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Truthful, trippy, romantic,
revolutionary, hectic, heroic,
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and as close to the heart of the generation
as you can get.
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There's not very many pop videos
you can say that about
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and not be sent to hell.
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'Weekender' is a small glimpse
into that beginning of club culture.
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It absolutely represents an era
when we were all going out
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and it totally nails it.
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I just call it iconic.
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Just one word, iconic.
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It still gives me goose bumps
when I see it.
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'Weekender' it's just like 'Fantasia',
reminds me of 'Fantasia'.
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I would describe it as a mini...
mini masterpiece movie really.
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It gives me the feeling of five in the morning
after one of those parties.
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It's really the first proper meditation,
in a way, on the rave scene.
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It's the first artwork produced
about the rave scene.
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'Weekender' is not just a film.
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It's an important cultural artefact,
and it's one of the very...
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in some ways, one of the last
very genuine cultural statements
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that we've been allowed to make
in this country.
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Some films are a voice for people.
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Some... some films are.
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You see yourself in it
and you're given a voice.
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And I think if that happens to you
and you see something like that,
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it never leaves you, always remains
something very important to you.
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So it was... it was a wild time.
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And now, even thinking about it now,
I have to pinch myself
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that it really did happen.
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I suppose it's become... it's become
the legacy of Flowered Up.
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I had been playing drums
with Liam's younger brother
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in just a local estate band,
just jamming around with no real purpose.
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And his brother Joe,
who became the guitarist of Flowered Up
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and his friend Andy,
who was a bass player,
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they already had a drummer
who was much better than me.
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So I suggested it to Liam
after this gig
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that he became the singer
to this band,
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which the other three guys
would make up the rhythm section
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and I would manage
because I wasn't a very good drummer.
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The first time I clapped my eyes on Liam
I had no idea that he was in a group.
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But ten, 15 minutes later,
when Des told me that he was in a group,
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I thought, "Oh, my goodness."
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And then a couple of minutes later,
when he told me
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the group was called Flowered Up,
I thought, "Oh, shit, can I sign you?"
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And he said,
"Do you wanna hear something?"
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And I said, "Not really. I probably
just rather not and sign you anyway.
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"It'd be terrible if it was rubbish, but I
kind of get the feeling it's not going to be",
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because he had the face
of the times.
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He had the wardrobe of the times.
He was the face.
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I mean, as simple as that.
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I used to work with Factory Records
and I worked with Happy Mondays,
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and I worked with New Order,
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and that often got me into clubs
and... and opened a few doors for me.
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And it also got me hassled to fuck
by people wanting me
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to introduce them to Bez
or get them on the front page of the "NME".
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Des and Liam wanted both of those things
and I was actually quite happy to oblige.
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I got put in touch with Flowered Up
via a bloke called Andy Weatherall,
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God rest his soul.
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He'd heard through the grapevine
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that Flowered Up were looking
for a new keyboard player.
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So he put me forward
for the job.
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Nice little middle-class bloke
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ends up somewhere
in the depths of South London
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meeting these nutters
for the first time.
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Des was cheeky, funny,
charming... very naughty.
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And Liam was this cool kid.
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He was a wild fucking monkey,
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he was all over the place
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and an unbelievable frontman
and creative.
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This was kind of one of the first group
that really, certainly in London
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and London was a bit behind the times
in terms of bands.
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The club scene was fantastic,
but this was the first group
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that came along that was inspired
not only by the dancefloor,
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but also by what Happy Mondays
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and the Stone Roses
brought to the club.
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That night that I met Liam,
I went away
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and I wrote a manifesto in my mind
about how we do this.
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And the first thing was
first press, "Boy's Own",
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first gigs, in clubs.
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It wasn't rocket science,
but it was bloody exciting.
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So we got involved and we did a couple
of singles and things were going good.
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But you know,
we were making a lot of noise
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and the majors were constantly
sniffing around
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and I kind of knew that we weren't
gonna be able to keep them.
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Someone was gonna offer them
silly money and they did.
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There was this fantastic gig,
Shoreditch Town Hall,
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really, really brilliant, brilliant,
brilliant show.
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And... and that was it.
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Then London
just got the cheque book out.
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Quarter of a million quid, boom.
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Crazy, crazy, crazy money.
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They couldn't say no,
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whether or not they knew
they had to pay it back eventually
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in that it was an advance.
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Whether they cared about that,
I don't know.
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But yeah, that was it.
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It was only ever gonna end in tears.
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I was permanently scared.
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So off they went,
made a crap record with very poor guidance.
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But they weren't really paying
as much attention as they should have been.
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Gigs were great.
The record sadly wasn't.
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The gigs continued to be great
and the group were getting better, actually,
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But yeah, the album
was a damp squib.
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It didn't live up to hype and a lot of people
were out there to kick them.
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We got them on the cover of the "NME"
and the "Melody Maker"
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before a single came out.
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There was always this aura
of fucking danger, edge and energy
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surrounding Flowered Up.
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Going on tour with them
was quite an experience.
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They were pretty raucous.
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My role, more or less, was just to cause
as much chaos as I can.
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Yeah, they just liked to take risks,
all of them the entire time
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and just push the envelope as far
as they could with all sorts of behaviour.
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Well, what was it like?
It was just mental energy.
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We were untouchable, we thought.
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Lawless, bandits,
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and it just came naturally,
just going around causing chaos
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and I think it just carried on
from the football days.
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Flowered Up were a real
contradiction to their name, weren't they?
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Despite all that,
they were actually just such great guys,
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really lovely, really lovely blokes.
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And they really looked after me
on tour.
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They were one of us.
They went to the raves,
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they went to the parties, they went
and bought tickets with everyone else.
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They wore the same clothes.
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They drunk bottles of water
the same way we drunk it.
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So when they made a record,
the record they made was out of reality.
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Liam and me, I suppose, cos we'd been
out clubbing for quite a while
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up until that point, we literally were out
for seven nights a week
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for about two years solid,
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and... and as every sort of scene
or whatever, it gets diluted down,
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it becomes more media-led
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and then it's less and less underground
and things like that.
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It becomes... it loses
its kind of special sort of thing
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it had at the beginning.
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The end of '87 up to about '92
when it started...
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all of that sort of scene changed,
was just fantastic.
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Everyone was so friendly,
was so nice.
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A mixture of people back then.
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You're going out with in clubs
with lawyers
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and it'd be lawyers and doctors
and nurses and firemen,
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just every walk of life.
