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[man 1]
What the [bleep] is that?

Wow!

As I was filming this,
I was coming up

with explanations for what
this could possibly be.

But I don't understand
what it could have been.

-So weird.
I mean, it is so weird.
-[man 2] Yeah.

We went to an event
to make contact
with extraterrestrials.

There was many different
moving lights coming in
and out of that area.

I was like,
what the F is that?

[man] What?

[cheering]

I saw things
I couldn't explain
happening in the sky.

What the [bleep]?
Are you looking
at the same thing?

My friends were
freaking out with me.

-Oh [bleep]. Oh my God.
-[screaming]

[woman] I see it again.

I see it. I see it.

[man] Oh my God. Holy [bleep]!

You gotta see this.

[narrator] Around the world,
people are witnessing
and capturing

unexplained phenomena
every day.

There's a feeling you get.

The hairs on your arms and
your neck kind of stand up.

[man]
What the [bleep] is that?

There was a lot that pointed
me in the direction of
something non-human.

[woman]
Oh, [bleep]. There it goes.

[man speaking]

[narrator] And they
are looking for answers.

It left me with
a lot of questions.

[narrator] The recent release
of thousands of pages

of declassified
US Government documents,

whistleblower testimony...

[CDR. Fravor]
These objects had been
observed for over two weeks,

coming down
from over 80,000 ft.

[narrator]
...and shocking new evidence
could hold the answer.

Can you confirm
that's what it was?

Yes, that's what it was.

[narrator] Now, two expert
investigators will use
this new information

and their expertise
to unlock the truth.

I'm experiencing
chills over here.

[narrator] Mitch Horowitz
is an author and historian

known for his
investigative research

into the unexplained.

You all have had some
very mysterious experiences.

The video is
extremely compelling.

[narrator] And Chrissy Newton
is a journalist

and authority
on space, science,

and the unknown.

And we were told that
this was a secret location?

Absolutely.

When I looked up,
I saw a UFO in the sky.

[narrator] Thousands
of experiencers

came forward and submitted
their personal stories

and evidence for examination.

These beings were so
so gloriously beautiful.

[narrator] Hoping to finally
separate fact from fiction.

[Mitch] Based on everything
you've brought to the table...

you witnessed a UFO.

[Mitch] The thing
I love about Roswell

and The Variety
is that you never know

who's gonna come
walking through the door

and what their story
is gonna be.

[Chrissy] Yeah.
You never know.

We've had abductions.

We've had USOs.

We've had all different
types of cases.

-Hey.
-Hey, hey.

Welcome, Tim.
Good to have you here.

Thank you.
Thanks for having me.

[Mitch] Where is home?
Where are you coming from?

I'm coming from Oregon.

Okay. We're gonna have
some questions for you,
of course.

And to kick things off, please
tell us what transpired.

[Tim] My name is Tim Seanor.

I'm from Salem, Oregon,
and I'm a filmmaker.

As a filmmaker, I go out
in the field and document
anything outside the mundane.

I've gone to hot spots
all over the country in an RV

with all of my tech and gear,
and sometimes I'm looking

for lights in the sky, but I'm
hearing bumps in the woods.

You have to be
prepared for anything.

On July 29th of 2023,
my team and I were at
Moon Lake in the Uinta Basin,

to investigate the area
for a Bigfoot event.

My team and I decided to break
off and go down to the lake

to capture some evidence
of what we could see
in the skies.

So we had been there
for a while.

We had all of our gear set up.

We had Kraken radar,
multi-spectrum camera
and IR camera.

And then we started getting
hits on some of our detectors.

One of these devices
is called a muon detector,

and muons are
little forms of energy.

And when we get
extra hits of this,
we consider that energy

that's coming
from the phenomenon.

We were searching the skies
and at around 1:00 am,

we captured something
that I've never seen before.

We still don't know
exactly what this is.

[man] Hey,
you've got to see this.

You've got to see this.

