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Armenia.
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A small country
of nearly 3 million people,
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located north of Iran
and south of Georgia.
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Its history goes back millennia.
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Armenia was the first nation
to adopt Christianity
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as the official state religion
in the early 4th century.
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The Armenians
have their own language
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and rich cultural
and intellectual traditions.
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In the 1500s,
the Armenians were absorbed
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into the Islamic Ottoman Empire,
where they lived under a system
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that allowed them to live
side by side with the Ottomans
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but often relegated them
to a lower status.
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In the early 20th century,
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the Ottomans
turned on the Armenians
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and committed genocide,
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slaughtering as many as
1.5 million Armenians
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in the most violent ways
imaginable.
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To this day,
the Ottomans' successor,
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the Turkish government, denies
the genocide ever happened.
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Ultimately, a small part of
the historic Armenian homeland
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was absorbed
into the Soviet Union,
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where Armenians lived
under communist rule.
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This land became free in 1991.
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This is the land
that today we call Armenia.
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To a certain extent,
Armenia is a state of mind.
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Certainly when I was a child,
that was the case
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because when I would go
to Armenia,
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I wasn't going
to a Soviet republic.
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I was going to my grandparents'
house in Tuckahoe, New York,
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where the vinyl record albums
were Armenian,
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where a lot of the books
were Armenian,
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where my grandmother tried to
teach me the Armenian alphabet.
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The notion that there's
a piece of earth called Armenia
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that's part of the Soviet Union
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wasn't something
that was top of mind
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to an Armenian diasporic kid
in Westchester
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in the 1960s and the 1970s.
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I remember when I was a kid,
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one day, my father
brought a globe of the world.
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You know, like a globe.
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And it was a small globe
like this.
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And like every Armenian,
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the first thing you do
is look for Armenia, you know?
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And we were kids. There were,
like, three, four of us.
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We got together,
and we're looking for Armenia,
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and it's not there.
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And it was so disappointing.
I literally started crying.
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"There is no Armenia. You've
been lying all this time."
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It was like, "No. It's there.
It's too small. You can't see."
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Although it was one of the
republics of the Soviet Union,
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we grew up with Armenia
as part of our lives.
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In those days,
they had shortwave radios
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and Armenia had programs.
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And every night, we would
listen on shortwave radio,
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Armenian programs,
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recitations, things like that.
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We knew we had a country
not free, not independent,
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but at the same time,
it was Armenia.
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My father was a survivor
of the genocide.
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And my mother was born
and raised in Beirut.
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And for them,
Armenia was the only thing
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that was supposed to
keep us alive.
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We idealized
the Armenia in our minds.
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And you think in Armenia
there are no pickpockets,
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there is no theft,
there is no crime.
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You know, it's this ideal place.
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The first time I went
to Armenia was 1964.
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Coming there,
I suddenly realized, "Whoa,
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These people are accepting me
as some kind of relative."
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But it was very easy
to get used to it.
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The food was familiar,
the language I was studying.
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And they accepted me
as if I was,
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you know, a barekam--
a friend, a relative.
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That word, by the way,
barekam,
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is used both for "friend"
and "relative" in Armenian.
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So I fell in love
with the place.
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I remember packing a suitcase,
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and my friend helped me,
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and I had all kinds of things
in it
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because we knew when you went,
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you would take things
like gum, jeans.
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And she said to me, "How come
you're taking all this?
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You know, who--
Do you have relatives?"
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I said,
"No. When you're Armenian,
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like, everybody's
your relative."
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I had the opportunity
to actually go to Armenia
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as a senior in high school.
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It was 1981.
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Now, Armenia at that time
was Soviet.
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It was Soviet Armenia.
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None of the food was the food
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that I had had
at my grandparents'.
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Um, really, none of the music,
except the church music,
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was familiar at all.
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There was no pineapple
or banana.
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We had mulberries.
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It was just a very,
very different place,
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but incredibly special.
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Driving by bus
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from Moscow south in 1987.
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I was with my family.
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Watching the landscape change
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as you got to
the Northern Caucasus
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was extraordinary.
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A transformative journey.
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You start seeing
Armenian architecture,
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medieval churches,
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this beautiful, lush
and sometimes dry
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and mountainous landscape
moving through it.
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Getting to Yerevan,
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uh, on a late summer
evening in 1987,
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was entering a new zone.
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Soviet. Armenian.
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Put those two together.
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It was one of the great journeys
of my life.
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One thing that--
It was a kind of a custom,
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especially New Year's,
like, 12:00 when time changes.
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And there was one song
that the community would sing.
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Everybody would stand up
and say,
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"I hope next year
Armenia will be free."
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That was the community attitude.
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Everybody would sing that song.
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"Hopefully next year
Armenia will be free.
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And Armenia will be free.
Armenia will be free."
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This concept of Armenia
was this dream
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that we were working towards.
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So that was infused for me
from a very young age,
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just this idea of this,
like, magical Camelot.
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We named my daughter Yeraz
because that means "dream."
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And that was for Armenia
to be independent again one day.
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And which was.
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1990, '91,
it became independent.
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So our dream came true.
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Whoever thought that
Soviet Union would fall,
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whoever thought that Armenia
was going to become
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an independent nation again,
it was-- No.
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It was completely unreal.
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And, yes, we were elated.
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It's kind of a miraculous thing
if you're an Armenian.
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All of a sudden, there's
an Armenian state on the map.
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This becomes a new
center of gravity
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for Armenians worldwide.
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They have a nation.
They have a place.
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Yerevan is its capital.
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Today, the little republic
of Armenia
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is a fraction
of what was historic Armenia.
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The idea of Armenia
was almost easy.
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This is a people who came out of
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a desperate, miserable situation
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at the beginning of the
20th century, post-genocide,
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just looking for safety, refuge.
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And they found it
in different places.
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And then eventually
they found it
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in the concept of an Armenia,
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a place that would be
something to aspire to
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that is better
than what came before.
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We didn't realize that--
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that also means
that you're now a landlord.
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You own this place.
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And that means
the doors need to be fixed
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and the windows need to be fixed
and the roof is often leaking.
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This is a serious
long-term commitment,
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and that's hard because
you're switching from dream
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with no responsibilities
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to a real place
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with huge opportunity
and responsibilities.
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The first time I visited
Armenia was in 1999.
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And to sum up the experience,
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I would say it took
the concept of Armenia
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from abstraction into reality.
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The moment I set foot
on that ground,
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I said, "Okay. So they
weren't lying. It exists."
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I love it
when I get on the plane
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and everybody's
speaking Armenian.
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I get off the plane, and
everybody's speaking Armenian.
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When I get off the plane
in Armenia,
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I feel a sense of relief.
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I feel a sense of peace.
I feel a sense of family.
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The policeman looked
like my Uncle Johnny.
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And they had the same color eyes
and just looked the same.
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And I don't know
what I was expecting,
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but everybody was Armenian, naturally.
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It was pretty exciting.
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I had never been
to Armenia before,
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but when I got to Armenia,
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it really just felt like
I came home.
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Each country or nation
has a cultural identity,
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and we have one
that goes far back
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before the genocide
into ancient history.
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And that culture is full of
all kinds of pride and poetry,
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like, a sense of who we are
as a beautiful people.
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The thing was,
when we entered the space,
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uh, for Armenia,
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that's what everything was--
kind of became real.
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This is a real thing
with people...