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It was just, "Hey, do you want
some of my Ribena?"
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Small clubs,
dry ice, anonymity
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and just other people allowing other people
to express themselves
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without laughing or sniggering.
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'Weekender' lyrically...
and maybe musically as well,
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was a response to the dilution
of the acid house scene
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that we'd experienced
leading up to that point.
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Back then,
when all this was going on,
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there was a real rejection
of formality, of corporations.
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It was still the time
of Margaret Thatcher,
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so it was very oppressive
and depressing and...
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...politically and culturally, I think acid house
was a little crack of light in the sky,
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a little bit of colour that cut through
the grey clouds of Thatcherism.
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That horrible
British class system,
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which I think possibly has gone back
to being what it was before that period.
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But for a time there was partying,
specially within the rave scene,
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and people were mixing with each other
from all walks of life.
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All of a sudden, people who had
normal, everyday jobs
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stopped doing those in order
to get into doing music related stuff.
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And we were sort of steering away
from all of that corporation type entertainment
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because we were creating
our own entertainment.
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So it was a really good time,
when all my friends and people I knew
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who were like-minded were actually
getting involved
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in setting up record companies,
running club nights,
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doing club promotions, deejaying,
getting in the studio.
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I opened my shop
on something that was called
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the Enterprise Allowance Scheme,
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where the government used to give you
?200 a month to start a business.
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This was Maggie Thatcher,
when Maggie Thatcher came in.
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And suddenly
there was ?200 a month.
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We were just like,
"We're entrepreneurs now!"
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It was like this crazy, liberating,
and kind of hedonistic
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and kind of dark and light,
a wild time.
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For us, Black kids,
especially the London clubs
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they'd almost have a quota.
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"We've already got six, that's enough.
Sorry, no one else is coming in."
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So the whole rare groove culture
was very much a part
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of the Black music scene
in London.
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It taught us
how to get around the law,
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how to ignore the law
and to do our own parties.
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We all came together
and we all came together,
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got sweaty together with ecstasy,
in ecstasy, on ecstasy.
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This was also taking place
at a time of real change in Britain,
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where you had the de-industrialisation,
mass unemployment
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and working class people particularly
not really finding a place in the world
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and then suddenly you've become part
of this, not just national,
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but international brotherhood
and sisterhood.
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You felt alive and you felt
that anything was possible
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and you felt just like...
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Every Saturday night
was the best night of your life.
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I think there was a feeling
that you could be freer,
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wild at the weekend, that you could be
anything you wanted to be.
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Before acid house, there was
a kind of gender apartheid almost
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and I never really got to know
my mates' girlfriends and wives and all that
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until acid house and we went out.
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I suddenly found out
that some of my mates' wives and girlfriends
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were far, far more interesting
than my mates.
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I could dress
like a naughty St. Trinian's girl,
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always one of my vibes, but I was always
non-sexualized in my head.
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I was just expressing who I was
and nobody would lay a finger on me.
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It was a moment of optimism
and it did seem like a lot of music
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made by new bands
was becoming very popular.
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You just have to watch
these "Top of the Pops",
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they're repeating "Top of the Pops"
at the moment.
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And the difference between
a "Top of the Pops" from 1990
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and a "Top of the Pops"
from 1987 or 1988
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is just another world and it was
much more exciting for young people, I think,
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to see people like themselves
on stage performing
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or making records and so on.
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'And a new entry at number 34,
Flowered Up and "Take It".
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'This next band is a new name to us all,
Flowered Up have their debut "Take It",
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'a new entry at 34.'
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You know, if you're good
at something you can make it look easy.
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So we must've been good
at what we did.
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And then the influence
and all the kids that would go,
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"Oh, look, well, they can do it,
we can do it."
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I must have got a call from someone.
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And you know, "Are you interested
in redoing one track from the first album?"
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And I listened to it and it kind of fitted
into the Madness sensibility inside me.
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And I said yes.
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To be honest,
I was pretty scared of meeting them.
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Yeah, I did spend a lot of the time
worried that I'd end up in a police cell.
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On the first session at West Side,
which is a studio we had in West London,
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I had a couple of Es in my pocket,
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and so when Des walked in,
I said, "Do you want half an E?"
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But I just wanted them to know
everything was fine.
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All of a sudden Liam
had come to me and said,
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"We've got this thing now,
but it's like a 40-minute jam."
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And I think literally all he had
was like the "Weekender" refrain,
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"Go out, have a good time."
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They came to West Side
and we're doing "Crackerjack".
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We did a reasonable version.
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But when we came to the end
of that session,
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probably a two day session,
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they were just jamming
and they'd just jammed this song.
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Somewhere on tape
exists like, this 20-minute epic version
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of "Weekender" of just us jamming
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when they were just setting
all the equipment up around us.
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"Woah! Now we're talking.
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"Let's... if we're allowed to,
let's do that."
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We got it down to 12 minutes 53
for the vinyl.
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And that's as short as it could be
and still make sense.
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Seemingly out of nowhere,
bang, came this tune.
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It was like a present,
the musicality was really good.
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Then the lyric over the top,
it was just... it was an adventure.
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Like, "Fuck, yeah!"
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It was kind of quite a strange time
that post-rave scene,
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in that straight up rock 'n' roll bands
didn't have much reference to a lot of people.
251
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And I thought this song came along
and it was a really nice marriage of the two.
252
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It's definitely not like punk
or post-punk.
253
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It's quite '90s, late '80s kind of rock,
stadium kind of rock,
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except with a working class urchin
from Camden singing about his life.
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With Liam doing his sort of rapping,
poetic, talking, speech thing,
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I mean, that was fresh!
257
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We realised
we had something unique
258
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because obviously
this wasn't gonna be a top 20 record.
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It was gonna be a great critically
acclaimed piece of music,
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but wasn't gonna sell bucketloads,
261
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and it wasn't gonna get us
on "Top of the Pops".
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We weren't concerned with that.
263
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But London Records,
their inevitable response was,
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"How are we gonna edit it
to three and a half minutes?"
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Des was like, "They don't fucking get it."
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I was like, "They don't get it?"
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"Nah, it's too long to go on the radio."
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I go, "Who gives a fuck?"
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That voice, the energy, the power,
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but the musicianship,
the production, the arrangement,
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it's fucking got street classical choirs.
272
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It's got... it's just got everything!
