51:06,846 --> 00:51:09,587 Definitely gonna camp out here tonight. 690 00:51:09,588 --> 00:51:11,589 I won't make it down before dark, 691 00:51:11,590 --> 00:51:15,942 so I'm gonna build a big fire and we'll see what happens. 692 00:51:17,813 --> 00:51:20,728 [steps crunching] [birds chirping] 693 00:51:20,729 --> 00:51:23,776 [crickets chirping] 694 00:51:46,886 --> 00:51:49,802 [steps crunching] 695 00:52:03,511 --> 00:52:06,384 [steps crunching] 696 00:52:17,569 --> 00:52:19,483 [brooding music] 697 00:52:19,484 --> 00:52:22,095 [upbeat music] 698 00:52:23,488 --> 00:52:25,445 As the hours went on, 699 00:52:25,446 --> 00:52:29,101 Bill and Manny were receiving phone calls and messages. 700 00:52:29,102 --> 00:52:31,321 But unfortunately, these people 701 00:52:31,322 --> 00:52:33,149 were just looking for information 702 00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:35,674 or trying to find a way to be involved. 703 00:52:38,024 --> 00:52:40,330 Manny was starting to lose hope, 704 00:52:40,331 --> 00:52:44,029 but then he turned to a page in Oscar's journal. 705 00:52:44,030 --> 00:52:47,424 Manny, all of a sudden he's going through the journal 706 00:52:47,425 --> 00:52:51,471 and he shoots up and he's, he turns to me and goes, 707 00:52:51,472 --> 00:52:52,907 "I think I found something." 708 00:52:52,908 --> 00:52:55,083 And I just say, "Well, what is it?" 709 00:52:55,084 --> 00:52:58,304 And he says, "What is FP?" 710 00:52:58,305 --> 00:53:01,265 [train screeching] 711 00:53:04,746 --> 00:53:07,487 "I'll never forget the first time I heard it, 712 00:53:07,488 --> 00:53:10,447 my laptop disconnected from my headphones 713 00:53:10,448 --> 00:53:13,319 and the sound was blaring from my speakers 714 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,061 or I never would've heard it." 715 00:53:16,367 --> 00:53:18,195 That sound could only mean one thing, 716 00:53:19,979 --> 00:53:21,936 Gary was on FP land. 717 00:53:21,937 --> 00:53:24,897 [train screeching] 718 00:53:28,857 --> 00:53:30,684 This could mean 719 00:53:30,685 --> 00:53:34,645 that Gary was on Freight Pacific land when he vanished. 720 00:53:34,646 --> 00:53:36,168 Yeah. 721 00:53:36,169 --> 00:53:37,778 You see that shit? 722 00:53:37,779 --> 00:53:39,563 I ran straight up to it's tits. 723 00:53:39,564 --> 00:53:41,086 I'm getting on this motherfucker. 724 00:53:41,087 --> 00:53:42,175 Yeah. 725 00:53:43,959 --> 00:53:46,657 Private Freight Pacific Land. 726 00:53:46,658 --> 00:53:49,181 Like we showed in our original coverage 727 00:53:49,182 --> 00:53:52,053 of Gary's disappearance, law enforcement 728 00:53:52,054 --> 00:53:55,101 then released some of his final footage. 729 00:53:56,624 --> 00:53:58,451 In one of his last videos, 730 00:53:58,452 --> 00:54:00,975 he addresses the camera and states 731 00:54:00,976 --> 00:54:04,805 that he is a day and a half in to his hike to the structure. 732 00:54:04,806 --> 00:54:09,375 This would put him far away from any town or highway 733 00:54:09,376 --> 00:54:11,334 in that part of the state. 734 00:54:11,335 --> 00:54:15,033 So essentially, he is already in the middle of nowhere. 735 00:54:15,034 --> 00:54:16,513 In the following video, 736 00:54:16,514 --> 00:54:18,690 he's walking and talking to the camera. 737 00:54:20,431 --> 00:54:22,471 [Gary Hinge] Got a whole nother mountain to climb. 