You have got to see this.

All of a sudden,
we detect a beam of light
coming from the sky.

Now it was not visible
to the naked eye.

It was only visible with
the multi-spectrum camera.

It wasn't moving
and it stayed static.

[man] It's
so weird.

I mean, it is so weird.

I don't know what it is.

And it wasn't coming
all the way, from the sky,
all the way down,

like from space.

It seemed to be coming
from maybe around

where you would see cloud
and it was coming down

to about 200 feet
off the ground.

[man] What the
[bleep] is that? Wow.

[Tim] As I was filming this,
I was coming up

with explanations for
what this could possibly be.

I don't understand
what it could have been.

[man] That is
the weirdest thing
I've ever seen, though.

My gosh, you guys.

If I found out today

that this video was
of something mundane,

I would be
in complete disbelief.

I've been chasing
the phenomenon all of my life.

And hopefully we're able
to get some answers.

It must have been
a remarkable thing to witness.

-It was.
-You captured
very clear footage of it.

What is it you're hoping to
gain from this exchange today?

I would like to find out
exactly what it was,

because at this point I have
nothing but more questions.

You came to the right place.

Chrissy and her team
of researchers have

performed a full analysis
of the video evidence

-that you sent in, and...
-Excellent.

-[Mitch] ...I'm eager to hear
what she found.
-Me too. Excellent.

[narrator] Tim Seanor
submitted a 43-minute long
video of a vertical

light beam that he recorded
with specialty cameras
on July 19th, 2023.

The first thing we do
is cross reference date,
time and location

with ADS-B, satellite, ISS
and lots of like
rocket launch data to see

if we have any
cross correlations of data.

We didn't find any
comparable data as well.

That's definitely the same
information I came up with

that there was no mundane
explanation right off the bat
from any existing data.

The other thing I look for
is testimony.

How many people were with you?

So all six of our team members

that were there on location
got a chance to view this.

And you were using
night vision, right?

What type of night vision
were you using?

-Multi spectrum camera--
-[Chrissy] Colored
night vision?

Yeah. The color night vision
is what we were
able to capture it with.

Dave Mason
is a satellite expert.

He does advance imaging,
and he looked at this video

and said that
the apparent colors
may not be the actual colors.

Could it possibly turn into
some kind of false coloring?

There's no way in really
determining the color of...

of what we were actually
filming because it is
a color night vision

-optic system.
-Right.

Dave does say that
the laser in the video

was mostly visible
when it was within the clouds.

The clouds comprising
of water droplets,

refracts the laser light
in 360° emissions.

We would see clouds pass
through it, if you will,
but the beam stayed firm.

So. Take a look at these.

What do you see here?
Just so...

So these are the images
that we took.

And this is an example
of some LiDAR technology.

I'm imagining from Dave Mason.

Yeah.

[narrator] LiDAR
is a technology that uses
laser pulses

from a drone or other
airborne system

to generate exact,
three dimensional mapping
of the Earth's surface.

After analyzing Tim's video,

Chrissy's team believes
that he captured

a satellite LiDAR system
flying over Utah.

It doesn't exactly match
what I'm seeing in my video.

The contention I have here

is that satellite
tracking moves.

Our film shows that the beam
doesn't move at all
for over 35 minutes.

This couldn't be any kind
of satellite mapping.

You are an excellent witness.

You have solid tech.
I would have to say,

you witnessed a...

I started to see just
dots appearing.

[man] What?

I was like,
what the F is that?

[Tim] We captured something
that I've never seen before.

[man] You've got to see this.

Perhaps it was an alien craft

beaming something down.

[man] That is the weirdest
thing I've ever seen, though.

Oh, my gosh, you guys!

I don't understand
what it could have been.

The contention I have here

is that satellite
tracking moves.

Our film shows that the beam
doesn't move at all

for over 35 minutes.

[man] Hey, you've got
to see this.

You gotta see this.

You have got to see this.