273
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When a group
makes a bad debut record
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it's pretty damn hard
to come back from,
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but to follow it with something
so magnificent and such a statement as that.
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I want a part of that.
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So I was like, "All right,
tell London to fuck off, right,
278
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"and come back to Heavenly."
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I can't remember the intricacies
of what happened,
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but we managed
by way of Columbia stepping in.
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We managed to get out
of the London Records deal
282
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and the record was able to be released
on Columbia Records
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but appearing on the Heavenly label.
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Sticking to our guns
with Des and Liam,
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I think having that ability to tell people
to just fuck off,
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"We're doing
what we wanna do",
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compared to let's say,
a group like Blur.
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If they'd done something like that,
289
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the record company would say,
"Oh, no, you can't do it."
290
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"OK, yeah."
They would have caved in.
291
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I said, "We're gonna make a film.
292
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"This is gonna be a film,
we've got to back up this track.
293
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"We have got to make this
a statement too,
294
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"you need a label
to make a statement here."
295
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We had a deal at the time
with Sony
296
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and the guy we were dealing with
was Rob Stringer
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and Rob shared our enthusiasm.
298
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Jeff Barrett and the rest of the guys
on Heavenly, Martin...
299
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they had the balls to sort of
take the band back on and push it.
300
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We'd already worked
with a guy called WIZ
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on a previous single
called "Take It".
302
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It was probably our best
and most accomplished promo to date.
303
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He was coming
out of the culture,
304
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he was involved in the culture,
he was going to clubs.
305
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He liked bands like Primal Scream
or Flowered Up,
306
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or the Mondays or the Roses.
307
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He was friends with people
like Weatherall, Jeff Barrett,
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so I think it was very important
that the director had to be somebody
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who was of the scene
and who was young and who was living it.
310
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One night
we'd been to the Diorama.
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I'd left the venue
and I was trying to get a cab home.
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I was stood on the side of the road
waiting for a taxi
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to take me down the Euston Road
to Shepherd's Bush.
314
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Instead, I got a pimped up Mini
with WIZ in the driver's seat.
315
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Like that.
316
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"Do you want a lift home?"
I was going, "Actually, I do.
317
00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:44,966
"And this is fortuitous, this is good.
I've got something I want to play you."
318
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So I sat WIZ down
and I turned the lights off.
319
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I gave him a drink,
maybe a cup of tea, I don't know,
320
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but sat him there,
right between the speakers,
321
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I flicked the lights off
and I buggered off to the kitchen
322
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and I played an acetate,
323
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I put acetate of the track for him,
324
00:24:03,401 --> 00:24:07,822
and soon as I could tell that it had finished,
I opened the door,
325
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flicked the light back on
and I said, "And?"
326
00:24:10,074 --> 00:24:11,868
He's going, "I've got it.
327
00:24:13,911 --> 00:24:17,790
"I know exactly what you're looking for,
I know exactly what to do here."
328
00:24:18,499 --> 00:24:21,961
It could have been a load of people
dancing around in the field.
329
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I mean, that would have been fine.
330
00:24:26,591 --> 00:24:34,682
But the fact that it went right into your psyche
and into your imagination,
331
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which was amazing.
332
00:24:36,809 --> 00:24:41,481
It looks fantastic,
it tells a story. It's a film, not a video.
333
00:24:41,606 --> 00:24:47,153
It's... I think people approach it
as curio, "What is this?"
334
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And have their socks blown off.
335
00:24:49,197 --> 00:24:54,327
It was about discarding
your sort of regular, mundane lives
336
00:24:54,452 --> 00:25:01,876
and going out and becoming
the thing you aspired to be,
337
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you wished you were or...
basically living a fantasy really.
338
00:25:08,007 --> 00:25:13,221
It's a kind of
social realist rave film,
339
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in the way that "Quadrophenia"
was a social realist mod film.
340
00:25:19,393 --> 00:25:22,855
The acid house culture
was very much influenced
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by mod culture in London.
342
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You see it very much
grew out of that...
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"Whatever work we do
during the day,
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"we're kings for the weekend,
we're queens for the weekend."
345
00:25:35,117 --> 00:25:36,244
But it needs
to be remembered
346
00:25:36,369 --> 00:25:40,998
that "Quadrophenia"
was actually shot in 1980
347
00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:45,294
and that was a long time
after the beginning of the whole mod scene,
348
00:25:45,419 --> 00:25:46,462
which is what it was about.
349
00:25:46,587 --> 00:25:49,882
So it took that long
to get that film made.
350
00:25:50,007 --> 00:25:53,553
So to get rave culture
while it was still happening
351
00:25:53,678 --> 00:25:58,182
was particularly fulfilling
and a great achievement, I think.
352
00:25:59,016 --> 00:26:04,272
There were a lot of people
who were living this 9 to 5 life
353
00:26:04,397 --> 00:26:11,696
and then they discovered acid house,
ecstasy, clubbing,
354
00:26:11,821 --> 00:26:16,909
music that they probably
wouldn't have listened to before.
355
00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:23,708
And it literally changed the way
they lived their lives for quite a few years.
356
00:26:25,167 --> 00:26:29,422
When I'd first seen "Weekender",
I could see the references.
357
00:26:29,547 --> 00:26:32,800
And then of course,
there's that famous line from Jimmy,
358
00:26:32,925 --> 00:26:36,387
"You can take your franking machines
and stuff it right up your arse!"
359
00:26:36,512 --> 00:26:40,391
It's not just this kind
of kitchen sink realism,
360
00:26:40,516 --> 00:26:43,436
it's more crafted than that.
361
00:26:43,561 --> 00:26:49,066
Here's a wonderfully impressionistic,
magical representation of a long weekend.
362
00:26:49,692 --> 00:26:52,028
It's not pretentious either.
363
00:26:52,153 --> 00:26:55,364
It's that balance,
it's that harmony,
364
00:26:55,489 --> 00:26:59,952
and it's style and substance together,
which is a rarity.
365
00:27:00,077 --> 00:27:04,915
And it's hard to find the middle ground
of those two.
366
00:27:05,041 --> 00:27:08,669
It's Ken Loach and Ken Russell
meeting to make a rave film.
367
00:27:08,794 --> 00:27:12,548
There's a lot of frames
I could just freeze and just look at.
368
00:27:12,673 --> 00:27:17,219
It's very beautifully shot and realised.