738 00:54:23,477 --> 00:54:25,391 We'll see what it's like on the other side. 739 00:54:25,392 --> 00:54:29,439 I think I can at least get over it by night fall. 740 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,486 [suspenseful music] 741 00:54:34,706 --> 00:54:36,794 "It has been there all along." 742 00:54:36,795 --> 00:54:40,276 At the very end of this clip is when Oscar caught it. 743 00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:43,540 [Gary Hinge] I think I can at least get over it 744 00:54:43,541 --> 00:54:45,019 by nightfall 745 00:54:45,020 --> 00:54:47,936 [steps crunching] 746 00:54:49,808 --> 00:54:52,418 Right at the end of this video 747 00:54:52,419 --> 00:54:55,595 in the distance, a horn sounds. 748 00:54:55,596 --> 00:54:57,641 [Oscar Mendoza] See what it's like on the other side. 749 00:54:57,642 --> 00:55:01,601 Think I can at least get over it by nightfall. 750 00:55:01,602 --> 00:55:03,125 [steps crunching] 751 00:55:04,649 --> 00:55:06,128 [horn blares in distance] 752 00:55:07,869 --> 00:55:10,654 This makes Gary's decisions make a lot more sense. 753 00:55:10,655 --> 00:55:14,440 Police decided the best way, 754 00:55:14,441 --> 00:55:15,833 or the only thing they could think of 755 00:55:15,834 --> 00:55:18,836 was to maybe check his cell phone 756 00:55:18,837 --> 00:55:22,230 and his cell phone pings and watch tower. 757 00:55:22,231 --> 00:55:25,451 And it looked to be as he had turned his cell phone off 758 00:55:25,452 --> 00:55:28,149 shortly after leaving his home. 759 00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:30,717 Map Nevada, the company that Gary worked for, 760 00:55:30,718 --> 00:55:33,894 supplied and tracked all of his equipment. 761 00:55:33,895 --> 00:55:36,681 It's clear now why he turned everything off. 762 00:55:38,552 --> 00:55:39,771 He was trespassing. 763 00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:43,600 Getting back to Oscar, 764 00:55:43,601 --> 00:55:47,125 his truck was found just outside of Copper Flat, 765 00:55:47,126 --> 00:55:50,781 which is the last town that Freight Pacific passes through 766 00:55:50,782 --> 00:55:54,741 before entering their private expansive land. 767 00:55:54,742 --> 00:55:59,703 Once a train departs copper flat, it is in no man's land. 768 00:55:59,704 --> 00:56:02,489 [brooding music] 769 00:56:14,196 --> 00:56:16,850 From that point, everything came together really quickly. 770 00:56:16,851 --> 00:56:18,983 "I hate lying to Manny, 771 00:56:18,984 --> 00:56:22,769 but this is a last resort." 772 00:56:22,770 --> 00:56:24,771 So, we're a little bit outside of town. 773 00:56:24,772 --> 00:56:27,992 This here, I don't know if many of you know, 774 00:56:27,993 --> 00:56:31,038 is called a siding, S-I-D-I-N-G. 775 00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:32,562 Not sighting. 776 00:56:32,563 --> 00:56:35,608 We might have some sightings, but so, 777 00:56:35,609 --> 00:56:38,916 because there's only one track when two trains 778 00:56:38,917 --> 00:56:42,093 are coming at the same time, one pulls over to the siding 779 00:56:42,094 --> 00:56:44,008 and waits for the other one to pass. 780 00:56:44,009 --> 00:56:47,838 So, my plan is to wait here at night 781 00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:50,449 until there's two trains passing. 782 00:56:50,450 --> 00:56:52,495 There's no schedule, so it might wait for a while, 783 00:56:52,496 --> 00:56:54,932 but it'll be worth it. 784 00:56:54,933 --> 00:56:57,543 I'm gonna wait till there's a siding 785 00:56:57,544 --> 00:57:00,590 and jump on that train, which will take me out 786 00:57:00,591 --> 00:57:03,506 and deep into the desert, which I can't really get to. 787 00:57:03,507 --> 00:57:05,856 There are three things out there. 