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with their struggles,
with their understanding,
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with their issues.
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Some things,
I can't put into words.
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We have something called
in Armenian hogi and vogi.
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It's your Armenian
soul and spirit.
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And that means a lot
to Armenians.
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The hogi.
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You-- You just have
this love of Armenia.
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It's a love that you don't know
until you see it.
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We come from a past
that is thousands of years.
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I cannot ignore that.
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Whatever I do, it is part of--
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You know,
there's something in me,
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in my psyche, in my brain.
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Uh, I carry that.
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And when I went to Armenia,
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I mean,
those things became alive.
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I remember the first night
I went to bed,
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and there was howling,
uh, all night.
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You know,
dogs were fighting outside.
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And so I was like,
"Where did I come?
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Where is this place?"
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You know,
there wasn't much electricity.
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Water, uh, was a problem.
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And the next morning,
I got up, and here I was,
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walking down the street,
smiling to everyone.
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And, of course,
no one smiled back.
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They were like, "Who is this guy
with two braids?"
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There were a lot of Armenians
flying with us to Armenia.
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And when we just about entered
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the kind of airspace of Armenia,
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someone said, "Mount Ararat!
Mount Ararat! Mount Ararat!"
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I kind of collapsed.
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I had not seen Mount Ararat,
you know, from--
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Then when we landed,
I mean, it was--
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It was a sacred, you know--
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As if you were
visiting a sacred land,
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a sacred something
that was within you
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but you had missed.
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You didn't know.
Here's the reality.
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Armenia, Armenia, Armenia.
But it's here. It is real.
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I think everyone remembers
their first moment
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of seeing Ararat,
you know, remembers that.
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You see the mountain.
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This is something
that's so exhilarating.
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My daughter is only
one fourth Armenian,
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and I was unprepared...
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to be standing with her...
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looking at Mount Ararat...
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across the border
where it sits in Turkey--
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not where it belongs,
but where it is.
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And my daughter was crying.
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And suddenly I had
all the feelings, too.
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There was the geography
of the Armenian soul.
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Mount Ararat.
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Ararat.
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The two majestic peaks
of Sis and Masis.
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Ararat is central
to the Armenian story
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because, according to tradition,
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Noah's Ark landed on Ararat
after the flood.
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As the story goes,
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Noah and his wife were
the great-grandparents of Hayk,
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who is known as the father
of the Armenian people.
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So, every time when I watch
the Mount Ararat,
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I see the resilience,
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Noah's resilience, salvation,
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and also the survival
of humankind.
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My grandfather was very, um--
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He was very Armenio-centric.
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And so he had
all these theories.
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He had the theory
about Noah's Ark
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making everybody
in the world Armenian.
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And he believed that there were
many secret Armenians
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in the world.
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Specifically for him,
Cary Grant was Armenian,
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which, um-- I don't know
if that's true or not.
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Indeed, my grandmother
used to tell me
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that all of
the world's population
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originally spoke Armenian.
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My grandmother also told me
that you had to speak Armenian
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because Armenian was
the language of heaven.
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Apparently there's
an entrance exam to get in,
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and you better know
your Armenian.
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I don't know what.
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It's ingrained in our blood,
I guess.
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When you look at it,
whether it's a picture
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or, of course,
when you see it in real life,
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it's like--
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I'm getting goosebumps thinking,
"How do I explain that?"
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I mean, I have no idea.
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It just means so much to us.
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I was completely speechless.
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The weather was beautiful,
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and it was just quiet
and peaceful and serene
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and completely untouched.
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Um, and I think that
that's one of the moments
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where I think
my jaw was just open,
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just looking at where I was.
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It's a famous line
from an Armenian poem.
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"Ararat, you were ours,
and then you were not ours."
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So Ararat was part of Armenia.
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And when the boundaries
were drawn,
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Ararat was no longer
a part of Armenia.
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When you see Mount Ararat,
it's right there,
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the huge contradiction,
the historical schism
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that we must experience
as Armenians.
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And, yet, it's not in Armenia.
It's in Turkey.
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And that right there,
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I felt it
when I was looking at it--
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sort of an exhilaration
and sadness at the same time.
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The whole issue of Ararat
as Armenia's cultural symbol
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haunts the nation,
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because, of course,
it's situated
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a mile on the other side
of the border
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of the country
that committed genocide
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against the Armenian people.
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You can't find
a more ironic, tragic,
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and inspiring natural symbol
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than Ararat for Armenians.
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I live in Vermont,
and my car has a vanity plate.
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"ARARAT." A-R-A-R-A-T.
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Twice-- Twice,
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I've met other cars that have
the ARARAT license plate.
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I met the new Jersey one,
and I met the Massachusetts one.
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Because it's a small
Armenian community,
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and, obviously,
at certain Armenian events,
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there's going to be
multiple ARARAT cars
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if there are people
from multiple states.
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Ararat is so embedded
in our culture,
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in our, uh, mentality,
the way we're brought up.
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This is why everywhere you go,
all over the world--
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all over the world--
you see Ararat football team,
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Ararat barber shop,
Ararat old-age home,
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Ararat restaurant.
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Everywhere. Everywhere.
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Yerevan.
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It is the capital
of the modern Armenian state
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and one of the oldest
continually inhabited cities
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in the world.
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When the Soviets came
in December of 1920,
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this Yerevan,
now a city of a million people,
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was a dusty little place,
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and it then organized itself.
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And under Soviet rule,
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under an architect
named Tamanian,
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it became a modern city
and a modern country.
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This was going to be a town
of about 100,000-- 150,000.
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It was like a wheel with spokes.
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But the legend is
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that if you looked at Yerevan
from the air,
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it was supposed to look like
the hammer and sickle.
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I think what I love
about Yerevan,
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which I think is
very interesting
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is there's still so much
Soviet influence that's there.
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And the Soviet era
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has a very specific
architectural look.
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And then next to it,
you'll see something
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that is quintessentially
Armenian.
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But Armenians are warm,
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00:23:07,473 --> 00:23:09,562
and we're warmer
than that architecture.
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So our architecture contrasted
with that architecture
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is almost a sign
of how far we've come.
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Some of my favorite memories
as an adult
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are visiting Yerevan.
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I mean, when I think
of the places on this planet
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00:23:28,276 --> 00:23:31,018
that are ground zero
for my soul,
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among them is the corner
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of Abovyan and Aram Streets
in Yerevan.
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Because Aram
was my father's name.
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It is my middle name.
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And Abovyan was the first
modern Armenian novelist.
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Yerevan is kind of
like a bustling city now.
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If you're in Yerevan
in the summer,
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you're gonna bump into
someone you know.
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It's like a reunion.
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I like the fact that I can
get off the plane at 8:30,
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drop off my suitcases,
go sit at my favorite café,
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00:24:06,967 --> 00:24:09,665
and meet people
and talk until 12:00.
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00:24:09,796 --> 00:24:11,493
Plan a schedule. Get work done.
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00:24:11,624 --> 00:24:13,364
Find long-lost cousins
from Brazil,
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00:24:13,495 --> 00:24:16,063
which is what's happened
to me in Yerevan.
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00:24:16,193 --> 00:24:19,414
It's a real place.
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00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:23,766
One of the reasons
why it's such a gorgeous city
381
00:24:23,897 --> 00:24:28,379
is because it was built
largely by an architect
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00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:32,471
who had a great vision
for what he wanted to do.