369
00:27:58,052 --> 00:28:04,100
Originally it was for Liam
to take the lead role as Joe,
370
00:28:04,225 --> 00:28:07,353
which would have been really, really cool
if he'd have been into it.
371
00:28:07,478 --> 00:28:10,940
But he wasn't, I don't know why.
372
00:28:11,065 --> 00:28:13,067
I don't know if it kind of scared him
or something.
373
00:28:13,192 --> 00:28:18,489
I don't know if it was something to do
with his frame of mind at the time, maybe,
374
00:28:18,614 --> 00:28:23,077
but yeah, he didn't wanna do it,
which I was pretty gutted about.
375
00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:25,079
I think WIZ was a bit gutted about
as well.
376
00:28:25,204 --> 00:28:29,458
So then we had to find somebody
to kind of fill that role.
377
00:28:29,583 --> 00:28:34,004
And then it became a case
of getting someone in
378
00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:38,300
who could act basically,
who could be directed.
379
00:28:39,093 --> 00:28:43,389
I knew Des through mutual friends
and all that in North London.
380
00:28:43,514 --> 00:28:49,061
I think at the 11th hour, Sacha said,
"Look, I know Lee Whitlock
381
00:28:49,186 --> 00:28:50,229
"and I'm sure he'll do it.
382
00:28:50,354 --> 00:28:52,523
WIZ had shared the outline of the story
383
00:28:52,648 --> 00:28:55,484
and I knew that Lee would be able
to do that in his sleep.
384
00:28:56,026 --> 00:28:57,570
Yeah, I got a call from WIZ,
385
00:28:57,695 --> 00:29:01,073
and at first I thought he was sort of
winding me up on the phone,
386
00:29:01,198 --> 00:29:02,324
cos he kept going, "My name's WIZ".
387
00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:05,745
I'm like, "Leave it out, shut up,
I don't even know you."
388
00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:08,706
And then he said, "Look,
I've got your number from Sacha,
389
00:29:08,831 --> 00:29:13,002
"we're doing this video
and we haven't really got any money."
390
00:29:13,794 --> 00:29:16,797
Story of my life,
"We haven't got much money."
391
00:29:16,922 --> 00:29:18,716
"Would you do it?"
I was like, "Yeah."
392
00:29:18,841 --> 00:29:20,384
Simple as that, "Yeah, I'll do it.
When do you start?"
393
00:29:20,509 --> 00:29:22,136
He went, "Tomorrow."
394
00:29:56,170 --> 00:30:01,884
He was perfect.
His face was absolutely perfect.
395
00:30:02,009 --> 00:30:04,762
Lee used to come
to all the parties.
396
00:30:04,887 --> 00:30:09,225
We knew Lee really well,
so we spent many a time in a field
397
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:12,311
shaking our heads
and eyes rolling to the sky
398
00:30:12,436 --> 00:30:14,146
with big grins on our face
and hugging each other.
399
00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:19,360
It's not like I had to go and rehearse
for weeks on end or anything to do it.
400
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:23,030
It was pretty much,
"Yeah, let's go, let's do it."
401
00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:24,740
Glad I did.
402
00:30:24,865 --> 00:30:31,288
The shopgirl
becoming the main hero,
403
00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:34,875
I think it's one
of the best things about it.
404
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,837
When she's taken out of context
in the club when she becomes
405
00:30:37,962 --> 00:30:42,383
this kind of goddess of acid house,
it's such an evocative thing.
406
00:30:42,508 --> 00:30:46,011
Somebody is just like ringing up their stuff
and doing their job
407
00:30:46,136 --> 00:30:50,641
and maybe not the in the best or high status
employment that they would want,
408
00:30:50,766 --> 00:30:55,020
but they're just getting through the day
and suddenly it's like they just emerged
409
00:30:55,145 --> 00:31:01,485
from this chrysalis and are gonna swoop
like a butterfly all over the dancefloor.
410
00:31:01,610 --> 00:31:03,571
Everybody can relate to,
everybody's seen that,
411
00:31:03,696 --> 00:31:06,198
everybody's been in that position.
412
00:31:39,565 --> 00:31:45,946
The first scene that we filmed,
as far as I can remember,
413
00:31:46,071 --> 00:31:50,993
with me in it anyway,
was the love scene.
414
00:31:51,118 --> 00:31:55,706
It was going to be somebody that I knew
was gonna be playing the male part,
415
00:31:55,831 --> 00:31:58,542
which would have been probably
a lot easier.
416
00:31:58,667 --> 00:32:03,339
But then WIZ said, "Oh, no,
we've got Lee Whitlock to play it."
417
00:32:03,464 --> 00:32:08,469
He used to be in a TV series
called "Shine on Harvey Moon",
418
00:32:08,594 --> 00:32:13,641
which I used to watch as a kid.
So that made it even worse.
419
00:32:13,766 --> 00:32:15,643
Yeah.
420
00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:18,145
They actually
wanted us to be naked,
421
00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:21,398
but I remember Anna going, "I don't
wanna do this, I'm not gonna do that."
422
00:32:21,523 --> 00:32:23,901
I was like, "Well, if you don't wanna do it,
you don't wanna do it,
423
00:32:24,026 --> 00:32:26,278
"just get flesh-coloured underwear
or whatever."
424
00:32:26,403 --> 00:32:30,366
The first time I met him
I was wearing this flesh-coloured leotard
425
00:32:30,491 --> 00:32:32,576
and I had to kind of smooch
with him.
426
00:32:32,701 --> 00:32:35,621
And so, yes, it was awful.
427
00:32:39,041 --> 00:32:44,630
I completely identified
with the whole 'working class
428
00:32:44,755 --> 00:32:49,760
living for the weekends',
because you're in a shitty job,
429
00:32:49,885 --> 00:32:53,514
you live in council estate,
you maybe live with your parents,
430
00:32:53,639 --> 00:32:55,182
maybe you don't have a lot of money,
431
00:32:55,307 --> 00:32:59,436
but at the weekends,
you could look forward to the weekend.
432
00:32:59,561 --> 00:33:02,773
You could dress up,
go out and have a good time,
433
00:33:02,898 --> 00:33:06,860
as he sings in the lyrics
and then back to reality again,
434
00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:09,279
Monday morning with the comedown,
435
00:33:09,405 --> 00:33:12,533
you have to go back to work
or school or college.
436
00:33:13,993 --> 00:33:18,706
I do love the way he portrayed
both heaven and hell,
437
00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:20,666
without getting on this preach box.