788 00:57:05,857 --> 00:57:06,857 Desert. 789 00:57:10,601 --> 00:57:11,906 Old mines. 790 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,344 And ghost towns. 791 00:57:16,345 --> 00:57:18,477 [brooding music] 792 00:57:18,478 --> 00:57:22,046 Most notably, the ghost town of Edna. 793 00:57:22,047 --> 00:57:25,615 [brooding music] 794 00:57:25,616 --> 00:57:30,358 In a joint deal, Freight Pacific and Mantis Mining Company 795 00:57:30,359 --> 00:57:33,405 purchased this land in the late 1980s 796 00:57:33,406 --> 00:57:36,104 and the rest of Edna became a ghost town. 797 00:57:39,847 --> 00:57:41,718 So then, the question became, 798 00:57:41,719 --> 00:57:45,025 if Gary was this far into his hike 799 00:57:45,026 --> 00:57:48,638 then he was well outside of any town or highway 800 00:57:48,639 --> 00:57:51,163 where a train would need to sound its horn. 801 00:57:53,644 --> 00:57:58,649 So, why are we hearing a train horn? 802 00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:00,520 [suspenseful music] 803 01:01:22,461 --> 01:01:24,288 As all these pieces are coming together, 804 01:01:24,289 --> 01:01:28,988 I get a phone call from the police and they tell me, 805 01:01:28,989 --> 01:01:33,601 "An FP engineer has discovered a body 806 01:01:33,602 --> 01:01:35,299 on the side of the tracks." 807 01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:38,085 [brooding music] 808 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,828 They used the word body. 809 01:01:42,829 --> 01:01:45,658 [brooding music] 810 01:01:46,964 --> 01:01:50,183 And it matches Oscar's description. 811 01:01:50,184 --> 01:01:52,926 [brooding music] 812 01:01:54,493 --> 01:01:57,409 [steps crunching] 813 01:01:59,498 --> 01:02:02,239 [Oscar Mendoza] Fuck yeah, it actually came. 814 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,981 It's about one in the morning now. 815 01:02:04,982 --> 01:02:08,549 I'm fucking nervous, 816 01:02:08,550 --> 01:02:11,031 but this is my only way to get there. 817 01:02:12,511 --> 01:02:15,557 I gotta be strategic. I can't be caught up here. 818 01:02:17,777 --> 01:02:21,954 All right, this looks like a good car here. 819 01:02:21,955 --> 01:02:27,004 [air whooshing] [Oscar grunting] 820 01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:30,094 Holy shit, okay. 821 01:02:31,138 --> 01:02:32,218 I can't get caught up here. 822 01:02:34,098 --> 01:02:36,100 Looks like the coast is clear. 823 01:02:46,675 --> 01:02:49,461 [train chugging] 824 01:02:59,906 --> 01:03:03,517 "I explore at night and sleep during most of the day. 825 01:03:03,518 --> 01:03:06,825 I figure it's the only way I have a chance 826 01:03:06,826 --> 01:03:09,132 of catching a glimpse behind the veil." 827 01:03:09,133 --> 01:03:11,918 [train chugging] 828 01:03:15,704 --> 01:03:18,663 "Obviously, whatever's happening out here 829 01:03:18,664 --> 01:03:20,797 is not confined to FP land. 830 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,931 Minerva and Ameliana on Highway 50 prove that, 831 01:03:25,932 --> 01:03:29,021 But I believe it would be a great place to start. 832 01:03:29,022 --> 01:03:31,808 [train chugging] 833 01:03:37,117 --> 01:03:40,163 "This is where Gary may have found the cabin." 