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00:24:32,601 --> 00:24:37,650
I mean, a city where the streets
are named after poets...
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...where there's sculptures
everywhere...
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where there are fountains...
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00:24:44,439 --> 00:24:45,832
and literally--
literally museums
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00:24:45,962 --> 00:24:47,616
and places like the Cascades
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00:24:47,747 --> 00:24:50,967
that feels like falling water
made of marble.
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00:24:53,056 --> 00:24:56,233
One of the days,
we went to The Cascade,
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00:24:56,364 --> 00:24:57,974
which is very striking.
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00:24:58,105 --> 00:25:00,150
I think if you're looking at it
and you look up,
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I mean, there are these white
steps and they're gigantic.
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00:25:05,416 --> 00:25:08,289
That monument is near
my grandparents' home,
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00:25:08,419 --> 00:25:11,422
and I have this one
particular awesome memory
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of just--
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00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:16,210
It was New Year's Day,
and my uncle took me,
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00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:18,038
and it was-- I don't know
why I remember this so well,
398
00:25:18,168 --> 00:25:19,692
but we went up there.
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00:25:19,822 --> 00:25:21,302
I've been there so many times,
400
00:25:21,432 --> 00:25:23,913
but that moment of us
going together...
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00:25:29,571 --> 00:25:31,747
I went to an outdoor market
in Yerevan,
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00:25:31,878 --> 00:25:33,793
and I bought some earrings
403
00:25:33,923 --> 00:25:37,274
and then I also
bought a painting.
404
00:25:37,405 --> 00:25:38,928
It was nice to bring--
I kind of brought
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00:25:39,059 --> 00:25:41,104
a little bit of Armenia
back with me.
406
00:25:45,239 --> 00:25:46,980
When we were
first driving around,
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00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:48,982
I remember my face
was just pressed up
408
00:25:49,112 --> 00:25:51,158
against the glass,
just looking at everything.
409
00:25:51,288 --> 00:25:54,944
And you just see people
just enjoying their life,
410
00:25:55,075 --> 00:25:57,294
just living life
in this beautiful city.
411
00:25:57,425 --> 00:25:59,601
And the people there
are so welcoming.
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00:26:02,430 --> 00:26:04,824
I was with a very tall Irishman
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00:26:04,954 --> 00:26:08,131
and a group of people
who aren't Armenian,
414
00:26:08,262 --> 00:26:11,265
and people were so welcoming
towards us.
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00:26:13,441 --> 00:26:18,359
I first went to Armenia
in 2012,
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00:26:18,489 --> 00:26:21,884
and I flew on an airline
called Armavia.
417
00:26:22,015 --> 00:26:25,540
May it rest in peace.
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00:26:25,671 --> 00:26:29,022
But I land, and I was met
by a friend of a friend
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00:26:29,152 --> 00:26:32,068
I had never met.
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00:26:32,199 --> 00:26:34,941
A guy named Moses Babian.
421
00:26:35,071 --> 00:26:39,510
And Moses gives me a whirlwind
four-day tour of Armenia,
422
00:26:39,641 --> 00:26:42,122
completely ignoring
his business,
423
00:26:42,252 --> 00:26:46,039
completely ignoring his friends.
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00:26:46,169 --> 00:26:48,781
And we're standing
in front of the statue
425
00:26:48,911 --> 00:26:51,610
of Pulitzer Prize-winning
Armenian-American
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00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:54,134
playwright and screenwriter
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00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:57,398
and short-story writer
William Saroyan.
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00:26:57,528 --> 00:27:00,706
And Moses says,
"Chris, you need coat."
429
00:27:00,836 --> 00:27:02,708
And he immediately
takes his own coat off
430
00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:05,188
and puts the coat on me,
so it looks like the coat
431
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:08,191
that Saroyan is wearing
in the statue.
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00:27:08,322 --> 00:27:12,761
And it's one of
my favorite photos ever.
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00:27:12,892 --> 00:27:14,981
My last trip to Armenia
was with my husband
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00:27:15,111 --> 00:27:16,852
and our twin boy and girl,
435
00:27:16,983 --> 00:27:18,462
which was amazing
because, for us,
436
00:27:18,593 --> 00:27:20,769
it was a way to introduce them
to their heritage
437
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,598
and really show them
the beauty of Armenia.
438
00:27:23,729 --> 00:27:25,992
For me, seeing Armenia
through their eyes
439
00:27:26,122 --> 00:27:28,081
was-- was really special.
440
00:27:28,211 --> 00:27:31,475
And for them to understand that,
you know, you're Armenian,
441
00:27:31,606 --> 00:27:34,696
you know, your family,
your ancestors came from here,
442
00:27:34,827 --> 00:27:37,699
and what that meant,
was astonishing.
443
00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:47,230
One of the most incredible
sights in Armenia
444
00:27:47,361 --> 00:27:50,886
is the pre-Christian
temple of Garni.
445
00:27:51,017 --> 00:27:52,932
Though its exact history
is unknown,
446
00:27:53,062 --> 00:27:55,543
some believe it was built
in the first century
447
00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:59,286
by an Armenian king
to honor a sun god.
448
00:27:59,416 --> 00:28:03,464
Garni is singular
in its part of the world.
449
00:28:03,594 --> 00:28:07,990
The only Hellenic temple
in all of the Soviet Union
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00:28:08,121 --> 00:28:11,341
was at Garni in Armenia.
451
00:28:11,472 --> 00:28:13,866
This beautifully proportioned
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00:28:13,996 --> 00:28:17,783
Greek-style temple
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00:28:17,913 --> 00:28:20,089
with columns
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00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:24,137
pitched at the precipice
of a ravine.
455
00:28:24,267 --> 00:28:26,835
Armenian architects
really love drama.
456
00:28:29,446 --> 00:28:31,927
When the sun is setting,
457
00:28:32,058 --> 00:28:34,277
it's very, very, very pretty.
458
00:28:34,408 --> 00:28:36,497
There's so much history
to it, too,
459
00:28:36,627 --> 00:28:38,455
the fact that it's existed
for so long
460
00:28:38,586 --> 00:28:40,501
and you're standing
or sitting there
461
00:28:40,631 --> 00:28:44,940
and you're like, "Wow.
You know. This is incredible."
462
00:28:46,855 --> 00:28:51,468
You know, it was just
an incredible construction
463
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,427
from ancient times.
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00:28:55,472 --> 00:28:56,778
I really loved Garni.
465
00:28:56,909 --> 00:28:59,650
I loved the feeling
of the region,
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00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:01,261
the cherry trees
that were up there.
467
00:29:01,391 --> 00:29:02,915
It was the end of the summer.
468
00:29:03,045 --> 00:29:07,136
And I thought if I ever
were to want to retire
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00:29:07,267 --> 00:29:09,356
to some place, this is the area
470
00:29:09,486 --> 00:29:11,662
that I would come to,
up in these mountains.
471
00:29:16,145 --> 00:29:19,148
One of the most amazing things
about Armenia
472
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:20,933
is that you can go
from summer to winter
473
00:29:21,063 --> 00:29:24,632
in just a few hours of driving.
474
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:26,808
Here at the top of Mount Aragat,
475
00:29:26,939 --> 00:29:29,158
the snow falls
in the middle of June.