438
00:33:20,791 --> 00:33:24,628
He did it in a way
that wasn't cliched.
439
00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:31,301
One thing that "Weekender"
really shows really, really accurately,
440
00:33:31,427 --> 00:33:34,722
what it was like
when you first walked into a door
441
00:33:34,847 --> 00:33:37,516
with thousands of ravers,
sweating ravers.
442
00:33:37,641 --> 00:33:40,394
It was like going
to a different world.
443
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:48,527
It's so rare to see this sort of vibe
presented on film and it look real.
444
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,781
The thing about a lot of people
in England at that time
445
00:33:52,906 --> 00:33:57,494
we were kind of world class
drug takers.
446
00:33:57,619 --> 00:34:00,914
That's the one thing
we were fantastic at doing.
447
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:07,629
What WIZ showed in "Weekender"
was the reality of what taking too much
448
00:34:07,755 --> 00:34:09,965
and how much fun it is
when you have a little bit
449
00:34:10,090 --> 00:34:11,925
and when, boom,
when you have too much.
450
00:34:12,634 --> 00:34:19,308
When they're on the dance floor
and they're sniffing amyl
451
00:34:19,433 --> 00:34:21,393
and then the record just cuts out.
452
00:34:21,518 --> 00:34:23,854
And that's actually happened to me.
453
00:34:23,979 --> 00:34:27,483
The record's slowing down
in the bathroom.
454
00:34:27,608 --> 00:34:34,490
It was just picture-perfect
and it's just so visceral as well.
455
00:34:34,615 --> 00:34:36,658
There's so much feeling in it.
456
00:34:37,493 --> 00:34:39,203
That was a brave thing to do,
to put that out.
457
00:34:39,328 --> 00:34:40,871
And I remember
doing interviews at the time.
458
00:34:40,996 --> 00:34:46,543
I remember getting absolutely roasted
on BBC Radio One Newsbeat
459
00:34:46,668 --> 00:34:50,380
for it depicting drug-taking
and this sort of thing.
460
00:34:50,506 --> 00:34:53,092
And the woman was absolutely
trying to roast me for it.
461
00:34:53,217 --> 00:34:57,721
I was just like, "Just go out any weekend,
you will see this within the country.
462
00:34:57,846 --> 00:35:03,560
"All we're doing is being honest about it.
We're not glamorising it.
463
00:35:03,685 --> 00:35:06,897
"We're just documenting
what goes on out there and showing it.
464
00:35:07,022 --> 00:35:09,274
"And that's what the video's about."
465
00:35:25,249 --> 00:35:29,294
We were actually using
real poppers, real amyl nitrate,
466
00:35:29,419 --> 00:35:32,256
and we filmed it several times
467
00:35:32,381 --> 00:35:36,468
and then we were all just like, "Really?"
468
00:35:36,593 --> 00:35:41,056
WIZ was definitely capturing
a real moment there, but it got too much.
469
00:35:41,181 --> 00:35:45,644
We're all getting headaches
and we had to tell him to stop.
470
00:35:45,769 --> 00:35:48,021
We had to fill the bottle with water.
471
00:35:50,065 --> 00:35:52,860
The toilet scene is great as well.
I love that.
472
00:35:55,404 --> 00:35:58,323
I had to grab my boyfriend
473
00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:01,535
and throw him into the back
of the toilet cubicle
474
00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:04,163
as if I were gonna make love to him.
475
00:36:04,288 --> 00:36:10,502
What you see inside club toilets
is normally very naughty and nefarious.
476
00:36:11,086 --> 00:36:18,051
It's something that you sort of...
I don't know, in music video or music film,
477
00:36:18,177 --> 00:36:21,430
I think a lot of people dismiss that,
especially now.
478
00:36:21,555 --> 00:36:26,977
I think it would be very
kind of champagne and big and bling,
479
00:36:27,102 --> 00:36:28,812
"We're not gonna show toilets."
480
00:36:28,937 --> 00:36:34,860
So to show the toilets and then also
have it in a kind of elevated way again
481
00:36:34,985 --> 00:36:38,197
and just... the cinematography
is very considered,
482
00:36:38,322 --> 00:36:43,535
is just super powerful
and something I love.
483
00:36:47,873 --> 00:36:53,045
I like the record shop scene,
because I remember.
484
00:36:53,170 --> 00:36:55,797
Roy The Roach, who's the DJ
at the beginning and had the shop Quaff,
485
00:36:55,923 --> 00:36:59,968
and we'd all go down there
and buy the new imports and stuff.
486
00:37:00,093 --> 00:37:06,016
And it was just great to see that scene
with everyone in there getting the records.
487
00:37:06,141 --> 00:37:08,810
And that's... I guess
that's a rare thing now
488
00:37:08,936 --> 00:37:14,942
where it was a pilgrimage
to the record shop to get the latest import.
489
00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:18,445
Now I guess you order the MP3.
490
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:24,034
I don't know, you download...
It's just not the same.
491
00:37:25,535 --> 00:37:30,582
The slogan for my shop
back then was "Covering Club Culture".
492
00:37:30,707 --> 00:37:35,379
And it was about nurturing
that whole culture of clubbing,
493
00:37:35,504 --> 00:37:39,007
which was not just about dancing
and listening to records.
494
00:37:39,132 --> 00:37:42,594
It was about the way you thought,
the way you dressed,
495
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,722
the way you associated
with the people around you.
496
00:37:45,847 --> 00:37:47,432
It was a way of life.
497
00:37:47,557 --> 00:37:50,227
And that's what I love
about "Weekender".
498
00:37:50,352 --> 00:37:52,604
And I think that's why
it's still poignant today,
499
00:37:52,729 --> 00:37:55,482
because it goes beyond the music.
500
00:37:55,607 --> 00:37:58,151
As much as it's about
that wonderful record,
501
00:37:58,277 --> 00:38:01,738
it was about the culture,
it had a soundtrack.
502
00:38:01,863 --> 00:38:05,575
It was about what changed our lives.
503
00:38:07,035 --> 00:38:10,664
You had your little set
of ceremonies.
504
00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:13,750
You'd go to the record store,
you go hang out with your mates,
505
00:38:13,875 --> 00:38:17,504
smoke a joint, listen to records,
get ready and then go out
506
00:38:17,629 --> 00:38:24,720
and just have nights that were actually
just incredibly inspiring.