And this couldn't be
any kind of satellite mapping.

[Chrissy] Dave Mason
says here,

"There is no mystery to lasers
apparently stopping at clouds

it's just optical physics."

So could you see it
from the naked eye?

-No.
-Okay, so only
through night vision,

you can see
that type of LiDAR laser

because it's in ultraviolet.

So that would explain why
you couldn't see it visibly.

But you could see it
through the lens.

-[Tim] Yeah.
-[Chrissy] That makes sense.

So Dave Mason says
that he's 99% sure that
it's a satellite LiDAR laser.

Tim, the way I come
to my conclusion is by looking
at a variety of factors.

The history of the area,
the nature of the witness,

whether the most mundane
possibilities can be ruled out

and the Uinta Basin
probably ranks
just slightly behind Roswell

in terms of strange phenomena.

[narrator] The Uinta Basin
in Utah,

where Tim's encounter
was captured,
has a reputation

of being a hotbed
of paranormal activity,

with reports dating back
decades of sightings and
unexplained phenomena.

Local lore and Native American
legends of Skinwalkers

has contributed
to the basin's mystique,

drawing both enthusiasts
and skeptics, to what has
been dubbed UFO Alley.

You are an excellent witness.

You have solid tech.

You're a very ethical witness.

And based on
having looked at imagery

from these kinds
of satellites before,

Tim, I would have to say...

my judgment is...

you witnessed
a topography satellite.

This is not a UFO.

If I had gotten confirmation
from this team that this was
something otherworldly,

that would have been
a game changer for me.

It definitely tells me
that I'm on the right track

and that I'm using
the right technology

to potentially search
for the phenomenon.

So today is not our day
in terms of finding that
golden piece of evidence.

No, not yet.
Although this looks amazing,

-like it's really compelling--
-It's visually compelling.

Yeah, the video
is extremely compelling.

We're gonna see more and more
of these questions

even among experienced
seekers like Tim.

Although I got
an answer of "no" today,

I am definitely going to be
continuing my endeavors.

And it's literally just going
to be a matter of time

until somebody
gets that video.

Hey, how's it going?

-Hey, how you doing?
-Nice to meet you.

My never ending commitment

to exploring unknown phenomena
is fueled by my passion
for the truth.

I saw four figures.

All tall, humanoid, you know,
And I freaked out,
and I'm like,

it definitely wasn't human,
and it definitely
wasn't an animal.

But I don't know
what I just saw.

I find myself telling people
again and again,
that whatever terms

we use, flying saucer, greys,
these are all placeholders

for events that human beings
have been recording

literally since there
have been human beings.

You know, that light
was so bright

that I couldn't tell
anything around it.

But I could see the inside.

And it was,
there was nothing in it.

You could see the inside?

Yeah, I could see the inside.

-Looked like it was a light
on the inside.
-Right.

All of these stories
contain encounters

with strange beings,
otherworldly phenomena.

Over the course of centuries,
our language changes.

But our experiences
remain constant.

I mean, just this
huge bright white light.

Not making any sound.

It came down under the clouds.

I feel like I could have
picked up a rock
and just tossed it and hit it.

That's how low it went.

Somebody might have
used the word goblin

in the 19th century,
today we use the word Bigfoot.

Somebody might have
described something

as a mysterious airship
in the pre-industrial era,

today we use words
like flying saucer.

Your grandfather records
having witnessed foo fighters

in the Second World War,
is that right?

Yeah, he was on a bomber crew
one time and piloted it,

and a craft came directly
at him and ended up
on their wingtip.

Kind of mimicked him.
Him and six of his crew,
saw it.

Took pictures,
were debriefed afterwards,

everything taken
and told not to talk about it.

That's real history.
That's real history.

We mustn't get confused
or hung up

about what other terms
are popular
in this or that generation.

We're having
a historical conversation,

and it's remarkably
similar to some

of the mysteries
that were plumbed
by our most ancient ancestors.