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00:29:33,206 --> 00:29:35,077
And also located here
477
00:29:35,208 --> 00:29:38,385
is the famed Aragats
Cosmic Ray Research Station,
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00:29:38,515 --> 00:29:40,561
where countless
scientific breakthroughs
479
00:29:40,691 --> 00:29:43,782
were made by Armenian and other
scientists over the decades.
480
00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:50,266
In the middle of Armenia
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00:29:50,397 --> 00:29:53,356
is one of the most beautiful
bodies of water in the world.
482
00:29:53,487 --> 00:29:55,358
Lake Sevan.
483
00:29:55,489 --> 00:29:58,013
The famed Russian writer
Maxim Gorky said
484
00:29:58,144 --> 00:30:01,016
it was a piece of heaven
that had fallen to the earth.
485
00:30:01,147 --> 00:30:02,931
My favorite place to go to
in Armenia
486
00:30:03,062 --> 00:30:04,803
is probably Lake Sevan.
487
00:30:04,933 --> 00:30:07,066
It's so beautiful
and so peaceful,
488
00:30:07,196 --> 00:30:10,199
and it feels almost out of place
to where it is.
489
00:30:12,506 --> 00:30:15,988
I went to Lake Sevan
a couple of times.
490
00:30:16,118 --> 00:30:18,207
That was pretty incredible.
491
00:30:18,338 --> 00:30:22,777
And that little church
up on the hill.
492
00:30:22,908 --> 00:30:25,867
I named my daughter Sevan
after Lake Sevan.
493
00:30:25,998 --> 00:30:27,869
Even though everyone
mispronounces it.
494
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,566
And I make a point to tell her,
495
00:30:29,697 --> 00:30:31,090
"Make sure you tell people
how to say it."
496
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:34,745
They say "suh-VON" or "seven,"
which is nuts.
497
00:30:34,876 --> 00:30:38,488
So I make sure
she corrects people.
498
00:30:46,105 --> 00:30:49,717
Armenia is also home
to the Jermuk Waterfall.
499
00:30:52,285 --> 00:30:55,027
As some say, it flows down
the side of the mountain
500
00:30:55,157 --> 00:30:56,811
like the hair of a princess.
501
00:30:59,074 --> 00:31:01,337
Jermuk Waterfall
is absolutely stunning.
502
00:31:01,468 --> 00:31:03,078
It's breathtaking.
503
00:31:03,209 --> 00:31:05,776
There's almost
a sense of peace to it.
504
00:31:19,486 --> 00:31:21,618
Armenia is in many ways
505
00:31:21,749 --> 00:31:25,884
inseparable from
its Christianity.
506
00:31:26,014 --> 00:31:27,624
Its Christian story begins
507
00:31:27,755 --> 00:31:30,236
with a man named Krikor,
or Gregory,
508
00:31:30,366 --> 00:31:32,586
in the late third century.
509
00:31:32,716 --> 00:31:36,285
According to tradition,
Gregory preached Christianity
510
00:31:36,416 --> 00:31:38,461
to the king of Armenia,
Tiridates,
511
00:31:38,592 --> 00:31:40,507
but rather than accept
Christianity,
512
00:31:40,637 --> 00:31:44,554
the king threw him
into a deep pit.
513
00:31:44,685 --> 00:31:48,732
Centuries later, a church
was built over the pit.
514
00:31:48,863 --> 00:31:53,433
It is a pilgrimage site for
thousands of people every year.
515
00:31:53,563 --> 00:31:55,130
Back then, it was a prison.
516
00:31:55,261 --> 00:31:58,177
It wasn't this beautiful
monastery that we have today.
517
00:31:58,307 --> 00:32:03,095
It was a prison filled
with snakes and scorpions.
518
00:32:03,225 --> 00:32:05,967
And the legend says
that Saint Gregory survived
519
00:32:06,098 --> 00:32:08,709
because one of the ladies
from a village
520
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:12,060
would bring bread
to help the saint.
521
00:32:12,191 --> 00:32:15,716
But, of course, 13 years
living in that small pit,
522
00:32:15,846 --> 00:32:18,719
it's only through
and thanks to the faith
523
00:32:18,849 --> 00:32:22,070
and the trust in God
that someone can live
524
00:32:22,201 --> 00:32:24,116
and can survive
that kind of imprisonment,
525
00:32:24,246 --> 00:32:26,553
that kind of hardship.
526
00:32:29,164 --> 00:32:30,731
You go down there,
and you look around,
527
00:32:30,861 --> 00:32:33,168
and it's like--
I mean, it's prison, right?
528
00:32:33,299 --> 00:32:37,216
So it can be really powerful.
529
00:32:37,346 --> 00:32:40,480
I never went to church
when I was growing up.
530
00:32:40,610 --> 00:32:43,700
Um, and then we--
we went to Khor Virap.
531
00:32:43,831 --> 00:32:46,094
And listening
the beautiful music,
532
00:32:46,225 --> 00:32:48,575
the centuries-old hymns,
533
00:32:48,705 --> 00:32:50,577
and smelling the khunk,
the incense,
534
00:32:50,707 --> 00:32:54,233
and witnessing people's worship,
people's presence,
535
00:32:54,363 --> 00:32:57,279
prayerful presence
in the church,
536
00:32:57,410 --> 00:32:59,194
that took my breath away.
537
00:32:59,325 --> 00:33:02,284
And that day,
I told to myself,
538
00:33:02,415 --> 00:33:03,938
"I want to be here.
539
00:33:04,069 --> 00:33:05,809
I want to live here."
540
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:07,811
Because I felt something,
541
00:33:07,942 --> 00:33:10,553
uh, a presence in the church.
542
00:33:13,469 --> 00:33:15,384
When you go to Khor Virap,
543
00:33:15,515 --> 00:33:17,734
there are two kinds of people--
544
00:33:17,865 --> 00:33:20,085
people who go down into the pit
545
00:33:20,215 --> 00:33:24,306
and people who don't go
into the pit.
546
00:33:24,437 --> 00:33:26,134
I went into the pit.
547
00:33:26,265 --> 00:33:30,399
I unfortunately was not
brave enough to go down.
548
00:33:33,098 --> 00:33:36,579
But back to the story
of King Tiridates and Krikor.
549
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:39,452
God's wrath came down
on that king,
550
00:33:39,582 --> 00:33:42,368
and the king was
turned into a wild boar.
551
00:33:45,806 --> 00:33:50,724
And only when his daughter
convinced the king,
552
00:33:50,854 --> 00:33:53,466
somehow, in wild boar form,
553
00:33:53,596 --> 00:33:57,557
to convert Armenia
and liberate Gregory,
554
00:33:57,687 --> 00:34:01,387
by the way, who then preached
to him for a very long time,
555
00:34:01,517 --> 00:34:04,868
was the king
restored to his human form.
556
00:34:04,999 --> 00:34:09,656
And he decided, "Yes, of course,
we'll convert to Christianity."
557
00:34:11,223 --> 00:34:14,269
And the Armenians created
their own Christian church.
558
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,533
It's not Orthodox.
It's not Catholic.
559
00:34:17,664 --> 00:34:19,579
It's its own national church.
560
00:34:19,709 --> 00:34:24,540
And it's that national church
that has kept Armenians unified.
561
00:34:24,671 --> 00:34:27,500
And that tradition is the core
562
00:34:27,630 --> 00:34:32,157
of how they maintained their
existence through genocide,
563
00:34:32,287 --> 00:34:34,594
through the attempt
of the Ottoman Turks
564
00:34:34,724 --> 00:34:38,685
to eliminate them as a people
from their historic homeland
565
00:34:38,815 --> 00:34:41,557
into the present day.