507
00:38:24,845 --> 00:38:27,806
And I think that comes across
in "Weekender".
508
00:38:29,182 --> 00:38:32,477
I remember the meeting
with WIZ and he had this incredible chart,
509
00:38:32,602 --> 00:38:35,981
it was like a sort of spreadsheet
510
00:38:36,106 --> 00:38:41,987
and it was sort of the excitement levels
and the bits of filming against the time.
511
00:38:42,112 --> 00:38:46,575
It was a sort of big, lumpy, wavy thing
that he did.
512
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:51,496
He had the whole thing mapped out
and this was right at the beginning of filming.
513
00:38:51,621 --> 00:38:55,751
WIZ is such a voyeur.
He sees...
514
00:38:55,876 --> 00:39:00,088
He's scanning every little detail
of a situation
515
00:39:00,213 --> 00:39:01,882
and that's what you get
in the film
516
00:39:02,007 --> 00:39:09,097
because there's all these details
that most people have missed.
517
00:39:10,849 --> 00:39:17,439
There's this scene at home
where he's sort of questioning his life.
518
00:39:17,564 --> 00:39:19,441
He's looking at his mum
and he's looking at sister
519
00:39:19,566 --> 00:39:23,320
and the kind of weird little knickknack things
they have in the house.
520
00:39:23,445 --> 00:39:30,744
And you can see he's almost rebelling
against his humdrum lifestyle.
521
00:39:30,869 --> 00:39:32,245
And then you see him in the bath
522
00:39:32,371 --> 00:39:36,166
almost looking like a foetus
or something, curled up.
523
00:39:37,542 --> 00:39:41,421
There's actually something
in that bath that WIZ told me,
524
00:39:41,546 --> 00:39:48,428
there is a toy, a spongy toy
of "Dennis the Menace".
525
00:39:48,553 --> 00:39:53,433
And that was WIZ's little kind of
Dennis the Menace ecstasy reference.
526
00:39:54,935 --> 00:40:00,565
At the very end,
you see him looking at the little penguins
527
00:40:00,690 --> 00:40:04,027
going over to...
I don't know where they're going,
528
00:40:04,152 --> 00:40:06,405
they're going up a little slide thing
and slide down.
529
00:40:06,530 --> 00:40:14,204
And it's like the drudgery of going through life
and sort of tipping over the edge.
530
00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:19,960
Lee's character is so multifaceted.
531
00:40:20,502 --> 00:40:23,964
He's a three-dimensional kind of man.
532
00:40:24,089 --> 00:40:30,429
We see masculinity, we see vulnerability,
we see doubt, we see a love interest.
533
00:40:30,554 --> 00:40:35,142
And they're all things
that everyone experiences.
534
00:40:36,435 --> 00:40:38,520
I don't think Lee
would mind me saying,
535
00:40:38,645 --> 00:40:42,232
sometimes he was burning the candle
at both ends, like we all were.
536
00:40:42,357 --> 00:40:46,945
We'd go to parties the night before
and then just go straight to work.
537
00:40:48,947 --> 00:40:54,327
The shot that always really gets me
is the shot of the guy on the crane,
538
00:40:54,453 --> 00:40:56,663
when he's lying there.
539
00:40:56,788 --> 00:41:02,169
Just the intensity in his face
and that's it, you're hooked.
540
00:41:03,628 --> 00:41:06,840
We were up 24 storeys
541
00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:12,846
in an outside window cleaner's
wobbly metal carriage
542
00:41:12,971 --> 00:41:15,265
that went up and down
on a pulley.
543
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:18,602
I was so scared
that in the video you can actually see
544
00:41:18,727 --> 00:41:23,315
where I'm lying down on my back,
there's a bucket of water,
545
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:29,237
and it's next to my leg, and you can see
the ripples in the bucket from my leg shaking.
546
00:41:29,362 --> 00:41:34,784
And if you look carefully
where I'm holding the sides of the cradle
547
00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:38,455
the white of my knuckles from holding
onto the side of this crane
548
00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:41,374
because I'm so sure
that it was gonna fall or drop.
549
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:46,254
And people were saying up the top,
"Can you take your hands off the side?",
550
00:41:46,379 --> 00:41:51,301
I'm like, "F off, no way, no, shut up, no.
Let's just do this."
551
00:41:54,054 --> 00:41:56,932
Because it's quite a scary shot,
it's quite a scary place to be,
552
00:41:58,433 --> 00:42:02,187
it actually captures the kind of the horror
of being back at work.
553
00:42:02,312 --> 00:42:04,105
The way the guy
just doesn't really do anything,
554
00:42:04,231 --> 00:42:07,234
he just sits and lies there,
and thinks.
555
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:10,278
I mean, if I was in that position
and I was on a comedown
556
00:42:10,403 --> 00:42:13,073
and I was supposed to be washing windows
and I was lying there
557
00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:14,658
I'd be too scared to stand up.
558
00:42:16,618 --> 00:42:19,287
There's so much psychology
that you're like,
559
00:42:19,412 --> 00:42:22,290
"OK, what's he going through?
What's he feeling?"
560
00:42:27,337 --> 00:42:29,839
Back then, I was still out
partying a lot anyway.
561
00:42:29,965 --> 00:42:31,967
I think a lot of us were
while we were filming.
562
00:42:32,968 --> 00:42:37,889
When we were shooting
the supermarket scene in "Weekender",
563
00:42:38,014 --> 00:42:41,935
we were in Queensway
and we had a specific budget,
564
00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:44,187
we've got a certain amount of time.
565
00:42:44,312 --> 00:42:47,148
And we've taken over
the whole of this supermarket
566
00:42:47,274 --> 00:42:52,737
and the electrician
makes this almighty F up
567
00:42:52,862 --> 00:42:56,741
and brings two cables together
and connects something
568
00:42:56,866 --> 00:43:00,579
that should never, ever be done,
it's like a cardinal rule.
569
00:43:00,704 --> 00:43:05,584
And he manages to blow
the whole electricity system.
570
00:43:06,167 --> 00:43:08,920
The whole of Queensway
was thrown into darkness
571
00:43:09,045 --> 00:43:15,135
and all of the food started to defrost
because they couldn't solve the problem.
572
00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:18,888
It was an absolute,
unmitigated disaster.
573
00:43:19,014 --> 00:43:22,559
And now with the passage of time,
unfortunately,
574
00:43:22,684 --> 00:43:24,144
I can't remember
how it was resolved
575
00:43:24,269 --> 00:43:27,355
because I think we had to do a reshoot
the next day.