Right here in Roswell.

-Right here in Roswell.
-Who would have thunk it.

[Chrissy chuckles] Yeah.

I love the artwork
in this place.

[Mitch] Yeah.

This is a great place.

It's untouched by any
kind of marketing.

[Chrissy] Yeah.
This is the hot spot.

-Hi.
-[Mitch] How you doing?

[Chrissy] Welcome both.

Well, we're very grateful
to have y'all here.

-Thank you. We're excited.
-And let me give you an idea

of what we're gonna
accomplish today.

We have your account,
and the evidence
that that you submitted,

but we wanted
to ask you first,

tell us exactly
what it was that you saw.

Well, we don't know
exactly what it was,

but we can tell you that
we had an incredible
experience that night.

[Rachel]
My name is Rachel Jameson.

[Michael]
My name is Michael Sobolewski
and I am Rachel's fiance.

We live together
in Sedona, Arizona.

Our relationship began
almost seven years ago.

And we started having
experiences in Sedona,

seeing different types of UFOs
and weird things in the sky.

This experience was
not of this world.

Somehow I still get
even more goosebumps,

and some part of me is
just like still, I don't know.

We went to an event,
which is kind of a
meditational focused intention

to make contact
with extraterrestrials.

Not long after,
it was totally dark,

and we really kind of
officially began
the sighting period.

-[radio crackling]
-[Michael] Mark the time.

[Rachel] Did you hear that?

[Michael] We started to see
in a small section of the sky,

there was many
different moving lights

coming in and out
of that area.

I started to see
just dots appearing.

And they were appearing,
if you can imagine,
at a 45° slant.

I was like,
what the F is that?

Some other people
turned around.

And then, what is that?

[man] What?

[indistinct shouting]

[Chrissy] What we found
within that region

on the same date,
time and location...

We came to the conclusion...

We went to an event,
which is kind of a
meditational focused intention

to make contact
with extraterrestrials.

I started to see
just dots appearing.

And they're appearing,
if you can imagine,
at a 45° slant.

I was like,
what the F is that?

Some other people
turned around.

And then, what is that?

[man] What?

[indistinct shouting]

[Michael] These were from
the brightness of a satellite
to the brightness of a star.

And some fluctuated.

Some you could see
and then they would
just disappear.

Some fade out.

Now, this is not
real high on the sky

like the satellites.

-This is low.
-[Rachel] It's low.
This is in the atmosphere.

[Michael] This is like,
plane height.

And so we're all cheering
and we're watching them
slowly move past us.

[man] That's insane.

There are so many.

[woman] They're fading out
right up there at the end.

-[man] It's like one...
-[woman] There they go.

[man counting] ...five, six,
seven, eight, nine, ten,
eleven, twelve, thirteen.

[indistinct chatter]

[Michael] And the craziest
part about all of this

they don't fly off
into the atmosphere,

they don't fly away.

They reached a certain point
right in front of us,

and then, the lead one,
if you will, just disappeared.

They just started disappearing
one by one.

Whatever flew past us
and disappeared in front of us

was just
an unbelievable experience.

[Mitch] Thank you
for sharing your evidence.

Chrissy has analyzed

the materials
that you've submitted
with other researchers.

What do you hope to gain
from this exchange?

-We've done a lot, uh,
research on our own.
-Yeah.

-Definitely, yeah.
-[Rachel] We hope
to know the truth.

-We have to know
what it was. Yeah.
-We wanna know.

[narrator] Michael and Rachel
submitted 36 seconds
of video evidence

and photos for analysis

that were all captured
at the site of their encounter

on May 27th, 2023,
in Sedona, Arizona.

So the first thing I do
when I'm talking to people

that have any form
of alleged UAP experience

is to look at the date,
time and location.

So, you know that
Sedona has lots of sightings
of UFOs, right?

Yeah. Rachel and I have
had 20 or 30 experiences
over the last seven years.