566
00:34:41,688 --> 00:34:44,604
While the Church
unified Armenia's religion,
567
00:34:44,734 --> 00:34:47,128
making Armenia
the first Christian nation
568
00:34:47,259 --> 00:34:49,043
in the year 301,
569
00:34:49,174 --> 00:34:51,698
it was the brilliance
of a fifth-century man
570
00:34:51,828 --> 00:34:53,917
named Mesrop Mashtots
571
00:34:54,048 --> 00:34:55,658
who strengthened that unity
572
00:34:55,789 --> 00:34:59,140
with the creation
of the Armenian alphabet.
573
00:34:59,271 --> 00:35:01,360
Mesrop Mashtots
was the inventor
574
00:35:01,490 --> 00:35:03,057
of the Armenian alphabet,
575
00:35:03,188 --> 00:35:05,277
and therefore Armenians
have a written literature
576
00:35:05,407 --> 00:35:07,322
from that time.
577
00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:10,760
At the time that he was born,
Armenia was kind of divided.
578
00:35:10,891 --> 00:35:13,372
Mesrop Mashtots
was that man who invented,
579
00:35:13,502 --> 00:35:17,680
unifying the Armenian
alphabet through language,
580
00:35:17,811 --> 00:35:20,770
through the alphabet
that he invented.
581
00:35:20,901 --> 00:35:23,295
And this is something
that you cannot see.
582
00:35:23,425 --> 00:35:25,297
It is not--
It is not a weapon.
583
00:35:25,427 --> 00:35:28,561
You cannot shoot, you cannot
kill, but you can survive.
584
00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:32,304
I love the Armenian language.
I do.
585
00:35:32,434 --> 00:35:33,914
And I love reading Armenian.
586
00:35:34,044 --> 00:35:36,134
I can feel other wheels
spinning in my brain
587
00:35:36,264 --> 00:35:39,137
and the realness of Armenian.
588
00:35:39,267 --> 00:35:41,313
I don't know how to
describe this, but, you know,
589
00:35:41,443 --> 00:35:44,142
when you're actually using a
language every day to function,
590
00:35:44,272 --> 00:35:46,100
it's very different
from knowing it
591
00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:48,320
as a heritage language,
you know, living at home.
592
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:50,670
It's not kitchen Armenian
anymore.
593
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,715
It's real. And I love it.
594
00:35:56,110 --> 00:35:58,243
Not far from Yerevan,
595
00:35:58,373 --> 00:36:00,767
an artist so loved
the Armenian alphabet
596
00:36:00,897 --> 00:36:02,464
that he created a field
597
00:36:02,595 --> 00:36:04,858
filled with giant
Armenian letters
598
00:36:04,988 --> 00:36:07,513
to decorate the countryside.
599
00:36:07,643 --> 00:36:10,777
You know,
here's all these big letters.
600
00:36:10,907 --> 00:36:13,083
And, of course, you stand
in front of the one--
601
00:36:13,214 --> 00:36:17,262
Like, I stood
in front of the tyun...
602
00:36:23,485 --> 00:36:25,313
When I drive out of Yerevan,
603
00:36:25,444 --> 00:36:29,970
I find myself driving
into moors, highlands,
604
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:33,669
grassy plateaus...
605
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,196
canyons, ravines.
606
00:36:38,326 --> 00:36:42,591
And the grassy highlands
are very dramatic landscapes.
607
00:36:42,722 --> 00:36:44,767
The great monasteries
and churches
608
00:36:44,898 --> 00:36:47,205
built in some
of these locations.
609
00:36:47,335 --> 00:36:50,033
When I'm on the outskirts,
when I'm in the villages,
610
00:36:50,164 --> 00:36:51,948
when I'm in the mountains,
611
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:53,515
kind of going
outside of the city,
612
00:36:53,646 --> 00:36:55,213
I can't recommend that enough.
613
00:36:55,343 --> 00:36:58,564
Leaving Yerevan
and going out to the outskirts,
614
00:36:58,694 --> 00:37:00,957
that's where I feel--
615
00:37:01,088 --> 00:37:02,611
Well, that's where
I feel at home.
616
00:37:08,356 --> 00:37:10,663
So, as we were driving,
617
00:37:10,793 --> 00:37:13,143
all of a sudden,
there was a blockade of sheep.
618
00:37:13,274 --> 00:37:18,192
Just white
fluffy coats stopping us.
619
00:37:18,323 --> 00:37:21,195
And, you know,
they're just not in a rush.
620
00:37:21,326 --> 00:37:23,458
They're taking their time,
these sheep.
621
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:28,202
The landscape is so incredible,
622
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:30,726
and so you never know
what you're gonna see.
623
00:37:34,339 --> 00:37:37,646
The historic buildings,
the ancient churches,
624
00:37:37,777 --> 00:37:39,431
they're absolutely beautiful.
625
00:37:39,561 --> 00:37:42,912
You feel the history
when you walk into these places.
626
00:37:43,043 --> 00:37:45,306
And that's why when I went
into this one church
627
00:37:45,437 --> 00:37:46,829
and it was still being used,
628
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,180
that it wasn't just
a relic of the past.
629
00:37:50,311 --> 00:37:52,531
It was representing
the future also.
630
00:37:56,883 --> 00:37:58,624
What I love about Geghard
631
00:37:58,754 --> 00:38:01,061
is that it's this church
that's carved into a mountain.
632
00:38:09,417 --> 00:38:11,419
And there's parts of the church
633
00:38:11,550 --> 00:38:14,466
where you see the trickles
of water across the floor,
634
00:38:14,596 --> 00:38:17,556
and you really get the sense
that you're in this mountain.
635
00:38:21,690 --> 00:38:25,041
Geghard was mind-blowing
the first time I saw it.
636
00:38:25,172 --> 00:38:29,002
Remains mind-blowing
every time I go.
637
00:38:29,132 --> 00:38:32,571
Uh...
638
00:38:32,701 --> 00:38:36,314
Medieval church
built into rocky,
639
00:38:36,444 --> 00:38:39,317
mountainous highlands
640
00:38:39,447 --> 00:38:42,929
with monastery appendices
641
00:38:43,059 --> 00:38:48,108
rolling into the rocky
mountainside behind it.
642
00:38:48,238 --> 00:38:51,329
Ornately decorated caves.
643
00:38:51,459 --> 00:38:55,245
Uh, khachkars
carved into walls.
644
00:38:55,376 --> 00:38:57,509
There's this coldness,
dampness, this--
645
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:00,120
And you smell that dampness
in the air.
646
00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:03,558
But it's almost like
you're smelling how old it is,
647
00:39:03,689 --> 00:39:06,169
which in and of itself
is pretty amazing.
648
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:09,042
And then you'll hear, you know,
one of the priests singing,
649
00:39:09,172 --> 00:39:11,566
and the acoustics
in that building
650
00:39:11,697 --> 00:39:14,177
in that mountain
are unbelievable.
651
00:39:19,487 --> 00:39:22,316
I mean, it gives me goosebumps
652
00:39:22,447 --> 00:39:25,319
even just imagining the sounds
that I've heard in that church
653
00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:28,801
or seeing the rows and rows
of beeswax candles
654
00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:30,672
just all burning down
into the sand.