834 01:03:40,164 --> 01:03:42,949 [brooding music] 835 01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:49,041 "This is where Gary may have given up the ghost. 836 01:03:49,042 --> 01:03:54,091 [train chugging] [brooding music] 837 01:03:55,744 --> 01:03:57,833 "I have to find Edna. 838 01:03:57,834 --> 01:03:59,356 I think I know what to do." 839 01:03:59,357 --> 01:04:04,405 [train chugging] [brooding music] 840 01:04:10,977 --> 01:04:13,937 [cricket chirping] 841 01:04:19,812 --> 01:04:24,817 [steps crunching] [cricket chirping continues] 842 01:04:49,624 --> 01:04:54,629 [steps crunching continues] [cricket chirping continues] 843 01:05:49,467 --> 01:05:54,472 [steps crunching continues] [cricket chirping continues] 844 01:06:19,584 --> 01:06:24,589 [steps crunching continues] [cricket chirping continues] 845 01:06:51,616 --> 01:06:52,790 [Oscar Mendoza] This is it. 846 01:06:52,791 --> 01:06:55,794 [cricket chirping] 847 01:07:05,934 --> 01:07:10,983 [steps crunching] [cricket chirping continues] 848 01:07:40,012 --> 01:07:43,711 [steps crunching continues] 849 01:08:09,998 --> 01:08:13,698 [steps crunching continues] 850 01:08:40,028 --> 01:08:43,728 [steps crunching continues] 851 01:09:08,448 --> 01:09:10,972 [steps crunching continues] 852 01:09:33,734 --> 01:09:35,562 [muffled voices] 853 01:09:40,176 --> 01:09:43,875 [steps crunching continues] 854 01:09:49,446 --> 01:09:54,451 [Oscar breathing heavily] [steps crunching continues] 855 01:10:05,288 --> 01:10:10,161 [muffled voices] [steps crunching continues] 856 01:10:10,162 --> 01:10:15,211 [Oscar breathing heavily] [steps crunching continues] 857 01:10:32,489 --> 01:10:36,622 [more muffled voices] [steps crunching continues] 858 01:10:36,623 --> 01:10:41,628 [Oscar breathing heavily] [steps crunching continues] 859 01:11:02,780 --> 01:11:07,785 [Oscar breathing heavily] [steps crunching continues] 860 01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:19,275 [suspenseful music] [steps crunching continues] 861 01:11:24,758 --> 01:11:29,807 ♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah 862 01:11:31,330 --> 01:11:34,464 ♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah 863 01:11:39,686 --> 01:11:43,081 [crickets chirping] 864 01:11:48,129 --> 01:11:53,178 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping] 865 01:12:13,503 --> 01:12:16,462 [crickets chirping] 866 01:12:18,769 --> 01:12:23,774 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping continues] 867 01:12:44,185 --> 01:12:48,538 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping] 868 01:13:12,823 --> 01:13:17,828 [steps crunching continues] [crickets chirping continues] 869 01:13:26,489 --> 01:13:29,535 [crickets chirping] 870 01:13:32,973 --> 01:13:37,935 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping continues] 871 01:14:06,267 --> 01:14:11,316 [steps crunching continues] [crickets chirping continues] 872 01:14:33,599 --> 01:14:38,604 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping] 873 01:14:53,271 --> 01:14:56,317 [crickets chirping] 874 01:15:18,165 --> 01:15:23,214 [steps crunching] [crickets chirping continues] 875 01:16:03,515 --> 01:16:06,431 [steps crunching] 876 01:16:39,856 --> 01:16:43,599 [steps crunching continues] 877 01:16:59,353 --> 01:17:02,226 [steps crunching] 878 01:17:16,501 --> 01:17:18,111 [Oscar Mendoza] Show yourself. 