576
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,775
The club scenes,
it wasn't staged.
577
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:35,905
The adult party shots
were from a proper free party
578
00:43:36,031 --> 00:43:39,367
that we threw for that purpose.
579
00:43:42,621 --> 00:43:44,706
I'm a professional makeup artist
580
00:43:44,831 --> 00:43:47,334
and on this one occasion
WIZ said to me,
581
00:43:47,459 --> 00:43:51,630
"Listen, we want everybody to be involved
and we want people to look genuinely
582
00:43:51,755 --> 00:43:56,092
"like they're at a rave,
so you can basically party."
583
00:43:56,217 --> 00:43:59,137
I'm like, "So what, drop a pill?"
And he's like, "Yeah."
584
00:44:01,514 --> 00:44:05,477
The dancing with the children
and that I thought was absolutely wicked.
585
00:44:05,602 --> 00:44:11,232
To be there and watching Lee,
he's quite a good dancer, actually.
586
00:44:11,358 --> 00:44:13,777
I remember turning up
on the day, "So what are we doing?"
587
00:44:13,902 --> 00:44:15,111
They said, "Just stand there
588
00:44:15,236 --> 00:44:16,446
"and we'll put all the kids around you
and dance."
589
00:44:16,571 --> 00:44:20,033
I was like, "It's sort of a bit weird."
590
00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:23,370
So I took I think half an E
and waited to come up
591
00:44:23,495 --> 00:44:26,289
and then danced with the kids
cos it was a bit weird dancing
592
00:44:26,414 --> 00:44:28,958
with all these little kids around me
going, "All right, yeah."
593
00:44:32,671 --> 00:44:35,090
We were filming
in Des's mum's house
594
00:44:35,215 --> 00:44:38,885
and in their whole little estate
down in North London.
595
00:44:39,010 --> 00:44:41,096
One of the great things
about Flowered Up
596
00:44:41,221 --> 00:44:43,348
was that they came
from a community.
597
00:44:43,473 --> 00:44:45,016
Everybody knew everybody
598
00:44:45,141 --> 00:44:47,560
and they were really treasured
by those people on that estate.
599
00:44:47,686 --> 00:44:51,147
I think everyone had a sort
of cameo role of just a normal job.
600
00:44:51,272 --> 00:44:55,443
My dad got to be in the video
and that was fun for me,
601
00:44:55,568 --> 00:44:57,821
because my dad was great.
602
00:44:57,946 --> 00:45:00,532
You'd be privy
to all these amazing stories
603
00:45:00,657 --> 00:45:02,450
and these North London boys
604
00:45:02,575 --> 00:45:06,996
and getting to spend quality time
with people whilst working,
605
00:45:07,122 --> 00:45:10,417
but on a slightly different level
than you would do with normal artists
606
00:45:10,542 --> 00:45:14,879
because they're more accessible
and you've got your culture in common.
607
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,300
You could see with WIZ
the talent,
608
00:45:19,426 --> 00:45:24,139
like the way his sort of head was working,
what he could see and all that.
609
00:45:24,264 --> 00:45:29,144
Yeah, and he'd always show me like,
"This is how it's gonna look."
610
00:45:29,644 --> 00:45:33,648
First time we're doing
a proper, proper video shoot,
611
00:45:33,773 --> 00:45:35,358
and he made you feel comfortable.
612
00:45:35,483 --> 00:45:38,027
He said, "Right, Baz,
you're gonna be the bookie.
613
00:45:38,153 --> 00:45:43,658
"I want you to sit behind a counter
and just sort of half daydream."
614
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:49,205
But it was fun, just sitting down
and meeting different sorts of people,
615
00:45:49,330 --> 00:45:52,292
seeing the ins and outs
of filmmaking.
616
00:45:52,417 --> 00:45:56,212
WIZ would always refer to us,
give us specific jobs,
617
00:45:56,337 --> 00:45:59,966
ask us to do research,
come back and have meetings,
618
00:46:00,091 --> 00:46:04,471
and we'd co-create
these incredible shots.
619
00:46:04,596 --> 00:46:07,515
And of course, it was all
coming through WIZ and his lens.
620
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,978
But he would allow,
he was generous as a director.
621
00:46:13,855 --> 00:46:18,193
WIZ is his own kind of filmmaker,
a chameleon I guess,
622
00:46:18,318 --> 00:46:20,653
always trying to do something
really interesting.
623
00:46:20,779 --> 00:46:24,324
He doesn't want to tell you
how the party is done.
624
00:46:24,449 --> 00:46:27,786
He wants to push the envelope,
he wants to be provocative.
625
00:46:27,911 --> 00:46:31,039
He's a bit of a freedom fighter as well.
626
00:46:32,415 --> 00:46:37,962
I used to be so surprised,
after I started working with WIZ,
627
00:46:38,087 --> 00:46:43,384
how many people would know him
that didn't know directors,
628
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:44,928
because of "Weekender".
629
00:46:48,389 --> 00:46:58,107
This videocassette in the late '90s
circulated in Russia, well, Moscow.
630
00:46:59,108 --> 00:47:02,612
Who brought it there,
I don't know,
631
00:47:02,737 --> 00:47:11,496
but I think that opened the mind
for many, many, many young people like me.
632
00:47:13,206 --> 00:47:15,333
Within seconds
you're just immersed in this world
633
00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:19,921
and that's really intoxicating.
634
00:47:21,256 --> 00:47:27,762
If you elevate the every day,
it suddenly makes filmmaking democratic.
635
00:47:27,887 --> 00:47:29,472
There is an element of magic.
636
00:47:30,056 --> 00:47:32,892
It's a very special thing because
then you see someone that's like you,
637
00:47:33,017 --> 00:47:35,895
you're like, "Wow", it sort
of transports you there even more.
638
00:47:36,646 --> 00:47:40,400
And I think it changed the way
we started portraying
639
00:47:40,525 --> 00:47:46,698
perhaps drugs and youth culture,
in movies, in the media, etc.
640
00:47:46,823 --> 00:47:48,283
It opened the conversation.
641
00:47:49,284 --> 00:47:51,160
I actually find "Weekender"
hard to watch
642
00:47:51,286 --> 00:47:52,829
if I'm to be brutally honest.
643
00:47:52,954 --> 00:47:57,625
I find it very hard to watch
and kind of painful in a very good way.