Things that we've seen
in the sky
that we can't explain.

And so, um, yeah,
we're very aware of it.

The other thing I look for
is if it was a mass sighting.

How many people in the group
were with you?

We were, uh,
with a group of strangers.

[Michael] I'd say 60 people.

[Chrissy] Okay.

We have your testimony.

Now, let me give you
my analysis.

Awesome.

So, what we end up doing
is looking at air traffic data
and rocket launch data

to see if we can find
any comparables in the area.

We check to see
if what you saw

was either a plane
or potentially, a rocket.

So, when we looked at
the commercial aircraft
date and time,

there wasn't any aircrafts
in that area.

Sure. Yeah, it was
pretty clear that it wasn't
any of those things.

And then we also
ran some tests
on some satellite imaging

to see if anything was
consistent in that area.

I'm gonna show you
a few photos.

Is that similar to what
you might have saw?

No, I would say
that's way far away.

Something similar to this?

[tense music playing]

[Rachel] Mmm.

Some of 'em were similar,

as in like,
I think some of 'em
were of this shape.

But I don't think they
were so exactly apart.

[Chrissy] It was closer
to you, though?

-[Rachel] Uh-huh.
-[Michael] Oh, yeah.

[Chrissy] What we found
within that region

on the same date,
time and location...

when checking
all satellite databases,

we came to the conclusion

the video that you captured,

was from a May 19th
Starlink launch.

[suspenseful music playing]

[narrator] Starlink is
a satellite
internet constellation

developed by SpaceX

comprised of thousands
of small satellites
orbiting the Earth.

These satellites
move through the sky
in synchronized formation,

constantly adjusting
their position.

You're saying that...

-that what we were
videotaping was Starlink?
-Right. Right.

And what you're looking at
is a train of satellites.

What we ended up doing
was checking all of those
satellite databases.

-And we noticed that a launch
happened on May 19th 2023.
-[Michael] Mmm.

Starlink ends up
showing itself between
nine to ten days at times.

-[Michael] Mmm.
-[Chrissy] And so,
we did this analysis.

Starlink was visible
the same day and the same time

-and was over the same area
that you were located.
-[Michael] Oh, wow.

[Chrissy] And this matches
with the video
that you captured.

[suspenseful music playing]

Was there any information
provided about how

the, um, lights of Starlink,
that you say,

would have disappeared
right in front of us?

They weren't disappearing.

Oh, they definitely
disappeared in front of us.

That was one of the really
interesting things
we were hoping to have...

-[Rachel] For sure.
-...information about.

We actually did
a lot of research

-collectively about it.
-[Rachel] For sure.

And that was what
we all thought,
it was Starlink.

You said they
didn't disappear,
but they did.

Right. And we all
witnessed it.

They were there.
It's recorded.

You can hear people shouting,
"They're disappearing,
they're disappearing."

They didn't fly away.

[suspenseful music playing]

Chrissy's analysis
is impeccable.

I tend to look at these cases

as an aggregate, history,
culture, analysis.

But just speaking in terms
of the behavior of satellites,

when these satellites revolve,

they sometimes
appear to vanish.

-[Michael] Sure.
-[Mitch] Because they
might have one surface

that's reflecting light
from the sun
and as they turn around,

that reflection gets lost.

That's what's happening.

I have to defer to the data.

[suspenseful music playing]

This is not a UFO.

We're certainly skeptical
and, uh, we have our thoughts
about what it was.

-And you're real skeptics
because you question.
-[Rachel] Thank you very much.

-Which is what a skeptic
is supposed to do.
-[Michael] Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Chrissy] Thank you
very much, guys.

All right.
Wish you all the best.

-[Mitch] Thank y'all.
-[Chrissy] Bye.

[dramatic music playing]

We understand
that we're not experts
and we're not scientists.

That's the opinion
of their experts.

But it was
a little disappointing

that we didn't get
more professional evaluation
of our evidence.