655
00:39:30,803 --> 00:39:33,545
There's something--
I don't know-- so mystical,
656
00:39:33,675 --> 00:39:36,722
truly mystical about that place.
657
00:39:36,852 --> 00:39:40,247
Anytime I go, I'm always
lighting one for each person.
658
00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:43,555
So there are lots of candles.
I take over.
659
00:39:43,685 --> 00:39:45,774
Um, but-- but it's, uh--
660
00:39:45,905 --> 00:39:48,342
it's very moving--
to watch people do it
661
00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:50,388
and for you to do it yourself,
as well.
662
00:40:10,930 --> 00:40:14,368
Monastery at Tatev
is really a dramatic,
663
00:40:14,499 --> 00:40:18,198
one-of-a-kind environment.
664
00:40:22,768 --> 00:40:27,381
You glide off
this extraordinary cable car
665
00:40:27,512 --> 00:40:30,210
into a medieval monastery
666
00:40:30,340 --> 00:40:34,214
that's a gorgeous
formation church.
667
00:40:34,344 --> 00:40:38,218
And you feel that you're
in some mythical place.
668
00:40:38,348 --> 00:40:42,222
You're transported into
medieval Armenian culture
669
00:40:42,352 --> 00:40:45,617
in this incredible
mountain environment.
670
00:40:45,747 --> 00:40:50,056
And yet, you know,
it's 2020, it's 2023.
671
00:40:50,186 --> 00:40:53,886
And it's alive and well.
672
00:40:54,016 --> 00:40:57,019
The word "Tatev"
means "giving wings."
673
00:40:57,150 --> 00:41:00,414
And every time when you go
to Tatev Monastery,
674
00:41:00,545 --> 00:41:04,244
you feel that presence,
that breathtaking--
675
00:41:04,374 --> 00:41:07,856
It gives me wings to see
that beautiful monastery,
676
00:41:07,987 --> 00:41:12,470
beautiful nature,
and feeling the history
677
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,257
and the presence of
countless of faithful and monks
678
00:41:17,387 --> 00:41:20,826
who lived there
and who created that center
679
00:41:20,956 --> 00:41:25,308
as not only as a monastery,
but also as a university,
680
00:41:25,439 --> 00:41:29,835
as a center of cultural
and intellectual development.
681
00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:33,708
When I go to these churches,
I wish I was a believer.
682
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:35,928
Maybe, you know, this--
this is the closest thing
683
00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:38,844
that comes to believing
in something.
684
00:41:38,974 --> 00:41:42,674
Because I love the fact
that some things have lasted,
685
00:41:42,804 --> 00:41:46,068
endured a couple of thousand
years and they're still there.
686
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:51,378
And it's a reminder that you--
you have existed all this time.
687
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:54,337
And it gives you hope that if we
have existed all these years,
688
00:41:54,468 --> 00:41:57,297
you know, maybe we'll--
we will continue existing.
689
00:42:03,433 --> 00:42:07,133
In general, they're just,
like, meditative spaces.
690
00:42:07,263 --> 00:42:11,093
There's, like, this austere,
calm, spiritual--
691
00:42:11,224 --> 00:42:14,706
I don't know what
the right words are.
692
00:42:14,836 --> 00:42:19,319
They're buildings
that are centuries-old.
693
00:42:19,449 --> 00:42:21,669
To look at the architecture
and see how it was built
694
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,193
and think about all the hands
that were involved.
695
00:42:24,324 --> 00:42:26,935
They didn't have machines.
That we know of, right?
696
00:42:27,066 --> 00:42:29,329
Modern machines.
697
00:42:29,459 --> 00:42:31,331
So, how many hundreds
of people did it take?
698
00:42:31,461 --> 00:42:33,115
How many lives were lost?
699
00:42:34,682 --> 00:42:38,251
I'm walking in the monastery.
700
00:42:38,381 --> 00:42:40,514
And I notice as I'm walking--
701
00:42:40,645 --> 00:42:45,475
I look down,
and there are sort of big tiles.
702
00:42:45,606 --> 00:42:48,261
They're, like,
big rectangular tiles,
703
00:42:48,391 --> 00:42:49,741
essentially, in the floor.
704
00:42:49,871 --> 00:42:51,351
The guy's giving us a tour,
705
00:42:51,481 --> 00:42:56,008
and I see sort of shapes
carved into these tiles,
706
00:42:56,138 --> 00:42:58,271
and I'm realizing
they're sort of
707
00:42:58,401 --> 00:43:00,969
stick figures or human figures.
708
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,623
And some are smaller
and some are larger.
709
00:43:02,754 --> 00:43:04,669
And I'm like, "What is this?"
710
00:43:04,799 --> 00:43:07,541
And the guy says,
"Oh, these are the graves
711
00:43:07,672 --> 00:43:10,152
of the townspeople who died."
712
00:43:11,937 --> 00:43:14,983
And then he said
the cultural tradition
713
00:43:15,114 --> 00:43:18,291
is if you walk on the graves,
714
00:43:18,421 --> 00:43:19,858
their souls are not forgotten.
715
00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:45,144
Etchmiadzin, of course,
is a great cultural center.
716
00:43:45,274 --> 00:43:47,625
It is Armenia's Vatican.
717
00:43:47,755 --> 00:43:53,326
It is a source of learning,
a place of training.
718
00:43:53,456 --> 00:43:57,373
Priests and clergy
for centuries,
719
00:43:57,504 --> 00:44:00,028
for more, for millennia.
It's essential.
720
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,640
Anybody that wants
to understand Armenia
721
00:44:02,770 --> 00:44:06,382
needs to spend time
at Etchmiadzin.
722
00:44:06,513 --> 00:44:09,429
I visit there every time
that I go,
723
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,824
not only the church,
but the church people
724
00:44:12,954 --> 00:44:16,436
who are buried on that site.
725
00:44:16,566 --> 00:44:18,917
Everyone goes to Etchmiadzin.
It's a special place.
726
00:44:19,047 --> 00:44:20,919
I mean, it's enough
of a special place for me
727
00:44:21,049 --> 00:44:23,791
to want to take my kids there
to be baptized.
728
00:44:23,922 --> 00:44:26,489
There's meaning to it.
729
00:44:26,620 --> 00:44:28,927
I went to Etchmiadzin,
730
00:44:29,057 --> 00:44:33,192
and we sat inside the church
at the very front.
731
00:44:33,322 --> 00:44:35,063
I was there on Easter.
732
00:44:35,194 --> 00:44:38,414
And I'm not really religious,
733
00:44:38,545 --> 00:44:41,853
but to be there
and hear the hymns
734
00:44:41,983 --> 00:44:43,898
and to see the people.
735
00:44:44,029 --> 00:44:46,988
And after, you know, they're
kind of carrying a cross.
736
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:48,816
And all these people
737
00:44:48,947 --> 00:44:51,079
were raising their hands
and reaching for it.
738
00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:54,692
And it was a spiritual
experience for me
739
00:44:54,822 --> 00:44:57,825
to be there around
all these people doing that.
740
00:44:57,956 --> 00:44:59,784
One of the things
that my grandpa told me
741
00:44:59,914 --> 00:45:01,742
was that I needed
to go to Etchmiadzin,
742
00:45:01,873 --> 00:45:03,962
and I needed to light
a candle there.
743
00:45:04,092 --> 00:45:05,877
So I went to Etchmiadzin.