644
00:48:16,561 --> 00:48:23,067
If I was to show this film
to any of my nieces,
645
00:48:24,110 --> 00:48:27,655
I would probably say
this was a representation
646
00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:31,618
of what we were doing
with our lives.
647
00:48:31,743 --> 00:48:38,166
But unfortunately partaking
with drugs has its highs,
648
00:48:38,291 --> 00:48:41,169
but it also has a massive downside.
649
00:48:41,294 --> 00:48:47,508
And, really sadly,
both Liam and Joe from Flowered Up
650
00:48:47,634 --> 00:48:53,681
obviously took the brunt
of the bad side of drugs.
651
00:48:53,806 --> 00:49:00,271
And it really can have
a life devastating effect.
652
00:49:00,396 --> 00:49:07,195
Drugs lead us down
all sorts of different paths.
653
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,698
I guess what Liam
was trying to say in his lyrics
654
00:49:10,823 --> 00:49:16,788
and WIZ was trying to say
in the film was that
655
00:49:16,913 --> 00:49:20,625
it's great to go out
and do these things,
656
00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:25,380
but actually where's it gonna go,
it's not gonna last.
657
00:49:25,505 --> 00:49:28,925
Is it really the answer?
658
00:49:29,676 --> 00:49:33,388
I was surprised by Joe
because he wasn't a junkie
659
00:49:33,513 --> 00:49:35,598
when we did "Weekender".
660
00:49:35,723 --> 00:49:43,940
Liam was getting there
and I was made aware of how he was
661
00:49:44,065 --> 00:49:47,360
and his whereabouts and things like that,
and what a mess
662
00:49:47,485 --> 00:49:50,071
or he's getting better
or he's starting a group
663
00:49:50,196 --> 00:49:52,782
or he's reformed Flowered Up
or he's...
664
00:49:52,907 --> 00:49:55,284
And if ever I saw him,
it was kind of lovely.
665
00:49:55,410 --> 00:50:01,916
But he'd been killed by heroin,
he'd been killed early on.
666
00:50:02,041 --> 00:50:06,713
It took a while for him to die
and it's sad.
667
00:50:06,838 --> 00:50:09,090
Liam was a beautiful soul.
668
00:50:09,215 --> 00:50:11,259
Think he had a hard life.
669
00:50:11,384 --> 00:50:15,013
And I wish he was alive
because he was a beautiful guy.
670
00:50:15,138 --> 00:50:17,056
He'd do anything for you.
671
00:50:17,181 --> 00:50:21,853
And he was only geezer I know,
well, he's the only mate I know
672
00:50:21,978 --> 00:50:24,105
that would let him stick a bottle
up my back door.
673
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:25,940
We were both
working class kids
674
00:50:26,065 --> 00:50:29,777
who probably really didn't have much
of a future going for us really,
675
00:50:29,902 --> 00:50:33,614
and I was very lucky
otherwise I could have easily ended up
676
00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:37,618
where Liam ended up,
which is not on this planet.
677
00:50:40,121 --> 00:50:45,960
What happened to the brothers
from Flowered Up is very tragic.
678
00:50:46,085 --> 00:50:52,341
And again in their music
there's an untapped darkness,
679
00:50:52,467 --> 00:50:55,261
hints of it in the film itself,
680
00:50:55,386 --> 00:50:58,639
of the way it could go either way
with drugs,
681
00:50:58,765 --> 00:51:00,558
it could be heaven, it could be hell.
682
00:51:00,683 --> 00:51:05,438
That adds another
sadly tragic element to it,
683
00:51:05,563 --> 00:51:11,611
another element of authenticity,
of realism to the whole thing.
684
00:51:21,621 --> 00:51:23,081
'How does it go?'
685
00:51:23,206 --> 00:51:24,916
'Four and twenty blackbirds...'
686
00:51:34,050 --> 00:51:38,638
'In case I'll sell this
to "The Sun".'
687
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:45,436
WIZ probably didn't have
any other thought in his mind
688
00:51:45,561 --> 00:51:48,981
apart from just making something
that was truly honest.
689
00:51:49,107 --> 00:51:52,610
And that's why
it has remained timeless.
690
00:51:52,735 --> 00:51:58,491
That's why it has remained
the seminal film
691
00:51:58,616 --> 00:52:00,576
about the acid house movement.
692
00:52:00,701 --> 00:52:03,996
You just have to look
at certain things through time
693
00:52:04,122 --> 00:52:08,334
and just sort of see
how well they've stood the test of time,
694
00:52:08,459 --> 00:52:13,840
not just in their own scene,
but in society over all.
695
00:52:13,965 --> 00:52:17,552
It still continues
to have an influence on me.
696
00:52:17,677 --> 00:52:20,012
I made a video for The Streets
called "Blinded By The Lights",
697
00:52:20,847 --> 00:52:25,560
and yeah, "Weekender"
was a huge influence on that.
698
00:52:25,685 --> 00:52:29,939
And I also did a few episodes of a series,
a programme called "Skins",
699
00:52:30,064 --> 00:52:35,194
and again used "Weekender" as a reference
and showed that to a lot of the actors.
700
00:52:35,319 --> 00:52:40,199
It just still looks real
and now.
701
00:52:40,324 --> 00:52:43,953
It was not just a genuine statement
about the culture,
702
00:52:44,078 --> 00:52:47,081
but was also a genuine statement
from the culture,
703
00:52:47,206 --> 00:52:52,086
which is very, very rare
in any kind of art.
704
00:52:52,211 --> 00:52:57,925
It works on every level,
the lyrical narrative and everything,
705
00:52:58,050 --> 00:53:02,305
but the way
that WIZ has made it,
706
00:53:02,430 --> 00:53:08,060
it just works as a film
with an incredible song.
707
00:53:08,186 --> 00:53:11,647
Most people are gonna go,
"Well, drugs suck."
708
00:53:11,772 --> 00:53:15,693
Unless you go around saying,
"Drugs are absolutely fuckin' fantastic
709
00:53:15,818 --> 00:53:19,655
"and they're great," then you can have it
how you want it. "Suck drugs."
710
00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:22,366
You can shove 'em up your arse, drugs,
you can do anything you want with them.
711
00:53:22,491 --> 00:53:27,038
Just make sure
what you're doing makes you happy.
712
00:53:27,163 --> 00:53:30,082
I think I might have that
on my epitaph.
61173
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