This was a tough one for you
because your data
is hardcore.

I mean, you're basically
saying, "Water is wet."

-[Chrissy] Yeah.
-It's not an easy message
to deliver,

but you did it with aplomb.

They felt that it maybe
wasn't analyzed as thorough
as they wanted it to be,

but I know the team,
I know our analysts.

-They do an amazing job.
-[softly] Yeah.

And I think that
that satellite image
spoke for itself.

I don't think it's Starlink.

Rachel's is always right.

[man] I look up.

That's when I saw it.

What the [bleep]?

Are you looking
at the same thing?

My friends were
freaking out with me.

Holy [bleep]!

-[person screaming]
-[man] Oh, my God.

-Hey, how's it going, my man?
-Hello, Mitch.

-[Chrissy] Hi.
-Good to see you.

-How you doing? Mitch.
-Nice to meet you, Mitch.

-Nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you, Chrissy.

-Hey.
-Hey, hey. How's it going?
I'm Mitch.

-Myra. Nice to meet you.
-[Mitch] Mitch.

[Mitch] The evidence
we receive here at The Variety

isn't always as simple
as a photograph or a video.

-These are your
renderings, correct?
-[woman] Yes.

[Chrissy] Okay.

We received the paintings
which are extraordinary.

Strange things
have happened to me
as long as I can remember.

My paintings
are an abstract language

in order to communicate
those experiences.

[Mitch] Once in a while,
the evidence that comes in

is someone's interpretation
of what happened,

through a painting
or even journaling.

It wasn't till after
he had passed that I opened
my grandfather's journal

and realized he was having
the thought projections,

the remote viewing,
the visions.
The same things that I do.

What you are providing
goes to the very core
of the UFO experience.

Thank you. All right.

I'm grateful
for everything that happened

and being able to talk
with other people who
have had similar experiences

and let them know
that they're not crazy.

-I set a very high bar
for what crazy is.
-[man] Yeah.

You guys are not it.

-Thanks for being here.
I appreciate it.
-Yeah. Thank you.

-Thank you.
-Thank you.

[sci-fi music playing]

That's what artists do.

They show us maybe ourselves
and who we are as humans

on a canvas
or any form of art medium.

-Right on.
-Beautiful. Yeah.

Well, our next case.

-[Chrissy] Yeah.
-Yeah.

[suspenseful music playing]

-Well, this should
be exciting.
-I think so, Yeah.

I'm curious to see, like,
the way that
he expresses himself

when he's telling his story.

'Cause it's like a big tell.

Witness testimony
is like really important.

-Hey.
-[Mitch] Hey! My man.

Have a seat, please.

-Thank you. Thank you.
-Welcome.

So, let me tell you
what we're doing here today.

We already know
some of the basics
of your story,

but we wanna hear it
directly from you,

be certain that
there's nothing
that we haven't missed.

Afterwards, we are going
to turn it over to Chrissy

who has analyzed and consulted
with, uh, research experts

on some of the data
that you've submitted.

And that's gonna get us
to some concrete answers
for you.

Um, starting off,
you know, please tell us
what happened to you.

Where it was, when it was
and what you witnessed.

Okay, so...

[clears throat
then takes deep breath]

[Julian] My name
is Julian Lucas.

I saw things
I couldn't explain
happening in the sky.

The day was June 23rd, 2022.

I was at a music festival
in Bakersfield, California.

I was working with the event.

You know,
once my shift was done,

I was like, "I'm out of here.

I need to let loose
and have some fun
with my friends."

Headed back to camp.
Shower, changed.

Started having some drinks
and planning out our evening.

What stages we were
gonna go to.
What artists we wanted to see.

It was 8:21 in the evening.

Just after dusk,
the moon was out.

There were no clouds, either.
It was a clear,
beautiful night.

I look up.

-That's when I saw it.
-[suspenseful music playing]

I saw this orange orb

flying in the sky
at a very low orbit,
but a high rate of speed.