879 01:17:26,163 --> 01:17:29,035 [steps crunching] 880 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,832 [steps crunching] 881 01:18:34,666 --> 01:18:38,975 [footsteps on roof] 882 01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:18,231 [steps crunching] 883 01:19:45,128 --> 01:19:48,827 [steps crunching continues] 884 01:20:15,071 --> 01:20:18,770 [steps crunching continues] 885 01:20:42,272 --> 01:20:45,971 [door opens] 886 01:21:15,131 --> 01:21:18,874 [steps crunching continues] 887 01:21:24,053 --> 01:21:26,882 [metal clanking] 888 01:21:38,502 --> 01:21:41,374 [steps crunching] 889 01:22:17,845 --> 01:22:21,414 [camera shutter clicking] 890 01:22:46,831 --> 01:22:48,397 Ahh. 891 01:22:48,398 --> 01:22:52,750 [Oscar breathing heavily] [brooding music] 892 01:23:08,722 --> 01:23:10,376 [Gal Roberts] Oscar was found 893 01:23:11,856 --> 01:23:15,816 lying on Freight Pacific Land, clinging to life. 894 01:23:19,472 --> 01:23:23,041 He was flown to Memorial Hospital in Las Vegas. 895 01:23:24,869 --> 01:23:28,306 When I saw him before he went to Mexico, it was crazy. 896 01:23:28,307 --> 01:23:32,007 It was almost like if he was a different person. 897 01:23:33,660 --> 01:23:37,664 He was paranoid and very jumpy. 898 01:23:38,926 --> 01:23:42,974 It honestly made me really nervous. 899 01:23:44,367 --> 01:23:47,152 You could see the fear on his face. 900 01:23:49,676 --> 01:23:53,723 At the end of the day, Oscar came here as a vlogger, 901 01:23:53,724 --> 01:23:55,159 an influencer. 902 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:56,595 You know, he came to Nevada 903 01:23:56,596 --> 01:23:59,163 because he wanted a big discovery. 904 01:23:59,164 --> 01:24:02,907 He wanted this big reveal about what happened to Gary. 905 01:24:04,430 --> 01:24:07,693 You know, is his footage real or is it a hoax? 906 01:24:07,694 --> 01:24:09,435 I mean, is it all staged? 907 01:24:11,046 --> 01:24:14,223 The one thing that stands out is that Gary is gone 908 01:24:15,180 --> 01:24:17,442 and Minerva is gone. 909 01:24:17,443 --> 01:24:21,185 Ameliana, she's gone. 910 01:24:21,186 --> 01:24:23,448 But Oscar, he was found. 911 01:24:23,449 --> 01:24:24,449 He's here. 912 01:24:28,063 --> 01:24:29,194 Do I believe him? 913 01:24:30,674 --> 01:24:33,590 You know, I, I feel that he's authentic, 914 01:24:35,070 --> 01:24:39,029 but I think that's what we are left with. 915 01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:41,032 I think that's what we have to decide. 916 01:24:43,034 --> 01:24:45,470 When we reached out to Oscar for an interview, 917 01:24:45,471 --> 01:24:47,777 he said he wasn't ready, 918 01:24:47,778 --> 01:24:50,649 but he gave us permission to use his footage 919 01:24:50,650 --> 01:24:52,870 and some of his journal entries. 920 01:24:53,958 --> 01:24:55,916 He also sent me this message. 921 01:24:59,572 --> 01:25:01,007 Just read it? 922 01:25:01,008 --> 01:25:02,008 Okay. 923 01:25:05,404 --> 01:25:07,580 "I'm not ready to talk about this yet. 924 01:25:08,886 --> 01:25:10,757 I may be some time in the future, 925 01:25:11,802 --> 01:25:13,586 but I will tell you this, 926 01:25:15,936 --> 01:25:18,025 no one there is safe. 927 01:25:19,636 --> 01:25:22,943 Not outside, not inside. 928 01:25:24,684 --> 01:25:27,643 They don't always look like people." 929 01:25:27,644 --> 01:25:30,429 [brooding music] 930 01:25:41,397 --> 01:25:44,182 [brooding music] 931 01:25:45,305 --> 01:26:45,645 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 69596

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