744
00:45:06,007 --> 00:45:09,489
But when I went
into that church specifically,
745
00:45:09,619 --> 00:45:12,144
I felt this very sort of
strong sense
746
00:45:12,274 --> 00:45:15,060
of, like, just spirituality
just overwhelm me.
747
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:17,323
And I felt it when I walked in.
748
00:45:17,453 --> 00:45:19,542
And I did
what my grandpa wanted.
749
00:45:19,673 --> 00:45:22,676
I went and I lit a few candles
for, you know, my family,
750
00:45:22,807 --> 00:45:24,199
for everybody back home.
751
00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:25,984
I said a few prayers,
752
00:45:26,114 --> 00:45:28,900
and it was a really
kind of beautiful moment
753
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:31,032
that I had to myself,
754
00:45:31,163 --> 00:45:33,556
and I was just really happy
that I got a chance to do that.
755
00:45:37,865 --> 00:45:40,041
A painful chapter for Armenians
756
00:45:40,172 --> 00:45:44,524
is that of Nagorno-Karabakh,
also known as Artsakh.
757
00:45:44,654 --> 00:45:46,787
Located outside
the formal borders
758
00:45:46,918 --> 00:45:50,748
of the current state of Armenia
in neighboring Azerbaijan,
759
00:45:50,878 --> 00:45:52,967
it has been home
to an ethnic majority
760
00:45:53,098 --> 00:45:55,753
of hundreds of thousands
of Armenians
761
00:45:55,883 --> 00:45:58,016
going back millennia.
762
00:45:58,146 --> 00:46:02,977
My family has been
in Artsakh for generations.
763
00:46:03,108 --> 00:46:07,765
Our father's lineage
can be traced back.
764
00:46:07,895 --> 00:46:09,592
The house that we had in Artsakh
765
00:46:09,723 --> 00:46:11,551
was built
by my great-grandfather,
766
00:46:11,681 --> 00:46:15,076
and we visited
almost every summer as kids,
767
00:46:15,207 --> 00:46:18,471
as did my dad growing up.
768
00:46:18,601 --> 00:46:22,040
Artsakh for me is motherland
769
00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:26,392
because my mother's side
is from Artsakh.
770
00:46:26,522 --> 00:46:31,179
And Armenia and Artsakh,
for me, they are one.
771
00:46:31,310 --> 00:46:33,442
Since the fall
of the Soviet Union,
772
00:46:33,573 --> 00:46:36,402
there have been repeated
violent conflicts over the land,
773
00:46:36,532 --> 00:46:39,579
with both countries
viewing it as their own.
774
00:46:39,709 --> 00:46:42,321
The region has been governed
by ethnic Armenians
775
00:46:42,451 --> 00:46:44,758
since the early 1990s
776
00:46:44,889 --> 00:46:46,978
when they defeated
Azerbaijan's armies
777
00:46:47,108 --> 00:46:49,763
after several years of war.
778
00:46:49,894 --> 00:46:52,722
In September of 2023, however,
779
00:46:52,853 --> 00:46:57,336
Azerbaijan attacked
and captured Artsakh completely.
780
00:46:57,466 --> 00:46:59,555
Many Armenians were killed,
781
00:46:59,686 --> 00:47:02,776
and virtually
the entire Armenian population,
782
00:47:02,907 --> 00:47:05,083
as many as 120,000 people,
783
00:47:05,213 --> 00:47:08,390
were forced to leave
their historic homeland
784
00:47:08,521 --> 00:47:11,872
to resettle in Armenia
and other lands.
785
00:47:12,003 --> 00:47:14,353
I was at work
when I got the news
786
00:47:14,483 --> 00:47:16,268
that the war had started,
787
00:47:16,398 --> 00:47:20,402
that the escalation
has gone forward, um,
788
00:47:20,533 --> 00:47:23,449
and it almost felt,
like, unreal.
789
00:47:23,579 --> 00:47:28,106
It felt as if the ground
was pulled from under me
790
00:47:28,236 --> 00:47:30,586
or the carpet
was pulled from under me.
791
00:47:30,717 --> 00:47:34,242
Tears. Pain.
792
00:47:34,373 --> 00:47:37,593
This is what ethnic
cleansing looks like.
793
00:47:37,724 --> 00:47:41,293
Over 100,000 ethnic
Armenians fleeing.
794
00:47:41,423 --> 00:47:43,730
This is the first time
in thousands of years
795
00:47:43,861 --> 00:47:46,341
that the indigenous
Armenian population
796
00:47:46,472 --> 00:47:49,867
has not been in Artsakh.
797
00:47:49,997 --> 00:47:54,088
I was very sad about the--
798
00:47:54,219 --> 00:47:56,569
the loss of life in Artsakh
799
00:47:56,699 --> 00:47:59,224
and the terrific hardships
800
00:47:59,354 --> 00:48:01,356
on the people who had to leave.
801
00:48:03,445 --> 00:48:05,665
Because of the shift
in the politics over there,
802
00:48:05,795 --> 00:48:09,669
they were able to do what they'd
wanted to do for a long time,
803
00:48:09,799 --> 00:48:14,326
which was, you know,
hurt Armenia deeply.
804
00:48:14,456 --> 00:48:18,373
I was thinking how...
I cannot really feel.
805
00:48:18,504 --> 00:48:20,201
What is that like
806
00:48:20,332 --> 00:48:23,074
to leave your home
807
00:48:23,204 --> 00:48:26,729
and get in a caravan of cars
808
00:48:26,860 --> 00:48:31,604
leaving your home land, really?
809
00:48:31,734 --> 00:48:34,824
And starting all over again.
810
00:48:34,955 --> 00:48:37,523
Our churches
are always raising money
811
00:48:37,653 --> 00:48:42,093
and trying to do what we can
to help them.
812
00:48:42,223 --> 00:48:47,185
It's just incomprehensible to me
how it could have happened.
813
00:48:47,315 --> 00:48:51,319
And how-- how could
the whole world be silent?
814
00:48:58,196 --> 00:49:00,894
The Armenian Genocide
Memorial in Yerevan
815
00:49:01,025 --> 00:49:04,637
is an extraordinary place.
816
00:49:04,767 --> 00:49:08,119
It's a monument
set in a plateau,
817
00:49:08,249 --> 00:49:13,254
looking out at hills and sky.
818
00:49:13,385 --> 00:49:16,344
And the designers of it
819
00:49:16,475 --> 00:49:18,520
orchestrated
the museum and monument
820
00:49:18,651 --> 00:49:23,264
so that you had to
walk down a long path,
821
00:49:23,395 --> 00:49:25,527
a kind of mourning path,
822
00:49:25,658 --> 00:49:29,749
with poplar trees
flanking the sides.
823
00:49:29,879 --> 00:49:31,794
It's a large environment.
824
00:49:31,925 --> 00:49:33,274
There are these gorgeous,
825
00:49:33,405 --> 00:49:36,495
powerful twin obelisks
826
00:49:36,625 --> 00:49:39,106
that define the space.
827
00:49:39,237 --> 00:49:43,806
And then there's
the center of the memorial,
828
00:49:43,937 --> 00:49:48,550
with 12 basalt slabs to signify
829
00:49:48,681 --> 00:49:53,903
the 12 provinces
of historic Armenia.
830
00:49:54,034 --> 00:49:56,080
And you really brood
on the meaning
831
00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:58,473
of the Armenian genocide
when you're there.
832
00:49:58,604 --> 00:50:03,391
It's a unique space, and
everyone should encounter it.