It was, you know, a disc,
bulging in the center.

And the entire outside
was chrome.

[man] This is
super unusual, right?

[Julian] My friends
were freaking out with me.

We're all just...
All at once just, "Oh!"

Holy [bleep]!

-[person screaming]
-[man] Oh, my God.

[Julian] Our camp,
next to the parking lot

was pretty busy.

And not only did the people
who were with me see it,

you can hear other people.

-[Julian] What the [bleep]?
-[person] Oh!

[man 2] Ah!

[Julian] Are you looking
at the same thing?

The lights on the craft
started to flicker.

The lights are, you know,
kind of flickering
and dimming.

-Look at it.
It's dimming, it's dimming.
-[woman] Yeah. Oh!

[Julian] Until it just...

vanished.

It's gone.

It's gone.

I'm not entirely sure
what I saw that night.

But I do know
that I witnessed something
extraordinary, unusual.

And hopefully today
I can get some answers.

Julian, you bring
a lot to the table
with regard to this sighting.

-You captured evidence
on video.
-[Chrissy] Mmm-hmm.

And you have
a large group of witnesses
that saw this with you.

That alone would tell us
that this is not just some
flight of imagination.

What do you want
in terms of your account?

Some deeper truths about
what we witnessed that night.

I'm not exactly sure
what it was.

You know,
I've always had questions
and, you know, a few doubts.

I consider myself
a pretty calm
and rational person.

I wanna deal with facts
and hard evidence,

you know, and that's why
I'm glad I have the video,

'cause the video
speaks for itself.

-You want answers
in the broadest sense.
-[Julian] Yeah.

Well, Chrissy has reviewed
your evidence

and I want
to turn it over to her

and see what findings
she has to report.

[Julian] Are you looking
at the same thing?

[narrator] Julian submitted
a 23-second long video

of an object
moving across the sky

that he filmed
in Bakersfield, California,
on June 3rd, 2022.

So one of the first things
we do is we look
at video and photo.

So, we have cellphone video.

[suspenseful music playing]

When we did
the video analysis,

we determined that
it wasn't faked

or it wasn't manipulated
in any way.

And then we get into
date, time and location
and we have that.

So, we look at ADS-B.

It's a data site
that we end up going
where we can track

different types
of planes, drones.

So we know where everything's
going when it comes
to flight patterns in the sky.

So, we did check that

and...

[suspenseful music playing]

...we didn't find anything.

Wow. Okay.

After reviewing ADS-B,

we do look at then, different
satellite patterns, too.

And...

[suspenseful music playing]

...we didn't find anything.

[inhales] Well,
that's not surprising.

It definitely wasn't
a satellite, way too low.

Way too close to the ground.

But...

[suspenseful music playing]

Your story had
a lot of solidity to it.

I believe...

You never know
what a Friday night

at The Variety Bar and Lounge
will produce.

This joint is called
The Variety

because of the variety
of people

who come and go
through its doors.

It seems like everyone
who walks through these doors

either has their own UFO story

or is tied
to the events of history
that made Roswell famous.

I mean,
your family was present
for a piece of history,

-whatever happened that day.
-Yeah. Yeah.

It's unbelievable.

You have approximately
the greatest job in history.

You could say that.
Uh, UAP reporter
for the Roswell Daily Record.

This is a place
of people talking openly

about the stories
that have made Roswell

into the central hub
of the era.

It was 8:21 in the evening.

I look up.

That's when I saw it.

What the [bleep]?

I saw this orange orb
flying in the sky

at a very low orbit,
but a high rate of speed.

Holy [bleep]!

-[person screaming]
-[man] Oh, my God.

And hopefully today
I can get some answers.

Because of the orange color,

it could potentially be...

[suspenseful music playing]

...the ISS.

[narrator] The International
Space Station

is the third brightest object
in the sky,
due to its massive size.

Most large satellites
are about the size
of a school bus,

while the ISS is larger than
an American football field.