833
00:50:08,396 --> 00:50:11,530
The Genocide Memorial
was one of our last stops,
834
00:50:11,660 --> 00:50:16,883
and I don't know if anything
has hit me as hard as that has.
835
00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:19,929
I think that was one of the
most sort of profound moments
836
00:50:20,060 --> 00:50:22,671
of my life.
837
00:50:22,802 --> 00:50:26,066
There is a wall of all these
cities and towns and villages
838
00:50:26,197 --> 00:50:28,895
that were directly hit
by the genocide
839
00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:31,158
that had the most casualties.
840
00:50:31,289 --> 00:50:34,161
And my dad is from a town
called Sebastia, or Sivas.
841
00:50:34,292 --> 00:50:37,251
Sivas is, I think,
the American translation for it.
842
00:50:37,382 --> 00:50:40,994
And the moment I saw that,
I just remember
843
00:50:41,125 --> 00:50:44,215
just being very overwhelmed
with emotion.
844
00:50:44,345 --> 00:50:48,088
I hope people who visit
the Tsitsernakaberd memorial,
845
00:50:48,219 --> 00:50:51,483
it reminds them
about preventing,
846
00:50:51,613 --> 00:50:54,834
about taking a stand
against any genocides
847
00:50:54,964 --> 00:50:59,447
and preventing that
kind of calamity and tragedy
848
00:50:59,578 --> 00:51:02,929
to happen again.
849
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:05,627
There are times when I think
850
00:51:05,758 --> 00:51:10,110
I have the emotional depth
of a rock.
851
00:51:10,241 --> 00:51:13,853
The first time I went to
the Armenian Genocide Memorial,
852
00:51:13,983 --> 00:51:15,333
the facade was gone.
853
00:51:15,463 --> 00:51:16,986
I was a mess.
854
00:51:17,117 --> 00:51:22,296
You stand at the memorial
with the flame,
855
00:51:22,427 --> 00:51:27,040
and you realize that you are
a part of a historical continuum
856
00:51:27,171 --> 00:51:31,175
that somebody
once tried to obliterate.
857
00:51:34,178 --> 00:51:36,005
I went on April 24th,
858
00:51:36,136 --> 00:51:40,271
and I walked with--
859
00:51:40,401 --> 00:51:43,012
I don't know how many people
were around me,
860
00:51:43,143 --> 00:51:46,407
but I just--
surrounded by people.
861
00:51:46,538 --> 00:51:50,019
It felt like a pilgrimage for me
to walk toward this monument.
862
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:52,021
In the middle,
there's this flame
863
00:51:52,152 --> 00:51:54,111
that's burning
that won't go out.
864
00:51:54,241 --> 00:51:56,287
And that's what you think of.
865
00:51:56,417 --> 00:51:58,245
You just never want to forget.
866
00:51:58,376 --> 00:52:01,292
You never want to forget.
You never want to forget.
867
00:52:01,422 --> 00:52:05,339
I want everyone to know
what happened to the Armenians.
868
00:52:05,470 --> 00:52:07,776
We're walking there,
and we get up to the top,
869
00:52:07,907 --> 00:52:12,129
and there are flowers
870
00:52:12,259 --> 00:52:15,088
like 2 to 3 feet high
871
00:52:15,219 --> 00:52:17,308
off of the bottom
of the memorial.
872
00:52:17,438 --> 00:52:20,006
Everyone's just putting
the flowers around the flame.
873
00:52:22,269 --> 00:52:26,273
And a little girl
says to her dad,
874
00:52:26,404 --> 00:52:30,756
"Papa, are there as many flowers
as people died?"
875
00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:36,544
And he says, "No.
876
00:52:36,675 --> 00:52:40,505
They're-- No, not at all.
Don't worry. No.
877
00:52:40,635 --> 00:52:42,681
Way more flowers
than people died."
878
00:52:45,771 --> 00:52:49,383
And I lost it because the answer
was, "Yes and more." Right?
879
00:52:49,514 --> 00:52:52,125
Way more people died
than the flowers.
880
00:52:55,476 --> 00:52:59,263
I grew up with a grandmother
881
00:52:59,393 --> 00:53:02,135
who was a survivor
of the genocide,
882
00:53:02,266 --> 00:53:04,703
a child survivor,
who only knew her name
883
00:53:04,833 --> 00:53:08,228
because she was grabbed off
her mother's lap as a child,
884
00:53:08,359 --> 00:53:10,709
and her mother
screamed her name.
885
00:53:10,839 --> 00:53:14,191
And she lived her whole life
886
00:53:14,321 --> 00:53:17,629
knowing that she didn't know
if she had anybody in the world
887
00:53:17,759 --> 00:53:19,718
except her daughter,
my mother, and us.
888
00:53:22,677 --> 00:53:25,419
There was nothing I could do
889
00:53:25,550 --> 00:53:30,163
to make her pain
lighter or better.
890
00:53:30,294 --> 00:53:32,470
My solution has been
891
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,822
that I need to make a corner
of the world better.
892
00:53:36,952 --> 00:53:39,172
Why not my corner?
893
00:53:39,303 --> 00:53:41,435
Armenia is important for us
for so many reasons.
894
00:53:41,566 --> 00:53:44,830
Because the diaspora outside
895
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,573
can't survive without
a connection to the homeland.
896
00:53:48,703 --> 00:53:51,315
Um, the language
is being lost already.
897
00:53:51,445 --> 00:53:53,839
Our connection to heritage
through assimilation
898
00:53:53,969 --> 00:53:55,362
is happening already.
899
00:53:55,493 --> 00:53:57,495
So we need the land
900
00:53:57,625 --> 00:53:59,888
because that's the original land
that we had,
901
00:54:00,019 --> 00:54:03,022
but we also need the land
because of a connection to it.
902
00:54:03,152 --> 00:54:04,937
To see Armenia as a country
grow and prosper
903
00:54:05,067 --> 00:54:07,200
makes all Armenians happy.
904
00:54:07,331 --> 00:54:10,421
It's not just something
that we grew up dreaming about.
905
00:54:10,551 --> 00:54:13,989
It's actually a place that we go
and populate and visit.
906
00:54:17,341 --> 00:54:20,039
It's very hard
to hold the Armenians down
907
00:54:20,169 --> 00:54:23,390
because we are stubborn
908
00:54:23,521 --> 00:54:26,219
and we work very hard
and we're very smart.
909
00:54:26,350 --> 00:54:29,091
I mean, it's been said
many times by Armenians,
910
00:54:29,222 --> 00:54:30,963
and I am an Armenian chauvinist.
911
00:54:31,093 --> 00:54:34,053
I can't really do anything about
it, 'cause facts are facts.
912
00:54:34,183 --> 00:54:37,970
But given what
an incredibly small percentage
913
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:40,668
of the world's population
we are,
914
00:54:40,799 --> 00:54:44,019
uh, those of us
with Armenian ancestry,
915
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:46,674
it's incredible
the mark we've made
916
00:54:46,805 --> 00:54:48,850
on the world between music,
917
00:54:48,981 --> 00:54:51,549
inventions, art,
all these things.
918
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:53,507
We have a big footprint
in the world.
919
00:54:53,638 --> 00:54:55,422
And that's something
to be proud of!
920
00:54:55,553 --> 00:54:56,902
And I am proud of it!
921
00:55:58,703 --> 00:55:59,443
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