Due to its far distance
from Earth,
the ISS is bathed in sunlight,

which reflects off its
enormous solar panel wings,

making it clearly stand out
in the night sky.

The solar panels are mounted
on brown colored film

and when the sunlight
reflects off of them,
they appear orange.

And that often causes
the station
to be misidentified as a UFO.

And it did fly over
the music festival.

Mmm.

Okay.

But...

[suspenseful music playing]

...it was an hour
after your sighting.

Okay.

I'm glad we can
check that box off.

That means that I definitely
didn't shoot the ISS.

Right.

I've seen the ISS.
It passes over my mom's house
in orbit in Ohio, so...

I mean, she gets all excited.

She's like, "Let's go outside,
watch the satellite."

And it's, you know,
just a little dot.

Like, "Cool, Mom.
Can we go back inside now?"

-[chuckles]
-Yeah, it's awesome.

And that's also something
that you can track.

So, I wanna
show you something.

[suspenseful music building]

[Chrissy] What do you
think this is?

Uh, looks a lot like
what I shot that night.

-I mean, you got
the orange orb and...
-[Chrissy] Yep.

[Julian] That's what I shot.

-The one on the top right,
that we're saying?
-[Julian] Yeah.

-This one. Like, this one.
-[Chrissy] The top left
for you. Okay.

That's it.

All of these photos,

these are what people reported
the same night
in the same location...

[dramatic music playing]

[Chrissy] ...that you saw
your sighting.

Ohhh! Just got chills.

[Mitch] I'll jump in.

[suspenseful music playing]

[Mitch] I've always felt,
Julian, that your story

had a lot of solidity to it.

Not only have you checked off
a number of the boxes,

you had the presence of mind
to gather evidence.

You had lots of witnesses.

Chrissy's analysis found
no other objects at that time.

There was no
identifiable air traffic.

I believe...

[suspenseful music playing]

...you witnessed a UFO.

[exhales in relief]

Wow. I don't know what to say.
I mean, thank you.

I feel relieved to know that,
you know, maybe I'm not
as crazy as I think I am.

Words can't describe
that confirmation,
you know, for me.

Not only have you contributed
to our research,

but you have also contributed
to the effort

to find the truth
for everyone out there
who's had these experiences.

Absolutely.

I will always fight
to find the truth.

As a friend of mine says,

"Keep punching
and don't let the cynics
take anything from you."

-[Chrissy] Yeah.
-[Mitch] Yeah.

Absolutely. Thank you.

-[Mitch] Thank you.
Great to have you, my man.
-Your friends a wise person.

-Yeah. Thank you both so much.
-All right.

-Thank you.
-Okay.

[Julian] I know
what I saw that night.

My friends know
what they saw that night.

It is a bulletproof case now.

The truth is unshakable.
It's undeniable.

These sightings,
these experiences,
they changed me.

I think I am a better person

and I think I am
a more interesting person
because it happened.

-I'm digging it here.
-Oh, my gosh.

-Stories are amazing,
climate is amazing.
-They are amazing.

-Yeah, now we have to-- Right?
-History is amazing.

I was filming these two
bright, gold colored objects,

and then, uh,
something gets ejected
out of one of 'em.

[suspenseful music playing]

I couldn't say for a fact,
but it could be something...

extraterrestrial.

I looked down
and the gauge went up.

I said, "Bro,
come check this out.
We got a signal of something."

[man] And what we pulled
out of the ground

was not at all
where it should have been.

[suspenseful music playing]

I want to know
if this piece of metal
is actually from outer space.

[man] Halt.
You are right on the edge
but it is fading away.

The team, when they went
to the area where
this cube or box was formed,

they completely disappeared
off our thermal.

Did they just disappear?

It's almost like
there were two realities.

There was a reality
of the meadow

that we were
used to seeing every day.

And then there was the reality
of the meadow
that they had stepped into.

That was quite amazing.